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NoSanninWa
2008-01-30, 15:16
There have been many types of experiences in Claymore: sad times, exciting battles, survival against the odds, meeting new friends. If there is a scene in the show or manga that really meant something to you, feel free to post about it here. Please remember to explain why it was important to you, or else this thread could quickly become pointless and be destroyed.
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Fenrir_valindri
2008-01-30, 15:57
Seeing Isley's Awakened Form, as it was both impressive and intimidating.
Raphaela's past being revealed, this character was a mystery for a long time, and to find that she was the sister of one of the Abyssal Ones, and possibly the oldest Claymore around really made her character jump up several spaces in my book.
When the Fab 4 make their reappearance 7 years later, it really felt like they were dead for a while.
Miria's sparring match with Clare, seeing how much both Clare and Miria had advanced was really something that made me appreciate the length of time that had passed.
Not to mention Miria's new phantoms are awesome.
Riful's flashback of meeting Priscilla, it was really shifted the spotlight back onto Clare's object of vengeance.
For stuff that was in the anime:
When Ophelia was hunting Clare down, I truly felt Clare's fear during this entire Scene, it was the first time we really saw Clare's more primal emotions come out since her hybridization.
The reintroduction of Irene was also a big one for me, seeing a character I was certain was dead again truly suprised me, and I did not feel it was cheap as is the case with most anime.
Valduran
2008-01-30, 18:18
In the Anime:
Galatea taking care of 'problem-child-Clare'.
Riful's comments on Clare/Galatea/Jean's battle with Duff. And her scolding of Duff.
Ophelia's introduction and 'game'. I was like "This bitch is my kind of psycho" when I saw that. :D ... :uhoh:
I also liked the conclusion of her first battle with Clare too. When Clare permanently lost her arm and then her hand, was probably one of the most lasting impressions a scene in anime has ever made on me(Second only to the unmentionable Teresa scene of course). Over the course of that episode(including later scenes with Clare and Irene) was probably when my sympathy for Clare finally cemented.
Miria's first sparring match with Clare. (Probably one of my favorite fights in the anime...maybe the fact that it is like the only fight in the entire series that is fully animated gives it bonus points? :D)
The bandit's attempted rape of Teresa, Clare attacking him and Teresa defending her, the tears from silver eyes, etc... That was probably when I realised I was going to love Claymore.
In the manga: None so far really...the anime did all my favorite scenes alot better :(
Although there have been quite a few really cool moments in the post-anime manga chapters, manga just doesn't make quite the same impression on me as anime.
Although I think this is worth mentioning:
Helen: So like... who are we even saving? Those girls from the organization ... or the abyssal one?
Deneve: ...
Deneve: Are you seriously asking that?
Helen: Nah...
That's probably my favorite Helen moment. ^^
Spectacular_Insanity
2008-01-30, 20:33
Hmm...
Raki's determination to stay with Clare forever, even if it meant dying when Clare went over her limits in the holy city was the first emotional moment of the series and really got me permanently attached to Claymore.
I have to say Teresa's scenes all were great. The attempted rape, the comment about Clare being like a pet, and her beating down the other 4 members of the top 5 (at the same time, mind you), all were great scenes. However, Teresa's scene with Clare where Teresa actually breaks down and sheds tears was probably the most emotional scene for me. I was crying too... manly tears of course.
The scenes with Clare + Raki vs. Ophelia were truly terrifying and I seriously was worried that someone I liked was going to die... again. I also liked the part when the AB twisted Ophelia's nack around. Her quip then was quite amusing, even though Ophelia ended up living.
Clare, Jeane, and Galatea's fight scene was fantastic, and I liked how Clare made a friend and finally got some damn respect.
The scene with Rigald losing an arm and looking down as his stump and having no reaction because he just couldn't believe it. Superb. Again, Clare finally got some damn respect.
Jeane sacrificing her life to save Raki and Clare's. She threw herself into Clare as she almost killed Raki and Priscilla together and synced her youki with Clare's, restoring her but killing Jeane. I cried. Jeane was probably my favorite Claymore other than Teresa. I didn't want her to die. T_T
Devilz911
2008-01-30, 22:11
Scene 59 - Invasion of Pieta III (When Clare beats Rigaldo, awesome moment in Claymore)
Scene 23 - Marked for Death VI (Teresa dies, one of the reason why Claymore is popular)
Scene 15 - Teresa of the Faint Smile IV (Teresa shows style by pwning her executors and leaving the organization, awesome.)
Scene 67 - Together with the Soul III (Clare vs Miria fight was interesting, I liked seeing the new changes after time passed.)
1. Ophelia's pre-awakening scenes. Her introduction, The fighting of the single-digit AB, the cat-and-mouse catch up. I like the fact that she is so obsessed with fighting ABs to the point where she get involved in a stupid single-sided argument ignoring a tough AB standing in front of her. Being so confident that she is gonna kill and rip each AB and the amusement (that's actually my favorite) she shows when she knew that Clare was using yoki flow detection to block her attacks.
2. Ophelia's post-awakening. The part when she discovers she's awakened. I felt sorry for her. I just love Ophelia :D
3. Teresa taking on the top 4 claymores all by herself without being scratched. That was epic. 'nuff said.
4. Rigardo's recalling memories of a fun battle and getting serious against Clare. Mainly the BGM of that scene makes me like it more :D
5. Rafaela's reunion with Luciela mainly because of my theory about forced reverting and the potential of the greatest twist in Claymore yet but it seems nobody likes it (judging by replies in that thread :p)
@NoSanninWa: Teresa's death scene was intense but I would never call it a favorite since it killed my favorite char in Claymore. :mad:
NoSanninWa
2008-01-31, 02:14
@NoSanninWa: Teresa's death scene was intense but I would never call it a favorite since it killed my favorite char in Claymore. :mad:
No? Maybe I really should remove that rule. I might have made an unwarated assumption. Let's discover the truth together, after all that is what discussion is all about. Overmoderation is a sin I should not commit.
My favorite scene in Claymore was Theresa's death. It was powerful and moving. Sure it was painful, but that meant it was important to me. Right there I knew that I was never going to stop reading a title if it could make me care so much.
1. The first scene in Rabona, its reminded me the most for medieval time so I like it very much.
2. Slashers episodes. Nice scenery, nice fight. Aware of Clare is a weakling but even not as much.
3. Probably Witch's Maw my fav scene. Galatea appears again and show how cool is she^^, recognized Dauf is a big crying baby and saw a cool fight. My fav moment when Clare realize how to use her quick sword and its surprise Riful.
4. Invasion of Pieta: fight against Rigardo. I like the moment when Clare is running in slowmo :) and that was an arm lol^^ and then Rigardo just looking his stump.
5. The 7ghost appears(I belief things quickly :uhoh:)and improved a lot.
6. Riful collecting allie, Miria's team save the weaklings^^.
I like all of the Teresa scenes, especially the meeting with Clare and beating the former top Claymores. Same here, I never liked Teresa's death scene:(
Valerian Mengsk
2008-01-31, 11:17
Wow koffy, that's most of the manga!
Hehe, I'm right there with you. The list of my favorite scenes nearly match all the scenes in the manga.
Some moments really made me feel something. Thats one of the things I love about this manga I guess.
GOOD moments: Teresa killing the Yoma without even a fight in Clare's village. How each villager who cries "murderer!" is actually a Yoma. The fourth one who doesnt even realize he's been owned till he turns his head :heh:
Her "smile" that Irene talks about is her cool confidence. Thats one thing I loved about her.
When Clare goes to help the other Claymores and meets Dauf. Awesome fight. Dauf crying when Clare hits him, and Jean drilling a hole through him. Riful sits there making interesting comments. When she threatens to leave him Dauf's reaction is priceless, lol. Kickass!
"the Slashers" scenes. how Miria and Clare take down the AB, the four of them surviving nasty wounds. Seeing Clare's abilities devolop. It felt good to see them bond and start becoming a team. Till then it didn't seem like any of the claymores gave a S*** about the others, I got tired of seeing them kill each other.
SAD moments: almost anytime a claymore dies, but especially, Teresa of course, because she was amazing. The battle in Pieta, where so many of them died. Especially Flora, she was sexy! Damn you Rigald :frustrated: I got some consolation when Clare put him through the "Human Chainsaw". Its a cruel world though and we'll probably see more of it.
Ophelia's fight with Clare was pretty intense, I was on the edge of my seat. I had a love/hate thing going on for Ophelia, she was nasty but I kinda liked her and was hoping she would stick around and start playing nice for a change. Her dying was sad but necessary I guess...
Last one was when Irene talks to Clare about Teresa. Clare knowing that it was partly her fault, wanting to be stronger, and feeling the pain of her loss again, all at the same time. Very emotional scene.
Ergon, all of those scenes were in the anime so the spoiler is kinda extra. ;)
And it seems many people like Ophelia despite her cruelty. Yagi must have put a spell in Ophelia scenes! :D
@Anima: Regaring the Rafaela spoiler and your pet theory... in my own case, the problem with that is not that its uncool, but that there really isn't any set up for it. Out of the blue things happening often doesn't seem good. I think Irene was enough in that area... or maybe Raki returning a Claymore... :)
As much as I hated Raki, especially towards the end of the anime... In the manga he seems quite decent. I especially liked when Isley slashed his sword towards him and Raki didn't even bat an eye... even if you see that often for strong, or would be strong characters in fantasy, it was still pretty nice.
@Anima: Regaring the Rafaela spoiler and your pet theory... in my own case, the problem with that is not that its uncool, but that there really isn't any set up for it. Out of the blue things happening often doesn't seem good. I think Irene was enough in that area... or maybe Raki returning a Claymore... :)
I don't think that my theory is out of the blue. I compared incidents and found similarities between them. Of course I could be completely wrong (hence it's a theory) but I believe there is some possibility to it being true unless of course someone counter my thoughts with facts from the manga that I couldn't comprehend or Yagi just telling us explicitly that Luciela is dead.
Im actually quite surprised that no one has mentioned the part where Teresa goes beserk and kills the whole band of bandits after they raided the whole town. That scene in particular had a huge impact for me, I loved when she told them that she was going to kill them for they are lower than Yoma =). and of course the scene where she breaks down in tears after she realizes that she was being the one comforted by Chibi-Clare.
How Clare suprises her comrades at Slasher part. She get's up, and evades AB's attaks, sending Miria in awe.
Oh, and then the Ophelia vs. Clare and Clare. vs. Priccy at the end. Aaaaand Clare vs. Gald and Sid, basikally most of the fights.
CitizenGeek
2008-02-02, 05:44
It has to be Clare's fight against Riful's minion (can't remember his name, think it began with a 'd'?)!
It has to be Clare's fight against Riful's minion (can't remember his name, think it began with a 'd'?)!
It's Dauf/Duff.
Ummmm.... I'd vote for the flying octopus scene, lol :heh: it was emphisezed both in the manga and anime likewise.... As slowly teresa's consciousness discipated and only three words remained, which claire later on heard every time she placed her palm on her upper chest... "Kill that *itch!"
My favourite scene is and will always be the NEXT one in the NEXT chapter.
I hope we get a flash back so your certainty would be ruined :p j/k
I'd add:
The sight of the 7 ghosts in their cloaks hiding their faces (last 2 pages in chapter 77). Oh, the excitement!
yezhanquan
2008-02-05, 09:36
For me, it's the scene where Deneve regenerated her arm. Her expression screams "murder" and yet, she later got a hole through the gut =X.
If I might add as well:
The whole ch# 70 was awesome. Riful deceiving Audrey and Ray and then showing her superiority with such coldness is just great. It really shows that an AB could fool around. The scene where Audrey lands a direct sword thrust at Riful's head just to see that it just gave her a little push! Superb toughness! :D
The ghosts showing up and stealing the spot light was also great.
Ye ye my fav scene too^^. I just smiled when Audrey recognized Riful's covered yoki :)
Maybe its becouse of my Riful obsession, I really hopeing for chapters like this.
For me, it's the scene where Deneve regenerated her arm. Her expression screams "murder" and yet, she later got a hole through the gut =X.
Haha! yeah, that's my second fav scene! thus my avatar... :heh:
[thousandmaster]
2008-02-05, 18:46
My favorite part was Raki facing off against Ophelia so he could protect Clare. He sure got guts doing something like that, against a psyco claymore no less. Raki deserves a metal of courage for what he did. :bow:
Yeah, that was courageous of him but keep in mind he didn't really know she was a complete psycho. The adolescent kid had a crush on Clare and wouldn't accept someone putting her hands under her T-shirt :p
[thousandmaster]
2008-02-05, 19:52
Yeah, that was courageous of him but keep in mind he didn't really know she was a complete psycho. The adolescent kid had a crush on Clare and wouldn't accept someone putting her hands under her T-shirt :p
Psycho or not, he had the 'fellows' (don't ask) to face a claymore. lol lol lol
I think he may have been banking on the Claymores don't kill humans. Still showed some guts since there's nothing that says Claymores can't punch humans. I think my favorite scene would be when Helen first meets Jeane. That or any scene where Helen has an apple.
Lol! There was one part which the director of the anime included that wasn't in the manga. In all of Raki's curiousity of Clare's whereabouts during the campfire scene and his eventual supposition the she went to drop some cargo, commenting on the size.... of the cargo. :twitch:
Blackmoon042
2008-02-09, 00:50
I have three favorite scenes I can think of, two of which are sort of "combined" into a feeling for me:
1.) The first was near the end of episode 6 where Teresa had just left Clare at the village where she (Clare) was about to live, and the bandits attacked, then Teresa returned, and she broke the rules of the Organization by killing humans which include the leader of the bandits and the one who was about to abuse/rape Clare. The scene after that where Teresa was supposed to be executed, however, yet again, she defies the Organization, probably because she had started to develop feelings for Clare, and then when a member of the Organization said, "You'll regret this, Teresa", she responds with "I won't. There's no way I will."
To me, this was very touching, how a Claymore such as Teresa -- a Claymore who was the best of her generation, and with being the best, usually comes some dedication, had managed to "soften up", and start to care for and become attached to Clare.
At the part where the bandit is dragging Clare away in the village and wickedly says "Yo. It's you. You forgot something here? I'll take care of this girl, don't fret. I'll make sure to give her lots of love, so don't worry. She's so cute when she screams and cries, calling, 'Teresa... Teresa...' and such", and then when Teresa widens her eyes open in shock, most viewers can tell that she is, in actuality, shocked, and then when she proceeds to instantly kill him, one can tell that she really does love Clare.
Then the scene right after, where Teresa and Clare are at the execution site, with Clare crying and Teresa about to be killed, instead of letting them execute her, she makes the decision (at the last moment?) to live on for Clare. To me, this absolutely confirmed Teresa's devotion and love for Clare, especially how she walks away with a defiant air.
Both of these parts made me cry. Sooo touching, IMO. :sad: :D
2.) + 3.) At the end of episode 8, where Priscilla had just partially awakened and killed Teresa, Clare is simply helpless against Priscilla, so helpless that Priscilla ignores her (I think?). Later, in episodes 25 and 26, where Clare partially awakens, I thought: "Wow, Clare had grown so much; she had grown from being a little, human girl whom Priscilla hadn't even bothered to attack/kill, to a semi-awakened being who was able to fight near on par to Priscilla fully awakened." What makes it even better, IMO, is because it was all for revenge for Teresa, and becoming a monster to fight a monster due to her love for Teresa ^^ and hate for Priscilla. I dunno, the anime makes it seem like she's doing it more out of hate for Priscilla, but that stems out of her love for Teresa... So maybe it's more for her love for Teresa? *shrugs*
When you take in the whole picture behind Clare becoming a Claymore, I think it makes a great, emotional story.
