Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito

[Anlushac11]

I wasnt sure at first but I really like this one.

Heavy on the Lesbian tones but I can deal with it.



Loved the last episode where the natives thought that Lillith was their god so to impress them further she was doing the simple children magic tricks like the disappearing thumb. That had me rolling.

[Keitaro]

Yup im still watching it, so far its been interesting you never know what will happen in the next episode. In the first episode I knew that girl with the sword was a gay, so in the next few episodes the girl with the hat also seems to a gay so I say to myself what the hell is this then I remember that this was a H game before. Yeah so anyways lesbian chick stuff doesn't bother me one bit after all I am a guy :naughty:

[DarkSide Hero]

this is becoming my fav anime of the season.
although all of the H-game to anime seems to be good

[Akiace]

If Hatsuki is a guy it would have been perfect. I find it strange that in every episode the girls will fall for her, even the little girl in the latest episode. But other than that, this series is so good. I'm still wondering who Adams is (can't be that ego guy right??), why Eve is so mysterious, how the characters are related to each other, and whether the stories we've seen in each episode have a more significant meaning than just random tales from the books in the great library...Each episode seems to provide more questions than answers. I hope they will not be left unanswered in the end.

[Keitaro]

lol i wouldn't be surprised one bit if Hatsuki was adam after all, that would explain why some girls are attracted to her even though she is a girl. And I can't beleive that evil guy could be Adam, afterall Adam was the one who created Eve. So he muss be a good guy in this anime. I also hope they don't leave alot of question unanswered that would really suck.

[Akiace]

Hatsuki as Adam? That's possible. I think in ep 2 at the library Lillith said Hatsuki reminds her of someone she knows (and love?) and after that she started acting so intimately towards Hatsuki. I think Hatsuki is so cool! In the beginning (ep1) I didn't like her cos I thought they're overdoing this lesbian thing, but in the episodes that follow she's so composed, cold, and yet caring towards the girls around her.

[Lord Raiden]

I totally love this series. Tons of fun. The girl with the weird hat is cool as heck too. :)

[Kempis Curious]

I'm really liking this anime, though it was a bit too confusing with the big setting switch in ep 1-1.5. The guilt-ridden shoujo-lust sure was hot, though. :naughty: I love a good amount of hot spice in an anime.

The Myuki fansub group put the explanation at the beginning of the eps which was cool. I'd been watching the EF sub.


Hatsuki as Adam? That's possible. I think in ep 2 at the library Lillith said Hatsuki reminds her of someone she knows (and love?)

Didn't she say "Yamiyama" was the person she was reminded of? The explanation said "Yami" was made to protect the library. Sounds like Lillith swings both ways, but why would she not want to be with Adam? And why was she accepting souls from that psycho Gargantua in that frog ep?

I'm wondering if her lusty dingbat persona is just a diversion for her while she is waiting for something else.

[Koshiba]

I'm following YamiBou! ^_^ One of the main reasons I downloaded it was because of the yuri in it. :P it's good to see some more Yuri anime. ^^ I've have all the CG for the game and the game looks like it doesn't make any sense at all. I'm kind of wondering if the anime will be resolved properly.. Either way, I really like it. ^_^

[Sukato]

And why was she accepting souls from that psycho Gargantua in that frog ep?


This is my main interest in the anime right now. Also I want to know what that silver haired goofy guy in each book is (the one that dresses up in context). Also, what was the "key" for in episode 2. Too many mysteries in this anime..

Still though my favorite episodes are the 2 train episodes. Kinda nice how each "book" feels almost like a completely different anime.

I wonder if Hatsuki is the same seiyuu that voiced Aoyama Motoko from Love Hina and Sakaki from Azumanga Daioh (both of those two were the same seiyuu). She seems to have a similar character as them.

[Kempis Curious]

IIRC in Hebrew mythology Lillith was the first wife of Adam who got divorced because she wanted to be on top (dominant) during sex. ^_^ She then turned into an evil vampirish thing. I'm wondering if Lillith here is completely evil and maybe the grandma of all the demons. :confused: Has she done anything "nice" or unselfish so far?


Also, what was the "key" for in episode 2. Too many mysteries in this anime..

Key? I remember a time bomb, not a key. :D


-k

curious

[Sukato]

It's a very small key that Hatsuki kept inside her collar in episode 2. The girl dressed up in a china-like outfit asks her for it right after they kill the siberian tiger. At the end of the episode she thanks Hatsuki for the key and walks out of the train station.

[Anlushac11]

:confused: Has she done anything "nice" or unselfish so far? curious

regarding Lilith:

2 episodes back a guy made a Princess fall in love with him and he did a ceremony to give her soul to demons or something similar. At the end of the episode we see that the Lilith was the receiver of the soul. If this Lilith is similar to the Lilith in the Hebrew writings and is similar to a Vampire then Lilith may need souls to feed on. That part of the mystery is still unravelling

And I think Lilith is too cute. Except for the soul taking part she has a good personality

[DarkSide Hero]

If Hatsuki is a guy it would have been perfect. I find it strange that in every episode the girls will fall for her, even the little girl in the latest episode. But other than that, this series is so good. I'm still wondering who Adams is (can't be that ego guy right??), why Eve is so mysterious, how the characters are related to each other, and whether the stories we've seen in each episode have a more significant meaning than just random tales from the books in the great library...Each episode seems to provide more questions than answers. I hope they will not be left unanswered in the end.

That's one of the things I like about this series, the fact that Hatsuki is gay.

[JOJOS'STAR]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=Cyan]Hi you peaple seems to like this series I ave the episodes but was never tempted to start them, am I wrong about this say compared to the same kind of anime for example [FONT=Impact]

[rayearth]

It is so tempting to just spill the beans as someone who knows the story...

Lots of interesting theories so far, most of them are on the right track, but not exactly spot on... Here's a few things that caught my eye:

"Hatsuki is a guy" - umm, half right...

"Yami = Yamiyama" - nope, Yami is someone else, they just _sound_ similar.

"Adam can't be that ego guy" - you got that right :P

"What's the key Hatsuki gave the woman in episode 2?" - which fansub did you watch? If you watched the Miyuki one, you'll know that's a code breaker, the thing everyone was after on the train.

[NoSanninWa]

As for Hatuki's gender... I just watched episode 6. When Milka asked Hatuski if she was a boy, Hatsumi got very quiet. It was a strange sort of quiet like she wasn't sure how to answer the question. Then the yellow manju bird piped in telling Milka that Hatsuki was a girl. It bothered me that Hatsuki had to get interrupted.... it made me wonder if perhaps Hatsuki isn't a girl despite her endowments. Or perhaps.... only partly.

If that is the case then Hatusmi might be Adam... or Yamiyama... I wonder...

[Keitaro]

It is so tempting to just spill the beans as someone who knows the story...

Lots of interesting theories so far, most of them are on the right track, but not exactly spot on... Here's a few things that caught my eye:

"Hatsuki is a guy" - umm, half right...

"Yami = Yamiyama" - nope, Yami is someone else, they just _sound_ similar.

"Adam can't be that ego guy" - you got that right :P

"What's the key Hatsuki gave the woman in episode 2?" - which fansub did you watch? If you watched the Miyuki one, you'll know that's a code breaker, the thing everyone was after on the train.

And may I ask how do know the story, did you get it from the game or is their a magna.

[rayearth]

And may I ask how do know the story, did you get it from the game or is their a magna.

It's a game, never had a Manga.

Although I didn't play the game myself, I know someone who did who told me the story. The game is pretty confusing itself too :P

[aquilus]

I´m watching it ... it´s, uhm, interesting. Only seen episodes 1 and 2 yet though, so I´m not going to say more before I watch the rest ;)

[Kempis Curious]

...it made me wonder if perhaps Hatsuki isn't a girl despite her endowments. Or perhaps.... only partly.

:D I hope she not hermaphrodite. Bleah. I was hoping she hesistated in her answer because she's still reluctant about the whole "lesbian lust for your sister" thing.

I'm basing that on the first half of ep 1.

-k

[Xiandu]

Show sounds awsome, too bad there aren't any more seeds. Been trying to dl it now for like 3 days. Oh well guess I will wait for the American release if that ever happens. Hmm maybe one of my friends will have it. Happy Hunting!

[JaeRoler]

The seeds for Miyuki's ver are still available. So go get them now! :D

[Kempis Curious]

WHOOOOWEEEEE PART 7!!!!

Wow.... a slow- but intense-burning spice with good taste is how I love hot food and HOT anime. Bravo!


-k

[Koshiba]

Episode 7 was a good one.. The next episode looks really good. I can't wait. ^_^

[forestsprite]

I really want to d/l this series, but I'm wondering which group's version I should get. Can anyone make a comparison? My biggest concern is the quality of the translation; encoding, font and everything else is secondary. ^^

[Wandering A.I.]

I haven't "shopped around" at all, but Miyuki-Fansubs has a nice little intro note that shows they did some research or maybe played the game and the quality seems good AFAIK.

Re ep 7 (minor spoilers ;p), Hatsuki was my favorite before this for being so cool, but I was really starting to dislike her being so selfish this ep. After the listening at the bathroom and calling herself saitei, though, I started to feeling sympathetic. At least she knows. ^^ I guess I like her again, heh.

[lordwu]

Re ep 7 (minor spoilers ;p), Hatsuki was my favorite before this for being so cool, but I was really starting to dislike her being so selfish this ep. After the listening at the bathroom and calling herself saitei, though, I started to feeling sympathetic. At least she knows. ^^ I guess I like her again, heh.

Hatsuki loved Hatsumi so much that she wants to keep Hatsumi to herself. She has try very hard to keep that emotion in check. I actually don't hate her for doing that and wish that in the end they can get together and live happily ever after. :heh:
The story goes back and forth between episodes I found it rather confusing. Like in ep.7 it referred to some stuffs in ep.1 and it was aired more than a month ago. I think I'll have to rewatch the whole series once it's ended to understand more about the whole story

[Koshiba]

Well.. Hatsuki is my favorite character. I made a YamiBou avatar/sig but I haven't had the time to upload it and put it up yet. xD As for Hatsuki being selfish.. She obviously really likes Hatsumi and everyone knows that usually when people like other people, they're gonna be selfish. :P Most everyone will become selfish.

I always seem to have a thing for girls like Hatsuki anyways. Example: Mai from Kanon and Motoko from Love Hina. ^^;

And I really like Miyuki's fansubbing job on this. I haven't seen any of the other versions yet to compare though.. I don't think I will either because I'm highly satisfied with Miyuki.

[Kempis Curious]

Re ep 7 (minor spoilers ;p), Hatsuki was my favorite before this for being so cool, but I was really starting to dislike her being so selfish this ep. After the listening at the bathroom and calling herself saitei, though, I started to feeling sympathetic. At least she knows. ^^ I guess I like her again, heh.

(minor spoilers again)
I don't think you can lust for someone and still be cool with sharing. I'm not sure if this can be called selfishness or not since I'm not sure if sexual attraction is something one can control.
And good heavens, was she ever lusting hard! :love: I've never seen it depicted so well in an anime.

And golly am I ever dumb. I only realized after seeing it a second time that Eve was writing the letters. I suppose she has had a number of girl-crushes on her since she's been playing in the different worlds for a long time (I imagine). I'm guessing she knows best on how to deal with them.

-k

[rayearth]

The story goes back and forth between episodes I found it rather confusing. Like in ep.7 it referred to some stuffs in ep.1 and it was aired more than a month ago. I think I'll have to rewatch the whole series once it's ended to understand more about the whole story

Episode 7 just took place in the same world/book as the beginning of episode 1. It doesn't really have anything referring back to it storywise, so it's fine even if you can't remember what happened in episode 1. It's more like "what happened before episode 1".

[Keitaro]

Spoiler for ep 7

Just finsihed watching ep 7 and wow that was some hardcore lusting Hatsuki had for Hatsumi, I thought for a sec she was playing with herself on the bed :naughty: There was one part in the bathroom Hatsumi was singing/humming, when Hatsuki asks if she was singing Hatsumi denied it. I wonder if Hatsumi can really speak but hides it. The preview for the next episode looks good, we get to see Hatsumi again cant wait for more lesbianism acts lol.

[Wandering A.I.]

Still ep 7, weee ^^:>I thought for a sec she was playing with herself on the bed

I was sure of it until you said that. ^^ Looking at it again, I guess she could be crying? I still vote playing with herself. Heavy breathing, multiple quick flashbacks to Hatsumi showing flesh, etc.

As long as I'm in spoiler space. ^^ I'm kinda mixed about the whole letter thing. It seems like they were Hatsumi's honest feelings, especially with the sister bit. But it also seems she was trying to manipulate/suggest Hatsuki should just have a quiet, unconsummated love like the letter writer was doing. Maybe Hatsumi knew she was leaving soon and that's why she made the last letter like that - thinking that way I don't have to be mad about attempted manipulation via anonymous love letters which I think is kinda low considered by itself. ^^

[Kempis Curious]

Spoiler for ep 7

Just finsihed watching ep 7 and wow that was some hardcore lusting Hatsuki had for Hatsumi, I thought for a sec she was playing with herself on the bed :naughty:

Thought for a second? She did it twice!
The final :eek: for her wasn't any kind of release for her though, which was so tragic.

Wow, I thought this was the classiest depiction of "you know what" since end of Evangelion.

