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monir
2007-12-12, 19:39
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Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-12, 20:00
So, we have Kotomi continuing on with her training to become a violinist.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?


Will she succeed, or put someone to sleep for all eternity with shock?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?


Also, what will Tomoya and Kyou do when they're by themselves?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?



Hope we get more floods of Kotomi moe!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

monir
2007-12-12, 20:08
Also note how I've beat Klash today in the creation of the thread. Hey.. why is Kotomi looking at me? Hey.. she isn't going to say what I think she wants to say? Don't Say It Girl.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

Oh man! Now I feel terrible. Sorry Klash. :upset:

No I'm not. :D

iamandragon
2007-12-12, 20:14
I have a feeling that this topic is going to turn into a legend...just like this (http://post.baidu.com/f?z=278422265&ct=335544320&lm=0&sc=0&rn=50&tn=baiduPostBrowser&word=clannad&pn=500) thread...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-12, 20:14
Oh man! Now I feel terrible. Sorry Klash. :upset:

You shouldn't, it's first come first serve :p

Now, I need to worry about my bandwidth with all these "Nandeyane~?" going on..... (one day after I first posted, it shot up by 400 megas....)

Ascaloth
2007-12-12, 20:24
Unfortunately, I'm flying out today.....which means I can't catch tomorrow's episode. :(

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

And after tomorrow's episode, we'll have to wait for two weeks for any new Kotomi stuff. :(

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

iamandragon
2007-12-12, 20:25
You shouldn't, it's first come first serve :p

Now, I need to worry about my bandwidth with all these "Nandeyane~?" going on..... (one day after I first posted, it shot up by 400 megas....)

All of these Nandeyane~? gif are from the same source, so having 500 of them only slows down your processor, your computer only need the load the gif once. Assuming that everyone posts a Nandeyane~?, this forum supports 20 posts(by default) per page, so you'll get 20 of them. Each picture is approximately 500kb, so you'll be loosing 10MB of processor power for every page full of Nandeyane~? Of course you can always expect there are people like Kang-kun who posts a few. If your computer has 1GB ram, you can view approximately 100 Nandeyane~? without problem. That is, if everyone attaches a Nandeyane~? in the end of their post, the max we should is 5.



http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/d0025291_47595d3d7f362.gif

Nandeyane~?

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-12, 20:28
All of these Nandeyane~? gif are from the same source, so having 500 of them only slows down your processor, your computer only need the load the gif once. Assuming that everyone posts a Nandeyane~?, this forum supports 20 posts(by default) per page, so you'll get 20 of them. Each picture is approximately 500kb, so you'll be loosing 10MB of processor power for every page full of Nandeyane~? Of course you can always expect there are people like Kang-kun who posts a few. If your computer has 1GB ram, you can view approximately 100 Nandeyane~? without problem. That is, if everyone attaches a Nandeyane~? in the end of their post, the max we should is 5.

I was talking about my photobucket account bandwidth, not my personal internet bandwidth.

It's scary to see it go up by 5 percent of total capacity in a single day.

Skyfall
2007-12-12, 20:30
I would like people to refrain from posting these huge Gifs for no apparent reason. All it does is clutter up the thread and that is a service to no one. Talk about your expectations regarding the episode until it actually airs, just don't post for the sole reason to spread some more of these gifs around.

orion
2007-12-13, 00:51
I don't think they're listening, Skyfall. :uhoh:

I agree that was pointless.

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 00:53
I don't think they're listening, Skyfall. :uhoh:

I agree that was pointless.

I second the sentiment.


(Hides for starting the trend)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-12-13, 01:39
What's this now, a new meme? Good thing I have my Opera content options available if it get's contagious and spreads beyond the bounds of this sub forum.:uhoh:

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 02:15
What's this now, a new meme? Good thing I have my Opera content options available if it get's contagious and spreads beyond the bounds of this sub forum.:uhoh:

Yes, a potential new meme founded by the preview to episode 11.

I claim the name of original memeist!

velocity7
2007-12-13, 02:19
What's this now, a new meme? Good thing I have my Opera content options available if it get's contagious and spreads beyond the bounds of this sub forum.:uhoh:

What meme are you speaking of?

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 02:21
What meme are you speaking of?

The 13 pictures above will answer your question.

toxic_trance
2007-12-13, 02:30
WHOA... 13 nandeyanes~ ...

Well.. that is the power of :love: :love: Kotomi-chan :love: :love: for you. Its very tough to refrain urself from using pics when talking about Kotomi-chan. I mean..she is a silent girl after all..and in these cases "A picture speaks a 1000 moe words"

Shinova
2007-12-13, 03:23
WHOA... 13 nandeyanes~ ...

Well.. that is the power of :love: :love: Kotomi-chan :love: :love: for you. Its very tough to refrain urself from using pics when talking about Kotomi-chan. I mean..she is a silent girl after all..and in these cases "A picture speaks a 1000 moe words"

The pun god is gonna rape you in your sleep.

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 03:37
Okay guys, let's stop....

It's already getting old, and my bandwidth went up by another 200 mega in the last 3 hours -_-

Plus, Skyfall is angry.

Ruhisu
2007-12-13, 03:50
Yep so I'm sorry mates
I am wondering how Kotomi will handle the violin now and how her exercises are going on :)

IRJustman
2007-12-13, 04:01
I am wondering how Kotomi will handle the violin now and how her exercises are going on :)

All I can say is that if you can't stand the noise, get off the tarmac. ;)

--Ian.

Ruhisu
2007-12-13, 04:05
Only noise?:) Well maby it is not gonna hard because when I ah hearing music it is really loud, but I'm worried about my windows and aquarium :D This fishes weren't that cheap :P

kim8268
2007-12-13, 08:36
I want to ask if some of you know that fuko's story in clannad has a small resemblance on kohei story in One I think I'm the only one the think of this

Kristen
2007-12-13, 08:40
I want to ask if some of you know that fuko's story in clannad has a small resemblance on kohei story in One I think I'm the only one the think of this

If you really make a stretch, it does. In that she is slowly forgotten by everyone who knows her, yes, it is a lot like it. However, there are huge diffences. For instance, Kouhei disappears willingly, Fuuko had no choice. Kouhei lived to continue on his love, Fuuko lived to help her sister. Kouhei was still visible to everyone after they forgot him, Fuuko wasn't. And so on and so on.
There are a few similarities. But it kind of has the same level of similarities to SnS as well.

risingstar3110
2007-12-13, 09:35
Part of me want to peek at the raw, but I better restrain myself and wait for sub ^^

Liked Ep 10 so much. let hope that i won't be disappointed ;D

Takuto19
2007-12-13, 10:30
Really looking forward to this episode heh, more of Kotomi's Moeness :)

Still one of my favoruit characters so far, but might change with Tomoyo, Nagisa and Kyou's arc still to come.

Cyz
2007-12-13, 14:28
Screenshots (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/12/13/clannad-11/) of ep. 11 courtesy of Random Curiosity. Pls. look at it at your own risk!

panzerfan
2007-12-13, 14:35
Before I say anything else, have a reminder:

Episode 12, airing on the 20th will be the last new episode of CLANNAD we shall see in 2007. Wait till Jan 11th for episode 13.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-12-13, 14:39
Soon enough these will probably be on a shelf near you. (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/CLANNAD/CLANNAD%20-%2011%20-%20Large%2020.jpg):cool:

My belief is that anytime something looks like a potential product in an anime series, it probably is, and those Kotomi plusies will probably turn up in the merchandise section before you know it. In this case they are kind of disturbing though. They kind of remind me of those Daruma.

Sailor Chibi Moon?! (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/CLANNAD/CLANNAD%20-%2011%20-%20Large%2005.jpg)

Are we looking at another potential hot product? Maybe a spinoff one. Kotomi is certainly a magical marketable girl.

Can I have some of that good stuff the animator is smoking? (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/CLANNAD/CLANNAD%20-%2011%20-%20Large%2019.jpg)

Maybe we need to get Balrog in there to kill those elephants like he did one of Dhalsims.

Anyway just though I'd comment on the screenshots still for fun at least.:heh:

Klashikari
2007-12-13, 14:45
as usual
Episode 11: bullet summary and screencaps (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/clannad-episode-11/)

Lots of fun with this episode, and the quality of this one is quite higher (almost like 1 and 2).
Kotomi's DEATH SYMPHONY is sure something in this episode :heh:
Lots of nice interactions and developments for the quator, along with the genius girl

Shiroth
2007-12-13, 15:08
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1911/01vk9.jpg

Yeah i'm speechless.

& wow, Kyou asking Tomoya if he would ever go out with a girl who really liked him. That was quite the scene.

Farplaner
2007-12-13, 15:27
Before I say anything else, have a reminder:

Episode 12, airing on the 20th will be the last new episode of CLANNAD we shall see in 2007. Wait till Jan 11th for episode 13.

http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/1225

This is huge! Looks like BS-i does not have the same break as TBS, so the widescreen broadcast will catch up to the regular broadcast fast... In fact, looks like the widescreen broadcast will now only be a week behind TBS's version.

I think I might just wait the extra week from then on to watch the widescreen version instead...

Master Anime
2007-12-13, 17:02
Before I say anything else, have a reminder:

Episode 12, airing on the 20th will be the last new episode of CLANNAD we shall see in 2007. Wait till Jan 11th for episode 13.
Zetsubou Shita !http://aoindonesia.net/images/zzsmilies/depressed3.gif
Nande http://aoindonesia.net/images/smilies/TAT2.gif

Decagon
2007-12-13, 18:15
First thing... It's nice to see Tomoya's changing. He seems to be more aware of girls than he was, probably thanks to Kyou's talk. Aside from that, there's a wonderful blend of moe, beauty, and humor this week. Speaking as a Mamiko Noto fan, there's a kind of bone-itching moe hearing her as Kotomi in the library scene.

Except for the weird dream sequence, this was a really delightful episode. You'd think Kotomi laced her food with LSD or something.

I love how the sunset colors her eyes in the post-dream cut.

kct
2007-12-13, 19:07
Good God, I was having a good laugh at this episode.

And. I would NOT dare to imagine a Mahou Shoujo Kyou-chan spin-off.

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 19:10
*On KBS News*


"This morning, a young man was found dead by his computer. The police were suprised to find out that he was drowned."



Three words: TOO MUCH MOE!

kct
2007-12-13, 19:12
I know, I know, Kotomi won a freaking amount of moe points this episode (enough to shut the haters, though I'm not).

Did not get to see the first half though...

Shana
2007-12-13, 19:12
*On KBS News*


"This morning, a young man was found dead by his computer. The police were suprised to find out that he was drowned."



Three words: TOO MUCH MOE!

Sorry, but I don't get it :heh:

panzerfan
2007-12-13, 19:17
In other news, an unidentified collage student is found dead in front of a computer, with a cryptic message left on the screen, stating that the violin recital's about to start...

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-13, 19:18
Sorry, but I don't get it :heh:

Explaination: I drowned in the flood of moe from this episode.

In other news, an unidentified collage student is found dead in front of a computer, with a cryptic message left on the screen, stating that the violin recital's about to start...

Seems we have something to talk about in the other world.

Shana
2007-12-13, 19:20
In other news, an unidentified collage student is found dead in front of a computer, with a cryptic message left on the screen, stating that the violin recital's about to start...

:twitch:

Explaination: I drowned in the flood of moe from this episode.

lol :heh: it seems like it I won't be able to see the episode, because I don't want to die :uhoh:

PhantomX
2007-12-13, 21:04
I didn't think it was possible for me to become any more of a Kotomi fan, but this episode proved me wrong... and yeah, that screen is amazing.

tripperazn
2007-12-13, 23:13
I drowned in the flood of moe from this episode.

I think that sentence sums up the episode pretty well. I was pretty indifferent to Kotomi going into this, but her antics in this one converted me :D Her rather cryptic monologue (after pie) and the ending adds much potential for development too.

I would give this ep http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/2/4/d245777abca64ece2d5d7ca0d19fddb6.png/10, since anything with Mahou Shoujo Kyou deserves nothing less. By far the most entertaining episode of anime since I watched Lucky Star.

eMpTy265
2007-12-13, 23:15
I'm finding it hard to not like this show.... second episode where I was ROFL'ing 1/2 the time


ROFL / interesting parts:

- Violin scene right at the beginning + Kotomi's intro (weapon of choice: violin - setup & attack lag of <0.2s *screech*)
- Clubhouse scene, especially mahou shoujo kyou
- Tomoya's dream (the butterflies reminded me of D.greyman, oddly)
- Kotomi's recital of death


Nice plot elements:

- Kyou's extended / modified interactions with Tomoya (really liked the effects, at the part when Kyou asked Tomoya about whether he'd go out with a girl that liked him.)
- Tomoyo meeting Misae
- The mysterious man


OMG! Moment:

- Kotomi's window scene
- Tomoyo blushing
- heh... Sunohara blushing (more like WTFOMG...)
- same as the dream sequence


I'm worried about how I shoud rank after-story... I'm already dishing 9's as if they were 7's...