Quite a bit of growth, IMO.
Sorry for the long post. :( I just <3 Claymore.
1. all of teresa's scenes and especially the death of teresa
2. riful flashback of seeing that thing* (that biotch called Priscilla)
3. Priscilla awaken (her awaken's form is cool)
1. "She taught me that tears can flow, even from Silver eyes"
2. Clare's youki reading against the first AB.
3. Irene's return.
4. Jean's restoration and the final fight against Dauf.
5. Raki not flinching when Isley swings his sword at him and Isley saying that apparently the kid isn't completely worthless :P [manga] (not really one of my favorites but whatever)
6. The awakening against Rigardo
7. Clare not being owned by Miria after the timeskip :P
8. #3 and #5 fighting Riful and realizing that the shit had hit the fan.
9. Miata protecting Clarice from Agatha, and Clarice finally coming to her senses(her hopelessness tends to be rather funny).
Zsych, cover the manga ones with spoiler tags. :)
If your favorite scene was in the manga always use spoiler tags. Use a title for the spoiler tags that says if it as in the US version, or from the Japanese version that Viz has not yet published. Don't spoil those who only read licensed manga.
my favourtie scene ... well the one that keeps in my mind... is when galatea turns it up a notch against dauf
and releases some yoki
well that whole , claire/galatea vs dauf has to be my favourite
One scene that really captivated me was when Raki and Clare split up during the time Ophelia was killing that one awakened. Clare and Raki kissing was so emotional, I felt the love and care they had for each other. They treasured their relationship and promised each other they would stay alive. Wow... that moment was really special.
... if I were to look at that scene... a master kissing her dog is closer to what I would imagine :P
Raki seems to kinda worship her, and Clare... not sure what she thinks of him, but how close can you be to someone basically inferior and 99% useless to you, except as a form of pity.
I'm not understanding you Zsych...
If there was no raki, we wouldn't see a soft side, a love side, to Clare. She would just be another woman under the organization killing off one youma after the other. Clare's life would be boring and with no meaning. Raki is able to bring out the another side of clare, the one that probably everyone likes (similar to Theresa caring for clare), and enriches clare's life in a way.
NoSanninWa
2008-02-20, 02:40
This is not one of the threads where it is acceptable to discuss Raki's place in the story vs just hating him. Please lets not drag this into a long off-topic fugue.
HelloMrBrahms
2008-02-20, 04:36
Haha! yeah, that's my second fav scene! thus my avatar... :heh:
^^;
my favorite scene is also my avatar. almost like a resurrected Teresa
it was also pretty much a given how clare was gonna get a powerup after. ^^;
my other favorite scene was in the extra manga how Teresa released her yoma powers against rosemary. that was definitely awesome!
Teresa doesn't seem to have gotten a powerup from the dream itself though. Not that I wouldn't have appreciated Clare finding an inner link with Teresa somehow.
@Cipher: Keeping it short... don't think Raki made the difference to her that she did to Teresa. I agree though that without him or someone else to interact with, there are sides of her personality that we wouldn't have seen.
There's another scene that's worth about a million bucks.. I think ppl will agree with me on that one.
The official Miria introduction as "Phantom Miria" in the slashers, when the male AB commented on her speed; In the Anime it was just a glorious scene, no more no less. With that creepy, electronic "tee dam tee dam" sound and the close up on Miria's face. Awesome...! (drools on that moment)
Fenrir_valindri
2008-02-21, 00:23
Yeah, Miria's nickname is still one of the best in the series, only Teresa of the Faint Smile matches it for awesomness.
In the manga btw, Teresa's smile wasn't that faint really :confused: Infact it was more mockingly annoying..
In the anime on the other hand it was perfect! just faint enough to be creepy.... Like on one of the dolls in one of those 17th century gothic doll houses....
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7029/claymore520080221162450jc3.jpg
HelloMrBrahms
2008-02-21, 12:09
the cool thing about Teresa's nickname is that is does not imply power or even any sort of threatening will. Every other claymore's nickname is one that is supposed to instill fear in another [usually the name of their special skill]. it seems whoever gave her the name decided that she was so powerful that a mild name like Faint Smile would be fearful enough, to one who knew about her.
Awakened
2008-02-21, 14:25
One of my favorite is when Clare escapes from Ophelia, then realizing that Ophelia was waiting for her.
I was just as shocked as Clare.
SoulesS69
2008-02-25, 22:18
all flora scenes ^^
anime and manga
Fenrir_valindri
2008-02-25, 23:05
In the manga btw, Teresa's smile wasn't that faint really :confused: Infact it was more mockingly annoying..
In the anime on the other hand it was perfect! just faint enough to be creepy.... Like on one of the dolls in one of those 17th century gothic doll houses....
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7029/claymore520080221162450jc3.jpg
Meh, I actually prefer the manga smile, that particular smile in that image was actually one of my least favorite anime views of Teresa :P
My favourite scene is when Jean died to bring Clare back.
Ah, a fellow Jean fan :) Yeah, she was definetly the most noble of all claymores. I doubt any of the fab 7 would sacrifice themselves for a comrade; Yes, even Miria wouldn't I think.
Oh wait, Yuma would gladly do it.
HAHA Yuma would probably do it if Clare told her too.
King Lycan
2008-03-03, 19:20
._. all scenes that Ilene were expect with the priscilla AB scene
Yeah I don't like that scene either, and I don't like Priscilla's awakened form.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-03, 22:38
Hehe, I thought that scene was quite well done, and a number of people (including an art major friend of mine) consider Priscilla's AB form to be one of the better ones in the series.
Of course most people just don't like that scene due to Teresa's death. :p
King Lycan
2008-03-03, 22:40
lol yea cheap shot
The recent ownage of Agatha was kinda cool
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2008-03-04, 01:40
For me its more like favorite scenes:
Entire Teresa arc was just so moving but I particulerly
liked this part
When the bandits came to the town were Clare was and Teresa sees Clare , she just has such a horrified face. And then , Swish!! " Say your prayes retches!" And then she kills them all! You know you all were like die bandits die!(sorry, I guess I 've just been watching too much Death Note:p) But I was just filled with Morbid Satisfaction at this part. We rarely get scenes like this, were the bad guys get just what they deserve.
When Jean died saving Clare :upset: I was like NO Jean No and then Clare breaking down "I am the weakest of all Claymores. Why are you dead and not me" Hear face was so sad :(
When Clare starts Awakening in Piata. As she completly Awakens all her limbs and they show the close up of her closeing in on Rigaldo. Regaldo is just in awa and he says "Superb" An Amazing Moment!! Yagi-san is my Hero what an incredible Artist!
For me its more like favorite scenes:
Entire Teresa arc was just so moving but I particulerly
liked this part
When the bandits came to the town were Clare was and Teresa sees Clare she just has such a horrified face. And then , Swish!! " Say your prayes retches!" And then she kills them all. You know you all were like die bandits die!(sorry, I guess I 've just been watch too much Death Note:p) But I was just filled with Morbid Satisfaction at this part. We rarely get scenes like this, were the bad guys get just what they deserve.
When Jean died saving Clare :upset: I was like NO Jean No and then Clare breaking down "I am the weakest of all Claymores. Why are you dead and not me" Hear face was so sad :(
When Clare starts Awakening in Robana. As she completly Awakens all her limbs and they show the close up of her closeing in on Rigaldo. Regaldo is just in awa and he says "Superb" An Amazing Moment!! Yagi-san is my Hero what an incredible Artist!
OH, that town scene with the bandits, Teresa, and Clare was for sure one of the best. Teresa's eyes, expression, and actions were just WOW! And Clare awakening in the manga was awesome too. Partial awakening so hot!
chibamonster
2008-03-06, 14:14
I was floored when Clare introduced herself as number 47 to Miria, Helen and Deneve. Especially when Helen explained there were only 47 slots available. At the time we knew about the ranking system from Teresa and had met numbers 1-5. After seeing how royally Teresa destroyed the youma it seemed to me like Clare should be fairly tough for inheriting her strength. How wrong I was. I just sat there thinking, Clare is the weakest one? THE WEAKEST? What? Raki's response was pretty good too.
It was so different than what I expected to see that it has to be one of my favorite moments.
I was floored when Clare introduced herself as number 47 to Miria, Helen and Deneve. Especially when Helen explained there were only 47 slots available. At the time we knew about the ranking system from Teresa and had met numbers 1-5. After seeing how royally Teresa destroyed the youma it seemed to me like Clare should be fairly tough for inheriting her strength. How wrong I was. I just sat there thinking, Clare is the weakest one? THE WEAKEST? What? Raki's response was pretty good too.
It was so different than what I expected to see that it has to be one of my favorite moments.
I thought Clare was fairly tough as well, until I found out she's the weakest. Then I started thinking about how powerful some claymores must be, and I was like HOLY CRAP!
Kikaifan
2008-03-07, 13:50
Irene's return. I'd been waiting for it for a while, beginning to doubt... then bam! cloaked stranger, just desserts for Ophelia. Ophelia was a pretty scary Ax Crazy and a good character in that sense but in the end I just can't bring myself to like a sadist, even a fictional one.
First Awakened Being hunt. The fight wasn't so great for me, but the discussion afterwards and Galatea's descriptions of their emotions and the conflict in the group gave me chills for some reason. Getting introduced to Miria, Galatea, and the weakness and greatness of Clare all in one arc was great value-for-time, too.
chibamonster
2008-03-07, 13:58
When I first read through the manga I had no idea that Irene was still alive. I was convinced she had been slaughtered along with Sophia and Noella. It was so incredible to see Ophelia get so royally owned after seeing the power gap between her and Clare. Then I had the strangest desire to poke Irene's nose and say "beep". And pull one of her ears for some reason.
I went nuts when Miria said, "We are already awakened."
When I first read through the manga I had no idea that Irene was still alive. I was convinced she had been slaughtered along with Sophia and Noella. It was so incredible to see Ophelia get so royally owned after seeing the power gap between her and Clare. Then I had the strangest desire to poke Irene's nose and say "beep". And pull one of her ears for some reason.
I went nuts when Miria said, "We are already awakened."
For some reason I wanted to pull one of her ears too, but now that I think about it mabye Irene's ears are like that from being pulled too much. Lol
I like the whole chapter but I mostly like when Miria did that #!@* awesome cleave on Agatha :D.
zer0suit
2008-04-13, 22:11
Galatea, Jean, and Clare fighting Duff
Docile Yoma
2008-04-14, 02:22
so many memorable scenes, though the only one I can distinctly think of right now since a few of you mentioned the teresa vs bandits chapter is
towards the end when teresa is holding a just-woken-up clare, and the scene pans out to show they're sitting amidst a circle of blood and bodies =D
That was a good scene, it was a good way to end that episode.
Another one of my favourite scenes would be when Clare and Miria killed that six armed awakened being.
ClaFanN1
2008-04-15, 19:53
My favourite scene in claymore is when Clare fully awakens and the simple aura of the transformation destroys the whole surrounding mountains.
This scene is from Claymore Season 2, to be released in 2010...
Sorry i just took doraemon's time machine...
the Introduction of Ophelia and the "game" she plays with Clair, one of my favourite characters, so evil its fun to watch.
TheSilver-EyedKiller
2008-04-16, 22:50
hi!!! my favorite scenes are the dead of jeane and when deneve took the undine´s sword to fight for revenge.......
Sleepy Speculator
2008-04-18, 13:54
Any scene with Helen's jaw scraping the ground as Clare does something outrageous again...Come on someone tell her about that arm...
chibamonster
2008-04-18, 14:40
The surprise of when Miria realized they had been sent to hunt a male AB when up until that point we had only heard of female warriors. It made my brain do a 180 thinking of the implications like that there must have been male warriors at some point in the distant past.
when I first saw ritful I wanted to hug her.
and when in Vol. one when clare kills her friend
and in chapter 78when galatea says "you cut my hair" she knew that the AB was dead meet
I was thinking about all my favourite scenes then I watched a clip of the end of episode 26 when Teresa's ghost is standing where Jean's sword is. I actually got kind of mad at that, because its Jean's sword, why the hell is Teresa thier, it should be Jean. They should of had Teresa standing somewhere else. I'm sure there are other Jean fans that would agree.
I'm sure there are other Jean fans that would agree.
Why do people like Jean so much? I really don't understand it.
- She's manly.
- She's not too strong.
- She has a terrible haircut.
- She looks disgusting with her arm drilled and dedrilled.
- She was Clares pet.
- She died not too many chapters after she was introduced.
- Her AB form looks more like a toy than an AB.
chibamonster
2008-04-24, 02:32
Jean also spends most of her time without clothing. No one else does that but the recent appearance of Agatha. Jean has one of the most powerful attacks, cares for her friends and subordinates, is loyal, trustworthy, honorable, grateful, willing to sacrifice herself for the good of others and so on. She does not give into the claymore number based elitism. While she did want revenge against Duff for torturing her subordinates she never went berserk. Jean keeps a cool head no matter what. Jean has rock solid will power and morales of steel. She saves Clare by sacrificing herself keeping a promise she made and she dies with a smile on her face. Jean's first thought after being attacked by Rigald was not how to save herself but the need to protect the other leaders for the survival of the others.
Jean does not seem to be skilled at youki reading or necessarily a great leader but she gives it her all and leads from the front. She is the weakest single digit (until her partial awakening possibly). She must know she is weaker than Clare. Her life debt is not to someone weaker than her. Clare risked a lot to save her and not just once. Jean is quiet but honest.
Jean, like every other claymore, probably had a very difficult past. Yet unlike Ophelia she clung to her human side to the point that Galatea knew she would die before awakening. Jean was able to stare Riful in the face while being tortured as legitimate arguments were made about them being the same type of monster without her resolve ever fading. Even as she passed her limit and her body transformed uncontrollably she held on to her human heart enough to keep her limbs from breaking her restraints. Even with a completely awakened body Jean was happy that Clare would end her life as a 'human'. She cried and begged Clare to end it quickly as she could not hold it any longer. I think Jean is up there with Clare tending Teresa and blind-Rabona Galatea for noble Claymores in the series except Jean was that way the whole time we saw her.
But I agree that Jean has a terrible hair cut. I really do not like her hair cut. It makes me forget that she is a hot chick like every other claymore. She does not have eye brows either.
Thanks chibamonster :)
As for regarding Jean's AB form, IMO, it's the most unique one. Indeed, it was one my favorite scenes where her awakened form was revealed.
I thought her haircut was very befitting for her char.
AthenAltena
2008-04-24, 08:42
I loved the whole "you cut my hair" exchange just because it was so fitting for them and emphasized how owned Agatha was.
For me it would be the one where little Clair reaches out to Teresa. This scene is so intense that it makes Teresa cry. And who would have thought that someone could make the mighty Teresa cry.
Don't you agree guys?
Also one of my favorite scenes (only in the anime, not in the manga) was when Theresa was killed. I was pissed and stuff but this scene was so surprising and the sound kinda... superb.
kill me kill me (sad slow music) I will kill you it's the last thing I can do for you bla bla (still sad slow music) WUSH (music stops) kling kling of Theresas sword and then her head falling, everything going really fast and unexpected after this point. IMO it's a cinematic masterstroke (maybe the onliest one in the whole series) that's why I watched this scene about 20 times :rolleyes:
I'm really happy now that the Theresa worshippers don't know where I live :heh:
I liked all the parts with Ophelia, she's just great.
I also like all the parts with Galatea, my favorite character, 'cause she's one of the best claymores.
