Higurashi Kai Episode 22 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[Kang Seung Jae]

I can't wait for the 鐵甲彈 to activate!


May the game begin!

[kingsky123]

wo0t i cant wait for this episode!!

[Micchi]

Just watched it on niconico....

Akasaka is sooooooooooooooooo cool @___________@

The banter between Mion and Shion was cute, so was Satoko's pouting at the end. Lots of action and plot is moving swiftly to the conclusion! I loved the extra time spent on Shion. Not only does Takano like sleeping in the nude, but also likes bondage. Then again, I guess you need to go that far if it's "Car-crush" Tomitake.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/MiharuAmakase/Mion_Shion.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/MiharuAmakase/Tomitake.jpg

And....

Satoshi's alive!!!

[Klashikari]

Episode 22: Bullet summary and screencaps (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kai-episode-22-matsuribatashi-hen-9-koubou/)

This episode was very moving, seriously. The pace and tension were very well crafted, and the action was quite big.
Akasaka demonstrated what his fists can do, and seriously, those who read peice 51 and/or played Daybreak can expect how BATSHIT and fearsome he can be.
If only the tracks were the one from the game maa...

Seriously, a fantastic episode.

[Shiroth]

Satoshi's alive!!!
FINALLY! (Now i've watched it) The way they went around reveling Satoshi's being alive was nicely done, i expected it would have something to do with Shion. It really was a touching scene.

The OHMYGOD award for this episode goes to Akasaka.

[Rias]

Not bad, but once again the art level has gone down. Most obvious with Kasai and Akasaka's fight scene. The action was alright when Akasaka was fighting the generic Yamainu, but the "small head wide shoulder" is back. Timing is alright, but of course, some famous quotes and scenes were cut.


First I wasn't too happy when Locomotive Tomitake only got so little screen time...since he is protrayed as a strong instructor from the SDF that also kicked some ass in Minagoroshi/Matsuribayashi-hen.

But of course, the biggest rant is...給料いくらだ being cut. Akasaka showing up and kicking ass is probably one of the highest point of Matsuribayashi-hen. Let's start from the beginning when Akasaka shows up. He says one of his famous line, "I've finally made it...Rika-chan, I've came to save you." I would have perfered if there was a bigger pause between the lines, just like in the game. I guess that line isn't as significant as the game since the anime cut out the last piece of Kakera-musubi, but Akasaka showing up is much more significant then the anime has been showing. Akasaka finally showed up to save Rika, not because she had to wait for so long in Matsuribayashi-hen. It was becuase she has waited for all these worlds, who knows how many years worth, for Akasaka to save her. On a side note, cutting out "I'm Okonogi from Yaminu !!!!!!" during the punch was a shame :heh:

2nd rant about the scene is obviously the BGM. Anyone played the original game would perfer that over the anime one.

Finally, Akasaka vs Okonogi is way too short, since they cut out the 給料いくらだ part. Okonogi just ran away after Akasaka punched the van...



After this episode, I am starting to think that Air Throw will be cut out as well...:heh:

Edit 2: Further work has been done on this sequence, and added Shion + Irie scene.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690883

Anime sequence + original music + original screen capture
Just having the music makes the scene feel completely different...

[Phoenix14]

I don't know about you guys, but with the akasaka punch part, I was laughing my head off.

I don't know if I found it too unbelievable, or if it just caught me off guard...

[Rasuberi]

Touching, amazing... epic... This is all the stuff I hoped would come eventually and now it's here. Got kind of teary at certain parts just with all the hope and kicking ass. It just makes so much sense why Higurashi has had me so pulled in... this is what I've been waiting for.

Makes me really excited to finally play the sound novels since the anime just about done... but of course I didn't bring the disks with me to college. orz

[aroduc]

I don't know about you guys, but with the akasaka punch part, I was laughing my head off.

I don't know if I found it too unbelievable, or if it just caught me off guard...

What... are you saying that it's unbelievable when

A bunch of soldiers that just took down two heavily armed people through a chokepoint in a matter of minutes can't also take down a single unarmed guy?

It is a mystery.

http://blog.seiha.org/images/higukai22/higukai22_24.jpg

[Shiosai]

In this episode, something finally goes right for Shion! Hooray!

I don't think I've laughed harder at the second season than right there. Especially the part where Okonagi punched Tomitake and Tomitake just smiled. It was like something out of DBZ.

[Starks]

I hope to god this episode is fansubbed promptly.

[harukamae]

WOW! That's a 10 right there!

First of all - SATOSHI'S ALIVE! *dances*

Now that that's out of the way, I didn't think anything other than watching KOOL go Incredible Hulk could have made that fight any better - well, OK, maybe better animation, longer fight, and using more powerful BGM like the remix of You that Rias posted woulda helped, but still, watching Akasaka beat ass followed by gun-toting Shion and Kasai made my freaking day!

In fact, I need to watch the damn fight scene again! :-D

On a side note, looks like Rena's out of the picture for pairing with K1 as far as anime's concerned. Oh well, she could always take out Shion with the billhook and claim Satoshi for herself...Of course Tomi may soon be single...

[Proto]

Edit: found this later...people should upload these things fast.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690220
Anime sequence + original music
Just having the music makes the scene feel completely different...

After reading your post, I thought it was just another game player ranting about how his game wasn't 100% ported to another media word for word... which normally just comes across as some whining. However, after watching the nicovideo ensemble I can't believe there is much of a quality difference between the OST's. What surprises me more is how Kawai Kenji couldn't get the feeling right and made such a crude equivalent...

