[Manga] Favorite Awakened Being [Archive]

NoSanninWa

2008-01-09, 04:37

Vote for your favourite Ascended Being. You may vote for as many characters as you desire, but you may only vote once. Vote for all your favorites at the same time because you cannot come back to add a vote for another character or delete your vote. The poll is public, so votes will be visible to everyone.

This poll is for the manga so you may be spoiled if you have not read the manga. If you feel that someone's character was different in the anime and manga, please treat them as separate people and vote based on their manga version only.

Thread Rules
No campaigning for votes.
This means to avoid posting things such as "Vote for..." or "Do not vote for..." since they will be deleted. Please discuss why you do or don't like characters without campaigning for votes.

Do not insult or harass other members for their choices.
Please remember that this is for fun. Do not take it so seriously that you end up in an argument with another forum member merely because they expressed a fondness for a character whom you loathe. Discussion and good spirited banter is always welcome, but harassing other people won't be tolerated.

Have fun, but post intelligently.
The whole point is to have fun, but please try your best to add substance with what you post to make your thoughts interesting for the generation of fans that will follow after you're long gone and moved on to watch some other series.

BTW, while most of the characters are quite recognizable from their images in the poll, here are a few that really need larger images.

KateaJeanAgathaRosemary
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PS. This poll owes a lot to the community of this forum for making it happen. Thanks to everyone for helping to make this poll so great. Your work here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=60529) was very appreciated.

NoSanninWa

2008-01-09, 04:49

Incidently, I included Jean in the poll, but not Clare. That simply seemed to be the overall view of our members as filtered through my perceptions. If you want a justification: Jean did fully transform into an ascended being for a brief time, but Clare never fully transformed. More seriously though, the reason is that Clare doesn't really belong here since she's the main character and Jean has a ton of fans who love her form as an ascended being separately from who she is as a Claymore.

Anima

2008-01-09, 06:46

Ah, at last! Maybe you could add Rosemary to the list of pictures there as her avatar up there isn't really an indicator of how she looks.

I voted for:
- Jean (why of course) :p
- Female AB
- Ophelia
- Alicia
- Isley
- Rosermary

I admit my main criteria for voting was the looks (and it was my intention of brining the whole idea of this poll) but form some of them, their personality did interfere in my voting.

First of all, the whole AB mentality change is really puzzling to me. We've seen those who totally lost it and those who seem to be quiet aware of their selves like Riful who suggested that the difference between an AB and a regular claymore is where their conscious sides (beside devouring humans that is :D)

Now, Jean is a tricky one, while her body fully awakened, she kept her human mind through sheer willpower and I admire her for that unlike other ABs who totally lost it even before fully awakening. I think her AB form is wicked and it makes me wonder if she has completely gone to the yoma side and fought in her form how would she fight. Would she fly? and I wonder what attacks might she has in her arsenal. All in all, Jean is an awesome char and that did influence my voting.

- Female AB: well, looks I suppose was the only reason xD

- Ophelia: O' my dear Ophelia. I despised her so much at first but I grew to love her actually after her sacrifice. Her AB form is ok and totally Lamia inspired. Her giving up her life when she realized she has awakened boosted her points for me greatly and makes me wonder if she cares so much for not being a monster why did she willingly become a monster when she was a claymore?! I guess it all comes to the human nature of not appreciating something unless it was taken from you and that was the choice which Ophelia lost so sacrificing herself was so human to me. Kudos for Ophelia!

- Alicia: she looks very dangerous and the first claymore to awaken while having her human mind and heart in check thanks to soul link. While I know that the org didn't create her just to protect humans against the abyssal ones in case they went on rampage, what counts is that she can rival them now although I have that feeling that Beth might lose control in one of the fight because of some sort of interruption be it physical like getting slashed or by yoki alignment interference.

- Isley: for looks only and I actually hate him very much because he is a complete monster in all aspects.

- Rosemary: Poor Rosemary, has it not been for Teresa, I have the feeling that she might have been the fourth Abyssal one. Whether she lost it like Priscilla and become totally clueless or not is something that will surely influence my opinion of her but glad that wasn't fully explored or if she was like the case of Priscilla, I would revoke my vote. when I first saw her fully awakened form I was like "OMG, that's Ultima Weapon from Final Fantasy 8! :3" in terms of looks, she looks badass IMO.

and I will be back to discuss those I haven't voted for later.

P.S. Alas Clare wasn't added but I understand. Thanks for the poll, NoSanninWa. :)

evil_kenshin

2008-01-09, 06:51

i've voted for

- Priscilla
- Riful
- Dauf
- Jean
- Rigardo
- Alicia
- Isley
- Luciela
- Agatha

mr criteria for voting was based on : looks/awesomeness and their role in the story also if they were interesting or not

i honestly can't see many of the no name's getting votes, as the only one of any real importance was the 6 arms guy

Shiryuu

2008-01-09, 09:28

My votes are based mostly on looks...
Prisicilla/Isley... see favorite anime character poll.
Riful... sharp hair is cool.
Luciela... I like cats? Her human form is pretty hot though.
Alicia... badass especially with the black uniform.

i honestly can't see many of the no name's getting votes, as the only one of any real importance was the 6 arms guy
Same. They look lame too. :/

Also, isn't it supposed to be "Awakened Being"?

Negativedark

2008-01-09, 11:08

If I voted for looks, I'd probably have hit everyone on the list. Instead I opted to limit it to 3.

1- Riful, Great design, and a unique one. All those black strips make her a unique monster, and she has an interesting persoanlity. Really needs to work on how she makes friends though. Also one half the best awakened couple.
2- Isley. Looks played a major role. I always think of his transformed state as a Castlevania boss. Also another one with an interesting personality. And with his releationships with Priscilla and Raki, he will definitly influence the main plot.
3- The other half of the best couple, Dauf. Big and dumb, he's dangrous because he's so strong, but at least you can fool him. Plus he has that relationship with Riful.

Runners up, who I didn't quite vote for were the fallen angel Priscilla, the Catgirl from hell Luciela, and the crazy, yet tragic Ophilia.

Zu Ra

2008-01-09, 14:38

I think this thread needs to be stickied . I would hate , if this thread to gets lost in the cluster after all the effort we put into making it .

I voted for Isley Priscilla and Riful

RWBladewing

2008-01-09, 17:17

I'd probably have hated myself for saying this a few months ago, and I think I even posted his name in a "Your most hated characters" thread, but Rigardo is now my clear favorite. He was the epitome of "ownage" in the few episodes he was in, and his qualities can be summed up in just one word: Superb.

I also voted Riful for her attitude, random yoki manipulator guy for his cool design and funny voice in the anime, and Dauf because someone had to.

Edit: Wow, nevermind, Dauf actually has one of the highest totals at the moment. Didn't see that coming.

NoSanninWa

2008-01-09, 17:33

Ah, at last! Maybe you could add Rosemary to the list of pictures there as her avatar up there isn't really an indicator of how she looks.Quite true. Done.

Also, isn't it supposed to be "Awakened Being"?Oh! Silly me! Fix0rd.

I think this thread needs to be stickied . I would hate , if this thread to gets lost in the cluster after all the effort we put into making it . I understand the feeling. Personally I thought it was amazing the way that the community came together to help produce this thread. I appreciate the list of ABs that was made and I really loved all the work that everyone put into those avatars. I've added a note of appreciation for that into the first post.

So, if anyone would like to help create a favorite manga character poll - you now know how.

Edit: Wow, nevermind, Dauf actually has one of the highest totals at the moment. Didn't see that coming.Actually plenty of characters have as many votes as Dauf. He's just not near the bottom. So far the runaway winners are Riful and Isley, but I doubt anyone is surprised about that.

RWBladewing

2008-01-09, 17:50

Quite true. Done.

Actually plenty of characters have as many votes as Dauf. He's just not near the bottom. So far the runaway winners are Riful and Isley, but I doubt anyone is surprised about that.

Well yeah, I wasn't saying "lol Dauf is owning all you noobs he has a million votes", just commenting that his vote count technically puts him near the top, even if he is tied with several others. Figured it deserved a mention since he's tied or one vote away from Raki in the other poll (even though I don't actually expect it to last).

Siegzon Caritas

2008-01-09, 18:36

After much consideration I pulled the lever. Join me in welcoming Riful as your new President of the United States ... oh wait I got my voting confused .:eyespin:
Then again . . .

Seriously this was a tough vote. For me awakened being had to mean those who like guts so I jettisoned my all time favorite character in Claymore Jean. She is not and never was an awakened being imho.

Riful was my top choice for many reasons. Her design was intricate, had a number of different looks from lolli to mystical. The second reason is that I find her the most interesting personality. She values things that someone who murders humans casually I, as a human, am uncomfortable with her having: a value on friendship, valor and loyalty. These are some pretty noble traits to value. In addition, without Riful the plot would take a severe blow. Isley is a bit of a boor, frankly, and having a charismatic villain like Riful almost fractures the loyalties. But let's not forget she is a true monster who tortured Jean to the point of awakening. These apparent contradictions and her seeming emotional vulnerability when she talks to the heroes makes her totally appealing. In any other book she could be the main antihero and pull it off with ease. How many of those vampire types really hold a candle in fascination to Riful?

Here's to Riful, Queen of the Awakened!

For runner up--it really was tough--the other half of the AB kawaiicouple: Dauf!

Dauf is a true awakened, with an awakened's vicousness, yet like Riful (has he learned from her?) he has complex emotions. He leans on Riful but not in a codependent sense. He could certainly make it on his own. He turns to her and wails about his hands fully knowing they will regenerate but fully expecting sympathy from Riful and I think on many occassions he gets it. Nowhere is there an inkling that this relationship is one of need or fear. Finally, Dauph has the kind of thug comedic sadism that is truly awful but a common character trait among awakened belching out a rod and decimating a fellow awakened. He's quite willing to take the initiative. I could see an ES about him. I think though, he had better be careful as he is the weakest one of the upcoming conflict: Riful, Isley, Pris, Alicia/Beth. I won't shed a tear if Dauph buys it, he is a sadistic brute, but I would be interested in Riful's reaction if she lost her man, so Dauph barely gets my second place vote due to his ongoing influence on the plot.

My last pick was Ophelia. Her hatred of ABs and her longing for guts as a new AB was priceless. She was actually more sympathetic as an AB than as a Claymore. Ophelia needed to know herself before becoming a hero and she never got a chance. Ophelia played in a tragedy, yet got little sympathy because she was both the tragic figure and the villain. Ophelia was also the first glimpse that the AB actually maintains the individuality of the original person surrounded by the overpowering hunger they are famous for.

Stahlwolf

2008-01-09, 19:07

Riful and Jean-

Even though Riful is prisy (and a bit cocky in a way), she has the elegance to tell you that she's either A) going to kill you, or B) turn you into an awakened being. And also note that she has not killed a human (that we know of) yet. And who is also of the rare ABs that can hide their true form.
As far as Jean is concerned.... Heh. It's Jean.
And was there a reason as to why CLARE isn't on this list as well?
And as far as the manga concerns.... I'd like to see Riful battle Agatha because she may win. Riful can shred where as Agatha can only coil, whip, and pierce with her appendages.
Gee... you think Riful will come and help.....

