Character Discussion - Zero

[Skyfall]

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[germanturkey]

i don't know why, but i get the notion that he's this series' Suzaku. tainted, but still trying to do the "right" thing.

[PreSage]

i don't know why, but i get the notion that he's this series' Suzaku. tainted, but still trying to do the "right" thing.

And that's where the problem lies. He needs to at least try to do something for himself and/or for others.

[myopius]

I don't really understand what spoilers are supposed to be off-limits in this thread, so I'll just assume that manga and unsubbed raws are what's being referred to.

Well, I really like Zero. He's a really good guy who clearly cares about others. Basically a tsundere.

Tainted? Well, Yuuki mentioned in episode 2 that he has "hatred"... but is it really hatred? We can see he's clearly biased against vampires, but he's never given in to his anger and abandoned his responsibility toward the people around him, although he may have been tempted to do so several times by the stress he seems to be dealing with. He's a prefect so that he can protect the day class, since he's sure that the night class will one day reveal its true nature and attack. Even though he hates vampires, he was clearly looking out for Yuuki's feelings when he threw the chocolates to Kaname.

PreSage, what can he do? I haven't watched episode three yet so I don't know what's happened that he's supposed to do. Last I checked he was stressing out over blood. Do you think he should be trying to solve the problem that's stressing him out?

Edit: Added the extra U to YUUKI.

[The Chaos]

His Character Look Very Cool....I Hope His Character Don't Go Like Suzaku From Code Geass...>.<

[PreSage]

PreSage, what can he do? I haven't watched episode three yet so I don't know what's happened that he's supposed to do. Last I checked he was stressing out over blood. Do you think he should be trying to solve the problem that's stressing him out?

Oh, I know more about the story than what the anime showed so far. That's all I can say. But I have to admit that after some deliberation, I may be a bit unreasonable for harping at Zero to get his behind into gear because, frankly, now that I think about it, there may not be a whole lot he can do. He can't simply go and shoot every vampire he sees on campus. So I retract that harping of mine. But I still want to see more of a solid resolve in his character though - one that would give a stronger impression he's made some kind of a decision for himself and will act upon it.

His Character Look Very Cool....I Hope His Character Don't Go Like Suzaku From Code Geass...>.<

Oh dear...I second that. Please do not go the erroneous way of Suzaku. :frustrated:

[White Manju Bun]

His Character Look Very Cool....I Hope His Character Don't Go Like Suzaku From Code Geass...>.<

He's already emo enough :heh: Honestly its a good comparision course Zero isnt out to change anything, he just wants to kill all vampires but again its a good comparision.

@Sage: :heh:

[sapphire-pyro]

Zero . . . loved him when I first saw him xD *loves gorgeous white/gray/silver haired bishies with pistols* xD And his personality, even emo and angsty, he's adorable xD He's also very kind-hearted xD Oh you tsunderes xD

[Avantoe]

Am I the only one that thinks he reasembles Dante from "Devil May Cry" ALOT :) ?

Whenever i watch Vampire Knight, I always keep thinking of Devil May Cry. First of all they look alot like eachother imo, then they have somewhat of a lookalike personality.

[PreSage]

Am I the only one that thinks he reasembles Dante from "Devil May Cry" ALOT :) ?

Whenever i watch Vampire Knight, I always keep thinking of Devil May Cry. First of all they look alot like eachother imo, then they have somewhat of a lookalike personality.

Whoo! That's a better comparison!!!

[nanafan]

haven't seen devil may cry. i like zero, i just think that he shows his feelings differently than yuuki does. i am rooting for him.

[The Chaos]

Well I Didn't See Devil May Cry Too....And Still Cool Guy Who Protect Yuuki From His Heart I Hope He Don't Turn Bad Vampire.. I Like Him..But I'm Kaname-Senpai Fan Girl ...^.^

[PreSage]

If the mangaka makes Zero fall from grace, I will cry. Seriously, I think the poor guy suffers enough.

[Eps~]

Not to mention his Bloody Rose is awesome.

[kaerstan01]

Zero is my faovorite simply because he owns a silver .50 desert eagle kinda gun ^^

[Kai Yukari]

If the mangaka makes Zero fall from grace, I will cry. Seriously, I think the poor guy suffers enough.

T______T Me thinks the same too. But if he finally finds that resolve, he'll be awesome in the coming chapters.

Do you think he'll still turn into a Level-E? I mean, he's got 3 purebloods in his system including Shizuka's, wouldn't that cancel his transformation plus the fact that he's got this awesome hunter lineage.

His Character Look Very Cool....I Hope His Character Don't Go Like Suzaku From Code Geass...>.<

No he's not Suzaku. No way!!! I don't even like Suzaku to begin with >.< Suzaku had decided long ago what he should do and how to go about it (by going to the enemy) and he doesn't emo, he just pawns like Super Kira. Zero hasn't decided yet what he should do and emo a lot, LOL. He hasn't connived with the enemy either. I don't think he is a hypocrite too ;) (I can see Suzaku fans shooting me down :D *hides behind Zero* )

[kaerstan01]

i think that the role of yuuki's blood that flows in his veins right now is to prevent him from transforming into a level E vamp and at the same time triggered the awakening of some kind of a vampiric power(along with yuuki's own awakening of becoming a vampire herself) that would result on him having vampire abilities or transforming him into a demi-vampire or sorta with a hunters talents and capabilities that makes him not that miserable but cool:heh::heh:

OT:
i'm a suzaku fan and yeah, i admit that his an idiot

[The Chaos]

No he's not Suzaku. No way!!! I don't even like Suzaku to begin with >.< Suzaku had decided long ago what he should do and how to go about it (by going to the enemy) and he doesn't emo, he just pawns like Super Kira. Zero hasn't decided yet what he should do and emo a lot, LOL. He hasn't connived with the enemy either. I don't think he is a hypocrite too ;) (I can see Suzaku fans shooting me down :D *hides behind Zero* )
Well I Said I HOPE ....B/c I Liked Suzaku In The First Ep's Of The Anime...Then He Turn To Most Hated Character At The End Of First Season...That Why I Don't Want The Mangaka Makes The Same Mistake And Make People Hate Him:upset:

[Westlo]

lol I actually like Suzaku more now than I did at the start, especially once he stopped doing his best impersonation of Kira Yamato. I don't think you have to worry about Zero doing a Suzaku though..

[Eps~]

There are some similarities with Suzaku yeah, but Zero is way cooler :p

[PreSage]

T______T Me thinks the same too. But if he finally finds that resolve, he'll be awesome in the coming chapters.

Do you think he'll still turn into a Level-E? I mean, he's got 3 purebloods in his system including Shizuka's, wouldn't that cancel his transformation plus the fact that he's got this awesome hunter lineage.



No he's not Suzaku. No way!!! I don't even like Suzaku to begin with >.< Suzaku had decided long ago what he should do and how to go about it (by going to the enemy) and he doesn't emo, he just pawns like Super Kira. Zero hasn't decided yet what he should do and emo a lot, LOL. He hasn't connived with the enemy either. I don't think he is a hypocrite too ;) (I can see Suzaku fans shooting me down :D *hides behind Zero* )

After chapter 39, I don't think he'll turn into a level-E now. He has three purebloods' blood in him for goodness sake. Maybe he'll rise to a level A+ :heh:

I am still confused by what Kaname said, how Zero took all his brothers power. It seems that Zero's vampire hunter ability is more than just physical skill; I get the impression he also harbours a unique power of his own. Whoa, is the manga pumping Zero up now. lol!

I support you in your Zero IS NOT Suzaku opinion. Suzaku's undignified and foolish, naive, overly unrealistic idealism made me drop Code Geass. It's the first time ever that an anime or manga character got so much on my nerve that I dropped a series because of him. At least Zero knows what honour and dignity is.

[nanafan]

i like zero he's cool the kind of silent dude i guess.

[Sinta]

Not a fan of Zero, I think he's an emo. Just my personal opinion. I do think he's important to the story.

[Razziell22]

Zero is awesome, my favorite character

[pinkey]

i like zero he is cool , handsome but i wish that He will not Turn to a Bad Vampire

[NoOneKnowS]

He's the destined one. The main character of the series. Everything/Anything that happens to him will affect the direction of the series.

Though he needs to swallow his pride for once and team up w/ Kaname to protect Yuuki. He owe's so much to her I'm really hating how he can all just throw it all away and call her "nothing but just a vampire who smells like blood"(I know it's not the excat same line but something along those lines lol'). How can he. o_O.

Fangirls will probably reply w/ he yea he's just confused blah blah. I know; just hope it doesn't take long enough before he realizes everything.

[PreSage]

The one thing that irks me is that he should stop sitting there sulking and be all frustrated with himself and life, but start planning for some kind of a strategy. Although I understand his hatred for turning into a vampire but he should bite the bullet, accept his fate, and make use of his new awesome power while he can, like how Dante (Devil May Cry) and Blade - who also despises that demonic side of themselves - accept who they are and make the best of it.

In a way, he should thank Kaname for giving him the chance to finally kill some vampires. :heh:

[Kai Yukari]

The one thing that irks me is that he should stop sitting there sulking and be all frustrated with himself and life, but start planning for some kind of a strategy. Although I understand his hatred for turning into a vampire but he should bite the bullet, accept his fate, and make use of his new awesome power while he can, like how Dante (Devil May Cry) and Blade - who also despises that demonic side of themselves - accept who they are and make the best of it.

In a way, he should thank Kaname for giving him the chance to finally kill some vampires. :heh:

:D oh my, we're talking in secrecy here, hehe.

You got to give him time to collect himself with all that has happened to him PreSage, ^___^. He's been betrayed by his twin brother then the only girl he cares for and even his mentor locked him up. I don't know if he can get any more jaded than he is now but there's a possibility that the bullet Ichiru put in him will jolt him from his dazed despair ~ literally, hehe. I don't believe he will immediately go to Kaname's side and agree to his plan, based on his personality so far, he will go about killing Rido his own way without Kaname manipulating him

[Eryna]

Zero is awesome, my favorite character
^ What s/he said ! I also like his sarcastic side, Zero is the best :D

[HayashiTakara]

Zero is too much like a certain emo from Narutard, don't really like his character archetype.

[Vanehei]

Zero its cool and hot
and i dont know why people "hates" people with emotions......

[Eps~]

Well, almost everyone would become emo if they were bitten and left to their dark fate ... imo :o

[ShuiMei]

I don't usually care for characters who are too "emo" but Zero does it so well and just engages my sympathies and attention. He's also terribly attractive and I like his grumpy, sarcastic personality XD

[HayashiTakara]

He cuts himself, thats enough for anyone to not like him, lol

[advertise.here.55]

Zeros a Pretty bishie but hes a bit "emo" or whatever what you wanna call it.

