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NoSanninWa
2008-03-01, 03:10
Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 78.
The thread was created before the chapter was published. Usually false spoilers start to appear early so (naturally) people always need a place to discuss them.
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Chapter 79 will probably be released on April 4th, a month from now. That's the usual release date.
Update: Chapter 79 is being released on May 4th. Yeah, everyone else is disappointed also.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 03:30
Wow... I was wondering when this thread would be started.
You got me all excited and by creating this thread I thought it was released already... damn...
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 03:32
Well, this month's installment? Lots of blood flying around, that's for sure.
ghazghkull
2008-03-01, 03:32
LOL You're not the only one.
Just 3 more days until the release, so I give it maybe 12 hours after the initial release before a subbed version comes out :3
I am so looking forward to see what the Survivor 7 are going to do to Agatha. By the looks of it, Clare is going to lay waste upon her, considering she already slashed the poor Awakened Being's leg to pieces :3
Plus, I'm looking forward to more development between Miata and Clarice, if there is going to be any, however. I like them personally, so I hope they get some more character development done on them.
Lights of Euphoria
2008-03-01, 03:51
I'm still rather dumbfounded how come Galatea took her precious time with Bloody Agatha, nevermind little Miata in the background.
She was a former no. 4 for crying out loud...
NoSanninWa
2008-03-01, 03:54
I'm still rather dumbfounded how come Galatea took her precious time with Bloody Agatha, nevermind little Miata in the background.
She was a former no. 4 for crying out loud...So?
Galatea was a former number 3, but Agatha was a former number 2 before she awakened and became even more powerful. Also Miata's number is below her strength rating because of her mental handicap. Honestly, Galatea needs to be a lot more powerful than a number 3 just to keep up with those two.
Galatea was not taking her time, she was struggling to stay alive while fighting out of her depth.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 03:58
No.3 actually. Also, note that she's a defensive. I guess she's the "balanced" type, good at attack and defence. Remember, Jean had the greatest penetration power of her time, and she was only no. 9.
Besides her manipulation of Yoki, Galatea's other asset is the extent of her power boost when she taps into her own Yoki, which is something she's not doing now.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 04:11
Anyway, I digress. Who wants to bet that Helen would be so preoccupied that she won't have any smart retorts at all for this chapter?
Huh? All fights which Helen has participated in, she was useful. Why do you think she would be preoccupied this time?
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 04:16
I mean she usually has a smart retort even as she struts her stuff. I wonder if the naked hag would be able to keep her on her toes so much that her motor mouth becomes quiet?
I'm waiting for Galatea's reaction to whe she sees Clare. She'll be like: "It's you!" "Damnit I should've killed you and your browless friend back there! Because of you they sent me to feed the yoma in their yoma farm!" :D
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 04:47
I'm waiting for Galatea's reaction to whe she sees Clare. She'll be like: "It's you!" "Damnit I should've killed you and your browless friend back there! Because of you they sent me to feed the yoma in their yoma farm!" :D
Haha!!
On a more serious note, I think Galatea would only know it's her after the battle, since she cannot see or (apparently) sense them.
Haha!!
On a more serious note, I think Galatea would only know it's her after the battle, since she cannot see or (apparently) sense them.
But that's also another question that would be answered in this chapter. Can Galatea sense them or not? I think she will be able to once she is focused and not distracted or she might just regrow the damn eyes again since the reason of why she took them off is no longer valid :p
Search for it now!http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8609/87698798763214de7.jpg
Thats Agatha true awakened face
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8967/q349102934ay8.jpg
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 05:15
Assuming that Claymores have to reopen their wounds in order to heal scars....
Man, if Galatea's eyes stare through that bit of blood, I'll go,"WTF". Seriously.
EDIT: That looks so much better. Sick of looking at a naked killer.
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 05:18
Man, Galatea working on the farm. I'm sure whoever hires slaves from the north says to all the men slaves who work there, "You can work for I while and I'll set you free. Just don't touch my daughter... er Galatea..." No one makes it off the farm alive.
And that pic is terrifying. I love claymore so much.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 05:20
Well, I won't say it's terrifying. Then again, the One Piece I read this afternoon is having a hangover effect on me.
Btw, Is Galatea gonna get her arm back?
I mean she`s blind and no arm:S and fighting a former #2 awakened and yet she`s not trying to kill miata. Now that`s hard work! She must be really powerful now^^
But now her friends are back^^ I think she`s gonna join the 7 ghosts.
NoSanninWa
2008-03-01, 05:32
Btw, Is Galatea gonna get her arm back?
Galatea is a defensive type. All defensive types are able to regenerate their limbs.
ah right! I forgot that.^^
Search for it now!http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8609/87698798763214de7.jpg
Thats Agatha true awakened face
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8967/q349102934ay8.jpg
And some people thought that it would be a fast kill for Agatha! :)
I am already excited!
Can't find it anywhere, I guess it's only mos and his super search abilities. Oh well, another day wouldn't hurt.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 06:35
And some people thought that it would be a fast kill for Agatha! :)
I am already excited!
Fast kill = within this chapter, which I think is still entirely possible. Aftermath in next chapter.
irvinethearcher
2008-03-01, 06:39
Fast kill = within this chapter, which i think is still entirely possible.
100% agreed
Fast kill = within this chapter, which I think is still entirely possible. Aftermath in next chapter.
With this apparent "enhanced" form of Agatha, I think it wont be in this chapter altho I'd really love for it to finish to see the aftermath.
Oh well, I am sure the whole thing would be out any time now so let's wait and see :D
Cool, look like Agatha know some tricks, Im hopeing for a nice battle :). I suspected that she is going to show she is not so that weak.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 08:26
Well, I haven't seen the chapter yet, but I hope that something like this is inside:
Helen (after seeing transformation): So, the naked b**** decided to show her ugly face, huh? *smirk*
Deneve: Don't lose your head. We're not home free yet.
Helen: Whatever. I think we're somewhat redundant. (Clare and Miria already keeping Agatha fully occupied.)
Negativedark
2008-03-01, 09:10
Well, I haven't seen the chapter yet, but I hope that something like this is inside:
Helen (after seeing transformation): So, the naked b**** decided to show her ugly face, huh? *smirk*
Deneve: Don't lose your head. We're not home free yet.
Helen: Whatever. I think we're somewhat redundant. (Clare and Miria already keeping Agatha fully occupied.)
Deneve: At least you get to *DO* damage in a fight, instead of just taking it.
Miria: I don't hear an arm winding up or someone bieng a human shield back there!
Meanwhile...
Tabitha: I'll help you down miss Galetea.
Galetea: Thanks- Did you just cop a feel!?
Tabitha: No, of course not.
On a more serious note, I think Galatea would only know it's her after the battle, since she cannot see or (apparently) sense them.
She can hear them. It is obvious that Clare will open her big trap before the end of the fight. I mean, she already did talk to Agatha. ;)
Now, will Galatea remember Clare's voice, that's another story!
Arcananine77
2008-03-01, 10:06
Search for it now!http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8609/87698798763214de7.jpg
Thats Agatha true awakened face
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8967/q349102934ay8.jpg
Meh. It's nothing but an alternate version of Riful. Kinda disappointing really.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/805/0987098710293874023948ix2.jpg
If posting scan gets me ban. I will remove them.. Sorry .
Icephere
2008-03-01, 10:34
Yeah, besides I'm not sure if posting scans will get you banned. :eyebrow:
khryoleoz
2008-03-01, 10:45
That short outfit Clare is wearing is provocative. Yummy.
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 11:05
lol yea :3 but is Agatha apart of Riful's army
can't wait to see some Yuma Punch action and Deneve action...i wonder wat gonna happen after Agatha gets defeated
Translation:
古妮亚攻击变的身躯巨大的阿迦莎三股力量形成了可以和嘉拉迪亚的感知力相匹敌的好手, Nie attack of the body tremendous change Ajiasha three forces can be formed and Jialadie perception of the rival players,
正因如此,传递了更多有关阿迦萨本体的相关信息。 For this reason, the transfer of more Ajiasa Ontology relevant information.
由于获取了正确的情报,阿迦萨被削弱,阿迦莎在紧急关头准备逃走。 As access to the right information, Ajiasa being weakened, Ajiasha critical juncture in the preparations for escape.
这时嘉拉迪亚做掩护,古妮亚斩杀了阿迦莎! Then Jialadie do cover of Nie beheaded Ajiasha!
--------------------- END OF TRANSLASTION
Seems like Jialadie = Galatea, Nie = No clue, Ajiasha = Agatha.
If this was right then Agatha would be beheaded in this chapter? If it was true, it also seems that Galatea can actually sense the ghosts.
Translated by Google from one of the Chinese forums.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 11:20
Actually, Agatha's true awakened form looks like a mix between Riful and Hilda. She does look more intimidating then Riful tbh (although Riful is badass).
If Agatha has shown us a "true form" then I expect this fight won't be over till the end of the next chapter.
I also notice that she does use tentacles (or vine-like thingies), instead of Riful's "ribbons." (which are more stylish)
zato_1one
2008-03-01, 11:35
Agatha can't die by beheading. Or it means cutting her hair? :hmm:
It's better to not know that it's already released. Knowing that but can't find it really painful to me. :upset:
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 11:37
They could very well behead her, not realizing that it is a fake out, but Galatea would warn them soon afterwards.
Agatha can't die by beheading. Or it means cutting her hair? :hmm:
It's better to not know that it's already released. Knowing that but can't find it really painful to me. :upset:
Maybe the true form makes beheading fatal, who knows. Or maybe they took the hair as well with the swing without realizing it the fatal point. It's google translation so it's not that accurate.
I agree with you. I am feeling the pain as well >.<. I think I am gonna go sleep and come back later :eyespin:
Yah the ghost 7's new outfit is definitely much much much better. :heh:
I don't think the battle with Agatha will finish in this chapter either...
Ghost 7 is gonna kidnap galatea and hide so that they can talk and agatha will taunt them to come out. A classic tale...
