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Skyfall
2008-03-28, 08:09
Welcome to Shakugan no Shana - Favorite Character(s) Poll - the place where you can express all of your love towards your favorite Nanoha Strikers characters.

You can vote for multiple characters all at once in this poll. Your vote is final once you click on the "vote now" tab. You won't be able to comeback and vote a second time for another character. Choose wisely!
If you are selecting "Other" among your choices, please don't forget to name the character(s) you are referring to.

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Deathscyther
2008-03-28, 08:58
Hmm, this season didn't change my view on the characters drastically, but there were some changes.

Shana: My all-time favourite anime girl. I liked her more in season 1, but she's still awesome and kawaii in my eyes. I missed her triple urusai a lot in this season, as well as her aggressive personaliy sometimes (This is probably because of the many slice of life episodes this season) But her new cute outfits and her protectiveness of Yuji made up for it:)

She still gets a 10/10 from me.

Yuji: I didn't like him too much in season 1, but I like him quite a lot now. He isn't the helpless boy who can only whine no more. He learned to fight and has made his resolve to protect the village. He did show his weak side in the beginning of the season, but in the second half of the season he turned into a fine male lead. I didn't like that he was too indecisive in the love area though.

He gets a 8/10 from me.

Wilhelmina: I already liked her in season one, but I like her even more now. She really grew on me this season. She's stronger than she looks and her personality is really cute sometimes. Trying to act like her mother for instance. Combine that with the dry Tiamat...awesome

She gets a 8/10 from me.

Hecate: Most of her was anime original, but I still liked her. She stays pretty cute. She changed a lot from season 1 in some aspects though. Her new fighting abilities were nice and I liked that she had trouble with her new 'emotions' sometimes. They did 'overuse' her this season imo though.

She gets a 7/10 from me.

Dantalion and Domino: Don't ask...I just like the weirdos XD;

They get a 6.5/10 from me.

Skyfall
2008-03-28, 09:58
^ I don't really see how Hecate is overused. I doubt her screentime amounts to even 10 minutes through the whole season. She barely had any appearances aside from her attack on Yuji to seal silver again and the very last episode.

If i were to say which character is overused, it has got to be Kazumi. She didn't really have a purpose and the writers didn't really seem to know what she is supposed to do either. Her involvement in the story lacks any form of creativity and she is very limited in her actions, which would amount to thinking one thought: "i want to stand in the same place as Sakai-kun and Shana-chan".

Her role in season 1 was much more defined and her presence more meaningful. But it seems that after fulfilling her role as Shana's rival in season 1, now it seems the writers simply had ran out of ideas what to do with her, thus she ends up as presence with barely any purpose.

As for my favorites ... i am not really sure i have one :heh: Yes, i have some characters i would prefer over others, but i don't really like any of them to the extent i would want to vote for them on the poll and say "yes, this is a charater i like from SnS".

Kristen
2008-03-28, 11:21
Yoshida Kazumi - Alright, you all knew it was coming. Kazumi, to me, is the character that makes this anime worth watching. She is sweet, kind, cute, and overall a completely normal girl. Her love for Yuji is pure, and she is just so completely selfless. If this series was renamed "The Devient World" with Kazumi emerging as the late heroine, it would be a complete work of art. Yuji should have chose her. :(
Hecate - Maybe it's just Noto Mamiko or something, but Hecate by far has the most character development of anyone in the series, in my opinion. It's interesting to watch her. Like, she was quietly evil in season one, but this season, from the bird scene and the end of twenty four, it shows that there is more to her than meets the eye. She's still nowhere near Kazumi, but she gets into my favorites.
Seeking Researcher - Honestly, there's too much good about him to pass him up. Namely, when he appears and is in action, the storyline moves with such a quick pace. Though he is impossible to time, since he never ends his phrases...


There are no notable mentions for this list.

FiREwing
2008-03-28, 11:35
1) Shana : She was the reason I got into Shakugan no Shana. No Shana = no show IMO. And I love her melon bread love. :) +10 for Shana since shes voiced by Rie Kugimiya too. I may just be a closet lolicon though...

2) Alastor : I love him in the Shana-tan Specials.

3) Konoe Fumina : Even though the episodes she were in sucked hard I still like her. It may just be Noto Mamiko like ChrissieXD said.