Anyway, from the point of view of someone who has only played Onikakushi-hen (aka anime-only watched for all that matters :p) the episode was quite good, and set ups the terrain for the final episodes. This second to last climax (only guessing) was pretty good, and I'm looking forward for whatever the story has in store for us.

[MaxwellDemon]

WOW! That's a 10 right there!

First of all - SATOSHI'S ALIVE! *dances*

Now that that's out of the way, I didn't think anything other than watching KOOL go Incredible Hulk could have made that fight any better - well, OK, maybe better animation, longer fight, and using more powerful BGM like the remix of You that Rias posted woulda helped, but still, watching Akasaka beat ass followed by gun-toting Shion and Kasai made my freaking day!

In fact, I need to watch the damn fight scene again! :-D

On a side note, looks like Rena's out of the picture for pairing with K1 as far as anime's concerned. Oh well, she could always take out Shion with the billhook and claim Satoshi for herself...Of course Tomi may soon be single...

How's she out of pairing?

What Shion said was purely more about her than Keiichi. :p

It just basically means she would come back alive because Mion is still there. :) Sisterly love for the win! :heh:

[Rias]

Last ranting about Akasaka from me.

I do realize that the whole Akasaka scene was longer than it needs in some parts for the game, but how long does it take for the anime to do these lines?

(excuse my crappy translations)

"........I've made it in time........"

<cue in Okonogi wondering who the guy in the uniform was + suprised Rika>

"......I have regreted for countless worlds.
...I've always only realized after it's too late..."

"I, for the longest time, wanted to say this "

"Rika-chan

I've


Came to save you!!

[Sterling01]

Hahahaha now the question is...

Where in the world is Satoshi?

Also I like bondage Takano

@Rias: The anime didn't have Piece 51 so some of what Akasaka said in the game wouldn't make sense

[Rias]

@Rias: The anime didn't have Piece 51 so some of what Akasaka said in the game wouldn't make sense


I know, but people should still be able to understand it from Himatsubushi/Yakusamashi-hen...just that the effect wouldn't be as big

[Sterling01]

They also made Tommy look weak again

Also, which one was Yakusamashi-hen... I can't remember

[MarthX]

They also made Tommy look weak again

Also, which one was Yakusamashi-hen... I can't remember

Anime original arc.

[Sterling01]

No wonder I couldn't remember

[Kang Seung Jae]

Last ranting about Akasaka from me.

I do realize that the whole Akasaka scene was longer than it needs in some parts for the game, but how long does it take for the anime to do these lines?

(excuse my crappy translations)

"........I've made it in time........"

<cue in Okonogi wondering who the guy in the uniform was + suprised Rika>

"......I have regreted for countless worlds.
...I've always only realized after it's too late..."

"I, for the longest time, wanted to say this "

"Rika-chan

I've


Came to save you!!



So that's why there were all those Rika - Akasaka doujinshis.... (but isn't Akasaka married :D)

[Shiroth]

Hahahaha now the question is...

Where in the world is Satoshi?
I'm actually afraid to find out, though i've been waiting so long to hear what we heard in this episode.

[Sterling01]

So that's why there were all those Rika - Akasaka doujinshis.... (but isn't Akasaka married :D)
Let's just say Akasaka has a Rika fetish

[Rias]

Akasaka isn't nicknamed Lolisaka for nothing :heh:

[Rasuberi]

Well he's earned the name Lolisaka for a reason, hasn't he? wwww

Just that short clip with you-destructive makes the anime scene so much more poweful, along with knowing more of Akasaka's lines.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Let's just say Akasaka has a Rika fetish

Akasaka isn't nicknamed Lolisaka for nothing :heh:

Well he's earned the name Lolisaka for a reason, hasn't he? wwww

Just that short clip with you-destructive makes the anime scene so much more poweful, along with knowing more of Akasaka's lines.

Yes, but I wonder what his wife would think if she knew her husband has such a nickname.

[Rias]

Yes, but I wonder what his wife would think if she knew her husband has such a nickname.

You'll find out at the end of Matsuribayashi-hen, if they anime that part :D


Akasaka sequence has been reworked, and includes original caption pictures. Also the Shion + Irie scene has been modified with the game music also.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690883

seeing that makes me realize...BGM sure is important :heh:

[Christen]

I was completely blown away by the scenes. Though I admit it would have been way better if the original BGM's were used.

Gave this episode a 10. The link Rias gave helped too :D Thanks for that.

[kj1980]

seeing that makes me realize...BGM sure is important :heh:

Pfft. It has been discussed over and over again, the TV series of Higurashi would've been better if they used the original tracks in the game.

Here's one showing a nice summary of Matsuribayashi using the original tracks:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1167905

And others:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1300631
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1207647



I say this again, the original music is GODLY.

[SSJiffy]

Ass-kicking.Akasaka.is.Epic. :D

[Deathkillz]

zomg...
if ive ever seen anything so ASS KICKING! :D
akasaka is just win...see how he didnt even flinch at that guy's punch...

"you want me to show you how a real man punch!?"

haha...i think he just soiled himself ^^

awesome ep...shion and mion's litte argument was too moe...*melts*

"shion no baka!" "onee no baka!"

twins indeed ^^

its kinda weird that noone from takano's side used guns...wtf? :heh: they were just asking to get owned by some kung fu master :P

[MarthX]

Preview for 23 is up.

http://www.animate.tv/special/higurasi_yokoku.php

What is the episode title?

[SirusRiddler]

Oh man...Akasaka is way cool. It makes me want to go play Hidebu now! And I agree, "you-destructive" made that scene SO much better. Futaenokiwami AHHH indeed! xD (I wonder if anyone will get that...)