Ummm, the last chapter is great, when clarice comes to Rabona, I was like: "History repeats itself"; another weak warrior, number 47, comes with someone to town and meets Sid and Galk.
But then Clare shows up, and Sid sees her, and yells: "It is her!".
Ummm, from the Extra (manga), when Isley bows to Priscilla, and when Riful comes to kill him, and he sits there, naked on the floor (I think), when Priscilla puts her hand on his head; he laughs and says to Riful that she has no chance against her.
you named almost every scene and most of them are my fav (in anime and manga); but it's obvious - Claymore is full of breath-taking scenes (I think).
I like very much that one in Pieta, when those 3 AB atacked the city. Flora's team fought that "turtle" and the moment he controled all members of the team - situation was very bad and ... Clare uses Quicksword (BANG!!!) - that was amasing :D
And Flora's face ->:twitch: priceless
("...in my team no. 39 i 47 are useless" lol )
DazarGaidin
2008-04-29, 08:13
My favorite scene is where clare and teresa are hugging and teresa's realization that clare was comforting her. Hands down.
My favorite scene is where clare and teresa are hugging and teresa's realization that clare was comforting her. Hands down.
Me and you think alike.:heh:
Why do people like Jean so much? I really don't understand it.
- She's manly.
- She's not too strong.
- She has a terrible haircut.
- She looks disgusting with her arm drilled and dedrilled.
- She was Clares pet.
- She died not too many chapters after she was introduced.
- Her AB form looks more like a toy than an AB.
- Jean's has a nice character and she cares about her friends, she's not a monster like others (e.g.: ophelia)
- Jean's is pretty strong, she is the only among all claymores which can penetrate duff's rigid body.
- Her haircut is at most original making her unique.
- She was loyal to clare because she felt in debt for her, she only wanted to retribute the favour.
- Flora died as well after few time and did much less in the fight againt rigardo.
- Her AB form is beautifull, a butterfly.
- You're a completely wrong about jean, maybe your taste is terrible, you gotta love priscilla :)
Jean is not manly.. Undine is, Rachel is but not Jean.. She may have that SSJ3 vibe about her but that's what makes her so cool. :p
Wow with so many people defending Jean I won't have too. YAY!!!! LOL
Not even Undine is manly...her relaxed form is pretty delicate remember? :)
Manly = RACHEL (new nº 5)
Yeah but Undine still has that scruffy axl rose voice going on.. Jean's is just falsly made deep to sound badass. :p
Yeah but Undine still has that scruffy axl rose voice going on.. Jean's is just falsly made deep to sound badass. :p
It would have been funny in the war in the north when Undine killed that awakened being with Deneve, if Undine yelled out WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!:heh: Instead of that stuff that she says to Deneve about being born weak or something like that.
yezhanquan
2008-04-30, 21:47
Mitsuishi Kotono (Jean's VA) = manly? Man (no pun intended), what does that make Romi-san (who did Teresa)?
Surprised that no one mentioned this one yet.
I really like the camp fire scene when Irene talks about Teresa and Clare begins to weep. It's simple, yet touching and cathartic. The kind of emotion that it invokes pretty much sums up why I love the series.
I've watched that part repeatedly and I just can't watch it without getting a lump in the throat every time.
Surprised that no one mentioned this one yet.
I really like the camp fire scene when Irene talks about Teresa and Clare begins to weep. It's simple, yet touching and cathartic. The kind of emotion that it invokes pretty much sums up why I love the series.
I've watched that part repeatedly and I just can't watch it without getting a lump in the throat every time.
I think that part could have been longer. I also think that Clare's training with Irene should have been longer and that we would know what happened to Irene once Raphaela showed herself because I have been waiting forever to find out if she is still alive or not.
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2008-05-14, 01:49
For me besides the teresa arc the most moveing moment would have to be when Jean died. I know that many people have said this before me but still....
" Jean, No... this can't be true, please open you eyes.... Jean. How can this be!? Why did you die? I am the weakest of all Claymores!
Then why are you the one that is dead and not me.!?
That was almost as sad for me as Teresa's death. I really liked, Jean she was cool and perhaps the most honorable
of all of the Claymores. But more then that was Clares reaction to her death. It was the first time since Teresa died that
Clare has really broken down. She always is so so cold and the only emotion she ever shows is anger. I mean she shed a
few tears when she was with Ilena but that wasn't the same. Since Teresa died Clare hasn't cared about anything but revenge,
but with Raki's entrence Clare has been gaining friends and slowly opening herself back up again only to have Jean die. What's worse
she died saving her.
And more, for once we get a look at Clares insucurities. She calls herself the weakest Claymore. Whenever her rank has come
up in the past Clare had been calm about it and you had the feeling that she was going to try to 'prove them all wrong.' so to speak.
But this time Clare admites to bieng weak and helpless. I just feel that since Teresa died, that that was the worst thing to happen to Clare.
And at that point while I was sobbing with Clare,( NO... Not Jean! WAHHH), I was just thinking.
Leave Clare alone, hasn't she suffered enough?
Galatea's entrance was pretty cool to me. After the crazy scenes with Ophelia, in which I don't think I've seen in other anime before, I seriously thought all the top 5 Claymores are whack and borderline insane (I hit the mark pretty much, for Alicia, Beth, and Ophelia anyways). But having a high-ranked warrior who actually cares for lower fighters (pretty much everyone is below Galatea in her generation aside from the two mindless twins) is something not so common, at least in my understanding of the Claymore world.
Either that, or Teresa's death. Usually in many stories the 'senior figure' to the protagonist usually doesnt die in an 'indignified' way, and even has time to say some meaningful last words to the main character before she dies. Claymore's different from that, and I appreciated it.
For me besides the teresa arc the most moveing moment would have to be when Jean died. I know that many people have said this before me but still....
" Jean, No... this can't be true, please open you eyes.... Jean. How can this be!? Why did you die? I am the weakest of all Claymores!
Then why are you the one that is dead and not me.!?
That was almost as sad for me as Teresa's death. I really liked, Jean she was cool and perhaps the most honorable
of all of the Claymores. But more then that was Clares reaction to her death. It was the first time since Teresa died that
Clare has really broken down. She always is so so cold and the only emotion she ever shows is anger. I mean she shed a
few tears when she was with Ilena but that wasn't the same. Since Teresa died Clare hasn't cared about anything but revenge,
but with Raki's entrence Clare has been gaining friends and slowly opening herself back up again only to have Jean die. What's worse
she died saving her.
And more, for once we get a look at Clares insucurities. She calls herself the weakest Claymore. Whenever her rank has come
up in the past Clare had been calm about it and you had the feeling that she was going to try to 'prove them all wrong.' so to speak.
But this time Clare admites to bieng weak and helpless. I just feel that since Teresa died, that that was the worst thing to happen to Clare.
And at that point while I was sobbing with Clare,( NO... Not Jean! WAHHH), I was just thinking.
Leave Clare alone, hasn't she suffered enough?
Thanks for reminding me how sad that was to watch.:(:sad:
Griffen-Derek
2008-05-20, 18:43
I got a few fav scenes in mind. Let's see:
In the manga:
The kiss - for being a surprise and showing Clare is clearly more human than common humans.
Jin's death - really touching.
Rigardo's death - "SUPERB" - not further comments needed ;)
Clare's first fight against the 5 Youma - her strenght is so obvious they don't show it in the anime, only to enforce the doubts on Clare's really strenght... would be a great anime scene...
In the anime:
The monstrous clash of swords between Irene and Teresa, then between Teresa and Priscila.
The talks between Irene and Clare.
Clare's resolve to survive, right after Miria's first revelations. her willpower can be felt there. very intense.
The fear in Clare's eyes, seeing death under the madness of Ophelia.
Irene slashing Ofelia all over, thus saving Clare.
Clare in her black hood and suit, fighting Cid and Galk on the rooves with daggers. Extremely Elegant, Classy, Sexy!!! So Ghost-like!! And such a beauty!!!
my fav scenes is when rapheale meets teresa and how teresa introduces herself.
Mandrake
2008-05-24, 17:52
The rooftop scene with the second fight between Galk and the other guy, trying to fight íncognito Clare. Ep 3. The cinematics plus animation and (my favourite Claymore music track) puts this scene in very high regards XD
Synyster
2008-06-06, 11:44
I love when Teresa dies. It's a very emotional moment.
Ganshou-dono
2008-06-24, 16:58
when teresa died...that was really something...too sad and quite a suprise...
I like Miata being with Clarice :D they are so cute with each other
NobodyMan
2008-06-24, 17:05
My favorite scenes, in no particular order:
-the kiss scene between Clare and Raki. :love:
-the battle of pieta Rigald was so cool. :D
-the fight between Isley and Luciella (sp?) :cool:
-the re-introduction of Raki. :)
-and of course the whole Teresa fiasco. :heh:
williamaugustus
2008-06-28, 00:22
My favorite scenes, in no particular order:
-the kiss scene between Clare and Raki. :love:
-the battle of pieta Rigald was so cool. :D
-the fight between Isley and Luciella (sp?) :cool:
-the re-introduction of Raki. :)
-and of course the whole Teresa fiasco. :heh:
i agree with all of these
but to add:
i like the scene when clare tell raki she can smile like a prostitute and he freaks out.:p
KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-06-28, 01:13
I was writting my favourite scenes here, and I felt like I was writting the whole manga storyline, this is just too awesome to pick favourites =)
so I erased everything and go with my single favourite part, that is Teresa's fight and death
King Lycan
2008-06-28, 14:00
Every Scene which features Flora or Irene and they don't get killed X3
devils_alternative
2008-06-30, 12:29
This is my first post :)
This is my fav scene (manga)
http://photos-731.friendster.com/e1/photos/13/78/31058731/1_916340321l.jpg
Misavampire
2008-08-21, 19:48
Id Have To Say This Is My Top One.
~Anime~
When Clare Says She Knows How To Smile Like A Prostitute. XD I Giggle With Mad Laughter Everytime I Hear That.
~Manga~
When Teresa Is Sentances To Death By The Organisation, And When The (I dunno 5?) Warriors Strike Her. It was a 2 page thing okay. and on the next page you see that Teresa actually owned them instead xD
Captain Yoruichi
2008-08-22, 03:01
My favorite part in both the anime and the manga is this...
Irene: Live Clare! Your staying alive is the only proof that Teresa ever existed.
Spectacular_Insanity
2008-08-22, 16:34
Anime: Teresa vs. Numbers 2-5. My favorite part was when Teresa and Irene were doing Flash-Sword so much that the windows around them shattered. Now that's epic.
Manga: Re-introduction of Raki. Oh yeah, Raki's so cool (unlike in the anime). :D
Hmmm...there are so MANY of them that I loved. It practically easier to write those that I didn't like. But here's a try:
* every scene with Isley and Rigardo
* almost every scene with Irene, but especially those after Teresa's death
* and speaking of ...yup, almost every scene with Teresa
* the Pieta "arc" was one amazing scene after the other
... so many great moments!
The only exceptions would be those with Ophelia. Those were plain sadistic.
The only exceptions would be those with Ophelia. Those were plain sadistic.
I used to think the same thing.. but after watching Claymore over and over, I grew to like Ophelia alot. Especially after her redemption. :)
I used to think the same thing.. but after watching Claymore over and over, I grew to like Ophelia alot. Especially after her redemption. :)
I know, after her redemption I became almost sympathetic towards her. I'm really curious to see how will she appear in the manga. Haven't reached that point yet. From what I've seen so far there are small differences of personality between the manga and anime, in the portrayal of characters. Wonder if that will be Ophelia's case as well.
KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-09-22, 17:27
any possible redemption Ophelia could have had, became invalid to me since I read extra scene 2
any possible redemption Ophelia could have had, became invalid to me since I read extra scene 2
It's probably because you are a Miria fan. If you could forgive the physical harm Ophelia did to Clare, I see it much easier to forgive her for just not delivering the black card.
KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-09-23, 01:57
It's probably because you are a Miria fan.
It's because I'm a Miria fan
If you could forgive the physical harm Ophelia did to Clare, I see it much easier to forgive her for just not delivering the black card.
but there is a diference, when she fights Clare, she smells AB in her, she thought she was fighting an AB, but in the extra scene she is just trying to turn what she knows as normal claymores into ABs in order to kill them later, in the first one you can say she is berserk for ABs, but here she shows premeditation.
Also, even if she didn't physically harm Miria, she sufered worse sequels than Clare had
My favorite scene was when Teresa realized she was the one being comforted. Not only was it emotional, but upon seeing that I realized that I had to stay with this manga until the end.
Captain Yoruichi
2008-09-24, 01:19
^
That was a good one, too.
but there is a diference, when she fights Clare, she smells AB in her, she thought she was fighting an AB, but in the extra scene she is just trying to turn what she knows as normal claymores into ABs in order to kill them later, in the first one you can say she is berserk for ABs, but here she shows premeditation.
I suppose you have a point here. She was obsessed with killing AB to the point where she lost it but still I find the way she cried out when she realized she awakened and how she encouraged Clare to finish her off and carry on with her mission was enough repentance. Also how she resisted eating human guts was unique although now we have Prissy doing it.
chibamonster
2008-09-24, 12:18
Ophelia's character was consistent; she wanted to kill AB's, herself included. I cannot really see her as redeemed, but her striking humanity that she had as an AB really opened the theory that AB's are not at the mercy of their own appetites and desires. Ophelia really served as a counter point to Clare for me. Both of them lost their loved ones to Priscilla. Both of them were driven by an obsession for revenge and by hatred. Ophelia's hate, however, killed her own humanity in the process and turned her into a monster long before she awakened.
I used to think the same thing.. but after watching Claymore over and over, I grew to like Ophelia alot. Especially after her redemption. :)
Ok, I past that moment in the manga yesterday or the day before and yes, you were right. You do grow to like Ophelia at a second view of the story. She is a very interesting character. In a Tarantino kind of way. :)
She is a very interesting character. In a Tarantino kind of way. :)
She is positively twisted :) Which is why one of my favourite scenes is when she first Clare. I like the look of pure delirious insanity on her face.
Any scene which features the tagteam trio of Clare-Jeane-Galatea is also worth watching more than once. I liked how they completely owned Dauf.
VeNjuNsE
2008-10-05, 02:46
I felt the sick and twisted nature of Priscilla when she wiped Teresa, Irene and co.
The music that came in was perfect. Her deceit was so distasteful as it was given right as Teresa was pitying her and even trying to help her. It was simply gut-wrenching.
The best claymore fanboy scene? lol the bandit was hilarious when he was mocking Human Clare saying "teresa... teresaa... and such" and then when Teresa made the announcement immediately after that none of them would live. Very, very bombass.
and teresa fighting irene, claymore-priscilla, and the others.
irvinethearcher
2008-10-05, 13:44
-Clare with a club trying to prevent teresa from being raped by the bandit
-Clare jumping down the ravine trying to follow teresa
-Theresa cutting all the other claymores who shoul kill her with one strike
-Clare saving miria from rigardo
-the fab4 joining swords like the 4 musketeers
Captain Yoruichi
2008-10-14, 03:23
From the Teresa Extra Chapter of the manga.
Teresa: That's because I...was just that much stronger. And because you don't understand...you are number 2.
-Clare with a club trying to prevent teresa from being raped by the bandit
-Theresa cutting all the other claymores who shoul kill her with one strike
-Clare saving miria from rigardo
-the fab4 joining swords like the 4 musketeers
Exact replica of mine XD
From the Teresa Extra Chapter of the manga.
Teresa: That's because I...was just that much stronger. And because you don't understand...you are number 2.
Don't you go on stealing my sig!! :heh:
But yeah, that extra chapter was pure win!
