The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Furyofthewolves]

man... I give up on catching up with the backlog... since i don't even remember where i left off...

Go wake up your inner fangirl then!

I think you'd need the opinion of more than just RmX's inner fangirl

[DJ_RockmanX]

Think of it this way: if Haruki met this alternate Yuuki, he would immediately forget about Mitsuuru and tranfer the "manly man" project to him. :D

Hmm...That reminds me of when Alternate Mikuru decked Kyon.

Alternate Mitsuru will be a bit manlier then?

[CanadaAotS]

So, is Yuuki going to be shy like Yuki in Book 4?

*Trying to get people on-topic*

I can answer that question with some koma's :)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4949/004disappearanceofharukma0.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharukma0.jpg)
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/810/004disappearanceofharuksv4.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharuksv4.jpg)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9468/004disappearanceofharukpi0.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharukpi0.jpg)

[kaura117]

man... I give up on catching up with the backlog... since i don't even remember where i left off...



I think you'd need the opinion of more than just RmX's inner fangirl

Hey, it's as good a starting point as any.

[Ithekro]

I use to try to read quietly in high school (though I know of no fangirls), so it is a possible type. Since it would be Kyon seeming to come on to Yuuki, the mixed messages and shyness would definately kick in. I don't know if the Yuki way of doing it would work correctly, but I don't know how easy it is to melt Kyonko's heart (or the fangirls like it does with the fanboys.)

First time I saw a picture of the new Yuki, the first thought was "That's so wrong", then had to ask "But way do I want her (wtih Kyon) now?" It was the small things too.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Man... when she wake up, you better hope she doesn't press domestic abuse charges to your inner police... >_>

Don't worry about that. Those two are actually pretty cool with each other.

But...

Hey, it's as good a starting point as any.

What are you implying by this?

[CanadaAotS]

man... I give up on catching up with the backlog... since i don't even remember where i left off...


This is why I keep the animesuki thread open in one of my lolifox tabs at all times. haha.

[Forceflow]

Lets get back to it then. Calling for photoshop artists, my MSPaint skills are woefully inadequate. Probably leave the shopping to you guys.

The following set is a set of 4koma in chinese. Might have been some kind of contest since the final bracket was left empty for the writer/drawer to fill in.



Heres the original. Wonder if anyone will come up with anything...
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/271/12050650122652a61173dm3di0.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12050650122652a61173dm3di0.jpg)

[1st Frame]:
Wait... Haruki!
Where are you taking me to...

[2nd Frame]:
So Basically you want to set up a new club?

Thats right!

And this concerns me, how?

[3rd frame]:
Help me set up the club!

*small text*: What say you?

1)
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This one is just crack. :heh:

2)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5264/12052066125322ab7ad3wp2lv6.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12052066125322ab7ad3wp2lv6.jpg)

[4th Frame]:
You're an idiot, aren't you?

3)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6505/12050673321512a7ec0fga3oo0.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12050673321512a7ec0fga3oo0.jpg)

[4th Frame]:
Like it concerns me.
(scary face)

4)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7756/12052330549172ae8851be4qv0.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12052330549172ae8851be4qv0.jpg)
[4th Frame]:
You need to cool your head off first...


Theres more, post the rest later.

[DJ_RockmanX]

I use to try to read quietly in high school (though I know of no fangirls), so it is a possible type. Since it would be Kyon seeming to come on to Yuuki, the mixed messages and shyness would definitely kick in. I don't know if the Yuki way of doing it would work correctly, but I don't know how easy it is to melt Kyonko's heart (or the fangirls like it does with the fanboys.)

Fangirls were secretly watching you. They just never let on.

First time I saw a picture of the new Yuki, the first thought was "That's so wrong", then had to ask "But way do I want her (wtih Kyon) now?" It was the small things too.

I think the same way.

[CanadaAotS]

....
I.... I can't get the thought of Itsuko "jiggling" out of my mind now.

Oh god why.

In other news, I've finally managed to organize my no seitenkan folder, going to do one last duplicate sweep then it'll be ready to go.
I plan on torrenting it because 280 mb is a bit big to be splitting up on some file sharing site.
If you can't torrent, I do have the version 1 of my image pack posted on mediafire.

That's here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jo2bdimmyn1 - Suzumiya no Seitenkan.part1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?tsmkkvy9mxz - Suzumiya no Seitenkan.part2.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?letcbhyjxwj - Suzumiya no Seitenkan.part3.rar

Torrent is here:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1281775

EDIT: Can you put this up on the front page RmX?
EDIT2: Yay! My first leecher! :)

RmX Can this go up on front page? :)
1600+ sorted images in a torrent. the mediafire links are for the first version (unsorted 1400 images)

Lets get back to it then. Calling for photoshop artists, my MSPaint skills are woefully inadequate. Probably leave the shopping to you guys.

The following set is a set of 4koma in chinese. Might have been some kind of contest since the final bracket was left empty for the writer/drawer to fill in.


snip


Theres more, post the rest later.

I got about 13 of them. lol.

[Kagedanji]

I can answer that question with some koma's :)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4949/004disappearanceofharukma0.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharukma0.jpg)
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/810/004disappearanceofharuksv4.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharuksv4.jpg)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9468/004disappearanceofharukpi0.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=004disappearanceofharukpi0.jpg)

My opinions = loosely based off of that.

[Forceflow]

I got about 13 of them. lol.

Me too lol. Some are just pure crack and theres this one that is just a wall of text... Not looking forward to that one. :heh:

[CanadaAotS]

My opinions = loosely based off of that.

I mean, just look at that. Shy bookish Yuuki has male moe factor. haha.

Yes I know, I'm broke, inner fangirl etc.

[DJ_RockmanX]

RmX Can this go up on front page? :)
1600+ sorted images in a torrent. the mediafire links are for the first version (unsorted 1400 images)

Bring that over to the image thread. Tell the mods it's ready for the most part in a PM or something.

[Kagedanji]

When I was arguing with whether Nagato should be female in this or not 100+ pages back, I was thinking that they'd still have the low-voiced, narrow-eyed nagato being emotional.

But fixing his face and voice makes it more believable, so he can stay male. Just needs a makeover.

[Ithekro]

Was there a "final" choice on Nagato-san's voice actor? Would it be a man or a woman playing a man (some do a very good job at it for teenaged men).

I still think Haruki needs to be played by Ono Daisuki. Just because I think he can do it without sounding like Itsuki (plus Hosaka voice works). Kyonko needs to be Minorin (Chiaki voice upped by five years) because Aya's voice seems wrong for some reason. Maybe because when people do the Kyonko videos they use Aya's Haruhi voice whcih sounds more pissed off or playful (depending on tone) than snarky.

[beanbrew]

When I was arguing with whether Nagato should be female in this or not 100+ pages back, I was thinking that they'd still have the low-voiced, narrow-eyed nagato being emotional.

But fixing his face and voice makes it more believable, so he can stay male. Just needs a makeover.

But it's the same person. His face and voice shouldn't change.

Woo!!! I got us on-topic!!!:p

[DJ_RockmanX]

Woo!!! I got us on-topic!!!:p

I salute you for achieving the near impossible.

But it's the same person. His face and voice shouldn't change.

His demeanor would though. And that's why he's great fangirl fodder.

Was there a "final" choice on Nagato-san's voice actor? Would it be a man or a woman playing a man (some do a very good job at it for teenaged men).

Needs to be a guy who can play both emotionless and incredibly timid/shy types.

I still think Haruki needs to be played by Ono Daisuki. Just because I think he can do it without sounding like Itsuki (plus Hosaka voice works). Kyonko needs to be Minorin (Chiaki voice upped by five years) because Aya's voice seems wrong for some reason. Maybe because when people do the Kyonko videos they use Aya's Haruhi voice whcih sounds more pissed off or playful (depending on tone) than snarky.

- I wanna see Ono Daisuke in a more hot blooded role first before considering him for the Haruki character.

- Minorin for Kyonko is my personal pick as well.

[Ithekro]

Well there is always Ryōtarō Okiayu (Akio from Clannad) if Ono doesn't work out. We've seen he can do GAR and yet still be funny. If you can't get Katsuyuki Konishi (Kamina), though I'd stay away from being too obvious with the GL parody in using him as Haruki.

(Note: In looking up these two voice actors, I found an odd link, Transformers:Superlink. The former was Rodimus (Convoy), the later was Optimus (Convoy))

[kaura117]

Well there is always Ryōtarō Okiayu (Akio from Clannad) if Ono doesn't work out. We've seen he can do GAR and yet still be funny. If you can't get Katsuyuki Konishi (Kamina), though I'd stay away from being too obvious with the GL parody in using him as Haruki.

(Note: In looking up these two voice actors, I found an odd link, Transformers:Superlink. The former was Rodimus (Convoy), the later was Optimus (Convoy))

Nah. The only guy that can do Haruki justice isn't Kamina's VA, but Simon's.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Nah. The only guy that can do Haruki justice isn't Kamina's VA, but Simon's.

Too high-pitched, though.

Akio's voice would work really well.

[kaura117]

Too high-pitched, though.

Akio's voice would work really well.

Eh? I didn't think of Adult!Simon's voice as particularly high-pitched.

[Kagedanji]

Someone didn't watch the entire show?!

Where?!

[Ithekro]

Tetsuya Kakihara (Simon) is also Fujioka (not Bear) in Minami-ke. (now I see why he wants Kana (Marina Inoue) who played Yoko.)

[Kagedanji]

Tetsuya Kakihara (Simon) is also Fujioka (not Bear) in Minami-ke.

Lol.

"I like's the name. I don't like's you."

[S_Reed]

Nah. The only guy that can do Haruki justice isn't Kamina's VA, but Simon's.

Well, if you think about it in terms of the Seitenkan storyline, shouldn't the one who played Kamina be Haruki, and young Simon be Mitsuru? It would be plenty of lulz when Haruki says he's going to turn Mitsuru into a man among man.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Eh? I didn't think of Adult!Simon's voice as particularly high-pitched.

It was higher pitched than Akio or Kamina. And it seems a lot calmer, doesn't have the fuck-with-me-and-you-die quality.

Someone didn't watch the entire show?!

Where?!

...I did watch the whole of Gurren Lagann.

Tetsuya Kakihara (Simon) is also Fujioka (not Bear) in Minami-ke.

...Which is exactly why I think someone else should voice Haruki.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Well, if you think about it in terms of the Seitenkan storyline, shouldn't the one who played Kamina be Haruki, and young Simon be Mitsuru? It would be plenty of lulz when Haruki says he's going to turn Mitsuru into a man among man.

Mitsuru needs to be played by a girl. We must play the shota-trap element to the fullest.

[kaura117]

It was higher pitched than Akio or Kamina. And it seems a lot calmer, doesn't have the fuck-with-me-and-you-die quality.

Oh, huh, true.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Mitsuru needs to be played by a girl. We must play the shota-trap element to the fullest.

Akiko Yajima.

[Forceflow]

Mitsuru needs to be played by a girl. We must play the shota-trap element to the fullest.

Then we should use Morinaga Rika (mako-chan) for Mitsuuru. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Too far. TOO FAR. ONE INCH OF MANLINESS DAMMIT, give us that much?

