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felicityfish
2003-11-10, 11:16
Will "Hikaru no Go" continue be released?
It is about 1 year that the ep.10 has been released.
:confused:
ElvenPath
2003-11-10, 11:19
Did you check this thread?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=324
felicityfish
2003-11-10, 11:32
Did you check this thread?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=324
em~ I've read that before....
but I'm just wondoring the fansub group had given up the project or not.
Actually is has been 7 months since the last episode (75) released. It used to be considered licensed but it was a mistake. If you want episodes beyond those seeded by AnimeTorrents you may need to use other resources such as IRC and ed2k.
You are _so_ helpful AST. Really.
All of HnG has been subbed. I don't know what's happening with the license. Last I heard, only the manga was licensed and the anime license was a misunderstanding.
There was a thread back in the original forums when the earlier HnG episodes were put back as torrents. Basically, if I remember correctly, you'll have to wait till AT gets to that point.
Edit - Why were my words in white? :p
White_Rabbit
2004-01-04, 17:32
well this is somehow related to this thread. I was just wandering when in the serie i should wacth those 2 special eps or does it really matter?
The special takes place after the series ends. This thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=1852) talks a bit more about it :) (Beware of spoilers some insensitive people have put up though)
well this is somehow related to this thread. I was just wandering when in the serie i should wacth those 2 special eps or does it really matter?
Are you talking about the Specials (the torrent was just released today). We have a little more info about them on the Hikaru no Go torrents (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1.html) page.
If so, then as far as I'm aware the New Year Special fits between eps 12 and 13. The Special Edition is a variant of ep 64 (I have no idea why it is called a Special Edition, it may be a parody version for all I know). There is also a 22 second untranslated clip of Umezawa Yukari (she is the Go sensei normally featured at the end of each episode).
I think the answer ato gave relates to the (new, unaired) Special we are expecting soon.
Ookla The Mok
2004-01-04, 21:52
The new 90-minute special was aired this past Saturday. I watched it. It follows the manga pretty closely to the end of the Hokuto Cup selection tournament.
The episode 64 variant--originally this episode was made before the series started, for Jump Festa, like the Naruto special. Then Hotta Yumi used the story for her Sai sidestory in volume 18. And then they remade it slightly into episode 64 of the anime.
Well..... I thought HNG was licensed also so I went ahead and bought the dvd set!
SIGH!!! Oh! Well! it was worth it!! excellent series..... maybe I should have waited for the specials?
DrWho2002
2004-01-05, 17:42
There is no DVD set for HnG, unless you went and bought bootlegs, in which case you've just thrown your money away. Plus those DVD's probably wouldn't have the specials either.
There is no DVD set for HnG, unless you went and bought bootlegs, in which case you've just thrown your money away. Plus those DVD's probably wouldn't have the specials either.
Edit by Mod (xris) Link to bootleg anime removed. Sorry this is a pirate copy
OK! buddy... if you don't believe me then heres the link! If this is a bootleg.... then its a pretty damn good one! Its imported and the translations are excellent!!! I recommend this company! Nearly, most of my dvd sets are from them and thats quite a large collection! GEEZ.......... I think my money was well spent!!!! as for the special I rather see it first, then purchase it! Sometimes special are not worth it!! For example Fushigi Yugi that was a awsome anime but the specials were so-so! (BTW.. this came with all the specials and then some! ) I could have lived without watching it! You put my panties in a wad!!! :nono:
Several ways to find out if a DVD is a bootleg (at least what I know from the back alleys of Akihabara):
A. If there is a Chinese subtitle and is region free, it is most certainly a bootleg
B. If the English copyright warning on the back has weird English misspellings, it is a bootleg
C. They usually have the same barcode number
DrWho2002
2004-01-05, 19:10
OK! buddy... if you don't believe me then heres the link! If this is a bootleg.... then its a pretty damn good one! Its imported and the translations are excellent!!! I recommend this company! Nearly, most of my dvd sets are from them and thats quite a large collection! GEEZ.......... I think my money was well spent!!!! as for the special I rather see it first, then purchase it! Sometimes special are not worth it!! For example Fushigi Yugi that was a awsome anime but the specials were so-so! (BTW.. this came with all the specials and then some! ) I could have lived without watching it! You put my panties in a wad!!! :nono:
The link you posted sells bootlegs for Hikaru no Go. They're all bootlegs in that link. Just because it's imported doesn't mean it's legit. Your money has all gone to thieves and criminals and nothing went to the creators of the anime you like so much. How does that make you feel?
Dark Zero
2004-01-05, 19:13
The link you posted sells bootlegs for Hikaru no Go. They're all bootlegs in that link. Just because it's imported doesn't mean it's legit. Your money has all gone to thieves and criminals and nothing went to the creators of the anime you like so much. How does that make you feel?
How do you feel d/ling anime instead of buying it rather then give money to its creators? :D
HA! see............................ Buddy, don't start with me!!! what I do with my money is my business! and to stay on topic HnK l liked the series so much so I bought it!
HA! see............................ Buddy, don't start with me!!!
Cammie, you have purchased a bootleg, you will have to accept it. It's up to you how you decide to spend your money, you can give it away to bootleggers or help support the hobby you enjoy by purchasing the official releases.
Can we please stop this argument now!
if that special ends just before the north star cup, then there's probably a huge chance that it'll get another special or ova or something that'll conclude the tournament and the series.. sounds good
So have any groups decided to sub this HnG special?
i think there will be 3 in total, the one we saw, one with them training and a bit of the hokuto cup, and the last part of the tournament.
Ookla The Mok
2004-01-08, 04:38
i think there will be 3 in total, the one we saw, one with them training and a bit of the hokuto cup, and the last part of the tournament.
I think they might fit a movie in there to finish things off.
It's a pity that the "un-animeified" part of the manga is (or at least is said to be) of a lower quality than the part that went to make the series. I guess that finding an interesting continuation to the story of Hikaru is a bit problematic.
On the other hand, HnG is one of the best series when it comes to interesting side characters. A lot of them could warrant an episode or two in their own right (and indeed, Izumi got thee episodes, if I remember correctly). The last episode contained brief flashes of their lifes, and that was one of the great kicks in the whole series, as I remember it :)
Eh, time to stop ranting and raving perhaps. My point is that I'm clutching onto the hope of spin-off series (Kaga no Shogi, anyone? ;) ) By the way, is there anywhere one might read up on the mangaka that drew HnG? In English preferrably, hehe.
jacks81x
2004-01-08, 13:32
It's a pity that the "un-animeified" part of the manga is (or at least is said to be) of a lower quality than the part that went to make the series. I guess that finding an interesting continuation to the story of Hikaru is a bit problematic.
On the other hand, HnG is one of the best series when it comes to interesting side characters. A lot of them could warrant an episode or two in their own right (and indeed, Izumi got thee episodes, if I remember correctly). The last episode contained brief flashes of their lifes, and that was one of the great kicks in the whole series, as I remember it :)
Eh, time to stop ranting and raving perhaps. My point is that I'm clutching onto the hope of spin-off series (Kaga no Shogi, anyone? ;) ) By the way, is there anywhere one might read up on the mangaka that drew HnG? In English preferrably, hehe.
The whole manga's been translated for a while now. I'm sure you can find it on IRC or just search for it on google.
If anybody has definitive information on whether either of the fansub groups is going to be picking up the special, I would love to hear it.
It's a pity that the "un-animeified" part of the manga is (or at least is said to be) of a lower quality than the part that went to make the series. I guess that finding an interesting continuation to the story of Hikaru is a bit problematic.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I enjoyed the part of the manga that has not yet been animated. Also, I thought it left ample room for the series to go a lot of different directions. If you particularly liked the character of Sai, then it might be something of a letdown, of course. But for me, if the series has Hikaru the protaganist in it, then that's good enough.
isumi, not izumi, theres a big difference :). Yes its nice to see an anime with interesting characters.
I got all 75 eps plus the specials off an FTP. It got closed though. You need a login now.
The whole manga's been translated for a while now. I'm sure you can find it on IRC or just search for it on google.
Or else, since it is licensed, I can wait until it's in paper form and *gasp* buy it with actual money! Radical, ain't I?
I got all 75 eps plus the specials off an FTP. It got closed though. You need a login now.
Well, anyone interested in watching HnG could of course look up this page (http://animetorrents.com/bittorrent/download/#43) (as pointed to by AnimeSuki of course). Me, I'm on my second viewing, so I should perhaps bring it up in the "Rewatch" thread :)
Ooops, Isumi it is. I stand corrected :heh: But in any case, I am hoping for some kind of continuation of the series. Well, well, time will tell.
I've seen this on mircx:
[YoumaOtakus]_Hikaru_no_Go_Special_[745B9593].avi
but the torrent seems to have no seeds. It's the real thing or not?
Edit here's the torrent page:
http://www.spike-domain.net/koro/bt/
Here, the tracker shows 4 seeds.
Might be interesting... At least I have heard of no HnG episodes by that group before. Do report back when you have tried it out :)
I've seen this on mircx:
[YoumaOtakus]_Hikaru_no_Go_Special_[745B9593].avi
but the torrent seems to have no seeds. It's the real thing or not?
Edit here's the torrent page:
http://www.spike-domain.net/koro/bt/
Here, the tracker shows 4 seeds.
I'm pulling the file right now, seeing 5 seeds and ~20 peers, unstable speed (prob the tracker) we should see the result in a couple hours
complich8
2004-01-22, 05:21
So have any groups decided to sub this HnG special?
<information leak>I know aone's planning on a release of it... but I can't promise you when, due to an unforeseen staffing issue. I don't want to elaborate on that, but we'll get it out eventually... </information leak> We're all a bunch of addicts, you see ;)
Kudos to that new group for getting it released before us.
SirCanealot
2004-01-22, 10:08
HA! see............................ Buddy, don't start with me!!!
As Tery Pratchett once said: Three explanation marks = sign of a madman :P
Edit: Just notices above post \o/
Anyway, while we're on the topic, is the by any decent group right now? And does it bring it to the END of the manga? I'm not sure what everyone is saying, so I'd just like a little clarification :)
DrWho2002
2004-01-22, 10:19
This 2004 special doesn't bring the anime to the end of the manga. Youma-Otakus has done a few other things before, although they don't put out very much, but from what I have seen of their work, they're decent.
This 2004 special doesn't bring the anime to the end of the manga. Youma-Otakus has done a few other things before, although they don't put out very much, but from what I have seen of their work, they're decent.
without giving too much detail and this post becomes a spoiler, this is *confirmed* the New Year Special that was just aired earlier this month. The encoding seems solid, and not too bad translation job either, i would recommand it if you really need something to settle that HnG craving!!
potential spoiler, hence....
this new year special mainly cover the Hokuto Cup team selection, it ends with Ochi asking rematch with Yashiro, and the team was finally decided on Yashiro, Hikaru and Akira.....
i believe they are making a sequel to continue the story that' left over from manga, the storyline after this new year special to the end of Hokuto Cup.
Ahhhhh! My need is at least temporarily sated :D
Without spoiling the special, I'll say that you can look forward to some more of the photogenic Umezawa Yukari sensei (all dressed up for the occasion as well) and featuring Hikaru as a narrator voice for the first time ever. Also, expect some really unorthodox play in this episode. So far almost all games from both the anime and the manga have been identified as actial pro games, but I wonder about that one...
At least we can be fairly sure of a continuation of the storyline, as it ends halfway through :)
Hellychan
2004-01-22, 17:21
My point is that I'm clutching onto the hope of spin-off series (Kaga no Shogi, anyone? ;) )
\o/ Yeah me! I'd like to see more of Kaga! :D
Btw ato, I really like your avatar ^_^
Hmmm... Their tracker seems a bit flakey. The domain is showing up as not found.
Well, people seem to be downloading happily from me at least :)
In any case, kudos to YoumaOtakus for subbing this special, and it will be interesting to see aones version when it comes out. HnG always has a massive re-watch value, so I'll be sure to get that one as well, hehe!