Leo_Otaku
2007-12-13, 23:44
Oh wow what a great episode XD

they changed the wand to a magical baton I believe...but really interesting ^-^ Magical Kyou

Extra points for the amazing window scene where she recites the book part. More points for butterflies! Bonus points for dream sequence, adding a bit of tomoyo and kyou route and having those great moments when falling victim to the violin XD

Looks like Kotomi route will end on 13 I think

velocity7
2007-12-13, 23:48
Our casualties today:
1, kicked Sunohara
2, stunned Botan and Misae's cat
1, Sanae in Akio's arms

ThoHell
2007-12-14, 01:25
God, they made Kotomi far way too cute....... and Tomoya is pretty wow in this episode! All his kindness seems to be a huge gravity force on all the girls. Lucky guy......

pagan poor
2007-12-14, 01:30
Heh, a violin recital only an avante-garde type would sit through. :)

Otherwise, Kotomi = :love: :love: :love:

tripperazn
2007-12-14, 01:31
Sprocket's subbing speeds are reaching ridiculous levels. I just watched the raw 5 hours ago and they're already putting the torrent out there. :bow:

ThoHell
2007-12-14, 01:40
Who was that guy at the end? I sense something evil coming soon....or not. Guy looked kinda creepy and not, like boarder line. I don't know a lot of people who would let some stranger who approached a person like that to walk about without being question. Poor Ktomi was shaking like a baby!

tripperazn
2007-12-14, 01:48
Well...Kotomi does refer to him as 悪物, they want us to think antagonist?

PM me if you really want to know. This kind of stuff is against the rules even in spoiler tags apparently.

velocity7
2007-12-14, 01:52
Depends on the definition of a "bad person". It also depends on the viewpoint.

kimchipride
2007-12-14, 02:00
WoWoW Clannad 11 looks awesome... I simply can't wait.

Randomc showed awesome pics

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-14, 02:22
Well...Kotomi does refer to him as 悪物, they want us to think antagonist?

PM me if you really want to know. This kind of stuff is against the rules even in spoiler tags apparently.

I believe the word "苛めっ子" is a clue.

Reckoner
2007-12-14, 02:58
Well I am officially a Clannad episode 11 veteran, I survived the Great Moe Floods, and the violin recital.

I was having a good laugh, and was fairly entertained throughout the whole episode.

8/10, not good enough to be a 9 at all still. I am liking this arc a lot more so far.

Yet I still see a flooding of 10s on this episode already beginning, my god, my brain is bleeding from not being able to contemplate this. Seriously, is every episode a goddamn 10? Sorry to beat this already very dead and bloody horse.

Kyou is definitely going to end up knowing Tomoya more than Ryou and will fall in love by the end of this arc, which will actually for once transition well compared to this previous transition.

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-14, 03:08
Kyou is definitely going to end up knowing Tomoya more than Ryou and will fall in love by the end of this arc, which will actually for once transition well compared to this previous transition.

Wait, fall in love?

tripperazn
2007-12-14, 03:44
Yet I still see a flooding of 10s on this episode already beginning, my god, my brain is bleeding from not being able to contemplate this. Seriously, is every episode a goddamn 10? Sorry to beat this already very dead and bloody horse.

Kyou is definitely going to end up knowing Tomoya more than Ryou and will fall in love by the end of this arc, which will actually for once transition well compared to this previous transition.

Think of what Clannad is competing against here. IMO, aside from ef ~a tale of memories~, a lot of shows this season are pretty average. They're not bad and I follow most of them, but I wouldn't say they're on a level with a KyoAni adapted Key work. So far, Clannad hasn't disappointed, so I'm gonna give it a 10. Personally, I give every episode without a significant flaw a 10. It's what "Perfect" means, without flaw or detriment. Our expectations may vary, but it's not right or realistic to assume everyone judges anime the same way as you. Otherwise, there is no point for discussion.

Also for Kyou, she is close with Tomoya. They call each other by first name. However, she also knows that her sister likes him, whom she is far closer with. While Tomoya is a pretty charismatic guy, Kyou is probably has enough self-control and is aware enough of the consequences to try not to go there. Besides, she is constantly scheming to get Ryou closer and it seems to now be the dominant motive for her time spent with Tomoya.

Mirrinus
2007-12-14, 04:38
Wow, this episode was funnier than the previous one, I found. The best reason for it? Kyou. Kyou has just been an awesome character so far, and I hope that never lets up. She's remarkably different from most Key heroines, and there's just something about her assertive attitude that I find irresistable. Bravo.

Anyway, what did Kotomi mean when she spoke about the rabbit and the deer? Just wondering...

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-14, 04:40
Also for Kyou, she is close with Tomoya. They call each other by first name. However, she also knows that her sister likes him, whom she is far closer with. While Tomoya is a pretty charismatic guy, Kyou is probably has enough self-control and is aware enough of the consequences to try not to go there. Besides, she is constantly scheming to get Ryou closer and it seems to now be the dominant motive for her time spent with Tomoya.

I would count on that too much...... ;)

No anime is complete without love fights.

tripperazn
2007-12-14, 05:07
I would count on that too much...... ;)

No anime is complete without love fights.

Mere speculation on my part, based on the anime so far.

I've done some editing work on the Clannad game script currently in translation, I know what happens in Kyou/Ryou's arc. Of course, being a visual novel adaptation, KyoAni's approach is a more important factor than game content as far as how the relationships with Tomoya progress.

Wow, this episode was funnier than the previous one, I found. The best reason for it? Kyou. Kyou has just been an awesome character so far, and I hope that never lets up. She's remarkably different from most Key heroines, and there's just something about her assertive attitude that I find irresistable. Bravo.

Very true, even though it's not her arc, Kyou's appearance have been highlights of the episodes IMO (the now imfamous "Kyou is bi" and "KyouxKotomi"). However, she's dangerously close to the typical tsundere character. I just hope this isn't the turning point for Key to regress to boring cookie-cutter character.

MingShun
2007-12-14, 06:03
Bonjour~

...Kotomi's violin kills things. How cool is that?

This was an awesome ep.

SSJiffy
2007-12-14, 06:18
Flat out 10-rating episode, one of the better ones in the series thus far. I loved everything presented here, and especially the plot devices laid throughout. That cloaked man... could he possibly be up to something? I don't know! I had too much fun watching this episode. Seriously, I was laughing half the time, especially on the death from violin recital part. :D:D:D

Ruhisu
2007-12-14, 06:25
Ok today is a great day, I can see that its snowing so I can feel the Xmas spirit, its weekend and the 11th episode is released :)
Kotomi-chan wait for me there, downloading now :)

Yep. Today is a great day :):D

Joachim
2007-12-14, 07:24
i was LOL-ing almost all the time, especially in magical girl kyou scene and that death violin recital, that was a pure win (check out sunohara death pic) lol

this episode is just made of pure moe and LOL

Ruhisu
2007-12-14, 07:51
"I love fish!" :D

After this episode I am thinking now about only one think.
I think that I fell in love! :D
Kotomi-chan i soo cute that I had to pause this episode 20 times to take a breath.
I am wondering who is the person Kotomi is afraid of but it doesn't matter. Kotomi-chan fans! gather all forces to protect her!
The recital was awesome, earthquake and F5 tornado is nothing compared when Kotomi-chan handles the violin XD:D

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u37/Ingram20pl/Ingram20pl2/kotomi2.jpg
Now try to not fall in love. Impossible ;)

cshard
2007-12-14, 07:52
If Kotomi ever turned to the dark side, would anyone be able to stop her flood of Moe and Symphony of Death? :heh:

Kotomi's school destroying violin skills... Kyou and Tomoyo have nothing on her destructive power. :heh: I wonder if the Legendary Starfish User with her hordes of bodyguards might have a chance? Perhaps this is the disaster that befalls the earth 100 years into the future?

If Kyo Ani makes that violin screech into a music track... I know what my new alarm ringtone will be. XD Hilarious how the entire school seemed to be affected by it. And good job Kyou! Tackle the superweapon before it can fire again!

Good job Kyou again, for keeping Kotomi from firing with manzai practice. XD What was that all about anyway, "Give me 100 'Nandeyanen!''s and no complaints from you?". Does this count as an ijimeru situation?

Seeing how fast Tomoya could imagine a Mahou Shojou Kyou and remembering his earlier self-portrait in ep 09... I seriously don't think I want to know how his mind operates. :heh:

Demon eyed Kyou is fearsome, but not as fearsome as the Symphony of Death. :D

Kyou is heartless. She sacrificed her twin sister and Nagisa to the whim of the Evil Violin Master Kotomi just for a chance at Tomoya! Will the Dango Daikazoku save Nagisa in time?!? :heh:

The scene when Kyou asked Tomoya if he'll go out with a girl who was madly in love with him... that was just lovely. I loved the way they made the scene close up to Kyou's lips just as Kyou was saying "..tsukiauki... aru?" If Tomoyo doesn't catch up soon... wait, I think Kyou just overtook her in my power rankings.

Hmm, ohisashiburi Tomoya oyaji.... first appearance in a while I must say.

Ahh, the Symphony of Death seems to be getting stronger each time. I swear I heard the screams of several voices in the midst of that. :heh:

"Tomoya kun, ijimekko?" Love the look on Kotomi's face. Manzai no renshuu ganbare, Kotomi~!

Although she didn't seem to be making sense when she opened the window, I'd be staring with my mouth open too if I were Tomoya. :D And that follow up.... "Ano ne, Tomoya kun. Moshi, Tomoya kun wo iya janakattara...futari de... futari de... isshoni... gohon wo yomitai no." Definitely the best line this episode :heh: Iya da na, Tomoya kun. Ecchi no koto wo kangaeruna~~~!. Anyway, choosing a winner for prettiest girl is definitely a close fight in this school. XD

Absurdly smooth animation for a pair of butterflies. Nandeyanen? Kyo Ani's really rubbing salt into the wounds of rival studios aren't they? :heh:

As for that dream of Tomoya's... has Fuuko started to infect Tomoya? That dream's one step more nonsensical than Fuuko's Starfish matsuri. Poor Dango Daikazoku. Have we caught a glimpse at Tomoya's true malicious intentions towards the Big Dango Family?!?!?

Nagisa seems to be the official artist of the group now. :heh: More Dango love is good. Quite the deceptive flyer isn't it?

Kyou bullied her entire class into coming... but why are the rugby guys here? Wonder who invited them and Misae. For that matter, why bring the cat? :heh:

Tomoyo blushing is good. Come on Tomoyo! Retake your top spot on the power rankings~! More of this and you're good to go!

As expected of Kyou. Final Weapon - Earplugs? That explains the lack of casualities this time. XD

Nagisa and Ryou were VERY deceptive at the start of the recital. I have to ask though... why a triangle and a clapper to accompany a violin? Imi wa wakaranai.

Botan and Misae's cat should be made honorable members of the Theater club for their excellent dying performance. And it seems like last time was Akio's turn to die, so now it's Sanae? I think Akio had a less violent death at the hands (foot) of a carving knife. :heh:

Wonder why Sunohara chose to run straight to Tomoyo in his pain? Probably thought that the pain of Tomoyo's kicks would render him unconscious enough to resist Kotomi's violin. Good thinking Sunohara! :D

Nagisa as temporary Kotomi defense line vs suspicious ojisan was amusing... as was the fact that Kyou took point in FRONT of Tomoya. XD Is the power gap that wide? :heh:

Next ep seems full of Kotomi drama. XD Pity that after that we'll have to wait so long to watch the conclusion.
OTL.

Ruhisu
2007-12-14, 07:54
Than I would also join the dark side :)

Kristen
2007-12-14, 07:56
Did anyone else notice how smooth the animation was in Tomoya's dream with the butterflies?

Kotomi is awesome. That scene with her by the window was amazing, I especially loved the music. I think that Kyoani using original game music is great, but when they make their own music, it's really something out of this world. I like it.
But it seems like the plot just started this episode, and isn't coming to a conclusion next episode. I'm thinking there'll be 3-4 more episodes of Kotomi-chan. That's either a good thing (Maybe another season?) or a bad thing (Maybe they'll only do 3 characters?)

Anyways, this episode was something special. It was hilarious, especially the violin recital. :) I'm going to give it a 10 because it was, well, perfect.

