The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Furyofthewolves]

Seems like entropy is taking a toll even on me.



Must reorganize the data.

You can't, You can never decrease the amount of entropy in a system:p

[DJ_RockmanX]

*cough*

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31405

Not quite the same.

That's been more of the philosophical discussion stuff, and that's why the thread's not so applicable to the discussion that's derailed this thread too many times.

[kaura117]

You can't, You can never decrease the amount of entropy in a system:p

Nah. The IDE clearly has a workaround for the second law of thermodynamics. Actually, its ability to manifest and close pocket realities at will attests to this.

[Cat Megex]

Well, in terms of the genderbending project, it'd have to be "The Physics of Koizumi Itsuko" then~

Heh...good point.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Not quite the same.

That's been more of the philosophical discussion stuff, and that's why the thread's not so applicable to the discussion that's derailed this thread too many times.

It's still about the physics behind the series. I think that's good enough.

[DJ_RockmanX]

It's still about the physics behind the series. I think that's good enough.

Not really at the same angles as you guys are approaching the discussion though.

Unless you just wanna get the thread renamed. :heh:

[Cat Megex]

You can't, You can never decrease the amount of entropy in a system:p

Never in a closed system. In an open system, yes, it is possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_entropy Blah. It no longer has that thing about entropy in closed and open systems....

Nah. The IDE clearly has a workaround for the second law of thermodynamics. Actually, its ability to manifest and close pocket realities at will attests to this.

I'm of the opinion that they just modify the entropy of some random, unoccupied area of space to account for that (of course, it would be one that is far distant from any other forms of life, just to be safe).

[kaura117]

Never in a closed system. In an open system, yes, it is possible.



I'm of the opinion that they just modify the entropy of some random, unoccupied area of space to account for that (of course, it would be one that is far distant from any other forms of life, just to be safe).

I disagree on account of the necessity to modify entropy in the first place... but as Danchou's said, this isn't the thread for it.

On something more in-line with the subject, something I keep on meaning to ask, but always either got sidetracked or sidetracked myself before I could ask...

...what's a RomCom?

[Cat Megex]

I disagree on account of the necessity to modify entropy in the first place...

Well, not so much "modify" as "move around".

...what's a RomCom?

Romantic Comedy.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I disagree on account of the necessity to modify entropy in the first place... but as Danchou's said, this isn't the thread for it.

On something more in-line with the subject, something I keep on meaning to ask, but always either got sidetracked or sidetracked myself before I could ask...

...what's a RomCom?

Romantic Comedy.

Like Clannad or School Rumble.

[kaura117]

Romantic Comedy.

Aaaahhh... okay. Thanks.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Romantic Comedy.

Like Clannad or School Rumble.

Clannad's just a romance/drama/school life/thing with a bunchload of comedy.

School Rumble is an actual RomCom, with the ridiculous love polygons and misunderstandings and whatnot.

[Cat Megex]

Aaaahhh... okay. Thanks.

Welcome. Also, post #6777! Just one digit away from the jackpot....


And also...I've stayed up about an hour later than I planned, which is especially bad considering I have a test on induction and Maxwell's Laws tomorrow...x_x

[kaura117]

Clannad's just a romance/drama/school life/thing with a bunchload of comedy.

School Rumble is an actual RomCom, with the ridiculous love polygons.

Hee. Love polygons. Awesome to read about. :D

...sucks to be anywhere near a real one. :twitch:

[Jintor]

*grumbles* If I had it my way it'd be a ZomRomCom.

[kaura117]

*grumbles* If I had it my way it'd be a ZomRomCom.

...a Zombie Romantic Comedy.

:dots:

[Cat Megex]

*grumbles* If I had it my way it'd be a ZomRomCom.

...Just how would you do a zombie romantic comedy?

[Tunafishisgood]

Hee. Love polygons. Awesome to read about. :D

...sucks to be anywhere near a real one. :twitch:


I think it's about time to take the love polygon to a new level and make it 3D

"last word of the day...me go Zz now..;)"

[Jintor]

Don't try and imagine it, it'll make your head explode.

[Cat Megex]

I think it's about time to take the love polygon to a new level and make it 3Diemensioal.

Love...POLYHEDRON. Awesome. And crazy. ...Like Konata. >_>

[Furyofthewolves]

Don't try and imagine it, it'll make your head explode.

Well... not if Haruhi/Haruki made them all zombies....

[kaura117]

I think it's about time to take the love polygon to a new level and make it 3D

"last word of the day...me go Zz now..;)"

...nah, that's easy enough to do with just 4 people. You just bring one up on the z-axis instead of treating it as part of the 2-dimensional graph. This way, you avoid having any crossed lines, see?

...why am I talking about this again?

[Furyofthewolves]

...nah, that's easy enough to do with just 4 people. You just bring one up on the z-axis instead of treating it as part of the 2-dimensional graph. This way, you avoid having any crossed lines, see?

...why am I talking about this again?

Too much science?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Ok. THIS is definitely CRACK.

Great job Jintor. :rolleyes:

[Jintor]

Unlike most, I earn my crack.

[Furyofthewolves]

Meh... the CRACK has now tired me out... time to sleep.

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Kang Seung Jae]

Let's talk something that is relevent.

Okay, what cosplays do you want for Project Parallel Connection? Here's my order:


1. School Uniform
2. Maid
3. Bunny Suit
4. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
5. Swimsuit


Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[kaura117]

Unlike most, I earn my crack.

Crack, brain-meltingly obtuse trivia... 's all the same to me~

[kaura117]

Let's talk something that is relevent.

Okay, what cosplays do you want for Project Parallel Connection? Here's my order:


1. School Uniform
2. Maid
3. Bunny Suit
4. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
5. Swimsuit


Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Well, how many pages of wank material do we want to add in? One costume a page sounds optimal, so...

[Kang Seung Jae]

Well, how many pages of wank material do we want to add in? One costume a page sounds optimal, so...

I was thinking one or two pages per costume, except for the School Uniform (after all, that's the starting point :heh:)

[Ithekro]

So much went by so fast.

First: "1. The cover features one character"
Make the Genderbent versions all have two characters on the cover.

Dango-san: It is not about who wins or loses, it is about the project being completed.

Third: Leave the Fleet names alone. There is a reason they are generic, it is a simple high school programmed game. The program takes the persons name and adds "Fleet" to the end. The Computer Society Fleets had cool-ish names because they used made up names instead of their own. Haruhi's Forces used there own names (except for Kyon) because she just entered them in. At least she didn't use Subordinate #1, #2, #3, and #4 and her own name. Haruki would use the same naming convention. It is more egotistical to name a force after yourself. Like naming cities after yourself. It also keeps it simple for Haruki so he doesn't have to remember useless made up names. Over-complicated will make you dead in 5v5 games.

Four: Did we actually finish the debate over Mitsuuru's special weapon for Book 2?

Five: Will the thread ever focus on any subject long enough to complete it and then move on to the next topic?

[Jintor]

Let's talk something that is relevent.

Okay, what cosplays do you want for Project Parallel Connection? Here's my order:


1. School Uniform
2. Maid
3. Bunny Suit
4. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
5. Swimsuit


Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I really like the name.

And foresee hotness in the works.

Hmmm... I think you've covered most of my wants already. Nurse, mayhaps?

[Kang Seung Jae]

Five: Will the thread ever focus on any subject long enough to complete it and then move on to the next topic?

We're nearly finished with the H-Doujinshi. All we need to do is decide on the cosplays, translate the script into Korea/Japanese, and get an artist to work on it.

[kaura117]

I was thinking one or two pages per costume, except for the School Uniform (after all, that's the starting point :heh:)

Well, yes, but what about overall? If the artist is willing to do 10 pages of smut, omitting the x pages for the school uniform scene, for example, that's six costumes total (school uniform + 1 costume/2 pages). In which case, we have one more slot open, and therefore I advocate Sexy Lingerie. =D

[Jintor]

Third: Leave the Fleet names alone. There is a reason they are generic, it is a simple high school programmed game. The program takes the persons name and adds "Fleet" to the end. The Computer Society Fleets had cool-ish names because they used made up names instead of their own. Haruhi's Forces used there own names (except for Kyon) because she just entered them in. At least she didn't use Subordinate #1, #2, #3, and #4 and her own name. Haruki would use the same naming convention. It is more egotistical to name a force after yourself. Like naming cities after yourself. It also keeps it simple for Haruki so he doesn't have to remember useless made up names. Over-complicated will make you dead in 5v5 games.

Haruki's gonna call them something coolers, because it's way more awesome.

Members of the SOS Brigade are going to GAR even if it kills them.

[kaura117]

So much went by so fast.

First: "1. The cover features one character"
Make the Genderbent versions all have two characters on the cover.

Dango-san: It is not about who wins or loses, it is about the project being completed.

Third: Leave the Fleet names alone. There is a reason they are generic, it is a simple high school programmed game. The program takes the persons name and adds "Fleet" to the end. The Computer Society Fleets had cool-ish names because they used made up names instead of their own. Haruhi's Forces used there own names (except for Kyon) because she just entered them in. At least she didn't use Subordinate #1, #2, #3, and #4 and her own name. Haruki would use the same naming convention. It is more egotistical to name a force after yourself. Like naming cities after yourself. It also keeps it simple for Haruki so he doesn't have to remember useless made up names. Over-complicated will make you dead in 5v5 games.

Four: Did we actually finish the debate over Mitsuuru's special weapon for Book 2?

Five: Will the thread ever focus on any subject long enough to complete it and then move on to the next topic?

#4: Tuxedo Mask-esque sunglasses/mask, I believe.

#5: ...don't hold your breath... >_>

[DJ_RockmanX]

So much went by so fast.

First: "1. The cover features one character"
Make the Genderbent versions all have two characters on the cover.

Whatever works. It's Oni's rules, not mine.

Dango-san: It is not about who wins or loses, it is about the project being completed.

Quoted for truth.

Third: Leave the Fleet names alone. There is a reason they are generic, it is a simple high school programmed game. The program takes the persons name and adds "Fleet" to the end. The Computer Society Fleets had cool-ish names because they used made up names instead of their own. Haruhi's Forces used there own names (except for Kyon) because she just entered them in. At least she didn't use Subordinate #1, #2, #3, and #4 and her own name. Haruki would use the same naming convention. It is more egotistical to name a force after yourself. Like naming cities after yourself. It also keeps it simple for Haruki so he doesn't have to remember useless made up names. Over-complicated will make you dead in 5v5 games.

Finally some sense on the issue. :heh:

Four: Did we actually finish the debate over Mitsuuru's special weapon for Book 2?

I think an Urameshi Yuusuke Spirit Gun will do the job.

Five: Will the thread ever focus on any subject long enough to complete it and then move on to the next topic?

Good luck with that.

Haruki's gonna call them something coolers, because it's way more awesome.

Members of the SOS Brigade are going to GAR even if it kills them.

What, so Haruki demands that fleet names are customizable?

#4: Tuxedo Mask-esque sunglasses/mask, I believe.

That's not Haruki's vision of manliness at all... :twitch:

[kaura117]

That's not Haruki's vision of manliness at all... :twitch:

I know. =/ I'm just reporting what I remembered from earlier. I'm probably mistaken, though- it's your call, of course, Danchou.

[Kang Seung Jae]

I really like the name.

Actually, about the title...... Do you want the title in kanji (平行 關係), or katakana?

[DJ_RockmanX]

I know. =/ I'm just reporting what I remembered from earlier. I'm probably mistaken, though- it's your call, of course, Danchou.

I only have a little bit more sway over Kaisos than the rest of you guys. :heh:

Otherwise I'm just keeping this thread under control. :D

Actually, about the title...... Do you want the title in kanji (平行 關係), or katakana?

Katakana makes us look so much more sophisticated. :p

[kaura117]

I only have a little bit more sway over Kaisos than the rest of you guys. :heh:

Otherwise I'm just keeping this thread under control. :D

Well, I do agree that the spirit gun's more in the spirit of things.

[Jintor]

What, so Haruki demands that fleet names are customizable?

No, Haruki will input the names but in the actual clubroom he'll name them the Kyonko Confederacy or whatever. And Kyonko will follow his names. (Subconsciously or not... "I tapped a few keys and ordered what was apparently now called the 'Kyonko Confenderacy' to engage their... hyperdrives? Or something? Whatever.")

[Kang Seung Jae]

Why is it that whenever I bring up a subject, it gets quiet?

[DJ_RockmanX]

No, Haruki will input the names but in the actual clubroom he'll name them the Kyonko Confederacy or whatever. And Kyonko will follow his names. (Subconsciously or not... "I tapped a few keys and ordered what was apparently now called the 'Kyonko Confenderacy' to engage their... hyperdrives? Or something? Whatever.")

Just as either of the Kyons might say: "Eh. Whatever."

It's not all that important anyway.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I only have a little bit more sway over Kaisos than the rest of you guys. :heh:

What's that supposed to mean?

[kaura117]

Why is it that whenever I bring up a subject, it gets quiet?

Well, if you scroll up, you'll see that a bunch of people's already signed off for the night. Supposedly.

And it also might be that most of us don't have a preference either way, between kanji and katakana.

However, I disagree with Danchou- kanji lends more to sophistication.

[DJ_RockmanX]

However, I disagree with Danchou- kanji lends more to sophistication.

