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I read about it on animenfo and it almost seems that this series has some similarities with Juuni Kokki. Now the thing is that I really loved Juuni Kokki and if this series is even a fraction of what Juuni Kokki is I think Ill have to check it out. But now comes the big question, is this series any good? And is it anything like Juuni Kokki? Hit me with everything youve got! ;)
NenMaster
2003-11-09, 16:41
the reviews put me off this anime. i download it all then looked at some eps then deleted it :)
i should of watched at least 5 eps of it but couldnt be arsed
Fushigi Yugi can't be compared to Juuni Kokki in my opinion. If u like romance/fantasy you'll like it. The only thing I really hated in this show is that 50% of the script is composed of "Miaka" and"Tamahome". How many god damn times do they have to say that in FRONT of each other.
Rebochan
2003-11-09, 18:50
Fushigi Yuugi has always, to me, seemed like a "love it or hate it" series. When I was at JACON in Orlando this year, Miaka managed to beat Relena Peacecraft as the worst anime character created in one of their gameshow polls. Yet, several of my anime friends utterly worship this show, and one even put together a Miaka cosplay.
Hmm... So is it more romance oriented or is it more fantasy oriented or is it something else? What Im after is an anime with believable characters and interesting storyline.
Go-lytely
2003-11-09, 20:01
It is definitely a romance oriented anime at its core. There are also a lot of superdeformed scenes that bugged the hell out of me. It was supposed to be funny but it just annoyed me. The storyline wasn't bad but I personally thought they dragged it out too long. IMO, Juuni Kokki and Fushigi Yuugi dont really compare.
Well you can put me in the "like" camp for Fushigi Yuugi. But as
mentioned before, it indeed isn't much like Juuni Kokki apart from
the old-Chinese settings.
Also whereas Juuni Kokki has a more general appeal (afaik, I haven't
seen much of Juuni Kokki), Fushigi Yuugi is definately "shoujo"
(targeted at girls).
If you can stand Miaka's voice (she's voiced by the same Japanese
voice as Chibi-usa from Sailor Moon), the superdeformed scenes
(I like them in fact, as long as there are not to many), and
the "Miaka, Tamahome, Miaka, Tamahome" parts you may like it.
I liked the series there were alot of emotional scenes..heh...From what you said you wanted I dont think this is an anime you are looking for. I think you will like it but If you want a realistic romance anime try Marmalade Boy or His and Her Circumstances.
Seems like this anime isnt what Im looking for, thats really too bad since Juuni Kokki really made an impression on me so I really want more of anime of that type. But is this anime set in an old chinese setting just like Juuni Kokki was? I really love that setting, have seen many many chinese live action series/movies that takes place in that setting since I was a kid. Hmm maybe I have to check this out after all...
Dark Zero
2003-11-10, 23:51
I remember seeing this on VHS back in the day, unless I'm confusing the wrong one. Seemed interesting, but I feel asleep through out it, so I got a wrong impression of it since then. But seems worth a watch.
hmmm, seems odd to come to a forum discussing old titles compared to new ones... if anything I can see why some would call Juuni Kokki similar or even a copy of Fushigi Yuugi. Both had a couple females being transported to another world - only to find that the one was an empress who was to save the one of many kingdoms - and her friend became empress of an enemy kingdom to fight her, but she was in love with Tamahome and that was one of her main reasons for fighting her best friend. The similarities end there though. Yes the setting is "like" ancient China, and there is more martial arts in it. Miaka's tale was of gathering her protectors - each had a birthmark of their name given by the heavens... she too wanted the power so she could return home. This is an older classic as far as anime goes. Say what you will now, but before Juuni Kokki, what was there of such scope???? Fushigi Yuugi. The love story does take much of the episodes time. The 2 other series based off it also followed the love story side. So Fushigi Yuugi has plenty of comedy and plenty of lovestory, but it does have it's very serious side as well. Wars and politics were not a focus and much of the fighting took place among their protectors, rather than armies.
the ONLY similarity between JK and FY is that they both involve a girl being sucked into another world, having to save that world, blah blah.
if i had a dvd of FY, i would personally vomit on it daily. good god i hate that show.
The only thing I really hated in this show is that 50% of the script is composed of "Miaka" and"Tamahome". How many god damn times do they have to say that in FRONT of each other.