Simon's VA ftw.

I find it funny that Simon is probably the only 14-year-old male in anime to be voiced by a guy.

Shows you the vocal range of his VA, yeah?

Then we should use Morinaga Rika (mako-chan) for Mitsuuru. :heh:

No. Akiko Yajima, please. I don't want to associate anything we do with Mako-cakes, ever.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Then we should use Morinaga Rika (mako-chan) for Mitsuuru. :heh:

We want weakness, not brokenness.

[Kagedanji]

We want Mitsuruu to be unmanly.

Not too feminine.

AND NOT GAY.

Simon's VA will do.

EDIT: Also, doesn't shota, especially shota of Mitsuuru's level, only work for junior high kids and below? Mitsuru couldn't have been the same person for over 15 years. He needs some sort of maturity. If Kyon and Itsuko act like they do, Mitsuru acting like how we're forcing him to do is way off the damn margin.

[S_Reed]

No. Akiko Yajima, please. I don't want to associate anything we do with Mako-cakes, ever.

*breaks at the mention of Mako-cakes*

Well, personal preferences aside (Simon's VA, dammit!), Yajima is a decent choice, considering what I've heard in Clannad.

*picks up broken pieces, reconfiguring data, defragmenting...*

[Kaisos Erranon]

*breaks at the mention of Mako-cakes*

Well, personal preferences aside (Simon's VA, dammit!), Yajima is a decent choice, considering what I've heard in Clannad.

*picks up broken pieces, reconfiguring data, defragmenting...*

No, Yajima is a voice actress. She voices Shin-chan (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Shin_Chan_14.jpg), among others.

We want Mitsuruu to be unmanly.

Not too feminine.

AND NOT GAY.

Simon's VA will do.

Well, Simon works for everything except the NOT GAY part.

Since the relationship between Simon and Kamina got kind of um at some points.

[kaura117]

We want Mitsuruu to be unmanly.

Not too feminine.

AND NOT GAY.

Simon's VA will do.

EDIT: Also, doesn't shota, especially shota of Mitsuuru's level, only work for junior high kids and below? Mitsuru couldn't have been the same person for over 15 years. He needs some sort of maturity. If Kyon and Itsuko act like they do, Mitsuru acting like how we're forcing him to do is way off the damn margin.

The kid, if we take his character as normal and without the time traveling biz, would've grown up to be a short fifteen year old with the looks of somebody still in his late preteens. Either he turns into a Napoleonic bastard, raging against the world for the wrong it has committed against him, or he ends up a shy, easily bullied, but oft-mothered little darling. So, assuming we use the latter character setup, a shota character still fits.

[Kagedanji]

Well, Simon works for everything except the NOT GAY part.

Since the relationship between Simon and Kamina got kind of um at some points.

Stop mixing the character with the voice. We don't care about the history of the character, we care about the sound of the voice.

[S_Reed]

Well, Simon works for everything except the NOT GAY part.

Since the relationship between Simon and Kamina got kind of um at some points.

...

I think you're just being too sensitive here.

[kaura117]

...

I think you're just being too sensitive here.

Agreed. There's no homosexual subtext to their relationship, unless you're really looking.

[Kaisos Erranon]

The kid, if we take his character as normal and without the time traveling biz, would've grown up to be a short fifteen year old with the looks of somebody still in his late preteens. Either he turns into a Napoleonic bastard, raging against the world for the wrong it has committed against him, or he ends up a shy, easily bullied, but oft-mothered little darling. So, assuming we use the latter character setup, a shota character still fits.

That, and he was severely broken before he was sent back in time. You don't think that the stringent mental conditioning did nothing to his psyche, did you?

This is why Mikuru is so clumsy and prone to daydreaming in the original. They literally gave her brain damage in order to keep her from revealing too much.

Agreed. There's no homosexual subtext to their relationship, unless you're really looking.

It's mostly his reaction to Kamina's death that gets me.

Maybe I am looking for it, but Simon seemed to worship Kamina a bit too much...

[DJ_RockmanX]

I still will strongly disagree with using a voice like pre-timeskip Simon for Mitsuru. It's just not shota enough.

That, and he was severely broken before he was sent back in time. You don't think that the stringent mental conditioning did nothing to his psyche, did you?

This is why Mikuru is so clumsy and prone to daydreaming in the original. They literally gave her brain damage in order to keep her from revealing too much.

I think your looking into that way too much. :heh:

[Ithekro]

Remember that Morinaga Rika was also Souseiseki (the 'boku' twin doll from Rozen Maiden)

Akiko Yajima for what reason? I can't think of a role that fits Mitsuuru.

If you want lulz, Yui Horie (Mizuho Miyanokōji, Ayu Tsukimiya, Hanyuu, and many others) for Mitsuuru.

If you want slightly manly Mitsuuru (how?), maybe Nana Mizuki (who does reverse-trap Toma on Minami-ke to the disbelief of many who know her as Fate from Nanoha).

[CanadaAotS]

I find it funny that Simon is probably the only 14-year-old male in anime to be voiced by a guy.

Shows you the vocal range of his VA, yeah?


What about <Oiishi voice>Maebara Keiichi-san</Oiishi>? haha.
Pretty sure he was about 14 or so and also pretty sure he was VA'd by a guy.

EDIT: Do you know Oyashiro-sama? Yes Hinamizawa.
I kill you you kill me, No Hinamizawa!

Greatest J-Rap ever.

[Kagedanji]

The kid, if we take his character as normal and without the time traveling biz, would've grown up to be a short fifteen year old with the looks of somebody still in his late preteens. Either he turns into a Napoleonic bastard, raging against the world for the wrong it has committed against him, or he ends up a shy, easily bullied, but oft-mothered little darling. So, assuming we use the latter character setup, a shota character still fits.

He just sounds like the kind of person who would've died at age 13 from being shot by bullies who were annoyed at how much of a queer he was.

If he's an 8 year old girl at age 15, what was he earlier? It worked for Mikuru because she's female, and it's more natural. Now that I think about it, Mikuru is actually more mature than our shota.

[kaura117]

That, and he was severely broken before he was sent back in time. You don't think that the stringent mental conditioning did nothing to his psyche, did you?

This is why Mikuru is so clumsy and prone to daydreaming in the original. They literally gave her brain damage in order to keep her from revealing too much.

...what? :twitch: No, hell no. Unless you want to write angst!fic, that doesn't work. As far as I can tell, she's a junior operative given a mission way beyond what she thinks is her level of ability and experience- and in a situation where the highest form of tech is probably not even half as intuitive and functional as what she's used to. That is where the clumsiness comes from- that and a bit of homesickness.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I think your looking into that way too much. :heh:

Eh, just another one of my pet theories.

...what? :twitch: No, hell no. Unless you want to write angst!fic, that doesn't work. As far as I can tell, she's a junior operative given a mission way beyond what she thinks is her level of ability and experience- and in a situation where the highest form of tech is probably not even half as intuitive and functional as what she's used to. That is where the clumsiness comes from- that and a bit of homesickness.

I always thought that she was some girl they grabbed off the street, (presumably at the orders of Adult Mikuru) gave her no training other than a bit of information and said mental conditioning, and sent her on her merry way back in time.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Now that I think about it, Mikuru is actually more mature than our shota.

Our shota's plenty mature if you look in the right places.

[kaura117]

He just sounds like the kind of person who would've died at age 13 from being shot by bullies who were annoyed at how much of a queer he was.

If he's an 8 year old girl at age 15, what was he earlier? It worked for Mikuru because she's female, and it's more natural. Now that I think about it, Mikuru is actually more mature than our shota.

With Japan's gun laws?

And Mistuuru isn't queer so much as the puberty fairy forgot about him for a few years. That, and Haruki's possibly even more forceful than Haruhi, and with the extra muscle mass to back him up.

And, besides, Mitsuuru Big makes up for Mitsuuru Small. Manly and bishie- can you really imagine him as anything short of outrageously popular with the hypothetical girls of the time travel agency? =D

[Kagedanji]

Submitting to the outfits without any defensive say at all? Crawling to a girl half his size he doesn't know for help during those moments?

We're insulting males with the creation of this abomination.

[JDGBOLT]

Sigh, I go and work on the Visual Novel project, I come back and I have 20 pages to read through... :heh:

JDGBOLT

[kaura117]

Eh, just another one of my pet theories.



I always thought that she was some girl they grabbed off the street, (presumably at the orders of Adult Mikuru) gave her no training other than a bit of information and said mental conditioning, and sent her on her merry way back in time.

Doesn't fit. She clearly knows too much, even during her youth.

[kaura117]

Submitting to the outfits without any defensive say at all? Crawling to a girl half his size he doesn't know for help during those moments?

We're insulting males with the creation of this abomination.

Given that Kyonko's the only one out of the Brigade willing to stand up to Haruki, if only occasionally...

[Kagedanji]

I thought of Mitsuru as a loser with a manly essence 200 miles within him, not a girl with testes.

[CatzCradle]

Hey, does anyone know what they'r saying in English? Pretty please? ;)

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[Kaisos Erranon]

Doesn't fit. She clearly knows too much, even during her youth.

Time travel and how it works is probably semi-common knowledge in her time.

I don't get what you mean by "doesn't fit", either.

No evidence for or against, really.

[CanadaAotS]

Our shota's plenty mature if you look in the right places.

Oh shi- RmX your inner fangirl just woke up.
Also seems she's feeling a bit perverted after he "nap" haha


I always thought that she was some girl they grabbed off the street, (presumably at the orders of Adult Mikuru) gave her no training other than a bit of information and said mental conditioning, and sent her on her merry way back in time.

I kinda think this as well. Back to the Self-Consistency, Little Mikuru get's pulled off the streets as you say, given minimal conditioning and the like and sent to do her job because big mikuru now has an important position at the "Time Bureau" (lol?) and essentially has no choice but to get her younger self to do the job.

If only to keep the time flowing right.

[kaura117]

I thought of Mitsuru as a loser with a manly essence 200 miles within him, not a girl with testes.

It's a character development thing. He starts as the platonic ideal of a wimp, then the SOS-dan interferes. XX years later, you get a confident bishie with his shirt half-unbuttoned, making women swoon left and right, and men red with envy. The only difference, really, between our visions, is that I see him responding more assertively further down the line, rather than right now.

[Ithekro]

We don't know how old she is ("classified information", remember?) We don't know how good the aging tech is in the future. She could be 8 years old with a babe body, or she could be 30 years old with a busty loli body. We don't know for sure. We also don't know how long it is between Mikuru (small) and Mikuru (Big). It looks like the elder Mikuru is maybe 30, but again with the future tech, we can't be sure of this. Also do we assume Mikuru is Asian (rather than mixed or a foreigner, as her busts and hair color would suggest European to me more than typical Asian)? If she is Asian, than her age can be in question even more, because most Asian women I have encountered look way younger than they actually are. By as much as 15-20 years younger by the time they hit 40 and have kids in college.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I kinda think this as well. Back to the Self-Consistency, Little Mikuru get's pulled off the streets as you say, given minimal conditioning and the like and sent to do her job because big mikuru now has an important position at the "Time Bureau" (lol?) and essentially has no choice but to get her younger self to do the job.

If only to keep the time flowing right.

Yeah, exactly.