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 12:23
Search for it now!http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8609/87698798763214de7.jpg
Thats Agatha true awakened face
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8967/q349102934ay8.jpg
she looks like Riful
[SPOILER="Could this be true?"] Translation:
古妮亚攻击变的身躯巨大的阿迦莎三股力量形成了可以和嘉拉迪亚的感知力相匹敌的好手,正因如此,传递了更多 有关阿迦萨本体的相关信息。
由于获取了正确的情报,阿迦萨被削弱,阿迦莎在紧急关头准备逃走。
这时嘉拉迪亚做掩护,古妮亚斩杀了阿迦莎!
--------------------- END OF TRANSLASTION
It can be roughly translated into:
"After Agatha fully awaken her body, her yoma enegry output increased.
And because of that, Galatea was able to read it and find her weakeness.
Then Agatha tried to run but was stopped by the combined might of Galatea and Clare.
good finding btw, thanks =)
It can be roughly translated into:
"After Agatha fully awaken her body, her yoma enegry output increased.
And because of that, Galatea was able to read it and find her weakeness.
Then Agatha tried to run but was stopped by the combined might of Galatea and Clare.
good finding btw, thanks =)
Oh. Thanks to you! ;)
Galatea still got some energy in her to fight?! I'd be impressed.
stringer13
2008-03-01, 13:30
I'm so excited. This looks like an awesome chapter. I'm guessing Agatha will die at the end of this chapter and next chapter Clare and Galatea will actually talk. Hope Agatha doesen't die tp quickly though.
Alleluia_Cone
2008-03-01, 14:08
I'm hoping that the gist of that spoiler ends up being true; if nothing else, it will restore Galatea to her lofty position above that occupied by Clare and/or Miria.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 14:23
I don't think it would put her above them in any way, considering she was pretty doomed without their help.
stringer13
2008-03-01, 14:27
I don't think that she would be considered then Clare and Miria anyway. She can't sense them, she can't control them because they don't use Yoki, and Clare did more damage then Galatea in one attack.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 14:29
Clare is more specialized in offensive damage though, considering the Windcutter.
Galatea has to use Yoki in order to burst her strength.
stringer13
2008-03-01, 14:40
Clare is more specialized in offensive damage though, considering the Windcutter.
Galatea has to use Yoki in order to burst her strength.
Yeah but Galatea didn't even wound her.:p
Alleluia_Cone
2008-03-01, 14:41
Well, I was really referring exclusively to the spoiler, which seems to indicate that it was Galatea who was the only one capable of identifying Agatha's weakness because of her superior ability at sensing Yoki; and I have always maintained that this the most important power of all in the series.
BaalChaamon
2008-03-01, 14:44
One thing fighting against two powerful enemies at the same time and another having a suprise, one-off hit or fighting in a team.
Galatea used her Yoki only to get some distance between her and Miata, she pretty much paried her attacks every single time without having to rely on Yoki bursts.
Arcananine77
2008-03-01, 15:27
I'm really hoping for Galatea to survive this and join the Ghosts. That would be incredibly awesome.
I think its almost guaranteed that Galatea is surviving. What she does afterwards is a separate issue.
stringer13
2008-03-01, 15:42
I doubt that she would join the ghosts. She used her Yoki so the orginazation can sense her. ALso she would need to use Yoki to fix her arm. Besides I don't like the name Ghost 8. :heh:
If Galatea is on there, Ghost 8 still doesn't make up for it.:D
How can you not accept Galatea...
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 16:40
umm maybe u guys forget that maybe Galatea is happy just being a Nun :heh:
Alleluia_Cone
2008-03-01, 16:47
I've never liked the concept of the eight of them together, and am hoping that either Clare leaves to join Riful or Galatea spurns them to join Riful. There needs to be some sort of moral ambiguity to the series, the whole good/evil thing is too played out when it is made exceedingly obvious. Plus, having four power factions would be great and add a lot of intrigue to the series.
lol... Shes the best looking nun I've ever seen!
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 16:48
Not to mention 7 is death just like 4. :P
(Shichi) and (shi)
:uhoh:
Edit: and there are 4 factions already
Priscilla/Isley
Organization
7 Ghosts
Riful
There is plenty of moral ambiguity in this series already, the Org, Riful, Priscilla, and the whole nature of revenge.
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 16:52
I think it would be awesome if they all awoke...yea that would pwn XD they would crush Riful and Isley
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 16:52
Clare asking Galatea to help her talk to Riful to even the playing fields might be really interesting. Also whenever Raphaela reappears... I am still really excited for that.
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 16:58
. Also whenever Raphaela reappears... I am still really excited for that.
OMG i want this event to happen some bad so we can figure out if she let Ilene go :3
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 16:58
I don't see any of the Ghosts, or Galatea for that matter, joining hands with Riful.
Especially now that Riful is well and truly pissed at Clare.
I am also extrememly interested in Raphaela's situation.
I think it would be awesome if they all awoke...yea that would pwn XD they would crush Riful and Isley
Huh?! what makes you think that would work? They will lose consciousness once they awaken and wont attack each others for no reason (remember Galatea's surprise when Alicia continued kicking the 11 ABs butts). Plus they had to be on abyssal level to be able to take on the abyssals which is something we have no clue about (I mean whether or not they would be abyssal level if they awaken).
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 17:00
Yeah if Raphaela killed Irene, wouldn't she be in the same boat as Priscilla who killed Teresa? Both attacks to Clare's mentor saviors were by order of the organization anyway. Irene also saved Clare from certain death and took care of her and even trained her giving her the quicksword attack that kept Clare alive through so much. Also tack on top of that that Raphaela sent Clare to Pieta. That could make any alliance really fuzzy.
Maybe half awakened claymores don't lose their consciousness completely when awakened ...
Maybe half awakened claymores don't lose their consciousness completely when awakened ...
Well, it's not a matter of consciousness really. Clare was mentally conscious when she fought Rigardo yet her body was acting on it's own after the fight and even killed Jean.
Anyway, I really don't want this thread to be slaughtered with completely off topic discussions as with the previous chapter thread so I will keep quiet about off topic stuff here. ;)
stringer13
2008-03-01, 17:10
One of my ideas is that in 2 chapters Galatea will tell Clare about Irene. She might have found out about her from the org or something. Well I'm not sure that Galatea will tell her, but I believe she'll somehow find out that Raphaela killed Irene. When she next sees Raphaela I believe that she will finally release her Yoki. Then if she will fight her for a while and Raphaela might say Irene's alive.
What if Galatea tried to partially awaken? Someone like her could do it successfully I think. Then maybe she'd become almost as good as that yoki manipulator at Pieta.
Agatha probably isn't going to die until the next chapter.
What if Galatea tried to partially awaken? Someone like her could do it successfully I think. Then maybe she'd become almost as good as that yoki manipulator at Pieta.
Agree, partially awakeing would be cool for her too.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 19:54
It would very quickly become at "LOL, all the cool-kids are doing it" thing if that happened. I don't think Partially Awakening is just something you can "do."
Not sure of Galatea would know anything about Raphaela's mission concerning Irene, considering Raphaela herself was partially hush hush.
What if Galatea tried to partially awaken? Someone like her could do it successfully I think. Then maybe she'd become almost as good as that yoki manipulator at Pieta.
I don't think she has partially awakening needs a large yoki relese it'd be like haveing a big flashing sign over her head telling every claymore within a large distance exactly where you are,plus its a huge risk to try it without someone like herself to pull her back.
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 20:12
Although if anyone could would be good at half awakening by technique galatea would be the perfect candidate in my opinion. She is one of the few non-half awakened warriors who has seen half awakening multiple times (Deneve, Clare, Felt Jean, and witnessed a successful soul link with Alicia and Beth). She knows it is possible, which next to will power seems to be one of the biggest factors (Jean didn't think it was possible even though she held her human consciousness as her body completely transformed).
In the past Galatea didn't need to worry about cloaking her youki because she out ranges her attackers and can move before they sense and locate her (unless Raphaela or the 7 come for her...) She released a ton of youki in the last fight so she'll have a sign over her head anyway. The biggest problem for her joining the 7 is that she can't go wherever she wants if she plans to remain in hiding because if she is in range of someone she will be detected. She might have to stay back and play house at some sort of claymore headquarters if she is going to remain safe. Or sit back until the covert ops team needs her. Or she could be a great decoy :D. Someone comes to attack Galatea and finds she has 7 friends with her...
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 20:25
Still don't see how she would be able to do it by herself though, considering Yoki-manipulation already takes a huge amount of concentration, and Galatea herself commented that what Alicia and Beth do would be impossible for her. (Perfect Yoki alignment)
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 20:46
Come on, both Helen and boiling blood Clare managed to half awaken. Neither of them seem to be the pinnacle of self control like Jean. How hard can it really be for Galatea? Get one of the orphan kids (or cid) to give Galatea a hug and she will make it through just fine.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 20:48
I don't think it is based only on mental strength, otherwise there wouldn't be half as many ABs as there are now. Remember that Jean was only able to preserve her mind while her body was awakened, but needed Clare's help to turn back.
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 21:02
I was under the impression that the organization probably killed off those who were half awakened like the fab 4 were supposed to be in the Paburo Mountain range during the Slashers arc. It seemed almost like the MiB had a policy going on and some agreement with that AB. 5 half awakened claymores out of 47 is 10.6% (although probably even fewer than 47 with Jeans group getting killed). Considering how many claymores we see die in combat as opposed to using the card system that is pretty high. How sad would it be if this were always the way it had been in the organization? Maybe this generation is just special?
It seemed to me like the biggest barrier that the claymores faced was that it they thought it was impossible to return. Even Jean, while holding onto her consciousness far beyond what was supposed to be possible, begged clare to kill her because returning was impossible. Fortunately for Galatea Clare is an expert at bringing back partially awakened friends :D. Galatea even taught her how to do it. She is the mother of Clare's partially awakened assisted return synchronization technique. All Galatea has to do is go over a little and come back and she can join the club! No need for full body awakenings until the mechanics of the soul link is explored more carefully (and Raphaela returns ;)) I don't mean to say that Galatea will partially awaken, just that she is a better candidate than just about anyone else in the series.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 21:12
Hmm, I would sooner believe that Clare's generation is just full of rare-exceptions, there are several already after all.