-Nah.

chibamonster

2008-01-09, 19:40

I voted for a bunch :D. The Awakened beings make up the best part of claymore in my opinion, especially because every claymore has the potential to become one. I love that none of them are the same and even their feelings towards their own awakening are different.

I voted for the 6 armed claymore mostly because the first time I saw him in the series I flipped out. After all the development of having Claymores as all women the introduction of an awakened being (the second we had seen) who was not only powerful enough to shock Miria but was also a male got a huge response from me. I'm not sure how he compares to the higher ups (probably not at all) but for that fight he was truly terrifying even toying with the fab 4 in an intelligent way Duff could never dream of. I wonder how many Claymores met their end at his 30 fingers.

Riful is one of my favorites just because she is so complex. She doesn't even seem to enjoy fighting. She cloaks her youki well enough to surprise even Galatea. She is smart and analyzes every situation. And she has a big dumb boy friend. Some day Riful is going to get serious and I am really excited to see that. I wonder what she looks like when she goes in for an attack. I can't imagine she keeps her dress looking elegant when she gets serious. Not to mention that she is fast.

I also had to vote for Rigardo because his entrance into the story completely shattered so many of my expectations for manga. No mercy, no talking, no convoluted sense of justice; just action. Seeing developed characters cut apart without even being able to defend themselves was a huge kick in the gut.

Agatha's form is so vastly different from anything we have seen, not to mention her attitude as someone who is completely comfortable being a monster. I anticipate much more from this venus fly trap awakened being.

And Isley just because he looks cool. He is the most evil AB.

faint-smile

2008-01-10, 01:31

Riful,

Because she is so funny, smart, and have many interesting satyrically quote and seems that she's using more his brain that become bloodthirsty and harsh murderer

redmeat

2008-01-10, 02:20

I voted for Luciela. She's cute, outgoing, sociable, intelligent, kind, caring, and overall well-rounded person.

Who am I kidding, I'm enamored by the two fat tentacles sticking out from her behind :p

King Lycan

2008-01-10, 17:08

hmm i have no favorite Ab because i kinda hate them all:heh:
for killing all my favorite claymores:sad:

chibamonster

2008-01-11, 12:53

I really want to know what Riful's awakening was like. I imagine Isley had something to do with it (you know, just because). Her personality might have been very different when she was the youngest number one as opposed to one of the oldest Female Awakened Beings. Imagining her having lazy days where she just sleeps eats and then goes back to sleep makes me laugh. Especially if she is really groggy in the morning. I'd imagine her singing J-pop in the shower as well, off key and very loud. She'd probably be the type to get mad if Duff made a mess with his food or didn't use utensils :D. I wonder where she gets her little potato bag dresses. Does she make them herself? Luciella's dress was probably tailored to fit her. Too bad clothes aren't made for awakened forms.

Shogunreiko

2008-01-11, 14:01

i voted for agatha couse she is so kittenish and fascinating :D

NoSanninWa

2008-01-11, 15:35

i voted for agatha couse she is so kittenish and fascinating :D
Kittenish? Well, I suppose she has shown a definite propensity for playing with her prey. Mostly I think Agatha has so many votes because she's the AB of the moment. Pretty soon she'll be dead and no more extraudinary than the first male AB Clare met. Honestly, the fight against that AB was pretty epic and he even got to show a bit of personality, but nobody cares about him any more. :( Eventually Agatha will be in the same category, except more dangerous... and named. I'll admit that having a name does make a difference. ;)

Lucc

2008-01-11, 16:34

beeing hawt does too ! i'm pretty sure she'll have nore fans then the first male ab even after she is cut into little pieces;P

i voted for riful. not sure why. he is tust wicked. too bad she ended up with dauf the douchebag;P riful and rigardo woulda be nuch better

Anima

2008-01-12, 03:01

I also had to vote for Rigardo because his entrance into the story completely shattered so many of my expectations for manga. No mercy, no talking, no convoluted sense of justice; just action. Seeing developed characters cut apart without even being able to defend themselves was a huge kick in the gut.
Agreed! When I saw that episode in the anime where Rigardo goes into business, I was astonished! I thought that guy was the deal. No time for chit-chat in battle-field. Totally realistic but then few moments later after he got his right arm chopped off he switched into tutorial mode :twitch:
With every single attack Clare tried to land on him, he gave us the analysis. I was disappointed and hence didn't vote for him :eyespin:

Agatha's form is so vastly different from anything we have seen, not to mention her attitude as someone who is completely comfortable being a monster. I anticipate much more from this venus fly trap awakened being.
Agatha's behavior is really disturbing. She said she was holding back herself from eating guts in Rabona but when she went loose what did she do? she bathed in blood!? "Hey, aren't you gonna eat some guts?" "No, just gonna have a bloody bath" :uhoh:
She is monstrously cruel and I thought Riful was having issues :eyebrow:

It seems Riful is winning the war here, but I don't know why I didn't vote for her myself. She is smart no doubt but I guess the part where she tried to awaken claymores to become her allies just did it for me. Indeed, I'd love to see how Riful fights when she gets serious but I am kinda worried that she might disappoint :o

Valduran

2008-01-12, 07:48

Agreed! When I saw that episode in the anime where Rigardo goes into business, I was astonished! I thought that guy was the deal. No time for chit-chat in battle-field. Totally realistic but then few moments later after he got his right arm chopped off he switched into tutorial mode :twitch:
With every single attack Clare tried to land on him, he gave us the analysis. I was disappointed and hence didn't vote for him :eyespin:

Haha, "Tutorial Mode".

You pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Rigardo appeared to be an interesting and intimidating new villain at first, but ended up being an overly chatty paper lion. >.<

It seems Riful is winning the war here...

Bwahahaha, if this was political poll, my campaign would be a success!

My Votes:

#1: Riful (Second favorite character in the entire story so far, I've never seen an anime/manga villain with such an awesome personality :))

#2: Ophelia (The most pyschologically interesting AB, I loved the way she repressed her awakened side at the end and had a moment of sane humanity that she was never able to obtain in all her days as a Claymore)

#3: Agatha (Sexy, and loads of fun. As long as she doesn't kill Galatea I will continue to consider her one of the most amusing ABs out there.)

DazarGaidin

2008-01-12, 08:01

Im definitely voting Riful as number 1 and Dauf as number 2. Riful is awesome, intelligent and sarcastic, and she seems rather practical as well. I also find her full awakened form oddly attractive. :love: Dauf is just great comic relief, and his frank and honest (stupid too i guess) manner is appealing, especially with so many manipulative elements in the manga.

I also gave jeane a nod, because she is by far the best looking ab...was very awed with her especially in the anime in full color.

Great shot of lucy up there too mod lol :P

Anima

2008-01-12, 09:15

Im definitely voting Riful as number 1 and Dauf as number 2. Riful is awesome, intelligent and sarcastic, and she seems rather practical as well. I also find her full awakened form oddly attractive. :love:
Ah, anything jet black is appealing! she is sparkling in that color, isn't she?. :naughty:

I also gave jeane a nod, because she is by far the best looking ab...was very awed with her especially in the anime in full color.
Ditto

Great shot of lucy up there too mod lol :P
Actually that was me finding the shot, and Geta Boshi resizing it to 100x100 :D

I am actually amazed that Katea got 3 votes!! Out of sympathy you silent people?

koffy

2008-01-12, 12:40

#1 Riful I agree with Valduran about Riful, I like her looking and her personality. One more reason is her attitude to Claymores like possible allies.

Casshern

2008-01-12, 13:18

Voted Isley only! He's the coolest of all characters in claymore and has the most awesome released form!

I think Riful might be stronger than him though, for no reason other than the fact that Riful was able to sense Priscila's power in her human form, while Isley and his tool (Rigardo) needed an asskicking to understand.

Still, being at Priscilla's side ought to make for an excellent story. I believe Priscilla herself might kill him in the end.

azurie

2008-01-12, 21:31

my fav awakened being is ME right after a good nights sleep :P ROFL!

lsley

2008-01-12, 21:45

I am actually amazed that Katea got 3 votes!! Out of sympathy you silent people?

i think she got these votes for the shortest and poorest performance, you dont allways have to be the best, being the worst also makes you popular sometimes (clarice) :D

FlareKnight

2008-01-12, 21:51

Had to give the vote to Riful. She's been just an excellent character overall. An intelligent character who put our her views well. Being behind things like friendship, comradely, etc. Sure there's the whole torturing claymore's to get them to awaken, but no ones perfect :). Besides she just looks great.

Davitz

2008-01-13, 09:42

i voted for dauf
for some reason i really like that ab lol

Arcananine77

2008-01-13, 17:33

Isley and Rigardo for me. Though I kinda wanted to vote for Riful as well (I forgot :P)

Anima

2008-01-17, 15:40

You know, I find it really amusing that Yagi couldn't help but provide the kids with some weird fanservice. All ABs lose their form and transform to something else (except for Agatha, relatively tho) but the females get to keep their breasts no matter what! They even get to keep their nipples (except for the female AB which Ophelia killed) :twitch:

I mean there is no need for the breasts in battles. They don't even need them for breast feeding when they are not in the battle field, do they? :heh:

chibamonster

2008-01-17, 16:17

But fortunately the male AB's do not have wankers hanging out of their awakened form. That might ruin the sleek design and make the battles a lot more gross. I bet Isley wouldn't be anywhere near as popular if his centaur family jewels were looming over his opponents.

Valduran

2008-01-17, 16:20

Anima

2008-01-17, 16:38

Haha, I thought about that male "dangling issues" but didn't bring it up because the female ones were also removed so it's fair game when it comes to the lower parts :p

But I guess males could use some liquid guns in their arsenal, no? :heh:

Negativedark

2008-01-17, 19:27

Reminds me of that one comic that added some wordballoons to a scene from Superfriends featuring Giganta.

Siegzon Caritas

2008-01-17, 21:56

omg, my innocence! Give it back! :(

Oh wait, I already lost it staring too long at Agatha :p

Do they even have a sex drive? If not, then maybe genitalia would be forgotten in the transition. There's a question of just how malleable are they? The shape changing seems limited to one or two forms even for the abyssals. A norm form and an awakened form with some transitional shapes (riful's arm for example)

Agatha uses her sexuality I think in the same way Riful uses her cuteness, as a way to relate back to once being human and once having human emotions.

Agatha mocks (desires?) communication via sexuality but its just a show for murder and nothing to do with sexuality; Riful prattles on about friendship and valor after torturing Claymores.

There's a disconnect between ABs and humans (Claymores) that is more than just a craving for guts.

YMMV

Anima

2008-01-18, 07:46

Agatha uses her sexuality I think in the same way Riful uses her cuteness, as a way to relate back to once being human and once having human emotions.
But then how would the yoki manipulator fit there? he totally lost all human traces in his AB form. The spider-like AB also lost all traces except for the head probably.

As for the current results, I am relieved to see that Priscilla isn't that popular. Heck, even Rosemary who only got few pages panel time is more popular! :heh:

* Can't hide his grudges against Priscilla :frustrated:

Siegzon Caritas

2008-01-18, 08:26

But then how would the yoki manipulator fit there?