I envision Adult Mikuru just showing up at the "Time Bureau" and being all like "lol guys, I'm from the future, so I have foreknowledge of events and am therefore taking over administration of this place."

[kaura117]

Time travel and how it works is probably semi-common knowledge in her time.

I don't get what you mean by "doesn't fit", either.

No evidence for or against, really.

Semi-common knowledge doesn't at all mean that the average citizen has a working and functional understanding of the theoretical principles underlining it. Hell, most of the mouthbreathers out on the streets right now will willingly protest a leakage of electromagnetic radiation at the nearest physics lab, disregarding the fact that it's lightbulbs they're protesting against. There's plenty of dialogue that does suggest that Mikuru is smart enough to understand not only the whys but the hows of her mission.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Oh shi- RmX your inner fangirl just woke up.
Also seems she's feeling a bit perverted after he "nap" haha

Yeah she gets like that.

And dammit Kaisos! Look at what your pet theories do to the discussion.

[Kaisos Erranon]

We don't know how old she is ("classified information", remember?) We don't know how good the aging tech is in the future. She could be 8 years old with a babe body, or she could be 30 years old with a busty loli body. We don't know for sure. We also don't know how long it is between Mikuru (small) and Mikuru (Big). It looks like the elder Mikuru is maybe 30, but again with the future tech, we can't be sure of this. Also do we assume Mikuru is Asian (rather than mixed or a foreigner, as her busts and hair color would suggest European to me more than typical Asian)? If she is Asian, than her age can be in question even more, because most Asian women I have encountered look way younger than they actually are. By as much as 15-20 years younger by the time they hit 40 and have kids in college.

Since tech in the future is so far advanced as to be based around nanoprobes and bio-computers, yeah, she could be any age.

And the hair color isn't actually there. It's light brown in the original, but they changed it to red in the anime to make her stand out more. Nor is she that busty, compared to western girls. I've seen bigger. She's Japanese.

Semi-common knowledge doesn't at all mean that the average citizen has a working and functional understanding of the theoretical principles underlining it. Hell, most of the mouthbreathers out on the streets right now will willingly protest a leakage of electromagnetic radiation at the nearest physics lab, disregarding the fact that it's lightbulbs they're protesting against. There's plenty of dialogue that does suggest that Mikuru is smart enough to understand not only the whys but the hows of her mission.

No, I don't think they tell her anything other than exactly what she needs to know.

Remember the infodump I keep insisting is wrong information?

Yeah she gets like that.

And dammit Kaisos! Look at what your pet theories do to the discussion.

Well, it helps us understand the plot better.

[Kagedanji]

It's a character development thing. He starts as the platonic ideal of a wimp, then the SOS-dan interferes. XX years later, you get a confident bishie with his shirt half-unbuttoned, making women swoon left and right, and men red with envy. The only difference, really, between our visions, is that I see him responding more assertively further down the line, rather than right now.

Yes, wimp. WIMP. NOT GAY. NOT A GIRL.

I also just got an idea for the movie plot that he stars in. Change the film's story entirely. We only change the film, so it doesn't really affect anything else in the entire story. It makes no sense when Haru makes him star in a magical girl movie when he's trying to make him become a man.

Neither does him making him wear female and gay outfits. But Haru can make an excuse saying "Wearing these is your test. If you can survive and keep your pride and dignity, despite these clothes, you will succeed!". Back to the film...

Mitsuru-kan (Dokuro-Chan ref) is a failing business man whose secret identity is a wild gunslinger in a long coat (Trigun ref?). Watching him try to pull off manly lines will be good comedy.

[CanadaAotS]

Yeah, exactly.

I envision Adult Mikuru just showing up at the "Time Bureau" and being all like "lol guys, I'm from the future, so I have foreknowledge of events and am therefore taking over administration of this place."

Hahaha probably how it went down.

Kage: I'm pretty sure it was decided that it wasn't going to be a magical girl movie.
Also that Mitsuuru would be dressed up as a Combat Butler.

EDIT: Kaisos, about the bust size, Adult Mikuru's are fairly ample.


Yet she wasn't Asahina-san. The Asahina-san I knew wasn't that tall, and her face wasn't that fully grown, not to mention the breasts under her blouse couldn't have possibly grown a third in size overnight.


A third in size... *drools just a bit*
Uh so yeah I'm sure they're unusually large. But I don't even see why that'd make her a foreigner... (SZS: The foreigner's breasts were smaller then the hot teacher's, And the episode you find that out, was great :p)

[Kagedanji]

Hahaha probably how it went down.

Kage: I'm pretty sure it was decided that it wasn't going to be a magical girl movie.
Also that Mitsuuru would be dressed up as a Combat Butler.

I saw a rewrite 50+ pages ago that kept the magical chippendales girl theme. Everyone seemed to agree with it.

[kaura117]

No, I don't think they tell her anything other than exactly what she needs to know.

Remember the infodump I keep insisting is wrong information?


Sorry, but I don't buy it. Even if they mislead their agents, there still needs to be a level of competence available to make sure she doesn't fuck up something like protecting the inventor of the time travel gimmick. You don't grab unwilling agents and toss them into the foray. Especially if we also follow up your earlier theory of the agency being a government branch. Even if there's a level of brainwashing involved, it still requires a core of competence to successfully execute.

Besides, there's nothing in the novels to suggest brain damage of all things.

[Ithekro]

Chippendales is not a girl costume (seriously you need to get the Chris Farley image out of your heads. This is suppose to be a manly man costume for woman to drool over). That would be for when he is selling things at store fronts, not while doing combat with Yuuki.

[Kagedanji]

NO ONE HIRES MALE STRIPPERS TO HELP SELL PRODUCE. o_o

[CanadaAotS]

Sorry, but I don't buy it. Even if they mislead their agents, there still needs to be a level of competence available to make sure she doesn't fuck up something like protecting the inventor of the time travel gimmick. You don't grab unwilling agents and toss them into the foray. Especially if we also follow up your earlier theory of the agency being a government branch. Even if there's a level of brainwashing involved, it still requires a core of competence to successfully execute.

Besides, there's nothing in the novels to suggest brain damage of all things.

That's the thing though Adult Mikuru already knows Little Mikuru won't screw up in such a way. Self-Consistency weeee!

NO ONE HIRES MALE STRIPPERS TO HELP SELL PRODUCE. o_o

To be perfectly honest, neither does one hire girls in bunny suits to sell produce.
CRACK EDIT: "Hey... wanna buy this... Banana?"

[Ithekro]

No one hires bunny girls for that either, but that's Haruhi for you.

[kaura117]

That's the thing though Adult Mikuru already knows Little Mikuru won't screw up in such a way. Self-Consistency weeee!



To be perfectly honest, neither does one hire girls in bunny suits to sell produce.

And we've already established that Adult Mikuru's one smart, sinister little cookie, right?

So the potential's there, festering and growing over the years. You won't get that via brain damage.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Sorry, but I don't buy it. Even if they mislead their agents, there still needs to be a level of competence available to make sure she doesn't fuck up something like protecting the inventor of the time travel gimmick. You don't grab unwilling agents and toss them into the foray. Especially if we also follow up your earlier theory of the agency being a government branch. Even if there's a level of brainwashing involved, it still requires a core of competence to successfully execute.

Besides, there's nothing in the novels to suggest brain damage of all things.

They're misleading Mikuru. Not their other agents.

Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE EVILBecause Adult Mikuru remembers being misled and lied to when she was in that position. It's also why they know Little Mikuru won't fuck up anything.

Adult Mikuru, being from an even further future, is effectively in charge of everything.

And yeah, I guess brain damage is a little extreme. But, you know, you'd have to delve pretty far into the human brain to insert such features as an auto-censor.

God, that scene in Endless Eight was funny.

"Uuu... Lemme think... I have continued to use classified information to contact the future or to do classified information... Urr. I only feel something is wrong when I have had no contact from classified information for a week. And then classified information... Makes me very worried, so I tried to use classified information and the answer was classified information... Uuu... Waa! Whatever should I do..."

Edit: Dammit, beaten to it already.

[S_Reed]

NO ONE HIRES MALE STRIPPERS TO HELP SELL PRODUCE. o_o

You've just fanned the flame within me that cries out for bunny suit Kyonko. Seriously, she should be the star this time around in the film.

[Kagedanji]

Anyway. More on my version of the movie.

Loser businessman, goes door to door, gets harassed by boss, lives in a crap home. His alternate identity is the long-coat-wearing gunslinger who came from the future and perishes evil. Mikuru beam goes through the genderbendifying process and becomes Mitsu bullet. Basically, some laser that comes from his futuristic gun. He will throw manly lines with his typical male loser Simon voice and Itsuko's character will have a crush on him. Kyon will get angry at all of the scenes where Itsuko's char tries to femininely support him. Yuuki is a great warlock with necromancing powers.

[Ithekro]

I this evilness of Mikuru (Big) some sort of point in Book 8 or 9, because I'm not seeing it quite that way from Book 7.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I this evilness of Mikuru (Big) some sort of point in Book 8 or 9, because I'm not seeing it quite that way from Book 7.

Just our suspicions. And yes, it is from Vol. 7. Kyon's reactions to her behavior and general building distrust of her motives.

[CanadaAotS]

snip.

I think I laughed too much at the quote you put in there. waa uuua~ classified information desu~!?

EDIT: I'm not sure I agree with what Kage is doing with the Adventure of Mitsuru plot, but I do agree that it shouldn't be "Mahou shoujo, outsert mikuru insert mitsuuru"

Just not the kind of movie Haruki would make.

[Ithekro]

Remember, this is Haruki's story...with cheap effects (mostly, except when Haruki changes physics). How are you going to have cheap undead with no budget? Brainwashed zombies don't cut it for necromancers.

Though the thought of Mitsuru yelling something about "Load (whatever) Cartridge!" might be hysterical. I'd still rather he keep some form of on his body weapon, be it an eye beam, or flame fists, or hyper chests energy blades, whatever, as long as it can be draw in cheapy by Kyonko in post-production, and can be stopped by Yuuki's hand when it manifests in reality.

We also need someone that can sing (intentionally badly) for the theme song. (Wawawa-san? No that was vetoed long ago even though he has a "manly" version of Mikuru's song already)

[Kagedanji]

I got it! Yu Yu Hakusho ref.

Mitsu Bullet is the Spirit Gun.

[DJ_RockmanX]

I got it! Yu Yu Hakusho ref.

Mitsu Bullet is the Spirit Gun.

I already had the Mitsuru Beam as a Kamehameha.

But that's cool too.

Though the thought of Mitsuru yelling something about "Load (whatever) Cartridge!" might be hysterical.

Yuuki's the one that'll be saying "Load Cartridge" using the Sterling Inferno Mark III.

[CanadaAotS]

Remember, this is Haruki's story...with cheap effects (mostly, except when Haruki changes physics). How are you going to have cheap undead with no budget? Brainwashed zombies don't cut it for necromancers.

Though the thought of Mitsuru yelling something about "Load (whatever) Cartridge!" might be hysterical. I'd still rather he keep some form of on his body weapon, be it an eye beam, or flame fists, or hyper chests energy blades, whatever, as long as it can be draw in cheapy by Kyonko in post-production, and can be stopped by Yuuki's hand when it manifests in reality.