All the other characters are likeable just not my favorites, though sometimes I wanted to smack my head repeatedly into a wall at Yuji's density at the 2 girl's feelings. If I hated 1 of them I would fast forward to the next scene in 0.001 seconds.

serenade_beta
2008-03-28, 12:50
Kazumi - the main link in the series to the normal world, sweet, kind...... I'm saying the same things as ChrissieXD. :heh:
Personally, I think there was way too much hate and death posts at her...

Fumina - voted for her because of everything she is, except the Hecate deletes her part

Others, AKA Dantalion - crazy guy and fun to watch and listen to. :heh:

Crisano
2008-03-28, 15:56
There was no character that I hated in this series. However, I had to narrow down my vote to four people.

Kazumi Yoshida- Poor Kazumi, so many people dislike her; worse, hate her. I thought Kazumi was a great character, very nice, helpful, and cool at times. She was very brave, following her "feelings" and sticking with what she believes. Apparently, some people don't like how normal humans think aka "Yuji, I want to be with you". But, then again, I'm probably sticking words into people’s mouths, so ignore these, probably, false accusations.

Yuji Sakai- Surprisingly, there were problems with him, too. I still liked Yuji; he grew a lot in this season. He turned into quite a fighter, using the Bloodsucker and his sliver flame... thingy (I forgot). Yuji is awesome.

Margery Daw- She also grew more awesome this season. It was nice to see her a little more of her life, the whole Yuri and Annaberg episodes. Not to mention that she is so awesome and helpful in fights and in general. Basically, she is more awesome this season.

Fumina Konoe- Another controversy, I liked her. She was so "cute" and a competitor for Shana and Kazumi. Besides, she brought Shana and Kazumi more together.

"Honorable mention" goes to Wirhelmina Carmel, Shana, and Hecate.

nines
2008-03-28, 16:08
Alastor - Hes just plain out awsome lol

Shana - A strong little girl its kool she gets a 10/10 in my book. Only thing i didnt like about her and yoshida was the constant ill win ill win stuff goin on

Wilhelmina: She is kool very serious and very cute i liked her look when she was fighting sabrac and she didnt have the arpon over the top she looked really nice like that ^.^

Devard
2008-03-28, 16:57
Wilhelmina: She is kool very serious and very cute i liked her look when she was fighting sabrac and she didnt have the arpon over the top she looked really nice like that ^.^
I presume you meant "apron" here, but what scene are you talking about exactly?

rainbow_star
2008-03-28, 19:21
For me it's Shana-chan and Wilhelmina.
I just can't resist Loli and Maid XD

CapoExecutor
2008-03-28, 19:38
I must tip my hat off to the little people (Yuji, Shana, Kazumi, Konoe, and Hecate) due to having more depth in their character.

Of course, I'll assume that Konoe and Hecate are two sides of the same coin or being.

HayashiMugen
2008-03-28, 21:24
May sound stupid, REALLY stupid. I like girls with personality likes Shana's. Awkward..... >_>

Mai Kawasumi
2008-03-28, 21:52
Shana, Alastor, Wilhelmina, Pheles for me, and in "others", I vote for Dantalion and Domino :heh:

DOOOOOOOOOOOMINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

HayashiMugen
2008-03-28, 21:59
Shana, Alastor, Wilhelmina, Pheles for me, and in "others", I vote for Dantalion and Domino :heh:

DOOOOOOOOOOOMINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Hahaha who doesn't like DOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMIIIIIIINNOOOOOOOO!1!!? Dantilion has the most comedic relief in the whole series. May be obvious. But then again Shana's mind set is also a comedic role, which is cute.

Shana
2008-03-29, 00:22
Shana: Well, it's just obvious xD

Hecate: She didn't even get 10 minutes of screentime, but she was one of my favorite characters. I "evolutioned" a lot through the first and 2nd season.

Others - Ogata

minhtam1638
2008-03-29, 05:29
No-brainer, but I have to give a shout out to Yuji as well.

Xellos
2008-03-31, 09:52
Shana: Probably the biggest reason I watch the series.
Wilhelmina: There's a certain je ne sais quoi about her that does it for me. Maybe it's the combination of the taciturn nature, maid outfit, and quiet affection for Shana.

MercFH
2008-04-04, 16:49
Wilhelmina because I think she's just AWESOME
and Obviously Shana of course, because...i mean..it's SHANA
Hectate for being awesome too

BearShare
2008-04-04, 19:21
Shana is a given.

Other goes to Chigusa for being an awesome MILF.