Perhaps, some have less interest or ability to hold onto any humanity, even as a mask. It's odd the Abyssals can all look totally human, but the other ABs are monstrosities. Don't know. There's some thread back to humanity, but it lacks the essential core of what makes a human human-charity (the virtue), which makes Galatea's selfless charity right now so fascinating and has me on the hook to see what the author will do with the current fight.

chibamonster

2008-01-18, 17:42

AB relationships to others seem different and interesting. It wouldn't seem that they have any strong drive to be with each other in most cases as they used to be predominantly solitary. I'm not sure what Isley said to get the male AB's of the north under his thumb, but it must have been a fairly interesting speech. It didn't seem like they were terrified of him but rather loyal followers. I am imagining William Wallace's speech from braveheart.

Each awakening is very unique. Not just in form, but in personality as well. Some love being monsters, some want to be with their families, some want friends, some want power. It seems that their priorities can be different from a human's but can also be very simmilar.

redmeat

2008-01-19, 02:12

Isley is either very charismatic or he's the alpha male, kind of like the top monkey in a pack. He could've won his place through many battles or simply through a show of force. I doubt that he earned his position through peaceful means. All the examples shown relating to the establishment of the pecking order involved violence.

I think humans are just as unique as awakened beings. Not all of them have humanity. Some are good, bad, twisted, evil, sadistic, etc. In a way, they are the same.

Anima

2008-01-19, 06:27

I also think Isley forced them to cooperate by simply showing them his powers. After all they are monsters and force is all what matters.

FateAnomaly

2008-01-19, 06:55

I think he probably lied to them about having a grand plan of conquering the entire continent. But all he wanted is a vacation to the warm south:D

Negativedark

2008-01-20, 00:00

Well I'm sure he didn't tell them "Half of you will go west and be wiped out by Riful. Really you have no chance. Heck I figure Dauf alone could probably kill a bunch of you. Now those of you on b team, you might be okay, assuming the Organization didn't finish their artificail Creature of the Abyss project. If they did, well it was nice knowing you. Now who wants some post briefing ice cream?"

chibamonster

2008-01-25, 23:49

Maybe it went something like, "Hey, why haven't you guys gotten together to attack the organization? I mean they are the only ones who can kill you anyway and if you gang up there's no way they can stop you is there? I mean no one can kill me, but I'll help you guys if you want."

And then there was silence for 10 minutes as the AB men realized how obvious their solution was.

Zsych

2008-01-28, 02:32

I fail to see why Rosemary has so many votes. Maybe she has the pity vote for her bad luck in opposing Teresa and never getting a chance to be an abyssal.

I voted for... Rigardo, Isley, and maybe Agatha :P
Isley seems interesting, although I suppose Riful might have more depth than this guy.

Regarding the objections to Rigardo talking. I think that he just talked/thought when he was interested. He commented some on Miria, and then later on Clare. The rest were like insects to him so they hardly deserved any thought on his part.

As for Agatha... I grant her the hotness vote :P She does seem like an interesting character, but I don't think she'll last long enough to show us much.

... wankers on male AB bodies.... now that was a funny idea. I expect that Claymores do lose much of their sexuality in their lonely existences, although, they may actually be able to bring out more aspects of their bodies when needed, like when Clare was modifying her voice by transforming her throat.

Anima

2008-01-28, 16:19

I fail to see why Rosemary has so many votes. Maybe she has the pity vote for her bad luck in opposing Teresa and never getting a chance to be an abyssal.
I don't think it's pity at all! As I said in my post, she looks awesome and I think, for her to wear the claymore outfit after awakening and being so focused on fighting Teresa makes her a conscious AB. Maybe also because she was able to inflect damage (I know it's close to nothing but she DID it!) on Teresa from the first try after awakening gave her some points. Being slaughtered by Teresa is also another advantage for her :p

Regarding the objections to Rigardo talking. I think that he just talked/thought when he was interested. He commented some on Miria, and then later on Clare. The rest were like insects to him so they hardly deserved any thought on his part.
Oh come on! when you get your arm chopped off and you know you are offensive type, you don't raise what's left and stare on the chopped flesh and say "this is hard to swallow. You quickly came in between me and her and even took away my arm at a speed that I even lost track of for a moment." Instead you hurry to reattach your lost arm :uhoh: Oh yeah but Clare didn't know all that because she was NOT the one who did it :heh:

Some of his lines were ok but he ended up too analytical. Maybe because he started his fight in a kick ass style, it had our expectations level so high? :D

Now that Hilda was brought up in one of the discussions, I don't know why I didn't vote for her. Aside from the mummy like figure which I like (Old Kemet civilization lover), she held back when she fought Miria altho she was pretty strong. (alas, I hate it but I am referring to the databooks stats). So I add my invisible vote for Hilda. :cool:

Zsych

2008-01-28, 20:10

Miria was also of the opinion that Hilda was very powerful and holding back. There seems to be a need for further exploration for AB humanity.

As for Rigardo... I think much of it was just self-confidence. He hadn't released his full power yet, and didn't really expect the awakened form of a Claymore who was basically a weakling to be able to be too much of a threat to him if he got serious.
Besides, it would've been over in one chapter, with no chance for Clare to power up, if Rigardo had been intent on absolute destruction. Heck, if Rigardo had been serious, the Claymores would all have been dead(minus Miria and Clare perhaps)

zato_1one

2008-02-02, 15:14

No Clare ehh...? Well, I vote mostly based on look.

Female AB killed by Ophelia - She's gorgeous! The most beautiful tentacle monster I've ever seen. :D Like her more than Riful.

Alicia - She looks like a cockroach to me and I really hate the cockroach! But she's cool for being unique and kicks ass. Like her black uniform. :)

Isley - He's one of the most cool looking monster I've ever seen. ;)

Luciela - Love her human form. She's my second hottest woman in Claymore. Too bad she doesn't have more screen time like Riful. :upset: Her awakened form is sexy!

Rosemary - She also has a very cool design. Remind me of Queen Alien. :cool:

Agatha - The hottest AB ever! :heh:

Amaloli

2008-02-10, 09:47

1. Ophelia- she's just beautiful <3
2. Luciela- i like her awakened and human form very much^^
3. Agatha- she's very sexy xD
4. Riful
5. Alicia

ch0c0b0fr34k

2008-02-10, 13:48

1. Agatha - After months and months of wondering if we'll ever see a majority-completed female AB, we get one! Sexy to boot.

2.Riful - Gets the most time, plus the character design is awesome

3. Dauf - If you have Riful, gotta have Dauf. The two together are pwnage.

4. Isley - Awesome character, has the power to match the looks.

Lights of Euphoria

2008-02-11, 06:04

Ophelia...
*sniff*
You are missed oh, ye who can crack thy own neck and still look sexy doing it.

Anima

2008-02-11, 06:18

Ophelia...
*sniff*
You are missed oh, ye who can crack thy own neck and still look sexy doing it.
http://b.imagehost.org/t/0084/vlcsnap-132509.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0084/vlcsnap-132509.png)

Mikke

2008-02-14, 12:57

Ok, I think there should be a second thread dedicated to the best LOOKING ab.
That I think you'd agree is Jean.. the others are too damn ugly..

(Awakened form I mean)

chibamonster

2008-02-14, 13:57

I still wonder how Jean's Awakened form would get around and eat people. I imagine her flying into glass and fluttering into lights as a moth would. Although maybe her arms and legs would still be fairly useful for landing and dancing around. She'd probably have those youma finger poles come out of her wings to attack from everywhere. That or the web stuff around her has more of a purpose as well. Not many AB's have been able to fly. A flying AB would be very difficult to take down since claymores rely on their swords so much.

Anima

2008-02-14, 14:19

Jean was unique in many ways Claymore and AB wise but chibamonster, remember that Priscilla fed on guts while in human form although the idea of Moth Jean making a dramatic entrance through windows sends the thrills through my spine! *shivers*

But man, I can't see my Jean doing such evil things. :uhoh:

cheese4u

2008-02-14, 14:25

Quick question, is agatha the hot naked chick that's beating the crap out of Miata and Galatea, right now in the manga? If so, then I choose her and Rosemary.

Anima

2008-02-14, 14:34

Yes she is. Although I'd argue about beating the crap of Miata but the result is Miata was nailed to the ground because of her stupid mama. So yeah, she is the one beating the crap out of those 2 :D

yurifan

2008-02-15, 05:35

i totally hate pricilla, but i have to admit, that bio*** is cool and extrem.

Anima

2008-02-15, 06:09

i totally hate pricilla, but i have to admit, that bio*** is cool and extrem.
Horay! Someone actually liked the weird fanservice Yagi-sensei provided to us. :D

ergon

2008-02-16, 01:05

yurifan

2008-02-16, 04:15

I might not have found Claymore if it weren't for Agatha. I was looking through a Jump Square at work for something interesting and I saw...boobies! which got my attention of course...after reading more about Claymore, I went all the way back to Scene 1 and read the whole thing.

you hentai-adult. :)

btw i find agatha in the erotic way very super, giga, mega, cool but not to compare to that biotch called priscilla. the author just want her to be cool in that way. cant help. :sad: but ... VIVA TERESA!!!!! I wish the author just make her reborn somehow in someway.

hilloneko101

2008-02-18, 00:18

I voted for
Riful - She is quite cool and my Fav. Awakened one
Jean - Because her form was extremely beautiful
Alicia - since she interests me, which of course has nothing to do with the fact that she gets to wear a black uniform *nervous laugh*
Rigardo - I only voted for Rigardo since I think he is kind of cool.

didn't vote for Priscilla since she killed Theresa *insert really angry face*

ergon

2008-02-26, 11:00

I voted for Jean, Alicia, Luciela and Agatha. Jean of course deserves respect. i liked the way Alicia made limb stew of those ABs. I think some of the Evil ABs look cool but I can't bring myself to like them, except luciela cuz we never saw her really evil side. I don't like those lolis Riful and Pris because I think they're poisonous bitches but very cute on the outside :frustrated: Agatha is very plainly evil so its good. I don't know. Its just different.

Anima

2008-02-26, 11:43

Priscilla is no loli, man! She is a mature one. Her body says it very clearly (breasts I mean). She might be younger than other claymores but not a loli IMO. Riful and that single-digit ABs are the lolis in our Claymore universe.

Oh and admit it, you love Agatha because she was the one who made you read Claymore :D

I am already excited about what Yagi will introduce to the ABs family in the future. :cool:

lsley

2008-02-26, 15:11

ergon

2008-02-26, 21:41

:heh: :heh: :heh:

Archmagination2002

2008-02-29, 12:37

Rigardo.. are you talking about the Anime or Manga version of him? The Manga version is much more realistic than the Anime version is. The only reason why Rigardo started speaking about Clare/Miria is because Clare momentarily shocked him out of his bloodlust and made him realize that he underestimated her. He knew he was in trouble, but he also was very intrigued by what Clare was doing.

