View Full Version : Code Geass season 2 -- SPRING!
Yeah, I can't help but wonder if they're going to have scenes where Lelouch will feel kind of awkward within his room. Like, he'll have this sort of feeling within him that something seems a bit misplaced - say, he's walking down the hall to his room, and he makes a motion of some sort that says that he's expecting something exasperating to happen once he enters it. Cue him arriving, he feels a little surprised that there isn't something there, just his regular furnishings and the like.
Guh. Sunrise should at least have a trailer where C.C. is doing something in her new outfit, no matter how big or small. Just a tidbit.
You want to know something I want an answer about? Why does C.C. like pizza so much? I know it seems like such a trivial thing, but the sheer look of horror she had on her face when the giant pizza was ruined just had me wondering why she loves it that much. I wonder if the Pizza Hut ads and jokes will continue. I'd imagine Lelouch still has all that Cheese-kun stuff in his room, unless he threw it out.
CC: (suddenly serious) "Lelouch. Eating pizza is one of the reasons for my existence in this world. It's foreordained to be this way."
Lelouch:...Huh?
CC:"Yes...the name C.C. is actually short for "Cheese & Crust", after all."
Guh. Sunrise should at least have a trailer where C.C. is doing something in her new outfit, no matter how big or small. Just a tidbit.
At least we have art of her new outfit, and some idea of what's happening with her. What about Cornelia and Llyod and Cecile and Nunnally and Kaguya? What about Kallen, what's she going to wear when she's not piloting or hanging out with the Order?
Stretch5920
2008-02-12, 23:10
What about Kallen, what's she going to wear when she's not piloting or hanging out with the Order?
Bunny suit hopefully.
Bunny suit hopefully.
speaking of bunnysuits, I will somewhat echo Elicit's point insofar as I want to know if C.C.'s going to keep cosplaying and if so what those costumes will be. :heh:
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-12, 23:21
Well, if pictures serve as a reference Nunnally is wearing a rather high class but conservative Victorian style outfit, complete with a one of a kind purple butterfly brooch... Geez, since when did this turn into a fashion announcement? :D
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-12, 23:30
Well, it would be pretty strange that he had a Cheese-kun pillow and had no idea how it got their in the first place... still they better not edit him out, Cheese-kun was one of the best advertisement spoofs every!!
Lelouch: Empty pizza boxes? Cheap advertisement Plushie gimmick? Altered clothing for women? What the hell's been going on here?
Rollo: Lelouch, it's your most favorite and beloved sibling unlike the forgotten, blind, and crippled (name censored) Come give me a hug!!
Lelouch:.............. Whoever lived with me before, COME BACK PLEASE!!!!!:upset:
I found the scenes with Cheese-kun pointless but amusing nonetheless. I hope they continue and that Lelouch kept at least the one pillow.
I want to know too. You see all Cheese-kuns (Prural!!!!) she has!!!! According to what I remember, you need to order A LOT of pizza before you can get ONE Cheese-kun. (I, somehow feel bad for Lelouch about the money he had spent on those pizzas C.C. ordered. )
And about Lelouch keep Cheese-kuns, I sure hope so. It might be a key for him to remember C.C. again(in case he has amnesia.)
A better question is how she didn't get incredibly fat from eating all that pizza. I'm sure Lelouch's finacials were enough to handle C.C.'s need for pizza.
He better damn well have kept them all or someone will be angry. He may have kept them if he felt he should have, even if he didn't fully understand why. Maybe he found something of Nunnally's like her cranes and kept them.
On that note, if Lelouch did forget about Nunnally wouldn't he wonder why there is a section full of girl's clothes in his home? Unless Rollo took care of it all.
Yeah, I can't help but wonder if they're going to have scenes where Lelouch will feel kind of [I]awkward within his room. Like, he'll have this sort of feeling within him that something seems a bit misplaced - say, he's walking down the hall to his room, and he makes a motion of some sort that says that he's expecting something exasperating to happen once he enters it. Cue him arriving, he feels a little surprised that there isn't something there, just his regular furnishings and the like.
Guh. Sunrise should at least have a trailer where C.C. is doing something in her new outfit, no matter how big or small. Just a tidbit.
I was actually thinking about some sort of scene like that where he would be expecting for someone (C.C. or Nunnally) to be there and they aren't. He'd just feel something was not right. Given the year though, he may have gotten over any of those feelings to some degree unless he has some overwhelming feeling that there is something he should be doing.
At least we have art of her new outfit, and some idea of what's happening with her. What about Cornelia and Llyod and Cecile and Nunnally and Kaguya? What about Kallen, what's she going to wear when she's not piloting or hanging out with the Order?
I don't think we will get much on Nunnally for a while, unless they show random scenes of her in some odd place. We already saw her in what looked like a royal looking dress so I am going with that she is with the Emperor. This may sound bad, but I hope she misses her brother dearly and that V.V. hasn't be messing with her mind.
speaking of bunnysuits, I will somewhat echo Elicit's point insofar as I want to know if C.C.'s going to keep cosplaying and if so what those costumes will be. :heh:
Well, I think I recall reading that CLAMP designed two new outfiits for C.C. so I am waiting to see the other one.
Lugia_Tsuyu
2008-02-12, 23:51
A better question is how she didn't get incredibly fat from eating all that pizza. I'm sure Lelouch's finacials were enough to handle C.C.'s need for pizza.
Yeah, agreed to that. =_='' (I think it probably will be one of the questions we won't get an answer)
And thanks for the link of Sound Episode translation you gave me. >_< But it so sad what C.C. said to Kallen about Lelouch won't involve any women that are truly important to him, so she is the least consider for Lelocu to be worried. And also the thing she said about the true meaning of loneliness TT_TT
Koshimizu
2008-02-13, 00:52
It took me too long to post this. This thread is already taken over by Cheese-kun!
It makes me feel awkward to post this after all the Cheese-kun mania. ;p
Don't be that pessimistic. ;)
I believe Taniguchi is the type of director that makes anime the way he likes, rather than to please the audience or to be educational. Basically, he loves Lelouch (shown in some interview last April, can't remeber which). And Suzaku is the type he detests (not clearly said, but he bashed him pretty hard in the picture drama in DVD9). I just don't see him making an ending that make himself feel bitter. If Suzaku is the last one standing, he will either feel totally miserable, filled with regret and emptiness, or is despised by all audiences except for the most rabid fangirls.
I will snap my Code Geass DVDs in half if Nunnally ended up with Suzaku. It disgusts me to think of this. For Suzaku to hold Nunnally's hand over Lelouch's dead body is no less than abduction. Sure, these two togather was what Lelouch wished. Was. I doubt if he will think this way after what happened at the cave. Not only because they are likely never going to make up, also because Suzaku proved himself to be untrustworthy. First off, he doesn't give a damn about Nunnally's feelings. Secondly, today he can put his revenge before Nunnally's safety; tomorrow he can put other things before Nunnally. Sure he cares about her, but that's nothing near his top priority list. If he's busy with his own business, Nunnally can die and rot somewhere for all he cares. Suzaku basically is an extremely selfish person full of himself. Every single thing he does (including fabulous thing like saving lives blahblahblah) was done solely to make himself feel good. (As told by Mao.) One may argue that Lelouch is about the same. But at least Lelouch knows what love is, and how it's giving without asking for return. Suzaku, in spite of being "experienced", only knows how to flirt.
Seeing how Ougi takes care of Kouzuki group (although he kept saying "Naoto, I'm not made for this Q_Q"), and looks after Kallen after Naoto died, I say even Ougi is more trustworthy than Suzaku. If Lelouch/Zero's last word is "please take care of my sister", I can see Ougi protecting her with all he's got for as long as it takes. (Of course he's not going to merry her or anything. It's like how he looks after Kallen.)
Everyone will probably get a shot, but only one can win in the end. Why does that sound oddly like Highlander?
I don't think Lelouch is actually going to destroy Britannia completely, just take out the current ruling system by taking the Emperor down. I don't know if Lelouch going truly evil and then being killed would be sad exactly, but it would be both disappointing and infuriate me to no degree. I don't know how much of a danger of that happening there is though as it would simply prove Suzaku right about Lelouch which I don't see Taniguchi doing.
I demand a harem ending! Lelouch, don't break the girls' hearts! Become the emperor and merry them all! j/k
Lelouch is standing at the turn point of history. The world he's in is not ours. There's no democracy in his country, and perhaps time has come for it to change. I heard that in this month's Animedia, Producer Kawaguchi said "R2" stands for "R"s like "Return" and "Revolution". This is a good sign. (In Newtype, Taniguchi gave "Revenge" and "Reconstruction" for the "R"s.)
In the beginning of R2, they will show the world situation. EU is at war with both Britannia and China. Although Britannia wants to crush EU, their defense line in El Alamein still holds firmly and Britannia isn't getting any progress. The relationship between Britannia and China isn't exactly friendly, either. The emperor of China has no actual power, and the high eunuchs are the ones actually grabbing the power. (Dann, your guess is right!) Lee sees this corruptness in China and is eagerly seeking to change his country. Schenizel's ambition will show in the future. Every country is filled with unstableness. The world is at war. It is not impossible to overturn Britannia.
At the end of S1, Lelouch, with all the power he holds (both the geass and the army), and all the fame and admiration he received, wasn't lost. He knows what is truly important to him. His one simple intention is to make a better world for Nunnally, and extended, a better world for the weak ones. This is one major difference between him and Light (although I really don't like Death Not comparisons). Light lost his original goal after having too much power in his hands, Lelouch has never forgotten.
From how Taniguchi portraits him, if, just if, he does die in the end, it will likely be in dignity and respected, at least he will be in content. I just don't see a swimming lesson coming.
Don't worry about Lelouch's mental status. One of the key points of R2 is "to make Lelouch a charming person, this will not be changed", as told in Animage. (And by "charming" here it's not referring to becoming attractive to girls in the show, but to be more likable to us audiences.)
(It's Chinese New Year and everything imported is being held at the customs! >< I really want to get these magazines since no one's scanning the interview pages.)
Yeah, agreed to that. =_='' (I think it probably will be one of the questions we won't get an answer)
And thanks for the link of Sound Episode translation you gave me. >_< But it so sad what C.C. said to Kallen about Lelouch won't involve any women that are truly important to him, so she is the least consider for Lelouch to be worried. And also the thing she said about the true meaning of loneliness TT_TT
Don't trust a single thing C.C. and Lelouch say about themselves, they're chronic liars whenever they have to deal with their own feelings.
So when C.C. says "it's just a contract", that means for her it's quickly escalating into being far from just a contract.
Seeing how Ougi takes care of Kouzuki group (although he kept saying "Naoto, I'm not made for this Q_Q"), and looks after Kallen after Naoto died, I say even Ougi is more trustworthy than Suzaku. If Lelouch/Zero's last word is "please take care of my sister", I can see Ougi protecting her with all he's got for as long as it takes. (Of course he's not going to merry her or anything. It's like how he looks after Kallen.)
I dunno, wouldn't you say that Ougi qualifies as the absolutely most trustyworthy person Lelouch knows in the Black Knights? Ougi is basically the only guy in the entire organization who somehow manages to understand Lelouch (like his line about never being able to treat allies like chess pieces in 11), who can be trusted to not fall into crazy reverse-racism (and nearly married a Britannian), who knew Lelouch was in trouble in 25, and in a lot of ways has the same "I suck", self sacrificing kind of attitude Lelouch has.
Stretch5920
2008-02-13, 02:33
So when C.C. says "it's just a contract", that means for her it's quickly escalating into being far from just a contract.
tsundere behaviour
Koshimizu
2008-02-13, 02:39
A better question is how she didn't get incredibly fat from eating all that pizza. I'm sure Lelouch's financials were enough to handle C.C.'s need for pizza.
On that note, if Lelouch did forget about Nunnally wouldn't he wonder why there is a section full of girl's clothes in his home? Unless Rollo took care of it all.This is classic (http://sns.atpne.jp/tksns/img.php?filename=d_1_3763_1202889524.gif).
Whoever messed with his memory (if that's what happened) should have taken care of Nunnally's stuff. Also, when there's no wheelchair girl to begin with, there's no reason for Lelouch to live in the clubhouse. It's more likely for him and Rollo to move to boy's dorm.
Rollo seems like an easy prey for bullies. If the Lamperouge Brothers live in the clubhouse to show they are so special, I can imagine him getting picked on even more often. Maybe not getting beaten up thanks to the student council behind him, but at least he'd be pretty much isolated in class.
Don't trust a single thing C.C. and Lelouch say about themselves, they're chronic liars whenever they have to deal with their own feelings.
So when C.C. says "it's just a contract", that means for her it's quickly escalating into being far from just a contract.Standard Tsundere! "I... I didn't prepare this lunchbox for you. I just happened to cooked enough to make an extra one, and it's a waste to throw it away. Don't be mistaken!"
I dunno, wouldn't you say that Ougi qualifies as the absolutely most trustyworthy person Lelouch knows in the Black Knights? Ougi is basically the only guy in the entire organization who somehow manages to understand Lelouch (like his line about never being able to treat allies like chess pieces in 11), who can be trusted to not fall into crazy reverse-racism (and nearly married a Britannian), who knew Lelouch was in trouble in 25, and in a lot of ways has the same "I suck", self sacrificing kind of attitude Lelouch has.Ah. I didn't notice connection of the self sacrificing attitude.
True. He's probably the most trustworthy person in the show. ;)
And there's the line about his fury against Britannia is true, and one who knows fury would understand sorrow.
Although I always wondered how he managed to see through Lelouch. Maybe it's the instinct of a teacher. (Then he might have already found that Zero is pretty young.)
I think the luckiest thing for Lelouch is to have Ougi around, and fully backing him up. Of course genius in public affairs like Diethard is important too. But it's Ougi that's keeping OotBK running smoothly. I always hoped Lelouch would open up to him more. He's the only one that might give him some nice advice as a senior (instead of evil ideas like Diethard XD).
I hope he didn't survive many death flags for nothing, and we'll see more of him in R2.
Death flag- Things you shouldn't do before an important battle: say "I'm getting married after this", "I have something important to tell you after I return", "look, this is my baby, he just learned how to walk", kiss someone goodbye, show/look/talk to photos of beloved ones, etc. Soldiers who do so have like an 90% chance of not returning. Yet Ougi survived after doing more than one of the above. XD
Koshimizu
2008-02-13, 03:22
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivelz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
C.C.: undressing (same as before) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269470.jpg), (same as pervious) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269090.jpg), comic (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/268670.jpg)
Translation-
(top part about Zero's new design.)
Now it's separated. The coat is tuxedo style. There are delicate decoration on the sleeve.
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivelz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
C.C.: undressing (same as before) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269470.jpg), (same as pervious) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269090.jpg), comic (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/268670.jpg)
Translation-
(top part about Zero's new design.)
Now it's separated. The coat is tuxedo style. There are delicate decoration on the sleeve.
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
That's good one, i wish some parts from this comic would become true: like C.C. becoming Lulu's wife :naughty:
lightbringer
2008-02-13, 06:45
But actually C.C. taking over temporarily would make sense. OotBK have taken orders from her before after all. :heh:
New magazine photo!
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
It would be wonderful! *__* That comic is very amusing! XD
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-13, 09:58
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivelz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
C.C.: undressing (same as before) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269470.jpg), (same as pervious) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269090.jpg), comic (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/268670.jpg)
Translation-
(top part about Zero's new design.)
Now it's separated. The coat is tuxedo style. There are delicate decoration on the sleeve.
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
Thief, naysayer, Rivalz hater, we can have you arrested for that!!! :mad:
Kid shows up for one dang year and he thinks he can take anything he wants, he really is Lelouch's brother!! :p
Oh, and I can so see Diethard babysitting Lelouch and C.C's love child... but getting pregnant through a kiss? I mean I've heard of hugging but... well id anyone can do it, it's probably C.C :D
BTW, what's Kallen saying about this whole mess? She's got some Kanji above her and a look of absolute shock! :confused:
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 10:18
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivelz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
We kinda expected Rollo's action :p Until the day when Lulu niisan buys him a bike since he has so much for C.C's pizza supply :p
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
:heh:
Standard Tsundere! "I... I didn't prepare this lunchbox for you. I just happened to cooked enough to make an extra one, and it's a waste to throw it away. Don't be mistaken!"
Ah. I didn't notice connection of the self sacrificing attitude.
True. He's probably the most trustworthy person in the show. ;)
And there's the line about his fury against Britannia is true, and one who knows fury would understand sorrow.
Although I always wondered how he managed to see through Lelouch. Maybe it's the instinct of a teacher. (Then he might have already found that Zero is pretty young.)