I should have put that in ""s, along with /sarcasm. :heh:

[kaura117]

I should have put that in ""s, along with /sarcasm. :heh:

Ah... I did wonder a bit... >_>

[Kang Seung Jae]

Where should we have the first action?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/room_ape80.png

[Ithekro]

Before the battle begins, the screen shows the stats for each fleet. It's actually just the names and what types of vessels each fleet has. The fleets' vessel counts and positions were classified.

Starting with the commanding fleet, the Computer Group's fleet names were <Dies Irae>, <Equinox>, <Lupercalia>, <Blindness>, and <Muspelheim> respectively

Even the names sound so revolting, I have the impression that they had a lot of free time on their hands making up such names. However, it seems I wasn't the only one who wasn't interested in how they come up with their names.

"How annoying! From the right side we'll just call them Enemies A, B, C, D, and E. The commanding fleet is A."

Haruhi swiftly gave the enemy fleet their new names, and completely discarded the egotistical sounding names. Speaking of which, if you could do that, why not change the name for my <Kyon Fleet> as well?


I have no idea why. But I see Haruki going for simple just like Haruhi. Simple works.

[CanadaAotS]

Dear Diary,
...
Seriously, if I could go one day without having to wear a bra,
...
ChrissieXD why do your entries make me think ecchi things? lol
The CLANNAD game, for one. (Hahaha, Sunohara and Tomoya. Best ambiguously gay duo, ever.)
SUNOHARA END!
REZOMBIEEEEE!
Nope. Dango wants Kyon-ko in more clothes for winter instead of short sleeves and swimsuits, so I have no choice. :p


Well, at least I know where I'm at in terms of the storyline now. :p
Doesn't make sense, the last entry said April 1st was tomorrow haha. ON TO SWIMSUIT SEASON!
...
Meanwhile, on the H-Doujinshi front: Dang, it's hard trying to substain the impact when translating into Korean/Japanese.
Keep up the good work!
Let's talk something that is relevent.

Okay, what cosplays do you want for Project Parallel Connection? Here's my order:


1. School Uniform
2. Maid
3. Bunny Suit
4. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
5. Swimsuit


Any suggestions would be appreciated.
All of them. I assume there's going to be about the same amount of h-pages as "story" pages, that'd make it about 24 pages long. Pretty standard. 12 for story 12 for H. MaidGothic Lolita Maid, Bunny Suit, Apron (JUST an apron), Swimsuit, Nurse, and Neko-Shoujo.
Actually, about the title...... Do you want the title in kanji (平行 關係), or katakana?
Can I see the Katakana version? Also, don't know why but this Kanji 關 looks weird to me >< lol.
(just in apperance, no idea what it actually means).

Btw guys, the thread earlier was moving as fast as I could read it. I was literally incapable of catching up. I mean shit, 10 pages would appear within an hour... I remember when it'd take a whole 12 hours to get 10 pages :<.

In after 3 new pages have appeared.
EDIT:
>> inb4
Fixed. Thank god for the slow down. I was thinking "WHAT HAS SCIENCE DOWN?!" in a very literal sense.
All puns intended.

EDIT2:
Where should we have the first action?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/room_ape80.png

First action? First location for H-Scene?
I assume locations can be anywhere in the town they live in?

Maybe to save the artist some grief we could have 2 costume changes per location except the last location, must be bunny suit @ the clubroom.

[kaura117]

I have no idea why. But I see Haruki going for simple just like Haruhi. Simple works.

Hm. Actually, I see him giving the enemy fleet simple designations, but his own fleet grandiose names.

We are, after all, talking about a fairly strong case of megalomania here.

Edit: For the locations... um... it has to finish in the club room, so... huh. Well, the only thing I can think of is that it'd be appropriate if it started out in Kyon's own bedroom~

[DJ_RockmanX]

I have no idea why. But I see Haruki going for simple just like Haruhi. Simple works.

Hm. Actually, I see him giving the enemy fleet simple designations, but his own fleet grandiose names.

We are, after all, talking about a fairly strong case of megalomania here.

Thinking about this more gave me thoughts of what constitutes as the kind of GAR Haruki embodies.

I'm thinking he's along the lines of the bombastic and overzealous types, in which case I actually would have to side with Jintor's original suggestion.

But this is such a small point that has no bearing on the real plot whatsoever...

Where should we have the first action?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/room_ape80.png

For the locations... um... it has to finish in the club room, so... huh. Well, the only thing I can think of is that it'd be appropriate if it started out in Kyon's own bedroom~

I'm with kaura. From Kyon's bedroom to the clubroom, with various points of interest in between.

[Kang Seung Jae]

All of them. I assume there's going to be about the same amount of h-pages as "story" pages, that'd make it about 24 pages long. Pretty standard. 12 for story 12 for H. MaidGothic Lolita Maid, Bunny Suit, Apron (JUST an apron), Swimsuit, Nurse, and Neko-Shoujo.

TWO maids? I think that's a bit too much....

Good stuff on the Nurse and Neko-Shoujo. So, the list will be (in order of action):


1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Neko-Shoujo
6. Nurse
7. Bunny Suit

Any more suggestions?



Can I see the Katakana version? Also, don't know why but this Kanji 關 looks weird to me >< lol.
(just in apperance, no idea what it actually means).

Well, the Katakana would be "Parallel Connection." I need someone to actually find out how to write that in Katakana :p

[Ithekro]

Haruhi's probably just as much a megalomanic as Haruki (possibly more so I would think). Haruki might actually be less of a megalomaniac and more "A man must fight to be a man" Harlock style. The GAR-ness of Kamina seems to be less megolmanic that most of the 1970s and 1980s villians where Haruhi is about the old-timers equal. The old times would name a bomb or weapon after their leader, but most didn't seem to care for overly glorious sounding names, as long as the enemy was crushed. A GAR type wouldn't even care about the names, just kicking the enemy where it hurts. Who has time to think of pointless names when you need to crush the enmey?

True it isn't important, but given that it is a simple game, all your name choices would come back with: <Name, New Name of Imperial Region, "Fleet">. That is just how the Computer Society programmed it. So <Kyon Confederacy Fleet> or <Nagato Noosphere Fleet>

[kaura117]

TWO maids? I think that's a bit too much....

Good stuff on the Nurse and Neko-Shoujo. So, the list will be (in order of action):


1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Neko-Shoujo
6. Nurse
7. Bunny Suit

Any more suggestions?



Well, the Katakana would be "Parallel Connection." I need someone to actually find out how to write that in Katakana :p

Based off the order of appearance...

1. Bedroom.
2. Living room
3. School Cafeteria
4. Poolside
5. Rooftop
6. Nurse's Office
7. Clubroom

[DJ_RockmanX]

TWO maids? I think that's a bit too much....

Good stuff on the Nurse and Neko-Shoujo. So, the list will be (in order of action):


1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Neko-Shoujo
6. Nurse
7. Bunny Suit

Any more suggestions?

We'll think of something eventually. :D

Edit: Look how fast kaura responded. :heh:

Well, the Katakana would be "Parallel Connection." I need someone to actually find out how to write that in Katakana :p

パラレル　コネクシオン (parareru konekushion)

That work?

[Kang Seung Jae]

Based off the order of appearance...

1. Bedroom.
2. Living room
3. School Cafeteria
4. Poolside
5. Rooftop
6. Nurse's Office
7. Clubroom

The third location was unexpected..... Perhaps somewhere else?

[CanadaAotS]

Possible locations (other then bedroom and clubroom)
(AT SCHOOL)
Classroom 1-5
School Rooftop
Indoor Pool
Nurses Office
and/or Principals Office
and/or Okabe-sensei's Office (for some lulz haha)

[kaura117]

The third location was unexpected..... Perhaps somewhere else?

...Kyon's kitchen? Or dining room? It's an apron, after all.

[Kang Seung Jae]

パラレル　コネクシオン(parareru konekushion)

That work?

Bingo.


Ran a search on those, and it's confirmed.


Edit the OP to include this is.

[CanadaAotS]

TWO maids? I think that's a bit too much....

Good stuff on the Nurse and Neko-Shoujo. So, the list will be (in order of action):


1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Neko-Shoujo
6. Nurse
7. Bunny Suit

Any more suggestions?[/COLOR][/B]

No not two maids. 1 maid. But it must be Gothic Lolita Maid. There are no substitutes, especially when we're dealing with a DFC Kyonko

EDIT4PICTURE:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/f/fd/180px-Wikipe-tan_GothLoli.png
It's wikipedia-chan, so disregard the puzzle piece things in her hair. lol.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Edit the OP to include this is.

'K. I'm out for now. Tell me if there's anything else that needs to be added later.

[kaura117]

No not two maids. 1 maid. But it must be Gothic Lolita Maid. There are no substitutes, especially when we're dealing with a DFC Kyonko

...

I endorse this.

[Kang Seung Jae]

No not two maids. 1 maid. But it must be Gothic Lolita Maid. There are no substitutes, especially when we're dealing with a DFC Kyonko

:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:


Why do people like Gothic Lolita Maids......



Okay, so first maid costume is that purple one that Mikuru wore, and the second is a black GLM? I would like to put in a TRADITIONAL Maid Costume if possible.

[kaura117]

:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:


Why do people like Gothic Lolita Maids......



Okay, so first maid costume is that purple one that Mikuru wore, and the second is a black GLM?

Oh, wait, huh. For some reason, I forgot about Mikuru's maid costume.

Sorry, pal, I have to take back that endorsement. It's a good (read: hawt) idea, but Mikuru's maid outfit fits the context better.

[CanadaAotS]

:eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:


Why do people like Gothic Lolita Maids......



Okay, so first maid costume is that purple one that Mikuru wore, and the second is a black GLM? I would like to put in a TRADITIONAL Maid Costume if possible.

Do we really need 2? :<
* CanadaAotS wants GLM but knows that Purple Maid Outfit is canon

[Kang Seung Jae]

Do we really need 2? :<
* CanadaAotS wants GLM but knows that 2 maids is overkill.

If it's only one.....

*Draws a line*


There is no GLM. We could add an omake pic at the end.....

[CanadaAotS]

There is no GLM. We could add an omake pic at the end.....

Deal.


Reading Volume 2 atm,

Kyon: Yes, Nagato, Koizumi and Asahina are an alien, esper and time traveller.
Haruhi: lolwut? STOP UTTERING SUCH NONSENSE!

The irony is overwhelming :twitch::D

[asteron]

342 pages? When this thread was just 40 pages I decided to take the plunge and read through it... but now, a couple of weeks later, this thread is monstrously huge!

I kind of wish there was an RSS feed of the latest greatest fanworks (fan art, voice overs, animation, fanfiction, rewrites, etc).

Congrats on the #1 haruhi thread.

[kaura117]

Eeexcellent. Thanks to Kang, it actually seems like we're making progress... >_>

[beanbrew]

How about GL like Yuki in the PS2 game?

[kaura117]

Deal.


Reading Volume 2 atm,

Kyon: Yes, Nagato, Koizumi and Asahina are an alien, esper and time traveller.
Haruhi: lolwut? STOP UTTERING SUCH NONSENSE!

The irony is overwhelming :twitch::D

Makes absolutely perfect sense, though. Even Haruhi knows what "gullible" means, and whether or not it's in the dictionary... >_>

Of course, Kyon nonetheless has that key to the nuclear code, eh?

[Forceflow]

The third location was unexpected..... Perhaps somewhere else?

Shrine.

Wheres my miko costume. :cool:

3 coffees and 5-6 moar to go.

[kaura117]

Shrine.

Wheres my miko costume. :cool:

3 coffees and 5-6 moar to go.

...oh god.

Miko costume.

Those loose white sleeves and the red skirt...

This... this is a better moe than apron.

[dkellis]

He sort of treats her like an older sister, despite being techically older than she is.

Of course, he also has kind of a severe crush on her, so...

I can see it happening, but I'm not sure if it's likely to happen at that time. I don't think Kyonko would mind, but has Mitsuru actually asked her if he can call her "Kyon-nee-chan", or is he just doing it out of the blue unilaterally? If the latter, has Kyonko made any mention of it?

I've been fairly busy (shuttling parents to and from airport) these past few days, so I haven't been able to really go over the story in as much detail as I hoped.

I admit, given how boys these days are sooo looking for another "mother," it's in line with current trends of an older guy actually treating a younger girls as a "onee-chan".

There's that rather famous line in Genshiken which states that people with actual little sisters (whom they grew up with) will generally not have imouto-moe.

I'm assuming that it applies to all variations of sibling-moe. I know that it applies to oneechan-moe, since I have an older sister (by one year).

I'm not sure about the "younger girl as oneechan" thing though. The closest I've encountered in fiction is in the later Phoenix Wright games, where Franziska (age eighteen) is a bit too obsessed with defeating her "little brother" Edgeworth (age twenty-five). In other words, I could just be missing out.

Was Thesaurus.com fun?

Actually I came up with that on my own.

This is why I don't usually flame others, since nobody can take me seriously.

Seriously, the latest animes I've watched were SuzumiyaHaruhiNoYuutsu, LuckyStar and Genshiken. Genshiken, damnit.

You hang out on TVTropes too much.

(Yes, I know. Pot, kettle, etc.)