Bloody rose is a awesome gun! :D I like his tattoo....

[ZzMichaelzZ]

I hate Zero=P

i like kaname the most , and wish that yuki will marry him =P

but i don't think that will happen so easily =(

[EhrinUCHI]

I like Zero he's cool and and I like his grumpy, sarcastic personality XD well I hope Yuuki will end up with Zero.

[Eryna]

I hate Zero=P

i like kaname the most , and wish that yuki will marry him =P

but i don't think that will happen so easily =(

Sorry but I find sad to hate a character (Zero) only because you are a KanamexYuuki shipper :/
Personally I like ZeroxYuuki better but that doesn't make me hate Kaname, actually I like him a lot.

[Kai Yukari]

Sorry but I find sad to hate a character (Zero) only because you are a KanamexYuuki shipper :/
Personally I like ZeroxYuuki better but that doesn't make me hate Kaname, actually I like him a lot.

I second the motion. :nod:

When I think of emo, I usually imagine guys or girls crying too much while despairing and are too sensitive that they react in a negative fashion. I don't think Zero is *that* emo. Zero has a reason for his angst, he became what he hates. He is aware of what he may become that's why he is introverted. It would be weird to see a well-rounded guy with such a dark past. You can only have 2 outward defenses against people getting too close to you: the first would be to always smile and be accommodating just like Fay on the other hand you could be harsh to others and unobliging. Zero falls in the latter category.

[White Manju Bun]

Sorry but I find sad to hate a character (Zero) only because you are a KanamexYuuki shipper :/
Personally I like ZeroxYuuki better but that doesn't make me hate Kaname, actually I like him a lot.

I def agree with your statement, I am a KanameYuuki shipper but thats not the reason I dislike Zero. It seems trivial to dislike a character soley based on ship preferances.

Zero is emo, we've all established that :heh: I guess why I dont like this vers of emo is cuz of how he ends up treating Yuuki due to it. She wants to help him, even feels bad when she makes the comment about vampires in epi 3. But when she refuses to shoot him he gets all uptight and tells her to pretty much get out of his life. That I have a problem with. Obviously the guy has issues, given his family life and whatnot but this isnt something new to anime, I just dont like how he deals with it all.

[Queeny]

I def agree with your statement, I am a KanameYuuki shipper but thats not the reason I dislike Zero. It seems trivial to dislike a character soley based on ship preferances.

Zero is emo, we've all established that :heh: I guess why I dont like this vers of emo is cuz of how he ends up treating Yuuki due to it. She wants to help him, even feels bad when she makes the comment about vampires in epi 3. But when she refuses to shoot him he gets all uptight and tells her to pretty much get out of his life. That I have a problem with. Obviously the guy has issues, given his family life and whatnot but this isnt something new to anime, I just dont like how he deals with it all.

indeed , I don't like his acts towards Yuuki .. also it's not the ends of the world whats happened to him .. he have to be in realty and do something ...

[Yonaka-Mikuzuki]

This is probably reversing the conversation, but Zero was the character I liked most in VK. Having read far passed the anime for a long time, like many others his life does have many issues, yet it makes him the diverse character from the "overly optimistic" Yuuki (at least before she became...)

Zero is definitely one of those taken-back and self-reserved character that brings interfering conflict to VK. Everyone knows he really likes Yuuki, but his pride being found out as a level E vampire made him keep his distance from really anyone close to him because he wanted to protect them. So I don't believe he should be referred as "emo" but a soul that has been mercilessly tortured for many years. And there are still people who are willing to bring him back to the hopes of reality.

[Sandara Lee]

Me: Zero kick some ass now please!
Zero: :chomps down a cookie:
Me: ....

I like Zeero looking chibi than emo in the anime. :D

[cebukitty]

why do so many people badmouth zero for being too "emo"? with the emotional baggage he's lugging around, it'd be downright weird if he acted too cheerful or totally apathetic about his current condition.


i like zero, i think his character is quite admirable. considering zero's past, its a wonder he didn't grow up to become a violent psychopath. i mean for cripe's sake, if your family gets murdered, your twin brother betrays you, and you turn into that same monster which destroyed your family...what do you expect?

but zero by sheer force of will tried to keep his vampiric instincts in check for four years...even kaname was impressed by that fact. though he really really hates vampires to his very guts, he manages to act civil around them, and only gets violent if he feels they're threatening yuuki or other humans. its also worthwhile to note that zero never desired to suck anybody else's blood but yuuki's -- IMHO, that betrays his unspoken desire/love for yuuki more than anything else.

i'm really looking forward to seeing Zero in total vampire hunter kick ass mode... those 3 pureblood strains in him should count for something other than raising his level above Level E! :D

[Yonaka-Mikuzuki]

Very nicely said words cebukitty, much better than me,....-laughs- but you totally have a good point, I dunno if people will be slightly offended by this, but Zero's childhood only mirrors Sasuke's EVERY so slightly. To tell the truth, I'm actually not a Naruto fan, but there are so many animes where the sufffering of one's childhood brings the downfall of the character, but Zero's has another thing to look forward in life and that's Yuuki.. But once her vampire instincts kick in, I'm not entirely sure how her "closeness" to Zero will change because of her total personality change.