I dunno, I mean after what happened in 24? The woman he loves shoots him, and he just responds "I see...so your memories have returned". >_> It's not quite Lelouch's way of thinking (it's more of a "go ahead, I'm incompetent" than "go ahead, I'm evil"), but it still amounts to the same "don't blame yourself, blame me" attitude.
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivalz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
Curse you Rollo! Curse you for taking the one thing that made Rivalz even slightly involved with the plot!
I swear, the show hasn't even started and Rollo and Arthur are already breaking my heart. ;_;
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-13, 12:22
Well, it wouldn't be Code Geass if we didn't get characters we love to hate ;)
I guess the part of the trailer where Rollo takes his helmet off is part of that joyride.
-KarumA-
2008-02-13, 16:16
I guess the part of the trailer where Rollo takes his helmet off is part of that joyride.
i bet the motor will get trashed and he'll have to apologyze =P
though it was a little unexpected for him to steal it, atleased that is what i thought of it.. ia lways thought Rollo was kind and very carefull etc.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 16:25
y apologies for this being incredibly long due to the quotes and replies.
It took me too long to post this. This thread is already taken over by Cheese-kun!
It makes me feel awkward to post this after all the Cheese-kun mania. ;p
Don't be that pessimistic. ;)
I believe Taniguchi is the type of director that makes anime the way he likes, rather than to please the audience or to be educational. Basically, he loves Lelouch (shown in some interview last April, can't remeber which). And Suzaku is the type he detests (not clearly said, but he bashed him pretty hard in the picture drama in DVD9). I just don't see him making an ending that make himself feel bitter. If Suzaku is the last one standing, he will either feel totally miserable, filled with regret and emptiness, or is despised by all audiences except for the most rabid fangirls.
I will snap my Code Geass DVDs in half if Nunnally ended up with Suzaku. It disgusts me to think of this. For Suzaku to hold Nunnally's hand over Lelouch's dead body is no less than abduction. Sure, these two togather was what Lelouch wished. Was. I doubt if he will think this way after what happened at the cave. Not only because they are likely never going to make up, also because Suzaku proved himself to be untrustworthy. First off, he doesn't give a damn about Nunnally's feelings. Secondly, today he can put his revenge before Nunnally's safety; tomorrow he can put other things before Nunnally. Sure he cares about her, but that's nothing near his top priority list. If he's busy with his own business, Nunnally can die and rot somewhere for all he cares. Suzaku basically is an extremely selfish person full of himself. Every single thing he does (including fabulous thing like saving lives blahblahblah) was done solely to make himself feel good. (As told by Mao.) One may argue that Lelouch is about the same. But at least Lelouch knows what love is, and how it's giving without asking for return. Suzaku, in spite of being "experienced", only knows how to flirt.
Seeing how Ougi takes care of Kouzuki group (although he kept saying "Naoto, I'm not made for this Q_Q"), and looks after Kallen after Naoto died, I say even Ougi is more trustworthy than Suzaku. If Lelouch/Zero's last word is "please take care of my sister", I can see Ougi protecting her with all he's got for as long as it takes. (Of course he's not going to merry her or anything. It's like how he looks after Kallen.)
Lelouch is standing at the turn point of history. The world he's in is not ours. There's no democracy in his country, and perhaps time has come for it to change. I heard that in this month's Animedia, Producer Kawaguchi said "R2" stands for "R"s like "Return" and "Revolution". This is a good sign. (In Newtype, Taniguchi gave "Revenge" and "Reconstruction" for the "R"s.)
In the beginning of R2, they will show the world situation. EU is at war with both Britannia and China. Although Britannia wants to crush EU, their defense line in El Alamein still holds firmly and Britannia isn't getting any progress. The relationship between Britannia and China isn't exactly friendly, either. The emperor of China has no actual power, and the high eunuchs are the ones actually grabbing the power. (Dann, your guess is right!) Lee sees this corruptness in China and is eagerly seeking to change his country. Schenizel's ambition will show in the future. Every country is filled with unstableness. The world is at war. It is not impossible to overturn Britannia.
At the end of S1, Lelouch, with all the power he holds (both the geass and the army), and all the fame and admiration he received, wasn't lost. He knows what is truly important to him. His one simple intention is to make a better world for Nunnally, and extended, a better world for the weak ones. This is one major difference between him and Light (although I really don't like Death Not comparisons). Light lost his original goal after having too much power in his hands, Lelouch has never forgotten.
From how Taniguchi portraits him, if, just if, he does die in the end, it will likely be in dignity and respected, at least he will be in content. I just don't see a swimming lesson coming.
Don't worry about Lelouch's mental status. One of the key points of R2 is "to make Lelouch a charming person, this will not be changed", as told in Animage. (And by "charming" here it's not referring to becoming attractive to girls in the show, but to be more likable to us audiences.)
(It's Chinese New Year and everything imported is being held at the customs! >< I really want to get these magazines since no one's scanning the interview pages.)
Sorry about the depressing scenarios and such. I tend to sometimes expect the worst or expect for things to turn out reletively well only for something to happen that leaves that bitter taste in your mouth. Given the general mood of the show and the events taking place, it isn't hard to imagine things going very, very bad and staying that way.
I didn't actually start thinking things could turn out better until I noticed Taniguchi was directing and took a look at most of his works he directed. I don't think it was simply a coincidence that all of the main protagonists in the works he directed ended up reletively happy or at least in a situation that could eventually become happy to some degree. I'm glad to hear he likes Lelouch so much as that seems like a good sign that things won't be too bad in the end. Leaving the ending at Suzaku killing Lelouch and Suzaku being miserable seems a bit of an odd way to leave things now that I think about it more.
Suzaku's actions in 24-25 were what really made me begin to dislike him when before I had only mildly felt annoyed by his actions. I understood his anger given his lack of info on the true circumstances, but when he completely refused Lelouch's offer I started to truly dislike him. It had more to do with the fact that Suzaku pretty much dropped the matter and focused on finishing Lelouch off, when it was clear that Nunnally was in danger and that it was likely the one who told him about the Geass (V.V.) as Lelouch quickly guessed. I'm actually glad that Taniguchi makes it clear that Suzaku isn't really that good of a person, though I am wondering whether some Japanese will still view him as their hope. Being appointed to such a position certainly seems to make it clear that one can rise despite bad circumstances, but the chances of gaining such a thing are slim and still don't change the fact that the Japanese have practically no rights and that the way the world is now is not good.
Ougi really is one of my favorite characters in this show and I agree that if Lelouch were to leave Nunnally with anyone and be confident they would be taken care of it should be Ougi.
I've sometimes find it a bit odd how what Taniguchi and Kawaguchi say about things differ, like what each said about the themes of Code Geass. Still, Recontruction or Revolution seem like good meanings for the R.
I had sort of hoped that EU and China may have thought to work together in order to bring down Britannia's power, but I guess that was too much to hope for. The fact that both the EU and China seem to be holding out shows what they could contribute if Lelouch can get them on his side. Of course, each side probably would have their own ulterior motives which could lead to some sort of betrayal. Given Lee’s desire to change things I could see him and Lelouch forming a solid amount of respect for one another, though they may have differing views on things which may lead to that whole thing about Lee being a rival of Zero. Schneizal used to give me a Final Villain vibe when he appeared in the opening, but the Emperor looks as if he may fill that role which makes me wonder what sort of role he will play. Lelouch could really stabilize things if he goes about it in the right way, but there are going to be plenty of people who don’t want things to change that much.
I dislike the DN comparisons as well, but they can serve as a way to show that Lelouch isn’t a bad person really by comparing him to someone who had a goal that was similar in some ways.
You have know idea how happy it makes me to hear that. I was very worried he may go too far into the dark, but the fact that they plan to make Lelouch more charming and likable lessons my fears greatly of that happening. I suppose we will see a lot more of that kind side to him, which will probably factor into the romance.
If you could please post the interviews when you get the chance that would be wonderful. I really want to know if any other good info about character progression and plot points is revealed through those.
Don't trust a single thing C.C. and Lelouch say about themselves, they're chronic liars whenever they have to deal with their own feelings.
So when C.C. says "it's just a contract", that means for her it's quickly escalating into being far from just a contract.
I don't really trust anything they ever said about themselves since often times both of them are either overly critical or act in ways that contradict what they say about themselves.
I partly felt that she sort of meant to reaffirm that to herself as well as point it out to Kallen.
This is classic (http://sns.atpne.jp/tksns/img.php?filename=d_1_3763_1202889524.gif).
Whoever messed with his memory (if that's what happened) should have taken care of Nunnally's stuff. Also, when there's no wheelchair girl to begin with, there's no reason for Lelouch to live in the clubhouse. It's more likely for him and Rollo to move to boy's dorm.
Rollo seems like an easy prey for bullies. If the Lamperouge Brothers live in the clubhouse to show they are so special, I can imagine him getting picked on even more often. Maybe not getting beaten up thanks to the student council behind him, but at least he'd be pretty much isolated in class.
Standard Tsundere! "I... I didn't prepare this lunchbox for you. I just happened to cooked enough to make an extra one, and it's a waste to throw it away. Don't be mistaken!"
Ah. I didn't notice connection of the self sacrificing attitude.
True. He's probably the most trustworthy person in the show. ;)
And there's the line about his fury against Britannia is true, and one who knows fury would understand sorrow.
Although I always wondered how he managed to see through Lelouch. Maybe it's the instinct of a teacher. (Then he might have already found that Zero is pretty young.)
I think the luckiest thing for Lelouch is to have Ougi around, and fully backing him up. Of course genius in public affairs like Diethard is important too. But it's Ougi that's keeping OotBK running smoothly. I always hoped Lelouch would open up to him more. He's the only one that might give him some nice advice as a senior (instead of evil ideas like Diethard XD).
I hope he didn't survive many death flags for nothing, and we'll see more of him in R2.
Death flag- Things you shouldn't do before an important battle: say "I'm getting married after this", "I have something important to tell you after I return", "look, this is my baby, he just learned how to walk", kiss someone goodbye, show/look/talk to photos of beloved ones, etc. Soldiers who do so have like an 90% chance of not returning. Yet Ougi survived after doing more than one of the above. XD
True, I hadn’t thought of that. Something I’m curious about is how everyone at Ashford is supposed to accept that Nunnally is gone and that Lelouch suddenly has a new brother out of no where. Either there was some very good excuse for all this, they all had their memories of her erased, or Lelouch actually knows what is going on and came up with something.
I sometimes love Tsundere, though too much of it can be a bad thing.
I sometimes have wondered how old everyone thinks Zero is. I suppose given Ougi’s surprising intuition and understanding he may have figured that Zero is someone quite young.
Ougi is probably one of the most important members really. He often acts as a sort of straight man when arguments are going on like in episode 19 during the argument between Toudou and Diethard. Lelouch also seemed to trust him with a lot of duties such as organizing the conference with Kyoto. I always wanted to see Lelouch open up with him more as well and still have some hope for it. I think he is one of the few who can truly understand Lelouch. He better live till the end and get Viletta back as well.
How do death flags with immortals work? I know C.C. at least did the one about kissing someone goodbye in a way though we know there was some other reason for it.
New magazine photo!
About Rivalz and his bike (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/246510.jpg)
Translation-
Through the improvement of Rivelz's maintainence skills, his bike got a boost in spec too. Lelouch's brother, Rollo, is having a ride on it. It seems that he took it out of the campus without asking him. Poor Rivalz!
C.C.: undressing (same as before) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269470.jpg), (same as pervious) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/269090.jpg), comic (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z21/fengse123/268670.jpg)
Translation-
(top part about Zero's new design.)
Now it's separated. The coat is tuxedo style. There are delicate decoration on the sleeve.
(comic)
C.C.: Since now I'm Zero's wife, that makes me the leader of the OotBK! We had promises (that kiss), and we're gonna have a baby (through that kiss)!
Diethard: Leave it to me! (Is ready to babysit.)
Lelouch: Whaaaat?
Wow, Rollo has quite the nerve doesn’t he? He looks all nice, but then he goes and steals Rivalz’s newly tuned bike. I can’t imagine Rivalz would be happy with that. I’m actually rather curious as to how the council will feel about Rollo. For some reason the fact that they took the time to mention that Rivalz’s maintenance skills have improved makes me wonder if that will become important later on.
I wonder when C.C. is actually going to be walking around like that. I actually like how Lelouch’s outfit is now even if it does seem just a bit too fancy.
That’s just hilarious. I would love to see this either animated or in a picture book just for kicks. I also wouldn’t mind if something like that actually happened, though not in the ridiculous way that C.C. suggested.
Oh, and I can so see Diethard babysitting Lelouch and C.C's love child... but getting pregnant through a kiss? I mean I've heard of hugging but... well id anyone can do it, it's probably C.C :D
BTW, what's Kallen saying about this whole mess? She's got some Kanji above her and a look of absolute shock! :confused:
Strangely, so could I. And it would be hilarious to see as Diethard doesn’t seem like the type who would be fantastic with kids. It would be hilarious if C.C. had actually been serious, but it seems almost as if she did it just to become leader, though having a kid seems to be going a bit far for something like that.
I think I would be shocked to if C.C. suddenly proclaimed that. Jealousy, maybe? Lament over the fact that she will have to listen to C.C. now and get her pizza whenever she wants?
y apologies for this being incredibly long due to the quotes and replies.
Sorry about the depressing scenarios and such. I tend to sometimes expect the worst or expect for things to turn out reletively well only for something to happen that leaves that bitter taste in your mouth. Given the general mood of the show and the events taking place, it isn't hard to imagine things going very, very bad and staying that way.
I didn't actually start thinking things could turn out better until I noticed Taniguchi was directing and took a look at most of his works he directed. I don't think it was simply a coincidence that all of the main protagonists in the works he directed ended up reletively happy or at least in a situation that could eventually become happy to some degree. I'm glad to hear he likes Lelouch so much as that seems like a good sign that things won't be too bad in the end. Leaving the ending at Suzaku killing Lelouch and Suzaku being miserable seems a bit of an odd way to leave things now that I think about it more.
Suzaku's actions in 24-25 were what really made me begin to dislike him when before I had only mildly felt annoyed by his actions. I understood his anger given his lack of info on the true circumstances, but when he completely refused Lelouch's offer I started to truly dislike him. It had more to do with the fact that Suzaku pretty much dropped the matter and focused on finishing Lelouch off, when it was clear that Nunnally was in danger and that it was likely the one who told him about the Geass (V.V.) as Lelouch quickly guessed. I'm actually glad that Taniguchi makes it clear that Suzaku isn't really that good of a person, though I am wondering whether some Japanese will still view him as their hope. Being appointed to such a position certainly seems to make it clear that one can rise despite bad circumstances, but the chances of gaining such a thing are slim and still don't change the fact that the Japanese have practically no rights and that the way the world is now is not good.
Ougi really is one of my favorite characters in this show and I agree that if Lelouch were to leave Nunnally with anyone and be confident they would be taken care of it should be Ougi.
I've sometimes find it a bit odd how what Taniguchi and Kawaguchi say about things differ, like what each said about the themes of Code Geass. Still, Recontruction or Revolution seem like good meanings for the R.
I had sort of hoped that EU and China may have thought to work together in order to bring down Britannia's power, but I guess that was too much to hope for. The fact that both the EU and China seem to be holding out shows what they could contribute if Lelouch can get them on his side. Of course, each side probably would have their own ulterior motives which could lead to some sort of betrayal. Given Lee’s desire to change things I could see him and Lelouch forming a solid amount of respect for one another, though they may have differing views on things which may lead to that whole thing about Lee being a rival of Zero. Schneizal used to give me a Final Villain vibe when he appeared in the opening, but the Emperor looks as if he may fill that role which makes me wonder what sort of role he will play. Lelouch could really stabilize things if he goes about it in the right way, but there are going to be plenty of people who don’t want things to change that much.
I dislike the DN comparisons as well, but they can serve as a way to show that Lelouch isn’t a bad person really by comparing him to someone who had a goal that was similar in some ways.
You have know idea how happy it makes me to hear that. I was very worried he may go too far into the dark, but the fact that they plan to make Lelouch more charming and likable lessons my fears greatly of that happening. I suppose we will see a lot more of that kind side to him, which will probably factor into the romance.
If you could please post the interviews when you get the chance that would be wonderful. I really want to know if any other good info about character progression and plot points is revealed through those.
I don't really trust anything they ever said about themselves since often times both of them are either overly critical or act in ways that contradict what they say about themselves.
I partly felt that she sort of meant to reaffirm that to herself as well as point it out to Kallen.
True, I hadn’t thought of that. Something I’m curious about is how everyone at Ashford is supposed to accept that Nunnally is gone and that Lelouch suddenly has a new brother out of no where. Either there was some very good excuse for all this, they all had their memories of her erased, or Lelouch actually knows what is going on and came up with something.