If the Organization was systematically killing off partially-awakened warriors it definetly wouldn't go unnoticed, especially if previous generations had people as curious as Miria or Galatea.
Clare is also not what i'd call an "excellent" back-up buddy for Galatea, as Clare herself said that she was several strained just doing what she did, and even said it was unlikely she could do it again.
She does have a better chance then most, but not one that i'd bank on and risk her awakening for.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 21:49
The jigsaw is assembling itself, but pieces are still missing. Oh well *waits for D.Gray-man chapter 151*
(In case anyone takes shots at me, that's how I survive the rest of the month before the next chapter.)
whitewizard
2008-03-01, 22:19
Im guessing after the fight is over ghost 7 will offer galatea to join them in taking down the organization but i doubt she'll join, she's not the groupie type i think. So most probably the'yll just exchange info and go separate ways and meet again some other time. About irene i doubt she's still alive, remember clare felt something on her borrowed arm when raphaela was with irene, i guess that scene tells it all..and besides she has already fullfilled her purpose in the story so i dont think she'll be needed anymore there. Unless she still has some secret technique which she can teach clare how to fight...and that is by using her feet only :p
I think if partially-awakening was fairly common Galatea or Miria would know something about it,it could be that this generation had something diffrent or it could just be a fluke that they was so many at the same time.
I doubt Galatea or any claymore would willing go over there limits it's like playing with fire in most cases its as good as commiting suicide.Another point is we don't know if there only prelonging the awakening process or if they have gone beyond that already which is another reason I wouldn't try it.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 22:27
The case for Irene: For her to be alive, I can only think of one situation, and that is she travels together with Rafaela. Wrote a fic on it...
Based on their exchange, I'm pretty sure that Irene would be able to hit some of Rafaela's soft spots by using the right words.
A cover from this chapter ^^
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8530/193942053c46cdad9c1b154ft8.jpg
Credits : Lion-Passby
Awakened
2008-03-01, 22:51
There could have been partial awakened claymores in every generation. The fab 4 would have died long time ago if the Org had their way.
This generation is lucky to have Clare.
Clare is special because she has lots of friends, claymore are usualy loners.
No matter how strong you are, eventually you will need help, and when that time comes and there is no one around, you will fall.
chibamonster
2008-03-01, 22:54
Ahhh! A cover?!?! When I start seeing images from the comic I get all antsy.
This is all speculation on my part but I agree with awakened. Waiting for the next chapter is grinding on me. I haven't started D.Grayman yet. Maybe I will do that after I post :D. I think that if the MIB's plan had worked Galatea would definitely know nothing about half awakening because the fab 4 would have all died. Clare was the reason they survived. I definitely agree that she is an exception with the whole Teresa instead of just raw youma bit. Miria, on the other hand, does know something about the organization's "secret" whatever it may be. They tried to vicariously kill Miria and Clare (and maybe the others, I don't know) several times. Pieta anyone?
Was it just chance that 4 partially awakened Claymores were gathered together? That is the first and by her own words most important question Miria asks; if they had ever passed their limits. They all had. Then she asked if they were trouble makers. Most of them were, but Miria was acting as dutiful as she could while investigating the organization. She even somehow peeked into the organizations deepest secret, whatever it is. Maybe it ties into the partial awakend? It seems that the 4 were gathered BECAUSE they were partially awakened, not by chance because they were trouble makers although that couldn't hurt either. Following Clare's progression from the early chapters she probably would have gotten in over her head and died at some point. Why make a point to kill her when she was headed that way by herself?
This is just me, but I do not think Clare's generation is really that different from other generations. We have little to go off of though because we have seen little of other generations. Teresa's generation seemed to be more full of exceptions in my opinion, namely herself and Priscilla. There is also Alicia and Beth, but they have been trained for years and calculated for a long time, even before Teresa although they might even belong in the same boat as Teresa's generation for time created.
I do not think that Clare and the Fab 4 were the first few partially awakened claymores. Just the first few to survive the heavy attempts on their lives. If it were not for Clare they would all be dead and Jean would be completely awakened. Were it not for Priscilla inspiring Isley and the other Abyssals to move there might not have been enough turmoil for the partially awakened claymores to escape with their life. Raphaela could have hunted them down. She did send Jean and Clare to their death in Pieta as the organization calculated.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 23:03
chibamonster: Get started on D.Gray, if only to keep your sanity in between the months.
It's interesting to note that Priscilla and Clare had upset the chessboards of both Isley and the MIB. However, I believe in a greater chessboard, where the players are not yet known to us.
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 23:07
The case for Irene: For her to be alive, I can only think of one situation, and that is she travels together with Rafaela. Wrote a fic on it...
Based on their exchange, I'm pretty sure that Irene would be able to hit some of Rafaela's soft spots by using the right words.
lol yea never thought about that but yea i hope ur right :rolleyes::D
stringer13
2008-03-01, 23:25
The case for Irene: For her to be alive, I can only think of one situation, and that is she travels together with Rafaela. Wrote a fic on it...
Based on their exchange, I'm pretty sure that Irene would be able to hit some of Rafaela's soft spots by using the right words.
I read that. It was really good you should make more of it.
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 23:28
I read that. It was really good you should make more of it.
Been busy/lazy recently. Also, reading D.Gray (which is now reaching a new climax).
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 23:33
A cover from this chapter ^^
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8530/193942053c46cdad9c1b154ft8.jpg
Credits : Lion-Passby
Those outfits are certainly form-hugging, wish we had a colored pic of Miria like that :P
King Lycan
2008-03-01, 23:41
yea i know :love:*imagines Flora in one of them*
stringer13
2008-03-01, 23:44
There outfit is cool. It was probaly based off Irene's.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-01, 23:56
Hehe, well if you go by my fic, they are. :D
yezhanquan
2008-03-01, 23:58
Hehe, well if you go by my fic, they are. :D
Clare has a good memory =X.
78 is out already >_<, god dammit i registered too late on that website
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 00:03
78 is out already >_<, god dammit i registered too late on that website
We know. We're just waiting for the English subs. (I'm also too lazy to search for the Chinese ones.)
yea i know :love:*imagines Flora in one of them*
I hope Galatea gets one too.... though the current nun outfit is sexy too!
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 00:09
I'll be happy if she regenerates her eyes.
We know. We're just waiting for the English subs. (I'm also too lazy to search for the Chinese ones.)
well i am not terribly familiar with the English sub groups, which group usually gets the scan first?
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 00:14
Is onemanga.com considered off-limits here?
GundamZZ
2008-03-02, 00:17
(In case anyone takes shots at me, that's how I survive the rest of the month before the next chapter.)
No picture, no truth.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3135/nopicturenotruthzo7.jpg
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 00:20
I'm not sure I understood what you mean. But anyway, can anyone state whether the fight is over this chapter, or continues next month?
I'm not sure I understood what you mean. But anyway, can anyone state whether the fight is over this chapter, or continues next month?
pretty sure the fight is over this month from the fourm talks i have been reading.
GundamZZ
2008-03-02, 01:00
I don't think it's too cheap for over. Clare tests her wind grinder.
When Agatha grabs Galatea and takes her as hostage, Clare cuts through them. Galatea looks unharmed but Agatha becomes noodles(as if her awakening form is not already).
ghazghkull
2008-03-02, 01:03
Search for it now!http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8609/87698798763214de7.jpg
Thats Agatha true awakened face
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8967/q349102934ay8.jpg
That's her true awakened face? O.O NO!!! IT CAN'T BE!!! T.T IT LOOKS LIKE FLORA!!!
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 01:21
Doesn't look anything like Flora to me. :twitch:
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 01:24
The general features bear a passing resemblance. But still, I won't mistake her for Flora. If anything, I think she resembles Riful in her awakened form.
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2008-03-02, 01:43
Its just the hair really.
I nice cross between Flore and Riful
GundamZZ
2008-03-02, 01:45
Am I the only one who thinks Agatha looks like Raphala. Must be the hair.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6011/hairtv3.jpg
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:00
Nice shot of Yuma in action. Yuma-punch fans, rejoice.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 02:16
That panel looks odd, but at least Yuma and Cynthia got some action :heh:
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:19
And the panel just confirmed to me that the fight ends in this chapter.
Bikerider
2008-03-02, 02:25
Cynthia got no skirt ??
That panel reminds me of the first AB fight in Pieta where Cynthia and Veronica did the finishing blow after Jean and Helen dissected the AB.
I noticed Clare and Miria get to wear the skimpy ones. Looks like Cynthia too :)
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 02:29
Your right, she doesn't have a skirt, lol.
Didn't notice that the first time, the art still seems off on that page, maybe it's just me.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:32
I guess Yuma's just shy to... "expose" herself?
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 02:37
How is it possible to get individual panels from the manga when the whole raw's are so difficult to locate?... grumble grumble....
going by this it looks like just those three, unless Tabitha is too ;)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2619/3031145b9bgm7.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3031145b9bgm7.jpg)
germanturkey
2008-03-02, 02:40
yeah, judging from that spoilered pic above, it seems the fight is over this chap. it better be like 30 pages long..
ghazghkull
2008-03-02, 02:43
Either way, they all look sexy in their own unique way :3
DOnt give up..
it's a Damned cool chapter
Damned Mira and Clare... another show off of their skills.
Bikerider
2008-03-02, 02:44
Tabitha wears a skirt too.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:45
Somehow, I've been spawning thoughts of Claymore girls fighting characters from Bleach/D.Gray-man. i put it down to massive boredom.
ghazghkull
2008-03-02, 02:47
Wait...how is it that people are getting pictures of these? Are these teaser images? Or the official images of the manga?
