The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Binjovi]

I just want to mention that I will very much appreciate everyone's help, but at this point in time, I don't have anything for you guys to do. Basically what I have right now are a bunch of sketches that may or may not end up being sprites.

Essentially, the process of creating the sprites (and the characters in CGs) is as follows: I sketch the character out. This is a very loose sketch just to get the idea of pose, proportion, and whatnot. Next, I go over the sketch on a new layer and smooth out the lines a lot. This is the stage where most of the problems are fixed, and details are added. After the outlines are looking nice, I start laying down the base colors under the lines. I'll have to sit down and work out a design bible for this so we're all using the same colors. I'd also like to point out that, in order to ease up the process of shading, I like to put each different color on a separate layer. Finally, the shadows are applied. I use two layers of shadow, and apply it with a fuzzy brush to make sure they're nice and smooth. And what I just typed up in a few minutes, and what took you probably a shorter amount of time to read, takes me about 8-10 hours start to finish, and that's not even including the backgrounds and CGs. So you can see why a team of people will help out a lot. Even if just one person picks up one of the steps, you're saving me many, many hours of work. :)

Also of note, if we're following the style of my sig, the lines will have to be colored according to the color under it. For example, The outlines around Kyonko's hair would be a darker shade of brown, while the outlines around her uniform's skirt would be done in a dark blue. We'll probably want the sprites to be fairly interchangeable. It's possible that only a few bodies will be needed for any one character, with the heads being different based on expressions/looking around, so this can potentially ease things up for us.

I'll probably do one sprite from start to finish, and then use it to make some tutorials and instructions for anyone that may need them. When the time comes, I'll be asking what versions of what image editing software everyone will be using, so I can format the tutorials as needed, get a better idea of how I need to format things, and so I know what jobs everyone will be best suited for.

But I do get that there tend to be more artists than composers around, too, so yeah. Composers are really hard to find.

There are communities full of wonderful composers, and musicians out there on the internet. The difficult part is pitching this bizarre and insane seitenkan idea to them. :heh:

[Heatth]

About the list of prioritys, I agree with Danchou that is harder work at Ren'py without images then without songs. To be able to visiualize what you are doing, the images are essential in early stage. You can't do much without then. You need position then, give any, modify then, give then any effect might want... The musics and sound effects, by the other side, just need to be said where it begins and where it stops, maybe with how much time to fade into the begining or to end. Ren'Py can work (more or less) as a image editor, but not as a sound editor.

That being said, I would agree that the image are, yes, more important then the sound. However, this don't mean we should ignore the matter. After all, most composers probably aren't good drawing/editing images. So, working at sond/musics won't slow down the drawing, both can be worked at same time. Of course Danchou might not have the time to supervise both works (plus any other thing he already does), so he would priorize the drawing for now, the same for any other who is working in both sides of the projects.

While in that matter, I would say that, as a programmer, the sprites would be apprecizted. Background image in general don't really matter for the coding, any image at the same size can be used as a replace. Sprites, however, are more irregular, so it is better having then to be possible work with then proprialy (even simple things as zoon and positioning are hard without them). However, more important then that would be Canada's sprite control. Anyway, there is no hurry with that. I am kinda stoped now, due to some problems with College and PC, and so are the rest of the team. If everything go well, however, I (and, hopefully, the team) might back to work next week.

Oh, yeah, there is another job we are need people. I don't know if it is necessery so soon in the development, but we need designers. Not the same as the artists who work in the sprites, CGs and backgrounds, we need someone to think and make the basic appearance of the game. The text box, menus and the text itself (with font, size, etc).

[Binjovi]

Oh, yeah, there is another job we are need people. I don't know if it is necessery so soon in the development, but we need designers. Not the same as the artists who work in the sprites, CGs and backgrounds, we need someone to think and make the basic appearance of the game. The text box, menus and the text itself (with font, size, etc).

I can manage that side for now too, until someone comes along that's better at graphic design. I imagine you guys are able to work with the engine without needing fancy text boxes for now, though, so I haven't made it any kind of priority. Basically, if it comes down to it and we still don't have anyone that can manage it, I'll add it to my list of things to do, or hand it off to one of the people on my "team".

[Heatth]

I can manage that side for now too, until someone comes along that's better at graphic design. I imagine you guys are able to work with the engine without needing fancy text boxes for now, though, so I haven't made it any kind of priority. Basically, if it comes down to it and we still don't have anyone that can manage it, I'll add it to my list of things to do, or hand it off to one of the people on my "team".

Oh, don't worry to much with that comentary. As you said, it isn't really a priority. I just commented because no one did mentioned it and it is a pretty important point. A lot of people seens to be know how to edit images and work at photoshop, but few how to draw, so I tought some might be able to do that.

Anyway, yeah, it isn't necessery for programing. Exept for the greentext font/size. We need it to finish the rant at Mitsuuru's scene at the first day. But we don't need finish it now, so, don't worry about that.

[wittyusername]

It isn't a recruitment banner, but it is a recruitment-like poster thing!

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6741/harukiwantsyoufinalshork.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/harukiwantsyoufinalshork.jpg/)

In retrospect, I should probably have done homework instead of this.

[vivify93]

Pssh, homework? Who needs homework when you can do stuff for Seitenkan?

I'm not Kaisos, but thanks for the banner poster thing. It's nice; I like it.

EDIT: also amazing eyes.

[besieger]

Oh high school kids. Little do you know the meaning of ASSIGNMENTS.

[GDB]

Oh high school kids. Little do you know the meaning of ASSIGNMENTS.

So... you're a hitman?

[vivify93]

Now, now people.

We should leave this kind of talk for the bedroom the social group board.

Because we don't want mod intervention again.

Ahaha~.

[HikariNiwa]

Oh high school kids. Little do you know the meaning of ASSIGNMENTS.

That reminds me, I missed all my classes today. Only have one class tomorrow though.

[Kaisos Erranon]

It isn't a recruitment banner, but it is a recruitment-like poster thing!

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6741/harukiwantsyoufinalshork.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/harukiwantsyoufinalshork.jpg/)

In retrospect, I should probably have done homework instead of this.

You know, I seem to recall Haruhi having a very Uncle Sam-ish pose... why didn't you just modify that rather than drawing it from scratch? :heh: Actually, Jovi, that can be the next thing I'll have you do.

Ah well. The text of the image looks great. We'll definitely be using that, yes.


...Random fact: The name "Uncle Sam" originates from "United States of America", believe it or not. (U.S.Am.)

[Selofain]

Kind of a random change of topic but...

If you could sum up Suzumiya Haruhi no Seitenkan in one simple, easy-to-carve symbol/image, what would it be?

The reason I ask is because my house's annual pumpkin carving event is coming up, and I am definitely carving one, but lack for a subject. This year, I thought, "hey, why not Seitenkan?" The obvious image is Kyonko or Haruki, but I'm not quite sure how that could work (or not end up looking completely generic). I'm no pumpkin-carving pro, but I do pretty well. This is totally going to be loads of fun.

So what says "Seitenkan" to you?

[roankun]

you need a composer? wait. you guys are doing a game?????
*is totally surprised*

well... i'm not sure what i can do, but i'll try to help. no good in art though.

P.s. about kyon's image... this might sound kinda weird... or maybe not... but...
kyonko looks a LOT like haruhi. and for that matter haruki looks a LOT like kyon. only a bit more macho with a headband and no spiky bangs and half-lidded eyes. but kyonko really, REALLY looks like haruhi before she got a haircut. and they're pretty much the same height... so why not use haruhi (long hair image) for kyonko's, and kyon's for haruhi's?

P.P.s. yuuki STILL doesnt look like yuki. bookworms are usually short and thin (to me).

if you say gender bender... the first thing that comes to mind is the gender image? you know... the one that kinda looks like a key and is colored blue and pink? i dunno if you could do that on a pumpkin though.

[FlashFumo]

you need a composer? wait. you guys are doing a game?????
*is totally surprised*

well... i'm not sure what i can do, but i'll try to help. no good in art though.

P.s. about kyon's image... this might sound kinda weird... or maybe not... but...
kyonko looks a LOT like haruhi. and for that matter haruki looks a LOT like kyon. only a bit more macho with a headband and no spiky bangs and half-lidded eyes. but kyonko really, REALLY looks like haruhi before she got a haircut. and they're pretty much the same height... so why not use haruhi (long hair image) for kyonko's, and kyon's for haruhi's?

P.P.s. yuuki STILL doesnt look like yuki. bookworms are usually short and thin (to me).

if you say gender bender... the first thing that comes to mind is the gender image? you know... the one that kinda looks like a key and is colored blue and pink? i dunno if you could do that on a pumpkin though.

Visual novel. One I'm very much looking forward to.

And, uh, I think Kyonko looks like long-haired Haruhi because they both have long, brown hair? And Haruki doesn't look much like Kyon to me.

And alternate character interpretation and all that. Whatever.

[roankun]

yeah... i guess that's pretty much it... and yeah, haruki doesn't... i guess... the face isn't most definitely, since kyon's face is... longer and haruhi's is more... circular???

anyway, it was just a thought.

and, it's a visual novel right? how are they gonna make the game? i mean, are they gonna release it as a pc game or something? and... would it be available for us? ^_^

[FlashFumo]

and, it's a visual novel right? how are they gonna make the game? i mean, are they gonna release it as a pc game or something? and... would it be available for us? ^_^

Yes, I think (THINK) they're using the Ren'py engine, which is open-source.

I don't know much about Project Crossroads, but wouldn't it be released via download?

[Heatth]

We can't sell the game, so, yes, it is via download. And, yes, it is using Ren'py.

Anyway, the Uncle Sam-like image Kaisos is talking about is the full version of Danchou's avatar, right?

Oh, roankun, good you can help. But I guess it would be usefull know how. As it was said, what we are needing now is someone who can (and, preferably, good at) use an image editor or a music editor. An actual composer would be even better, tough I guess someone who can just mix anime musics would be ok.

[Joe4evr]

Anyway, the Uncle Sam-like image Kaisos is talking about is the full version of Danchou's avatar, right?Eh... no. Danchou's avatar comes from that pic where Haruki just came in through the door. I'm not sure where the full version of that is, though.:heh:

[Heatth]

Eh... no. Danchou's avatar comes from that pic where Haruki just came in through the door. I'm not sure where the full version of that is, though.:heh:

Here (http://www.4shared.com/file/111671019/15416ef4/stopgaruhitime.html).

No idea about that Uncle Haruki image, then.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Kind of a random change of topic but...

If you could sum up Suzumiya Haruhi no Seitenkan in one simple, easy-to-carve symbol/image, what would it be?

The reason I ask is because my house's annual pumpkin carving event is coming up, and I am definitely carving one, but lack for a subject. This year, I thought, "hey, why not Seitenkan?" The obvious image is Kyonko or Haruki, but I'm not quite sure how that could work (or not end up looking completely generic). I'm no pumpkin-carving pro, but I do pretty well. This is totally going to be loads of fun.

So what says "Seitenkan" to you?

This thing obviously.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1082/rect10115dr3.png

[Heatth]

So, Kyonko is the only thing that matter in the Genderbend? :p It seens to be a common thing to think over here... Sometimes I wonder if I am the only person who was not interested in this project because her.

[DJ_RockmanX]

It's what the general population seems to think.

[Binjovi]

To add to that, despite Haruhi being the titular character, Kyon's the narrator. I tend to think of him as the main character because we, as the audience, are experiencing what he has experienced. Kyonko works the same way for this. Also, females sell better. :p

[Heatth]

I agree with you, Kyon is the true protagonist. (Haruhi is more like an antagonist in early books).

I can understand why so much focus on Kyonko, like Kyon, she is the protagonist, but she has also the same "role" as Haruhi, being the pretty face who "sell" the project. I almost pitty Haruki, he don't have the charm.

Anyway, I was just commenting I didn't payed muc attention on her. Curiously, I was more iterested on the men (Yuuki, Ryou and Mitsuuru).

[dragon4dudes]

Playing catch up is hard... Also, everything in the last ten pages went over my head. I I can recall is a plea for artists and composers and being strangely on topic for a good amount of pages. Anyways, I'm no good at almost everything humanities related.

To comment on the current conversation, I was intrigued by the idea of genderbending so... yeah.

Damn Early Action, Damn College Apps. Dam Flu. I should probably not be here right now...

[HikariNiwa]

This thing obviously.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1082/rect10115dr3.png

I agree with Danchou.

[bhl88]

lol it's all thanks to Kyonko that I became more interested in a second season XD (or an alternate storyline)

[HikariNiwa]

lol it's all thanks to Kyonko that I became more interested in a second season XD (or an alternate storyline)

Kyonko's expression in that ad is just irresistible. Whenever I see it, I can't help but say （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤.

Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤

[PrincessFrani]

This thing obviously.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1082/rect10115dr3.png

I highly believe I'm more Kyonko-ist than Haruhi-ist. Mainly because Kyonko's point of view is more interests towards my perspective.:heh:

[Selofain]

This thing obviously.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1082/rect10115dr3.png
Ah, yes, of course. Now, how to make it carvable...

So, Kyonko is the only thing that matter in the Genderbend? :p It seens to be a common thing to think over here... Sometimes I wonder if I am the only person who was not interested in this project because her.
Nah, you're not alone. I'm in this for Yuuki. And Haruki. But mostly Yuuki.

[bhl88]

Kyonko's expression in that ad is just irresistible. Whenever I see it, I can't help but say （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤.

Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤
Kyonko （；ﾟДﾟ）ℳℴℯ❤

You can have her go Moe moe Kyun or something (she's a rival for Mio). Now if some figurine making company would make some genderbent figurines.... then we'd all be happy XD http://ragnaboards.levelupgames.ph/style_emoticons/default/heh.gif

[Archangel Roy]

Ah, yes, of course. Now, how to make it carvable...


Nah, you're not alone. I'm in this for Yuuki. And Haruki. But mostly Yuuki.

I am in total agreement.

[vivify93]

Thank Binjovi for the image guys. Really.

But really, Kyonko doesn't need to be moe-whored out at every opportunity. She's a good female lead. I mean really. Why the hell does every female lead have to be moe'd out? I don't even know what the hell I'm saying. All I know is I just watched the most disgusting videos in my life and now I have indigestion. Jesus Christ. I didn't know it was possible for anything other than food to give you indigestion.

She'd be perfectly fine if she were like...Kumatora from Mother 3. Only less so, because she wouldn't have PSI. I'm quite sure only half a person knows what I'm talking about, but Kumatora's an actual tomboy in a Japanese piece of fiction, and not the "hayz i'm a typical female w/ a temper". Hmm... Kyonkotora, eh...? Kumakyonko? Sounds like a shipping. Kyonatora?

Never mind. All I'm trying to say is that what the hell, I think I'm regretting making that banner, Jesus on toast K-ON! is sickening, and Kyonko doesn't need to be moe-whored to be popular.

Now if you'll excuse me, I think the contents of my stomach would like to have a word with me...ugh.

EDIT: Also, while I was initially in it for MOE MOE KYONKO, I stayed for GAR GAR HARUKI and the prospect of Kyonko's moments of awesome.

[GDB]

Now if some figurine making company would make some genderbent figurines.... then we'd all be happy XD

I definitely wish someone would. But I want to add a stipulation that it be stationary. I hate the way 99% of posable figures look.

She's a good female lead. I mean really. Why the hell does every female lead have to be moe'd out?
Moe is fine. Moeblob is not.

[swtrooper42]

Came for the prospect of an interesting idea involving genderbending the cast of The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi.

Stayed when idea turned out to be completely awesome.
Also Kyonko-Haruki-Itsuko.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I found everyone to be absolutely insane. Figured I'd fit right in.

Plus, I found the idea funny...

Then the greentext hit and combined the insanity with the funny. I'm rather fond of this "Midori" character.

[Puffendahl]

Nah, you're not alone. I'm in this for Yuuki. And Haruki. But mostly Yuuki.

I am in total agreement.

Me too. I'll add in Tsuruya as well, because his design from the video that started it all was the one that I liked the most. Recently, thanks to Kaisos, Mori was added to this list too :D
...wait, so I'm basically just fangirling the guys? Oh dear...

Yuuki was the hook, though. I do like Kyonko as a character (design and personality) too, but the moe-moe part isn't really reaching me. Also, the first and foremost reason I'm staying is, obviously, that this is awesome.

[otai]

Kind of a random change of topic but...

If you could sum up Suzumiya Haruhi no Seitenkan in one simple, easy-to-carve symbol/image, what would it be?

The reason I ask is because my house's annual pumpkin carving event is coming up, and I am definitely carving one, but lack for a subject. This year, I thought, "hey, why not Seitenkan?" The obvious image is Kyonko or Haruki, but I'm not quite sure how that could work (or not end up looking completely generic). I'm no pumpkin-carving pro, but I do pretty well. This is totally going to be loads of fun.

So what says "Seitenkan" to you?

Our motto is "From MOE to GAR; from GAR to MOE." So all you need is Haruhi and Kyon on one side, seperated by the SOS-Dan symbol, like a crude yinyang symbol. Underneath that, "From MOE to GAR". On the other side, do Haruki and Kyonko; over "From GAR to MOE". There, (nearly) everything about us on a pumpkin shell.

... Ok, was it rather evil to suggest a needlessly complicated design? :heh:
Alright, just replace the girls with the symbol for female, made to look like a blushing stick figure; and the boys with the symbol of the male, made to look like it's bursting into flames. That's my CRACK idea today. :D

P.S. Pics pls for whatever it is you actually made.

[Selofain]

Me too. I'll add in Tsuruya as well, because his design from the video that started it all was the one that I liked the most. Recently, thanks to Kaisos, Mori was added to this list too :D
...wait, so I'm basically just fangirling the guys? Oh dear...

Yuuki was the hook, though. I do like Kyonko as a character (design and personality) too, but the moe-moe part isn't really reaching me. Also, the first and foremost reason I'm staying is, obviously, that this is awesome.
I agree with this entire post completely. Silly me, how could I forget about Tsuruya? And Ryo Asakura. Yum.


... Ok, was it rather evil to suggest a needlessly complicated design? :heh:

Yes.


P.S. Pics pls for whatever it is you actually made.

Psh. Goes without saying. :D

[PrincessFrani]

I am in total agreement.

Me too. And Mitsuru as well.

[Stormwhite]

Insanity is underrated.

