The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty] [Archive] - Page 70

Jintor

2009-07-06, 22:48

I Will Have My Revenge!

"Screw Haruki, I'm not going to hurry to somewhere I have no intention of being just because he says so."

"I really feel like just going home. This day isn't going to improve any. Hell, why am I still in this stupid brigade!?"

"If I had left ages ago, I wouldn't have had to go through any of the hell I'd been through the past year, and--"

"And the summer would still be looping eternally?"

"Or the world would have ended?"

"Or worse?"

"…"

"...Sigh. I feel like if I just up and quit, he'll fall into another depression and destroy the universe. He's just like a little kid."

"A little kid with the powers of a god, but still, a little kid."

"…I'll go to the club meeting, but I'm going to take my time. That's my reward for putting up with all this, at least."

"Right?"

[Scene: Hallway]

"I decided to take the long way around to the Old Shack. Walking is the best and most convenient form of exercise, right? And besides, don't want to get there too soon."

"As I turn a corner, I see a very short, very familiar person standing by the window and looking out over the courtyard."

Short Girl: "*grumble*"

"This is the president of the Computer Research Society, a club composed of girls who are both technically minded and avid readers of 'boy's love' manga. I've known her ever since Haruki blackmailed them into giving us their prized computer, although we haven't talked much... for obvious reasons."

Computer Society President: "Grumble... going to get even with that stupid bastard one day, I swear..."

"Like I said, obvious reasons."

CSP: "The day will come soon, yes... the day when my revenge will be complete! Ahahahahahahaha- oh."

"Looks like she noticed me. It's considered strange to talk to yourself, you know."

CSP: "Yoooouuuuu! You're with him! That terrible ogre-giant-man-thing!"

Kyonko: "Um, I wouldn't exactly consider myself to be 'with'--"

CSP: "Shut up! You're going to deliver a message to him, you understand?"

Kyonko: "...What is it?"

"I have no intention of actually delivering this 'message', whatever it is, but I can at least lend the poor girl an ear. She's probably suffered from Haruki almost as much as I have. In different ways, of course."

CSP: "*ahem* Tell him that... his days as a so-called 'Brigade Chief' are numbered!"

"…If that isn't the most cliché thing I've heard all day."

Kyonko: "I'm sorry, if you could be a little clearer about--"

CSP: "Shut up! We, the Computer Research Society, are going to reclaim what is rightfully ours, and, by doing so, reclaim our honor!"

Kyonko: "...I'd think it was more your honor that was tarnished than that of your club members."

CSP: "Ah, shut up, shut-up-shutup! Mark my words! I will have my revenge! Ahahahaha!"

"And laughing like a maniac, she dashes around the corner, never to be seen again."

"Wait, that's not right."

"...Haruki, I think you may have broken the poor President's brain."

"Oh well, I really don't think we have much to worry about. Even if she has some sort of crazy plan, it's nothing that someone like Haruki Suzumiya couldn't derail in an instant."

"...Damn, now that I've wasted time talking to strange people, I don't have enough time to take the long route and still be at the clubroom at a respectably late time!"

"I hoist my bag over my shoulder, and dash towards the Old Shack, cursing all the crazy people in this world as I go."

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 01:10

It's a reference to a running joke from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel: The Series. Basically, whenever alternate worlds would come up, the character doing the exposition would include a world populated entirely by shrimp (or completely devoid of shrimp).

Angel only did it once... and I kinda wish I would've quoted Illyria now. :heh:

So...how does Yuki refer to Kyon when she's not speaking to him?

"The boy."

Kagedanji

2009-07-07, 01:48

"The boy."

Really? I'd only imagine dark hood-wearing villains say that.

"Bring me the boy."

"The boy must be dealt with."

And also, about these different iterations recorded by Nagato, why would anything other than the summer events change? We seem to be driving towards the CRACK coated nonsensical path of rewriting things.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 02:01

Really? I'd only imagine dark hood-wearing villains say that.

"Bring me the boy."

"The boy must be dealt with."

I was actually going for an Eureka Seven reference, but now I want to see Yuki in an outfit like that. :heh:

And also, about these different iterations recorded by Nagato, why would anything other than the summer events change? We seem to be driving towards the CRACK coated nonsensical path of rewriting things.

Technically speaking, I went with the original universe...

scify

2009-07-07, 02:08

"There were 47 iterations that previous iterations of Kyon told me never to speak of again. There were 34 iterations where Mikuru begged me to never speak of again. There was 1 iteration Koizumi told me never to speak of again."

Does it say something about me that I'm most interested in the one Koizumi didn't want mentioned?

otai

2009-07-07, 02:23

I was actually going for an Eureka Seven reference, but now I want to see Yuki in an outfit like that. :heh:
Alien witch Nagato isn't good enough?

Does it say something about me that I'm most interested in the one Koizumi didn't want mentioned?

Not really, a single instance suggests uniqueness; so it's natural that your interest would be drawn there. A bigger question is if any of those requests were mutually exclusive. Like something happened that both Kyon and Itsuki requested it... :heh:

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 02:30

Alien witch Nagato isn't good enough?

You can never have enough images of the Great Goddess. :p

otai

2009-07-07, 02:43

Well, its Tanabata again.

I wish that Evil Korea doesn't nuke North Asia/I wish Kyoani finally finishes Endless Eight.

Jintor

2009-07-07, 02:52

I pray that 16 years from now there will be a lot less stupidity in the world.

besieger

2009-07-07, 03:42

I pray that we finish the VN within my lifetime.

Solais

2009-07-07, 03:44

I pray that 16 years from now there will be a lot less stupidity in the world.

You want an armageddon?

Btw, I wish for a Haruhi second season.

Oh wait.
Nevermind.

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-07, 03:48

16 years is a long time... Ah well.

I pray that we finish the VN within my lifetime.

Amen to that.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 03:49

We still haven't gotten one of those yet... though, if we have to wait 16 years for one, I might rethink my position as a fan. :heh:

*e* Directed towards the second season thing.

Jintor

2009-07-07, 03:50

Normality

"Somehow, no matter what time I come to school, that person is always there before me."

"Of course, I'm late today, so it's no surprise at all that Haruhi Suzumiya is already sitting in the seat behind mine, looking at me with a devil's grin plastered all over her face."

Haruhi: "Good morning, Kyon. You're late!"

"How many times have I heard that over the past few months? Let's see... we've gone on, hrmmm, four or five excursions outside school... and she says this to me whenever I'm late for class so add about another hundred... hundred and ten or so... wait, crap, I'm forgetting last month... screw it, I'm not bothering to count things I don't remember."

"...That was a long sentence."

Haruhi: "Hey, stop muttering to yourself and sit down! Don't you have anything to say to me?"

"One time, I tried coming about an hour and a half before school began. She was there before me then too, saying something about being unable to sleep the previous night or something like that. It's the exact same whenever I try to arrive early for one of our brigade outings. I'm becoming convinced that reality bends itself around her to always make it so that our clocks run differently."

"In fact, the only time I can remember ever showing up before her was a couple days after the - gah, not thinking about that either."

Haruhi: "Who said you could ignore me?! I'm the Chief, the Chief! You have to listen to me! Say something!"

"…"

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1)"Just say “Yo” and sit down."
2)"Try and strike up a conversation."

Still, Normality

Kyon: "...Yo."

Haruhi: "Whe- That's not something you say in the morning!"

Kyon: "It's not? I thought that's exactly what people said in the morning."

"Even though she's aggravating, it's good that she's not in a bad mood again. But I guess that isn't really a surprise, either."

Haruhi: "'Yo' is a normal thing to say in the morning. Normal. Ordinary. Boring. Like you."

"Which is exactly what I want."

Haruhi: "Ehh? And what, exactly, do you think the SOS Brigade is about?"

Kyon: "'Finding aliens, time travelers, and espers, and having fun with them'?"

Haruhi: "Well, yeah, that's true too, but it's also about having a real sense of adventure and freedom, a will to go beyond what people call 'normal' and really and truly be yourself!"

Kyon: "If you had put that on a flyer and passed it out I'm sure we'd have more members right now."

Haruhi: "What are you - grrr, I'm not talking to you anymore!"

"Haruhi crosses her arms and glares out the window, leaving me with a few precious minutes of silence."

"...She, of all of us, doesn't know that 600 years passed during that summer."

"She doesn't know what it's like to be us."

"I guess she never will."

IF DebtSlave = True THEN

"...Later, in English class, I felt the distinct pain of a mechanical pencil being pushed into the space in between my shoulder blades."

"I gave it a minute or two before I responded, during which the pencil continued to cause me great pain."

Kyon: "What? "

"I thought you weren't talking to me anymore."

Haruhi: "Hey, don't forget that you're buying me lunch today."

"...It never ends!"

Abnormality

"Maybe I'll indulge her whims for once."

"Hey, I can introduce my theory to the suspect herself!"

Kyon: "You ever find that the clock on your cellphone is running faster than every other clock?"

Haruhi: "Not really. Why? Is yours?"

"An instant response!"

Kyon: "No, mine would the opposite. For some reason, whenever I'm supposed to meet up with you, I'm inevitably late, and I was just wondering..."

Haruhi: "You sure it's not because you're incredibly lazy?"

Kyon: "No, I'm sure it's uh, mysterious events at work. Yeah."

Haruhi: "…"

"In a single, swift motion, she grabs my watch arm and pulls her cellphone out of her skirt pocket."

Haruhi: "...They're the exact same time. Nope, nothing mysterious there."

Kyon: "Oh. That's too bad."

"...Hey, wait a minute. Don't you find something incredibly wrong with the conversation we just had!?"

"Weren't the roles reversed just a little? And isn't having the exact same time on two different clocks mysterious in and of itself?"

"In fact, wouldn't that confirm my theory!?"

Kyon: "Maybe the universe, uh, twisted itself in that moment to make--"

Haruhi: "Stop trying, Kyon. It's... nice of you to make the effort, but mysteriously wrong clocks are small-time in the realm of the mysterious, especially when they're not mysteriously wrong.
"

"I didn't know there was a Realm of the Mysterious... wait, no, please don't let it be real, please."

Haruhi: "Plus, you don't always show up after me every time. There was that one..."

"She stops suddenly, and gets an odd look on her face. (I actually can't describe it in words.)"

Haruhi: "...Nevermind. Anyway, since you're starting to put more effort into your job as an SOS Brigade member-"

"Job!?"

Haruhi: "-That I've decided to promote you one rank from “Lowest Ranked Member” to “Second Lowest Ranked Member”!"

Kyon: "Really?"

"Crap, I think that sounded too excited. I really don't care, believe me."

Haruhi: "In fact, everyone's been doing such a good job lately that I've decided to promote you all one rank!"

"That's... wait. That means... I'd still be at the bottom."

"Dammit! She's laughing, watching me figure it out! Damn you!"

"I'll get even one day!"

"Sigh..."

"Even though it's aggravating for me, watching her enjoy herself like this is much better than watching her suffer in melancholy."

"It'd be good if she could be like this all the time, for nothing to bother her. If nothing bothered her, then all of the mysterious events would slowly go away, and we could all live normal lives again."

"And not have to go through an endless, repeating summer, ever again..."

"Haruhi doesn't know what it's like to be us, to have to deal with all the problems she creates."

"And if that keeps her laughing like she is now, that's probably..."

Haruhi: "Haha... Seriously though, Kyon, you need to lighten up! Life's an adventure! That's one of the creeds of the SOS Brigade!"

"...for the best."

IF DebtSlave = True THEN

"Later, in English class, I felt the distinct pain of a mechanical pencil being pushed into the space in between my shoulder blades."

Kyon: "Sigh... what is it?"

Haruhi: "Hey, don't forget that you're buying me lunch today."

"My suffering never ends!"

BTW we, which is to say me and Kiasos, have decided that that WittyUserName, hereby referred to as "The Loli", should totally like do our archive and stuff.

Well okay it doesn't have to be witty but it was the first name that jumped to mind.

vivify93

2009-07-07, 05:37

I'm just stuck going "nyoro~n" I guess.

Meh, I think I have a fear of commitment anyhow, and that I wouldn't be able to keep up on whatever I'm supplied anyhow.

Jintor

2009-07-07, 07:05

The Falling Satellite

IF DebtSlave = False THEN

"I always eat with Taniguchi and Kunikida at lunch break, for reasons that are a mystery even to me."

"Today Taniguchi was ranting on and on as always, this time something about a 'betrayal' and a 'skank'. I honestly don't know what he's on about almost 100% of the time."

"I really didn't want to hear it, either, so I ate my lunch quickly, wished Kunikida luck, and headed to the clubroom to escape."

IF DebtSlave = True THEN

"And so, when lunchtime came around, Haruhi dragged me to the cafeteria to buy her lunch. I don't know why her mom doesn't make lunch for her, but she always eats here."

"Haruhi immediately ordered the most extravagant and expensive items on the menu, and then looked at me expectantly."

"All this for a plate of pasta!? I don't have a money tree in my backyard! Order something cheaper!"

"Haruhi tried to get me to sit and eat with her, but I, having had enough, respectfully declined and ran out of the cafeteria before she could catch me."

"What I wouldn't give to be eating with Taniguchi and Kunikida right now!"

"...And I just realized I left my lunch in the cafeteria with Haruhi. Ye gods. What the heck am I going to do now?"

"I guess I'll have to go without lunch... can't show up to Taniguchi and Kunikida, they'll ask me where I left it, then laugh at me when I mention Haruhi's name. Best head down to the clubroom to hide, then."

"As always, Nagato is sitting and reading inside of the SOS Brigade clubroom. I just realized I've never actually seen her eat lunch here."

Kyon: "Yo, Nagato."

"She doesn't answer, not that I expected her to, but she does look up in acknowledgment."

"Good enough for me."

"Maybe I'll play around on the computer for a bit... hmmm?"

"That's strange. It's rare to see Nagato re-reading a book."

"It's even one of the first books I ever saw her reading, that big foreign one, the one she lent me."

"What was it called again...? One would think I'd remember, as I did read the whole book... though I didn't understand most of it."

"Ah!"

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1) “You're rereading 'The Fall of Hyperion', Nagato?”
2) Ignore it and go back to the computer.

Not Unique the Second Time

Kyon: "You're rereading 'The Fall of Hyperion', Nagato?"

Yuki: "...Yes."

"...As always, this person is difficult to hold long conversations with. I pride myself on my ability to do just that, however."

Kyon: "I didn't know you re-read books."

Yuki: "…"

Kyon: "It's, well, there's always more out there, huh? Or, uh..."

"Gah, I sound like an idiot."

Yuki: "…I already read them all."

Kyon: "Huh?"

"Oh no way. I must have misheard."

Kyon: "I'm sorry, what did you say?"

Yuki: "I have read all the books that interest me already."

"...Nagato reads fast enough to go through several books a day. If I'm right...."

Kyon: "Is that what you did... last summer?"

Yuki: "...Yes."

"Say, four books a day. 594 years times 365 days times four books... 867240 books."

"I can see how she would have read everything that could interest her, then."

Kyon: "But, new books are coming out all the time, right?"

Yuki: "Yes. That is why I am re-reading while I wait. But..."

Kyon: "But... reading a book over again, it just isn't the same, is it?"

Yuki: "...No."

"...Suddenly, I can't think of anything to say."

The Boredom of Yuki Nagato

"No, never mind. People re-read their favorite books all the time, even Nagato."

"Nothing wrong at all."

"…"

"…"

"But still, as I look over at her, just like with the endless summer..."

"She seems... bored."

"I should talk to her, but since I've sat down and started to surf the Internet already I don't feel as I can really start up a conversation."

"Damn me. I have to talk to her again later, if I get the chance."

dragon4dudes

2009-07-07, 07:14

Right now, I'm hungry for shrimp and its the morning... :heh:

Also, I'm a procrastinator so yeah...

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 07:43

If I am in any way responsible for your shrimp craving, I apologize. :p

Jintor

2009-07-07, 08:17

Guillotine

"On a normal school day like today, there's only one thing I hear from Haruhi when the last bell rings."

Haruhi: "Go straight to the clubroom, or heads will roll!"

"Or something along those lines, anyway. And then, zoom! She's off. Could somebody please post a speed limit in the hallways?"

"Today she mentioned something about a “special brigade meeting” before dashing off. I would be going anyway, but that kind of declaration doesn't exactly put me in the mood for it."

"Of course, I don't exactly have to run there, either..."

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1) Go straight there.
2) Walk around a bit first.

The Slave of Suzumiya

"I don't want to see Haruhi's angry eyes, so I'll head straight to the clubroom. I could run, but that would put me at the risk of looking like an idiot. Like a certain someone I know."

"Besides, who knows? This “special brigade meeting” could actually be kind of fun."

"...No, no it won't be, and I should be shot for even considering the possibility. "

"Sigh... such is my everyday life. Is there everyone else who could claim to have an everyday life like this and not have died from exhaustion and/or homicidal alien schoolgirls?"

"I must be a medical miracle."