Kamui4356
2004-01-23, 16:45
Ahhhhh! My need is at least temporarily sated :D
Without spoiling the special, I'll say that you can look forward to some more of the photogenic Umezawa Yukari sensei (all dressed up for the occasion as well) and featuring Hikaru as a narrator voice for the first time ever. Also, expect some really unorthodox play in this episode. So far almost all games from both the anime and the manga have been identified as actial pro games, but I wonder about that one...
At least we can be fairly sure of a continuation of the storyline, as it ends halfway through :)
How much manga is left after this special? Is there enough to make a another tv season, even if it's just 13 episodes, or just enough for a short ova?
flash008
2004-01-23, 19:39
PLEASE! some help me, i downloaded the file but for some reason i cant play it it said that it's not an avi file what do i do? i really want to watch it, its because of HNG that i started to play Go
Flash008: Ask in the "Playback Help" forum, that's where all the codec gurus hang out ;)
Kamui4356: No, there should not be material for another season if one gies by what is published in manga format. Sadly, I am told that the manga ends after the North Star tournament, so the next special will likely finish up all the remaining material...
Knowing how fans were completely disappointed by the manga's inadequate ending, maybe they will try to end Hikaru no go the anime at a more satisfactory means.
donna8157
2004-01-24, 23:39
what was the manga's ending? did he learn the divine movie?
no, I believe the manga ends at the end of the Hokuto Cup (which i'm not going into detail because potential spoiler) and all of them realize that the World of Go is a rather big place, and there plenty good players out there waiting to be challenged, and to achieve the "Kami no Te" (Hand of God) might take lifelong learning
No. The ending was more like Hikaru cried because he lost. Then in the last 2 pages you have Sai saying, "Can you hear me?" but not to no one in particular.
No. The ending was more like Hikaru cried because he lost. Then in the last 2 pages you have Sai saying, "Can you hear me?" but not to no one in particular.
hehehe, i know... when i read that, i was like: "What the...? but i thought....? wasn't he....? grrh...."
donna8157
2004-01-25, 02:12
No. The ending was more like Hikaru cried because he lost. Then in the last 2 pages you have Sai saying, "Can you hear me?" but not to no one in particular.
Aww . . that's sad. who did Hikaru lose to? Akira? Umm .. yeah .. I can see why it would end like that .. because before Sai left he realized that Shuunsaku's purpose was to help him, his purpose is to help Hikaru, and Hikaru will later help another person ...
Aww . . that's sad. who did Hikaru lose to? Akira?
Hikaru, and the Japan Team over all lost to the Korean team in the Final Round of Hokuto Cup, even though Akira won his match
Umm .. yeah .. I can see why it would end like that .. because before Sai left he realized that Shuunsaku's purpose was to help him, his purpose is to help Hikaru, and Hikaru will later help another person ...
Actually, if you had watched the New Year Special (which is subbed by Youma-Otakus currently), you would get maybe a bit more understanding of the Sai situation, because....
in this special when the preliminary was over, Hikaru and Akira is in the Salon playing and talking, they were talking about how having an opponent is what make the Go fun, and Hikaru mentioned "Maybe the God of Go is lonely because he has no opponent," and one of the elder beside them say "Maybe the God of Go's purpose for existing is to help Go players everywhere, maybe he taught us all go so that someday, there'll be someone good enough to face him"
makes you think don't it? who Sai really is
Considering Sai beat everyone including Akira's father, I think he might be God of Go in some respect.
I just hope that if they do continue Hikaru no go for a few more episodes they will make a much better ending... Anime did go beyond manga before (like Shaman King and Kenshin).
donna8157
2004-01-26, 02:41
that's interesting. .but i dont' think sai is the god of go .. he hasn't mastered the divine move. . =/
Considering Sai beat everyone including Akira's father, I think he might be God of Go in some respect.
I just hope that if they do continue Hikaru no go for a few more episodes they will make a much better ending... Anime did go beyond manga before (like Shaman King and Kenshin).
Sai does not consider himself as the God of Go. What he wanted was to play the hand of god or the divine move of Go.
I just hope that if they do continue Hikaru no go for a few more episodes they will make a much better ending... Anime did go beyond manga before (like Shaman King and Kenshin).
I couldn't agree with you more on that!! but as far as Kenshin, i do believe the anime didn't cover the entire storyline of the manga; the anime didn't go into enishi's storyline, where as the manga put an incredible end to very exciting series
Considering Sai beat everyone including Akira's father, I think he might be God of Go in some respect.
if you put it that way, then I'll think Hikaru would be closer than Sai, let's not forget Hikaru did catch that one important spot to couter Sai and potentially save the Meijin's terratory, when Meijin resigned and Sai was enjoying in the moment....
chamelean75
2004-01-26, 23:23
I really hope that they make another season of Hikaru No Go. However, there hasn't been anyword of any type of continuation of the series. I think that if they did, there is enough stuff to make another season, such as more tournaments, perhaps the return of Sai and the hand of god. It's been awhile since the manga just ended. I don't know how long it takes people to create another season but I think that if they were going to do another season, they probably would have already done so, unless they wanted to finish the anime and then do the series. I don't know if same people who draw the mangas draw the anime too. I hope for the best!!!!
chamelean75
2004-02-01, 22:51
Does anyone know where I can get a complete episode summary of the anime? I mean like episode 18, this is what happens, episode 19, this is what happens.
DrWho2002
2004-02-05, 02:09
I noticed in AonE's version of the special they cut out the Yukari-sensei clips... :(
I noticed in AonE's version of the special they cut out the Yukari-sensei clips... :(
Yea I noticed that too so I went for YoumaOtakus version, Yukari-sensei is the best. :)
Briareos
2004-02-05, 16:37
I noticed in AonE's version of the special they cut out the Yukari-sensei clips... :(*Briareos goes to download the YoumaOtakus version.* I wonder why they did that? Maybe their RAW didn't have the segments?
Sepiraph
2004-02-05, 19:51
To those of u who knows a bit about famous Go players, don't u find it a bit weird that they don't ever mention Go Seigen? Shusaku is generally recognized as the best of the 19th century, and Seigen for the 20th.
Also the idea of the "Hand of God" is unrealistic, since there isn't really a set of perfect moves as your moves really depend on your opponent move as well.
TangentZ
2004-02-06, 01:02
I noticed in AonE's version of the special they cut out the Yukari-sensei clips... :(
I'm glad I got the YoumaOtaku version then. :p I've always watched her and the two students at the end.
How can they cut out her explanation of Shote Tengen (初手天元）!!??
lordlucless
2004-02-06, 01:44
Haha, I was really thrilled when I watched the special, because I had only recently been reading some high-ranked amateurs discussing the pros and cons of a tengen opening. So I could actually follow what they were doing ;p
I don't think the "Hand of God" is a series of special moves. More like an ultimate ability at Go. Having "the Hand of God" is sort of like when you say a gardener has "the green thumb"; it implies excellence in the field.
complich8
2004-02-06, 14:52
Haha, I was really thrilled when I watched the special, because I had only recently been reading some high-ranked amateurs discussing the pros and cons of a tengen opening. So I could actually follow what they were doing ;p
A lot of people I think don't realize that most of the games they're playing now are real pro games. Especially the interesting ones, like the game played out in the OVA.
The actual game hikaru and the other guy played was a match between Yamashita Keigo and Takao Shinji back when they were both 6 dan pros. You can find a kifu of it over on gobase.org if you've got a gobase account (recommended for everyone who likes playing go and wants to get better). Keigo (whose role in the game hikaru was playing) just recently lost his third straight in the Kisei cup finals. He's got to win 4 straight to win the title now. A lot of high dan amateurs and pro commentators were predicting he'd lose the first 3 and then win the next 4 and keep the title, so it could be a pretty interesting game.
Next game is feb 18-19 ... if you're on igs at 10 EST or later on those days, check out the games list, you'll probably see a 9p up at the top broadcasting the title match.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-07, 21:54
Ok someone HELP MEEEEE!!!!!! I just watched up to ep 68 of Hikaru and yes I'm depressed of two things.
One.... I BOUGHT BOOTLEGS and didn't know god damn it because the subtitles were so good... S**T!!!!
Two....
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:
Everytime i think of Sai leaving I cry... even the way he left was sad!!!!!!!!! "Hikaru,... it was fun...." what the f**k!!!!! and to top it all off, I watch on with hopes of all hopes that I'll see Sai again and what do I get.... Hikaru making me even sadder by saying... "I've been looking for him everywhere and he's been in the board all along"....AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!.... I'm so sad but I heard rumours that in the manga ...... Sai comes back and challenges Hikaru
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:
So someone please provide me with some happy spoilers... if not I'm going to die!!!!!!!
TangentZ
2004-04-07, 22:20
If you really want to know the whole story, I suggest you read the manga.
At the very least, watch the 2004 Special. It's very close to the end.
I hope they make a new special to animate the last part of the story. :dots:
No! Don't hurt yourself by reading the manga's ending. Honestly, the anime ending is already 100x better than the manga one. The anime is complete with its ending, the manga is NOT.
And NO, Sai never comes back even in the manga.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-08, 02:39
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: :sad::sad:
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ori!!!! NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're gonna make me cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want Sai back!!!!! Is there anything else that would cheer me up after ep 68 ???? You have got to say there is???? Come on man... I feel F**KED!!!! Awe heck... now I'm back to being depressed... Don't worry Ori... not saying its your fault.... you're not the one who killed my favourite anime character of all time!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Even the bloody pic of Sai in anime suki is irritating the heck out of me!!!!!
Okay, forum moderators... sorry for being a complaining idiot its just that I am really depressed... this is worse than when Haku died or XTV on the whole... this is by far the worst I have ever felt in a sad anime scene... which makes this the best anime I've ever seen actually cos it affected me this much.... Hmmm... I'm a little confused with the final specials... so those specials come after the 75 eps.. right?
And so far... there is no second season right?
Oh and after reviewing my post, I forgot to add... of course Sai is second next to Okita Souji... but its different cause Souji is real in person although he's dead
Ah, but would HnG be such a good story if Sai came back? Of course not - The tragedy of the dying mentor is a key to the whole story, and also forces Hikaru to grow up. In a sense, you could say that Sais death is both his last and most important moment in teaching Hikaru.
I felt bad about it for weeks, of course, but it was a good "bad". As you say, a story that can make you feel so deeply about a fictional character has bidged the gap between pretend and real, and touched physical through your very real emotions. This is the hallmark of great storytelling.
About the specials, there is a discussion earlier in this thread about their order.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-08, 03:31
Hmm... now that you mentioned it... I suppose it won't be as good an anime if Sai did come back... if I think more deeply about it if he did pop up somewhere I would be like wtf? Yeah... you're right ato... Thanks for making me feel a little better... I guess I don't exactly want him to suddenly appear out of no where and make the sad part meaningless... Thanks for letting me know about the sequences as well....
Anyway, wanna ask ppl... why is it that I can't plan ahead in go as well as I do in chess??? Ok... I admit, there's more combinations... but heck... how much do I have to play to get good? It only took me 3 months to get great at chess.. this is taking forever!!!!!! Does it really take a lifetime to master this game? Or do I just not have a thing for it and should give up? The worst I felt was one time, I was on a losing end... and the guy on yahoo resigned even though I was losing... made me feel pathetic... darn it...
Starlord
2004-04-08, 05:31
well if you grown up
you must learn to stand on your own feet
thats why Sai dissapears, and thats why he must dissapear
well iam also unlucky that Sai dissapears..
but i understood why
as long Sai is there Hikaru would never reach the move of God
now he is free free of his own Genie
and he is on his own move
ready to gain the Move of God..
and at that Time i am Shure Sai would watsch him :)
Kamui4356
2004-04-08, 22:20
Anyway, wanna ask ppl... why is it that I can't plan ahead in go as well as I do in chess??? Ok... I admit, there's more combinations... but heck... how much do I have to play to get good? It only took me 3 months to get great at chess.. this is taking forever!!!!!! Does it really take a lifetime to master this game? Or do I just not have a thing for it and should give up? The worst I felt was one time, I was on a losing end... and the guy on yahoo resigned even though I was losing... made me feel pathetic... darn it...