You could carve a silhouette of Kyonko? Idk :P

[bhl88]

Our motto is "From MOE to GAR; from GAR to MOE." So all you need is Haruhi and Kyon on one side, seperated by the SOS-Dan symbol, like a crude yinyang symbol. Underneath that, "From MOE to GAR". On the other side, do Haruki and Kyonko; over "From GAR to MOE". There, (nearly) everything about us on a pumpkin shell.

... Ok, was it rather evil to suggest a needlessly complicated design?
Alright, just replace the girls with the symbol for female, made to look like a blushing stick figure; and the boys with the symbol of the male, made to look like it's bursting into flames. That's my CRACK idea today.

P.S. Pics pls for whatever it is you actually made.


looks like it could be a game cover for this project...


Then the greentext hit and combined the insanity with the funny. I'm rather fond of this "Midori" character.


Same here (except that I wish she were real and made out with Kyon (lol I'm kidding)

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I wish she were real and made out with Kyon

Ew! What?! No! EWW!! Are you crazy?! With KYON?!

... Wait... You said you were kidding... *laughs nervously*

Um... ignore that person behind the curtain... Ignore this, too...

[bhl88]

lol I did say I was kidding but who would be scarier is the question.... Ryoko or Midori (http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1074190/Long%20Live%20the%20Green.png) (I can't think of a name so I guess that would do)

Ryoko: Put a ring through my finger or I'll put a knife through your chest.
Midori: I LEIK YOU! Let's have some fun!
Kyon: ....
Midori: You bore me. Die die die die die (10000x) Nyahahaha! Well I'll forgive you if you kiss me. Oh wait you can't, cause you are already dead! NYAHAHA!

Something like that. Though truthfully, any other girl other than Haruhi leads to a bad end. Even those two yanderes are suspect.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... How do you put a ring through someone's finger without damaging either one?

[bhl88]

lol Ryoko is kinda rough. (Hard for a yandere to do it normally... she'll do it in a rough way... probably end up with more than damaged fingers)

[HikariNiwa]

Same here (except that I wish she were real and made out with Kyon (lol I'm kidding)

That sounds rather interesting.

[bhl88]

That sounds rather interesting.

I'm sure you know which character I'm talking about (http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1074190/Long%20Live%20the%20Green.png).

Anyway I need to extract by video recording the screen then converting the video to MP3 form (that should allow me to get the BGM)....

[silvita]

i should really watch this thread more often too much wow........ /sigh

[scify]

YES I AM DOING THIS EVEN THOUGH I SHOULD PROBABLY BE DOING SOMETHING MORE REAL WORLD CENTRIC.

Acceleration in the Dark Room


"A shadowed person sits in a very dark room, which is lit only by the light of a tiny, old TV. Currently, the television is tuned into some kind of comedy show."


Shadow A "(Crunch, crunch.) Hahaha, this is bloody hilarious. (Crunch, crunch.)"


"The shadow is eating trail mix."

"Crunch, crunch."

"All of a sudden, there’s another shadow in the room. No flash or bang, just a sudden appearance."

"It would be unsettling, to non-shadows."


Shadow A "Oh hey, you’re back. (Crunch, crunch.) Have fun today?"

Shadow B "Why, exactly, did you go out without me, Number Two? I told you stay inside."

Shadow A "Wait a minute, my (crunch, crunch) show is on. Just wait until it goes to commercial. It’s nearly there anyway."


"A few minutes pass."

"Crunch, crunch."

"Some commercial about a product no one needs lights up the room. The newcomer shadow looks at the television, which mutes itself.

"Gulp."


Shadow A "So, what were we talking about?"

Shadow B "Why you decided to take a walk without telling me."

Shadow A "Ah, you saw. I thought you did."

Shadow B "Explain, please, if you would."

Shadow A "Well, look at it from my (crunch, crunch) perspective. You’re the only one who gets to (crunch, crunch)—"

Shadow B "Stop eating the trail mix or I’ll shove it up a few choice locations."

Shadow A "Yes’m. (Gulp.) You’re the only one getting to have any fun."

Shadow B "So…?"

Shadow A "You’ve also only really been messing around with one of them. How about some (slurp) fair play?"

Shadow B "That’s just how I do things, as you know, Number Two. Do you have a problem with that?"


"A voice like warm ice."


Shadow A "Yeah, actually. The way things are right now, they’re pretty boring. Predictable."


"That's the wrong thing to say, from one shadow to another."


Shadow B "Oh, and you think you could do better?"

Shadow A "Yeah, actually."

Shadow B "…"

Shadow A "Mmm. Fingers still sticky. (Slurp.)"

Shadow B "So, what did you have in mind?"

Shadow A "I’d like to set up a few things of my own. Then, once all the pieces have gathered, then. Then you get to do your thing."

Shadow B "Hmm. Fair enough. I suppose I haven’t really been giving you much free reign, have I? Very well, do as you please. Just don’t interfere with my fun, alright?"


"There is now only one shadow in the room."

"Crunch, crunch."


Shadow A "Don’t think I share your agenda, little miss xxxxxx. I’d like a little insurance if you’re going to continue gambling with the fate of my world. (Crunch, crunch.)"


"The shadow continues to grumble to himself."


Shadow A "Honestly, her and her xxxxxxx is really making me xxxxxx with xxxx and xxxxxx. If she wants to xxxxxx she can just xxxxxx while xxxxxx while she xxxxxxxx and I xxxxxxxxxx. (Crunch, crunch.) Oh, my show’s on."


"The shadow nods at the television, which regains the ability to speak."


Shadow A "(Crunch, crunch.) Hahaha, this never gets old. Hahahaha (crunch, crunch) hahahahahaaa!"


"Crunch, crunch."

"Gulp."

"Slurp."


INTERLUDE END

You sorta... jumped tenses in the middle. I switched it all to present, lemme know if you want it changed back.

Also, "The shadow nods at the television, which regains the ability to speak.
Umm... what?

[scify]

The Power of Love (I)


Kyonko "Why are we in a love hotel!?"


"Wait, no, I can answer that one myself."


"Itsuko and I had been loitering around the school, avoiding the gazes of suspicious teachers and trying to think of something to do when Nagato had suddenly appeared."


Yuuki "A way to contact our original universe has been discovered."

Kyonko "Nagato, just to be clear on what you mean, could you try reconstructing that sentence in the first person?"

Yuuki "…I have discovered a way to contact our original universe."

Itsuko "How is that, exactly?"


"It turned out that Nagato needed an internet-capable computer, a monitor, speakers, and a few hours to set his system up."


Yuuki "A cable capable of connecting myself and the computer will also be neededTwo cables will be needed: one to connect the computer and myself and another to connect the computer to the wall.

Kyonko "…I don’t think we have cables capable of connecting between human beings and electronic devices, Nagato."

Itsuko "Ah, but Nagato-san isn’t human, is he? Will an ordinary crossover cable do?"

Yuuki "……That should be sufficient."

Kyonko "Um. Okay, so, I think Asahina-senpai had some money on him… will you go with him to buy one of those? Itsuko and I will try to find a computer within the school building, I guess…"

Itsuko "We will meet up at our usual café near Kitaguchi Station this evening, then."


"We did actually manage to find one, lonely, old computer, in a clubroom that was equally old, lonely, and deserted."


Kyonko "You think this thing’ll even work? For that matter, could you even get Internet on it if it does work?"

Itsuko "Well, it is not plugged into the wall, but… all the proper cabling is here, and there’s even a router…"

Kyonko "It still looks like it’s falling apart. And the monitor’s ancient, too… wouldn’t it be a better idea just to steal the one in the Brigade clubroom?"

Itsuko "Ah, I do not think we should interfere too much with the denizens of this world."

Kyonko "So what, we’re following the Prime Directive now?"

Itsuko "I’m serious. Please, if you meet any of our other selves, do not tell them who you are. We don’t want to overtly influence anything."

Kyonko "But… you already told this world’s version of your /“Agency/”."

Itsuko "That’s different. They know how to keep secrets."

Kyonko "…Okay, but… what about this old hunk of crap we’re about to steal?"

Itsuko "This would fall under the, ah, Desperate Times Clause."

Kyonko "…Right."


"We waited inside the room for school to end. No point in being caught in the rush to get to clubs."


Kyonko "…I was just thinking. Why are we even stealing this?"

Itsuko "Hmm?"

Kyonko "Couldn’t the Agency just… give you a brand-new computer?"

Itsuko "…Well, I’ll put it this way. They don’t exactly trust me."

Kyonko "…Okay. Next question, why are we taking this outside of the school, anyway? Couldn’t we set up the system in here?"

Itsuko "Nagato-san said he’d need several hours… The school closes eventually, does it not?"

Kyonko "And we needed to go outside anyway for materials, so it’s easier this way?"

Itsuko "Yes, and, besides, I’m constantly getting the distinct feeling that I’m being watched. …The after-school rush seems to have died down. Shall we go somewhere where eyes are not on us?"



"When we tried to transport the computer downstairs, one of my legs suddenly stopped working, and I dropped the massive CRT monitor I was carrying, smashing it into pieces."


"Needless to say, a new plan had to be formulated."

"We decided to steal an easier-to-carry monitor from the Computer Research Society."

"Obviously we couldn’t just walk in and demand a monitor… knowing what happened in my world, I’m sure we’d resurface bad memories if we did so."

"So instead we just walked in and said /“hi/”."

"Itsuko’s only instructions to me beforehand were a) to slip away when they were distracted, and b) that she’d meet me at the school gate. That didn’t make much sense until after she went up to their President and whispered something in his ear that made his eyes bug out."

"…I don’t want to know what she offered to do, but we led the entire club to the back of the school. Itsuko… I won’t say what she did to distract them, it’s too…. Argh… but it gave me the chance to run back to their clubroom."

---
IF MissingShoes = False AND Thief = True THEN

"However, I managed to run into my male self along the way. And by /“run into/”, I mean literally."

"However… rather than brushing me off like I thought he would, (given his earlier behavior) he actually helped me steal the monitor.

"I only had to pay him seventy yen for it, too! …Although that was all the money I had, after buying lunch."

"…The Computer Society, however, chased us all the way out of the school, to where Itsuko wasn’t waiting for me."

"I told my other self he could go, but… for some reason, he stayed with me the whole way, and even carried the monitor all the way down the hill for me."

"Hell, he even biked me all the way to the café where we had agreed to meet earlier."

"We only managed to narrowly escape the wrath of the Computer Society President, but… it was actually a lot of fun, somehow."

"…I laughed harder than I’d laughed in a long time. I’m kind of offended he never even asked for my name, though."

"……Why did he help me? Is it only because I’m a girl?"

"Yeah, that has to be it, right? I’d certainly never help a person I barely knew."

"But… that would mean I’m… attracted to myself…?"

"…ARGH."

"Anyway!"

---

IF MissingShoes = False AND Samaritan = False THEN


"However, I managed to run into my male self along the way. And by /“run into/”, I mean literally."

"Predictably, he just waved me off, leaving me on the ground. Asshole."

"I managed to get the monitor to the front gate. Itsuko wasn’t there."

"I managed to find her near the bottom of the hill, near the bike racks, waiting by a taxi."


Itsuko "I apologize. They became very angry with me, and I had to grab the computer, the peripherals, and run away."

Kyonko "It’s fine. …This your usual ride? This world’s version, I mean?"

Itsuko "No, I’m afraid it is only an ordinary taxi."

Kyonko "Ordinary, huh?"

---

ELSE

"The operation was pulled off without a hitch. Unless you consider Itsuko not being at the meeting place a hitch."


"I managed to find her near the bottom of the hill, near the bike racks, waiting by a taxi."


Itsuko "I apologize. They became very angry with me, and I had to grab the computer, the peripherals, and run away."

Kyonko "It’s fine. …This your usual ride? This world’s version, I mean?"

Itsuko "No, I’m afraid it is only an ordinary taxi."

Kyonko "Ordinary, huh?"

---

"In this way, I arrived at the café. Asahina-senpai looked particularly glad to see me."


Itsuko "So, let’s see. Is this all the hardware you need, Nagato-san?"

Yuuki "Sufficient."

Itsuko "Ah, good. I wouldn’t want to go back there for a while."


"Asahina-senpai was hard at work peeling the covering off of one end of the yellow crossover cable, which had been cut for some reason."


Mitsuuru "How did you two get this, anyway? You said you found the, uh, box—"

Itsuko "It is normally referred to as a /“tower/” I believe."

Mitsuuru "The box abandoned in an empty clubroom, but this screen looks brand new."


"I buried my head in my hands."


Kyonko "I don’t want to talk about it. Please."

Itsuko "Yes, now, the question is, where are we going to set this up?"

Mitsuuru "Yeah, that’s what I was wondering. We’re getting stares enough as it is, with you two lugging that stuff in here."


"And you playing with some cable doesn’t look slightly odd, Asahina-senpai?"


Kyonko "Um, well, we need somewhere with an outlet and an internet connection… somewhere that’s open right now and would put up with us for a few hours… I’d say a hotel, but they don’t let rooms hourly, and I don’t think we could afford a room anyway…"


"Itsuko’s smile suddenly grew very large."


Itsuko "I have a place in mind we could go to. But first, let’s get dinner. I hear this place serves wonderful pasta, and I believe Nagato-san still has some money left…"

"Nagato nods."


"After a delicious meal, we made our way to Itsuko’s /“place in mind/”."

"(I believe this is about where you came in.)"


Mitsuuru "No."

Itsuko "But they have a discount for large groups! We’ll be able to afford renting a room for a few hours this way."

Mitsuuru "N-no, I am in no way going into a love hotel with you three. What if someone sees?"

Itsuko "No one is going to care. No one on this side knows who we are, remember?"


"I had been unable to respond up until this point out of sheer shock."


Kyonko "I agree with Asahina-senpai! I’m not going in there. I refuse. I absolutely refuse."

Mitsuuru "Yes! Listen to her!"

Itsuko "Oh? Can you think of anywhere else that rents by the hour, and has a discount rate?"

Kyonko "Spuh. I... Fine."


"H-how did you even know about this place?"


Itsuko "I know lots of things. <3 Come on, don’t be shy. Desperate times, remember."


"The receptionist, an older woman trying to look young, smiled at us knowingly when we entered. Don’t give me that look, you old hag."

"This place is poorly-maintained and covered in cheap pink. Ugh. I don’t hate pink, but when every damn thing in the room is that color…"

"Itsuko managed to negotiate us a room for four hours (argh!) and we finally made it inside and somewhere relatively quiet."

"Ugh. More pink. At least there’s a shower, which I’m starting to feel I need to get rid of an oncoming migraine. But, of course, the bathroom walls are transparent."

"What a stereotypical love hotel. This could be part of a franchise."


Kyonko "Why are we in a love hotel!?"


"No, this was where you came in.)"


"Itsuko and Mitsuuru were beginning to set up the computer."


Itsuko "Lucky for us, this place has an in-house internet connection. It’s mostly used for wireless connections, but simply plugging this into the phone jack should work."

Mitsuuru "…Um… what’s a phone jack?"

Itsuko "Never you mind, I’ll do it all myself."


"And, eventually, miraculously, the machine sputtered to life."

"WxNDOWS 95."

"What a piece of junk…. "


Itsuko "Internet is hooked up as well. So, ah, what are the plans for that crossover cable?"


"That’s what I was about to ask."

"Nagato took the exposed end of the cable and… rolling up his sleeve, he shoved it into his lower arm. Into the veins."

[Totally need a CG for this]

"…"

"He held up the other end of the cable."


Yuuki "Plug this in."


"I obliged him, plugging it into the router computer."


Mitsuuru "Okay. That was disgusting. That can’t possibly—"

Yuuki "Connecting. Dialing… Dialing…"


"You run on dial-up?!"


Itsuko "…Well, I never said it was a decent Internet connection."

Kyonko "Oh."


"We waited for over three hours in that incredibly pink room, hearing Nagato's /"dialing, dialing/" over and over again. I thought I was going to go nuts."

"And then, finally."


Yuuki "Connection established. Transference of data completed."

Mitsuuru "...Huh. I didn’t think that would ever work...."

Yuuki "Displaying information onscreen."


"Suddenly, the monitor displayed what looked to be the interior of a small, inexpensive apartment."

"Displayed in the corner of the screen were, in Roman characters, /“EMORI K./” "


Kyonko "…We did it."


*KSSSSSSHHHHHHH*
Editted in the results of our discussion about the Yuuki/Computer/Internet thing.

To refresh, it's working as such now: Yuuki is using the computer's processor to boost his own processing ability, which allows for very limited reality hacking. He then is slowly hacking into other systems on the Tokyo WAN, which is allowing him to do some cloud computing for slightly better reality hacking (though still nowhere near his normal ability, as Earth Computers < Yuuki's processing power and there's still a finite limit to the data transference speed across the WAN). However, over the course of the three hours he manages to get enough done that he's able to dimension hack and establish contact with Emori.

[scify]

The Search


Grunt 1 "We’re still not picking up anything."


"Two men in military uniform sat at desk, discussing amongst themselves."


Grunt 2 "I know the PDT System is still experimental, but the first time they tested it, it definitely worked."


"The space on this desk was taken up by what looked very similar to an old telephone switchboard, except that it was not old, but sleek and new. The military grunts were hard at work flipping switches, punching buttons, and reading printouts."


Grunt 1 "Well, that might be because they were only able to test it by tracking people in Closed Space."

Grunt 2 "And that’s only because the Brains can’t figure out how to slide yet."

Grunt 1 "Yeah, they can’t even get teleportation down."

Grunt 2 "Harder than it sounds."

Grunt 1 "Still, Closed Space is still part of our own universe, right?"

Grunt 2 "No one really knows."

Grunt 1 "So maybe that’s why we can’t track her down at all. The PDT doesn’t actually work."

Grunt 2 "Don’t say that, or the last three hours will all have been a huge waste."

Grunt 1 "Speaking of Closed Space… did you HEAR what happened at the main HQ?"

Grunt 2 "…Yeah. I heard. I saw the building, actually. Completely destroyed. All the people on the upper floors are missing, probably dead, and most of those on the lower floors are at the least injured."

Grunt 1 "And, supposedly, it’s all because her and her friends are gone…"

Grunt 2 "And the world is falling apart as a result. Listen to the rain."


"The first soldier listened. The rain was heavy."