BookOfMages
2008-04-04, 20:13
Shana: Bah! obviously! Shana is the first Tsundere I've ever liked, she got me into other Tsunderes, and she is one badass moe loli. <3 :heh: She's so cute, with her PURE love of Melon Pan, and the fact she's so innocent when it comes to "IRL" things. :heh:

Konoe Fumina: Auughh <333 [-Huggles her-] She was like the definition of Moe. Goddamn. I love the fact she reaches out to birds, it's so innocent, and omfg her in a witch costume shoots me back to Yuki Nagato and Tabitha, oh Konoe Fumina is oh so cute in that costume. :heh: I cried like so much on episode 15 when she went away, then a lot at the final episodes, MEMORIES OF KONOE FUMINA BURSTED INTO MY MIND. ;_____;

Hecate: Much character development, and like she's pretty with earrings. She is like so hardcore, her attacks are like holy shit awesome, but her expressions include: expressionless face, Angry Face, confused face, sad face, and orgasm face. I happen to enjoy all of them, especially the last one. :heh: but she has like little screentime in this season, much to my disappointment...

MercFH
2008-04-06, 07:06
Durp I forget about Margery...how could she be forgotten.
and her book.....crap...WHATS HIS NAME AHH I FORGET, but he's funny

Echoes
2008-04-06, 09:18
Shana. She's simply great. Shana is a large part of what makes this show what it is, and she's been my utter favorite since her first appearance.
Wilhelmina. Another favorite from the first season, her style and grace is unprecedented in the second season as well.
Pheles. I really liked Pheles. She was full of surprises and awesomeness from beginning to end. Plus I've got a thing for green hair.


Yuji gets an honorable mention, he's pretty awesome, but these ladies are still a step ahead of him.

ForgedGlory
2008-04-06, 10:31
holy crapsicles, Kazumi actually has more votes than Margery?

maymay
2008-04-06, 11:53
holy crapsicles, Kazumi actually has more votes than Margery?

*Dies inside*
I voted Margery and Wilhelmina.

lua thien
2008-04-06, 13:27
Konoe and Hecate: Both are the sides of a single coin but with different truths that define them respectively.

Bel Peol: Well, she didn't get much development but after seeing how large her rack is, she gets my vote.

Other: Sabrac, because he has more potential than he's letting on.

BookOfMages
2008-04-06, 15:33
holy crapsicles, Kazumi actually has more votes than Margery?
I'm more shocked she has more votes then Fumina, and Pheles. :twitch:

To each their own I guess. :heh:

SeedFreedom
2008-04-06, 17:30
Wish i had seen the whole anime before voting. Woulda given an extra vote to Hecate.

MY votes:
Shana: too cute
Kazumi: tries so hard
Wilhelmina: too sexy
Margery: really impressive character near the end.
Other: Oga(spelling is probably wrong)

LeaD36
2008-04-06, 18:43
voted : alastor and shana
alastor - he gives the show the often missed philosophical aspect, voice of reason, and some awesome move when he was let loose in S1
shana - no explanation needed lol
forgot : other - sabrac, awesome dude that´s all about fighting assassination and stuff

MercFH
2008-04-06, 19:02
Margery Pwns Kazumi i dont see how she has more votes.
i kinda feel bad for Margey.....she didn't get hardly any.
and Yes Wilhelmina is teh sekz
Hectate as decent amount. btw...about her, how old is she supposed to be. same age as Shana

Game8910
2008-04-06, 19:17
Its all about Shana, Yuji, and Hecate XD

MercFH
2008-04-07, 05:10
forgot to give a shoutout to alastor...cuz he's a pimp obviously

p0-
2008-04-07, 10:56
Kazumi: poor girl with bad luck =(
Hecate: the mysterious one

HayashiMugen
2008-04-09, 23:03
forgot to give a shoutout to alastor...cuz he's a pimp obviously

Hahah true. where would the story be with out him?

Liddo-kun
2008-04-10, 12:34
Voted:

1. Shana - must vote the red hot eternal loli :p
2. Konoe - feel sad for her -_-
3. Wilhelmina - can't describe I just like her
4. Margery - she got my vote for rescuing Kazumi at the end, much character develipment for Margery
5. Other = Sabrac - for being awesome

FlareKnight
2008-04-12, 01:54
Shana - Well have to give her the vote here. But really has been a favourite in this show the whole way. Shows a lot of strength combined with her cuteness. Just has a likable personality and swords+fire just works.