[Kai Yukari]

why do so many people badmouth zero for being too "emo"? with the emotional baggage he's lugging around, it'd be downright weird if he acted too cheerful or totally apathetic about his current condition.


i like zero, i think his character is quite admirable. considering zero's past, its a wonder he didn't grow up to become a violent psychopath. i mean for cripe's sake, if your family gets murdered, your twin brother betrays you, and you turn into that same monster which destroyed your family...what do you expect?

but zero by sheer force of will tried to keep his vampiric instincts in check for four years...even kaname was impressed by that fact. though he really really hates vampires to his very guts, he manages to act civil around them, and only gets violent if he feels they're threatening yuuki or other humans. its also worthwhile to note that zero never desired to suck anybody else's blood but yuuki's -- IMHO, that betrays his unspoken desire/love for yuuki more than anything else.

i'm really looking forward to seeing Zero in total vampire hunter kick ass mode... those 3 pureblood strains in him should count for something other than raising his level above Level E! :D


I have the same views as you except the Yuuki part. ;)

I dunno if people will be slightly offended by this, but Zero's childhood only mirrors Sasuke's EVERY so slightly. To tell the truth, I'm actually not a Naruto fan, but there are so many animes where the sufffering of one's childhood brings the downfall of the character, but Zero's has another thing to look forward in life and that's Yuuki.. But once her vampire instincts kick in, I'm not entirely sure how her "closeness" to Zero will change because of her total personality change.

No I don't think he's a Sasuke, their pasts are different. No older brother to hate, no clan to re-establish, and no Narutard to tail his ass. Besides that, their goals are also different. He didn't aim to be powerful and go to the enemy to get his revenge.

I just don't see why Zero keeps being compared to Sasuke, Suzaku and other (I-don't-even-want-to-use-the-term-anymore) characters. God forbid he gets to be compared to Kira Yamato next.

[Stardust Romance]

Yeah,sometimes comparing characters to other characters gets alittle annoying sometimes.
Zero is Zero.
That's all we need to know.
[and i luv him lol xD]

But yeah,there has been some rather good points about Zero's reason on being...emo.
Before in the manga,I was quite annoyed by it.His angst and his pain was pretty repetitive that I started not to like him much as I did with Kaname but I guess that's because bad things kept on happening to him repeatidly.Sure some people are sympathetic no matter what but there's sorta a limit for me before it get irritating.NO I DO NOT HATE ZERO....but I'm just waiting PATIENTLY for him to get out of his emo fest & kick some ass.

Hey,it can be a great stress reliever for him
Who knows xD

[MercFH]

Erm even tho im a guy Zero is still my favorite out of the "male" characters.(tied with headmaster for being too funnay)

Ruka is obv my fav char in the series
BUT ANYWAYS I dunno zero seems to emo sometimes. but at the same time, i mean he feels guilty for the things he does, and seems most like a "normal" person/despite being a vampire. i dunno he's pretty kewl

[zetsubousensei]

Ya, everyone keeps saying that he's emo....he is....and I love it XD! Well, his reasons are valid, I mean, he has become the last thing, his most hated creature, on top of that add all the crap he's going through. He reminds me of Hamlet, angst ridden and in despair....I don't even know how I made that relationship, but I picture Hamlet as the "dark prince" and Zero as a "dark prince" (even though he's not a prince..meh..it works in my head)...or he can be related to Itoshiki from SZS, always in despair, but he's funny...Zero...not so much....

[Alea Misa]

Zero is a great character, he's dynamic i agree. I don't think he is really emo, since he has such a strong will, and spirit from what he has gone through. Being emo is surrendering yourself in the sorrow and pain, and be completely blinded by it. He's gone through a serious rough patch the past four years, and trying to suppress something that utterly goes against his nature and who he is, is something that has worn away his charismatic and optimistic attitude, along with seeing his family killed right in front of him, as others have mentioned. He's a private person, and chooses to keep people at a distance because he chooses not to bother people with his issues. Zero has had to grow and mature more than anyone else his age. He has a cold attitude at times, because getting too close to people would just complicate things, and he is very protective as he knows how dangerous vampires are, and part of his nature is influenced by the vampire hunter clan he is/was apart of, so his first instinct is to follow the guidelines of such. They are trained to keep their distance from people, never to get too involved, and handle their own situations, etc...Plus, I think Zero hides alot of his emotions for Yuki, and I think he is in 'love' with her, I've never seen him more vulnerable with anyone except her, and he is always so protective of her, and it explains why he cares so much for how she feels...out of everyone else. And I do think he does get jealous of Yuki's affection and admiration she has for kaname-senpai, but at the same time he cares for her happiness and safety. And this is based on the anime episodes I've watched. I haven't gotten to the manga yet.

[ani_d]

Well as far as the anime goes, Zero's affection for Yuuki can also be labeled as sisterly. The same as how Yuuki cares for Zero. Yuuki definitely supports him, but that can't automatically mean Zero has to be in love with her to care for her.

I guess Zero's attitude towards Yuuki is too subtle for me to label it as 'romantic'. It's good.

[White Manju Bun]

Well as far as the anime goes, Zero's affection for Yuuki can also be labeled as sisterly.



Ermmm I dunno since one of the major issues I have with Zero is how he treats Yuuki. Her relationship toward him I see as sibling like, but I think its more on her end. Yes he cares for her but I think he can show it a bit better. Brotherly isnt a word Id use to describe his relationship with her. Maybe...ermm...ok I cant think of a word :heh:

[tenken627]

The problem with many emo characters in stories is that the emo-ness often makes them more simpler in character. Like Suzaku who sometimes seems to be nothing more than a naive brat many times.