Also, I think Hatsuki called herself saitei because she did something nearly all of us consider yucky perverted... getting sexual arousal or false intimacy from listening to Hatsumui use the toilet. Ewwww, yuck. She should feel guilty, that's really wrong.

It's a heck of a subject for an anime to tackle... a descent into sexual perversion. I think this anime did it well.


-k

[Keitaro]

Thought for a second? She did it twice!
The final :eek: for her wasn't any kind of release for her though, which was so tragic.

Wow, I thought this was the classiest depiction of "you know what" since end of Evangelion.

Also, I think Hatsuki called herself saitei because she did something nearly all of us consider yucky perverted... getting sexual arousal or false intimacy from listening to Hatsumui use the toilet. Ewwww, yuck. She should feel guilty, that's really wrong.

It's a heck of a subject for an anime to tackle... a descent into sexual perversion. I think this anime did it well.


-k

I stand corrected she does it twice, well you couldnt tell whether or not she was doing it because it was covered. So who knows, I wouldnt be surprised if whe was doing it, after all it was based on an H game gota keep the fanboys happy.

[Ranko]

mutters that E-F is behind and my system dosn't like myuki's stuff for some odd reason.

[rayearth]

mutters that E-F is behind and my system dosn't like myuki's stuff for some odd reason.

Miyuki uses the latest koepi development codec which isn't what most people use. Grab it here http://roeder.goe.net/~koepi/xvid.shtml and set xvid decoder in ffdshow to "xvid.dll" and you should be all set.

[Akiace]

Once again, this show has left me completely confused...

So, is Hatsumi the one who wrote the letters to Hatsuki???
And I think Hatsuki really "did it". I was so surprised that an anime can go to such extent. But I still love this show nonetheless!!

[Key Board]

Yes, she wrote that letter because she knew she could never admit those words to Hatsuki truthfully in person.

There is a possiblity that Hatsumi/Eve is binded by some rule that forbids her from being romantically involved with someone.

[rayearth]

I don't think this really needs a spoiler tag...

For the comment about the series going "this far", this isn't the first time something like this has been done on a TV series. Ikkitousen also had a scene in one episode (think it's 6, not sure) that had something like this too.

Keep in mind that this series is curently being aired on Avex, a pay channel in Japan, so stuff that gets shown on it can go "a bit further".

[Anlushac11]

I think Hatsumi wont get involved because 1) She knows she cant stay and keeps moving on so she tries not to set up long term romances because when she leaves the other party will be hurt.

2) I like Lilith but I dont trust her. She apparently took the soul of the Princess as some sort of payment. That al the very least makes her questionable.

I get this feeling that Lillith and Hatsumi are opposites. Maybe Hatsumi spreads love and joy and Lillith spreads chaos and treachery. A balance of two opposite forces maybe?

[guest]

I just watched this series a few days ago and I got this message from some other website. I thought it might answer (or raise?) some questions here:

from esp 7:

I think that hitsumi does love hitsuki and that’s why she writes those letters. This is the case that both girls love each other but they are afraid of expressing their feelings because of the possibility of rejection, I presume. We can clearly see this fear in hitsumi’s letter, “No matter how much I think about you this is a kind of love that can't be realized.” The evidence that hitsumi loves hitsuki is in the letter (or is that email?) when she asks hitsuki out to see a movie. We see that actually, hitsuki already asked hitsumi out (amusement park or something) for that Sunday but hitsumi already had a plan (She just smiled and hitsuki said, “oh, you are booked already?”) On that day, hitsumi is all dressed up, looking great, as a matter of fact, so lovely that even hitsuki is asking if she is going out with a guy. Then we see that hitsumi actually goes to see the movie she mentioned in the letter ALONE. I mean, she just put on all the pretty clothes and go to see a movie alone? Of course not! I think that she is expecting “someone” to join her and that would be hitsuki because she asked hitsuki out in that letter only hitsuki doesn’t know that hitsumi is the girl who writes those letters so that hitsuki didn't go. I think hitsumi wants hitsuki to find out that she is the unknown girl; that way hitsuki will understand how she really feels about her. Unfortunately, because hitsuki only has her eye on hitsumi and really is not paying attention to others so that she never even replied those letters, not mention go out with the girl in the letter. That’s why hitsumi ends up seeing the movie alone and hitsuki still doesn’t know her true feelings toward her. Hitsumi did not have to go that far (and even ended up seeing a movie all by herself) if she doesn’t love hitsuki.
By the way, they are not sisters. That’s just the way hitsuki called hitsumi when she was a child. Since hitsuki has grown but hitsumi never grew (she just disappears to another world, or book if you prefer, when she turns 16), now she looks older than hitsumi. Hitsuki said so herself, “we are not blood-related anyway".

Somehow, I am still a little confused....

[Keitaro]

I just watched this series a few days ago and I got this message from some other website. I thought it might answer (or raise?) some questions here:

from esp 7:

I think that hitsumi does love hitsuki and that’s why she writes those letters. This is the case that both girls love each other but they are afraid of expressing their feelings because of the possibility of rejection, I presume. We can clearly see this fear in hitsumi’s letter, “No matter how much I think about you this is a kind of love that can't be realized.” The evidence that hitsumi loves hitsuki is in the letter (or is that email?) when she asks hitsuki out to see a movie. We see that actually, hitsuki already asked hitsumi out (amusement park or something) for that Sunday but hitsumi already had a plan (She just smiled and hitsuki said, “oh, you are booked already?”) On that day, hitsumi is all dressed up, looking great, as a matter of fact, so lovely that even hitsuki is asking if she is going out with a guy. Then we see that hitsumi actually goes to see the movie she mentioned in the letter ALONE. I mean, she just put on all the pretty clothes and go to see a movie alone? Of course not! I think that she is expecting “someone” to join her and that would be hitsuki because she asked hitsuki out in that letter only hitsuki doesn’t know that hitsumi is the girl who writes those letters so that hitsuki didn't go. I think hitsumi wants hitsuki to find out that she is the unknown girl; that way hitsuki will understand how she really feels about her. Unfortunately, because hitsuki only has her eye on hitsumi and really is not paying attention to others so that she never even replied those letters, not mention go out with the girl in the letter. That’s why hitsumi ends up seeing the movie alone and hitsuki still doesn’t know her true feelings toward her. Hitsumi did not have to go that far (and even ended up seeing a movie all by herself) if she doesn’t love hitsuki.
By the way, they are not sisters. That’s just the way hitsuki called hitsumi when she was a child. Since hitsuki has grown but hitsumi never grew (she just disappears to another world, or book if you prefer, when she turns 16), now she looks older than hitsumi. Hitsuki said so herself, “we are not blood-related anyway".

Somehow, I am still a little confused....

hmm...interesting I thought Hatsumi went with a guy to the movies I might have to watch that ep again, I didnt know she was alone. Still it doesnt make any sense, if Hatsumi really loved Hatsuki then she should of just confessed to her, it was very obvious that Hatsuki had feelings for her, and I think Hatsumi already kinda known Hatsuki really liked her or possibly love her, because of how jealous Hatusuki was when Hatsumi talks to guys. I dont know but I think Hatsuki(aka Eve) can speak, like when she was caught humming/singing in the bathroom in ep 7. Now im confusing myself im gonna watch ep 7 again to see if I missed anything.

[Koshiba]

I just watched episode 8. It was pretty good. :D That fox girl was really cute. xD But man.. This show airs so late/early? ^^;; I wonder if it has many viewers. I dunno but I'm really enjoying this show~ Hehe.

[Keitaro]

seen ep 8, I thought it was a good episode, and I agree that fox chick was cute, anything with cat ears and a tail also nya.


Interesting ep, from the last preview I thought Hatsuki was finally going to meet Eve, guess not, she does look like her except the eye color and the fact she can speak. I'm starting to wonder for what purpose is Eve? Shes not like the Eve in the Christian bible.

[guest]

all right, I just watched eps 8 and does anyone here know how this series is going to end? Please do tell. I am just dying to know. Thanks.

[Kempis Curious]

This is mighty good anime.



Interesting ep, from the last preview I thought Hatsuki was finally going to meet Eve, guess not, she does look like her except the eye color and the fact she can speak.



I'm wondering how the princess looks like Eve. She didn't say that Eve had a child before leaving. Maybe she did more than smile at those courting princes! :naughty:

I also gotta go back and see if the song she was humming had the same tune.
And what's with the comb? Can Eve pull that out of pocketspace?



Hopefully the parakeet will get some lovin' next episode! :D Kansai dialect and all...


-k

curious

[Hao Asakura]

Just watched ep 8 and have to say that the fox girl is pretty cute with a weird dialect. However, I still prefer Ririsu-chan better in terms of cuteness :D
Btw, isn't it obvious that the princess is indeed Hatsumi herself?? That comb is the proof.
Also for the bad guys part, why all the bad ninjas are female except the leader?? Hmmm...well, I'm pretty sure the answer is fanservice :heh:

[Keitaro]

Just watched ep 8 and have to say that the fox girl is pretty cute with a weird dialect. However, I still prefer Ririsu-chan better in terms of cuteness :D
Btw, isn't it obvious that the princess is indeed Hatsumi herself?? That comb is the proof.
Also for the bad guys part, why all the bad ninjas are female except the leader?? Hmmm...well, I'm pretty sure the answer is fanservice :heh:

That princess isnt Hatsumi, she said it herself. That comb was passed down to her, its like a tradition. Remember when Hatsumi turns 16 she dissappears, it was the same case for this world/book. Haven't you watched this episode she explains it all when they go inside to talk.

[Koshiba]

Those ninja girls were scary.. ^^;

[rayearth]

all right, I just watched eps 8 and does anyone here know how this series is going to end? Please do tell. I am just dying to know. Thanks.

There's 13 episodes in total. The last episode should air on the week of Christmas if nothing special happens.

As for the "isn't princess Fuji just Hatsumi/Eve?", watch episode 3 again for the answer.

[Keitaro]

Reviving this old thread again for ep9 lol maybe I should make a new thread for this.

I really liked this episode, Hatuski really kicked butt. She beat those ninja girls like it was nothing even the huge boss ninja was no match for her. With those sword moves and techniques I can't imagine her not being a god or semi god.

We also finally get to see what really happens between Ririsu and Garu's trade deal. It seems he offered that princesses soul to Ririsu in order to get Eve back. Instead he was given a world/book in return, because Ririsu doesnt want to directly hand over Eve to him. We also learn that Eve is Ririsu's younger sister, and that Garu looks like Yami, interesting. What stumps me is why does Ririsu need that soul for. Does she need it to survive kinda like a vampire but instead needs souls to live or stay young. I cant believe she tried to hook up with Garu shes such as flirt. ep10 preview looks interesting....only 4 more eps to go.

[Koshiba]

Yeah, Hatsuki really did kick butt in this episode. :P The next episode looks interesting too. That Garu guy disturbs me. ^^; and Ririsu is such a flirt. XD

[Hao Asakura]

Yeah, Hatsuki really did kick butt in this episode. :P The next episode looks interesting too. That Garu guy disturbs me. ^^; and Ririsu is such a flirt. XD

Just watched ep 9.
I have to agree that Ririsu-chan is such a flirt but she is STILL my favourite characters in this anime. Really can't stand her CUTE and PERSUASIVE voice :heh:
Anyway, I really hate that Garuganchua guy. He acts like a gay and keeps doing the ballet-thingy around. What an annoying character. If anyone is his fans here, expect to see a lot of him in this episode .

[Keitaro]

I thought ep10 was kinda freaky especially when we find out at the end of the episode where that girl was talking to her dead mothers corps. MMM..that demon fox was so sexy I could eat her. LoL she even grabbed Garu balls, even though she was drunk from sake, I had a feeling she would do that by the way she was talking. Too bad they miss Hatsumi/Eve again this time by a hundred years. It was an interesting episode nevertheless.

[Koshiba]

Yeah, when you find out she was talking to her moms corpse it was disturbing. ^^; Pretty good episode though.

[Kempis Curious]

That french made at the end of act 1 was the princess he turned into a frog? I better go watch that episode again, that character didn't have enough distinguishing features.

-k

[Anlushac11]

Yeah, when you find out she was talking to her moms corpse it was disturbing. ^^; Pretty good episode though.

There was a reason the previous post was done in spoiler so it owuldnt give away plot points.

Thank You for ruining ep10 for me since you couldnt be bothered using a spoiler tag.

[Koshiba]

There was a reason the previous post was done in spoiler so it owuldnt give away plot points.

Thank You for ruining ep10 for me since you couldnt be bothered using a spoiler tag.

Well personally I never read anime threads until I've seen the latest subbed episode so I don't get spoiled.. But feh sorry. ~_~

[quiet insanity]

Any one else getting crappy quality with the Miyuki fansub? I've downloaded it twice, and both times the picture bleeds all over the place. Gah.

[Kempis Curious]

Any one else getting crappy quality with the Miyuki fansub? I've downloaded it twice, and both times the picture bleeds all over the place. Gah.

Worked fine for me, though I'm very unpicky about video quality. :( Was it so bad for you that it was busted/unwatchable?

-k

curious

[Wandering A.I.]