Well that's hard to say, since it's based on how adept you are at go. I've only been playing go for a few months, yet I'm already better at it than I am at chess, which I've been playing since I was 8. Chess there's a limited number of good moves that can be made each turn. Look at the opening move for example. In chess there are a number of moves you can make, but only 4 or 6, depending on who you ask, that are considered good. In go, there are at least 21 possible opening moves that can be considered good. Thus reading ahead in go is quite different than it is in chess. In chess you can eliminate most possible moves as being bad ideas and then read out how the board will develop though all likely moves. In go, there are too many possible moves to do this, except in certain circumstances like joseki or the endgame, so one must look at the patterns of stones to read lay out instead of doing it move by move. This is also why computers can't be programed to play go on the same level as they can with chess. :) Don't give up though, eventually you'll start to break the habits you developed for chess that don't work well in go, and get quite a bit better, almost overnight. :)
As for the guy who resigned, at least you still get credit for a win. :)
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-08, 22:38
I just finished watching Hikaru... it was by far the best completed anime I've seen. I was so touched by everything and I would recommend it as a watch for everyone..... I haven't seen the last two specials or read the manga but from what i've heard so far.. i just need to see the last two specials right? I also cried again when he had his dream... partly because I missed Sai and partly because I found it was such a good thing as well... especially when he handed him his fan because it signaled that Hikaru was ready to move towards the hand of god..
I also liked the ending parts where Akira and Hikaru argued frequently, like part rival and good friends thing... such a nice warm feeling that gave me... overall anime was marvelous... it made me feel so much emotion
Trust me, don't read the manga ending, it would get you mad, very mad about the whole series, you will feel very ripe off and will probably mess up your opinion on Hikaru no Go for the rest of your life. What ever you do, don't read the manga ending. Just think of the show ending as THE ending.
I agree with everyone that Sai must die. He had to, it was what made the the plot move, and it was because of his death that Hikaru grew up. I am glad for that. I thought the anime ending is one of the most satisfying ending out of all the anime I watched.
i actually liked the end of the manga...
Laurie-chan
2004-04-08, 23:17
This title is probably going to be announced at Anime Boston as being licensed, either by Viz or ADV. NewType is going to break the silence of the license in next month's issue. * this is not a joke *
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-08, 23:23
Hmm... I'm quite an open minded person but I'm curious... I won't change my opinion of Hikaru no Go even if the manga ended poorly so would it be possible to spoiler it and tell me what it was? Seriously, nothing can make me change my opinion of Hikaru no Go.....
Kamui4356
2004-04-08, 23:52
This title is probably going to be announced at Anime Boston as being licensed, either by Viz or ADV. NewType is going to break the silence of the license in next month's issue. * this is not a joke *
I think viz has it, but I'd perfer adv. Viz will pobably relese in with 3 episodes per disk, while adv will probably put 4 or 5. With 75 episodes that adds up to quite a bit. 3 per disk would be 25, 4 would make it either 18 with 3 having 5 episodes or 19 with one having 3 episodes, 5 would make it 15. at $30 each that would be 750, 540-570, or 450. That's a huge difference in price. Though the company that releases it would get a cent from me until they have box sets out, regardless. :)
TangentZ
2004-04-09, 00:59
Trust me, don't read the manga ending, it would get you mad, very mad about the whole series, you will feel very ripe off and will probably mess up your opinion on Hikaru no Go for the rest of your life. What ever you do, don't read the manga ending. Just think of the show ending as THE ending.
I think it's been mentioned before. But I'll say it again anyway.
Some people speculated that this was the way the manga author, Hotta Yumi, wanted the readers to feel what Hikaru was going through.
If you think about it, this is precisely how Hikaru felt when Sai left him. The manga just ended "suddenly", without much warning.
Readers were "outraged", much as Hikaru was feeling when Sai just disappeared and he couldn't find Sai anywhere. All of a sudden, there was no more Hikaru no Go manga.
Readers = Hikaru. HnG Manga = Sai.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-09, 01:21
Some people speculated that this was the way the manga author, Hotta Yumi, wanted the readers to feel what Hikaru was going through.
If you think about it, this is precisely how Hikaru felt when Sai left him. The manga just ended "suddenly", without much warning.
Readers were "outraged", much as Hikaru was feeling when Sai just disappeared and he couldn't find Sai anywhere. All of a sudden, there was no more Hikaru no Go manga.
Readers = Hikaru. HnG Manga = Sai.
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You mean that the manga end just stops at ...........
Sai left... and that's it? no more?
If that happened OMG... I would have died .... I mean yeah it would have left me feeling angry with the ending and all but I wouldn't have been able to take the trauma.... if the writer wanted us to feel that way... i think i have had a taste of it from the anime... that's good enough for me... I just can't take too much of this ...
TangentZ
2004-04-09, 09:23
You mean that the manga end just stops at ...........
Sai left... and that's it? no more?
No...
The manga stops right at the end of the Hokuto Cup tournament, in a very, very unsatisfying manner (to me and many others).
There was something after that but they were just some stupid "one-shots".
All in all, the ending is hated by many loyal fans.
They expected the story to continue after the tournament, but it didn't. It just ended. *bleh*
(Hikaru expected to be able to play Go with Sai for who-knows-how-long, but he just *poof* disappeared one day.)
Having prob getting HnG 51+ from Real-Fansubbers. Using both ABC 2.6.5 and Bittorrent 3.4.2. Getting error message "bad info from tracker". Others seem to be torrenting these batch files. What client should I use? Or can someone streamload it to me? Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanx,
Mad
PS- If answer is technical to any degree, please break it down. Me=not so good with computers.
Scorpion
2004-04-15, 07:56
Hikaru No Go is the far best anime i've ever watched and yes even though the end dissapointed me. however i've heard that they're gonna make a second season of it and that they've already started to show abit in some asian countries. if it's true or not i dunno,but i hope it is
ShikaShika
2004-04-15, 12:58
I very much doubt it's true, and I wouldn't want the anime to continue if it didn't have a kickass manga to follow. I'll settle for the specials of the Hokuto cup which are bound to come.
I think the ending of the anime is perfectly fine though, and Hikaru no Go is my absolute favourite anime.
DrWho2002
2004-04-15, 14:27
Hikaru No Go is the far best anime i've ever watched and yes even though the end dissapointed me. however i've heard that they're gonna make a second season of it and that they've already started to show abit in some asian countries. if it's true or not i dunno,but i hope it is
There is no more anime after the 2004 New Years Special. That's all there is for now.
IMSabbel
2004-04-15, 15:37
Spoilers for manga and anime ahead. YOu are warned.
There is one fundamental problem why the manga and thus the anime had to stop was the fact that the author ran into a deathend.
Hikaro and Akira are both top class japanese pros at the end (skill, not dan-level). Akira of course, and hikaru, too (he nearly won the game against his sensei, wins against 5 or 6 dans).
And the whole story is about those 2 aproaching the hand of god, suggesting that they dont get a midlife-crises at 18 and give up go :)
So two more years of their current growth, and they would play in all tournment legues. Akira would have already at least one title, maybe hikaru too if he is lucky/has a opponend he's good against in the finale.
They would blast away all other Pros in japan, and then the real problem begins: Korea and China. A sad fact is that japanese go players SUCK. compared to korea. in real life.
And the author of the story had lots of support from asian go pros in the creation of the manga. If he had those two japanese pros kick koreas asses, his connections in korea wouldnt like it. If he tries to show the difference in skill, it would negate all the matches against the japanese pros.
The best solution would have been to end the manga like the last episode of the anime. A long 30-40 page chapter with teasers of the future of the characters, after the hikaru/akira match.
ive only just started to watch this anime. ive seen up to episode 20. i have a long way to go yet. its a bit sad that they stopped at 75. ahh well can't be helped i suppose.
however, watching this anime, makes me want to go learn to play "go"
heh.
my favourite character is: sai. of course.. he has purple lips. :)
for some reason that appeals to me.
muahahahahhah
DrWho2002
2004-04-15, 23:38
They didn't stop at 75 there is the 2004 New Years Special. Then it stops. =p
my favourite character is: sai. of course.. he has purple lips. :)
for some reason that appeals to me.
muahahahahhah
If 4kids got HnG, I think they'd recast Sai as a woman. Conservative so-and-so's.
however, watching this anime, makes me want to go learn to play "go"
that`s how a lot of people felt i wish it would be shown on western tv to get outryouth to play this game. Im sure it would be a bigger success and a damn lot more interesting than pokemon style card games.
I must sound really old now. I`m not...no really!
DrWho2002
2004-04-16, 01:49
I think HnG may be having some kind of influence here, or i could just be crazy. I've seen more references to Go in american tv shows now, the latest being 24.... =p
They didn't stop at 75 there is the 2004 New Years Special. Then it stops. =p
Ohh thats tops!
i hadn't heard that.
*looks forward to this.
grin
i feel like im a kid just about to be given a lolley!
If 4kids got HnG, I think they'd recast Sai as a woman. Conservative so-and-so's.
excuse my ignorance but i dont know what a HnG is.
someone care to let me know?
I must sound really old now. I`m not...no really!
you cant be that old ...
im generally older than most in anime forums. between 25 and 35 age range.
*muahahahah
ok.. ill be good.
DrWho2002
2004-04-16, 02:25
excuse my ignorance but i dont know what a HnG is.
someone care to let me know?
H = Hikaru
n = no
G = Go
helloooooooooooooooooo? :dots:
H = Hikaru
n = no
G = Go
helloooooooooooooooooo? :dots:
man dont i feel dumb :)
i never know with these acroynms!
Sylvanthious
2004-04-16, 02:56
Yay! Just a week ago I was looking to dl some eps of this series and all the torrents were broken or something. I'm really happy that they are back in effect! I've been reading some of the manga of this and it's really neat, can't wait to see the anime!
Scorpion
2004-04-16, 07:25
That's just what i heard,u never know when it's gonna happen..or at least hoping it will happen. i mean,they gotta at least do a special or 2 for the Hokotu Cup since the manga did that far..
ShikaShika
2004-04-16, 11:24
Yeah the last special had no point if they weren't gonna continue to do the whole Hokuto cup.
Sylvanthious
2004-04-20, 06:33
OMG, WTF just happened to the torrents for this?!?!?!?! I'm not even halfway through the series and now it's back to being all messed up again. If anyone has any info on how to get this either by BT or IRC please please PM me.
I found that most of the problems d/ling HnG are caused by my firewall. BTW would it be possible for someone to reseed HnG eps. 41-45? Please!!!
Thank you
Mad :help:
I can't get on the website that has all of the HnG torrents. Is it just me or is everyone having this problem. I only need the last 15 episodes too. Dammit
Edit:never mind, its back up.
neXgenErazn
2004-04-22, 20:55
yeh wat did ever happen to the site i cant seem to dl the torrents anymore.. not good :(
Sylvanthious
2004-04-24, 04:23
I've noticed it goes down and then comes back up a day or two later.
They should've continue the manga and the anime. I bet Hng's popularity will be as near as Naruto, or maybe more. Remember the days when every episodes of HNG comes out of fansub, there are at least 9000+ people downloading it at the same time? I think the peak was 10000+. Those were the days.
ShikaShika
2004-04-24, 15:24
I'm pretty glad it ended while it was still good. 75 eps is still pretty much.
donna8157
2004-04-26, 14:53
wow 9000-10000 dls when the hng episodes came out? that's crazy. hehe.. i heard that they would finish up the manga with just the specials and ovas.
Sylvanthious
2004-04-26, 17:12
Is the manga still ongoing?
donna8157
2004-04-26, 17:14
I think the manga is complete although the ending was not very satisfying.
Kamui4356
2004-04-26, 19:09
Is the manga still ongoing?
From what I heard, the mangaka got tired of doing the series and just dropped it suddenly. I'm not sure if this was really true or just rumors though. :hmm:
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-26, 23:00
i don't suppose he got tired from the way it sounds but i think this issue has been highlighted before that the writer probably got himself stuck in a rut...quoting someone from this thread the person said that the writer probably got stuck and decided to end it there because Japan Go isn't as good as China or Koreas and basically the ending message was that Japan had a lot of potential for Go and still had many more battles to face....