ElementSun
2007-12-14, 08:28
at the dream sequence at 14:42, when Kyou appears, Tomoya says "I was thinking its about time for you to show up..."

rofl

Mentar
2007-12-14, 08:28
It's an episode discussion, so we don't need the spoiler tags, right? ;)

Excellent episode indeed, very enjoyable. However, I'm a bit surprised that nobody mentioned Kotomi's hilarious incantation yet:

Waving the magical wand, in true Mahou-shoujo style, she chanted...

...a prayer to an evil Cthulhu god from the Lovecraft horror cycle

I mean, wtf? :) ... a mahou shoujo waving a heart-shaped wand worships an evil Cthulhu god?

Proves once more that Japanese anime/game makers use foreign-language stuff without even knowing what they're talking about ^_^

cshard
2007-12-14, 08:32
@ Mentar - Well the subs aren't out in force yet... XD Although I suppose almost everyone would have read RC by now.

As for Cthultu... O_O Well, Kotomi does love books.... XD Needs more practice with her chant like her manzai before she gets it right, I suppose. :heh:

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-14, 08:47
It's an episode discussion, so we don't need the spoiler tags, right? ;)

Excellent episode indeed, very enjoyable. However, I'm a bit surprised that nobody mentioned Kotomi's hilarious incantation yet:

Waving the magical wand, in true Mahou-shoujo style, she chanted...

...a prayer to an evil Cthulhu god from the Lovecraft horror cycle

I mean, wtf? :) ... a mahou shoujo waving a heart-shaped wand worships an evil Cthulhu god?

Proves once more that Japanese anime/game makers use foreign-language stuff without even knowing what they're talking about ^_^
Ah, you beat me to it by 10 minutes. I was about to mention Kotomi making the Lovecraftian incantation, since I learned about it while covering Kotomi's route in the translation project.

Anyway, I'm not surprised that this was included in the anime adaptation.

What's surprising is they actually animated the henshin sequence of Magical Girl Lyrical Kyou, good lord. Judging from her Terminator-like eyes, she's probably equipped with a deadly cannon to rival the infamous White Devil's Divine Buster and Starlight Breaker, if not surpass them.

Good time management of the scenes can be seen by the insertion Kyou and Ryou's story when Kotomi is out of the picture, this week it's Kyou asking Tomoya whether he'd go out with a girl that likes him.

Fansubbers please be careful, when subbing what Kotomi said as she stood by the window, please stick by this line and DO NOT change the wording:

Day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.

This is very important, and it'll make sense later on. All I'll say is she's quoting from an English novel.

That scene was beautiful, BTW.

Yukine and Misae-san were given some character development, considering they aren't the "main heroine". Especially Misae-san, with Tomoyo as her no. 1 fan.

Sadly for them, along with Sunohara, Akio and Sanae-san, they've all been enlisted as the latest victims of Kotomi's deadly violin sonar. lol

(For some reason, I was reminded of the GDI Sonic Emitter in Command & Conquer 3.)

Kanon Trivia: Someone noted that the props inside the Drama Club room box contained Mai's sword, while the magic wand belonged to Sayuri-san. (It's a KEY inside joke that Sayuri-san is a Magical Girl in secret. In fact, the cover of the Kanon OST has Sayuri-san waving the wand. )

Hamster
2007-12-14, 09:56
There is one scene here that grabbed my soul and won't let go. Here's a clue:
"Bo~nnn~jouu~r?" *bats eyelashes*

Oh God that has to be one of the moest, cutest scenes I haver ever seen. 0.0

A gif image yes that's it, a gif would be priceless! ..Please?

Ruhisu
2007-12-14, 09:58
@ Mentar - Well the subs aren't out in force yet... XD Although I suppose almost everyone would have read RC by now.

As for Cthultu... O_O Well, Kotomi does love books.... XD Needs more practice with her chant like her manzai before she gets it right, I suppose. :heh:

Good words, we can't say such things because we have to renember that she "lives for books" and she don't know very much about most of things in the real world besides I can't imagine her as a evil person.

"A gif image yes that's it, a gif would be priceless! ..Please?" Oh yeah! that was the first time when I had to pause the episode to take a breath :D CUUUUUUTE!!!

arkxkra
2007-12-14, 10:01
lol, the part when Kotomi playing the Violin infront of everyone that time, I keep on laughing non stop. Nagisa's parent was nice acting. Sunohara was given a kick, and the two animal i really lol :heh:

First time to see Kotomi so panic(at the end there).

Kyou is helping her sister i think, but herself?

oh yea. "Day before I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you."
what is the meaning of this?

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-14, 10:02
One thing I like about Kyo-Ani the studio is their attention to even the most insignificant detail. It's only upon closer inspection can you appreciate their effort (or waste of time, depending on your viewpoint of them). :cool:

If you remember the old teacher Koumura from a while ago (he helped organize the wedding), know that even he came for Kotomi's violin recital.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/562/snapshot20071214011157xr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Unfortunately, even he isn't immune to Kotomi's Sonic Emitter.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4750/snapshot20071214010920mx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Images courtesy of this blogger:
http://blog.xuite.net/rookierookie/moe/14802829

tripperazn
2007-12-14, 10:04
Proves once more that Japanese anime/game makers use foreign-language stuff without even knowing what they're talking about ^_^

I think this is more of a jab at the fact that Kotomi is clueless about the bright and happy nature of Mahou Shoujo. Her cultural ignorace in other words, as we see in her inane, but cute attempts at tsukkomi.

Proto
2007-12-14, 10:05
This is very important, and it'll make sense later on. All I'll say is she's quoting from an English novel.

The heck... Kotomi will pull a Mikuru on us? :p

okay, I'll shut up. Thanks for clearing my Deja vuh, Kinny.

changeup
2007-12-14, 10:25
I have to say so far Clannad the whole series has not impressed me. Not saying it's a failure, which it is far from it, but more like way below my expectation. Well, that's what an initial high expectation will do it for you sometimes...

The characters are as flat as paper... not saying that's a bad thing. After all, most Kyoto Animation series have all the characters flat and still achieve great dramatic effects utilizing their flatness. The problem is, after watching Air and Kanon, the plot designs are no longer novel to me. And since each characters got only 3 or 4 episodes to develop their stories, they are made rush, rather like filling certain things in a template, and I see everything coming at least an episode before.

Kanon made me cry throughout the show, and Clannad is more on the comedic side... maybe they deliberately made this series like this, but I have to say they have wasted a great story... If only they can concentrated on one or two characters and fully develop their story...

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-14, 10:39
I have to say so far Clannad the whole series has not impressed me. Not saying it's a failure, which it is far from it, but more like way below my expectation. Well, that's what an initial high expectation will do it for you sometimes...

The characters are as flat as paper... not saying that's a bad thing. After all, most Kyoto Animation series have all the characters flat and still achieve great dramatic effects utilizing their flatness. The problem is, after watching Air and Kanon, the plot designs are no longer novel to me. And since each characters got only 3 or 4 episodes to develop their stories, they are made rush, rather like filling certain things in a template, and I see everything coming at least an episode before.

Kanon made me cry throughout the show, and Clannad is more on the comedic side... maybe they deliberately made this series like this, but I have to say they have wasted a great story... If only they can concentrated on one or two characters and fully develop their story...
Clannad is not supposed to be another crying story like Kanon or AIR. It's not that kind of story. You can't expect Steven Speilberg to produce another Schindler's List when you're watching Saving Private Ryan.

The reason Clannad is more on the comedic side is because it is more on the comedic side to begin with.

The majority of Kotomi's and Fuuko's story we've seen so far was how Tomoya sees the fun side of their lives, before they hit you with their tragic side near the end. They didn't waste any story because there isn't much of a "plot" to begin with, the story is character-driven.

I do not agree with you that the characters are flat, this time they're making it pretty clear that the backbone of the story will be between Tomoya and Nagisa, so these two gets the most screentime. Give them more time.

And are you sure you want the Kyoto Animation studios to go in flames if they do as you suggest and just concentrate on one heroine? :cool: Aren't they already doing that with Nagisa? And it'll be a waste of the other characters' potential if they aren't allowed any development, since they complement well with Nagisa's story.

Tell you what without spoiling anything, Nagisa actually interacts with the other girls in Kotomi's story more than in her own story, so they've merged hers and Kotomi's paths well, at the same time furthering each other's development.

Compared to some studios out there, they're doing a pretty good job juggling between the various heroines screen time.

Skyfall
2007-12-14, 10:42
Now this was an awesome episode if i have ever seen one. I was chuckling for the better part of the episode; Kotomi's antics and her violin requiem had me floored almost always when they came up, and Kyou managed to be hilariously entertaining again. Blackmailing people in to coming was priceless, so was selling ear plugs at the same time. For my reaction towards Mahou Shoujo Kyou see Tomoya :heh: Sanae's "death scene" was classic as well, and Akio sure is the right man to follow through.

And when i was not earthbound from laughter, i was busy melting away from the overbearing moeness that is Kotomi. Prior to this episode i was rather impartial towards her, but she managed to grow on me very quickly, even though i was not expecting such. (And the window scene was beautifully animated to boot :)).

All moeness and comedy aside, we also got some development on the more serious (or soon to be) side. Kyou scene at the bus station was rather upfront without being direct. If anyone still had some doubts that Kyou is interested in Tomoya, this should put a cork in that hole :) Kyou saying to Ryou that Kotomi might be her love rival ...task tsk, aren't we the same, onee-chan ? :)

Can't really say much about the suspicious man at the end ... obviously related to Kotomi, but whatever his connection to her, somehow i don't think he is all bad like Kotomi makes him out to be. Though she sure looked scared ...hum.

In my opinion this is one of the best clannad episodes up to date. It had everything it needed to, and was 110% entertainment from beginning to end, thus this is the first clannad episode i ma giving a perfect score.

Ashlotte
2007-12-14, 11:03
"Do you want me to punch you until you cry?" :heh:

Complete and utter WIN of an episode. :p

As much as I'm a kotomi fan kyou really stole the show a couple times this episode for sure. Hope to get more of her during this arc. ;)

velocity7
2007-12-14, 11:14
Fansubbers please be careful, when subbing what Kotomi said as she stood by the window, please stick by this line and DO NOT change the wording:

Day before I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.

This is very important, and it'll make sense later on. All I'll say is she's quoting from an English novel.

Do not fear. In fact, I credited Baka-Tsuki for this find. :)

minhtam1638
2007-12-14, 11:18
I think I'm more worried about Static Subs and Eclipse missing this more than The Waffle House

panzerfan
2007-12-14, 11:45
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

Takuto19
2007-12-14, 12:21
10/10

Really liked this weeks episode, just so much fun in it heh, lots of Kotomi and of the other girls.

Really liked Kyou's moment with Tomoya as he waited for the bus, makes me think that Kyou's arc is gonna be a good one when it comes along.

Hope next weeks is just as good :)

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-14, 12:36
first of all i havent played the game at all so this is just an idea
i just rewatched the ep and heard somthing that might be importent
i dont think most of the dream has any real meaning but there is one thing that struck me as meaningful
in the dream scene kyo said that the gas emited by by bakeing bread is harmful to humans
nagisa (who is always sickly) lives in a freaking bakery
could there be something to that

Deathkillz
2007-12-14, 12:42
SONIC BLAST!...Kotomi chan kowaiii T_T

:heh:

Pretty funny ep and surprisingly it flew by pretty quickly.

Kotomi still doesn't know how much her "skill" affecting the people around her - I cracked up at her saying that she hasn't made anyone fall over yet XD
She is good at "rough speak" lawl...Nande are!? O.o

Tomoya's image of magical girl Kyou is disturbing...and yes - she should hit him until he cries.

Some implied and subtle development from Kyou. Asking him to "play" with her alone and then asking if he has a girlfriend is just a taster of what is to come (she may be expressing her true feelings through a different reason).

"Tomoya in wonderland"

Tomoyo seems to be setting herself up for her future role as well - I can't wait :D

But for now, may we hear her violin again.

SANAE!!!!! ;__;

The old man is obviously a pedo as well ^^ lawl

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-14, 12:56
Do not fear. In fact, I credited Baka-Tsuki for this find. :)
What do you mean you credited Baka-Tsuki? I thought you are Baka-Tsuki. :heh:

KaneDragon
2007-12-14, 13:06
So many cute scenes. I need to cut down on my screenshot habit, especially when I have to go back and replace them all once the widescreen version comes out... :)

That dream sequence was freaking trippy. I could have done without seeing Tomoya turn into a maggot, or whatever the heck that was. Haha, Ryou says you're a schizophrenic. Maybe she's using mind control? :uhoh:

Fansubbers please be careful, when subbing what Kotomi said as she stood by the window, please stick by this line and DO NOT change the wording:

Day before I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.

