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sezen_atacan
2007-12-28, 23:17
Hello there, I am a frequent anime watcher and a sharer that always keep on top of the latest anime and RPGs.

More and more I find that most of the character's personalities from most Japanese manga, anime and RPGs seems to be more based on western culture than eastern culture. Moreover, alot of plot content are what you call a "taboo" subject in Japanese society, although more taboo to the older generation than younger generation.

RPGs or Role Playing Games from Japan deal a lot with "political corruption" and "cultural conflicts" and "racism". These things are often portrayed as wrong and bad in many anime and RPGs.

In real life Japan however, political militarism, nationalism and racism is seen as normal and okay. And for some strange reason, the "emperor" in many games is most of the time evil. But in real life Japan, the emperor is suppose to be a divine being, a being that is equivalent to god and can do no wrong.

Another thing is cultural and ethnic tolerance. Do you get annoyed sometimes when some anime characters constantly brag about how everyone should get along?? It is strange that these anime get good ratings and few bashings in Japan, even though there are "no gaijin" signs every other block or so.

Also, look up Shintaro Ishihara. Actually, Anime and RPG content, sometimes drill hard on players to think opposite of Shintaro Ishihara and be tolerant. I find it strange why Shintaro Ishihara has said nothing against Anime or why Japanese would support Shintaro Ishihara despite the fact that Ishihara supporters sometimes have a tendancy to write about things that contradict them being Ishihara supporters. Its mind numbing.

Alot of "political conspiracy themes" in more complex anime and RPGs, i.e. Xenogears and Xenosaga, has certain things such as coups, propaganda, corruption, betrayal, "evil chancellors", etc. seems to indicate the fact that some political situations may be comparable to certain areas of the Japanese Parliment and the Imperial Family of Japan.

Yet, Japanese never doubt their government and believe that no propaganda exists. I think it might have to do with religon, experience and "elderly peoples". The Diet and their Tenno Heika, is suppose to be pure to the point where to view them as "corrupted" is a taboo.

What I am trying to say is that for a almost ultra-nationalistic society to right about things that can brand one as a "traitor", or is seen as a "sin". It is as out of character as to having lets say Hermann Goering promoting multiculturalism and ethnic tolerance.

Actually to find an anime or RPG that has the main characters that act and talk like the forum posters on 2chan is a rare sight to behold. Not that there aren't any, just not much. And of course any "nazi like" content will never get translated or imported into western nations. Manga like the "Hate Korean Wave" series I heard, if sold in Germany today will result in legal action against the seller selling it in Germany.

Oh Yes another Taboo is Capcom's past shooter games involving the "infamous battle of midway" where you play as an American pilot fighting all the way to Tokyo and if you beat the game you are even awarded with the American anthem.

So far I have yet to see any Japanese or Ishihara bashing Capcom for this because WWII is a Taboo subject that the Diet or Parliment that would like the populace to believe that WWII did not happen or something like that.

For a country with so many people like Ishihara Shintaro, I find it unusual why they haven't made an anime's or games like "Little Adolf's journey" or something.

For people who know of "Tales of Symphonia". If Ishihara Shintaro is the director of this game, well..... some of the main characters would be portrayed negatively and may eventually face extermination because interracial ideologies is highly taboo in Japan. Pelted with "no gaijin" signs, Yasakuni worshiping of Class A warcriminals, WWII crime denial, racial superiority stuff etc. makes you wonder if most of the Japanese material is even made in Japan because of the difference between its content and the reality of the society. Oh there is also Nazi cosplay in Japan too. Just google it.

Sorry no offence, but I just find Anime out of character and hardly resembling the Japanese such as those on 2chan. Pro-multicultural and Pro-multiracial relationships in anime are things that make Japanese society cringe, its a suprise how they put up with it though. The "hate korean wave" thingy also contradicts with many other Manga and Anime content too.

Last thing, I think Ishihara Shintaro must hate Higurashi anime. But I won't spoil it hehe.........