Wilhelmina - Honestly grew on me a lot more in this second season. Really showed up in the fight against Sabrac and just how much she cares for Shana was really nice.

Other - Sabrac was pretty cool. Guy was focused on his work and does a pretty good job.

anselfir
2008-04-13, 18:13
hecate and only hecate. the rest are boring/kiddy.

BlaCk jACk
2008-04-16, 23:50
Shana - k, pretty obvious choice. she has a great personality, tons of awesome action scenes. not to mention the episode where she asked "how do you make babies?" xDDD I LOLed for like... an hour.

Wilhelmina - her quiet demeanor, especially her combination with Tiamat is really great. added with the comedy she provides and her superb fighting skills, she actually might be my favorite character. also one of the best looking characters as well =D

Marcosius - RULES

HayashiTakara
2008-04-18, 07:14
Shana... cause she made me a lolicon... lol

Shadow Miko
2008-04-25, 05:34
Mare was my favorite. Why did she have to just be a villian-of-the-week? D:

Artemus
2008-05-08, 22:09
Is it me or do those percentages not add up to a hundred.

Xellos
2008-05-09, 15:19
The percentages are probably based off of total voters, not actual number of votes.

Aijou
2008-05-24, 10:57
I voted Shana, she is the reason for watching the show, and the opening/ending themes.
My top favorite characters in Shakugan no Shana:

1) Shana... same reason as other people...she is just UBER in all ways! She is the only non-annoying tsundre character i've seen in anime.
2) Alastor... Great voice, great mentor, never ceases to amaze me.
3) Wilhelmina... I hated her at first... but when I saw her caring attitude as a mother figure for Shana, it was just beautifull. My favorite episodes are when Wilhelmina fights Sabrac, too spectacular. Cold, but really nice, whit Tiamat around makes her even more special. Not to mention she is the most beautifull character in the show. ~De arimasu~ xD
4) Marcosius... just funny and wild.
5) Sabrac... coolest villain i've seen in years.

oompa loompa
2008-05-25, 06:07
1) ive developed a liking for hecate ever since the first season, shes my favorite character again.. shes probably had the most character development out of all the characters from shana, and even though she got very little screen time, its great to see that shes slowly but surely becoming the central figure of bal masque.

2) sabrac - the guy is awesome, talk about an epic battle.. thats one of the best anime fights ive seen in a long long time.

toniblab
2008-06-01, 19:48
no book to vote on?i like the book it always gets a hit!

haiz123321
2008-06-15, 01:51
Durp I forget about Margery...how could she be forgotten.
and her book.....crap...WHATS HIS NAME AHH I FORGET, but he's funny

The book is Fang of Destruction Marcossius or something like that.

Actually i kinda liked Yuji's parents since they were somesort like the "ideal" parents and stuff.

I voted for Yuji Shana and Pheles though XD

satoshi2oll
2008-06-21, 19:32
1. Yuji Sakai - I love his innocence, and I can relate to him in many ways. Being one of the main characters, he's developed a lot and I really like that special quality in him.

2. Wilhelmina Carmel - ~de arimasu. Enough said.

3. Hecate - I love how mysterious and unknown this character was the first time I saw her. I love that she's all blue and white.

Henchmen
2008-07-03, 21:43
Marcosious is awesome and he's not even on the poll. sadface. (voted for him in other) He always had some silly pet name to call Margery which I thought was funny! hmm ill be safe. go spoiler tag After Margery went berserk when she saw the silver fuzetsu Marcosious scolded her and showed his serious side. Good to see comic relief characters getting serious once in a while. It makes them more three dimensional I think

other votes


Shana - well duh

Margery Daw - Badass and fun!

Alastor - Our intreped narrator deserves an honorable mention! Extra points for being Shana's overbearing father :heh:

Dbano
2008-07-04, 07:18
Yuji Sakai- Well he doesn't have it in the first season but in the 2nd he was really a help to Shana. Anyway he seemed to be too innocent to notice the things that has been happening around him(Shana and Yoshida). It made him look a players but he doesn't even know it.

Shana-The character that made me watch the whole thing why wouldn't it be on the list. I like her personality and how she sees things.