I sometimes love Tsundere, though too much of it can be a bad thing.
I sometimes have wondered how old everyone thinks Zero is. I suppose given Ougi’s surprising intuition and understanding he may have figured that Zero is someone quite young.
Ougi is probably one of the most important members really. He often acts as a sort of straight man when arguments are going on like in episode 19 during the argument between Toudou and Diethard. Lelouch also seemed to trust him with a lot of duties such as organizing the conference with Kyoto. I always wanted to see Lelouch open up with him more as well and still have some hope for it. I think he is one of the few who can truly understand Lelouch. He better live till the end and get Viletta back as well.
How do death flags with immortals work? I know C.C. at least did the one about kissing someone goodbye in a way though we know there was some other reason for it.
Wow, Rollo has quite the nerve doesn’t he? He looks all nice, but then he goes and steals Rivalz’s newly tuned bike. I can’t imagine Rivalz would be happy with that. I’m actually rather curious as to how the council will feel about Rollo. For some reason the fact that they took the time to mention that Rivalz’s maintenance skills have improved makes me wonder if that will become important later on.
I wonder when C.C. is actually going to be walking around like that. I actually like how Lelouch’s outfit is now even if it does seem just a bit too fancy.
That’s just hilarious. I would love to see this either animated or in a picture book just for kicks. I also wouldn’t mind if something like that actually happened, though not in the ridiculous way that C.C. suggested.
Strangely, so could I. And it would be hilarious to see as Diethard doesn’t seem like the type who would be fantastic with kids. It would be hilarious if C.C. had actually been serious, but it seems almost as if she did it just to become leader, though having a kid seems to be going a bit far for something like that.
I think I would be shocked to if C.C. suddenly proclaimed that. Jealousy, maybe? Lament over the fact that she will have to listen to C.C. now and get her pizza whenever she wants?
ROFL get pregnant throught a kiss XD! and i cant wait to see C.C in that underwear :rolleyes: it will be an automatic win!:heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 18:16
Why did you quote the entire post?
In any case, I'm surprised anyone would buy that. Lelouch may think it to be possible given what she can so, but then his reaction would be the funniest to watch. "Oh, didn't I tell you Lelouch? If I kiss you it allows me to have a child." I wonder who came up with that comic.
I wonder if a bit of LL would think "I didn't get to do it the old fashioned way..." Who knows maybe C.C. pulled a Piccolo and spat out an egg which became Rollo! :twitch:
Koshimizu
2008-02-13, 21:10
Hmm... I don't think Rollo's stealing it. Unless he's not going back to school again. ;)
Looks like this description is about the ride we saw in the trailer. It might be because they had to go out without getting noticed (by Viletta?) or in a hurry so they didn't tell anyone.
Which led me to wonder if Lelouch planned the OotBK attack.
About how Lelouch go to the casino usually (he's been doing it quite often), possiblities I came up with:
1) Usually Rivalz takes him there. It's just that this time he don't want to get Rivalz involved.
2) Rivalz gave Rollo permission to use his bike. It's just that this time he didn't ask. And from the "poor Rivalz" comment I'm suspecting it's not coming back in good shape. XD
I wonder how Rivalz would give up the chance of having rides with Lelouch though. I mean... the reason why he bought that bike with side car was for Lelouch.
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 21:12
Wow, Rollo has quite the nerve doesn’t he? He looks all nice, but then he goes and steals Rivalz’s newly tuned bike. I can’t imagine Rivalz would be happy with that. I’m actually rather curious as to how the council will feel about Rollo. For some reason the fact that they took the time to mention that Rivalz’s maintenance skills have improved makes me wonder if that will become important later on.
Most probably he needs the bike to please his niisan and 2 brothers are off to chess gambling :heh: I can imagine Rivalz screaming "ROLLO!!!!" when he saw his bike gone!
I'm thinking about Rollo's identity. He could be taken in by Ashford just like Lelouch and Nunnally due to some reason. Hence, he has Lamperouge as his name. Too simplified of my thinking :heh: Soon, he met up with the dull expressionless Lelouch (due to empty 1 year gap) and got along very well with him.
Most probably he needs the bike to please his niisan and 2 brothers are off to chess gambling :heh: I can imagine Rivalz screaming "ROLLO!!!!" when he saw his bike gone!
I had to doubletake thinking "I didn't know Nissan made motorcycles...?" :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 21:56
I wonder if a bit of LL would think "I didn't get to do it the old fashioned way..." Who knows maybe C.C. pulled a Piccolo and spat out an egg which became Rollo! :twitch:
That would be a little too weird in my opinion. Wouldn't want to hear the explanation on that one.
Hmm... I don't think Rollo's stealing it. Unless he's not going back to school again. ;)
Looks like this description is about the ride we saw in the trailer. It might be because they had to go out without getting noticed (by Viletta?) or in a hurry so they didn't tell anyone.
Which led me to wonder if Lelouch planned the OotBK attack.
About how Lelouch go to the casino usually (he's been doing it quite often), possiblities I came up with:
1) Usually Rivalz takes him there. It's just that this time he don't want to get Rivalz involved.
2) Rivalz gave Rollo permission to use his bike. It's just that this time he didn't ask. And from the "poor Rivalz" comment I'm suspecting it's not coming back in good shape. XD
I wonder how Rivalz would give up the chance of having rides with Lelouch though. I mean... the reason why he bought that bike with side car was for Lelouch.
Maybe Rollo just felt like taking the bike for a ride because he enjoys it or something? As for Lelouch planning the attack, I'm not too sure about that one. I think he would have planned it in a way that would not lead to that whole scene where one of them is falling. There is a possibility that he planned to make it look like he had died in the attack so he could become Zero again without anyone suspecting him, but that seems a bit odd for some reason.
The bike will probably get destroyed randomly during the attack which pretty much screws Rivalz even more as now he can't get the girl he likes or have at least a nice bike.
I'm thinking about Rollo's identity. He could be taken in by Ashford just like Lelouch and Nunnally due to some reason. Hence, he has Lamperouge as his name. Too simplified of my thinking :heh: Soon, he met up with the dull expressionless Lelouch (due to empty 1 year gap) and got along very well with him.
I don't think they would bother passing him off as a brother unless Lelouch was convinced of the fact. I suppose Lelouch could be completely aware of what is going on, but I doubt that for some reason.
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 22:03
I don't think they would bother passing him off as a brother unless Lelouch was convinced of the fact. I suppose Lelouch could be completely aware of what is going on, but I doubt that for some reason.
Maybe Rollo's real name is never Lamperouge just like Lelouch and Nunnally. If Ashford took in Rollo, naturally Lulu got to take care of this little brother despite the fact that they are not blood-related. I doubt things are not that simple though :heh:
Maybe Rollo's real name is never Lamperouge just like Lelouch and Nunnally. If Ashford took in Rollo, naturally Lulu got to take care of this little brother despite the fact that they are not blood-related. I doubt things are not that simple though :heh:
yeah, you'd be hard pressed to figure out why exactly Rollo's going around with evil looks (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080211221348tu9.jpg) on his face with that explanation.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 22:11
Well of course his real name isn't Lamperouge. I don't see any real reason for them to take in another random kid. Lelouch and Nunnally were only taken in because of Millay's grandfather and I think it would be somehow too conveniant if he were another favor.
I'm honestly hoping that C.C. didn't have anything to do with Rollo's appearence. I'm more for V.V. or someone else being behind it.
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 22:14
I'm honestly hoping that C.C. didn't have anything to do with Rollo's appearence. I'm more for V.V. or someone else being behind it.
I hope he's not part of Lulu's plan and I seriously doubt so.
yeah, you'd be hard pressed to explain why exactly Rollo's going around with evil looks (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20080211221348tu9.jpg) on his face with that explanation.
Rollo got to be an interesting character. I wonder how he will fit in, considering he is the first to be introduced as a new character.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 22:21
I'm thinking he'll end up being more of a complication than anything, but I'm curious as to how C.C. plans on moving around Lelouch with Rollo present unless she stays just with the OotBK this time.
His mystery and origin are supposed to be important to the plot. I think there was a line about his existance being a problem to the world, but I believe translations on that line varied.
Lugia_Tsuyu
2008-02-13, 22:21
Rollo got to be an interesting character. I wonder how he will fit in, considering he is the first to be introduced as a new character.
In the Official Website Character Page, his name is after Lelouch and even BEFORE Suzaku too. So I think he gets a very big part of the story in this Season 2
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 22:25
I don't think he'll be around till the very end for some reason though. I think Rollo's mystery may be solved by the time we get to the halfway point of season 2. His role is probably important as to what's going on with Lelouch right now. Perhaps he is the problem Lelouch has to overcome so things can move faster.
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 22:28
Innocent Rollo with an evil looks. Something is not quite right.
Innocent Rollo with an evil looks. Something is not quite right.
Maybe the motorcycle is a Decepticon in disguise!:eyespin:
Pink-chan
2008-02-13, 22:34
Maybe the motorcycle is a Decepticon in disguise!:eyespin:
Rollo may even pilot a KMF. His skills may not be as great as Suzaku but at least better than his Lulu niisan. :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 22:47
Yeah, but he may be piloting it against Lelouch. Still he is so much of a mystery that it is hard what to think.
Koshimizu
2008-02-13, 22:51
I had to doubletake thinking "I didn't know Nissan made motorcycles...?" :heh:
Nissan :heh:
Maybe Rollo just felt like taking the bike for a ride because he enjoys it or something? As for Lelouch planning the attack, I'm not too sure about that one. I think he would have planned it in a way that would not lead to that whole scene where one of them is falling. There is a possibility that he planned to make it look like he had died in the attack so he could become Zero again without anyone suspecting him, but that seems a bit odd for some reason.
The bike will probably get destroyed randomly during the attack which pretty much screws Rivalz even more as now he can't get the girl he likes or have at least a nice bike.
I don't think they would bother passing him off as a brother unless Lelouch was convinced of the fact. I suppose Lelouch could be completely aware of what is going on, but I doubt that for some reason.
That look on his face would be like "who's in charge of this action? They're overdoing it!" XD
Aww... that's a tragic way to start a new season for Rivalz. At least Millay is still in school and he's still got a chance.
For Lelouch to be aware of what's going on, there's a possibility he has to play along for Nunnally's safety. That would be even more annoying than amnesia though.
Most probably he needs the bike to please his niisan and 2 brothers are off to chess gambling :heh: I can imagine Rivalz screaming "ROLLO!!!!" when he saw his bike gone!
Somehow I can totally picture Rollo saying "I'm so sorry~ I didn't mean it. Q_Q" with his innocent look and big watery eyes looking up. Like the Puss in Boots in Shrek. :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-13, 22:57
Aww... that's a tragic way to start a new season for Rivalz. At least Millay is still in school and he's still got a chance.
For Lelouch to be aware of what's going on, there's a possibility he has to play along for Nunnally's safety. That would be even more annoying than amnesia though.
Somehow I can totally picture Rollo saying "I'm so sorry~ I didn't mean it. Q_Q" with his innocent look and big watery eyes looking up. Like the Puss in Boots in Shrek. :heh:
Yes, he still has a shot, but he needs to take some action and be more assertive. Maybe he'll save her life or something. Or he'll die saving her life.
I hate that idea as well. I've actually grown comfortable with the amnesia theory as I think Taniguchi may put a twist to it.
Heh, like you want to be angry at him, but when he looks at you it is impossible to stay mad? If he did that and suddenly went all evil like Puss did near the end of Shrek 2 it would actually be both funny and scary.
slightly longer commercial has appeared
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2323771
-Oh good, start the season right off with the Britannian massacre squad doing what they do best
-Looks like it won't be that long till Guren gets its arm back
-Vincent gets deployed
-lol at Lelouch carrying around a chess set. He does like his briefcases
-flashback to C.C. using her power on Suzaku back in episode 11?
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 00:27
Help me, I have no idea how to view this! :(
serenade_beta
2008-02-14, 00:36
slightly longer commercial has appeared
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2323771
-Oh good, start the season right off with the Britannian massacre squad doing what they do best
-Looks like it won't be that long till Guren gets its arm back
-Vincent gets deployed
-lol at Lelouch carrying around a chess set. He does like his briefcases
-flashback to C.C. using her power on Suzaku back in episode 11?
Nothing particularly interesting~
Though the lined-up soldiers shooting "something" was... Lining up people and shooting them? Shooting practice?
Vincent...
Lelouch carries around a chess set :heh:
Help me, I have no idea how to view this! :(
Sign up to watch.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-14, 00:37
slightly longer commercial has appeared
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2323771
-Oh good, start the season right off with the Britannian massacre squad doing what they do best
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Reminds me of a britannian quote,
"Instead of sending Shepards to watch over your flocks you Romans send instead wolves!"
At least after the Boudicca rebellion the Romans learned to play nice with the natives.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 00:40
But I don't understand Japaneses to sign up... :upset:
Can anyone post a different link somewhere more accessible soon? I'm really curious as to what the new scenes look like :)
But I don't understand Japaneses to sign up... :upset:
Can anyone post a different link somewhere more accessible soon? I'm really curious as to what the new scenes look like :)
register page (https://secure.nicovideo.jp/secure/register)
step one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/sawluck/NicoNicoGuidepart1.png)
step two
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/sawluck/NicoNicoGuidepart2.png)step three (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/sawluck/NicoNicoGuidepart3.png)
(thanks to sawluck (http://pinkdomino.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/another-new-domino-memberguide-to-signing-up-to-niconico/) for the MS paint guide)
otherwise wait a day or two, I'm sure it will show up elsewhere eventually.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 00:51
I think I'll wait... have no idea what goes where unfortunately... :( One of these days I'm going to figure out this accursed language, and then no anime shall be safe from my grasp!!!:D
Edit: Nevermind, just went through the paint pages. Good stuff. See if I can't register now...
Marioshinobi
2008-02-14, 01:14
Considering how messed up Season 2 might become with the matrix; I'd guess C.C. may order it to get Lelouch.
Depending if he did forget his identity or not - If shirley forgot it as well. Then kidnapping him would be a good thought. That way they can report him as dead and he can be Zero all he likes. After all he was giving off the school persona only for Nunnally and Rollo doesn't seem like a person worth caring for in my opinion. Unless there's value in stealing Rivalz bike. <<;
slightly longer commercial has appeared
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2323771
-Oh good, start the season right off with the Britannian massacre squad doing what they do best
-Looks like it won't be that long till Guren gets its arm back
-Vincent gets deployed
-lol at Lelouch carrying around a chess set. He does like his briefcases
-flashback to C.C. using her power on Suzaku back in episode 11?
Another non-register link to watch the trailer (http://uguu.es/blog/2008/02/14/nuevo-trailer-de-code-geass-r2-si-otro-mas/)
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 07:18
Rather interesting. Provided that the scenes are all in the year after and not flashbacks to sometime before or during, it looks like Cornelia is back in action with her group. The Guren looks like it got the arm back rather fast and the battle it was in looked like it could be a fairly sized one. Looks like there aren't that many Vincent's as that scene with it gave me the impression that it was some sort of special model. Not sure about the scene with C.C., but I think it is a new scene though I wonder what is going on in that case. And again I am curious as to that last scene with Lelouch binding the contract.
Rather interesting. Provided that the scenes are all in the year after and not flashbacks to sometime before or during, it looks like Cornelia is back in action with her group. The Guren looks like it got the arm back rather fast and the battle it was in looked like it could be a fairly sized one. Looks like there aren't that many Vincent's as that scene with it gave me the impression that it was some sort of special model. Not sure about the scene with C.C., but I think it is a new scene though I wonder what is going on in that case. And again I am curious as to that last scene with Lelouch binding the contract.
Those Cornelia and Guren clips are from S1 episodes 23 and 24. The C.C. one is from episode 11.
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 09:43
But why are they showing us the older fragments? :uhoh:
But why are they showing us the older fragments? :uhoh:
Yes, they make us crazy.........:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated: :frustrated:
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 11:02
That's rather depressing. I want to see Cornelia! I'm more and more worried about her :(
Need. More. New. Scenes.
I think I like the openning theme, though.
Koshimizu
2008-02-14, 11:35
But why are they showing us the older fragments? :uhoh:
My guess is these are flashbacks in Lelouch's mind when he regains his memories.
Aside from KMF operating scenes, Code Geass barely (if ever, since I can't recall any) uses the same set of cels, even for scenes that are really similar. For a exact same scene to reappear, it's in someone's memories.
Oh, and Cornelia's VA already said she won't die.
Area 11 has a new governor. Therefore Cornelia is no longer directly involved. And since the trailer can't show anything beyond the 2nd episode, it's nearly impossible to see her in the trailer.