/EDIT Other stuff: When Day of Sag rolls around, I'd like to think up better names than "Kyon Fleet" and "Haruki Fleet".

Haruki would probably name the fleets after their own names, since he wants simple yet egotistical. In other words, as per canon.

Kyonko would probably try to think of something suitable, and give up, going for "AAAA" or some such.

Mitsuru would probably name it something Cute. Somehow. Perhaps "Hello", or "Player", or "Snow White", or something that comes across as quietly and yet desperately hopeful. (Also, common trope: name it after a foodstuff.)

Itsuko might, if character limits allow, name hers something like Frank Exchange Of Views (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_%28The_Culture%29).

Yuuki probably wouldn't care at all.

In the end, the SOS Brigade will probably follow Haruki's lead. But it'll be interesting to see what they come up with on their own.

As for the Computer Club, since we're dealing with effectively deep fangirls here, they'd probably name their fleets after their favourite (bishounen) characters, whether from their anime or from their Real Life (see: Real Person Fic). Haruki probably wouldn't get the references, and Kyonko would likely just make a passing mention without specifics.

[kaura117]

Itsuko might, if character limits allow, name hers something like Frank Exchange Of Views (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_%28The_Culture%29).

You... You read Iain M. Banks?!

I'M NOT ALONE!!!

[Kang Seung Jae]

Shrine.

Wheres my miko costume. :cool:

3 coffees and 5-6 moar to go.

*Nosebleed*


I'm adding that.

[Jintor]

*Nosebleed*


I'm adding that.

Bah, imho the apron only thing was far smexier.

If I get both I'm still happy though.

Dkellis: You'll have to help me with the Computer Club's fleet names. I'm not good with the cultural references...

[Kang Seung Jae]

Bah, imho the apron only thing was far smexier.

If I get both I'm still happy though.

I said "Add", not "Replace".

[kaura117]

I said "Add", not "Replace".

My god...

...this doujin is made of win.

[Jintor]

I hope you add a disclaimer at the front.

"Ok, ok, this story doesn't make any sense. It's H, ok? Get to the fapping. D:"

By the way Kang, your artist draw good. D:

[kaura117]

I hope you add a disclaimer at the front.

"Ok, ok, this story doesn't make any sense. It's H, ok? Get to the fapping. D:"

By the way Kang, your artist draw good. D:

...

...people actually read an h-doujin for the plot?

Shouldn't the "18+" logo that hypothetically goes in the front somewhere make that obvious?

That said, I have work tomorrow (working during spring break... ;_; ), so 'night all.

[Kang Seung Jae]

I hope you add a disclaimer at the front.

"Ok, ok, this story doesn't make any sense. It's H, ok? Get to the fapping. D:"

By the way Kang, your artist draw good. D:

CanadaAotS already wrote the script, which is LOGICAL for once.


Also, we'll see about the artist.....

[Forceflow]

I hope you add a disclaimer at the front.

"Ok, ok, this story doesn't make any sense. It's H, ok? Get to the fapping. D:"

By the way Kang, your artist draw good. D:

What percentage of ecchi doujins actually have a plot? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PWP) It has a semblance of one which is pretty good already.

Currently suffering from. (http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_problem_with_wikipedia.png)

[Jintor]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]CanadaAotS already wrote the script, which is LOGICAL for once.


No, dude, you've got a Deus Sex Machina in there. There's no way it's logical.

[SFX2501]

Wow this thread has grown so big since the last time I read it (~1 week ago) theres so much to read and look at :D. Congrats on being the #1 Haruhi thread and possiblly the #1 fan project I've ever seen for the Suzumiya Haruhi series.

I was wondering If I could join in on the fun, I would be a graphical artist guy and probably work with furyofthewolves on the covers and some other stuff.

Heres a quick incomplete mock of a possible cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/GSDestiny/th_Picture1.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/GSDestiny/Picture1.png)

Im usually a lurker but this project has grabbed my interest so much Im probably going to post a lot more now :twitch:

[Forceflow]

*Nosebleed*


I'm adding that.

Oh, one more idea.

One of the locations needs to be a place with people. Thus Kyonko has to be silent throughout the 'deed'.

Best bet would be the poolside with the school mizugi, probably in a shower stand to make the situation believable.

/Inner pervert

[Kang Seung Jae]

Oh, one more idea.

One of the locations needs to be a place with people. Thus Kyonko has to be silent throughout the 'deed'.

Best bet would be the poolside with the school mizugi, probably in a shower stand to make the situation believable.

/Inner pervert


.........................

*Poccessing Malfunction*

却下

[Jintor]

It's hawt. I like it.

[Kang Seung Jae]

It's hawt. I like it.

And how are we to draw that within 1~2 pages?

[DJ_RockmanX]

342 pages? When this thread was just 40 pages I decided to take the plunge and read through it... but now, a couple of weeks later, this thread is monstrously huge!

I kind of wish there was an RSS feed of the latest greatest fanworks (fan art, voice overs, animation, fanfiction, rewrites, etc).

Congrats on the #1 haruhi thread.

W00t.

Wow this thread has grown so big since the last time I read it (~1 week ago) theres so much to read and look at :D. Congrats on being the #1 Haruhi thread and possiblly the #1 fan project I've ever seen for the Suzumiya Haruhi series.

I was wondering If I could join in on the fun, I would be a graphical artist guy and probably work with furyofthewolves on the covers and some other stuff.

Heres a quick incomplete mock of a possible cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/GSDestiny/th_Picture1.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v383/GSDestiny/Picture1.png)

Im usually a lurker but this project has grabbed my interest so much Im probably going to post a lot more now :twitch:

W00t again.

Sweet cover by the way.

[Jintor]

And how are we to draw that within 1~2 pages?

You tell me. You're the doujinmaker.

You don't really need to set up too much of the quietness thing anyway. I mean, if they're in a public-ish location, you can just draw them... going at it... and Kyonko just needs to be, you know, muffled.

I feel dirty just thinking those thoughts, let alone writing them. I'm not cut out for this.

[Forceflow]

And how are we to draw that within 1~2 pages?

reference the start of Beat Angel Escalayer Episode 2. It was, like done within 2-3 minutes.

...

I'm not myself right now. Too much caffeine...

[Red225]

You guys get off topic with faaar too much stuff O.o

If Itsuko gets to name the fleets after Culture ships, she really needs to call Mitsuuru's one I said, I've got a big stick

:D


Hmm... EDITJOB?!

I stared at the scene again, and really, I wanted to take a step back, try to make sense of what’s happening. But that won’t work will it? Because it’s so painfully obvious what has happen. Keiichi-san the bright and cheerful host which we’ve learned to appreciate had been stabbed, her dress now stained with blood. I wondered for a moment what I would have looked at, if Nagato hadn't saved me from Ryo. The silence within all of us is mutual, are we waiting for someone else to speak or just too afraid to say something ourselves. Wouldn’t it be a bit of both? Arakawa-san, the old maid had been standing in shock for all of this, she was the first to move forward to the body. She moved toward her lying mistress' side and checked her pulse and gave us a cool stern statement.
"She has moved on..."
As I heard her voice trailed off to silence I asked myself has she practiced this line before? It was recited so slowly and with such composure, and wasn’t it so obvious? Perhaps we were all waiting, hoping for something better like “She’s alive” or “Thank god, someone call an ambulance quick!” couldn’t you have given us a little bit more hope, at least let us pretend that the woman known as Keiichi-san was still alive if only so that she could die surrounded by people who cared about her?
I had gripped the door frame and pulled myself up. Koizumi gave me an uneasy face, but pulled herself up quickly. She was silently doing this, never leaving sight of our former host. Perhaps a personal sentimental that I couldn’t understand? Koizumi went towards Keiichi-san and knelt by her opposite Arakawa-san, she stared at the lifeless body and her bitter expression was probably just a fraction of the sadness that she felt; watching her generous relative lying motionless on the floor.
Koizumi's voice carried a tint of sadness,
“We should leave, we’ve disturbed the crime scene for too long.”
As she said this; her face and tone reminded me nothing of the once cheerful and anxious girl who had ranted about a murder mystery only hours ago.
"Mitsuuru-kun, are you alright?"
Haruki asked, as he turned his face towards the downed upperclassman. Asahina-san stared at our brigade chief with both disbelief and regret. He didn’t really want to answer, his mind was probably preoccupied about why this would be happening at all. Haruki frowned as he stared at Asahina-san’s face.
“Do you need help to get up Mitsuuru-kun?”
As he offered his outstretched hand, Asahina-san shook his head slowly and pulled himself up. As he took a final look at the scene he had turned and moved into the hallway. Haruki soon followed him slowly, he didn’t turn his head. for once his sense of calmness and sense of shame was apparent, perhaps that meant somewhere inside his happy-go-lucky heart had hid itself from the world.
“Yuuki, let’s go alright?”
Has Haruki ever had such a quite voice? I had always imagined that he couldn’t say anything much without amplifying it so that anyone could hear it. No, I shouldn’t be asking those types of questions at this type of situation. As I watch them leave on their own slow paces, Koizumi getting up to leave as well, she didn’t look at me and only walked slowly in a half-dazed way.
“Come out soon alright Kyon?”
I stared at the scene again. Mori-san had been standing where he was for quite a while, as he gone to Arakawa-san’s side they both paid their respects to their former master. They would stand back up in unison Arakawa-san going out first while Mori-san had looked on me with a nearly teary eyes.
“We should go, I’ll help you to your room.”
Up till now Yutaka-san still remained missing while the storm outside continued. The rain pelted the windows gently while the occasional thunder boomed followed by the flashing lights. But it’s happening again and again, have we gotten used to it, or rather are we more focused on the sudden terror we had just experienced? I had entered my room to find Koizumi waiting there for me.
"Hey Kyon.” she said, “Don’t you wanna talk about what just happened?”
"What do you mean?" I asked. Koizumi's normal smile suddenly returned to her mouth.
"Haven't you realized? This is now a genuine closed circle."
That was obvious, you had explained that to me a while ago. Besides wasn’t it a closed circle hours ago? When this typhoon had began?
"This looks like a murder."
It doesn’t look like a suicide, but does it have to be? I still want to believe that we are all innocent.
"Besides, the room was totally sealed off."
“Are you sure?”
I asked her. She gave a nod
“We can go check if you want to make sure, but all the locks were clearly locked.”
She had explained to me that the locks on the windows required two levers to be pushed down or something else, I didn’t really question the authenticity of her testimony. she wouldn’t need to lie, and I would check the room if I could later anyways.
"Does it make sense that the suspect commits his act and leave safely in a room that can't be accessed at all?"
No it doesn’t make sense, but neither does this whole situation at all. Couldn’t you just skip the questions and tell me what you think? I doubt this is a time to be smiling off everything and playing around. Why don’t just go off and question the suspect yourself?
"You're right," Koizumi agreed with me, "We'd better ask Yutaka-san about this."
"Please wait at Suzumiya-san's room first, I'll be coming over as well later."
I watched her move out of my room and stared at the ceiling idly. “Wait at Haruki’s room eh? Doing that just makes everything make sense doesn’t it?” am I saying this to myself, or rather am I trying to pray to some all powerful deity in the sky? Either way no one is answering me.