Is it just me or did anyone else find the scene where Rika slips down the ladder rather funny? It was amusing to see Rika just ranting to herself about her body and how she wished she had bigger boobs. xD In the midst of such a serious situation, too!

Dude, Tomitake needs to be shown more respect in the anime. The Tomitake Locomotive isn't anything to laugh at...but NOOOO.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Preview for 23 is up.

http://www.animate.tv/special/higurasi_yokoku.php

What is the episode title?

血戰 ("Bloody War/Desperate Fight").


My my, it seems it's all out war now.... Go Akasaka/Kasai!


Also: Negi Rika banzai!

[kingsky123]

I don't know about you guys, but with the akasaka punch part, I was laughing my head off.

I don't know if I found it too unbelievable, or if it just caught me off guard...

he's some sort of karate master of some sort =P. Iron-fist!!

btw : i think it means more like -bloody battle- (title of the episode)

[Kang Seung Jae]

he's some sort of karate master of some sort =P. Iron-fist!!

btw : i think it means more like -bloody battle- (title of the episode)

It can be interperted in several ways.

戰 has several meanings in English.

[SamKajam]

for those http://www.nicovideo.jp videos... why are there always words scrolling past the screen?

[Micchi]

for those http://www.nicovideo.jp videos... why are there always words scrolling past the screen?

Those are user comments. It's a feature of Niconico Douga. You can turn them off if you wish, but if you understand Japanese, they're pretty hilarious.

[SamKajam]

Those are user comments. It's a feature of Niconico Douga. You can turn them off if you wish, but if you understand Japanese, they're pretty hilarious.

Yeah i figured it out right after i posted that... i found out cause there was a box under the screen, so i typed in 'wtf' and poof it appeared on the screen lol. Too bad i don't know japanese to read the comments

[Sterling01]

Even though I know some Japanese i turn them off because I find them annoying

Also, When Takano puts on that uniform she seems even more sadistic

[Trogdor Jube]

Akasaka's power level is OVER NINE THOUSAND!

Epic episode, one of the best of season 2.

[SnEptUne]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690883

Anime sequence + original music + original screen capture
Just having the music makes the scene feel completely different...

I actually prefer the anime music. The game music is too noticable to be suitable for a background music in anime. It also didn't have a "Higurashi" feel to it when such light hearted melody was played.

[Christen]

I actually prefer the anime music. The game music is too noticable to be suitable for a background music in anime. It also didn't have a "Higurashi" feel to it when such light hearted melody was played.

Well, the game music must indeed be noticeable because it was a sound novel. But then if you listen to the drama CD tracks, they just blended in perfectly.

And this would probably be the reason why I can't wait for the remaining drama cd's to be released...

[Rasuberi]

Oh man...Akasaka is way cool. It makes me want to go play Hidebu now! And I agree, "you-destructive" made that scene SO much better. Futaenokiwami AHHH indeed! xD (I wonder if anyone will get that...)


I assume you're talking about the noise Okonogi makes some point while Akasaka is beating him up?

[SirusRiddler]

I assume you're talking about the noise Okonogi makes some point while Akasaka is beating him up?

No, no, not at all. "Futaenokiwami AHHH!" is a huge NicoNico fad at the moment. It's basically the soramimi of what Sannosuke says in the English version of Rurouni Kenshin. The guy took the same scene with different dubs (Japanese, English, Portuguese, French) and people basically commented what they heard.

And thus, "Futaenokiwami AHHH!!" was created. Now everytime there's a scene involving a dramatic running punch (or maybe something completely different), no matter what video it is, expect to see "FUTAENOKIWAMI AHHH!" speed across the screen in NicoNico.

[MarthX]

*sees a 1 on the poll*

Looks like we have a troll in our midst.

[BakaOnna]

*sees a 1 on the poll*

Looks like we have a troll in our midst.

And notice how s/he has no posts. :eyebrow:

Is this a dialogue heavy episode? I just may go watch the raw if it isn't. Can't wait for subs. ><

[Rasuberi]

No, no, not at all. "Futaenokiwami AHHH!" is a huge NicoNico fad at the moment. It's basically the soramimi of what Sannosuke says in the English version of Rurouni Kenshin. The guy took the same scene with different dubs (Japanese, English, Portuguese, French) and people basically commented what they heard.

And thus, "Futaenokiwami AHHH!!" was created. Now everytime there's a scene involving a dramatic running punch (or maybe something completely different), no matter what video it is, expect to see "FUTAENOKIWAMI AHHH!" speed across the screen in NicoNico.

Well I know all that stuff, I find it pretty funny myself, but I thought you might have mentioned it because they say it when Okonogi tries punching Akasaka very consistantly.

[Eryops]

Hauu~'s subs for episode 22 have now been released (http://rapidshare.com/files/74987203/Higurashi.no.Naku.Koro.ni.Kai.22.ass.html).

[Kristen]

Satoshi-kun's alive? :D

Great episode. 9/10. More after I take my final. :'(

OK, here's more:
Akasaka is awesome. There's nothing more to it.
Shion is more vital to this whole thing than I thought. It's strange to see her like that when I still have nightmares about Meakashi-hen
What happened to Ooishi? He just, like, disappeared all of a sudden
I am loving the music. ^_^

[Deathkillz]

muahaha!