This is very important, and it'll make sense later on. All I'll say is she's quoting from an English novel.
The Dandelion Girl, hmm? Well, I'll avoid it for now since you say it's important, and go back to it after Kotomi's arc is over.

Can't really say much about the suspicious man at the end ... obviously related to Kotomi, but whatever his connection to her, somehow i don't think he is all bad like Kotomi makes him out to be. Though she sure looked scared ...hum.
Having recently watched the 10th episode of Shakugan no Shana II (Yuji's dad stalks people and his own house for an entire day just for kicks), another Mysterious Stalker Man doesn't seem so out of place... :D


Also, sorry, Kotomi, but the cutest scene had to be...
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5560/clannadboarmeetscatye2.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clannadboarmeetscatye2.jpg)
;_;

IRJustman
2007-12-14, 13:18
Fansubbers please be careful, when subbing what Kotomi said as she stood by the window, please stick by this line and DO NOT change the wording:

Day before I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.


Not to nitpick, but the line is (and this is a direct cut-and-paste from the original work):

Day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.

--Ian.

panzerfan
2007-12-14, 13:22
The manliest scene would be

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7609/11975672860007a8bd3uv5.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Faust87
2007-12-14, 13:35
What a strange dream! O_O Maybe Kotomi used LSD in the cake XD

KaneDragon
2007-12-14, 13:37
What a strange dream! O_O Maybe Kotomi used LSD in the cake XD

Maybe she used too much rum? :p

The manliest scene would be

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7609/11975672860007a8bd3uv5.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/683/tragedystrikesmb9.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tragedystrikesmb9.jpg)
It touched us all. ;_;

Klashikari
2007-12-14, 13:43
It looks like the novel reading session, while digesting wasn't exactly a good idea...
Looks like Freud would have a field day with this :heh:

IRJustman
2007-12-14, 13:46
What a strange dream! O_O Maybe Kotomi used LSD in the cake XD

Heh, funny you should mention this. velocity7 and I were having a conversation to this effect last night. Whatever it was, dat sho' must've been some wicked stuff dey been smokin'. Though that conversation applied more to VisualArt's/Key and/or Kyoto Animation staffers.

Maybe she used too much rum? :p

If it was applied before it was baked, I think the alcoholic content would have long-since evaporated owing to oven heat. If it was applied after baking, I don't think there'd be enough alcoholic content to cause, let alone warrant, THIS kind and degree of a reaction.

--Ian.

velocity7
2007-12-14, 13:55
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

The story's a pretty good read. It's influenced writers like the one for Rahxephon. :)

The Chaos
2007-12-14, 13:56
Ep 10...I Didn't Like Kotomi That Much...
But after Seen Her In this Ep ...I think She So adorable...
Good Ep ... But who is This Bad Guy ?

Kaioshin Sama
2007-12-14, 14:11
What a strange dream! O_O Maybe Kotomi used LSD in the cake XD

To be honest this is kind of like the dream I would have on an given random night going by the screenshots. I fully expected the Random Curiousity article to give me nightmares last night, but there's always still tonight.:uhoh:

Yaoi_Daisuki
2007-12-14, 14:25
is it just me or? I think i spotted a fuko look alike or something. I was pretty shock, thought that it could be fuko waking up from her coma or something, but after replaying, i doube that is fuko, different voice, different eyes =(

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1290/snapshot20071215032126el8.jpg

Proto
2007-12-14, 14:28
... Yukine from the 2nd library? I mean, yeah, she is in a void between being a main character and a secondary character but you don't have to forget her so early :p

Seraphis
2007-12-14, 14:34
Bonjour? :D

The Chaos
2007-12-14, 14:36
is it just me or? I think i spotted a fuko look alike or something. I was pretty shock, thought that it could be fuko waking up from her coma or something, but after replaying, i doube that is fuko, different voice, different eyes =(

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1290/snapshot20071215032126el8.jpg

I think That Too.....When I first Saw Her ....She Look like Fu-chan A lot ...
I miss her So much ...

Yaoi_Daisuki
2007-12-14, 14:43
FWS (Fuko Withdrawal Syndromes) starts to kick in. oh mine!!

Bonta Kun
2007-12-14, 15:00
Awesome ep. loved every bit of it, but then again I'm loving the whole series. The lass's cute factor knows no bounds, and LOL at the fact she told to take practice swings:heh:

best bit for me is: Bo-n-jour:p

oh and that hair blowing in wind scene is just lovely:love:

Bankai29
2007-12-14, 15:25
Kotomi MOEnage yet again. I can't stop myself from rewatching all of the moe scenes. Lots of laughs too, favorites would be Sanae's death and the Mahou Shoujo Kyou...:D

They're also setting up other arcs.
If Clannad will be only 24/26 episodes can they handle all the remaining arcs after Kotomi's?
Is Yukine's Arc important in the story...I'm scared she might be left behind or not handled well...

Snuffle
2007-12-14, 15:39
What a strange dream! O_O Maybe Kotomi used LSD in the cake XD

Don't you mean pie? O_o

Kyuusai
2007-12-14, 15:59
This was not a perfect episode... but it hit EVERY HAPPY SWITCH I HAVE. (There, I feel better now that I retyped that in all caps.)

*deep breath* Aaahh, I'm OK now...

It was kind of odd to see an episode at this point that's mostly slapstick. It's even odder to quickly shift back and forth between drama and pure, extended slapstick as they did in this episode. It manages to work anyway.

For me, this episode marks the point that Clannad has moved from being a very happy diversion to being gripping. I'm sure that Kotomi's brand of moe had a large role in this, but the greatest reason are the character bonds. The theme of family is showing stronger than ever, and even though the absence of Fuuko stings, seeing Kyou and Kotomi join in the depiction of this idea (their scenes showing intimacy with Tomoya were powerful and built the family theme, even if they were primarily romantic) makes it very, very satisfying, as well as more compelling. With this emotional foundation, the slapstick that can be such a distraction becomes much more palatable.

And the slapstick was good! I'm not a fan of the joke that Kotomi can't play the violin, but I think they pulled it off really well here. The reactions are generally snappy and funny, and even when everything was dragged out too long at the recital, I couldn't help but laugh. Best of all was, without a doubt, Kotomi's confusion and "Gokigen yo" and "Bonjour". :D

All by itself, Kotomi's character leans hard on my brain's moe button. If that weren't enough, she's voiced by Noto Mamiko. Despite her distinctive voice, she's using a different enough voice here that I didn't recognize her until I read about it. In other roles typical of her work (Matsuri in Sola, Anna in Ichigo Mashimaro), her speaking voice has consistently put a stupid, relaxed grin on my face. As Kotomi, though, her voice also makes my eyes glaze over and the rest of the world melt away. Nothing has ever deserved the label "iyashi kei" more. :love:

You know, I almost feel defensive about being a Kotomi fan. I really figured this would be a character (like Sayuri or Nayuki in Kanon, or Miyuki in Lucky Star) where most people overlooked or didn't care for the character as much as others, and I would be alone or in small company in my character admiration. Well, it looks like a lot of other folks like Kotomi. I'm retreating inside my head with this issue, and remaining obstinate in the belief that no one else appreciates her properly like I do. So there!

Status my Personal Clannad Rabu-Rabu rankings:
- Kotomi continues her strong presence and cements her presence in the top-tier competition with her general adorableness and ventures into intimacy-land.
- Kyou breaks expectations of finishing with a runner-up status and proves she could make a showing in the top-tier competition. She could. go. all. the. way! This is for two reasons: First for demonstrating such easy intimacy, and secondly... Despite her zettai ryouiki not giving her the win in a direct lineup against Kotomi last episode, she uses the technique for far better effect this time around both by herself and in a lineup.
- Ryou doesn't do badly, but perpetuates expectations that she won't break beyond the third-tier beside Yukine.
- Tomoyo's haughtiness would ordinarily shatter expectations that she'd be in the top-tier, but she's expected to make a VERY strong finish, so she can't be written off yet.

Of course, Nagisa and Fuuko are exempt from my Personal Clannad Rabu-Rabu rankings and each hold Super-Imouto status.

I try to not comment on specific translations unless I can be sure it won't come across as anything but friendly, but I'm having trouble phrasing it just right, so this is my disclaimer that I'm not trying to be critical, just comment on something that stood out to me.
As I noticed they did on the last episode's preview, TWH (my favorite Clannad subbers, may velocity7 and his crew's names be forever remembered in history) translated "Nandeyanen" as "What the hell?" I'm not sure how any one else translated it.
I happen to be of the opinion that, generally speaking, some variation of "What the...?" to be the best interpretation of the word, but to me, personally, that seemed a little harsh for Kotomi. In cases where the character isn't given to rough language, I'm partial to the phrase "What the heck?". Same meaning, not as sharp, and really puts across the implication of silliness or playfulness.
Does any one else have any opinions on this? :)

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-14, 16:16
you know i just realized that yukino looks just like sayuri at times
if you look at the pic posted last page and try to picture it
you can almost here the haee sound that sayuri makes when shes suprised
also she served the male lead food (tea) without any reason on her part
and shes stuck in this kind of "not being a main heroine but still looking like she could have been one" limbo

IRJustman
2007-12-14, 16:24
you know i just realized that yukino looks just like sayuri at times

Don't you mean "Yukine"?

--Ian.

Ruhisu
2007-12-14, 16:27
Perhaps Sayuri was an inspiration to create Yukine. Some of characters can be compared to Kanon ones.

Ikonomi
2007-12-14, 16:30
Wow, lots to say about this one.

Lots and lots going on... Almost too much. The action was kind of all over the place, but in a pleasant kind of way. There was a good deal of comedy and more than a few unbelievable moments. Kyou's henshin... Whoa. Then her scary eyes. Fatalities at the recital. Botan and the cat!

Kotomi, our leading lady, is so delightfully over the top, the way she speaks, plays violin... everything. The couple uber-dramatic scenes really kicked me in the teeth. The Kotomi x Tomoya butterflies gave me butterflies of my own. "Issho ni..." Yikes, allure. And Kotomi at the window, holy crap, who saw that coming?

Kotomi was definitely the star, but the other girls kicked the moe into high gear this time around, too. The twins, Kyou especially, were really engaging. Funny that Tomoya can play it cool with her, but Kotomi threw him way off balance. One of the highlights of this episode for me was seeing a bit more of the girls' personal interests and aspirations. The violin recital was really a good vehicle to push the plot along in very intriguing ways. This episode was a good reminder, after so long chasing the lovely Fuuko-chan (bless her heart), that Clannad has a very complex story to cover.

One other thing that got me was Tomoya's dream. How trippy was that? I need to watch that about three more times. And, of course, the Bad Guy's appearance at the end of the episode. Hmm.

Overall, loads of stuff to take in... It's been a very long time since I've been made to feel like a total anime geek, but this episode did it. The gags, the girls, and the undercurrent of Key's storyline pushing it all along. Awesome.

Ice Climbers
2007-12-14, 16:35
One thing to say about this episode: Kotomi :love:


The wind blowing part struck me as really beautiful, really nice animations (and good avatar material :3)


The dream was EPIC, laughed so hard

Zippicus
2007-12-14, 16:43
After watching these last two Kotomi-rific episodes, I'm starting to understand how Rena from Higurashi feels when she sees something cute.

Mirrinus
2007-12-14, 16:53
Yeah, I couldn't resist (like I could ever resist spoilers...), so I went ahead and read The Dandelion Girl. Good story, now I'm deathly curious as to how it ties in with Kotomi's story. I have some inklings, but I hope it gets explained at some point in the show as well.

Zarn
2007-12-14, 17:20
I didn't really like this episode, but it had some great laughs as well as increased harem. So 10/10 :)

Kaoru Chujo
2007-12-14, 18:44
1. Noto kawaii yo Noto!!! May be the best episode of Noto Mamiko I've heard. Now that is moe.

2. I knew I was going to be having a good time just after the 2:00 mark, when Kotomi was knocked over and fell so beautifully, slowly and impassively backward. Great work from the animators:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/540/5baenraw5d20clannad2011mw8.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/540/5baenraw5d20clannad2011mw8.jpg)

I have some sympathy for changeup's coolness toward this series. I felt somewhat the same way...until the last three episodes. Now it's got me.

othic
2007-12-14, 18:55
I know everyone is all up crazy about kotomi cause of this episode but what about kyou?
The magical girl visualization. come on!

Sorrow-K
2007-12-14, 19:22
That ep was hi-larious. Never mind Kotomi, I thought it was Kyou that was in full swing today. "Go stand in the corner and take practice swings". Brilliant.