I knocked on the door.
"Who is it?"
"It's me."
The door opened slightly, Haruki open the door slightly, on his face still lingered the recently obtained sadness.
"Where's Koizumi-chan?"
“She isn’t here yet?”
He gave a sad shake and invited me in.
Asahina-san laid on one of the beds motionless opening up his eyes for a few seconds and closing them as in deep thought. Beside him was Nagato-san, his presence didn’t provide any sense of comfort but no doubt his mere presence meant the security of the location. Please, take care of us Nagato-san I can’t really depend on anyone else right now.
"Hey, what do you think?"
Haruki said, was he talking to me?
"Think of what?"
"I mean Keiichi-san's death. This is a murder incident, right?"
If you look at it in one way it would seem like it. Keiichi-san had no reason to kill herself to us the few days we’ve spent with her seemed cheerful and full of the desire to live life to the fullest. But a murder happening inside a sealed room in an island trapped in the middle of a storm had seemed so unrealistic. It was too elaborate, no one could really plan this out and perform the required complex and perfected procedures, could anyone be capable of doing something like this?
"Yea, I guess it is.."
A moment of silence, making me ask myself “This again?” do we really have nothing to say. As if just to break this silence Haruki opened his mouth,
"Hmm......"
Haruki closed his eyes for a second and sat on the bed, the suddenness shook Nagato-san and Asahina-san slightly. He rubbed his temples as if in deep thought.
"How can this be? I never expected things to develop this way."
He had said to himself. Shouldn’t I be saying that? After all weren’t you the one who was anticipating this for the whole trip? The person that wanted something to happen instead of just enjoy what was already happening?
"But, I never thought it would come true!"
Haruki made an angry face but quickly changed his expression. Was he worried about someone commenting on how he was acting? Or was he afraid of seeing of looking at the expression he just made?
I stared at Asahina-san who stared at the ceiling with wide eyes.
"He’s been like that for a while, when I asked him if he was alright he just told me that needed to think, I never thought he would blank out like this.”
Haruhi told me. Asahina-san closed his eyes again, while Nagato-san stared at the wall.
A sealed room murder incident on a lone island within a storm. Would this ever happen for a second time? No should it have even happen the first time? Is it because we’re the SOS brigade and not some Occult Study Group, or Mystery Novels Association? Searching for mysterious events is exactly the reason Haruki founded the SOS Brigade, so in truth, encountering this kind of incident perhaps embodies the founding principles of the SOS Brigade. Of course, it's a whole different story when we're actually experiencing it. This had exceeded all expectations; to our dismay. Couldn’t we just be left with the happiness that filled our hearts the last few days ago?
"Man, this is so frustrating......"
Haruki leaped off the bed and started to pace around the room
He had reminded me of a child who had pulled a prank which had gone too far and found himself in more trouble than he intended. Was this more problematic for him than for me? Was he more surprised than me? What happen to that anticipation Haruki? Did it float away just after you found out that it shouldn’t have been there at all? I begin asking myself “What should we do?” but rather shouldn’t I be asking “Can we do anything?”
I lay myself on the empty bed, I turn my face to see the dazed Asahina-san and the still Nagato-san. I wanted to escape this reality. This quite scene interrupted routinely by the sound of Haruki’s feet. This would be complete if not for one thing.
“I wonder where she is.”
“Koizumi-chan? Didn’t you say she would be waiting here for you?”
“Yea, but she’s late, she’s been late for too long.”
“We should go look for her. We just can’t stand by idly.”
He said this somehow with a matter-of-fact voice, but his eyes reminded me of that which would appear after being challenged by someone. Yes, brimming with determination our brigade chief declared,
"I need to confirm something. Kyon, come with me."
I really don't want to just leave my little brother alone here.
"Yuki's here as well, so don't worry! Yuki, have the door locked, and don't let anybody in, you understand?"
Nagato-san stared at us both and nodded calmly.
"Understood."
He replied without change of voice, his unfaltering mind and tone reminded me that he wasn’t a human and Keiichi-san might have been a string of number for him. Though I’m not sure that he would so heartless to be like this. But I can’t really say that can I? After all I’m not sure if he has a heart in the first place. His colourless eyes reached mine and he gave me a slight nod as if only I could see it.
I felt calmed somehow though, nothing bad could happen to us right? After all Nagato-san wouldn’t let us walk into a dangerous situation without informing at least me about it. I told myself that everything was alright, reminding myself about Nagato-san reliability in spite of any danger.
"Let's go, Kyon."
Haruki grabbed my wrist, though his grip was slightly weaker than before.
"Just where're we going?"
"To Keiichi-san's room, of course! I didn't observe it closely just now, so I need to check again."
I remember the scene again. Keiichi-san lying on the floor with a blood stained knife in her chest, the crimson red liquid spread across her dress. This wasn’t a scene that would be appreciated with more viewings.
Haruhi walked and said,
"Then, we need to find out where Yutaka-san is. She may be still in the building, besides......"
In such a serious situation, nothing could really explain his absence, only two things really come to mind.
I was dragged by Haruki, who climbed the stairs and said,
"Either Yutaka-san is the killer and has escaped the scene; or Yutaka-san is also a victim......right?"
"Yeah, but if Yutaka-san isn't the killer, then it'll become troublesome."
"No matter who did it, it's all annoying for me......"
Haruki looked at me diagonally,
"Kyon, in this mansion, besides the Tamaru brothers, there's only Arakawa-san and Mori-san left, and the five of us. Could the suspect be one of them? I don't want to suspect my own brigade, and I don't want to hand them over to the police."
He sounded very calm saying that. He really did care about us and trusted us, though I’m not sure if it would be under sincere kindness or rather because of his Brigade chief principles. Asahina-san could never commit a murder, Nagato-san would have just removed Keiichi-san so that she never existed at all. But when I though of Koizumi, this happy girl, I still couldn’t figure it out. She would have no reason right? She said Tamaru-san was her distant relative, compared to total strangers like us, she seemed so much closer to her than us, maybe something that we wouldn’t know about?
"No."
I knocked my head softly.
Koizumi had never struck me as anything along the lines of insane murderer, she wouldn’t do something as stupid as committing a murder just to satisfy the conditions for a closed circle. She wasn’t an idiot and of course not a murderer. She wouldn’t act like that all.
We don’t need anyone else with a strange thinking pattern, after all we have Haruki. Though by just looking at this situation, I can’t really confirm that with such confidence now, unlike the days that were before this dreadful night. I’m asking myself “Is this really happening?” I wonder which part of me is still hoping?


A couple of minor him/her gender edits, added a bit of Kyon having flashbacks to Ryo's attack, and trying to fix one plot-point - it seems a lot more out of character for Kyon to be so overly worried about Mitsuuru's wellbeing. Original Mikuru is next to completely physically helpless compared to original Kyon, but Kyonko wouldn't be physically stronger than Mitsuuru (probably). Given that, there wouldn't exactly be the same protective feeling that Kyon has towards Mikuru. So I changed it to Kyonko's little brother (I forget what the japanese name for that is, though :/). She'd definitely be protective over him.

Alternatively, you could have Mitsuuru offering to go out on his own to help look for Itsuko, but THEN Kyonko worries about his safety and tells him to stay where he is, with Yuuki.

“We should go look for her. We just can’t stand by idly.”
He said this somehow with a matter-of-fact voice, but his eyes reminded me of that which would appear after being challenged by someone. Yes, brimming with determination our brigade chief declared,
"I need to confirm something. Kyon, come with me."
"Ah, wait! I'll help search!" Aah, Asahina-sempai, it's a nice thought, but it's dangerous to go alone, and I didn't want to leave my little brother alone.
"Could you stay here and protect my brother? Please? Yuki, have the door locked, and don't let anybody in, you understand?"

[CanadaAotS]

And how are we to draw that within 1~2 pages?

Either cut one of the costumes, cut a page here and there with the various costumes (or part of the story... with some reorganization a page could possibly be cut) or, the best/hardest option, add more pages :D

We have approximately 15-12 pages for 6 (?) costumes. But the clubroom scene should have more then average, since it'll be one of the more important scenes.

EDIT: @ Red225 - btw, Otouto = Little brother :)

[Kang Seung Jae]

You don't really need to set up too much of the quietness thing anyway. I mean, if they're in a public-ish location, you can just draw them... going at it... and Kyonko just needs to be, you know, muffled.

I feel dirty just thinking those thoughts, let alone writing them. I'm not cut out for this.

I think SM is a little over the top.....

[Forceflow]

I think SM is a little over the top.....

Doesn't really need to be muffled.

You just need her leaning against the wall with one hand covering her mouth. And if you need to go further from there, Kyon can forcibly kiss her to stop her from moaning out loud.

/EDIT: I blame the internets.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Doesn't really need to be muffled.

You just need her leaning against the wall with one hand covering her mouth. And if you need to go further from there, Kyon can forcibly kiss her to stop her from moaning out loud.

I still can't imagine Kyon being that rough......


I admit that I am conservative when it comes to hentai stuff.

[Forceflow]

I still can't imagine Kyon being that rough......


I admit that I am conservative when it comes to hentai stuff.

Not exactly being rough. Its more like Kyon did that cuz unless he stopped her from yelling out, people would notice and she/he probably won't live it down.

Situation probably can be compared to an ecchi version of the 'snow white' incident.

[Jintor]

Doesn't really need to be muffled.

You just need her leaning against the wall with one hand covering her mouth. And if you need to go further from there, Kyon can forcibly kiss her to stop her from moaning out loud.

/EDIT: I blame the internets.

That's what muffled means.

I think you're thinking of gagged. Which is S&M.

[CanadaAotS]

I still can't imagine Kyon being that rough......


I admit that I am conservative when it comes to hentai stuff.

If this was H-Scene 3 or 4... well, I don't think they'd have much inhibition left.
That'd make it work anyway.

Edit:
No, dude, you've got a Deus Sex Machina in there. There's no way it's logical.

Completely logical sex without any kind of 'easy' intervention would take too long to set up. imo.

Unless you can come up with a better set up. I'd be I'm all for it.

I'm guessing what Kang means is that it's more logical, on average, then say, "HEY KYONKO!" "HEY BIG BROTHER!" "LETS HAVE SEX!" "K!"

:p

Edit2: Guys, my 1650+ image torrent is officially successful. Currently uploading to someone in Japan xD

[Forceflow]

That's what muffled means.

I think you're thinking of gagged. Which is S&M.

Well, when the word muffled was mentioned I immediately thought about 'muffler', hence the S&M inference. Oh well, same idea so alls well ends well.

lol. We're having a mature, logical and pretty detached discussion over p0rn. I compare this with our previous crack sessions. :heh:

[Jintor]

Completely logical sex without any kind of 'easy' intervention would take too long to set up. imo.

Unless you can come up with a better set up. I'd be I'm all for it.

I'm guessing what Kang means is that it's more logical, on average, then say, "HEY KYONKO!" "HEY BIG BROTHER!" "LETS HAVE SEX!" "K!":p

No, of course, I totally agree with you there. I'm just saying that there's still no working logic to it.

H stuff requires shortcuts.

[CanadaAotS]

No, of course, I totally agree with you there. I'm just saying that there's still no working logic to it.

H stuff requires shortcuts.

And when it's a Haruhi related doujin, Yuki is generally the shortcut of choice xD Or in this case, the Nagato's.

They can make anything sound plausible, including the fact that pseudo-fraternal twins must have sex in various locations while wearing various cosplays for the sake of the universe.

Have I ever mentioned how awesome Yu/uki is?

Edit: I also tried to take care of character traits. Another thing that a lot of h-doujins do is go completely out of character :p

[Jintor]

I hope you've added enough infodump to obscure the fact that that's what they're doing.

Having you state it like that, it sounds silly and ridiculous. ; D

[Kang Seung Jae]

Completely logical sex without any kind of 'easy' intervention would take too long to set up. imo.

Unless you can come up with a better set up. I'd be I'm all for it.

I'm guessing what Kang means is that it's more logical, on average, then say, "HEY KYONKO!" "HEY BIG BROTHER!" "LETS HAVE SEX!" "K!"

No, of course, I totally agree with you there. I'm just saying that there's still no working logic to it.

H stuff requires shortcuts.

I had a slightly higher opinion on our work..... something along the lines of "if we went all out we might actually get a decent series."

[Jintor]

I had a slightly higher opinion on our work..... something along the lines of "if we went all out we might actually get a decent series."

When the objective was to get Kyonko/Kyon sexing it up in cosplay in various locations... no. Impossible.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Current list of cosplays:

1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Miko
6. Neko-Shoujo
7. Nurse
8. Bunny Suit

Should we finalize it as this?

[JDGBOLT]

Well, finally managed to finish what I was trying to accomplish, a menu to be able to choose which volume and which chapter, and have it easily modifiable. The menu itself is dynamic, no worrying about having to regenerate all the volumes/chapters/whatever.

To add a chapter to the visual novel engine, you simply would add an entry to the v1Chapters/v2Chapters/whatever variable, I kept it simple with Chapter1/Chapter2/whatever, I might go in and try go modify it to be able to have different chapter names in the menu. And you would have a different rpy file that you could stick that particular chapter's dialogue inside of, have a label vx_Chapter1_intro in the top of it, and when you, the player, clicks that particular button, it will go right to that chapter, so adding chapters is pretty dang simple now.

I put in lots of bogus chapters just to check that the style worked and everything, it's a simple menu at the moment, though I could do various things to it if I wanted to. Something like 6-8 hours later, of reading through python docs/renpy docs, it's for the most part complete, as far as the logic inside of it. I was initially going to have a huge mess of code with entries for each chapter, that you would have to copy and paste and everything, but I knew I could do better than that.

A little rusty at programming, so took a little while to remember a lot of the concepts, and I've never tinkered with python before, so a lot of the constructs were just slightly different. But, hey, it works! :D. I currently have the game resolution at 1024x640, which is a 16:10 resolution for a 1024x768 monitor. I figured that most everyone should be able to do at least 1024x768 by now, though if that needs to be changed let me know, better to change it now than later and have to resize all the images. Anyway, a pic of the menu, as well as the python code in case you so desired to look at it:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6560/seitenkanvnmenusuccesspl5.png
By jdgbolt (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/jdgbolt) at 2008-03-31


# You can place the script of your game in this file.

init:
# Declare images below this line, using the image statement.
# eg. image eileen happy = "eileen_happy.png"

# Declare characters used by this game.
$ e = Character('Eileen', color="#c8ffc8")
$ volumeSelected = ""
$ volumes = [ '1', '2', '3', '4', '5' ]
$ v1Chapters = [ 'Prologue', 'Chapter1', 'Chapter2', 'Chapter3' ]
$ v2Chapters = [ 'Prologue', 'Chapter1' ]
$ v3Chapters = [ 'Prologue', 'Chapter1', 'Chapter2', 'Chapter3' ]
$ v4Chapters = [ 'Prologue' ]
$ v5Chapters = [ 'Prologue', 'Chapter1', 'Chapter2', 'Chapter3' ]

# The game starts here.
label start:

python:
ui.text( "Please select a Novel Volume and Chapter", xalign=0.5, yalign=0.05, size=42, style='default' )
while True:
ui.hbox(xalign=0.1, yalign=0.15, yanchor='top', xanchor='left')
ui.vbox()
for i in volumes:
ui.textbutton( "Volume " + i, clicked=ui.returns( i ) )
ui.close()
if volumeSelected != "":
ui.vbox()
for i in range( int(volumeSelected) - 1 ):
ui.null(height=30)
for i in vXChapters:
ui.textbutton( i, ui.jumps( "v" + volumeSelected + "_" + i + "_intro" ) )
ui.close()
ui.close()
volumeSelected = ui.interact()
exec 'vXChapters = v%sChapters' % volumeSelected]


JDGBOLT

[Red225]

When the objective was to get Kyonko/Kyon sexing it up in cosplay in various locations... no. Impossible.