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2009-09-19, 02:17
I really like in witches Maw how Clare finally manages to pull of the quick sword in a controled manner ,and she slashes around Jean without hitting her. Even Riful is shoked. It was a great moment for Clare.
I really like in witches Maw how Clare finally manages to pull of the quick sword in a controled manner ,and she slashes around Jean without hitting her. Even Riful is shoked. It was a great moment for Clare.
:confused:
There was a tread for Favorite scenes tread all this time :twitch:... wow, learn something new every day... :heh:
My top 5 (which do change based on my mood, sometimes even dropping out of the top 5 :heh:)
#5
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163542/39.jpg
#4
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000188312/26-27.jpg
#3
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163642/34-35.jpg
#2
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163602/15.jpg
#1
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000161612/30-31.jpg
MisterJB
2009-09-19, 13:40
I can't choose a top#5, so I'll go with a top #11
http://i33.tinypic.com/avfsd0.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/4rcjg9.png
http://i34.tinypic.com/11ad6x5.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/rkqaev.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/29g24gj.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/2h5l194.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/izyhs4.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/i435au.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/v4s20i.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/de0101.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2qas3zl.png
Tsuyoshi
2009-09-20, 11:54
http://i34.tinypic.com/2h5l194.jpg
This.
http://i35.tinypic.com/izyhs4.jpg
And This.
straferd
2009-09-20, 13:06
#2
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163602/15.jpg
#1
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000161612/30-31.jpg
Great choices on #1 and #2
#1 from @Ryus and also the same scene by @JB, that is, #5. And also #6 from @JB.:)
TheNumberThree
2009-09-21, 08:08
there's so many to choose from, i'll just go with a few from the anime...
-when jean and clare are talking in the woods and rubel and rafaela appear out of nowhere
-when dauf goes to smash galatea and his hands form a circle around her
-when helen destroys rigaldos arm
-when noel is confronting priscilla and she says "get up you little b*tch" :heh:
My favourite scene in claymore is "..That little girl with half of my size taught me that...tears can flow even from silver eyes..."
Also the one where appears that flash right before Clare cuts Rigardos arm
Also i like pages 15 and 16 of Charlotte Saga :p
HegemonKhan
2009-09-26, 07:48
some of the ones i can think of right now off the top of my head:
1. galatea whining about clare cutting her hair when galatea was held hostage by agatha, and clare's like, oh i'm sorry, i didn't care about your hair because i never cared about my own hair, but if you don't want me to cut it i won't. than agatha is like, WTF, i'm about to kill galatea, and you're talking about her HAIR!!!! WTF!!! than clare is like, "i said no one else is going to die now that i'm here". clare slices agatha into pieces killing her. AWESOME FUNNY SCENE!
2. deneve kicking undine back out of the awakened one's body controlling yoki range, during the battle in pieta.
3. deneve kneeing audrey in the stomach, who just had waken up in helen's arm as she carries her away from riful.
4. clare punching (gently, kind of.. lol) raki in the face, after he displayed being worried and concerned about clare (this was either when they were in the holy city or hunting the male awakened one with miria, helen, and deneve). she needs to learn how show affection when a guy cares about her. punching them in the face is not how you do that!!!!
5. teresa, laughing, and than ripping open her top, flashing the bandits.... i haven't in a long time...feel free to take me....
6. one day, going back through the manga and anime, trying to count all the times that clare has face-planted (fallen or slammed on her face into the ground) into the ground, lol !!!!
7. teresa kicking clare 3 times in the town
8. teresa throwing unconscious-dehydrated clare into the pond to wake her up
9. teresa, after catching clare from falling down the cliff, yanks her up and slams her into the ground, lol
10. clare with a serious "attitude" commanding to riful, "TELL ME THE NAME OF THE MAN IN THE NORTH. I AM GOING TO KILL HIS WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
(maybe this is only in the anime, i can't remember if it is also in the manga or not)
11. after ophelia slices up raki, raki replies, "shut up. this is just a flesh wound. your attacks don't even make me itch". ...monty python anyone...
12. HELEN, she's a riot!
some of the best i can think of are
12A. helen teasing clare about raki
12B. helen meeting jean and clare in pieta and having learned that jean is a single digit..
helen to jean: "you're a single digit and you're serving clare?? you know what rank clare is? she's DEAD LAST, DEAD LAST!!!"
13. noel is REALLY DUMB. count how many times she says, "eh" (if i remember right). noel is so dumb, it's funny.
14. etc..
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my most favorite "scene" :
one day going through the manga and anime, actually COUNTING how many times clare's face falls or is slammed on/into the ground !!!!!
maybe i'm weird, but i find this to be a really humanizing element for clare. makes her seem more like a normal human, than a "superman" type character. i mean how many all powerful "superman" and "superpower" characters that you know have their face splat into the ground just once... now add up how many times clare's face splats into the ground...... lol ... clare definately has one tough face.....
Mine are:
#1
http://i38.tinypic.com/2pr8x0z.jpg
#2
http://i33.tinypic.com/11wg6dg.jpg
#3
http://i35.tinypic.com/a4x7vt.jpg
#4
http://i34.tinypic.com/kb24wl.jpg
#5
http://i34.tinypic.com/qq1j08.jpg
#6
http://i34.tinypic.com/112d6hy.jpg
#7
http://i35.tinypic.com/furzwj.jpg
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HegemonKhan
2009-09-27, 23:21
forgot these two...
1. Cid (the knife/dagger throwing holy city rabona guy who's friends and always with galk the big more knight like guy with the broadsword) giving clare a kiss, lol, and raki's reaction and them getting into a fight over clare...and clare just nonchalantly watches for a bit, and than calls raki to come since she's leaving the city now...
.... it's a good thing clare didn't give Cid her "prostitute" naughty wicked smile/smirk ..... angelina jolie... check out this WICKED SMIRK, BOOYAH !!!! who's got all the guys of the world now, huh huh ?? (ach, this sounds more like helen than clare, oh well...)
2. helen during the tavern scene drinking it up and getting drunk (well, can't really tell, she didn't really change much from her normal self, hehe). in holy city of rabona after they killed agatha....
wait beer and a tavern in a holy city... rofl....
but anyways about it...
i was SO NOT surprised when i first saw it. i always knew helen was a great beer drinking buddy to have with you.
Awakened
2009-09-27, 23:33
You guys should just quote the entire manga, lol.
naruto8001360
2009-09-28, 09:47
in ep 26 when teresa told clare stay among human and being human
in ep 26 when teresa told clare stay among human and being human
:confused: But the anime ended with episode 22... :p
In all seriousness, do you mean the scene where Clare recalls the words Teresa told Clare ages ago? Which is from the scene when Teresa left Clare in the town that bandits later attacked. Since Teresa's ghost didn't speak to Clare but Clare recalled what she told her ages ago.
IMHO that scene is good but the manga's equivalent of that scene (taking place at the same time but totally different in content) is much better and one of my favorite parts of the manga.
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naruto8001360
2009-09-28, 17:04
:confused: But the anime ended with episode 22... :p
In all seriousness, do you mean the scene where Clare recalls the words Teresa told Clare ages ago? Which is from the scene when Teresa left Clare in the town that bandits later attacked. Since Teresa's ghost didn't speak to Clare but Clare recalled what she told her ages ago.
IMHO that scene is good but the manga's equivalent of that scene (taking place at the same time but totally different in content) is much better and one of my favorite parts of the manga.
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163612/26.jpg
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163612/27.jpg
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163612/28.jpg
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http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163612/30-31.jpg
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No i mean when Jean died in pieta after the she stop clare from awakening and she lives with raki but look one last time at jean's grave and remembered teresa
i loved that scene especially the music
No i mean when Jean died in pieta after the she stop clare from awakening and she lives with raki but look one last time at jean's grave and remembered teresa
i loved that scene especially the music
:heh: That's what I meant.
naruto8001360
2009-09-29, 05:17
:heh: sorry i thought u meant sth else
There must be ones that I liked more but this one "cool moment" I cannot get out of my head right now - Riful's first intervention in order to save her husband (it's late and I can't remember that dumbass' name either) from Clare and Jean when her arm awakened insinuating the superior fully awakened form she must have.
There must be ones that I liked more but this one "cool moment" I cannot get out of my head right now - Riful's first intervention in order to save her husband (it's late and I can't remember that dumbass' name either) from Clare and Jean when her arm awakened insinuating the superior fully awakened form she must have.
Do you mean this moment?
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/Riful34.png
Oh, I love the way you worded that "when her arm awakened insinuating the... ...awakened form she must have." ;)
Do you mean this moment?
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv162/LordRyus/Riful34.png
Oh, I love the way you worded that "when her arm awakened insinuating the... ...awakened form she must have." ;)
That's the one. :)
Rather than going on about how her "power level is over 9000", claymores could confirm their Youki readings with their own eyes. That arm-body contrast is too cool.
there are many good scenes i like, but this one early in the story is my favourite:
when Terassa cried and hugged the little long-haired Clare
reason is i think i feel my eyes wet at that moment
there are many good scenes i like, but this one early in the story is my favourite:
when Terassa cried and hugged the little long-haired Clare
reason is i think i feel my eyes wet at that moment
That's everybody's favorite :D
there are many good scenes i like, but this one early in the story is my favourite:
when Terassa cried and hugged the little long-haired Clare
reason is i think i feel my eyes wet at that moment
Well, I just cried thinking about it.:)
The scene that let me know right away that I would like Claymore was when Raki chased Clare in episode 1 and she pulled her sword out at him almost beheading him. It was just an intense scene.
The scene in episode 5 where Teresa said she would entertain the bandits until each of them had their fill was entertaining.
Wow, what's up with everyone mentioning the scene where Teresa realised Clare was trying to comfort her, but noone says anything about the scene where Raki saved Clare?
Seriously guys, this male child hate is really disturbing. Children are children. Please solve your issues.
HegemonKhan
2009-11-26, 13:33
to me, raki looks more like a teenager, not a child. Teenagers are young adults and (male ones) "shouldn't" be crying like a baby-child anymore...
fear is fine.... heck, i'd be pisin down my leg if claymore manga/anime was real....
but not crying.....
He is clearly a child.
Many male fans probably cried while watching a cartoon... And Raki isn't allowed to cry when people he cares about die or are placed in extreme danger?
People don't have a problem because he has a weak mind. He actually has a much stronger mind than most modern real grown up men (who like you say would shit their pants). People have a problem because there is some social rule against males showing affection. IMO not only is that a pretty damn lame prehistoric social rule to begin with which should be shrugged off entirely by healthy people, Raki is a child and in any case it shouldn't even apply to him in the first place.
HegemonKhan
2009-11-26, 22:10
yes, "macho" image.
Crying (especially) and emotions in general is "seen" as weakness in males. the social image of males is that they aren't to be emotional.
Wow, what's up with everyone mentioning the scene where Teresa realised Clare was trying to comfort her, but noone says anything about the scene where Raki saved Clare?
Seriously guys, this male child hate is really disturbing. Children are children. Please solve your issues.
:rolleyes:
They don't compare, at all. Plus it has nothing to do with "our issues." If you kidding, it's a bad and unclear joke. If your serious then I got to say your failing to recognize the significance of what Teresa realizing Clare was comforting her lead to and how Raki saving Clare didn't lead to anything that wasn't already there.
Raki risking his life to save Clare when he had no chance to really make a difference was nice but it's been done a thousand times, I've lost count how many times Clare has done just that to save others and she's done it to save total strangers. True, it speaks volumes of Raki but it's hardly the most moving moment of the series or Raki in the series, in fact Raki telling Isley he needed power to make another person not worry about him and if possible save them was a far better moment. Since it showed Raki's commitment to saving Clare knowing how far out classed he was by the "monsters" of the world, especially after having Ophelia show him just how weak he really was.
Raki charging in to save Clare not making anyone's "favorite scene", and the Teresa and Clare hug making many people's lists, has nothing to do with our hate of Raki or anything like that... it has to do with the dynamics of how the scene changed Teresa and Clare for the better (though for Clare it was a set up for a greater tragedy). When Clare and Raki where separated before anything could develop with them and other event's, like Ophelia playing with the two of them, diluted the moment. Sure they kissed... but that was more Clare trying to get Raki to listen and do as she told him then a direct effect of Raki risking his live to save her. In short it was a great moment but it failed to lead to anything besides +50 chapters of us waiting for them to reunite.
The Teresa's realization of Clare's motivation was far more then a simple realization. It totally changed both characters and in fact was the close to, if not the, defining moment in both of there lives. Teresa went from being a hate full women, scornful of her being betrayed by loved ones and sold into a horrible existence devoid of any real human connection. To being a loving mother figure to an injured and beyond abused child desperate for someone to understand her. For Teresa it was this moment that caused her to drop her emotional guard and let Clare in. The best part being Teresa wasn't just being kind to some kid, she needed the bond as much as Clare did, it saved both of them.
Orsay pretty much said that he thought Teresa would kill a human one day but he didn't say he thought that she would because of her connecting with Clare. He believed she was on a self destructive path and would become a murderer if the situation didn't change some how. It could even be argued that Orsay didn't even realize Teresa's motivation for killing all the bandits until Teresa told him that from now on she was going to live for the child.
Now as for that moment being the defining moment in Clare's life is a bit harder to argue since she's had so much tragedy in her life. Logically though, gaining someone in ones life is just as important as them dying and leaving the person to move on or stay trapped in the past. Though in situations like Clare's it's a balancing act of being trapped by the past and moving on (which drives home Teresa's importance to Clare and yet her need for another connection). Clare truly gained Teresa on that night and lost her soon after. Which probably made those blissful moments all the more important to her.
I really don't see the distinction you see. At all.
I think you are right on target with your description of what happened in Teresa and Clare scene.
My point was that in Raki and Clare scene the exact same thing happened.
At the beginning of the series, Clare is shown JUST like Teresa: cold and apathetic, not capable of developing a bond with another human being, not having anyone who cares about her, hardly having anything to live for. She does show some interest and a little bit of care towards Raki, but until that scene it really is not much.
Raki charging in to save Clare
He isn't charging in to save Clare. He is charging in to die with Clare. And because of that Clare as a person is completely turned, from an emotionless killer with nothing to live for, to someone to whom a connection with another person now means everything and gives her enough strength to do something that was supposed to be impossible. The power of the scene is not in Clare's life being saved (though it certainly adds to it). It's in Clare becoming a human.
Teresa and Clare is just a copy of Clare and Raki. Again, a cold emotionless shell with nothing to live for, who suddenly is overcome with human warmth because someone was willing to go through hell for her. In fact, when I first watched the series, this scene didn't affect me much because it felt like the exact same thing over again.
HegemonKhan
2009-11-27, 13:18
If you're talking about the cathedral scene, where Clare is asking Galk to behead her and Raki rushes in and hugs her wanting to "Romeo and Juliet" die together, and because Clare loved Raki so much, she would not let anything kill Raki, not even her awakening...
That is how you display a Romeo and Juliet moment that isn't lame like shakespeare did, hehe.
I actually loved this (Raki and Clare in the cathedral) scene a lot too. It has as much going on as the Clare and Teresa scene of....
Teresa: "This little girl, half my size, taught me that, tears can flow from silver eyes as well"
it just isn't as openly noticible of how major a scene it is and all that is going on in it.
........
or are you talking about when Raki fights with Ophelia?
i'm not sure what scene you're talking about... lol
Yea cathedral scene.
because Clare loved Raki so much, she would not let anything kill Raki, not even her awakening...