OH MY GOD YES.
i seriously don't see how anyone can watch FY. after 10 goddamn episodes of screaming "TAMAHOME!!!!!" "MIAKA!!!!!!" <insert cheesy same old music riff here>, i just cant see how it could continue for another FORTY-TWO.
okashi, seriously. unless you like really, really sappy romances, don't bother with this one.. try to find stuff with more substance like JK. when i say sappy romance, i mean ridiculous love triangles, constant over-use of romance and/or love involving a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD (or is she 15? doesn't matter. it still is totaly unbelievable). not only was it incredibly over the top in this aspect, but after 26 episodes, they then continue it with the same rehashed melodramatic BS. i kept watching it hoping it would eventually change. did it? nope!
but, just so i say *one* good thing about it, it did have a decent ending.
besides that, a waste of time. Juuni Kokki however, is damn good.
FY does NOT have believable characters. i refuse to enjoy any series which is focused on young teenagers "falling in love with the right person" after they have known them for all of 2 days. not to mention, miaka is a complete ditz.
if you want a good romance/drama, check out Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.. or one of the many other ones out there instead. or if you want fantasy, there are really good ones out there. watching FY is like stabbing yourself in the eyes with an estrogen encrusted fork, over and over and over. >_<
the ONLY similarity between JK and FY is that they both involve a girl being sucked into another world, having to save that world, blah blah.
if i had a dvd of FY, i would personally vomit on it daily. good god i hate that show.
OH MY GOD YES.
i seriously don't see how anyone can watch FY. after 10 goddamn episodes of screaming "TAMAHOME!!!!!" "MIAKA!!!!!!" <insert cheesy same old music riff here>, i just cant see how it could continue for another FORTY-TWO.
okashi, seriously. unless you like really, really sappy romances, don't bother with this one.. try to find stuff with more substance like JK. when i say sappy romance, i mean ridiculous love triangles, constant over-use of romance and/or love involving a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD (or is she 15? doesn't matter. it still is totaly unbelievable). not only was it incredibly over the top in this aspect, but after 26 episodes, they then continue it with the same rehashed melodramatic BS. i kept watching it hoping it would eventually change. did it? nope!
but, just so i say *one* good thing about it, it did have a decent ending.
besides that, a waste of time. Juuni Kokki however, is damn good.
FY does NOT have believable characters. i refuse to enjoy any series which is focused on young teenagers "falling in love with the right person" after they have known them for all of 2 days. not to mention, miaka is a complete ditz.
if you want a good romance/drama, check out Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.. or one of the many other ones out there instead. or if you want fantasy, there are really good ones out there. watching FY is like stabbing yourself in the eyes with an estrogen encrusted fork, over and over and over. >_<
Hehe, nice post. ;)
I love Juuni Kokki and thats why I wanted to check out Fushigi Yuugi, but the impression I get from you guys is that this show maybe nothing for me. Im not the romance-type person so I dont think Ill go out and buy this series... Maybe download it sometimes though just to check it out. Well are there any other series that are like Juuni Kokki then? 'Cause thats essentially what Im looking for.
Juuni Kokki, unfortunately, is a really hard series to give recommendations on. i have never watched anything else that rivals the level of deep plot it has. in addition, it tends to be mostly serious, and very historically based. honestly, i have seen nothing else like it. i think people are quick to say it is similar to FY (including me, sometimes), because that is the only thing out there that even comes close. but even then, it's only because it has a girl who gets sucked into another world... which, really, isn't that big of a tie to begin with.
i mean, i could give try to give you an idea of some good fantasy series, or something... but honestly, i don't think anyone will be able to give you a good match for JK... so good, yet so unique, unfortunately. :/
Juuni Kokki, unfortunately, is a really hard series to give recommendations on. i have never watched anything else that rivals the level of deep plot it has. in addition, it tends to be mostly serious, and very historically based. honestly, i have seen nothing else like it. i think people are quick to say it is similar to FY (including me, sometimes), because that is the only thing out there that even comes close. but even then, it's only because it has a girl who gets sucked into another world... which, really, isn't that big of a tie to begin with.
i mean, i could give try to give you an idea of some good fantasy series, or something... but honestly, i don't think anyone will be able to give you a good match for JK... so good, yet so unique, unfortunately. :/
Yeah I thought as much, cant be easy to create something on Juuni Kokki's level. I guess we just have to keep praying that there will be more Juuni Kokki in the near future.