Seconding that. Anything piece of work that has two characters going to various places to have sex for [technobabble reason] is pretty damn Deus Sex Machina (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusSexMachina). I mean, come on, why the hell would having sex in various cosplay outfits fix the collapse of two universes? The H-story you have at the moment has nowhere near a decent plot.

[dkellis]

Current list of cosplays:

1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Miko
6. Neko-Shoujo
7. Nurse
8. Bunny Suit

Should we finalize it as this?

If the idea is for Kyon to boink Kyonko eight times in various outfits, I might waive my "no H whatsoever" rules to check out just what sort of snark either one might be making by number seven or eight.

[Kang Seung Jae]

H-story you have at the moment has nowhere near a decent plot.

At least it's decent enough for a 20-something page doujinshi :heh:

[JDGBOLT]

Sorry I temporarily flooded the topic, not used to using spoiler tags, didn't notice the syntax that they used, should work now. :heh:

JDGBOLT

[Kang Seung Jae]

If the idea is for Kyon to boink Kyonko eight times in various outfits, I might waive my "no H whatsoever" rules to check out just what sort of snark either one might be making by number seven or eight.

They'll probably make one at the last scene, in the clubroom.

[Jintor]

's cool, Bolt.

That's some dedication you have there. : D

[JDGBOLT]

I'm used to sitting at one problem for hours on end and working until I have something that is, in my mind, satisfactory/ideal. As I said, I use Gentoo Linux, and now have a mac install too. :heh:

JDGBOLT

[Forceflow]

Current list of cosplays:

1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Miko
6. Neko-Shoujo
7. Nurse
8. Bunny Suit

Should we finalize it as this?

*nurses a(nother) cup of coffee*

I think we've covered most of the more common fetishes for ecchi doujins. Maybe we should swap the postions of 'Maid' and 'Neko-shojo'. By that time they'll probably be into it and we'll have Kyonko calling Kyon 'goshujin-sama'. Which is part of the attraction of the 'Maid'.

[Red225]

They'll probably make one at the last scene, in the clubroom.

You mean they're not going to be making snarky comments through most of the scenes? That'd be the best bit!

EDIT: barring the actual bonking. Yeah, that too.

[CanadaAotS]

When the objective was to get Kyonko/Kyon sexing it up in cosplay in various locations... no. Impossible.

Agreed. Like I mention later in this post, near impossible to really get the cosplays to not sound like a total Deus Sex Machina. The technobabble reasoning was fairly weak, or so I feel.
But it made a great setup for Kyon's Pheonix Wright parody...


[Bottom Right]
Description: All you see are Kyon's hands splayed down on the table. They're shaking a bit.
Kyon: So what you're saying is...

[Bottom Mid]
Description: Moved up to Kyon's mouth... can you see what's coming?
Kyon: ... that girl-Kyon and I, who'll be dressed up in cosplays...

[Bottom Left]
Description: Kyon doing the Pheonix Wright objection pose, while pointing at Yuuki.
Kyon: WILL BE HAVING SEX, ALL IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS!!??
Yuuki: That is correct.



snip

Good friggen work. I'm truly amazed at how far the viscom project has come already... by just one guy to boot!
When the first novel's finished, we'll paste the bugger into your viscom program, add some backgrounds, some characters, and voila! :D

Seconding that. Anything piece of work that has two characters going to various places to have sex for [technobabble reason] is pretty damn Deus Sex Machina (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusSexMachina). I mean, come on, why the hell would having sex in various cosplay outfits fix the collapse of two universes? The H-story you have at the moment has nowhere near a decent plot.

Well for one thing, the cosplay outfits... ok I'll give you that. Totally Deus Sex Machina. I used my CRACK powers to make that happen because I want to see Kyonko dressed up. The fact that they have to have sex though, that was mostly thought out.
I swear. :heh:

Besides the fact that I'd like to think I did a good job on the dialogue and the character's, and the setting up phase is funny.

[Ithekro]

"Welcome to 'Late Night Haruki-ism'. All Kyonko H, all the time. No exceptions."

I'll be glad when its morning and we can return to the light novels.

[CanadaAotS]

You mean they're not going to be making snarky comments through most of the scenes? That'd be the best bit!

EDIT: barring the actual bonking. Yeah, that too.
If the idea is for Kyon to boink Kyonko eight times in various outfits, I might waive my "no H whatsoever" rules to check out just what sort of snark either one might be making by number seven or eight.

"Miko-Kyonko Scene"
Kyonko: What the hell? Now we're in a shrine, and I'm a shrine maiden?
*look over at Kyon, dressed as the priest*
Kyon: ... You don't even need to say anything.

And yeah, dkellis I think that would be a good idea too.
Kyon and Kyonko essentially -have- to have sex 8 times (I assume Nagato's will have to do a bit of data restructuring, for Kyon), so the last few scenes are going to be more about snarky comedy, while the first few will be "Omg we're having sex".

I agree with Kang from earlier. If the script is good enough, and we go all out, we could produce something that's actually quite decent :D

Edit:
"Welcome to 'Late Night Haruki-ism'. All Kyonko H, all the time. No exceptions."

I'll be glad when its morning and we can return to the light novels.
Hey, our project is just as serious. We can't have the light novels without our associated doujinshi! :)
Also, the writers of the light novels need to get their sleep at some point too :heh:

[Jintor]

This particular editor needs his H fix.

And has never been on the planning committee of a H-doujin before.

[CanadaAotS]

What do you guys think of this?

Some more snarky bits:
"The 4th or 5th sex scene"
Kyon: I just can't do this anymore. I'm not talking about any associated moral qualms, since obviously those are out the window...
*looks down at himself*
Kyon: ... it just won't go up anymore.
Kyonko: Ah well. We tried our best. At least if the universe ends I won't have to deal with Suzumiya anymore.
Kyon: Amen to that.
-Yuki appears. Begins data manipulation-
Kyon: Yuki what are you doing... Oh good lord.
Kyonko: It's... big again.
Kyon @ Yuki: What are you, some kind of Deus Sex Machina?
Yuki: If you mean a play on "Deus Ex Machina", as a convenient plot device to allow the smooth transmission of material from you to your analogue self, then yes. You could say that.
*Yuki leaves*
Kyon+Kyonko: ...


Yes, Kyon at some point has to accuse Yuki of being a Deus Sex Machina. It must be in the doujin! haha

[Jintor]

Does that translate to Korean well, though?

[Forceflow]

H-snip

/facepalm... in a good way

Thanks to you I now have a mental image of yuki biting down on Kyon's member to do data manipulation...

I'm so going to burn.

EDIT: forgot my other comments on the script. It looks decent, stuff that they might say. Is there a translation for deus ex machina in japanese?

[CanadaAotS]

/facepalm... in a good way

Thanks to you I now have a mental image of yuki biting down on Kyon's member to do data manipulation...

I'm so going to burn.

No. I'm going to burn.
I had an H-Doujin where that actually happened.
Translated in English even... god I wish I had my old doujin folder ;-;
Edit: The plot was something like "Kyon has been infected with a deadly data virus that can only be removed through various forms of sex" rather then biting though.

[Red225]

You also need random trivia from Kyon.

[random trivia reference to put in]

Lazarus Long, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Long) fictional character out of some of Robert Henlein's novels. He lived an extended life, and at one point was persuaded by his timetravelling descendants not to kill himself (out of boredom) by finding something he'd never done before, which was having sex with his opposite sex clone.
[/trivia]

More snark

Kyonko: You know, everything's driven by the subconscious desires of Haruki, right?

Kyon: You mean Haruhi.

Kyonko: Whatever. Well, doesn't that mean they think having sex with their opposite sex twin will fix the world?

*both pause*

Kyon: The cosplay's definitely from Haruhi's subconscious. Yeah.

[CanadaAotS]

Does that translate to Korean well, though?

No idea. I'd have to find out from Kang on that one.

I don't know what they do with the phrase "Deus Ex Machina" in Korean or Japanese...
If they it stays relatively intact as a phrase, Kang might be able to come up with some kind of word play or phonetic play that would make the phrase sound sexual, which would allow Yuki to reply accordingly.

Edit:
You also need random trivia from Kyon.

[random trivia reference to put in]

Lazarus Long, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Long) fictional character out of some of Robert Henlein's novels. He lived an extended life, and at one point was persuaded by his timetravelling descendants not to kill himself (out of boredom) by finding something he'd never done before, which was having sex with his opposite sex clone.
[/trivia]

More snark

Kyonko: You know, everything's driven by the subconscious desires of Haruki, right?

Kyon: You mean Haruhi.

Kyonko: Whatever. Well, doesn't that mean they think having sex with their opposite sex twin will fix the world?

*both pause*

Kyon: The cosplay's definitely from Haruhi's subconscious. Yeah.

This was actually kicking around in my head as well. Part of the reason they must cosplay, is because the gods will it.
The snark is looking so good to me right now... haha.

Edit2:
S'more snark
Kyon makes the Lazarus Long reference, and for once someone actually understands one of his trivia like comments. He even rejoices at the fact. Kyonko makes some kind of remark to burst his bubble like, "I'm probably the only person in a hundred mile radius who understands what you meant"

[Forceflow]

No. I'm going to burn.
I had an H-Doujin where that actually happened.
Translated in English even... god I wish I had my old doujin folder ;-;

.... Well we'll both burn. My brain somehow thought further and this rough extension of your script came out:

(yuki after chomping down on Kyon's member)

Yuki: There has been a marked decrease in the volume of bodily fluids being exchanged between you two. I estimate he will be unable to transfer an appropriate amount of fluid at the next location.

(Kyon winces and climaxes or whatever)

(Yuki wipes her face as *fluids* drip off her face)

Yuki: Data Manipulation complete. Fluid expulsion increased to a steady rate of 300% of normal. Safety Factor of safe universe separation increased to 0.85345224.

Kyon/Kyonko: .... (wind blowing sfx)

[Jintor]

You know, i really hope our artist is up to scratch. :D

[CanadaAotS]

You know, i really hope our artist is up to scratch. :D

Agreed haha. I almost feel sorry for him/her. Again, that's Kang's department. He's the man with the connections :cool:

[Forceflow]

If this works out its gonna be epic. But it also looks like an epic workload. :heh:

[JDGBOLT]

*snip*

Indeed, just got done uploading my changes to our subversion repository, also have the script for the prologue completed getting copied and pasted into the rpy script, though of course, a lot of juryrigging with pauses and other such things will be needed to make the thing read better, as well as putting in images and sounds. Will hopefully get some character artists at some point, for the moment going to just grab some fan art temporarily as placeholders. Already got the intro music from episode 2 also playing in the background, that sort of stuff is childs play compared to that menu I made, who knows, might have the preliminary directing of the prologue done by tomorrow, depends on how much time everything takes to fall into place, as well as consulting with Tunafishisgood and the like, since he was busy today, so mostly just worked on my own. But now, I think I'll need to get some sleep, worked for like 10+ hours today, time to call it a night, or very early morning in this case. :heh:

JDGBOLT

[CanadaAotS]

Indeed, just got done uploading my changes to our subversion repository, also have the script for the prologue completed getting copied and pasted into the rpy script, though of course, a lot of juryrigging with pauses and other such things will be needed to make the thing read better, as well as putting in images and sounds. Will hopefully get some character artists at some point, for the moment going to just grab some fan art temporarily as placeholders. Already got the intro music from episode 2 also playing in the background, that sort of stuff is childs play compared to that menu I made, who knows, might have the preliminary directing of the prologue done by tomorrow, depends on how much time everything takes to fall into place, as well as consulting with Tunafishisgood and the like, since he was busy today, so mostly just worked on my own. But now, I think I'll need to get some sleep, worked for like 10+ hours today, time to call it a night, or very early morning in this case. :heh:

JDGBOLT

Same. Good "very early morning" to you too, as I head off to bed...
Here's another crazy idea. We leak this visnov to the Japanese, and get them to add voices to it.
But have some interjections and stuff done.
Or the "daisuki" scene in lone island syndrome... heh :)

Anyway, Good night all! Time to knock off. I'm thinking by tomorrow night I'll have an overhaul edit done on the doujin script to add in the ideas we brought up tonight about snarky-sex, and some minor edits to the rest.

[Forceflow]

Same. Good "very early morning" to you too, as I head off to bed...
Here's another crazy idea. We leak this visnov to the Japanese, and get them to add voices to it.
But have some interjections and stuff done.
Or the "daisuki" scene in lone island syndrome... heh :)

Thats gonna involve a reverse translation which is probably more work than we can handle at this point of time; and if we don't run into Vodka Good, Meat Rotten (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheVodkaIsGoodButTheMeatIsRotten) problems.

Its an interesting idea though, just not at this time (we'll probably need at least the proluge and chpt 1 retranslated into jap).