Yoshida Kazumi-I disagree with others saying that Yoshida is a poor girl and has bad luck. In fact she isn't, Yuji chose her at the misagi festival rather than Shana(who cried a lot at the time) though knowing that stopping the Tomogara is much more important than

Another one is I think... The rainbow guy? the skeleton who trained Shana. Even though he only lasted for two episodes I think he is a really cool guy, I think his name was Merihim?

othera
2008-10-10, 03:21
Voted for :
Shana - She is so awsome, cute, funny(rarely though, like "how do you make babies" is the best ever line, ever in any anime.) and so on, when she summons alastor and is walking with yuji i felt so sad for her :/ Only thing i didn't like is she would not tell yuji she loved him. She is my all time favorite anime character.

Kazumi - I feel bad for her that yuji picked shana and that she was rejected by ike, she is a sweet girl who just wants to help, she is so awsome :p The part where she tells yuji he is a human is one of my fave parts of the anime.

Fumina Konoe - I felt sad when her existence was taken away by hecate, but i was kinda hoping it would make hecate fall in love with yuji or something.

Almost voted for:
Yuji: He is so powerful clueless at the same time, if he picked kazumi i would have given him a vote :P

Chigusa: Can you say MILF? :P

And i would of voted other to give a mention to(but didn't seeing as i voted for 3 people already)
The book, lol he is such a smartass(And i love the random stuff he and margery daw sais like when she goes beserk she just goes WHERE IS MY PIE)
And if they were in more eps i know i would of loved hirai and the rainbow guy(skeleton) and sabrac, epic battle of epicness, i mean seriously awsome :)

CuXe
2008-10-11, 01:37
OK I will go against the conventional here and say.... I didn't like Shana (the character) because shes like Louise from Zero no Tsukaima (1st season) .... kinda annoying when they do nothing regarding their feelings....

Now to my fave characters:

-- Margery Daw: Gosh I love this woman :) ... Fun, knowledgeable, can out-drink you, gorgeous ... what's not to like?

-- Kazumi: She is the chick who is willing to give up her life to safe Yuji .... that touched me and she is mainly the reason why I didn't like the ending... I was hoping she would be fused with Shana or something .... My heart goes to this chick... really liked her character

-- Whilelmina: her " de arimasu " is just cute :) Her character is also cute :)

-- Pheles: What a lover! .... wow :)

-- Sabrac: He didn't die ?? WTF?!! Jaw-dropping villain

crystalalien87
2008-10-12, 00:10
Well im about to watch 2nd season but ill do this anyway...
Shana- i mainly like cuz of her tsundere attitude :) she is strong and cute when she is unsure...10/10
Kazumi- well its obvious i dont really like her... she is like a siesta in ZnT and i would just perfer Shana over her but she is a good character...

Bennyswan
2008-11-12, 21:40
Shana - well i just finally caught up from the series but half this time I just wanted to give her a nice big hug. =] Fun and pretty character

Wilhelmina Carmel - I loveeeeee her ....... for many reasons =D

Yuji - Yesss a main protagonist who actually uses his head and gains his power in the end (sorry that last part about power made no sense).

and more... but I kinda forgot who else i voted for aha

Isekaijin
2008-11-16, 02:02
Lets see...

Yuji: A great male protagonist. Although he started off as the "damisel in distress" has gradually earned my respect. He is smart, powerful, and not a wishy-washy guy. Although it was pretty close with Yoshida.

Shana: Need explanations? The girl has evolved since her early Flame Haze days. She found her heart and could quickly cope with her newly found feelings. Despite that, she is very proud and strong, a rare quality among anime females. And her Urusai, urusai, urusai, is one of the cutest things I've ever seen.

Alastor: Not much in the anime, more in the novels and the CD dramas, Alastor serves as a great comic relief. Above all his "paternal instinct" towards Shana, and his reluctance to let the unworthy mistes become her boyfriend made me laugh as hell. He is pretty powerful too being one of the two gods of the crimson realm.

Yoshida: She is not just the necesary rock in Shana's shoe. She has also developed a lot since the beginning. She confessed to someone prone to dissapear (She didn't know about the Reiji Maigo when she confessed, right?) She is very strong too, in a different way from Shana.

Besides in the Shana-tan I simply love her "I'm so going to kill her" quote.

othera
2008-11-16, 12:38
She sais she is going to confess, but only to shana i believe. And she confesses shortly after finding out about it i think, i may be wrong though :D

Raiyushi
2008-11-27, 02:14
My votes are:
1. Shana because well.. What's not to love about Shana? Infact, I'm dying because i'm running out of Shana to get my daily Shana Fix.
2. Yuji Sakai because when he goes SnH Yuji he's imba?
3. Wilhelmina Carmel ~de arimasu
4. Other - Sabrac simply because he's got ninja tricks up his sleeve and he surfs on a sea of swords...Like, come on. How awesome is that? Surfing on Swords!