Heh, I had that problem with the latest ep as well - along with it killing media player classic constantly. I tried the four latest xvid binaries koepi offers (the 1.0 beta, nic's latest, previous dev/unstable, stable ^^) and none of them worked. T.T

Using ffdshow with it's libavcodec decoder did, though (ie. not set to play xvid using xvid). I'm surprised - last time I tried ffdshow it was full of bugs, was one of the few things I knew that could crash win2k every few releases, and was never up to date with playing back the latest xvid advancements. Actually seems functional nowadays, but maybe I just got lucky. ^^

[rayearth]

Any one else getting crappy quality with the Miyuki fansub? I've downloaded it twice, and both times the picture bleeds all over the place. Gah.

It's most probably you have an outdated version of ffdshow installed.

Get the lastest one at:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ffdshow/

As a general note, everyone should use ffdshow, if you do use it, you don't have to worry about getting multiple versions of different codecs to play things. And you DON'T need to get the new version of XviD 1.0 to play things encoded with it (like Yami 10), having the old codec WITH ffdshow works just fine.

[Wandering A.I.]

As long as we have four posts on off topic playback matters anyway...make sure the ffdshow you get is the latest like rayearth said. In this case "ffdshow-20030523.exe" from his link. The "ffdshow.exe" on there, despite how you might think it would be the default thing you should pick up if you didn't know to check the dates, is an old version and doesn't work with yami 10 - no bleeding, but the farther from a keyframe the more corrupt blocks you get until the video is a mess (wonder if it's gmc or b-frames that's doing it in? or something else? ^^).

Similarly the latest plain "ffdshow" from the normal project files list on sourceforge doesn't work, you need to get the one under "ffdshow-alpha" which is listed under all the old, out of date, plain "ffdshow" files despite the files in each group being latest on top. You can tell this thing has a sordid history, eh?

[quiet insanity]

Yes, it was unwatchable.

Also, well the newest ffdshow file is from May, and I installed it after may, so that's not the problem. I'll have to try that other decoder thing that was mentioned.

[guest]

Heh, I had that problem with the latest ep as well - along with it killing media player classic constantly. I tried the four latest xvid binaries koepi offers (the 1.0 beta, nic's latest, previous dev/unstable, stable ^^) and none of them worked. T.T

Using ffdshow with it's libavcodec decoder did, though (ie. not set to play xvid using xvid). I'm surprised - last time I tried ffdshow it was full of bugs, was one of the few things I knew that could crash win2k every few releases, and was never up to date with playing back the latest xvid advancements. Actually seems functional nowadays, but maybe I just got lucky. ^^


Really? the 1.0 beta works perfectly fine with me. It's ffdshow that doesn't work. Uhh, I wonder why the difference...

[strider_hiryu]

did anyone else notice the OP changed slightly?

[Mistwrath]

You mean the opening song ? There are 2 ending of the lyrics where the female artist dragged it longer, that's what i noticed :D

[Mistwrath]

And before I forget, anyone has the Kanji aka English title for the opening song, been trying to find it forever ...

Thanks to anyone who has any idea about it :)

[rayearth]

anyone has the Kanji aka English title

That makes no sense at all...

[skittles and hohos]

And before I forget, anyone has the Kanji aka English title for the opening song, been trying to find it forever ...

If you're looking for the OP song it came out a while ago...or did you just want to know the name of the song?

[Kempis Curious]

You mean the opening song ? There are 2 ending of the lyrics where the female artist dragged it longer, that's what i noticed :D

Really? Wow, y'all must have a real good ear for music! I'm going to check that out after this post. ^_^

Was there anything else? I didn't watch it, I got something from the fridge while the OP was playing.

-k

[Keitaro]

really their was an OP song change, I didn't know. I always skip the OP theme

[strider_hiryu]

it's still the same but with little subtle differences...it sounds clearer now or something...i dunno can't put my finger on it


And before I forget, anyone has the Kanji aka English title for the opening song, been trying to find it forever ...

Thanks to anyone who has any idea about it :)

Hitomi no Naka no Meikyuu by Aiko Kayou....it's in the opening of Miyuki sub

[Keitaro]

just seen ep11

What a surprise in this episode I was never expecting Eve to just appear out of nowhere at the end like that. How come that fox demon can touch Ririsu hat I thought she said only her and Eve could touch it without getting shocked to death. Anyways since Eve appeared all of the sudden I'm really itching for ep12 , I can't wait. Oh yeah Ririsu looked really cute without her hat :)

[Kempis Curious]

just seen ep11

What a surprise in this episode I was never expecting Eve to just appear out of nowhere at the end like that. How come that fox demon can touch Ririsu hat I thought she said only her and Eve could touch it without getting shocked to death. Anyways since Eve appeared all of the sudden I'm really itching for ep12 , I can't wait. Oh yeah Ririsu looked really cute without her hat :)

There's a couple of odd things which are suspicious... the hat thing, Ririsu turning into a wimp, and Eve being comparatively chatty. I hope they don't do another Eve-lookalike, that would be dumb. :(

I also wonder where that trickster character was in the last episode, and where that little girl with the time-splitting headaches went off to. :confused:


-k

[Keitaro]

Now that I think about it Ririsu did act strange, almost wimpy like. Remember what the fox demon said, she said that the other fox demon the younger looking one was her otherself or someting like that. So I'm thinking thats how it is with Ririsu & Eve. So it might not be the real Eve & Ririsu, all well.

[guest]

Has anybody watched eps 12 yet?



That’s the happy ending for Hatsuki??? Eve being incarnated and becomes her child???? I really don’t think that this is what Hatsuki wants. I don’t hear her saying, “Oh, Oh, this is what I always wanted….”
Asides from that, I thought the story was pretty much wrapped up. Everybody has a “happy” ending, so why bother doing eps 13? Is there anything that’s unaccounted for?

[rayearth]

why bother doing eps 13?

Yes, of course there is. Just think about the episode title for episode 13. Really, watch the next episode preview, there is still stuff left unaccounted for. And might as well take the chance to say it here:

What you saw in episode 12 is different to the game ending - Garu's "ending" never happened in the game.

[Keitaro]

Has anybody watched eps 12 yet?



so why bother doing eps 13? Is there anything that’s unaccounted for?

Well from the preview for ep13 it is titled Ririsu, so I'm guessing it has to be about her. Ever since Eve came back Ririsu has become a big cry baby what happen to the flirty cute Ririsu. I liked her most of all teh characters, what gives.

Who the hell is that guy who was spying. lol he got poked in the butt by the fox demon. Is he Yami?

[rayearth]

Who the hell is that guy who was spying. lol he got poked in the butt by the fox demon. Is he Yami?


Nope, but with the series coming to an end like this, they might never tell who Yami is...

Ah well, IF that happens, I'll put up some "what really happened" thing somewhere for those interested to read on the background.

[nightshrooms]

Oh god, I hope there's a happy ending! For now, we can only pray....

[FlyByNite]

Oh god, I hope there's a happy ending! For now, we can only pray....

Word. There better be a happy ending for Hatsuki. Garu got one and he was evil the friggin entire series.

[MetalWyrm]

hey all
I'm new here
does anyone have the lyrics to the opening song?

[Anlushac11]

About ep12



Anyone notice how as soon as the large breasted fox demon lady took the hat off Ririsu she had a immediate and profound personality change?

Almost as if the hat had possesed her.

And as soon as Eve put the hat on her personality changed quite a bit as well. The eye on the hat moves so is the hat alive? A senient being? or somehow associated with Adam?

What do we really know about that hat?

[rayearth]

Your questions will be answered in episode 13, which should be released soon...

[kj1980]

Your questions will be answered in episode 13, which should be released soon...

somewhat...all I can say of Ep. 13 is:

( *´Д` )=3 檄萌え

[Anlushac11]

somewhat...all I can say of Ep. 13 is:

( *´Д` )=3 檄萌え

Arrggghhh!!! Damm you Babelfish and your incomplete translations :)



It said "3 sprouting ??? manifesto" :(

[kj1980]

Arrggghhh!!! Damm you Babelfish and your incomplete translations :)



It said "3 sprouting ??? manifesto" :(



enable Shift-JIS and you should see an AA (or what you guys call "smiley")

[guest]

somewhat...all I can say of Ep. 13 is:

( *´Д` )=3 檄萌え

Well, since eps 13 is not out yet, so...pardon me but what does that mean? I don't know what "Shift-JIS" is.

[NoSanninWa]

He means to set your browser to read japanese characters. Then look at the picture that the kanji make. It's really cool. Now I know how the Japanese make smilies!

somewhat...all I can say of Ep. 13 is:

( *´?` )=3 ???

Unfortunately that doesn't explain the 3 ??? part. Since most of the people here on AnimeSuki don't read Japanese could you translate this for us?

Edit: It seems that while I can view it, my browser can't entirely handle JIS. It seems to send ? instead of kanji. Please use your imagination to figure out what the ? stands for. Sorry.

[kj1980]

He means to set your browser to read japanese characters. Then look at the picture that the kanji make. It's really cool. Now I know how the Japanese make smilies!



Unfortunately that doesn't explain the 3 ??? part. Since most of the people here on AnimeSuki don't read Japanese could you translate this for us?

Edit: It seems that while I can view it, my browser can't entirely handle JIS. It seems to send ? instead of kanji. Please use your imagination to figure out what the ? stands for. Sorry.

The "?" between the "eyes" is supposed to be a Russian alphabet so it looks like the character has his mouth open with an expression of a raspy breath.

The "???" at the right side is the kanji "gekimoe" (extreme moe)

Due to the vast availability of our character sets, we are able to do all sorts of "smileys" Like so:

(　 Д )　ﾟ　ﾟ

shows an AA of a guy with his eyes popped out.


Our Japanese OS also handles personal dictionaries to convert hiragana characters into kanji. So we can add these type of AAs in place of the kanji conversion into the dictionary so that once we type something like "moe-" in hiragana, we can pull down our menus and select this instead as well as the original kanji, instead of typing each AA everytime we have to use it.

[Anlushac11]

What if...



Lilith and Eve are two parts of the same person? Somehow the two will merge to form one person? Lilith is the evil playful side, Eve is the thoughtful intellectual side.

[kj1980]

What if...



Lilith and Eve are two parts of the same person? Somehow the two will merge to form one person? Lilith is the evil playful side, Eve is the thoughtful intellectual side.



they are not. play the game.

[Anlushac11]

they are not. play the game.

Believe me I would love to play these games.

I have Kanon and Popotan for the PC but cant gett ehm to run :(

[GipFace]

kj1980 writes:
they are not. play the game.

How about this ... if you nothing to say but a damn witty retort, don't say anything at all.

I am sick and tired of reading every post you make, dripping with your superior knowledge of Japanese and how you are above everyone else and making fun of everything the English language offers and everyone who doesn't know Japanese. I've browsed through all your posts, and you argue such stupid off-topic things like how English l33tspeak sucks because it's not as good as JAPANESE character encoding (on this thread), or how the JAPANESE get 20mbit connections for cheap, or how you tell people to "go to your local bookstore" and buy Chobits manga for 500 yen or "play the game" to find out what happens. You flame everyone who is not Japanese because they're not as fortunate as you are. Live with it ... you don't need to grind it any more in our brains.

Here are some examples (http://atocha.mit.edu/nnl/da.txt), going through just 2 out of 11 pages of your posts.

Guess what? I'd rather prefer my cleaner air in Canada and not have to wear a mask on smoggy days. I'd also prefer my city's lower rate of crime. Your material goods you cherish can be imported ... but clean air outside is something your yen can't buy. I am proud to live where I am. Now what does this have to do with this topic? Because you intruded on the illegal VCD thread and basically showed off your nationality too. See how stupid you sound?

How about the funniest thread where you told everyone your adventures of Comiket 65 ... explaining what 300 000 otaku are like when you are one of them, trying to justify that you're different from the rest. Your arrogance amazes me, with the pure-Japanese posts (read Kimi Ga 13) in an English-speaking forum being your lowest point. Wait, that's not as good as your previous thread which stated "Since I am Japanese and I will be watching it first on TV, I will make this thread".

You are on my message ignore list from now on. So much for your "goal" of making non-Japanese fans out of anime ... all you do is alienate them. Good day.

--

As for YamiBou, I can't wait for episode 13. This show has been a pleasant surprise from the beginning, even though there are some parts which made me want to pull my hair off due to their irrelevance. Oh well <_<

Oh, big witches' hats off to the groups who did this series too.

[Keitaro]

they are not. play the game.

Not everyone can play the game, for starters virtually all of the forum member here don't know the Japanese language or are not able to get ahold of a copy of the game. So please watch what you say in your future posts. Thank you

[Akiace]

I hope a flame war is not going to start, cos this thread does not deserve to be closed...

anyway, I really can't wait to see how this series is going to end, esp with so many things still unexplained!

[kj1980]

Not everyone can play the game, for starters virtually all of the forum member here don't know the Japanese language or are not able to get ahold of a copy of the game. So please watch what you say in your future posts. Thank you

No, I am not going to rebuttal against that because I don't want to instigate something drastic.

So, I take your consideration deeply.

Japanese note: your signature underneath your SN reads:

勉強の日本語

Our language is in SOV form. That means, first comes subject, then the noun, and lastly the verb.

You should correct it to be:
日本語の勉強

[NoSanninWa]

I'd like to echo what Akiace has just said. These posts were way off topic. If a personal argument breaks out I'm not going to close the thread because it is more effective to ban the perpetrators. 'Nuff said.

[Anlushac11]

First off the reply was directed at me and Im not offended. So everyone just mellow, breath in...and breath out thsoe negative emotions...

Second, RELEASE THE DARN GAMES IN THE US SO WE CAN PLAY THEM!