He wasn't able to continue the show and make Japan beat China or Korea flat without starting some controversial issues because in the real world, that isn't the case... this puts him in a fix... which is why in the last OVA or the cup specials....although i haven't watched it so correct me if i'm wrong
Japan loses with 2 losses and one win, the win belonging to Akira
although the manga ended where it did which is way before the anime ended, the writer probably saw it coming and decided to end it that way because he couldn't see how else to end it... or the other assumption would be that he left it at that because he wanted ppl to feel the anger and frustration hikaru felt losing Sai...i don't know, i didn't read the manga... but my guess is he probably got stuck and the anime went on to cover a little further so that it would satisfy the fans a bit more
donna8157
2004-04-27, 22:21
The anime goes along further than the manga? I thought it was still behind the manga right now. Anyway, the ending was incredibly.
sad. I heard that Hikaru cries a lot at the end because he had lost.
that is a bit urgy.
i hate it when they end it so unfinished.
Well to me it is unfinished.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-28, 01:32
hmmm... with reference to the above
if ure refering to the hokuto cup .... i haven't watched but i know hikaru loses however its an ending to signify that Japan still has a long way to go in the world of Go which inspires viewers interested in Go to push and work harder....... on the other hand if you're talking about the 75th ep anime ending.... I cried like crazy because of the fact that Sai sort of comes back in Hikaru's dream to hand over his fan signifying and letting Hikaru know that his job was done and that with what knowledge he had pass down to Hikaru, it was now Hikaru's chance to obtain the hand of god...... i felt so touched and cried so much because Sai didn't even speak a single word and smiled so softly handing over his fan......
omg... can't talk about these endings anymore... becoming teary eyed....
but wanna say that, whether ppl refer to the anime, manga or ova endings.. they all kinda in their own way leads to one conclusion... to achieve the hand of god one needs to work very hard and that the world of go is so huge that its never ending just like the never ending possibilities and created strategies of the game... so for those who watched this and were waiting for Hikaru to achieve the hand of god... i guess i can see why it must be frustrating... but for me i think that it was fine... not the best but appropriate.
Well, they really don't even mention the Hand of God that much, in the anime at least, so it didn't bother me.
Also the fact that it sounds kinda silly.
bluemist
2004-04-28, 08:19
Good things about Hikaru no Go:
I'm not trying to put Sai out of the equation (I like that character too, he's a cool guy), but ever since Sai is gone, the fantasy of the series shifted into reality. Because there's no one to help Hikaru anymore, his Go skills are truly his now.
The fantasy-to-reality shift is what I really like most. Unlike other shounen series (PoT), where the stuff becomes more and more unrealistic and impossible considering it portrays real sports or games (yea, the tennis ball looks like DBZ fireballs now), Hikaru no Go has 'real progression'.
I particularly liked Hikaru's progression, from him completely relying on Sai (fantasy), to sharing games with Sai (fantasy), and then to developing his own powerful game of Go. When Sai is gone (reality), his skills refine further and further, but again it follows the rules of reality, in which you can't be the ultimate genius in just a matter of years. That is why we still see Hikaru losing, and also Touya Akira loses a number of times as well.
The world of Go in real life is a very dynamic game to put a story into, and it allowed the mangaka to be very flexible in developing good story arcs. Go clubs in school, school Go tournaments, professionalism and amateurism in Go, random Go matches, Go rankings, major Go tournaments, international Go tournaments... these are just some of the stuff we saw in the series. This is very unlike other shounen anime right now (ehem PoT again), just focusing on a single straightforward story where the lead characters MUST WIN just to advance the major part of the story.
ShikaShika
2004-04-28, 09:50
so for those who watched this and were waiting for Hikaru to achieve the hand of god... i guess i can see why it must be frustrating...
I think it was pretty obvious after Sai's last monolouge that we wouldn't ever see the hand of god being achieved. So that didn't bother me at all. It's just something that drives the characters. I think the anime ending is perfect even though you want more (a good sign of a great anime) it's a perfect place end it. And then the OVAs are just bonuses.
slapstick
2004-04-28, 10:19
From what I heard, the mangaka got tired of doing the series and just dropped it suddenly. I'm not sure if this was really true or just rumors though. :hmm:
She dropped it suddenly because she finally realized how bad it sucks. To bad it took her 189 chapters to realize that.
Scorpion
2004-04-29, 08:55
I think u should read through this whole topic before u say something like that again,if i recall it right someone mentioned that when they stopped doing it after Sai died the fans got angry and went into an uproar..that seems too tell alot of wheter it sucks or not
Asakura_Y0h
2004-04-30, 01:17
don't get ureself workedup about his comment on Hikaru being sucky... its just his opinion anyway.... for those of us who have lived through and read through and sat through to watch the go players torments.. and then went to play the game for ourselves to try how hard it is... experienced the frustration of losing so many times because of that........ its only natural that we love the show better than him...
besides... maybe he doesn't have the patience to watch the show or read the manga and doesn't think that go is interesting... anyway... enough analysing about what he thinks... just want to clarify that a mangaka in reality would never ever drop doing something because they think their own work sucked .... i mean would u wanna drop 189 chapters worth of hard work because it sucked? its possible she got tired of thinking 'what next'..... but i doubt that the right word is sucky...
From what I heard, the mangaka got tired of doing the series and just dropped it suddenly. I'm not sure if this was really true or just rumors though. :hmm:
If it IS true, then I'm glad she stopped it. Nothing worse than forcing a writer to continue a series when she's out of stuff to say. And, really, as much as I love the series, what else WAS there to say? The Akira/Hikaru rivalry will never end, Hikaru came to terms with Sai's death, we have begun to explore international waters (expanding the playing field into worldwide - as though the Internet didn't do that already)
It might have been nice to see Hikaru winning a title, but that's probably still years off. Both he and Akira lost to their respective elders - even though Akira was playing to his fullest abilities, he couldn't beat Ogata - and assuming Ogata is on par with other titlists, Akira (and by extension Hikaru) can't take any titles just yet.
Well...I have no idea if that made sense or not...
It made plenty of sense! You're right! The anime ends things more concisly.
Scorpion
2004-04-30, 07:45
The ending was really good i can't argue that,i just wanna see a good match now and then since he had a lot of go players too play against..i wouldn't even mind seeing him lose as long as he could play some of those that he wanted too play
I tought it's a good place to stop when Sai left.
But I just get the urge sometimes to see a rematch between Hikaru and Touya Sensei or Kuwabara Sensei.
slapstick
2004-04-30, 14:04
the real reason she dropped it is that fans got pissy that there weren't more hot chicks in the show, and Hikaru and Akari weren't hooking up. (Nothing like a lill fun on top the go board to destress oneself).
the real reason she dropped it is that fans got pissy that there weren't more hot chicks in the show, and Hikaru and Akari weren't hooking up. (Nothing like a lill fun on top the go board to destress oneself).
aaaa, go away, stay away from the Go board. :P
Scorpion
2004-05-04, 07:55
yeah it's kinda annoying that he didn't even try kissing her or something,she is kinda hot ;)
frowndog
2004-05-04, 09:10
yeah it's kinda annoying that he didn't even try kissing her or something,she is kinda hot ;)
Really disgusting yaoi references aside (you know what i mean ;) Hikaru, Akira, yaoi...), Hikaru probably doesn't even realize that Akari exists. In his current world, there is Go and then there is everything else.
Also, Akari has been his friend since forever so its not out of the realm of possibility that 16 year old Hikaru doesn't really think of her as anything but that "annoying kid next door"
Having said that, I sure would have liked something to have been said about Hikaru and Akari's relationship...
bluemist
2004-05-04, 17:34
Really disgusting yaoi references aside (you know what i mean ;) Hikaru, Akira, yaoi...), Hikaru probably doesn't even realize that Akari exists. In his current world, there is Go and then there is everything else.
Also, Akari has been his friend since forever so its not out of the realm of possibility that 16 year old Hikaru doesn't really think of her as anything but that "annoying kid next door"
Having said that, I sure would have liked something to have been said about Hikaru and Akari's relationship...
Well for Hikaru/Akari there's always doujinshi for that! (evil grin)
Kidding aside, in shounen anime there is less focus on these kind of stuff. But I recall there were a few episodes/chapters actually developing their relationship right? I think those were enough to 'imply' that they would either remain good friends, or become lovers in the future.
But then again Hikaru's future is Go...
donna8157
2004-05-06, 19:10
There was definitely not much focus on Hikaru and Akari's relationship. I didn't mind it that much because for most of the show, Hikaru was still a young boy. And towards the end, there was some more mention of Hikaru and Akari developing a more succinct relationship. As for Hikaru and Akira, I see them as just being good friends and rivals, but I can definitely see how there could be something between them. Lol. But I don't think that would happen, and plus Hikaru said that he would teach Akari more about Go so maybe during that time their relationship will take a turn towards being more romantic.
I think Hikaru no Go had a good ending, like others said, there wasn't much more to get into after that... sure some people want to see the hand of God mastered and such but I don't really see that happening judging by a few conversations near the end of the series implying that it will take thousands (or more) years to accomplish.
Something I wouldn't mind though would be an ova focusing on their future (maybe another 5-10 years after the series ended) and possibly seeing Hikaru beat Akira at a game ;) along with how relationships have developed between characters. Though that's just me - I always want to know who ends up with who when they are older and what they are doing when they are grow up :P It's the ultimate closure, and I've hardly even seen something like it done for a series...
Sh1ka9on
2004-05-08, 20:50
umm... I tried using Search for this, but it came up with nothing and since this is the most recent thread about Hikaru No Go, I'll post my question here.
I would like to ask what Chapter does the Manga end on?
**I know i'm in the wrong category, sry...**
Unless I've missed stuff, it ends on Chapter 189
Sh1ka9on
2004-05-08, 20:59
:O! Thanks a lot!!
I think Hikaru no Go had a good ending, like others said, there wasn't much more to get into after that... sure some people want to see the hand of God mastered and such but I don't really see that happening judging by a few conversations near the end of the series implying that it will take thousands (or more) years to accomplish.
Something I wouldn't mind though would be an ova focusing on their future (maybe another 5-10 years after the series ended) and possibly seeing Hikaru beat Akira at a game ;) along with how relationships have developed between characters. Though that's just me - I always want to know who ends up with who when they are older and what they are doing when they are grow up :P It's the ultimate closure, and I've hardly even seen something like it done for a series...
I would also like some closure to this series. I mean, in the end nobody has acheived the Hand of God, Hikaru hasn't really been acknowledged by the public, and Hikaru is still chasing after Akira.
As for a series that shows what happens to everyone when they've grown up, I think that the second series of Digimon is pretty much the only series that I've seen do that.
lordlucless
2004-05-09, 05:16
I think there is closure to the series (prior to the last New Year Special, at least). I think part of the reason people don't like it, is that they don't understand what the central point of the show is. It's called Hikaru's Go - and that's what it's about. It's about Hikaru growing into his go. That's the revelation that Sai had when he disappeared - Hikaru wasn't put there for Sai to use, Sai was put there for Hikaru to learn from. And it's when Hikaru learns to play on his own, not to always rely on Sai, that the series finished. Sai's fulfilled his destiny, and Hikaru has started his own.
ShikaShika
2004-05-09, 05:54
I would also like some closure to this series. I mean, in the end nobody has acheived the Hand of God, Hikaru hasn't really been acknowledged by the public, and Hikaru is still chasing after Akira.
Let's be realistic, if anyone was to achieve the hand of god during the course of the show it would really diminish the greatness of it. Sai himself realises that the hand of god won't even be achieved by Hikaru, it's just a goal that unites all great go players.
And Hikaru has been acknowledged by the staff at Weekly Go, as well as by all the pros that have come his way, he just haven't had the time to actually get the results that Akira has.
And also I don't really think Hikaru is chasing after Akira anymore, the last couple of episodes clearly show them being on the same level.
It's perfectly understandable to want more though, it's a really great anime, I just think it's an ok place to end it. (Before the special.)
I think that if they had ended both the manga and the anime at episode 75 that would have been fine, but now they at least have to finish the north star cup.
I'm pretty sure the Hand of God is mythical. No one will ever achieve it.