Fire Haze
2008-12-02, 19:04
Hecate, Shana, and Wilhelmina are my favorite characters. Hecate is just so pretty, Shana is like me in multiple ways, and Wilhelmina has a nice way of talking. ~de arimasu.

The Crimson One,
Miranda-chan

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya
2008-12-08, 08:16
Hmm, just HAD to rush through the series (in Chinese subs, no less) from Kansai Airport to KL Airport.

So after running through the two series, SnS and SnSII, I voted for:

Shana, that's for sure. Urusai, Urusai, Urusai! ['tis directed to those who have something against her]

Yuuji, although he starts off unawares (and right thru SnS Season 1), he's actually helpful later on, in SnSII. Really. And I remember from somewhere (the novels?) that he actually kidnapped Shana to Seireiden. I hope they have some hawt action in there. Seriously.

"how do you make babies"

Let's hope Yuuji answers that question!

And for others... Chigusa!
Chigusa: Can you say MILF? :P
Yes I can. MILF.

DeDaydreamer
2008-12-19, 16:38
Hmm...my favourite character? Probably that old man that who "eats" torches and Annaberg(yes ,ANNABERG). I love his passion for human civilization.

Appurukami
2009-03-09, 18:59
1. Shana- for obvious reasons that I dont think need mentioning (no Shana = no show)

2. Margery Daw- hard drinking, badass fighting and spells that are actually nursery ryhmes?
well I thought that was cool anyway

3. Marcosius- Awesome because he tells it like it is, he isnt afraid to make fun of Margery and his laugh is just plain crazy

Princess-Euphemia
2009-03-10, 16:23
i voted for Shana,Kazumi and Fumina

KimmyChan
2009-03-25, 06:31
I've always liked Margery Daw ^___^

Domini
2009-04-03, 15:13
Shana of course!

Hitsugaya_Toshiro
2009-04-22, 18:31
My favourite is Shana ^^

KimmyChan
2009-04-25, 14:40
Shana herself would be my second choice of favourite character :)

Code Geass
2009-05-11, 19:30
My favorite character is Shana, hands down. How could it not be? :)

Ryuou
2009-05-12, 22:22
Indeed, haha.

KimmyChan
2009-05-15, 07:04
Oh ok, let me put it another way then; Shana & Margery are my joint fave firsts :D

kamehameha
2009-07-24, 18:13
i hateeee yoshida. please use that thing pheles gave you already

digger314
2009-07-24, 23:04
i hateeee yoshida. please use that thing pheles gave you already

no that would redeem her character. do you really want that?

mitsuganae
2009-07-24, 23:45
^ Hey, it's possible that redemption through death is exactly what the author has in mind for Kazumi. I mean, she was less than ineffectual as a love rival and influenced the Shanaverse very little in general, so her very reason for existing just might be to play a crucial part in the good guys' victory by going out with a bang at the right moment. But just imagine how many people would be royally pissed off if the author has Kazumi summoning Pheles and ends up surviving somehow!

While I'm in this thread, I might as well weigh in on its topic. Aside from the usual suspects (Shana, Yuji, etc.), I must say I actually have something of a weakness for Hecate. I find her "purity" and her aloof yet quietly determined temperament rather appealing. It's also poignant that there's an emptiness within her that cries out to be filled. She just happens to be on the side of evil, of course, but still...

I've read that Hecate comes across very differently in the novels (which I haven't read aside from III), so maybe it's only anime-Hecate that I find appealing.

digger314
2009-07-25, 22:38
Just saw Shantan and Yoshida is actually kind of cool in that, all devious and everything ;) But yeah having herobtain that Hougu probably has more purpose than just torturing her over the choice of whether to use it or not.

alvinkhorfire
2009-07-27, 02:35
^ Hey, it's possible that redemption through death is exactly what the author has in mind for Kazumi. I mean, she was less than ineffectual as a love rival and influenced the Shanaverse very little in general, so her very reason for existing just might be to play a crucial part in the good guys' victory by going out with a bang at the right moment. But just imagine how many people would be royally pissed off if the author has Kazumi summoning Pheles and ends up surviving somehow!