Anima

2008-02-29, 12:54

I see no differences between anime and manga Rigardo. Even in extra scene #3, look how babbling he was commenting on Isley's fight. I know the commentary has to be done somehow but it was put on poor Rigardo to make him a bit too chatty for my liking.

chibamonster

2008-02-29, 18:34

I think part of the reason I was upset with Rigard in the anime was because of his fight being broken up between him and Raki crying. Bad idea. I also didn't understand how dropping a pillar on Clare would be fast enough to get her. Also how it led into really butchering the ending... I never thought Rigard was really chatty in the manga especially for a shonen boss battle. Most of his comments felt like they were there to tell us what was happening if we couldn't understand from the visual. And compared to how much Helen and Deneve talk during the fight he says very little :). Although by personal preference is that it might be like Harrison Ford's voice over narration in the original blade runner and much better if he just said nothing narrative at all. But that all being said, Rigard's fight in the manga is one of my favorite fights of all time from anything. Clare got a power up and beat him but it did not feel like a real solid victory for her because of the loss of the captains, especially after she loses Jean and then everyone alive in pieta gets 'slaughtered'.

ergon

2008-03-01, 03:28

I was wondering how clare beat him in the anime, as I've only read the manga. from what I gather the event was mixed with an encounter with Priscilla. I almost don't want to watch the anime as I know I'll be disappointed with the ending. not to mention the death of jean and the other claymores would be made almost completely useless.

I think the reason I don't like Rigald is that I would have like to see how the fight played out without him. but he shows up and kills flora and veronica :frustrated: and then gets killed by clare. It would have been pretty cool to watch the claymores and ABs just slug it out.

Anima

2008-03-01, 03:41

I was wondering how clare beat him in the anime, as I've only read the manga. from what I gather the event was mixed with an encounter with Priscilla. I almost don't want to watch the anime as I know I'll be disappointed with the ending. not to mention the death of jean and the other claymores would be made almost completely useless.

Actually I didn't see Jean's death useless in the anime, she played the same role except:
Instead of dying after Rigardo's fight is over, she dies for the same reason (pulling Clare back) after her fight with Priscilla finishes.

Clare killed Rigardo in the anime using the Quicksword but after releasing way too much yoki without awakening and Rigardo ended up just like the manga, into meatmince.

ergon

2008-03-01, 18:32

Actually I didn't see Jean's death useless in the anime, she played the same role except:
Instead of dying after Rigardo's fight is over, she dies for the same reason (pulling Clare back) after her fight with Priscilla finishes.

Clare killed Rigardo in the anime using the Quicksword but after releasing way too much yoki without awakening and Rigardo ended up just like the manga, into meatmince.

But doesn't she end up sparing Priscilla?
Yeah I saw a pic of clare turning rigald into lambchops (lionchops? :D) But in the manga it was the whole "the only way to defeat me is awakening all for limbs, SUPERB" thing. Oh well...

Jonova

2008-03-01, 21:36

I voted for
Riful - Shes gorgeous in her awaken form
Jean - Shes gorgeous too >_<
Alicia - I like the "doll" feeling of her face in awaken form

Anima

2008-03-02, 16:32

But doesn't she end up sparing Priscilla?
Yeah I saw a pic of clare turning rigald into lambchops (lionchops? :D) But in the manga it was the whole "the only way to defeat me is awakening all for limbs, SUPERB" thing. Oh well...
She spared Raki not Priscilla.

To go back to topic, I think now after we've seen that Agatha's true form is actually a human body which is quiet unique, it marks her as the hottest AB indeed :D

ergon

2008-03-03, 09:06

Or Ophelia...heheh. You know what would have been cool? Clare chopping off Ophelia's tail and then making her revert like Jean did.

Bashfulz

2008-03-03, 10:38

Or Ophelia...heheh. You know what would have been cool? Clare chopping off Ophelia's tail and then making her revert like Jean did.

nah.its impossible. she hasnt "learnt" it yet. XD

lsley

2008-03-03, 11:18

And I don't think that she'd want it ;)

chibamonster

2008-03-03, 14:23

Who knows what ophelia would do if she returned from awakening... She would probably go insane and kill herself... or at least kill herself because that insane part might already have been taken care of. Yeah, but agreed, Clare didn't know how to do it yet. She learned that from Galatea. Had Clare known partially awakening was possible much earlier she wouldn't have killed her friend Elaine. That is the real loss I feel.

I do, however, think that someday someone will be brought back from a complete awakening. If we are only halfway-ish through the series that would be somewhere in the progression of what has been ramping up thematically. In the beginning awakening was absolute and we saw the black card. Then Clare returned from being over her limit. Then we met the slashers. Then Jean returned from a complete bodily awakening with her mind intact. Then Clare awakened her limbs and fought with them. Then we beheld the soul link; complete awakened body and return. I do not think this progression is over but I am not sure how far it will go.

I do think we will see Clare's fully awakened form. Maybe we will see some others of the fab 4's form as well. Hopefully Miria's, not because I think she is most likely to awaken but because she would probably look the best.

hell88

2008-03-03, 15:59

If any of the 7 ghosts awaken I think Helen and Deneve might, probably because of there abilties, it makes them closer to being awaken then the rest of the group.

Fenrir_valindri

2008-03-03, 17:04

Actually Clare is the most likely :P Simply because of past events, Deneve is only at risk if she gets seriously injured (and the same goes for any Claymore) and Helen's ability really doesn't use that much Yoki.

hell88

2008-03-03, 17:32

Well I hope Deneve doesn't get seriously injured then, shes one of coolest members of the group.

King Lycan

2008-03-03, 20:21

lol yea she's so awesome her personality is somewhta similar to Ilena's and that's why she is my 2nd favorite claymore

chibamonster

2008-07-02, 11:28

I wonder if the DoD's have different shapes like AB's or of they are all the same as we have seen so far? Maybe these Descendent of Dragon things are like the homogeneous youma that we have seen in the story so far.

I love the awakened beings designs in claymore. They are so pretty.

NobodyMan

2008-07-02, 11:42

I'm sure there is going to be a variety of interesting designs for the DoD's in future chapters. Yagi seems to love his monsters, so he woudn't leave them with only one form. :D

zato_1one

2008-07-02, 12:26

Looking from chapter 80. DoD seem to have the same shape. But who knows, they may have several classes like warrior, Knight, Queen etc etc :cool:

KillerYomaFromSpace

2008-07-02, 16:04

Voted for Riful, whats not to love about her? ^^

Ancient Soul

2008-07-03, 07:30

Missed this poll...until now.

My vote is for : Riful.

Intelligent, like friends , cute (in her non-awakened form), fearsome (in her awakened-form), talkative.Most important she let Clare , Galatea and Jeane alive when any other AB\AO would have killed them without a second thought.

Ryuken

2008-07-03, 10:22

Pretty obvious that it would be Riful of the west although, did vote for others.

hell88

2008-07-03, 17:32

I think everyone knows who I voted for. Even if she's an awakened being she's still my favourite. GO JEAN!:D

chibamonster

2008-07-03, 17:57

With this newest chapter Priscilla just jumped a bunch of places on my favorite AB list. I still hate that she took Teresa away but with her recent developments she has gotten very very interesting.

NobodyMan

2008-07-03, 18:05

My picks for favorite AB's were Rigald, Riful, and last but not least Isley.

Isley is my #1 pick though, because his awakened form is just plain badass. I especially like the homing arrows he has.

I got a funny image in my head just now, it would be hilarious to see Isley place Raki on his bow and launch him like an arrow into enemy territory.

Raki: W-wait a minute Isley! Can't we talk about this first?!
Isley: The time for talk is over, now it is time for ACTION! SUPER HUMAN MISSLE OF FRIENDSHIP!! LAUNCH!!!!
Raki: OH GOD~~!

and yeah, Priscilla went up on my chart as well. I liked her from the beginning, but now I like her even more. An AB that doesn't eat humans, who would of thought.

chibamonster

2008-07-03, 18:34

I love thinking of Raki's training with Isley. My first thought was that their relationship would be exactly the same as Guy sensei and Rock lee in Naruto.

Isley: You are the only one to have ever mastered this technique Raki! Even though you have no talent for youki use or youki sensing.
Raki: WAHOOO---- (Slapped by Isley and flies across the ground) What was that for?
Isley: Listen well Raki. From now on it will be a forbidden technique that you can only use to protect many important people.
Raki: OooooH! THANK YOU ISLEY SENSEI!
Isley: YOU WILL NOW BE KNOWN AS THE GREEN BEAST OF THE SOTU!!! WORLD, FEEL THIS EXPLOSION OF YOUTH!
Raki: OWAHOOO!!!

Or I also imagine their relationship being just like Kamina and Simon's from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Isley: Don't believe in yourself. Believe in me who believes in you Raki!
Raki: I do not even understand what you are saying!
Isley: It has come time for us to COMBINE for our ultimate fighting form!
Raki: That is not even possible!
Isley: You will NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU TRY! UWAOOO!!! COOOMMBIIINNNNEEE!!!!

So many great teachers in anime.

NobodyMan

2008-07-03, 18:44

Totally, now I want to see Isley and Raki in the famous green jumpsuits.

I see their relationship being somewhat like the one between Urahara and Ichigo from bleach. But the Kamina and Simon relationship would be awesome too.

but all in all Isley is just awesome. Him, Priscilla, and Raki form the unstopable (sp?) trio of awesome.

one more thing, Luciella and Riful use god mode

God uses Isley mode. :eyespin: (totally stole that phrase :naughty: It was just too good not to use)

Ryuken

2008-07-03, 19:00

Maybe someone should draw them in green jumpsuits, that would be fun.:heh:

hell88

2008-07-05, 18:54

Easley would look funny in that jumpsuit. Raki might just look like an idiot. LMAO

Ganshou-dono

2008-07-06, 11:01

my vote is for Isley and Priscilla
Isley's form is just awesome! hand's that can change into almost any weapon...man that's just something I find interesting
I didn't like Priscilla form the beginning...well she wasn't much good looking and killed Teresa in such way that made me so mad ><...but I really love her awakened form...and she is so goddamn strong!...I like some other AB as well but I wanted to support just my two most favorite

babuji

2008-07-09, 06:55

Rigardo gets my vote.

yezhanquan

2008-07-10, 03:35

Voted for Jean.

Vinak

2008-07-10, 06:12

Ganshou-dono

2008-07-10, 07:04

It should be a crime punishable by death to put N-N-Naruto and Claymore in the same context. How can you take a ninja in a blaze orange outfit seriously?
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anyways
I voted for Riful, Isley, and Jean. Riful being my overall favorite

lol :heh: damn right you are :cool: ...I read naruto manga and that is why I can say "it's nowhere near to the Claymore" :)

chibamonster

2008-07-26, 15:52

I don't know who this is, or if they will appear in the manga, but I think this is a fantastic picture. Apparently it was the back cover to one of the compiled volumes so that probably means it will never make an appearance like many of the other cool pictures that we have seen.
http://i28.tinypic.com/1zo85ua.jpg

hell88

2008-07-26, 17:32

I remember saying one time that, that could be Irene and Raphaela. I hope not.

NobodyMan

2008-07-26, 17:51

Now that you mention it, it does look like Irene and Raphaela if they awakened and fused together. I doubt it though.

Anima

2008-07-27, 05:25

evil_kenshin

2008-07-27, 05:40

IMO the concept of AB fusion is not possible in Claymore. We've already seen that an AB can have multiple heads like Rosemary so it's likely that this is a normal AB. I doubt Raphaela would awaken since she has seen her sister. Irene could awaken but if she was forced to like Jean.
Either way, that AB sure is wicked! :D

not necessarily, keep in mind Clare. She has the head of Teresa, the arm of Irene and then herself. Though her awakened form most likely is only one form (not a mixture of 3) , if any fusion could exist it would be Clare.