I've only seen 5 episodes of Juuni Kokki so people please correct me if I'm wrong, but
First of all, while I like Fushigi Yuugi, I think the whole style and atmosphere of the 2 are completely different so if you like one, there is zero guarentee you'd like the other. While, FY is funny and sweet and dramatic, a good deal of the characters are NOT realistic (there are a few exceptions) and the Miaka Tamahome deal is the type of romance where it makes you think romance must eat your brain away as much as drugs and alcohol....
(I still like FY, the romance is a bit ....soap operatic though)
Second of all, and this is where I welcome the correction, since I've only seen so much Junni Kokki, a better recommendation to try is perhaps Escaflowne. There you can see the effect of perspectives that people have and feeling...desperation, strong belief, deception and delusion, and confusion of feeling... the story, one of my favorites, is strong and interesting with no perfect good hearted characters (ie. like Miaka who feels for everyone). You can honestly see the characters as individuals with their own individual pasts, thoughts, feelings, etc.
However, the Escaflowne movie, I should warn you, should never have spawned into existence. It is a bane of anime, as they took everything good from the series, and destroyed it. It bears very little relation to the series as well, except commonality of character names, IMHO.
I've only seen 5 episodes of Juuni Kokki so people please correct me if I'm wrong, but
First of all, while I like Fushigi Yuugi, I think the whole style and atmosphere of the 2 are completely different so if you like one, there is zero guarentee you'd like the other. While, FY is funny and sweet and dramatic, a good deal of the characters are NOT realistic (there are a few exceptions) and the Miaka Tamahome deal is the type of romance where it makes you think romance must eat your brain away as much as drugs and alcohol....
(I still like FY, the romance is a bit ....soap operatic though)
Second of all, and this is where I welcome the correction, since I've only seen so much Junni Kokki, a better recommendation to try is perhaps Escaflowne. There you can see the effect of perspectives that people have and feeling...desperation, strong belief, deception and delusion, and confusion of feeling... the story, one of my favorites, is strong and interesting with no perfect good hearted characters (ie. like Miaka who feels for everyone). You can honestly see the characters as individuals with their own individual pasts, thoughts, feelings, etc.
However, the Escaflowne movie, I should warn you, should never have spawned into existence. It is a bane of anime, as they took everything good from the series, and destroyed it. It bears very little relation to the series as well, except commonality of character names, IMHO.
Ive seen both the Escaflowne series and the movie and I agree that the movie isnt anywhere near as good as the TV series. But while the movie wasnt good, I found the first battle on that ship in the air really cool. But I think that Juuni Kokki cant be compared to Escaflowne since Escaflowne is more about action and less about characters or something (long time ago since I watched it) while Juuni Kokki is more about the world and the stories in and about that world with Youko at the center. I find Juuni Kokki much superior against Escaflowne because of the characters and story. That world just feels so real for some reason...
*small spoilers, scroll past end to read overview*
IMO it may be worth seeing, but not worth owning. I borrowed the VHSes from a friend the summer before last and watched all 40+ eps in 2 days. Basically, they could have ended the show at 26, but decided to make it twice as long, so they do the same thing twice. I really didn't like the end, and I think the OVAs suck (there are like 3).
Looking back on it, I don't really like the constant(every 2 eps) theme of the girls ALMOST getting raped. I also like to see the characters progress and get stronger/change, but most of the celestial warriors are static it seems. Its a good love story, but I'll never watch it again, and I doubt you'll get the same enjoyment per episode that you would from other series. The reason I say this is because it jerks you around so much that its difficult to enjoy it, and you just feel like these people are stupid for doing this and this and this(like when problems could have easily been solved if people just talked about it, but instead they don't and just do stupid isht), just hurry up and do what you need to do and get to the end. An example of people not talking would be when the old wise lady tells the main male character not to get too close to the main female character, when in reality she could have just said don't have sex because she has to be a virgin so she can summon the saint beast Suzaku to grant her wish. This causes tons of problems because hes pushing her away then shes pushing him away and she does something stupid later on which leads to the first thing I talked about in the paragraph....