[Kang Seung Jae]

Just a comment: I think we'll have to start writing for the H-Scenes as well.... We've got too much good material to waste.


*Starts backtracking and saving*




PS: It's 7:15 PM in Korea at the time of this writing, so no late night for me.

[Forceflow]

Hey.... thread name change...

I guess everything goes in here and nothings truely OOT from now on...

...was this really a good idea?

[xris]

I don't understand why the thread title was changed either. It might have been requested but I certainly was unaware of the request.

I shall PM kj1980 and DJ_RockmanX to try and find out.

Other than that, please continue as usual :)

It might have something to do with this post.

We really need a new thread. Something along the lines of "The Universe of Haruhi Suzumiya".

[Furyofthewolves]

I don't understand why the thread title was changed either. It might have been requested but I certainly was unaware of the request.

I shall PM kj1980 and DJ_RockmanX to try and find out.

Other than that, please continue as usual :)

It might have something to do with this post.

LOL it's really uber WTFness.... must have been the crack last nite

[Forceflow]

I don't understand why the thread title was changed either. It might have been requested but I certainly was unaware of the request.

I shall PM kj1980 and DJ_RockmanX to try and find out.

Other than that, please continue as usual :)

It might have something to do with this post.

Yeah but not changing the entire thread. We go waaayy off track too much as it is and mainly; only the topic keeps us focused. Plus we have way too much material, work and ideas in this thread to let it dissolve in anarchy right now.

[otai]

What do you guys think of this?

Some more snarky bits:
"The 4th or 5th sex scene"
Kyon: I just can't do this anymore. I'm not talking about any associated moral qualms, since obviously those are out the window...
*looks down at himself*
Kyon: ... it just won't go up anymore.
Kyonko: Ah well. We tried our best. At least if the universe ends I won't have to deal with Suzumiya anymore.
Kyon: Amen to that.
-Yuki appears. Begins data manipulation-
Kyon: Yuki what are you doing... Oh good lord.
Kyonko: It's... big again.
Kyon @ Yuki: What are you, some kind of Deus Sex Machina?
Yuki: If you mean a play on "Deus Ex Machina", as a convenient plot device to allow the smooth transmission of material from you to your analogue self, then yes. You could say that.
*Yuki leaves*
Kyon+Kyonko: ...


Yes, Kyon at some point has to accuse Yuki of being a Deus Sex Machina. It must be in the doujin! haha

Edit2:
S'more snark
Kyon makes the Lazarus Long reference, and for once someone actually understands one of his trivia like comments. He even rejoices at the fact. Kyonko makes some kind of remark to burst his bubble like, "I'm probably the only person in a hundred mile radius who understands what you meant"

Putting the Lazarus Long reference after the rejuvenation scene makes a very appropriate double entrende.

[otai]

Current list of cosplays:

1. School Uniform (Full Scale Scene)
2. Maid
3. Apron (you know.... in the kitchen?)
4. Swimsuit
5. Miko
6. Neko-Shoujo
7. Nurse
8. Bunny Suit

Should we finalize it as this?

You're only missing combat waitress and cheerleader from the canon. Well except the frog suit, which would miss the point of H. But 8 costumes is just the right amount i think.

[CanadaAotS]

I don't know why, but I just can't get neko-shoujo kyonko going "Nya~n" out of my head.

Good thing or bad thing? lol. I think my brain will brake has broken from cuteness overload.

Edit: hahaha ok, Neko-shoujo scene, Yuuki pops in just before and actually turns Kyonko into a neko-girl. So she'll have an actual tail and ears, and she won't be able to help but say "Nya~n" after all her sentences.

Kyon makes the appropriate snarky comment to which he gets scratched by Kyonko's claws hahaha.
Also, I could do without combat waitress since it's similar to the made outfit, but damn, Cheerleader... I don't think I want to give up anything on the list of 8 we have already. :p

[Tunafishisgood]

Are? so any updates on what actually happened to the thread title?

[Kaisos Erranon]

About the snark in the H-doujin... do we want to have it AFTER or DURING the sex? Because during the sex would be funnier.

Are? so any updates on what actually happened to the thread title?

Probably danchou...

I can see it happening, but I'm not sure if it's likely to happen at that time. I don't think Kyonko would mind, but has Mitsuru actually asked her if he can call her "Kyon-nee-chan", or is he just doing it out of the blue unilaterally? If the latter, has Kyonko made any mention of it?

It's her behavior towards him early on that does it. He starts clinging to her for support, and...

And I haven't had her make any comment about it yet. She thinks it's cute.

[Itsuko]

wow i missed a lot over one night. better catch up

[Itsuko]

does anyone know why the name if the thread changed??

[Furyofthewolves]

does anyone know why the name if the thread changed??

yeah... we went off topic by a lot

[Itsuko]

yeah... we went off topic by a lot

oh...i see

[Tunafishisgood]

yeah... we went off topic by a lot

off topic party last night:twitch:? I missed it :(

[DJ_RockmanX]

Continue the genderbending conversations. I'm trying to fix this mess. :heh:

[Ithekro]

I get the feeling DxM's comment was taking out of context, resulting in the name change. I believe the comment was to create a "new" thread with the "Universe" title, to hold everything else that wasn't related to the Genderbending theme of this thread.

Where were we before the H-scenes started early this morning? What section of the light novels are we working on perfecting?

[DJ_RockmanX]

I get the feeling DxM's comment was taking out of context, resulting in the name change. I believe the comment was to create a "new" thread with the "Universe" title, to hold everything else that wasn't related to the Genderbending theme of this thread.

That, or rename the Ontology thread to promote all that scientific discussion that derailed the thread countless times.

Where were we before the H-scenes started early this morning? What section of the light novels are we working on perfecting?

Kaisos is on chapter 5 I believe.

[Forceflow]

i think we have our fetishes down n ready. People, we need to start churning out porn scripts~ :heh:

[CanadaAotS]

i think we have our fetishes down n ready. People, we need to start churning out porn scripts~ :heh:

Yeah. I've decided I'm going to write out each scene, textually graphic parts and all. After work today perhaps, although I seem to work better on it at night :p

Partially related: downloaded a 2 GB Haruhi doujin pack, I'm going to look through them all to get a better idea of what I'll be writing (describing?) during the h-scenes.
Besides the fact that I just want to have 2 GB of Haruhi doujins :D


Anyway, back to the novel. I'm reading Volume 2 Chapter 1, and it seems when Volume 2 rolls around, Kyon starts thinking about Mikuru a LOT.
But Kyonko won't be attracted to Mitsuuru in that way... How will that get bent to conform to the whole "Kyon-nee-chan" bit?
And we also have to introduce butler Mitsuuru before the end of this volume, since he'll have "Accumulated enough manly points" to "level up" to a butler for the next Volume.

Making Haruki knowledgable in RPG's doesn't seem like too bad of an idea :heh:

[Ithekro]

Why do I have thoughts of Kyonko (using a slightly altered Chiaki Minami voice) going "Mitsuuru-nee-sama"? And why do I really, really, want to hear that?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Why do I have thoughts of Kyonko (using a slightly altered Chiaki Minami voice) going "Mitsuuru-nee-sama"? And why do I really, really, want to hear that?

Because Haruka-nee-sama IS amazing, and it's impossible to shut that out of this project.

[Ithekro]

That is probably it. Though hearing Minorin as Kyon-chan in Haruki and being able to not flash to her being Nagato would be amazing as well.

[otai]

I don't know why, but I just can't get neko-shoujo kyonko going "Nya~n" out of my head.

Good thing or bad thing? lol. I think my brain will brake has broken from cuteness overload.

Edit: hahaha ok, Neko-shoujo scene, Yuuki pops in just before and actually turns Kyonko into a neko-girl. So she'll have an actual tail and ears, and she won't be able to help but say "Nya~n" after all her sentences.

Kyon makes the appropriate snarky comment to which he gets scratched by Kyonko's claws hahaha.
Also, I could do without combat waitress since it's similar to the made outfit, but damn, Cheerleader... I don't think I want to give up anything on the list of 8 we have already. :p

If that isn't deus sex machina, nothing is.;)

Well, Kyonko will fit right in doing Motteke! Sailor Fuku, with her ponytail and DFC.

[Red225]

I get the feeling DxM's comment was taking out of context, resulting in the name change. I believe the comment was to create a "new" thread with the "Universe" title, to hold everything else that wasn't related to the Genderbending theme of this thread.
The thread was clearly remade in its entirety due to our Danchou's unfulfilled desires!

Where were we before the H-scenes started early this morning? What section of the light novels are we working on perfecting?
The last bit I could find was, *cough*, my editjob of Remote Island Syndrome (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1500513&postcount=6859). A couple of things out of place there, I thought.

EDIT: Ahaha at this:

Edit: hahaha ok, Neko-shoujo scene, Yuuki pops in just before and actually turns Kyonko into a neko-girl. So she'll have an actual tail and ears, and she won't be able to help but say "Nya~n" after all her sentences.

Kyon makes the appropriate snarky comment to which he gets scratched by Kyonko's claws hahaha.
If that happens, Kyonko really needs to have a tired *how the hell did I get roped into this deal* sweatdrop expression when catgirled. Then again, she'd probably need that expression during *most* of the scenes that aren't sex.

Kyonko needs equal amounts of snark, though! Perhaps something on the lines of "It's obvious my universe and Haruki came first and made you guys up... this scenario is totally out of a completely male mind. A *broken* male mind."

[Kaisos Erranon]

*ahem*

I asked the question earlier of whether the snarky comments are going to be during or after the sex, in each scene.

Because during would be much funnier.

But no one answered last time, so I'm asking again.

[DJ_RockmanX]

I asked the question earlier of whether the snarky comments are going to be during or after the sex, in each scene.

Because during would be much funnier.

Why not both?

[Kaisos Erranon]

Why not both?

Well, they can do that too. :D

[Aebliss]

A few pages (alright, dozens of them by now, I imagine) ago, we were discussing ways in which Mitsuru (Big) could lightly teach Kyonko. Offering her milk was a nice idea, but what about him offering her a little gift? Namely, a hair ribbon like Suzumiya Haruh wears? Eh?

[DJ_RockmanX]

A few pages (alright, dozens of them by now, I imagine) ago, we were discussing ways in which Mitsuru (Big) could lightly teach Kyonko. Offering her milk was a nice idea, but what about him offering her a little gift? Namely, a hair ribbon like Suzumiya Haruh wears? Eh?

Milk as the intro gift, and ribbon as a parting gift perhaps?

And it gives Haruki something to talk about if she wears it the day after Armageddon.

I like this idea. Use it, Kaisos.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Milk as the intro gift, and ribbon as a parting gift perhaps?

And it gives Haruki something to talk about if she wears it the day after Armageddon.

I like this idea. Use it, Kaisos.

An alice band like Haruhi wears? Doesn't seem to suit Kyon-chan. Just a ribbon to tie her hair up with, though, that works fine.

[DJ_RockmanX]

An alice band like Haruhi wears? Doesn't seem to suit Kyon-chan. Just a ribbon to tie her hair up with, though, that works fine.

I wasn't saying alice band. That seems weird on Kyon-chan, I agree.

But Haruki now has a justification to compliment her on her ponytail. And it's all thanks to Mitsuru (big)'s intervention.

Or is this another one of those predetermined things... Ah well. Leave it for that thread whenever it pops up.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I wasn't saying alice band. That seems weird on Kyon-chan, I agree.

But Haruki now has a justification to compliment her on her ponytail. And it's all thanks to Mitsuru (big)'s intervention.

But she always wears the ponytail. Now she just has a cute yellow ribbon instead.

In fact...

I have an idea.

Since I was going to have Asakura cut her hair tie anyway to set up something with the WAWAWA scene later, I can just have her not wear the ponytail throughout the rest of the volume until the morning after Armageddon.

[DJ_RockmanX]

But she always wears the ponytail. Now she just has a cute yellow ribbon instead.

In fact...

I have an idea.

Since I was going to have Asakura cut her hair tie anyway to set up something with the WAWAWA scene later, I can just have her not wear the ponytail throughout the rest of the volume until the morning after Armageddon.

I liked "sudden justification" with the cute new ribbon, but this works better actually. Kind of like how Kyon was freaked out by Haruhi losing the long hair.

Wait, again. Why don't we just incorporate both?

[Forceflow]

*ahem*

I asked the question earlier of whether the snarky comments are going to be during or after the sex, in each scene.

Because during would be much funnier.

But no one answered last time, so I'm asking again.

I would say not.

Can you imagine sleeping with your partner while he/she is making snarky remarks? Imagine what those remarks would revolve around. Probably how you're not doing enough, how you're doing it wrong, how your stuff is too small and all that.

Its gonna destroy the mood, leave it for after. Or have kyonko go through a tsuntsun after the first few ala Tohsaka Rin.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I liked "sudden justification" with the cute new ribbon, but this works better actually. Kind of like how Kyon was freaked out by Haruhi losing the long hair.

Wait, again. Why don't we just incorporate both?

So what exactly are you suggesting? I'm kind of not getting it... "sudden justification"?

I would say not.

Can you imagine sleeping with your partner while he/she is making snarky remarks? Imagine what those remarks would revolve around. Probably how you're not doing enough, how you're doing it wrong, how your stuff is too small and all that.