No Promotion for You

"...Yeah, I'm just going to take my time."

"Although showing initiative would impress the leader of any normal brigade, I have doubts that any initiative on my part would impress the leader of this one. And besides, do I really want to impress her?"

"No, don't answer that."

"Guess I'll just walk around the hallways for a bit..."

"This risks a piercing glare from Haruhi Suzumiya, but at least I can still count myself as an independent being."

"I'm independent, right?"

Jintor

2009-07-07, 08:28

I Will Have My Revenge Too

"Before I was forcibly inducted into the SOS Brigade, I never quite appreciated how enjoyable it is to just walk around at your own pace."

"Of course, walking around the halls of this school, for some reason, carries with it its own risks."

Boy: "The time... has come."

In one of the hallways that connects to the Old Shack, I ran into a student gazing out over the courtyard below, muttering ominously to himself.

Boy: "Soon... very soon, I shall once again be the master of that computer! Soon, soon..."

"He seems familiar."

"...Ah, right, this is the president of the Computer Research Society. I've known him, or perhaps that's known of him, almost as long as I've been in the SOS Brigade. We don't really talk much, though, thanks to certain events entirely of Haruhi's making."

CSP: "Yes, Soon, yes, that stupid bitch and her cronies will get what's coming to them... yes, yes, ahahahahaha!"

"The reason for that should be obvious, and I'd tell you if I weren't still mortally embarrassed by it, but... simply put, it involved: his hand, Mikuru's chest, and a camera. Oh, and their prized computer."

"By the way, he used to be more normal than this. He's a stunning example of why you don't involved with Haruhi."

CSP: "With what is written on this piece of paper I hold in my hand right at this very moment, I, the Computer Society President, shall unhinge that horrid club from its... horrid... clubroom."

Kyon: "You know, in my experience, Haruhi shows up whenever someone says bad things about the SOS Brigade."

CSP: "Gah!!!! Yoooooouuuuuuuu!"

"He instantly crumples the piece of paper he was holding and throws it out the window, then looks around innocently."

"Uh. No, he was never like this at all."

Kyon: "...Did something bad happen recently?"

CSP: "Yes. Why do you ask? I'll tell you about it if you want to listen."

Kyon: "Uh, no thanks. In fact, I'm kind of busy, later."

CSP: "That's fine, fine. I, too, am busy. Um, later, that is. ...I'm also busy now."

"Busy with a psychiatric appointment, I hope."

CSP: "I, um, have to go get my piece of paper."

"Or not."

"When I finally got to the clubroom, Haruhi was there waiting for me."

Haruhi: "Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyouuuuuuuuuuuu'reeeeeeee late!"

"That's the second time I've heard that today from you. Nice job with that extended 'you're', by the way. Makes me feel appreciated."

Haruhi: "Whatever, here, look at this. It hit me on the head as I was walking through the courtyard."

"...It's a crumpled piece of paper that reads, in feverish writing, 'IMPORTANT! EXPOSE ILLEGAL CLUBROOM OCCUPATION TO AUTHORITIES! FOR GLORY!'"

Haruhi: "Any idea what this means?"

Kyon: "...Nope, none at all."

"Normal days don't last very long when you're a member of the SOS Brigade."

dragon4dudes

2009-07-07, 08:31

The funny thing is that I am mildly allergic to shrimp...

What if the world was covered in gravy rather than affected by gravity?

Kudos to those who got the reference.

Aebliss

2009-07-07, 12:04

The funny thing is that I am mildly allergic to shrimp...

What if the world was covered in gravy rather than affected by gravity?

Kudos to those who got the reference.

I don't, so please enlighten me. ^^

OkamiNoKaze

2009-07-07, 12:33

It might just be me but I imagined a Haruki to be more along the lines of Fox Mulder from X-Files. But I guess this makes sense too.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 12:46

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-07, 13:10

Pretty sure the GAR thing was thrown in so he'd actually stand out, given the fact that Haruhi is basically a female version of a typical male lead.

... Someone's bound to chew me out for that one. :heh:

It's more because the overly energetic and happy male character type is a yaoi trope, and we wanted to avoid that.

Hence, genki becomes hotblooded instead.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 13:17

That, too. :heh:

dragon4dudes

2009-07-07, 16:50

Its a reference to the Nickelodeon cartoon Fairly Odd Parents. Don't ask why

Jintor

2009-07-07, 20:18

Request (Universe 1)

"The brigade meeting is over. Haruhi spent the meeting ranting about how we haven't accomplished anything of worth over the last summer (if only she knew...)and that we'd better shape up at once."

"She was also considering forcing Asahina-san into a french maid uniform for whatever reason, but I convinced her that the current one was much better."

"At least we're all in agreement on that."

"In any case, with Nagato closing up 'The Fall of Hyperion', the brigade meeting ended.'

""Haruhi and Koizumi left after Nagato, talking about something I probably didn't want to think about."

"I was about to leave myself, when I noticed Asahina-san sitting in Nagato's usual chair, looking out the window."

'Strange."

Kyon: "Asahina-san? Are you okay?"

Mikuru: "...*sob*"

"…!"

"She's crying! What did I do? Oh god, oh god, I better cheer her up quickly - Asahina-san must never be allowed to be sad!"

Mikuru: "Kyon... *sniff* kun..."

Kyon: "W-What is it, Asahina-san? Did someone hurt you? Was it Haruhi? Should I beat them up for you?"

Mikuru: "Can we... *sniff* talk about something?'

Kyon: "Certainly! I, er, what is it?"

"She looks up at me with those teary eyes. (So cute!) Hesitantly, she opens her lips, then closes them again."

Mikuru: "…"

Kyon: "What's wrong? Come on, tell me what's on your mind."

Mikuru: "..."

"This clubroom is full of bad memories for her. It's not the most constructive atmosphere for a heart-to-heart, either."

Kyon: "It's a nice evening. Why don't we walk around the school for a bit while we talk?"

"There won't be anyone around at this time anyway, except for a few overly-dedicated sports club members."

Mikuru: "...A-Alright."

"She slowly gets out of her chair, straightening her maid uniform as she does so."

Kyon: "I'll wait outside while you change."

Mikuru: "W-What's the point?"

"Wha--? That was a curt response, the sort I've never heard from her. She must really feel terrible if she doesn't care about being seen dressed as a maid. I must fix this problem at once."

"As I close the door behind me, I hear the sound of water dripping into water, creating ripples. Stupid old shack, it's never been maintained properly. I pay it no heed; Asahina-san is far more important."

[Scene: Hallway]

"We wandered around for about ten minutes before Asahina-san said anything."

Mikuru: "I always feel... like I can't do anything."

Kyon: "That's not true, Asahina-san! You're capable of many things."

"Like sewing, and cooking, and making tea, and looking pretty in cute outfits... actually I can see what she means."

"But Asahina-san just shakes her head."

Mikuru: "That's something I've thought for a long time now. It doesn't matter. What matters is..."

Kyon: "Go on."

Mikuru: "...I'm afraid of no longer existing."

"Strange thing to be afraid of. But then again, Asahina-san is from the future, a fact which I tend to forget."

Mikuru: "Kyon-kun, remember how I couldn't contact the future when we were stuck in that loop?"

Kyon: "How could I forget?"

Mikuru: "It was like my future really was no longer there. That it no longer existed."

Kyon: "Wait, that should be impossible, right? Couldn't it be that the future was just... sealed off?"

Mikuru: "How I know is classified information, but... that should be more impossible than the future not existing."

Kyon: "But, then..."

"If that's true, and her future no longer existed, then..."

"Asahina-san turns to me, tears building in her eyes again."

Mikuru: "See? If my future is gone, I should be...I should be... *sob*"

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1)“You'd be dead, right?”
2)“You'll still be around.”

Tact?

Kyon: "Well, you'd be dead, right? You'd cease to exist?"

Mikuru: "*sniff* So, even Kyon-kun thinks so... I... I... waaaaaaaaah!"

"Oh no no no, I shouldn't have said that. She's broken into full-on tears."

"Crap, I gotta do something."

Kyon: "W-wait, hold on, Asahina-san! You're still here! You're not dead!"

Mikuru: "It's *sob* all fake! I'm just a *sob* puppet! I don't really exist!"

Kyon: "No, it's not like that at all!"

"This is entirely my fault for not supporting her when she needs it the most. I have to comfort her somehow, but everything I say seems to make it worse!"

Kyon: "C-Come on, let's just head back to the clubroom. I'll make you some tea."

"I'm so sorry, Asahina-san. Please forgive me."

"I support a still-crying maid back to the brigade headquarters. Opening the door, I see-"

"ALT."

"FUNCTION FOUR."

"This universe turns off and another one begins."

"Hey, hey, I got a puzzle for you."

"Which came first? The real, or the true?"

"Answer that question, and you'll understand something of value."

"Maybe. Or maybe everything I say is just a, haha, 'green herring'."

"Oh lord that's so funny hahahahahahahahaha!"

"*KSSSSSSSSSH*"

Gratitude

Kyon: "You'll still be around. After all, you're here now, right? Even without a future, Asahina-san is still Asahina-san."

Mikuru: "E-eh?"

Kyon: "You're the same person, regardless of whether you're from this time or not. You won't cease to exist. I think Haruhi likes you too much to let that happen."

"Although whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I don't know."

Mikuru: "K-kyon-kun... *sniff* Kyon-kuuuuuuun!"

"A teary maid throws herself at me in a hug."

"…! This is not the reaction I was expecting! Damn, this isn't good, I want to embrace her and what if Haruhi sees us man she's so cute."

"Fortunately for my dignity, Asahina-san seems to realize where she is and backs off a bit."

Mikuru: "I-I'd never thought of it like that. Thank you so much, Kyon-kun."

Kyon: "It's uh, er, no trouble at all. Anyway, let's head back to the clubroom so you can change."

"You don't want to go home looking like somebody's servant, after all."

"I walk a smiling Asahina-san, her tears dried, back to the brigade headquarters. We talk about normal things along the way."

"Opening the door for her, I see-"

"ALT."

"FUNCTION FOUR."

"This universe turns off and another one begins."

"Hey, hey, I got a puzzle for you."

"Which came first? The real, or the true?"

"Answer that question, and you'll understand something of value."

"Maybe. Or maybe everything I say is just a, haha, 'green herring'."

"Oh lord that's so funny hahahahahahahahaha!"

*KSSSSSSSSSH*

Selofain

2009-07-07, 23:36

Hi there.

So, for the past month or so, in between bouts of work, Guitar Hero/Rock Band, and the various odd inconveniences of life (eating, sleeping, etc.), I have managed to read every single page of this thread.

You guys have made Seitenkan amazing. I love the novel rewrites and the visual novel work so far. Aebliss, your Setsubun story is awesome. I actually thought it was a genderbent version of one of the stories, except it didn't sound too familiar. Then I noticed the "Fanfiction" heading. :p

On my quest through this thread, I came across a couple posts I thought would be useful to include in your FAQs post (that isn't already there).
Kaisos' post on the differences between genderbent and non-genderbent characters (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1842953&postcount=11617) (in the rather unlikely case that it comes up again)
dkellis' treatise on why Kyonko is moe (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2063219&postcount=12980) (more for the lulz than anything, really)

I'm more of a lurker than a poster, so don't be surprised if this is the first and last post you ever see from me. I thought I was going to be another one of those talentless (invisible) moral supporters, but then I saw this post.

Hey, just 'cause I don't post much doesn't mean I'm lost, dead, or not keeping up with the thread; I just don't have much to post. Y'see, I got hit with some crazy artist's block awhile back and it still hasn't gone away completely. More artists would definitely be helpful too. I'm in way over my head here. I'm sure anyone with even just a smidgen of artistic talent can help in one way or another. All you guys lamenting that you can't be useful (ie: wittyusername :p) could probably assist somehow. You don't need to be Van Gogh to apply colors, nor do you need to be Da Vinci to do little touch-ups. These two things alone could potentially save tons of time. All that's really required is a copy of Photoshop or possibly even Gimp ('Cause not everyone has $800.00 american lying around.).

What I'd like to see most are people who would be willing to assist in outlining character sketches, people to assist in color application, and people to assist in touching up the graphics once they're finished (Like erasing any colors that get outside the lines or smoothing out the lines themselves if they need it. It's boring, sure, but it would be very helpful if I didn't need to spend so much time on each individual image.

If you're still looking for help with this, I'd be glad to volunteer. I have photoshop, so it'd be no problem for me to do touch ups or add flat colors to a drawing. I could ink too, if you don't mind the flatness that comes with using the pen tool. I have no art skills (NONE), but I work pretty fast with a tablet (lol what am I doing with a tablet if I can't draw), which I guess is good, since my free time is limited to evenings.

And with that intro post, happy Tanabata everyone.

(Oh, and Jintor, same one from ASN?:heh:)

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-07, 23:57

I honestly don't remember either of those posts.

In any case, it's great to see there's still actually something being done here by someone other than Kaisos and Jintor... though I really don't have much room to talk. :heh:

Aebliss

2009-07-08, 00:12

Hi there.

So, for the past month or so, in between bouts of work, Guitar Hero/Rock Band, and the various odd inconveniences of life (eating, sleeping, etc.), I have managed to read every single page of this thread.

Whoa. I am impressed. I gave up on reading the whole thing myself a while ago. ^^;

You guys have made Seitenkan amazing. I love the novel rewrites and the visual novel work so far. Aebliss, your Setsubun story is awesome. I actually thought it was a genderbent version of one of the stories, except it didn't sound too familiar. Then I noticed the "Fanfiction" heading. :p

Why, thank you!

If you're still looking for help with this, I'd be glad to volunteer. I have photoshop, so it'd be no problem for me to do touch ups or add flat colors to a drawing. I could ink too, if you don't mind the flatness that comes with using the pen tool. I have no art skills (NONE), but I work pretty fast with a tablet (lol what am I doing with a tablet if I can't draw), which I guess is good, since my free time is limited to evenings.

I figure you're going to be a very popular person around this forum soon. ^^ Welcome aboard!

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-08, 00:23

@Selofain: Reading your post is great way to kick off the reformatting of my computer.

Jintor

2009-07-08, 00:31

(Oh, and Jintor, same one from ASN?:heh:)

...oh gods

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-08, 01:26

Someone you know, chief editor?

Jintor

2009-07-08, 01:33

Someone who knows me from elsewhere... apparently

I don't even remember posting there, so I have no idea how I was on those forums.

==;;

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 01:36

There is also the distinct possibility that there is another Jintor on the internets.

Ithekro

2009-07-08, 01:40

Cound be his genderbent version.....

besieger

2009-07-08, 02:47

Cound be his genderbent version.....

This.

And Welcome to Seiteikan!/Bienvenue a Seiteikan! Or whatever.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-08, 03:30

Welcome, Selofain. You seem useful, you'll do well here. >_>

Kaisos' post on the differences between genderbent and non-genderbent characters (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1842953&postcount=11617) (in the rather unlikely case that it comes up again)

Bloody fuck, I wrote that? I barely remember it...

Amusingly, my ideas for voice actors has changed, but little else has... aside from Itsuko being played with for lot more sympathy than Itsuki, I guess.

Jintor

2009-07-08, 07:01

There is also the distinct possibility that there is another Jintor on the internets.

I've looked. I'm the only Jintor ever.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 07:07

"Results 1 - 10 of about 5,670 for Jintor"

You seem to get around a lot... and... I can't believe that quote popped up when I searched for my name :heh:

Jintor

2009-07-08, 07:09

Granted, a lot of them are from seperate forum threads saved across multiple archive thingies, but yeah.

Sho-tan

2009-07-08, 07:36

Well, I can't possibly match Selofain's awesome introduction, but here goes.

Hello to all in the forum. After much lurking around in these forums, I finally decided to make an account here. I discovered Haruhi not too long ago, and slowly became a Haruhiist. Subsequently, I discovered the genderbending project.

I guess you could call it a mixture of Crack and Awesome, kinda like an ice cream cone laced with cocaine.

And you know what? I wanted to be a part of this Crack-Awesome project. (Though I'll mostly be sitting in the sidelines shouting "Do your best!") I don't want to drag this introduction any longer than it already is, so I'll just say this. I hope to be an asset to this "team".

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 07:38

Well, SlaveMonkey, I'm sure you'll be able to fit right in.

dragon4dudes

2009-07-08, 07:41

Wow another 2 newbies in 1 day. Welcome. At this rate, we'll have the world in our hands in...

6,000,000,000 people * insert population growth rate crap / 2 people per week

...well, a while.

vivify93

2009-07-08, 07:52

(Though I'll mostly be sitting in the sidelines shouting "Do your best!")
You are now assimilated into the "Ganbatte Kudasai" section of Seitenkan.

I actually should totally start this. :heh: How many GaKus are there? I only really know of Witty, Beanbag, and I.

Sho-tan

2009-07-08, 07:55

Well then, what should we call the group?