I also hate how they constantly have to protect Miaka (main female character). She never really adapts to the times and learns how to fight or anything (which includes not being stupid and staying out of trouble), and I think this is one of the dumbest parts of the series IMO. Shes stuck in feudal China, ALWAYS in constant danger and under attack, yet she remains a stupid little girl who pseudo-commically eats alot (and thinks about food at the wrong times) and makes lots of dangerous decisions to continue moving the stupid plot along.
*end*
In conclusion:
1) Not worth owning
2) Worth seeing if you like love stories
3) Not worth seeing if you like Naruto/Gundam type stories, with characters that can change drastically and "power up"
4) Not worth seeing if you hate the possibility of people getting raped
5) Not worth seeing if you dislike the plot being driven mostly by misscommunication and lack of information between the characters
6) Not worth seeing if you dislike a weak female character who ALWAYS needs to be protected and cannot defend herself, yet almost tries to get herself killed.
7) Not worth seeing more than once
LuciaMelody
2003-12-16, 12:01
Its ....soooo.....loooooong! They just dragged it out. ANd as someone pointed out before most of the episodes are the 2 main characters saying each others names..."Miaaaaka!" "Tamahoome!!"
Miaka is a super magnet for all the troubles of the universe. Everyepisode she gets herself in trouble...nonstop >_<
But uh....yeah, the art is very pretty.....and the story is good....would be good....if condensed.
Miaka has a very annoying voice, esp in a dubbed version. and she is um not too smart. *looks out for the miaka fans*
Its definitely love it or hate it series - if u r not absolutly in love with Miaka and adore Tomahome - then dont watch it.
stingray
2003-12-22, 07:40
i think i'm 1 of the few guys that liked the series. i marathoned it 1 whole weekend way back when it was fansubbed on VHS (and when i had that much free time to do nothing). had like a 3-4th gen VHS condensed copy of it. even so it was at least 5-6 6hr tapes. fansubbers name is on the tip of my tongue...argh...well anyway....
*SPOILER ALERT* (highlight to read; edit: uhh...not sure how to clear it so it doesn't show up unless highlighted)
i liked it when all the characters died. by that time, you've invested enough emotion into them to somewhat care for them.
didn't start getting "good" till yui (main character's best friend) thought she got raped (though she's retarded to not know she didn't actually get raped. i'd assume women aren't that naive about their bodies to not know someone penetrated them). maybe cause it's the first anime i've seen that even dealt w/ rape (that didn't involve tentacles) that got me interested in the series.
it might be worth watching if you like romance fantasy. some of it is a bit drawn out.
i think i'm 1 of the few guys that liked the series. i marathoned it 1 whole weekend way back when it was fansubbed on VHS (and when i had that much free time to do nothing). had like a 3-4th gen VHS condensed copy of it. even so it was at least 5-6 6hr tapes. fansubbers name is on the tip of my tongue...argh...well anyway....
i liked it when all the characters died. by that time, you've invested enough emotion into them to somewhat care for them.
didn't start getting "good" till yui (main character's best friend) thought she got raped (though she's retarded to not know she didn't actually get raped. i'd assume women aren't that naive about their bodies to not know someone penetrated them). maybe cause it's the first anime i've seen that even dealt w/ rape (that didn't involve tentacles) that got me interested in the series.
it might be worth watching if you like romance fantasy. some of it is a bit drawn out.
Umm.... Those sounds like major spoilers, I havent watched the series but it feels as if I already know everything about them. :(
LuciaMelody
2003-12-22, 15:23
Um....I was looking at this post again...is Juuni Kokki a japanese name for 12 kingdoms?
Lol!!! Cause I was about to recommend you them (I only watched the begining) and then realized that I think thats the same thing.....^^'
If it is - I have a recomendation for ya!!
Magic Knights Rayearth! I think (from what I've seen) Its the closest to it!! And its really really good!
This is gonna sound like a real newb question (and I not really a newb), but is Fushigi Yuugi licensed (the TV series). I was looking at the Grand Licensing list and it doesn't show up there- only the OVA does. Any help would be appreciated- thanks
BanditKing
2004-07-02, 23:40
This is gonna sound like a real newb question (and I not really a newb), but is Fushigi Yuugi licensed (the TV series). I was looking at the Grand Licensing list and it doesn't show up there- only the OVA does. Any help would be appreciated- thanks
yeah its license and its all release by Geneon.