Grunt 2 "It’s been like that since this morning, and there’s no signs of it stopping. The meteorologists are baffled… Frankly, I think it’s terrifying what an unstable world we live—"


"A cough from the corner of the room silenced him."

"The cough originated from a tall, brown-haired man smoking a cigarette, and, oddly, wearing what can only be described as a /“spy outfit./” Black, form-fitting, with armor plates on the joints and fake muscles sown out of Kevlar."

"Satou Mori considered the suit his /“work clothes./” Everyone else thought he was slightly mad."


Satou "Oi. You two."

Grunt 2 "Er, yes, sir?"

Satou "Any progress on finding Itsuko-chan?"

Grunt 1 "No, no sir, unfortunately, the PDT isn’t picking up anything. The machine might not actually be capable of—"

Satou "Tch."


"Satou Mori flicked his cigarette at them."


Satou "I’ll tell you why it isn’t working. It isn’t working because you lack love."

Grunt 1 "……Sir?"

Satou "Love. The key to using that machine is the simplest, and yet most complex emotion of all. Love. Do you, Corporal, have a woman in your life?"

Grunt 1 "Well, no, sir, my job doesn’t afford me the time for—"

Satou "Exactly. You, Other Corporal. Do you have a woman in your life?"

Grunt 2 "Well, I’m gay, sir."

Satou "Then do you have a man in your life?"

Grunt 2 "No, sir, it’s kind of difficult to find a—"

Satou "Exactly. The PDT system isn’t working because neither of you can feel love. You lack the capacity to reach across the heavens, the infinite heavens, and touch the tender, sweet hands of the one that you hold most dear."

Grunt 2 "Uh, so, what do you suggest we—"

Satou "Move aside, soldier. I will use this machine. I will find Itsuko-chan. With love."


"The two soldiers quickly got of the way as Satou Mori approached the PDT system and sat down. He immediately began flipping switches and punching buttons in a complicated pattern."

"It was clear to even an amateur’s eyes that he had no idea what he was doing."


Grunt 1 "Uh, sir, I don’t think this is a good—"

Grunt 2 "Leave it. He’ll have figured it out in ten minutes, and then he’ll be doing our job for us. Let’s go on break."


"However, they only made it a few steps outside the door of the PDT room when they were addressed by a very large man in combat gear who clearly outranked them."


Officer "You two. Where is Agent Satou Mori?"


"The two soldiers snapped smartly to attention."


Grunt 1 "Sir! In the room behind us, sir! He volunteered to take over for us while we took our break, sir!"


"The voice of an old woman came out from behind the hulking officer."


??? "Now now, there’s no need to be so nervous. At ease, gentlemen."


"The soldiers complied, although their minds were most definitely not at ease. Stepping out from behind the scary officer was another, even scarier person."

"She was an old woman in combat gear. Her nametag read /"Arakawa./" "


"The first soldier began to sweat noticeably. The second one was able to keep his cool until the other person stepped out from behind the large officer."

"He was a young man with a serene smile and curly hair, wearing a high school uniform."


Kimidori "Emori Kimidori. It’s very nice to meet you all."


"Everyone in the Agency knew what it meant when a random high school student showed up at HQ. Especially one wearing that distinct blue blazer."

"It meant trouble."


Arakawa "You can tell that kid that he can stop working so hard. …I can hear him hitting the buttons from out here."


"It was true. You could."


Kimidori "In fact, you can tell him that I’ve found them."


INTERLUDE END

[scify]

The Power of Love (II)


"Kimidori /“turned on/” his eyes for us again, and displayed on the screen was the back of a man frantically working at some machine. Kimidori seemed to be sitting down behind him."


Emori "You should be able to communicate through me. Please try saying something."

Itsuko "Ah, hello?"


"The man froze."


Man "There we are. I am done. I have made contact with her. Love prevails."

Itsuko "Hnnnhh…"


"Itsuko immediately held her head as though she was suffering intense pain."


Kyonko "…Mori-san?"

Satou "Hmm? Who are you? You’re not Itsuko-chan. Why is your voice inside my head?"


"Itsuko whispered to us."

Itsuko "I would ask you to refrain from speaking while I make my report, please. It will go faster that way."

Kyonko " /“Understood/”, I guess."


"Another voice, offscreen. It sounded like Arakawa-san."


Arakawa "…Just turn around, Mori."


"Mori-san swings around in his chair."


Satou "Oh, I didn’t notice you all here. Great news! I just made contact with Itsuko-chan!"


"…I didn’t know Mori-san could be this dumb."

Itsuko "Actually, Mori-san, it was we who made contact with Kimidori-san here."

Satou "…Itsuko-chan? Why is your voice coming out of this boy’s mouth?"

Itsuko "…It’s the nature of the connection we’ve established. Unfortunately, you’re not able to see us, and Kimidori-san says we don’t have the time to set up a system similar to the one we have here."


"I should probably explain who these people are."


"Emori Kimidori is a second-year I met back in June, who was posing as the boyfriend of our Computer Society President. Until today, I had no idea he was another humanoid interface, but it makes sense, in retrospect."

"Satou Mori-san and Arakawa-san I both met during our trip to the island this summer. They were working as hired help at the mansion, and, as such, the last time I saw Mori-san he was wearing a butler uniform, not the… spy outfit he’s clothed in now."

"It turned out that both Mori-san and Arakawa-san (who, incidentally, just walked into view, wearing khaki combat gear) were working for Itsuko’s /“Agency/”. Which explains their state of dress."


Arakawa "He’s perfectly right in saying that we don’t have time. Please, make your report as quickly as possible, and we’ll relay what information we can back."


"Out of her maid uniform, Arakawa-san, seemingly a nice old woman, is completely different."


Itsuko "We have somehow found ourselves in a universe where many of the people we once knew are the opposite gender."


"Mori-san and Arakawa-san look at each other in confusion."


Satou "The opposite gender?"

Itsuko "Indeed. Suzumiya-san included."

Arakawa "Hmm. Does the Suzumiya-san in that universe have any trace of the power ours does?"

Itsuko "Unknown, though she does seem to have, ah, similar interests, and the SOS Brigade still seems to exist in the same form."

Satou "I’d think that would confirm it, then."

Arakawa "Our suspicions? I hope not."


"Suspicions?"


Arakawa "Do you know how you all got into that universe, Koizumi?"


"Itsuko glances at me."

"…What? Why did you just give me that look?"


Itsuko "…No, as of yet we have no idea how we were trapped here, though I have several theories, if you’d like to hear--"

Arakawa "I already said we don’t have much time."


"I heard Asahina-senpai chuckling behind me."


Arakawa "Actually, if that’s the case, Koizumi-chan… you’re not going to be able to come home."


"…!"


Kyonko "…What, exactly, does that mean?"

Arakawa "Ah, is that Kyon-chan? Good to hear from you. …You see, we haven’t yet developed the technology to slide across dimensions. We have no way of bringing you home."

Satou "What?! But you told me earlier that--!"

Arakawa "That was to keep you from going ballistic! I’m sorry, Koizumi, Kyon-chan, but… until you figure out for certain how this happened, we can’t even begin to formulate a plan."

Itsuko "Which is why a theory would—"

Arakawa "We can’t run off of conjecture. We’ve got to have proof. We’ve already thought that it could be Suzumiya-san behind this, believe me, and if it is him, or, indeed, any Suzumiya-san, we have even less hope."

Kyon-chan "Well… what about the Data Overmind? Shouldn’t they be able to bring us home, if we can communicate like this? Couldn’t you just convert us to data and send us across or something?"

Emori "We probably could, but the process might, first of all, kill you, and second of all, Nagato-san would have to remain behind if we went that route."


"And that’s unacceptable. Nagato remaining behind, I mean."

"Asahina-senpai, mostly quiet until now, butts in."


Mitsuuru "Has anyone from my group contacted you? Anyone at all?"

Satou "…Ah, it’s Mitsuuru-kun, right? Someone from the future was here earlier, but… he’s among the missing."

Itsuko "…The missing…?"

Arakawa "…Several hours ago, the main Agency HQ was attacked… by an Avatar appearing in broad daylight."


"……"

Arakawa "It vanished soon after, but most people working there are considered either dead or missing."


"Itsuko clenched the edges of her skirt."


Mitsuuru "So the only person my group sent… is dead? Killed by one of those figments? That’s…"

Kyonko "…Could your people have gotten us home, Asahina-senpai?"

Mitsuuru "That’s classified."


"……If an Avatar showed up in the real world… that’s bad. That’s very, very bad."

"I don’t want to know the answer to this question. But I think I already know the answer."


Kyonko "…How is Haruki doing without us?"

Arakawa "…Let me put it like this. Today’s weather was supposed to be sunny and beautiful. It’s been raining since this morning, and it’s only getting worse."

Kyonko "Ah."

Arakawa "He’s the reason we don’t have much time. Things could come to a head at any minute."

Kyonko "That moron… who said he had the right to get so depressed without all of us?"

Satou "It’s not just because all of you are gone. It’s because you in particular are gone that he ended up like this."

Kyonko "What are you trying to say, Mori-san?"

Satou "It’s the power of love!"


"Please tell me I’m not blushing right now. Please."


"From the other side, I can hear the noise of thunder rumbling."


Itsuko "Was that…?"

Arakawa "The storm’s getting worse…. Please, listen carefully. If you want to get home, you had better find out how you got there to begin with. And please, hurry. I don’t know much time this world has left in it, with Suzumiya-san in this state…."

Satou "And Itsuko-chan, don’t forget to"


"Static."

"How is there static on an LCD monitor?"

"It doesn’t matter. They’re gone."


Yuuki "Disconnected. Connection lost." [ED Note: I assume the connection dies from the Seitenkan side, not the Normal one. If it's the opposite, the original would be more correct.]


"…"


Kyonko "…So. Now what are we going to do?"

Mitsuuru "I guess we better get used to our new lives here, huh?"

Kyonko "…You’re just going to give up?"

Mitsuuru "What other choice do we have? How are we supposed to find out how we got here in the first place? Just go around and start asking people?"

Kyonko "That’s better than just accepting this! I’m not going to stay in a love hotel forever! I want to go home!"

Itsuko "...Actually, our four hours are almost up. It’s time to leave anyway."


"...She wasn't smiling at all."

"…Itsuko seemed to be really shook up by what we heard earlier, about the Avatar attacking their headquarters. I wonder…?"


Kyonko "Itsuko…? Are you—"

Itsuko "Of course, we could just pay for the whole night here. I think they have a nice going rate for—"

Kyonko "…Nevermind."

Mitsuuru "…I’d rather not stay in here longer than I have to."

Itsuko "But these beds are so comfortable."

Mitsuuru "There’s only two beds!"

Itsuko "Exactly. One for the boys and one for the girls. Or if you like we could change it up a bit and—"

Kyonko "Okay, it’s check out time."


"I headed towards the door and waited for them there, hands on my hips."

"Itsuko was doing her best to lighten the mood. After all, it’s true that we might really be trapped here forever."

"But like I said, I’m not going to give up. There has got to be some way we can get home."

"…Haruki’s powers are supposed to be able to do anything."

"…So shouldn’t it be the same way for any Suzumiya?"

"…"

*KSSSSH*
I can see Itsuko taking a bit of vicious pleasure in her teasing at the end there. Sort of an outlet for how she's feeling on the inside.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I can see Itsuko taking a bit of vicious pleasure in her teasing at the end there. Sort of an outlet for how she's feeling on the inside.

Pretty much, yeah.

I love Itsuko. <3


Also, "The shadow nods at the television, which regains the ability to speak.

There's this literary techique I'm fond of that anthropomorphizes what objects do in order to make the reader think differently about them.

I thought using it in certain scenes, like that one, would be most interesting.

Gulp.

Also, thank you for your hard work.

Slurp.

[swtrooper42]

Itsuko's and Mitsuuru's relations seem much more strained then their counterparts.
Maybe that can come into play in a route.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Itsuko's and Mitsuuru's relations seem much more strained then their counterparts.
Maybe that can come into play in a route.

Very much so.

[Khu]

There's this literary techique I'm fond of that anthropomorphizes what objects do in order to make the reader think differently about them.

I thought using it in certain scenes, like that one, would be most interesting.


I think the word you're looking for is 'personification'. :heh:

[CrowKenobi]

I think that he has Mike the TV (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReBoot) tied up there... :p :heh:

[dragon4dudes]

If I may say, that line I do not recall reading it, I must have thought it was normal or something... Funny

[swtrooper42]

I just gazed past it and thought that it was a creative way of saying he turned it on again.

Personification.
Language is fun isn't it?

[bhl88]

I'm nearly done with extracting the music. The last problem is fitting all of the music inside the mail... I'll have to send it in 5 parts or something (limit is 10 MB)



Yes, that's gone as well. While I wanted to wait until I had at least the rest of the TFEI done, I'll post the update...

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/51793Moeman/seitenkanmother3style-2.png

EDIT: Oh, whoops, the little Apple Kid-font list is something for my own reference so I won't need to look at the pictures repeatedly. Heh.

EDIT2: please ignore my stupidity on mixing up the two student council presidents

Holy crap I'm contributing with original images.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/51793Moeman/seitenkanmother3style.png

I bring you the Seitenkan cast in a Mother 3 style. Well, right now we only have Glasses!Yuuki, Yuuki, and Kyonko, but soon I'll add the rest of the Brigade and then keep adding till I'm either done or I get bored of it.

Done with the main Brigade, as well as Long-Haired Haruki.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/51793Moeman/seitenkanmother3style-1.png

Mitsuuru was a bitch to sprite. I ended up just saying "fuck it" and editing Yuuki's head.

Indeed. :heh:

The updated version will have Itsuko in Zettai Ryouiki. I forgot it this time since I just edited Kyonko's base model a bit (...who was also edited off Kumatora), but I'm going by the all-male and all-female cast member pics.

For the curious, you can find 'em by looking in the Tsuji group social board image section.

Damn, I like those sprites...

[HikariNiwa]

I'm nearly done with extracting the music. The last problem is fitting all of the music inside the mail... I'll have to send it in 5 parts or something (limit is 10 MB)


Damn, I like those sprites...

I still believe Kyonko should have grade-A Zettai Ryouki

[bhl88]

Yeah she should (except that she would lack the twin tails to make it a grade S).

@allmusiciansfortheVNProject: PM me your emails to get the files for the music.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I'm nearly done with extracting the music. The last problem is fitting all of the music inside the mail... I'll have to send it in 5 parts or something (limit is 10 MB)

Wait, wait, what music and where are you getting it from?

I still believe Kyonko should have grade-A Zettai Ryouki

Hmm, probably for the spring/fall uniform, yeah...

[bhl88]

Wait, wait, what music and where are you getting it from?


Oh it's all Suzumiya Haruhi music (doujin games). If you like to check it out, PM me your email. (Make it yahoo... hotmail doesn't seem to work...)

[DJ_RockmanX]

Regarding music, just send me suggestions via email or PM.

And now Day 5.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4348/tsujivnday5.pngSeptember the Sixth, Day 5


5th Day: Memories: Flashes in Space (Rhapsody) (The first of the Haruki flashbacks. Kyon observes Haruki meeting Kyonko for the first time in middle school.)

IF HijackTrigger=8 THEN
5th Day: Morning: There’s One at the Door (Tsuruya knocks on Kyon's door, and barges into his house, to his surprise.)
IF HijackClear=False THEN
[to Hijacked]
IF HijackClear=True THEN
-...Close the door and go back to bed. [A Glorious Morning, Spent Sleeping, [Rejected=True]; to A Glorious Weekend]
-...Let her inside. [Hijacked [HijackRoute=True]; to Interlude 11] (Yes, that means the entire day is skipped.)

ELSE [Rejected=False] (Without the requisite Hijack Triggers, the following scene plays.)

5th Day: Breakfast: But It Felt So Real (Kyon muses on what a strange dream he just had, and discusses dreams with his sister.)

5th Day: Phone Call: The Glorious Weekend (With nothing else to do, and eager to contact someone about the mysterious events that have been occurring, Kyon decides to call…)
-Asahina-san… Maybe she’ll know something. [Sweetest Voice- No Go, Mikuru +2; MikuruConvo=True]

-Nagato… I can ask her what was really up the other day. [Silent Voice- No Trust, Yuki+2; YukiConvo=True]

[IF ItsukoConvo=True]
-Koizumi… I get the feeling if anyone knows what’s going on, It’s him. [The Masquerade; ItsukiConvo=True]
[ELSE]
-Koizumi… I get the feeling if anyone knows what’s going on, It’s him. [Fabulous Voice- No Answers]

[IF Tanzaku=True]
-Haruhi… wait, do I really want to subject myself to that? [Indignant Voice- No Love, Haruhi +2; HaruhiConvo=True]


5th Day: Memories: Flashes in Space (Restlessness/Melancholy) (Kyon decides to go out for the day, and decides he’ll bring the headphones along. When he puts them on, however, he’s thrown into flashbacks to Haruki’s days in junior high, ending with his introduction in Melancholy.)

5th Day: After Noon: A Glorious Day (Snapping awake, Kyon realizes an hour has passed. He still hasn’t really connected it to the headphones, and still decides to take them with him to…)

IF Tanzaku=True AND HaruhiConvo=True THEN
-Didn’t Haruhi say she was going on a ‘search’ by herself…? [to Lonesome]
-I might head to a mall or something… [to Impulse Buy]
-Kind of hungry… the convenience store it is, then. [to Do Androids Eat Electric Beef?]
-Could go to the record store and find out how much Haruhi’s headphones are worth… [Flagless- “I”; to POINT CHECK]
-Maybe I’ll go to the library…[Flagless- “K”; to POINT CHECK]

IF ItsukoConvo=True AND ItsukiConvo=True THEN
-I’ll walk around town for a bit. [Flagless- “H”; to POINT CHECK]
-I might head to a mall or something… [to Impulse Buy]
-Kind of hungry… the convenience store it is, then. [to Do Androids Eat Electric Beef?]
-Could go to the record store and find out how much Haruhi’s headphones are worth… [to Super Model]
--Maybe I’ll go to the library…[Flagless- “K”; to POINT CHECK]

IF RoutesClear>=4 AND MissingShoes=False THEN
-I’ll walk around town for a bit. [Flagless- “H”; to POINT CHECK]
-I might head to a mall or something… [to Impulse Buy]
-Kind of hungry… the convenience store it is, then. [to Do Androids Eat Electric Beef?]
-Could go to the record store and find out how much Haruhi’s headphones are worth… [Flagless- “I”; to POINT CHECK]
-Maybe I’ll go to the library…[Bad First Impression OR All Smiles]

ELSE
-I’ll walk around town for a bit. [Flagless- “H”; to POINT CHECK]
-I might head to a mall or something… [to Impulse Buy]
-Kind of hungry… the convenience store it is, then. [to Do Androids Eat Electric Beef?]
-Could go to the record store and find out how much Haruhi’s headphones are worth… [Flagless- “I”; to POINT CHECK]
-Maybe I’ll go to the library…[Flagless- “K”; to POINT CHECK]


[Haruhi Day 5 Subset Scenes] (The content here is the very definition of an outline, as I really haven’t thought it through and god I’m tired.)