Lots of little hints about the various relationships and it's become obvious that all the girls are in some way attracted to Okazaki. I think it's also clear, although a little more subtle, that Okazaki isn't willing to reciprocate with most of them, as evidenced by his actions in a few scenes where he subtly pushes one of the girls away (eg, "I'm a delinquent, so a girl would get tired of me" and "books aren't very interesting to read together"). I think it says a lot about Okazaki, how he sees himself, and how he thinks other people see him. He has a natural barrier in which he lets these girls become close enough so that he may act as a parent to them (I found Kyou's "maternal instincts" comment quite funny), but not any closer that they may become more (as evidenced by the fact that he and Nagisa still aren't a couple, although part of that is that it's more convenient for the story for them to still be slightly apart). All of this can be rather neatly traced back to his relationship with his father. He's an interesting character, no matter how I look at him, though.

I sort of went off on a tangent there. Good episode. I still have no idea where this arc is going (something about Kotomi's parents is my guess at this stage), but the groundwork is in place for a good character-driven arc, since they've totally established a really likable character in Kotomi.

Edit: Another thought. The animation seemingly went up a notch in this ep.

Divini
2007-12-14, 19:23
Main Char / Supporting Char[TH]
Okazaki Tomoya
Ichinose Kotomi
Fujibayashi Kyou
Furukawa Nagisa
Fujibayashi Ryou
Furukawa Akio
Furukawa Sanae
Sagara Misae
Sakagami Tomoyo
Sunohara Youhei
"The Bad Guy"
Miyazawa Yukine
Botan
Nishina Rie
Okazaki Naoyuki
Koumura Toshio
21:27
16:17
9:46
8:11
7:48
1:37
1:36
1:33
1:00
0:30
0:24
0:22
0:19
0:12
0:09
0:04

* As expected, Nagisa wasn't in the top 3 this episode. A first!

* Off topic: As much as I enjoyed this episode, it's always a huge pain for me to record huge social gatherings. :upset:




Main Char / Supporting Char
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Ibuki Fuuko
Sunohara Youhei
Ichinose Kotomi
Fujibayashi Kyou
Fujibayashi Ryou
Furukawa Sanae
Ibuki Kouko
Sakagami Tomoyo
Furukawa Akio
(Mysterious World)
Yoshino Yuuske
Botan
Miyazawa Yukine
Sagara Misae
Mitsui
Koumura Toshio
Nishina Rie
Okazaki Naoyuki
"The Bad Guy"3:41:15
2:22:57
1:23:11
48:23
36:09
33:12
31:00
17:20
16:44
14:26
12:25
6:18
4:58
3:40
3:21
3:02
2:31
2:06
1:25
1:14
0:29


* Kotomi passes Kyou and Ryou, and is poised to pass Youhei (unless he decides to spend a lot of time with Kotomi next ep... you never know!)

* The thing I'm most interested in regard to screentimes is if anyone can displace Fuuko from her spot.


I had just barely enough time to do this, so I'll post my thoughts on the ep later. Ja~~

kimchipride
2007-12-14, 19:28
Very Good episode. Kyou X Tomoya plz

Kotomi is so mysterious. Rabbit? Deer? Wtf?

othic
2007-12-14, 19:31
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

I just read it, good short story. Now I'm wondering what the hecks that mean.

Faust87
2007-12-14, 19:55
I read the story too... is good. Maybe Kotomi is a time traveller? :P

d.sinclair
2007-12-14, 20:20
This ep really reminded me of why I don't just read manga all the time. So much awesome eye candy, and I'm not talking about fanservice.

I can just imagine, the scene with Kyou asking the question to Tomoya could have been so ordinary and cliche, but the camera work and timing made it breathtaking. Same with the Kotomi window scene.

monir
2007-12-14, 20:41
This was an excellent episode from all side. Some of the background shots made me gasp in this episode which hasn't happened thus far from this series even though it is a KyoAni work. Few of them are:

http://thumbnails3.imagebam.com/137/9b9e5d1368956.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9b9e5d1368956) http://thumbnails3.imagebam.com/137/e06c531368957.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e06c531368957) http://thumbnails3.imagebam.com/137/bf66911368958.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/bf66911368958) http://thumbnails3.imagebam.com/137/6b5b341368959.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6b5b341368959)

Just gorgeous. The content was equally interesting. Tomoya's dream while Kotomi was reading the book to him is one such example. The humor was very good as well. And the hint of romance just made it an excellent episode. I've really enjoyed this episode, and hopefully the show will be able to keep its momentum, if not pick it up even further. I'll be eagerly waiting for the next episode.

Before I say anything else, have a reminder:

Episode 12, airing on the 20th will be the last new episode of CLANNAD we shall see in 2007. Wait till Jan 11th for episode 13.
Thank you for that heads up.

Owaranai Destiny
2007-12-14, 22:40
Brilliant episode. Was it only two episodes ago that the climax for Fuuko's arc was reached and tears were shed as she disappeared?

It's the usual fare from KyoAni and Key, I suppose. Everything seemed so right and normal, until they threw us a curveball in the presence of the mysterious stranger who probably became Enemy No.1 of the gang. Then again, as the next episode and his second appearance suggests, we might finally get to understand how and why Kotomi-chan has this sort of behaviour currently.

So many things I like about this episode...The hints of romance coming from Kyou makes it pretty obvious that she probably has a thing for him, and that the only thing stopping her from making it clear to the intended person is her own sister.

I don't quite get the message Kotomi-chan was trying to get across to Tomoya, though. Was it random, or was it something like stating what she likes for what she has seen so far? Kotomi-chan certainly likes Tomoya quite a bit, as apparent from wanting to share her interests with him and it's moments like when he went to school and spent time with her alone upon hearing her superb violin playing that brings warmth to this episode. The notion can go the way of 'very close friend' or 'something more'. It's all up to opinion, though. ;)

As for the humor:
In the violin recital itself.

-The way I see it, Nagisa is probably the ONLY major female lead who has yet to land an intended hit on Sunohara. Poor guy. :heh:

-The 'casualty' scenes were nicely done. They seem so ridiculous, yet at the same time one can't help but laugh at the end result. I swear I'll laugh out really loud if Kotomi-chan declares that no one has fallen because of her violin-playing. Special mention to Akio and Sanae. Nagisa has really good role models she can learn from if she needs to start up her drama club soon. ;)

-Kyou's roping in tactics + profit-making = win. I'm beginning to like her more now that she's been showing different sides of her character.

For individual scenes.
-Kotomi-chan's supposed "response" to Tomoya's accusation that her violin playing fell people...Was to play it again. Was that suppose to be some sort of a physical manifestation of her retort? :heh:

-Tomoya's "Mahou Shoujo Fujibayashi Kyou" imagery + reaction = win.

While I suppose some people are still not contented with Yuuichi Nakamura's rendition of Tomoya, I thought that his voice was best suited for the blue-haired self proclaimed delinquent whenever he deadpans.

As for the moe-ness...Not much to be said, since everything that can be spoken about this has been. :) A 9/10 for enjoyment and entertainment value as well as some foreshadowing. Really looking forward to the "Hidden World" episode.

X207
2007-12-14, 23:24
lol kotomi's chant sure is bizarre.
Magnum Innominandum: cthulu deity, tibi: a dress of some sorts, signa stellariumn igrarum et bufaniformis Sadoquae sigillum: related to a HP lovecraft, mysteries of the worm, a magic book of some sorts?

panzerfan
2007-12-14, 23:31
I think this episode had me totally baffled at the point where Tomoya started having his very interesting dream (which leaves everyone wondering what's the animators been smokin') as well as the I love fish.

(I am trying very hard to not read too much into the Dandelion Girl connection right now... it's bad enough that I read Haruhi and ponder on the metaphysics till this day)

Zaris
2007-12-14, 23:41
A lot of this episode is just variations of what we saw from the previous episode. Yes, we know the violin hurts, but it's such a dramatic tool. I've been watching the shows with speakers blasting, so you can imagine how much a chill down my spine it sent me when it first happened back in episode 10. The whole thing just damages the senses so bad that it's an effective bad! You can't help but keep your eyes glued to the screen hoping Kotomi's skills improve. And that's drama - anticipation mingled with uncertainty.

I don't put my vote in the polls, but metaphorically speaking, this episode gets "points" for good artwork in various areas. We get to see an array of vistas both new and old (Tomoya's residence, for example). There's use of effects and shading. People blush, water falls the way it should, and there's attention to detail. This is all good brownies. Sight and sound both contribute to the enhancement of the immersion and experience of TV/cinema. One can't operate without the other (imagine watching a black and white rock concert with a 21st century sound system. See my point?). And there's been no fault here.

I do have gripes, however. But fortunately, they're minute. One is timing. Certain scenes transition too quickly before I can fully intake the wealth of emotion I'm feeling at a particular moment. And there were a couple of moments where that happened, such as the switching from Sunday to Monday. Second, a consistancy issue. Kyou goes to school in a scooter. Now she's taking the bus. When did that start happening? Finally it's plotholes. Right before the intermission, Kotomi opens the window and speaks very poetically...

...why?

I hope that wasn't just for eye candy. I pray such finesse will occur more often and be part of some master plot point not yet distinguished in later shows. Because to quickly ignore something so unique and ambiguous from a person like Kotomi doesn't make me feel the least bit captivated. In fact, it kind of annoys me.

The stranger is another plothole that's starting to unravel. Now it's finally gonna get serious.

I understand they're trying to get a bit of Kyou and Ryou's harem bit into the series at this point, but I feel if it's going to be a success, they need to split up the screen time ratio a bit more evenly if it's going to work. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate it. This Kotomi section has been great comedy leading to the grand drama of things to come, but we've spent so little time concerning Kyou and Ryou's attraction towards Tomoya that the scenes where it does concern it feels awkward and violative towards the real girl of attention: Kotomi.

X207
2007-12-14, 23:58
i see the twins interest in tomoya is more like nagisa's story where they slip some developments to prepare for their actual story arcs. lol tomoya's lucky 4/6 girls hav their on him.

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 00:03
Oh, boy, not only did Kotomi flow us with moe overload, but Kyou now has the Nanoha fans' love and support...

Shana, if you want a 2008 Saimoe crown, for the love of God, make a comeback...

grey_moon
2007-12-15, 00:03
Excellent episode again.

I feel sorry for all the people who turned up to the recital in good faith, because all of the ones that Kyou forced to go along had ear plugs!

iczelion74
2007-12-15, 00:48
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

Wow, what a wonderful wonderful story, thanks for the link.

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-15, 01:50
Not to nitpick, but the line is (and this is a direct cut-and-paste from the original work):



--Ian.

Now don't be such a grammar Nazi. :heh:

I just noticed SS-Eclipse totally did what I feared and translated that line. Can't blame them as they were working on their translation the moment they obtained the raw before I posted my message. Let's hope they fix this for the widescreen version.

MonkeyDude
2007-12-15, 01:55
I think I'll take a stab at Kotomi's line...

At 1:00 Kotomi said...(going by SS-Eclipse translation)
"I've never felled people with the violin."

Of course we obviously see people agonizing on the ground, but it seems to be that Kotomi doesn't. Reason being that she doesn't see people as "people" but mere animals lower in stature than her. I don't think its a matter of a superiority complex, but more like Kotomi being in a world of her own and the only person existing in that world is herself.

Then we get the "The day before yesterday, I saw a rabbit. Yesterday, it was a deer. Today, you." line. This shows that the more Tomoya worms his way into Kotomi's heart, the higher up he goes in the food chain. Think she is very happy because she isn't alone in her world anymore, like someone can understand her now. Tomoya is probably one of the few, if not the only person Kotomi sees as an actual human being...

Think this has something to do with whatever tragic thing happened with Kotomi, but I guess we'll see it later on.

Ah but I'm probably wrong though:heh:

tripperazn
2007-12-15, 02:00
Then we get the "The day before yesterday, I saw a rabbit. Yesterday, it was a deer. Today, you." line. This shows that the more Tomoya worms his way into Kotomi's heart, the higher up he goes in the food chain. Think she is very happy because she isn't alone in her world anymore, like someone can understand her now. Tomoya is probably one of the few, if not the only person Kotomi sees as an actual human being...


I think the short story "The Dandelion Girl" will put this line in perspective. There are many elements in Kotomi's arc that draw from this story, just read it, it'll make sense after a few more episodes.

Zaris
2007-12-15, 02:39
Upon first viewing, it sounded like Tomoya was just one step above a timid forest quadruped. And I'm not even sure if there are deer where she lives. lol But after reading people's responses, I see where the quote comes from now so it's no longer as ambiguous as it was before. Still, the average viewer would be confounded by this and what she was metaphoring - myself included. If you say this arc follows a similar context to this "Dandelion Girl" short story, then I compliment you for your good observation.