GundamZZ
2008-03-02, 02:49
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6472/noskirtwg6.jpg
it's becoming like manga criticque.
ghazghkull
2008-03-02, 02:52
GundamZZ while we all appreciate you providing us these images, perchance you could maybe explain to me how is it that you have these images, before the actual release date? I'm just curious is all :3
King Lycan
2008-03-02, 02:52
._. why are they wearing such strange but seductive clothes
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:54
The raws are already online, along with saome non-English translations.
ghazghkull
2008-03-02, 02:55
._. why are they wearing such strange but seductive clothes
Simple: that's the getup they chose to fit their style of combat, that and it follows the trend of how the Claymores dress in the series.
Plus, it works in all practicality. It doesn't hinder their movement in anyway. It's neither bulky or do the clothes flap all over the place so they have a full range of movement :3
GundamZZ
2008-03-02, 02:56
Unknown source
Internet
critique 2
scar goes to stealth mode
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4874/scar1ah9.jpghttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5118/scar2fm8.jpg
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 02:59
Haha. Bloopers.
Bluehorsy
2008-03-02, 03:10
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6472/noskirtwg6.jpg
it's becoming like manga criticque.
What's with the lines in the background running down through the building then continuing on the the rubble. Is it just me or is this panel a bit strange.
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 03:29
Maybe it's still raining? Not sure though. Although it does seem that yagi struggles to draw smaller versions of the claymores. The second claymore from the left has wittle bitty awms. They barely reach her waist. Come to think of it only a few of their arms seem long enough :D... But that stuff doesn't matter in the flow of the comic methinks. Claymore rules....
Boy does it suck to be able to only read english.... i'm definitely taking an asian foreign language when I get back to college.
LOL @ guy who said this chapter better be 30 pages... haha...
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 03:38
I think it is funny that even the english scanlation usually comes out before the actual release of the magazine. Although the chinese scans almost always come out even faster. They are so quick... How do they come out before the Japanese raws when it is originally published in Japan?
There is obviously some behind the back dealing going on. Yagi makes bank through underground means, and it's official release in Japan is just icing on the cake...
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 03:43
If by cake you mean crack cocaine then I understand completely. Jeez, how could I have missed the obvious like that... Manga. Drug Smuggling. Addictions. All this time...
Bluehorsy
2008-03-02, 04:35
Maybe it's still raining?
Yep it was rain.
Now its just waiting for the english trans.
the last scene of clare reminds me Teresa, and the ease she has trouncing an awakened being
Maybe its because of the shortened month, but Yagi-sensei forgotted the scar
zato_1one
2008-03-02, 05:05
For those who have Chinese scan.
page 1:
sid: look galk!, it's her! Aaaa
galk: that bastard woman always show up at the exact right time.
agasa: i will die? suddenly jump out and tell me someting foolish like that?
clare: to support that huge body.. that leg looking things... 8 is that correct?
agasa: aa??
clare: already destoried one that leaves 7... such a nice number.
page2
clare:anyways.. get down from there for me.
agasa:shiit
page3
fighting
page 4
agasa: impossible.. what is this?
clare: i can only tell you the name of this technique... fallen warrior from the war of the north.. no.8 warrior flora's fastest sword.
clare: wind cutter
page 5
page 6
fighting
page 7
miata/clarice: waaaa
galatea: what ? what is happening?
galatea:wa?
page 8
mistery voice: lost eyes and an arm? no.. eyes is from long ago
galatea: that voice... i have heard it before. right.. u are...
mistery voice: excuse me .. let's talk later.. something have to be dealt with first..
page 9
miria: achieve victory in one breath, the opponent is an awaken being there is nothing to worry about
page 10
deneve: hum!
helen: hehe
page 11
clarice: wa.. what? who are those people .. are they our comrads?
miata: very strong
clarice: eee.
miata: there are two very strong one among them
miata: even through everyone is very strong .. but..but those 2 are way stronger then the rest.. the strongest 2 among the 7
page 12
agasa: hm!
page 13
agasa: use my true form for this fight... against some idiots is nothing more then childs play
page 14
helen: what's wrong with her.. a true form like that
helen/deneve: what?
helen: deneve.. clare give me a hand.. i will use drill blade to blow her head off.
galatea: no wait.. don't be fooled by her
page 15
tabathia: her main body is below the stomach.. because it's always moveing there is no way to pin point it's location
helen: e
tabathia: even the true form talk is just a lie.. awaken one cover her self up with a fake body
and that body have heads and arms like a real one.. the true form is like a real human body weakpoint is the main body's hair connect to awaken body's hair.
page 16
miria: anything else to add or fix? "god eye" galatea
galatea: there is no fix location.. so one step ahead is just keep trying to cut the parts that connect the real head hair and awaken body's hair.. and i see if those members are a team tehn you must be the team leader. I ran away from the organization and i am not the same as you. plz save this city for me... "phanton" miria
miria: leave it to me
page 17
miria: won't let any one else die again... new... phatom
page 18
agasa: aaaa
miria: which way...
tabathia: upper body.. left chest
page 19
agasa:grrr
page 20
deneve: which way?
tabathia: right side.. between shoulder and arm
page 21
helen: wahahahahhaha
agasa: fuuucck
tabathia: the vital organ is at the human shape body.. no doubt that's the real body
page 22
clarice: so powerful.. make no.2 awaken being in a brief moment into....
agasa: damn it
page 23
agasa: don't move else i cut off this one's head
clarice: aaaa
miria: do you think hostige would work on us?
agasa: it wouldn't work on normal warrior.. but by the looks of it.. you are not normal warriors
agasa: and you just said it your self won't let anyone else die.. such thing... for someone to say such childish thing this would work again you.
page 24
agasa: don't move.. why don't this one care
clare: no use.. there is no escape for you
galatea: it's you.. from that time
page 25
clare: long time no see... so glade to see you again.. galatea
galatea: no.47 warrior... using the same move as before huh
clare: of course.. even the power decreased but the accurary greating increased.
agasa: i said stop!.. can't you hear me?
page 26
agasa: aa..aaa
galatea: increased accuracy huh... you cuted my hair
clare: i didn't notice any hair but if you don't want me to touch it that's fine
galatea: a.. alright thanks
agasa:don't joke... don't joke around you assss
clare: i said before.... you will die here
page 27
clare: flash step wind cutter!
Credit: wany1981 from onemanga
I love a team work fight (although 7 vs 1 isn't fair). :D
So we have no way to be sure how they individually stand against a #2 AB. Oh well... Things still look good for the most part.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 05:31
I think for the 7, there's no longer such a thing as "fighting alone". They sink, or swim, together.
Took Clare long enough to get that idea into that thick skull of hers.
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 05:45
We'll see how long it sticks. She was off by herself chatting with Riful a few chapters ago. This is really one of the few victories Clare has had where she was not thrown around and beaten up pretty good. She's been pretty good about being a team player when she needs to, but once someone mentions Priscilla I hope she will maintain her cool.
Just as planned :D
Except Cynthia, Deneve and Yuma got less spotlight than I expected. Good exposition of Tabitha's skill, though.
Ah, yes, Agatha really got trounced, I almost pity her. When Helen blasted through her, she was less serious than she ever was, it looked like fun child's play. Poor poor Agatha.
It puts all this talk about how number twos couldn't be defeated like that, back in chapt 77 thread, in perspective.
Clare to Galatea: I want to learn youki manipulation.
Galatea: well you saved my people, okay...
*months later*: Clare fighting the dimwitted Priscilla...
Priscilla: "Why can't I land a hit?"
*gets arm cut off*
Priscilla: 'No problem, it'll heal'
Priscilla: "Why isn't it healing???"
Clare: I've taken control of the youki in your body so that instead of healing you, it causes you more damage as you go along. Now die!
*Small scratches on Priscilla expand into gashes, leading to her arms and legs falling off, just as Clare comes in and ever so casually, takes her head*
-- SPLASH SCREEN: OWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --
... could be fun :P
Clare: I've taken control of the youki in your body so that instead of healing you, it causes you more damage as you go along. Now die!Reminds me of one of the first Slayers episodes :p (by the way, fuck yeah! Slayers S4)
About the way they defeated Agatha, it still makes me laugh, on reread, they use the dichotomy method. Cut the whole in half, see what half has the item you're looking for, cut that half, rinse and repeat. Less energy involved than the usual "cut everything into mincemeat" method.
Also, good go, Galatea isn't actually the strong prince in shining armor, she is the damsel in distress! :D
zato_1one
2008-03-02, 06:36
I think the most funny is that Agatha's real awakened form is actually her human body. She's pretty unique for having human body separate with awakened body. So, she is still the most sexy/hotness AB in my book. :heh:
I think that she can change form to anything she want to cover her main body. But she's unlucky to meet someone who specialize in sensing Yoki.
Waiting for English translation...
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 06:42
Looks like a victory worth having apples as a celebration. Helen and apples: the connection still baffles me.
Tempest35
2008-03-02, 07:28
Bout time I posted up. ^^
CYNTHIA!! :love: Hey Fenrir, maybe you should have Cynthia ask Clare to 'alter' her outfit a bit to fit the current look for her in your next fic - or at least allude to it. 'Girl Next Door' Cynthia indeed. :D *raaaawr* And Yuma looks damn cool now! She looks like the most 'armored' one and it doesn't come off as being nearly as bulky as the standard Claymore armors - props to Yagi-san for the art direction on that.
So Clare and Miria are the top two of the seven - big surprise there but at least we get confirmation from 'Bloody Red Eye' Miata.
and to Flar's Chinese Trans: at the end, did Clare really say 'Flash Step WindCutter'!? :twitch: Did she learn some speed techs from Miria or something? The possible amount of pwnage is....:eyespin:!!! *foams at the mouth*
and to Flar's Chinese Trans: at the end, did Clare really say 'Flash Step WindCutter'!? :twitch: Did she learn some speed techs from Miria or something? The possible amount of pwnage is....:eyespin:!!! *foams at the mouth*I have nothing to do with the translations :). Zato_1one posted one done by wany1981 on another forum.
Also, I will now stop using spoiler tags. The thread is called "Claymore 78", that's that.