I would actually not interpret it that way. After all, Clare could just tell Galk to tear Raki away from her and then behead her. Or she could use her willpower to push Raki away herself and kill herself, which should after all be much easier than overcoming the awakening altogether. But it is only now she realises how much Raki loves her and suddenly her life is filled with meaning which makes her even want to overcome the awakening.
BTW later when it was shown that Miria, Deneve and Helen overcame their awakening pretty mundanely, I felt this scene was strongly devaluated. But there's a big enough gap betweeb these two scenes so they don't interfere too much ^^
HegemonKhan
2009-11-27, 13:26
ah good i did get the scene right
and besides....
This is what-when Clare was made-became a Half Awaken !!!!!! (when she got her much greater power, lol)
and all because of Raki and their love for each other !!!
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another thing that made the cathedral scene so great.....
how many stories do you know of where the main protagonist hero asks someone (Galk) to and is about to be decapitated ? .... LOL
It was a total surprise and shock, to be thinking WTF, the main character is going to be killed just a "few" chapters into the manga (or the 4th episode of the anime) !!!!
in shakespeare's work, the Romeo and Juliet death scene is at the END of the story, not the beginning, like in Claymore manga/anime, lol.
that was so way cool !!!
I really don't see the distinction you see. At all.
I think you are right on target with your description of what happened in Teresa and Clare scene.
My point was that in Raki and Clare scene the exact same thing happened.
Sorry but Clare opened up to Raki long before that scene. Depending on your point of view it either happened at the end of chapter 1 when Raki confessed how he felt and opened up to Clare. Giving her the necessary motivation to accept Raki as more then just another random person and someone she could care about. The other scene being chapter 11 when Raki opens up to Clare again and tells her that he'd rather die with her then be with out her, which is clearly the same thing taken to the next level. Not only did it save her from a fate she viewed as worse then death but it let her drop her emotion guard with Raki.
True, Raki doing this again helped Clare open up to Raki even more but it's part of a long series of events that saved both Clare and Raki, when that Teresa/Clare moment is a singular event that changed both of there lives.
I guess my main point being, IMHO, your making the 4th event in a series into the end all of the chain of events. One being Raki following Clare and seeing past her yoma side, Two being Raki confessing his feeling to Clare, Three being Raki begging to die with Clare when she was about to awaken. Sure there where other little things like Raki taking on Cid when he insulted Clare but I view those as more of reminders of Raki's desire to be with Clare forever than events that truly caused Clare to let Raki in. The next event being there parting kiss and the final two being Clare finding the girl who told Clare about the statue of the twin goddesses and lastly her seeing Raki's carving of it on the wall.
If you change the list from being events that caused Clare to open up to Raki to events that showed Raki's commitment to Clare. I personally view Raki asking for training from Isley as another key event and Raki being undaunted by Renee logical argument that Clare must be dead as another.
At the beginning of the series, Clare is shown JUST like Teresa: cold and apathetic, not capable of developing a bond with another human being, not having anyone who cares about her, hardly having anything to live for. She does show some interest and a little bit of care towards Raki, but until that scene it really is not much.
:rolleyes: Clare wasn't just like Teresa. There were some major differences. First off Clare's attitude towards the common folk wasn't that of pure distain like Teresa but more of a guard against them hurting her. It's a big difference.
Teresa was always purposely scaring the villagers both with her actions and words. Clare on the other hand never verbally tried to scare anyone let alone throw swords at them, fling yoma blood at them, or hitting children who followed her. Teresa also seemed to enjoy extorting money from the villagers for killing the final yoma, when Clare would kill all the yoma and then let the org handle the price negotiations. Clare also would risk her life twice to save villagers before her backup arrived knowing she didn't exactly have the power Teresa did... Would Teresa have done the same? (Rhetorical question)
I agree Teresa was cold and apathetic (assuming you mean apathetic as in... not interested or concerned; indifferent or unresponsive and not it's other definition... having or showing little or no emotion) when Clare is aloof, on guard, and unemotional... or at least emotionally stunted.
He isn't charging in to save Clare. He is charging in to die with Clare. And because of that Clare as a person is completely turned, from an emotionless killer with nothing to live for, to someone to whom a connection with another person now means everything and gives her enough strength to do something that was supposed to be impossible. The power of the scene is not in Clare's life being saved (though it certainly adds to it). It's in Clare becoming a human.
I do view Raki as having the underlying motivation of dying with Clare as a cause from him to jump into the fray but I don't see it as his end all cause for taking on Ophelia. Raki previously charged a yoma, he is offensive in nature but he also realizes his limitations. IMHO, Raki jumping into the fight was more to do with him not being able to stand idly by, then a consciously realizing both of them where doomed. His comment about Ophelia failing to harm him indicated that he was fighting to give Clare a chance to recover then die with her. Maybe he believed he would die to give her that chance but that is unstated and is speculation at best.
Teresa and Clare is just a copy of Clare and Raki. Again, a cold emotionless shell with nothing to live for, who suddenly is overcome with human warmth because someone was willing to go through hell for her. In fact, when I first watched the series, this scene didn't affect me much because it felt like the exact same thing over again.
Teresa wasn't emotionless, she was scornful and filled with hate and disgust. Clare isn't emotionless either she's just emotionally stunted (buried her emotions deep inside), Clare has had her emotions and reactions break through the surface before and will again. Teresa needed saving from herself when Clare needed a reminder of a human connection to live for. Clare still did have her revenge drive, so she did have a logical reason of something to live for. However without a human connection her revenge drive was being diluted by the pains of being alone. To me Raki reinvigorated her revenge drive and reminded her of why life was worth living. That is very different from Teresa needing to be saved from her own course of actions.
Both needed saving and both received there salvation from an unexpected source... a helpless child. For Clare dealing with a child served a double purpose, salvation and it also forced her to confront her past. However why they needed saving and how each child saved them aren't comparable on a psychological level but there minor similarities. Which actually help and hinder Clare, reminders of the past force her to confront them but she hasn't exactly taken the head on approach. Also the actions of the children themselves aren't comparable. Clare mentioned that what she hated the most was that she was too scare to do anything for Teresa, yet Raki has risked life and limb twice for Clare... once to die with her and once to save her (maybe die with her as you said, though I disagree on that point).
Your right that the scene is very important... I just wish it had shown Clare's thoughts of seeing a young boy risking life and limb to save her. Especially since he just did the one thing for her that she wished she had done for Teresa. If that had been included, rather then just as surprise in Clare's eyes, I have no doubt that scene would have made my favorite list. However I just feel that the scene failed to follow through with it's potential. All the logic for the scenes importance is there but it failed to have the truly deep emotional connection that other scenes had.
another thing that mde the cathedral scene so great.....
how many stories do you know of where the main protagonist hero asks someone (Galk) to and is about to be decapitated ? .... LOL
It was a total surprise and shock, to be thinking WTF, the main character is going to be killed just a "few" chapters into the manga (or the 4th episode of the anime) !!!!
Yes, I feel Claymore is one of the very few stories where the main charachter(s) constantly escape huge danger, but yet you feel the danger is real every time, and it's the charachters' insurmountable persistence despite overwhelming odds that gives them the victory, not mere author's whim.
EDIT: Umm, Ryus, it seems you've been thinking I was talking about Ophelia scene all this time? LOL, sorry I should have been more clear >< I assumed everyone considered the cathedral scene as the most important between Raki and Clare, didn't realise it's possible to take it in another way...
Ophelia scene was just a cool scene, where Raki showed he's not nearly as big of a pussy as people might have thought. Like you, I didn't feel it was very emotional or pivotal in the development of charachters.
But did you feel the cathedral scene was even less important then? I mean if you excluded the possibility that I was talking about that scene, you must have thought even less of it than the Ophelia scene?
And BTW Ophelia scene actually DOES show up on people's favourite scene lists hehe.
Teresa wasn't emotionless, she was scornful and filled with hate and disgust.
I mean she had no meaning in her life or nothing to live for. If she was on the way of becoming a murderer, then it would have only been a consequence of that.
Clare didn't have anything live for either. Except revenge, but I suspect you'll agree that is a very cold and depressing purpose, not comparable to having a strong bond with another person.
Both charachters in their respective scenes had the love of a child completely turn them around and fill their empty lives with purpose. In Clare's case, this was further escalated by it giving her strength to do something that was considered impossible and come back from awakening. And her scene was first in the story as well. Yet people love Teresa+Clare scene but don't seem to even mention Clare+Raki scene (in the cathedral, that is ><), which I find disturbing, as it seems to stem from some lame medieval social rules that males shouldn't show affection.
However why they needed saving and how each child saved them aren't comparable on a psychological level but there minor similarities.
I felt the reasons were effectively the same on a psychological level and there were minor differences :)
Also the actions of the children themselves aren't comparable. Clare mentioned that what she hated the most was that she was too scare to do anything for Teresa , yet Raki has risked life and limb twice for Clare...
Clare followed Teresa until she was so weak that she was about to collapse, and walked off a cliff. Because she wanted to comfort her. I think that counts as doing quite a bit. Besides, she also attacked a bandit for Teresa, against whom she was completely powerless... And faced the consequences in form of severe beating... Yet even during that she was worried about Teresa, not herself.
Seriously I don't understand how you make such a big difference between Teresa+Clare and Clare+Raki! They're VERY similar!
Yup, the cathedral scene is one of my favourite too.
Another good one to me, or at least an emotionnal one, is the flashback of the aftermath of the battle of Pieta where we see Miria crying. It was the first time time we saw Miria display self-doubt and vulnerability, when she had been everyone's pillar of strength till that point.
HegemonKhan
2009-11-27, 13:45
ryus,
you forgot one other big moment in the Clare and Raki relationship... which is one of my favorites...
right before Clare leaves to go with Miria, Deneve, and Helen to (unknowingly end up) fighting the male awakened being:
Raki (now knowing about ranks and Clare being rank 47 from helen) tells Clare to this effect (it actually has to do with only taking enough money to last a week) that SHE WILL COME BACK TO HIM ALIVE, because he is worried about her.
Clare felt all warm and melty inside, that Raki would care so much for her, but Clare has to re-learn how humans show thanks.....
Clare (gently) punches Raki in the forehead !!!!
This is one of my favorite scenes !!! Better then all the others (lol), when Clare punches Raki in the head !!!!
actually this whole part-section of the manga/anime is great...
i just love helen teasing Clare and Raki about being "more intimate" with each other, or rather, Raki being Clare's "toy" (i'd love being Clare's "toy" !!!!, lol), and Clare getting uber pised at helen and "attacking her" (well drawing her sword out) !!!!
There are two other moments I enjoy greatly :
Helen attempting to pull rank over Jean, only to learn she's a single digit. Cue to the first WTF face we ever saw on a Claymore. :heh::heh:
Another one is Renee's introduction chapter and her interactions with Raki. First she starts as the typical aloof Claymore, only to be thrown off several times by a mere human, culminating with another WTF face. This is another great moment for Raki, in a different way, as he is the only human to have ever caused so many different reactions from a Claymore : Renee show more emotions on this single chapter than most others do in ten :heh::heh:
Clare felt all warm and melty inside, that Raki would care so much for her, but Clare has to re-learn how humans show thanks.....
Clare (gently) punches Raki in the forehead !!!!
Hehe, I felt it was very appropriate. Sort of, "look, it's already established we care about each other, now stop repeating all the time how much you care about me and man up a bit because our life won't be easy!"
On a similar note, I enjoyed the scene in the manga where Clare smiled when Raki made that silly joke about taking care of food being his responsibility since he's the cook. It was a very small gesture but felt very rewarding. Very nice and subtle. I wonder why that didn't make it into the anime.
i'd love being Clare's "toy" !!!!, lol
Say that after you've seen the scar :P
Actually the whole gross belly thing doesn't add up very well. Some Claymores can regrow limbs with perfect skin. Everyone can regenerate some pretty bad wounds going right through the stomach. So it's weird that they're unable to fix a merely superficial feature, say by growing regular skin over it. Unless they just don't bother.
IMO, I'm not sure whatever the Claymores have is that spread out on their torso. We've had a fair amount of fanservice from Deneve, but we never saw anything through the torn parts of her uniform (see chapter 61). Also, we know it does not bulge out considering they wear skin tight clothes.
Anyway, shouldn't this be moved to the biology thread?
I mean if they can regrow limbs, they should at least be able to grow nice-looking skin over the ugly bits without actually changing them...
Yes, I feel Claymore is one of the very few stories where the main charachter(s) constantly escape huge danger, but yet you feel the danger is real every time, and it's the charachters' insurmountable persistence despite overwhelming odds that gives them the victory, not mere author's whim.
EDIT: Umm, Ryus, it seems you've been thinking I was talking about Ophelia scene all this time? LOL, sorry I should have been more clear >< I assumed everyone considered the cathedral scene as the most important between Raki and Clare, didn't realise it's possible to take it in another way...
:heh: Oooh! :heh:
Now your making more since to me. I couldn't figure out why you where arguing that Raki taking on Clare was more important than the Cathedral scene. I believe you said something along the lines of Raki risking his life to save Clare, so I thought you meant him taking on Ophelia since in the Cathedral he chose to die with her. You later said I misunderstood and said he wanted to die with her but I didn't want to pry too deep into your reasoning for Raki wanting to die with Clare in the Ophelia fight, since a favorite scene thread is bound to have some strong opinions and you seemed kinda vocal about are lack of picking the Cathedral scene. All I wanted to do was stress why I thought the Teresa/Clare bonding was so important and deserving of a top spot if not the top spot.
Well... in my top 5 list here I stated my top 5 change all the time, based on my mood. I feel that though the whole Cathedral Clare/Raki moment was great it was the saving grace of the slowest paced chapter in the manga. There's great character development in the chapter but I also felt that yoma were getting old and seemed kinda weak by this point, plus lets not mention the whole "who's the yoma" now that Clare can't sense yoki plot was lame. The moment Raki mentioned the mummies I knew who the yoma was and spent the next 30+ minutes waiting for Clare to figure it out (I watched the anime first, then read the manga). At that point I was worried about if I would keep watching after this arc, however the ending of the arc was great... just like you are arguing ;).
As much as I liked Raki for saving Clare, I really wanted to know more about Clare. She was so interesting to me and I wanted to discover as much as I could about her. I got kinda angry that after that the next arc had a new character... I didn't care about this new Claymore... Like this "Teresa" could ever be as interesting as Clare (:heh:, I still laugh at myself when looking back at it). Though I quickly realized my mistake :rolleyes:.
I almost flipped out when "another" child was saved by a Claymore. For just a moment I wondered if the whole anime was about saving kids from yoma :eyespin:. Though Teresa's reaction to the child was priceless. I couldn't help but think she was the anti-Clare and they would be destined to fight since there swords were crossed in the intro. (:heh: I get a huge kick out of thinking back on myself for that one :p). Well, now to my point, at the end of the episode Teresa "named" Clare and that's when everything with Raki and Clare fell into place. So after that realization I just knew they where destined to bond and have some tragedy befall them for Clare to end up as she was in the beginning of the story. So when this cold women dropped her emotional shield and let this helpless child see the real her that needed love too I couldn't help but shed tears too. That followed Teresa attempting to do the right thing for Clare, by giving her up, but by circumstance to be forced into the choice of being hunted by her own to save Clare again or go back to her old ways and let Clare die. Well, it really moved me.
So, to me, when you compare the two scenes one was the saving grace of a weak arc that saved the life of the main character and let her better understand how the child traveling with her truly felt about her (which was hinted at prior to this) and the other was the main event that saved two people emotionally but the eventual death of one of them and the other becoming a monster herself and reverting back to her emotionally stunted ways. Well... it's just not a real challenge to me. One is the what caused Clare to be the way she is and the other being hints and reminders of what she truly desires. Though the later has not quite developed that way... at least yet.