Sylvanthious
2004-05-09, 08:41
I think the series ended really well. In my opinion it was resolved. I'd like to see a special maybe once a year just showing Hikaru's progress. I really view this as a coming of age story, and what needed to be said was said, quite beautifully too, I might add. I don't think any anime I've seen has meant as much to me as this series did, it was wonderful from beginning to end.
Asakura_Y0h
2004-05-10, 03:23
Call me crazy but I've actually gone and taken up this game seriously after watching the show. After playing for 7 days (am working, so I only manage to put in 1 hour a day) I have bought two books in go... read 1 and a half... and I have been practicing game after game after game to realise that the only people i can beat at the moment are those who are total beginners like me before watching the show....
my conclusion... I can see why the mangaka had no more to write and that the anime is finished... whilst playing i have experienced that there is NO END to the game... it goes on and on and on and you can play it till you're 70 or 80... Heck on one of the go sites I visited, it said that a professional just turned 80 years old!!!!!!
And no, they cannot make an anime with these people playing games till when their THAT old because frankly speaking... I think if people don't delve into the game, they wouldn't know what the excitement was in playing the game or watching the game matches... and it would be for them a BORING anime... no matter how well this anime (and it has done a good job at it) has managed to capture the emotions of the players, people will get used to the emotional play after a while and won't dig into it anymore... that's when it will lose its touch... and then HnG will no longer be the touching memorable anime that it is now...... and that will totally spoil it... my advice to all you HnG fans.... you want more HnG action? Play the game... here's a good site to visit.... www.gobase.org
and if you're young out there? go master it, I wish I knew this game when I was younger... now i'm 23 and am really battling the fact that I can't be as great as those who started younger but... i suppose... i can't reverse the clock now can i... so START NOW!!!!!!!
Scorpion
2004-05-11, 14:10
They did end it somewhat good in the anime but the mistake they did was too end it when the most interesting part came,when they were gonna play games against other countries. since i acn't read the manga i dunno what happens and would really wanna know. and Hikaru still hasn't played against the higher pros which could end up like interesting matches.
And how did u become a member at gobase.org? i've been trying too get in there for months and they haven't sent me back a e-mail ones..
Asakura_Y0h
2004-05-11, 21:54
Hmm... they didn't either but when I tried to log into their website with the ID that I registered from the email, it worked......
I don't know if you tried it but give it one of two days after you send your email to them... try your login and password... it should work....
The other reason could be the verification process.... it reads at the bottom that being a member of some other Internet Go Server also helps verification..... I am a member on the Pandanet server...
I'll PM you about the rest cause I think this is a little off topic... But before I end....
CALLING ALL GO PLAYERS OUT THERE!!!!!!! IF YOU ARE PLAYING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE SERVER AND UR NICK SO THAT I CAN PLAY WITH YOU SOMETIME!!!!
P.S.... am a shitty beginner and have only played for 8 days... so if you're patient enough to play with me i'd be delighted...Please PM me should you want a game or should you have any other Go related internet sites or servers to provide!!!
I think they ended at a good spot in the anime too. It's a nice ending. I don't care much for romance in this series, so I am happy with Hikaru just playing go with Akira instead of going out with Akari.
Akira is cooler than Akari anyway. =P
I don't really want them to add any more because more episodes mean there is a chance they would mess up the ending. I don't want that. I am perfectly satisfy with now.
I'm pretty sure the Hand of God is mythical. No one will ever achieve it.
Well if that true then they suck for getting us all into it. :frustrated:
Well if that true then they suck for getting us all into it. :frustrated:
...heh...quite true, but then what exactly is this Hand of God thing anyway?
While Hikaru was reviewing some of Sai's old matches (when he was in Torajirou's body) Hikaru noticed a move that simultaneously attacks in all directions. How much better than that can one move get?
Therefore, we can believe that the Hand of God, rather than being the Divine Move (a single move), is in fact a hand that can do no wrong; a hand in which every single move is the best one for the situation without question and is therefore unbeatable. And I, for one, doubt that will ever be possible.
Technovia_EX
2004-05-12, 00:34
:hmm:
The Hand of God is still confusing to me. It can have a lot of different meanings, on which way you look at it. None is right, after all, they are all theories.
BTW, Wasn't HNG anime licensed by Viz? The manga is for sure, but I heard the anime was licensed not too long ago. Then why are the torrents still listed on AnimeSuki? If so, AS's list is inaccurate. They were quick on the gun to remove FMA when no official announcement was given, while HNG is still up. Anyway, if it hasn't been licensed, ignore my post :heh: .
ShikaShika
2004-05-12, 02:24
*ignores your post* ;)
The Hand Of God is the unreachable goal of having the "perfect game" I believe, or reaching ultimate perfection at go. Of cource, sai and hikaru will never acheive this, at least on this earth.
At least that is my opinion of what the Hand Of God is.
BTW, Wasn't HNG anime licensed by Viz? The manga is for sure, but I heard the anime was licensed not too long ago. Then why are the torrents still listed on AnimeSuki? If so, AS's list is inaccurate. They were quick on the gun to remove FMA when no official announcement was given, while HNG is still up. Anyway, if it hasn't been licensed, ignore my post :heh: .
The first HnG is licensed announcement was this huge bust because it wasn't, and so far no official word has been passed down. With FMA, it would be very hard to not be real. I mean, they even give a definitive air date for when the dub will be starting (October).
Asakura_Y0h
2004-05-13, 22:29
The Hand Of God is the unreachable goal of having the "perfect game" I believe, or reaching ultimate perfection at go. Of cource, sai and hikaru will never acheive this, at least on this earth.At least that is my opinion of what the Hand Of God is.
Well, this is what I think it is.... something similar to what you've got in mind but a bit more detailed.....In go, each move you make has a purpose and of this the general purpose of each move can be divided into these categories :-
1. To gain territory
2. To weaken your opponent's territory
3. To defend your own territory
4. To capture - this move is normally tied in with either one of the 3 above
The best moves in go comprise all 4 purposes in one move or at least 2... most pros make moves of at least 2 purposes to make their moves more efficient...... I think that the 'Hand of God' doesn't only focus on one move but it is refering to the ability to make a string of moves containing all purposes.... i.e. in my opinion not possible... to achieve this, the foundation that was made in the initial josekis must be sooo good that it provides room for 4 purpose moves all the time... but for this... your opponent must be equally as strong to draw out those types of moves from you as well...... if not there'd be no need or urgency to play so well
I believe so too, I think the Hand of God move is a move that change the battlefield favor from loosing into winning. That key point move that changes everything into your favor. Just like when Hikaru figure out that move to beat Sai's flow in Touya Koyo vs Sai game.
I think that's why at that moment Sai said he finally understand why he met Hikaru. Because he just witnessed the Hand of God move and Hikaru just shine in his eyes.
Scorpion
2004-05-14, 08:27
Yeah,and the are talking about "the Divine Move" sometimes and that must have been one since only 1 person notices it (Sai also after Hikaru point it out for him)
Are the remaining parts of the special broadcasted on TV or put on DVD, about the tournament? I saw a dvd about the special. I could not find any review kind of information about it. I thought maybe the special was completed through DVD. If you have any information on this, can you post it?
ShikaShika
2004-06-14, 00:57
Only what we've seen should be on that dvd. You'll have to wait for other specials to get the rest of the story.
slapstick
2004-06-14, 06:07
They say the Hand of God is basically a game God would play. And because God is all knowing, he must know the outcome over every single move. So the logic goes, the only way to obtain the Hand of God, or rather to have a perfect game, is to play every single game possible on a Go board, so that you are prepared for any situation. Only then will you know the outcome of every move, and thus the perfect solution to every game.
As an exercise for the more ambitous (or those for whom an unanswered question is like an open sore), here is a more suitable place to discuss "Kami no Itte" (http://senseis.xmp.net/?KamiNoItte) ;)
Sorry to double post, but doesn't this (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AVBA-14966) look promising? Extra material or just a collection of old stuff? Does anyone have more information than what is given here? Maybe someone more litterate in Japanese can enlighten this poor fan...
Slated for release, incidently, the very same day I arrive in Tokyo next time :D
DrWho2002
2004-06-14, 17:13
These compilation DVD's never really have anything of importance.
vinganza
2004-08-13, 15:56
What ever happened to that series? I got up to like episode 50 something and then I lost track of the series. Anyone knwo whether or not it was liscensed or something? Or am I just not looking hard enough?
Spaceghost
2004-08-13, 16:12
Perhaps you should pay more attention because all you had to do was click on series on the main page and scroll down to H.
http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1.html
hmm.. guess you cant read spaceghost, because it says on animetorrents forums that their torrents for hikaru no go are having problems and dont work.
Spaceghost
2004-08-13, 18:50
Actually the torrents work fine because I'm downloading some episodes right now, but there is also a link to anidb which has edonkey links for all the files....so :fingers:
Kaizoku_Gab
2004-12-05, 04:55
I know its so damn late to say it, but viz has licenced the manga, I dont know about the anime, and for what I have read in 9 pages of comments, the ending in anime rlz and in manga it sux...
I bought a hikago special but I dont know if its the one Im looking for... are there more than 1??
I know its so damn late to say it, but viz has licenced the manga, I dont know about the anime, and for what I have read in 9 pages of comments, the ending in anime rlz and in manga it sux...
I bought a hikago special but I dont know if its the one Im looking for... are there more than 1??
The anime isn't licenced, so the special you bought is probably a bootleg. And I think there's 3 (or 4) specials alltogether, the one considered episode 12.5 since it basically recaps episodes 1-12, the one that aired after episode 26, the one that aired somewhere in the episode 40s (I think it's just labeled as episode 46 or something though) and the one that came out after the series finished which is the hour long one.
Budweineken
2004-12-05, 18:36
The anime isn't licenced, so the special you bought is probably a bootleg. And I think there's 3 (or 4) specials alltogether, the one considered episode 12.5 since it basically recaps episodes 1-12, the one that aired after episode 26, the one that aired somewhere in the episode 40s (I think it's just labeled as episode 46 or something though) and the one that came out after the series finished which is the hour long one.
Probably the one you'll be most interested in is in the last one the New Year's Special since it continues the series...
I hope there will be another New Year's Special this year also (i doubt it)...
ShikaShika
2004-12-05, 19:25
The last one is the only one I'd really consider a special at all. Hey, it's nearing new year... no word on another special?
The anime is almost completely caught up with the manga. I don't know if there would be enough material to fill an hour (but I haven't seen/read the series in a little while).
ShikaShika
2004-12-06, 04:40
There's definetly enough material to fill up another 80 minute special. I'd say probably two (though it's been a while since I read it). Anyway, what's the point of doing the last special if you're not gonna complete the arc?
Hmm they used about 14 chapters for the last special (allthough some details were left out, especially in the opening and ending), and there's 21 chapters left. If they wanted to they could probably stretch the remaining chapters into two specials.
ShikaShika
2006-01-16, 10:29
So, did anyone buy the first dvd volume yet? Would be nice to hear the impressions of "regular" people. I was thinking of ordering it, but since it's a bit of a hassle and shipping might cost a bit, I'd like to hear what people think first.
I bought it. Aside from the lack of song subs (*shoots Viz*) there's nothing really wrong with it. I didn't bother listening to the dub, as I haven't seen many positive reactions to it. The "Go Go Igo" segments are included. While I don't care for how they romanized some of the names in the subs, it's worth buying if you want to support the show. I'm glad I have it, at any rate. I just wish the release schedule was faster.
SuiCiDe |<][/\/g
2006-01-17, 00:05
Will "Hikaru no Go" continue be released?
It is about 1 year that the ep.10 has been released.
:confused:
after ep 75 and 2 specials i havnt heard anything goin anime if u wana know what happens i would recommend goin to the manga
[/\/g']after ep 75 and 2 specials i havnt heard anything goin anime if u wana know what happens i would recommend goin to the manga
Lol and the post you're qouting is 3 years old. I think he was referring to the time when HnG was still being newly fansubbed by Elite-Fansubs.
I bought it. Aside from the lack of song subs (*shoots Viz*) there's nothing really wrong with it. I didn't bother listening to the dub, as I haven't seen many positive reactions to it. The "Go Go Igo" segments are included. While I don't care for how they romanized some of the names in the subs, it's worth buying if you want to support the show. I'm glad I have it, at any rate. I just wish the release schedule was faster.