Anyway, yes, both Miria and Clare seem to have more or less new techniques. Miria has the new phantom, Clare has her flash step thing. Frankly, Miria's move just looks cooler, she starts vibrating then woosh she's behind you and you're in two pieces. Would be very nice animated.
Some random thoughts, while I am at it:
Miata is super cute and finally understood how to remove hair from her face.
Miata says that all ghosts are very strong, even Yuma. Go Yuma.
Simultaneous attack of the ghosts destroyed more of the town than Agatha did. Hopefully the normal humans had pulled back.
Galatea had no idea what was going on. yet another blow for the ones wanting her to be able to sense the ghosts.
It's not yet said who are those two "stronger" Claymores withing the ghosts, even though it seems obvious it has to be Clare and Miria. Maybe Yagi will pull a fast one and make Helen and Deneve these two, or something like that.
Tabatha makes Galatea sensing feel redundant
I really was hoping for ghost 8 .. but after seeing the fight.. I agreed that tabatha makes her redundant a bit.
Still, great to see everyone have a piece of action. And Galatea probably will follow Irene's footstep as Clare's mentor. I think she gonna stay there :(
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 08:31
I feel that if Galatea wished to raise her power, she can do so. After all, while the 7 had been training hard, for the past year or so, she's been taking care of kids.
Of course, the choice lies with her. But, I do hope that she'll take care of Miata, at least.
It's not yet said who are those two "stronger" Claymores withing the ghosts, even though it seems obvious it has to be Clare and Miria. Maybe Yagi will pull a fast one and make Helen and Deneve these two, or something like that.
Its kinda like when the lights were going out in pieta and Priscilla said "one has disappeared...there are two very strong ones..." I'd assume too thats its Clare and Miria.
Another thought, thinking of Deneve's song, I'm actually thinking that she may not have any "flashy" skills, other than the two swords. She has bravery, wits, strength and toughness though. I think she'll be just a tough warrior who can slug it out with anyone.
Oh and maybe Miria will see Clarice's resemblance to Hilda and decide to take her under her wing :)
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 09:24
Deneve's speciality is to use her twin blades, with literally double the power of one blade. She's not too bad at it, and as mentioned, she can always be counted on.
Clarice and Hilda: I agree with ergon.
I really was hoping for ghost 8 .. but after seeing the fight.. I agreed that tabatha makes her redundant a bit.
Still, great to see everyone have a piece of action. And Galatea probably will follow Irene's footstep as Clare's mentor. I think she gonna stay there :(
But Galatea has the yoki alignment ability, although somewhat limited when compared to that northern AB that fought Flora's team. Clare only tried it once with Jean to bring her back, so she would be a good teacher to expand at least Clare's abilities in that area. Making an AB or AO miss instead of dodging their attacks has advantages...that's the ability Riful wants to have on her side.
Although Tabitha is the G7's "eye", the others can sense yoki but maybe not as great of a distance. Galatea has more experience (and could provide valuable intel about current Claymores or AB's) than even Miria, but is blind...so she still can be an asset. Whether or not she travels with the G7 or stays in Rabona is unknown. It would still be the safest place for Galatea to hide out and Rabona could become a home base for the G7.
The biggest question is Clarice and Miata. Will they be loose lips, be neutral, or join/help the G7 in some way? Would be troublesome if the Org had Luna monitoring and thats "if" she has even better abilities than Galatea or Tabitha to go undetected or be out-of-range.
dutchman
2008-03-02, 09:25
For those who have Chinese scan.
page 1:
sid: look galk!, it's her! Aaaa
galk: that bastard woman always show up at the exact right time.
agasa: i will die? suddenly jump out and tell me someting foolish like that?
clare: to support that huge body.. that leg looking things... 8 is that correct?
agasa: aa??
clare: already destoried one that leaves 7... such a nice number.
page2
clare:anyways.. get down from there for me.
agasa:shiit
page3
fighting
page 4
agasa: impossible.. what is this?
clare: i can only tell you the name of this technique... fallen warrior from the war of the north.. no.8 warrior flora's fastest sword.
clare: wind cutter
page 5
page 6
fighting
page 7
miata/clarice: waaaa
galatea: what ? what is happening?
galatea:wa?
page 8
mistery voice: lost eyes and an arm? no.. eyes is from long ago
galatea: that voice... i have heard it before. right.. u are...
mistery voice: excuse me .. let's talk later.. something have to be dealt with first..
page 9
miria: achieve victory in one breath, the opponent is an awaken being there is nothing to worry about
page 10
deneve: hum!
helen: hehe
page 11
clarice: wa.. what? who are those people .. are they our comrads?
miata: very strong
clarice: eee.
miata: there are two very strong one among them
miata: even through everyone is very strong .. but..but those 2 are way stronger then the rest.. the strongest 2 among the 7
page 12
agasa: hm!
page 13
agasa: use my true form for this fight... against some idiots is nothing more then childs play
page 14
helen: what's wrong with her.. a true form like that
helen/deneve: what?
helen: deneve.. clare give me a hand.. i will use drill blade to blow her head off.
galatea: no wait.. don't be fooled by her
page 15
tabathia: her main body is below the stomach.. because it's always moveing there is no way to pin point it's location
helen: e
tabathia: even the true form talk is just a lie.. awaken one cover her self up with a fake body
and that body have heads and arms like a real one.. the true form is like a real human body weakpoint is the main body's hair connect to awaken body's hair.
page 16
miria: anything else to add or fix? "god eye" galatea
galatea: there is no fix location.. so one step ahead is just keep trying to cut the parts that connect the real head hair and awaken body's hair.. and i see if those members are a team tehn you must be the team leader. I ran away from the organization and i am not the same as you. plz save this city for me... "phanton" miria
miria: leave it to me
page 17
miria: won't let any one else die again... new... phatom
page 18
agasa: aaaa
miria: which way...
tabathia: upper body.. left chest
page 19
agasa:grrr
page 20
deneve: which way?
tabathia: right side.. between shoulder and arm
page 21
helen: wahahahahhaha
agasa: fuuucck
tabathia: the vital organ is at the human shape body.. no doubt that's the real body
page 22
clarice: so powerful.. make no.2 awaken being in a brief moment into....
agasa: damn it
page 23
agasa: don't move else i cut off this one's head
clarice: aaaa
miria: do you think hostige would work on us?
agasa: it wouldn't work on normal warrior.. but by the looks of it.. you are not normal warriors
agasa: and you just said it your self won't let anyone else die.. such thing... for someone to say such childish thing this would work again you.
page 24
agasa: don't move.. why don't this one care
clare: no use.. there is no escape for you
galatea: it's you.. from that time
page 25
clare: long time no see... so glade to see you again.. galatea
galatea: no.47 warrior... using the same move as before huh
clare: of course.. even the power decreased but the accurary greating increased.
agasa: i said stop!.. can't you hear me?
page 26
agasa: aa..aaa
galatea: increased accuracy huh... you cuted my hair
clare: i didn't notice any hair but if you don't want me to touch it that's fine
galatea: a.. alright thanks
agasa:don't joke... don't joke around you assss
clare: i said before.... you will die here
page 27
clare: flash step wind cutter!
Credit: wany1981 from onemanga
I love a team work fight (although 7 vs 1 isn't fair). :D
Ah an excellent episode. Many thanks for the translation:bow:
Agatha was one hot A.B. to bad Clare 's opponents always end up looking being put tru an meat grinder.
It also looks that Galatea didn't lost her sense of humor, what a strong woman she is.
Clare is damned cool. Her control of wind cutter is simply out of this world.
Tabitha needs to close her eyes and stand still in order to concentrate to sense yoki.
So in this sense Galeatia is still superior in sensing Yoki than Tabitha since she can be in combat mode when sensing.
I would be great that Galeatia can teach Clare in Yoki Manipulation.
I see Clarice, Miata and Galeatia joining the ghost 7. Making it the perfect 10. A force to be reckon with.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 09:30
Did the count. This month, we have 31 pages of art, with 4 double page spreads....
(Sensei, we don't mean to complain. But, the average SJ author can easily pump out 50 pages in 4 weeks within a month. *Oliver Twist mode* Please, can we have some more?)
Negativedark
2008-03-02, 10:13
Am I the only one who thinks Agatha looks like Raphala. Must be the hair.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6011/hairtv3.jpg
Maybe they get an EXP bonus for that?
About Cynthia's outfit... Kinda reminds me of the Gym Shorts or swimsuits from Japanese PE classes. And Tabitha wears garters like Miria!
Even if Claris reports this to the Organization, would they belive it?
stringer13
2008-03-02, 10:17
It would be great for Riful too if Clare learned Yoki Manipulation.
My correction:
page 16
miria: anything else to add or fix? "god eye" galatea
galatea: there is no fix location.. in addition it's the hair that connect the real body to awaken body. to kill in one shot you should strike the head of the real body.
miria: Understood. if those members are a team then you would be the team leader.
galatea: I ran away from the organization and i am not the same as you. plz save this city for me... "phanton" miria
miria: leave it to me
Love the little joke between Galatea and Clare.
Next chapter should have more pages - talking senes are easier to draw I hope. :p Those 10 woman and 2 guys have lots of things to talk about.
Hmmm this chapter sounds good. Can't wait for the english scans!
I also agree with that guy that said Clarice resembles Hilda.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 11:42
We also have an official name for Galatea: "God Eye" Galatea is a pretty awesome name imo.
My feelings over the chapter:
Clare: When Flora said windcutter wins in precision, she wasn't kidding, thats pretty damn accurate. I don't think Clare has a flash-step or anything like that, training with Miria probably just made her extremely fast.
Miria: Can't get enough of her phantom, and it looks like she did a charging slash with it as well, completely cutting a large AB in half. Miata also indirectly confirms that Miria and Clare are immensely strong now.
Helen: Looks like she is having fun, fun faces as usual.
Deneve: Got pretty damn strong as well, she cutting right through the body is pretty impressive.