Even if its only for the PS2 I can get a modded PS2 that will play Japanese games, but they dont do a English version and as much as I would love to be able to read and write Japanese its not an easy languange.

First PS2 game I ever saw was Pokemon and I thought the game was very cool. That was before the commercialism that made you want to kill anything short yellow and furry.

If anime producers are starting to realize that North America is becoming a larger section of the anime market, then why not make a english language version and make it available over here, maybe specify it as not intended for anyone under age of 15?

[guest]

I heard that the raw of ep 13 is out. So can someone spoil the ending for me now, please?

[guest]

Finally, ep. 13 is out.

[Mr.Minou]

Finally, ep. 13 is out.

yes it is. and well I have to admit that I didn't understand everything ^^;
if someone here could explain what he/she has understand...:D

[Iron Monkey]

First off the reply was directed at me and Im not offended. So everyone just mellow, breath in...and breath out thsoe negative emotions...

Second, RELEASE THE DARN GAMES IN THE US SO WE CAN PLAY THEM!

Even if its only for the PS2 I can get a modded PS2 that will play Japanese games, but they dont do a English version and as much as I would love to be able to read and write Japanese its not an easy languange.

First PS2 game I ever saw was Pokemon and I thought the game was very cool. That was before the commercialism that made you want to kill anything short yellow and furry.

If anime producers are starting to realize that North America is becoming a larger section of the anime market, then why not make a english language version and make it available over here, maybe specify it as not intended for anyone under age of 15?

:topicoff: Are u sure it was Pokemon? Considering Pokemon is a Nintendo francise, I highly doubt it was for the PS2.

But yeah, I wish they would release more games here in N/A. Some of those games look crazy cool, but I'm guessing there's not much of a market here for it.

[vipz]

Good lord, I didn't understand a thing in Ep 13. But there really wasn't much of a need to... :D

[guest]

Good lord, I didn't understand a thing in Ep 13. But there really wasn't much of a need to... :D

Sorry but what do you mean by that??? You don't like the ending?

[problemedchild]

Sorry but what do you mean by that??? You don't like the ending?


I'm guessing there is a lot of fanservice?

[mitsurugi_ryu]

Yes will the people who actually play the game enlighten us.
It will help a lot as to answer who is Yami, does Hatsuki exist in the game.
Miyuki- Fansubs said that Lilith was the library keeper, Eve is to populate the world and Yami is the protector. Based on this I am under the impression that Hatsuki is Yami which is not since Yami
is a guy. Or could it be Hatsuki is Yami reincarnated.


Anyway as for my first posting here is what I think of what the whole series is about. My posting is based on the anime only, no game background whatsoever. Please if you can watch episode 13 first at least two times because I did just that to grasp everything.



By the end of the series, we know that Eve originally was the caretaker of the Library and Ririsu was only filling in during her absence. It have been mention several time that Eve was "playing" or living throughout many worlds when she was not suppose to do so. The devil Fox did mention Eve about carefree attitude. Thus explain why Ririsu is so pissed at Eve attitude in episode 13.

And throughout the thousand years of Eve adventure she was somehow ended up in Hatsuki world as her older sister Hatsumi. We all know about Hatsuki huge crush on Hatsumi. Even though Hatsumi know about the crush she cannot return those feeling because she can only remain in one world until she is 16 or she might unleash he power and become the poison that destroy the book world (Scrapped Princess anyone?) Okay the Scapped princess part is definitely wrong. Hatsumi try to give hint to Hatsuki about this even to so far avoiding her, sending false love letter to Hatsuki "senpai" (episode 7 I think)and going out with some guy. However this only drive the rage within Hatsuki until
she injure Hatsumi in rage. Feeling guilt Hatsuki try to make up
while holding back her own infatuation.Partialy Disturb by the "Sayonara" sign by Hatsumi, Hatsuki sneak in and try to kiss
Hatsumi in first episode. But Hatsumi wakes up and leave that book world.

And after that Hatsuki start her with Ririsu journey through all the world until she meet Eve back. The rest of that we all know about
Gargantua, Ritsuko and the various sub character so no need to explain them because their story is self contain. But what if Hatsuki never actually leave her own world but only her conscience does (dreamlike feeling which the aura the series give me in other words weird feeling the first few episode) and Hatsumi never existed in the first place (depicted by no picture of Hatsumi with Hatsuki). I am saying this because Hatsumi actually said this during episode 13
" You are only chasing of something what you can never catch no matter how hard you tried because you already have it."
After that she wake up in the empty room without mentioning Hatsumi again
Also Ririsu originally use her hat to travel from book to book.
Without the hat she is powerless and change attitude which explain why she was crying she cannot return to the Library in episode 12. So how does Hatsuki meet Ririsu in episode 2 if she don't have the hat. To me it makes more sense that Hatsuki was dreaming the whole series. Which also explain how she can be
so powerful when fighting bad guys. It is her dream afterall.

Pay attention of what Hatsuki said. There is exist many world,
so it may be the existance of Hatsuki who is meeting Ririsu and the existance of Hatsuki who does not meet her. Hatsuki feel she actually meet Ririsu when she is actually not in realiy it just feel that way.The anime are actually trying to confuse us here in episode 13 by hinting this
but I feel that reality is somewhat the truth.
Here come the confusion part because Eve is implying she never exist in the first place how can she also claim to Ririsu she grow out together with Hatsuki in that book world. By impying means
' You are only chasing of something what you can never catch no matter how hard you tried because you already have it."

Here is what I think, the Hatsuki we saw at the end episode 13 is different than Hatsuki we seen from the very first episode or rather Hatsuki episode 1 which the one who truly grow up wih Eve. Hatsuki13 is the one who I am saying the one who dreamt while Hatsuki1 is
the other world Hatsuki. Most probably because Hatsuki13 is somehow link to Hatsuki1. I hope everyone can follow.
So why did Eve make a book mistake anyway if that was not the case. To summarize Hatsuki1 was the dream state which actually adventuring with Ririsu while Hatsuki13 is the final Hatsuki the one where Eve took the trouble for one last kiss.

Also The Universe Castle where Demon Fox reside it sort of crossing point through all the book world which is why Gargantua castle end up there. And also Gargantua castle is link to other book world also which is why Seiren his underling can go to Milka world.


Thanks for reading and please comment. If you feel the spoiler feature is annoying for my thoughts, please say so and I remove it.

[ThunderForceX]

Epd 13 最終章 .. -_-

”萌え無限地獄”

地獄です。....
何回も何回も萌え死にます。 :eyespin:

ヤミと帽子と本の旅人アニメ 本当に 綺麗 と思います。 :o

嘉陽愛子「瞳の中の迷宮」と小林沙苗「永遠の祈りを捧げて」 = :bow: !!!
LOL

[lordwu]

Epd 13 最終章 .. -_-

”萌え無限地獄”

地獄です。....
何回も何回も萌え死にます。 :eyespin:

ヤミと帽子と本の旅人アニメ 本当に 綺麗 と思います。 :o

嘉陽愛子「瞳の中の迷宮」と小林沙苗「永遠の祈りを捧げて」 = :bow: !!!
LOL

Hear! Hear!

I felt most of the scenes are from previous episodes though and they could have ended the whole thing in ep.12 since nothing new is happening in the last episode. :heh:

[ThunderForceX]

kj1980 writes:
they are not. play the game.
.....
.........
..................

As for YamiBou, I can't wait for episode 13. This show has been a pleasant surprise from the beginning, even though there are some parts which made me want to pull my hair off due to their irrelevance. Oh well <_<

Oh, big witches' hats off to the groups who did this series too.

hey Gipface, how come I missed that post ...
...you are my idol ^_-

=====line break======
oh yeah, and my post above me .. hehe, is just me paying respect to the great yamiBou series, a series doesnt have to be deep or to be logical sometimes to be considered good IMHO, after all, we watch anime for entertainment right ?^_- I wish everyone had great time watching this series ^_^!! and Happy New Year !! (I know I know, I'm late :p)

[rayearth]

Ok, this is not going to look nice all inside a spoiler tag, but oh well... My replies are the bolded text. Also, I haven't played the game myself, a friend of mine did and he told me the story, so some things might be a bit off.

Yes will the people who actually play the game enlighten us.
It will help a lot as to answer who is Yami, does Hatsuki exist in the game.
Miyuki- Fansubs said that Lilith was the library keeper, Eve is to populate the world and Yami is the protector. Based on this I am under the impression that Hatsuki is Yami which is not since Yami
is a guy. Or could it be Hatsuki is Yami reincarnated.

Anyway as for my first posting here is what I think of what the whole series is about. My posting is based on the anime only, no game background whatsoever. Please if you can watch episode 13 first at least two times because I did just that to grasp everything.


You see, the Anime deviates a LOT from the game, so if you want to disregard the game completely, then there is no answer anyone can give you, so I'll be using the story from the game to comment on yours.



And after that Hatsuki start her with Ririsu journey through all the world until she meet Eve back. The rest of that we all know about
Gargantua, Ritsuko and the various sub character so no need to explain them because their story is self contain. But what if Hatsuki never actually leave her own world but only her conscience does (dreamlike feeling which the aura the series give me in other words weird feeling the first few episode) and Hatsumi never existed in the first place (depicted by no picture of Hatsumi with Hatsuki). I am saying this because Hatsumi actually said this during episode 13
" You are only chasing of something what you can never catch no matter how hard you tried because you already have it."
After that she wake up in the empty room without mentioning Hatsumi again
Also Ririsu originally use her hat to travel from book to book.
Without the hat she is powerless and change attitude which explain why she was crying she cannot return to the Library in episode 12. So how does Hatsuki meet Ririsu in episode 2 if she don't have the hat. To me it makes more sense that Hatsuki was dreaming the whole series. Which also explain how she can be
so powerful when fighting bad guys. It is her dream afterall.

You see, in the game, when the main character you play enters a book, he would go into a body of a character, hence you "play" a different character in each book/world. This is kind of the idea they used with how Hatsuki jumped around, although she retained her own body (which kinda contradicts this, but hell, it would've been even more confusing if they didn't do this). So yes, she did go around with Ririsu to many different worlds, but only on the spirit level. Her waking up in the empty room marks the end of her "returning" to her own world/body.

You see, the hat is left behind by Adam and contains his "souma" power which enables it's barer to move between books. Now, the hats aren't the only things that has this power. Remember in episode 1, the letter opener Hatsumi left behind, Hatsuki used that to travel between books. Much like how Garu and Ritsuko managed to stay alive for hundreds of years after being "bathed in Souma" when Jiru died.

Similar to Garu, Hatsuki has "a piece of Adam" within her, when she touched the letter opener, similar to Garu and Ritsuko when they gained eternal life. This is why Ririsu was attracted to Garu at first, then Hatsuki afterwards and how she said Hatsuki "smelled like Adam". Yamiyama is another name for Adam. Now, as to why Hatsuki is so powerful with that katana of hers, read on...


Here is what I think, the Hatsuki we saw at the end episode 13 is different than Hatsuki we seen from the very first episode or rather Hatsuki episode 1 which the one who truly grow up wih Eve. Hatsuki13 is the one who I am saying the one who dreamt while Hatsuki1 is
the other world Hatsuki. Most probably because Hatsuki13 is somehow link to Hatsuki1. I hope everyone can follow.
So why did Eve make a book mistake anyway if that was not the case. To summarize Hatsuki1 was the dream state which actually adventuring with Ririsu while Hatsuki13 is the final Hatsuki the one where Eve took the trouble for one last kiss.

Umm, well, I see it as Hatsuki-1 sees Hatsumi leave, touches letter opener, goes to "dream", Hatsuki-13 is Hatsuki-1 "dreaming" until she gets the kiss from Hatsumi, then she wakes up and finally gets back to Hatsuki-1 "not dreaming".

Also The Universe Castle where Demon Fox reside it sort of crossing point through all the book world which is why Gargantua castle end up there. And also Gargantua castle is link to other book world also which is why Seiren his underling can go to Milka world.

Ah, you see, here's the "taking over another character" thing again. There are many characters in each world that has an "equivalent" or "other self" in another world. The Seiren in Garu's world is not the same Seiren as the one in Miruka's world. Think Meirin and the demon fox.

In the series title, the "Yami" there is Ririsu, NOT Eve or Hatsuki. The "hat" is, well, the hat. The hats in the game are "hunters", they are charged to take care of intruders in the library while the hat Ririsu had is the "head hunter". Hunters doesn't have to look like hats, Hatsuki is actually a hunter too (or more like a hunter's essence merged with her body). Hunters have absolute power over the beings in the book worlds (much like how Garu's grunts can't touch the hats), that's why Hatsuki is able to beat everyone she encountered.

Now, as for Adam. Adam never showed up in the Anime, nor did he really in the game. But as stated earlier, whoever that was "bathed in Souma" has a peice of Adam. In the game, someone (forgot who) actually tried to recreate Adam to trick Ririsu.




Anyway, hope that cleared some questions.

[FlyByNite]

:hmm:

So Garu gets a happy ending but Hatsuki ends up with no memory of Hatsumi? WTF... Grrr :frustrated:

Ok. So If I follow the whole Hatsuki13 is the Hatsuki re-awakened having spiritually travelled or whatever/dreamworld thru the entire series. Then why does that tape exist at the end if it's a non-Hatsumi populated world? And why does Hatsumi not find Hatsuki in the book she's looking for? Did that Hatsumi cease to exist or did she physically travel to another world and merge with Hatsuki13?