In fact it's lead to far more plot lines about Clare being partially awakened then Clare getting the opportunity to bond with Raki and dropping her emotional guard thus becoming "human" again.
Ophelia scene was just a cool scene, where Raki showed he's not nearly as big of a pussy as people might have thought. Like you, I didn't feel it was very emotional or pivotal in the development of charachters.
But did you feel the cathedral scene was even less important then? I mean if you excluded the possibility that I was talking about that scene, you must have thought even less of it than the Ophelia scene?
And BTW Ophelia scene actually DOES show up on people's favourite scene lists hehe.
:heh: Yeah, Raki fighting Ophelia was nice but not a pivotal moment. The Cathedral scene was far more important then Raki risking his life again for Clare, it did show that he would even fight for her but that's about it. The rest had been done before.
:confused: I recall there parting kiss being on lists and some of Ophelia's dialog too but not the moment of Raki taking on Ophelia. Need to double check that.
I mean she had no meaning in her life or nothing to live for. If she was on the way of becoming a murderer, then it would have only been a consequence of that.
Clare didn't have anything live for either. Except revenge, but I suspect you'll agree that is a very cold and depressing purpose, not comparable to having a strong bond with another person.
Both charachters in their respective scenes had the love of a child completely turn them around and fill their empty lives with purpose. In Clare's case, this was further escalated by it giving her strength to do something that was considered impossible and come back from awakening. And her scene was first in the story as well. Yet people love Teresa+Clare scene but don't seem to even mention Clare+Raki scene (in the cathedral, that is ><), which I find disturbing, as it seems to stem from some lame medieval social rules that males shouldn't show affection.
I felt the reasons were effectively the same on a psychological level and there were minor differences :)
Sorry I just see those differences as being far more vast then you seem to. Well have to agree to disagree here. Though I will state that I see myself as more analyzing the characters underlying causes for there "coldness" and "loneliness" and why each character was saved by a child. When I seem to be interrupting you as just analyzing there emotions and base desires. For a psychological analysis I view myself as being correct, no offense, but you do need to understand the route of the emotional state for a diagnosable psychological analysis and not just the emotional state. Sorry if I misunderstood you there... I don't mean for this to come off as insulting.
Clare followed Teresa until she was so weak that she was about to collapse, and walked off a cliff. Because she wanted to comfort her. I think that counts as doing quite a bit. Besides, she also attacked a bandit for Teresa, against whom she was completely powerless... And faced the consequences in form of severe beating... Yet even during that she was worried about Teresa, not herself.
:heh: First off I said only what Clare told us, she was ashamed of her self for being over come with fear. That is Clare's stated opinion about how she felt. Second I was corrected on this part by the readers of the RAW, now I guess it's my turn to point it out. Clare was raped by her brother. I've been told the VIZ version (aka the official English version, has a slightly modified pic and dialog from the RAW. Plus lets just not even think about all that the yoma did to her when she was there prisoner.) Look at the position of Clare's brother in relation to Clare's legs, then her brothers nakedness, plus how she appears pinned down by him, finally she asks her brother "Why". She knew yoma ate people, so the "why" more likely deals with why he raped her instead of eating her... makes me wonder if there's something unique about Clare (like there seems to be with Raki) or whether her brother just became a freak after being taken over by the yoma... kinda like Duff. Though her brother crying indicates it wasn't that he was like Duff. Plus what are the odds that two groups of yoma decided to torture and rape Clare rather then just feeding on her. The more I think of it the more sense it's starting to make... um, I'll have to ponder this idea more. ;).
http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000163532/36.jpg
So... Clare likely was rushing to save Teresa since of her experience of being raped herself. It's simple really Clare's was able to risk her life against a human and because of her own experience with being raped for the one person she felt any connection to. Yet she coward behind Teresa upon seeing Priscilla's face at ~ 70% power and seemed to be too scared to really move at all for the whole fight. Her shame is likely based off of a "What if I had done something differently" thought but there is some logic behind it and a lot of emotion.
Of course I can't read Japanese so I am taking the word of another on this matter. :heh:
Seriously I don't understand how you make such a big difference between Teresa+Clare and Clare+Raki! They're VERY similar!
The devil is in the details. :p
No offense but I see tons of different details between the two groups. Each is unique and important but for different reasons. So each should be treated that way too, each story deserves it.
MisterJB
2009-11-28, 08:34
I couldn't help but think she was the anti-Clare and they would be destined to fight since there swords were crossed in the intro.
Lol, I remember thinking that Teresa was the final villain.
Sorry I just see those differences as being far more vast then you seem to. Well have to agree to disagree here.
Fair enough, NP ^^
The devil is in the details.
Oh, I don't mind the details being different, but I mean the core issue here. In my mind,
Teresa (as first depicted) = eroded person with nothing valuable in her life --> finds a child who is drawn to her --> rejects at first but gets a little nice with her later --> suddenly in one scene realises just how much she means to her and suddenly her life is filled with meaning and warmth
Clare (as first depicted) = eroded person with nothing valuable in her life --> finds a child who is drawn to her --> rejects at first but gets a little nice with him later --> suddenly in one scene realises just how much she means to him and suddenly her life is filled with meaning and warmth (and additionally her life is saved as a result as well)
The details are just details. And frankly, even the details are similar in many aspects.
Though I will state that I see myself as more analyzing the characters underlying causes for there "coldness" and "loneliness" and why each character was saved by a child. When I seem to be interrupting you as just analyzing there emotions and base desires. For a psychological analysis I view myself as being correct, no offense, but you do need to understand the route of the emotional state for a diagnosable psychological analysis and not just the emotional state. Sorry if I misunderstood you there... I don't mean for this to come off as insulting.
Well I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly what you are trying to say but to me the fact that someone is cold and lonely is clearly primary over the details of how she became cold and lonely. Wether someone is cold and lonely because she lost someone dear to her, or because she never had anyone dear to her, or because she was raped as a child, or because she is crippled, or because her brain chemistry is messed up... It doesn't really matter much, the most important thing is she's cold and lonely and how could she get better.
Besides, how can you claim that Teresa and Clare became cold and lonely for radically different reasons? It is never explained what happened to Teresa, but the most natural assumption to me would be that she also lost her loved ones, like pretty much everyone in the entire series.
I couldn't figure out why you where arguing that Raki taking on Clare was more important than the Cathedral scene. I believe you said something along the lines of Raki risking his life to save Clare, so I thought you meant him taking on Ophelia since in the Cathedral he chose to die with her.
Well my original post that you were responding to was this:
Wow, what's up with everyone mentioning the scene where Teresa realised Clare was trying to comfort her, but noone says anything about the scene where Raki saved Clare?
Seriously guys, this male child hate is really disturbing. Children are children. Please solve your issues.
Shiek927
2009-11-28, 11:54
Lol, I remember thinking that Teresa was the final villain.
Roflmao, I wish I could give you rep for that one :heh:
HegemonKhan
2009-11-28, 13:49
that would actually be way cool.....
poor Clare has to face off against her beloved Teresa.....
soooo cool..... love the idea.....
(too bad Clare took Teresa's head inside her...err this sounds gross...but you know i don't mean it like that, lol)
if Clare hadn't taken Teresa's head inside her, then the Organization could maybe have somehow brought Teresa back to life as their "final boss" for Clare to fight against, instead of possibly Raki... Teresa would be sooo much cooler then Raki as a "final boss".
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just read about the other stuff in previous posts:
Clare:
yomas don't eat her ("brother"-yoma possibly rapes her and the next yoma uses her as its "toy" at least physically abusing her and reasonably probably sexually too, considering her previous yoma encounter of being possibly raped)
*we don't know if the rape already occurred or was about to, which then the claymore (i really wanna know which claymore it was that saved clare) appeared and killed the yoma
*maybe Clare tastes bad (the opposite of Raki, lol). Also, awakened Ophelia really didn't like Clare's flesh when she bite her arm. Maybe this is just because Clare is a Half Awaken (much more yoma then human) or maybe there's something special-different about Clare that makes her uber bad tasting...
*maybe there's something special about Clare, like she is able to reproduce with them.....
Raki:
yomas find him delicious. I'm not sure if this means anything extra special or not about raki that causes him to be delicious.
*we know that humans are yummy for yomas. the less human (more yoma) the less yummy. So maybe Raki is just a really pure human which is why he tastes so good... or he's special in some kind of way.
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can anyone or does anyone know or can tell what claymore or symbol the one has that saves Clare from her "brother"-yoma that had just raped her or was about to ?
any chance that:
Clare is the child of Claymores? and the Claymore that saved her was her mother?
I don't think that the Claymore which saved her, was Rafaela, but that be so cool, if Rafaela was Clare's mother. So that's what the connection is between Rafaela and Clare.... lol.... unfortunately, this probably ain't so... lol
any chance that:
Clare is the child of Claymores? and the Claymore that saved her was her mother?
Not a chance IMO. AFAIK, Claymores are "infected" at a young age, and I highly assume they become sterile as a result. And I really feel this would go against everything Claymores are depicted as.
irvinethearcher
2009-11-28, 19:43
My favourite scene:
If i was only faster, faster, F-A-S-T-E-R!
Damn, this was one of the best scenes i have ever seen or read!
Awesome!
HegemonKhan
2009-11-28, 21:50
same scene (Clare awakening her legs and saving Miria from being decapitated by Rigardo, cutting off Rigardo's arm instead) :
Clare: "Why is my body not keeping up with my mind...If only I were faster, Flora and Jean wouldn't be dead. If only I were more. If only i was more. Moreto! Moreto! Moretoooo!!!!!!!"
this is the best example of when a Claymore is realizing the limits of their human body and switch (awaken) to their yoma body which has no limits.
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2009-11-29, 19:10
I love how Clare, Miria , and Deneva break down in piata. I thought it was done well that they all broke down for differnet reasons, but that it was basically the same thing,that people were dead, that they weren't good enough that they were failers. Deneva in particlerly struck me as before she seemed to care the least about others(Helen bieng the exception :p)
Well I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly what you are trying to say but to me the fact that someone is cold and lonely is clearly primary over the details of how she became cold and lonely. Wether someone is cold and lonely because she lost someone dear to her, or because she never had anyone dear to her, or because she was raped as a child, or because she is crippled, or because her brain chemistry is messed up... It doesn't really matter much, the most important thing is she's cold and lonely and how could she get better.
:uhoh: Uh... let me rephrase so you understand why I believe the details are so important.
If you meet a person that had shut themselves off from the world you won't just be able to get them to open up by being nice to them. You have to demonstrate to them you won't hurt them. However Clare and Teresa both were running from different kinds of pains. Teresa was mainly running from betrayal, when Clare was running from fear of loss and to a lesser degree rejection (Teresa seemed to enjoy it but we all know that was a facade... but Clare seemed to only have accepted the fact the fact that humans rejected her and wanted acceptance).
So if you showed Teresa you'd never leave her, she'd just run away from you... like she did Clare. However if you went up to help Teresa and only showed her acceptance and understanding she'd not necessarily treat you any differently even though that's exactly what Clare did. You see, Clare had other attributes that also caused her to be accepted by Teresa, mainly her being a child. She depended on Teresa and had also shown kinship... which was enough to convince Teresa that Clare wouldn't betray her like she was before. When Raki's youth, to Clare's point of view, seemed more about memories of the past.
Now let's look at Clare. If you convinced her that you'd never betray her she'd tell you to leave her alone (recall Jean :p), sure she'd like you but that doesn't mean she'd want you join her party like Raki. However if you instead just told her how you felt about her and why (as long as it's positive enough for her, recall Yuma "I'm thankful... to you... AND MIRIA... for that plan", or something she considers dumb (recall Jean "I won't leave you... at least until I pay you back", and then Clare's response... to Jean's philosophy) she'd likely open up to you. However that still doesn't mean she'd fully open up to you because unlike Teresa she's been emotionally stunted, even Raki she hasn't fully opened up to. Well I should rephrase that... she didn't admit to how much she cared for Raki to herself until they where separated and the young girl asked Clare who Raki was to her.
So to sum up those "minor" difference add up to very different people. With very different reactions to the same situations. Sure they both have a back story that were a looking glass image of the others past but it's not even close to a perfect reflection.
Was that more clear? or less so?
Besides, how can you claim that Teresa and Clare became cold and lonely for radically different reasons? It is never explained what happened to Teresa, but the most natural assumption to me would be that she also lost her loved ones, like pretty much everyone in the entire series.
:uhoh: Teresa's past is listed right here... Sure there's no mention of specifics but this was all that was on Teresa's mind at the time (a.k.a. A big hint of what part of her past troubled her the most, the fact that she didn't mention a loss doesn't imply there was/wasn't one but that what was tormenting her was her current existence and the betray that lead to it).
http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/000161592/01.jpg
Lol, I remember thinking that Teresa was the final villain.
You too! :heh: I don't feel so bad any more... :p
HegemonKhan
2009-11-30, 02:49
the only problem is:
we don't know who (what humans) that Teresa was with whom "betrayed" her or "betrayed"-turned her over to the Organization
1. was teresa simply captured-taken by the slave traders (and for whatever reason Teresa believed she could trust them), and they handed her over to the Organization.
or
2. was Teresa actually betrayed by her family or friends? (maybe due to her "cursed" black "evil" eyes?)
or
3. was Teresa actually "betrayed" by a yoma (like clare and many other claymores) in the form-guise-appearance as one of her family members or friends?
the only problem is:
we don't know who (what humans) that Teresa was with whom "betrayed" her or "betrayed"-turned her over to the Organization
1. was teresa simply captured-taken by the slave traders (and for whatever reason Teresa believed she could trust them), and they handed her over to the Organization.
or
2. was Teresa actually betrayed by her family or friends? (maybe due to her "cursed" black "evil" eyes?)
or
3. was Teresa actually "betrayed" by a yoma (like clare and many other claymores) in the form-guise-appearance as one of her family members or friends?
:uhoh:
:confused: Where did you come up with those ideas? :confused:
Slave traders and the word trust just don't go together, so we can cross #1 off your list... same goes for Yoma and the word trust (from a human girls point of view any way, unless she trusting them to eat her guts). Plus why would the yoma sell Teresa to the org and not just eat her, what the yoma gets a pardon if he brings the org a new girl :p. It's clearly family/friends that sold her to the org and as a human. Though I don't think it was due to her eye/hair color that they sold her to them. :rolleyes: My bet for the motivation for them SELLING her... is financial benefit (especially after spending all the money to contract a Claymore to kill the yoma) but I could be wrong there. :eyespin::p:eyespin:
Thanks! I, so, needed a laugh.
HegemonKhan
2009-11-30, 03:14
err. i didn't ready the translated page pic you put up carefully, so ignore #3, but i'll adress it anyways...
1. well, in real life, orphaned or whatever "misfortuned" children-teens sadly often think-see their pedo sex trade pimp/rapist as a "parent" or "family" as they is all the poor child-teen has, and thus relies on them. So Teresa could have trusted the slave traders if they were the indeed the ones teresa is talking about.
though, i'd admit as Teresa is an adult remembering back to this.... if they were indeed slave traders... Claymore Teresa would kind have slaughtered them long before she ever met clare and slaughtered the bandits as we know so well.
so, they were probably family or friends. someone(s) she knew well.
2. it's possible if by "black" eyes if she means totally black eyes (SCARY!! I'd get rid of her!! SCARE THE BEEP OUTA ME!!!), but not if black as in normal human eyes with the black center-pupil.