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 11:50
Oh, and Cornelia's VA already said she won't die.
Area 11 has a new governor. Therefore Cornelia is no longer directly involved. And since the trailer can't show anything beyond the 2nd episode, it's nearly impossible to see her in the trailer.
Well, that's true. But Guilford has already appeared in one of the trailers and he certainly was a part of the delegation, meeting this chinese ambassador or whatever that guy was. Therefore, Cornelia is still in Area 11 as I can't imagine her leave without Guilford. And that makes me feel uneasy. I mean, Cornelia staying in a conquered Area for one year...
Guilford has already appeared in one of the trailers..
Guilford????????Where???????:confused:
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 12:23
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jibpVCNG83E
00:31. There he is with one of the Glaston Knights.
Oh, and Cornelia's VA already said she won't die.
Area 11 has a new governor. Therefore Cornelia is no longer directly involved. And since the trailer can't show anything beyond the 2nd episode, it's nearly impossible to see her in the trailer.
Well, guess that's it for Area 11. (I dunno, unless Suzaku decides to come screw things up for the Order)
Hello United States of Japan. :rolleyes:
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 12:51
You think C.C might have told Lelouch a few stories about her days with good-old George Washington? He seems very inspired from that particular figure in history:p
Also, the new govenor is probably the red-haired guy in the trailer and that's probably why Guilford went all gloomy on us since he can see dear Cornelia anymore. :heh:
You think C.C might have told Lelouch a few stories about her days with good-old George Washington? He seems very inspired from that particular figure in history:p
Also, the new govenor is probably the red-haired guy in the trailer and that's probably why Guilford went all gloomy on us since he can see dear Cornelia anymore. :heh:
Also funny since the staff hinted that there'd be a Ben Franklin in Lelouch's future! :uhoh:
and you mean the guy with the mustache? isn't his hair brown?
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 13:11
Oh well, everyone was just saying how he might have been Kallen's dad so I just assumed it was red.... Ben Franklin...... He sounds like Suzaku no matter how I cut it, going over to Britannia and being far too kind for his own good, then screwing the rebellion over... geez they don't kid when they say history repeats itself, even if it is alternate history :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 13:31
My guess is these are flashbacks in Lelouch's mind when he regains his memories.
Aside from KMF operating scenes, Code Geass barely (if ever, since I can't recall any) uses the same set of cels, even for scenes that are really similar. For a exact same scene to reappear, it's in someone's memories.
Oh, and Cornelia's VA already said she won't die.
Area 11 has a new governor. Therefore Cornelia is no longer directly involved. And since the trailer can't show anything beyond the 2nd episode, it's nearly impossible to see her in the trailer.
So Lelouch may start having memory flashes throughout the first two episodes? Where would that likely occur? Could it possibly happen when he reintates the contract? I'm rather glad they are just flashbacks actually.
The scene with the Guren having its claw back is new, correct?
I wonder what Cornelia has been doing actually. If she was injured enough, I suppose she may still be recovering or be taking some rest.
Also funny since the staff hinted that there'd be a Ben Franklin in Lelouch's future! :uhoh:
and you mean the guy with the mustache? isn't his hair brown?
Wait, C.C. said that part of the reason Ben porbably betrayed Washington was because Ben was likely much too kind for his own good. The only character I've seen that always seemed too kind for his own good was Ougi. It would make me quite angry if Ougi was the one who betrayed them, but it would provide a good twist.
It looked like an odd brownish-red color to me. That guy probably is the new governor.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 13:39
C'mon, Suzaku's a knight for Britannia now.... wait, when was this hint exactly? It's for R2 right?
Come to think of it, Rollo's supposed to be a bit dimure as well, don't you think? :eyebrow:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 13:43
Oh wait, Rollo has been hsown to be a sweet, kind young man from all the other scenes and pictures we have seen of him with the exception of that one picture. I'm not sure they would give it away that fast if Rollo was evil.
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 14:07
By the way, I don't think the S1 scenes from the trailer could be parts of Lelouch's memories. If so, it'd be ridiculous. Those aren't the moments he could have possibly ever seen.
A close-up of Cornelia and co. from ep24 - Lelouch was flying over Tokyo then.
CC from ep11 - that was when she mind raped Suzaku and she stood with her back on Lelouch while doing it.
Not sure about the Guren, but I think it was in Narita when Lelouch wasn't around either.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 14:09
No no, I think the Guren scene was from the beginning of Episode 23 where Kallen blew up the first Sutherland, then Toudou followed and beheaded a Glouster... I think.
Nuiihren
2008-02-14, 14:33
You're right, it's really from ep23. Well, it's still the same here, Lelouch wasn't around when this happened.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 16:07
It doesn't need to be memories that he witnessed I suppose. Perhaps Lelouch gets shown everything that happened as a result of his actions, both things he did not witness and things he did.
It doesn't need to be memories that he witnessed I suppose. Perhaps Lelouch gets shown everything that happened as a result of his actions, both things he did not witness and things he did.
on the other hand Lelouch was floating above the battle in a robot that has a supercomputer designed to track battles.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 16:32
Yes that can work too, but that would only account for memories after he got the Gawain.
Yes that can work too, but that would only account for memories after he got the Gawain.
point is, all of the "flashback" shots in the commercial were events that Lelouch could easily have witnessed, since he was there when they happened.
so even if they don't end up being Lelouch's recollections, nothing so far suggests it couldn't be from Lelouch's point of view (...alright not literally from his point of view, but you get the idea)
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 17:16
Yeah, I get you. I'm curious as to when exactly this would happen. Episode 2 may be more likely unless they have Lelouch get his Geass back (or would it be reawaken?) in episode 1.
That stuff about Lelouch saying he'll eliminate his emotions if they become a hindrance probably won't happen right? What Koshimizu said about Lelouch becoming more likable makes me think that won't happen, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, I get you. I'm curious as to when exactly this would happen. Episode 2 may be more likely unless they have Lelouch get his Geass back (or would it be reawaken?) in episode 1.
That stuff about Lelouch saying he'll eliminate his emotions if they become a hindrance probably won't happen right? What Koshimizu said about Lelouch becoming more likable makes me think that won't happen, but I'm not sure.
as I see it, the cave scene in 25 is the end all be all in terms of Lelouch's inability to ever become a true villian.
Lelouch can't get rid of his emotions or his values, no matter how hard he tries or how badly he screws up. When he had everything stripped away (his army, his friends, his life, even his reason for being) he was the same self-sacrificing kid who is more than willing to put himself in terrible positions for the people he cares about and keeps fighting for his sister happiness no matter how good or bad his situation. And now that he's hit absolute rock bottom and still managed to hold onto himself, there's nowhere to go but up. >:3
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 18:22
True, but that depends on whether or not the forces that be decide to let him, or chain in the darkness of his despair. Note our Good friend Icarus, whose still getting his liver poked out to this day :p
Is season 2 of Code Geass called: Code Geass Suzaku of the Counterattack. If this was already brought to attention, sorry for the late question. I just saw the raw manga out today.
No, it isn´t. Susaku of the counteratack is just an alternate "view" of the series...
Is season 2 of Code Geass called: Code Geass Suzaku of the Counterattack. If this was already brought to attention, sorry for the late question. I just saw the raw manga out today.
No, it's Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2. Code Geass: Suzaku of the Counterattack is a manga taking place in an alternate reality where there are no Knightmare Frames, so Suzaku just dresses up like the Lancelot and fights against Zero.
"Lancelotman" happened to make a cameo appearance in episode 21 (check the lefthand side of the pic):
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9862/goldionlancelotmanetchi4.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goldionlancelotmanetchi4.jpg)
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-14, 19:28
Since we hit a lull, I wanted to bring something up that's had me suspicious for a while now. The rebellion is hitting the international stage, and we've all put forth the Chinese and EU as possible partners for Lelouch in his struggle against Britannia. Yet I think we may have missed an important faction that may or may not have appeared already in the Code Geass universe. That being, the nation of India... or is it? In real world history, Britannia should still possess the Old British Empire's colonies, the most important being the colony of India. Yet we've seen direct involvement both for Britannia and against it, and those of India race (Larkshata and Villeta) are curiosities in the way they are both able to move foward in the Britannia power struggle while all others subjected by the Empire have been treated with callous abuse. So the question is, what exactly is India in the Code Geass universe and what role will it play in the future?
Koshimizu
2008-02-14, 21:36
About India. In DVD Magazine 2, Rakshata said her country is corrupted to the core. So it's still a country, although it might not have an importance as big as China and EU.
That stuff about Lelouch saying he'll eliminate his emotions if they become a hindrance probably won't happen right? What Koshimizu said about Lelouch becoming more likable makes me think that won't happen, but I'm not sure.
C.C.: This is just a contract.
Lelouch: I will eliminate my emotions.
Here we have a lovely tsundere couple. :D
BTW it just occured to me that these scenes could also be slideshows in C.C.'s narrations. *sweatdrop*
Oh wait, Rollo has been hsown to be a sweet, kind young man from all the other scenes and pictures we have seen of him with the exception of that one picture. I'm not sure they would give it away that fast if Rollo was evil.
Another funny thing is, that evil smirk only appeared in DVD Magazine 1. It wasn't shown in any other material, including the official site, trailers #2 to #4, and any of those magazines.
So for people who only watch trailers on TV & magazine information, and didn't buy DVD Magazine or watch Niconico, they wouldn't know about this smile. ;)
lightbringer
2008-02-14, 22:16
C.C.: This is just a contract.
Lelouch: I will eliminate my emotions.
You gotta love it when people are so honest and straightforward with their feelings :D But that's what makes them so endearing, especially Lelouch. If he would actually follow through on that statement it would be pretty boring.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-14, 22:35
About India. In DVD Magazine 2, Rakshata said her country is corrupted to the core. So it's still a country, although it might not have an importance as big as China and EU.
So that makes 3 countries then.
Britannia, China, and India....geeze I don't see how they can't pull this off unless Lelouch goes out and conquers them all.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-14, 22:37
So that makes 3 countries then.
Britannia, China, and India....geeze I don't see how they can't pull this off unless Lelouch goes out and conquers them all.
don't forget the EU which consist of several countries, that have banded together for now.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-14, 22:49
C.C.: This is just a contract.
Lelouch: I will eliminate my emotions.
Here we have a lovely tsundere couple. :D
BTW it just occured to me that these scenes could also be slideshows in C.C.'s narrations. *sweatdrop*
Another funny thing is, that evil smirk only appeared in DVD Magazine 1. It wasn't shown in any other material, including the official site, trailers #2 to #4, and any of those magazines.
So for people who only watch trailers on TV & magazine information, and didn't buy DVD Magazine or watch Niconico, they wouldn't know about this smile. ;)
Well, ashlay pointed out how they are chronic liars about anything having to do with their own feelings. I rather hope the interactions between them continue, both the good and the bad ones. I'd rather hope the bad ones don't last too long, though I think when it becomes clear that C.C. has been talking to Marianne that Lelouch is going to be very angry.
I wonder why they would bother putting those scenes of all things in the preview though.
Good point, but I would think that the picture or at least word of it has appeared all over the internet for anyone who is interested in Code Geass. I remember that I came across a picture of the smile before I saw the trailer itself. Still, there probably are a lot of people who have not seen it.
So that makes 3 countries then.
Britannia, China, and India....geeze I don't see how they can't pull this off unless Lelouch goes out and conquers them all.
I'm sure he could come up with something to avoid having to conquer it all. If Lee became an ally of his as well as the new leader of China, I think something could be worked out there.
The EU I am not so sure about though.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-14, 23:08
If those three are corrupted then the EUU should be as well. I don't see why they should be excluded.
In fact it would fit well into Suzaku's and Lelouch's view of how the world is full of corruption and strife(Episode where Euphie was first introduced) and that they both want to break that chain. So in this case it's not just Britannia which sets the stage for Geass to go global and not just in Japan. Japan was just a test run for Lelouch. Now the world will tremble before his might and no one will be safe.
-KarumA-
2008-02-15, 01:25
So that makes 3 countries then.
Britannia, China, and India....geeze I don't see how they can't pull this off unless Lelouch goes out and conquers them all.
wise man once said: the enemy of my enemy is my friend =3
once the EU and CF get wind of what he is capable of i'ms ure they will consider a coorperation
wise man once said: the enemy of my enemy is my friend =3
once the EU and CF get wind of what he is capable of i'ms ure they will consider a coorperation
only question is if Lelouch will be willing to cooperate with them.
I'm sure Lee and Lelouch will get along well enough, but what about the corrupt bureaucrats and military officials both countries are full of? :rolleyes:
Marioshinobi
2008-02-15, 06:15
They did mention that Lelouch will gain lots of allies, and to not be surprised if he gets betrayed also.
War is nothing but politics either in a way. Depending on how Imposing Brittania truly is on the world, if Zero plans to attack it. Brittania may either pay off the other countries to not help zero in the attack(later backstab them one Zero's gone and take over). Fear plays a lot into this, depending on the leaders of the country they may be sniveling whimpering puppies hiding behind guys with guns.
Blue_Mercy
2008-02-15, 11:55
They did mention that Lelouch will gain lots of allies, and to not be surprised if he gets betrayed also.
War is nothing but politics either in a way. Depending on how Imposing Brittania truly is on the world, if Zero plans to attack it. Brittania may either pay off the other countries to not help zero in the attack(later backstab them one Zero's gone and take over). Fear plays a lot into this, depending on the leaders of the country they may be sniveling whimpering puppies hiding behind guys with guns.
That was one thing that didn't make sense to me in the first season. Zero managed to gain so many recruits, but we never heard anything about spies except for the one time he thought Diethard might be one.
Koshimizu
2008-02-15, 12:09
That was one thing that didn't make sense to me in the first season. Zero managed to gain so many recruits, but we never heard anything about spies except for the one time he thought Diethard might be one.Somthing like that was mentioned somewhere in Ep 15 or 16. Britannia tried to investigate, but Diethard cut the source and they couldn't get deeper into the organization.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-15, 12:23
The was in the beginning of episode 16, where they were discussing the Orders reorganization with a power structure of tier 1-14. Britannia had raided 32 of their bases, but 11 were dummy's. 47 people were arrested, but because the level 8 and higher personal data was classified the lower members wouldn't revel anything under interrogation. Kyoto also prevented any possible public leaks from getting to the authorities as well.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-15, 12:36
They did mention that Lelouch will gain lots of allies, and to not be surprised if he gets betrayed also.
War is nothing but politics either in a way. Depending on how Imposing Brittania truly is on the world, if Zero plans to attack it. Brittania may either pay off the other countries to not help zero in the attack(later backstab them one Zero's gone and take over). Fear plays a lot into this, depending on the leaders of the country they may be sniveling whimpering puppies hiding behind guys with guns.
Remember there are 3 powers in the world. The chinese, europeans, and the britannians.
If one goes down you got yourself a huge vacumn with which to fill. If Lelouch successfully takes down Britannia, then the other powers realize that Lelouch could very well do the same to them. Or even worse, trading one enemy for another one.
So it's no doubt the other powers wouldn't mind taking a shot at britannian but what's stopping them from gobbling up any britannian colonies they get? Or in fact what they do they get in return? They serve their own national interests, not Lelouch's.
Koshimizu
2008-02-15, 12:37
The was in the beginning of episode 16, where they were discussing the Orders reorganization with a power structure of tier 1-14. Britannia had raided 32 of their bases, but 11 were dummy's. 47 people were arrested, but because the level 8 and higher personal data was classified the lower members wouldn't revel anything under interrogation. Kyoto also prevented any possible public leaks from getting to the authorities as well.
Whoa so detailed. Thanks. :) *takes notes*
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-15, 17:56
No problem. It comes naturally after watching this series so many times :p
Any one know the name of the new knightmare frame?
LuckySeven
2008-02-18, 08:39
Which one? If you thought on KMF-s from Knight's of the Round then there are two KMF-s known. First one is Tristan and second one is Mordred. Also there is KMF named Vincent (I don't know who gets this one?). That's all for now about new KMF-s, of course there are still the old ones remaining from season one (Lancelot,...)
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 10:06
The Vincent seems like it is a mass production version of the Lancelot, so it could be that some special group is given them I suppose.
Is Vincent the black and gold KMF?
I was hopping that there would be a KMF named after Excalibur.
Thanks for the information.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 11:16
Yes, the Vincent is the gold one.
I would expect the other KMF's of the Knights to have King Arthur related names. Excalibur sounds like it would either make a better name for some special weapon or perhaps another air ship like Avalon.
I wonder if their would ever be a KMF actually named Arthur. I expect Lelouch to eventually get some new KMF with a King Arthur related name, though I would think he would have to steal it to get it.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 12:54
Well, that's happened before, why not let it happen again? :heh: Still, I hope Gawain makes a comeback, I think were running out of names at this point for all the new and potential Knightmares :( Speaking of which, what was Vincent named after again??