Also what's the deal with the character at the end reading a book and seeing the hat in it? Does that mean the library itself is contained within a book which oversees the story of the library?

I'd rather the show just ended last episode. I was hoping for a nice happy ending for Hatsuki and for like a minute I thought we got that. It looked like Hatsuki ended up in a world where Hatsumi didn't choose to leave and they were going to stay together there. But it was just a dream then she woke up. Then she stopped remembering who Hatsumi was.... :frustrated:

[rayearth]

Ok, here we go again...


So Garu gets a happy ending but Hatsuki ends up with no memory of Hatsumi? WTF... Grrr :frustrated:

Maybe this'll make you feel better - the ending Garu and Ritsuko got in the Anime never happened in the game.

Ok. So If I follow the whole Hatsuki13 is the Hatsuki re-awakened having spiritually travelled or whatever/dreamworld thru the entire series. Then why does that tape exist at the end if it's a non-Hatsumi populated world? And why does Hatsumi not find Hatsuki in the book she's looking for? Did that Hatsumi cease to exist or did she physically travel to another world and merge with Hatsuki13?

Do keep in mind Hatsumi does have the power to go into books and such. Hatsumi did exist in Hatsuki's world, she did until she disappeard when she turned 16 (as depicted in ep1). When she did disappear, she was erased from Hatsuki's memories. The tape she left behind was BEFORE she left the world, BEFORE she turned 16, remmeber the tape Hatsuki was playing at the beginning of episode 1? Now, for some reason Hatsuki retained some memory of that tape, hence she knows her daughter will be called Hatsumi.

Also what's the deal with the character at the end reading a book and seeing the hat in it? Does that mean the library itself is contained within a book which oversees the story of the library?

That's Aaya. He showed up at certain points in different episodes before, although he might've looked a little different. I'm not completely sure if that last scene has any big meaning, but just take it as an epilogue. And no, Aaya is not related to Adam nor the hat. As for the library being contained in a book, that might be, I mean, we are just on a planet in a solar system that's in the middle of a trillion others littered around the universe - and who knows if the univerise we're in is just another bunch universes :P

I'd rather the show just ended last episode. I was hoping for a nice happy ending for Hatsuki and for like a minute I thought we got that. It looked like Hatsuki ended up in a world where Hatsumi didn't choose to leave and they were going to stay together there. But it was just a dream then she woke up. Then she stopped remembering who Hatsumi was.... :frustrated:

Or would you have preferred if she remembered and kept chasing after Hatsumi? They're going to end up together later when Hatsumi is born anyway, give Hatsuki a break :P

[aniforever]

:hmm:

So Garu gets a happy ending but Hatsuki ends up with no memory of Hatsumi? WTF... Grrr :frustrated:

Ok. So If I follow the whole Hatsuki13 is the Hatsuki re-awakened having spiritually travelled or whatever/dreamworld thru the entire series. Then why does that tape exist at the end if it's a non-Hatsumi populated world? And why does Hatsumi not find Hatsuki in the book she's looking for? Did that Hatsumi cease to exist or did she physically travel to another world and merge with Hatsuki13?

Also what's the deal with the character at the end reading a book and seeing the hat in it? Does that mean the library itself is contained within a book which oversees the story of the library?

I'd rather the show just ended last episode. I was hoping for a nice happy ending for Hatsuki and for like a minute I thought we got that. It looked like Hatsuki ended up in a world where Hatsumi didn't choose to leave and they were going to stay together there. But it was just a dream then she woke up. Then she stopped remembering who Hatsumi was.... :frustrated:



ahh wth is with this ending errrr. man i know how you feel it's so disturbing how ep 13 ended...

what the heck they gave hatsuki a minute of happiness then completely erase her memories? that is just wrong. also they just said that hatsuki is going to be pregnant does that mean she’s gonna like guys now? Wth ahh… I haven’t been so confused and irritated since NGE. At first I only wanted to watch it for the yuri and tried really hard to not notice or try to figure out the confusing plot but…but…why?? Actually the mostly disturbing scene has to be toward the end when rirusu and hatsumi was on the floor omg what the hell were they doing all tangled up like that. Err I’m trying very hard to not think anything sick but since it was a h-game I guess I shouldn’t expect anything different... but still has she already forgotten about hatsuki someone that loved her so much? damn i feel like eve just likes to go around and have people love her then leave them in pain i wonder how many hearts she has broken or destroyed.

Also can someone explain to me who this aaya person is? it’s a she right? b/c the voice sounds like a guy plus that nine tail fox was hitting on aaya during ep 12 so I was just wondering. But seriously who is this aaya really? she appears everywhere for no reason and everyone seem to know her. Also in one ep rirusu said that they have been fool after seeing aaya what does that mean? I guess the most confusing part is the end, so is aaya like the story teller or is she really adam hehe just guessing since they never mention if adam was a girl or guy.

Another question they never mention (unless I missed it somehow) why rirusu took that princess’s soul or whatever it is? Also rirusu said that hatsuki didn’t go back to her own world err what’s that suppose to mean? Err even toward the end they still can’t give use a complete ending instead they add in more confusion.

Also they said that eve was born to populate the world but she can’t stay in a world longer then her 16th birthday so how the heck can she populate unless she start at 14 and have two kids in each world eck huh? The more I talk about it the more I get confused I guess it’s best to just let it go and move on with my life nothing more can be done. Still I think it’s so unfair for hatsuki she ended up with nothing at the end and what the heck does it mean that hatsuki is gonna be hatsumi’s mother? That is just wrong… ahh I can’t take this anymore *runs off to watch some comedy* . ja ne.

ps. hehe while i was writing this post someone else wrote something that i guess kinda explain what i'm asking but still overall confused. plus even though:

hatsuki gonna be with hatsumi again but it's not going to be the same they are gonna be mother and child not lovers unless they plan on going a higher step and be more then just mother and child eck. noooo

[Anlushac11]

Well here's my 1/2 cent...



This is my impression of what I have seen in the anime, I have not played the game.

Adam is a immortal being who created the Library. Adam needed someone to watch over the Library so he created two immortal sisters, Ririsu and Eve.

Eve and Ririsu take turns going into the books and experiencing the worlds. On thelast trip Eve doesnt come back and Ririsu has to go chase her down and bring her back home.

Hatsumi gets some of Hatsuki's blood on her during the letter opener accident and that gives her the power to travel through the books, coupled by the fact that Ririsu likes her. The y go through the different ooks til the end.

Eve knows why Ririsu is there and takes the hat from her and goes home, leaving Ririsu strended for a little while to get even for tracking her down.

Eve sends Hatsumi home to her own time, but it seems like the wrong book. Hatsumi in the beginning is the Hatsumi where Eve left. But Eve accidently sends her back to the book of the Eve that stayed...and.. whqat about the tape.. oh damm now Im all confused. HAtsuki got busy with Eve but it was just a dream but the pancakes were there the enxt morning...brain...melting...must stop...

Was there enough fanservice in ep13 for everyone? Not that Im complaining but that was a lot of it in one episode.

And what was with the Eve and Ririsu laying on the floor damm near in a 69 position with their arms entined in the others legs? At first I thought that they had just finished oral sex on each other.

And so now Eve and Ririsu have decided to go adventuring together. The tape at the end seemed almost like the producers were setting the show up for a sequel but dont see why unless the show was just really popular and they want to milk it more or maybe it ties in with a game sequel?



And Lilith/Ririsu is still my favorite. She is just too darn cute!

[Mr.Minou]

careful ! HatsuMi=Eve and not HatsuKi...check your post :p

about the end of Yami :

everyone said that eve was erased from Hatsuki's memories when eve turned 16...but why do the people in Garu/Ritsuko's world remember her ? in one ep (edit : episode 3 :p) the old woman says to Ritsuko : "you remind me of her...of Jiru(=eve)" or something like that...so this means that they still have memories of Eve (= Jiru in this world)...argh my brain is gonna burn :help:

[rayearth]

And again we go...


Also can someone explain to me who this aaya person is? it’s a she right? b/c the voice sounds like a guy plus that nine tail fox was hitting on aaya during ep 12 so I was just wondering. But seriously who is this aaya really? she appears everywhere for no reason and everyone seem to know her. Also in one ep rirusu said that they have been fool after seeing aaya what does that mean? I guess the most confusing part is the end, so is aaya like the story teller or is she really adam hehe just guessing since they never mention if adam was a girl or guy.

Aaya is a guy. In the game, he's someone who said he'd help the main character out (since he was completely lost after he was sucked out of his own world into the library) and did by appearing in many different worlds in different clothes (yes, it's the same guy). It's not really clear who Aaya is, but he does like poking his nose into everything he sees and seems to have some know who Ririsu really is. He can also book/world jump. And no, Aaya is not Adam.

Another question they never mention (unless I missed it somehow) why rirusu took that princess’s soul or whatever it is? Also rirusu said that hatsuki didn’t go back to her own world err what’s that suppose to mean? Err even toward the end they still can’t give use a complete ending instead they add in more confusion.

Err, wasn't that already answered in a later episode when Garu "questions" Ririsu for the whereabouts of Eve? Both of them are looking for Eve, and her only lead is by looking for where there is signs of Souma. Ritsuko did use her power to save Princess Mariel hence Mariel has some Souma within her as well. So in other words, Ririsu was looking for Mariel, and Garu "got it" for her.

As for Hatsuki not returning back to her own world, read my earlier reply about Hatsuki dreaming.

Also they said that eve was born to populate the world but she can’t stay in a world longer then her 16th birthday so how the heck can she populate unless she start at 14 and have two kids in each world eck huh?

Eve populated the world before the whole story began. Read the background info carefully again. The library was created AFTER the "gods" started fighting each other, which was AFTER the worlds were populated. Eve going to each world and only staying until 16 was her "taking time off" being caretaker for the library, not populating the worlds.




Eve and Ririsu take turns going into the books and experiencing the worlds. On thelast trip Eve doesnt come back and Ririsu has to go chase her down and bring her back home.


They don't. Eve was just "slacking off". At the end of the series, they intend to slack off together.


Eve sends Hatsumi home to her own time, but it seems like the wrong book. Hatsumi in the beginning is the Hatsumi where Eve left. But Eve accidently sends her back to the book of the Eve that stayed...and.. whqat about the tape.. oh damm now Im all confused. HAtsuki got busy with Eve but it was just a dream but the pancakes were there the enxt morning...brain...melting...must stop...


Not exactly "Eve sends Hatsuki home", but "Eve leaves Hatsuki to go home herself but Hatsuki doesn't want to go home just yet". Remember, she didn't "wake up" until after that kiss.


And what was with the Eve and Ririsu laying on the floor damm near in a 69 position with their arms entined in the others legs? At first I thought that they had just finished oral sex on each other.


Hey, this was based on a H-game, and a series basically has a big "Yuri" banner stuck to it, it's NATURAL they put AT LEAST ONE picture like that in there.


And so now Eve and Ririsu have decided to go adventuring together. The tape at the end seemed almost like the producers were setting the show up for a sequel but dont see why unless the show was just really popular and they want to milk it more or maybe it ties in with a game sequel?


Extremely unlikely. The tape was more of a support explanation as to why Hatsuki "remembers" Hatsumi. Read my earlier replies for more details. As for sequel to the game, that's extremely unlikely too - the game was originally released in 2001. There is more Yamibou coming though, on Drama CDs - there're currently 2 planned, coming in February and April.





everyone said that eve was erased from Hatsuki's memories when eve turned 16...but why do the people in Garu/Ritsuko's world remember her ? in one ep (edit : episode 3 ) the old woman says to Ritsuko : "you remind me of her...of Jiru(=eve)" or something like that...so this means that they still have memories of Eve (= Jiru in this world)...argh my brain is gonna burn


You got it the other way round. People only forget if Eve chooses to erase herself from that book - think what'll happen if she doesn't make Hatsuki "forget" herself? You think Hatsuki would've "woke up"? Nah.

[Mr.Minou]

well I think it's a lot more clearer now :) thanks rayearth for these explanation and your work (and the work of all your team :p) on this great anime :)

[Lord Raiden]

Wow, spoilers galore. ^_^;;

On top of that, this has to be one of the biggest "thinker" animes in a while. You definately burn some braincells working through this one. hehe. Which I think is rather fun, especially trying to sort out all the mysteries in it.

But on a side note, does anyone think that this series kinda resembled the "Myst" series in a few ways?

[Kempis Curious]

I thought the ending was so-so.
It seems like they weren't planning on making this episode, from all the clips from previous episodes in there and the fairly good wrap-up in ep 12. Even with the good long posts here, I can't shake the feeling that the creators of the game and anime didn't so much pay attention to loose ends in the storyline in favor of dramatic effect. Maybe NGE could get away with that... nah, it didn't. :)

I also don't like a "memory gets erased" ending to any work of fiction... I never see it as a heppy ending since you're practically killing the character. I'd rather have seen her response to the loss of Eve and her interaction with her future daughter.

Eve's personality also seemed to shift to more like Ririsu's too. Bleah, no reason to go from a mute Beldandy to a sexy Librarian sister so fast.

Overall I like the anime, I'm glad to watched. It was different. ^_^ That's important.



Drama CD's? :) Does anyone translate those?