KillerYomaFromSpace

2008-07-27, 07:33

not necessarily, keep in mind Clare. She has the head of Teresa, the arm of Irene and then herself. Though her awakened form most likely is only one form (not a mixture of 3) , if any fusion could exist it would be Clare.

actually, it looks like a combination of 2

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/60/02/

notice how Irene's arm awakens in a diferent way

evil_kenshin

2008-07-27, 07:48

actually, it looks like a combination of 2

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/60/02/

notice how Irene's arm awakens in a diferent way

Interesting, it does look different, so prehaps this is proof that Clare is a mixture of different forms

Though honestly Clare's looks like hers will be one scary form when she fully awakens :heh:

chibamonster

2008-07-27, 07:53

I am really curious what Irene's diamond chain arm will look like. I think Clare's form is probably going to be fairly impressive and even beautiful like most other AB's. Their transformations seem much scarier than their actual forms, like when Riful has her ribbons sticking out of her arm when we first see her abilities back in Purgatory of the Deepest Depth. I'm sure yagi has already designed Clare's awakened form as well as both her arms and legs have a theme of thin joints with two cylinders between them. We'll see her full form someday.

Lich_king

2008-07-28, 16:39

As expected Isley kicks ass in poll

Vincentre

2008-07-30, 21:15

Isley, Isley and Isley.

anime ronin

2008-07-30, 22:09

i voted for regardo. he was so scantless and professional in the anime the way he took out the main claymores so fast. and his roar was just TOO AWSOME!

Avisch

2008-07-31, 01:34

actually, it looks like a combination of 2

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/60/02/

notice how Irene's arm awakens in a diferent way

AH so thats why it was different! Thank you for pointing out something that was not obvious to me (no sarcasm).

I voted for Riful. Everytime she appears Im always amazed with how the parts of her body are drawn it's just great detail.

My other choices would have been.

Isley, an armored centaur is so damn cool.

Anima

2008-07-31, 05:18

not necessarily, keep in mind Clare. She has the head of Teresa, the arm of Irene and then herself. Though her awakened form most likely is only one form (not a mixture of 3) , if any fusion could exist it would be Clare.
I still think that it doesn't apply for an Irene/Rafaela fusion. Simply because I don't see Irene hacking Rafaela's arms and attaching them to hers (like she could anyway when she is armless). Also I don't see Rafaela chopping off any part of Irene and attaching it to herself. So how are they gonna fuse?

Anyway, when I said "fusion", the concept of DBZ fusions came to mind and that's what I meant. Clare has those parts implanted into her so they are hers now although originally they aren't and it's like what you said. Clare will have an awakened arm from Irene not a talking Irene arm working on its own :p

Double_friedman

2008-08-04, 01:26

Hello, I liked the design of Alicia and Rosemary. Alicia is the strongest number one of history (obviously because she's the only one who can awake and conserve her human soul). I like the way she destroyed all the Abeings and I think her overall powers have augmented in these 7 years.

Rosemary had a nice Abeing form, like an allien.

Anima

2008-08-04, 02:51

Alicia is the strongest number one of history (obviously because she's the only one who can awake and conserve her human soul).
Now, be careful there! You are playing with fire when you say someone was the strongest #1 Claymore beside Teresa. :p
Seriously tho, the true power of Teresa is not clearly known but indicators suggests (at least for some of us) that she was beyond abyssal level.

Misavampire

2008-08-08, 17:24

I Voted,
Isley, Luciela and Riful

Captain Yoruichi

2008-08-08, 17:37

I really like Priscilla's character design, but I chose Riful as my favorite. Mostly because I've seen her more.

Juuni

2008-09-22, 13:42

Isley, by far.

chibamonster

2008-09-22, 14:00

Isley is one of my favorites too, and one of the few males who has survived in the series. I can't say I am a big fan of Duff. I really wonder what Isley is up to these days.

evil_kenshin

2008-09-22, 15:47

Isley is one of my favorites too, and one of the few males who has survived in the series. I can't say I am a big fan of Duff. I really wonder what Isley is up to these days.

Plotting no doubt :p

The fact his the only character still not introduced after the timeskip probably suggests its yagi's way of saying his important later on, so we'll see him kick ass a few more times at least.

KillerYomaFromSpace

2008-09-22, 16:01

I'm surprised that Agatha has so many fans with such a small role in the story, more fans than Ophelia, Alicia or Priscila (I hate Priscila, but I have to recognize that her AB design is quite awesome, hers, and the one female AB killed by Ophelia)

and of course eveybody loves Riful, but there is nothing wrong with that, she is cute even in her awakened form ^^

chibamonster

2008-09-22, 16:09

Well, Agatha is about as close to fan service you can get in this series in some twisted way. She is blatantly a very sexual creature which so far is an anomaly for Claymore. Ophelia really is her only competition for being seen without clothes but she didn't have legs nor solicit any of the dashing men from Rabona for physical pleasures. Yagi has formed a world where anyone who does see the main characters torso actually gets physically sick.

And Riful is cute, though she looked a little older in her last appearance. Can you imagine her in Claymore armor? She'd have to carry the sword differently or it would drag on the ground. And the waist length cape probably hit the ground for her.

KillerYomaFromSpace

2008-09-22, 16:25

Something tells me that the claymore Riful wasn't a loli, in another recent thread I spculated about that posibility

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=1923482#post1923482

chibamonster

2008-09-22, 16:34

KillerYomaFromSpace

2008-09-22, 16:57

Galatea also says Riful was the youngest to reach number 1 and the youngest to then awaken. It is not like she has much competition as she is one of only 3 Abyssals, but she is the youngest number one in history. That also does not say much because we really do not know how many #1's there were. As she looks older now maybe she can shift shapes a bit. Priscilla obviously has. I mean it is no stretch of the imagination to think that AB's can change shape as youma can do that quite well and AB's have that whole awakened form thing going for them.

Personally I like the idea of a really cute Claymore Riful being #1, but that is only my preference. She definitely could have a different form than what she looked like when she was a Claymore.

oops, yeah, forgot Galatea's comment, I wonder how was Riful when she was a claymore, I'm sure there must be an interesting story about her claymore days and her awakening, could she be the type that awakened on purpose?, has Isley something to do with that? (they knew each other, could that be from before she awakened?) maybe Isley is a lolicon...

Negativedark

2008-09-22, 19:32

And Riful is cute, though she looked a little older in her last appearance. Can you imagine her in Claymore armor? She'd have to carry the sword differently or it would drag on the ground. And the waist length cape probably hit the ground for her.

I dunno... Doesn't seem to be a problem for Miata. And speaking of Maita, is it just me or did she shrink in the bath or something? She just looks smaller to me than she used to.

KimmyChan

2009-03-27, 07:47

I really like Riful, I think that she's a pretty awesome Awakened Being :)

MonsieurRosseau

2009-03-27, 15:12

Well, I voted for Riful and Agatha. Riful is definitely my favorite... She's actually my favorite character that's still alive (:P). Her schemes and ideas are amazing.

Plus, she's adorable.

I considered Luciela...

NerdyOtaku

2009-03-27, 16:56

Gotta say Priscilla
She may have been a total witch and killed Teresa, but you can't help but like her ^_^;;;

Higasino Isley

2009-03-27, 19:45

My favourites are the most powerful Abyssal One and the most powerful AB, namely Kita no Isley and Priscilla from Musha.

Nevertheless, there is not any AB whom I have a particular dislike for.Some of them are pretty much intriguing characters.

amarillis

2009-04-22, 16:14

For me Isley ,with his arch arm.!!!!.( sooooo frightened beautiful..))))

Ryuken

2009-04-23, 16:35

For me Isley ,with his arch arm.!!!!.( sooooo frightened beautiful..))))

Yea, It's a shame that he is dead now.:upset::)

MisterJB

2009-04-23, 16:53

Yea, It's a shame that he is dead now.:upset::)

I think he is still alive. That was a way too...something for one of the three Big Ones to die. Lots of characthers were tought dead and they turned out to be alive.

BTW, Yagi draws the most awesome monsters. I don't think there is an AB whose design I don't like.

MonsieurRosseau

2009-04-23, 19:19

Riful is winning by a Teresa-like margin!
Yes! *pulls invisible string*

amarillis

2009-04-24, 05:48

Yea, It's a shame that he is dead now.:upset::)[/QUOTE

[QUOTE=MisterJB;2358396]I think he is still alive. That was a way too...something for one of the three Big Ones to die. Lots of characthers were tought dead and they turned out to be alive..

Esley,come back).:upset:...The balance is out...:(
(I wanted so badly to see him in Claymor armor too,in his past as former number 1).;)

Anima

2009-04-24, 09:47

I think he is still alive. That was a way too...something for one of the three Big Ones to die. Lots of characthers were tought dead and they turned out to be alive.
But it's different for Isley. We've seen the guy being eaten to bits. All those who returned had a chance of survival when we thought they were dead but not him. It's like saying Teresa will come even after seeing her head flying. He is gone for sure.

Ryuken

2009-04-24, 16:55

(I just called Galatea a thing)

Don't do that very often ok.:) Or else the Acolytes of her may never forgive you.:)

evil_kenshin

2009-04-24, 21:41

These are just the silly hopes of a still mourning fan but what we saw was his horse-body getting eaten and the remains of a hand. Maybe he survived through the human-body and let the AFs eating the horse to gain time.

while i doubt his alive we did see Lucelia get her back snapped..yet she still lived.

We did see the claymores of pieta get annihilate only to find out that due to yoki pills they were just fainted..

Claymore is full of things like this , it wouldn't surprise me if Isley was alive (i hope so)

FragrantFlora

2009-04-25, 03:31

Looks like the spinal cord, despite being very vital for humans, isn't that vital for claymores. Ophelia got her neck twisted (given if its not a special skill) and Lucilella got her back broken.

MisterJB

2009-04-25, 07:08

Sephiroth_760

2009-04-28, 13:37

I voted for rigardo and dauf
appearently they are both males, but that's not the reason
I really like Dauf because he's so dumb, and it's so funny that riful is always complaining about him and what he answers xD

and rigardo was quite cool too
I'm not sure why I do like him, but it's just like it is^^

Ryus

2009-04-29, 23:45

Looks like the spinal cord, despite being very vital for humans, isn't that vital for claymores. Ophelia got her neck twisted (given if its not a special skill) and Lucilella got her back broken.
From what I understood, the broken spine killed Luciela, the only thing that allowed her to live was Raphaela's vital energy

Good point! (This brings a question I have to mind too, but first to your point. Question at end of post.)

I see two differences that explain how Ophelia survived but Luciela died
Luciela was out of Yoki when her back was broken, so she didn't survive since she couldn't regenerate. However Ophelia had plenty of Yoki left to regenerate with when her neck was broken.
Speculating here so its less important but still worth noting. Luciela might have received more damage then just a broken back, since her chest was squeezed she might also have broken ribs. Many of which could have easily penetrated vital organs. Also note, I have no idea how Luciela was able to scream since her chest was being crushed... Oh well...