At the same time, I would implore everyone to avoid reading or looking up the story until Kotomi's event is all wrapped up. You may just end up spoiling the whole dramatic pretense for yourselves. Because thinking carefully, they wouldn't be quoting books and leaving the plot dangling unless they were going to bring it up again and explain to us later what the hell it's all about.

Unfortunately, second thoughts have made me realize that the OP has a dandelion in it as well. Damn, this eludes that there are strong parallels between Kotomi and this "Dandelion Girl" story you guys are talking about. People who haven't seen or merely glanced the story that panzerfan linked are wise to do so. Stop there. Those who have already read it through will probably have their opinions of Kotomi influenced by it, and as such lose the ability to post objectively.

Mentar
2007-12-15, 02:56
lol kotomi's chant sure is bizarre.
Magnum Innominandum: cthulu deity, tibi: a dress of some sorts, signa stellariumn igrarum et bufaniformis Sadoquae sigillum: related to a HP lovecraft, mysteries of the worm, a magic book of some sorts?

[From the SS-Eclipse version]

Tibi, magnum Innominandum
To you, the great Not-To-Be-Named

Signa stellarum nigrarum
signs of the black stars

Et bufaniformis Sadoquae sigillum.
and the seal of the toad-shaped Tsathoggua.

This incantation is from the fictional grimoire, De Vermis Mysteriis, part of the Lovecraft Mythos. And it's kinda hilarious that a cute mahou shoujo waving a heart-shaped wand would recite a prayer to an evil Cthulhu god ;)


I just noticed SS-Eclipse totally did what I feared and translated that line. Can't blame them as they were working on their translation the moment they obtained the raw before I posted my message. Let's hope they fix this for the widescreen version.

When you posted your note, we actually already had released ;) ... we didn't notice that it was a quote from the short story, but we'll adapt in the widescreen version.

(I've got to admit that I don't see quite yet why it matters so much that the line stays EXACTLY unchanged - except for the Dandelion Girl reference - but I'll take your word for it)

panzerfan
2007-12-15, 02:58
@Mentar:
anyone that has seen Nanoha or SLAYERS should not be confused about the prospect of a cute magical girl citing an incantation that might bring forth utter doom.


I am in the opinion of not discussing about what we might have accidentally realized in this episode thread. Upon actually sitting down and doing pondering, it is best that we ask the question of are you pondering what I am pondering in the speculation thread.

@Mentar below:
Maybe I should add if the issues involve far more than the scope of this one episode.

Mentar
2007-12-15, 03:07
@Mentar:
anyone that has seen Nanoha or SLAYERS should not be confused about the prospect of a cute magical girl citing an incantation that might bring forth utter doom.

Come on, Lina Inverse is no mahou shoujo :) ... and I would be very surprised to hear that Nanoha was calling on evil powers of destruction.

I am in the opinion of not discussing about what we might have accidentally realized in this episode thread. Upon actually sitting down and doing pondering, it is best that we ask the question of are you pondering what I am pondering in the speculation thread.

Whatever you realized about the _current_ episode should go _exactly_ in this thread. You may want to reread the rules. I'm in the pleasant situation not to know the game at all, so my ability to spoil is effectively nil.

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-15, 04:16
welcome to the web
where within 10 minutes of something cryptic being said every one already knows
where its from and can get the whole story in the click of the mouse

god i love it

Mizuno
2007-12-15, 04:25
Mahou Shoujo Kyou and Nurse Kyou in one episode? + SD Kotomi plushies, and extreme moeness + a comeback of Botan = massive win

the only thing missing is fanservice but this series doesn't really need it.

KholdStare
2007-12-15, 04:39
10/10

This episode was amazing. It's fast-paced, which I love, and began to develop the arc I've been looking forward to. Everything was the perfect, and I was rolling in laughter at the recital, because that was great direction and animation. I also love the scenes with Tomoya and Kyou together. It's really cute.

And yes, I've grown fonder of Kyou. This is weird, since I didn't used to like Fuko, Kotomo, nor Kyou. Somehow KyoAni develops the characters so well that I've grown to like them.

C.A.
2007-12-15, 04:42
I can only feel like giving a 10, nothing else.

I was another casualty during the massacre, but not felled by the violin, just the entire scene itself. Its was hilarious, Akio and Sanae is the most dynamic married couple I've ever seen.

SuperKnuckles
2007-12-15, 06:11
IMO this arc is already LEAGUES better than Fuko's arc, though Fuko was still adorable. Just that her arc seemed overlong and sometimes pointless even with the comedy.

This ep's final moments was sorta spooky with the distant-shot of a stalker-like person approaching the girls. :heh:

If that was done any other way, it wouldn't be as creepy or sudden. I like that eye-point view. That guy seemed like some sort of a butler. Butler, in MY Clannad? yes!

KholdStare
2007-12-15, 06:43
IMO Fuko's arc is special on its own. There are episodes in Fuuko's arc with 95% comedy and 5% drama/romance and people watch Clannad for the drama/romance. Kotomi's arc is so far a very good mix if everything and especially this episode, in my opinion the true emphasis is the drama/romance and the comedy is just supplementary. What I'm trying to say is people think Fuko's arc is pointless because they watch it for the drama. I like both arcs equally because I watch anime for how much I enjoy it.

Let's take Myself; Yourself for example. I love the Hinako episodes even though they have nothing to do with the plot because I just enjoy them.

deffusse
2007-12-15, 07:18
as the recital begins>>>......puhi, puhi, puhi... meow.. puhi>>>> and the cat & piglet calmed down[to death]. After seeing that scene, I've turned down too:D:D:D:D:D:D

ah, gomene ... ep.11[score] >> 10/10

IRJustman
2007-12-15, 07:37
Since I haven't weighed in myself, 10/10 for me, for all the moe overload.

As for Kotomi's musical talent, the sound the four GE TF-39s on a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy make when throttles get opened to full take-off thrust is far more musical~! (He said having lived near what used to be McClellan AFB for most of his life. And I really miss that sound.) ;)

--Ian.

SuperKnuckles
2007-12-15, 07:38
IMO Fuko's arc is special on its own. There are episodes in Fuuko's arc with 95% comedy and 5% drama/romance and people watch Clannad for the drama/romance. Kotomi's arc is so far a very good mix if everything and especially this episode, in my opinion the true emphasis is the drama/romance and the comedy is just supplementary. What I'm trying to say is people think Fuko's arc is pointless because they watch it for the drama. I like both arcs equally because I watch anime for how much I enjoy it.

Let's take Myself; Yourself for example. I love the Hinako episodes even though they have nothing to do with the plot because I just enjoy them.

That's the thing though: Fuko arc's comedy was great. The drama on the other hand, you can see coming miles away. It was still good, but the comedy overwhelmed it. To me, Clannad may as well be a comedy show and nobody will really complain for the better. It's still really well done and I'm not exactly saying it was entirely pointless. Just that it shouldn't have taken like 8 episodes to get it done.

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-15, 07:42
so doesnt anyone think that there was something to the dream
kyo says that the gas from baking bread is bad for humans
and nagisa who is always sick lives in a bakery
i mean the dream is kind of random but that scene kind of sounds relevent

IRJustman
2007-12-15, 08:03
It's still really well done and I'm not exactly saying it was entirely pointless. Just that it shouldn't have taken like 8 episodes to get it done.

As I've said elsewhere, unlike Kanon and AIR before it, CLANNAD's story--as well as its cast of characters--is outright MASSIVE.

I spoke with Mentar, who has said that there's been talk about a very good possibility that due to the sheer amount of story in CLANNAD, additional seasons are being commissioned, as many as 3-4. One 24-episode run may not be enough to do it proper justice. To cram all of CLANNAD into 24 episodes would be akin to what Toei did for Kanon in 2002 in 13, v. KyoAni's 24[1]. It'd be a retelling of the core story with massive liberties taken to satisfy time constraints.

However, since KyoAni seems committed to staying true to the original material, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if this gets extended. Then it becomes a question of how much.

I would speak more about other possible reasons the series could get extended due to amount of source material, but I fear I would run afoul of the thread's rules, even if I wrote a brief summary. This is in spite of the fact that I have not personally played the game, thus a lot of what I would describe comes from conversations I've had with velocity7.

--Ian.

[1] NB: I'm not going to compare with the AIR movie because that's an entirely different medium, animation style notwithstanding. It would be like comparing apples (TV series) to oranges (movie).

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-15, 08:22
i have to ask
everybody keeps saying that clannad is longer then kanon/air
but how much longer
i mean there are just five characters
and if fukos arc was coverd properly in just the eps that coverd it how much longer can the other ones be
i mean i havent played the game but having played other games like it i would expect the rest of the girls storys to be about the same size as fukos (nagisas may be a bit longer)
so how could people be talking about 2 seasons
i mean to hear people talking its like there are to parts that are the same size and the school life arc of all five girls is just part one

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 08:26
i have to ask
everybody keeps saying that clannad is longer then kanon/air
but how much longer
i mean there are just five characters
and if fukos arc was coverd properly in just the eps that coverd it how much longer can the other ones be
i mean i havent played the game but having played other games like it i would expect the rest of the girls storys to be about the same size as fukos (nagisas may be a bit longer)
so how could people be talking about 2 seasons
i mean to hear people talking its like there are to parts that are the same size and the school life arc of all five girls is just part one

Uh... it's not five. It's THIRTEEN.

And there are a bunch of time resets.

Fansubbers please be careful, when subbing what Kotomi said as she stood by the window, please stick by this line and DO NOT change the wording:

Day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you.

This is very important, and it'll make sense later on. All I'll say is she's quoting from an English novel.

Static-Subs and Eclipse got this wrong, just as I feared. I notified the translator for Static-Subs, and he states they'll get it fixed for the widescreen version.

EDIT: Ugh, Late as usual...

Cheezy
2007-12-15, 08:40
Ahahah, the Mahou Shoujo Kyou scene was hilarious to the max.

Really entertaining episode. I can't wait to see more of Kyou and Kotomi.

bladeofdarkness
2007-12-15, 08:57
Uh... it's not five. It's THIRTEEN

your kidding me thirteen
and is every ones arc the same size as fuko's or are they just side characters like fuko's sister and boyfriend

by the way
during the "Day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, and yesterday a deer, and today, you." scene
when kotomi walks to the window and opens it i was freaked out
i was thinking she was going to jump

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 09:02
your kidding me thirteen
and is every ones arc the same size as fuko's or are they just side characters like fuko's sister and boyfriend

That's the thing: if you're going to see Nagisa's story at about episode 20-24, we won't go through everybody's story. However, Kyoto Animation seems to be interested in getting as much of them as possible, at least seven of them.

kim8268
2007-12-15, 09:04
Well I don't know if someone already post this theory or outcome

1. kyou asked that if someone will be attacted to him
*kyou will set the 2 (ryou and tomoya) up but in the process she also develope a liking for tomoya too.
Well thats a theory

bloodyknight
2007-12-15, 11:01
Well I don't know if someone already post this theory or outcome

1. kyou asked that if someone will be attacted to him
*kyou will set the 2 (ryou and tomoya) up but in the process she also develope a liking for tomoya too.
Well thats a theory


Well, this might work... Somehow, i have seen this kind of scenario before...

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-15, 13:02
When you posted your note, we actually already had released ;) ... we didn't notice that it was a quote from the short story, but we'll adapt in the widescreen version.

(I've got to admit that I don't see quite yet why it matters so much that the line stays EXACTLY unchanged - except for the Dandelion Girl reference - but I'll take your word for it)

That's what I meant by not blaming you guys as my post came very late on in the day.

Well, velocity7 at Baka-Tsuki preferred to stick with the original wording of the story in the game translation, so I wonder why not? If it can introduce the uninitiated to reading the story. I'm sure velocity7 will be able to explain better his reasoning to you if you so desire to know.

PS I'm amazed you managed to misspell my name while quoting me. :cool: I notice Vexx makes the same mistake you did as well time to time. :D

Ichy
2007-12-15, 14:10
Great Episode! The only thin I disliked was the End.
I don`t like that old molesterer very much :frustrated:

Ruhisu
2007-12-15, 15:03
So we have a new target. Lock On! For Kotomi-chan sake!

KaneDragon
2007-12-15, 15:05
Great Episode! The only thin I disliked was the End.
I don`t like that old molesterer very much :frustrated:

Yeah, only Kyou is allowed to molest Kotomi-chan. :frustrated:

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 15:23
Yeah, only Kyou is allowed to molest Kotomi-chan. :frustrated:

Eh? what about a Nagisa x Ryou X Kotomi threesome?