Okonogi is weaksauce :rolleyes:

never thought satoshi would be alive really...perhaps a happy end for everyone after all ^^

surprised takano hasnt dissected the little guinea pig already :uhoh:

[FlareKnight]

Go Akasaka! Damn that was one crazy episode. Really thought Rika would be taken away and we'd have to do a big rescue mission to get her out of Takano's clutches. But then the saviour of the day arrived and totally kicked ass :).

Quite the surprise to hear that Satoshi is still hanging around. After all it seemed with everything coming together that he probably was dead. Will be interesting to see what kind of state he is in. After all if he was just fine they would have let him go before now. Good to know he is alive and hope things work out for him and Shion.

But of course we still have a tough fight ahead. Tomitake is captured again and you have to worry about his survival. Managed to repel the enemy this time. But Takano knows that Rika is alive now and should be an interesting battle ahead.

[Eryops]

muahaha!

Okonogi is weaksauce :rolleyes:
He's the only person not to go down with one hit from Akasaka, so he must be pretty strong. :)

never thought satoshi would be alive really...perhaps a happy end for everyone after all ^^

surprised takano hasnt dissected the little guinea pig already :uhoh:
I guess that Irie cared enough about him to veto Takano's plans for dissecting him. Since he is technically the head of the organization he was able to make her go along with his desires.

[Mizuno]

Whoa, Akasaka just became my hero. I didn't know he was built even tougher than Tomitake. :twitch:

For some reason, he gave me the impression of Ryu from Street Fighter. :heh:

That was total pwnage. <3

A little part of me wanted Satoshi dead so that Keiichi could be together with the twins. lol.

[Lanner Falcon]

What can I say… I thought 13 would be the best episode this season, but 23 takes the crown. Even without Rika's moes comments. And the preview just leaves me waiting in agony.

I really don't know what I'll do when this series ends…

[Sterling01]

A little part of me wanted Satoshi dead so that Keiichi could be together with the twins. lol.

Keiichi already has one of the twins, Rena and Satoko in his Harem.

Satoshi needs some love too.

[cereal_killerxx]

WOW! Such a great episode this week. When Akasaka showed up in the nick of time, I got goose bumps! Then I freaked out when I found out that Satoshi is alive! I hope they make a third season or OVA for the real ending and extra arcs.

[Sterling01]

WOW! Such a great episode this week. When Akasaka showed up in the nick of time, I got goose bumps! Then I freaked out when I found out that Satoshi is alive! I hope they make a third season or OVA for the real ending and extra arcs.
There are two endings to Higurashi.

This one which is the good end and The PS2 one which is the true end

Even though the PS2's ending is called the true end both endings are considered canon

It's just a case of personal opinon

[Rayneing]

Keiichi already has one of the twins, Rena and Satoko in his Harem.

Satoshi needs some love too.

Since when have Satoko or Shion been in his harem?

[Sterling01]

Since when have Satoko or Shion been in his harem?
I was talking about Mion not Shion

[fict_ticious]

Akasaka, you are my hero. He's been brushing up on his hokuto shinken.

[Mitsu Aoi]

one word~

EPIC

I havent tried the Visual Novels but at Daybreak it really proves that Akasaka is a experienced martial artist

This is one of the greatest eps I seen
Satoshi is still alive
Akasaka my hero!!!
Sonozaki twins comedy

[SirusRiddler]

Well I know all that stuff, I find it pretty funny myself, but I thought you might have mentioned it because they say it when Okonogi tries punching Akasaka very consistantly.

Ah, yes sorry about that. :P I didn't mean to lecture you about something you already knew. I don't exactly know how many people here really know about NicoNico. Well...good to know a few do. xD

[Rayneing]

I was talking about Mion not Shion

Ooops, misread. Thought you said 'the twins' not 'one of the twins.'

But still, since when has Satoko been in there?

[Sterling01]

Ooops, misread. Thought you said 'the twins' not 'one of the twins.'

But still, since when has Satoko been in there?
I don't know but she's in there

[Eryops]

I havent tried the Visual Novels but at Daybreak it really proves that Akasaka is a experienced martial artist
He's such a good martial artist that he can launch energy blasts from his hands. :)

But still, since when has Satoko been in there?
You could classify the club as his harem. Though that does leave out Oryou Sonozaki, who should probably be included after what happened is episode 10 of Kai. She's Higurashi's tsundere character. :)

[Sterling01]

You could classify the club as his harem.

That's what I was thinking as well

[cereal_killerxx]

I really hope that the "true end" gets animated because it sounds really interesting! xD

[Eryops]

I really hope that the "true end" gets animated because it sounds really interesting! xD
That seems extremely unlikely; after all doing so wouldn't fit into the series' continuity. I hope that we'll see Saikoroshi-hen animated though, since it does follow Matsuribayashi-hen. There's been a rumor that an extra episode of Higurashi will be broadcast after episode 24; with a little luck that's what they're planning on producing.

[MarthX]

That seems extremely unlikely; after all doing so wouldn't fit into the series' continuity. I hope that we'll see Saikoroshi-hen animated though, since it does follow Matsuribayashi-hen. There's been a rumor that an extra episode of Higurashi will be broadcast after episode 24; with a little luck that's what they're planning on producing.

The extra episode is a 30 minute special for the upcoming live action Higurashi movie.

[Arcwave]

Yah! Go Akasaka! Indeed a great episode. 10 for Perfect!

Jesse
tricofilms.com

[dspr8_rugged]

A lot has been said about Akasaka's GAR moment in this episode, so I won't be talking about that anymore. :)

Anyway, it's been a long time since I dished out a 10/10 rating for a HiguKai episode (last time it was Episode 13), and this episode deserves such a rating. Not only because of what was mentioned earlier, but because there was tension all around the episode, only this time, nobody died. I really felt that Casey and friends was really placed in really deep crap.