I think that the emo-ness makes Zero's character to seem even more complex instead, enough to be the most complex character in all of Vampire Knight. I never got the feeling that Suzaku was an extremely complicated character.



And when we found out that Kaname actually was using Zero as a pawn or chess piece for four years? Even to the point where Kaname might have wanted Zero to fall for Yuuki (so that Zero would accept her blood). He's been playing with Zero and his emotions this whole time.

Kaname hating Zero was one thing. But, to find out that he's been just using Zero this whole time?

Gahhh, that makes me despise Kaname even more.

[White Manju Bun]

And when we found out that Kaname actually was using Zero as a pawn or chess piece for four years? Even to the point where Kaname might have wanted Zero to fall for Yuuki (so that Zero would accept her blood). He's been playing with Zero and his emotions this whole time.

Kaname hating Zero was one thing. But, to find out that he's been just using Zero this whole time?

Gahhh, that makes me despise Kaname even more.



Honestly...Kaname using Zero didnt surprise me at all, infact I expected it of him. Ill never hate Kaname and I dont hate Zero, I just dislike him but really if he didnt know he was being used...it was obvious.

[King Lycan]

._. I know this is pretty random
But I don't like Zero one bit he just acts strange for me he is way to quiet like itachi :heh: but i don't think he see's yuuki as his sister :o

[tenken627]

Honestly...Kaname using Zero didnt surprise me at all, infact I expected it of him. Ill never hate Kaname and I dont hate Zero, I just dislike him but really if he didnt know he was being used...it was obvious.



Well, it was kinda obvious on the fact that Zero was being used by Kaname, but not in the way Kaname made it sound in Chapter 39. I was thinking that Kaname was using Zero more in the lines of internal politics within their school only, and not in the outside Vampire/Vampire hunter world.

Instead, Kaname has tried to mold and shape Zero into an actual weapon, one that could be used to destroy his enemies from the outside world such as Rido.

Wasn't it Kaname who commented on the fact that Zero should have special unique abilities due to his vampire blood mixed in with his vampire hunter lineage? And, we just haven't seem them yet?

Great plot twist either way.

[Satsuki Yuuhi Ramius]

I also like him.For me Zero is Natural Bishounen.He is silent,cold and cool

[NoOneKnowS]

Zero is a great character, he's dynamic i agree. I don't think he is really emo, since he has such a strong will, and spirit from what he has gone through. Being emo is surrendering yourself in the sorrow and pain, and be completely blinded by it. He's gone through a serious rough patch the past four years, and trying to suppress something that utterly goes against his nature and who he is, is something that has worn away his charismatic and optimistic attitude, along with seeing his family killed right in front of him, as others have mentioned. He's a private person, and chooses to keep people at a distance because he chooses not to bother people with his issues. Zero has had to grow and mature more than anyone else his age. He has a cold attitude at times, because getting too close to people would just complicate things, and he is very protective as he knows how dangerous vampires are, and part of his nature is influenced by the vampire hunter clan he is/was apart of, so his first instinct is to follow the guidelines of such. They are trained to keep their distance from people, never to get too involved, and handle their own situations, etc...Plus, I think Zero hides alot of his emotions for Yuki, and I think he is in 'love' with her, I've never seen him more vulnerable with anyone except her, and he is always so protective of her, and it explains why he cares so much for how she feels...out of everyone else. And I do think he does get jealous of Yuki's affection and admiration she has for kaname-senpai, but at the same time he cares for her happiness and safety. And this is based on the anime episodes I've watched. I haven't gotten to the manga yet.

No; He doesn't have a strong will. He was crushed when he discovered what Yuuki really is. And no; the she's a vampire; I hate vampire argument doesn't cut it. If he was strong willed then he'd accept her when Yuuki bothered to come all the way to his doorstep. But noh; He trashed her. That's not really mature of him either. And that's what I don't like about him. He's simple minded. He doesn't really think things through(unless given the time). At least he's in jail now. He has plenty of time to use his brain.

[Oxtail]

I'm in the "dislike Zero because he treats Yuuki badly" category. The more she throws herself at him the more I'm getting turned off to the story. I know lots of girls love those hot troubled bad boys who they need to nurture with their maternal instincts, but I'm not a fan of that kind of romance. Just a personal preference.

It's similar to my dislike of the earlier episodes of Itazura na Kiss. Can't really stomach stories where the girl throws herself at the guy for no good reason. Even though I love romance animes, I dropped Lovely Complex after like the fourth time Risa threw herself at Otani and got shot down.

[dbj]

I def agree with your statement, I am a KanameYuuki shipper but thats not the reason I dislike Zero. It seems trivial to dislike a character soley based on ship preferances.

Zero is emo, we've all established that :heh: I guess why I dont like this vers of emo is cuz of how he ends up treating Yuuki due to it. She wants to help him, even feels bad when she makes the comment about vampires in epi 3. But when she refuses to shoot him he gets all uptight and tells her to pretty much get out of his life. That I have a problem with. Obviously the guy has issues, given his family life and whatnot but this isnt something new to anime, I just dont like how he deals with it all.


well isnt that just proves he cares about her? he just probably dont want her to see him as a vampire or even to suck her blood. well its obvious zero has something for her from the start and this why i like zero he doesnt want to harm others

[White Manju Bun]

I'm in the "dislike Zero because he treats Yuuki badly" category. The more she throws herself at him the more I'm getting turned off to the story.