EDIT: No wait, that's stupid. We can just use that.

vivify93

2009-07-08, 08:09

Hah, the funny thing is that Witty's 13, you're 14, and Beanbrew and I are 16, meaning that generally, it's the lower-aged teenagers that are the useless ones Ganbatte Kudasai members.

Sho-tan

2009-07-08, 08:11

Perhaps we'll get less useless as we age. That said, we're getting off topic again.

vivify93

2009-07-08, 08:14

The off-topic thing happens a lot. >_>

Also,
You seem to get around a lot... and... I can't believe that quote popped up when I searched for my name :heh:
Which one? The "Haruki crotch" quote which used to be my GameFAQs signature, or the "Please Note: Kogetsu Shirogane..." quote?

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 08:17

... the first one... I will forever be associated with Haruki's crotch now :heh:

*e* Also, age has nothing to do with being useless...

vivify93

2009-07-08, 08:17

You're welcome. :p

EDIT: Wow, I've been posting a lot lately. Granted it's all crap, but still.

Anyhow, I'm off to a crazydoctor's appointment today to make me less crazy, so I'm off.

Make progress while I'm gone so I can go "Ganbatte Kudasai!!!", plz.

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 09:43

The off-topic thing happens a lot.
There's an on topic? Downtime and pointless discussions are important to overall work ethic!

Coincedatally, my name for this thread brings up a comment I had on Mitsuuru and body pillows. :heh:

All right, I'm finally back and re-adjusting to the internet. Seems I missed stuff while I was gone. I even missed the premier of the Kyou OVA! I've been waiting for that since it was announced!

Progress on my Live Alive is coming along. Mountain air and lake scenery helps you think.
Kyon(ko) really thinks a lot in this one and it's hard to change up a story which is mostly just internal monologues.

Although I did have one question that I need answered.
What did we decide to do for the movie?

Also, I got a kickass idea for a fic. Maybe I'll explore it after Live Alive.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 10:26

I think the idea for the movie was "MANLY HOTBLOODED DISPLAY OF MANLINESS!! (starring Mitsuuru)"

wittyusername

2009-07-08, 10:42

(Though I'll mostly be sitting in the sidelines shouting "Do your best!")

You will fit in well with the GANBATTE KUDASAIII~/moral support sector of this.

Which I didn't know was an actual thing until like five minutes ago though that might have something to do with having just woken up five minutes ago NO I MUST NOT RAMBLE oh shit now I sound like I should be in Evangelionnnnthisisnotshuttingup

Also whoa Thornhill

Anyhow, I'm off to a crazydoctor's appointment today to make me less crazy, so I'm off.

I think I need to go see a crazydoctor.

Actually, an optometrist, but still.

There's an on topic? Downtime and pointless discussions are important to overall work ethic!

Sometimes this thread makes me believe that the topic is actually every off-topic discussion that's ever happened here.

Coincedatally, my name for this thread brings up a comment I had on Mitsuuru and body pillows. :heh:

Googling my name for this thread brings up someone else's YouTube account, a couple of MySpaces here and there, and a disturbing amount of Yahoo Answers pages.

Even my Google results are boring. :(

Bloody fuck, I wrote that? I barely remember it...

...I remember when that was posted. o__o

Why is this post so unnecessarily longgg

scify

2009-07-08, 11:12

Sadly, my name pulls up corruptions of Sci Fi for the most part... though one of my other accounts does pop on the first page of Google results.

There's a photo account out there somewhere (flickr, I think) that uses this name and has a bunch of pictures of some Emo kid. This is not me.

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 11:18

I'm proud because mine is apparently a very unique name and the only results are from things I've done! :D
Or maybe it's just because I've got numbers in my name.
You will fit in well with the GANBATTE KUDASAIII~/moral support sector of this.
The cheering section is very (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH6aDKE_0IA#t=09m36s) important (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLW7xjl9weU#t=06m10s).

Solais

2009-07-08, 11:26

Googling my name brings up articles about the Irish artifact called Claiomh Solais, The Sword of Light, where I got my name, so yeah. Not really original. I first used it in a japanese Mabinogi server, back when there weren't any English ones.

Btw, I don't really know which group I belong, while I'm cheering the gang, I just randomly pop up in random situations, usually talking about off-topic. And stuff. Of course, maybe I could contribute to the project, but I won't do that. I don't want to. I have my reasons. It's perfect without my help.
Maybe I belong to the "random lurker's group who lurks here all day".

Joe4evr

2009-07-08, 11:42

Maybe I belong to the "random lurker's group who lurks here all day".Well, reserve a seat in that group for me too, then.

Speaking of Googling one's name, a friend of mine did it once and had exactly 69 results.:heh:

My name returns (among other things) a few profile pages, this thread (lol), and for some reason a Flickr page (while I have never and will never use it).:confused:

Selofain

2009-07-08, 11:45

NINJA POST FROM WORK
You guys all post while I'm working/sleeping. ;-;

A quick google of my name only shows stuff I've done. Even stuff I haven't touched in years. Wow.

And I only ask about Jintor because that's the only other forum I go to, and I was surprised to see a familiar name. (Wait, we are talking about the same ASN? Avatar, dorky princes, tent sounds? A rabid shipping thread that turned to CRACK?) Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. I have been neglecting that forum to read this thread...

Wait, I'm contributing to the off-topic? UH UH I have a strange desire to see HarukiXKyon Seitenkan!

back to work

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 11:55

The image results bring back old avatars and avatars of people I know. Taking off filtering brings more avatars of people I know and stuff that I've posted in the image threads or at least replied to. Don't worry about the no filtering. Swtrooper42 is a work safe term.

Crap, we've gone off topic again. Hold on, I've got something.

As I was writing I began to think about Kyon's personality a lot. So I've come to a conclusion.
Kyon is really anti-social isn't he?
I mean sure, before the SOS brigade he hung out with Taniguchi and Kunikida, but he mentioned he only does that so that he doesn't look like some loner in the classroom.
You know, like he actually is.
Actually, I think he at least views Kunikida as an upgraded aquetence. But he still hangs mostly by himself.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-08, 12:27

I'm proud because mine is apparently a very unique name and the only results are from things I've done! :D
Or maybe it's just because I've got numbers in my name.

In all fairness, the results for my name are all connected to me... unfortunately. :heh:

As I was writing I began to think about Kyon's personality a lot. So I've come to a conclusion.
Kyon is really anti-social isn't he?
I mean sure, before the SOS brigade he hung out with Taniguchi and Kunikida, but he mentioned he only does that so that he doesn't look like some loner in the classroom.
You know, like he actually is.
Actually, I think he at least views Kunikida as an upgraded aquetence. But he still hangs mostly by himself.

I'm pretty sure the only reason he doesn't really spend a lot of time with Kunikida is because the latter is almost always with Taniguchi... and I suppose Haruhi forcing her way into his daily life had a lot to do with it, too. :heh:

Heatth

2009-07-08, 12:31

Kyon seems to have a lot aquetence, but few friend (by "few" I mean the SOSDan). Realy, Kunikida was just "a guy who he knows from middle school". The only person who he hangs up on middle school was Sasaki (to the point that every one thinks that she was his girlfriend). And even her se wouldn't call "close friend" (even though she would).

So, yeah, he is very lony.

BTW, if you google my nick you will find a lot of misspell... Well, my nick is a misspell anyway.

Solais

2009-07-08, 12:36

As I was writing I began to think about Kyon's personality a lot. So I've come to a conclusion.
Kyon is really anti-social isn't he?
I mean sure, before the SOS brigade he hung out with Taniguchi and Kunikida, but he mentioned he only does that so that he doesn't look like some loner in the classroom.
You know, like he actually is.
Actually, I think he at least views Kunikida as an upgraded aquetence. But he still hangs mostly by himself.

That actually makes a lot of sense, and is something I've always wondered about. It's mostly because of the similar RL personalities (at least people I know always said I'm a lot like Kyon, with Haruhi's common sense - and I know, dunno, 4 people?), but I've always wondered about when he states that he's a "normal" student, while here loners are considered to be freaks.

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 12:54

Now I just have to post this:
"Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. ... Anyone who ... does not partake of society is either a beast or a god."
~Aristotle's Politics

beanbrew

2009-07-08, 13:15

A lot of the google results for "beanbrew" do seem to be related to me, but there are some weird things that aren't me... Like the Twitter account that comes up. That definitely isn't me. Unfortunately, there are also things that come up that I'd prefer not to... Like completely disappearing when I was supposed to be an editor for Mitsuganae... :heh:

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-08, 13:25

Kyon is nowhere near normal. That much should be obvious.

Also, as for googling names, all you come up with for me is, well, me.

Because I made up this name... :heh:

vivify93

2009-07-08, 15:43

I have a strange desire to see HarukiXKyon
Same here, but it's not so strange to me. :p

Googling my name gets...

- My RHDN account.
- My Lufia World account.
- My K1 Anime account.
- My Code Twink account. I just visit the site to get GameShark codes, really.
- My AnimeSuki account, including posts in this topic.
- Various forum accounts, which I'm registered to under this name, I don't visit.
- Some tabletop RPG spell that costs 93 DKP.
- Some paper by some dude.

besieger

2009-07-08, 15:47

Googling my name will return a PC game. :D

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 18:34

In all fairness, the results for my name are all connected to me... unfortunately. :heh:
My favorite thing that came up for you was "Clearly Haruki's crotch is the crotch that will pierce the heavens!"

Nice quote to be remembered for.:heh:

I have a strange desire to see HarukiXKyon
Dammit, now I've got gay pairings on my the mind. Thanks.
We need more Tsuruya(F)XHaruhi Tsuruya(M)XHaruki HaruhiXKyon

Sho-tan

2009-07-08, 19:20

swtrooper42

2009-07-08, 20:36

Actually, I think that Kyon is a lot like Haruhi in regards to the social department.

I think they originally bonded over a single issue, that the world is a very boring place. Sure Kyon claims to have given up on his fantasies, but he wished for most of his life that the world and his personal life were more interesting. After all, Kyon is an unreliable narrator, we have only his word on these feelings.

Both have a reputation of being loners (Kyon at least attempts sociability).

I think Kyon originally bothers with her because he sees a bit of his old self in her. Plus the fact that she's attractive.

Was there a point to what I just wrote? It seemed all over the place. Man I love to ramble.

Jintor

2009-07-08, 20:40

And I only ask about Jintor because that's the only other forum I go to, and I was surprised to see a familiar name. (Wait, we are talking about the same ASN? Avatar, dorky princes, tent sounds? A rabid shipping thread that turned to CRACK?) Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. I have been neglecting that forum to read this thread...

I left ASN after the show ended partially because there wasn't much to talk about afterwards and partially because a forum full of 12 year olds simply couldn't sustain itself indefinitely on nothing at all.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-08, 20:54

I think Kyon originally bothers with her because he sees a bit of his old self in her. Plus the fact that she's attractive.

The novel pretty much implies this, yeah. >_>

scify

2009-07-08, 22:13

Point of order from the psychologist side of me?

Kyon as you are describing him would be asocial, not antisocial. They are very different things. Asocial means that you don't spend much time associating with other people. Antisocial means you are most likely a criminal (or skate very close to the grey side of the law).

And I've never pictured Kyon (or Haruhi, by swtrooper42's extension) as lonely; indeed, they seem to be able to function pretty well without many close friends. If Kyon were lonely, he'd likely spend time lamenting his lack of friends during his inner monologue moments (and not, specifically, the sort of friends he has).

Sho-tan

2009-07-08, 22:50

I'm pretty sure that in book 1, Haruhi clearly showed that she didn't want friends. (At least, of the human variety.)

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 02:23

I'm pretty sure that in book 1, Haruhi clearly showed that she didn't want friends. (At least, of the human variety.)

The fact that she does want friends does make her rather lonely though, I'd think.

She's looking for someone that's as special as she feels she is.

She finds Kyon. What does that say?

And I've never pictured Kyon (or Haruhi, by swtrooper42's extension) as lonely; indeed, they seem to be able to function pretty well without many close friends. If Kyon were lonely, he'd likely spend time lamenting his lack of friends during his inner monologue moments (and not, specifically, the sort of friends he has).

Kyon is a liar half the time, though.

But you're right in that he's not lonely. As has been said, he only has friends so he doesn't look like a loser. If image didn't matter to him, he wouldn't have friends at all.

It's notable that he never made an effort to contact Sasaki after he left middle school, either, even though he probably had a crush on her. To Kyon, people are, well, a bother, which is why he complains all the time.

More importantly, doesn't this make Kyonko even MORE moe?

Ithekro

2009-07-09, 02:38

In what way does that make Kyonko more moe?

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 03:07

My favorite thing that came up for you was "Clearly Haruki's crotch is the crotch that will pierce the heavens!"

Nice quote to be remembered for.:heh:

My lamenting over that quote is what started the discussion...

Well, that settles it. Kyon is god.

Actually, he's more of a beast... of burden.

Antisocial means you are most likely a criminal (or skate very close to the grey side of the law).

Um, no. Being antisocial simply means you don't like dealing with other people.

She's looking for someone that's as special as she feels she is.

Technically, Haruhi is looking for someone as special as she wants to be. Her entire motivation for everything she does is simply wanting to be more than just another person.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 03:09

Technically, Haruhi is looking for someone as special as she wants to be. Her entire motivation for everything she does is simply wanting to be more than just another person.

Fair enough. Still, she finds Kyon... who, thanks to her, becomes as special as she wants to be.

Poor Kyon.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 03:13

Hey, at least he enjoys it. When his life isn't in danger. :heh:

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 03:15

Hey, at least he enjoys it. When his life isn't in danger. :heh:

Which is like, every two weeks.

dragon4dudes

2009-07-09, 07:31

So its like, "Lalala~ I'm enjoying life~ Sankyuu Haruhi (not really)."

-Two weeks later-

"Dammit Haruhi! STOP RUINING MY LIFE!"

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 08:19

For the record, Haruhi is only directly responsible for two known instances of Kyon's life being in danger(climax of Melancholy and the Mikuru Beam). Most of the time, his near-death experiences can be traced back to the Data-whatever(more times than I care to count), the Agency(once, with Kyon's "approval") or the time travelers(with Kyon putting himself in danger).

vivify93

2009-07-09, 08:45

Dammit, now I've got gay pairings on my the mind. Thanks.
We need more Tsuruya(F)XHaruhi Tsuruya(M)XHaruki HaruhiXKyon
Agreed on all three accounts. :heh:

EDIT: I have an urge to write that doesn't appear to be dissapating. So I want to write a quick HarukiXKyonko oneshot, but the thing is, I need the genderbent class list that was posted before. Anyone have it?

EDIT 2: Never mind... I should've just looked for it myself. That urge is gone. :(

scify

2009-07-09, 09:13

Um, no. Being antisocial simply means you don't like dealing with other people.

I was about to argue my point, but apparently the major dictionaries have caught up with social trends behind my back. I'm not very happy about it, but when the OED says something is English...

I would like to at least point out the prefix issue: Anti-against or opposed. A-without or lacking. Also, the disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder), which is the second base for my argument.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 09:53

Your "prefix issue" conforms to what I had said, as "antisocial" is essentially "against or opposed to interacting with others" by that definition.

Also, I am not arguing with you over whether or not Kyon is antisocial, I was simply pointing out that you had defined the term incorrectly.

ryanasaurus0077

2009-07-09, 12:37

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 13:19

Boredom + CRACK = this:

As I sat down, I noticed Nagato's eyes were fixed upon me. I couldn't help but wonder what it was he thought was important enough to call me to his apartment again. The last time the two of us were here alone, he gave me a long speech about Haruki being the key to auto... whatever. I don't even remember half of it.

As I was about to ask him why he wanted to see me, he began speaking.

"We are both familiar with the emotion that humans refer to as love. In addition, we are both aware of the fundamental guidelines for pursuing love."

Wait... what? This is rather sudden, Nagato.

"I am contemplating a long-term relationship between just two people. You would not receive this information from anyone but myself. I desire to let you know my current state of being. You need to fully comprehend this data."

Um... okay...

I'm not imagining this, am I? Nagato Yuuki, the usually silent bookworm of the SOS Brigade who is secretly an alien, is really trying to ask me out?

"We have been acquainted with one another for an extended period of time."

That's one way of putting it...

"You seem to desire something more from our friendship, but part of you does not wish to admit this fact. However, the two of us know that something is happening that may prove to be something more than mere friendship."

Well, okay. I'll admit you're attractive, and I guess I wouldn't mind being with someone like you, but... do I really seem like this?

"If you still need to inquire about me, I will put it in terms that make it clear."

No thanks, I think I've got it figured out.

"I am never going to give you up, nor will I disappoint you. You do not need to worry about me being with someone else while I am claiming to be faithful to you. I have no desire to make you sad or announce that I am leaving you. I will not tell you any false information that would cause you displeasure."

......

Is this a joke?

swtrooper42

2009-07-09, 13:26

....Did I just get rickrolled?
That's hilarious.