Ruhisu
2007-12-15, 15:33
Yeah, only Kyou is allowed to molest Kotomi-chan. :frustrated:

Yeah! :frustrated:

HayashiTakara
2007-12-15, 15:33
anyone else felt that Tomoya, was starting to have romantic feelings for both Kyou and Kotomi?

Ruhisu
2007-12-15, 16:29
anyone else felt that Tomoya, was starting to have romantic feelings for both Kyou and Kotomi?

Is it possible to not have a romantic feelings when You are with Kotomi-chan ?;)

Deathkillz
2007-12-15, 16:32
I find it more easier to be with Kyou or Tomoyo (latter being main choice ^^).
Not sure how he really feels about Kyou, considering his response when they are alone - He should be smitted if he thinks he can get away with falling asleep when a beauty next to him wants to play :rolleyes:

HayashiTakara
2007-12-15, 16:50
Well, he seemed to be in tranced by her when she was asking him about whether or not he'll date a girl who was totally in love with him. And the whole scene with Kotomi in the library... he was totally seduced by her there.

IRJustman
2007-12-15, 16:58
Actually, I believe I have come up with a way to explain the possible extension of the series without spoiling TOO much, though I'll duly wrap it in spoilers anyway (mods: If you feel this is too much, feeling you should wipe my message, by all means, do):

Per conversations, I've had with velocity7, three characters' routes are mutually exclusive, requiring "alternate universe" stories in order for all three to be properly told. I won't say which ones, however, for that would MOST DEFINITELY run afoul with thread rules. ;)

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 17:02
Is it possible to not have a romantic feelings when You are with Kotomi-chan ?;)

Does she not have potential to win Saimoe 2008? What with Suiseiseki retired and Shana slumping...

Klashikari
2007-12-15, 17:06
Just a little reminder for the recent comments (no one specifically):
If you are that enthusiast with Kotomi, perhaps her character discussion thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=56910) would be a better place than jacking in the episode 11 thread of CLANNAD. Of course, please stay ontopic for both threads, that's a given.
This request isn't posted to annoy you, but threads shouldn't go on jeopardy, for the sake of the consistency of each thread.

Therefore, Please stick on the episode thread topic, and so, content, events, etc about episode 11, an afterschool rhapsody.

Sorrow-K
2007-12-15, 18:10
anyone else felt that Tomoya, was starting to have romantic feelings for both Kyou and Kotomi?
Quite the opposite. I think those two are falling/have fallen for him, but I think he was trying to push them away a bit in this ep.

Mirrinus
2007-12-15, 18:39
Tomoya most definitely seemed like he was trying to push Kyou away (just look at him flat-out reject her when they were alone in the classroom). Not too sure about him doing the same for Kotomi, but he doesn't really seem as into her as, say, Nagisa.

Although Nagisa's been having too little screentime lately. Boo.

dgreater1
2007-12-15, 20:56
Kotomi-chan: DGreater1, A~~~rimasen ka?
DGreater1: Woah! Kotomi-chan is looking for me?!
DGreater1: tte, NANDE YANEN~!
DGreater1: Sonna koto wa arienai!!!!!!!!
Kotomi-chan: Un, sore wa tottemo, tottemo, tottemo arienai, dakara, dakara ne...
Kotomi-chan: hona sainara~
DGreater1: tte, NANDE YANEN~!

Okay, enough of that... Everything I want to say was already said so, I'll just say something about the, yesterday was a horse... today was deer... erm... rephrase... "The day before yesterday I saw something light blue..."

Kyou butts in (tsukkomi+tsuntsun style): I'll kick you plenty of times if you don't leave already!

Okay, I'll leave before "Demon Eyes Kyou" starts spewing beams out of her eyes XD

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Master Chibi
2007-12-15, 23:29
This series needs more Tomoyo.

minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 23:41
This series needs more Tomoyo.

Oh... yeah... I think for the anime version, at least for the first round through, we'll see a Youhei x Tomoyo pairing. Just a gut feeling

If KyoAni is planning to do a time reset, Tomoyo fans, you'll see an A X O pairing.

kimchipride
2007-12-15, 23:53
Just a little reminder for the recent comments (no one specifically):
If you are that enthusiast with Kotomi, perhaps her character discussion thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=56910) would be a better place than jacking in the episode 11 thread of CLANNAD. Of course, please stay ontopic for both threads, that's a given.
This request isn't posted to annoy you, but threads shouldn't go on jeopardy, for the sake of the consistency of each thread.

Therefore, Please stick on the episode thread topic, and so, content, events, etc about episode 11, an afterschool rhapsody.

Nothing to worry about... They're talking about Kotomi in response to what happened in episode 11. After one comment, someone quoted it to express his or her own thoughts.

We usually go back onto topic anyways... It's hard to resist talking about what a character did in response to the episode.

kimchipride
2007-12-15, 23:58
Does the dream when Tomoya is listening to Kotomi's storytelling have any significance?

Or was it for our enjoyment?

Kotomi-chan: DGreater1, A~~~rimasen ka?
DGreater1: Woah! Kotomi-chan is looking for me?!
DGreater1: tte, NANDE YANEN~!
DGreater1: Sonna koto wa arienai!!!!!!!!
Kotomi-chan: Un, sore wa tottemo, tottemo, tottemo arienai, dakara, dakara ne...
Kotomi-chan: hona sainara~
DGreater1: tte, NANDE YANEN~![/B]

Not funny

Phoenix14
2007-12-16, 02:00
^>:D

Anyway...watched this episode like 5 times...great.

holyman282
2007-12-16, 02:06
Wow this ep was great, we get more momentum in terms of Kotomi, Kyou and Ryou's plot, as well as still being funny. Good to see that Kyou and Ryou's arc is somehow integrated into the Kotomi arc, which means they'll kill to birds with one stone, liked how Kyou hinted in a big way that she's interested in Tomoya and unlike the typical clueless male leads, I actually think Tomoya got the hint but didn't want to go any further with it.

Also was it me or did a blushing Tomoyo really leave an impression lol!

grey_moon
2007-12-16, 02:09
Great Episode! The only thin I disliked was the End.
I don`t like that old molesterer very much :frustrated:

If people start going mad, then Kotomi's chant might have actually worked!

In regards to if Tomoya is getting romantic feelings for her.... I think he can't help himself but try to help out people who bring out the maternal instinct in him. I think it is him subconsciously acting the way he thinks his dad should act.

HayashiTakara
2007-12-16, 02:53
Wow this ep was great, we get more momentum in terms of Kotomi, Kyou and Ryou's plot, as well as still being funny. Good to see that Kyou and Ryou's arc is somehow integrated into the Kotomi arc, which means they'll kill to birds with one stone, liked how Kyou hinted in a big way that she's interested in Tomoya and unlike the typical clueless male leads, I actually think Tomoya got the hint but didn't want to go any further with it.

Also was it me or did a blushing Tomoyo really leave an impression lol!

What makes you think Tomoya didn't wanna go further with it? She didn't give him a chance really to finish, as she ran off as the bus arrived. Despite his behavior, I truly believe his inner turmoil is affecting his self esteem, and I think is blatent helping of others is to make himself feel better and forget about his home situation.

Also, I think it was apparently obvious that he was hoping for Kotomi to suggest something "else" other than reading a book, but I think everyone caught on to that XP... And I don't blame Tomoya for staring at her like that when she opened the window with the sakura blossoms blowing... it definately was captivating.

And yes its obvious that Kotomi is developing a crush on Tomoya.

W-General
2007-12-16, 03:07
So many things are so cute about this episode.
Kotomi's so cute.
Kotomi's delicious legs are so cute.
Kyou's so tsundere she's so cute.
Tomoya's crazy dream is so cute.
Tomoyo blushing is so cute.
The cute little critters falling over due to Kotomi's violin's so cute. Ahhhhhh

AWESOME EPISODE FOR THE WIN.

SuperKnuckles
2007-12-16, 03:14
As I've said elsewhere, unlike Kanon and AIR before it, CLANNAD's story--as well as its cast of characters--is outright MASSIVE.

I spoke with Mentar, who has said that there's been talk about a very good possibility that due to the sheer amount of story in CLANNAD, additional seasons are being commissioned, as many as 3-4. One 24-episode run may not be enough to do it proper justice. To cram all of CLANNAD into 24 episodes would be akin to what Toei did for Kanon in 2002 in 13, v. KyoAni's 24[1]. It'd be a retelling of the core story with massive liberties taken to satisfy time constraints.

Well, I wonder if KyoAni will still be there 10 years from now when they're still turning these shows out. Not that it's unlikely, but that is almost too ambitious. :heh:

However, since KyoAni seems committed to staying true to the original material, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if this gets extended. Then it becomes a question of how much.

Except we saw the same thing happen with Air and Kanon. Both the games were considerably bigger, especially with Air, which could have filled a 26 episode show, but they ended up cramming it down with no room for sequels. And of course, that relegated most of the girls to a background role even with some arcs based on them. I have a feeling Clannad could turn out like that.

Seraphis
2007-12-16, 03:42
There's someting entrancing about the way Kyou sais "chigao~!" after Kotomi says bonjour... I keep listening to that part and have no idea why o_O

Edit: In fact the whole "bonjour" "chigao~!" "bo~n~jou~r" scene..

Bankai29
2007-12-16, 05:30
Don't worry...honestly I keep on watching that scene of Kyou/Kotomi scene...damn i don't why its soooo CUTE....:p

SuperKnuckles
2007-12-16, 06:03
There's someting entrancing about the way Kyou sais "chigao~!" after Kotomi says bonjour... I keep listening to that part and have no idea why o_O

Edit: In fact the whole "bonjour" "chigao~!" "bo~n~jou~r" scene..

Yeah. Chi-Ga-U then Bo-n-jou-r-u. :heh:

I want more characters to jump in on the syllable annunciation. If it was Fuko, it'd be hi-to-de~

Joachim
2007-12-16, 10:58
to those who love the bonjour and chigao scene, you are not alone comrade, you are not alone...

who can't love that Bon Jo ourr (with kotomi eyes closed and open twice as if she was teasing someone) and that Chi ga uuu

anyway, i really love kyou's voice.. it got the element of tsundere-ness in that voice, which i found so sexy.. yummy

Dop
2007-12-16, 14:17
Woody Guthrie had a guitar with a sticker on it saying 'This Machine Kills Fascists'.
Kotomi's violin should be labelled 'This Machine Kills Everyone'.

Don't be fooled by her moe demeanor and dreamy eyes people! This girl is EVIL. In this episode we got to see two examples of her supreme evilness - not only using a poor innocent violin as a sonic weapon, but her attempt to summon The Great Old Ones from the vasty deep!!!

But, still.. Her "Nandeyanen" practice swings were cute....

As an aside, what I really want to see now is a Mahou Shoujo Cthulhu Mythos crossover anime. "In the name of Shub-Niggurath, the goat with a thousand young! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!"

bloodyknight
2007-12-16, 20:09
Woody Guthrie had a guitar with a sticker on it saying 'This Machine Kills Fascists'.
Kotomi's violin should be labelled 'This Machine Kills Everyone'.

Don't be fooled by her moe demeanor and dreamy eyes people! This girl is EVIL. In this episode we got to see two examples of her supreme evilness - not only using a poor innocent violin as a sonic weapon, but her attempt to summon The Great Old Ones from the vasty deep!!!

But, still.. Her "Nandeyanen" practice swings were cute....

As an aside, what I really want to see now is a Mahou Shoujo Cthulhu Mythos crossover anime. "In the name of Shub-Niggurath, the goat with a thousand young! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!"

Hey, about the violin thingy, what can i say?! I agree without a shadow of a doubt, man...

Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-12-17, 00:26
This episode was awesome as usual for Clannad and Kotomi's story is pretty interesting.

I think we got a hint that Kyou likes Tomoya...first theres the drama clubroom scene where she stops Tomoya from following the trio of friends and then theres the question at the bus stop that Kyou asks Tomoya...if he ever would go out with a girl that likes him, even though if he's considered a delinquent.
Kyou sure likes Kotomi...that hug that she gave Kotomi really made me wonder if she really is bi...hahahah
We have a trio of friends...Nagisa, Ryou, and Kotomi...and they all somehow think alike.:heh: but they sure like being together all the time at school.
The ending of this episode really surprised me....I never saw that coming and I really had to rewatch that scene because it happened so unexpectedly. This man that approached Kotomi...for some reason he knows her and wants something from her. Though Kotomi was scared to death when she saw this man approach her...I wonder who this guy is?? I began to think if its related to her being a child of two scholars and if this guy is related to Kotomi and wants her to skip high school and go straight to college because of her intelligence. I don't know who this guy is, but it does make Kotomi's story more interesting with this shadowy man lurking around.
Nandeyane~...so thats where everyone got that saying in the beginning of this thread. I swear every action that Kotomi does in each episode is pure cuteness...and her learning how to make a jab out of unexpected jokes really makes her even more cute.