And oh, Satoshi's alive. What a surprise.

Best line in the episode goes to Rika-chama, saying that she'll live on and grow taller and have big breasts. I guess she really doesn't want to lose to Mion as suggested by that DVD extra. :heh:

[Furude-Sam]

One of the best eps ever!

[Mizuno]

someone with PS should replace Akasaka's head with Kenshirou in the shot where he said 'Let me show you a real punch' :heh:

[Killer Loli]

Great Episode or Greatest Episode?
Too bad we didn't get to see Shion or Kasai fire off their big guns :(
Maybe next episode :heh:

[SeventhHS]

someone with PS should replace Akasaka's head with Kenshirou in the shot where he said 'Let me show you a real punch' :heh:

Along those lines: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1703807

[Kristen]

Oh, and what kind of guns are thos that Shion and Kasai have? They didn't look to be machine guns, they just seemed to be manual rifles... Now, the bigger question: Who would win in a fight of Shion and Akasaka?
Even further, when Akasaka was attacking the Yaimanu, why didn't they just shoot him?

Oh, and http://rapidshare.de/files/38006366/Higurashi_22_parody.ass.html if you want a joke sub on this. I made it. ^_^

[Klashikari]

Shion used a Kalashnikov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47), while Kasai was carrying a Shotgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun).

first question: hard, depend of the situation

second question: as seen in the previous arc, and what we can determne in the previous episodes, the Yamainu prime objective is to protect and ensure the safety and secrecy of the institute. As result, they are forced to be discrete (so they couldn't act when the police marked teppei).
In such case, it wouldn't be that surprising if they allocated all the firearms to the assaulting team, while the back didn't have much weaponry. This might be a mistake of their part, but considering their dominating situation, they wouldn't really expect such reinforcement like Akasaka.

[Kristen]

Oh, that was a shotgun? Hm, interesting enough. I guess that means Kasai doesn't know how to use a Kalashnikov.
The thing I am curious on is why they didn't use a gun on Akasaka. It just seems like after he had done a bit of beat-em up action, they'd label him as a threat to the secrecy and kill him...

[Klashikari]

Oh, that was a shotgun? Hm, interesting enough. I guess that means Kasai doesn't know how to use a Kalashnikov.
Considering his expertise and Higurashi Daybreak, Kasai can actually wields a Kalashnikov as well. It looks like the shotgun is rather his weapon of choice, and it is quite logical considering they were in a choke point.
Shion would probably have some problem with the Shotgun, as the recoil might be a big burden on her. Supporting Kasai with the Kalashnikov is also another positive point (Speed and Range). Basically, they combined the weapons, so they are more efficient.
The thing I am curious on is why they didn't use a gun on Akasaka. It just seems like after he had done a bit of beat-em up action, they'd label him as a threat to the secrecy and kill him...First, Akasaka knocked down his 2 pursuers, giving his "whereabouts" unknown to the yamainu.

Second, they completely ignore who is Akasaka, they could only see a strange man running like crazy from Rika's house. Considering he was alone, they can't exactly know his skills and such.

Finally, not only the Yamainu doesn't seem to have large ressource of firearm, but they are outside, in brightday. Much like the bomb issue, the use of firearms is too risky, as the gunfire might draw the attention of the police.
Another problem would be the fact that in the midst of the chaos, they can actually shoot Rika in the same process. A stray bullet can be reality and such risk for their operation is basically out of question.

Even if they were/are armed, they can't use any firearms against Akasaka considering the situation.

[Sorrow-K]

The hostage scene was brilliant. Tense, dramatic, one of the best scenes in the series so far. Really, just outstanding.

And then followed by Akasaka kicking ass and redefining the word "GAR". Wow. Brilliant ep.

Edit: Edit 2: Further work has been done on this sequence, and added Shion + Irie scene.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690883

Anime sequence + original music + original screen capture
Just having the music makes the scene feel completely different...Is there any chance we can get this on Youtube? I don't understand enough moon to watch stuff on nicovideo.

[Avisch]

You'll find out at the end of Matsuribayashi-hen, if they anime that part :D


Akasaka sequence has been reworked, and includes original caption pictures. Also the Shion + Irie scene has been modified with the game music also.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1690883

seeing that makes me realize...BGM sure is important :heh:

I honestly think I can die now. Didn't Akasaka's partners in one of the TIPS call him a demon?

What a great episode.

[BakaOnna]

This episode was on par with ep. 5 and 13 in terms of awesomeness. The feeling and tension was done perfectly without being over-the-top. I really felt a rush of desperation when the others were all trapped inside the hole. And Takano's smug smirk and evil laughter is making me hate her more and more.

Beating the dead horse once again, Akaksaka totally owned. :heh:

Oh, and what did Rika mean by calling the Yaimanu Peons?

[SirusRiddler]

This episode was on par with ep. 5 and 13 in terms of awesomeness. The feeling and tension was done perfectly without being over-the-top. I really felt a rush of desperation when the others were all trapped inside the hole. And Takano's smug smirk and evil laughter is making me hate her more and more.

Beating the dead horse once again, Akaksaka totally owned. :heh:

Oh, and what did Rika mean by calling the Yaimanu Peons?

Well, if you think about it (and you understood her threat to the Yamainu during the well scene), the Yamainu are dependent on the survival of Rika. In other words, she threatened to kill herself if they hurt her friends.

[MidoriHiME]

I missed the bit about Satoshi. Where was it?