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-09, 13:30

Where the artists at? Rickrolling is so appropriate right now.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 13:30

Damn it, didn't even last ten minutes without someone spoiling it. :heh:

dkellis

2009-07-09, 14:50

Out of interest, before I actually update any of the archives, is anyone taking over (or interested in taking over) any of them? I must admit that I have no idea how I'm supposed to do and organize the visual novel archive; the fanfiction archive I'm still fine with.

I've actually done all the code-work on my backup text files, and all I need to do is copy-and-paste, but I'd like to confirm the situation first.

(And I haven't said anything in recent days because I have nothing substantial to say. I suppose I could post one-liner responses, but I feel more is expected of me.)

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-09, 15:07

I've unfortunately volunteered for far more than enough of the VN project as it is, and I'd end up with the same problem as you anyway. :heh:

However, I suppose I could take over the fanfic archive, should you ever want to actually drop it. I'm here practically every day, so it wouldn't be too much of a burden on me.

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-09, 22:32

Thanks to whoever gave me some rep.

@dkellis: I can take over after your next update if you'd like.

dkellis

2009-07-10, 12:14

Update has been made, although (obviously) some rearrangement of links may be necessary. Whenever you're ready.

Oi, Haruki, didn't you see the sign telling you not to just dive in? Think of the inconvenience you cause to everyone around you for once. This is a public municipal swimming pool, not a private SOS Brigade resort. Although with Itsuko in our group, maybe such a thing could exist.

"Unfortunately, these things will have to take time to arrange," Itsuko said, like a high-class department store assistant apologizing for running out of stock of a popular brand bag. "Even then, I cannot guarantee that our resources will allow us to present such a facility to Suzumiya-san's satisfaction. Or perhaps it is your own desire for the finer pleasures of life that made you bring up the subject?"

There are so many things wrong with that reply, it's probably best if I ignored it.

Haruki had gotten back out of the pool, and strode over to us, dripping water. "Why are you two just sitting there?" he demanded. "We've come all the way here, so it'll be a waste to laze about in the shade. You can do that at home."

"I shall be content to watch over our belongings," Itsuko quickly said. Damn it, now I have to think of another excuse.

"What about you, Kyon?" Haruki said. "Are you going to say that you want to keep Koizumi company? What's up with that swimsuit, anyway?"

How rude. This swimsuit may not look like much, but there's no way I can compete with Itsuko, so this is the best I can do.

"It's not even a school swimsuit," Haruki continued brainlessly. "Of course, I don't have any interest in that sort of thing, but you could give other people some service. Even the swimsuit you wore to that island was better. At this rate, people will say that you have no sex appeal whatsoever. Is that sort of thing okay with you?"

"Um, uh," Asahina-senpai said, "I don't think it's that-"

"Furthermore," Haruki said, ignoring him, "you haven't even touched the water yet. Is it your time of the month or something?"

You really want me to hit you, don't you, Haruki?

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-10, 12:17

So painfully blunt that guy.

Thanks for your work on the archive. Your job ain't appreciated enough. Now I have a reason to start catching up with all the material released as of late.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 12:25

Haruki is such an ass. :heh:

dragon4dudes

2009-07-10, 12:37

It's moments like these that make you wonder how Kyonko is able to stay with the SOS-dan

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 12:48

If she ever left, Haruki would hunt her down, drag her back kicking and screaming, and have Itsuko put her in some embarrassing outfit purchased specifically for such an occasion.

Sute443

2009-07-10, 13:25

If she ever left, Haruki would hunt her down, drag her back kicking and screaming, and have Itsuko put her in some embarrassing outfit purchased specifically for such an occasion.

Of course, considering that Kyonko isn't Mikuru, such an event would probably result in Haruki receiving a swift kick to the balls before he got her back to Itsuko. Which would then probably result in a Bad End and a reset to before such actions were taken.

I've never liked the idea of Haruki being able to get Kyonko to dress up like Haruhi got Mikuru to. Reeks of Otaku Stench.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 13:41

Of course, considering that Kyonko isn't Mikuru, such an event would probably result in Haruki receiving a swift kick to the balls before he got her back to Itsuko. Which would then probably result in a Bad End and a reset to before such actions were taken.

I did say "kicking and screaming," after all. :heh:

I've never liked the idea of Haruki being able to get Kyonko to dress up like Haruhi got Mikuru to. Reeks of Otaku Stench.

Eh... was going for a CaFS reference with that last part. Nothing more.

Pip

2009-07-10, 13:42

Hey guys, newcomer here! Can't draw or write long stories to save my life (unfortunately), but hope i can help with Jintor and Beanbrew's tl;dr editjobs, or at least add to some of the (many) discussions around here.

If I am in any way responsible for your shrimp craving, I apologize. :p
(sidetracked by ... mmm... shrimp... CURSE YOU!!!)

Still crawling through the backlog (OMGWTFBBQ 144 out of 870 pages!!! :bow: - took 4 days of free time and little sleep), but just out of curiosity, whatever happened to Vol. 2? Kaisos finished Vol. 1 in June 2008. This thread has sure SLOWED DOWN. Sorry if this has been gone over before.

If she ever left, Haruki would hunt her down, drag her back kicking and screaming, and have Itsuko put her in some embarrassing outfit purchased specifically for such an occasion.

Exactly. I imagine Itsuko would enjoy that a lot too. :heh:

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 13:44

Kai was doing the rewrite in chronological order. After the prologue, he started work on Boredom. However, that has been put on hold in favor of the VN project.

Ithekro

2009-07-10, 13:49

He lost intest in the rewrites (no artistic merit in them). However that was the original task and it does give more people a background to work with.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 14:00

That is a more accurate way of putting the situation. However, the question was what happened to Volume 2. :heh:

Pip

2009-07-10, 14:23

Wait.... Just to clarify, the VN project is? Crossroads? (Page 166 out of 870, making progress.)

On a side note, shrimp craving assuaged. (Read: up so late the wet market is open)

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-10, 14:24

Yeah. Sorry I wasn't clear on that matter. :heh:

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-10, 14:42

Wait.... Just to clarify, the VN project is? Crossroads? (Page 166 out of 870, making progress.)

The idea was that, since Haruhi has a tendency to use concepts that, in any other series, would be considered "dark", why not actually take the characters, both Seitenkan and originals, and make a rather dark story?

Heatth

2009-07-10, 15:18

The idea was that, since Haruhi has a tendency to use concepts that, in any other series, would be considered "dark", why not actually take the characters, both Seitenkan and originals, and make a rather dark story?

Oh, that was the idea? I thought it was justing using the "Tsugi" concept and do a nice visual novel with then. Using many diferent genres.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-10, 15:24

Oh, that was the idea? I thought it was justing using the "Tsugi" concept and do a nice visual novel with then. Using many diferent genres.

Not ALL the routes are dark, true. Just most of them.

Jintor

2009-07-10, 20:12

(Leaves me in Despair, really...)

swtrooper42

2009-07-10, 21:37

Looks like the main Seitenkan multi-link sig got hacked by something called the Anti-sec. Hope we had those images backed up.

Not ALL the routes are dark, true. Just most of them.
Good. Now we can take our frustration about Endless 8 out on the storylines.

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-10, 21:46

Looks like the main Seitenkan multi-link sig got hacked by something called the Anti-sec. Hope we had those images backed up.

I'm not following very well.

Good. Now we can take our frustration about Endless 8 out on the storylines.

That was already a part of it. Only thing is that now we feel more justified in making it more noticeable.

swtrooper42

2009-07-10, 21:50

I'm not following very well.
The signature links in your sig. Some of them aren't working. I got a different image that said they'd been hacked or something. Maybe it's fixed now.

Ithekro

2009-07-10, 21:51

Quote:
Originally Posted by swtrooper42 http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.style/default/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2506876#post2506876)
Looks like the main Seitenkan multi-link sig got hacked by something called the Anti-sec. Hope we had those images backed up.

I'm not following very well.

Imageshack seems to have been hit by something and a lot of there images are being overwritten or something by some propaganda message.

Or at least that is what I've been seeing for the last hour or two. Though some have reverted to a huge empty white space with that little red x for broken.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-10, 21:56

Good. Now we can take our frustration about Endless 8 out on the storylines.

One reason I didn't want to work on this is because the VN takes place after and is based on the consequences of Endless Eight. :heh:

But I can definitely channel my bitterness into this, yeah.

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-10, 22:16

Woah there it is. Funny because I viewed this page just a minute ago and the links were fine.

Annoying buggers. Take your frustrations out on another image hosting site.

vivify93

2009-07-11, 08:05

Luckily, I'm assuming I was fine as I'm using Photobucket.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-11, 08:41

I must've missed it as well. Ah well, no problems now, so I guess it doesn't matter in the long run. :heh:

Pip

2009-07-11, 12:38

By the way, on a side note, DKellis FAQ post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2426020&postcount=16323) doesn't talk about the current VN project under Crossroads. I should think enough work has been put into the current VN project that is deserves to be considered the Crossroads project.

For newcomers (like me), who haven't read the huge backlog (unlike the huge fandoms that are the mods of this thread :bow: - woah, more than a year of project work), it can be confusing to see a shift from the re-writes to the VN (and who knows what other changes i've missed or have yet to see scanning through 183 out of 800+ pages).

I think the FAQ post, or maybe the entry post, could contain a small explanation about what the current focus of the thread is about - maybe talk about the VN a bit and how progress is being made so far, explain the VN. That would make it a lot easier to jump into the thread without being confused or having to wade through the backlog.

Maybe an edit to the FAQ post of Dkellis might add something like this?

The current incarnation of the Tsuji/Crossroads project is a visual novel - an interactive story whose outcome depends in the various actions the reader makes at certain decision points. The visual novel is placed after Endless Eight in the canon storyline (and might spoil the end of Endless Eight).

Just a thought here, correct any misassumptions of mine.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-11, 13:02

dkellis

2009-07-11, 23:36

Actually, if possible I'd like something FAQ-worthy from Kaisos about whether or not he's still going to be working on the novel rewrites, and why he decided to switch to the VN.

By "FAQ-worthy" I mean "can copy-and-paste into the FAQ". I've learned from Real Life experiences (not first-hand, thankfully) that paraphrasing may lead to massive misunderstandings.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-12, 00:07

Paraphrasing is fine. I don't care.

Basically, I decided to switch mainly because I didn't see the novel rewrites really going anywhere or having much of a point. A visual novel however... it's like fanfiction, in a way. Artistically, it has a hell of a lot more merit than just rewriting someone else's work.

See, we had all these fantastic characters who embodied different archetypes than the original SOS-dan, and it seemed like such a waste if we just dropped them altogether. And that was about the time Danchou came up with the idea of us doing our own visual novel.

So yeah.

dkellis

2009-07-12, 04:13

Blame it on my journalism training. You would not believe the amount of Drama that can be generated from a single word choice ("comrade" instead of "teammate").

FAQ updated. I should remind everyone again that I don't really have so much time to think about every permutation of a question or problem that may crop up, so everyone is encouraged to suggest your own stuff to the FAQ if you want.

Heatth

2009-07-12, 05:38

While on the subject, shouldn't we elect a new Official Scribe for the rewrite?

This was a popular project so it should continue even without Kaisos.

Pip

2009-07-12, 05:58

While on the subject, shouldn't we elect a new Official Scribe for the rewrite?

This was a popular project so it should continue even without Kaisos.

That would be awesome. The main reason i joined this thread was Kyonko's moeness Itsuko fanservice the rewrite project. Even if Kaisos is unwilling to continue the rewrite project, I don't think work should halt completely on it. I really enjoyed reading the rewrites, and I think a lot of other people did too.

I can't write, but I can try editing the rewrite project if Jintor is busy.

dkellis

2009-07-12, 06:44

I can't write, but I can try editing the rewrite project if Jintor is busy.

Not meaning to single you out, but this bit is a good example of why there hasn't been a new official scribe.

I'm personally working on "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" and "Endless Eight", but I can't be the new official scribe, because I simply do not have the time. Specifically, the time to read the originals, rewrite them, and then keep checking back for edits to incorporate.

This is, after all, one reason why I never managed to get very far with the visual novel archive.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-12, 07:31

I'd do it, but I've got more than enough on my hands as it is. There's also the fact that I'd most likely end up getting too lazy and essentially c&p most of it, which wasn't the intention of the project. :heh:

Jintor

2009-07-12, 08:02

I'm also 'off' the rewrite project for the reasons Kaisos described. I might pick up one or two pieces (or just jump on things other people write) but you shouldn't consider me the 'chief editor' for the rewrite project.

On that note, I'd better start on the last couple of Kaisos posts.

Jintor

2009-07-12, 08:10

Open and Close

Kyonko: "...and that's why next time Haruki bullies you like that, you should punch him right in his stupid face."

"Unfortunately for me and my health, not to mention Asahina-senpai, as I speak these truth-filled words I catch the tell-tale creak of the clubroom door opening. Has Haruki returned to cause us more misery-"

"...Odd."

"The door's... shut."

Mitsuuru: "Something wrong, Kyon-chan?"

Kyonko: "...No, nothing. So, how do you feel now?"

"If Mitsuuru didn't notice it, I'm not going to pile more worries onto his little head."

Mitsuuru: "Much better, Kyon-chan. Thanks for listening."

Kyonko: "It's no trouble at all to listen to your problems, Senpai. Now, why don't you get changed so we can walk home together?"

Mitsuuru: "R-right!"

"I head out into the hallway to wait for him."

"I just can't shake this feeling that something was off. It's the same feeling as last night."

"And for some reason, at the same time I heard the door open, somewhere in the back of my brain I heard the sound of... ripples."

"I have doubts it's my imagination. Also, I guess I forgot to ask Nagato about the strange happenings of last night, as well. I guess I can add one more thing to the list of things I need to talk to him about."

"A knock on the door behind me.

Mitsuuru: "...Kyon-chan...?"

Kyonko: "What's up?"

Mitsuuru: "H-He really did take my school uniform... I don't have any c-clothes... h-help me, please..."

"..."

"But for now, it appears I have other things to deal with."

Jintor

2009-07-12, 08:30

Paradox, Redux

"I managed to get Asahina-senpai home by convincing him to wear that frog suit Haruki made us all work entirely too hard for."

"It was embarrassing for him, but compared to walking home dressed as a French Maid? It's... an improvement."

"Considering what happened this morning, I had been rather nervous about going back home, but my father seemed to have forgotten. Instead, he mentioned how great it was that I was taking more of an interest in healthy eating, but eating all the eggs is going a bit far, and that they don't help with breast growth either, if I was wondering."

"Sigh... yes, father, I'll go buy more eggs, even though I wasn't the one who ate them, since I've been home all day. Why am I always blamed for food going missing? Isn't it more appropriate to blame the younger, irresponsible sibling? And why this focus on breast growth?"

"And that's why I'm heading to the supermarket at night, to buy eggs so we can actually have breakfast tomorrow."

"...I'm going to kill my little brother."

"I've always been a little scared of the dark. I guess it's one of those primal fears all humans have."

"And like most humans, I'm also scared of what's in the dark. So of course, I screamed when something big and hunched over stumbled out of the bushes."

Man: "Uggh..."

"It's someone with long brown hair, wearing semiformal dress clothing, and clutching his chest in pain."

Kyonko: "Asahina... san...?"

Big Mitsuuru: "A-Ah, K-Kyon-chan, you r-remember me. Hrggggh... good. I made it to the right, urgh, time..."

"Like I said, Asahina-senapi is a time traveller, and this is him. From the future. To differentiate, I think of him as 'Asahina-san (that's Future him...) and 'Asahina-senpai (the 'present' him)'. If he weren't hunched over in extreme pain right now, he'd be his normal incredibly attractive self."

[Editor's note: I think 'Asahina-senpai (big) and Asahina senpai (small) are too unwieldy to use reliably. I favour 'Future Asahina' or something along those lines - there's got to be another way to name him...)

Kyonko: "A-are you okay, Asahina-san?!"

Big Mitsuuru: "Listen to me- grgggh... v-very carefully, Kyon-chan. What exactly happened today? Anything out of the ordinary?"

"…"

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1)“What do you mean, what happened to me? What happened to you?!”
2)“Nothing happened that I can think, of, no...”

Technobabble (I)

Kyonko: "What do you mean, what happened to me? What happened to you?!"

Big Mitsuuru: "What happened to me, would be a- aarrrgrggh... d-direct consequence of w-what happened to you."

"...Uh, what?"

"Sorry?"

Kyonko: "Unless you count me hearing a door opening when it wasn't, and hearing phantom sounds, nothing really strange happened at all."

Big Mitsuuru: You - Rrrghhh - damnit, urgh- you should have n-noticed more than that."

"I honestly can say that I didn't notice anything else."

Big Mitsuuru: "Tell me- ah, shit, arrrrgh- do you know what h-happens to a t-time traveler when their future... ceases to exist?"

Kyonko: "Well... they no longer exist?"

Big Mitsuuru: "That's how it's supposed to be- ffff... okay, okay... yeah. But then, do you know what happens to a time traveler when their p-past self c-ceases to exist?"

Kyonko: "The... the same thing...?"