Examples?
10 character limit
Squallff8aus
2006-01-19, 05:16
i swear viz can't dub for crap. I was hoping to learn some of the english names for the stone positions, but it sound so crap it just turns u off...
@ Viz
This is not pokamon! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
ShikaShika
2006-01-24, 19:01
I bought it. Aside from the lack of song subs (*shoots Viz*) there's nothing really wrong with it. I didn't bother listening to the dub, as I haven't seen many positive reactions to it. The "Go Go Igo" segments are included. While I don't care for how they romanized some of the names in the subs, it's worth buying if you want to support the show. I'm glad I have it, at any rate. I just wish the release schedule was faster.
Sorry, I forgot I asked. :p And yeah, what romanized names don't you agree with? Romanizing names doesn't sound that hard... Of course, I'd rather they kept the names in the correct order (Shindou Hikaru, etc... instead of Hikaru Shindou) but I've learned to live with that.
It's too bad this'll probably never get released by a Swedish company, with Swedish subs. HnG is something I'd love to show my brother and other kids at his age.
firstian
2006-01-24, 19:07
i swear viz can't dub for crap. I was hoping to learn some of the english names for the stone positions, but it sound so crap it just turns u off...
@ Viz
This is not pokamon! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go here and find out the proper name translations:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~gogaku/english/sfgoclub/godic.htm
pathyfinder
2006-01-30, 13:25
OK OK, you guys are really scaring me now about the poor quality dubs :eek:
I ordered this DVD a couple months ago, and it just came last week Friday, and I didn't have time to watch it yet this weekend, but I mainly bought it for the dub version so my mom would enjoy it.
I ususally end up watching purchased DVD's on subs anyways, it just don't feel right the other way.
I guess I'll have to pop that DVD in tonight and get the food shopping done fast so I can! Although it wouldn't be the first time family ends up eating burgers instead of tasty food because I was busy watching anime :eyespin:
also
did I understand this right, they took out some of the songs!!!!!!?????? SHiet the music is so moving, *me sad now* :sad:
ShikaShika
2006-01-31, 15:47
did I understand this right, they took out some of the songs!!!!!!?????? SHiet the music is so moving, *me sad now* :sad:
They did?! Where did you here that? This is important to me, I don't think I can by the dvds knowing some music might be missing.
did I understand this right, they took out some of the songs!!!!!!?????? SHiet the music is so moving, *me sad now* :sad:
I think you have misunderstood. The only thing that seems to be missing are subtitles for the songs (not something that everyone agrees is actually needed).
As Magus IX imples, it's just the subtitles to the song lyrics that are missing, not the songs themselves.
I bought it. Aside from the lack of song subs (*shoots Viz*) there's nothing really wrong with it.
pathyfinder
2006-01-31, 16:48
I think you have misunderstood. The only thing that seems to be missing are subtitles for the songs (not something that everyone agrees is actually needed).
As Magus IX imples, it's just the subtitles to the song lyrics that are missing, not the songs themselves.
DOMO :bow:
My bad :nono:
Examples?
10 character limit
The usual: Touya --> Toya, Shindou --> Shindo (and after that, I thought it was kind of odd that they bothered using the apostrophe in Hon'inbo, but whatever). Nothing egregious.
pathyfinder
2006-02-05, 19:02
Finally watched DVD Dub 1, ep 1 and Sai's voice is "painful" as he sounds like a clown and I don't like clowns. (sort of a when James from Team Rocket is talking goofy voice). IMO Sai's voice is primary in this anime.
I'll give this to my mom and see if she can enjoy it, the rest of the dubs were tollerable :sad: ....ger back to sub titles I go :D If mom don't like it then I'm not bothering to buy anymore, I'd rather buy manga.
Songs are the same, however I remember now how disappointing it is to listen to anime on my tv, the speakers are just way too lame. I have 5 speakers on my corner computer desk, that includes a woofer half the size of my compy :D
The dub script was pretty darn accurate, though.
pathyfinder
2006-02-06, 16:30
The dub script was pretty darn accurate, though. Hai, but Sai sounding "goofy" was heartbreaking. He's silly and comical but that doesn't mean he has to sound like bozo the clown :(
I'm at episode 7 and I can't believe how exciting this series is. This is a perfect example of a show that draw its audience with just the perfect blend of dialogues and background music. The lack of good animation or the absence of fighting isn't even an issue. I didn't even notice my foot fell a sleep until I had to go to the loo. :heh:
Would Hikaru ever be good enough to play Sai in an even match or Sai's mastering the Divine move? While you are at it, can someone teach me how to play go? :heh:
You are crazy if you want peoples to teach you go on the net ... its damn harder then playing chess :heh:
Just ep 7? o.O
HNG is simply one of the best anime series; heck its the series; that I've watch so far ... and I dont care if Sai is a guy... I :love: him more then Akari :heh:
Its the only anime that stayed on my HD long after I've finished watching it ... just so I could watch it anytime without bothering the DVDs :D
Favourite ep are ep 33 and 54-56 ... You know why when you've watched them later ^-^.
Come to think of it.. I love Isumi's VA in HNG yet totally despised him in GSD :p ... Show how good he was.
ShikaShika
2006-02-08, 03:59
Would Hikaru ever be good enough to play Sai in an even match or Sai's mastering the Divine move?
You shouldn't ask to get spoiled, but if you really want to there might be some earlier posts debating it. Either way, I won't spoil anything. Hikaru no Go was easily my favourite until I finished Monster, now they have to share number 1. :)
At least I can say this, HnG is the only 75 ep anime I ever watched over two days. (I skipped the go lessons, but otherwise no cheating. :p) I've seen the whole thing four or five times, but I have to see it again soon, because it's been over a year.
I couldn't begin to list favourite episodes, there are simply too many to mention. Enjoy theremaining 68 episodes monir, I know you will. :p (Well perhaps not 64 and 66, two sideshows independent of the plot, just as the plot really thickens. I usually skip both.)
While you are at it, can someone teach me how to play go? :heh:
I tried playing a freeware Go program on the easiest level -- I still got killed. :uhoh:
IMSabbel
2006-02-08, 15:22
I tried playing a freeware Go program on the easiest level -- I still got killed. :uhoh:
I know that feeling... and combine this with the fact that even the most sophisticated computer go programs are beaten easily my modestly adept go players, it really puts one into ones place :D
You are crazy if you want peoples to teach you go on the net ... its damn harder then playing chess :heh:
Just ep 7? o.O
That just your excuse for everything. At episode 9 now. Purple's being my favorite color I also think Sai looks good in that purple lipstick. :heh: And Touya, he is so intense for a kid. Puts me to shame as I remember the time when I was 14. I'm thinking about saving it on my HD too instead of just watch and delete, and may be even buy the DVD's once all the episode will be available in a neat box. And who is Isumi? Spoiler! Spoiler! KiNa just spoiled me. :heh: Hilarious avy btw! The FSN, for some reason, reminds me of Pokemon. Don't tell anyone I said that. :heh:
You shouldn't ask to get spoiled, but if you really want to there might be some earlier posts debating it. Either way, I won't spoil anything. Hikaru no Go was easily my favourite until I finished Monster, now they have to share number 1. :)
At least I can say this, HnG is the only 75 ep anime I ever watched over two days. (I skipped the go lessons, but otherwise no cheating. :p) I've seen the whole thing four or five times, but I have to see it again soon, because it's been over a year.
I couldn't begin to list favourite episodes, there are simply too many to mention. Enjoy theremaining 68 episodes monir, I know you will. :p (Well perhaps not 64 and 66, two sideshows independent of the plot, just as the plot really thickens. I usually skip both.) I once watched 17 episodes of Naruto in one sitting. I don't think I'll be able to give myself enough time to break that record any time soon, but this series is so darn addictive when all they do is slam down beans on the intersection points of x and y axis. :heh: Monster is neat as well. I've fallen ridiculously behind on the show. Good advice on the spoiler though I'm tempted to ask more questions, but I'll be good. :D
I tried playing a freeware Go program on the easiest level -- I still got killed. :uhoh: Yo Rai! May be Sai hacked into that program. :thinker:
Kamui4356
2006-02-09, 11:46
I tried playing a freeware Go program on the easiest level -- I still got killed. :uhoh:
Heh, I know that feeling... When I play a computer, I usually start out with a good position, only to watch my advantage get slowly chipped away over the rest of the game...
I'm thinking about saving it on my HD too instead of just watch and delete, and may be even buy the DVD's once all the episode will be available in a neat box.
That's what I plan to do. At 75 episodes, the individual dvds just add up to too much money... Getting box set makes much more sense, even if it'll be a while.
I once watched 17 episodes of Naruto in one sitting. I don't think I'll be able to give myself enough time to break that record any time soon, but this series is so darn addictive when all they do is slam down beans on the intersection points of x and y axis. :heh:
I refused to even watch Hikaru no Go for the longest time, since it's about a board game. I kept saying there was no way it could be good. However, one day someone in my anime club brought in the episodes. As they were put on, I decided to go home. However, I got to the door and saw it was raining very hard, and my car was parked on the other side of campus. Thus I went back to the club and watched the first few episodes there. By the next morning, I had the first 40 or so episodes downloaded.:heh:
I refused to even watch Hikaru no Go for the longest time, since it's about a board game. I kept saying there was no way it could be good. However, one day someone in my anime club brought in the episodes. As they were put on, I decided to go home. However, I got to the door and saw it was raining very hard, and my car was parked on the other side of campus. Thus I went back to the club and watched the first few episodes there. By the next morning, I had the first 40 or so episodes downloaded.:heh:
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/4980/suspicious7qz.gif
:) Yeah, it's hard to believe a show about a board game can be so entertaining.
ShikaShika
2006-02-09, 13:57
I didn't even know what it was about when I downloaded it. I got the advice from a friend of mine, and having never watched an anime in my life before I was quite curious. Turned out to be the best tv-series I'd ever seen up until that point. I'm just happy that it really stuck to the manga (except for the first two episodes that are a little bit different). Now I've got all the episodes downloaded, all 23 tankoubons (sp?) bought and I'm heavily considering the dvds despite the cost. But on top of everything, I've actually visited the Japanese Go Institute in Ichigaya in Tokyo. Beat that! :D
Waya waiting for Shindou and Fukui in the 2nd op. If you look at my pic, then Waya would be standing behind the black car. Incidently, I used the same exit as Shindou is using.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6010/p3300108small6yh.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p3300108small6yh.jpg)
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The Institute.
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Now, the angles aren't the same, since I didn't have such a comparison in mind when I took them. Everything doesn't look exactly the same, but trust me, if you've been there, you'll recognize yourself when you see it in the anime. :)
Areguzanda
2007-03-13, 06:44
Finished watching Hikaru no Go + the last Special episode yesterday
and I just have one thing to say:
I WANT TO SEE MORE!!!
it's one of the best story's ever in my mind.
the music is also great, and I'm even starting to really learn the game Go.
heck I'm even thinking about buying a Go board for my own.
is the Manga still going or is it finished?
they just have to make more episodes of this show.
anyone know anything about it?
some rumors about more episodes or just one more special?
from the last special in 2004 and to now 2007 is a long time and I'm afraid they wont make any more episodes.
but if anyone knows anything please tell me :)
(I'll buy the English version of the Manga soon. but not many volumes out yet)
Nightengale
2007-03-13, 08:25
is the Manga still going or is it finished?
The manga's...finished, technically. It's run has ended, but...
The way the manga ended was way worse than how the TV ending ended. Not to mention there's like...4 or 5 incomplete plot holes introduced, but never expanded.
Frankly, I wouldn't recommend it so much. Personally, I have a biased love towards Hikaru no Go so to me, the more HnG there was, the better but it may differ to others. Your pick.
Areguzanda
2007-03-13, 10:12
The manga's...finished, technically. It's run has ended, but...
The way the manga ended was way worse than how the TV ending ended. Not to mention there's like...4 or 5 incomplete plot holes introduced, but never expanded.
Frankly, I wouldn't recommend it so much. Personally, I have a biased love towards Hikaru no Go so to me, the more HnG there was, the better but it may differ to others. Your pick.
well I guess we are alike.
the more HnG the better is my opinion too.