Duff also clearly had his neck severed too, yet we all know he survived. He likely had enough yoki left to regenerate with. His survival implies, to me at least, that as long as a Claymore/AB still has Yoki and a brain attached to a body the brain can control the Yoki in the body and use it to regenerate with. Assuming they have enough Yoki to regenerate with, that is.

However I believe you do have a major point. Its one thing that Ophelia used her Yoki to regenerate but to still be able to move with her neck being broken is pushing it. Especially since Duff went limp after his injury... then again he did take a lot more damage...

Here are the pics of all 3 so no one has to run back and take a look.

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/DuffNeck1.jpg http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/DuffNeck2.jpg
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/OpheliaNeck1.jpg
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/Lucielaback1.jpg http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/Lucielaback2.jpg

Now my question aimed @Anyone. Did Raphaela's Yoki save a dying Luciela? In short when Raphaela completes the merger (with whomsoevers help) will it be just her consciousness? or both of theirs? Since if Luciela was only dying and not dead yet when the merger took place then Raphaela's Yoki could have sustained Luciela's mind (or parts of it). So will this be like Ghost in the Shell (the movie) where a new life is born from the death of two others or will this be more of Raphaela just absorbing Luciela? I believe we have nothing to work with here except Rubel's theory and Riful's comments but how would either of them really know what is really going on in a comatose Claymore's mind (and possibly an Abysmal One's too). This question does assume that Raphaela merged with her sister just a moment after the above image or else Luciela would have died, I freely admit it. I don't expect a real answer but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Cyclone

2009-04-30, 01:01

Now my question aimed @Anyone. Did Raphaela's Yoki save a dying Luciela? In short when Raphaela completes the merger (with whomsoevers help) will it be just her consciousness? or both of theirs? Since if Luciela was only dying and not dead yet when the merger took place then Raphaela's Yoki could have sustained Luciela's mind (or parts of it). So will this be like Ghost in the Shell (the movie) where a new life is born from the death of two others or will this be more of Raphaela just absorbing Luciela? I believe we have nothing to work with here except Rubel's theory and Riful's comments but how would either of them really know what is really going on in a comatose Claymore's mind (and possibly an Abysmal One's too). This question does assume that Raphaela merged with her sister just a moment after the above image or else Luciela would have died, I freely admit it. I don't expect a real answer but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

I've been saying this since before I got here and before we ever even met Agatha.

Raphaela knew what she was doing - her aim all along was to save her sister. It was no accident. It turns out the method to accomplish this had harsher consequences than I imagined - I admit it. But the merger was done so as to not kill her sister while stopping her from being an AB. Regardless, it still means that some level of Claymore Luciella (and possibly AB Luciella) exists in the merger. Whether it was a process that could only occur at the brink of death... does it matter?

MisterJB

2009-04-30, 16:09

Ryus: First, let me say Ia gree with you Yoki theory.
Did you know that you can survive a hole through your neck as long as it doesn't damage any vital veins? I suposse that that had something to do with Dauf's survival but if you see that pic well, that hole is hardly on his neck. Is more on his chest.

Luciela, the Yoki theory works well.

As for Ophelia, we know that she had a really flexible body (rippling sword). I think that is a ability that only she has. If another Claymore were to have his neck broken like that, I think she would die, regardless of how many Yoki she had left. If normal Claymores could survive broken necks through Yoki healing, that AB would have ripped off Ophelia's head.

Then again, Ophelia is a Claymore and Dauf and Luciela are ABs and AOs. They are one step above her on natural selection.

MisterJB

2009-05-31, 16:33

Yes, I thought Riful is kinder than all other AO's. So she'll only remember those who she tortured? To think Clare should leave a greater impression among others. Aside from escaping capture, battling with Dauf and actually won, brave enough to land a hit on Riful herself. Sometimes I think Clare has a death wish.

So, I'll just settle with that in Claymoreverse they really never call names but their numbers instead. I'll just take it as Raphy's an odd one.

I belive that Riful is actually the most evil of all AOs, she simply hides it behind a cute and innocent fachade. She is a sadistic pshyco, who tortured women into Awakening and killed them if they weren't strong enough.

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 16:39

I've been saying this since before I got here and before we ever even met Agatha.

Raphaela knew what she was doing - her aim all along was to save her sister. It was no accident. It turns out the method to accomplish this had harsher consequences than I imagined - I admit it. But the merger was done so as to not kill her sister while stopping her from being an AB. Regardless, it still means that some level of Claymore Luciella (and possibly AB Luciella) exists in the merger. Whether it was a process that could only occur at the brink of death... does it matter?

I agree; the whole idea of killing her sister by breaking her back is stupid. On a simple first glance look, that's what happens, but despite what Riful said about "not being intended", I don't believe that. I know it's not much, but most people have already said my thoughts in their own essays :P

It makes me wonder if, in the future, such a method may be used on Priscilla, or any AB to attempt to turn them back.

I belive that Riful is actually the most evil of all AOs, she simply hides it behind a cute and innocent fachade. She is a sadistic pshyco, who tortured women into Awakening and killed them if they weren't strong enough.

Patience my friend. If their is one thing I wrapped my mind around when it comes to Claymore, it's, you never know what a character is truly like until they die. Isley I always thought was a callous manipulating psychotic who would do anything and use anyone to get what he wants, which is the entire continent. And yet, in the end, his final thoughts are about family. It's still something that I'm getting used to because I always hated him. Ophelia came across as a psychopath, yet her death was actually quite tragic and invoked alot of sympethy to her, no?

The thing I like about Claymore, is that no one is truly evil. No one, not even Isley like I previously thought. Everyone is human, whether they are now or used to be, everyone makes bad decisions, and most of the time, they die with regrets. Luciella, before discovering the merger, I thought may have had the most tragic death, if only because her tears, feelings and words to Rapheala came across as genuine to me, even if she was an Abyssal One.

Question though: Is the question "Favorite Awakened Being" asking what's your favorite AB character, or which Awakened form you like the best?

Like I said, I hate Isley, but the whole "weaponry" changing arms thing, is pretty cool.

dream-seeker

2009-05-31, 16:51

I belive that Riful is actually the most evil of all AOs, she simply hides it behind a cute and innocent fachade. She is a sadistic pshyco, who tortured women into Awakening and killed them if they weren't strong enough.

Sometimes, I see Riful as Clare's tool to defeat Priscilla (to serve her purpose). But Clare did rejected her offer.

I don't know who's more evil among AO's, each seems to be unrivaled in some areas. For example Isley, though he gathered his troops but then send all to their deaths. Riful, collects the most useful ones. Luciela hogs all the southern lands and yearn for power. Priscilla... hmmn aside from rampaging every city in the north just to eat, perhaps making Raki her pet, thought she could redeem herself?

I just thought Riful can be reasoned with, after all she probably know the whole continent they are in is for producing AB's, only the strongest and smartest survives.

MisterJB

2009-05-31, 16:52

Patience my friend. If their is one thing I wrapped my mind around when it comes to Claymore, it's, you never know what a character is truly like until they die. Isley I always thought was a callous manipulating psychotic who would do anything and use anyone to get what he wants, which is the entire continent. And yet, in the end, his final thoughts are about family. It's still something that I'm getting used to because I always hated him. Ophelia came across as a psychopath, yet her death was actually quite tragic and invoked alot of sympethy to her, no?

The thing I like about Claymore, is that no one is truly evil. No one, not even Isley like I previously thought. Everyone is human, whether they are now or used to be, everyone makes bad decisions, and most of the time, they die with regrets. Luciella, before discovering the merger, I thought may have had the most tragic death, if only because her tears, feelings and words to Rapheala came across as genuine to me, even if she was an Abyssal One.

Well, it's on the death bed that the humans reveal themselves for what they truly are, the same goes for Awakened Beings.
Even so, we have seen some people who are really evil in Claymore. And ironically, they were simple, powerless humans.

Even so, Riful is the one I believe to be truly evil. She killed her own race with a smiling face. She accepted to fight on Isley's war just because she was bored.

And make no mistake, Isley was a megalomaniac but even serial killers can have someone they care for.

Luciela, I don't believe she meant what she said. I believe that she might have missed her sister but had she been on her full strength when meeting Raphaela, things would have gone diferently.

And Rubel simply doesn't seem like a nice guy to me.

You favorite characther I suposse, even tough Rigardo, Isley, Jean, Ophelia, Dauf and Riful are on the favorite characthers poll.

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 16:59

Even so, Riful is the one I believe to be truly evil. She killed her own race with a smiling face. She accepted to fight on Isley's war just because she was bored.

Well, he attacked first, and it's not like she could have just ran away. I mean, in the end, she's involved whether she likes or not. She has too much power to be involved. And it's not like Isley's Army were invited guests or anything; I mean, she was right there and they called her a "little country girl", they got what was coming :heh::rolleyes:

Luciela, I don't believe she meant what she said. I believe that she might have missed her sister but had she been on her full strength when meeting Raphaela, things would have gone diferently.

Uh uh, sorry, I can't believe that. If she was acting, she's extremely good. And if she was at full power, I still believe things would have gone the same. She asked for her help. Remember, sibling relationship aside, Rapheala has the same power/potential as her. She would have asked for her help whether she was weak or not.

But that's beside the point. If she really wasn't crying for real, she fooled me. The "he stole these lands for me part" raised my eyebrows, but if anything, Luciella did love and miss her sister.

.......It's funny, I like have and have more sympathy for Riful and Luciella yet I hate Rubel and Isley....I guess I'm just more lenient towards the ladies :heh::cool:

MisterJB

2009-05-31, 17:07

Well, he attacked first, and it's not like she could have just ran away. I mean, in the end, she's involved whether she likes or not. She has too much power to be involved. And it's not like Isley's Army were invited guests or anything; I mean, she was right there and they called her a "little country girl", they got what was coming :heh::rolleyes:

Uh uh, sorry, I can't believe that. If she was acting, she's extremely good. And if she was at full power, I still believe things would have gone the same. She asked for her help. Remember, sibling relationship aside, Rapheala has the same power/potential as her. She would have asked for her help whether she was weak or not.

But that's beside the point. If she really wasn't crying for real, she fooled me. The "he stole these lands for me part" raised my eyebrows, but if anything, Luciella did love and miss her sister.

.......It's funny, I like have and have more sympathy for Riful and Luciella yet I hate Rubel and Isley....I guess I'm just more lenient towards the ladies :heh::cool:

At least, you don't smile on a declaration of war. And she is a little country girl.

At full power, Luciela wouldn't have cried IMO. She was a evil, sexy fiend and she wouldn't cry just because she saw her sister. The beating she got softened her edges, just that.
I believe she would have asked for help but it would have been to do what Isley did with Priscilla (not in that way). Luciela would have used Raphaela to conquer the lands. To conclude, I believe that Luciela cared more about her lands than about her own sister.

Well, I don't like Rubel aswell but Luciela and Isley are freaking awesomes. Riful is just........there.....

dream-seeker

2009-05-31, 17:13

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 17:14

Well, I don't like Rubel aswell but Luciela and Isley are freaking awesomes. Riful is just........there.....