Tabitha: Wow, even if it requires her closing her eyes, her sensing appears to be close to Galatea's. Don't forget Galatea has her eyes "closed" now as well.
Cynthia: Love that swim-suit bottom she has on :P I'll try fitting it into the next chapter of my fic, just because it was requested :P
Yuma: Awesome, Miata's words say they are all strong, which means Yuma must be pretty impressive as well, love her outfit as well, fits a shy girl like her.
Team-work FTW!
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Agatha: Her armor was pretty crap at the end of the day :uhoh: Clare's windcutter couldn't cut Riful's ribbons, but can obliterate the armored portions of Agatha. Too bad for her hiding her "true" body was useless with Galatea and Tabitha present.
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Clarice: Wonder if she will realize these are the same people who saved her before?
Miata: Shows that her own ability is quite useful, even the seven ghosts can't hide their strength from her eyes. She's cute as a button with her hair back too.
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The banter between Galatea and Clare was pretty funny:
(My imagination)
Galatea: You cut my hair
Clare: (blushes) Umm, no I didn't.
Galatea: No, you seriously did, and after bragging about accuracy to.
Clare: (Cough)
This chapter had a whole lot of action in it, Yagi must have had a hard time with certain panels though, the 7's new outfits are alot more detailed then their old ones.
On a more saddening note: Looks like nothing short of the AOs and Priscilla can slow this bunch when they are together, the plot my force them to seperate in the future.
zato_1one
2008-03-02, 12:08
I expect the AB will also do the team work against G7 in the future too.
That will be fun. :D
Great chapter :). I was hoping the fight wouldn't last long (other mangakas should take lessons from Yagi-sensei - short fights can be and usually are better than long ones). Galatea was cool (the hair joke rocks), Miria was awesome, Clare owned and Clarice... Well Clarice was her usual self ("WTF? HUH ? WOW ! ").
Miata really has the ability to gauge claymore's power by smelling him (or doing sth else than sensing youki) as I speculated some time ago (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1389565&postcount=553).
On a more saddening note: Looks like nothing short of the AOs and Priscilla can slow this bunch when they are together, the plot my force them to seperate in the future.
Probably Agatha was weaker than Riguald or Dauph, she was slow and her attacks weren't powerful (she had wide range but only that). Cid almost killed her, she was lucky. Headshot and she would be dead :).
[...] Simultaneous attack of the ghosts destroyed more of the town than Agatha did. Hopefully the normal humans had pulled back. [...]
Nah, I don't think it was that bad. Anyway they couldn't do better unless Agatha willingly went with them to a desert (fights in DBZ come to my mind :) ). The moment she would be killed her huge body falling would make a big mess.
And I agree, Miata looks cute.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 12:34
For Clarice: I'd be just as confused as her if I didn't know what was going on :p
It is of course, possible that Agatha was weaker then Rigaldo (and Dauf) her "true" awakened form really wasn't that impressive at all, and as you stated, range was the only offensive thing she had going for her. (Where Dauf probably trumps her)
and hiding your weakness from attacks is no where near as good as completely avoiding (Rigaldo) or completely resisting (Dauf) attacks.
I don't Agatha is weaker than Rigaldo, It think there power is very close. The only reason I can think of Agatha getting the crap beat out of her so easily is beacause the time and the training that the 7 ghosts had. If they didn't train they would have gotten owned just like when they were fighting Rigaldo.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 12:54
Agatha is like a giant squishy target though. While Rigaldo was extremely difficult to hit (and still would be) and Dauf is a far harder target to injure (Helen's drill technique being the only reliable way to injure him)
By comparing Agatha to those two, she looks pretty sub-par, but who knows?
Well the size of Agatha does make an easy target, but what I really meant was if the 7 ghosts didn't train and learn those techniques they probably wouldn't have gotten out alive so easy.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 13:03
Well that's a given, training obviously made them stronger, but I was refering to Agatha's strength in comparison to Rigaldo/Dauf, or rather her abilities, which seemed less impressive.
Yeah her abilities weren't that great, she just reminded me of a weaker Riful.
Hi all, not new to suki or claymore, but new to the claymore discussion. chap 78 was fantastic, but it sucks that it'll be another month wait for another measly 30 pages.
I was kinda surprised that Miata made her 2 strong ones statement. Then i remembered that shes not measuring youki but using her animal like instincts. That was a nice touch. We've always seen how Clare is considered weak by her compatriots based solely on her number and amount of youki, so it's cool to see someone actually gage her true potential. I will of course go wtf, if we find later Miata is not referring to Clare.
I don't see why Galatea won't go with them, not like she can stay in Rabona anymore. Since she was willing to expose herself, it suggests she's not just gonna try to live by hiding.
More curious here about what will happen with Clarice and Miata, although the first interaction will be obvious. Helen notices it's the "colored hair" from before, and makes a snarky comment, and Miata trys to rip her apart. :D Deneve applies a spanking. I feel if anyone of the 7 will tame Miata, it's Deneve .
Did I mention that chap 78 was too awesome?
khryoleoz
2008-03-02, 13:23
Well, first we don't know that the reference to one of the strong ones is Clare though it is more acceptable to see that. And also, it's not like Maita was blind like Galatea so that she had to use her other senses to figure things out. Maybe she did, but what's obvious is with her own eyes, she was seeing who was performing what and how well. It wouldn't take a sixth sense for Maita to come to her conclusions, just eyes open wide.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 13:38
Considering Miata is the owner of a sixth sense, it seems likely that she used that to measure their strength rather then her eyes, considering most of the 7 Ghosts hadn't done much yet, and Miata used simliar words to describe Galatea before even seeing her first hand.
Cheese Ninja
2008-03-02, 13:48
True, just by looking you could tell that Clare was pretty strong. Except Miata specifically mentions yoki. I wonder how she uses her various senses to judge that, since pure yoki-sensing has been shown by Galatea to be either completely or mostly ineffective on the ghosts.
(Mentioned by others before) This also harkens back to Priscilla's observation about the two, much greater powers that were the last two conscious Claymores fighting in Pieta.
The strange thing is that before her most recent partial awakening, no one sensed Clare's yoki as anything but weak... Including Rigaldo, who judged the Claymores yoki and picked out the five leaders not very long before Priscilla made her comment. My personal theory is that awakening her limbs and coming back increased Clare's overall strength.
Not only Miata mentioned about youki but she also said that "Although everyone is very strong, those two are stronger by a large margin" (translation taken from: http://pastebin.com/m76b2b68a).
From what I saw every claymore from fab 7 owned Agatha, how come Miata concluded two of them were way stronger than the rest? Also why would Miata say something obvious out loud ? If their strength could be measured just by looking at the warriors? (when Miata said that they didn't even start to chop Agatha).
Before Miata's observation, what she saw was each of the 7 take down one of Agatha's legs. How does that help her differentiate who's strong.
I don't read chinese, but in the translation posted, Miata didn't say anything about youki? She just said 2 are stronger than the rest.
Ah Gooral got to it before I did.
Oh about Agatha's strength versus Rigaldo or Dauf, Rigaldo might be harder to gauge, but she could just do her fake body thing on Dauf, and use tentacle attacks to pierce vitals.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 14:05
If we go all the way back to Teresa's arc, we see that even normal humans respond to the use of Yoki (in the manga it appears humans can't see Yoki visibly, while in the anime we had all the colors of the rainbow)
So it is possible Yoki can be "felt" naturally, without Yoki-sensing, but would be incrediably hard to pic up unless used in large quantities, but Miata's enchanced sense could very well allow her to "feel" their true power, despite the supression.
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Also, to the above poster
I don't see how Agatha would target his vitals, considering all his vitals are covered by armor, and Dauf has superior range with his poles, he could very well just smash her to a pulp.
irvinethearcher
2008-03-02, 14:08
It's obvious the two strong ones are miria and clare. After the battle in pieta priscilla mentioned two lights much stronger than the other lights.
@ Fenrir ah good point, i said it wrong, not vitals, more like weak points, like how Galatea found his unarmored spots. Dauf's too stupid to try anything except frontal attacks, so using fake bodies would be effective against him. It just seems like Agatha on her big moving fortress should be able to form one huge pillar and ram it down Dauf's throat.
King Lycan
2008-03-02, 14:17
hmm so i mean all they talk about how power-ful Clare and Miria are i wonder how Deneve and Helen grown in power
irvinethearcher
2008-03-02, 14:27
The strange thing is that before her most recent partial awakening, no one sensed Clare's yoki as anything but weak... Including Rigaldo, who judged the Claymores yoki and picked out the five leaders not very long before Priscilla made her comment. My personal theory is that awakening her limbs and coming back increased Clare's overall strength.
It's obvious the two strong ones are miria and clare. After the battle in pieta priscilla mentioned two lights much stronger than the other lights. If i remember correctly, the most users in the forum came to the conclusion, based on deneve's statement about miria, that miria was stronger than clare before clare's 4limbed awakening and after that they both were even because of priscilla's statement about the lights. About the yoki: Yeah, clare's yoki was always refered to as a tiny one even if she wasn't weak with it. Now it seems to be reckognized as strong.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 14:27
I wouldn't sell Dauf short, his weak points are only viable targets when Dauf is caught of guard, Galatea was only able to hit these spots while she was manipulating Dauf.
Dauf vs Agatha would probably go nowhere fast for both of them though. Dauf is one of the toughest and strongest ABs we have seen in the series.
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 14:28
A whiff of the Teresa and Irene on Clare would be enough to put little blood eyed Miata into a fit I think. Both strong people she senses are Clare :D. Duff seems like he would be fairly hard to take out from any sort of attack but the gigadrill. Galatea could out think him and that might be his real downfall now that he knows a bit about youki sensing.
khryoleoz
2008-03-02, 14:35
Before Miata's observation, what she saw was each of the 7 take down one of Agatha's legs. How does that help her differentiate who's strong.
Maybe there were qualitative differences in the way each one took down the legs. I don't know. I'll see when the chapter comes out.