Do you all think that summoning Pheles with Yoshida using Giraida will save Yuji? Not quite. Remember that Pheles will prioritize on saving Johan. If a situation, which Johan can survive without saving Yuji, somehow occurs, why would Pheles want to save Yuji?

Besides that, although Pheles is a powerful Crimson Lord, I think that she cannot easily defeat the 3 Trinities such as Sydonay, Hecate and Bel Peol. Using Giraida is not a sure-win method, though.

mitsuganae
2009-07-27, 02:58
^ I've never said Pheles has enough power to get everything done. But she can be one (possibly crucial) element that contributes to saving Yuji (if indeed he will be saved) and defeating the bad guys. Even though her motive may be to save Johan, Yuji may also end up being saved as a result. The defeat of evil will obviously be a team effort (and I'm saying that Pheles may be a part of that effort), even though Shana will (most likely) deliver the coup de grâce.

The author can use/manipulate the Shanaverse and make all sorts of scenarios possible (I just hope things won't get as convoluted as, say, Harry Potter VII). Of course Kazumi's hougu might be just a red herring, but my intuition tells me that Kazumi and Pheles have a (possibly crucial) role to play in the story's climactic plateau.

alvinkhorfire
2009-07-27, 04:55
mitsuganae
I see your point and I agree with you. Just then, I would like to highlight that Pheles is certainly selfish enough to deceive Kazumi into thinking Yuji can be saved by using Giraida. There is no guarantee that by summoning Pheles, she will try to save Yuji. I am all for Yuji and Shana to be together in the end, but I do not want to see Yoshida sacrificing herself for nothing.

mitsuganae
2009-07-27, 05:54
I certainly don't deny Pheles's selfishness (though pre-Johan Pheles must've been a whole lot worse, judging from what Wilhelmina says). Aside from a scenario where saving Johan also saves Yuji (by setting up some kind of Shanaverse condition that one cannot be saved without the other), another possibility is that Shana (and others) will ensure that Yuji will be saved by somehow keeping Pheles in line while saving Johan.

[Incidentally, I've always found it wonderfully symbolic that Yuji carries a benevolent being and a malevolent being within him. I wonder if the author intends to make something of this, such as some kind of symbolic conflict between the two, or by underlining that both have to be somehow expelled from Yuji for things to work out.]

Also, if Kazumi's death by using the hougu (unless a Disney death or some convoluted plot point/trope/whatever ends up sparing her life) contributes to Yuji's salvation and being with Shana in the end, I wouldn't regard it as a sacrifice for nothing. IMHO it would be much like, say, Goethe's Egmont, Leroux's Erik, or (in a way) Romeo and Juliet -- a posthumous triumph of the spirit. It's certainly a noble enough way to go, methinks.

alvinkhorfire
2009-07-28, 01:29
mitsuganae
Yes, I feel the same way. The author always has interesting storyline to keep us excited for more. I think you also noticed that Yuji has the strongest malevolent being, whereas Shana is contracted to the strongest benevolent being, Alastor. It does serve as a strong contrast, similar to the one you just mentioned.

Let's assume that Yoshida does sacrifice herself at the Episode 24 of the second season of the series. When Pheles is being summoned, she will probably say :"Thank you, Hecate for doing the hard work of extracting Reiji Maigo from Yuji". She then takes the Reiji Maigo and releases Johan. And, off they go without saving Yuji. If that happens, that is I mean by Yoshida sacrificing herself for nothing.

hachi_go93
2009-08-28, 02:43
I only vote for Hecate n Wilhelmina coz I like calm,
quite n mysterious girl,they're cute in my opinion

I found other characters are annoying n uncool(no offence)
especially Yuuji-who's useless in my opinion-,
Shana-always mad at Yuuji,if she likes him,just be honez-
,Yoshida-at first I found her cute,but later=annoying

please,no offence!

oh,no!!!!forgOt to vote for Pheles!T^T

Velsy
2009-08-29, 00:35
I voted for Yuji cause I absolutely <3 him

and toilet paper throwing lady. Because I like her abilities and shes kinda cool.

katiemirmo
2009-08-30, 17:09
Shana and Yuji!
*squeals* XD

JeromeREC
2009-09-03, 03:49
Mine's Yuji.

Evinkuruga
2009-09-05, 16:39
I'll go with ~Wilhelmina.

Celebrianna
2009-09-08, 20:04
My choices are Shana, Wilhemina, Majorie, Satou (such a hot guy too), Alastor and Marjorie's crimson lord.