5th Day: Streets of Nishinomiya- Lonesome (Kyon manages to find Haruhi by chance.)
-Offer to go with her. [Friendship is a Wonderful Thing; Haruhi+5; to Mysterious Event]
-Wish her luck. [Reason For…; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Streets of Nishinomiya- Mysterious Event (Fluff. While ‘searching the city’. Kyon brings up the headphones, which he puts on, and…)

5th Day: Memories: Memories in Pieces (SUZUMIYA) (Quick flashbacks through Haruki forming the SOS Brigade, and a few of his thoughts during Melancholy. Along the way, some things get confused.)

5th Day: My Room: Brigade Chief’s Duty (Kyon, apparently having passed out, awakens to Haruhi watching over him in his room. Awkward fluff ensues. Haruhi eventually goes home. Etc. etc.) [HaruhiMeeting=True][to POINT CHECK]



[Mikuru Day 5 Subset Scenes]

5th Day: Shopping Arcade: Impulse Buy (Kyon encounters Mikuru attempting to purchase some cute and cheap trinket. Turns out she doesn’t have enough money.)
-Buy it for her. [Shining So Hard it Hurts the Eyes; Mikuru+5, to Just Like Old Times]
-Apologize to the shopkeeper for her. [Eeeeeeeh!?; Mikuru –1, to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Riverside: Just Like Old Times (The fluff to end all fluff. At some point, Mikuru asks Kyon about his headphones, and…)

5th Day: Memories: Memories in Pieces (ASAHINA) (Quick flashbacks to Mitsuuru’s introduction and joining of the SOS Brigade, as well as broraping. Along the way, some things get confused.)

5th Day: Hospital: The Panic Button (Kyon wakes up in the hospital, Mikuru at his bedside. After he collapsed, she panicked and called an ambulance… eventually, Kyon manages to get out of the hospital and go home.)[MikuruMeeting=True][to POINT CHECK]


[Yuki Day 5 Subset Scenes]

5th Day: Corner Store: "Do Androids Eat Electric Beef?" (Kyon runs into Yuki buying food, prompting him to question whether or not she actually needs food. (And yes, the title needs work. I need something you “eat of” to really do this joke.))
-Ask her. [Take That, Ridley Scott; Yuki+5, to Latest Novels]
-See her off. [Now We’ll Never Know; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Bookshop: Latest Novels (Semi-fluff, but mostly Nagato-ish humor while buying new books. Eventually, Yuki ‘asks’ what Kyon is doing with the headphones, since she feels something wrong. Eventually, Kyon decides to put them on Yuki’s head, and…)

5th Day: Memories: Memories in Pieces (NAGATO) (Quick flashbacks to Yuuki’s introduction and joining of the SOS Brigade, as well as a couple other things. Along the way, some things get confused.)

5th Day: Nagato’s Apartment: My Hero (Kyon wakes up at Nagato’s place, having been dragged there by her after he fell unconscious. Semi-fluff. Kyon thanks her and goes home yaaay.) [YukiMeeting=True][to POINT CHECK]



[Itsuko Day 5 Subset Scenes]

5th Day: Downtown: Supermodel (Kyon runs into Itsuko at the record shop, listening to music. She starts talking philosophy at him immediately upon seeing him.)
-I know exactly what she’s talking about. [Anthropic Principle; Itsuko+2; to Palpitations]
-…What? [Inadequate; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Streets of Nishinomiya: Palpitations (I) (Kyon and Itsuko walk through town together, on a whim. Somewhat nervous, Kyon attempts to make conversation.)
-Ask her what kind of music she likes. [Out of Character; Itsuko+3; to Riverside Stroll]
-Bring up her incredible looks. [Bother?; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Riverside: Riverside Stroll (Semi-fluff. Itsuko brings up the headphones and how expensive they obviously are. (At this point, she thinks he more resembles Haruki than Kyonko.) Kyon so much as lifts them over his head, and…)

5th Day: Memories: Memories in Pieces (KOIZUMI) (Quick flashbacks to Itsuko’s introduction and joining of the SOS Brigade, as well as a couple of her secret discussions with Haruki. Along the way, some things get confused.)

5th Day: The Park: Beautiful Dream, Beautiful Waking (Kyon wakes up to see Itsuko looking down at him, sleeping on a park bench. She suggest that he should probably go home, as it’s getting dark, and that she’ll see him around. Kyon complies.) [ItsukoMeeting=True][to POINT CHECK]


[Kyonko Day 5 Subset Scenes]

IF ItsukoConvo=False AND Thief=False THEN
5th Day: Library: Bad First Impression (Kyon runs smack dab into Kyonko in the library, knocking her over again. She immediately glares at him with a look of utter hate.)
-She looks angry. I should probably apologize for yesterday. [Card; Kyonko+1; to Pangs for the Memories]
-She looks angry. I should probably avoid confrontation. [Scared Flagless; to POINT CHECK]

IF ItsukoConvo=False AND Thief=True THEN
5th Day: Library: All Smiles (Kyon runs smack dab into Kyonko in the library, knocking her over again. A conversation ensues.)
-Help her get a library card. [Card; Kyonko+1; to Pangs for the Memories]
-…I have other things to do… [Bored Flagless; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Streets of Nishinomiya: Pangs for the Memories (Kyonko, not having eaten since lunch yesterday, is starving… and complaining about it.)
-...Take pity on her and buy her food. [The Knight (I); Kyonko+2; to Girl A’s Story]
-I need to save money for the next time I'm late. [Petty, and Flagless; Kyonko –30; Moron=True; to POINT CHECK]

5th Day: Streets of Nishinomiya: Girl A's Story (Kyonko spins a story about how she got to be utterly homeless and broke: It mirrors what really happened. It’s about this time that she notices the headphones. And, so, like usual…)

5th Day: Memories: Memories in Pieces (MYSELF) (Kyon manages to keep conscious somehow… to an outsider, and to Kyonko, it merely looks as though he’s suffering some kind of attack… random flashes of Kyonko’s interactions with Haruki go through his mind, and along the way, some things get confused.)

5th Day: Evening - My House: Domicile-Challenged (That evening, Kyon and Kyonko wind up outside Kyon's house. Kyonko again mentions that she has nowhere to sleep.) [KyonkoMeeting=True]

[IF Thief =False, THEN Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]

[IF Thief =True, THEN]
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]

IF RoutesClear >=5 THEN
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]
-I'll find you a place to sleep, I promise. [Expressed Thanks, Kyonko+15, IF Rejected=False, THEN TrueRoute=True; IF Rejected=True, THEN FinalRoute=True; to Searching Around]

5th Day: Evening - My House: Sneaking In (Kyon attempts, and somehow succeeds, to get Kyonko inside his house.)

5th Day: Evening - My Room: Nayuki (Kyon, desperate to call Kyonko something else other than “Girl A” decides to dub her “Nayuki”. Kyonko tries to use her cellphone, then remembers it doesn't work, then realizes that Itsuko is going to kill her, but she’s having too much fun…)

5th Day: Night - My Room: A Strange Day (Kyon thinks about how incredibly strange and clichéd today was, even for him. He then realizes he can't get to sleep thanks to hearing “Nayuki's” breathing.) [To Interlude 10]

5th Day: Night – Streets of Nishinomiya: Searching Around (Kyon decides to entrust Kyonko with Yuki, introducing her as his cousin, “Nayuki Kentaro”, not telling the truth at her request. Yuki, of course, doesn’t believe him. Kyon, deciding he's done his job well, returns home.) [To Interlude 10]


POINT CHECK

IF Haruhi<=0 AND Yuki<=0 AND Mikuru<=0 AND Itsuko<=0 AND Kyonko<=0 THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Premonition (Kyon has a bad feeling about what's to come.) Final Answer]

IF Haruhi=Yuki=Mikuru=Itsuko=Kyonko THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Premonition (Kyon has a bad feeling about what's to come.) Final Answer]

IF Haruhi=Greatest AND Haruhi>=10 AND Tanzaku=True AND HaruhiMeeting=True THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Phone Call (Haruhi) (Haruhi calls Kyon, wondering if he’s all right, and asking him if he wants to search for mysterious events again tomorrow with her.) [DivineRoute=True; to Final Answer]

IF Yuki=Greatest AND Yuki>=9 AND YukiMeeting=True THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Phone Call (Nagato) (Yuki calls Kyon, requesting to talk to him at her place tomorrow.) [AlienRoute=True; to Final Answer]

IF Mikuru=Greatest AND Mikuru>=9 AND MikuruMeeting=True THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Phone Call (Asahina-san) (Mikuru calls Kyon, calling him out tomorrow.) [TimeTravelerRoute=True; to Final Answer]

IF Itsuko=Greatest AND ItsukoMeeting=True AND Itsuko >=9 THEN
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Obsessive (Kyon gets home, and finds that, oddly he can't stop thinking about ‘Kitsuko’.) [EsperRoute = True; to Final Answer]

ELSE
5th Day: Evening - My Room: Premonition (Kyon has a bad feeling about what's to come.) [BadEnd3=True; to Final Answer]


IF CooperationRoute=True OR TrueRoute=True OR FinalRoute = True THEN
Interlude 10: Final Answer (The three abnormals of the Seitenkan Brigade meet up at Kitaguchi Station. Itsuko is worried sick about Kyonko, and slowly becoming more and more upset about it, but she doesn't have the time… as Yuuki reveals he's made contact with Kimidori again, and he also reveals Haruki’s Awakening.)

ELSE
5th Day: Kitaguchi Station: Final Answer (Kyonko meets up with the other three, who reveal that Yuuki has contacted the other side again... and they reveal that the world is falling apart and Haruki has lost it. It's only a matter of time before their world is completely destroyed for good.)

5th Day: Memories: Flashes in Space (Melancholy’s End) (Kyon, having realized what the headphones do and being incredibly curious about them, decides to listen to them one last time. He sees the end of the Melancholy arc, and also a sudden flash of…)

Interlude 11: From God to Slider (Haruki, experimenting with his new powers and control over the Avatars, finally decides to break out of the universe and find his friends, as the three groups fall into utter disarray as everything falls apart around them.)

IF TimeTravelerRoute=True THEN
Interlude 11A: Slipstream (Big Mitsuuru, bandaged, effectively dead, and full of hatred, stalks Haruki. As he sees Haruki slide out, he uses his TPDD follows in the dimensional slipstream…)

Interlude 12: Once More Unto… (The Shadows in the dark room await the beginning of the end, once again. Again.)

Again.



DAY 5 END

[Roger Rambo]

Hmm, probably for the spring/fall uniform, yeah...
When does the Visual novel take place again?


and Itsuko should totally wear dark pantyhose.

[Kaisos Erranon]

When does the Visual novel take place again?

September. Hence the summer uniforms.


and Itsuko should totally wear dark pantyhose.

Too hot for pantyhose in the VN (she's wearing zettai ryouki) but yeah, fall/winter/spring, totally black pantyhose.


...Actually, come to think of it, what color are her panties, normally...? >_>

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

My eyes hurt now... thanks for that. :heh:

[Roger Rambo]

Too hot for pantyhose in the VN (she's wearing zettai ryouki) but yeah, fall/winter/spring, totally black pantyhose.
Ah, so it's like the length of their leggings correspond with the level of land above water on two hills of different heights during a flood.

Winter/Spring
Itsuko:Pantyhose
Kyonko:Zettai Ryouki

Summer
Itsuko:Zettai Ryouki
Kyonko:Regular knee high's


Itsuko is cruelly dedicated to the art of innocuously fetishy leggings.


...Actually, come to think of it, what color are her panties, normally...? >_>
...Black. Itsuko comes off as someone who'd go with darker undergarments (Not necessarily lacy though). You can't really have black pantyhose and light underwear. It doesn't work.

Maybe dark purple.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I'm actually thinking Kyonko might resort to pantyhose in midwinter, as well.

...Which she promptly has to remove the minute Haruki forces her into a Santa outfit, but...


...Black. Itsuko comes off as someone who'd go with darker undergarments (Not necessarily lacy though).

I can, however, see her wearing lacy stuff anyway.

She's a secret agent, she'll need to seduce men eventually...


Maybe dark purple.

Hot.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'm actually thinking Kyonko might resort to pantyhose in midwinter, as well.

...Which she promptly has to remove the minute Haruki forces her into a Santa outfit, but...

... That totally sent the wrong message. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

... That totally sent the wrong message. :heh:

Pantyhose =/= underwear. :heh:

Not that I can't see Haruki making her wear more "festive" panties, either, but... Actually, if he suggested that, she'd probably just kick him in the balls again.

[wittyusername]

I'm actually thinking Kyonko might resort to pantyhose in midwinter, as well.

...Which she promptly has to remove the minute Haruki forces her into a Santa outfit, but...

What's so bad about a Santa wearing pantyhose? If anything, that's an improvement.

Also, in winter, would they be wearing tights or pantyhose? Pantyhose, while attractive, don't offer much warmth. Or any warmth at all, actually.

[Roger Rambo]

I'm actually thinking Kyonko might resort to pantyhose in midwinter, as well.
Yes.

It's cold after all :3

...Which she promptly has to remove the minute Haruki forces her into a Santa outfit, but...
...why?
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LrVeq41js#t=0m26s)

I can, however, see her wearing lacy stuff anyway.

She's a secret agent, she'll need to seduce men/women eventually...
True.

It just seems that the smooth elements of pantyhose wouldn't work as well with lacy underwear.

Hot.
Yes.


Also, guess what I edited in your post?

[Kaisos Erranon]

What's so bad about a Santa wearing pantyhose? If anything, that's an improvement.

"Tch. Kyon, don't you know anything? Santa doesn't wear pantyhose. Santa wears red-and-white striped thigh-highs (so that your legs look like candy canes, but more delicious)."

"...! Santa doesn't wear anything like that at all! Santa is an old man, and I don't even want to think about what he'd look like wearing pantyhose OR thigh-highs!"

"Kyon, try to keep up with the times. These days, anyone can be Santa Claus. Even you. Now put on your costume already, or I'll leave you and it in the room alone with Koizumi-san."

"..."

Also, in winter, would they be wearing tights or pantyhose? Pantyhose, while attractive, don't offer much warmth. Or any warmth at all, actually.

Probably tights, yeah. Not that Haruki knows or cares about the difference.


Also, guess what I edited in your post?

:rolleyes:

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Pantyhose =/= underwear. :heh:

Well yeah... still, it is a bit awkward. :heh:

[worldruined]

It just seems that the smooth elements of pantyhose wouldn't work as well with lacy underwear.
Depends on the style of underwear and the type of lace.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Talking about girls' undergarments... I'd say this is a new one here. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

... Talking about girls' undergarments... I'd say this is a new one here. :heh:

No, remember the time you guys suggested that Kyonko's "most precious object" would be her panties?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Fair enough, though I'm pretty sure I was against that idea...

[Roger Rambo]

"Tch. Kyon, don't you know anything? Santa doesn't wear pantyhose. Santa wears red-and-white striped thigh-highs (so that your legs look like candy canes, but more delicious)."

"...! Santa doesn't wear anything like that at all! Santa is an old man, and I don't even want to think about what he'd look like wearing pantyhose OR thigh-highs!"

You mean like the ones here (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8735/christmass.jpg)?

"Kyon, try to keep up with the times. These days, anyone can be Santa Claus. Even you. Now put on your costume already, or I'll leave you and it in the room alone with Koizumi-san."

"..."

...I suddenlly have the image of Haruki concluding that putting socks/leggings on and off not really counting as changing clothing and deciding he can handle that after Itsuko gets Kyonko changed.

I find this incredibly kinky for some reason.

Probably tights, yeah. Not that Haruki knows or cares about the difference.

"oh look, tight legging materials"

[Kaisos Erranon]

You mean like the ones here (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8735/christmass.jpg)?

Yup. The one piece of anime merchandise I own is that picture as a wall scroll.

I was looking at it while coming up with that piece of dialogue. :heh:

...I suddenlly have the image of Haruki concluding that putting socks/leggings on and off not really counting as changing clothing and deciding he can handle that after Itsuko gets Kyonko changed.

I find this incredibly kinky for some reason.

You're not the only one...

"oh look, tight legging materials"

The sad part is that he doesn't know the difference between pantyhose and tights, yet he knows what rubber underwear looks like.

Boy would be gay if he weren't so straight.

[scify]

Wow... I'm not sure if the new chart helps me understand Day 5 more, or if it manages to impede my ability to make sense of everything. Definitely much more colorful, though.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Wow... I'm not sure if the new chart helps me understand Day 5 more, or if it manages to impede my knowledge.

Day 5 is very complicated, yes.

Day 6 should be somewhat less so, given that it's effectively in a route at that point.

Only the final scenes and the memory interludes are the same in (almost) every route on that day, so it should be easier to understand, flowchart, and code.

[bhl88]

lol sorry about the error, the link that I sent will be due: October 30 @ 05:38 PM MST

XD but what do you guys think of the music

[swtrooper42]

Well well. I wander away and look what happens.

Yup. The one piece of anime merchandise I own is that picture as a wall scroll.
I just have an SOS brigade medallion. I carry it in my pocket wherever I go.
Boy would be gay if he weren't so straight.
This sentence is so true.:heh:

[bhl88]

Well well. I wander away and look what happens.


I just have an SOS brigade medallion. I carry it in my pocket wherever I go.

This sentence is so true.:heh:

I hum Hare Hare Yukai in my head or something wherever I go XD

[vivify93]

Boy would be gay if he weren't so straight.
"So that's General Leo... He could be my friend, if he weren't my enemy."
"Everyone's been...slightly berserk since the Esper was discovered."

And in addition to those lines, Katarin is only a little bit pregnant.