Sorry but I am just getting some wierd picture of Japan here. If I am misunderstand then can you please explain too me then??

Vexx
2007-12-28, 23:47
There are so many things wrong with the OP's post in errors and misunderstandings about Japan's culture and people that I hardly know where to begin. Sweeping generalizations that simply do not pan out are one facet of nearly every statement, as are characterizations that are simply innccurate.

You might as well have said all Americans are Texan and therefore say, "Yeehaw" and "noo-cle-ur", are redneck, and have an oil well. Each of the things you say might be true of a particular sub-demographic (like, say, wrinkled rightwing wingnuts that even the Imperial Family distance themselves from) or one thing might be true for one demographic but not another. The "2chan" group is a very small population of people... some of whom might ought to be on medication, so one should be wary of drawing any generalizations of the greater population from them.

There are almost as many versions of Shinto as there are Japanese and most of them don't include the period in which Shinto was hijacked by the state for fascist purposes leading up to WW2. Core tenets of Shinto are even more amiable than Buddhism in some aspects.


"Most" adult japanese just don't *watch* anime much. A great many members of all age groups are known to read manga, though what appeals to one age group might not to another.

aohige
2007-12-28, 23:50
Only thing I find offensive in RPGs that we make is the total lack of innovation in the past several years.

SERIOUSLY.

Look to overseas, mainly PC market in US and Euro, the RPG (as well as RTS, MMO, etc) market is ripe of great ideas, designs, immersiveness, and fun. Look back at my country, and it's full of same shit that has gotten old and boring for years.

WE DON'T NEED YET ANOTHER TALES GAME, do you hear me NAMCO? Release a good one every few years, not like FIVE dime-a-dozen one every year. Sheesh. Oh, and Square-Enix, please... Get your head out of your own ass. We need more games like Kingdom Hearts, not another dozen REMAKE of FF and DQ. Ye listening?

*ahem*

Oh, and the post?
I'm sorry, I didn't bother to read all of it. Can you be more "to-the-point" and concise? :heh:
To answer your question in short, no. Japanese aren't flocks of maschistic morons that creates offensive stuff for themselves to enjoy. :rolleyes:

shiorey
2007-12-29, 00:03
[QUOTE=sezen_atacan;1318091]Hello there, I am a frequent anime watcher and a sharer that always keep on top of the latest anime and RPGs.

And for some strange reason, the "emperor" in many games is most of the time evil. But in real life Japan, the emperor is suppose to be a divine being, a being that is equivalent to god and can do no wrong.

It's the same concept as aizen on bleach he is suposed to be nice and caring and loving *so u think* untill on episode whare everyone finds out he is the exact oposite and reveals he is the ruler of the hollows,and arancar.and in real life japan the emporor rly is nice but sometimes controling.

Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-29, 00:20
Here's the simple answer: Fiction is not reality.


Also, most Japanese are central conservatives, unlike the vocal loud extremists that gets all the spotlight.

tripperazn
2007-12-29, 01:27
2chan representing Japan...lol. That's the same thing as saying 4chan is an accurate sampling of the US population, if that can better illustrate your error.

Ignoring the cultural inaccuracies (the emperor still considered a divine being??? that's like saying the queen of England is considered part God today because her ancestors declared divine right monarchy...), why would you want to play games/watch anime that is close to reality? You do these things to escape reality.

Aoie_Emesai
2007-12-29, 01:43
It's just Stereotype, and that word sure does convenience people that's what a certain demographic area behave lile.

xris
2007-12-29, 03:45
Sorry but I am just getting some wierd picture of Japan here. If I am misunderstand then can you please explain too me then??

There are so many things wrong with the OP's post in errors and misunderstandings about Japan's culture and people that I hardly know where to begin. Sweeping generalizations that simply do not pan out are one facet of nearly every statement, as are characterizations that are simply innccurate.
Sorry but as Vexx stated, you have so many things wrong here that leaving the thread open to try and correct you misunderstanding is rather a waste of time I'm afraid. I suggest you try and work them out for yourself. Thread closed.