I totally agree with that. Its what I was thinking but wasnt able to articulate. Even in recent epis she seems really just annoying with it. Atleast in Zero's case he calmed down about it but still Yuuki was getting on my nerves.

[tenken627]

We know how Kaname feels about Yuuki, but what about Zero?

How does Zero exactly feel about Yuuki?

He feels close to her due to their always being together for 4 years, but could you call it love or romantic interest? Their relationship isn't exactly a brother/sister relationship. And now, he has guilt on top of everything he feels in regards to Yuuki.

[White Manju Bun]

We know how Kaname feels about Yuuki, but what about Zero?

How does Zero exactly feel about Yuuki?

He feels close to her due to their always being together for 4 years, but could you call it love or romantic interest? Their relationship isn't exactly a brother/sister relationship. And now, he has guilt on top of everything he feels in regards to Yuuki.

Zero's feeling for Yuuki are interesting, I dont see it as a love relationship or bro/sis, Im not exactly sure how youd classify it. 1) Zero doesn't always treat her the best but cuz of Yuuki's stubborness and loyality too him he's always seemed to be "saved" by her. 2) Zero has said on several occasions that Yuuki is really the only person he wants to kill him if he gets to Level E. He gave her the gun for this reason. I think their relationship is almost soley based on each being there for eachother in anytime even if Zero doesnt always want it that way. but for his own sake Yuuki doesnt appear to be going anywhere :heh: Im sure there is a word for what I just typed out but kami help me if I can think of it.

[zetsubousensei]

Zero's feeling for Yuuki are interesting, I dont see it as a love relationship or bro/sis, Im not exactly sure how youd classify it. 1) Zero doesn't always treat her the best but cuz of Yuuki's stubborness and loyality too him he's always seemed to be "saved" by her. 2) Zero has said on several occasions that Yuuki is really the only person he wants to kill him if he gets to Level E. He gave her the gun for this reason. I think their relationship is almost soley based on each being there for eachother in anytime even if Zero doesnt always want it that way. but for his own sake Yuuki doesnt appear to be going anywhere :heh: Im sure there is a word for what I just typed out but kami help me if I can think of it.

Really good best friends? Lol. That's the only word I can think of. At the moment in the anime, I think they're juuuust teettering (how do you spell that word?:confused: ) between really, really good friends and lovers.

In regards to Zero's bad treatment of Yuuki, I personally think he doesn't want Yuuki to be in any harm. He cares for her so much that he thinks that by pushing her away, she won't know about his problems and he doesn't want her to worry. Well, sadly that's reallly backfiring on him, and it looks like he's treating her badly. I can't really explain it, but I understand his character because I know I do the same as well, I don't want to hurt other people around me and worry, but when they start to worry and care I get frustrated because I think they're just gunna end up hurting themselves and I retort back in a really b*tchy way or rude way and come off saying the completely opposite of what I feel. [Talk about a run-on sentence extreme there..yay!]

[tenken627]

It's actually kinda interesting if you think about it.

I mean, we kind of know Yuuki's feelings for both Kaname and Zero. We know Kaname's feelings about Yuuki, especially if you've read the manga. We know Kaname's and Zero's feelings for each other pretty much right from the start.

But, it's really hard to tell Zero's feelings about Yuuki, which I think is the most complex and unknown part of the relationship triangle.

What is Yuuki to Zero?

Could it be that deep inside he affectionately cares for Yuuki, but rejects that idea, even to himself? And in doing so, treats her badly in an immature manner? Unlike Kaname, Zero is still a teenager.

Or does Zero hurt so badly inside that he wants to wall everyone out, and Yuuki is just someone who keeps trying to come inside his walls, so he lashes out harder at her than he does at other people?

Maybe Zero views Yuuki as the symbol of everything that is right (or wrong) with his life, but doesn't know how to react to that?

Could it be some combination of those or something else?

How much does the guilt of taking Yuuki's blood compound Zero's feelings towards her?

[HayashiTakara]

Er.. I think you guys are making Zero's feelings for Yuki more complex than it really is. He pushes her away because he's afraid of hurting her, and he obviously likes her, from the viewers perspective he seems like an open book to me.

[tenken627]

Er.. I think you guys are making Zero's feelings for Yuki more complex than it really is. He pushes her away because he's afraid of hurting her, and he obviously likes her, from the viewers perspective he seems like an open book to me.

It's a little more complex than the other feelings because like you say, he may be an open book to you, but he's not open to himself. And that's if you are reading him right. Because we really don't know exactly. We can guess, but we still don't know.

[White Manju Bun]

We're making it complex cuz Zero is complex :heh: He likes her yes, but I dont think he "likes" her. I think its more of a "your-the-one-person-in-this-world-I-trust-the-most-but-cant-tell-you-that" mindframe

[HayashiTakara]

I dunno, if you go by standard Shoujo law, two guys vying for the main females affections. Pretty standard here, we have Kaname and Zero as the two guys and Yuuki as the main female. I don't really get the confusion?

[Westlo]

Er.. I think you guys are making Zero's feelings for Yuki more complex than it really is. He pushes her away because he's afraid of hurting her, and he obviously likes her, from the viewers perspective he seems like an open book to me.

Yeah I thought that was pretty obvious too...