(The underlying message is "Kaisos, that sentence makes no sense.")

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

In all fairness, the General Leo remark makes a lot of sense.

[Ithekro]

"So that's General Leo... He could be my friend, if he weren't my enemy."

This is actually a common statement if the commanders actually respect each other or in the cases of Civil Wars, really were friends before they were placed on different sides of the war. Some generals has books written of them or by them in their lifetimes, and personality and interest wise, other generals, even on the opposing sides, respected them, and as the quote says, could have been their friend, if he wasn't their enemy.

The other two quotes are what is called, extreme understatements.


As for underwear...At least it is be discussed in a serious fashion....though why it needs to come up at all...aside from being a background detail...is unclear. Though in respect we did see both Mikuru and Haruhi's underwear from time to time (Mikuru's more often). So it could be said that there could easily be a scene of someone walking in on Kyonko and/or Itsuko...though since parts are in Kyonko's point of view, I doubt she'd make remarks on it for the audiance. (Kyon on the other hand might point things out)

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... We could have Kyon walk in on Kyonko changing at some point in the VN...

And no, I'm not serious about this suggestion... Would be a funny scene, though. Especially if we get to see it from both points of view. :heh:

[bhl88]

lol wonder what that would look like....

just like Mikuru
Kyonko: You dumbass!
Kyon: Excuse me!

@DJ_RockmanX/Kaisos: What do you think of the mp3 that I sent to you guys

[vivify93]

Everyone meeting everyone? Hmm.

Kyonko: God, I can't believe my male self is so shallow.

Mitsuuru: God, I can't believe my female self is so useless. And hot.

Itsuko: Ara ara~. Quite attractive, but not my type.

Yuuki: ...

Haruki: Damn, I make a hot girl. Say Kyon, why can't you have her bust?

[Ekul]

... We could have Kyon walk in on Kyonko changing at some point in the VN...

And no, I'm not serious about this suggestion... Would be a funny scene, though. Especially if we get to see it from both points of view. :heh:

Would be even funnier if the other characters got wind of it.

Koizumi: How interesting. I would like to have seen that! *Awkward silence* I mean the look on your face. And the Freudian implications of her responses and um, the whole um... Look, it could be worse, I mean at least she didn't walk in on you. Now THAT I would like to see. Your reactions, I mean. ...Organization members keep suicide pills in case of an emergency situation, could you hand me my bag?

[Kaisos Erranon]

Everyone meeting everyone? Hmm.

Kyonko: God, I can't believe my male self is so shallow.

Mitsuuru: God, I can't believe my female self is so useless. And hot.

Itsuko: Ara ara~. Quite attractive, but not my type.

Yuuki: ...

Haruki: Damn, I make a hot girl. Say Kyon, why can't you have her bust?

This is like. Why I love the Seitenkan cast so much.

They're so much more entertaining.

[vivify93]

I agree. The Prime Universe cast would be like...

Kyon: Ponytail? Yay! Tiny boobies? Baw.

Mikuru: W-Waah! (Translation: "Were I capable of coherent thought at the current moment, I would undoubtably call my male self a raging asshole.")

Itsuki: My, how lovely you are. (insert more dimestore compliments here.)

Haruhi: Jesus I'd be a dick were I male. (The joke is, she's already a bitch!)

...Screw it, I've already established I can't write worth shit for the Prime cast.

Also Yuki would be all triple-period on Yuuki's ass. (Thought I'd forget her, didn'tcha Kogetsu? :p)

(Does this post have a gratuitous amount of parentheses usage?)

[dragon4dudes]

Yes, very much so and very interesting...

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Yuki would double it. Which would force Yuuki to try and double that... this would go back and forth for hours, resulting in a battle of such great intensity that it would shatter the heavens.

Or they'd just start reading books.

[CrowKenobi]

I would think that they would mimic Mr. Spock by saying "fascinating" and raising an eyebrow, and then pick a book to read... :p :D

[Binjovi]

Mitsuuru has many faces. Here are some of them:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1074190/Many%20Faces%20of%20Mitsuuru.png

[Heatth]

Mitsuuru has many faces. Here are some of them:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1074190/Many%20Faces%20of%20Mitsuuru.png

Nice as aways.

Hmmm, Mitsuuru has developed in a quite complex character, eh? Mikuru would only use two of these. I liked the last one. For I second I tought it was a weird smile, but then I get it was a defiant smile. Probably reserved to Itsuko. :p

Oh, about the "shocked" one (the first). While is good, it don't pass the "scared" emotion. I know it was probably not the intention, but for Mitsuuru, "scared" seens more important. Hmmm, I guess you just wanted to play if some less used expressions. It isn't easy find any of those in fan art.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Hmmm, Mitsuuru has developed in a quite complex character, eh? Mikuru would only use two of these.

What is true for one is true for the other. Mitsuuru just doesn't have to pretend to be innocent to seduce a certain teenage boy who happens to be the Key to the Universe.

[Heatth]

What is true for one is true for the other. Mitsuuru just doesn't have to pretend to be innocent to seduce a certain teenage boy who happens to be the Key to the Universe.

Wait! Isn't it a contradiction? How it can be true for both if you just stated they act differently?

Anyway, my post was a compliment, you know. :p For both you and Binjovi.

[Binjovi]

Nice as aways.

Hmmm, Mitsuuru has developed in a quite complex character, eh? Mikuru would only use two of these. I liked the last one. For I second I tought it was a weird smile, but then I get it was a defiant smile. Probably reserved to Itsuko. :p

Oh, about the "shocked" one (the first). While is good, it don't pass the "scared" emotion. I know it was probably not the intention, but for Mitsuuru, "scared" seens more important. Hmmm, I guess you just wanted to play if some less used expressions. It isn't easy find any of those in fan art.

Thank you very much! :D

Yes, the far right is a sort of "smug" look. I've been wanting to do that one for a while. As far as the left goes, it was originally intended as a "I can't believe this" more than "pure terror" (Though there's a bit of that in there as well). In both Kaisos' and Aebliss' writing Mitsuuru doesn't seem to trust anyone or believe in any kind of "non-scientific" happenings, so I felt this look was rather appropriate.

[scify]

Wait! Isn't it a contradiction? How it can be true for both if you just stated they act differently?

Anyway, my post was a compliment, you know. :p For both you and Binjovi.I'd say that it's more of a claim that their base issues are the same, but the way they react to them is different because they're different people in ultimately different situations.

[Jintor]

So, someone tell me how to write Kyon narration, as opposed to Kyonko narration.

Tell me the differences.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Kyon doesn't know how to shut up about how hot Mikuru and, to an extent, Haruhi are. Kyonko doesn't do that with Mitsuuru or Haruki. That'd be the main difference. :heh:

[CrowKenobi]

What? Are you implying that Kyonko is more mature than Kyon? :p :D

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'm more implying that Kyon is more shallow than Kyonko.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Wait! Isn't it a contradiction? How it can be true for both if you just stated they act differently?

Behaviour and personality, not situation.

In both Kaisos' and Aebliss' writing Mitsuuru doesn't seem to trust anyone or believe in any kind of "non-scientific" happenings, so I felt this look was rather appropriate.

Mitsuuru is very anti-fantasy, yes.

I'd say that it's more of a claim that their base issues are the same, but the way they react to them is different because they're different people in ultimately different situations.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

The motto of Tsuji might as well be "boys and girls are different, but ultimately the same."

So, someone tell me how to write Kyon narration, as opposed to Kyonko narration.

Tell me the differences.

Uhhh... :heh: It's really hard to describe. Kyonko generally comes off as nicer and more interpersonal, but complains a lot more. Her narrative also tends to flow a little better and use more slang, whereas Kyon is slightly more formal.

[bhl88]

Everyone meeting everyone? Hmm.

Kyonko: God, I can't believe my male self is so shallow.


I'm more implying that Kyon is more shallow than Kyonko.

lol it's all true.

While Kyon would be rambling about everything Asahina-san (how cute she is) and Haruhi (and how hot she is)... Kyonko would be rambling about how she can't handle both Asahina-kun (how useless he is) and Haruki (and what a ba***** he is) in her sentences (both not using it in all of their sentences).


the powerbattle.mp3, 005.ogg, Mikuru in a Pinch.mp3, Mikuru transforms.mp3 sounds like it could be used for chase between Yuuki+Kyonko and Yuki/Kyon
While the spacesong part is for the dark corners of the organization or something
and the schoolsong.mp3 and story.mp3 for the school/normal days part.

[Heatth]

As far as the left goes, it was originally intended as a "I can't believe this" more than "pure terror" (Though there's a bit of that in there as well). In both Kaisos' and Aebliss' writing Mitsuuru doesn't seem to trust anyone or believe in any kind of "non-scientific" happenings, so I felt this look was rather appropriate.

My mistake then. At first, I tought it was a "terrifyed look" because it is more common for him. But, I agree this face also fit very well on him. I have to fix something I said before, of all four, only one would be used by Mikuru. :p

Also, as I said, that expressions are interesting because aren't common on regular fan art.

Behaviour and personality, not situation.

I see, I must have misunderstood you post. Errr, I still didn't understand what you said, btw.

Uhhh... :heh: It's really hard to describe. Kyonko generally comes off as nicer and more interpersonal, but complains a lot more. Her narrative also tends to flow a little better and use more slang, whereas Kyon is slightly more formal.

Ugh, I guess you won't like what I am going to question but... why? While I can understand half you said, the underlined part don't make any sense to me. Why would Kyon be more formal?

I'd say that it's more of a claim that their base issues are the same, but the way they react to them is different because they're different people in ultimately different situations.

I understand that. I just don't understood what Kaisos posted. I commented Mitsuuru developed as a more complex character then Mikuru, (I understand why, btw) and then Kaisos came with two contradictory statements. As far I understand, what is true for one is not true for other. That is why they are so different even tough their base are the same.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Ugh, I guess you won't like what I am going to question but... why? While I can understand half you said, the underlined part don't make any sense to me. Why would Kyon be more formal?

It might simply be the translation from Japanese to English, (even the official translations do this) but the narrative in the original novels is extremely stilted.

During my rewrites, I tried to smooth this out, and the result was that Kyonko ended up sounding more human.

It's still pretty subtle though.

I understand that. I just don't understood what Kaisos posted. I commented Mitsuuru developed as a more complex character then Mikuru, (I understand why, btw) and then Kaisos came with two contradictory statements. As far I understand, what is true for one is not true for other. That is why they are so different even tough their base are the same.

The "what is true for one is true for the other" is something Greentext said early on, and will probably continue to be interated over and over again throughout the story.

It does not refer to situation, it refers to personality and psychological issues. Even if each pair are outwardly different people in different situations, they still are, at the core, the same.

...I'm sorry if this is a difficult concept to express, but I think everyone else is getting it... :heh:

Maybe it would help to say that Mikuru is just as complex as Mitsuuru is, but can't show it, because being ever so slightly yandere isn't very moe to Kyon?

[scify]

Maybe it would help to say that Mikuru is just as complex as Mitsuuru is, but can't show it, because being ever so slightly yandere isn't very moe to Kyon?So you ascribe to the theory that Mikuru actually has character depth hidden behind her facade of uselessness? Interesting...

[Heatth]

It might simply be the translation from Japanese to English, (even the official translations do this) but the narrative in the original novels is extremely stilted.

During my rewrites, I tried to smooth this out, and the result was that Kyonko ended up sounding more human.

Then is just a writing style or you did it for some reason?

The "what is true for one is true for the other" is something Greentext said early on, and will probably continue to be interated over and over again throughout the story.

It does not refer to situation, it refers to personality and psychological issues. Even if each pair are outwardly different people in different situations, they still are, at the core, the same.

...I'm sorry if this is a difficult concept to express, but I think everyone else is getting it... :heh:

I actually understand the comcept. Just didn't understood how the phares express it. Specially outside a context. While now I know what you meant, it can be interpreted in more then one way when read alone. When you posted after my previous post it wasn't that clear.

Anyway, it was also my fault here. "Complex" is not the word, what I was trying to say is Mitsuuru developed quite different from Mikuru.

PP:
Maybe it would help to say that Mikuru is just as complex as Mitsuuru is, but can't show it, because being ever so slightly yandere isn't very moe to Kyon?
Wait! Now this confuses me. I, by reading you Mitsuuru was under the impression it was quite the oposite, Mikuru being naturaly moe for Kyon while Mitsuuru tryes (and fails) to show of a bit. Also, I understood Mitsuuru confrontional personality as being a man who has the same personality as Mikuru but finds it ridiculous and trys (and fails) to change, or, at last appear differently. So, I understood Mikuru was the most natural of both. Not that he fakes his confrontatinal-ness, but is just his personality changes more then Mikuru's due to the envirronment.

[Kaisos Erranon]

So you ascribe to the theory that Mikuru actually has character depth hidden behind her facade of uselessness? Interesting...

This is the sort of thing I have to do, given the TT route would suck otherwise. :heh:

I've always imagined Mikuru secretly being just a little bit like Shuffle's Kaede. Just a little bit.


Wait! Now this confuses me. I, by reading you Mitsuuru was under the impression it was quite the oposite, Mikuru being naturaly moe for Kyon while Mitsuuru tryes (and fails) to show of a bit. Also, I understood Mitsuuru confrontional personality as being a man who has the same personality as Mikuru but finds it ridiculous and trys (and fails) to change, or, at last appear differently. So, I understood Mikuru was the most natural of both. Not that he fakes his confrontatinal-ness, but is just his personality changes more then Mikuru's due to the envirronment.

Mikuru would stand up for herself a lot more if she wasn't playing a role. It's a theory a lot of the fandom has that she's just faking a lot of her moe-ness, and it's something I ascribe to.

In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.

[Heatth]

Mikuru would stand up for herself a lot more if she wasn't playing a role. It's a theory a lot of the fandom has that she's just faking a lot of her moe-ness, and it's something I ascribe to.

In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.

I don't know... I remember Itsuki saying (in Chamed) he envys her because she do not acts before Haruhi... But this was Itsuki, so is kinda hard to tell...

Hmmm, if I understood well, you are saying you believe Mikuru partially like she appears to be but also play more her "moe" side? I mean, she is a coward useless girl, but exagerate a bit for Kyon.

(Interestingly, this you make both Itsuki's contradictory statement true, when he said she is faking, in Sighs and when he said he acts naturally with Haruhi (she indeed fake, but fo Kyon, not Haruhi)

[CrowKenobi]

In reality, she's probably a lot like Kaede, as above, or Sakura Matou.Nah, I think she would be just like this... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaofxjtv-U0) :D

A bit of steel underneath that velvet glove... :p

[scify]

STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT, I DON'T NEED TO GO TO CLASS.

Irritation

"The room is even more of a mess than before."

"The food wrappers have increased in volume. There’s enough of them to paper the walls. (He had raided the cupboards downstairs.)"

"There appears to be an increase in the volume of garbage, but that’s because every drawer in the room had been emptied. (He had been searching for something.)"

"The pockets of every single piece of clothing (that had pockets) were turned inside out. (He had still been searching, but it’s not like a pocket could fit what he was looking for anyway.)"

"The stack of manga in the corner of the room had turned into a jumble of manga spreading out from the corner of the room, almost like a melting scoop of vanilla ice cream, with sprinkles, that had fallen onto the ground, and splattered little bits everywhere. (He had wondered if they had gotten lost under the manga somehow.)"

"The room had not been like this when he had left for school this morning. (That was also when he had forgotten them, which had turned out to be a big mistake.)"

"At school, he had begun the day by interrogating his classmates about Kyonko’s whereabouts. (He had bullied Taniguchi and Kunikida so much that they had to be sent to the nurse’s office, and he the principal’s.)"

"No luck. No luck at all."

"During his first break, he had rushed to Itsuko Koizumi’s classroom to interrogate her classmates. (They weren’t the least bit intimidated by him.)"

"No luck. No luck at all."

"During his next break, he went to Yuuki Nagato’s classroom a few doors down to interrogate his classmates. (Terrified of the angry and clearly upset intruder, they said they didn’t know where he was, but that it wasn’t uncommon for him to miss a class or two.)"

"No luck. No luck at all."

"During lunch break, he had gone to Mitsuuru Asahina’s classroom to beg his classmates to tell him where he had gone. (They didn’t know.)"

"No luck. No luck at all!"

"Even Tsuruya, who might have known something, wasn't there either. (No cause for more concern; his classmates had said that he had 'called in bored'.)"

"No luck, no luck, no luck, no luck! No luck at aaaaaallllll!"


"Haruki Suzumiya had gone home after that."

"He walked home in the rain, not having bothered to bring an umbrella. On some level, he blamed himself for what had happened."

"Being soaked was all he deserved."


"It was about this time that the rain began to get noticeably worse. Except that he didn’t notice."

"Haruki Suzumiya wished that he could break something. He didn’t, but something else did."

"Somewhere in the city, a building crumbled. A lot of people died."

"Acceptable. (But not for the bereaved.)"


"When Haruki Suzumiya got home, he took all the snack food and candy out the kitchen, and went up to his room without a word to anyone or anything."

"When he had flopped down on his bed, he was intending to enjoy an afternoon of solitude and melancholy."

"It was about this time he noticed they were missing."


"And that was how the room had gotten into that state. (It was also because he had used up some of his pent-up energy throwing manga at the walls.)"

"Haruki Suzumiya is now in the mood to clean it all up. This is because he is irritated, and has nothing else to do."

"Nothing else at all. Because his xxxxxxxxxx are missing."

"Haruhi Suzumiya loved his xxxxxxxxxx so very much. They had been a present for one of his birthdays, and they were about the only thing he owned that he really took care of."

"He’d use them whenever he felt down. Or whenever he felt happy. Or whenever he felt anything."

"But his xxxxxxxxxx were gone. He was positive that they were gone. The room wouldn’t be such a mess if he hadn’t searched that hard."

"Do you understand what it means to lose something that you love so much?"

"Do you understand?"

"Do you really understand?"

"Do you really, truly, understand?"

"Do you really, truly, completely understand?"

"Haruki Suzumiya considered his xxxxxxxxxx to be his soul, and now they were gone."

"His soul had been taken from him."

"So it may be easy to understand why Haruki Suzumiya is so irritated."

"Irritation breeds frustration breeds Closed Spaces full of angry red giants. That’s the way of things."