Well, that's happened before, why not let it happen again? :heh: Still, I hope Gawain makes a comeback, I think were running out of names at this point for all the new and potential Knightmares :( Speaking of which, what was Vincent named after again??
Vincent is probably named after St. Vincent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Vincent_and_the_Grenadines), an island in the Caribbean and member of the British Commonwealth .
And given how many regions are in Great Brittan and affiliated states, and how many knights of the round there are (30+ each), I highly doubt they're ever going to get even close to running out of names for Britannian KMFs.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-18, 13:21
Well, that's happened before, why not let it happen again? :heh: Still, I hope Gawain makes a comeback, I think were running out of names at this point for all the new and potential Knightmares :( Speaking of which, what was Vincent named after again??
It's not named after a knight of the Round Table, also they have plenty of names t choose from.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 14:24
I loved the Gawain, but I think it would be a little boring if Lelouch didn't get a newer, better KMF later on. I suppose you could make that argument with Suzaku as well, but he seems as though he doesn't need a more powerful KMF considering the Lancelot can pretty much take on anything.
And yeah, we still have plenty of names to choose from. I'be surprised if a KMF called Galahad didn't show up at some point.
I loved the Gawain, but I think it would be a little boring if Lelouch didn't get a newer, better KMF later on. I suppose you could make that argument with Suzaku as well, but he seems as though he doesn't need a more powerful KMF considering the Lancelot can pretty much take on anything.
And yeah, we still have plenty of names to choose from. I'be surprised if a KMF called Galahad didn't show up at some point.
all that really matters is that C.C. and Lelouch get into a mech together again.
as fun as it is to have the protagonist of a show run around in a mass produced model, two seaters are just way better from a story perspective.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-18, 14:39
all that really matters is that C.C. and Lelouch get into a mech together again.
as fun as it is to have the protagonist of a show run around in a mass produced model, two seaters are just way better from a story perspective.
Plus who knows what else could be going on in the Cockpit:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:
Are you referring to the fact that the Code Geass anime director Taniguchi's last anime showed a very steamy sex scene inside the cockpit of a robot? :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 14:56
all that really matters is that C.C. and Lelouch get into a mech together again.
as fun as it is to have the protagonist of a show run around in a mass produced model, two seaters are just way better from a story perspective.
It also works out in battle because Lelouch can focus on strategizing while C.C. handles the controls, but yeah, it does make sense from a story perspective.
Lelouch really didn't C.C. anything to do until the Gawain came along, did he?
Wait, I had forgotten about that scene in GunXSword. Wasn't that partly manipulation, though it did seem to turn into true caring and love between the two involved? Of course, I fear that such a thing happening here would lead to the death of either one or both of them since things in GunXSword didn't go well for those two in the end (it was never really confirmed what their fate was, but it didn't look like it ended well).
Are you referring to the fact that the Code Geass anime director Taniguchi's last anime showed a very steamy sex scene inside the cockpit of a robot? :heh:
well, we've already had Nina and Table, and Villetta and Ougi. C.C. gave Lelouch some sort of magical kiss in Gawain that apparently has something to do with her flying around naked in the geass stream. >_> Certainly not impossible for some more highly implied sex in a robot in the latest Taniguchi series.
And who knows, maybe Laksharta and Gino can reprise their GunxSword scene. *runs*
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 15:08
I would honestly be surprised if such a thing happened with Lelouch and any of the girls. C.C. doesn't seem like she would be so willing as to let that happen at this point, though she could always do it as some way of manipulation though I don't think she would ever go that far since there are plenty of other methods.
That would have to come completely out of nowhere. I don't know enough about Gino to say if he'll be involved with anyone.
Or Zero can use the armor from the Nightmare of Nunnally manga to kick ass .
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 17:33
That KMF was always a bit odd to me, especially with the gigantic samurai sword it could summon out of nowhere. I don't think we will see anything as advanced as that thing in the anime.
I wouldn't be opposed to Lelouch becoming anything like the Zero from NoN, if only for an extremely short amount of time since Zero being like that in the anime would make things too easy.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 17:48
And boring, I can count all the characters on my hand who actually used their mind in battle, instead of their fist. I got enough of that in DBZ, thank you very much :p
And boring, I can count all the characters on my hand who actually used their mind in battle, instead of their fist. I got enough of that in DBZ, thank you very much :p
True but can’t we have our cake and eat it too:D
Using tactics and also fists to get the job done:p
well, we've already had Nina and Table, and Villetta and Ougi. C.C. gave Lelouch some sort of magical kiss in Gawain that apparently has something to do with her flying around naked in the geass stream. >_> Certainly not impossible for some more highly implied sex in a robot in the latest Taniguchi series.
And who knows, maybe Laksharta and Gino can reprise their GunxSword scene. *runs*
Kinda cramped in those cockpits though.
lightbringer
2008-02-18, 20:31
Somehow I can't imagine any kind of intercourse scene in Code Geass, whether it's with C.C. or Kallen or Shirley or whatever. It doesn't fit well since Zero should be busy with rescuing Nunnally and conquering the world. But I'll be pleasantly surprised if they pull it off - as long as it's in good taste.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 21:23
Yeah, it would feel real out of place given what is going on in the series. None of the characters really seem like they would do that either with the times that are currently going on. If it was done in good taste, it wouldn't be so bad though.
many new characters alongside Suzaku.. interesting
Yeah, it would feel real out of place given what is going on in the series. None of the characters really seem like they would do that either with the times that are currently going on. If it was done in good taste, it wouldn't be so bad though.
you heard the spoilers, 2nd season is when the romance side of the story really starts.
just because you can't see it happening now doesn't mean it won't seem reasonable after 20 episodes of development. :rolleyes:
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 21:34
Well, I'm still praying for a Season 3, even if the wait will most likely cause me to go insane like Nina :p But, so long as they pull all it off decently in the timespan given, I'll be happy either way. Still, I hope they'll be able to fit everything in alright, I wouldn't want too many things to become unimportant side notes. It was one of the reasons why I liked Season 1, because they managed to bring everything together as important parts in the story, even if they didn't elaborate on it much :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 21:46
Another season seems like a bad move to me honestly, nor do I see any reason to stretch things out more. Taniguchi and others seem to have indicated that all the mysteries will be answered in season 2 which would pretty much rap everything up. The writing is really what matters the most and if it is Okouchi who handles a lot of it then I see no reason to worry about pacing.
I'm pretty sure Code Geass was always intended to be around 50 episodes so I don't see that changing much even as popular as it is. I don't think Taniguchi would make another season unless he wanted to and felt it was needed.
BlackOni
2008-02-18, 21:59
I agree i don't see anouther season but perhaps a final movie if he can't quite manage to fit everything. i normaly have trouble with series that contain more than 50-60 episodes as they always lose some of there original flare and design. very few manage to pull it off.
FSNxPhantom
2008-02-18, 22:10
Oh hey guys, I found something interesting and would like to know if it has already been posted.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3230/6acb488f75c8a557f885275yy7.jpg
You know, I like C.C.'s new outfit.
Suzaku looks like he is ready to kill.
And who is the pink haired chick? Cause she reminds me of Darker Than Black
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 22:15
Yeah, or an OVA of some sort would be nice, I just hope they elaborate on a lot of things and don't leave us hanging, which given the many features of the show if what has me worried, hence why I hope they have something to wrap up any loose ends once the season is over... or maybe I just don't want to let go of it being one of my all time favorite anime!! :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 22:16
Yes, a movie might be good if it was really needed, though the wait would probably be horrible. I think that as long as they don't waste too much time with some things everything should be fine. With that in mind, I do worry that the school scenes could waste time.
I'd rather avoid something like that due to the wait though. Since it was said all questions would be answered in season 2, I suppose they have everything worked out.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 22:22
Those are a lot of questions though... I mean I lost track of how many I've had since the end of Season 1, and with the appearance of so many new characters the puzzle is just getting bigger and bigger... still, I'm sure it'll be an awesome ride nonetheless, and I look forward to seeing what path Lelouch takes... also, on a side note it would have been nice to see how far his Zero tulip mask would have bloomed if they did extend it though :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 22:30
Well, I doubt we will see Lelouch take the dark path actually. More like he'll walk through hell in order to achieve his goal and perhaps even gain some happiness. I think we may be able to see how fast things will go within the first two episodes.
I get the feeling that all the really big questions will be answered in the last few episodes one right after another.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-18, 22:34
Well, I'll prepare myself with plenty of jaw-dropping incidents when that happens :heh: Still curious as to how far that Zero mask blooms though :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-18, 22:44
I think that we may have all speculated to the point where it won't completely floor us. There will probably be some part that makes everyone have to watch it again to make sure they saw what they thought they saw.
The truth about C.C. and Marianne may be one of those moments, not to mention the Emperor's plan and the secret about Geass.
lightbringer
2008-02-19, 01:39
you heard the spoilers, 2nd season is when the romance side of the story really starts.
just because you can't see it happening now doesn't mean it won't seem reasonable after 20 episodes of development. :rolleyes:
Well, romance is okay, and we know it's coming, but romance doesn't mean that there will be steamy gratuitous sex scenes in cockpits... Lulu is weak when it comes to practice after all :heh:
Well, romance is okay, and we know it's coming, but romance doesn't mean that there will be steamy gratuitous sex scenes in cockpits... Lulu is weak when it comes to practice after all :heh:
There's no such thing as gratuitous sex in a 5:30 show. Highly implied on the other hand...
my point was just that even if you can't see any of Lelouch's relationships in episode 25 involved enough to become physical, that doesn't mean Lelouch won't fall in love with one of the girls in the future, especially when there's so much development time left. (I'm just going to assume Lelouch isn't the type to get into a fling, you know "love is something you give unconditionally" and all... >_>)
Marioshinobi
2008-02-19, 03:08
Plus Taniguchi's not gonna turn Lelouch into a KiraxFllay thing =.=;
At most for romance I can see Lelouch embracing a person like he did with Shirley or something along the lines of screaming out for the person if they're in danger.
If there was any implication of sex then it'd be the morning with lelouch buttoning himself while the other is covering herself with the sheets or whatever.
Leloich is strangely forward at times, when he first met C.C. he crawled over the bed and looked down at her. Then once more he took off her clothing in the cave when she was wounded. He just seems like the type to blush and take a small glance to see what he's doing then then Suzaku who flipped a naked Kallen and then laid on top of her without any reaction.
At most for romance I can see Lelouch embracing a person like he did with Shirley or something along the lines of screaming out for the person if they're in danger.
If there was any implication of sex then it'd be the morning with lelouch buttoning himself while the other is covering herself with the sheets or whatever.
I keep thinking that the latter scenario would be towards C.C., just, like the moment we actually hear her real name when something is happening to her (quite possibly concerning whatever Geass problems arise).
Odd that we seem to have glimpsed several times of Lelouch and C.C. in near morning after shots. While, of course, nothing's going on, and, really, if they're that comfortable around each other (it's been noted that they both sort of undress around the other, and the other doesn't react in an embarrassed or flustered manner), it kind of puts a slight stunt to things.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 07:27
Plus Taniguchi's not gonna turn Lelouch into a KiraxFllay thing =.=;
At most for romance I can see Lelouch embracing a person like he did with Shirley or something along the lines of screaming out for the person if they're in danger.
If there was any implication of sex then it'd be the morning with lelouch buttoning himself while the other is covering herself with the sheets or whatever.
Leloich is strangely forward at times, when he first met C.C. he crawled over the bed and looked down at her. Then once more he took off her clothing in the cave when she was wounded. He just seems like the type to blush and take a small glance to see what he's doing then then Suzaku who flipped a naked Kallen and then laid on top of her without any reaction.
Please don't allude to that relationship. That was so screwed up. Well, perhaps towards the end not so much, but before that it was very screwed up. I don't want to see something like that in Code Geass nor do I expect it.
Those are pretty much the situations I see happening in season 2. I don't expect anything like sex to happen really and it would seem like a warning side that something bad was going to happen.
Well, I figured it had to do with that he had more important things to worry about than that. His general reactions to being around Kallen and C.C. when they were naked seem to imply that he reall doesn't care, though we didn't see any scenes of Lelouch undressing C.C. He was mainly trying to clean her wounds anyway that such a thing possibly didn't concern him.
I keep thinking that the latter scenario would be towards C.C., just, like the moment we actually hear her real name when something is happening to her (quite possibly concerning whatever Geass problems arise).
Odd that we seem to have glimpsed several times of Lelouch and C.C. in near morning after shots. While, of course, nothing's going on, and, really, if they're that comfortable around each other (it's been noted that they both sort of undress around the other, and the other doesn't react in an embarrassed or flustered manner), it kind of puts a slight stunt to things.
That's the way I would expect, and want, us to find out her actual name. The other options of that being revealed are that we could have Marianne referring to her by her name (I get the feeling she would know it) or perhaps have a villain say it. We could also hear if it was through some flashback of her past.
Both probably consider that sort of relationship unlikely between the two of them. Whether or not that changes I do not know yet, but it could.
-KarumA-
2008-02-19, 17:09
Yeah, or an OVA of some sort would be nice, I just hope they elaborate on a lot of things and don't leave us hanging, which given the many features of the show if what has me worried, hence why I hope they have something to wrap up any loose ends once the season is over... or maybe I just don't want to let go of it being one of my all time favorite anime!! :p
lets first wait for season 2 to even start airing okay XD
it all depends on how the series will end, though im sure it is traggic lol
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 17:45
I hope you're joking about the tragic part. I don't really think it will be too sad anymore, unless Taniguchi decides to take a different approach than usual.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 18:06
Plus Taniguchi's not gonna turn Lelouch into a KiraxFllay thing =.=;
At most for romance I can see Lelouch embracing a person like he did with Shirley or something along the lines of screaming out for the person if they're in danger.
If there was any implication of sex then it'd be the morning with lelouch buttoning himself while the other is covering herself with the sheets or whatever.
Leloich is strangely forward at times, when he first met C.C. he crawled over the bed and looked down at her. Then once more he took off her clothing in the cave when she was wounded. He just seems like the type to blush and take a small glance to see what he's doing then then Suzaku who flipped a naked Kallen and then laid on top of her without any reaction.
Well we never did see the lower half of his body in that scene did we:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:
Also if Lelouch does have sex, then i'm going to take it as a death flag, I mean Tanaguchi wouldn't let Lelouch die a virgin would he:confused:
Also for a show like Code Geass the ending has to be quite tragic, there is no way it can end all too happily, and Code Geass had had plenty of tragidies so far, so I don't see that changing much.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 18:12
I honestly don't think he would have tried anything. He has Euphemia after all and considered Kallen a hostile at that point.
I'll have to agree on this, unless Taniguchi convinces me otherwise.
Taniguchi has never seemed one for tragic endings. Quite a few of his shows went through stages where it was practically impossible to see any sort of happy ending happening, but things turned out all right in the end. I think Taniguchi likes to have his characters go through hell, but eventually overcome in the end and get some happiness.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 18:15
I'm praying he doesn't have Lelouch die period in this season, much less a virgin.... speaking of which, you think C.C managed to go a couple hundred years without getting any? :confused: One wonders if she had anytime for relationships, what with being a nun, then getting killed, then leaving Mao before he matures, then going around dressed in nothing but Lelouch's shirt and not have anything happen :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 18:23
I'll be angry if Taniguchi decides to change his style so I'm just going to hope he doesn't and lets Lelouch live in the end. Killing him seems like it would go against what Taniguchi thinks of him and if he let Suzaku live and Lelouch die I would be surprised.
While I would rather not go into a topic like this, I have no idea honestly. Oh, and I'm not sure if she was the nun we saw. She may have been involved with someone a long, long time ago, but I doubt she has considered getting that close for a long time. Even with Mao, it was more of a parental love than anything.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 18:31
Really, I thought it somebody posted something on the forum confirming it was her in the whole nun outfit :confused: I remember that one because we had a discussion about whether she contracted with that little girl she was holding in that scene... anyway, if she get's involved with George Washington of all people, she probably didn't go into contracts looking for single men :p But, maybe I'm just thinking wishfully cause I don't want Lelouch thinking he's getting together with grandma, if they do... then again that whole swiming in the Geass stream makes me wonder if she'll be "reborn" in some way in Season 2... BTW, anyone have a link where I can read about her and Lelouch's conversation about the American Revolution, can't find it on the soundtracks :confused:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 18:43
If there was such a confirmation, I never saw it. I remember considering it as a possibilty, but it was hard to tell. That nun did have the same mark on her forehead, so maybe C.C. had a stint as a nun. Maybe it ended badly and that was where that scene of her all bloody in a church came from. Wait, she was holding the little girl?