3. i meant "Betrayal" as in: she didn't know that her "parent or sibling" is really already dead and a yoma has taken their form.
though, this goes against my fan story fic idea of Teresa having yoma (their yoki) detection powers as a human baby/child, lol.
4. you're welcome for the laugh. anytime you need another let me know, i'm sure i can cause another one, (laughs myself, see even made myself laugh, lol).
So to sum up those "minor" difference add up to very different people. With very different reactions to the same situations. Sure they both have a back story that were a looking glass image of the others past but it's not even close to a perfect reflection.
Was that more clear? or less so?
Yes, thanks! OK, I now understand what you mean. In the end, I don't agree with you, I think there is far less difference between the two than you make it out to be.
If you convinced her that you'd never betray her she'd tell you to leave her alone, sure she'd like you but that doesn't mean she'd want you join her party like Raki. However if you instead just told her how you felt about her and why she'd likely open up to you.
To be certain that someone wouldn't betray you is the same as to be certain you mean the world to them. It's one and the same.
unlike Teresa she's been emotionally stunted
Teresa was emotionally stunted as well.
However, I think we both now understand and recognise each other's position, so there's been progress even if we didn't change each other's mind. Thanks for the discussion! :)
Teresa's past is listed right here... Sure there's no mention of specifics but this was all that was on Teresa's mind at the time (a.k.a. A big hint of what part of her past troubled her the most, the fact that she didn't mention a loss doesn't imply there was/wasn't one but that what was tormenting her was her current existence and the betray that lead to it).
Haha, sorry! I thought I had read Teresa arc in manga form but guess I must have skipped some of it... Yes, in that case there is some difference here, but in my opinion not nearly as much as you make it out to be. Maybe 10-15% :P
Yes, thanks! OK, I now understand what you mean. In the end, I don't agree with you, I think there is far less difference between the two than you make it out to be.
To be certain that someone wouldn't betray you is the same as to be certain you mean the world to them. It's one and the same.
Teresa was emotionally stunted as well.
However, I think we both now understand and recognise each other's position, so there's been progress even if we didn't change each other's mind. Thanks for the discussion! :)
Glad I could clear up my position for you.
Haha, sorry! I thought I had read Teresa arc in manga form but guess I must have skipped some of it... Yes, in that case there is some difference here, but in my opinion not nearly as much as you make it out to be. Maybe 10-15% :P
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/wuut.png You haven't read the whole Teresa arc?!?!? So... You've been relying on the anime to understand the arc this whole time for it?
You are so not a true fan!
I must kill you now... http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/sun.png
(for the record: I've read it twice in the last 24 hrs... no joke.)
lulz...
I am very reluctant to watch/read the same thing more than once in a short amount of time. My favourite strategy is to watch/read something once, and then completely forget about it as quickly as possible so that it might seem new and fresh again in the shortest amount of time so I could watch it all over again without knowing precisely what comes next ^^ So paradoxally, the more I like something, the more motivation I have to NOT watch/read it many times in short timespan =P
I actually started reading manga from the start right after watching Claymore this month, but this was fueled by wanting to compare manga and anime while my memories of the anime remained fresh. They actually seemed VERY similar, so I assumed up to the Battle of Pieta there's little difference between manga and anime, and decided to skip to that point. And I actually thought I read the Teresa arc because I remember reading the forest scene and Teresa's death, but I guess I must have skipped everything except these two scenes ><
HegemonKhan
2009-11-30, 04:20
laughs... no you don't see "anything more" in the manga... if you're talking about "those" two forest scenes....
well, as you can see, what my mind immediately jumped to.. lol... when you said forest scenes+Teresa... lol
X)
I just checked, and I am certain I read the whole Teresa arc... But I somehow completely forgot about the screen with Teresa's past :S
There are many little changes through out the anime, form the manga. For instance when Irene gives her arm to Clare in the anime it kinda comes off as she knew she would be killed soon and/or leaving the viewer wondering how she'll feed herself, but in the manga she tells Clare that truly strong offensive warriors can regrow a human strength limb (so no using a Claymore, one handed at least). So since she doesn't really battle any more the loss of her Claymore limb wouldn't effect her and she could continue living the way she had been once her new arm was completely regrown in about a months time.
So it is rewarding to read the manga and after watching the anime. Plus us manga readers won't call you on making a mistake like saying there's no Teresa backstory.
I personally don't read Claymore to the level that I had when I first got into it, which was once though every other day :heh:. But now I read the whole story at least once a month if not twice or three times. I read the first five volumes again, twice over in a day, since of our debate over Raki+Clare vs Clare+Teresa. Mainly since you got me thinking nonstop about them again.
I also read multiple translations of Claymore... for two reasons, first off to better understand what was said and meant in the RAW (since I can't read Japanese), and second so I never get bored with anyone translation (which reminds me I need to thank Cyclone for telling about 10Sigh's translation, it was really good). That way I'm focusing more on the feeling of what was said rather then the exact wording of a translation.
For instance when Irene gives her arm to Clare in the anime it kinda comes off as she knew she would be killed soon and/or leaving the viewer wondering how she'll feed herself, but in the manga she tells Clare that truly strong offensive warriors can regrow a human strength limb (so no using a Claymore, one handed at least). So since she doesn't really battle any more the loss of her Claymore limb wouldn't effect her and she could continue living the way she had been once her new arm was completely regrown in about a months time.
Haha, I actually noticed that myself. Definitely thought "umm, how are you gonna get by with NO hands" while watching anime...
HegemonKhan
2009-11-30, 18:15
it's funny...
if say an extremely powerful regenerative Claymore, let's herself get sliced to pieces and then waits long enough (so she can no longer remember what her claymore body was like and thus can't regenerate back her claymore body), she can then regenerate herself back as a nearly full human again, lol....
Darker Doom
2009-12-01, 22:33
my favorite scene so far in the manga is the bit where Galatea showed up again!
Although she was blind, she's still so pretty ^^
and the bit where Teresa hugged Clare in the forest that was emotional :)
I'll add the following to the list of my favorite scenes.
A hyper-protective Alicia comes to help her sister, decides to awaken even knowing that doing so none of them would come back to human form anymore. And Beth crying and yelling at Alicia's death. So powerful. So touching. So human. My hat goes off to both of them.
HegemonKhan
2009-12-02, 19:35
Sadly, I don't think Beth's pain-revenge-anger-rage will allow her to kill Priscilla, though if Yagi wants to give us all heart attacks, have Priscilla get killed by Beth, lol....
WHAT A SHOCKER, Beth kills Priscilla!
Don't mess with the "DARK/BLACK SISTERHOOD!"
clarakiss~
2009-12-02, 21:49
Sadly, I don't think Beth's pain-revenge-anger-rage will allow her to kill Priscilla, though if Yagi wants to give us all heart attacks, have Priscilla get killed by Beth, lol....
WHAT A SHOCKER, Beth kills Priscilla!
Don't mess with the "DARK/BLACK SISTERHOOD!"
well hedgy... riful did make a comment 'it's over' meaning priscilla also killed beth at the end of the chappy.
Kikaifan
2009-12-03, 03:23
Irene reminiscing on Teresa for Clare's benefit ended up being one of my favorite scenes, in retrospect. It made me really wish they'd gone into Irene and Teresa's prior meetings.
HegemonKhan
2009-12-03, 22:56
that was probably the one time, Irene actually WAS wise, and not merely sounding wise while being often dead wrong... lol
I love this scene!
http://media4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/00000077/26.jpg
GUUAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :heh:
I would love to see this animated :D
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-26, 02:38
1. When Clare defeats Rigaldo and he say's "Magnificent!" It was just awesome...
2. When Clarice runs to Miata and saves her from Bloody Agatha and she just starts yelling and crying at her and both of them bawl on each other, so sweet.
3. When Clare punches Raki in the head before going to fight an awakened being for the first time, it was hilarious to me xD
4. When Clare put her sword through Ophelia and Ophelia slowly fell into the water while remembering her brother, very sweet and peaceful scene.
5. The newest scene where Prissy is kicking everyone's ass, finally! I've been waiting for her to go nuts xD
They're are alot more, but these are the narrowest I could get it >.>
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-26, 03:31
@ HegemonKhan
No Problemo =] I just loved how her hair was unbraided and she just laid there so peaceful and the like.
Ahhh I loved that scene. They pretty much became "Instant Friends" in that instance, because of they're similarity in there pasts and personalities. I thought it was amazing that Deneve was acting as Helen did in trying to help Undine to understand why she was the way she was, and that it was okay for her to fear death.
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-26, 03:47
And I believe Clare should be strong enough to defeat Priscilla, but after seeing Priscilla smashing down the head of Alicia of all people, I'm having my doubts.
I also feel terrible for the Claymores themselves, and the awakened beings. Because the REAL people Clare should want to get revenge on is the Organization. But I suppose Personal vendetta's have to be taken care of >.>
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-26, 20:15
They're just evil people aren't they?
Plus I can't wait to see if the organization is able to tame the destroyer...But I highly doubt that...I bet they'll be destroyed by they're own people
Saint Salty
2009-12-27, 14:57
My favorite scene in both the anime and manga is when young Clare was clutching Teresa's head after Priscilla left the area. That was a very powerful moment for me.
MichaelAngelo
2009-12-28, 09:42
My favorite scene was that extra scene of Teresa's where she twisted Rosemary's hand, saying, "I twisted it, just like this *demo* ::heh:
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-29, 14:00
I'd love to see if the Dragon tribe takes all of there forces and goes to the island and joins the battle.
(Hiyori_Tamura)
2009-12-29, 14:02
My favorite scene was that extra scene of Teresa's where she twisted Rosemary's hand, saying, "I twisted it, just like this *demo* ::heh:
Oh god, that was awesome xD
And rosemary's face was like O.O
Still doesn't really excuse what the Organization has been doing on the island though.
It might.
Though since Yagi has already made them the big bad enemy, I doubt he will justify it lol.
I don't really feel like the organization has done anything gut-wrenchingly evil to be honest. It's not like they enjoy torturing the populace or anything like that. They just seem to be interested in nothing but their goal to the point of ignoring humanity. Even our main charachters appear to think it's OK to gather children, put them through horrible pain and a high probability of death and turn them into half-monsters in order to save the population of the island from youma. Surely, if the mainland population is suffering from a similar threat, it would be OK to to sacrifice a small percentage of it for an experiment that could result in a weapon that could save them?
Of course, the mainland struggle has been told to be just a war so it's very likely to be just a power struggle between different factions while people themselves are ignored as always. But just saying that it's not at all impossible to justify the organization.
If the goal was to save humanity from certain extermination or eternal misery, I don't think it's evil to do anything that would improve our chances.
clarakiss~
2009-12-29, 20:43
my favorites scenes are raki saving clare from awakening and clare finding out from cid and galk that raki is indeed alive. her face expression was full of relief and thankfulness when she heard the news.
My favorite scene is when Ophelia goes "What will happen to those you leave behind if you just died off?" when Clare was about to give up during their 'game'.
It was really touching for me because it was when she remembered important things in her past and realized she should no longer live since she became what she despised most.
Also because it was when she gave the "Right to Fight (Manga Vol.7 / Anime Ep.14 title)" Priscilla to Clare. The anime OP (character order) finally made sense, which depicted Clare as made of her own body, Teresa's blood, Irene's arm, and Ophelia's will.
I've read the entire manga since, up to Ch.100, but that's still my favorite scene.
I don't really feel like the organization has done anything gut-wrenchingly evil to be honest. It's not like they enjoy torturing the populace or anything like that. They just seem to be interested in nothing but their goal to the point of ignoring humanity. Even our main charachters appear to think it's OK to gather children, put them through horrible pain and a high probability of death and turn them into half-monsters in order to save the population of the island from youma. Surely, if the mainland population is suffering from a similar threat, it would be OK to to sacrifice a small percentage of it for an experiment that could result in a weapon that could save them?
Of course, the mainland struggle has been told to be just a war so it's very likely to be just a power struggle between different factions while people themselves are ignored as always. But just saying that it's not at all impossible to justify the organization.
If the goal was to save humanity from certain extermination or eternal misery, I don't think it's evil to do anything that would improve our chances.
i agree, but you can't deny did some real crap back on the island. they completely disregarded the claymore's lives as though they were youma, and did things that distorted nature itself. but then again, they did it for us. guess we're all mosters in a way.
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2010-03-31, 00:46
I don't really feel like the organization has done anything gut-wrenchingly evil to be honest. It's not like they enjoy torturing the populace or anything like that. They just seem to be interested in nothing but their goal to the point of ignoring humanity. Even our main charachters appear to think it's OK to gather children, put them through horrible pain and a high probability of death and turn them into half-monsters in order to save the population of the island from youma. Surely, if the mainland population is suffering from a similar threat, it would be OK to to sacrifice a small percentage of it for an experiment that could result in a weapon that could save them?
Of course, the mainland struggle has been told to be just a war so it's very likely to be just a power struggle between different factions while people themselves are ignored as always. But just saying that it's not at all impossible to justify the organization.
If the goal was to save humanity from certain extermination or eternal misery, I don't think it's evil to do anything that would improve our chances.
This might get off topic but I have to address this. You don't think that the Org has done anything horrible? Please tell me then what is your deffinition of horrible. You have two sides of people fighting. They are both human but the Org was having a hard time so they take an island of millions maybe billions of people and then they make monsters and unleash them at the helpless people.
When the people lose too many of their familys and friends then they go to the Org were the Org exploites them for money and sends in their child solders that they have made from innocent little girls that they have tortured and made into monsters. When they can't pay they slaughter them to keep them in line.
They don't enjoy it? That guy who handles Teresa seemed almost amused when Teresa suggested what they did.
You say that the main characters don't seem to mind? Read what Miria has to say on the subject ,and I bet their were more; but then again most of them were slaughterd at pieta. Most of the Claymores seemed to except the fact that the Org is Grey, after all the Org is the only thing that can save them for the Yoma that killed all there families.
Oh Wait. The Org created the Yoma in the fist place. All of the suffering in this story are a direct result of the Org. The Org has probubly done almost as much damage to innocent people by now as the enemy forces have done to them. So tell me what does the Org have to do to be considered exspecially heinous? Short of flat killing off everyone on the island theirs not much they haven't done and they have destroyed almost half of it by now.
Favorite scene: I just read again the part were Deneva of all people brakes down.
Number 15? Don't make me laugh. "Don't tear yourself apart all alone. You have comrades!? What a load of crap! Never mind about protecting Undine, I can't even land a single cut on that basterd to avenge her!
Deneva always seemes so cold but this really shows that Deneva really cares about her friend besides Helen after all.
I'm getting the feeling that you didn't really read my post too carefully. I'm not saying that based on the information available the org is definitely not horrible. I'm saying that based on the information available it is possible that it isn't. I am even sure that Yagi will never redeem the org, but at the moment, we don't know the whole story. We know nothing about what's going on on the mainland. It's like when you find out that some guy shot and killed his wife you immediately think that he's despicable. Well what if it turns out he killed his wife because she had gone insane and was holding a knife to a kid's throat saying she would kill the kid? Not so despicable anymore, is it. Not at all, in fact.
What if it turns out that the dragonkin are monsters who seek nothing less than the extermination of the whole nation that created the island lab, and the whole nation is on the brink of destruction and youki warriors are the only possible way to survive? Do you really not consider conducting horrible experiments on a bunch of people justified if it is the only way to save the whole nation from certain extermination? What if the people who run the org have dedicated their lives to save their nation from a horrible fate? What if they themselves would not hesitate to put themselves through unbelievable suffering if only it would help to save their people? Would you still consider them horrible?