Its gonna destroy the mood.

They're the same person. They're not in love, they're doing this to save the universe. They'd also both be making snarky comments, not necessarily about the sex, just about their situation in general.

Sex is inherently funny. Having neither of them take it seriously is funnier still.

[DJ_RockmanX]

So what exactly are you suggesting? I'm kind of not getting it... "sudden justification"?

Have you never tried hitting on girls like this? :heh:

You just gotta find something that's seemingly different about them to talk about. In this case, Haruki notices Kyon-chan's new hair ribbon, and decides to compliment her on it. Of course, it's made more gradual and made less of a shock if you get rid of Kyon-chan's ponytail until the end of the volume.

[Red225]

Snark doesn't always have to be directed at the opposite person. I can see a lot of sarcastic commentary directed towards the other SOS members, though. Stuff like why only Kyonko has to wear the outfits and so on.

Although...

"Great, so the world's going to be destroyed because I couldn't stop snarking at my opposite sex clone."

(Gah, now snarking sounds like a euphemism for what they should have been doing!)

[Forceflow]

The scripts for each scenario in the doujin are self contained right?

If so I claim dibs to try the mizugi one. It was my idea and I won't have nice people like Jintor being dirtied thinking over it. :heh:

[Aebliss]

I would say not.

Can you imagine sleeping with your partner while he/she is making snarky remarks? Imagine what those remarks would revolve around. Probably how you're not doing enough, how you're doing it wrong, how your stuff is too small and all that.

Actually, for some people, that might be a turn-on, like a goad to keep trying harder, even during. *cough* To a guy like Haruki, it might be an inspiration to have someone goading him to do his utmost best. Not to mention, he might feel subtly discomfited if Kyonko suddenly did a 180, rather than stay the girl he fell for.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Have you never tried hitting on girls like this? :heh:

You just gotta find something that's seemingly different about them to talk about. In this case, Haruki notices Kyon-chan's new hair ribbon, and decides to compliment her on it. Of course, it's made more gradual and made less of a shock if you get rid of Kyon-chan's ponytail until the end of the volume.

I'm not really good with girls... but in any case, I get it.

Yeah, this is gonna work well. It's like with the bunny suit, it logically flows.

Eeeexcellent.

By the way, everyone...

What are two stories where the girl wakes the guy up by kissing him? I need them for BM and Yuuki to mention instead of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Actually, for some people, that might be a turn-on, like a goad to keep trying harder, even during. *cough* To a guy like Haruki, it might be an inspiration to have someone goading him to do his utmost best. Not to mention, he might feel subtly discomfited if Kyonko suddenly did a 180, rather than stay the girl he fell for.

But it's a KyonxKyonko doujin.

I'm not really good with girls... but in any case, I get it.

Man, get out more. :p

[Forceflow]

They're the same person. They're not in love, they're doing this to save the universe. They'd also both be making snarky comments, not necessarily about the sex, just about their situation in general.

Sex is inherently funny. Having neither of them take it seriously is funnier still.

Actually, for some people, that might be a turn-on, like a goad to keep trying harder, even during. *cough* To a guy like Haruki, it might be an inspiration to have someone goading him to do his utmost best. Not to mention, he might feel subtly discomfited if Kyonko suddenly did a 180, rather than stay the girl he fell for.

Hmm.. Ok then. I'll bow to hilarious sex. The reader is gonna go *does the weighing scale hand motion* faplaughfaplaughfaplaugh... :heh:

What are two stories where the girl wakes the guy up by kissing him? I need them for BM and Yuuki to mention instead of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.

Good question. What stories indeed.

/EDIT: THE LITTLE MERMAID. LULZ

/EDIT2: Would Beauty and the Beast count? Beast does seem to fit... :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Good question. What stories indeed.

/EDIT: THE LITTLE MERMAID. LULZ

I did not know that... never seen the movie.

I need another one, though, particularly one where the kiss happens at the end or something.


/EDIT2: Would Beauty and the Beast count? Beast does seem to fit... :heh:

She doesn't wake him up by kissing him, though, as I recall.

[DJ_RockmanX]

/EDIT: THE LITTLE MERMAID. LULZ

/EDIT2: Would Beauty and the Beast count? Beast does seem to fit... :heh:

You've watched way too much Disney stuff. B&B works pretty well though.

[Aebliss]

By the way, everyone...

What are two stories where the girl wakes the guy up by kissing him? I need them for BM and Yuuki to mention instead of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.

There's a Tanith Lee short story, Shezael and Drezaem, which has a ... similar theme.

A powerful demon has divided a soul into two before it is born, to punish the mother of the coming child for rejecting him. Each half of the soul is placed in a different body, one male, one female. The female soul-carrier eventually finds the male half, but it's demon-bespelled and won't wake when she is awake; demons remove the signs she leaves for him while she sleeps. In the end, she kisses him and goes away to die. When he wakes, a single eyelash from her falls into his eye, showing him the truth behind the demonic illusions and he goes to find her. In the end, they are together, and somehow perfect together. The demon leaves them alone, too impressed with what they have become to try and separate them again.

Is that any good?

[Red225]

What are two stories where the girl wakes the guy up by kissing him? I need them for BM and Yuuki to mention instead of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.
Wouldn't it just be easier for Kyonko to joke about 'isn't it ususally the guy who kisses the girl in this kind of story?'

[Forceflow]

You've watched way too much Disney stuff.

I'm at the ripe old age of 22.

I grew up on that stuff and I can still sing Under the Sea. :D

[DJ_RockmanX]

She doesn't wake him up by kissing him, though, as I recall.

It works well enough. :heh:

But:

Wouldn't it just be easier for Kyonko to joke about 'isn't it ususally the guy who kisses the girl in this kind of story?'

Yeah, I still prefer something like this.

I'm at the ripe old age of 22.

I grew up on that stuff and I can still sing Under the Sea. :D

Oh god.

[Forceflow]

There's a Tanith Lee short story, Shezael and Drezaem, which has a ... similar theme.

A powerful demon has divided a soul into two before it is born, to punish the mother of the coming child for rejecting him. Each half of the soul is placed in a different body, one male, one female. The female soul-carrier eventually finds the male half, but it's demon-bespelled and won't wake when she is awake; demons remove the signs she leaves for him while she sleeps. In the end, she kisses him and goes away to die. When he wakes, a single eyelash from her falls into his eye, showing him the truth behind the demonic illusions and he goes to find her. In the end, they are together, and somehow perfect together. The demon leaves them alone, too impressed with what they have become to try and separate them again.

Is that any good?

Looks ok but the main problem is that it needs to be instantly identifiable by the audience. Hence we need names which people will instantly recognise. Hence the reason why the stories like snow white were chosen in the first place.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Wouldn't it just be easier for Kyonko to joke about 'isn't it ususally the guy who kisses the girl in this kind of story?'

Mmm, true, but I still need BM and Yuuki to make some reference...

There's a Tanith Lee short story, Shezael and Drezaem, which has a ... similar theme.

*snip*

Is that any good?

That does work, but would Kyon-chan have heard of it?

It works well enough. :heh:


Need to see that movie again.

I'm at the ripe old age of 22.

I grew up on that stuff and I can still sing Under the Sea. :D

You do realize that the original book has a somewhat dark and tragic ending, and is nothing like the movie, right?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Looks ok but the main problem is that it needs to be instantly identifiable by the audience. Hence we need names which people will instantly recognise. Hence the reason why the stories like snow white were chosen in the first place.

That does work, but would Kyon-chan have heard of it?

If it's too obscure it won't work.

Mmm, true, but I still need BM and Yuuki to make some reference...

Need to see that movie again.

B&B it is then. The parallels are pretty good actually.

You do realize that the original book has a somewhat dark and tragic ending, and is nothing like the movie, right?

Once again, I blame Disney.

[Forceflow]

You do realize that the original book has a somewhat dark and tragic ending, and is nothing like the movie, right?

Actually no. I still wear rose-tinted glasses when I think back on the times I didn't reach waist height and all the good old-fashioned disney movies I used to love. ;)

Not like some of the trash that the current disney is able to throw at people...

[Kaisos Erranon]

B&B it is then. The parallels are pretty good actually.

B&B doesn't really work, though. No kiss in the original book. Belle just cries, her tears fall onto his face, and he turns back into a prince.

[DJ_RockmanX]

B&B doesn't really work, though. No kiss in the original book. Belle just cries, her tears fall onto his face, and he turns back into a prince.

Yeah yeah yeah. No need to be so specific. :p

Oh! I got it! Kyon-chan knows there wasn't a kiss at the end, so she's like WTF?

[Forceflow]

B&B doesn't really work, though. No kiss in the original book. Belle just cries, her tears fall onto his face, and he turns back into a prince.

They kiss after that in the movie. Does that work? Still has a kiss. And more importantly the revelation that the female lead does indeed love the beast.

[Red225]

She could be all

"Wait, but in the original story the girl doesn't kiss the beast until AFTER he turned human... am I overthinking this? Gah! Why can't you just explain instructions to save the world clearly?!"

or something.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Also for the other one, how bout the Frog Prince? I think we mentioned that before actually, but lost it in the waves of backlog, off-topicness, and CRACK.

She could be all

"Wait, but in the original story the girl doesn't kiss the beast until AFTER he turned human... am I overthinking this? Gah! Why can't you just explain instructions to save the world clearly?!"

or something.

Yeah. :D

That's just like Kyon back in the original novel too, something that they cut out of the anime.

[Forceflow]

Also for the other one, how bout the Frog Prince? I think we mentioned that before actually, but lost it in the waves of backlog, off-topicness, and CRACK.

...The final bit about the frog king requires the princess to behead the frog to change it back. I don't think we could fit that in. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yeah yeah yeah. No need to be so specific. :p

Oh! I got it! Kyon-chan knows there wasn't a kiss at the end, so she's like WTF?

They kiss after that in the movie. Does that work? Still has a kiss. And more importantly the revelation that the female lead does indeed love the beast.

She could be all

"Wait, but in the original story the girl doesn't kiss the beast until AFTER he turned human... am I overthinking this? Gah! Why can't you just explain instructions to save the world clearly?!"

or something.

Yeah, that works.

Also for the other one, how bout the Frog Prince? I think we mentioned that before actually, but lost it in the waves of backlog, off-topicness, and CRACK.

Frog Prince is perfect.

[DJ_RockmanX]

...The final bit about the frog king requires the princess to behead the frog to change it back. I don't think we could fit that in. :heh:

You people...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/kyon02021mv.gif

[Forceflow]

You people...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/kyon02021mv.gif

But there have been countless versions of this story. More than one have the frog prince being kissed to return so we could just say we meant the 'kiss-to-change-back' one, not the 'behead-to-change-back' one. :p

[DJ_RockmanX]

But there have been countless versions of this story. More than one have the frog prince being kissed to return so we could just say we meant the 'kiss-to-change-back' one, not the 'behead-to-change-back' one. :p

Well Kyon-chan can snark about that too then. :D

[Aebliss]

Well Kyon-chan can snark about that too then. :D

Ooh! Ooh! *waves hand excitedly in the air* When Kyonko falls out of bed after the dream, and after she's done lamenting how Dr. Freud would laugh himself silly at it all, she might say something along the following lines:
"Dammit, I actually kissed him! Even if it was in my dreams, that is too much! Stupid PC Frog Prince fable! If I had to act like some character from a fairy tale, why not an original one? Why couldn't I have just cut his head off to restore the world to normal? Aaaaaghh, I kissed him, I kissed him!"

[DJ_RockmanX]

Ooh! Ooh! *waves hand excitedly in the air* When Kyonko falls out of bed after the dream, and after she's done lamenting how Dr. Freud would laugh himself silly at it all, she might say something along the following lines:
"Dammit, I actually kissed him! Even if it was in my dreams, that is too much! Stupid PC Frog Prince fable! If I had to act like some character from a fairy tale, why not an original one? Why couldn't I have just cut his head off to restore the world to normal? Aaaaaghh, I kissed him, I kissed him!"

Another good suggestion. :D

[Kaisos Erranon]

Ooh! Ooh! *waves hand excitedly in the air* When Kyonko falls out of bed after the dream, and after she's done lamenting how Dr. Freud would laugh himself silly at it all, she might say something along the following lines:
"Dammit, I actually kissed him! Even if it was in my dreams, that is too much! Stupid PC Frog Prince fable! If I had to act like some character from a fairy tale, why not an original one? Why couldn't I have just cut his head off to restore the world to normal? Aaaaaghh, I kissed him, I kissed him!"

IT'S MIRAKU.

Seriously, you guys are awesome. Great suggestion there.

[Aebliss]

Another good suggestion. :D

IT'S MIRAKU.

Seriously, you guys are awesome. Great suggestion there.

It's nice to be appreciated. ~_^ It's an awesome topic, it brings out some of my creativity, because I'd like to see it go well.

[dkellis]

What are two stories where the girl wakes the guy up by kissing him? I need them for BM and Yuuki to mention instead of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.

/EDIT: THE LITTLE MERMAID. LULZ

/EDIT2: Would Beauty and the Beast count? Beast does seem to fit... :heh:

I actually asked this question way, way, way back when, around the time I wrote my Big Mitsuru scene, and the answer I got was "stick to the canon, it's easier, and we can just have Kyonko say that usually it happens the other way around".