-k

curious

[aniforever]

I thought the ending was so-so.
It seems like they weren't planning on making this episode, from all the clips from previous episodes in there and the fairly good wrap-up in ep 12. Even with the good long posts here, I can't shake the feeling that the creators of the game and anime didn't so much pay attention to loose ends in the storyline in favor of dramatic effect. Maybe NGE could get away with that... nah, it didn't. :)

I also don't like a "memory gets erased" ending to any work of fiction... I never see it as a heppy ending since you're practically killing the character. I'd rather have seen her response to the loss of Eve and her interaction with her future daughter.

Eve's personality also seemed to shift to more like Ririsu's too. Bleah, no reason to go from a mute Beldandy to a sexy Librarian sister so fast.

Overall I like the anime, I'm glad to watched. It was different. ^_^ That's important.



Drama CD's? :) Does anyone translate those?

-k

curious


yea i agree erasing someone's memory is the worse thing to do to someone. if eve had erase hatsuki's memory since the beginning then hatsuki wouldn't have the hope finding her and bringing her back. err no matter how much you tell me it's the right thing to do i still think it's wrong. ahh i don't know anymore.

plus i know it's a yuri anime and all but was the last scene with eve and rirusu really necessary? oh well i guess from a guy's point of view it is. ja ne

plus what's a drama cd?

[PocariSweat]

One thing I missed - who or what was the strange veil covered chibi-girl living in the library? I didn't catch any explanation of how she fit into things - just seemed thrown in to cause trouble from time to time.

[rayearth]

Drama CDs are like radio dramas (well, they are usually played on radio first, then sold on CDs). Basically they get the seiyuu (voice actors) from whatever series they're doing, make them "play out" a story or two, then sell it on CD. It's like a those "tell a story" tapes that come with children books, only it's not based on a fairy tale and doesn't come with a picture book.

Most series will have a drama CD or two at a certain point in time, provided it was popular enough (some games are popular enough to have Drama CDs too - Kanon 10+ of these before it was animated). Since it's audio only, nobody has tried subbing one as of yet - and no, don't look at me, I'm not going to try :P

One thing I missed - who or what was the strange veil covered chibi-girl living in the library? I didn't catch any explanation of how she fit into things - just seemed thrown in to cause trouble from time to time.

That's Kogechibi, she does have a much larger role in the game, but in the Anime, she's more of a troublemaker, much like how Ken-chan had a bigger role in the game while he was just there for jokes in the Anime.

[Anlushac11]

I must say the fanservice in the last episode was unexpected but quite appreciated. Seeing Hatsumi and Ririsu intertwined was...a special moment. :naughty:

And in the closing credits there are a few must have screen shots of Ririsu in lingerie. I will have those.

Once I have discussed it on here and understand it better I dont think it was too bad of a closing episode

Erasing Hatsuki memory seems like a quick easy way out and I cant help but feel sorry for Hatsuki. I can understand Hatsumi erasing her memory considering Hatsuki's obsessive behaviour and how she accidently hurt Hatsumi with the letter opener. But on the other hand maybe it was a way of being compassionate. Maybe Hatsuki erased her memory so Hatsuki wouldnt have to be in pain with a broken heart.

I was also suprised by Eve/Hatsumi's behaviour back in the Library. On the one hand she didnt seem to miss Hatsuki but on the other she made pancakes for Ririsu and was suprised when Ririsu told her she made the worst pancakes in the universe but Hatsuki ate them with a smile. Thats when she wanted to check on Hatsuki.

But why could she not find her in the book? thats why I thought Hatsuki went back to the wrong world.

[mitsurugi_ryu]

Thanks Rayearth, the dreaming part is what confuse me most.
Never played Myst before but to me
this series combine a lot elements. Girl transport to another world
arc, People living in the world without knowledge of what they really are and control by some force Lilith/Eve (The Matrix reference). Body jumping (Quantum Leap) and what hook us the most the fanservice. :love:

As for why Eve cannot find Hatsuki.

As Rayearth explain, Hatsuki is returning to the her own world but she is still not quite there yet when Eve is checking and still trapped within her dream. That is why Eve cannot sense Hatsuki physical presence. So Eve actually have to force Hatsuki to wake up by entering the dream and erasing the memory.

If you remember, Hatsuki is not the only one who memory is sealed but Garu mind was too. Remember episode 9 where Lilith unseal Garu memory.
Like Hatsuki Eve may gave Garu one forceful Happy ending with Ritsuko but what important Garu is happy in the end. Notice how
Hatsuki was smiling and looking cuter is this final episode.

Also Maybe Hatsumi/Eve is the kind of person who only "get down" with people having direct blood relation to her.
Didn't Eve is originally from Adam bone and become his wife.
Eve Have no problem making out with Lilith. And so by choosing to be reborn from Hatsuki maybe they can be reunited in a way.
Mother or child or whatever.
It may be weird but since this is anime I leave it to you to accept or not.

I just hope Hatsuki guy will not be a Garu lookalike. That will be one weird happy family.

[stormy001_M1A2]

It is not bad, but too many questions remain. And again, I have to the game to grasp the gist of it. Bah

[Key Board]

Something worth pondering, Rayearth...

If Kogechibi's hat can hook up with Hatsumi in the game, why can't Hatsuki do so in the anime?

Bloody murder I tell you!!!!

I demand on OAV!!!

[Keitaro]

All I can say what a confusing weird way the end it all. :confused: anyways after reading some of Rayearths posts I can kinda understand some of it, trying to fully understand everthing truly is a waste of time.

Well Hatsuki is gonna be a momma I can just see it already mother and daughter tossing each others salads :heh: Well at least she be happy and not ponder the memories of Hatsumi/Eve for the rest of her life. lol I wonder if Hatsuki's daughter will look like Hatsumi/Eve.

[Kempis Curious]

Most series will have a drama CD or two at a certain point in time, provided it was popular enough (some games are popular enough to have Drama CDs too - Kanon 10+ of these before it was animated). Since it's audio only, nobody has tried subbing one as of yet - and no, don't look at me, I'm not going to try :P


Yuh huh... I have a translated radio drama from Evangelion done by Zettai Unmei Anime 2 years ago. They called it a "PicSub"... when the seiyuu is talking the character's image pops up and the translation appear in word balloons. It's a bit more work than a regular fansub, but that drama was reeeeeeeally funny and this PicSub was totally worth downloading.

This is the only instance I've seen of this, I suppose there isn't much demand for it. :(

-k

[rayearth]

There's actually a much easier way to do it. There is already a readily developed timed script format for plain audio that already has plugins that work with most mp3 players called "Sakura script". It's used extensively for the Japanese desktop companion "Nanika" and "Ukagaka".

But as stated before, there's just not enough demand and this again pushes the legality issues even further. Japanese DVDs are maybe too expensive, but drama CDs aren't that much. Hence the "better" way of doing it is just releasing untimed scripts and people to buy the Drama CDs themselves. Now imagine how many people would do that?

[Ayu-ayu]

Just got my question made irrellevant, so edited! :)

[TiggsPanther]

Erasing Hatsuki memory seems like a quick easy way out and I cant help but feel sorry for Hatsuki. I can understand Hatsumi erasing her memory considering Hatsuki's obsessive behaviour and how she accidently hurt Hatsumi with the letter opener. But on the other hand maybe it was a way of being compassionate. Maybe Hatsuki erased her memory so Hatsuki wouldnt have to be in pain with a broken heart.


Personally I just think it's evil to end a story where someone's pursued someone across multiple worlds with that person being returned to their original world empty-handed.

It does finish the story - better than what some shows bother doing. But to me it just seems, well it goes against my narrative preferences.
I've got a soft spot for Worlds Travellers. But to me, getting back to your point of origin isn't the be-all and end-all. They say "Home is where the Heart is" - and when travelling from world to world like that sometimes the travelling itself changes you. Hatsuki evolved over the series. Who she was wouldn't be content to just go home. And making her do so just seems, I don't know, rather callous of the writers.

Hatsuki had already proven herself capable of existing outside her own world. She'd probably have been happier in the Library (with or without Hatsumi - though preferably with ;)) that going back to her own world without Hatsuki with her.
And the memory-erase effectively removes everything she became over the course of the show.

All in all I don't hate the series, and I don't even hate the ending. They actually brought a conclusion. I guess I just feel let-down by my first impression of it.

Tiggs

[Keitaro]

Personally I just think it's evil to end a story where someone's pursued someone across multiple worlds with that person being returned to their original world empty-handed.

It does finish the story - better than what some shows bother doing. But to me it just seems, well it goes against my narrative preferences.
I've got a soft spot for Worlds Travellers. But to me, getting back to your point of origin isn't the be-all and end-all. They say "Home is where the Heart is" - and when travelling from world to world like that sometimes the travelling itself changes you. Hatsuki evolved over the series. Who she was wouldn't be content to just go home. And making her do so just seems, I don't know, rather callous of the writers.

Hatsuki had already proven herself capable of existing outside her own world. She'd probably have been happier in the Library (with or without Hatsumi - though preferably with ;)) that going back to her own world without Hatsuki with her.
And the memory-erase effectively removes everything she became over the course of the show.

All in all I don't hate the series, and I don't even hate the ending. They actually brought a conclusion. I guess I just feel let-down by my first impression of it.

Tiggs

Well it does suck but thats just how it is. She doesn't belong in Eve/Hatsumi's world in fact she was only able to travel through books because she accidently cut Hatsumi with the letter opener and got some of her blood spilled on her. Also, remember Hatsuki will be the mother of Eve again in her world. Now I don't know if it be a clone of Eve/Hatsumi or the real thing but she gets to be with her again sometime in the future. I know thats really messed up considering Hatsuki was in love with Hatsumi but thats the best thing Eve/Hatsumi can do for Hatsuki since she really can't be with her. Also, I wasn't very happy that Hatsumi erased Hatsuki's memory like that but I guess it was for the better, wouldn't wan't poor little Hatsuki pondering/depressed all her life. So everything goes back on track like how it supposed to and everyone lives happily ever after, now thats definitely a conclusion to a very enjoyable series.

[Unmei]

Is this a good show? I was just wondering if someone couuld give me a small review of it. And by the we way to the Moderators, UR RULes are annoying.

>_<

[babbito2k]

Is this a good show? I was just wondering if someone couuld give me a small review of it. And by the we way to the Moderators, UR RULes are annoying.

>_<

The rules are for the forum, not the moderators. Please drag this back to the "annoying moderators" discussion in "site feedback". You can read about the show in the "fansubs" forum, I hated it.

[Evan]

Ummm.......its a nice show which is beautifully drawn and a good story too :) music is power too!!

[ElvenPath]

Wrong subforum.

-> Fansubs


Thread moved

[ati]

Hello everyone I'm a new member nice to meet you by the way I saw " yami to boushi to hon no tabibito" I think it's good series ,about the story I think it's little wire but the anime is beautiful and there're something to make you think ,this anime continute story by the girl name Hatsuki, she have to find her elder sister but she's not her real sister ,Hatsuki fall in love with Hatsumi so she start her jouney with another girl name Riris and some kind like a chicken to go to the world in the other books, I think you should try to see it may be you like it.
Acually I did't get some point from this series example I don't know about Hatsumi 's feeling how does she feel about Hatsuki until the end of this anime, if anyone saw it and know about the point of this anime please give me your opinion thanks you very much

[xxziggybitsxx]

Hello everyone I'm a new member nice to meet you by the way I saw " yami to boushi to hon no tabibito" I think it's good series ,about the story I think it's little wire but the anime is beautiful and there're something to make you think ,this anime continute story by the girl name Hatsuki, she have to find her elder sister but she's not her real sister ,Hatsuki fall in love with Hatsumi so she start her jouney with another girl name Riris and some kind like a chicken to go to the world in the other books, I think you should try to see it may be you like it.
Acually I did't get some point from this series example I don't know about Hatsumi 's feeling how does she feel about Hatsuki until the end of this anime, if anyone saw it and know about the point of this anime please give me your opinion thanks you very much


hmm the anime sounds very intresting... keep it uploaded if u can.. i would like to download it... thanks :D

[ElvenPath]

YtBtHnT was subbed so thread moved to Fansubs.

[CelestiaLegends]

Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito is actually one of my fravorite series. The ending is absolutely great, in a really wierd way :P and the OP is awsome as well. I'm glad someone restarted a YtBtHt thread ^_^ it deserves more attention. Hope you enjoy it!

[nak]

Wasnt it made from a hentai game? Or so it says in the opening of the fansub i got. In any cause the story is very interesting and the characters are so cute.

I love animes that can change scenery and rhythm since they travel around alot, from what i can see. Still workin on trying to get it all seen though..im a lil behind. T_T

[kj1980]

Hello everyone I'm a new member nice to meet you by the way I saw " yami to boushi to hon no tabibito" I think it's good series ,about the story I think it's little wire but the anime is beautiful and there're something to make you think ,this anime continute story by the girl name Hatsuki, she have to find her elder sister but she's not her real sister ,Hatsuki fall in love with Hatsumi so she start her jouney with another girl name Riris and some kind like a chicken to go to the world in the other books, I think you should try to see it may be you like it.
Acually I did't get some point from this series example I don't know about Hatsumi 's feeling how does she feel about Hatsuki until the end of this anime, if anyone saw it and know about the point of this anime please give me your opinion thanks you very much

It was a modest series that supposedly gives out a happy ending, although


Hatsuki's masturbating sequence was very ( *´Д` )=3
Gargantua's story was a bit disappointing
All in all, the ending felt a bit rushed with Hatsuki eating a hotcake that Hatsumi had left behind.