Can't wait for the next episode.
10/10

EDIT: Is it kind of possible that Kyoto Animations may be merging Kyou's story while telling Kotomi's story at the same time? I did read that Clannad has a much longer story telling than Kanon and that Kyoto Animations may be cutting back on some of the girl's story telling arcs in Clannad.

Chi-no
2007-12-17, 08:22
Really gives you the urge to watch the next esp again.... Nice

Makes me like Kotomi more .... :)

Hunter Sock Monsters
2007-12-17, 09:59
Kotomi with violin = danger will robinson danger! Crash tackle the violin player, never thought of that before....

Kotomi seems intrigued by the magic wand. LOL Tomoya imagining Kyou transforming was great.

hmm a pun about a ghost living on campus.... a subtle hint about Fuko perhaps?

Kotomi looks gorgeous with the wind in her hair and the blossoms floating past her.

what the .... was that dream all about?! someone must've been smoking some funky weed to come up with that scene!

poor Sunohara, so gulible....

LOL the crowd and Tomoya's reaction is entertaining, and Sunohara trying to run for his life and still getting beat down is great!

Kotomi is absolutely terrified by the guy in the hat. I wonder what he did to Kotomi to terrify her so much... At least her friends were there to protect her...

Kristen
2007-12-17, 18:37
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

That actually wasn't too bad of a short story. The girl kind of reminded me of that mysterious girl in the mysterious world.

But I guess I'm really a fangirl now, considering that I read a story just because Clannad had a reference of it. :)

orion
2007-12-17, 22:01
I just think that it was a matter of convenience. He couldn't get over to Nagisa's place. She wasn't up early enough and here he is alone in a library with a cute girl who may have made a pass at him. Love had nothing to do with it imo. :heh:

This episode needed more Nagisa x Tomoya imo. It's episode 11. When are they going to kiss? :frustrated:

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-17, 22:28
This episode needed more Nagisa x Tomoya imo. It's episode 11. When are they going to kiss? :frustrated:

Kiss? In MY Clannad?

*Feels guilty after looking at his sig*

Reckoner
2007-12-18, 00:38
Meh, Nagisa x Tomoya kiss? Well I can't be anymore disgusted about a relationship than Yuiichi x Ayu in Kanon, but it really is going to be painful to me when this inevitable romantic relationship kicks off. Any of the other girls seem far better to me (Except Fuko).

Skyfall
2007-12-18, 03:36
Meh, Nagisa x Tomoya kiss? Well I can't be anymore disgusted about a relationship than Yuiichi x Ayu in Kanon, but it really is going to be painful to me when this inevitable romantic relationship kicks off. Any of the other girls seem far better to me (Except Fuko).

I don't see where that comparison sprung from. Hair color aside, there is nothing similar between Ayu and Nagisa. At least say what you dislike about her so much. Or are you somehow referring to Tomoya x Tomoyo ? :) If it is the later, i don't think there is even a remote possibility of them ever hooking up. (And still no similarities with Ayu)

4ran
2007-12-18, 09:46
This episode was the best till now! I love Kotomi’s character. She is this the kind of people who their silence say million of things!

Reckoner
2007-12-18, 10:50
I don't see where that comparison sprung from. Hair color aside, there is nothing similar between Ayu and Nagisa. At least say what you dislike about her so much. Or are you somehow referring to Tomoya x Tomoyo ? :) If it is the later, i don't think there is even a remote possibility of them ever hooking up. (And still no similarities with Ayu)

I never made a comparison. Nagisa is far different than Ayu, I was just saying how it can't be any worse to me than when that relationship happened in Kanon (To myself). At least this relationship makes sense.

Bankai29
2007-12-18, 11:01
I think that even though i really don't like the obvious girls in animes...Nagisa can be considered...well there's something in her that is...cute...or okay.

But still I'd still be much satisfied if Tomoya hooked up w/ Kotomi/Kyou/Tomoyo...or maybe I want some love battles...:p

HayashiTakara
2007-12-18, 11:34
Ayu > Nagisa, its a fact.... I want Tomoya to end up with all the girls, and all of them mutually agreeing to share him, lol, Harem Ending FTW

gugumomu
2007-12-18, 13:24
The Dandelion Girl that novel'd be.

I am going to read it now. It's a short story.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/young2/young21.html

i just took myself the time to read the novel, and despite the fact that im especially hardheaded, and generally dont undersatnd the subtleties , i can draw some parallels between this story and Kotomi, which i would hate to see come true, because that would be a major blow(spoiler) to the storyline for me. so for the ones that haven't read the novel yet: take my advice and dont do so until the Kotomi-arc is over

Sinestra
2007-12-18, 15:26
I must say that scene with Kotomi in the library is still stuck in my head. With the wind blowing her hair and that look in her eye. It was just powerful for me at least.

bloodyknight
2007-12-18, 20:07
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/untitled-1_dia1117_kyuinjin1_kyuinj.gif

She looks seductive, isn't it?!

HayashiTakara
2007-12-18, 22:47
please tell me that Kotomi wasn't sexually abused... It'll make me cry than rage into an uncontrollable fury.

KaneDragon
2007-12-18, 23:12
please tell me that Kotomi wasn't sexually abused... It'll make me cry than rage into an uncontrollable fury.

If you mean by Kyou, Haruhi-Suzumiya-style, then very yes, evidently. :D If you mean by the Mysterious Man or something, then nevermind, no idea. :confused:

Divini
2007-12-19, 00:21
please tell me that Kotomi wasn't sexually abused... It'll make me cry than rage into an uncontrollable fury.

Hmm, I don't think you have much to worry about. Despite being socially inept, she seems to enjoy life. Also she has a friendly demeanor, despite being shy, as she was able to become friends with Tomoya, Kyou, Ryou, and Nagisa naturally. :)

kimchipride
2007-12-19, 01:00
Hmm, I don't think you have much to worry about. Despite being socially inept, she seems to enjoy life. Also she has a friendly demeanor, despite being shy, as she was able to become friends with Tomoya, Kyou, Ryou, and Nagisa naturally. :)

Bad insight...
so if you enjoy life then you haven't been sexually abused?

What about that girl from Elfen Lied. She seems to enjoy life...

Eisdrache
2007-12-19, 06:42
There was one thing that caught my attention:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7868/clannad1qu6.th.gif (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clannad1qu6.gif)

I wonder how good Ryous grades are? :)

DazarGaidin
2007-12-19, 09:26
^ Yeah i think Kyou was referring to her sister at the bus stop tho Tomo took it as meaning herself i think.

Eisdrache
2007-12-19, 10:00
Actually Kotomi should have excellent grades as well ;)

C.A.
2007-12-19, 10:13
^ Yeah i think Kyou was referring to her sister at the bus stop tho Tomo took it as meaning herself i think.Nope, it was obvious Kyou was refering to herself. She has been trying to ask Tomoya out for a date since a few episodes ago.

Being a Ryou lover, I really don't like how Kyou's actively trying to get her sister's crush.

4ran
2007-12-19, 10:21
^ Yeah i think Kyou was referring to her sister at the bus stop tho Tomo took it as meaning herself i think.

I think She was talking about herself, but in order to help her sister.. I means it is obvious that she is interesting in Tomo, but, however, she knows that her sister likes him too.. So she is probably sacrifices her love to her sister’s:)

Kinny Riddle
2007-12-19, 10:50
There was one thing that caught my attention:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7868/clannad1qu6.th.gif (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clannad1qu6.gif)

I wonder how good Ryous grades are? :)
Good enough to be class rep.

Anyway, upon rewatching, I noticed another thing.

Kanon Trivia: Someone noted that the props inside the Drama Club room box contained Mai's sword, while the magic wand belonged to Sayuri-san. (It's a KEY inside joke that Sayuri-san is a Magical Girl in secret. In fact, the cover of the Kanon OST has Sayuri-san waving the wand.

Not only does the box contains these props, but it also has both Mai and Sayuri's blue and green-checkered hair ribbons as well. Check around 5:03, just after the episode title screen.

monir
2007-12-19, 10:59
please tell me that Kotomi wasn't sexually abused... It'll make me cry than rage into an uncontrollable fury.

Hmm, I don't think you have much to worry about. Despite being socially inept, she seems to enjoy life. Also she has a friendly demeanor, despite being shy, as she was able to become friends with Tomoya, Kyou, Ryou, and Nagisa naturally. :)
Well, those reasons aren't good enough not to consider the possibility. Then again, the shows such as this usually do not dwell on complicated and touchy subject such as that particular one. I suppose we will know more about her past story in the upcoming episode.

Mirrinus
2007-12-19, 13:59
Good enough to be class rep.

Anyway, upon rewatching, I noticed another thing.

Kanon Trivia: Someone noted that the props inside the Drama Club room box contained Mai's sword, while the magic wand belonged to Sayuri-san. (It's a KEY inside joke that Sayuri-san is a Magical Girl in secret. In fact, the cover of the Kanon OST has Sayuri-san waving the wand.

Not only does the box contains these props, but it also has both Mai and Sayuri's blue and green-checkered hair ribbons as well. Check around 5:03, just after the episode title screen.

The sword's hilt isn't the same color as Mai's, and the green ribbon isn't checkered (the purple one is). But that whole Sayuri magical-girl thing does explain her character in EFZ...

Sinestra
2007-12-19, 17:25
I think She was talking about herself, but in order to help her sister.. I means it is obvious that she is interesting in Tomo, but, however, she knows that her sister likes him too.. So she is probably sacrifices her love to her sister’s:)

I thought she was really just fishing for info for her self and her sister. It obvious they both like Tomo but i do see Kyou sacrificing her affection for Tomo for her sister. But i did think she had been trying to get Tomo out on somewhat of a date thing without him really knowing its a date.

stjeppe
2007-12-20, 10:48
this was a good episode, had many laughs and i like kotomi, parts with Kyou were great too
9/10

Ascaloth
2007-12-20, 20:37
Just watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Ep11, a week later than everyone else.

PERFECT. EPISODE.

That's all I'm gonna say on the matter for now. Blog article explaining why coming soon, just hours before the Ep12 sub is going to come out. ;)

EDIT: Blog article is out:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD (TV), Episode 11 (http://www.riuva.com/?p=913)

USB500
2007-12-23, 21:43
This episode delivers. Yet more of Kotomi-chan goodness, Kanon references, Kotomi's boke practicing, Tomoya's superior imagination (me hearts Mahou Shoujo Kyou *is punched on the midsection*), blushing Kotomi in the library (as well as the rather... suggestive question/superior camera angle combo :uhoh: ), Kotomi's superiorly cute imaginations of her stand-up violin comedy :heh: (oh, wait, that's Tomoya's random dream sequences :eyespin: ) and the sudden appearance of the "bad person". Wonder how will he affect future episodes? :hmm:

And I therefore declare this to be the word of the day.

"Bonjour."

Of, course, who can ever forget this winning scene?

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7130/nandeyaneoi0.gif

:D

kissthestick
2007-12-28, 02:50
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7130/nandeyaneoi0.gif

:D
For girl who's unsocial and a genius, she does have an impressive figure:D

Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-12-29, 22:22
The episode was pretty funny, I liked the incantation Tsathoggua. Anyway's the episode was funny and her Violin skills really are WMD's, or something akin to one of the Great Old Ones ability to cause insanity. Bad Man, at the end, I wonder who it is, could be a doctor, or maybe her father? Anyways, on to ep 12!

Itadakimasu!
2008-01-08, 05:26
Question.... I think it was this episode where they mentioned the School Festival. Is it me... or didn't the school festival happen in the first arc?

aorta
2008-01-08, 13:25
Question.... I think it was this episode where they mentioned the School Festival. Is it me... or didn't the school festival happen in the first arc?

That was the Founders Festival

Khaos
2008-01-10, 10:44
Bo-n-jo-ur...OMG, that was just too cute!!
I almost died laughing at the magic wand scene. :heh:

And this gave me goosebumps...utsukushii yo!
http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08024/kotomi-moe757.jpg

Loyalkun
2008-01-22, 23:38
great episode

konstargirl
2008-07-04, 07:01
Bo-n-jo-ur...OMG, that was just too cute!!
I almost died laughing at the magic wand scene. :heh:


I know right. ^^

It was a really cute part and a really cute and cool episode. <3 At least kotomi tried to played the violin in some parts. :p