We also need someone that can sing (intentionally badly) for the theme song. (Wawawa-san? No that was vetoed long ago even though he has a "manly" version of Mikuru's song already)

That sucks! I didn't know it got veto'd awhile back, Minoru's wa wa wa would've been great haha.

Hell if I knew all the words and didn't suck at remembering Japanese lyrics (I have a hard enough time as it is with English) I'd sing it for you guys xD.
I think I even have the Koi no Mikuru off vocal mp3 kicking around somewhere...

[Kagedanji]

Why the hell are we going to have "COMON LES DANCE COMON LES DANCE BAY BEE" playing to businessman/gunslinger?

[Newguy]

Why aren't there more Kyon x Kyonko pics? My fetish for interdimensional clone sex :(

[DJ_RockmanX]

Why aren't there more Kyon x Kyonko pics? My fetish for interdimensional clone sex :(

Check the image thread, yo.

[Newguy]

Check the image thread, yo.

Opps. Sorry.

[Ithekro]

Remember the (Mikuru Beam) effect needs to be able to be photoshopped into the frame by Kyon-ko in post, so it can't be something too tricky. Also it has to be something that when it manifest in reality (twice), won't be noticed by anyone other than Mitsuuru and Yuuki (and later Itsuko and Kyonko). Haruki doesn't see it (somehow) and Kyonko only figures it out when she sees Yuuki's damaged (hand) and the messed up gate/fence. Also it needs to be something that Haruki can change with his will but can be deprogramed by Yuuki (will he still bite the terrified Mitsuuru?)

[Kaisos Erranon]

Maybe we should have Mitsuuru parody the Demon Gun Shot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpFFHvP184).

[S_Reed]

Why the hell are we going to have "COMON LES DANCE COMON LES DANCE BAY BEE" playing to businessman/gunslinger?

Agreed. It needs to be some really cheesy tune from the 80's. Methinks something from Mobile Suit Gundam will do nicely.

[CanadaAotS]

Why aren't there more Kyon x Kyonko pics? My fetish for interdimensional clone sex :(

And that's why we have the Crossroads doujinshi project. Because we all want Kyonko to get banged by Kyon (except maybe Kang Seu, being her protector and all...)
From what I've heard though C74 will have a ton of gender bent haruhi doujinshi's due to it's current popularity.
We even have a few people from this thread that'll be scouting out for them specifically when the time comes... too bad C74 isn't till August... :(

[Kaisos Erranon]

Agreed. It needs to be some really cheesy tune from the 80's. Methinks something from Mobile Suit Gundam will do nicely.

Maybe this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rtQbpwmG8I) would do, as well.

[Ithekro]

But then we need to have Aya playing Mutsuuru to get just the right amount of corny into it (Mituuru with Konata's voice?)

[Kaisos Erranon]

But then we need to have Aya playing Mutsuuru to get just the right amount of corny into it (Mituuru with Konata's voice?)

Oh god no.

Besides, the song is corny all by itself... it's Dragonball, for the love of god.

[Forceflow]

Maybe this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rtQbpwmG8I) would do, as well.

If we think that Haruki is trying to 'manify' him, shouldn't we choose a manly hot-blooded song? Should have some interesting results with him wimpfying such a song. :heh:

[DJ_RockmanX]

All of this begs the question: What kind of shounen stuff did Haruki watch?

I'm thinking DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho at the very least, along with some Gundam.

[Kaisos Erranon]

All of this begs the question: What kind of shounen stuff did Haruki watch?

I'm thinking DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho at the very least, along with some Gundam.

Gundam counts as shonen?

Shonen is over-the-top and awesome, not full of drama and Real Robots (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealRobot).

Also, can't we assume he's seen Gurren Lagann? The series does take place in 2010.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Gundam counts as shonen?

Shonen is over-the-top and awesome, not full of drama and Real Robots (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealRobot).

Also, can't we assume he's seen Gurren Lagann? The series does take place in 2010.

Sure Gundam counts as shounen. :p

We can assume he keeps up with modern shounen series as well, but I say he was defined by more old school shows. That was a better era for shounen, at least in my opinion. :D

[Kaisos Erranon]

Sure Gundam counts as shounen. :p

We can assume he keeps up with modern shounen series as well, but I say he was defined by more old school shows. That was a better era for shounen, at least in my opinion. :D

Sure, G Gundam is shonen. Not Mobile Suit Gundam, that's seinen.

...I personally think Gurren Lagann is the best shonen show ever made, but...

Oh! And he's probably seen GaoGaiGar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9UX_ZxAmA&feature=related)too.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Sure, G Gundam is shonen. Not Mobile Suit Gundam, that's seinen.

...I personally think Gurren Lagann is the best shonen show ever made, but...

Oh! And he's probably seen GaoGaiGar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9UX_ZxAmA&feature=related)too.

Gundam Wing then. That's pandering to the shounen audience of the time.

And GGG would have a great influence over Haruki.

Gurren Lagann... that's definitely Haruki's number one model for shounen in the current anime era.

[Forceflow]

Oh! And he's probably seen GaoGaiGar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9UX_ZxAmA&feature=related)too.

Problem would be the lyrics... Unless hes makes Mitsuuru gattai as well... Then we have him in cardboard armour running around the playground... Damn, sounds good. :heh:

[Ithekro]

Even Haruhi was up on old school Gundam and the Computer Society President on Space Battleship Yamato (at least in animation).

[kaura117]

Gundam Wing then. That's pandering to the shounen audience of the time.

And GGG would have a great influence over Haruki.

Gurren Lagann... that's definitely Haruki's number one model for shounen in the current anime era.

Haruki cried manly tears for a week after the last episode. You just know he did. =D

[DJ_RockmanX]

Haruki cried manly tears for a week after the last episode. You just know he did. =D

My fanboy cried out in anguish again... :upset:

And I definitely see Haruki doing the same. :D

[Kaisos Erranon]

My fanboy cried out in anguish again... :upset:

And I definitely see Haruki doing the same. :D

He would have been like 12 at the time too.

Yeah, he would have cried.

[Ithekro]

What (three years ago) make Haruki cause the time-quake? If this is set in 2010, then it happened some time earlier in 2007 (April I suppose). What was on the air in April of 2007 that would cause this....(aside from assuming he discovered how the sameness of all the people in the world made him feel less special and wanted a world where he was special? We assume that night as the baseball park is what caused the god to happen at this time?)

[Tsuikana]

Somehow I think that kamekameha will cause a bit too much damage to be unnoticed by people >.>

And if he is a gunslinger, i still don't think it should be something that takes a long time to actually "shoot" it.
(Referring to the Demon Shot thing)

[kaura117]

What (three years ago) make Haruki cause the time-quake? If this is set in 2010, then it happened some time earlier in 2007 (April I suppose). What was on the air in April of 2007 that would cause this....

For purposes of consistency, it would've been the same reason Haruhi set off that data explosion. It is, after all, core to both characters.

[Kaisos Erranon]

What (three years ago) make Haruki cause the time-quake? If this is set in 2010, then it happened some time earlier in 2007 (April I suppose). What was on the air in April of 2007 that would cause this....

Gurren Lagann started in April. Kamina's death aired in June, though.

[Ithekro]

What date in June? It does need to be before the Bamboo Leaf Incident (right)?

[Kaisos Erranon]

What date in June? It does need to be before the Bamboo Leaf Incident (right)?

The Bamboo Leaf Incident was on July 7th.

Edit: Actually, Kamina's death aired on May 20th. Interesting.

[Ithekro]

Heh Heh. While it is off canon, we may have a winner for cause and effect.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Heh Heh. While it is off canon, we may have a winner for cause and effect.

Wouldn't he remake the world so that Kamina survived, in that case...?

Hmm.

[Ithekro]

Perhaps it is reflected in his message to the aliens (spiral patterns?) that Kyonko helps with.

[Jintor]

Wouldn't he remake the world so that Kamina survived, in that case...?

Hmm.

Remember, like Koizumi says, at some level Haruhi/Haruki realises that reality shouldn't bow to his wishes.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Remember, like Koizumi says, at some level Haruhi/Haruki realises that reality shouldn't bow to his wishes.

Well, if, hypothetically, the trigger for his mental breakdown and reconstruction of the universe was Kamina's death, then shouldn't "fixing" that be his first priority?

(Also, everyone, please note. Kamina's death would NOT be the actual reason for Haruki's breakdown in this hypothetical situation. Just the straw that broke the camel's back.)

[dkellis]

Question: are we really going to be using TTGL as a reference in the rewrite?

Because you all probably know my views on overly specific pop culture references. Also, I've never seen TTGL, since, yanno, it's licenced.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Question: are we really going to be using TTGL as a reference in the rewrite?

Because you all probably know my views on overly specific pop culture references. Also, I've never seen TTGL, since, yanno, it's licenced.

No, it's just a theory. And Haruki tends to quote TTGL a lot in my rewrites.

[Ithekro]

Perhaps not the death, but an desire to be that manly? Though somehow I don't seen Haruki being that into self sacrifice, though maybe he does have the "take one for the team when there is no other way" mentality. Or maybe it was a wish to make Simon more GAR than Kamina (because maybe in the original pre-tweaked-by-Haruki version, Simon went emo-useless and we got total Shinji all over agian). Haruki fixed it and thus gave Gainax a hit. (oh, KyoAni could rake Gainax over the coals if that were true).

I've never seen TTGL either, I just get stuff from blogs. It so far is not my type of anime. That may change someday.

[Jintor]

No, it's just a theory. And Haruki tends to quote TTGL a lot in my rewrites.

So long as it's references in the form "Oh, hey, he's talkin' TTGL ain't he" if you've seen TTGL and "Oh, that's so Haruki" if they haven't.

Best kind of references.

[Kaisos Erranon]

So long as it's references in the form "Oh, hey, he's talkin' TTGL ain't he" if you've seen TTGL and "Oh, that's so Haruki" if they haven't.

Best kind of references.

Yep.

Also, I'm fixing up Chapter Two on the BT Wiki.

Give it a read once I'm done.

[Jintor]

I dislike the wiki format, but I'll go take a peek and stick in all my italics (and freaking proper spacing, that shit's important) and bolds and whatnot later.

For now, *@$ing integration with ##@$ing logarithms and *@#(ing exponentials.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I dislike the wiki format, but I'll go take a peek and stick in all my italics (and freaking proper spacing, that shit's important) and bolds and whatnot later.

For now, *@$ing integration with ##@$ing logarithms and *@#(ing exponentials.

I'm doing it with your edits right now.

Should take about an hour or so.

[Jintor]

Thanks mate.

(I really dislike the wiki format. It's just... just... so evil.)

[Kaisos Erranon]

Thanks mate.

(I really dislike the wiki format. It's just... just... so evil.)

I'm not doing the italics, though. Don't know where you want those in.

Also, can you flip through the other chapters and take your little comments out?

The ones that used to be strikethrough on here, I mean.

[Jintor]

I'll do it tommorrow. Maths, maths, maths. :/

[Kaisos Erranon]

I'll do it tommorrow. Maths, maths, maths. :/

Good luck with that, then.