There were many ｷﾀ━━━( ﾟ∀ﾟ )━━━ ！！！！！！ shots that were very moe~...
but to tell you the truth, the ero-game was much better (even though the ero-game itself didn't sell that well either)

[sparrow]

that hide-and-seek between both of them had a really depressing feel about how Hazuki loved her sister yet can't express it well. For the feelings alone, be it one of the best (other factors not included)

[CelestiaLegends]

yeah, the garuguanchua...seemed a bit like they just stuck him and ritsuko together :P he didn't seem like he had any feelings for her at all. But the Ep. 12's scene where Hitsuki's crying was very touching, and ep. 13 was head-splittingly confusing...but I loved the series =) need to learn japanese to play the game...

[rayearth]

If you got questions about yamibou, use the search function to look for older yamibou threads. Lots and lots and lots of questions about this series (while it was running and after it finished) has been answered in them, so you might find it faster to find answers there.

[Keitaro]

Here's a huge thread all about this series.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=648&highlight=tabibito

[ati]

thanks for your advise

[dreamless]

It's one of the better recent anime series, I like it a lot.

[CelestiaLegends]

=) It's really good...but there's something strage about it that I can't quite put words on :P it's a feeling. I wonder if that makes sense.

[ati]

I really love this series however I don't like the ending .First time when I saw Hatsumi I think she very cute and she have something to make you will love and find her however when I saw the end I feel disapoint about her cause if she know she can stay in the same world more than 16 years why she have to come to be part of people lift in their world and then she leave them alone at last and I don't know how she feel about Hatsuki did she love Hatsuki or not ?
About Hatsuki I like this charector because she try very hard to find Hatsumi and eventhough Hatsumi will love her or not she just want to stay with Hatsumi but in the end she can not live with her .Actually I don't think Hatsuki happy with this way because in the morning when she wake up and eat hot cake she cry and don't know why ,I think she still sad about it but she can remember everything ,in my opinion I think may be she want to remember Hatsumi even she can be together by the way in the last of this series Hatsumi still want to make trouble for someone again you will see when she said she will start her jouney again Oh I can't believe it she don't know she make someone pain and suffer from her action . This series is very good cause it make me feel like go in the dream and pull me back in the real world in the end (and it 's the world that I want to be)
however I still like this series even it's not happy ending :)
Do you think this series can be license in Usa

[dreamless]

I absolutely love the ending to this series. And no it's definitely NOT a happy ending, it's a bittersweet ending, and I LOVE bittersweet endings ;)

[CelestiaLegends]

hehe I know what you mean, I loved the ending too :)

And whoa...Hayase VS Haruka...very nice sig =)

[The Yellow Dwarf]

It was a modest series that supposedly gives out a happy ending, although


Hatsuki's masturbating sequence was very ( *´Д` )=3
Gargantua's story was a bit disappointing
All in all, the ending felt a bit rushed with Hatsuki eating a hotcake that Hatsumi had left behind.

There were many ｷﾀ━━━( ﾟ∀ﾟ )━━━ ！！！！！！ shots that were very moe~...
but to tell you the truth, the ero-game was much better (even though the ero-game itself didn't sell that well either)

XD yeah, that scene with Hatsuki is pretty steamy, and probably the only high point of the entire series for me. If I didn't see that side of hers, the "boku"-touting Aoyama Motoko would be more boring than boring. I am a sucker for forbidden and obsessive love, but we rarely get to see that from the ice-cold Hatsuki. Other than her obsession over Hatsumi she's got zero personality. :(

Really though, the ending seems really wishy-washy compared to all the girlXgirl action sprinkled throughout the series. I can understand why the producers wouldn't want to come out with a tear-jerker ending like Millenium Actress or a happy ending like Kanon, but the way the did things seemed to cheapen a lot of scenes in previous episodes to little more than fanservice.

Also, anybody else found it hilarious that in the fifth episode during a scene between Hatsuki and Kuiru, the camera pans out to show two lily flowers? My jaws dropped when i saw that. :heh:

[Tiamat's Disciple]

Well, i couldnt find an existing post for this, so i started one :P

Oh my god what a weird show!!!

I finally made it through all the episodes and i now have a blinding headache hehehe

I loved the series, and i may watch it again, if i ever want to torture myself :)

Definatly up in my top 10 weird anime. Still trying to figure out how she got pregnant from a kiss in the end >.< but thats anime for ya hehehe

[slak_guy]

Definatly up in my top 10 weird anime. Still trying to figure out how she got pregnant from a kiss in the end >.< but thats anime for ya hehehe


...you better see the anime again, cuz you got that part wrong :dots:

[krusher]

it's probably the best anime ever made

[Tiamat's Disciple]

it's probably the best anime ever made

nah KGNE is the best :) followed by Da Capo, Kanon and Kono Mini in hoint second :P

I do like this one, but as the intor says its very easy to get confused with whats going on, mistake i made was probably watching it in dribs and drabs. Next weekend i think i'll watch the entire thing through all together.

[Fon]

Anime Official Site:

http://www.avexmode.jp/animation/yamibou/yamibou.html

The Original Game Official Site

http://www.orbit-soft.com/product/root/yami/yami_main.html

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I think Yami is the first anime that describe GL(girl love=lesbian) so clear.It is really fantastic :)

The process about Hatsuki chasing Hatsumi is some how like fairy tale "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland".The main roles jump from a world to another world,from a scene to another scene.

[Timeless Enigma]

I'm pretty confused just from episode 1. All of a sudden the blonde disappears and then there's all this talk about Eve??? WTF.

[Kensuke]

I'm pretty confused just from episode 1. All of a sudden the blonde disappears and then there's all this talk about Eve??? WTF.

It gets worst after that, or better, depending from your point of view. Its very confusing and this may seems episodic series, but in the end there is a story, it just took me a while to figure it out... I enjoyed most of the series and I loved the ending.

[Timeless Enigma]

So this series requires a rewatch or some reflective thinking to get it? Hm...

I'm not clear on a couple of things that are keeping me from even getting the jist of it...

1. Hatsumi disappears, then Hazuki means Ken-chan, and then they go to a different world. I thought Hazuki went to search for Hatsumi, but now she's looking for Eve? Or is Hatsumi Eve? We're not even told this.

2. Who is the blonde that has the hat? Her name is Lilith, but I don't even recall an introduction.

3. And the most important question... WTF is going on? (I don't expect an answer, I suspect I'll find out soon enough)

I only started watching this anme because many people compared it to this autumn's Kannaduki no Miko, and that it was a "timeless classic" (I know that was an exaggeration). But my mind is simply boggled.

EDIT: Nevermind about who Lilith... or Ririsu is, I understand. But now I'm starting to wonder if this series is told in chronological order. Ririsu meets Hazuki in episode 2, acting like they've already met, but then in episode 3 they've met for the first time. I guess the answer is obvious... I need to get some aspirin now... my head hurts.

[Shinova]

So this series requires a rewatch or some reflective thinking to get it? Hm...

I'm not clear on a couple of things that are keeping me from even getting the jist of it...

1. Hatsumi disappears, then Hazuki means Ken-chan, and then they go to a different world. I thought Hazuki went to search for Hatsumi, but now she's looking for Eve? Or is Hatsumi Eve? We're not even told this.


Hatsumi is Eve. Eve is her real name. Hatsumi is the name she used in Hazuki's world.


2. Who is the blonde that has the hat? Her name is Lilith, but I don't even recall an introduction.

The blonde is Lilith, yes. She's Eve's older sister, and the two of them are basically God, with the capital G, of the Yamibou multiverse, from what I see. There's a small explanation at the beginning of everyone MnT


3. And the most important question... WTF is going on? (I don't expect an answer, I suspect I'll find out soon enough)

I only started watching this anme because many people compared it to this autumn's Kannaduki no Miko, and that it was a "timeless classic" (I know that was an exaggeration). But my mind is simply boggled.



Keep watching. As things progress you'll start to get the gist of what's going on (I understood it from the first episode right off the bat, actually, but I'm special. :D )



Basically Eve has ditched her duty as guardian of the Library---handing the hat down to Lilith---and has gone off on a personal journey throughout the multiverse. Every world she visits, she picks a fake name, like Hatsumi, and lives life there. At her 16th birthday she disappears and moves on to a new world. Or if she "dies" like in episode 3, she moves on as well.

What Eve is basically, is what the translation's been calling "super souma" or "chouma" or something I can't recall. Basically, the ultimate power in the cosmos, aka God. She's immortal, can't die, and can create or destroy worlds if she wishes (as Lilith sort of demonstrates in one ep, where she gives Gargantua a world of his own).

Lilith has those powers too, and it seems whoever is wearing the hat at the moment is the one in control of things. So Eve was the original guardian of the library, which holds all the worlds in existence as books, until she went off on her little joyride (which lasted at least some tens of thousands of years, IIRC) and Lilith ended up having to take care of things while she was gone.

Eve only stops her quest at ep 10-13 once she realizes that her joyride has displaced certain people from their natural worlds (ie Gargantua and Hazuki) and disrupted some order of things. She retakes her station as guardian of the Library and wears the hat again.

In the end, because Hazuki loved Eve so much, and perhaps Eve in return, Eve makes it---or prophecizes---that Eve will "incarnate" as Hazuki's child, so that they can be reunited again, at least for a while.


*whew*


Personally I loved this series. I hope you get to understnad things better after a second viewing. :)

[Shinova]

EDIT: Nevermind about who Lilith... or Ririsu is, I understand. But now I'm starting to wonder if this series is told in chronological order. Ririsu meets Hazuki in episode 2, acting like they've already met, but then in episode 3 they've met for the first time. I guess the answer is obvious... I need to get some aspirin now... my head hurts.


Yes, the series jumps around a bit. They only stick to a rough chronological order, but everything else is kinda jumpy.


I guess they're trying to drive home the point that time is a meaningless construct in regards to Yamibou, or something.

[dreamless]

Yup, ep3 is where they first meet, there's a fast forward from the first part of ep1 and the night train part of ep1. the chronological order should be Hatsuki in her home in ep1 -> Hatsuki meets Lilith in ep3 -> Hatsuki on night train in ep1, I think. There is also that Hatsuki/Hatsumi episode which the entire episode is a flashback...

[Timeless Enigma]

Well, I've finished this series. I'm scratching my head a lot less now. I don't really think it was well done considering it depended on having the viewer play the game. Kind of like watching a sequel without seeing the prequel.

It was a good series, but without Miyuki's generous explanation starting from the beginning of episode 2, I likely would have stopped watching.

EDIT: What's the deal is Hatsuki's leg being perpetually loosely bandaged? Is that explained in the game?

[catcat]

if i remember correctly, the loose bandages around Hatsuki's leg are the same bandages Hatsumi had around her wrist when Hatsuki cut Hatsumi's wrist in ep 1. i might be wrong though...it's been a while.

[Kempis Curious]

There is also that Hatsuki/Hatsumi episode which the entire episode is a flashback...

Woo yeah, where Hatsuki listens in on Eve using the toilet, and then does a (ahem) six minute workout?

Hell yeah! :D Very clever of the animators to be able to depict such a perversion without making it "ew, yuck!" hentai. I liked that anime.

-k

curious

[Wandering_Youth]

Wow, it's been so long since I watched this anime and I just watched it because I loved Carnalian's work. It was a memorable anime like a "Alice in Wonderland" kind of story so it's pretty good anime, imo.

[Bloodseeker]

Just downloaded this at random and... damn, the video quality is bugging the hell out of me. I feel like I'm watching it on Youtube or something... or at least like I'm using VirtualDubMod to watch it on DVD. It glitches every time there's more than just a bit of movement. Does Miyuki ever pick up the video quality or at all?

Edit: Wow, this fansub sucks. I found a few grammar errors, went to use VirtualDubMod to take screencaps so that I could gripe about them later, only to have VDM shut down on me every time that I scanned over the episode. WTF?! That's especially bad because this show already has some good screencap material...

Edit #2: That's better. Thanks to a bit of research and some help, I managed to get passed VDM problem. And I haven't noticed any more blaring grammar errors since then, either. Video quality is still meh, though.

I like this show so far. Not great, but it doesn't seem like its going to be six hours of my life that I'm going to want back, either.

[Bloodseeker]

Just finished it.

The video quality seemed to get better when I wasn't paying attention... or maybe I just got used to it. The fansub was actually alright. I liked that they explained the backstory.

Most of the cast was meh. It wasn't like Lain where I wanted to strangle the whole lot of them, but I didn't really care about them one way or the other. Eve really didn't have much of a character beyond being some generic innocent benevolent divine being. At least she looked cute. Ken-chan wasn't really funny (as hard as he tried) or cute like mascots characters should be. Hatsuki... nothing wrong with her, I just didn't care about her. Gargantua just sucked. He had the stupid Shinji Matou haircut, and those dumb poses and annoying henchmen.

I was really hoping that he would get killed off, but instead he got a happy ending. :mad:

The only regular Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito (damn that's a long title) that I liked was Ririsu. (looks like she might be known as Lilith in some other fansubs) Meirin (the first foxgirl) should have been a regular too. They were cute. Why would Ririsu have trouble getting a guy again? I'd take someone like her over someone like Eve any day.