"It’s late evening. Haruki Suzumiya is punching his pillow and trying not to cry. (Men don’t cry. Not real men. They hold in their tears until they’re full to burst.)"

"What is this? Why? Why? Why did they all leave him behind? Why?"

"Are they just playing with him? Are they just hiding? Did they sneak in here and steal his xxxxxxxxxx too?"

"Maybe they’re just inside my closet, laughing at me?"

"He wrenched open the closet door. No luck at all. It was empty."

"He had searched there earlier anyway. Why he’d expect to find anything in there now is anyone’s guess."

"Haruki Suzumiya wasn’t crying. He really wasn’t. (Men don’t cry. They hold in their tears until they’re full to burst.)"

"Instead, he punched a hole in his wall at the injustice of it all."

"He wasn’t sad. He wasn’t angry. He was merely irritated. That’s all he was. (Men hold in their tears until they’re full to burst.)"

"Outside the window, out in the rain and wind, thunder was rumbling."

"The news had said that this storm was record-setting. Something Haruki Suzumiya, until yesterday, would have cared about. He would done something crazy, like drag the SOS Brigade out in the wet and cold, just to witness the storm of the century."

"Is that why they left?"

"I’m sorry."

"I’m sorry."

"I’m so sorry."

"I'm goddamn sorry!"

"Please, just come back... I want to see all of your faces again..."

"I want to apologize. (I’m holding the tears in until I’m full to burst.) So please, please."

"Come back."



"I’m not crying."

[scify]

Headphones

"The first thing I did when I got home was dump my bag in my room, change out of my uniform, and then go downstairs to help my sister with her homework, like she asked."

"When I did that, there was nothing on my pillow whatsoever."


Kyon "So why, then, is there something on there now?"


"Sitting on top of my pillow is a set of yellow and grey headphones, plugged into a faded yellow xPod. Placed on top of them is a small white card with /“Happy Birthday Kyon/” printed on it."

"…To clear things up, it’s not my birthday. My birthday—"

"Someone’s knocking at my door. It’s my sister."


Sister "Hey, Kyon, can I borrow the scissors again?"

Kyon "Yeah, sure."


"Why she doesn’t just take them for herself, I don’t know. I never seem to find myself using them…."

"Where was I… right, the mysteriously appearing headphones."


"Unless my mother came upstairs and put them here while I was helping my sister… there should have been no way for anyone to get in here."

"…I look outside the window. The trellis is fine. No sign of climbing or any damage at all. Thank god, I don’t want to fix it again."

"No person could have left these here. So I guess I should regard this as a paranormal event… Exactly what should I do with these, then?"

"This xPod was probably expensive… although, taking a closer look, yellow wasn’t its original color… in fact, the yellow paint is peeling on the back, revealing the silver color beneath."

"…Did someone buy this used? I think if someone actually painted a music player, it would drop in value dramatically."

"Although, the headphones… I don’t listen to music as a hobby, but I can tell that these are extremely good quality headphones. Furthermore, they look brand new. Someone took very good care of these."

"The only sign of ownership is a series of Roman characters etched into the underside. On the left side is… C… O… O… L… and on the other side… S…H…R…I…N…E…"

"What does that even mean? I’ll have to grab a dictionary from downstairs later."

"Still, I have to wonder… if this thing is used, and still works despite the paint, does that mean there’s still music on it?"

"I’ve heard that music is a window to the soul. If I listen to what’s on here, I might find out something about the person who originally owned this."

"…Is it safe to put these on? They might make my head explode or something."

"That’s stupid. I put the headphones on, and try to find the “On” switch on the xPod."

"…Where are the buttons…? Ah, there’s something like that on the front. I couldn’t see because of the paint—"

"It turns on by itself."


Kyon "Wha—?"


"Disappear, remains, now this love burn"
"Is of the past, a painful prick in my heart"
"Together we'll overcome love"
"Another season, HERE IT COMES"

"A bittersweet song about lost love, sung by a young man, echoes into my ears."

"I listen to the song all the way through as I play with the xPod, trying to figure out how to turn it off. Apparently set on /“repeat/”, the song loops a few more times before I’m done."

"The person who originally owned these lost his love, huh…?"

"My mother called me a few times for dinner, but these headphones cancel noise so well that I didn’t hear her until she rapped loudly on my door."

"…"


"The burning remains in my heart"
"A painful love burn"

"HERE IT COMES"

"HERE IT COMES"

*KSSSSSSSSSSSSH*

[HikariNiwa]

I don't know... I remember Itsuki saying (in Chamed) he envys her because she do not acts before Haruhi... But this was Itsuki, so is kinda hard to tell...

Hmmm, if I understood well, you are saying you believe Mikuru partially like she appears to be but also play more her "moe" side? I mean, she is a coward useless girl, but exagerate a bit for Kyon.

(Interestingly, this you make both Itsuki's contradictory statement true, when he said she is faking, in Sighs and when he said he acts naturally with Haruhi (she indeed fake, but fo Kyon, not Haruhi)

So the amount of acting Mikuru does is dependent upon the situation.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

The hell?! I'm gone for a couple days and not even an entire page was added? This project really has slowed down a lot. :heh:

Um... relevance... relevance...

Right. Mikuru can't be acting. Not a lot of people can pull off "pathetic" on a daily basis without actually being pathetic, and I have severe doubts she'd be one of them. :heh:

[bhl88]

Yeah it slowed down a bit or it's because everyone's busy XD

Poor Haruki... now he's begging for everyone to come back XD

[luap1138]

Shifting the topic, I have a question about the Day 5 Outline; I'm probably just misunderstanding something, so forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question:

[IF Thief =True, THEN]
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]

IF RoutesClear >=5 THEN
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]
-I'll find you a place to sleep, I promise. [Expressed Thanks, Kyonko+15, IF Rejected=False, THEN TrueRoute=True; IF Rejected=True, THEN FinalRoute=True; to Searching Around]

Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.

I hope that makes sense. As I said I probably just missed something in the outlines/flowcharts/writeups. If so, sorry.

Also, though I've been a long time lurker, this is my first actual post here! I hope to join the madness that is seitenkan :D.

[CrowKenobi]

As the official greeter seems to be MIA:

"WELCOME, YOU WILL SERVE KYONKO WELL" :heh:

And to join the madness, all you have to do is to contribute to one of the eventual off-topics that seem to never go away! :D

[Tensei]

I believe we should call this thread "The Madness of the Followers of Kyonko.":heh:

why are people talking about Mikuru here, I'm lost:twitch:

[Heatth]

Shifting the topic, I have a question about the Day 5 Outline; I'm probably just misunderstanding something, so forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question:

[IF Thief =True, THEN]
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]

IF RoutesClear >=5 THEN
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]
-I'll find you a place to sleep, I promise. [Expressed Thanks, Kyonko+15, IF Rejected=False, THEN TrueRoute=True; IF Rejected=True, THEN FinalRoute=True; to Searching Around]

Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.

I hope that makes sense. As I said I probably just missed something in the outlines/flowcharts/writeups. If so, sorry.

Also, though I've been a long time lurker, this is my first actual post here! I hope to join the madness that is seitenkan :D.

I believe the Thief=True does apply. It wouln't make sense if doesn't. So, I believe the correct would be:
IF Thief=True And RoutesClear >=5 THEN
-...Well, good luck out there, then... [Muttered Thanks; to POINT CHECK]
-...You know, my place is open... [The Low Bow; Kyonko+20; CooperationRoute=True; to Sneaking In]
-I'll find you a place to sleep, I promise. [Expressed Thanks, Kyonko+15, IF Rejected=False, THEN TrueRoute=True; IF Rejected=True, THEN FinalRoute=True; to Searching Around]
(the code isn't, actually, like that. But that don't matter.)

Oh, yeah, be welcome. The madness might be frigthing at first, but it pass as soon yu become mad as well. :)

I believe we should call this thread "The Madness of the Followers of Kyonko.":heh:

why are people talking about Mikuru here, I'm lost:twitch:

I agree about that name, but who is talking about Mikuru?

PP:
Oh, wait, I was one of the ones who was talking about Mikuru. :heh: That is why you shouldn't post while sleepy. :p I was actually talking about Mitsuuru. Talking about Mikuru is to help to understand MikuruMitsuuru.

[CrowKenobi]

Talking about Mikuru is to help to understand Mitsuuru.I believe you actually wanted to say that... :p :D

[Heatth]

I believe you actually wanted to say that... :p :D

Why? Isn't true talking about Mikuru helps to understand herself? Can't you believe I totally write it in purpose and didn't made up an explanation latter? :innocent:

Well, actually not, obviously. Yeah, it was indeed what I wanted to say. That is why you shouldn't post too late at night. :p (it worth saying it is past 4am here where I live)

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

"Know yourself, know your animus and you hold the key to victory."

... Okay, so I changed it. Bite me. :p

[besieger]

"Know yourself, know your animus and you hold the key to victory."

... Okay, so I changed it. Bite me. :p

OMNOMNOMNOMNOM

Actually counterparts have things that are the same and things that are completely different so it's nice to do a comparison.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I said BITE, not EAT! :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Does the Thief=True condition apply to the third choice as well, or is the RoutesClear >=5 condition the only one that matters? I'm asking this because, from what I can tell from the outlines and flowcharts, getting all 8 Hijack triggers, necessary for getting Rejected=True, bars you from getting Thief=True. Assuming Thief=True is also required for the third dialogue option, then this means that Final Route is inaccessable.

Ah, I knew I missed something... You're perfectly right.

I'll just remove Thief being a prereq for Final then... Final isn't even a route in the same way the others are, so it's easy...

Actually I should change that from "FinalRoute=True" to "FinalRoute=Unlocked"...

[Khu]

...

You are working with a premade engine, right?

That lets you do this easily right?

*imagines coding from scratch*

@_@

[besieger]

I'm just taking a... BIG bite.

Ah, I knew I missed something... You're perfectly right.

I'll just remove Thief being a prereq for Final then... Final isn't even a route in the same way the others are, so it's easy...

Actually I should change that from "FinalRoute=True" to "FinalRoute=Unlocked"...

That makes no sense in terms of code, actually. We'd probably just rename the variable to "FinalRouteUnlocked=True" instead.

...

You are working with a premade engine, right?

That lets you do this easily right?

*imagines coding from scratch*

@_@

But we are. :heh:

[luap1138]

As the official greeter seems to be MIA:

"WELCOME, YOU WILL SERVE KYONKO WELL"

ALL HAIL THE KYONKO! :bow: :D

Ah, I knew I missed something... You're perfectly right.

I'll just remove Thief being a prereq for Final then... Final isn't even a route in the same way the others are, so it's easy...

Actually I should change that from "FinalRoute=True" to "FinalRoute=Unlocked"...

Glad I could help. :) Also, on the VN in general, I just want to say that this is looking awesome! I've been digging Binjovi's art, and Kaisos, I think you are an excellent writer. I'm hoping to make this the first VN I've ever played. Can't wait to read more of Day 5 (though I understand if its going to be a while before more is written; it looks... complicated. And mindscrewy. :twitch:)

Anyway, keep up the good work! :D You have my support.

[bhl88]

lol though I want to send you my other music... I'm going to have to upload it again in transferbigfiles or something

[DJ_RockmanX]

Glad I could help. :) Also, on the VN in general, I just want to say that this is looking awesome! I've been digging Binjovi's art, and Kaisos, I think you are an excellent writer. I'm hoping to make this the first VN I've ever played. Can't wait to read more of Day 5 (though I understand if its going to be a while before more is written; it looks... complicated. And mindscrewy. :twitch:)

Anyway, keep up the good work! :D You have my support.

Hopefully we should be getting back to work soon. I think we've worked out most of the kinks and have had a nice break.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Hopefully we should be getting back to work soon. I think we've worked out most of the kinks and have had a nice break.

I can start anytime after next Tuesday night... I need to work on an essay Monday evening and probably most of Tuesday morning.

So look forward to the first real scene of Day 5 in a couple days, and maybe that Hijack scene if I feel creative enough... or decide on how far Tsuruya should try to push Kyon, hahaha.

[bhl88]

I wonder if there's a menu or something for that (probably it's (Continue), New Game and Options).

Would there be a "Save" Option before the multiple choice questions?

[Heatth]

Will be a menu, yeah, of course. And, yes, you can save at any part of the game. You can have how many save files you want too.

[bhl88]

There's probably credits.... :heh:

Project leader DJ_Rockman
.
.
.
.
.
.

Supporters (all the people who posted in the genderbending thread)

THE END

[Joe4evr]

Hmm...

Project Leader: DJ_Rockman

Writer: Kaisos Erranon

Editors: <a whole list of 'em>

Crack Theorists: (lol:heh:)

Supporters: All the people who posted in the Seitenkan thread

Special thanks: YOU for playing

The End.

Come to think of it, throw Kyonko in there somewhere as well.:heh:

[bhl88]

We also need the guy or the group who made the Seitenkan came true and a moe Kyon a reality.

Don't forget the Radical Three and The Top Four Leaders... (Binjovi, DJ_Rockman, Kaisos Erranon, scify...)

Yasu's the culprit. :heh:

[Jintor]

Forgotton already? Tears.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

No "Greentext: Midori"? I don't see Joe being around 4evr...

Okay, I'm kidding. Nothing's going to happen to you... ;)

[swtrooper42]

Gasp! I'm.....
NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH!? :sad:

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

You're supporting cast. Given how the series works, you should be glad you even have a name. :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

I wonder if there's a menu or something for that (probably it's (Continue), New Game and Options).

Would there be a "Save" Option before the multiple choice questions?

Hmm. The typical eroge main menu setup is:

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME/CONTINUE/WHATEVER
OPTIONS
QUIT

After you finish at least one route, it's

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME
EVENT VIEWER
CG VIEWER
MUSIC PLAYER
OPTIONS
EXTRA
QUIT

In our game, after 100% completion it'll look something like

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME
-FINAL-
EVENT VIEWER
CG VIEWER
CREDITS VIEWER
MUSIC PLAYER
OPTIONS
EXTRA
QUIT

Questions?

Will be a menu, yeah, of course. And, yes, you can save at any part of the game. You can have how many save files you want too.

Not 'how[ever] many'. :p Although some games have an upper limit of 100 save files, I think we should be limited to 50 at the very most...

*snip*

I am not writing this entire thing. I'm doing the First Week, the Esper Route, and the CoOp Route, and the majority of the last three routes, but I am NOT doing the whole thing. :heh:

*snip*

As usual you have no idea what you're talking about. Jintor was the editor before scify and if he wants to continue he's very welcome to do so.

Gasp! I'm.....
NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH!? :sad:

Wait, you did stuff?

This is a serious question. I've actually forgotten. Apologies.

[swtrooper42]

I am not writing this entire thing. I'm doing the First Week, the Esper Route, and the CoOp Route, and the majority of the last three routes, but I am NOT doing the whole thing. :heh:
Then who is doing the writing for the *counts* six other routes? (That's correct right? Alien, Time Traveler, God, Hijack, True, Final)

Wait, you did stuff?

This is a serious question. I've actually forgotten. Apologies.
That was mostly me being dramatic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JB0_OGXn5Y#t=05m24s) for the sake of drama. I really haven't done anything for the project beyond offer feedback. The most I could do is possibly write and I'm not really confident in that.

[Heatth]

Hmm. The typical eroge main menu setup is:

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME/CONTINUE/WHATEVER
OPTIONS
QUIT

After you finish at least one route, it's

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME
EVENT VIEWER
CG VIEWER
MUSIC PLAYER
OPTIONS
EXTRA
QUIT

In our game, after 100% completion it'll look something like

NEW GAME
LOAD GAME
-FINAL-
EVENT VIEWER
CG VIEWER
CREDITS VIEWER
MUSIC PLAYER
OPTIONS
EXTRA
QUIT

Ah, good to know. I suppose I should work on it. I shouldn't be hard.

Right now the menu is like:
New Game
Load Game
Extra (I just put it arbitrarly without thinking too much)
Preferences(options)
Help (read the readme, standard for ren'py)
Quit

So, you want to put all extra stuff outside the (admittedly useless) extra button right? And having then appearing only after the first play, right?

Not 'how[ever] many'. :p Although some games have an upper limit of 100 save files, I think we should be limited to 50 at the very most...

Well, ren'py standard is limitless. The standard save screen have 8 pages with 10 slots for save, however, there is a "next page" button, allowing you to go the 9yh page, and then to 10th, 11th, 12th and ad infinitum. So, why put a limit? The save files are small, and they only occup space if you use them, so, don't matter if the limit is 50 or 500, if you have 3 save files, then this is the only amount of space is being used.

I am not writing this entire thing. I'm doing the First Week, the Esper Route, and the CoOp Route, and the majority of the last three routes, but I am NOT doing the whole thing. :heh:

Do we already have the other writers? Jintor is writing Alien, but and the rest? Also, you may not being ewriting the other routes, but I imagine you are going to revise, right? If only to make the game more consistent.

As usual you have no idea what you're talking about. Jintor was the editor before scify and if he wants to continue he's very welcome to do so.

About the credits, I believe it would be nice putting the most regular members/people-who-don't-actually-do-stuff-but-do-good-critics in a "speciall thanks", along with a line "and to all who frequent the Genderbend Thread in Anime Suki Fórum".

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Do we already have the other writers? Jintor is writing Alien, but and the rest?

I'm doing... something... at some point...

[Heatth]

I'm doing... something... at some point...

Errr, good? :heh:

I remember you saying you are not doing Time-Travel because the route is too awesome and you don't believe in yourself... So, I guess you could do some bad end?

[Kaisos Erranon]

Then who is doing the writing for the *counts* six other routes? (That's correct right? Alien, Time Traveler, God, Hijack, True, Final)

I said I'll be writing "most of the last three routes".

As of yet I only really need people for Alien, TT, and God/Divine/whatever.

A FLUFF WRITER WOULD ALSO BE NICE!


So, you want to put all extra stuff outside the (admittedly useless) extra button right? And having then appearing only after the first play, right?

EXTRA will be stuff like the stats in F/SN... character bios, unlocked story content, Director Koizumi stuff, that kind of thing.

Well, ren'py standard is limitless. The standard save screen have 8 pages with 10 slots for save, however, there is a "next page" button, allowing you to go the 9yh page, and then to 10th, 11th, 12th and ad infinitum. So, why put a limit? The save files are small, and they only occup space if you use them, so, don't matter if the limit is 50 or 500, if you have 3 save files, then this is the only amount of space is being used.