[Puffendahl]

I noticed some talk about Volume-4-Yuuki a few pages ago, so I decided to state my opinion.

I definitely agree that he should be shy, bookish and all the rest that comes with them. Although I obviously prefer the "real Yuuki", that kind of an alternative Yuuki does indeed cause my fangirl side to squeal of happiness (especially since he wears glasses :love:). There's absolutely nothing wrong with shyness; I don't know how many fellow fangirls agree with me, but I think it's just right for the "yuukiverse" Yuuki.


Heh, out of the fangirl mode now :heh:
I'm actually having some problems with the Wiki at B-T myself... Because it seems I suck with that kind of things. The proof would be that I'm currently trying to figure out how to embed pics into the text and the gallery (yes, I was asked to do so, I'm not just doing random 'MY PIC HERE'-action on my own :p).

I'm not very willing to be too active with my figuring out, though, since I fear I might blow the page up or something... :heh:
Wish me good luck...

[Red225]

Hi, I'm another one who registered just to post in this (legendary) thread. I haven't read all the way through it, but something just caught my eye in one of the chapters archived in the first post, specifically the bit in Chapter 6 where Kyon-ko meets Adult Mitsuuru for the first time... (DKellis' work) (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1444769&postcount=672)

I found another letter in my shoe locker again today. What was it with letters in shoe lockers these days anyway? Don't these people use email?

The letter felt different this time, however. For one thing, it wasn't simply folded without a name. The envelope was a bit plain, like it came from one of those business packages they sell at bookstores, and on it was written a name.

Asahina Mitsuru.

I shoved the envelope into my bag, and rushed to the girls' washroom to open it. The message was written on a plain white piece of paper, meandering a bit when it reached the end.

I'll be waiting for you in the club room during lunch break.

Asahina Mitsuru

After what happened yesterday, my notion of reality had changed dramatically. I never want to go through anything like that again.

And yet, there was no way I could turn this down. I couldn't imagine Asahina-sempai even thinking about doing anything improper to me, and even though I had no proof that this letter was indeed sent by him, I didn't doubt its authenticity, since he seemed like the sort to go through such indirect old-fashioned means. The mental image of Asahina-sempai slowly writing every word down with great care, his face locked in concentration, made me smile. Besides, if we're meeting in the club room, then Nagato-san should be there as well, and he'll protect me if anything really happens.

-

When lunchtime rolled around, I was immediately surrounded by the usual gaggle of idiots: Kunikida, coming over to me with her lunchbox, Taniguchi, staring at me with knowing eyes, and Haruki, who was yelling something stupid about wanting to investigate the disappearance of Asakura Ryou. To tell the truth, I was surprised that Taniguchi hadn't spread the word about what she saw yesterday all over the school like the gossip she was. Maybe she wanted to get the story straight out of my mouth.

Like she'd believe the truth anyway. I left the classroom without even eating a bite of lunch.

It was only May, and already the sun was smothering us with overbearing warmth. When summer actually comes, Japan will be a natural sauna. I was already sweating just by taking a few steps.

When I arrived at the club room door, I knocked first.

"Please, come in."

The voice was unfamiliar, and I hesitated. Was that really Asahina-sempai in there? If I really strained my mind, I could make myself believe that I could hear a bit of Asahina-sempai in there, but it was too deep to be his normal voice. He sounded friendly enough, but Asakura-san was friendly yesterday too, just before he tried to kill me.

There was the sound of footsteps from inside the room, and the door opened. I took a step back, ready to run away. Okay, so I'm a coward. I can't help it, I'm just a fragile girl.

To my surprise, Nagato-san wasn't in his usual position in the room, from what I could see. The person who opened the door wasn't Asahina-sempai either. He left the door open, and stepped backwards into the room, hands raised in a gesture of harmlessness. He was wearing a loose white shirt and black business pants, plus the slippers made for school visitors. His long brown hair was tied into a ponytail down his back. "I promise I won't harm you," he said quietly. "If you'd like, I can stay all the way here near the window, and you can stay near the door."

He wasn't Asahina-sempai, but he looked a lot like him. The Asahina-sempai I knew wasn't that tall, and he looked more like a cute little boy than this handsome guy in front of me now. This guy was in his twenties, and gave a completely different feel than the middle-school-like Asahina-sempai.

But he resembled Asahina-sempai too much, which was probably why I stepped into the club room anyway.

"It's been a long time, Kyon-chan," the man said.

Could it be... "Are you, um, Asahina-sempai's... brother?"

He blinked in surprised, and then chuckled. His smile made him look even more like Asahina-sempai. "No, silly, it's me! I'm Asahina Mitsuru, except that I come from further in the timeline. I've always wanted to meet you again."

I can't imagine the stupid expression on my face then. After what Asahina-sempai had told me in the park, I could accept that this person was himself from the future. He had really grown handsome in the years to come, and he'd probably have a huge following of potential girlfriends, if he was still single.
Specifically, the reaction of Kyon-ko going into the clubroom 'just because' seems a bit off - the girl's been nearly murdered less than a day ago by Ryo, and I'm still surprised she's not mentally scarred from that, or at least a bit more jumpy.

What's more, she's got two reasons for not thinking this is dangerous, for one the note was definitely written by Asahina, and the second point is that Yuuki's going to be there. Except... when (male) Kyon goes to the clubroom, he only sees the much less threatening Adult Mikuru, while when Kyon-ko goes, she's confrontedd with GAR Adult Mitsuuru, and no Nagato. In other words, no-one to protect her. While she'd still end up in the classroom, I doubt she'd just waltz in there so easily. How about...

When I arrived at the club room door, I knocked first.

"Please, come in."

The voice was unfamiliar, and I hesitated. Was that really Asahina-sempai in there? If I really strained my mind, I could make myself believe that I could hear a bit of Asahina-sempai in there, but it was too deep to be his normal voice. He sounded friendly enough, but Asakura-san was friendly yesterday too, just before he tried to kill me.

There was the sound of footsteps from inside the room, and the door opened. I tensed, ready to run away. Okay, so I'm a coward. I can't help it, I'm just a fragile girl.

Nagato-san wasn't there.

The person who opened the door wasn't Asahina-sempai either, and I actually took a step backwards before stopping myself. He left the door open, and stepped backwards into the room, hands raised in a gesture of harmlessness. He was wearing a loose white shirt and black business pants, plus the slippers made for school visitors. His long brown hair was tied into a ponytail down his back. "I promise I won't harm you," he said quietly. "If you'd like, I can stay all the way here near the window, and you can stay near the door."

He wasn't Asahina-sempai, but he looked a lot like him. The Asahina-sempai I knew wasn't that tall, and he looked more like a cute little boy than this handsome guy in front of me now. This guy was in his twenties, and gave a completely different feel than the middle-school-like Asahina-sempai.

But he resembled Asahina-sempai too much to be a coincidence.

"It's been a long time, Kyon-chan," the man said.

Could it be... "Are you, um, Asahina-sempai's... brother?"

He blinked in surprised, and then chuckled. His smile made him look even more like Asahina-sempai. "No, silly, it's me! I'm Asahina Mitsuru, except that I come from further in the timeline. I've always wanted to meet you again."

I can't imagine the stupid expression on my face then. After what Asahina-sempai had told me in the park, I could accept that this person was himself from the future, and I stepped inside the clubroom to look more closely.[/b] He had really grown handsome in the years to come, and he'd probably have a huge following of potential girlfriends, if he was still single.

"Oh, you don't believe me? Well then, I'll have to show you proof, right?" He began to unbutton his shirt.

Wait wait wait! I'm not ready for this! Aren't we moving a bit too quickly?


...That's just my two pence. I feel that Kyon-ko would be slightly more skittish than Kyon, and with Haruki around, I can see why.

[Jintor]

Well thought-through, and justified. We haven't reached that section yet, but I'm sure Kaisos will keep that in mind when he's writing it.

Welcome aboard, mate. Glad to have you with us.

[Red225]

Joy! *does happy dance*

:D

[dkellis]

...That's just my two pence. I feel that Kyon-ko would be slightly more skittish than Kyon, and with Haruki around, I can see why.

Yeah, that works very nicely. Thanks.

[Roger Rambo]

It's good, but... closed eye expression? Dude, that's like Yuki's hair color... it's not actually there, it's just a convention used in animation.
[shrugs]I suppose that the anime just leaves a greater impression than reading the translation.

Aren't we going to be mixing mutually exclusive content to both the anime and novels in at least lone Island syndrome? (Little brother being there, Haruki getting drunk, Haruki's greater involvement in solving the mystery).

Perhaps not the death, but an desire to be that manly? Though somehow I don't seen Haruki being that into self sacrifice, though maybe he does have the "take one for the team when there is no other way" mentality. Or maybe it was a wish to make Simon more GAR than Kamina (because maybe in the original pre-tweaked-by-Haruki version, Simon went emo-useless and we got total Shinji all over agian). Haruki fixed it and thus gave Gainax a hit. (oh, KyoAni could rake Gainax over the coals if that were true).

I've never seen TTGL either, I just get stuff from blogs. It so far is not my type of anime. That may change someday.Being willing to self sacrifice doesn't mean you can't be a complete and utter nuisance to everyone else.

[C.A.]

I've never seen TTGL either, I just get stuff from blogs. It so far is not my type of anime. That may change someday.You don't get the full picture until you see it yourself. Learning/seeing something through a medium will result in a different perspective.

When you wear a pair of red sunglasses, the glass of water in front of you looks red. Once you remove the shades, it can actually be green, when you thought its colourless liquid.

You just have to try it yourself.

About the design for Kuyoh's, I actually posted it like 150 pages ago, but it seems like nobody noticed... I did Kyoko and Sasaki as well.

[Cat Megex]

Which must make the attitude of the time travelers interesting... with knowledge of the future, they truly have no free will.

But would they necessarily know what effect their actions would have? For example, Mikuru (little) had no idea that she would be rescuing that little boy who would grow up to invent (or "invent") time travel when she was ordered to go on the date with Kyon.

In other news, I've finally managed to organize my no seitenkan folder, going to do one last duplicate sweep then it'll be ready to go.
I plan on torrenting it because 280 mb is a bit big to be splitting up on some file sharing site.
Torrent is here:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1281775

w00t!

[Kagedanji]

I still vote for Mitsu businessman/gunslinger with spirit gun.

[ClockWorkAngel]

There is free will, but they have to complete a predetermined objective. It's basiclly do this in any way possible.

I don't think a spirit gun is thesible, Mikuru(Big) didn't have any weapon (As of yet) probably because if they know the future they would already have foreseen any dangers (unless someone is supposed to die) At most Mitsuuru (big) might have some sort of close combat training bu anything else might seem to extreme. Or take away from the whole image.

[CatzCradle]

Just wanted to let you guys know that the next comic has been released:

http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1206883201056.jpg

Can anyone please translate this into English?

[Kagedanji]

There is free will, but they have to complete a predetermined objective. It's basiclly do this in any way possible.

I don't think a spirit gun is thesible, Mikuru(Big) didn't have any weapon (As of yet) probably because if they know the future they would already have foreseen any dangers (unless someone is supposed to die) At most Mitsuuru (big) might have some sort of close combat training bu anything else might seem to extreme. Or take away from the whole image.