The fights in this series were crap (I was hoping that Hatsuki was about to go Samurai Champloo on those samurai and ninjas... that would have made me like her a lot more), but that didn't seem to be a primary focus anyways.

Overall though, I did enjoy this show. Its one of those series that's not particularly action packed, funny (though I did laugh a few times), crazy, dramatic, or deep, nor does it have a particularly strong story (though the backstory is well built and the concepts are good), but it still manages to always be mildly entertaining.

6.8/10

[Potatochobit]

the show was ok, but my gosh do i love the yuri fan service in all the fan creations and game CG's :love:

[tritoch]

Hmm.. Think of this series this way..

You have a fairytale book with different stories and different worlds. Our heroine with the sword comes from a particular story in that book. Now what if that girl jumps out of that book and turned a page and jumped in.. what you get? Yami to boushi. Its only confusing since you only get segments of the real story until ofcourse the last 2 episodes where it hits you bad.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Wow. Glad to see this topic raise it's head again.

As for the video quality, don't think of the entire show as having bad video quality. In truth it's video quality is nothing short of stunning. The fansubs just crunch it down a lot. Xvid wasn't very well accepted or known at the time it came out. If you can find a raw or garagesub that wasn't compressed poorly, or better yet somehow get a chance to see the DVDs, you'll be amazed. It's visuals can run neck-and-neck with even modern series.

And yeah, Ririsu is awesome. She ranks #1 in many of my perverse-related ":best character" categories, such as "Favourite body" "Coolest costume" "Best witchgirl" and "biggest hat"

Tho I think it's moreso that she'd have trouble finding a guy that'd meet her standards. She seems to be exceptionally opened minded about those things, and those types never get to learn what true love really is. She just confuses it with feelings like dependance and pride.

[Bloodseeker]

Not being able find someone that meets her high standards being the problem would suggest that Ririsu would be the one that's doing the dumping. Ririsu's reaction when she thought that Gargantua had a crush on her and the way that Aaya reacted when she left Gargantua's world suggested that she's usually the one that gets dumped.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Well, regarding that, would you want to date a girl who could trap you in a whatsit crystal if you made her made? Or worse yet, just because she felt like it?

Also, some people just take a "flirt for life" policy and live for thrills.

<shrugs>

[Cyz]

This anime is confusing. So it's made up of different stories no? But somehow, I can't seem to grasp the main idea. Well, the ending is fine and all but it's somehow open ended IMO.

[guiltygearxt]

It is confusing, i think u really have 2 play the game 2 understand most of it

but nonetheless this is 1 of my fav animes

how do i put this, its got great fairy tales

[mickal555]

Uh,

Just saw this animae, and my brain is fried.

I can't even work out if I like it or not!!

Waaah!

[Pengu]

Well, it was a weird anime. Not ever going to understand everything, but it was pretty good still. I was a bit sad Hatsuki was lesbian since she was my favourite character. And the thing that confuses me most is that hatsuki is without a doubt a lesbian and still she is going to have a child that is Hatsumi...

Thank god not many animes have homo undertones. Just brings chills down my spine for some reason. This one never got that far -puh-

[Bloodseeker]

*seeing screencaps of Touko Gettan episode 14 reminds him of this show*

You know, on the afterthought, the center of attention almost always being focused on one of the two worst characters in the show really did limit YtBtHnT...

Most of the concepts were excellent.
The setting was great.
One of the three leads always managed to be at least mildly entertaining (I'm referring to Ririsu, of course), as did some of the minor characters.
Some of the female character designs were pretty hot.

If it weren't for the protagonist being Ms. Generic McBoring (I don't see why she has a fanbase... the quiet badass that prefers to talk with their actions alone and shuts off his/her noisy tag-along has been done a billion times before, it isn't a particularly likable archetype by itself (though some characters that share that trait i.e. Guts do it in such a way that it becomes a likable part of their character and have other qualities that make them awesome), and she doesn't really have any qualities that set her apart from the crowd) and the antagonist being one of the lamest anime bad guys ever, I probably would have enjoyed this show a lot more.

I was initially thinking that Ririsu deserves to be a better anime, but when I think about it, the anime just deserves a better protagonist and a better antagonist.

[Xellos-_^]

*seeing screencaps of Touko Gettan episode 14 reminds him of this show*

You know, on the afterthought, the center of attention almost always being focused on one of the two worst characters in the show really did limit YtBtHnT...

Most of the concepts were excellent.
The setting was great.
One of the three leads always managed to be at least mildly entertaining (I'm referring to Ririsu, of course), as did some of the minor characters.
Some of the female character designs were pretty hot.

If it weren't for the protagonist being Ms. Generic McBoring (I don't see why she has a fanbase... the quiet badass that prefers to talk with their actions alone and shuts off his/her noisy tag-along has been done a billion times before, it isn't a particularly likable archetype by itself (though some characters that share that trait i.e. Guts do it in such a way that it becomes a likable part of their character and have other qualities that make them awesome), and she doesn't really have any qualities that set her apart from the crowd) and the antagonist being one of the lamest anime bad guys ever, I probably would have enjoyed this show a lot more.

I was initially thinking that Ririsu deserves to be a better anime, but when I think about it, the anime just deserves a better protagonist and a better antagonist.


I like Hazuki, somehow i always got a thing for girls with swords :D Althought i wish she has more of a chance to use it.

[Dop]

Gosh. Well. After a gap of a few weeks I finally sat down and finished this series by watching the last four episodes in a row.
Gaah. Brane go boom....

Actually, it just feels like a bit of a downer really. Poor Hatsuki, after all her adventures.
I feel kind of stunned.

[Xellos-_^]

I am hoping Hazuki would find her way back to the Infinite Library one of these days.

A Threesome is always then a Twosome.

[Deathkillz]

Brain frying seems like a good way to describe this series. But deep down inside me I know this will be one of those special series you meet once a year (if lucky) and it will always remain a gem in my heart. *loops full OP/ED*

Yep I just managed to finish this long forgotten series and have seen a new light. This format of smashing down a plot and presenting it in a totally confusing order is just something I love these days! And while I didn’t find it at all that confusing a lot of other people is sure to think that way :heh:. The story was well planned and the conclusion was done in the most conclusive way it ever can be done for a series like this in fact it was just heart breaking to see how well it concluded. From what I can see there isn’t any loose end that hasn’t been tied down. All the mini adventures was concluded nicely and even left room for imagination to incur (a la Gargantua and Ritsuko). I guess the only one I didn’t quite get what happened in the end was Seiren.

Even I was trying to hold back the tears of joy and sorrow seeing Hazuki getting her first and last kiss from Hatsumi then a memory wipe. It is both cruel and tragic that you are no longer able to remember the one you love and for Hazuki who’s life depended on Hatsumi being there I am sure those tears while she was eating those pancakes where from her deep down memories that can never be erased. Meaningful? Dam right it is! This is the type of depth and angst I enjoy watching in pyjamas with a box of tissues besides me. The dramatic impact is poetic!
The whole series consisted of many mini adventures but the story of Gargantua and Ritsuko overlapped with other worlds and is considered the second largest full plot besides Hazuki’s. That guy was a total wacko and poor Ritsuko had to suffer for it. The problem with Gargantua is his selfishness as a child. He is a spoilt brat to say the least and just like how your little brothers and sisters would act they would take you stuff and throw and tantrum if they don’t get it. Even at that young age Gargantua realized that he was captivated by this strange being that was able to revive the things that he killed on purpose. This soon led to him wanting to desire this mysterious phenomenon which lead to the death of someone he admired, killed by his own hands.

Well he does get power but it’s not enough for him. He desires the power of Eve! This leads to him screwing around like an idiot (well his personality gets totally raped to the max once he received his castle ~ it reminded me of Papillion from busou renkin to be honest :heh:) and killing off a princess. AH! This is another confusing point, Gargantua effectively caused Mariel’s death but later on it seems that she was an offering to Ririsu, another point left unexplained why she needed someone dead. But in any case this nutcase was extremely confused by his own feelings and was only opened up to see the light near the end of the series. But a part of me thinks that he deserves a happy ending for finally realizing his mistakes and you should allow a guy to amend for his sins.

Ririsu is an interesting person I must say. She is what I would call the “kid who doesn’t grow up” type of girl but funnily enough she seems mere immortal at times. Nothing bad ever happens to her an even so she turns the situation around to suit her case. I mean back to the caveman arc she was more than happy to be a sacrifice for Hazuki and her “please eat phrase” containing a double meaning was comical XD. But really her aim was pretty much the same as Hazuki’s; to find Eve so I guess it was a temporary partnership though it is evident from the end that she does worry about Hazuki’s well being. Her role is simple to travel with Hazuki and act as the transport while Hazuki does the hard work :heh: I am most fascinated by Ririsu’s bi polar feelings towards females and males alike (yep she is heterosexual), no shame? I just love her grunts and moans which is a compliment to the seiyuu: Sanae Kobayashi ^__^ a truly amazing seiyuu who brought out Ririsu’s childish personality to full.

And finally I guess I’ll talk about Hazuki, the main heroine of the story. Her obsession with Hatsumi is noting to me ashamed of to be honest (*flies the yuri flag* :D). But for someone with such a strict and honourable personality it does indeed seem that she is unable to get over this taboo fact that she loves Hatsumi. She wants to hug and embrace Hatsumi but knows that this would crush her relationship with the sister she loves so much. Not knowing the feelings of Hatsumi who has always been there for her ever since they were young it is just dam ironic that those love letters were sent by Hatsumi…

They feel the same way about each other and in their own way admires each other from afar. So the kiss in the end holds a real dear and special meaning to me. Like a bird released from a cage, they are allowed to express themselves for that short period of time so in a way it is a long wish/desire fulfilled.

While the relationship should have ended there and then I guess Hazuki made such an impact on Eve that she decided to be reborn in the same book again, as Hazuki’s child. I suspect that this is the first that has ever happened, to be born in the same book twice, seen as Eve usually travels from book to book. Moving back a step means that even she wants to see Hazuki once more because she is not allowed to properly see her after that mind erase.

As I said at the start this series is something special. The story telling is awesome as well as being thoughtful. Enjoying series which requires you to use some head just like this is a reason why I am still watching Touka Gettan. I just find these types of stories enjoyable if done properly and the end result of having travelling a long journey with the characters you do feel attached. This is so much more so than any cheap harem series can ever make me attached. Saying goodbye is painful and especially to a series like which with its perfect conclusion there really isn’t much more hope that it being a one off series. But no matter as I still love every bit of it ;). And the twist on the end is just beautiful. Seeing that hint that the great library is also in its own book really gives the whole universe a new perspective. The mysterious Arya being the narrator and closing the book of the great library himself then getting up in a desert like place really did magnify the scope to no end. *applauds for the thoughtfulness*

[Shana]

^ Long :heh:

One of my favorite series :D and I was too lazy to search the thread :rolleyes:

But deep down inside me I know this will be one of those special series you meet once a year (if lucky) and it will always remain a gem in my heart.

Yeah, you are right. This is the only series who brokes my heart (Okay, maybe not broke :heh: but I totally loved this one).

This is a joy of anime so far, good animation, good scenary, good story. When I saw first episode maybe as one year or so, I get a impression who any other anime gaves me. I know about Yuri chracters who don't have mind about what the society will say, but OMG, Hatsuki don't mind and that, and don't mind at the thing they are sisters.

Hatsumi is too egoist, at least to me, she don't mind at Hatsuki's feelings, Lilith's feelings or Garugantua's feelings (well, he don't have to be in the list :heh:). She adapts to a source, her egoism do something bad and she rans out to other place.

Lilith's character is one of the best of the series so far. She always mades me laught with her "Hatsuki-chan~" and that book of the beach :naughty: ~ She's not independient, so that gives her a Lovely Imouto-chan taste :p.

This series is my favorite so far ~ with a maybe-happy-ending, why is a MHE? becouse I want a Yuri ending, and Hatsumi says to Hatsuki what she won't be with her on that moment, but her (Hatsuki) will recreate her as her draughter, and Hatsuki needs to be a wife of someone to have a child, and that's not a Yuri ending. This series made me cry, laught and get out of my world and go to that Librery :)

~ really, my favorite anime so far. And so bad not too much people watch/like it ~ it is a bit rare to see it isn't licensed... ~

[mickal555]

I'll say that while I loved the OP I hated the ED.

[Tiberium Wolf]

Man! I have only discovered this anime because shinsen-subs is releasing it now. I wonder why I haven't watched it in 2003 when it aired. It's unbelievable that I have missed such anime in the 1st place. I usually pay attention to all anime released but this one I never heard of it until now.

[Shana]

^ Really? Thanks! Nice timing, Shinsen-subs; I was going to re-download and re-watch the series

[Dop]

I watched the series a few months ago (scroll up a bit and you'll see), and I've been downloading Shinsen-subs' new releases as they've got a much better image quality than the subs I had before.

I wonder if the connected episode of Touka Gettan brought this series back to mind?

[Tiberium Wolf]

ZOMG.... more 3 eps today... DL DL DL...:D

[Tiberium Wolf]

OK... I have watched all the 13 eps. It was worth it. I liked everything. It's been long that I had watched, a series I liked, all in a few days.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Yes, thanks Shinsen. Get. I loved Touka Gettan, so I'm eager to see Yamibou. The two anime are basically by the same staff: director, writer, animation director, character designers, sound director.

[Tiberium Wolf]

They from the same staff?

Well I didn't get interested in touka gettan.