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 18:51
Arrrgghhh, going to go back and check the scenes again!! Darn black and white flashbacks, did her people not hear of color when they first developed their mind-vision system or something!!??
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 18:57
Arrrgghhh, going to go back and check the scenes again!! Darn black and white flashbacks, did her people not hear of color when they first developed their mind-vision system or something!!??
I'm sure Magyk Geass haxx can be programmed.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 19:08
There is no scene with C.C. holding the child that I saw. Not even a scene with her and the girl in the same place.
As for the nun, I don't know. The face doesn't look the same to me.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 19:09
Dang, too bad. Anything relevant to it besides Benny being a kind traitor?
As for the nun, I don't know. The face doesn't look the same to me.
Okay, we'll I kind of thought it was hard to tell since her most defining feature (hair) was covered up, so I thought it was probably her, I mean it was her memory...
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 19:10
Not that I can recall. It wasn't even made clear if she had a contract with either of them, though I would think that Washington would likely be the one she had it it with.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 19:12
Wait Ben Frankilin's a traitor what exactly happened???
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 19:12
Does Washington seem like the type to use a Geass though? I mean, Power of the King/Shaper of the World, seems kind of overarching for a guy who was supposedly reserved about things like that... hence why he didn't rebel against Congress or stay longer as President...
Koshimizu
2008-02-19, 19:30
There is no confirmation that she's the nun.
And the DS game tells otherwise. In Narita, Lelouch was thinking to himself during the shock image:
"The nun... not C.C."
"The girl with geass shouting "how dare you give me power like this!"... is also not C.C."
Wait Ben Frankilin's a traitor what exactly happened???
As Geass tells it, Benjamin Franklin went to France to ask for assistance from Louis XVI, and had he actually done so Louis XVI would have consented to help. However, on the way to France, he met a Duke from the Britannia family, who offered him the title of Earl and property in colonial America. Ben, preferring research over fighting, accepted. Consequently the Continental Army lost the battle in Yorktown and George Washington died there.
Highly oversimplified when compared to actual history (Ben Franklin made frequent trips to Europe and England in the years surrounding the American Revolution, was famous and wealthy enough that getting offered titles and land would have meant little to him, etc.) but just run with it: In Code Geass, Ben Franklin was a traitor. All hail Britannia.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2008-02-19, 20:49
As Geass tells it, Benjamin Franklin went to France to ask for assistance from Louis XVI, and had he actually done so Louis XVI would have consented to help. However, on the way to France, he met a Duke from the Britannia family, who offered him the title of Earl and property in colonial America. Ben, preferring research over fighting, accepted. Consequently the Continental Army lost the battle in Yorktown and George Washington died there.
Highly oversimplified when compared to actual history (Ben Franklin made frequent trips to Europe and England in the years surrounding the American Revolution, was famous and wealthy enough that getting offered titles and land would have meant little to him, etc.) but just run with it: In Code Geass, Ben Franklin was a traitor. All hail Britannia.
There is also the little note that the history was written by Britannians, who would not care too much about accuracy. CC pretty much made the point that she was present during the whole affair, and that things weren't as simple as Lulu's textbooks claimed.
Oversimplification is what all highschool textbooks are guilty of, anyway. They leave the complicated stuff for university students.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 20:52
Does Washington seem like the type to use a Geass though? I mean, Power of the King/Shaper of the World, seems kind of overarching for a guy who was supposedly reserved about things like that... hence why he didn't rebel against Congress or stay longer as President...
I think he might have been the type to accept if it would have allowed him to lead the revolution and free the colonies. He was probably the type who would not have gone too far with his power or gone power hungry. Maybe a little like Lelouch, though there would be some differences. Still, we don't know enough about him in the Code Geass universe to make any real presumptions.
There is no confirmation that she's the nun.
And the DS game tells otherwise. In Narita, Lelouch was thinking to himself during the shock image:
"The nun... not C.C."
"The girl with geass shouting "how dare you give me power like this!"... is also not C.C."
Hmm, well some of the stuff (like the scene with Marianne and the complete World of C conversations) appear as though they could be interpreted as canon. Since these thoughts are associated with images, sort of like the Marianne scene, I think it wouldn't be incorrect to think they could be canon.
Still, one has to wonder who the nun is then. And the little girl seems to follow the trend of everybody hating C.C. in the end. I really hope Lelouch does not go that route.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 20:57
Well, in reaction to that fact he did go with the whole witch to warlock bit that earned him a kiss (I know, translations on that line vary, but I'm sticking with becoming warlock to C.C's witch as that just really flows a lot better for cheesy drama :p) And C.C puts a lot of emphasis on guiding Lelouch unlike Mao where she just babied him instead, hence the whole, can't repeat the same mistakes. So far, Lelouch has a much stronger mentality then anyone I've met so far, so I think he'll pull through in the end, he's the main character for a reason ;)
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 21:04
Well, she couldn't really treat Mao as an adult since he was a child and Lelouch doesn't seem like he would take being babied at any point. It was also stated that C.C. had learned from Mao and would not abandon Lelouch at all even if it became clear he could not fufill her wish, or something like that. I think that repeating the same mistakes bit also applies to her getting to close to Lelouch, since one of the conversations that was shown completely in the game seemed to indicate that (I think that paticular one was sometime during episode 12). And yeah, it would be disappointing if Lelouch didn't pull through and I don't think Taniguchi would do that to him in the end.
I know, translations on that line vary, but I'm sticking with becoming warlock to C.C's witch as that just really flows a lot better for cheesy drama :p
pointless sidebar: I dunno, I always liked thinking of it as "If you're a witch, then I'll become a devil" given the name of the first episode. I mean saying "magic king" does sound stupid, so of course you've got to pick some kind of equivalent.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 21:11
Well, if you go with devil that is one step further than a witch. I know that means something, but I'm not sure how to explain it.
Devil or demon do go with the first episode title though.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 21:12
Funny thing is, Lelouch kind of started out hating C.C even in the beginning, and yet seems to be ending up getting closer to her instead. As I thought, Lelouch defies normalcy and the rules of the universe, be it in Code Geass or our own :D
chrisbad726
2008-02-19, 21:16
Funny thing is, Lelouch kind of started out hating C.C even in the beginning, and yet seems to be ending up getting closer to her instead. As I thought, Lelouch defies normalcy and the rules of the universe, be it in Code Geass or our own :D
don't forget the kiss at the end.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 21:18
Well, I wouldn't say he hated her. He seemed to find her habits and such incredibly annoying. I remember him seeming all kind and nice (though of course he didn't show it outright) during the cave scene, then he gets furious with her over Mao and Shirley, then things are okay after that, then he seems to randomly get angry with her in 25 (though that may have been partly to do with Nunnally being taken), and then he is all nice to her again.
The fluctuations are actually kind of annoying. Then again, I suppose that makes the nice moments all the better. I'm expecting him to be furious with her when her connection to his mother is explained, but hopefully that can get patched up.
And the kiss doesn't seem as though it was intended to be romantic in any way. Judging from her words, I assume it was some way of making sure they would both be okay if things went bad.
Well, if you go with devil that is one step further than a witch. I know that means something, but I'm not sure how to explain it.
Devil or demon do go with the first episode title though.
Well, by that logic it's fine, since "magic king" is one step farther than "magic woman" (though then again there's not really a word for "magic man". 0_o) Besides, the term has a negative connotation: it's not just "magic", it's "evil". (the noun kind)
Funny thing is, Lelouch kind of started out hating C.C even in the beginning, and yet seems to be ending up getting closer to her instead. As I thought, Lelouch defies normalcy and the rules of the universe, be it in Code Geass or our own :D
Despite what he said in 25 (or if you want you can see his line as a sign of this), Lelouch learned over the course of season 1 that C.C. wasn't just some sort of supernatural creature, she was a person with feelings and problems just like him.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 21:24
Well, not just like him, or anyone else at this point. The road of the king is a lonely one according to her... so I wonder how long superficial things like 'emotions' will last as they progress further and further along the path...
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 21:26
Well, by that logic it's fine, since "magic king" is one step farther than "magic woman" (though then again there's not really a word for magic man. 0_o) Besides, the term has a negative connotation: it's not just "magic", it's "evil". (the noun kind)
Well, despite what he said in 25 (or if you want you can see his line as a sign of this), Lelouch learned over the course of season 1 that C.C. wasn't just some sort of supernatural creature, she was a person with feelings and problems just like him.
So he'll become more evil than her? I wonder how C.C. views herself actually. I'm not too sure how Lelouch views himself either, though it doesn't seem like it's in a positive light.
Exactly so, and I think watching her being killed and tortured all those times really affected him. He surely views her as more human than he did in the beginning.
Well, not just like him, or anyone else at this point. The road of the king is a lonely one according to her... so I wonder how long superficial things like 'emotions' will last as they progress further and further along the path...
That is actually a very troubling question that concerns me quite a lot. I don't think Lelouch could ever truly get rid of his emotions and him being all alone in the end seems way too sad. It would suck if everyone else ends up reletively happy, but him. C.C. seems as though she has tried to get rid of her emotions as well, but even she could not do that completely.
Well, not just like him, or anyone else at this point. The road of the king is a lonely one according to her... so I wonder how long superficial things like 'emotions' will last as they progress further and further along the path...
Apparently forever. Lelouch proved an utter failure at removing the "hindrance" of his emotions at the end of R1.
Hopefully Lelouch will learn in season 2 that the key to having a soul able to endure such loneliness is more about refusing to be lonely than anything. Lelouch's greatest strength isn't that he's willing to do what he has to to realize his dream and protect those he cares about. Lelouch's greatest strength is that because his desire is just a simple wish for happiness and because he can't get rid of his own heart, other's are willing to be his allies and fight with him for his dream.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 21:45
Apparently forever. Lelouch proved an utter failure at removing the "hindrance" of his emotions at the end of R1.
Hopefully Lelouch will learn in season 2 that the key to having a soul able to endure such loneliness is more about refusing to be lonely than anything. Lelouch's greatest strength isn't that he's willing to do what he has to to realize his dream and protect those he cares about. Lelouch's greatest strength is that because his desire is just a simple wish for happiness and because he can't get rid of his own heart, other's are willing to be his allies and fight with him for his dream.
Good point at that. His actions in 24-25 pretty much made that whole speech he gave moot.
That seems to be a lesson that C.C. hasn't been able to grasp though I hope she learns it as well. One doesn't deserve to be hated and alone for as long as she has. And that is exactly right about Lelouch. As long as he doesn't lose sight of that, I think he'll be just fine.
I suppose him learning that everything is connected will factor into this as well.
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 22:00
Are you referring to the fact that the Code Geass anime director Taniguchi's last anime showed a very steamy sex scene inside the cockpit of a robot? :heh:
I know this question is kind of late, but what anime are you talking about...
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 22:03
They are talking about GunXSword.
I know this question is kind of late, but what anime are you talking about...
Gun X Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_X_Sword). Gino and Laksharta had sex in the cockpit of Gino's mech. There was moaning, some naked back, etc.
And if you don't want to know what I'm talking about, just don't look up the voice actors for those two. :eyespin:
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 22:16
Gun X Sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_X_Sword). Gino and Laksharta had sex in the cockpit of Gino's mech. There was moaning, some naked back, etc.
And if you don't want to know what I'm talking about, just don't look up the voice actors for those two. :eyespin:
Well atleast now I understand that comment you made a page back about Gino, and Laksharta having sex in a cockpit, it sounded like some random state, but now it makes sense.
chrisbad726
2008-02-19, 22:16
wait what ep. of Gun x sword was this? don't recall that scene ever happening
wait what ep. of Gun x sword was this? don't recall that scene ever happening
episode 20
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 22:22
Ah geez, I'm praying stuff like this doesn't happen in the actual anime! We have a 5:00 slot for the show now people! Keep the blood and psychology to the max and the Nina table dance to a non-existence :heh:
Ah geez, I'm praying stuff like this doesn't happen in the actual anime! We have a 5:00 slot for the show now people! Keep the blood and psychology to the max and the Nina table dance to a non-existence :heh:
The time slot means nothing. (well, it won't be anywhere near as graphic as GxS was if it did happen, but still) Heck, Flay and Kira were in the doroku slot; Rose was in the doroku slot!
Though I'm sure I express everyone's sentiments here when I say we all wish that Nina was wiped from the face of this anime once and for all.
chrisbad726
2008-02-19, 22:31
yes you do, yes you do
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 22:47
The time slot means nothing. (well, it won't be anywhere near as graphic as GxS was if it did happen, but still) Heck, Flay and Kira were in the doroku slot; Rose was in the doroku slot!
Though I'm sure I express everyone's sentiments here when I say we all wish that Nina was wiped from the face of this anime once and for all.
What do you mean by rose was in the doroku slot. Also the doroku slot is 6:00 on what day gain???
Also am I the only onw who hopes that Nina is still alive. I mean I hate her as much as you guys do, but if she's dead, then the amount of time they spent developing her seems like a waste of time, and angers me.
What do you mean by rose was in the doroku slot. Also the doroku slot is 6:00 on what day gain???
Also am I the only onw who hopes that Nina is still alive. I mean I hate her as much as you guys do, but if she's dead, then the amount of time they spent developing her seems like a waste of time, and angers me.
Rose, girl with the black and pink hair. Confrontation with soldiers, ends up being locked up. Next seen released, with a baby, having experienced something so scarring she couldn't speak anymore.
If they can get away with implying that in a primetime slot, they can get away with implying anything. >_>
Oh, and Saturday at 6:00. (the slot that Geass' sunday slot is "replacing") trust me, no magical line is crossed by having a show on at Sunday at 5:00 instead.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 22:58
Pffft, most closest we got was Ougi's flashback of Villeta under the covers. But, I still hope the Nina goes down in a fiery death for one, because if they put her in after not revealing her at all during the trailers I will be very disappointed to say the least, not the slightest because her reason to live is dead... Hope Rollo makes sure not to do the pseudo-male version of the table dance when he comes around :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 23:00
Also am I the only onw who hopes that Nina is still alive. I mean I hate her as much as you guys do, but if she's dead, then the amount of time they spent developing her seems like a waste of time, and angers me.
Well, there has been no sign of Nina at all so far and the city wasn't destroyed so either she never pressed the button or it didn't work. She is likely either dead or possibly the military found her ideas interesting and took custody of her. Then again, what would they really want with a high school girl?
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-19, 23:04
Well, there has been no sign of Nina at all so far and the city wasn't destroyed so either she never pressed the button or it didn't work. She is likely either dead or possibly the military found her ideas interesting and took custody of her. Then again, what would they really want with a high school girl?
Well soldiers need to have fun too, and nina's "spirit" is already broken so.....:eyespin::eyespin::eyespin:
BlackOni
2008-02-19, 23:07
Well soldiers need to have fun too, and nina's "spirit" is already broken so.....:eyespin::eyespin::eyespin:
thats just wrong
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 23:10
And so not what I'm looking for in this season, the only thing I want to hear about Nina is her atoms disintegrating from her nuke experiments, cause those are the weapons the Code Geass universe does not need, as well as this primarily four-eyed racist lesbian as a character :p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-19, 23:15
Nuclear weapons would certainly introduce a very dangerous factor into Code Geass that I think would upset things too much. Maybe if they were introduced very late in the series, but any early than that would seem like a bad idea to me.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-19, 23:26
I'm envious of the Code Geass world when it comes to weapons, they don't have to worry about nukes but have the coolest mech's! NOT Something you can say about the Gundamn world unfortunately as nukes coming in to play really does upset the mech battle mood. Reason why everyone stopped when Nina and th bomb showed up, she just has to spoil the fighting mood with the "one button kills all" scenario:mad:
Well soldiers need to have fun too, and nina's "spirit" is already broken so.....:eyespin::eyespin::eyespin:
Taniguchi's first TV anime debut as a director had this exact scenario.
One of the girls was locked up by maddened mob, and was abused as a sex slave...
You're dealing with a pretty sadistic director here. :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 06:54
Taniguchi's first TV anime debut as a director had this exact scenario.
One of the girls was locked up by maddened mob, and was abused as a sex slave...
You're dealing with a pretty sadistic director here. :heh:
Was this IR? And it would be pretty sick of him to do such a thing with this show, but it wouldn't surprise me if that happened.
Marioshinobi
2008-02-20, 10:11
Why would they use Nukes?
Nina already made an experimental Nuke with Sakuradite XD
I doubt Taniguchi would rip off Gundam SEED either with the nukes powering suits. The man seems to try to be original in his thoughts, even Kallen's suit is a 'Radiation Arm' and not so much a ripoff the Destiny or G Gundam in the way it attacks.