Because you can't code infinite things? :heh:

Do we already have the other writers? Jintor is writing Alien, but and the rest? Also, you may not being ewriting the other routes, but I imagine you are going to revise, right? If only to make the game more consistent.

Of course I'll be going over/editing stuff. :heh:

I am just not writing the whole game by myself. Jesus Christ.

About the credits, I believe it would be nice putting the most regular members/people-who-don't-actually-do-stuff-but-do-good-critics in a "speciall thanks", along with a line "and to all who frequent the Genderbend Thread in Anime Suki Fórum".

Good idea, I was planning on doing just that, yeah.


I remember you saying you are not doing Time-Travel because the route is too awesome and you don't believe in yourself... So, I guess you could do some bad end?

I think he needs to believe in him who believes in you who believes in himself who believes in me who believes in her.

Wait.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Would you mind stating who is who in that? The "you" is Heatth and the "me" is obviously you, but... :heh:

[besieger]

EXTRA will be stuff like the stats in F/SN... character bios, unlocked story content, Director Koizumi stuff, that kind of thing.

Awesome. Can I assume they come with ranks too?

Because you can't code infinite things? :heh:

You CAN, and it's actually not hard. Heatth will learn this soon, it's called infinite recursion and infinite loops. Both of them are something we try to avoid.

For those who are familiar with C++, try running this code:
while(){
fork();
}

:heh:

Of course I'll be going over/editing stuff. :heh:

I'd serve on the editing staff, but piloting is a real brain bleach requiring you to memorize A(IR) LAWZ.

I think he needs to believe in him who believes in you who believes in himself who believes in me who believes in her.

Wait.

No, NO TTGL references. Next one will get a stabbing from me.

[Iaevuous]

I think he needs to believe in him who believes in you who believes in himself who believes in me who believes in her.

Wait.

Kaisos thinks that Kogetsu needs to believe in Kogetsu himself who believes in believes in Heatth who believes in Heatth himself who believes in Kaisos who believes in...

Wait.

Who is "her"?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Kyonko? :p

[Iaevuous]

That's who my mind leapt to at first, but then I thought of the other candidates...

[luap1138]

Perhaps Midori?

[Kaisos Erranon]

Awesome. Can I assume they come with ranks too?

What, like the servant ranks? :heh: No, there are no ranks. Maybe stats as a joke, but no ranks. Those are stupidly arbitrary anyway.

Hmm, stats.

Well, Kyonko's EVA would be off the charts, for starters... probably have above-average STR for a female character, but little else besides those...

You CAN, and it's actually not hard. Heatth will learn this soon, it's called infinite recursion and infinite loops. Both of them are something we try to avoid.

Fair enough, I don't remember much from my coding classes.... but I don't see how you'd feasibly code infinite save slots. Feasibly.


No, NO TTGL references. Next one will get a stabbing from me.

Why? It's, like, the best original anime ever.

[besieger]

Why? It's, like, the best original anime ever.

It's just a Go Nagai anime without Go Nagai directing it.

[bhl88]

Gasp! I'm.....
NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH!? :sad:

Forgotton already? Tears.

lol I forgot about you guys sorry XD (would it be alright if you are one of the Radical 3? Aside from binjovi :heh:)

But Kogetsu did say:

You're supporting cast. Given how the series works, you should be glad you even have a name. :p

or I think he was joking XD

That's who my mind leapt to at first, but then I thought of the other candidates...

I thought the "her" was Itsuko XD or Tsuruya-san

[Kaisos Erranon]

That's who my mind leapt to at first, but then I thought of the other candidates...

You guys are just over-analyzing my rambling, you realize... :heh:

It's just a Go Nagai anime without Go Nagai directing it.

No, it's a tribute to the history of mecha anime. And it reintroduced a lot of old concepts to newer fans. Like Kamina's character type, which you don't goddamn see in anime nowadays, except in Mainstream Shounen Crap.

I loved it for its manliness, over-the-top-ness, and ballsiness. (It killed off major characters, both of which were character types that really don't tend to die easily...)

I loved it. :p

[swtrooper42]

No, NO TTGL references. Next one will get a stabbing from me.
Why? It's, like, the best original anime ever.
Now we need a Haruki with his shirt off shouting "Mine is the drill that will pierce the heavens!"
His spiral power would be off the charts.

Incidentally, I've always visualized a tiger dojo-esque corner after the bad ends led by none other than Taniguchi, Kunikida, and the occasional guest star since I'm doubting they get much screentime (and it always falls to the minor characters to do these things). Use it to shed some insight, make some jokes, and sometimes laugh at the choices of the protagonist (Kyon).

[Iaevuous]

Incidentally, I've always visualized a tiger dojo-esque corner after the bad ends led by none other than Kunikida, Taniguchi, and the occasional guest star. Use it to shed some insight, make some jokes, and sometimes laugh at the choices of the protagonist (Kyon).

I vaguely recall some discussion about fourth-wall breaking bad ends. I think that it involved the adult Mikuru and the Time Traveller's agency the last time it came up. Something along the lines of "Silly player. Kyon would never hang out with Taniguchi if he had anything else to do."

[Kaisos Erranon]

Incidentally, I've always visualized a tiger dojo-esque corner after the bad ends led by none other than Taniguchi, Kunikida, and the occasional guest star since I'm doubting they get much screentime (and it always falls to the minor characters to do these things). Use it to shed some insight, make some jokes, and sometimes laugh at the choices of the protagonist (Kyon).

I was going to give that to the SCPs, actually... It's a good role for them.

[swtrooper42]

I vaguely recall some discussion about fourth-wall breaking bad ends. I think that it involved the adult Mikuru and the Time Traveller's agency the last time it came up. Something along the lines of "Silly player. Kyon would never hang out with Taniguchi if he had anything else to do."
I remember that. That was all the way back at the beginning. Even before the project was "officially" started I think.

I was going to give that to the SCPs, actually... It's a good role for them.
Really? I never really thought the SCPs would have any screentime at all (other than that cameo). Considering that it's September and female SCP doesn't even show up.

[bhl88]

Now we need a Haruki with his shirt off shouting "Mine is the drill that will pierce the heavens!"
His spiral power would be off the charts.

Incidentally, I've always visualized a tiger dojo-esque corner after the bad ends led by none other than Taniguchi, Kunikida, and the occasional guest star since I'm doubting they get much screentime (and it always falls to the minor characters to do these things). Use it to shed some insight, make some jokes, and sometimes laugh at the choices of the protagonist (Kyon).

Computer Club President maybe (but he'll get more screentime in the future as Haruhi's slave or something).... or the leaders who created the game...

Taniguchi: So Binjovi, who created Midori?
Binjovi: Kaisos did.

or something like that

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Really? I never really thought the SCP would have any screentime at all (other than that cameo). Considering that it's September and female SCP doesn't even show up.

They're awesome, that's enough reason to include them for that purpose.

[Heatth]

A FLUFF WRITER WOULD ALSO BE NICE!

By fluff writer you mean someone to write useless small things, like the small scene variations I suggested in Day5? That would be awesome.

Speaking on that, wouldn't be a good idea having a recruting post where you/Danchou post every slot is needed to be fulfilled? Then we can link it from the first post and made a sig (whith maybe that "Haruki wants you" amage) linking to it.

EXTRA will be stuff like the stats in F/SN... character bios, unlocked story content, Director Koizumi stuff, that kind of thing.

I actually totally missed that EXTRA in your post. :heh: So, I guess I understood how it should be. I will work on it.

Because you can't code infinite things? :heh:You CAN, and it's actually not hard. Heatth will learn this soon, it's called infinite recursion and infinite loops. Both of them are something we try to avoid.

For those who are familiar with C++, try running this code:
while(){
fork();
}

:heh:

Eh, this don't matter. It is already codded. It is a standard feature. Every Ren'py made game has it by default.

Would you mind stating who is who in that? The "you" is Heatth and the "me" is obviously you, but... :heh:

I believe both "him" and "her" are you. It is your fault, you know. :p

Incidentally, I've always visualized a tiger dojo-esque corner after the bad ends led by none other than Taniguchi, Kunikida, and the occasional guest star since I'm doubting they get much screentime (and it always falls to the minor characters to do these things). Use it to shed some insight, make some jokes, and sometimes laugh at the choices of the protagonist (Kyon).

I believe Danchou has other ideas... But that would also be awesome.

PP:
I was going to give that to the SCPs, actually... It's a good role for them.

That would be funny too. But I believe hearing Danchou saying something different. My memory is not that good, tough, so I might be mistake.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Really? I never really thought the SCP would have any screentime at all (other than that cameo). Considering that it's September and female SCP doesn't even show up.

I had considered the Anti-SOS too, but I'll save them for another game. :p

The SCPs work for this because of their dual personalities and also because I see Takehito Koyasu voicing male SCP... and they're incredibly awesome.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I believe both "him" and "her" are you.

So... wait... I am he... and she is me... and... uh... goo goo goo joob? :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

By fluff writer you mean someone to write useless small things, like the small scene variations I suggested in Day5? That would be awesome.

Yeah, but I was mostly referring to romantic fluff though... and I'm not that great at that. :heh:

Speaking on that, wouldn't be a good idea having a recruting post where you/Danchou post every slot is needed to be fulfilled? Then we can link it from the first post and made a sig (whith maybe that "Haruki wants you" amage) linking to it.

This is a good idea. We should do that sometime.

So... wait... I am he... and she is me... and... uh... goo goo goo joob? :heh:

ANIMA! FEEL MY PAIN!

[Heatth]

Yeah, but I was mostly referring to romantic fluff though... and I'm not that great at that. :heh:

Ah. Well, this is a problem isn't it? :heh: I mean, it is a date sim an all...

Anyway, I would like to repeat my suggestion then: having a variation of tsuko's and Kyonko's scene in Day5, for when you don't fulfill, or just partially fulfill, the requeriments for the full scene. Just for the sake of consistence, it is not like Itsuko give up going to store just because Kyon didn't called Itsuki early in that day. Your reason for don't accepting was it would be too much work to you (which is true, given what you already do), however, it wouldn't be a problem if another person do right?

This is a good idea. We should do that sometime.

How about now? :p We could begin by listing what we are needing. Meanly people image editor, also some music editors. A fluff writer and route writer (tought I believe we already have some writers right? They were just not assigned to a job, yet)

So... wait... I am he... and she is me... and... uh... goo goo goo joob? :heh:

As I said, it is all your fault. :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

Ah. Well, this is a problem isn't it? :heh: I mean, it is a date sim an all...

Only on Day 6 and some parts of Divine and CoOp. :p

I'd like some in Alien, too, but Danchou is having enough trouble writing that outline as it is. :heh:

Just for the sake of consistence, it is not like Itsuko give up going to store just because Kyon didn't called Itsuki early in that day.

Butterfly. Shut up.

Other VNs do stuff like this all the time and get away with it. Why do we always need to fill plot holes with fucking concrete?

How about now? :p We could begin by listing what we are needing. Meanly people image editor, also some music editors. A fluff writer and route writer (tought I believe we already have some writers right? They were just not assigned to a job, yet)

Well, if we want to get that demo out before the end of next year we'll need:

-More artists
-Some bloody composers

As for the main game itself, we'll need:

-Two or three more writers, one of which can do fluff, or:
-Someone assigned entirely to do fluff.

[swtrooper42]

I had considered the Anti-SOS too, but I'll save them for another game. :p

The SCPs work for this because of their dual personalities and also because I see Takehito Koyasu voicing male SCP... and they're incredibly awesome.

Which role for Takehito Koyasu are you referring to?

Butterfly. Shut up.

Other VNs do stuff like this all the time and get away with it. Why do we always need to fill plot holes with fucking concrete?
Because they're plot holes?:heh:

But who knows. Maybe the conversation with Itsuki goes longer if you met Itsuko and that enables him to meet her (It's all about timing people!). Maybe if Kyon never met Itsuko he wouldn't notice her in the store. Maybe Kyon's just zoned out (That is apparently his default mode if something interesting isn't happening). The list goes on.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Which role for Takehito Koyasu are you referring to?

Well, not one of his sillier ones... not Excalibur or Sakuraba, for example.

I guess a voice more like the one he does for, uh... actually I can't recall him in a serious role.

Karian Loss? :heh:


But who knows. Maybe the conversation with Itsuki goes longer if you met Itsuko and that enables him to meet her (It's all about timing people!). Maybe if Kyon never met Itsuko he wouldn't notice her in the store. Maybe Kyon's just zoned out (That is apparently his default mode if something interesting isn't happening). The list goes on.

Like I said. Butterfly.

[swtrooper42]

I've always viewed the SCP as a more sleazy (when off duty) Kyoya Ootori (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouran_High_School_Host_Club_characters#Kyo ya_Ootori).
(Man I'm loving parenthesis tonight!)

[scify]

Before I get properly caught up on the two new pages that just sprang up when I wasn't looking, I'd like to say that Jintor is a far more important editor then I am. I'm just doing it because he's been busy recently. Notice how many of the entries he's done versus how many I've done.

[Heatth]

Only on Day 6 and some parts of Divine and CoOp. :p

I'd like some in Alien, too, but Danchou is having enough trouble writing that outline as it is. :heh:

How it can be Alien without romance? I is Yuki, danmit! It don't really need to be a romance, but it still need to be somewhat romantic. Also, I was under the impression all girl routes would have some romance.

Butterfly. Shut up.

Other VNs do stuff like this all the time and get away with it. Why do we always need to fill plot holes with fucking concrete?

Because it make the game better? I would lie to see some "fail" scenes. Like talking with Kyonko in that day, but don't leading to her route.

Anyway, you have played more VN then I, however, I was impressed how F/SN was consistent with that. I mean, there are three completelly different routes defined by a small change in the 3th day. However, the game was clear enough how that small change effect all the story.

I need to back to playing Clannad (I have to redownload it, tough), but I have not seen any inconcistence in there. And I am the type who sae before all choices and test every one of then.

Well, if we want to get that demo out before the end of next year we'll need:

-More artists
-Some bloody composers

As for the main game itself, we'll need:

-Two or three more writers, one of which can do fluff, or:
-Someone assigned entirely to do fluff.

There is a lot of people in the social group who are doing nothing yet. I tought they were writers. At last I know some of then are (and I know otai is not one, but give many awesome ideas anyway)

I had considered the Anti-SOS too, but I'll save them for another game. :p

The SCPs work for this because of their dual personalities and also because I see Takehito Koyasu voicing male SCP... and they're incredibly awesome.

Another game? Think low Kaisos! :heh: I would franckly preffer the anti-SOS. However, Taniguchi and Kunikida sound good too. I don't like the SCP as the only ones, tough. Maybe we can have all three? Actally, we can use it to show some useless characters. How about Sakanaka? :p Or Tamaru siblings.

PP:
But who knows. Maybe the conversation with Itsuki goes longer if you met Itsuko and that enables him to meet her (It's all about timing people!). Maybe if Kyon never met Itsuko he wouldn't notice her in the store. Maybe Kyon's just zoned out (That is apparently his default mode if something interesting isn't happening). The list goes on.

That. This is some useless things I would like to see. I mean, if Kyon didn't met Itsuko, then give a small note he reconised the "pretty girl" from Day4, but didn't talk to her. If he had met her but haven't called Itsuki, then a "failed" scene, with him not being able to make a good conversation.

I don't want to over carry Kaisos, so I would not ask to him to do that kind of useless stuff. However, if we have someone else to do it, it would be cool.

[Kaisos Erranon]

How it can be Alien without romance? I is Yuki, danmit! It don't really need to be a romance, but it still need to be somewhat romantic. Also, I was under the impression all girl routes would have some romance.

Romance but not fluff. You don't go on dates or have Fluff Days in TT or Esper.

Anyway, you have played more VN then I, however, I was impressed how F/SN was consistent with that.

Huh?

F/SN has so many plotholes you could take one step forward and never stop falling. :heh: It's a great game, but man is it inconsistent with a lot of pretty important stuff.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

How it can be Alien without romance? I is Yuki, danmit! It don't really need to be a romance, but it still need to be somewhat romantic. Also, I was under the impression all girl routes would have some romance.

Alien route is shonen. You can probably count the number of shonen serieses with actual romance in them on one hand. :heh:

[Heatth]

Romance but not fluff. You don't go on dates or have Fluff Days in TT or Esper.

Ahn, ok. What is fluff again? :heh:

Huh?

F/SN has so many plotholes you could take one step forward and never stop falling. :heh: It's a great game, but man is it inconsistent with a lot of pretty important stuff.

I read it a lot, but most exemple I saw were wrong. I don't remember if every Bad End make sense, however, specifically Day3, were the routes branch (when the only time you choices actually matter), is very consistent:

If you stop Saber from injuring Archer, Rin part with Shirou early, making Illya attaching in a unfavorable place, making Saber and Archer wining Berseker, don't making Rin and Shirou ally, allowing Archer to plot everything...

If you are nice to Sakura, she tries a bit more, making... well, everything happen.

I really don't see as many plot holes as most say.

PP:
Alien route is shonen. You can probably count the number of shonen serieses with actual romance in them on one hand. :heh:

Do comedy romance count? Many are shone, specially after Love Hina. Anyway, it is still Ngato's route. In canon the only girl who surpass her in "romance" is Haruhi. (don't counting the lusting lines Kyon thinks about Mikuru). It might not be the focus, but, it shuld be there anyway.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Ahn, ok. What is fluff again? :heh:

""Warm And Fuzzy Feeling". A Fanfic whose sole purpose for existence is to make the reader go "Awwww! That's so sweet!" at regular intervals and/or at the end. Frequently labeled as Fluff. Mostly made and read by female audiences or male audiences who make sure no one is watching behind their back. "

*e* Also... yeah, "Nagato stories end poorly." Don't make it worse for her, damn it. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

*e* Also... yeah, "Nagato stories end poorly." Don't make it worse for her, damn it. :heh:

This philosophy will extend to our game as well.

Also, we're going to make her smile. Once. Probably right before the bad things start happening to her.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Jerks. :heh:

[Heatth]

""Warm And Fuzzy Feeling". A Fanfic whose sole purpose for existence is to make the reader go "Awwww! That's so sweet!" at regular intervals and/or at the end. Frequently labeled as Fluff. Mostly made and read by female audiences or male audiences who make sure no one is watching behind their back."