Big Mitsuuru: "N-Not... exactly. It takes a while for the entropic effects to destroy the physical body completely, due to the... variance of the temporal... waves. Hrrggh, urrrk, goddamnit... In the meantime, the body experiences rapid... cellular deterioration, starting with the degradation of physical... Hrhrhgh... health. This is w-why I'm like this."

"I don't really understand what he just said, but... Asahina-senpai has vanished from the universe!?"

Big Mitsuuru: "N-No, not exactly. What I'm, rrggh, saying is that he v-vanished from the universe for fifteen minutes this afternoon. And I felt it."

Kyonko: "But, how? I was with him all afternoon."

Big Mitsuuru: "That's exactly it. You should have n-noticed something amiss, like a discrepancy in the... time, or something."

"I look at my watch. It says 20:46, and I left the house at 20:30, according to the clock above the stove, so it would seem that I didn't just disappear for 15 minutes today."

Kyonko: "Look, more importantly, are you really alright? Should I call an ambulance or something?"

Big Mitsuuru: "No, no, no hospital on this time plane can help me, and besides... rgggh... I'm feeling a little better now that my younger self has returned to the time stream. You should have seen me a couple hours ago..."

"You certainly don't look any better, though."

Big Mitsuuru: "I just came back to w-warn you, Kyon-chan. Be mindful of your surroundings in the next few days. Crghh... you never know what m-might happen."

"And with that, he walks unsteadily into the bushes, and vanishes from sight."

"...It would seem that I've gotten myself caught up in something again. Can't I have a single day's worth of rest?"

"I suppose rest is impossible when you're in the SOS Brigade."

Apologies

Kyonko: "Nothing happened that I can think of, no..."

Big Mitsuuru: "Ah, well then, I'm- gah, ffff- sorry. M-My apologies."

Kyonko: "More importantly, are you really alright? Should I call an ambulance or something?"

Big Mitsuuru: "No, no, no hospital on this time plane can help me. I'll be g-going now then, but..."

"But...?"

Big Mitsuuru: "Be mindful of your surroundings in the next few days. Crghh... you never know what m-might happen."

"And with that, he walks unsteadily into the bushes, and vanishes from sight."

"I get the feeling I'm caught up in something strange again. Can't I have a single day's worth of rest?"

"I suppose rest is impossible when you're in the SOS Brigade."

Jintor

2009-07-12, 08:35

Interlude 02: It's Too Dark in Here

"Two shadowed people sit in a very dark room, illuminated by the glow of a small, old television. Displayed on the television is the sleeping face of the boy nicknamed “Kyon”."

Shadow A: "Why are we watching him again?!"

Shadow B: "I told you yesterday, because he's cute."

Shadow A: "You know, watching people sleep while making comments like that is really creepy."

Shadow B: "You're one to talk. You wanted to spy on the girl. Now that's creepy."

Shadow A: "...It's creepy either way, whenever a guy or girl does it."

Shadow B: "No, it's romantic when a girl watches a guy sleep."

Shadow A: "Wha...? You of all people should know that gender has nothing to do with anything. It's all superficial crap anyway. At least I admit to being a pervert."

Shadow B: "…"

Shadow A: "Quit watching the boy sleep and listen to me for once!"

Shadow B: "What's up now?"

Shadow A: "You said we'd get to interfere this run around. Why haven't we interfered yet?"

Shadow B: "Because, dear Number Two, of subtlety."

Shadow A: "Screw subtlety. You want subtlety? Look at the last thirty-six times. Those changes were subtle."

Shadow B: "But they all lead to the same outcome, regardless. If we push the variables in the right way, we get a different ending. That's, like, chaos theory or something."

Shadow A: "Well, it's just that, you know..."

Shadow B: "What were you expecting you'd get to do?"

Shadow A: "I dunno. Kill something? Blow up a building? Turn everything on its head?"

Shadow B: "Patience, Number Two. You'll get to kill something soon. Maybe sooner."

Shadow A: "Haha, sweet. I like that kind of development."

Shadow B: "Hahaha."

Shadow A: "...Hahahaha!"

Shadow B: "...Hahahahahaha!"

Shadow A: "...Ahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!"

Shadow B: "HAHAHAH- you're right, it is too dark in here. Get the light switch, would you please?"

Shadow A: "Ah, sure."

Shadow B: "What's up? I don't see any light."

Shadow A: "... I... can't find the switch."

"The two shadows break out into raucous, laughter once more."

"And the TV winks out."

DAY ONE END

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-12, 08:41

I've always thought we were doing the following with Kyonko and the two Mitsuurus, to be honest. :heh:

Mitsuru: Haruki calls him "Mitsuru-kun". Otouto calls him "Mitsuru-san". Tsuruya calls him "Mitsuru". Kyonko calls the small version "Asahina-sempai", and the large version "Asahina-san". Yuuki calls him "Asahina Mitsuru". Everyone else calls him "Asahina-san".

Jintor

2009-07-12, 08:52

That's much more workable than "Asahina-senpai (big) and (small)." We'll go with that.

vivify93

2009-07-12, 09:51

That would be awesome. The main reason i joined this thread was Kyonko's moeness Itsuko fanservice the rewrite project.
Really!? I joined because of Kyonko's awesomeness promises of shirtless Haruki the idea seemed awesome to me at the time and still does.

...And you just reminded me I still have yet to finish Seitenkan's Melancholy. :uhoh:

swtrooper42

2009-07-12, 10:52

And I joined because Kyonko moe Taniguchi moe it seemed like an interesting project that would teach me more about the series. It has indeed given me a new way to look at the characters.

Now I gotta finish my version of Live Alive.:heh:

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-12, 12:37

I joined because I was bored they gave me money this amused me.

Now pardon me as I go back to not contributing anything anymore. :p

Solais

2009-07-12, 13:24

I joined because I haven't seen a place with so much Crack before it had a potential for great lurking it looked like an intelligent thread it had great ideas that worth stealing and using for my own works it's interesting and awesome.

Now pardon me as I go back doing my job (ie. lurking).

vivify93

2009-07-12, 13:40

I think Pip just made a fad that'll last a few posts it doesn't help that I'm instiagating this, does it? Pip just made a meme. :D

Now pardon me while I play ToP and PM with Witty.

Pip

2009-07-12, 15:15

I think Pip just made a fad that'll last a few posts it doesn't help that I'm instiagating this, does it? Pip just made a meme. :D

Now pardon me while I play ToP and PM with Witty.

It's a trap! IMMA FIRING MAH LAZER!!!11! Yay! I got something done on the internets.

But, on a more serious note, regarding the rewrite project:

Seeing as there has been no work on the rewrites recently, I did a draft of Sighs Chap 1 Part 1, loosely based on renrutal's work, but edited to prevent it from sounding like a C&P from BT.

It's not very good, as I find it hard to get into Kyonko's mind, and I have a tendency to looong sentences (must be part german), but it's a start. At least we sorta have a framework on which to argue, for those who still like the rewrites.

Feel free to read it, or not.

And Jesus told the servants to fill six water pots with water, and they did so. And when the master tasted of the water from the pots, it had become wine, and they knew not, hwence, it had came. But the servants knew, and they applauded loudly in the kitchen. And they inquired upon the Lord, "How the hell did you do that?!" They then asked, "Do you also do children's parties?", and the Lord replied, no.

Disturbing my semblance of a normal life, which got way too many disruptions as it was because of the merry band of men known as the SOS brigade (a.k.a. Suzumiya Haruki’s lackeys), was the high school sports day.

When Haruki insisted with his usual passion that the SOS Brigade participate in the inter-club relay race, one of the many competitive events held that day, I regarded the idea with much doubt and misery. Haruki’s extreme passion, unshared by the rest of the club, would surely lead to much effort and pain expended – especially on the part of the beleaguered Mitsuuru, who would no doubt be bullied by an aggressive Haruki dedicated to making him more manly. At the end, we probably would still fail horribly and lose to the athletics clubs, because none of our members – except for Haruki - are actually any good at sports.

The universe, apparently, loves to prove me wrong. Not surprising, given that Haruki was, according to Itsuko, God.

To our great detriment, we somehow ended up defeating the Athletics club and the Rugby club, where Haruki actually overwhelmed the second place runner by an amazing 100 feet!

[Note: converted horse lengths into a more common length measurement for ease of understanding]

As a result of this surprising victory, our club went from being an unspoken taboo that no one except me spoke of in public, to the center of the school’s attention, in the same way everybody notices a troublemaker who pulls fire alarms in school. Naturally, Haruki was the instigator of all of this, but Nagato, who ran the second leg of the relay, was equally to blame. Using his abilities, he raced past the other competitors almost too quickly to see.

[Note: replaced some phrases just to avoid sounding like a C&P from Baka-Tsuki, which it is… *Goes off tangent*]

Nagato, I wish you’d warn us before pulling a stunt like that.

Afterwards, when I asked Nagato what he did THIS time; the Integrated Data Sentient Entity terminal uttered a brief but utterly impenetrable explanation regarding “energy positioning”, “inertia suppression”, and other such jargon – none of which made any sense to me. Good thing I decided to go for the arts rather than the science curriculum for high school – I leave science to the scientists and let the rest of us get on with our lives peacefully.

The rest of the month proceeded without incident, finally giving me some time to rest from this madness. This promised not to last long, with the school festival coming up next month. Right now, everyone was busily preparing for the school festival, which involved much commotion, but no actual work. The only people actually doing anything were the teachers and members of the organizing committee, since it was their only chance to do anything of note for the year.

Now when it came to club-related contributions to the festival, the still unrecognized SOS Brigade was not required to provide any creative attractions. Though, knowing Haruki, it was impossible that he wouldn’t get bored with the admittedly bland ideas put up by the organizing committee and propose his revolutionary, highly passionate, scandalous, and crazy idea.

If I got to decide what our club’s contribution was to be, I’d avenge Asahina-senpai and lock Haruki up in a cage in his beloved Chippendales and sell pictures off to his fans. I could probably earn a lot in sales; Haruki is in fact attractive to a lot of girls, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he had secret admirers who had no idea of the insanity that is Haruki. But that would be unwise. If Haruki ever got wind of the idea, he’d quickly force it on Asahina-senpai, and neither of our situations would be improved. Better to keep my mouth shut.

That sort of attraction wouldn't have required any serious consideration for values and success - it didn't even require any real effort, considering his brute strength. The same could be said for the rest of the attractions. High school festivals in real life can be that gritty. If you think I'm joking, visit any school holding festivities. When you do, you will realize then that such attractions are pretty much considered a regular expectation of school festivals.

High school life can be severely different than an idealistic young girl would like to believe, no thanks to Haruki and his kind.

On the other hand, what did Class 1-5, the class Haruki and I belong to, intend to do? It turns out that we will be preparing some sort of lame questionnaire. I can see it only as a cover so as to appear to be organizing something for the festival without having to do anything. After Asakura Ryou and any semblance of a student leader disappeared mysteriously this spring, the class has performed as well as a rudderless ship. Without him, the class lost all hope of actually coming up with a creative or even satisfactory idea for the school festival.

After Asakura’s disappearance, Haruki initiated a coup to take over his vacant position. With a speech full of vitriol, he explained his unacceptable plans for when he was elected class president. The completely inappropriate speech shocked and disgusted most of the people in the room, especially the girls, but I wasn’t surprised. It was very typical of Haruki.

Needless to say…

He failed miserably.

Over most of the girls’ objections (and Taniguchi’s), Haruki’s plan was stopped. At the end, though, the class was too exhausted to actually come up with an idea, and now, thanks to Haruki’s unacceptable, unspeakable idea, this uncreative idea was painstakingly brainstormed for the homeroom by Okabe-sensei (don’t remember if this name was changed) after that crazy homeroom session. But what kind of questionnaire would we have? Who would actually be interested in doing this?

Probably no one, I suppose. But since it's been decided, keep up the great work guys!

And so, suffering from severe apathy (as well as a mild disappointment in our school administration), I walked wearily towards the clubroom.

Why did I even bother to go, you ask?

Naturally, this is because of a domineering guy coming towards me and rambling endlessly on the lines of, "A questionnaire? This is so stupid!" and the marginal and rapidly shrinking hope that if I went along with Haruki long enough, he’d eventually leave me in peace.

He said this with an outraged expression on his face. "I mean, who’d go along with that? Who does that principal think I am?!"

Who in their right mind would go along with your suggestion!? You should have known something like that would be stopped the instant Okabe-sensei revealed it for approval. And you didn’t even end up fighting for it! You sat there like MacArthur at Corregidor, defiantly acquiescing to the principal’s demands. [Ed note: defiantly acquiescing? Lol]

“Forget it. There’s no point in uselessly fighting against someone when you can win another way. Besides, it’s no fun organizing an activity with those guys.”
But weren’t you the one who wanted to contribute to the class by winning all of the inter-class races on sports day? I thought it was you who won as the last baton in the short, medium, and long distance relays. Or is my memory wrong?

"That was different."

What was different?

"A school festival is a school festival, or in other words, a campus festival. Though public schools are seldom called campuses, but that doesn't matter. After all, isn't the school festival the most important activity of the whole school year? It is absolutely necessary that we take charge and show the world our passion and school spirit!"

Is that so?

"Of course!" He nodded vigorously, then faced me and announced the following, "The SOS Brigade will definitely do something very interesting!"

The face of Suzumiya Haruki now shone with the same determined look as Hannibal, deciding to cross the Alps during the Second Punic War.

That face is NEVER a good sign.

vivify93

2009-07-12, 15:25

Sounds great so far, though I've actually yet to read Sighs. :heh:

Also,
If I got to decide what our club’s contribution was to be, I’d avenge Asahina-senpai and lock Haruki up in a cage in his beloved Chippendales and sell pictures off to his fans.
I need to get this plan into action... How much would these go for? :heh:

swtrooper42

2009-07-12, 18:23

Haruki attempting a coup of class leadership seems strangely in-character for me.
lol, unspeakable plan. Wonder what it could be.:heh:

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-12, 20:16

OkamiNoKaze

2009-07-12, 22:21

How did all the gender bending work out with the baseball episode, I was just thinking about, they didn't play team of girls did they? that would be kind of weird.

CrowKenobi

2009-07-12, 22:29

How did all the gender bending work out with the baseball episode, I was just thinking about, they didn't play team of girls did they? that would be kind of weird.From Dkellis' sig: (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1446680&postcount=860)

Boredom of Haruki Suzumiya, Prologue and part 1 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1745875&postcount=11192) (Discreet's edit of prologue (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1777762&postcount=11284), Discreet's edit of part 1 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1810298&postcount=11414)) - Haruki Kender
Boredom of Haruki Suzumiya, part 2 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1825482&postcount=11489) (Discreet's edit (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1835769&postcount=11560)) - Training montage
Boredom of Haruki Suzumiya, part 3 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1843288&postcount=11677) (Discreet's edit (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1872929&postcount=11862)) - Let's go to the ball game
Boredom of Haruki Suzumiya, part 4 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2282251&postcount=14033) (Jintor's edit (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2365869&postcount=14857)) - Blowout:D

Pip

2009-07-12, 23:21

... if I were to serve as editor for that, I'd end up replacing half the dialogue with references to other anime... heck, I can already see two places where I'd do just that.

But, if I were to make a serious suggestion... I'd love to see "Slaves Of Suzumiya" replacing the lackeys thing in the first real paragraph.

Sounds good. PC draft edit get! :heh:

Seriously, if you can add references to other anime, please do so. I have no idea how to do that without sounding hopelessly hamhanded. :(

*Looks expectantly at people*

Lol.

Edit: This rewrite is actually loosely based on Redlar's and not renrutal's work. In my lack of sleep I mixed up the names on the archive post. Sorry.

Pip

2009-07-13, 11:28

Massive (editjob? rewrite? halfway in between? something) INCOMING!!! WAHAHAHA

Shining he may be, but...

The first half of my new senior high school life has lost all semblance of normality thanks to Haruki’s peculiar, erratic interests and his extreme passion for following these interests to their problematic conclusions. It’s common knowledge that Haruki is the exact opposite of normal, while Koizumi seems to happily agree to everything Haruki says and does. And Nagato is unfazed by anything Haruki does or says – probably because he’s not human to begin with. I don’t think anybody can shake Nagato out of his standard uninterested stupor. So, my one and only companion on this lonely, tortuous road is Asahina-senpai, the only other normal person in the club, who also happens to be the one who can least stand up for himself. That bestows upon me the impossible burden of getting Haruki and the rest of the club out of trouble - something which happens fairly often.

With this Damocles’ sword hanging over my head, how am I supposed to peacefully live out the remainder of my extraordinary high school life? My school reputation has hit rock bottom as it is, and I don’t want to get involve in any further misadventures. The thought of it gives me the urge to point a gun at my head, or extract and burn the brain cells containing those memories. Though, if I ever did lose my memory, Haruki would probably take advantage of it and subject me to even further abuse.
[Note: That sounds… wrong somehow. :heh: *nosebleed* *Cue – “Let’s Get it On” by Marvin Gaye*]

Lost in thought, I tuned out the constant drone of the annoying guy seated behind me.