I guess this show really got me hooked.
I just hope they make more of it.
that they finish the story as far the Manga goes at least.
and to think I just started watching this show because I thought the name
Hikaru no Go sounded kind of cool.
didn't have a clue what it was about ^^
thank god I watched it.
Well I just finished rewatching the series, honestly The rivalry between Hikaru and Akira is sooo well done, I mean honestly you can forget any other rivalry in HISTORY it phails in comparison to Hikaru's and Akira's. It's really a wonderful story and while I couldn't even tell most of the moves and what was really going on it was presented in such a way that even people like myself who had never even herd of go can understand it quite well.
Honestly the only disappointing thing was I would have liked to see more development on Akari and Hikaru's relationship but I suppose they are STILL young (even though Hikaru looks like he's around 18 by the end of the series XD)
Can anyone tell me (even if it's a slight spoiler) if anything between them develops later on in the manga? I've been planning to continue the manga now but that's one thing I really had wanted to know, and speaking of the Manga does anyone know the chapter/issue that continues the story from the anime?
Oh and honestly you've got to love the third opening I love the thing when it circles around Hikaru and Akira with the universe behind them the music is tuned so well there.
and since I'm asking a lot of questions (this really goes with the question that I asked before but still...) after the anime ends and the manga continues on how many more chapters are in it anyway? (like how far along does the plot continue to move)
Not much further.
The anime ends with Hikaru accepting Sai's disappearance, and battling Akira (or at least I think it does, it's been a couple of years).
The post-anime special ends with Team Japan gearing up towards an international cup.
The manga covers said cup, and then ends. Not too much in the way of character development -- and a very, very odd ending point.
iwubanime
2007-05-23, 18:04
Hmm, finally got around to watching (and finishing) this series. It was very good and while the ending was alright, I feel like they could have ended it alot better. The special was nice, but it also left you wanting more.
I'm a little sad to hear that the manga doesn't go much further.
In the manga, who wins the international cup??
And also what is this bad ending people are talking about in the manga?
Korea beats Japan
And I think people are complaining about how it just feels like an abrupt ending, kinda like someone decided to go woosh and suddenly cut it off.
Actually, the general sentiment when the anime was still airring was something along the lines of how the manga started going further than it should have to have a nice ending.
KittiKat16
2007-05-30, 02:09
Hey--I'm curious. Is it any good? And what type you'd classify it by?
Hey--I'm curious. Is it any good? And what type you'd classify it by?
I think that Hikaru no Go would be best described as a sports anime. Despite its rather esoteric subject matter, it may well be one of the most accessible sports anime around.
I think that it's an excellent show that has quite a lot of appeal to different demographics. To date, just about everyone that's given it a chance has given Hikaru no Go a pretty good review.
Areguzanda
2007-05-30, 05:23
I began to watch Hikaru no Go for one reason and that was the name.
I thought it sounded kind of cool.
but when I started watching I was hooked. the story, the characters and the tension of the story is great, and it remains as of today still in my top 20 list.
Hey--I'm curious. Is it any good? And what type you'd classify it by?The origin is sports-based, trying to reach the peak in the game, and having some kind of rivalry. But, unlike many other similar shows, it is highly character driven. Even the not very much used characters can make you ask for more from the parts that include those characters, they are not your typical throw-the-basket-and-forget kind of characters. The strong characters are presented in the most desirable way, even if you do not see a lot, you can still be satisfied with their strength. And, it involves lots of emotional scenes...In short, it is a show that grows in you...
Lastly, because of integrating many elements successfully into the show, and using them at good levels make that show one of the must-watch shows...
johanath
2007-06-03, 06:59
Hello all,
Just wanted to confirm that the anime doesn't go into the International matches that everyone was referring to in previous posts?
Thanks in advance.
passenger
2007-06-03, 09:03
there is a special episode (or movie) about its prelims but tournament itself was not animated. on the other hand if you have not started this series dont watch it. although it's my favorite i believe ending sucks.
IMSabbel
2007-06-03, 09:06
thats bullshit, and you know it.
The TV series itself has a very nice ending (especially if you dont know the manga), and the ova isnt bad either.
Areguzanda
2007-06-03, 10:29
thats bullshit, and you know it.
The TV series itself has a very nice ending (especially if you dont know the manga), and the ova isnt bad either.
agreed
even though it ends with the 2004 new years special that shows the matches to qualify for the international turnament and no further this episode gives a good ending I think.
and even though it gives a fair ending it still makes it clear that they can easy continue the Anime with another OVA or something if they wish for it.
Sure I would love for them to make Anime of the turnament.
but I love this Anime just the way it is too.
anyways this is a must-watch anime.
SeijiSensei
2007-06-03, 15:09
I felt a bit gypped that we didn't get to see the tournament; I would have preferred that over some of the filler episodes near the end. Still I think the only reason I would complain about the ending is that it ended. I just want(ed) to see more Hikaru no Go.
passenger
2007-06-03, 15:49
thats bullshit, and you know it.
The TV series itself has a very nice ending (especially if you dont know the manga), and the ova isnt bad either.
as i said this is my favorite anime but ending sucks and this is my opinion and various people in the past pages of this thread thinks ending was somewhat lacking .i wasnt asking for approval or anything. thanks anyway.
johanath
2007-06-04, 04:24
Oh ok - thanks for the info, I've watched the series and (I believe 3?) special episodes. I've watched the episode to determine the 3 members to represent Japan - from the postings, I had thought that the Japan vs Korea match was also animated!
Once again, thanks.
TougeSil80
2007-07-15, 06:24
Just watched all 75 eps. I was very dissapointed near the end.
After ep.60, things went downhill quick. They're just filling the eps with Hikaru and Akira's side story and Isumi. Did the anime caught up to the manga at that point and had to create original eps? It seems that way. And the ending was a big dissapointment too. They didn't even make an attempt to explain what that god move Sai was searching for is, Hikaru couldn't even beat Akira. IMO Sai disappeared way too early in the anime. He's not done teaching his knowledge to Hikaru yet. A thousand year of experience just went to waste just like that. I was expecting Akira to be just a minor to medium boss, and then the final battle would be between Hikaru and that Honinbo guy. Like I said big dissapointment. For the eps up to ep.60, 8/10, after that 5/10.
IIRC the manga was already long done by the time the anime got anywhere near the end of it's TV series run. In fact, I'd have to go relook at everything to check, but the end set of episodes pretty much follows exactly how the manga went, possibly a bit condensed, but overall the same.
TougeSil80
2007-07-15, 07:56
I guess the author ran out of ideas then. The last 25 eps could've covered a lot more interesting stuff instead of the filler they focused on. But man, this is one of the reason I don't watch long anime, they never end well.
Areguzanda
2007-07-15, 11:59
Just watched all 75 eps. I was very dissapointed near the end.
After ep.60, things went downhill quick. They're just filling the eps with Hikaru and Akira's side story and Isumi. Did the anime caught up to the manga at that point and had to create original eps? It seems that way. And the ending was a big dissapointment too. They didn't even make an attempt to explain what that god move Sai was searching for is, Hikaru couldn't even beat Akira. IMO Sai disappeared way too early in the anime. He's not done teaching his knowledge to Hikaru yet. A thousand year of experience just went to waste just like that. I was expecting Akira to be just a minor to medium boss, and then the final battle would be between Hikaru and that Honinbo guy. Like I said big dissapointment. For the eps up to ep.60, 8/10, after that 5/10.
57 episodes?
then you have not seen the last 90 mins 2004 new year special?
it's like a huge episode 76.
watch it. I think it's great.
Just watched all 75 eps. I was very dissapointed near the end.
After ep.60, things went downhill quick. They're just filling the eps with Hikaru and Akira's side story and Isumi. Did the anime caught up to the manga at that point and had to create original eps? It seems that way. And the ending was a big dissapointment too. They didn't even make an attempt to explain what that god move Sai was searching for is, Hikaru couldn't even beat Akira. IMO Sai disappeared way too early in the anime. He's not done teaching his knowledge to Hikaru yet. A thousand year of experience just went to waste just like that. I was expecting Akira to be just a minor to medium boss, and then the final battle would be between Hikaru and that Honinbo guy. Like I said big dissapointment. For the eps up to ep.60, 8/10, after that 5/10.
Mm. I'm inclined to disagree.
Firstly, to answer your question, the anime stayed consistent with the manga. They did feature Isumi training in China.
When choosing between too much or too little, I'm glad the manga/anime team went with too little. Better to leave them wanting more, than overstay your welcome. The series could easily have gone on forever, as Hikaru battles Akira again and again and again, while the two move up through the ranks and win/lose various titles. If Akira was only a mid-boss (and I thought it was made clear that Akira would be a main character, and that the series had few villains) it would have ballooned from 75 episodes to 125 easy.
Hikaru is and will always be maybe 1/8th of a step behind Akira. Just enough to where if Touya even slows down, Shindou will pass him. And personally, I like that Hikaru doesn't always win. When he's outclassed (when battling Akira very early on in the series, or taking on his tutor Morishima-sensei) he loses. Akira also loses to top-level pro and his sempai Ogata, lost his new-pro match, and lost an off-screen battle for a title.
I generally don't like shows where the protagonist always wins.
The "Hand of God" was very open to interpretation, but I believe it to be a state where every single move you make is the absolute correct one. To draw from Initial D, it's like being Takumi, where every line you take is THE right one (despite there being endless lines to choose from in a turn) and you begin braking at exactly the right time and you let off the brakes and onto the accelerator at exactly the right time to get the best time. In every turn on the course.
Re: Sai dying. It seemed to parallel real life a bit more, in that people die every day having not fulfilled everything they could. The would-be director who passes away during the making of a film. A parent who dies before the child graduates from high school.
Areguzanda
2007-07-15, 17:54
Mm. I'm inclined to disagree.
Firstly, to answer your question, the anime stayed consistent with the manga. They did feature Isumi training in China.
When choosing between too much or too little, I'm glad the manga/anime team went with too little. Better to leave them wanting more, than overstay your welcome. The series could easily have gone on forever, as Hikaru battles Akira again and again and again, while the two move up through the ranks and win/lose various titles. If Akira was only a mid-boss (and I thought it was made clear that Akira would be a main character, and that the series had few villains) it would have ballooned from 75 episodes to 125 easy.
Hikaru is and will always be maybe 1/8th of a step behind Akira. Just enough to where if Touya even slows down, Shindou will pass him. And personally, I like that Hikaru doesn't always win. When he's outclassed (when battling Akira very early on in the series, or taking on his tutor Morishima-sensei) he loses. Akira also loses to top-level pro and his sempai Ogata, lost his new-pro match, and lost an off-screen battle for a title.
I generally don't like shows where the protagonist always wins.
The "Hand of God" was very open to interpretation, but I believe it to be a state where every single move you make is the absolute correct one. To draw from Initial D, it's like being Takumi, where every line you take is THE right one (despite there being endless lines to choose from in a turn) and you begin braking at exactly the right time and you let off the brakes and onto the accelerator at exactly the right time to get the best time. In every turn on the course.
Re: Sai dying. It seemed to parallel real life a bit more, in that people die every day having not fulfilled everything they could. The would-be director who passes away during the making of a film. A parent who dies before the child graduates from high school.
I totally agree with you.
Hikaru no Go is fatefull to the manga and to me one of the best Anime's ever made.
it really makes you want more of it and I think that with the 76'st episode 2004 new years special it makes for a decent edning of the show too.
even though I would have love to see the japan-China-Korea u18 tournament
but still I love HnG
TougeSil80
2007-07-16, 00:26
Mm. I'm inclined to disagree.
Firstly, to answer your question, the anime stayed consistent with the manga. They did feature Isumi training in China.
When choosing between too much or too little, I'm glad the manga/anime team went with too little. Better to leave them wanting more, than overstay your welcome. The series could easily have gone on forever, as Hikaru battles Akira again and again and again, while the two move up through the ranks and win/lose various titles. If Akira was only a mid-boss (and I thought it was made clear that Akira would be a main character, and that the series had few villains) it would have ballooned from 75 episodes to 125 easy.