[Vinak]

Zero's feeling for Yuuki are interesting, I dont see it as a love relationship or bro/sis, Im not exactly sure how youd classify it. 1) Zero doesn't always treat her the best but cuz of Yuuki's stubborness and loyality too him he's always seemed to be "saved" by her. 2) Zero has said on several occasions that Yuuki is really the only person he wants to kill him if he gets to Level E. He gave her the gun for this reason. I think their relationship is almost soley based on each being there for eachother in anytime even if Zero doesnt always want it that way. but for his own sake Yuuki doesnt appear to be going anywhere :heh: Im sure there is a word for what I just typed out but kami help me if I can think of it.

. Clingy .

[BellaD]

Er.. I think you guys are making Zero's feelings for Yuki more complex than it really is. He pushes her away because he's afraid of hurting her, and he obviously likes her, from the viewers perspective he seems like an open book to me.

I dunno, if you go by standard Shoujo law, two guys vying for the main females affections. Pretty standard here, we have Kaname and Zero as the two guys and Yuuki as the main female. I don't really get the confusion?

Completely agree.....you guys are overthinking this. :S

[Manji Midou]

I can't wait for the nurses's office scene to be animated I wonder how much commotion will go on then, I, myself can't wait it was one of the best moment in the manga to date.

As for Zero's feelings towards Yuki....it's pretty obvious what they are....

[baka.tenshi]

I love Zero. He is my favorite character - plus he is so pretty <3

[Kai Yukari]

Zero's full potential has been unlocked, the poor cement ^___^ .... BTW was that really him at the last page of chapter 40?

[HayashiTakara]

I love Zero. He is my favorite character - plus he is so pretty <3

When you associate a man with the word "pretty"... you know theres something wrong, lol :heh:

[Ashura666]

I would say he is not 'pretty' as such but has many qualities, not only look, that are quite admirable... :D

Just have to look at the way he is with Yuki in the flashbacks of his arrival at the school... and compare that to the way is very overportective over her when it came to the meetings with Maria etc..

His eyes are just adorable aswell IMO...

[phishn37]

I think Zero is a butthead ~ ! There, I've said it.

Kaname is much, much better for Yuki-san.

[goodvsevil01]

Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Zero is better!!!!!!!!!! i vote for Zero...
Zero is much more beautiful and hawt than Kaname, really!!!!! take a closer look. and his feeling is much more sincere. Zero, i'm always here for you...

[King Lycan]

Zero's feelings for Yuuki are more sincere then Kaname >_< Get out of here...
If it really was Zero wouldn't be sucking Yuuki's blood ya know

[WindTraveler]

True he wouldn't be sucking her blood and it looks like he has some control over when he can suck Yuuki's blood...some...just a tiny bit at least.
I will admit that Zero is somewhat mean to Yuuki.
So Zero is not my favorite character in this series I'll tell you that.

[Kai Yukari]

I also don't like how Zero was (portrayed) in the anime :mad:, I don't think anyone would love him in the anime ~~ but I love him when I first read the manga years ago. By the way (right now), I only recognize the existence of the manga and not the anime :p.

That particular incident was out of Zero's control. He's been fighting it for so long (his vampiric instincts) that it came to a point where he couldn't contain it anymore (remember even the pills weren't enough to stave off his thirst). It's like pent-up rage, you release it in one go and then you immediately regret it. He was devastated and disgusted with his self, letting out his animal instinct on the woman he loves, to the point where he considered committing suicide to atone for it. I also don't think Zero was particularly mean to Yuuki, he's just your typical tsun tsun male and if you're reading the VK extra chapters, you can see that beneath the distant facade (and all the emotional barriers he'd put up) he cares for Yuuki's well being. Kaname wouldn't rely on him to protect his beloved "sister" if he wasn't so sure of Zero's feelings.

[ShuiMei]

I watched the first few episodes of the anime but the filler scenes and poor quality turned me off so I've stopped, so manga-only for me. With that, I've never really felt that Zero treated Yuki particularly badly. Is he distant? Yes, but he was always that way, it's not like he suddenly started being cold towards her. He's always cared about her, that is clear but he's never been an open person. Yuki has always tried to "get in" but you can't expect Zero to just open up to her when he's shut people out for so long, especially considering that he is very much afraid of hurting her. Moreover, I can't imagine he be particularly confident in investing/expressing his feelings too much when he has long known (and witness first hand) how Yuki feels about Kaname.

Personally, Zero is just so much more engaging for me than Kaname, who just doesn't interest me at all. He has all the physical bishounen features working for him but his character just doesn't engage my attention. In a nutshell, he bores me, which is a damn shame considering he's so pretty.

... and LOL @ Zero being tsun tsun XD

[Ithonya]

Zero's feelings for Yuuki are more sincere then Kaname >_< Get out of here...
If it really was Zero wouldn't be sucking Yuuki's blood ya know

Uh....hello?! Yuki's the one who offered him her blood! The first time he drank he blood he wanted to kill himself. The only reason he didn't was because Yuuki didn't want him to. He's always putting her feeling first and will gladly risk his life for her.

Not to be mean or rude but I don't see why everyone likes Kaname so much. I mean he's been manipulating everyone from the start. Him being so mean to Zero just makes me hate him more.

[PreSage]

Not to be mean or rude but I don't see why everyone likes Kaname so much. I mean he's been manipulating everyone from the start. Him being so mean to Zero just makes me hate him more.