A whiff of the Teresa and Irene on Clare would be enough to put little blood eyed Miata into a fit I think. Both strong people she senses are Clare :D. Duff seems like he would be fairly hard to take out from any sort of attack but the gigadrill. Galatea could out think him and that might be his real downfall now that he knows a bit about youki sensing.
LOL. I think I'd be more willing to believe that the two Maita speak of are both Clare on whom she smelled Teresa and Irene.
Awakened
2008-03-02, 14:40
Did anyone notice, Clare talking just like Theresa? Remember when Theresa kill that #2 AB.
germanturkey
2008-03-02, 14:41
page six bottom row, right/middle frame. it could almost be considered a Yuma punch..
so yeah Clare has officially surpassed badass status. even galatea realizes it. its hard to tell where they'll go from here with the story though.
khryoleoz
2008-03-02, 14:43
Well, anyone who was so self-assured about her abilities and backs it up with an outcome in her favor can afford to raise the level of her trash-talk to that degree.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 14:47
Trash talk is a given when your badass, Teresa still did it way better though. :D
The impact to take out the legs looked exactly the same from what I saw.
chibamonster
2008-03-02, 14:51
I also like the idea of the 2 strong people Miata smells being Teresa and Irene from Clare XD. Is it just me or did Miata really put together cohesive plot progressing statements? Miata might be an orator some day if this continues.
I am a little concerned that this is like the 3 male AB's the claymores fought in pieta before the onslaught of Rigardo and his crew... I think there are tough times around the corner for our beloved heroes. Galatea looks strangely serene for having lost a limb and been impaled so many times. Although she certainly seemed very confused at first as she was unable to see or sense the ghosts. Must have been a shock to her to discover she had comrades from a previous generation still alive.
Awakened
2008-03-02, 14:55
I am a little concerned that this is like the 3 male AB's the claymores fought in pieta before the onslaught of Rigardo and his crew... I think there are tough times around the corner for our beloved heroes. Galatea looks strangely serene for having lost a limb and been impaled so many times. Although she certainly seemed very confused at first as she was unable to see or sense the ghosts. Must have been a shock to her to discover she had comrades from a previous generation still alive.
I was thinking the same thing, things are looking to good for the G7. The other 3powers wont stand by and let the newcommers get to arigant.:D
khryoleoz
2008-03-02, 14:59
I saw the Chinese scans on youtube. It's a shame that such a fine ass was shred to bits. But, it comes with the territory for being beautiful, that everybody hates you. It does look like someone was doing the Yuma punch. That's great. I can't get over Clare and Miria's outfits though. Damn, so hot! Cynthia's school swimsuit is pretty funny.
Blablabla
2008-03-02, 15:03
OMG Holly fucking badass awesomeness ! :eyespin:
Miria is sweetness and I was pretty amazed by Cynthia's abilities which seem as strong if not better than Galatea's.
Galatea and Clare's talk about hair cutting was very funny too.
It's been a long time I didn't enjoy a Claymore cap' like this one. I don't really care about the " gros bill powerup trip" common in shounen's stories even through I feel pretty sorry for Galatea who seemed now quite weak (and I still don't understand why she did not unleash her powers like she did against Duff).
khryoleoz
2008-03-02, 15:09
Did you mean to compare Cynthia or Tabitha with Galatea?
Blablabla
2008-03-02, 15:30
Perception : she saw excactly Agatha's secret and the way her true body was moving... that was pretty impressive (but she already shown her reading talents when Riful was kicking some newbie's ass).
And to top it all, she's cutter than Gal' :D
germanturkey
2008-03-02, 15:36
cuter yes, but prettier? nope..
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 15:46
It really comes down to personal preferenance, their both pretty high-scale lookers.
I don't think Galatea went all out because it might affect her Yoki-sensing/manipulation, she does need alot of concentration to pull either off.
Ok... did the english translations come out? Or are all of you guys able to read chinese/japanese text??
Cipher, there was a complete translation posted in this very forum two or three pages back.
So... Agatha's demise was rather quick...
I was hoping to see some conversations after the battle... dangit...
I'm definitely curious to see what Miata and Galatea do right after this and what actions the Ghost 7 will take.
The suspense is killing me!
I don't know but although I wished for this fight to finish in this chapter, it felt a bit too easy for the ghosts although perfectly logical given their teamwork.
I agree, that new phantom would look TOTALLY AWESOME in animation sequence.
Miata's statement was surprising and at last it was concluded that Galatea can't sense the ghosts which was also surprising.
Flash step? Bleach?! WTH? but that was so like Teresa slaughtering Rosemary to the point of disturbance. I didn't like that. Teresa is like no one!
* Can't hide his fanboyism.
The next chapter would be one huge development for the plot. Can't wait already! :D
It was easy because technically it was 8 on 1. If I look at the manga as a whole.. Agatha had the worst opposition out of every character in the manga. All other fights were 1v1, teresa was like 4v1, and battle of pieta... well that was like a team battle so...
Only other lopsided matches was one claymore vs. 10+ yoma (but yoma are crap anyways).
Anyone else notice that there are now less yoma and more awakened beings instead? I guess the story needed a little more depth like this, because if they keep using regular yomas... it would be too easy. Storyline would plunge haha..
O and galatea > whoever the other person was reading yoki. (looks wise, not sure about ability now)
^Dunno about that...Clarice and Miata fought a boatload of red shirt yomas when they were looking for Galatea. If you are talking about G7, then you have a valid point...Yagi is only showing them fighting AB's or running into Riful...who knows, the G7 might have killed a few yoma off screen/panel.
Ok... did the english translations come out? Or are all of you guys able to read chinese/japanese text??
There's one floating around, but it's a Chinese to English scanlation. Expect the Japanese to English scanlation to come out later (a day or 2?). Suppose it depends on which scanlation you want or trust to be accurate.
Well the fight was short, but it's not just cause of the teamwork. Remember that they're ghosts, basically running around killing stuff without being seen/sensed. Stealth mode makes killing ABs a lot easier. Also, Agatha got outclassed. She could probably take on a multitude of opponents (one wonders how she would have fared against the hunting party containing #3 and #5), but the opponents she faced today were too fast (movement speed and sword speed wise), can't be tracked, and have the ability to find her hidden body.
irvinethearcher
2008-03-02, 18:13
So... Agatha's demise was rather quick...
I was hoping to see some conversations after the battle... dangit...
I'm definitely curious to see what Miata and Galatea do right after this and what actions the Ghost 7 will take.
The suspense is killing me!
IMO Riful will come to Rabona and blackmail Galatea to destroy the city if she's not going to help her.
King Lycan
2008-03-02, 18:14
i dont think Riful would waste her time and energy for one claymore
i dont think Riful would waste her time and energy for one claymore
I bet she would for someone of Galatea's caliber.
irvinethearcher
2008-03-02, 18:26
i dont think Riful would waste her time and energy for one claymore
"She has found something interesting...", remember?
stringer13
2008-03-02, 18:27
Riful's desperate. Why do you think she went looking for minions for herself, and why would she try so hard to get Clare?
irvinethearcher
2008-03-02, 18:33
If i were Miria and the other Ghost i would force those black pills into galatea, knock her out, and run as hell with her away from rabona. Or else the rain will take on the colour red again.
stringer13
2008-03-02, 18:45
Why would they knowck her out? She is some what of an ally.
man now I am dying for 79, this is so painful >_<.
PS: yea I don't understand why would they knock Galatea out, shes barely alive as it is >_<
If i were Miria and the other Ghost i would force those black pills into galatea, knock her out, and run as hell with her away from rabona. Or else the rain will take on the colour red again.
And leaving all the action for Clare? Again?! :p
Nah. No more playing solo. The other fab-7 need to get some EXP points in order to LEVEL UP, too. ;)
Clare already got LEVEL UPs too much... going from dead last #47 to one strong enough to fight against a former #2 A.O..
Actually that makes me wonder... if Miria was a rather strong #6 before, how much stronger she is now? Maybe #2 material? Maybe even as strong as a #1?
Torri_fay_torren@hot
2008-03-02, 19:22
I don't think Galatea went all out because it might affect her Yoki-sensing/manipulation, she does need alot of concentration to pull either off.
That's an interesting thought. And as for some of you people thinking Tabitha is a better senser your not taking into account that Tabitha was right there. She was not so far away that nobody but Clare could sense her like Galatea was.
Negativedark
2008-03-02, 19:49
Let's not forget that the Seven Ghosts are a fine tuned unit with years of experience working together. Galetea went into this fight with with one team member bieng useless, and the other one trying to kill her. All things considred Galetea did amazingly well. As for Claire catching up to Teresea, Teresea was solo when she killed Rosemary.
yeah...there is no way Clare is anywhere close to Teresa in terms of power. Maybe it's my fanboyism coming into play, but I still feel like Clare has a long way to go before she can be close to Teresa.
Although the Agatha fight was rather impressive. I wonder if they can take Dauf out as easily now as they could Agatha.
yeah...there is no way Clare is anywhere close to Teresa in terms of power. Maybe it's my fanboyism coming into play, but I still feel like Clare has a long way to go before she can be close to Teresa.
Although the Agatha fight was rather impressive. I wonder if they can take Dauf out as easily now as they could Agatha.
Dauf alone should be pretty easy consider he is quite stupid without Riful, Galatea almost soloed him before Riful came out and helped him.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 20:15
That's because Galatea's ability will screw anyone that can't see through it, notice that Galatea doesn't fair so well against the injured Dauf, even going 80%
Dauf would be just as screwed as Agatha though, because of Helen.
page six bottom row, right/middle frame. it could almost be considered a Yuma punch..
That's not Yuma. Yuma has covered armpits. That's either Tabitha or Miria, most likely Tabitha because she has more shoulder plating. But yes, I thought it looked like a Yuma punch at first too.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 20:29
I just noticed, Helen can do that drill arm RLY fast. she uses it twice in this same fight, without a large gap in time that Jean required.
Helen can probably do it really fast because of her strechy arms.