[MarthX]

After the credits.

[Mashimaro]

I missed the bit about Satoshi. Where was it?

Ouch, a little worried after hearing that
Could it be you stop watching episodes as soon as the ending song begins? Quite few of the episodes had more parts after the ending song/credits

[MarthX]

Every episode of Matsuribayashi has a scene after the credits. Matsuribayashi started with 14.

[Geburah]

A question a bit offtopic: When Rika said she wanted for her breast to grow, i remembered an scene when she fondles Mion breast saying "makenai". Where it is from? Was it subbed if it was some extra?

[Mizuno]

Geburah: that's from the DVD special.

btw, can someone please tell me how to view the nicovideos?

[zero7090]

lol now i know why Rika want live past June 1983 that badly
"I'm going to grow much taller
My breasts are going to get bigger"

[Cruel]

This was such a great episode. Akasaka is truly awesome! Loved the Satoshi bit. Also, I can't wait to see what's going to happen to Tomitake. I personally hope he makes it out alive.

[Christen]

What does 給料いくらだ exactly mean?

[Ice Climbers]

^i can read the "give fees" part, otherwise I dont know

Pretty nice ep, though the Akasaka fighting part needs a lot of work, just looks way too fake, otherwise, I'm so anticipating the next one

9/10

[Green²]

Even further, when Akasaka was attacking the Yaimanu, why didn't they just shoot him?

Probably was too violent for television to do a two-way gun battle, and maybe they had to do some kind of quick change. Yet if I were to guess on how it would have really been done:

-Akasaka takes down the guy that is about to stick Rika with the needle.
-Yaimanu begin to draw their guns toward Akasaka.
-A busted up Mion burst out of the shelter, firing her assault rifle at the Yaimanu, while drawing other Yaimanu attention.
-Lead Yaimanu and Akasaka go at it.
-Surviving Yaimanu run away.
-Akasaka wipes the blood off of Rika that had been sprayed all over her during Mion's gun battle.
-Mion laughs, but then trips over a shell casing, falling face first into some random bloody dead Yaimanu.
-Everybody then seen laughing.
-Mion shoots at the dead guy that she fell upon, and complains about how much her dress had cost from the Von Maur outlet.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7835/snapshot20071208162917ui9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[-PoLLuX-]

Ahh, who would have thought Akasaka was so strong. I expected Tomitake to have that role. But ahh, my heart was pounding when I saw Akasaka like that. Just so cool!:D


What does 給料いくらだ exactly mean?
Doesn't it mean "How much is the cost?" or something like that

[SirusRiddler]

It literally means, "How much is your salary?"

[Geburah]

Geburah: that's from the DVD special.

btw, can someone please tell me how to view the nicovideos?

You mean nekogoroshi-hen?

[Eryops]

Oh, and what did Rika mean by calling the Yaimanu Peons?
These guys were at the bottom of their organization's chain of command. She was insulting their low rank.

btw, can someone please tell me how to view the nicovideos?
You need to register on the site. Here's (http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6501/moontuberegsj8.jpg) a set of instructions on doing that.

You mean nekogoroshi-hen?
It's from a short extra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYXFT_10uc) that was included in the DVD containing episodes 5 and 6 of Kai.

[Eric the Grey]

Ouch, a little worried after hearing that
Could it be you stop watching episodes as soon as the ending song begins? Quite few of the episodes had more parts after the ending song/credits

Heh, I did the same thing, although since I learned that they've added stuff after the credits, I've been watching for it.

I have an excuse today (er... yesterday) though... It was snowing and I had to leave for work. I'm going to have to go back and re-watch it when I get up today.

This is one of the few episodes I've given a 10 to. The last ep was a mistake, I did that thinking it was this one.. ::rolleyes:


:cool: Eric the Grey

[Miko Miko]

There Winning!!! at the moment.
I thought this episode was really cute!
Akasaka is really strong, never knew that :]


Satoshi is alive :O where is he though?? o_O

[SiRence~]

I watched this ep already a weak ago on nico and i was really touched. i cried when rika got despaired and then got rescued by akasaka. :upset:
since i read the tips before i already knew how damn strong akasaka became, so when he lift his cap and showed his face to rika i thought "lol, yamainu will get damn owned now! :D" :pshe's getting cookies for giving k1 such a nice hint :D. (uh-oh, no, i'm no fangirl. nah, not. me. :uhoh:) when mion screamed her name in her despair, i really really got touched again .. that just showed how much she loves her sister.
i had never doubts he may be dead ... am i the only one?.. it wasn't a really surprise for me when irie mentioned that XD. in the first season i thought he will return after all events, being the cherry with cream of a happy end. and since kai i guessed, irie would care about him. but anyways, i'm really happy for shion now ^^...

[Sterling01]

There Winning!!! at the moment.
I thought this episode was really cute!
Akasaka is really strong, never knew that :]


Satoshi is alive :O where is he though?? o_O

Well at the end of the episode Shion did say that she needed to go to the clinic no matter what

[Archuka]

- Rika's sudden wish to grow bigger boobs sure came unexpected. Talk about a mood breaker. :heh:

- I was also a little disappointed the Yamainu did not pull out their guns after Akasaka kicked their asses. Surely that's better than forfeiting the operation and fleeing?

- How cool would it have been if Akasaka had gone Shoryuken!! on Okonogi? :D

[Solafighter]

Great episode! :)

"Weak."
-"Let me show you a real punch."
*BAAAM!*


:heh:

[Neaco]

- Rika's sudden wish to grow bigger boobs sure came unexpected. Talk about a mood breaker. :heh:

- I was also a little disappointed the Yamainu did not pull out their guns after Akasaka kicked their asses. Surely that's better than forfeiting the operation and fleeing?