He'll make a Sakuradite Power core!
Was this IR? And it would be pretty sick of him to do such a thing with this show, but it wouldn't surprise me if that happened.
Yes, Infinite Ryvius.
I doubt Taniguchi would rip off Gundam SEED either with the nukes powering suits. The man seems to try to be original in his thoughts, even Kallen's suit is a 'Radiation Arm' and not so much a ripoff the Destiny or G Gundam in the way it attacks.
Nuclear warhead equipped mech is NOT original to Gundam SEED.
Hell, even in the same Gundam series, there already was a Gundam with a nuke more than 10 years before SEED ever aired. GP02 anyone?
And if you mean nuclear engine powered, first of all, Mobile Suits were nuclear fusion powered since the first series in 1979.
As for mechs with nuclear fission reactor? Giant Robo anyone?
Please don't use the words "original" and "Seed" in the same breath. :heh:
BlackOni
2008-02-20, 12:32
Yes, Infinite Ryvius.
Nuclear warhead equipped mech is NOT original to Gundam SEED.
Hell, even in the same Gundam series, there already was a Gundam with a nuke more than 10 years before SEED ever aired. GP02 anyone?
And if you mean nuclear engine powered, first of all, Mobile Suits were nuclear fusion powered since the first series in 1979.
As for mechs with nuclear fission reactor? Giant Robo anyone?
Please don't use the words "original" and "Seed" in the same breath. :heh:
thats true nothing about gundam seed was original, they just riped off story lines, designs, and weapon from previus gundam series and other robot anime.
adn yes i would also hate to see nukes in code geass. though loid will probably rescue nina and use her research in new mechs. (though i'd rather she died)
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 14:37
I'd think Lloyd would recognize that she has severe psychological problems at the moment. With enough therapy she could possibly be okay, but it would take longer than I think the plot would allow unless she did a turnaround in during the year. I wonder how long that would last once Zero reappears.
I don't really know if Britannia would want to use nukes if they had the option unless it was some sort of last resort. They seem more in the habit of taking over and surpressing than destroying outright.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-20, 18:34
That is why I prefer the CG universe over our own, sure most of the world may be under tyrannical global hegemony, but besides internal resistance most of the world is at peace thanks to Britannia's dominance without fear of the mutual annihilation scenario. And we duke it out with magic alchemy, super mech's, and mysterious psychic powers to boot!! :D
That is why I prefer the CG universe over our own, sure most of the world may be under tyrannical global hegemony, but besides internal resistance most of the world is at peace thanks to Britannia's dominance without fear of the mutual annihilation scenario. And we duke it out with magic alchemy, super mech's, and mysterious psychic powers to boot!! :D
It's cool except for you know, occasional random genocide like the one Clovis did in Shinjuku Ghetto.
But then again, it's not like our world is devoid of genocides. :rolleyes:
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
serenade_beta
2008-02-20, 19:59
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
And Tamaki in a cell, and an under view of Kallen's bunny jump.
Time to wait for a video to pop up...
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-20, 20:01
That is why I prefer the CG universe over our own, sure most of the world may be under tyrannical global hegemony, but besides internal resistance most of the world is at peace thanks to Britannia's dominance without fear of the mutual annihilation scenario. And we duke it out with magic alchemy, super mech's, and mysterious psychic powers to boot!! :D
I dunno the Chinese and Europeans seem to be engaged in major skirmishes against the Britannian Empire.
It's like the Roman Empire which shared a border with the Perians. Peace wasn't always easily kept.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Rollo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
Fixed. Anyway, FLY, LULU, FLY!!!! O_o YOU KNOW YOU CAN!!!!
Pink-chan
2008-02-20, 20:56
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
Was it only me who feels tt Rollo looks good in serious expression? :p
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-20, 21:21
Still waiting on whose side he's actually on though :p
digi.amuro
2008-02-20, 21:50
Sweet. Some new scenes.
Its funny, when I saw the pics of Kallen jumping, it reminded me of Trowa Barton tho his jump/flips were way sicker.:heh:
I guess we have confirmation now that it was Lelouch who fell (tho that seemed obvious enough)
Milly/Shirley frame: Possible gropefest or headlock? lol!
I'm curious about who Rollo (Lolo?!:twitch:) is on the phone with? Friends from school? the police? possible con-conspirators?
BlackOni
2008-02-20, 21:58
Was it only me who feels tt Rollo looks good in serious expression? :p
yeah he looked just like lelouch when thing aren't going his way. i wonder who catches lelouch after the fall (probably kallen)
chrisbad726
2008-02-20, 22:10
yeah he looked just like lelouch when thing aren't going his way. i wonder who catches lelouch after the fall (probably kallen)
or better yet C.C. comes out of no where and saves him.:D
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 22:16
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
Interesting. Everyone in jail looks like crap, but that is to be expected. Never seen Ougi have such a look of despair on his face though so that was sort of odd to see.
Looks like Kallen is piloting the Guren while in the bunny suit. It also seems like she is in the area where Lelouch was when the Order attacked. Looks like they are definately there to pick him up.
What's with the scene to the left of the one with Lelouch falling?
Judging from the sky, Rollo might be in the same place as the Lancelot. I wonder what the call is about though. Maybe it's Lelouch saying he is alright? In any case, given the reactions he is presenting he wasn't working with the Order so him being sent by C.C. or something doesn't seem too likely.
And so with every new screen and piece of info, I begin to think that anything I may have thought was way, way off. I hope they don't screw me over on my hopes in terms of romance too.
Pink-chan
2008-02-20, 22:44
Still waiting on whose side he's actually on though :p
Makes me wonder if Rollo's the mastermind of the attack :heh:. It's still too early to say.
or better yet C.C. comes out of no where and saves him.:D
That's what came to my mind initially. Can't wait for April to come.
Any link to the video?
Blue_Mercy
2008-02-20, 22:49
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
Well, Lelouch luck isn't improving much is it? :heh:
Kallen piloting the Guren in her bunny costume? Whoever thought that up is a genius. Looks like Chiba is doing some talking, could be bitching about Zero?
Also, it looks like the Chinese Federation planned to ambush a Britannia base(possibly the prison base) at a fake peace meeting since we saw Lee slicing up a Britannia soldier in a previous trailer in an area similar to the one in the picture.
So, for my guess to the 1st episode.
I'm guessing it to be a complete reassembly of the OotBK. Black knights picking up Lelouch while Chinese federation bust out old members. A small scene at school with Viletta, Shirley, Milly, probably others too.
If Lelouch really plans to challenge a country with 1/3 of the world conquered, and he doesn't even control Japan this is probably a good idea.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 22:51
Judging from his reactions that we have seen through the varying commercials, I don't think he was expecting that too happen at all. I don't think he had anything to do with the attack.
I'm rather curious as to how Lelouch will react to all this. From the looks of things, they seem to be approaching him without any intent of harm and in one scene he had a look of suspicion which I would think had to be a reaction to the Burai stretching out its hand.
Pink-chan
2008-02-20, 22:51
I'm curious about who Rollo (Lolo?!:twitch:) is on the phone with? Friends from school? the police? possible con-conspirators?
Calling Suzaku (hang up/not around to answer his call) to nag at him to save his oniisama. :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 22:55
Well, Lelouch luck isn't improving much is it? :heh:
Kallen piloting the Guren in her bunny costume? Whoever thought that up is a genius. Looks like Chiba is doing some talking, could be bitching about Zero?
Also, it looks like the Chinese Federation planned to ambush a Britannia base(possibly the prison base) at a fake peace meeting since we saw Lee slicing up a Britannia soldier in a previous trailer in an area similar to the one in the picture.
So, for my guess to the 1st episode.
I'm guessing it to be a complete reassembly of the OotBK. Black knights picking up Lelouch while Chinese federation bust out old members. A small scene at school with Viletta, Shirley, Milly, probably others too.
If Lelouch really plans to challenge a country with 1/3 of the world conquered, and he doesn't even control Japan this is probably a good idea.
Actually, that is a very good prediction and it makes perfect sense to me. Maybe C.C. and what remained of the Order made some negotiations with Lee. Still, I'm not sure if that enuch (sp?) guy would really be on it, but I could be worng.
Regarding Rollo again, I am sure he didn't know what was going on or at least was not in on it. And he could have recieved a call with Lelouch seeming to be someone likely as it would fit with his reactions.
chrisbad726
2008-02-20, 23:13
ever wonder if this will be a one hour Episode special?
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 23:16
I don't think it will be any longer than a usual episode.
Actually, that is a very good prediction and it makes perfect sense to me. Maybe C.C. and what remained of the Order made some negotiations with Lee. Still, I'm not sure if that enuch (sp?) guy would really be on it, but I could be worng.
Regarding Rollo again, I am sure he didn't know what was going on or at least was not in on it. And he could have recieved a call with Lelouch seeming to be someone likely as it would fit with his reactions.
Don't count on it. From a story perspective, Lee has to be made a worthy of opponent. (probably of Britannia, maybe of Lelouch) Which means there'll be at very least one Lee vs. Lelouch episode.
A more standard story development would be that Lee is there on a mission from the Chinese Federation (steal the Vincent? Kill some people? bake a pizza with Milly, Shirley and Rivalz?), and that his own antics just happen to coincide with whatever the Order is up to. Alternatively: he never actually cut anyone, he was just showing how well he can handle a sword. >_> (you'll notice in the first PV that two shots after that vertical slash move they have governor 11 looking surprised at ambassador enuch, at which point ambassador eunuch kinda goes into a "hehehe" pose)
Oh, and did anyone else notice that the image with the gun in it has the same purple coloring as the scene with Suzaku looking all around devoid of emotion from the earlier trailers? Think Suzaku's telling his subordinates to shoot some people? Like maybe other subordinates? :uhoh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-20, 23:24
Yeah, there does have to be some sort of conflict between them at some point. Maybe the respect will come after that. I'd like a friendly rivalry.
With the showing off his sword option, maybe the Britannians taunt the Chinese and he decided to teach them a lesson.
And you are right about the coloring. Maybe the attack by the Order was somehow expected?
Jeffry2009
2008-02-20, 23:35
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SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-20, 23:50
Yeah, there does have to be some sort of conflict between them at some point. Maybe the respect will come after that. I'd like a friendly rivalry.
With the showing off his sword option, maybe the Britannians taunt the Chinese and he decided to teach them a lesson.
And you are right about the coloring. Maybe the attack by the Order was somehow expected?
Obviously the standard one. No bodyguard is going to just slice and dice some soldiers up out in the open and leave his master out to dry.
Britannians mock the Chinese and their martial arts so Lee teaches them a lesson.:p
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-21, 00:04
From the info on him, he doesn't seem like he would like his master, but you are right about him not leaving him out like that. He would also be outnumbered I suppose as well. I wonder if he'll run into Suzaku.
I think it would be a good introduction for Lee if he taught them not to mock the Chinese.
Marioshinobi
2008-02-21, 00:06
First reaction like many of you: Never seen Kallen's crotch come at me so fast till now.
Second; Seems Lelouch is in deep sh*t cause Rollo has weak girly arms and can't hold onto his brothers hand to save his life.
I'm wondering if Lelouch and Rollo ran after the Knights attacked the mall, then stuff happened and Lelouch fell- Maybe last scene of the first ep?
I'd laugh if it was Rivalz complaining to Rollo about his bike on the cell x3
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-21, 00:11
Meh, Kallen never really did much for me. I sometimes find fanservice annoying actually. Not all the time, but sometimes it can get excessive.
I think they were both in some upper portion of that area and it started collapsing so Lelouch fell. Some other scenes seem to suggest he may have gotten caught. I'm still wondering how that C.C. flying scene is going to factor in. Maybe Lelouch has been having weird dreams?
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-21, 00:26
Or maybe she pops in his head to reawaken his Geass through the 'bond' that they share, perhaps? I don't think she's literally in the Geass stream, more like using it to establish a connection with someone (Lelouch is my bet) And then Lelouch goes back into the Gear mode and reactivates his Geass?
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-02-21, 00:45
From the info on him, he doesn't seem like he would like his master, but you are right about him not leaving him out like that. He would also be outnumbered I suppose as well. I wonder if he'll run into Suzaku.
I think it would be a good introduction for Lee if he taught them not to mock the Chinese.
Doesn't matter if he likes his master or not. He's a soldier, he follows orders and that's to protect his master. Not run off like some immature child.
Pink-chan
2008-02-21, 00:54
Judging from what the school council is doing and the locket. That day should be either Lelouch or Rollo's birthday and they are trying to do something to give him a surprise.
ghodassama
2008-02-21, 00:57
when starts?
-KarumA-
2008-02-21, 01:05
yeah he looked just like lelouch when thing aren't going his way. i wonder who catches lelouch after the fall (probably kallen)
maybe even Suzaku who knows XD
or he just cant die that is another option lol
Marioshinobi
2008-02-21, 04:04
when starts?
When you read the bottom of my Signature and April 5-6th, whichever day. Doesn't matter because subbers will take the same amount of time to wait for a decent quality video to come out - take a decent amount of whipping their translators - then once it's done give it a quality check which allows them to watch the episode first and then give pretty font and styles just to make themselves more prettier above other subbings groups.
Unless of course you like Raw which would make me praise you for knowing the language but I doubt it since you; A. Asked when its airing when the TV stations have most likely advertised this along with other forums and B. You spoke english which makes me believe you're somewhere within the Vicinity of the West.
-KarumA-
2008-02-21, 06:04
lets not have such a discussion, specially here..
its not like he's the only one to post such things on other boards without crediting...
if you want to prevent such a thing then post it on your own website and put copyright on it >.<
its pointless to discuss something, specially in a topic like this where such a discussion isnt appropiate..
as for the rest, i'm kind of hoping for Suzaku to rescue him.. or it has to do with how he survived the 'gunshot'
though i wonder what he will fall from... the elevators must be dead by a power outage...
its
poor Rollo looks so serious ont he phone as well.. maybe's he's talkign with the kidnappers lol XD that person could either be C.C. or maybe people that want to exchange him for the imprisoned Black Knights etc. poor Rollo =3
Marioshinobi
2008-02-21, 06:15
Everybody is starting to like Rollo more nowadays xD
Whatever happened to the mass hate fandom he had in the beginning? It suddenly turned to love?
Did you all Forget Nunnally D:
With the evil smirk he has in the commercial...I don't really feel bad for Rollo, he just seems to hide something with his random appearance and such. IT's too much of an enigma to think about.
(( and yes, I'm just gonna ignore you from now on since this is gonna plainly last forever since you can't press the PM button ))
-KarumA-
2008-02-21, 06:26
Everybody is starting to like Rollo more nowadays xD
Whatever happened to the mass hate fandom he had in the beginning? It suddenly turned to love?
Did you all Forget Nunnally D:
With the evil smirk he has in the commercial...I don't really feel bad for Rollo, he just seems to hide something with his random appearance and such. IT's too much of an enigma to think about.
(( and yes, I'm just gonna ignore you from now on since this is gonna plainly last forever since you can't press the PM button ))
i still dont like him, damn himf or taking Suzaku's place...
Suzaku will butt kick him away from Lulu.. or so i hope XD
but i like his expressions because he always looks so sensitive and int he first trailer he looked so evil... so im kind of interested in what it will turn out to...
poor cute little Rollo will probably go psycho and become the mastermind behind everything.. sitting on his throne with poor Lulu chained to.. ooh wait.. lets not go any further... lol
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-21, 07:14
I think there could be some possibility that Lelouch is the one calling him, maybe just to reassure Rollo that he is fine. It would fit with the reactions Rollo is giving because he could be both surprised by such a call and still worried.
I'm wondering when Rollo is going to drop the act and show us the evil smile. It'll probably be at some random point in an episode or something. After he drops the act we should hopefully be able to figure out who or what he is.
Apparently it is possible to figure out who he is if you pay attention in the PSP game, so I am hoping someone gets their hands on it and posts whatever info there is on Rollo.
I rather hope that whatever ending we get won't be too ambiguous as s-CRY-ed and GunXSword seemed to be. That would annoy me to no end if they left the fates of some characters up in the air or had some forever seperated from their loved ones for whatever reason. I suppose it is too early to guess anything just yet though.