Aaaah, really? I get it totally wrong then. :heh: Errr, don't fluff have a completelly different meaning in RPG jargon? As background information that has no use for rules?

This philosophy will extend to our game as well.

Also, we're going to make her smile. Once. Probably right before the bad things start happening to her.

Good, I guess. Poor Yuki. Anyway, could we have a good end for her, please? Actually, could we have a good end for everyone? Even if it is ambiguously happy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BittersweetEnding)? Maybe so incredebly hidden no sane man would find (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuideDangIt)? Or maybe impossible to get in the first play?

I like a bit of despair, but no light in the end of tunnel is... bad. :heh:

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Just remember that there's a high probability that the light at the end of the tunnel is a train coming in your direction.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Good, I guess. Poor Yuki. Anyway, could we have a good end for her, please? Actually, could we have a good end for everyone?

Uhhhhh.

...FINAL?

[besieger]

Aaaah, really? I get it totally wrong then. :heh: Errr, don't fluff have a completelly different meaning in RPG jargon? As background information that has no use for rules?



Good, I guess. Poor Yuki. Anyway, could we have a good end for her, please? Actually, could we have a good end for everyone? Even if it is ambiguously happy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BittersweetEnding)? Maybe so incredebly hidden no sane man would find (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GuideDangIt)? Or maybe impossible to get in the first play?

I like a bit of despair, but no light in the end of tunnel is... bad. :heh:

Two types of fluff, Heatth. The first type is exactly what you described. The second type is the one that was in reply to you.

We can't have good end for our charas because Kaisos is a jerk. A Jerkass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Jerkass). Also he's Neutral Evil (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralEvil).

[Kaisos Erranon]

We can't have good end for our charas because Kaisos is a jerk. A Jerkass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Jerkass). Also he's Neutral Evil (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeutralEvil).

I am not! :heh:

It's just that characters who suffer are far, far more interesting than characters who are happy. The latter is comedy, and while we do have that, that's not really what this VN is supposed to be about.

[besieger]

So what part of making our heroine suffer isn't neutral evil?

[Kaisos Erranon]

So what part of making our heroine suffer isn't neutral evil?

She's a character, not a person, and I don't do it with malicious intent so much as the need to write a decent story?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

He doesn't do it out of maliciousness.

*e* Ack! ninja'd. :heh:

[besieger]

RIGHT... No malicious intent indeed.

[Heatth]

Uhhhhh.

...FINAL?

It don't count. Happy end for the girl, not for the story. Like the scenario I mentioned some pages ago (just after the cute Kyonko/Itsuko scene), with a somewhat happy end for Itsuko, with her living in the original world with Kyonko as her sister (and Kyon as her boyfriend(?)).

Some nice ends with "then, sucky things happen, but in the end they live happy after ever, kinda.

Using F/SN as exemple, the Fate True End, with Saber going back, but everything else turning out good (exept not, but you don't know that at time). Or even Heaven's Feel True End.

In Clannad, the hypothetical end where Nagisa dies but Ushio lives. (do it actually happen in the game? I was hoping this would be the end of the anime)

Two types of fluff, Heatth. The first type is exactly what you described. The second type is the one that was in reply to you.

So I wasn't all wrong then? Good to know.

[Kaisos Erranon]

It don't count. Happy end for the girl, not for the story. Like scenario I mentioned some pages ago (just after the cute Kyonko/Itsuko scene), with a somewhat happy end for Itsuko, with her living in the original world with Kyonko as her sister (and Kyon as her boyfriend(?)).

Some nice ends with "then, sucky things happen, but in the end they live happy after ever, kinda.

Using F/SN as exemple, the Fate True End, with Saber going back, but everything else turning out good (exept not, but you don't know that at time). Or even Heaven's Feel True End.

Hmm.

To be honest, the default Not-Enough-Flags Bad End is pretty much like this.

Then someone gets bored. And everything goes to hell.

The Esper Subroute is kind of happy... but it really solves nothing...

So the answer is "no", I guess. :heh:

[Heatth]

Hmm.

To be honest, the default Not-Enough-Flags Bad End is pretty much like this.

Then someone gets bored. And everything goes to hell.

So the answer is "no", I guess. :heh:

I kinda know that already. That is why I am asking some more things like this:

The Esper Subroute is kind of happy... but it really solves nothing...

It is ask too much? :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

It is ask too much? :p

Well. Itsuko gets a happy ending in the main Esper route. Just that Kyon doesn't at all.

Um. I guess Mikuru gets a relatively happy ending in the TT subroute. I think she's going to suicide there though. ...At least she dies happy!

Yuki, however... "Nagato stories always end poorly". :p It's the truth. Yuki is an extremely tragic character and that's how we should play her.

Hmm. I think the Divine route ends pretty damn happily for the original SOS.

So it's not all bad endings. Just there is no one single ending where EVERYONE is happy, aside from FINAL, but you said that didn't count.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

And if I had my way and actually got around to doing anything, what I'd write would result in everyone who survives being miserable, and probably the dismantling of the SOS Brigade... provided there's anyone left aside from Kyon...

I'm a good person, honest! Okay, maybe not...

[Heatth]

Well. Itsuko gets a happy ending in the main Esper route. Just that Kyon doesn't at all.

Um. I guess Mikuru gets a relatively happy ending in the TT subroute. I think she's going to suicide there though. ...At least she dies happy!

Yuki, however... "Nagato stories always end poorly". :p It's the truth. Yuki is an extremely tragic character and that's how we should play her.

Hmm. I think the Divine route ends pretty damn happily for the original SOS.

So it's not all bad endings. Just there is no one single ending where EVERYONE is happy, aside from FINAL, but you said that didn't count.

Oh, don't minsunderstand me. I am not asking for some boring end with everyone happy. :p As I said, a happy end to the girls. In which girl route, they are the only character we care anyway, so the other can be dammed. :)

Ah, and Nagato's story don't end that badly. I mean, Kyon still likes her, in some way. But I agree she is really tragic, tough. While I would like to see her happy for ever with Kyon, I understand what you mean.

Ah, if I understood well, I will love Divine route... Will be a Bad End with exactly the oposite? :p

PP:
And if I had my way and actually got around to doing anything, what I'd write would result in everyone who survives being miserable, and probably the dismantling of the SOS Brigade... provided there's anyone left aside from Kyon...

I'm a good person, honest! Okay, maybe not...

So, you really should write that bad ends. :p

[vivify93]

Attention all. (Feel free to ignore this.)

We definitely need a Seitenkan-SOS version of this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fo2E3IqQGs) You need to turn on captions for subtitles.

Apologies if this is something generally considered nasty from a hentai or something; I'm not up-to-date on my Japanese memes. You may now return to talking about relevant things.

[Kaisos Erranon]

And if I had my way and actually got around to doing anything, what I'd write would result in everyone who survives being miserable, and probably the dismantling of the SOS Brigade... provided there's anyone left aside from Kyon...

I'm a good person, honest! Okay, maybe not...

That's pretty much the situation at the end of Esper, actually.


Apologies if this is something generally considered nasty from a hentai or something; I'm not up-to-date on my Japanese memes. You may now return to talking about relevant things.

It's a song about protein pills... :heh:

[Heatth]

That's pretty much the situation at the end of Esper, actually.

Cool.

Attention all. (Feel free to ignore this.)

We definitely need a Seitenkan version of this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fo2E3IqQGs) You need to turn on captions for subtitles.

Apologies if this is something generally considered nasty from a hentai or something; I'm not up-to-date on my Japanese memes. You may now return to talking about relevant things.

What the F--!? This was suppose to have any meaning at all?

[vivify93]

What the F--!? This was suppose to have any meaning at all?
Yes.

Haruki is totally the Warrior of Light in that video.

[Heatth]

Ah-- I tought you were saying weshould genderbend the characters. :heh:

[scify]

We definitely need a Seitenkan version of this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fo2E3IqQGs) You need to turn on captions for subtitles.

I… what? What is this? I don’t even…

[vivify93]

Ah-- I tought you were saying weshould genderbend the characters. :heh:
oh. Well, thanks for that. I clarified; now it says "Seitenkan-SOS". Maybe it should say "SOS-Seitenkan", but people will get my drift.

[otai]

Speaking of a happy Yuki, anybody read the Disapperance spin-off, the Vanishing of Nagato Yuki-chan? I got through a few pages, then I got scared to go through the rest. Nagato as a shoujo heroine just doesn't compute... the sadistic gamer otaku of Haruhi-chan was much easier on the brain. :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

Speaking of a happy Yuki, anybody read the Disapperance spin-off, the Vanishing of Nagato Yuki-chan? I got through a few pages, then I got scared to go through the rest. Nagato as a shoujo heroine just doesn't compute... the sadistic gamer otaku of Haruhi-chan was much easier on the brain. :p

At the moment I am arguing for a Disappearance-inspired mindfuck sequence in the Alien Route....

Every route needs some kind of mindfuck sequence... <_<

[Archangel Roy]

At the moment I am arguing for a Disappearance-inspired mindfuck sequence in the Alien Route....

Every route needs some kind of mindfuck sequence... <_<

so very true, but it makes sense...in a way xD

[otai]

At the moment I am arguing for a Disappearance-inspired mindfuck sequence in the Alien Route....

Every route needs some kind of mindfuck sequence... <_<

Since Kyon's a homophobe, how about a hallucination of the love story with a shy, introverted Yuuki. :heh:

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Now why would you go and do that to poor Yuuki? :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

Since Kyon's a homophobe, how about a hallucination of the love story with a shy, introverted Yuuki. :heh:

Well, I do need to offer manservice somehow... :heh:

[Joe4evr]

I am not! :heh:To which part were you objecting?

It's just that characters who suffer are far, far more interesting than characters who are happy. The latter is comedy, and while we do have that, that's not really what this VN is supposed to be about.So... to quote Evangeline, "Happy people are all the same, it's the sad people who are different." or something like that.

[Jintor]

Oh man

If I ever return to this I am going to get so depressed

Honestly I hate that kind of fiction

[dkellis]

So... to quote Evangeline, "Happy people are all the same, it's the sad people who are different." or something like that.

"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." - Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina (the first line in the novel)

[Heatth]

"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." - Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina (the first line in the novel)

Exactly. I believe it was even shown Eva reading that book. :heh:

PP:
Well, changing the subject for a while (and backing to the rewrites), Mitsuuru have been writen as way more confrontational then Mikuru, which is cool, as it fit very well to him. In most storys this wouldn't change to much from canon, as most Itsuki's theorys are told in private to Kyon (being Mikuru the most clueless character). However, in Sighs Itsuki call a reunion with everybody. In canon Yuki just ignored him and Mikuru stayed quiet, however, I suppose Mitsuuru wouldn't be stay silent. With who Kyonko would side then? And would Mitsuuru call a private discussion with Kyon latter with he already exposed his oppinion?

More important then that is how it would effect their relation latter. In the VN Mitsuuru has a big enmity with Itsuko. How it would be in the genderbended novels? Which storys would be effected? I wonder if Haruki would ever notice such hostility on his brigade and how he would react...

...Oh, lord. How are going the rewrite again? I remember someone saying it had writen something and send to Kaisos... how it this end? I also remember said person (whose nick I forgot because I have a goldfish memory) saying he didn't felt too confident to work on BLR... but most important parts were already writen by Kaisos (even if by another POV). Also, I believe dkellis is working on it right? (he said so, at last) Even if he is working for more then a year.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

More important then that is how it would effect their relation latter. In the VN Mitsuuru has a big enmity with Itsuko. How it would be in the genderbended novels? Which storys would be effected? I wonder if Haruki would ever notice such hostility on his brigade and how he would react...

Any animosity between Mitsuuru and Itsuko would not be on display in front of Haruki. After all, Haruki is supposed to believe Mitsuuru is completely effeminate, while Itsuko won't do anything to upset Haruki.

[vivify93]

Since Kyon's a homophobe, how about a hallucination of the love story with a shy, introverted Yuuki. :heh:
That's...

...

Why do I seem to like this idea more than HarukiXKyon?

OH RIGHT BECAUSE HARUKI'S SOCIAL SKILLS AND PERSONALITY SUCK LOLOLOLOL

[Heatth]

Any animosity between Mitsuuru and Itsuko would not be on display in front of Haruki. After all, Haruki is supposed to believe Mitsuuru is completely effeminate, while Itsuko won't do anything to upset Haruki.

Why is Haruki suppose to believe Mitsuuru is completely effeminate? I believe he thinks Mitsuuru is somewhat like that because Mitsuuru is. Mitsuuru probably cower more when near to Haruki because Haruki is bigger, stronger and more powerfull, not because he was ordered to. He might have ordered to obey him blindly (so don't upseting the uber-powerful beeing), but can't see why he needs to appear so weak.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

So he has a "project," of course.

[Heatth]

So he has a "project," of course.

Eeeeh, what? Project?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Making him manly... duh. :p

[Heatth]

Ah, so, Haruki would be proud if Mitsuuru demonstred some guts, for a change. :p My point is Mitsuuru might act more cowardly near to Haruki, but not by imposition. He acts like that because it is how he is.

[dragon4dudes]

I'm ALIVE, and not missed.....

ANYways...What happened in the last week that I was dead for?

And something slightly relevant, What is Mitsuuru? not looking for the time-traveler answer. Yeah, I can't think straight enough to ask decent questions anymore...

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Mitsuuru is an upperclassman that is usually forced into ridiculous outfits by Haruki.

[Heatth]

I'm ALIVE, and not missed.....

ANYways...What happened in the last week that I was dead for?

And something slightly relevant, What is Mitsuuru? not looking for the time-traveler answer. Yeah, I can't think straight enough to ask decent questions anymore...

Last week? Hmmm, We didn't do too much. Kaisos and I disscussed about Mitsuuru and Mikuru, begining here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2731648#post2731648). (this is older then a week, but the discussion extended a bit) scify posted two (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2736441&postcount=20870) edits (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2736456&postcount=20871). A wide new member (http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=102920) has appeared (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2741547&postcount=20875). We also discussed a bit about the game, including the menu (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745564&postcount=20900) and which job slots (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745770&postcount=20905) need to be filled (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745917&postcount=20927).

That is it, I guess. Nothing important.

Oh, Kaisos mentioned (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2744186&postcount=20890) he would resume work today. I don't know if he had made much pregress, as I have been bothering him on the msn. :p

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Last week? Hmmm, We didn't do too much. Kaisos and I disscussed about Mitsuuru and Mikuru, begining here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2731648#post2731648). (this is older then a week, but the discussion extended a bit) scify posted two (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2736441&postcount=20870) edits (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2736456&postcount=20871). A wide new member (http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=102920) has appeared (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2741547&postcount=20875). We also discussed a bit about the game, including the menu (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745564&postcount=20900) and which job slots (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745770&postcount=20905) need to be filled (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2745917&postcount=20927).

That is it, I guess. Nothing important.

Oh, Kaisos mentioned (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2744186&postcount=20890) he would resume work today. I don't know if he had made much pregress, as I have been bothering him on the msn. :p

Is it hard to talk in links like that? :p

[Heatth]

It is. :heh: You could see, with the quote, how big the post appeared to be. No to mention the time I spend looking for the right posts. :p

[bhl88]

It is. :heh: You could see, with the quote, how big the post appeared to be. No to mention the time I spend looking for the right posts. :p

http://ragnaboards.levelupgames.ph/style_emoticons/default/heh.gif lol you must have a lot of free time on your hands XD http://ragnaboards.levelupgames.ph/style_emoticons/default/heh.gif

[GDB]

Been gone a while, but noticed that options were discussed a few pages back. Does the template being used support speedtext for later playthroughs?

[Heatth]

Been gone a while, but noticed that options were discussed a few pages back. Does the template being used support speedtext for later playthroughs?

As defaut Ren'py made you be able to pass any seen text fastly. Don't need even be in a leter play, if you back in a save you can already do that. Also, more important, you can totaly skip any scene you have aready seen, like in F/SN.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

We can't have that, can we? People will skip over the fun parts... Of course, I have a different idea of what the "fun parts" are...

[Heatth]

People can only skip if they have already seen the scene.

This game requires you to play the first week many times to fnish it (at last 11 times, if I count correctly). Forcing people to see it every time is jsut annoying.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... You don't need to get the Bad Ends, do you? :heh:

[Heatth]

I was counting the subroutes, not the Bad Ends. :p

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Ah, okay. :heh:

[HikariNiwa]

We can't have that, can we? People will skip over the fun parts... Of course, I have a different idea of what the "fun parts" are...

As do I.

Subsequent playthroughs should have altered green text in the beginning that can't be skipped.

[Kaisos Erranon]

As do I.

Subsequent playthroughs should have altered green text in the beginning that can't be skipped.

I guess I can have her refer to herself as "Skippy the Unskippable Kangaroo", but...

[HikariNiwa]

I guess I can have her refer to herself as "Skippy the Unskippable Kangaroo", but...

That's a rather interesting name.

[Heatth]

I guess I can have her refer to herself as "Skippy the Unskippable Kangaroo", but...

...In portuguese the word for "skip" is the same for "jump". Which make that phrase even more amazing to me.:heh:

[Joe4evr]

...In portuguese the word for "skip" is the same for "jump". Which make that phrase even more amazing to me.:heh:It's the same in English.:heh:

[Heatth]

You can use "skip" as jump? Or just "jump" as "skip"? I don't know in either way. ^^;

However, in portuguese they are the same word.

(useless clarification. There are at last two words to jump (as there are some other similar in english: hop and leap), but the most common ("pular") is both "jump" and "skip". Also, it is not all "skip", "skip" in "skip a commitment" is another word.)

[Joe4evr]

You can use "skip" as jump? Or just "jump" as "skip"? I don't know in either way. ^^;

However, in portuguese they are the same word.Ah, no, I meant you can use "skip" as "jump", their synonymous like that, instead of your homonymous case.

[Heatth]

Ah, no, I meant you can use "skip" as "jump", their synonymous like that, instead of your homonymous case.

Oh, well, I didn't know that. So my comment was pointless, as "skip" and "kangaroo" was suppose to be a bad pun, even in english. :heh:

[Iaevuous]

I guess I can have her refer to herself as "Skippy the Unskippable Kangaroo", but...

It evokes in me images of peanut butter.

ED: Is that a reference to Skippy the Bush Kangaroo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo)?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Well that's certainly an unusual take on it. :heh:

*e* That would be directed to the peanut butter thing...