They are about to rerelease it under a new price.
it's been licensed for many years, it's even appeared on the International Channel before
and there's really no point to licensing an OVA that wouldn't make a lick of sense w/o the TV series
thanks for your help- I was just surprised to see that the animeondvd list was that incomplete
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/324.php
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/325.php
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/1500.php
http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/1500.php
Come on, it wasn't that hard!
hentai_wolf
2004-07-03, 00:54
The Grand High Licensing List only goes back to around 2001 or so. I actually wish they would clear out the stuff that's been completely released so there's less clutter.
thanks for your help- I was just surprised to see that the animeondvd list was that incomplete
It was never meant to be a list of all anime commercially released :uhoh: It was started to list anime titles that were licensed and would be released in the future. They didn't include any titles that were already released when the list started (Fushigi Yuugi being one of them).
Of course, a quick search in amazon.com, rightstuf.com, animenation.com or any other online anime store could easily have answered your question.
This anime is a bit soapie, but it's cool. I chose Tasuki, he rulez!
Mr_Paper
2004-09-08, 10:01
I voted Chichiri (the guy with the mask, I think).
I just love his happy-go-lucky attitude and the comedic manner he uses to deal with problems. You also can't forget the "no da" he adds to the end of every sentence. ^^
It's Chichiri, no da! ^^ Chichiri rulez too, and Nuriko, but you can only vote for one...-_-;
Ahh, Fushigi Yuugi. <3 The anime that made me fall in love with anime.
My favorite is close between Hotohori, Nuriko, and Tasuki... but Hotohori wins. <3 I love how honorable and polite he acts~
And my least favorite is Miaka. ^_^; I think she and Tamahome were annoying... ^^;
considering the entire cast was male, and i'm straight, so as far as these characters go, i obviously don't like them "in that way"
my favorite is Tasuki, he's the most normal of ALL of them
and one of 3 who don't die
Mainly his personality is a lot more direct than the other characters, who are all annoying bishounen (Yuu Watase can't write men very well, for instance, not every man would be attracted to a whiny middle school student with the intelligence of a lump of coal, given the choice between the girls of Fushigi Yuugi, i'd pick Yui over Miaka any day of the week, even if she is a bitch, at least she doesn't whine half as much as miaka)
DrWho2002
2004-09-09, 00:10
Mitsukake. Nuff said.
Right, I don't get why the names have to be repeated so much.
Miaka goes "Hotohori, Tamahome!" like 100 times in one ep, like if ppl forgot their names or something >_>.
MitsuKiske
2007-04-26, 12:03
WOW! Dead thread ><... Well IMO I loved the anime.... It was awsome and my fave characters are Hotohori and Tamahome. If I were to be miaka I would so have chosen to be with Hotohori because he is so handsome. I was so into the story that when Miaka was sad so was I, when any one of the suzaku seshi died I would cry with the rest. I even cried at the end.... such a sad yet wonderful show... I Loved it and I still watch it over again... I have also picked uop the next series of the manga FY.
I liked the show but one character really took it down a couple of notches.
Miaka has to be one of the most frustarting persons ever.
She is so naive, so stupid and can't actually do anything herself except getting her or the others into trouble.
She never ever thinks ahead, is extremly illogical and doesn't ever seem to understand what kind of trouble she is in or that there are many out there who wants to kill her. Totally obilivious of the dangers out there and the fact she has to be on her guard always makes her even more frustrating.
She really drags this show down since I think all the other characters are ok or good.
TheGreenLeaf
2007-07-29, 18:18
Chichiri all the way. He's so cute, and POWERFUL!
As much as I enjoyed this anime, it got old with how many times Miaka ran straight into trouble, and how someone would always have to rescue her. Yui's bigger part in the show later on really refreshed my liking for this anime.
miakaxtamahome
2008-02-02, 18:13
i really love this anime this is my favorite anime ever for romance!!!!:):):)
i've seen this when i was 6 but i ddn't finish it thogh it got disbanded in phil,
and after 6 years i saw the whole sereis in animax!!!:D:D i'm so glad it got aired:)
and ive' seen the whole ova in it, itwas so goooood, if you haven't watch this anime, u should i would recomend this for you, if your interested in romance that have too much passion...:):):)
Tsukasa27
2008-04-27, 21:57
Ok, i just finished watching this show a few weeks ago and i thought it was not bad...