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
Link:upset:!!! I want to watch the trailer....please:(:(:(
-KarumA-
2008-02-21, 10:56
I rather hope that whatever ending we get won't be too ambiguous as s-CRY-ed and GunXSword seemed to be. That would annoy me to no end if they left the fates of some characters up in the air or had some forever seperated from their loved ones for whatever reason. I suppose it is too early to guess anything just yet though.
i hope for the same...
lets pray they give us atleased some sort of clossure in the end...
and not have the war still going and have it end like with him facing a huge battle with us staying behind witht he credits T-T
it deserves a good ending but i am certain that i wil cry in the end of it all.. the idea of no more geass is just painfull atm XD
guess after that i'll pick myself together again and wait for another great series like it nyuuuh =( though i dont want ot think about it atm..
im sure that IF Lelouch dies i'll get another Kamina depressionf or about a month.. though im certain i'll be able to finish the series if Lelouch dies.. but.. Lulu you can't die! :eyespin:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-21, 13:44
i hope for the same...
lets pray they give us atleased some sort of clossure in the end...
and not have the war still going and have it end like with him facing a huge battle with us staying behind witht he credits T-T
it deserves a good ending but i am certain that i wil cry in the end of it all.. the idea of no more geass is just painfull atm XD
guess after that i'll pick myself together again and wait for another great series like it nyuuuh =( though i dont want ot think about it atm..
im sure that IF Lelouch dies i'll get another Kamina depressionf or about a month.. though im certain i'll be able to finish the series if Lelouch dies.. but.. Lulu you can't die! :eyespin:
Well, I don't think they would leave us too much in the dark in the end. The incoming battle or having some characters fighting eternally doesn't seem like it would make a good ending, especially since this whole season is supposed to be filled with battles.
I don't want too sad of an ending either. I supposed they could always make us think that Lelouch had died, but have him show up at the end or something along those lines.
Kamina never affected me for a very long time, though the ending of that show was an entirely different matter that had me feeling quite depressed. Judging from what Taniguchi has apparently said about his feelings concerning Lelouch and how it wouldn't exactly be good for the theme I think, I'm not entirely sure if Lelouch will actually die.
If he does live and Nunnally does too, I rather hope she is less dependent on him than before. I'm beginning to think more and more that Nunnally's dependence on her brother is going to be manipulated in a bad way, though I hope it doesn't end in anyone's death. If they don't become less dependent on each, than I doubt any romantic relationship would work out for Lelouch and I am rather hoping that ends happily since I hate seeing romance for the main character end badly.
Lugia_Tsuyu
2008-02-21, 16:43
I don't understand why there are only few scenes of C.C. All those old ones had her for only 1-2 seconds, and this one doesn't have her at all!!!
Oh Rollo, you finally show some serious side of yours.
I don't understand why there are only few scenes of C.C. All those old ones had her for only 1-2 seconds, and this one doesn't have her at all!!!
Oh Rollo, you finally show some serious side of yours.
Clearly means that C.C. is integral to the first major plot twist. Or they just don't feel like showing her yet. :rolleyes:
Besides, C.C. isn't the only one with low screentime: Toudou, Diethard, Larksharta, the Emperor, Marianne and Villetta have only gotten a single piece of animation or a mere still photo so far. And what about Cornelia, Schniezel, Kaguya, Jeremiah, Asahina, Llyod, Cecile, Gino, Anya, V.V., and especially Nunnally? They don't even have a bloody frame in any of the R2 trailers and commercials.
Anyway, Rollo's serious expression kinda gives me hope for the kid turning out to be alright: If he looks like Lelouch when worried or plotting, that means there's at very least something trustworthy about his character.
New TV ad shows some new scenes.
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Chiba and Ougi in cells...
And Lolo finally showing some serious faces instead of the usual whimpy ones.
nothing new kallen being turned into a sex object, annoying GOD!suzaku, i'm starting to careless about millay, and the center of lee's character is that he's a bishie.
I KNEW DROPPING CODE GEASS WAS A GOOD IDEA!
so long!
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-21, 19:46
nothing new kallen being turned into a sex object, annoying GOD!suzaku, i'm starting to careless about millay, and the center of lee's character is that he's a bishie.
I KNEW DROPPING CODE GEASS WAS A GOOD IDEA!
so long!
OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How could you drop Code Geass you traitor!!!!!!!:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:
serenade_beta
2008-02-21, 19:54
nothing new kallen being turned into a sex object, annoying GOD!suzaku, i'm starting to careless about millay, and the center of lee's character is that he's a bishie.
I KNEW DROPPING CODE GEASS WAS A GOOD IDEA!
so long!
...?
Lee hasn't had an appearance. No proof that he's just there as a "bishie".
For the rest... sure... whatever.
OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How could you drop Code Geass you traitor!!!!!!!:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:
Mah~, mah~, there are people that don't tend to like Code Geass. Even if their reason makes no sense...
Blue_Mercy
2008-02-21, 20:19
Clearly means that C.C. is integral to the first major plot twist. Or they just don't feel like showing her yet. :rolleyes:
Besides, C.C. isn't the only one with low screentime: Toudou, Diethard, Larksharta, the Emperor, Marianne and Villetta have only gotten a single piece of animation or a mere still photo so far. And what about Cornelia, Schniezel, Kaguya, Jeremiah, Asahina, Llyod, Cecile, Gino, Anya, V.V., and especially Nunnally? They don't even have a bloody frame in any of the R2 trailers and commercials.
Anyway, Rollo's serious expression kinda gives me hope for the kid turning out to be alright: If he looks like Lelouch when worried or plotting, that means there's at very least something trustworthy about his character.
I have no doubt Jeremiah is dead.
It's my guess that all the trailer clips came from the 1st episode of season 2. My opinion about Rollo is still up in the air. Depending on what Rollo is is capable of doing, and how he will affect the second season. Honestly, I have no idea the staff is planning to do with Rollo's character. He doesn't seem like someone who has Suzaku's athletic skills, Lelouch already has great intelligence and a geass ability.
Pink-chan
2008-02-21, 21:09
I sure hope, they do not end the season in ep.23 then keep us in suspense for another few months this time.
I have no doubt Jeremiah is dead.
Taniguchi said that Jeremiah's whereabouts are a secret again. He's not dead. :eyespin:
DeotoxSlayer
2008-02-21, 22:14
Taniguchi said that Jeremiah's whereabouts are a secret again. He's not dead. :eyespin:
Are you sure...I mean he wasn't even supposed to live after the incident at Narita.
Blue_Mercy
2008-02-21, 22:16
Taniguchi said that Jeremiah's whereabouts are a secret again. He's not dead. :eyespin:
I can understand C.C. coming back, but no way Jeremiah comes back otherwise it's GSD all over again. We have enough second season characters leave him dead.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-21, 22:21
Clearly means that C.C. is integral to the first major plot twist. Or they just don't feel like showing her yet. :rolleyes:
Besides, C.C. isn't the only one with low screentime: Toudou, Diethard, Larksharta, the Emperor, Marianne and Villetta have only gotten a single piece of animation or a mere still photo so far. And what about Cornelia, Schniezel, Kaguya, Jeremiah, Asahina, Llyod, Cecile, Gino, Anya, V.V., and especially Nunnally? They don't even have a bloody frame in any of the R2 trailers and commercials.
Anyway, Rollo's serious expression kinda gives me hope for the kid turning out to be alright: If he looks like Lelouch when worried or plotting, that means there's at very least something trustworthy about his character.
Well, they probably want to keep us guessing on how she got out of the bottom of the sea.
The lack of Nunnally appearences is for the obvious reason of making sure we don't know where she is yet. Since the trailers only show scenes from the first two episodes, I wouldn't expect most of those people to make any sort of appearence. V.V.'s wherabouts are something I am probably the most curious about next to Nunnally's.
nothing new kallen being turned into a sex object, annoying GOD!suzaku, i'm starting to careless about millay, and the center of lee's character is that he's a bishie.
I KNEW DROPPING CODE GEASS WAS A GOOD IDEA!
so long!
What the...?! That was sort of random.
I have no doubt Jeremiah is dead.
It's my guess that all the trailer clips came from the 1st episode of season 2. My opinion about Rollo is still up in the air. Depending on what Rollo is is capable of doing, and how he will affect the second season. Honestly, I have no idea the staff is planning to do with Rollo's character. He doesn't seem like someone who has Suzaku's athletic skills, Lelouch already has great intelligence and a geass ability.
If he was dead, I'd think they would just say so. The fact that any info on him is a secret leads me to think that he'll be involved in some way, though I suppose he doesn't have to be alive.
Wasn't there a statement of some sort that Rollo's existance was a danger to the world? I'm really just waiting for the first moment he shows off the evil grin.
I sure hope, they do not end the season in ep.23 then keep us in suspense for another few months this time.
Well, that was due to time constraints and many other factors such as how many animators were sent to work on Gundam 00.
I could forsee them doing another special, but I'm not sure if they'll make it as long a wait as before.
Apparently, Taniguchi made comments on the selection of Lelouch, Suzaku, and C.C.'s english VA's. The conditions for Lelouch and Suzaku were the same as their Japanese VA's.
Something I found interesting, was how Taniguchi mentioned that it was important that the impression be given that C.C. was not older than Lelouch in age and how her limited range of emotions she lets show was a critical factor to her personality. Does that mean that we aren't going to see much more then the occasional time where we see her be a bit more vulnerable? Or is it probably related to how she bottles up her emotions for various reasons such as not being hurt?
Alleluia_Cone
2008-02-22, 00:40
I am sort of being random here, and I am sure those on this forum have discussed this topic in detail already, but I still find it puzzling that Villetta would become a gym teacher within the Ashford Academy as I have heard speculated before; and certainly the outfit she is shown in during the previews at least lends some credibility to this theory.
Of issue to me, is her reasoning behind such a much, in particular, how does this correlate to her stated aims during the first season; that is, being granted a noble title. I would think it would be most important for her to reveal the identity of Zero, although, even that seems meaningless now with there already being people who can provide this information to the Empire (i.e. Cornelia, Suzaku).
And this links as well to the character of Jeremiah, whose purpose at this point I cannot fathom any better than that of Villeta. At best one could make the case that he is fighting to claim revenge for the humiliation he has suffered at the hands of Zero, which I suppose could apply to Villetta, although, given the introduction of so many new characters, can they afford to pursue this side story within the greater arc of the series?
I have been wondering myself if some of the characters from the first season will slowly disappear as the series progresses given time constraints, and even though there have been no indications in particular which would lead one to believe that, it seems implausible that they could continue placing so much focus on characters like Villetta, Jeremiah, and even Cornelia. Not to say that I am proponent of a move to cut these characters out, and in fact, I think it would be interesting to continue to include Villetta as a figure within the story, but only in the way that she grapples with the reality that she enjoyed being on the ‘enemy’ side while she suffered from amnesia.
What do people think of this expansion of the cast, in relation to the already swelled existing cast of the show? Is it possible to rotate through so many characters during an episode and maintain the quality of the first season?
I feel that Villetta has more or less moved to the "everyman" character in this story: Somone who starts out as a cannon fodder enemy, and yet then begins to move through the various stages: the army, the japanese, ashford, etc. I have the feeling that Villetta will continue to move to new settings as this series progresses, continuing to be an ever growing witness to the events caused by Lelouch.
As for why she's at Ashford now? Well, from Britannia's perspective, Villetta's a deserter. She can't very well go near them without some kind of prize in hand, namely Lelouch. But of course without any evidence, who's going to believe that some high school student is the guy who killed 2 imperial family members and nearly conquered one of the Areas? Especially when you're being told this by a deserter? Sadly for Villetta, Lelouch clearly doesn't seem to have been continuing his activities as Zero, meaning there's no more evidence against him, and with the support the Ashfords give him (namely the support Milly gives him), it's hard for her to get too close to him. In other words: Villetta's master plan of catching Lelouch red handed completely backfired due to whatever the heck made Lelouch stop being Zero, and Lelouch has enough support mechanisms at Ashford that she can't kidnap and beat the information out of him without getting caught and thrown in jail by the military. Anyway, should be interesting to see how she gets along with the girl that shot her and thus is the real cause of her sleeping with an Eleven. :eyespin:
And Orange makes for an amusing plot device to us fans of his. I mean better it be him than a some random guy without a name, right? However there's still a character left to salvage out of him, so depending on what Okouchi and Taniguchi decide, he could fulfill a role similar to Tamaki or such given the chance.
As for the new cast members: they're pretty much all antagonists (the Rounds), or at least are allies from different organizations like Kaguya (Lee). Honestly, some of these guys could easily end up villian of the month, and be culled exceptionally quickly. As for Rollo, I very much doubt he'll survive long in his current incarnation: If there's a mystery behind him, that means he's someone or something we already know about, and in due time will revert to that form.
Alleluia_Cone
2008-02-22, 01:30
The thing is, don't Villetta and Lelouch know each other? How is this teacher-student relationship even work, if that is indeed the case with the above being true. Is it almost assumed by everyone that Lelouch at this point has amnesia himself, which would allow the relationship between the two to at least be plausible?
The thing is, don't Villetta and Lelouch know each other? How is this teacher-student relationship even work, if that is indeed the case with the above being true. Is it almost assumed by everyone that Lelouch at this point has amnesia himself, which would allow the relationship between the two to at least be plausible?
Lelouch is...physically inept: has trouble running up stairs, couldn't punch a guy still recovering from multiple gunshot wounds, tried digging a hole with a stick and failed.
He doesn't attend gym classes (We've never actually seen Lelouch in gym clothes in the series, despite having seen Kallen in them. Only times he was in gym clothes was: a) front of sound drama CD 1, hiding a gym clothes dressed C.C. from Suzaku, and b) in a magazine spread where Suzaku is lifting him up and Lelouch is looking rather...perturbed) either because he doesn't have to, or more likely because he instead gambles, freedom fights, or takes care of Nunnally who obviously isn't going to gym. Though as of the beginning of R2 gambling is probably the best bet for why he'd never be in gym class.
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-22, 07:18
As for the new cast members: they're pretty much all antagonists (the Rounds), or at least are allies from different organizations like Kaguya (Lee). Honestly, some of these guys could easily end up villian of the month, and be culled exceptionally quickly. As for Rollo, I very much doubt he'll survive long in his current incarnation: If there's a mystery behind him, that means he's someone or something we already know about, and in due time will revert to that form.
Well, Taniguchi said Lelouch would meet a lot of new characters, but I suppose most of them wouldn't be that important to the story. I don't see many of the Knights becoming too important except the ones that appear in the Newtype spread and even with that, Anya and Gino will be the ones with the most screentime.
Rollo=V.V.? Insane I know, but it wouldn't surprise me if he could shapeshift. Still, I agree that whatever secret he is hiding will likely be revealed at least by the midway point of the series and if not it will be hinted very strongly who or what he is.
lightbringer
2008-02-22, 11:09
I'm more optimistic with regards to Rollo. He should be tied to whatever is happening back in Area 11, so his "mystery" should be unveiled early on, probably around episode 5 or so.
You guys are raising an interesting point - Viletta picked the absolute worst class to teach if she wants to spy on Lelouch. Guess that's why she's frantically jumping around? ^_^
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-22, 11:23
I'm more optimistic with regards to Rollo. He should be tied to whatever is happening back in Area 11, so his "mystery" should be unveiled early on, probably around episode 5 or so.
You guys are raising an interesting point - Viletta picked the absolute worst class to teach if she wants to spy on Lelouch. Guess that's why she's frantically jumping around? ^_^
Optimistic in what way? That he is not actually an antagonist to Lelouch? I have a disposition to him being evil, but I'll admit that his current behavior that has been displayed suggests otherwise. The only real evidence I have is that evil smile which has only been shown once. It may be true as he could possibly be part of whatever Lelouch has to overcome in order to get the rebellion really going. I also think he might be one of the keys to whatever happened to Lelouch and what went on in that cave. Of course, I wonder what he will do once his mystery is revealed. I've never bought that he was Lelouch's brother which is probably an obvious conclusion and I never thought he could be some part of Lelouch as I heard some theories suggest.
I'm curious as to how long she has had the job. Still, she did indeed pick a bad class. Maybe she thinks she sees lelouch doing something suspicious and jumps down to "catch" him only to be disappointed.
Pink-chan
2008-02-22, 11:29
I'm curious as to how long she has had the job. Still, she did indeed pick a bad class. Maybe she thinks she sees lelouch doing something suspicious and jumps down to "catch" him only to be disappointed.
And this goes on and on for the past year :heh:. Everyone can't be bothered. :heh:
Dann of Thursday
2008-02-22, 11:33
And this goes on and on for the past year :heh:. Everyone can't be bothered. :heh:
I would love if there was some mention of her doing such a thing several times over the year.
Something I am still curious about is what the student council and others will say about Nunnally suddenly disappearing and Lelouch suddenly having a younger brother. I get the feeling that Lelouch doesn't remember Nunnally for whatever reason, but someone at that school must have asked him about it.
KrimzonStriker
2008-02-22, 11:40
Maybe we've underestimated Lelouch and he actually does remember everything and is just playing along/lying low for now.... it's wholly possible seeing how he good he is at acting. Who knows, Rollo may very well be his brother, we certainly haven't seen that many of his siblings beforehand...
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