Apparently we're changing our minds now.

Anyway, regarding The Little Mermaid, I can't help but think of the original version, since it shocked my young impressionable mind when I first read it after the Disney movie. In that, the mermaid's curse is supposed to be broken by killing the prince; she doesn't go through with it, throws herself into the sea, and dissolves.

This is probably not conducive to a True Love's Kiss scene.

Anyway, I asked back then about Hans Christian Andersen's stories, and since The Little Mermaid was mentioned, I think The Snow Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen) is fair game. I remember really liking the story when I first read it, because Gerda is so very awesome. (And Mary Sueish.)

I'm at the ripe old age of 22.

I grew up on that stuff and I can still sing Under the Sea. :D

Hah, yes. I'm 25, and my "I can sing everything" Disney movie is Aladdin.

[Valentine]

Mmm, true, but I still need BM and Yuuki to make some reference...
If you're going the route of having Kyonko complain about the roles being reversed compared to the hints Mitsuru and Yuuki gave her, just use Snow White and Sleeping Beauty as in the originals. If you want to switch it around, The Snow Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen) was suggested earlier in the thread as one of the few examples of the girl kissing the guy, though it might not be as easily recognisable as the others.

Edit: Yeah, what dkellis said.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yeah, The Snow Queen and The Frog Prince then.

[Ithekro]

RmX needs a shopped animated version of Kyon's facepalm using either Haruki or Kyonko.

[DJ_RockmanX]

RmX needs a shopped animated version of Kyon's facepalm using either Haruki or Kyonko.

Man you're always the one making requests for me. And they're always good suggestions. :D

And I'm still in favor of the Beauty and the Beast parallel to the Seitenkan story, along with Red's take on the scenario.

[Forceflow]

Man you're always the one making requests for me. And they're always good suggestions. :D

And I'm still in favor of the Beauty and the Beast parallel to the Seitenkan story, along with Red's take on the scenario.

Hear Hear. I think the beast reference is too awesome to give up. As is the bed talk after that. :heh:

[otai]

She could be all

"Wait, but in the original story the girl doesn't kiss the beast until AFTER he turned human... am I overthinking this? Gah! Why can't you just explain instructions to save the world clearly?!"

or something.

Add to the fact that Haruki turns into a 'beast' right after she kisses him, destroying any shoujo fantasy she might have had. lol:D

[DJ_RockmanX]

Add to the fact that Haruki turns into a 'beast' right after she kisses him, destroying any shoujo fantasy she might have had. lol:D

Oh damn. That's way too perfect to be giving up.

Let's just incorporate everything, like we always manage to do. :D

[Aebliss]

Oh damn. That's way too perfect to be giving up.

Let's just incorporate everything, like we always manage to do. :D

Sooo ... Haruki grabs her and starts to kiss her back forcefully, maybe even repeatedly, I assume, just previous to waking up? I'm not sure we should have him do anything too h ...

[Kaisos Erranon]

Sooo ... Haruki grabs her and starts to kiss her back forcefully, maybe even repeatedly, I assume, just previous to waking up? I'm not sure we should have him do anything too h ...

Yeah, he just snogs her forcefully.

Poor Kyon-chan.

[Aebliss]

Yeah, he just snogs her forcefully.

Poor Kyon-chan.

It could be worse. It could be much, much worse. -_-

[DJ_RockmanX]

Sooo ... Haruki grabs her and starts to kiss her back forcefully, maybe even repeatedly, I assume, just previous to waking up? I'm not sure we should have him do anything too h ...

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6411/481978ve5.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=481978ve5.jpg)

There we go.

[Ithekro]

All I can do it give suggests from time to time. This is not my style of writing, and character driven art was never my style either, so I'm left with suggestions and attempting to channel the conversation (which I do poorly).

Also attempt to avoid the CRACK. However I notice we are rapidly approaching 7,000.

[DJ_RockmanX]

All I can do it give suggests from time to time. This is not my style of writing, and character driven art was never my style either, so I'm left with suggestions and attempting to channel the conversation (which I do poorly).

You're doing alright so far. :heh:

Also attempt to avoid the CRACK. However I notice we are rapidly approaching 7,000.

Something tells me this jinxed it.

[Forceflow]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6411/481978ve5.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=481978ve5.jpg)

There we go.

Damn, you beat me to it. :heh:

[Aebliss]

I must be a very bad person ... o_o On the topic of 'fairytales where the girl kisses the guy and everything ends well' ... Shrek. It'd give Kyonko every right to say, after being forcefully snogged: "At least that fairytale was accurate, he really is an ogre! Oh, mother ... What would he have done to me if I hadn't woken up? Dr. Freud, what is wrong with me?"

[Red225]

Nah, it should ideally be a reference with some history behind it. Shrek's a bit modern. How well known is Pixar stuff in Asia, anyway?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Nah, it should ideally be a reference with some history behind it. Shrek's a bit modern. How well known is Pixar stuff in Asia, anyway?

Dreamworks actually.

But I think we should really stick to older stuff.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Nah, it should ideally be a reference with some history behind it. Shrek's a bit modern. How well known is Pixar stuff in Asia, anyway?

The Japanese love American stuff, and Kyon-chan knows EVERYTHING, so...

But yeah, we should stick to older stuff.

[DJ_RockmanX]

The Japanese love American stuff, and Kyon-chan knows EVERYTHING, so...

Oh boy, another reason to incorporate everything Kaisos?

But yeah, we should stick to older stuff.

Whew.

[Aebliss]

Heh. Oh, well. ^^ Not every idea can be a winner.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Heh. Oh, well. ^^ Not every idea can be a winner.

Good thought though. Because Kyon-chan knows EVERYTHING. :heh:

[dkellis]

Now, my justification for suggesting The Snow Queen:

It seems like the kind of story Kyonko would have been interested in when she was little. A girl going off on a Grand Adventure to rescue her One True Love, solving every problem she comes across, never giving up or losing sight of her goals... I can imagine Kyonko citing that story as one of her early inspirations before the Cold Hard Reality of Common Sense set in.

One of the interpretations of the story is that it signifies the triumph of emotion and love over cold logic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawVulcan). This might work with both Haruki's "love is a mental disease" and Kyonko's general "why doesn't the world make sense".

And then there's the pieces of the evil mirror, which magnifies the bad and ignores the good. Again, applies to both Haruki (doesn't see the fantastic right in front of her) and Kyonko (sees the fantastic, attempts to reject it).

The story could be interpreted to mean that one should "be as a child", and treat the world a lot simpler than adults tend to do. Never mind logic and common sense; do what you think is right, in defiance of those. Which, as it turns out, is the best way to get out of the Closed Space at the end of the world.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Now, my justification for suggesting The Snow Queen:

It seems like the kind of story Kyonko would have been interested in when she was little. A girl going off on a Grand Adventure to rescue her One True Love, solving every problem she comes across, never giving up or losing sight of her goals... I can imagine Kyonko citing that story as one of her early inspirations before the Cold Hard Reality of Common Sense set in.

One of the interpretations of the story is that it signifies the triumph of emotion and love over cold logic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawVulcan). This might work with both Haruki's "love is a mental disease" and Kyonko's general "why doesn't the world make sense".

And then there's the pieces of the evil mirror, which magnifies the bad and ignores the good. Again, applies to both Haruki (doesn't see the fantastic right in front of her) and Kyonko (sees the fantastic, attempts to reject it).

The story could be interpreted to mean that one should "be as a child", and treat the world a lot simpler than adults tend to do. Never mind logic and common sense; do what you think is right, in defiance of those. Which, as it turns out, is the best way to get out of the Closed Space at the end of the world.

Yeah, we're putting that in then.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Yeah, we're putting that in then.

Just put everything in while you're at it. :p

[Red225]

Dreamworks actually.

*shrug* I never actually saw most of the CG stuff, not a big cinema fan.

So, anyway, the choices so far:

Originals: Snow White, Sleeping Beauty.

Frog Prince

The Snow Queen

Beauty & the Beast

Shrek

Any that I missed?

[Kaisos Erranon]

*shrug* I never actually saw most of the CG stuff, not a big cinema fan.

So, anyway, the choices so far:

Originals: Snow White, Sleeping Beauty.

Frog Prince

The Snow Queen

Beauty & the Beast

Shrek

Any that I missed?

Snow Queen and Frog Prince. Simplest ones, really.

[DJ_RockmanX]

*shrug* I never actually saw most of the CG stuff, not a big cinema fan.

Neither am I really. :heh:

So, anyway, the choices so far:

Originals: Snow White, Sleeping Beauty.

Frog Prince

The Snow Queen

Beauty & the Beast

Shrek

Any that I missed?

I think that's about right so far.

Snow Queen and Frog Prince. Simplest ones, really.

I thought you said you'd think about it? :(

I'm still pushing for the B&B one.

[ESC]

Beauty and the Beast sounds like a good counter part to snow white. Its just my opinion though :D

[DJ_RockmanX]

Beauty and the Beast sounds like a good counter part to snow white. Its just my opinion though :D

Yay another vote! :D

[NejinOniwa]

Oh CARP!
Why, why would I ever think of leaving this place for as much as a WEEK? This thing is a nuclear reactor! TWO HUNDRED PAGES! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO CATCH UP NOW!? Uguu~ ;_;
Curse you easter break, curse you...

[DJ_RockmanX]

Oh CARP!
Why, why would I ever think of leaving this place for as much as a WEEK? This thing is a nuclear reactor! TWO HUNDRED PAGES! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO CATCH UP NOW!? Uguu~ ;_;
Curse you easter break, curse you...

Hisashiburi. :heh:

And I'm still collecting votes for the B&B thing. :D

[Aebliss]

Oh CARP!
Why, why would I ever think of leaving this place for as much as a WEEK? This thing is a nuclear reactor! TWO HUNDRED PAGES! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO CATCH UP NOW!? Uguu~ ;_;
Curse you easter break, curse you...

*pat pat* There, there. I found this thread when it was already over 200 pages long. I just try to keep up a little with the most recent bits and have fun reading the backlog when time allows. Seriously, until the GB of HS project is completed, I judge it'll be impossible to catch up on the backlog ... ^^;

[Kang Seung Jae]

Wait, WTH are we talking about? The ending of Volume 1 or the H-Doujinshi?

[DJ_RockmanX]

Wait, WTH are we talking about? The ending of Volume 1 or the H-Doujinshi?

Volume 1. We're on topic for once.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Volume 1. We're on topic for once.

And the H-Doujinshi isn't on topic? :twitch:

[DJ_RockmanX]

And the H-Doujinshi isn't on topic? :twitch:

Er, the main topic. :heh:

So what's your vote? I want the will of the majority behind the fairy tale references. :D

[Kaisos Erranon]

10 more posts to 7000.

[Red225]

Hmm, I don't think B&B works fantastically... really you want the hint to jump out and say "Kiss him you idiot!" really obviously, and what's the first thing you think about when hearing Beauty and the Beast?

Frog Prince works in that aspect well.

[NejinOniwa]

I think I need a gunshot somewhere right now. Ah well. At least I seem to have found most of the major happenings from last week. Now to scrounge up all the images I've missed.


OH: And personally, I add my consensus to B&B. Bestial Haruki indeed -w-

[DJ_RockmanX]

10 more posts to 7000.

Real productive thar, Kaisos.

Why don't you try and just figure out how to make Snow Queen a point of reference for Kyon-chan's thought processes, instead of as one of the fairy tales that BM or Yuuki use as hints?

Hmm, I don't think B&B works fantastically... really you want the hint to jump out and say "Kiss him you idiot!" really obviously, and what's the first thing you think about when hearing Beauty and the Beast?

Frog Prince works in that aspect well.

You're the one who rewrote that scene. :uhoh:

I think I need a gunshot somewhere right now. Ah well. At least I seem to have found most of the major happenings from last week. Now to scrounge up all the images I've missed.

Check out the image thread. :heh:

OH: And personally, I add my consensus to B&B. Bestial Haruki indeed -w-

YES.

[NejinOniwa]

Check out the image thread. :heh:


Is there a separate genderbender image thread now, even!? WHAT HAVE I MISSED!?

[Kang Seung Jae]

Er, the main topic. :heh:

So what's your vote? I want the will of the majority behind the fairy tale references. :D

Abstain, due to the fact I'm translating a few comics for you guys.

[Red225]

Hey, I just roll with the ideas. Throw out anything, I'll try and put up a good scene for it. Doesn't mean there's other, better ideas to put in :D

[DJ_RockmanX]

Abstain, due to the fact I'm translating a few comics for you guys.

Abstain? Weak. :p

Hey, I just roll with the ideas. Throw out anything, I'll try and put up a good scene for it. Doesn't mean there's other, better ideas to put in :D

I liked it though... :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Real productive thar, Kaisos.

Why don't you try and just figure out how to make Snow Queen a point of reference for Kyon-chan's thought processes, instead of as one of the fairy tales that BM or Yuuki use as hints?

Since it was dkellis's idea to use Snow Queen, I'll leave it to him to come up with such an integration. He's better at writing Kyon-chan than me anyways.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Since it was dkellis's idea to use Snow Queen, I'll leave it to him to come up with such an integration. He's better at writing Kyon-chan than me anyways.

Heh. I think that it could be used to explain Kyon-chan's melancholy, if anything.

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