Once again, I am not saying that this is the case, I am actually certain that Yagi will always continue to depict the org as the bad guys. I am just saying that no information has been given to us that would exclude the possibility (unless the last 3 chapters which I haven't read yet have revealed something new).
Think outside the box ^^
Awakened
2010-04-01, 23:35
I'm getting the feeling that you didn't really read my post too carefully. I'm not saying that based on the information available the org is definitely not horrible. I'm saying that based on the information available it is possible that it isn't. I am even sure that Yagi will never redeem the org, but at the moment, we don't know the whole story. We know nothing about what's going on on the mainland. It's like when you find out that some guy shot and killed his wife you immediately think that he's despicable. Well what if it turns out he killed his wife because she had gone insane and was holding a knife to a kid's throat saying she would kill the kid? Not so despicable anymore, is it. Not at all, in fact.
What if it turns out that the dragonkin are monsters who seek nothing less than the extermination of the whole nation that created the island lab, and the whole nation is on the brink of destruction and youki warriors are the only possible way to survive? Do you really not consider conducting horrible experiments on a bunch of people justified if it is the only way to save the whole nation from certain extermination? What if the people who run the org have dedicated their lives to save their nation from a horrible fate? What if they themselves would not hesitate to put themselves through unbelievable suffering if only it would help to save their people? Would you still consider them horrible?
Once again, I am not saying that this is the case, I am actually certain that Yagi will always continue to depict the org as the bad guys. I am just saying that no information has been given to us that would exclude the possibility (unless the last 3 chapters which I haven't read yet have revealed something new).
Think outside the box ^^
Your example is not a valid one. You said the husband killed his guilty wife to save his kid, but the Org kills the innocent kids to save the husband and the wife.
We had a debate on that subject. My argument was that if mankind was at risk, there would be no need to scarify innocent people. People would volunteer to be experimented on.
Your example is not a valid one.
I wasn't bringing an analogy to what the org is doing. I was bringing an analogy to how people jump to conclusions.
the Org kills the innocent kids to save the husband and the wife.
A better analogy would be killing a hundred husbands and wives and kids to save a million husbands and wives and kids.
if mankind was at risk, there would be no need to scarify innocent people. People would volunteer to be experimented on.
Oh really? How can you be so sure that there would be enough such people? What a wild assumption!
Awakened
2010-04-02, 16:37
I wasn't bringing an analogy to what the org is doing. I was bringing an analogy to how people jump to conclusions.
A better analogy would be killing a hundred husbands and wives and kids to save a million husbands and wives and kids.
Oh really? How can you be so sure that there would be enough such people? What a wild assumption!
People are letting themselves be experimented on for a lesser cause than to save mankind. Add eternal youth, beauty and strength and you will have all kind of people volunteering.
Edit:
Lets no forget that many Claymores awaken because of the Org. They are not trained to resist or are not chosen properly.
Look, I'm not saying that the org is not terrible. I'm saying that it's possible that they aren't. Yagi hasn't told us what the mainland is like. It's perfectly possible to make your scenario happen. It's perfectly possible to make my scenario happen.
If you still disagree, fine, enough of this derail.
Spectacular_Insanity
2010-04-05, 18:08
My favorite scene was that extra scene of Teresa's where she twisted Rosemary's hand, saying, "I twisted it, just like this *demo* ::heh:
That scene was very lulzy in general. :heh:
I think my favorite scene from the Manga is this one:
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/00000078/29.jpg
BlakeYuri16
2010-07-23, 18:19
I thought that was Jeane?? Jeane Got Punched by Rigardo and his whole fist went through her gut.
One of my favorite parts of the anime, really stirred up some deep emotions for me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Psylis/Claymore/11UdinesFallenFriendthumb.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Psylis/Claymore/10UdinesFallenFriend.png)
Some of my favorite characters in the Anime (I haven't read the manga yet) are minor characters that die in the Northern Campaign. Undine's flashbacks mention the friend who's gravestone she carries with her everywhere she goes. You only ever see shots of her back lying there dead, and you're never told her name. I love the mystery and incredible sadness.
When Ophelia readjust her head and stares at the sky, "Like I'm going to die just because my head was twisted".
When Ophelia readjust her head and stares at the sky, "Like I'm going to die just because my head was twisted".
That's a strange one for me, but never the less, we all do have our own different opinions.:)
Well the subject of this thread is "favourite" scene not "most touching scene". ;)
Shiek927
2010-09-02, 13:45
Well the subject of this thread is "favourite" scene not "most touching scene". ;)
For somebody, they both could be the same thing :).
It could be. It depends on what an individual prioritises. :)
1. The Assault on Pieta - I really loved Clare's battle against Rigardo. She wanted him dead so much after killing her friends that she actually succeeded in killing him.
2. Teresa of the Faint Smile - I found Clare's time with Teresa to be very cute
3. Genesis of War - I like how the seven survivors teamed up and rescued Galatea and the town of Rabona
the moment when Teresa realizes that Clare's "need for attention" is actually concern and an attempt to offer comfort and compassion. Yagi's ability to so acutely portray and capture this key moment in such a captivating fashion still boggles me to this day. This is by no means the first or last such moment, but definitely the first to affect me enough to bring actual tears to my own eyes! It was incredible to be drawn in to the story to such a degree - to actually share the tears of the character. Words alone fail miserably at describing the overall sensation - so I apologize if this attempted explanation fails to express my awe for Yagi's talent. :bow:
1. The death of Elena, Clare's only friend during her early Claymore years.
2. The moment Clare spoke and Teresa finally understood Clare's motives.
3. Ilena/Irene's recount of "that" day and what Clare gave to Teresa.
4. The death of Ophelia. Like all Claymore, she's a tragic character.
5. Jean's death while saving Clare from awakening.
Claymore has a lot of action but at its core, the story tugs at your heart. Probably because most can relate in part or in whole to the events that Yagi portrays in this story. It's more cerebral than how it may outwardly first appear.
EnchantingPrincess
2010-12-03, 02:10
1. The Assault on Pieta - I really loved Clare's battle against Rigardo. She wanted him dead so much after killing her friends that she actually succeeded in killing him.
2. Teresa of the Faint Smile - I found Clare's time with Teresa to be very cute
Seconded :D
Quicksword
2010-12-04, 00:23
I think I've posted before I'm not so sure..I'm like Betty White when it comes down to these things except she doesn't forget half as much as I do.
There are numerous favorites but I recently watched the anime again for the hundred time (feels like it) and I was moved when Irene smiled when Clare attach Irene arm to her body. That women had never smiled in the anime until she saw Clare attach her arm.
The Clare/Teresa moment of course when she finally understood that Clare understood that her pain.
There so many from Jean to Alicia/Beth to Riful/Dauf and Miria and Galatea...so so many
I have to say I love all the mother figures in the anime(Teresa, Clare although she seemed like a big sister to Raki, Miria, Irene, and Galatea)...I have no one favorite.
Cephei Mordred
2010-12-21, 06:57
The Org is definitely evil. A person can be heartless without neccesarily taking pleasure in it.
Anyway...
0. Teresa killing the bandits. It was powerfully executed, and damn if they didn't have it coming.
1. Priscilla's introduction. She was so earnest and wasn't even aware of her own power.
2. Galatea's introduction. That stole the scene for me, even though the scene was supposed to center around Miria's 'the organization be trippin, yo' speech.
3. That said, any scene going into more detail about the deep secrets of the organization.
4. The introduction of the fused 'statue' of Rafaela and Luciela. It was both horrifying and beautiful. Dare I even say, lesyaytastic? :p
5. Any scene with Dietrich. Yeah, she's kind of my favorite, somewhere in between Priscilla and Galatea. Specifically, her emotional recounting of what happened to her hometown. Heck, I might go read up on her again.
love it when easley is being munched on by the so called "abyss hunters/eaters".. still cool and composed and surprisingly affectionate to his "adopted family" members.. more like a hen that has already guided her chicks to adulthood. resigned to the fact that he is doomed but there is this contentment with his family. well, one cannot deny that this developed relationship has weakened his power drastically since he has been eating guts at bare minimum and perhaps has grown a heart somewhere.
if i might add, the real shocker was when the "old" powerhouse north, west & south has been toppled as i've been expecting claire's team to be the cause, which was not!
CaloricMoon
2011-01-31, 12:36
My Favorite hands down was pricilla's awakening, after she kills teresa. It was almost heartbreaking that she pushed herself so hard and her human side left only enough memories about her life to torment her that she awakened.
Beautiful
Sephrim1
2011-02-19, 14:26
I watched a few beginning episodes of Claymore. The episodes where the boy first got saved and then started traveling with her, but it's honestly a bit too gory for me. Unless it has a good story, if it has a good story to match the blood, then it would be pretty good. I hate anime's such as Devil May Cray cough cough, that have a bunch of blood and gore, but they don't really have a great story to match. I don't know, I just love animes with a lot of action, but great stories have to be there or it's not point.
evil_kenshin
2011-02-19, 14:30
I watched a few beginning episodes of Claymore. The episodes where the boy first got saved and then started traveling with her, but it's honestly a bit too gory for me. Unless it has a good story, if it has a good story to match the blood, then it would be pretty good. I hate anime's such as Devil May Cray cough cough, that have a bunch of blood and gore, but they don't really have a great story to match. I don't know, I just love animes with a lot of action, but great stories have to be there or it's not point.
gory? the series isn't really that gory :heh: something like hellsing on the other hand I would class as gory
gory? the series isn't really that gory :heh: something like hellsing on the other hand I would class as gory
Or Basilisk. Now that was gory.
MisterJB
2011-02-21, 07:19
C'mon, Basilisk? Gory? Please.
You want gore watch Elfen Lied, Genocyber, Gantz.
C'mon, Basilisk? Gory? Please.
You want gore watch Elfen Lied, Genocyber, Gantz.
Try Van Dread.:D (not):)
Tempest35
2011-03-02, 23:23
My favorite scene(s) - bar NONE: The Return of The Phantom
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3604/claymore2053303.th.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/claymore2053303.jpg/)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/937/claymore2053305.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/claymore2053305.jpg/)
SpiritOfGray
2011-03-10, 11:57
I have to say one of my favorite scenes was this one.
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc67/spiritwave1/yoma.png
Here is where Teresa slays the true villain of Claymore. He who set the forces in motion. One day he will return...okay probably not.
Shiek927
2011-03-10, 18:37
I have to say one of my favorite scenes was this one.
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc67/spiritwave1/yoma.png
Here is where Teresa slays the true villain of Claymore. He who set the forces in motion. One day he will return...okay probably not.
ROFLMAO, who? Rig? Yep, he's the true villain :heh:, everything can be traced back to this scumbag :heh::heh::heh:
SpiritOfGray
2011-03-10, 21:24
That is the MSY of the whole series right there. Most successful Yoma.
-He got killed by possibly the strongest Claymore ever.
-United Clare and Teresa.
-Awakened Priscilla.
-Saved the the Ghosts to be by having Clare partially awaken and kill Rigardo.
-Caused Isley to go South.
-Created the Destroyer.
And now look, he's causing an attack on the organization. lol
Although I think he's a scumbag for abusing Clare...which is why I like that scene of him getting chopped in half. I wouldn't be surprised if he came out in the last chapter as the final boss. Just look at that quote. "Eh?" He clearly was not impressed by Teresa and suppressed his yoki to levels she couldn't even sense. He's still out there I tell ya.
Cari-san
2011-04-16, 01:20
My fav scenes r:
Anime:
-all Teresa scene
-when Clare saved Jeane
-when Jeane helped Clare to turn back from awakening (last ep)
Manga:
-all Clarice and Miata scene
-when Helen and Deneve meets Dietrich
-Chapter 92: when Clare meets and fight with Rafaela
-Clare vs Prissy fight from the chapter 100
Cari-san
2011-04-17, 04:37
That is the MSY of the whole series right there. Most successful Yoma.
-He got killed by possibly the strongest Claymore ever.
-United Clare and Teresa.
-Awakened Priscilla.
-Saved the the Ghosts to be by having Clare partially awaken and kill Rigardo.
-Caused Isley to go South.
-Created the Destroyer.
And now look, he's causing an attack on the organization. lol
Although I think he's a scumbag for abusing Clare...which is why I like that scene of him getting chopped in half. I wouldn't be surprised if he came out in the last chapter as the final boss. Just look at that quote. "Eh?" He clearly was not impressed by Teresa and suppressed his yoki to levels she couldn't even sense. He's still out there I tell ya.
So then Rig is the real controller of the happenings?:heh:
Then I must say, thank you Rig. Without u would may be Claymore more boring.
Mighty_frog
2011-05-02, 03:32
My favorite scene has to be at the very end of chapter 77... ...when the Ghosts arrive in Rabona just in the nick of time to save Clarice + Miata + Galatea from Agatha.
Clare: A town that i have links to...will not be destroyed this easily
Agatha: You...who are you?
(cut to badass shot of all the Ghosts covered in their cloaks except for Clare)
Clare: You do not need to know...because you will die here.
man that scene gave me goosebumps. Even though its a somewhat cliched exchange in shonen manga there was something about the delivery that really hit home that Clare meant business...or maybe it was just the way I imagined it in my head haha.
blood-red-butterfly
2011-05-07, 01:10
In anime:
1. All parts with Ophelia.
2. The multiple faceplants of Clare.
3. When Irene saved Clare and was teaching her the quicksword. (Irene is so epic.)
4. The awakened being battle with Helen, Deneve, Miria, and Clare.
5. When Jean was stalking Clare xD
In manga:
1. All Clarice and Miata parts. (I freaking love Miata!)
2. Clare battling Priscilla.
3. When Helen and Deneve meet Dietrich.
One of my favourite scenes is this one:
http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/6604/6fe5f966033210.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6fe5f966033210)
Knightwalker
2011-08-12, 08:01
My two favorite scenes ATM are:
-Priscilla decapitating Alicia
-Hysteria performing her elegant move on Miria (Actually have that as my wallpaper for my iPad)
Hm, there are quite a few. I'm a sucker for scenes wherein characters act out of character. A prime example is when Alicia awakened to help an awakened Beth against Priscilla. She knew doing so would mean both of them wouldn't be able to go back to being human, but she did it anyway because she knew Beth had no chance against Priscilla by herself.
A warrior "powering up" to help another... Nothing too special about that, right? What made the scene truly stand out was the fact that Alicia was supposed to be a mindless automaton, essentially without emotions. For her to do that, it was truly striking.
I'll try to come up with other ones later.
Claymore!
2011-08-13, 12:28
There are so many great scenes,
my favorite (in random order)
When Clare and Teresa cry together in the woods. (and Most scenes with Clare and Teresa)
When Clare was fighting her first AB and almost won single handedly.
When Clare kissed Raki.
When We saw Helen and Deneve again in the Northern war (and Miria).
When the 7 ghost showed up in Rabona to beat Agatha.
When Raki was owning all the organizations ninjas.
Oh, just remembered one.
Scene 66, when all the 24 warriors sent to Pieta crossed swords after Miria told them all to take half a yoki suppressant pill, wishing each other luck that they may survive the battle the next day. Such powerful imagery in that tiny box at the lower left side of the page.
astrallionheart
2011-09-23, 17:58
Any time when Clare is working on her prostitute charm.
carbontaxes
2011-10-16, 21:07
Most of the memorable scenes from the manga and anime that were mentioned here are pretty much in line with the ones that have affected me to some extent.
However, there is one scene from the anime that makes me chuckle inside every single time. At the end of "Clares Awakening" and they're waiting to leave Rabona, Gawk (sp?) throws a sword to Raki ....blade first. And Raki catches it with his bare hands by the blade. My mental image always wants to finish this scene with the sword slicing his hands off lol.
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