1. I'm talking about the brigade's festival movie.

2. Spirit gun is not a handgun, it's a laser that comes out of a finger.

[Cat Megex]

snip

Welcome aboard! ^^

[dkellis]

Can anyone please translate this into English?

Kyonko tells Haruki that she's forehead-moe...

... and then Kyon wakes up from his nightmare.

[ClockWorkAngel]

1. I was talking to about the free will thing quoted by Cat from Kaisos

I know what the spirit gun is :) I've watch Yu Yu before. The brigade movie can still have combat butler-esque guy with guns that's fine :/ I don't think kyonko would appreciate being forced to do more special effects. We got mikuru beamu anyways :p

[Kagedanji]

1. I was talking to about the free will thing quoted by Cat from Kaisos

I know what the spirit gun is :) I've watch Yu Yu before. The brigade movie can still have combat butler-esque guy with guns that's fine :/ I don't think kyonko would appreciate being forced to do more special effects. We got mikuru beamu anyways :p

You can make the cheap lightning effect come out of the finger. AND NO MAN MAKES A V GESTURE ON HIS EYE TO FIGHT.

[ClockWorkAngel]

No man yet! Mitsuuru will break and has broken many borders already XD

[Kagedanji]

Stop making no sense.

Haruki: I WILL MAKE YOU A MAN! NOW GO AND STAR IN A MAGICAL BUTLER MOVIE!

[ClockWorkAngel]

Remember the general thing is that Haruki is using that as an excuse to exploit Mitsuruu. He does become bishie and manly, but we can't neccesarily say that it was directly because of Haruki. And you're the crack dango not me!

[Kaisos Erranon]

Aren't we going to be mixing mutually exclusive content to both the anime and novels in at least lone Island syndrome? (Little brother being there, Haruki getting drunk, Haruki's greater involvement in solving the mystery).

Of course, but we're not having Kyon's Brother there. I'm not going to have him drink, thanks. Minami-ke was enough.


...That's just my two pence. I feel that Kyon-ko would be slightly more skittish than Kyon, and with Haruki around, I can see why.

Thank you, you're awesome.

I still vote for Mitsu businessman/gunslinger with spirit gun.

I still think it'd be cooler if we parodied Kaze and the demon gun shot sequence. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpFFHvP184)

That'd be awesome.

[Kagedanji]

I distribute crack. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I LIKE HOW OTHERS USE IT.

And Haruki must be major queer if he would rather exploit a gay than a girl.

And no, I DIDNT TRY TO SPELL GUY.

You also can't do demon gun shots with fucking photoshop.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I distribute crack. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I LIKE HOW OTHERS USE IT.

And Haruki must be major queer if he would rather exploit a gay than a girl.

And no, I DIDNT TRY TO SPELL GUY.

You also can't do demon gun shots with fucking photoshop.

No, but they can parody the lines and the general feel of the sequence.

[Red225]

Would replacing Itsuko as the main protagonist work? Though... no, I can't see how Yuuki would try to seduce Asahina instead of Itsuko in the film...

Although, how would you do the differing special effects? The various superlasers created by Mikuru was because of the different contact lenses, so what would be an analogue for a finger-laser? Gloves? Rings? Armbands?

[Cat Megex]

I still think it'd be cooler if we parodied Kaze and the demon gun shot sequence. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpFFHvP184)

That'd be awesome.

Final Fantasy Unlimited, eh? *has the DVD box set that he got at FYE for $30 on his shelf* Sounds interesting to me, but...how would you translate the sequence to prose?

[Kaisos Erranon]

Would replacing Itsuko as the main protagonist work? Though... no, I can't see how Yuuki would try to seduce Asahina instead of Itsuko in the film...

Although, how would you do the differing special effects? The various superlasers created by Mikuru was because of the different contact lenses, so what would be an analogue for a finger-laser? Gloves? Rings? Armbands?

The Demon Gun. Weren't you listening?

Final Fantasy Unlimited, eh? Sounds interesting to me, but...how would you translate the sequence to prose?

I have no idea. All I really want is for him to use some form of the lines.

[Cat Megex]

The Demon Gun. Weren't you listening?



I have no idea. All I really want is for him to use some form of the lines.

Ah.

...o_O I just pictured Mitsuuru saying "The Magun has thawed" and started laughing inwardly. (Wasn't funny enough for outer laughter, though.)

[Kaisos Erranon]

Ah.

...o_O I just pictured Mitsuuru saying "The Magun has thawed" and started laughing inwardly. (Wasn't funny enough for outer laughter, though.)

Oh right, the English lines. Yeah, we have to use the cheesy dub lines.

[Tamekichi]

Just wanted to let you guys know that the next comic has been released:

http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1206883201056.jpg

Can anyone please translate this into English?

http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1206900353912.png

Also, there is a genderbending image topic now.

[Ithekro]

Somehow I don't think the Demon Gun works in context. One of the fun points is the seeming continuity errors in the movie production (eye color change). Having a big gun show up doesn't fit that very well (plus the whole Nagato blocking the resulting fire from killing Kyonko without Haruki noticing).

For the weapon to still be Mutsuuru's "trump card" it needs to be more or less inconspicuous on him, and for the continuity errors, it needs to be something that can be messed up between shots (like maybe his butler gloves or something like that. With one (or both) that changes color for the "beam" scene).

While some stuff would be quite awesome to see, most of it doesn't work in context with what Haruki and the SOS-dan has to work with, both in terms of props and the limitations on Kyonko's computer skills/time allowed to finish the project. It is suppose to be a cheap looking student film. That's the fun of it.

[Kagedanji]

Remember, when all fails, one word.

Businessman-gunslinger-spiritgun.

[Skane]

Well... with the mention of the Butler Glove, some thoughts came to mind (based on other animes). Maybe his ultimate attack comes from snapping his gloved fingers. Alchemist-flame? Monofilament-wires? Instant supernatural-cutting? Summoning a Burning Gundam?

Cheers.

[kaura117]

Well... with the mention of the Butler Glove, some thoughts came to mind (based on other animes). Maybe his ultimate attack comes from snapping his gloved fingers. Alchemist-flame? Monofilament-wires? Instant supernatural-cutting? Summoning a Burning Gundam?

Cheers.

On their budget? Supernatural cutting might work- easy enough to do via video editing. Everything else might be a bit of a challenge.

[otai]

Theres also the plot point where Kyon nearly hits Haruhi for backslapping Mikuru to get the contacts to pop out? Maybe Combat Butlers change eye color when they power up?

[kaura117]

Theres also the plot point where Kyon nearly hits Haruhi for backslapping Mikuru to get the contacts to pop out? Maybe Combat Butlers change eye color when they power up?

Aye, also easy enough to do. Flaring golden lights of GAR!ness.

[Ithekro]

If the "spirit gun" idea is what I'm beginning to think it is (just pointing your hand in the traditional gun shape) then the "Mitsuuru Beam" can come from his finger tip quite easily. Gloves would work best for that (so the color changing gloves can match the eye color changes from Mikuru). Mitsuuru could even keep the slightly meek voice as he calls forth the beam while pointing his fingers straight at the camera (since he doesn't want to kill Kyonko). Remember Mikuru was more or less completely overwhelmed by Haruhi during this production. Mitsuuru should also be overwhelmed by Haruki, doing something he normally wouldn't do, thus being unsure of himself the entire way.

The movie will be bad. Very bad. Though somehow it will attract all the female viewers to see Mitsuuru "fanservice". You won't be able to make this shota manly for the fillm. You shouldn't really try. Haruki can try, but end up with total fail. The fangirls want their shota.

[kaura117]

If the "spirit gun" idea is what I'm beginning to think it is (just pointing your hand in the traditional gun shape) then the "Mitsuuru Beam" can come from his finger tip quite easily. Gloves would work best for that (so the color changing gloves can match the eye color changes from Mikuru). Mitsuuru could even keep the slightly meek voice as he calls forth the beam while pointing his fingers straight at the camera (since he doesn't want to kill Kyonko). Remember Mikuru was more or less completely overwhelmed by Haruhi during this production. Mitsuuru should also be overwhelmed by Haruki, doing something he normally wouldn't do, thus being unsure of himself the entire way.

The movie will be bad. Very bad. Though somehow it will attract all the female viewers to see Mitsuuru "fanservice". You won't be able to make this shota manly for the fillm. You shouldn't really try. Haruki can try, but end up with total fail. The fangirls want their shota.

Actually, I think it can still be done without sacrificing what remnants of Mitsuuru's masculinity is left. Just have one scene where all of his shirt and most of his pants has been ripped away from an enemy attack, leaving him in what amounts to a Chippendale costume tossed through a lawnmower.

[Red225]

You can also make Yuuki the girls the one to see! Tall, mysterious, handsome antagonist... put him in a warlock costume that the girls would go to watch. Bam! Twice the fanservice.

[otai]

Or put Mitsuuru in a long trenchcoat. Anything can look badass in a trenchcoat.

[Kagedanji]

If I was a girl, I'd still think that a 15 year old boy with the equivalence of an 8 year old girl is creepy, wrong, and disgraceful.

A boy of age 13 and under can be cute through shota. Maybe 14. But a FUCKING HIGH SCHOOLER. Come on!

BUSINESSMAN GUNSLINGER SPIRIT GUN

[Ithekro]

I was thinking Mitsuuru looked like a 12 year old boy not a 8 year old girl. Where did you get that idea from?

Kyon thought Mikuru had the look of a Middle School Student, which if I recall for Japan would be 7th-9th grades.

[Kaisos Erranon]

@Jintor

I finished editing Chapter Two on the B-T wiki. Give it a look over, yeah?

It's pretty much the final version, otherwise.

[Furyofthewolves]

Heres the cover of the first volume without any of the legal stuff, might have taken off more than that by accident since i can't read jap yet. Took those off so as not to violate anything. So now there a lot of white space there

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

EDIT: Damnit just noticed that stupid little piece of white space sticking out... so hard to balance that...

EDIT2: Fixed

EDIT3: Belay that... I wrote Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu in Hiragana by accident... gonna fix now...

EDIT4: now fixed... I blame the fact that you only notice something is wrong when you post it. And the Incompetence of Windows

[kaura117]

Heres the cover of the first volume without any of the legal stuff. Took those off so as not to violate anything. So now there a lot of white space there

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6214/seitenkancovervol1lr1.png

lawlsomeness. =D

[Tunafishisgood]

Heres the cover of the first volume without any of the legal stuff. Took those off so as not to violate anything. So now there a lot of white space there

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6214/seitenkancovervol1lr1.png

EDIT: Damnit just noticed that stupid little piece of white space sticking out... so hard to balance that...

Hurrayness ~!

[Forceflow]

Heres the cover of the first volume without any of the legal stuff. Took those off so as not to violate anything. So now there a lot of white space there

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6214/seitenkancovervol1lr1.png

EDIT: Damnit just noticed that stupid little piece of white space sticking out... so hard to balance that...

awesome looking~ :D

[Aebliss]

You know, if Mitsuru's butler costume is twisted a little to resemble Tuxedo Mask's outfit, namely by adding those angular spectacles, he could shoot the Mitsuru Beam from its lenses. And for different beams, he could pop in different lenses, just as Mikuru was supposed to put in different contacts.
Mitsuru could even (be ordered to) pull the aforementioned glasses from his pocket and flip them around his fingers before putting them on in a badass manner. (Of course we know he'd fumble it.)