- How cool would it have been if Akasaka had gone Shoryuken!! on Okonogi? :D

Akasaka FTW

lol I swear one of his attacks in Daybreak looks exactly like a Hadoken.

Well now I know why they made him a strong fighter in there :)

[HashiriyaR32]

Considering his expertise and Higurashi Daybreak, Kasai can actually wields a Kalashnikov as well. It looks like the shotgun is rather his weapon of choice, and it is quite logical considering they were in a choke point.

When I was watching a HidebuKai gameplay vid, I thought Kasai's "machine gun" was an M1 Thompson SMG. I never thought it would actually be an AK.

And anyone notice this: When we first see Mion holding the AK, it looks like an AK-74 (slightly curved magazine gives it away). But after the fight, when Kasai asks Akasaka whether or not he can handle an automatic weapon, we see it as an AK-47 (distinctive curved magazine is due to the dimensions of the cartridge)? If anyone has played Matsuribayashi-hen, is the model consistent throughout the scene?

Image one. We see AK-74
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2318/snapshot20071209025625al3.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20071209025625al3.jpg)

Image two. Now I'm starting to get confused. The magazine looks slightly curved (74 mag), but it's locked into the mag well at an ungodly angle.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2465/snapshot20071209030351ao5.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20071209030351ao5.jpg)

Image three. I see AK-47
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6241/snapshot20071209030528ue9.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20071209030528ue9.jpg)

[Eryops]

- I was also a little disappointed the Yamainu did not pull out their guns after Akasaka kicked their asses. Surely that's better than forfeiting the operation and fleeing?
As it was said by others, there was a risk that the police might get called in by gunshot sounds. Besides, in the episode preview we see Takano gathering all the Yamainu, so it isn't illogical for them to withdraw in order to regroup and try different tactics after encountering stronger opposition than what they had anticipated.

[Theo]

As it was said by others, there was a risk that the police might get called in by gunshot sounds. Besides, in the episode preview we see Takano gathering all the Yamainu, so it isn't illogical for them to withdraw in order to regroup and try different tactics after encountering stronger opposition than what they had anticipated.

Not to nitpick, but couldn't they have used those snipers with silencers back in the previous arc in case anyone interfered?

Ah, maybe I'm just too uptight about it and people should just enjoy the show.

[kitedragon]

HashiriyaR32: We may never know what gun that is, as the artwork is obviously inconsistent.

Kenta: nicovideos require signing up. Don't ask me how, though. And I remember that you need to be a Japanese resident.

Technically, the place that Akasaka punched on the car is one of the harder places to make a dent as he didn't just punch the windshield. And I'm surprised as to how jacked he is. I've seen people that can lift 300 pounds bend over from a well placed punch in the chest. Then again, those people wouldn' find punching a windshield easy...

The statement that Rika made on breast sizes was a bit surprising. Then again, the DVD specials had been revealed for a while... wonder what she'll look like when she grows up. No more higu pittan?

[BaalChaamon]

Akasaka rocks!Seriously, this episode had me biting my nails.I was on the verge of giving up on the whole operation Rika&co had planned.Higurashi rarely fails to deliver!

and hooray for satoshi!! :D cant wait till next week!
10/10

[-MotokoAoyama-]

Just watched the episode today. It was totally, totally awesome. Akasaka was so crazy!!!!!! Going to look forward to the next episode!

[Sinestra]

Takano being on the defensive I have waited for this moment. Takano is underestimating her enemy something you never do. Its coming down to the wire and i couldnt be anymore excited. Akasaka is the man way to show up and play the hero his timing was perfect and he totally owned the MIW.

I loved when Rika is climbing the ladder in the torture chamber and she is talking about living on and then says my breast will get bigger I wont be trapped in a girls body anymore. That breast comment had me laughing Rika has never said anything like that before. Also, Shion and Mion's little exchange was touching as we get confirmation again about how Mion feels about Keiichi (we all knew anyway) and then the big shocker someone who we all thought was dead is alive wow Satoshi where art thou

10/10 no doubt

[Kanzaki Urumi]

HashiriyaR32

The statement that Rika made on breast sizes was a bit surprising. Then again, the DVD specials had been revealed for a while... wonder what she'll look like when she grows up. No more higu pittan?

i would love to see how she looks like when she has grown up. :cool:

Akasaka sure have improved a lot on his skills/technique. When i saw how he whoops yamainu's ass, i feel sorry for tomitake. :D Weird thing is that Yamainu never used their guns. I wanna see ooishi+akasaka pairing again :p.

[Kanzaki Urumi]

Takano being on the defensive I have waited for this moment. Takano is underestimating her enemy something you never do. Its coming down to the wire and i couldnt be anymore excited. Akasaka is the man way to show up and play the hero his timing was perfect and he totally owned the MIW.

I loved when Rika is climbing the ladder in the torture chamber and she is talking about living on and then says my breast will get bigger I wont be trapped in a girls body anymore. That breast comment had me laughing Rika has never said anything like that before. Also, Shion and Mion's little exchange was touching as we get confirmation again about how Mion feels about Keiichi (we all knew anyway) and then the big shocker someone who we all thought was dead is alive wow Satoshi where art thou

10/10 no doubt

about the breast thing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYXFT_10uc ;)

[Sinestra]

about the breast thing, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYXFT_10uc ;)

OMFG that was great i totally forgot about the DVD extra's thanks man.