Hikaru is and will always be maybe 1/8th of a step behind Akira. Just enough to where if Touya even slows down, Shindou will pass him. And personally, I like that Hikaru doesn't always win. When he's outclassed (when battling Akira very early on in the series, or taking on his tutor Morishima-sensei) he loses. Akira also loses to top-level pro and his sempai Ogata, lost his new-pro match, and lost an off-screen battle for a title.
I generally don't like shows where the protagonist always wins.
The "Hand of God" was very open to interpretation, but I believe it to be a state where every single move you make is the absolute correct one. To draw from Initial D, it's like being Takumi, where every line you take is THE right one (despite there being endless lines to choose from in a turn) and you begin braking at exactly the right time and you let off the brakes and onto the accelerator at exactly the right time to get the best time. In every turn on the course.
Re: Sai dying. It seemed to parallel real life a bit more, in that people die every day having not fulfilled everything they could. The would-be director who passes away during the making of a film. A parent who dies before the child graduates from high school.
While I don't mind the protagonist losing once a while, I would prefer it if he win the last battle. He lost the final battle (of the series) to Akira, that really kinda sucks. It's not really the anime is too short, it's that IMO they focused on the wrong stuff. Isumi was never the main focus, they just brought him back in the last 15 eps trying to fill time. When they could've covered more about Akira and Hikaru. I rather see how Akira play a Honninbo match than those trainin in China.
Sai is already a ghost, don't most ghosts disappear only when their wish is fullfilled So I still think he disappeared too early.
Areguzanda
2007-07-16, 03:15
While I don't mind the protagonist losing once a while, I would prefer it if he win the last battle. He lost the final battle (of the series) to Akira, that really kinda sucks. It's not really the anime is too short, it's that IMO they focused on the wrong stuff. Isumi was never the main focus, they just brought him back in the last 15 eps trying to fill time. When they could've covered more about Akira and Hikaru. I rather see how Akira play a Honninbo match than those trainin in China.
Sai is already a ghost, don't most ghosts disappear only when their wish is fullfilled So I still think he disappeared too early.
As I said. watch the last Eps 76!
there you get a fair ending and a couple of really good matches.
Sai disappeared because he was so impressed by Hikaru's and the other modern player's potential that he decided to leave the Hand of God for them to find. He's a ghost, ya know? They vanish once they have no more regrets.
Nightengale
2007-07-16, 03:42
Sai disappeared because he was so impressed by Hikaru's and the other modern player's potential that he decided to leave the Hand of God for them to find. He's a ghost, ya know? They vanish once they have no more regrets.
Nonsense.
He had a lot of regrets. In fact, he was almost angry. He wanted to play more, he wanted to stay by Hikaru's side, he wanted to achieve the Hand of God...but that was not his purpose of existence. He didn't live after-death for the sake of achieving the Hand of God for himself, he lived to pass it on to Hikaru, but he didn't know of it until that final moment against the Meijin. He eventually came to accept it for what it is, that his role is just to push Hikaru further as a person.
He was sad, but he came to accept it, and cherished it as happiness instead. That he met Hikaru, the times they spent together... and Hikaru's future to walk on the path to the Hand of God.
TougeSil80
2007-07-16, 05:20
As I said. watch the last Eps 76!
there you get a fair ending and a couple of really good matches.
I thought ep.75 is the last ep. The source I use only had 75 eps.
I thought ep.75 is the last ep. The source I use only had 75 eps.
There are 75 TV episodes, plus a 1 hour long New Year's special broadcast that happenned a year afterwards IIRC that picks up the story a bit more.
Areguzanda
2007-07-16, 15:07
There are 75 TV episodes, plus a 1 hour long New Year's special broadcast that happenned a year afterwards IIRC that picks up the story a bit more.
not 1 hour.
90 minutes
Been a while since I've watched it, so wasn't sure.
TougeSil80
2007-07-16, 23:42
I found a 75 minute special, is that the right one?
strategos
2007-07-17, 00:13
Will this series ever be broadcasted on Cartoon network?
wasnt it liscense by it?
Damn, I would like to see this series again; but this time on Cartoon NEtwork
It's featured on Toonami Jetstream, CN's online offering.
Sil80,
I actually liked the non-ending ending. It gives you the vibe that even though the show is over, and that we won't be watching the adventures of Hikaru, Akira, Isumi, Waya, Ochi, Akari, et. al, the lives of the protagonists rolls on.
Sai's dying (don't play semantics, you know what I mean :p) again illustrated real life and how in the real world, we don't choose our time to go. We can't pull a Spike Spiegel and have a poetic death, lasting just long enough until our ultimate goal is achieved.
And you could see that, with Sai attempting to bargain with God for more time on this planet. Everyone thought he would be around forever, but it was not to be.
Sai wanted to achieve the Hand of God. He thought he would had all the time in the world (just like many of us seem to act, day in and day out) but it turns out he didn't (just like all of us, who only have a finite period of time to live).
Sai's refusal to tell Hikaru that his time was running out, denied Hikaru the chance to come to terms and accept Sai's death. Denied Hikaru the chance to say goodbye for the last time to his dear friend. And again, losing friends and family suddenly, happens in life.
I thought it was very well done, and wouldn't be surprised to hear that Sai's death reflected the passing of someone the author knew.
EDIT: And yes, that 75-minute special is the right one. But don't count on it giving you a more conclusive ending -- in fact, it's an even worse stopping point than Ep 75.
TougeSil80
2007-07-17, 03:16
^
I guess that's one way to look at it. I was just disappointed that the first 60 eps are so definitely and well thought out, the last 15 eps just seems like fillers when they could've cover a lot more meaningful stuff. I usually like a conclusive ending. IMO, the Coowboy Bebop ending was great, he did what he wanted to do. It seems like Hikaru isn't even as smart (at go) as Akira. He only improved so quickly because he has the best teacher in the world teaching him. After Sai disappeared he probably won't be improving as fast and lag behind Akira. So that kinda sucks.
Thanks for the info, I'll watch the special anyways, if they cover a good match it should be pretty good.
Areguzanda
2007-07-17, 04:03
I think that the special makes for a better finish though
because in the special
you get to see Hikaru use his real own power and you see that he realle has learned from Sai and that now Sai's game is in the game that Hikaru plays.
Hikaru plays better than ever in the Special.
faustianideals
2007-07-17, 06:34
I remember downloading a set of the episodes, and then deleting them to make room for new episodes on my old 20 GB hard drive computer. I never got to finish the series, got to about 57 if I remember correctly. I loved this show. I want to download/buy the rest of it.
I liked the atmosphere of the show most of all.
Does anyone now why they never entirely completed it? It was only missing one new year's special to reach where the manga ended if I remember correctly.
Does anyone now why they never entirely completed it? It was only missing one new year's special to reach where the manga ended if I remember correctly.
To be totally honest with you, I'd rather it end right where it is rather than end where the manga did.
Dunno why they didn't take it right to the end, but I heard that the japanese fan community had a general consensus that the manga ended in a bad place, which may have been a midigating factor.
To be totally honest with you, I'd rather it end right where it is rather than end where the manga did.
Dunno why they didn't take it right to the end, but I heard that the japanese fan community had a general consensus that the manga ended in a bad place, which may have been a midigating factor.
Ah ok...I never read the last part of the manga. I kept hoping they would follow up with a final new years special but if it was a better place to stop I'm happy they did.
I believe it has to do with people liking their series to end on a high note. The manga doesn't really do that, so it really feels incomplete when you read it if that's the style of manga you're used to reading.
There is apparently 2 "special chapters" that came out after the end of the manga (which I just found out about). I think it does better as an ending. Wouldn't animate too well I don't think though, just because it's so short, and it's timeskip.
passenger
2007-07-18, 05:44
i believe manga is complete in its own way.
in the story it is obvious that hikaru does not have to surpass akira in order to reach god's hand. honinbou clearly states that in order to reach god's hand/perfect game you need to geniuses of equal strength. so i believe the story ends when hikaru levels with akira. in the manga at the end of his match with korean kid (su young maybe?) it is clear that he is on the same level with akira and with some cheesy words story ends. but on the contrary in the anime this is not emphasized/animated.
TougeSil80
2007-07-18, 07:11
I think that the special makes for a better finish though
because in the special
you get to see Hikaru use his real own power and you see that he realle has learned from Sai and that now Sai's game is in the game that Hikaru plays.
Hikaru plays better than ever in the Special.
Just watched the 75min special. It's pretty good. I can accept that as a better ending. It really shows even Akira is not at level 10 yet, and Hikaru is not at level 9 yet. But the difference between the higher class are so small I guess they are about even. The match he played with the Kansai kid really ended it well, so I like this ending much more.
Areguzanda
2007-07-18, 08:03
Just watched the 75min special. It's pretty good. I can accept that as a better ending. It really shows even Akira is not at level 10 yet, and Hikaru is not at level 9 yet. But the difference between the higher class are so small I guess they are about even. The match he played with the Kansai kid really ended it well, so I like this ending much more.
Told you ;)
strategos
2007-07-22, 16:42
This anime was so well done.
Even people that dont like sports anime got into it!.
Great show indeed.
...anyone else started playing Go after watching this? :D
teachopvutru
2007-09-14, 00:51
Great show indeed.
...anyone else started playing Go after watching this? :D
Yes, except I quit after a few days. It was less fun when you played compared to what you've watched. I knew that but ... I started playing anyway. And it was hard even on a 9x9 board :heh:
A friend started playing because of the anime, so I tried it and later on watched the anime. Like the game, it's fun!
Great show indeed.
...anyone else started playing Go after watching this? :D
I tried to solve puzzles like the kind Hikaru did when he first met Tsutsui, but...man, I'm not good with logic. Go is pretty hard. XD
Off-topic, but who is that in your signature? She has a cool character design. :O
Yes, except I quit after a few days. It was less fun when you played compared to what you've watched. I knew that but ... I started playing anyway. And it was hard even on a 9x9 board :heh:
I actually found it to be great fun. I started going to the Go-club in my city and I really enjoy it. The club's really small though, we're about 8 people in one room and our equipment consists of some foldable boards and damaged glass stones of mixed size. :D
And yes, it's hard, and I still suck. :heh:
@ayako: That's Mishima Reika from RahXephon.
FuzzyWuzzy
2008-04-05, 20:34
Just saw episode 14 and it really was such a stupid episode.
Even though this is anime and it has spirits and unbelievable stuff but that guy is an idiot. He can't know his true strength if he played the game in the middle.
WTH!! So stupid. I'm so pissed right now.
IDIOT!
It's been so long since I've seen Hikaru no Go. I really should rewatch it someday.
Anyway,
@ FuzzyWuzzy: My memory is really vague but is episode 14 where
Touya Akira's Dad was trying to test Sai's strength/capacity, but Hikaru ran away in fear during the beginning of the match because he thought Sai was trying to take over his body?
...it sounds like it.
anselfir
2008-04-06, 00:36
hikaru is an idiot, no question about that. before ep 70ish anyway.
It's been so long since I've seen Hikaru no Go. I really should rewatch it someday.
Anyway,
@ FuzzyWuzzy: My memory is really vague but is episode 14 where
Touya Akira's Dad was trying to test Sai's strength/capacity, but Hikaru ran away in fear during the beginning of the match because he thought Sai was trying to take over his body?
...it sounds like it.
To me, it sounds like
the match where Hikaru joined the middle school crew despite still being an elementary school kid. In the middle of a game, he decided to try his own moves (and failed miserably).
To me, it sounds like
the match where Hikaru joined the middle school crew despite still being an elementary school kid. In the middle of a game, he decided to try his own moves (and failed miserably).
That's probably it.
And as for Hikaru acting stupid, it's been years since I saw it again but I always thought he acted like a kid...
Copywrote
2008-04-14, 17:45
Does anyone know/watched that 2003 New Years special of hikaru no go?
He played that wierd guy near that was on par with hikaru, not touya akira, but some other guy from Hong Kong, they were to represent Japan somewhere or something? If i remember correctly, Hikaru played Centered posistion and it was an amazing game, maybe ended in a tie or something and now Akira, Hikaru, guy are representing japan? or i can be horribly mistaken lol
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