[Cat Megex]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

Awesomeness.

...But what CRACK shall this spawn, I wonder? Making physical copies of the novels with genderbent covers, perhaps? (The possible legal issues there would be hideous, though. ...Unless you counted it as a parody or satire, possibly....)

[Tunafishisgood]

Awesomeness.

...But what CRACK shall this spawn, I wonder? Making physical copies of the novels with genderbent covers, perhaps? (The possible legal issues there would be hideous, though. ...Unless you counted it as a parody or satire, possibly....)

Yes, after that printing em out.. then putting it over your old novel. :D

[Ithekro]

Parody...definitely parody.

[Forceflow]

Though I won't mind owning a personal set when the whole project is over~ Maaa~ *daydreams*

[kaura117]

Awesomeness.

...But what CRACK shall this spawn, I wonder? Making physical copies of the novels with genderbent covers, perhaps? (The possible legal issues there would be hideous, though. ...Unless you counted it as a parody or satire, possibly....)

It's a clear parody. If you want a lawyer to make sure it stands up to court, sure, go ahead. But I'm fairly certain it falls under parody laws. We just have to, say, not sell it for profit.

[Itsuko]

You know, if Mitsuru's butler costume is twisted a little to resemble Tuxedo Mask's outfit, namely by adding those angular spectacles, he could shoot the Mitsuru Beam from its lenses. And for different beams, he could pop in different lenses, just as Mikuru was supposed to put in different contacts.
Mitsuru could even (be ordered to) pull the aforementioned glasses from his pocket and flip them around his fingers before putting them on in a badass manner. (Of course we know he'd fumble it.)

i like that idea! the lenses is a good idea because i dont know if different color contacts would look to good on him....

[Aebliss]

i like that idea! the lenses is a good idea because i dont know if different color contacts would look to good on him....

Cheers. ^^ We'd need to twist the reason why Nagato has to bite and inject him with nanobots a bit if the glasses become the source of the rays, though ... Perhaps Mitsuru has to be injected so as to make his natural electromagnetic field (everyone has one) interfere with the glasses' ability to manifest energy fields?

[Furyofthewolves]

Awesomeness.

...But what CRACK shall this spawn, I wonder? Making physical copies of the novels with genderbent covers, perhaps? (The possible legal issues there would be hideous, though. ...Unless you counted it as a parody or satire, possibly....)

Well, with how this movement is going? I think its very likely... Actually when we're done with the first volume, we can make a physical copy lol. That would be kind of funny. Don't think theres much of a problem as long as no one tries to sell it.

[Itsuko]

Cheers. ^^ We'd need to twist the reason why Nagato has to bite and inject him with nanobots a bit if the glasses become the source of the rays, though ... Perhaps Mitsuru has to be injected so as to make his natural electromagnetic field (everyone has one) interfere with the glasses' ability to manifest energy fields?

that sounds good and extremely scientific lolz.

[Aebliss]

that sounds good and extremely scientific lolz.

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^; Hmmm ... That could have some amusing consequences over the following days, if the effects wear off slowly. "Asahina, go away, my cellphone keeps refusing to connect!" "Move further away, Asahina, I can't get online with you looming over me!" Asahina: "Ugu ... Uuuu ... How much longer must I be hated?"

[Furyofthewolves]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^;

With the amount of abuse that he goes through from Haruki? No Problem!

[Kaisos Erranon]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^;

Hey, we can use that in later novels, too.

[Itsuko]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^;

O.o well i dont think we want to do that.....

[Itsuko]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^; Hmmm ... That could have some amusing consequences over the following days, if the effects wear off slowly. "Asahina, go away, my cellphone keeps refusing to connect!" "Move further away, Asahina, I can't get online with you looming over me!" Asahina: "Ugu ... Uuuu ... How much longer must I be hated?"

the consequences sound funny, it would be funny to incorporate it into all of this

[kaura117]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^; Hmmm ... That could have some amusing consequences over the following days, if the effects wear off slowly. "Asahina, go away, my cellphone keeps refusing to connect!" "Move further away, Asahina, I can't get online with you looming over me!" Asahina: "Ugu ... Uuuu ... How much longer must I be hated?"

This is so perfect, I have to support it. =D

[ClockWorkAngel]

It also means turning poor Mitsuru into an organic jamming beacon. ^^; Hmmm ... That could have some amusing consequences over the following days, if the effects wear off slowly. "Asahina, go away, my cellphone keeps refusing to connect!" "Move further away, Asahina, I can't get online with you looming over me!" Asahina: "Ugu ... Uuuu ... How much longer must I be hated?"

You must support it :)

Also the cover is looking fantastic, it would be funny if it was binded, though I'm sure that problems might occur.

[Furyofthewolves]

You must support it :)

Also the cover is looking fantastic, it would be funny if it was binded, though I'm sure that problems might occur.

You can always print out all the pages of the finished volume 1 and bind it for your own use:D

[Kang Seung Jae]

About 2/3 of the last 20 pages were just spam.


Seems like I have to clean up the house from now on....

[DJ_RockmanX]

About 2/3 of the last 20 pages were just spam.


Seems like I have to clean up the house from now on....

Yoroshiku, head of the secret police.

[CatzCradle]

You know, if Mitsuru's butler costume is twisted a little to resemble Tuxedo Mask's outfit, namely by adding those angular spectacles, he could shoot the Mitsuru Beam from its lenses. And for different beams, he could pop in different lenses, just as Mikuru was supposed to put in different contacts.
Mitsuru could even (be ordered to) pull the aforementioned glasses from his pocket and flip them around his fingers before putting them on in a badass manner. (Of course we know he'd fumble it.)

I think a screenshot of Mitsuru wearing a tuxedo mask costume battling against Yuuki exists. I know I saw it, I'm not crazy dammit!
Regarding concert clothes, how about this?
http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1205655033753.gif

[Kaisos Erranon]

Regarding concert clothes, how about this?
http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1205655033753.gif

If that necklace had a heart on it, I think I'd die of moe.

[Cat Megex]

If that necklace had a heart on it, I think I'd die of moe.

What color heart?

[Itsuko]

I think a screenshot of Mitsuru wearing a tuxedo mask costume battling against Yuuki exists. I know I saw it, I'm not crazy dammit!
Regarding concert clothes, how about this?
http://sos-dan.com/img/src/1205655033753.gif

wow kyonko looks so cute

[Kagedanji]

I must now watch idly by as none of my ideas contribute to the project.

[ClockWorkAngel]

Ahh grow up :p. It happens to all of us, my rewrite just gunna be the base (If I'm lucky) for Kaisos' eventually rewrite.

We could make Mitsuuru all phantom of the opera ish

[Kaisos Erranon]

What color heart?

Pink. Like Cutey Honey's necklace.

Yeah, I'd die.

[Kagedanji]

Kyon saying honey flash with her flat tone of voice would be hilarious.

Kyon: Honeeey furashou~...

Haruhiko: PUT MORE ENERGY INTO IT DAMMIT!

[Kang Seung Jae]

I think this is an accurate statement:


Kyonko is the manifestation of ponytail moe.

[Furyofthewolves]

I think this is an accurate statement:


Kyonko is the manifestation of ponytail moe.

Awww just a statement? Why not the Definition?:D

[kaura117]

I think this is an accurate statement:


Kyonko is the manifestation of ponytail moe.

More accurately, Kyonko is the platonic ideal of ponytail moe.

[Kagedanji]

Because Chiaki has already claimed "Screw-off"-Attitude Moe.

[Kang Seung Jae]

More accurately, Kyonko is the platonic ideal of ponytail moe.

Why platonic?

[kaura117]

Why platonic?

"Platonic idealism is the theory that the substantive reality around us is only a reflection of a higher truth." Therefore, all other ponytail moe girls are only a reflection of the higher truth that is Kyonko.

[Furyofthewolves]

"Platonic idealism is the theory that the substantive reality around us is only a reflection of a higher truth." Therefore, all other ponytail moe girls are only a reflection of the higher truth that is Kyonko.

Why not just use "Kyonko defines ponytail moe" for all the laypeople?

[Kang Seung Jae]

"Platonic idealism is the theory that the substantive reality around us is only a reflection of a higher truth." Therefore, all other ponytail moe girls are only a reflection of the higher truth that is Kyonko.

Oh, "platonic idealism".


I was thinking in the sense of "platonic love".

[Kagedanji]

Wait, wouldn't one of the characters of Guilty Gear who used a ponytail to kick ass be the holder of that title?

[Discreet]

Wait, wouldn't one of the characters of Guilty Gear who used a ponytail to kick ass be the holder of that title?

No. No. No. No.

[kaura117]

Why not just use "Kyonko defines ponytail moe" for all the laypeople?

Because I have a word fetish, shaddup. :p

[CatzCradle]

Someone once said:
So Haruhi has turned out to be Kyondere. Itsuki is Kyonsexual and Kyonko seems to be darudere. Why is it that SuzuHaru is spawning so many new terms I wonder?

[Furyofthewolves]

Wait, wouldn't one of the characters of Guilty Gear who used a ponytail to kick ass be the holder of that title?

meh not if we use it as our definition.

[Kagedanji]

I'm finding it funny that we spend more time fanboying over our own works rather than completing our own works for other fanboys.

[kaura117]

I'm finding it funny that we spend more time fanboying over our own works rather than completing our own works for other fanboys.

That's the natural outcome when we have less than a dozen projects and about that many people working on it, I think- the rest of us just chatter.

[Furyofthewolves]

Or are just too lazy to move on with their next project. Like me :p

[Kang Seung Jae]

I'm finding it funny that we spend more time fanboying over our own works rather than completing our own works for other fanboys.

The H-Doujinshi program is nearly complete. I need to get it translated into Korean and send it off to my potential artist for an overlook.

[Cat Megex]

Because I have a word fetish, shaddup. :p

What about a word moe?

[Kang Seung Jae]

What about a word moe?

Moe is a more general word than fetish.

[kaura117]

Moe is a more general word than fetish.

Huh, thought it as the other way around, actually. "Moe" implies the addition of cuteness as a criteria. "Fetish" can simply apply to a level of attraction.

That said, a girl with a sexy voice and capable of explaining the nuances of platonic idealism? nosebleed

[CanadaAotS]

I dislike the wiki format, but I'll go take a peek and stick in all my italics (and freaking proper spacing, that shit's important) and bolds and whatnot later.

For now, *@$ing integration with ##@$ing logarithms and *@#(ing exponentials.
JINTOR TELL ME, integrate 3^(x^2-x+1) from 0-1
BUAHAHAHHAAHA
And yes, integration is an evil evil thing.
...does indeed cause my fangirl side to squeal of happiness...
The term you're looking for is Squee (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squee) ;)
BUSINESSMAN GUNSLINGER SPIRIT GUN
Maybe if you post it 20 more times it will become true.
It's a clear parody. If you want a lawyer to make sure it stands up to court, sure, go ahead. But I'm fairly certain it falls under parody laws. We just have to, say, not sell it for profit.
Yeah. God I so want one...
About 2/3 of the last 20 pages were just spam.