Suddenly, a shout punctuated the buzz of conversation that surrounded the classroom. The source of that shout was, unfortunately, two inches away from my ear.

An awkward silence settled upon the room.

Did you have to rupture my eardrum?!

"Hey, Kyon, are you even listening?" As usual, Haruki ignored my protests.

I sighed. "No, I wasn't. What were you talking about?"

"The freshman school festival! You ought to be more excited! This kind of event happens only once in our school lives!”

That may be true, but you don't have to be so concerned about it.

"Of course I have to be concerned! It won't be a proper school festival if it isn't exciting enough. It should be like the campus festivals that I know of."

Did you do something ridiculous while in junior high?

"No, it wasn't fun at all. So it won't be reasonable if the high school festival isn't fun as well. That’s why we will have to take immediate and drastic action!"

Then what is it that you find interesting, anyway?

"Like real monsters appearing in a haunted house, the number of steps in a flight of stairs suddenly increasing, the number of school mysteries jumping from seven to thirteen, an Afro hairstyle three times the size of a normal head appearing on the principal's head, the school transforming into a giant robot and doing battle with the monster from under the sea, or even autumn being represented by plum blossoms..."

Halfway through Haruki’s soliloquy, when he mentioned something about stairs, I tuned him out again. It sure was a lovely day outside. The buzz of conversation filled the classroom once again.

Haruki sighed. “Forget it. I'll tell you more when we get to the clubroom."

---

Thunderclouds hovering over his head, Haruki strode with large footsteps towards the clubroom, and in a moment's time, we arrived at the door. The sign above the door read, "Literature Club," and sellotaped under that sign was a piece of paper with scribbling that read "with the SOS Brigade."
[Note: Is sellotaped right? The original said cellotaped, but I don’t think that’s it. *Cue “Sellotape” by Flight of the Conchords*]

"Since we've stayed here for half a year already, I don't suppose anyone would mind if we claimed this room for ourselves. Not to mention we have the full permission of the Literature Club!" Haruki had unilaterally declared her sovereignty over the use of the room and wanted to remove the original sign, but I stopped her. After all, it's important for humans to maintain a certain amount of caution in their actions, especially when dealing with the Student Council, even if Nagato had given us permission.

Haruki barged into the room - without knocking, as usual - and standing inside was a fairy. When the fairy’s eyes met with mine, that person smiled like a lily blossoming.

"Oh... hello."

Wearing a maid costume and sweeping the room with a broomstick is, ironically, the best tea girl ever, the pride of the SOS Brigade – cute and timid Asahina Mitsuuru-senpai. Even if it seems weird to think of him as such, he falls into the role so naturally that you really can’t help it. No one would ever guess Asahina-senpai to be a time traveler from the far future sent to monitor Suzumiya Haruki.
[Note: I don’t remember if the maid thing really fully went through, or if it changed to being a butler uniform somewhere along the way.]

When you put it that way, it sounds even more patently absurd. But then again, what’s happened to me this past year is much more unbelievable than this.

Asahina-senpai was forcefully dragged over by Haruki during the founding of the brigade, as Haruki explained, "Well, look how cute he is! He’ll definitely draw lots of attention! He can be our mascot character!” Then under Haruki's demands and acute duress, he was forced to put on a maid costume and has since become the SOS Brigade's official maid. Every day after school, he would transform into the perfect maid. This is not because of any loose screws in her brain, but because of the loose screws in Haruki’s head. Until now, I still have no idea how Haruki intended this to make Asahina-senpai “more MANLY.” Maybe I should emphasize something: Haruhi's actions rarely have any rational meaning to them.

Asahina-senpai has been dressed up in a maid uniform, Chippendales, and all other sorts of costumes for the SOS Brigade. Yet I felt the maid costume suited him best. Maybe it’s because he looks so undeniably cute in that outfit.

I know, that scares me a lot too.
[Note: SUPRESSED SHOUJO FANTASIES!!! WAHAHAHA]

Yet his actions often become the trigger for an unexpected chain of events, and have put us into a lot of trouble, which, naturally, I had to deal with. It would probably be better for her actions to be meaningless.

With regards to this club, the often-eccentric Haruki has very rarely done anything correctly. Or should I say, he's only done one correct thing, and that is picking Asahina-san's maid costume. Much to my astonishment, it suits him almost too well. I don't know where he bought it or how much he paid, but, for a guy, Haruki does have good taste when it comes to costumes.

"I'll go brew some tea," Asahina-senpai said with his soft, adorable voice. He placed the broomstick back into the cleaning cabinet and scurried over towards the kitchen cupboard, taking out everyone's cups.

Ahh, why couldn’t every club meeting be this peaceful and relaxi-

My head suddenly suffered an intense pain, and when I came to my senses, I realized Haruhi had jerked my ponytail so I was now leaning back looking up at his close face.
[Note: fluster fluster fluster. AHIHIHIHI.]

W-W-What are you doing?!

"You had a dazed expression on your face."

Hey! Anybody would have the same reaction after seeing the adorably cute and shy Asahina-senpai in his oddly well-fitting maid costume, even if I do end up pitying him.

I REALLY need to stop thinking about it that way.

---

Haruki walked towards the desk with a black triangular spike that read "Commander," and took out an armband that also read "Commander" from the drawer and put it on. He then kicked the steel chair out from the desk and sat on it, surveying his meager empire.

Sitting by the corner of a table reading a thick book was another member of the brigade.

There, fully concentrated on reading her book is none other than Nagato Yuuki, the first year Literature Club student, who to Haruhi would be the "bonus gift that came with occupying the Literature Club room."

Her existence is just about as subtle as nitrogen in the atmosphere, yet of all the first years in the brigade she is definitely the most extraordinary. Her extraordinariness far exceeds that of Haruki. I know absolutely nothing about Haruki, yet while I do know something about Nagato, what I know only makes me even more confused about him. If I chose to believe all of Nagato’s explanations, then this tall, quiet bookworm lacking of expression, emotion, and empathy is not a human but a living humanoid interface created by aliens to interact with humans. No matter how you put it, it still sounds unbelievable. But then, given what happened regarding Asakura Ryou and the logic-defying situation of that encounter, I wouldn’t want to question this any further. Of course, Haruki doesn't know about any of this, even after my lame attempt at an explanation; after all, Haruki still treats her as "quite a weird bookworm."

Though, objectively speaking, "quite" is quite an understatement.

"Where's Koizumi-kun?"

Haruki set upon Asahina-senpai with his sharp glare. Asahina-senpai shuddered for a moment, then stuttered, "Eh...h...he's not here yet, she's quite late today..."

Asahina-senpai carefully brought out the tea leaves from the tin and placed them in the little teapot. I casually looked at the hanging rack by the corner of the club room. All sorts of costumes hung on top of it, like a theatre resting room. From the left hung the various costumes that Haruki forced upon Asahina-senpai.
[Note: Didn’t know what to put here instead of various costumes, but I see leopard skin, woolen frog puppet, Chippendales, sumo wrestler, and a Neko costume. :heh:]

For the past six months these costumes have all graced the warm skin of Asahina-senpai. To explain further, there is absolutely no reason for Asahina-senpai to wear these costumes, apart from satisfying Haruki's own ego. What sort of reason did Haruki have to do this to Asahina-senpai anyway? Maybe he suffered some sort of trauma in the past - like a secret love of dress-up dolls to play with, suppressed by excess testosterone?

No matter the reason, Asahina-san's emotional scars have increased as the days go by, while my visual senses get stimulated as a result. It makes me guiltily happy too, though it sometimes feels awkward to feel this way.

Sigh.

No one will benefit from my saying this anyway, so I’d best say nothing about it.

(PART 2 END)

THIS IS MADNESS! THIS... IS... SEITENKAN!

Hehehe. Benefits of not having school or schoolwork.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-13, 12:01

Bah, I'm bored enough now. :heh:

Haruki had unilaterally declared his sovereignty over the use of the room and wanted to remove the original sign, but I stopped him.

[Note: I don’t remember if the maid thing really fully went through, or if it changed to being a butler uniform somewhere along the way.]

I think it alternates, actually, depending on whether or not it'd be funnier to have him as a maid. In this case, I think maid would work.

This is not because of any loose screws in his brain, but because of the loose screws in Haruki’s head.

Asahina-senpai has been dressed up in a maid uniform, Chippendales, and all other sorts of costumes for the SOS Brigade. Yet I felt the maid costume suited him best. Maybe it’s because he looks so undeniably cute in that outfit.

I know, that scares me a lot too.
[Note: SUPRESSED SHOUJO FANTASIES!!! WAHAHAHA]

No problems here, I just felt like pointing this out because it's amusing. :heh:

It would probably be better for his actions to be meaningless.

There, fully concentrated on reading his book is none other than Nagato Yuuki, the first year Literature Club student, who to Haruhi would be the "bonus gift that came with occupying the Literature Club room."

His existence is just about as subtle as nitrogen in the atmosphere, yet of all the first years in the brigade, he is definitely the most extraordinary. His extraordinariness far exceeds that of Haruki. I know absolutely nothing about Haruki, yet while I do know something about Nagato, what I know only makes me even more confused about him. If I chose to believe all of Nagato’s explanations, then this tall, quiet bookworm lacking of expression, emotion, and empathy is not a human but a living humanoid interface created by aliens to interact with humans. No matter how you put it, it still sounds unbelievable. But then, given what happened regarding Asakura Ryou and the logic-defying situation of that encounter, I wouldn’t want to question this any further. Of course, Haruki doesn't know about any of this, even after my lame attempt at an explanation; after all, Haruki still treats him as "quite a weird bookworm."

... Please don't refer to Yuuki as a girl again. It hurts my head. :heh:

Haruki set upon Asahina-senpai with his sharp glare. Asahina-senpai shuddered for a moment, then stuttered, "Eh...sh...she's not here yet, she's quite late today..."

Oh come on... while I suppose we could blame this one on Mitsuuru being incredibly nervous, you have him referring to Itsuko with both male and female pronouns. :heh:

Maybe he suffered some sort of trauma in the past - like a secret love of dress-up dolls to play with, suppressed by excess testosterone?

Again, nothing wrong. Just pointing this one out because it's amusing. :heh:

And that's about all I saw...

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-13, 13:47

Not to do any bubble bursting, but if the novel rewrite is to continue, we're probably gonna be doing a lot more stuff starting from scratch.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-13, 13:58

No offense to Pip, but I think you're going to find it difficult to continue with some elements of Sighs.

We had discussions on the subject a while back... something about how Haruki, trying to make oodles of money, decides to make a film starring Itsuko with plenty of fanservice. Oh, and we had the Drunk Mitsuuru scene very different from how I get the feeling you're going to do it.

I appreciate your efforts, but I'd suggest you read through those discussions in the thread if you haven't already.

If you guys really want novel rewrites I can continue to do them, however. I just don't really want to, but I'd probably feel better if they were in my hands. (I never exactly thought they were very popular myself, but...)

Sorry.

Lord Vildrek

2009-07-13, 14:02

everyone here looks pretty busy lol =O

Heatth

2009-07-13, 14:21

If you guys really want novel rewrites I can continue to do them, however. I just don't really want to, but I'd probably feel better if they were in my hands. (I never exactly thought they were very popular myself, but...)

Sorry.

If you don't want to you sholdn't do it. I think it is no point doing something you don't like. (besides, I would prefer you focosing on the VN insted :p ).

Anyway, we don't need to elect a new writer. We could elect a "official" version for each story. People write some stuff, based on discussion, and the we make the our "cannon". I know that there aren't much point doing it (being just fanfiction) but have a "official version is easyer for newbies. Is not like everey one are going to read all on the archives (I don't). Like a communal fanfiction.
People stop (re)writing for now, but I am sure they will back if someone start it (like Pip)

Oh, yeah. There is a problem folowing early discussions. The tread is big. And full of off-topic. It is not easy find anything here. That is the whole point of the FAQ, so if anyone has the patient it would be nice to find and post here about the past important discussions (so dkellis could paste on the FAQ). At last for the current subject. Does anyone knows where we can find the discussion Kaisos talked about? (the Sighs movie one). I vaguely remenber, but no enough.

Pip

2009-07-13, 14:23

Not to do any bubble bursting, but if the novel rewrite is to continue, we're probably gonna be doing a lot more stuff starting from scratch.

No worries. It's just that the first two parts were the ones that were easy for me, since those had no required major changes because of gender issues. I ended Part 2 there because that was the end of the things that required little consideration, and more of just editing to match gender. A bit after that came the movie suggestion, and I have absolutely NO IDEA how to go through with that.

Not to mention I was working on Redlar and Mr_Zombie's works, which made my life much easier.

No offense to Pip, but I think you're going to find it difficult to continue with some elements of Sighs.

We had discussions on the subject a while back... something about how Haruki, trying to make oodles of money, decides to make a film starring Itsuko with plenty of fanservice. Oh, and we had the Drunk Mitsuuru scene very different from how I get the feeling you're going to do it.

I appreciate your efforts, but I'd suggest you read through those discussions in the thread if you haven't already.

If you guys really want novel rewrites I can continue to do them, however. I just don't really want to, but I'd probably feel better if they were in my hands. (I never exactly thought they were very popular myself, but...)

Sorry.

When I worked on the first two parts, I had no idea whatsoever about the rest of Sighs. Never thought about it that far. I just took it up for fun and the fact that I have nothing to do for summer when my summer sched is different from that of my friends. Switching school calendars is NOT fun. I definitely will not work on the rest of Sighs until I look through those discussions - and might not continue even after, 'cause I'd have no idea how to do it...

I dunno about the rest of the thread watchers, but I personally loved the rewrite works, but then, if you don't feel like doing them, I'd feel bad forcing you to work on them. After all, this thread IS an entirely voluntary work, done by fans, and I'm amazed by the work you've already done so far, and highly grateful. Not to mention I like the VN a lot as well.

Aaaanyway, if someone could give me a heads-up to the thread discussions of those scenes, that would be great. Hehehe. Might as well waste the rest of this unproductive summer, lest I get trapped in an endless loop of the last two weeks.

Boy, I sure did end up writing a long tldr rant. Sorry for the trouble. :(

Anyway, editjob done by Kogetsu Shirogane on part 2:

Shining he may be, but...

The first half of my new senior high school life has lost all semblance of normality thanks to Haruki’s peculiar, erratic interests and his extreme passion for following these interests to their problematic conclusions. It’s common knowledge that Haruki is the exact opposite of normal, while Koizumi seems to happily agree to everything Haruki says and does. And Nagato is unfazed by anything Haruki does or says – probably because he’s not human to begin with. I don’t think anybody can shake Nagato out of his standard uninterested stupor. So, my one and only companion on this lonely, tortuous road is Asahina-senpai, the only other normal person in the club, who also happens to be the one who can least stand up for himself. That bestows upon me the impossible burden of getting Haruki and the rest of the club out of trouble - something which happens fairly often.

With this Damocles’ sword hanging over my head, how am I supposed to peacefully live out the remainder of my extraordinary high school life? My school reputation has hit rock bottom as it is, and I don’t want to get involve in any further misadventures. The thought of it gives me the urge to point a gun at my head, or extract and burn the brain cells containing those memories. Though, if I ever did lose my memory, Haruki would probably take advantage of it and subject me to even further abuse.
[Note: That sounds… wrong somehow. *nosebleed* *Cue – “Let’s Get it On” by Marvin Gaye*]

Lost in thought, I tuned out the constant drone of the annoying guy seated behind me.

Suddenly, a shout punctuated the buzz of conversation that surrounded the classroom. The source of that shout was, unfortunately, two inches away from my ear.

An awkward silence settled upon the room.

Did you have to rupture my eardrum?!

"Hey, Kyon, are you even listening?" As usual, Haruki ignored my protests.

I sighed. "No, I wasn't. What were you talking about?"

"The freshman school festival! You ought to be more excited! This kind of event happens only once in our school lives!”

That may be true, but you don't have to be so concerned about it.

"Of course I have to be concerned! It won't be a proper school festival if it isn't exciting enough. It should be like the campus festivals that I know of."

Did you do something ridiculous while in junior high?

"No, it wasn't fun at all. So it won't be reasonable if the high school festival isn't fun as well. That’s why we will have to take immediate and drastic action!"

Then what is it that you find interesting, anyway?

"Like real monsters appearing in a haunted house, the number of steps in a flight of stairs suddenly increasing, the number of school mysteries jumping from seven to thirteen, an Afro hairstyle three times the size of a normal head appearing on the principal's head, the school transforming into a giant robot and doing battle with the monster from under the sea, or even autumn being represented by plum blossoms..."

Halfway through Haruki’s soliloquy, when he mentioned something about stairs, I tuned him out again. It sure was a lovely day outside. The buzz of conversation filled the classroom once again.

Haruki sighed. “Forget it. I'll tell you more when we get to the clubroom."