Uh uh, Luciela was just "there". We've seen a great deal of Riful even we know next to nothing about her past, but until Cognates of Paradise, we never saw, nor heard eye or hair of Luciella or her individual history. It's always been more about Raphaela, whose name I can never spell right. And with them being merged now, I doubt we'll ever know more about her history after she awakened or her own individual personality.

At full power, Luciela wouldn't have cried IMO. She was a evil, sexy fiend and she wouldn't cry just because she saw her sister. The beating she got softened her edges, just that.
I believe she would have asked for help but it would have been to do what Isley did with Priscilla (not in that way). Luciela would have used Raphaela to conquer the lands. To conclude, I believe that Luciela cared more about her lands than about her own sister.

Ugh......alot of what you say is possible and makes sense in her certain ways, but I want to give Luciella the benefit of the doubt. Once again, we just don't know enough about her actual personality that we can determine these things and the true meaning and feelings behind her at the time.

But....as much as I want to sympathize with her....I think I would have sympathized with her more if she just asked Raphaela to protect her from Isley in case he went after her. Asking her to awaken and fight in her stead so they can both take all the lands.....

.....But their siblings, I can't blame her for expecting Raphy to agree even if, from a human/Claymore's point of view, that seems unbelievable.

Still, I like her and country girl alot more then I do Isley, that doesn't change at all XD

MisterJB

2009-05-31, 17:21

Heh.. I'm forced to vote for Jean. She's the only one hasn't eaten some guts. LOL All the rest are evil. I would vote for Clare's awakened form her awakened limbs were all useful, claws and blades plus the speed. By the way, Jean is a half awakened, why is she on the list? That'd be unfair for Helen, Deneve, Miria and Clare? But though I didn't see the fab4 awakened forms... we're talking about awakened beings right? Half/Partially awakened did fall to that category too. 'Awakened' being the root word.

Hilda didn't eat guts too and she wasn't evil.

We got to see Jean's fully AB for, that's why she is on the list. And she has an awesome form.

Uh uh, Luciela was just "there". We've seen a great deal of Riful even we know next to nothing about her past, but until Cognates of Paradise, we never saw, nor heard eye or hair of Luciella or her individual history. It's always been more about Raphaela, whose name I can never spell right. And with them being merged now, I doubt we'll ever know more about her history after she awakened or her own individual personality.

Ugh......alot of what you say is possible and makes sense in her certain ways, but I want to give Luciella the benefit of the doubt. Once again, we just don't know enough about her actual personality that we can determine these things and the true meaning and feelings behind her at the time.

But....as much as I want to sympathize with her....I think I would have sympathized with her more if she just asked Raphaela to protect her from Isley in case he went after her. Asking her to awaken and fight in her stead so they can both take all the lands.....

.....But their siblings, I can't blame her for expecting Raphy to agree even if, from a human/Claymore's point of view, that seems unbelievable.

Still, I like her and country girl alot more then I do Isley, that doesn't change at all XD

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Luciela is hotter...'nough said...

Well, Luciela was evil. Hell, even Isley was evil. What's common between them is that they cared about their families before "dying".

Even when dying, Luciela still tought about conquering the lands. I think she was evil. I really like the tought that she is evil.

Not trying to change you opinion, just posting my own.

dream-seeker

2009-05-31, 17:37

Hilda didn't eat guts too and she wasn't evil.

We got to see Jean's fully AB for, that's why she is on the list. And she has an awesome form.

Ah, you're right. Ophelia also hasn't eaten some guts. I just find her scary to even bite Clare's arm.:twitch:

Hilda, I don't see the usefulness of the mummy form and she's supposed to be number 6. :uhoh:

Anyway these awakening and their forms, are the Claymore warriors in control of which form they choose? Clare wants speed and power and her body awakened according to her need. Isley can shift to any weapon he prefers. :confused:

It'd be more interesting if I see Irene's awakened form. (Hopefully Raphy didn't slice her head off. That way she'll awaken like Ophelia did.) Then I'd favor for Irene's awakened form. :heh:

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 17:56

Anyway these awakening and their forms, are the Claymore warriors in control of which form they choose? Clare wants speed and power and her body awakened according to her need. Isley can shift to any weapon he prefers.

To a degree; it partly depends on what your asking.

Claire managed to awaken only her legs because that's what she needed at the time. Isley can change his arms because it's part of his awakened form and who he is.

If you're asking if they can just grow wings when it becomes convinient for them, the answer is no. Awakened forms are a representation of the character and who they are, something I went into huge detail in the Raki thread once(I think). When they awaken, what they have is what they have, they can't just grow new powers. However, Claymores are the "intermediate" stage, they can have stronger AB forms if they become stronger warriors(like Riful said). Once they awaken however, what they have, is what they're stuck with.

dream-seeker

2009-05-31, 18:16

To a degree; it partly depends on what your asking.

Claire managed to awaken only her legs because that's what she needed at the time. Isley can change his arms because it's part of his awakened form and who he is.

If you're asking if they can just grow wings when it becomes convinient for them, the answer is no. Awakened forms are a representation of the character and who they are, something I went into huge detail in the Raki thread once(I think). When they awaken, what they have is what they have, they can't just grow new powers. However, Claymores are the "intermediate" stage, they can have stronger AB forms if they become stronger warriors(like Riful said). Once they awaken however, what they have, is what they're stuck with.

Ah then, Clare's partially awakened body and those blade are part of her Character? So cool, now I really wanna see Clare fully awakened form. I can't figure out if she's a spider-like or a deer? I can't seem to imagine her true form. :D

By the way Agatha also can shift her awakened form. So as that Awakened in the western lands of Lautrec or something. After she awakened, she grew wings when it's convenient to escape from Clare, Cynthia and Yuma.

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 18:26

Ah then, Clare's partially awakened body and those blade are part of her Character? So cool, now I really wanna see Clare fully awakened form. I can't figure out if she's a spider-like or a deer? I can't seem to imagine her true form. :D

By the way Agatha also can shift her awakened form. So as that Awakened in the western lands of Lautrec or something. After she awakened, she grew wings when it's convenient to escape from Clare, Cynthia and Yuma.

If you're referring to her transforming into that big 100-foot disguise, like I said, it was already there. Just because Agatha used it then doesn't mean she just thought of it and she got the ability, it was just her first time using it.

It's the same for that AB. Other then the Abyssal Eaters, Awakened cannot adapt - they have what they're stuck with. Just because we see something for the first time doesn't mean they already didn't have it.

Clare is probably going to look like a devil of some sort, since it pretty much sums up her life and nicely parallels Priscilla's "fallen angel".

MisterJB

2009-05-31, 18:50

Dream seeker: that AB simply had the ability to grow wings. Dauf can shoot rods and I don't see every AB doing that. And I dont' also see Rigardo or Ophelia growing wings just because they need to escape.

Shiek927

2009-05-31, 21:46

Well, Luciela was evil. Hell, even Isley was evil. What's common between them is that they cared about their families before "dying".

Even when dying, Luciela still tought about conquering the lands. I think she was evil. I really like the tought that she is evil.

Not trying to change you opinion, just posting my own.

No, actually, Luciela's last thoughts were "WHY?!?!" basically to Raphaela. If humans truly reveal themselves during their death bed, certainly nothing evil about Lucy begging when she said Raph was the one person she wanted to see.

XD, we're going to be back and forth about this forever: You think their evil, I don't think their evil :heh:

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Riful's final thoughts are. Perhaps why she could never win even once. Isley had everything: an army, an ultimate weapon, the title of "King"(not sure who called him that though XD) even an apprentice and his own family. The only thing Riful ever managed to hold onto, besides being called a "country girl" was.....well....Dauf :heh:. Poor girl :heh:

One thing we both agree on apparantely, Rubel's an untrustworthy shady prick.

FragrantFlora

2009-06-01, 02:21

Funny though. I never considered Luciella evil.

MisterJB

2009-06-01, 12:30

shiek: Luciela's name is the female variant of Lucifer, did you know that?

Shiek927

2009-06-01, 13:16

shiek: Luciela's name is the female variant of Lucifer, did you know that?

No I did not, actually :twitch::), very interesting now that I think about it. I always assumed Luciela was just some fancy old-english long-version of "Lucy", or perhaps just picked because it sort of sounded like Raphaela.

XD....but really, If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, it changes nothing :heh:. As we've seen with Dietrich, Yagi isn't flawless when it comes to names. I doubt he was thinking about the Devil when he named her. Besides, Luciela really isn't all that strong; I always saw her as the weakest Abyssal; why give her such a demonic sounding name if she had a minor role? Why not give it to Riful or Priscilla?

Nice try JB :heh:

MisterJB

2009-06-01, 13:22

There has to be some symbolism to the name.

Raphaela comes from Raphael, the Archangel.

It can not be by chance. Raphaela and Luciela were two angels. Claymores in this case but if we think about it Alicia is the Dark Angel and since Rapha and Lucia were also in the soul link project, they could be considered angels, metaforically speaking of course.

Anyway, Luciela is the angel that fell to the Darkness and became the Devil, or in this case, the Abyssal One of the South. Raphaela is the Archangel whose ultimate mission is to slay the Devil in the Apocalypse.
It makes sense with the Claymore story, I think.
Are Raphael and Lucifer brothers?

Yagi is sure to give her more screentime in the future, he has already wasted Isley to some zombies. He can't simply let Luciela go unnoticed.

BTW, I would say that Luciela and Riful should have about the same strength while Isley is a little stronger

Shiek927

2009-06-01, 13:26

There has to be some symbolism to the name.

Raphaela comes from Raphael, the Archangel.

It can not be by chance. Raphaela and Luciela were two angels. Claymores in this case but if we think about it Alicia is the Dark Angel and since Rapha and Lucia were also in the soul link project, they could be considered angels, metaforically speaking of course.

Anyway, Luciela is the angel that fell to the Darkness and became the Devil, or in this case, the Abyssal One of the South.

Yagi is sure to give her more screentime in the future, he has already wasted Isley to some zombies. He can't simply let Luciela go unnoticed.

Sheeeeesh, you really want to make her out as this monster, don't you :heh:. I just have more empathy towards the Awakened, that's me.

But I get it; Fallen Angel, Hell, Abyssal of the South. Official or not, it makes sense.

And thus, the Teresa/Claire statue parallels continue.

We'll have to wait and see; however, I think it's safe to say that Luciella, as an independent person, is long gone. What's left now is Raciella, or naught.

MisterJB

2009-06-01, 13:34

Shiek927

2009-06-01, 13:36

And there is that whole, Raphaela wants to kill Luciela. That reminds me of the biblical story where it say that Raphael's ultimate mission is to slay the Devil in the Apocalypse. So, my guess is that Raphaela has to destroy Luciela in some way. She already killed her once but now there is the whole Raciella thing. Maybe Raphaela forces the Raciella entity to commit suicide.

For that, go to the Chapter 92 thread. As I said before, I don't think Raphalea was trying to kill her sister. Sleepy already his theory which makes alot of sense....and I thought you said Isley was your favorite XD

MisterJB

2009-06-01, 13:41

For that, go to the Chapter 92 thread. As I said before, I don't think Raphalea was trying to kill her sister. Sleepy already his theory which makes alot of sense....and I thought you said Isley was your favorite XD

I have yet to read the spoiler.