Seems like I have to clean up the house from now on....
You do realize you're probably the only person immune to the CRACK?
Wait, wouldn't one of the characters of Guilty Gear who used a ponytail to kick ass be the holder of that title?
Hey how 'bout that Bridget. She's pretty hawt ain't she?
The H-Doujinshi program is nearly complete. I need to get it translated into Korean and send it off to my potential artist for an overlook.
Seriously?! If there is any pics you have or what not, please PM me a link to them! :D
EDIT: I just reread this and understood it better xD you're speaking about the script right? lol. Good job anyways!

[Furyofthewolves]

JINTOR TELL ME, integrate 3^(x^2-x+1) from 0-1
BUAHAHAHHAAHA
And yes, integration is an evil evil thing.


Acctually Integration is not evil... Its the concept of calculus.

And now back on topic... I just noticed that because of this:

[B][COLOR=RoyalBlue]
Something on the illustrations for all the Suzumiya Haruhi volumes:

1. The cover features one character.
2. There are three color illustrations per volume that are based off elements from the said volume.
3. The last color illustration, the prologue flap, always features Asahina-san the mascot.
4. All lineart illustration take up one page.


EDIT: Some of the volumes feature long chapter (such as Editor in Chief, volume 8). We will address those as need arises.

my wonderful volume 1 cover of Kyonko and Haruki is now invalidated:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

I like it so much tho....

[Kaisos Erranon]

my wonderful volume 1 cover of Kyonko and Haruki is now invalidated:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

Those are Oni's rules. I don't care, and I don't think RmX does either.

[CrowKenobi]

my wonderful volume 1 cover of Kyonko and Haruki is now invalidated:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

I like it so much tho....Nah, just ignore that, it's too good to throw away! :D

:cool:

[ClockWorkAngel]

Sometimes rules can be ignored :). Provided that the work is good; there' no question about it, I don't think anyone would care really :p

[Furyofthewolves]

All good then! Now I shall attempt to find pics that I can use on the other covers, or attempt to recreate some of the original illustrations with my (questionable(for now)) drawing skills!

[Discreet]

Seriously, screw those rules. I wouldn't mind if there was a picture for every scene.

*hint hint* *wink wink*

[Furyofthewolves]

Seriously, screw those rules. I wouldn't mind if there was a picture for every scene.

*hint hint* *wink wink*

I already have an idea for the 4th volume, where im thinking of using this pic:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5862/507978mix2ap2.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=507978mix2ap2.jpg)

without the background of his face of course

[Kagedanji]

Hey how 'bout that Bridget. She's pretty hawt ain't she?


YOU'VE GOT A GAY. o_o

[CanadaAotS]

YOU'VE GOT A GAY. o_o
AHAHAHAHA. Damn you dodged the Trap.

@Furyofthewolves hey, you went and learned how to vector recently right? I don't suppose you could forward whatever site tutorial you used to learn to me, could you?

I just finished Volume 1 of the novels. Yes I suck for not having read them already, but oh well lol. On to Volume 2!

[Kagedanji]

My crack senses tingled.

[kaura117]

AHAHAHAHA. Damn you dodged the Trap.

@Furyofthewolves hey, you went and learned how to vector recently right? I don't suppose you could forward whatever site tutorial you used to learn to me, could you?

I just finished Volume 1 of the novels. Yes I suck for not having read them already, but oh well lol. On to Volume 2!

I've only read vol 4 to completion, and skimmed the rest. Mainly because reading novels off a computer monitor is an eye-watering affair, and no US publisher's released a translation yet. ;_; I want my dead tree pulp!

[DJ_RockmanX]

Acctually Integration is not evil... Its the concept of calculus.

And now back on topic... I just noticed that because of this:



my wonderful volume 1 cover of Kyonko and Haruki is now invalidated:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8470/seitenkancovervol1wb1.png

I like it so much tho....

Those are Oni's rules. I don't care, and I don't think RmX does either.

Nah, just ignore that, it's too good to throw away! :D

:cool:

I agree with Kaisos and Crow, especially because of how awesome the cover is.

But Oni is one to stick to his guns as well.

Just churn out a bunch of covers and we'll see what works. :D

[ClockWorkAngel]

Save a tree, read through the internet which consumes electricity which involves the burning of fossil fuels, which are unrenewable forcing miners to clear more forests to find mines. :D

Reading the novels will help you understand this project better, if only for the novelty of saying you've read the novels.

Motivations fading, I'm still debating if I shoudl start doing actual rewrites rather than genderbending it :/

[Kaisos Erranon]

I've only read vol 4 to completion, and skimmed the rest. Mainly because reading novels off a computer monitor is an eye-watering affair, and no US publisher's released a translation yet. ;_; I want my dead tree pulp!

So you want a story about Miss Suzumiya searching for space people, future men, and paranormal powered people with her merry SOS Gang?

Seriously, please, don't say that. I never ever want to see the novels licensed, ever. They'll utterly butcher them, censor them, and release about 1 every 5 years.


I just finished Volume 1 of the novels. Yes I suck for not having read them already, but oh well lol. On to Volume 2!

...Why haven't you read the novels yet? Read them now! Now, before interest rates fail!

[Furyofthewolves]

@CanadaAotS I just fiddled around with layers at first, since those were very intuitive. But the rest i looked at this sketch to vector drawing of a dragon (http://kalaalog.com/2007/10/11/dragon-sketch-to-vector-art/) tutorial.

[DJ_RockmanX]

snip


Don't bring it in here Kaisos.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Don't bring it in here Kaisos.

Sorry. Gah, I just hate licensing...

[kaura117]

So you want a story about Miss Suzumiya searching for space people, future men, and paranormal powered people with her merry SOS Gang?

Seriously, please, don't say that. I never ever want to see the novels licensed, ever. They'll utterly butcher them, censor them, and release about 1 every 5 years.



...Why haven't you read the novels yet? Read them now! Now, before interest rates fail!

Christ, you make the entire US publishing industry sound like fail. Which it doesn't. I'm not talking about Baen Books or any of the standard english dub corporations to pick it up. If a group like, say, HarperTorch can successfully translate the Discworld series across dozens of languages and cultures without sacrificing the integrity of Pratchett's stories, the same can be done for a Japanese story to an English audience.

[ClockWorkAngel]

@Kaisos we can all relate to that! Though it'd be great to have a hard copy, lisenced stuff rarely delivers the desired quality.

I'm going to produce a full rewrite and a partial rewrite, tell me which one is better when I'm done :/

[Furyofthewolves]

He might have been thinking about 4kids when he wrote that lol

[kaura117]

He might have been thinking about 4kids when he wrote that lol

Well, that I have no disagreements with. 4kids can go bugger itself in the arse with a telephone pole.

[CanadaAotS]

Save a tree, read through the internet which consumes electricity which involves the burning of fossil fuels, which are unrenewable forcing miners to clear more forests to find mines. :D

Reading the novels will help you understand this project better, if only for the novelty of saying you've read the novels.

Motivations fading, I'm still debating if I shoudl start doing actual rewrites rather than genderbending it :/

Motivation you say!?
ClockWorkAngel! Don't believe in yourself, believe in me who believes in you!
Your's will be a rewrite that will pierce the heavens!

And if GAR doesn't motivate you enough there's always yuri...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1027/4809c23crn5.png

EDIT: Mission was a success. :cool:

[ClockWorkAngel]

My motivation has returned greater than ever XD.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Christ, you make the entire US publishing industry sound like fail. Which it doesn't. I'm not talking about Baen Books or any of the standard english dub corporations to pick it up. If a group like, say, HarperTorch can successfully translate the Discworld series across dozens of languages and cultures without sacrificing the integrity of Pratchett's stories, the same can be done for a Japanese story to an English audience.

That's not what I meant.

I can't see a bigger, more intelligent company picking up an anime-styled light novel from Japan, though. Not many big publishers are going to take it seriously, so someone like Viz would get it.

Sure, it's an amazing series, but animesque stuff is a niche market here. It's not gonna get a good, professional translation from HarperTorch.

(And they'd drop the honorifics anyway. Sigh...)

He might have been thinking about 4kids when he wrote that lol

Bandai's subs for the Haruhi DVD's actually. And Viz's slow, butchered Shakugan no Shana novel translations.

[Furyofthewolves]

Although as far as translations are concerned... the subtitles for anime that i get at chinese malls are 10x worse... considering they attempt to translate names too

[Kagedanji]

Motivation you say!?
ClockWorkAngel! Don't believe in yourself, believe in me who believes in you!
Your's will be a rewrite that will pierce the heavens!

And if GAR doesn't motivate you enough there's always yuri...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1027/4809c23crn5.png

EDIT: Mission was a success. :cool:


I NEVER GET PEOPLE TO DO THIS FOR ME! Wtf?!

[kaura117]

That's not what I meant.

I can't see a bigger, more intelligent company picking up an anime-styled light novel from Japan, though. Not many big publishers are going to take it seriously, so someone like Viz would get it.

Sure, it's an amazing series, but animesque stuff is a niche market here. It's not gonna get a good, professional translation from HarperTorch.

(And they'd drop the honorifics anyway. Sigh...)



Bandai's subs for the Haruhi DVD's actually. And Viz's slow, butchered Shakugan no Shana novel translations.

...oh, god, how did I forget Viz. Yeah, they'll probably take it up instead, the bastards.

(the honorifics thing is unfounded, though- a decent publisher does go out of the way to preserve cultural idiosyncrasies like that, if only to preserve the atmosphere)

I guess the only recourse is to buy another stack of paper and figure out how the heck I'm going to print out BT's translation in novel format...

[DJ_RockmanX]

Bring your license bashing to the proper thread please.

[Kristen]

"Dear Diary,

Sigh... It's Sunday, it's a day off from school, and second year is just around the corner. Honestly, couldn't Haruki give us another day or two to just relax and stay in pajamas all day? Seriously, if I could go one day without having to wear a bra, it'd be a miracle.

So, today Haruki had the brilliant idea of taking us back to Tsuruya's mountain. Too many bad memories there. Honestly, why did he make the girls do all the work while he just sat around idly? Does he like seeing girls sweat that much? Wait... Could it be... That pervert! I'm going to slap him until his face starts bleeding next time I see him!

But, yeah. We went to that mountain and Haruki made us start climbing. It would have been fine, but did it really have to be today? Hiking with cramps is really a no go. Why haven't they invented some anti-period drug in the future, Minoru? Please, can I have some?

Well, diary, I'm sure I'll have lots to talk to you about tomorrow. Have to set up my April 1st prank and make sure it works perfectly. Who do you think would be better? Minoru or Yuuki? Ooh, or even better, how about Tsuruya? Haruki would throw a FIT with that.

Sincerely,
Kyon-ko"

[Kaisos Erranon]

...oh, god, how did I forget Viz. Yeah, they'll probably take it up instead, the bastards.

(the honorifics thing is unfounded, though- a decent publisher does go out of the way to preserve cultural idiosyncrasies like that, if only to preserve the atmosphere)

I guess the only recourse is to buy another stack of paper and figure out how the heck I'm going to print out BT's translation in novel format...

Or you could just read little bits at a time.

I never have your problem, so...