---

Thunderclouds hovering over his head, Haruki strode with large footsteps towards the clubroom, and in a moment's time, we arrived at the door. The sign above the door read, "Literature Club," and sellotaped under that sign was a piece of paper with scribbling that read "with the SOS Brigade."
[Note: Is sellotaped right? The original said cellotaped, but I don’t think that’s it. *Cue “Sellotape” by Flight of the Conchords*]

"Since we've stayed here for half a year already, I don't suppose anyone would mind if we claimed this room for ourselves. Not to mention we have the full permission of the Literature Club!" Haruki had unilaterally declared his sovereignty over the use of the room and wanted to remove the original sign, but I stopped him. After all, it's important for humans to maintain a certain amount of caution in their actions, especially when dealing with the Student Council, even if Nagato had given us permission.

Haruki barged into the room - without knocking, as usual - and standing inside was a fairy. When the fairy’s eyes met with mine, that person smiled like a lily blossoming.

"Oh... hello."

Wearing a maid costume and sweeping the room with a broomstick is, ironically, the best tea girl ever, the pride of the SOS Brigade – cute and timid Asahina Mitsuuru-senpai. Even if it seems weird to think of him as such, he falls into the role so naturally that you really can’t help it. No one would ever guess Asahina-senpai to be a time traveler from the far future sent to monitor Suzumiya Haruki.
[Note: I don’t remember if the maid thing really fully went through, or if it changed to being a butler uniform somewhere along the way.]

When you put it that way, it sounds even more patently absurd. But then again, what’s happened to me this past year is much more unbelievable than this.

Asahina-senpai was forcefully dragged over by Haruki during the founding of the brigade, as Haruki explained, "Well, look how cute he is! He’ll definitely draw lots of attention! He can be our mascot character!” Then under Haruki's demands and acute duress, he was forced to put on a maid costume and has since become the SOS Brigade's official maid. Every day after school, he would transform into the perfect maid. This is not because of any loose screws in his brain, but because of the loose screws in Haruki’s head. Until now, I still have no idea how Haruki intended this to make Asahina-senpai “more [B]manly[/B[].” Maybe I should emphasize something: Haruhi's actions rarely have any rational meaning to them.

Asahina-senpai has been dressed up in a maid uniform, Chippendales, and all other sorts of costumes for the SOS Brigade. Yet I felt the maid costume suited him best. Maybe it’s because he looks so undeniably cute in that outfit.

I know, that scares me a lot too.
[Note: SUPRESSED SHOUJO FANTASIES!!! WAHAHAHA]

Yet his actions often become the trigger for an unexpected chain of events, and have put us into a lot of trouble, which, naturally, I had to deal with. It would probably be better for his actions to be meaningless.

With regards to this club, the often-eccentric Haruki has very rarely done anything correctly. Or should I say, he's only done one correct thing, and that is picking Asahina-san's maid costume. Much to my astonishment, it suits him almost too well. I don't know where he bought it or how much he paid, but, for a guy, Haruki does have good taste when it comes to costumes.

"I'll go brew some tea," Asahina-senpai said with his soft, adorable voice. He placed the broomstick back into the cleaning cabinet and scurried over towards the kitchen cupboard, taking out everyone's cups.

Ahh, why couldn’t every club meeting be this peaceful and relaxi-

My head suddenly suffered an intense pain, and when I came to my senses, I realized Haruhi had jerked my ponytail so I was now leaning back looking up at his close face.
[Note: fluster fluster fluster. AHIHIHIHI.]

W-W-What are you doing?!

"You had a dazed expression on your face."

Hey! Anybody would have the same reaction after seeing the adorably cute and shy Asahina-senpai in his oddly well-fitting maid costume, even if I do end up pitying him.

I REALLY need to stop thinking about it that way.

---

Haruki walked towards the desk with a black triangular spike that read "Commander," and took out an armband that also read "Commander" from the drawer and put it on. He then kicked the steel chair out from the desk and sat on it, surveying his meager empire.

Sitting by the corner of a table reading a thick book was another member of the brigade.

There, fully concentrated on reading his book is none other than Nagato Yuuki, the first year Literature Club student, who to Haruki would be the "bonus gift that came with occupying the Literature Club room."

His existence is just about as subtle as nitrogen in the atmosphere, yet of all the first years in the brigade he is definitely the most extraordinary. His extraordinariness far exceeds that of Haruki. I know absolutely nothing about Haruki, yet while I do know something about Nagato, what I do know only makes me even more confused about him. If I chose to believe all of Nagato’s explanations, then this tall, quiet bookworm lacking of expression, emotion, and empathy is not a human but a living humanoid interface created by aliens to interact with humans. No matter how you put it, it still sounds unbelievable. But then, given what happened regarding Asakura Ryou and the logic-defying situation of that encounter, I wouldn’t want to question this any further. Of course, Haruki doesn't know about any of this, even after my lame attempt at an explanation; after all, Haruki still treats him as "quite a weird bookworm."

Though, objectively speaking, "quite" is quite an understatement.

"Where's Koizumi-kun?"

Haruki set upon Asahina-senpai with his sharp glare. Asahina-senpai shuddered for a moment, then stuttered, "Eh...sh...she's not here yet, she's quite late today..."

Asahina-senpai carefully brought out the tea leaves from the tin and placed them in the little teapot. I casually looked at the hanging rack by the corner of the clubroom. All sorts of costumes hung on top of it, like a theatre resting room. From the left hung the various costumes that Haruki forced upon Asahina-senpai.
[Note: Didn’t know what to put here instead of various costumes, but I see leopard skin, woolen frog puppet, Chippendales, sumo wrestler, and a Neko costume. ]

For the past six months these costumes have all graced the warm skin of Asahina-senpai. To explain further, there is absolutely no reason for Asahina-senpai to wear these costumes, apart from satisfying Haruki's own ego. What sort of reason did Haruki have to do this to Asahina-senpai anyway? Maybe he suffered some sort of trauma in the past - like a secret love of dress-up dolls to play with, suppressed by excess testosterone?

No matter the reason, Asahina-san's emotional scars have increased as the days go by, while my visual senses get stimulated as a result. It makes me guiltily happy too, though it sometimes feels awkward to feel this way.

Sigh.

No one will benefit from my saying this anyway, so I’d best say nothing about it.

(PART 2 END)

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-13, 14:25

Anyway, we don't need to elect a new writer. We could elect a "official" version for each story. People write some stuff, based on discussion, and the we make the our "cannon". I know that there aren't much point doing it (being just fanfiction) but have a "official version is easyer for newbies. Is not like everey one are going to read all on the archives (I don't). Like a communal fanfiction.

Because collaborative works generally end up sucking due to lack of consistency?

I was working on Boredom when I gave up. I'll continue from there.

As much as Sighs probably needs my attention, I said I'm doing them in chronological order and I'm sticking to it. :heh:

I should have another part of Boredom AND two more scenes from the VN up by tonight. I have to go out for now though.

*snip*

If I actually put forth any kind of effort, we'd have been done the novel rewrites long ago. I really don't want to burn myself out though.

Anyway, keep at it if you want to, it's easier if I have something as a base.

One of the things I tried to to in my rewrites was convert B-T's transliteration to something sounding like English, though.

Ithekro

2009-07-13, 14:30

So after that is Mysterious Sign, Lonely Island....and Endless Eight.

For Endless Eight we could actually have anyone that wants to write it do it...just change the loop number.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-13, 14:33

Remember my idea for an Endless Eight visual novel? :heh:

Imagine the work that would require... Also, you're forgetting BLR.

Actually, if I haven't already (I forget) this is a perfect time to announce our latest goal!

Release a demo of the VN.

Encompassing Day 0 to Day 6, which allows for the player's choices to mean something and still keep things joyfully unexplained.

Also, the ending of Day 6 as of now is a perfect point to end a demo on, as it basically ends the prologue which is the first week. Sorta like KH2, actually.

Ithekro

2009-07-13, 14:34

I thought you'd finished BLR early...or someone did.

Heatth

2009-07-13, 14:36

Because collaborative works generally end up sucking due to lack of consistency?

I usualy agree about that. However, it is a rewrite, so it is easyer to be consistent. (I agree that at last finishing "Boredom" would be nice though).

As much as Sighs probably needs my attention, I said I'm doing them in chronological order and I'm sticking to it.

I don't get it. Since you are going for chronological order, it wouldn't be hard to another writer be consistent after Boredom.

But only if you realy don't want to continue. As I said, there is no point forcing it.

*e* Oh, a Demo would be cool. But is still early. You still need to finish the write and we need images. And sound (we haven't any!).
BTW, if you think there it will be no plot changes after that reales it is possible make the actual game follow from it. (meaning you will not have to play the first 6 days again)

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-13, 14:41

I thought you'd finished BLR early...or someone did.

I didn't, and that's what matters to me. :heh:

I usualy agree about that. However, it is a rewrite, so it is easyer to be consistent. (I agree that at last finishing "Boredom" would be nice though).

Oh for... it's not just taking the story and switching the genders around, there's a lot more to it than that. See below.

I don't get it. Since you are going for chronological order, it wouldn't be hard to another writer be consistent after Boredom.

I snuck quite a few little details into the chronology which I intended to use in later stories to fix things that wouldn't work with the new genders... and the character development works a hell of a lot differently, too.

For example, Kyonko doesn't really like Haruki that much at all (outside of physical attraction) until AFTER Sighs, when he stops being such a glorious douche.

swtrooper42

2009-07-13, 14:46

Actually, if I haven't already (I forget) this is a perfect time to announce our latest goal!

Release a demo of the VN.

Encompassing Day 0 to Day 6, which allows for the player's choices to mean something and still keep things joyfully unexplained.

Also, the ending of Day 6 as of now is a perfect point to end a demo on, as it basically ends the prologue which is the first week. Sorta like KH2, actually.

Nice to see you've been influenced by Katawa Shoujo.:heh:
But first we need something that we've been critically missing. Character art.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-13, 14:48

And music. Music is probably important, too.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-13, 14:49

"Goal" being something we hope to accomplish in the future.

But yeah, art we can get... now, music.

Who here can compose?

Heatth

2009-07-13, 14:57

Oh for... it's not just taking the story and switching the genders around, there's a lot more to it than that. See below.

I know that. It is why I said easier. It is not easy. But it is not that hard. (BTW, your problem with this project wasn't that is just taking the story and switching the genders around? :p)

I snuck quite a few little details into the chronology which I intended to use in later stories to fix things that wouldn't work with the new genders... and the character development works a hell of a lot differently, too.

For example, Kyonko doesn't really like Haruki that much at all (outside of physical attraction) until AFTER Sighs, when he stops being such a glorious douche.

Oh, I got it. Well, I guess you could post your thoughts so future writers would work from it. But, yeah, you are right.

About the demo. For "sound" I meant "music" as well. We are realy lacking on it. Art is on progress now, at least (Binjovi is very good).

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-13, 15:10

... I really hope someone else volunteers for the audio department... so far, I've been the only one to actually do that, and I'm pretty swamped as it is. :heh:

Ithekro

2009-07-13, 15:44

Umm, I could compose, but its been well over a decade since I last tried that, and I don't have the equipment for it anymore (last time I did it was on an Apple IIe). And I get the feeling a MIDI style composition would be horrid for a VN. Especially since the last time I did compose on paper it was basically only for a few instraments (and was basically an attempt to make a version of the "Imperial March" by ear for a class).

HikariNiwa

2009-07-13, 15:45

A demo of the VN would be good, but like the others have already said, no music and no art means no demo.

... I really hope someone else volunteers for the audio department... so far, I've been the only one to actually do that, and I'm pretty swamped as it is. :heh:

How exactly does one go about composing a piece of music anyway?

ClockWorkAngel

2009-07-13, 15:53

Yea, I think a rewrite and a demo would work out just fine.

Rewrites, however will be more consistent hopefully and not just changing of pronous :/

vivify93

2009-07-13, 17:36

Good luck, everyone! A demo sounds great! ...just need those minor flaws ironed out.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna sit here and go "nyoro~n".

HikariNiwa

2009-07-13, 17:50

Meanwhile, I'm gonna sit here and go "nyoro~n".

You already did that didn't you?

vivify93

2009-07-13, 18:36

Yes.

Yes, I did.

However, I do that a lot.

Jintor

2009-07-13, 18:39

I may be able to swing you guys a composer/musician.

Art, however, you're going to need to get on your own.

Kaisos, finish the scripts for the demo before you start the rewrite project. I'd also like to get the demo out and running.

ClockWorkAngel

2009-07-13, 20:00

A composer/musician would be nice ;)

I've been working on somethings myself, but I'm no good with the exciting themes the danchou wants.

I'm a pianist fyi. We need a guitarist or something hot like that.

scify

2009-07-13, 21:35

Was there going to be anything to the audio besides music? I've not encountered many visual novels with vocal parts.

How exactly does one go about composing a piece of music anyway?

Finale and other programs make it pretty easy (though it still takes skill to produce anything of worth). The simplest way to go about it nowadays would be to write the music, divide it up into its respective instrumental parts, and find people to play it if you can't on your own. Thanks to digital editing, you don't have to get a single group together, as you can simply splice the tracks together.

Of course, if you're awesome and an overachiever, you can write and then play all the parts yourself.

yggdrasil325

2009-07-13, 21:51

I have limited proficiency with FL Studio, so I could possibly help with music. But I'm still not good, so if I was appointed to work on the music, it would mean me taking a lot of time to work on it and no guarantee of quality. Also I would need to actually finish typesetting that touhou doujin before I'll have enough free time.

ClockWorkAngel

2009-07-13, 22:16

Pip

2009-07-13, 23:44

I'm a pianist fyi. We need a guitarist or something hot like that.

If you guys ever do come up with something, I can do acoustic. I'm not that good yet though, so no guarantee of quality + it will take a long time to do something VN-worthy.

And my mic is crap.

ClockWorkAngel

2009-07-14, 00:01

Pip

2009-07-14, 07:29

In reality; it's all about theory (Who knew?) yes theory, that thing we discarded as worthless technic and junk; it actually serves some purpose.

Guitar (Acousitc, like the one gathering dust in my room) is great and I'd recommend you just figure our some chord progressions; snazzy stuff like that; you'd be amazed how easy it is to work off or with something like that.

Boy, how I HATED music theory when I started out.

Now that I've been playing for a while, I really regret not learning it.

Anyway, what kind of chord progressions do you want? I need an idea of what to work on. Happy? Sad? Excited? Dramatic?

Solais

2009-07-14, 07:43

The most EPIC scene of the VN should have some kind of electric guitar solo of a classical music as a BGM. Like Pachelbel's Canon.
Just saying.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 08:17

... Canon is already connected to something else...

scify

2009-07-14, 08:38

Finale is good, but the midi tracking isn't very good at all. Sibelius isn't that much better either (So complicated!) and I've yet to understand how to make it preform like it ought to.

Actual performances are hard to do well unless you happen to own a studio; or depending on the instrument some sort of instrument to computer porting device/software. Which often is expensive (The instrument anyways).

I'll try transcribing my music and show off to the community for feedback when I get to it.

Do you know of any programs that don't work in midi? I suggested writing it in a program like that because of ease of distribution, not quality of playback. I like Finale because you can work in layers that are then fairly easy to divide out, but any of the programs will serve the purpose if you already have a decent grounding in music theory.

swtrooper42

2009-07-14, 09:37

The best BGM that I've heard during a fight scene was this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwiMi2BX4TE) from Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel finale. That was EPIC.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 15:43

The best BGM that I've heard during a fight scene was this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwiMi2BX4TE) from Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel finale. That was EPIC.

Man, that fight was pure win. You're right, it was EPIC.

See, this is what I'd like us to accomplish, ya know?

Anyway, a day late, but here's another scene for the VN:

Carton of Eggs

…

It’s early morning. It’s rare that I ever wake up this early on my own.

But for the past few nights, I’ve been having strange dreams about a pool of water in the sky that ripples, as though water was falling into it from somewhere.

Or was the pool of water the sky itself?

It’s said that most of the dreams people have they never remember in the morning. I suppose that’s why I

Forget everything you’ve ever known

can never remember the details.

Still, I think there was something important…

As I try to recall, which gives me a headache, my alarm clock goes off with a loud ring, and, right on schedule, my sister barges into my room with a

Sister: Kyon-kun~, it’s time to get up!

Kyon: Gyaaaa!

I throw off the covers suddenly, while yelling, in order to surprise her.

Sister: Wow, Kyon-kun’s up already!

She seems more shocked than surprised. Damn it.

[Scene: Dining Room]

Despite my rude awakenings and energetic sister, breakfast at my house is usually a calm affair. I can only imagine the horror if I lived with someone like Haruhi.

…Strange. That brings to mind something that I think I should have forgotten. A girl with brown hair, who—

I was so deep in thought that I didn’t notice my mother trying to get my attention. Apologizing, I listen as she tells me a strange story about a carton of eggs.

According to her, yesterday afternoon, she put a carton of eggs back into the fridge after using all but one of them. This morning, when she opened up the fridge again, the carton was completely full.