Strong point: Definitely the music, the OST is really great and you could tell from the anime that the music was high-quality although they could have used more and better tracks.
Weak point: I would say the transition between serious and comedy moments felt awkward quite a few times...I'm not really going into details but sometimes the show geared toward adult themes just to turn back or insert goofy moments out of the blue...It would have been better to keep those moments tense in my opinion.
Overall, an enjoyable show if you have the time for a 52-episode show.
ps: Some people label it as Shoujo, i agree that the show will probably appeal more to girls than boys, but again there is something in it for guys too so i wouldn't call it shoujo even though the guys are drawn to look pretty...
I cant believe all the positive posts about this anime... i mean the animation quality is just bad, the characters are plain and boring and the story is childish. So many things doesnt make sense like for example.. one of the emperor's wife is a man and even worse... he is gay and likes the emperor -.-
I wont rate this anime since i coudnt finish it but it definitly cant get over 5 out of 10 -.-
konstargirl
2008-10-21, 05:47
OMG A fushigi yuugi thread. :D
Anyway I love Nuriko and Chichiri. They are my favorite characters. :3
I was one of those people who loved Fushigi Yuugi in the beginning. I remember when it came on vhs back in the late 90s and I had been so into the show. I grew older and forgot my love for FY and had even became kind of hostile to it. For years I hadnt seen past episode 7 and then I saw it randomly on AZN and sat down for a quick look.
I was not impressed.
Of course this was pretty far into the story so I wasnt really caught up or anything, but it looked like more of the same.
I decided randomly one day to just buy it so I could say I had seen it.
And I couldnt put the damn thing down.
I mean sure the "Miaka!" x "Tomahome!" every couple of seconds is a tad annoying, but there's a story underneath all that fluff. Nuriko is an excellent character when his true character shines through, and Tasuki is a fun diversion from the emotional turmoil.
So I guess all that i'm saying is, dont just give it 10 episodes to see if you like it. You may be like me and need to watch a decent amount before you can get into it, but it can be a pretty awesome show if you let it.
I watched the first 3 episodes, then did 2 or 3 "jumps" without finding anything interesting and then watched the last episode... and still didnt like it.
The reasons i didnt like this series is its ultra-boring / bad script, silly characters and the animation style. Also i dont really like animes where there is only one girl surrounded by guys -.-
justinstrife
2008-10-30, 01:57
I downloaded the series a few years ago and marathoned it in a week. Then I went out and bought the DVD boxsets for the series and OVA's. It was in my top 10, but over the past 5 years as I've seen another 100+ shows, it's gotten pushed back into my top 20 spot.
It's definitely not for everybody. You'll either love it or hate it. Sometimes I liked Miaka, other times I hoped she'd just drown in a lake.
Overall I'd give it an 8.0/10 for my own personal opinion.
It pretty much hits everything I like in a story, paced it just the way I like it, tells the kind of story I like. I loved all the characters (some more than others), loved the humor, I was never bored and liked it more each time I watched it. Basically its my favorite anime ever. I suppose there are better anime out there, but personally, I can't find one better suited to my tastes than Fushigi Yuugi. Easily a 10/10 from me.
justinstrife
2008-10-30, 11:21
You should give Ayashi no Ceres a try. It's by the same manga writer who did Fushigi Yuugi.
xxraffieskieexx
2009-02-16, 19:43
wiw!! i love fushigi yuugi!!! :] it's the first anime' i really loved so much!! Well, it may seem boring to others but I like it because It's a really touching love story and a story about friendship.. XD
I just don't like the part where Miaka is always liked by the guys.. hahah!!:D
christine_cute
2009-03-17, 06:29
Has anyone seen fushigi yuugi OVA eikoden?
Its the last ova and has a happy ending in which miaka lives a happy married life with Tamahome.
KimmyChan
2009-03-27, 08:51
I've always loved Miaka in this great series :)
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