My favourites are Luciela, Rigardo, Isley, Agatha... and so on. Strangely, the only ABs I don't like are Riful and Dauf. And they are the only ones who didn't die. :(
Except Priscilla.

Kill them Yagi.

And I don't know where to put Jean since she is both Claymore and AB

Shiek927

2009-06-01, 13:44

I have yet to read the spoiler.

My favourites are Luciela, Rigardo, Isley, Agatha... and so on. Strangely, the only ABs I don't like are Riful and Dauf. And they are the only ones who didn't die. :(
Except Priscilla.

Kill them Yagi.

And I don't know where to put Jean since she is both Claymore and AB

I would then head over to Chapter 92 thread ASAP. Spoilers are popping up like crazy and huge discussions are coming up even faster.

I don't give a flying fudge over Dauf, though I am surprised you like so many AB's and not Riful....and Priscilla isn't dead 0_o

Jean can be both I suppose, we already saw enough of her AB form to know what she would have looked like.

MisterJB

2009-06-01, 14:00

I'll wait for the raw.

ABs are awesome. I mean, even this guys was really cool. He was everywhere during the Northern War arc. Rigardo's right hand man, I'm sure.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2aag8k8.jpg

That's one great thing about Yagi, he is consistent. You can see every single one of the ABs in Isley's army various times and you could also indentify every one of the AFs that attacked the King. Yagi doesn't just make new enemies pop out of nowhere.

Jean's form was beautiful. I always said it was a waste to not use it.

Ryuken

2009-06-01, 14:13

Jean's form was beautiful. I always said it was a waste to not use it.

A very big waste if you ask me. And I think @hell would definitely tend to agree with me on this one.:)

hell88

2009-06-01, 18:46

A very big waste if you ask me. And I think @hell would definitely tend to agree with me on this one.:)

Maybe, or maybe not.;)

Shiek927

2009-06-01, 20:39

And there is that whole, Raphaela wants to kill Luciela. That reminds me of the biblical story where it say that Raphael's ultimate mission is to slay the Devil in the Apocalypse. So, my guess is that Raphaela has to destroy Luciela in some way. She already killed her once but now there is the whole Raciella thing. Maybe Raphaela forces the Raciella entity to commit suicide.

JB, I now advise you read Cyclone's latest post on 92, It may change your stance on this issue :p

Like it or not, their are alot of inconsistancies to explain if Raphaela truly meant to kill her sister, some I think are big enough
that it's just not worth the effort to even try(the whole, one eye thing for example).

Still, I like all the possible symbolism, even if I think Yagi didn't give it that much thought when he chose those names.

FragrantFlora

2009-06-02, 03:23

I strongly agree with you guys that Jean's design was a waste. Jean was tied up at that time too. Who know what her design would really look like, if she were free. Her design is the only design that can rival Priscilla's in my opinion.

Ryuken

2009-06-02, 10:27

MisterJB

2009-06-02, 11:02

Still, I like all the possible symbolism, even if I think Yagi didn't give it that much thought when he chose those names.

I was wrong.

Raphaela does comes from Raphael, the Archangel, but he is not the one supossed to destroy Lucifer.

According to the Bible, Michael shall be the one to have the honor.

camilla

2009-06-02, 11:39

Raphaela does comes from Raphael, the Archangel, but he is not the one supossed to destroy Lucifer.

According to the Bible, Michael shall be the one to have the honor.

A Micaela would be indicated for that task. But we don't want Luciela to die, now do we?

Ryuken

2009-06-02, 14:11

I'm getting this supernatural vibe lately, have been for some time now. Maybe it's the talk of angles and demons.:)

MisterJB

2009-06-02, 14:15

I'm getting this supernatural vibe lately, have been for some time now. Maybe it's the talk of angles and demons.:)

I love that show!

Ryuken

2009-06-03, 15:56

I love that show!

Me too @JB, too bad the 3rd season has now ended.:)

ReiKoko

2009-06-03, 15:58

i voted for riful, mainly cos i like how she's usually so calm, yet everyone knows that she's really a very powerful being with the face of a child. what amuses me is her relationship with dauf and how she treats him.

others i would've voted for but didn't were jeanne, luciella and isley.

jeanne cos i agree with others that her awakened form was indeed breathtaking. but the main reason i would've picked her was cos of her sheer willpower at holding onto her human conciousness.

luciella cos i thought it was sweet how despite all those years and having awakened into a supposedly bloodthirsty being, she still missed rafaela and never even suspected that her own sister had come to kill her.

isley cos he always puzzled me. i don't know why he kept raki for so long, or why he even helped him. i'm not sure if i even liked isley or not, but i did respect his status as an abyssal one. i thought his death was unbefitting. i'd always imagined that if he were to die, it would be in a long battle with either another abyssal one, or several claymores.

Anima

2009-06-09, 01:28

@ReiKoko: I hope you noticed that you could cast multiple votes, didn't you? :)

ReiKoko

2009-06-10, 11:49

@ReiKoko: I hope you noticed that you could cast multiple votes, didn't you? :)

XD yeah i didn't realise multiple votes were allowed til AFTER i cast mine

Ryuken

2009-06-10, 15:15

XD yeah i didn't realise multiple votes were allowed til AFTER i cast mine

It's a shame in that case, but I guess it can't be helped now.:)

haegar

2009-06-14, 06:37

priscilla for her cool looks
ophelia for her nasty split personality
riful, for cool tentacle monster
rigardo, for getting claire to her limits and getting stronger, and stronger and stronger....that was freaked out
alicia, because her awakend form really looks frightening

Ryuken

2009-06-14, 13:12

rigardo, for getting claire to her limits and getting stronger, and stronger and stronger....

Now that was something that I liked Rigardo for, and he himself realized it just before he was finished off by Clare's quicksword. And in the end I think that he accepted it with open arms.:)

MisterJB

2009-06-14, 14:56

Now that was something that I liked Rigardo for, and he himself realized it just before he was finished off by Clare's quicksword. And in the end I think that he accepted it with open arms.:)

Just one since...the other had already been...you know...cut by Clare...

Ryuken

2009-06-15, 03:59

Just one since...the other had already been...you know...cut by Clare...

Now why didn't I remember that?:D

haegar

2009-06-15, 11:15

dunno ...

maybee cause with all those limbs flying around it's sometimes hard to keep track :D

klare

2009-06-18, 05:33

i voted for Isley because he looks like combat mode

2nd is Priscilla because she is the 1st Awaken i saw, and the whole plot of her with Teressa shocked me

is there a poll for the most hated Awaken?

haegar

2009-06-18, 06:33

Ryuken

2009-06-19, 11:31

which begs the question which one do you hate *g

personally i can't say i'd really hate any ...I guess there's some I like which kind of stand out to me, and the others which I don't think so cool I more or less ignore :D

I like the way you handle things @haegar.:) I also don't hate any of them, it's just a question of who is higher in the food chain.:)

Shiek927

2009-06-19, 11:58

When it comes to form, I don't really dislike or hate any of them: all of them show Yagi's incredible creativity.

When it comes to character however.....Probably Isley, never liked that schemer.

Shiek927

2009-06-19, 12:35

I hate Riful and Dauf

MisterJB..........we know

I hate Dauf too, but I think you more then made your view on Riful enough this past week :heh:

haegar

2009-06-19, 19:01

When it comes to character however.....Probably Isley, never liked that schemer.

i think hes not that bad. In the least he got a fitting death for a schemer, dying through something which he underestimated hehe. Guess he might have anihilated the full group of feeders if he head gone out full release the first time they came for him. after they began learing and returning, he could scheme and scheme and scheme until his hooves fell of but he knew he was done for it :D

but i guess i could have lived with him a while longer. that new side to him was beginning to get interesting :D

FragrantFlora

2009-06-20, 08:24

I don't really hate Dauf. I just think he's stupid. And his awakened face can make babies cry. It was senseless though to still keep him alive up to now. But if ever anyone will deal the killing strike on Riful, he'll probably jump in the way to protect her. How romantic!!! But also sad. I actually feel sad now. Ok, time to stop thinking about this.

dweller of the deep

2009-07-01, 21:25

riful and jean thay're awesome. i like rigaldo too.

Charmeya

2009-07-04, 16:30

Lucilia, Rosemary and the Six-Armed Awakened Being who fought as the first, male Awakened, are my Favourites ;)

sonotme_9FedriqSama

2009-07-12, 21:14

tentacle loli riful..., butterfly jean, Centaur Isley, catface Luciella and horn bug Priscilla are my favs...I always wondered how would jean move in her Awakened form it was so rubbery...will she be able to fly???

haegar

2009-07-13, 17:04

cool choice :D and I always wondered, too. Though i was basically wondering how she could move in that form - without flying :D - seems the only thing the form was good for :D

Awakened

2009-07-13, 22:17

cool choice :D and I always wondered, too. Though i was basically wondering how she could move in that form - without flying :D - seems the only thing the form was good for :D

She could walk with her wings.

Fenrir_valindri

2009-07-14, 16:41

She could have been able to shrink her wings/fold them, more skilled Awakened Beings due have a good amount of control of their own bodies.

camilla

2009-07-14, 16:41

I voted for Jean, Riful and Isley. I would have voted for Raciella, too. :(

haegar

2009-07-15, 05:20

Yeah, definetly would have voted for Raciella....

perhaps we can recast the poll after #100 or so, by then we even might have a few more cool ABs :D

Shiek927

2009-07-15, 11:09

I voted for Jean, Riful and Isley. I would have voted for Raciella, too. :(

You do realize you're only supposed to vote for one person :heh::p

haegar

2009-07-15, 13:21

nope, wrong :heh:

You may vote for as many characters as you desire, but you may only vote once

check the first post :P

FragrantFlora

2009-07-16, 17:26

Haha! Too bad about your vote Shieky :heh: You can vote as many as you want :)

I'm surprised Isley's 3 extra henchmen got votes although I dislike the yoki manipulator one the most.

sonotme_9FedriqSama

2009-07-17, 12:19

Loli tentecles got the most votes....even though I read in some forums...comments of many members anticipating her death :heh: guess...she's liked by many as well

Shiek927

2009-07-17, 12:22

Loli tentecles got the most votes....even though I read in some forums...comments of many members anticipating her death :heh: guess...she's liked by many as well

That's how it has to be: You can like a character, but you can't expect special treatment even if they're popular. Before you know it, Yagi will slice them in half with a fingernail :heh:

Riful...her time is coming, that's undeniable. Shame, because I'm one of her bigger fans.

camilla

2009-07-19, 12:10

You do realize you're only supposed to vote for one person :heh::p
For once I got it right and read the voting guidance expressed in the first post and the "Multiple Choice Poll" indicated below Agatha's face. :p

Serrintine

2009-07-25, 16:26

Loli tentecles got the most votes....even though I read in some forums...comments of many members anticipating her death :heh: guess...she's liked by many as well

Riful completely dominates the AB world. Sigh...her death is going to leave a permanent scar on my heart :T_T:

Vicioushellsing

2009-07-28, 01:28

I had to go with Riful. I also have a theory about Riful and how she is similiar to priscilla Where they are both in the body of a smaller child from perhaps not eating as much. Since Riful doesn't seem to be evil just wants to insure survival

MisterJB

2009-07-28, 08:14

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