Odd, but not something I really think I should be concerned about. Maybe my mother bought a new carton of eggs and forgot that she did so? I ask her this.

My mother is adamant that the full carton appeared out of nowhere. If a certain someone was around, I’m sure she’d already be in my fridge looking for ‘mysterious events’. Maybe I should tell her about—no, god no, I don’t want that terror rooting through my house.

Anyway, I’m sure my mother just misremembered. Nothing amazing here. Also, it’s just about time for me to go to school. Thanks for the food, mother.

As I get on my bike and head towards North High, living my carefree days, I had no idea that the innocent carton of eggs would soon be at the center of a world-ending catastrophe.

…No, no, that kind of development isn’t going to happen. Sometimes, like Freud would say, a carton of eggs is just a carton of eggs.

Yes, I know the scene is short. I'm sorry. =P

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 15:53

The eggs will doom us all! :p

besieger

2009-07-14, 15:56

But why are they so delicious? >.<

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 16:00

To tempt you, besieger... to tempt you...

Heatth

2009-07-14, 16:27

uhmm... I find this scne kinda boring. I know that it can't be helped, because is suppose to have nothing iteresting here.

However, i think that Kyon narrating his conversation with his mother too long. Maybe you could abbreviate it, insted describeing exactaly what happened. Like:

"My mother said something strange about eggs appearing from nothing but I am sure that she is just a misstake. At last my home is normal" (But, obviously, better writen, please :p )

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-14, 16:40

We really need to stick to doing one thing at a time.

For the VN, the order of things is script, art, programming, music.

For the rewrites, we should really try to stick to chronological progression of the story, which does mean finishing off that baseball game.

Let's please focus on writing for now, regardless of which project it is for.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 16:44

However, i think that Kyon narrating his conversation with his mother too long. Maybe you could abbreviate it, insted describeing exactaly what happened.

It's... Kyon. He's like Tolkien, he can't stop narrating when he should.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 16:44

... Wouldn't it theoretically be a better idea to have the music ready before the programming, so the people doing it don't have to go back and add it in later?

*e* Not meaning to get out of line with this or anything. If you say music not important, then music not important. :heh:

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-14, 16:47

Music comes after because it's easier to create something when you have a visual basis for it. The words and art should be what inspire the sound.

Meanwhile I'll just use BGMs from my collection of OSTs as placeholders. Though honestly it'd be a lot less work if we could be content with that. I don't see it as a bad alternative.

Heatth

2009-07-14, 16:54

It's... Kyon. He's like Tolkien, he can't stop narrating when he should.

I see.

But I guess it feel strange because he is describing a dialogue when he is more used to show it. Of course, showing the dialogue would be another problem, we wil not have any image for his mother and may be adding too much personality for her

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 17:12

Don't worry, we should be seeing her... whenever Endless Eight ironically ends. :heh:

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 17:19

But I guess it feel strange because he is describing a dialogue when he is more used to show it. Of course, showing the dialogue would be another problem, we wil not have any image for his mother and may be adding too much personality for her

That's the thing. To stay true to the novel's style, Kyon's mom can never actually say anything or be shown at all.

Heatth

2009-07-14, 17:33

Maybe you could use Imouto to say it? Or she is too young work with eggs? She could be telling Kyon what their mother telled her early.

*e*Boy, how I HATED music theory when I started out.

Now that I've been playing for a while, I really regret not learning it.

Anyway, what kind of chord progressions do you want? I need an idea of what to work on. Happy? Sad? Excited? Dramatic?

Well, as you can see, the "music" suddenly becomes top botton priority and we may be using the shows BGMs :heh:

Anyway, we will probably be nedding some new musics especially because the main theme is "dark" and "angst". So some sad and dramatic musics may work. Also, eath rout seems to have a different theme. The "Alien" is going to be a "Shoune" route (many excited sci-fi sounding musics I guess?) for axemple.
An idea is modifiing the anime BGM to fit better on the situation. Good idea would be remixing the Gensou's musics for the climax scenes (not for now, of course)
Well work with the scenes you can see.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 19:05

Maybe you could use Imouto to say it? Or she is too young work with eggs? She could be telling Kyon what their mother telled her early.

It works fine this way... :heh:

An idea is modifiing the anime BGM to fit better on the situation. Good idea would be remixing the Gensou's musics for the climax scenes (not for now, of course)

My god some of the Gensou themes would be so epic here.

And I want more remixes of Itsumo no Fuukei. That track will be epic forever.

Anyway, more content:

Temporal

Every day, I climb this hill, and for some reason I never get tired of complaining about it. Whose idea was it to always build schools on top of large mountains?

Maybe one day I’ll have a heart attack from climbing this hill, and in the interest of public safety, they’ll have to level it off entirely, and rebuild the school where the hill used to be.

My noble sacrifice will not be in vain!

…

No point in thinking about strange things this early in the morning. And, as I think that, I arrive at the school gates.

And standing in front of the gates, talking to another girl with long hair, is Mikuru Asahina-san.

Even as the other girl goes inside the gates, Asahina-san continues to stand there. Is she waiting for someone? …Could she be waiting for me!?

Kyon: Asahina-saaaaan!

Mikuru: Ah! Kyon-kun! I was waiting for you!

She says with a slight blush. I’m so flattered, Asahina-san. I won’t keep you waiting ever again. I’ll get up at four in the morning from now on and wait for you instead.

Kyon: It’s rare that I see you this early, Asahina-san. What’s up?

Mikuru: Kyon-kun… did you notice anything strange at all yesterday? Around the time when we were talking?

Something strange? No, not that I remember.

Asahina-san gets closer to me, giving furtive looks left and right. From this distance, I can smell the sweet scent of her hair.

Mikuru: My superiors contacted me yesterday, about classified information—um, I’ll try to put it in simpler terms… yesterday afternoon, there was a state of temporal flux in the clubroom.

Kyon: Temporal… flux?

Mikuru: Um, I’m sorry, I really can’t explain much, but for about fifteen minutes, our clubroom, um, was occupied by something.

Kyon: Something classified?

Mikuru: …Yes.

She looks away from me like she can’t think of much else to say. Also, I feel angry glares on my back from passing male students.

I better wrap this conversation up quickly and get inside before I’m lynched! Sorry, Asahina-san, but I can’t hold you close and comfort you here.

Hmm…

[DECISION POINT HERE]

1) Think it had something to do with last month?
2) Leave it me. If there’s any trouble, I’ll protect you.
IF RoutesClear >= 3, THEN
3) So, uh, Asahina-san, who were you talking to?

The Deep Wounds Inside

Kyon: Think it had something to do with last month?

Mikuru: …!

At my response, she abruptly turns around.

Mikuru: Kyon-kun… can we please not talk about that?

Kyon: …Eh? Wait, no, Asahina-san, I didn’t mean to bring that…

Mikuru: It’s fine!

She turns around and flashes me a smile.

Mikuru: I’ll see you in the clubroom later today, Kyon-kun.

Kyon: Ah, right, bye.

And she walks off without another word. I get the feeling I screwed up royally somewhere.

Ah well. Better get to class.

How much do you want to bet Haruhi will have made it there before me again? The odds are, unfortunately, against me.

A thousand to one in her favor!

False Bravado

Kyon: Leave it me. If there’s any trouble, I’ll protect you!

Her face lights up immediately.

Mikuru: Really? Thanks a lot, Kyon-kun!

Really. Even though, the last time we were in big trouble, I seem to remember cowering in a corner while Koizumi and Nagato did all the work.

Mikuru: Even if you’re nowhere as strong as Koizumi-kun or Nagato-san, I really, really appreciate it.

Wh--?

What is that supposed to mean? I never thought I’d hear something like that from Asahina-san’s sweet red lips!

Haruhi has been a bad influence on her. That must be it.

I sigh.

Kyon: Can I at least walk you to class?

Mikuru: Ah, um, no, that’d be… what if Suzumiya-san were to see us?

Kyon: Ah, right, yeah, good point.

And with that, she waves and goes towards the school building, ready for class.

Ah well. Guess I should be going too.

How much do you want to bet Haruhi will have made it there before me again? The odds are, unfortunately, against me.

A thousand to one in her favor!

My Friend

Kyon: So, uh, Asahina-san, who were you talking to?

Asahina-san looks surprised.

Mikuru: Ah, that was my friend, Tsuruya-san. You remember her?

Kyon: How could I forget?

Tsuruya-san is one of the more interesting people I’ve ever met.

Mikuru: I told her to go on ahead, since I was waiting for you… ah! Look, she’s up there!

I look where Asahina-san is pointing. Waving down at us out of a second floor window is a girl with long hair. At this distance, I can’t really see what she looks like, but I’m sure it’s

[I]Ripple.

Huh? What was that just now? It felt like something from a dream long forgotten, or something I should have remembered…

…What?

The world has, all of a sudden, been suffused with a deep myrtle.

Nothing moves. The world is dark. I can’t hear anything.

What the hell is this?

???: …?

Did I just hear…?

???: …on-kun?

What? I hear a voice…

Mikuru: Kyon-kun? Are you okay?

Kyon: Ah, uh, yeah, I’m fine.

Everything’s back. That was strange.

…Am I losing it?

Ah, whatever, it’s all fine. Don’t look at me with eyes like that, Asahina-san, I’m fine. Just a momentary lapse in sanity. Perfectly normal.

Kyon: Should I walk you to class?

Mikuru: Ah, um, no, that’s fine. Suzumiya-san might see…

Kyon: …Yeah, good point.

And with that, she waves and goes towards the school building, ready for class.

Ah well. Guess I should be going too.

How much do you want to bet Haruhi will have made it there before me again? The odds are, unfortunately, against me.

A thousand to one in her favor!

If you don't know what "myrtle" is, look it up. The more you know~!

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-07-14, 19:15

Uh oh... last one looks like it could be trouble...

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 19:39

Would more people comment besides Shirogane? :heh:

I feel unloved.

Now, let's see, Boredom... I never did get a good reference to replace Jason and Medea, but eh.

Part... five, right. Might be the final part, I certainly hope so, stupid baseball game...

wittyusername

2009-07-14, 19:49

I would have commented more, but:

a) It wouldn't really matter if I commented, because when I do that it tends to be more of an annoyance than anything else, and
b) Up until like four minutes ago I was at my friend's house watching Dr. Horrible. It was the first time she'd seen it, and I left because once she stopped laughing at the ending (which was apparently funny?), the power went out. Ominous. : |

But anyways, an actual comment.

Uh, I think everything in general that happens in this thread is kickass, but all the actual progress is even more kickass. And progress would include that which was asked to be commented on by more people.

So that would be my comment.

Which was an annoyance. So I guess I proved my own theory right but that's not a good thing, so I'm just going to shut up now.

vivify93

2009-07-14, 19:57

I liked it. Yay Kaisos!

Uh... Good writing. Yeah.

Wow, I really am useless. I didn't find anything spectacular about it, but I didn't find anything wrong with it either...

That is all from your Leader of the GaKu Division of Seitenkan.

besieger

2009-07-14, 20:14

Correct and unimpressed is a good comment too. Because that should demand the writer to make it either more interesting or try other stuff.

Not that I'm mentioning anything, Kaisos. ;D

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 20:18

Not that I'm mentioning anything, Kaisos. ;D

Reaaaally now.

scify

2009-07-14, 20:23

Something I've been wondering about for awhile (and haven't found a good explanation for in the early stuff that I've read) is the RoutesClear variable. Since I have seen a + for it anywhere, I assume it's about the different paths through the game and replay?

DJ_RockmanX

2009-07-14, 20:26

Yeah it's pretty much like that. Also I'm gonna have to rework the charts again eventually. OTL

Iaevuous

2009-07-14, 21:12

Now, let's see, Boredom... I never did get a good reference to replace Jason and Medea, but eh.

I thought Shirogane suggested Samson and Delilah when the conditions were just "a male character being epically betrayed by a female one". Did you encounter problems with that?

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 21:13

I thought Shirogane suggested Samson and Delilah when the conditions were just "a male character being epically betrayed by a female one". Did you encounter problems with that?

Your memory is this good?!

swtrooper42

2009-07-14, 21:21

Mikuru: Even if you’re nowhere as strong as Koizumi-kun or Nagato-san, I really, really appreciate it.
Ouch. Poor Kyon being crushed like that. Even coming from a beautiful women that's still quite a blow to his pride.

b) Up until like four minutes ago I was at my friend's house watching Dr. Horrible. It was the first time she'd seen it, and I left because once she stopped laughing at the ending (which was apparently funny?)the power went out. Ominous. : |
Your friend is weird. That's drama right there, not comedy. I like the ending.

besieger

2009-07-14, 21:25

Edit button, swtrooper, edit button!

swtrooper42

2009-07-14, 21:52

:heh: whoops.

Iaevuous

2009-07-14, 22:13

Your memory is this good?!

No, but I wish it were. I thought "Hasn't this discussion already been had already", then progressed to, "massive backstab" to "Samson and Delilah" to "did that really happen?" to "Better make sure. Search Function!".

I seem to recollect trivial things that no one else does and forget important things that everyone else remembers , so I tend do doubt what I remember a lot. Which is a good thing, seeing as about half the stuff that I recall that no one else does, on further reflection, probably couldn't have happened... You probably didn't want to know any of this.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-14, 23:45

One reason I hate doing the rewrites is B-T's incredibly poor use of English and the concept of "flow".

Another is that they're no fun unless I have free reign with Haruki.

The fourth batter managed to hit a double; while the fifth batter took advantage of an error from Kunikida, and our opponents ended up taking the first and third; the sixth batter scored a second run by hitting the ball out into the right field; the seventh batter hit the ball towards third base, the ball was picked up and quickly thrown home by Tsuruya-senpai, tagging the runner out, which ended the first inning.

The score is now 2-0. I’d never have thought we could fight this valiantly, but it gives me even more of a headache. Just hurry up and let them score ten runs so we can go home already!

At the start of the second inning, our fifth to seventh batters - my brother, Itsuko, and Kunikida – all struck out one after the other. Ladies and gentlemen, we have already entered the second half of the inning before we could even take a breath.

Our opponent seems to have identified the outfield as our main weakness, and it became obvious that they were targeting the ball towards that area. Every time they did, Taniguchi and I would run frantically towards the outfield, trying to catch the ball, but our success rate was only about 10%. As a result, we’re both exhausted.

It was a small price to pay, though. This way Asahina-senpai doesn’t have get himself hurt by chasing after the ball. He looks so cute even when he’s running away.

And so, our opponent scored five runs in this inning, giving them a score of 7-0. Just three more runs and it'll be over. We should be able to wrap this up next inning, and I can leave.

It’s now the first half of the third inning, our turn for offense.

Tsuruya-senpai, who was up next, kept hitting the ball foul. He seems like a very energetic person, but in the end, he could only hit the ball straight up, which of course landed in the catcher’s glove.

He tapped his helmet with the bat and said, “Man, that sure is hard! Just hitting the ball was already tough enough.”

Haruki frowned, seeming to be in deep thought. That’s never a good sign.

"Hmm, looks like we'll have to use… that…" Haruki murmured, and slowly walked to the umpire, saying, "Time out!"

He then walked over to me. “Okay Kyon, let’s go.”

“What? What you do you have in mind?”

Haruki grinned.

------

“No.”

Was my curt response.

Haruki had carried me behind the bleachers, and is now holding out… a cheerleader’s uniform? I’m not surprised, somehow.

“But why!?” Haruki almost looked disappointed. “Come on, it’ll look cute. You can’t tell me you don’t want to look cute.”

“No.”

He pulled his cellphone out of his jersey pocket and started waving it around.

“We can even take photos! Photos of you being cute. So you can show your grandkids how cute you were when you weren’t old and ugly.”

…Is that supposed to convince me of anything? Also, “No.”

“But wait! There’s more! I’ve also got a free—"

“Haruki.” Is all I can say, with my hand covering half my face.

“Yeah, what? You’re interrupting my spiel here.”

“How, exactly, will me being in a cheerleader costume help us to win the game at all!?”

He sighs. “We’re going to overwhelm them with your cuteness while you wear this outfit, of course!”

…What, exactly…?

“Since I figure all female baseball players are dykes anyway, this’ll definitely do the trick!”

I-I can’t even begin to… also, “No.”

“Bah,” Haruki grunts. “Fine, I’ll use Plan B. The B, by the way, stands for—“

I had already gone back to my seat in the dugout at that point.

Haruki soon returned, and dragged Asahina-senpai behind the bleachers. As soon as I heard the screams, I suddenly wished I had worn the cheerleader uniform.

I hate struggling with poor sentence structure and wading through pronouns, so I inevitably end up rewriting entire sections and coming up with original stuff like this.

We have someone who wants to do the rewrites from now on waiting in the wings already, so expect more from him at some point in the future.

I'll still be coming up with general ideas and more original concepts, if anyone's interested, though I'd like to channel my energy into the VN from now on.

Thanks for reading!