That's because Galatea's ability will screw anyone that can't see through it, notice that Galatea doesn't fair so well against the injured Dauf, even going 80%
Dauf would be just as screwed as Agatha though, because of Helen.
I think it has more to do with Dauf's stupidity, like how he easily ignored Jean for the second time even after she screwed half of his hand off once Clare started attacking him.
With little tatic and teamwork Dauf should be a cake.
Awakened
2008-03-02, 20:58
G7 has a lot of fire-power, it will be hard for anyone to stand against them.
windcutter
mirage
drill sword
2 sword
sensing
teamwork
stringer13
2008-03-02, 21:16
I have known for a while that Helen could do it fast. During the fight between Miria and Clare we don't see her wind up her arm but right after the fight we see her move.
Isn't manga released in Japan by the volumes??? How the heck do they get these releases out chapter by chapter??!?! Someone explain how manga is released in the mainland please... I really have a hard time believing that we really have to wait month after month like this. :(
Did I mention the new sexy uniforms?? Well if I did... it deserves a second mention. :D
Now that I think about it, there should be some real high quality images out for the fab 7 soon, in their new uniforms of course... like the original image of miria that is in my sig, they should make some in similar fashion.
P.S. Dauf would get smoked by the fab 7... the only opposition they have are the abyssal ones.... Everyone else are just pawns.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 21:56
The Chapters are released monthly, and then the full Volume is released when there are enough chapters to make one.
So yes, we have to wait month by month for a Chapter of Claymore.
Personally, to keep the quality level of the series high, I like its release the way it is, if we were to be dragged down to lower levels of story and art, I would cry.
The Chapters are released monthly, and then the full Volume is released when there are enough chapters to make one.
So yes, we have to wait month by month for a Chapter of Claymore.
Personally, to keep the quality level of the series high, I like its release the way it is, if we were to be dragged down to lower levels of story and art, I would cry.
what about bi-weekly? At this rate, by the time claymore is finished, I'll be like in early to mid thirties! :twitch:
that's why I love/hate berserk too, it's soooo incredibly slow to be released. And I heard berserk is gonna go on for another 10 - 15 years too
if only this manga could be bi monthly with the quality lvl just as high >_<!!
just read the english translation of this chapter and WOW, teamwork 101 is in effect! Fun to see clare still using the quicksword but lower dmg higher accuracy and have the windcutter as well. even got a quick glimpse of miria's enchanted phantom speed too :) love how tabitha is now the team's "eye" and seems to do a really good job at it but kinda iffy about it since she needs to concentrated so much, might need a defensive person to shield her while she's sensing others. great chapter, i really want to learn about the aftermath of this now! Also interesting to note that galatea is now considered "god's eye". i wonder whats the sensing lvl difference between galatea and tabitha now.
zato_1one
2008-03-02, 22:09
Clare is still no match for Teresa. Or else Miata wouldn't say that there are "two" very strong. She should say that there is one UBER HAXING POWAA! :D
I forgot to answer that Clare didn't say "flash step wind cutter!" It was a comment in the background.
derelict88
2008-03-02, 22:24
I want to touch on something in the forthcoming issue. Something that might play a bigger roll in the future... The city.
After this battle what will the city feel about the Claymores? Will they continue to shun them or will they be more open to the Claymores in the future.
Looking at things I do feel the captain saw with his own eyes that there are factions amongst the Claymore especially after witnessing the battle between Claymores (Miata vs Galatea).
I do hope the captain is alive and kicking and on Clare's side at lease.
I think the City-state will make an impact in the overall scheme of things if they were to pick sides. One can look at it as some kind of a safe house or a neutral zone.
In the Claymore's favour
1) The denizens of the city did see that the Claymores were there to help rid the city of the bad lady.
2) The bishop knows the Claymore are people that help rid the world of the yoma
3) The captain of the guards know Claymores to be good.
things not in favour of the Claymores are
1) It might be misconstrued that Agatha was a by play of the Claymores to enter the city.
2) The destruction of part of their city makes people miff.
Cant think of any other point. Lol
derelict88
2008-03-02, 22:33
if only this manga could be bi monthly with the quality lvl just as high >_<!!
Bi monthly means ONCE every two months... Why do you ask for that?!
Not happy with a monthly instalment?! Lol!!
Or did you mean to say every FORTNIGHT as in every 14 days once. That would make two issues in a month.
what about bi-weekly? At this rate, by the time claymore is finished, I'll be like in early to mid thirties! :twitch:
that's why I love/hate berserk too, it's soooo incredibly slow to be released. And I heard berserk is gonna go on for another 10 - 15 years too
Well the mag Claymore is on(Jump Square I think) is a monthly mag so =/. And I don't see Claymore switches to a weekly Jump mag =(.
The Chapters are released monthly, and then the full Volume is released when there are enough chapters to make one.
So yes, we have to wait month by month for a Chapter of Claymore.
Personally, to keep the quality level of the series high, I like its release the way it is, if we were to be dragged down to lower levels of story and art, I would cry.
How are chapters "officially" released (like bought)? Do they sell 30 page packets at the newstands? As far as I know only volumes can be bought at the bookstores... So how do people get a hold of chapters in the first place...
Yah the guy who said bi-monthly... get back on that pipe...:p
Edit: I just read that chapters are released in a mag... so 30 pages of claymore in a mag make sense to me in how people obtain it... nvm..
derelict88
2008-03-02, 22:42
Not to sure how it really look but I have seen the Jump mega books. It is thick with various comics compile inside. Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe Claymore covers less than 2% of the monthly Jump issue.
http://jumpsq.shueisha.co.jp/index.html <-- Jump Square
I want to touch on something in the forthcoming issue. Something that might play a bigger roll in the future... The city.
After this battle what will the city feel about the Claymores? Will they continue to shun them or will they be more open to the Claymores in the future.
Looking at things I do feel the captain saw with his own eyes that there are factions amongst the Claymore especially after witnessing the battle between Claymores (Miata vs Galatea).
I do hope the captain is alive and kicking and on Clare's side at lease.
I think the City-state will make an impact in the overall scheme of things if they were to pick sides. One can look at it as some kind of a safe house or a neutral zone.
In the Claymore's favour
1) The denizens of the city did see that the Claymores were there to help rid the city of the bad lady.
2) The bishop knows the Claymore are people that help rid the world of the yoma
3) The captain of the guards know Claymores to be good.
things not in favour of the Claymores are
1) It might be misconstrued that Agatha was a by play of the Claymores to enter the city.
2) The destruction of part of their city makes people miff.
Cant think of any other point. Lol
^I've been speculating that for ages and there has been more tolerance in Rabona. That being said, after witnessing Clarice and Miata disregarding the lives of humans to complete their assigned mission (to kill Galatea), Galk and Sid won't be so trusting of "most Claymores" that happen to come into the city. There would have to be some kind of list of which Claymore is trusted/ok or the city will become ashes with all the fighting...lol.
Yagi certainly setup that possibility in the beginning of Rabona being some kind of safe haven from Claymore and Yoma alike. Clare certainly changed some minds in the city back then and it appears Galatea was a popular "nun" among the children. Don't know what the future holds in store. Maybe the Bishop and Priests will show up in the next chapter to make a decision/change the laws.
Would be funny if the ex-Claymores setup a rival service and piss off the Org....lol...j/k
what I'm hoping is that the guard will let Galatea stay in city walls, she could be the claymore that never leaves we all know she's strong enough to take care of yoma and most ABs. if they did that they would have to go to the org for at lest 50 years and she also looks cute as a nun
Bi monthly means ONCE every two months... Why do you ask for that?!
Not happy with a monthly instalment?! Lol!!
Or did you mean to say every FORTNIGHT as in every 14 days once. That would make two issues in a month.
i ment fornight! I'm was drinking today leave me alone!!!!! :upset:
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 23:08
Well, Jump Square is a monthly, so we'll have to live with it. Anyone noticed my Oliver Twist post earlier?
Anyway, the usual drill: wait for April. Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see what that level 4 is up to next week, in D.Gray-man.
Not to sure how it really look but I have seen the Jump mega books. It is thick with various comics compile inside. Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe Claymore covers less than 2% of the monthly Jump issue.
http://jumpsq.shueisha.co.jp/index.html <-- Jump Square
yea I think Jump Square is about 300 pages per issue?
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 23:14
Well Yagi does all the artwork/storyboard himself, so it kinda has to be monthly.
He doesn't have tons of assistants like most weekly manga artists do.
The Berserk manga has great artwork too, but I believe that guy has helpers, he really should do it bi-weekly.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 23:16
Well Yagi does all the artwork/storyboard himself, so it kinda has to be monthly.
He doesn't have tons of assistants like most weekly manga artists do.
The Berserk manga has great artwork too, but I believe that guy has helpers, he really should do it bi-weekly.
Well, having assistants isn't bad or shameful. In fact, if your assistants manage to make it big after leaving your service, I think it's something to be proud of. You never know if an assistant can progress to become a mangaka once given some help.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 23:19
He either can't find anyone who suits his needs, or he wants to personally do Claymore with his own hand.
Besides, I bet good assistants cost money. ;)
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 23:20
Hence, we have to be quiet and take the chapters once a month.
Hence, we have to be quiet and take the chapters once a month.
the only thing that keeps me sane during the time is reading other people's thoughts on what is going to happen/what has happened :eyespin:
but I've already read most of the threads in the claymore forum....what will I do now! :upset:
germanturkey
2008-03-02, 23:37
^^ yeah, same here. its great that we get 1000+ posts every month discussing chapters. if it were stagnant here, i'd go crazy or drop the series for a while then read a chunk and repeat.
yezhanquan
2008-03-02, 23:39
That's what the weekly is for. Seriously, you need a good weekly to help you survive the rest of the month. Take it from a manga reader who so happens to like so many monthly series that if I don't read D.Gray or Bleach, I'll rather sleep for a month if it's possible.
Fenrir_valindri
2008-03-02, 23:40
Yeah, or obessively discuss the most pointless things over and over again in this forum.
If you have read through the entire Stat/power/Theories thread, I'm impressed :heh:
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