[Kanzaki Urumi]

OMFG that was great i totally forgot about the DVD extra's thanks man.

np, it was hilarious when i first watched it, now it find it cute :D

[Sinestra]

np, it was hilarious when i first watched it, now it find it cute :D

God i hope the series ends well just for the fact of seeing Mion, Shion and Rika all grown up im sure they all grow up to be beauties and who knows maybe Rika will get her wish for large and plushy nature pillows

[PNGO]

I gave it an 8.
At first i thought it was full of drama and was somehow an inspiring episode which tells you to never give up hope, that was sweet, BUT THEN I wouldn't imagine that hope comes in as BULLSh**, man wtf how the hell he beat all those guys and became like a DBZ kinda bullsh**, I guess they ran out of ideas and decided to make that dude go super saying or something.

[SiRence~]

I gave it an 8.
At first i thought it was full of drama and was somehow an inspiring episode which tells you to never give up hope, that was sweet, BUT THEN I wouldn't imagine that hope comes in as BULLSh**, man wtf how the hell he beat all those guys and became like a DBZ kinda bullsh**, I guess they ran out of ideas and decided to make that dude go super saying or something.
you may read the sliver of a piece (piece #51) (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=750889#post750889) which was left in the anime, it kind of explains why he became such a "dbz like bullsh**". :eyebrow: but i understand well that people who don't know this piece will be a little bit ... surprised + confused XD"

[Klashikari]

slow as usual... hope it still worth the wait >_>
Episode 22: Analysis (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kai-episode-22-analysis-thoughts-and-random-comments/)

More original BGM from the gamu ^^

[FlareKnight]

Not like one can't understand Rika wanting to get out of that body. Eternal loli may sound nice, but nothing wrong with wanting to get physically older. Think most would look forward to seeing her grown up.

[Eryops]

Not like one can't understand Rika wanting to get out of that body. Eternal loli may sound nice, but nothing wrong with wanting to get physically older. Think most would look forward to seeing her grown up.
Considering that Irie tells her "Please remain in such pure appearance forever!", I think that he'd disagree. :)

[Sterling01]

Considering that Irie tells her "Please remain in such pure appearance forever!", I think that he'd disagree. :)
There's also Lolisaka to worry about

[Tengusoldier]

you may read the sliver of a piece (piece #51) (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=750889#post750889) which was left in the anime, it kind of explains why he became such a "dbz like bullsh**". :eyebrow: but i understand well that people who don't know this piece will be a little bit ... surprised + confused XD"


I got all teary eyed after reading that, no anime background, no awesome BGM, mere letters haven't had such an emotional impact on me since...ever, I swear if someone patched an english translation for the Hugurashi games I'd play that right away.
it was way more involving than watching the anime, which felt quite weird actually.

[Davidj]

I simply can't imagine that Shion's plan would work. There's a real logical disconnect there for me.

[Tengusoldier]

I got all teary eyed after reading that, no anime background, no awesome BGM, mere letters haven't had such an emotional impact on me since...ever, I swear if someone patched an english translation for the Hugurashi games I'd play that right away.
it was way more involving than watching the anime, which felt quite weird actually.


ohh I have aquestion about that tough, is piece #51 is in the future where both wife + Rika died, then how come he is that strong during the time of the Watanagashi.
does that mean that his line "I HAD 5 YEARS" mean he trained that long in the Matsu-hen world? and if so, how could he remember he NEEDED to train like that, no one else remembered anything until they something triggered the memory IIRC.

[Proto]

Reread the last line that Rika tells Akasaka in that piece. From that there stems two explanations. The triggers itself was Akasaka being able to save his wife thanks to Rika's words, or Akasaka becoming unconciously aware that something was needed similar to the other characters. (like Shion protecting Satoko from every word since Tsumihoroboshi hen, etc.)

And indeed, piece 51 is from a word were both Rika and his wife died.

[Davidj]

ohh I have aquestion about that tough, is piece #51 is in the future where both wife + Rika died, then how come he is that strong during the time of the Watanagashi.
does that mean that his line "I HAD 5 YEARS" mean he trained that long in the Matsu-hen world? and if so, how could he remember he NEEDED to train like that, no one else remembered anything until they something triggered the memory IIRC.

He certainly remembered fighting the Yamainu 5 years earlier and not doing particularly well.

[Tengusoldier]

Reread the last line that Rika tells Akasaka in that piece. From that there stems two explanations. The triggers itself was Akasaka being able to save his wife thanks to Rika's words, or Akasaka becoming unconciously aware that something was needed similar to the other characters. (like Shion protecting Satoko from every word since Tsumihoroboshi hen, etc.)

And indeed, piece 51 is from a word were both Rika and his wife died.

right, saving Rika may very well be the trigger, and sorry "is" was a typo for "if" it was pretty well explained that they died in that world.

I've always wondered if the reboort is an actual reboot tough, or if keeps existing as an alternate reality.

[MarthX]

I gave it an 8.

1 out of 10 : Painful PNGO

Uh... :uhoh:

[Sterling01]

That's quite a difference

[bamboontu]

I gave it an 8.

1 out of 10 : Painful PNGO

嘘つき! [usotsuki!] :p

[HigurashiNeze1231]

Is there any chance we can get this on Youtube? I don't understand enough moon to watch stuff on nicovideo.

I uploaded it to YouTube myself, but I only uploaded the fight scene, not the Irie and Shion scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-83f6IlEqA (Might take a little while to process first)

[Lost-Wisdom]

This episode had so many great moments that my brain short-circuited.