Umm, if you look at the poll (even though it's anime-only), most here seems to like Zero more than Kaname. :eyebrow: At least, that's the impression I'm getting.

[Queeny]

Umm, if you look at the poll (even though it's anime-only), most here seems to like Zero more than Kaname. :eyebrow: At least, that's the impression I'm getting.

yes indeed ..
as we saw from the anime poll a lots in zero side !! :confused:

by the way :

did they really vote for zero ?? or vote for his voice actor : Miyano Mamoru :D

the anime ver not like the manga ! I'm looking forward to another pool ... after season 2 .. I want to know if the result will still the same ?!!

I hope they don't change anything like what they did in the first season :eyespin:

[King Lycan]

Uh....hello?! Yuki's the one who offered him her blood! The first time he drank he blood he wanted to kill himself. The only reason he didn't was because Yuuki didn't want him to. He's always putting her feeling first and will gladly risk his life for her.
Well he should know when ever he drinks her blood he could kill her...

Not to be mean or rude but I don't see why everyone likes Kaname so much. I mean he's been manipulating everyone from the start. Him being so mean to Zero just makes me hate him more.
I don't like Kaname..I feel feel neutral towards him..and i don't think he is manipulating anyone..
Why should he be nice to Zero..he is a treat.

[Fo0oFi]

Well he should know when ever he drinks her blood he could kill her....

True ,, but he's turning into a vampire and sinking slowly to level E do u think that he can control his thirst of blood easily ?!
i'm not saying that he should drink her blood (he's already hating himself because of that) i'm saying give the poor guy a break he's suffering alot from this Vampire Transforming thing let alone all the crapy things he's been through

[Hamtaro623]

I love zero! they way he's all emo and suicidle makes me love him only more <333

[Morier]

Lol. xD
Everyone keeps saying he is emo.
I think he has some emotional problems... >>
But I've seen WAY more emo then him. xD

[CMHerrera]

I like Zero he's nice and a little quiet..and.. I don't think he's emo. Sure his parents got killed and now he want to kill vampires but he is not emo not every person who has a bad child hood is one. He shows other emotions then sadness and hatred. *tisk tisk*

[Deadwings]

He shows other emotions then sadness and hatred. *tisk tisk*

Yeah, I swear I saw him smile a few times :D :heh:

[Crontica]

More than emo hes just phsssed off on how things turned out, his brother hates him for the stupidest of reasons, a random vampire came and WTFbPwned his family, any one would be depressed after that.

[Stardust Romance]

Yeah, I swear I saw him smile a few times :D :heh:

True that :mad:
( and he only does it for Yuuki, so cute >w< )

And as far as I know, emos don't smile.
Zero is just angsty.....really angsty.

[xoxobleach]

i dunno but zero should not be hurting yuuki if he really loves her...


but i guess reasons for drinking her blood:

1. he loves her and so long for her blood only

(he said that her blood tastes of longingness of kaname)

but kaname has been longing for yuuki blood and has not drank hers up to the anime at least so he has more restraint!

though of cos drinking her blood has implications like turning her into a vampire since he is a pure blood (no spoilers here common sense)

but still, ZERO ought to be more disciplined!!!! but what to do, level E.


hiak, i keep trying to bring zero down, but there are valid reasons for his lack of self restraint oh wells.


and i guess zero likes being in debt to yuuki which is sickening cos he ought to step up and be a man! he shouldnt need reasons to be in debt to yuuki or protect her. he should just protect her out of his love for her. period.

[Deadwings]

I'd like to remind you that Zero was bitten when he was a kid, and it was a few years before he actually surrendered to his vampire impulses. So it's not like he didn't fight his vampire impulses.
Also, Kaname didn't drink her blood for other reasons (read the manga for more info), AND being a pureblood, he doesn't have the same urge that ex-human vampires have to drink blood.

[CMHerrera]

Yeah, I swear I saw him smile a few times :D :heh:

Zero Smiling, I need to find him smilling in a picture now that would be nice.

True that :mad:
( and he only does it for Yuuki, so cute >w< )

And as far as I know, emos don't smile.
Zero is just angsty.....really angsty.

True about that, most of his smiles oh I mean all of his smiles are seen him with yuuki how
nice. Even thought hes adopted I guess there still not related so. To me coupling chance. :D

[xoxobleach]

I'd like to remind you that Zero was bitten when he was a kid, and it was a few years before he actually surrendered to his vampire impulses. So it's not like he didn't fight his vampire impulses.
Also, Kaname didn't drink her blood for other reasons (read the manga for more info), AND being a pureblood, he doesn't have the same urge that ex-human vampires have to drink blood.


yes, you brought up good points.

yea i know about the other reasons :)

but i think he does have urges if not he should not have drunk ruka's. esp urges to yuki but i guess those other reasons are more imortant to him.

[golthin]

Does anyone think that now the roles are reversed? yuuki and Zero until the awakening , from yuuki's point of view had a sibling relationship. Yuuki has been in love with Kaname all this time but the fact that he was a vampire has kept her from going ahead. Now, yuuki know that she and Kaname are siblings and that she is a Vampire herself, and that she can no longer be by Zero's side. You want what you can't have the most. Kaname X Yuuki is a given. Yuuki X Zero is now the impossible love.

[snowmaiden05]

^ true..

I just feel for him, because even way back when they were still kids, he kinda supports Yuuki with her feelings towards Kaname [Valentines Choco].. I remembered he once said
"The only one you need is Kuran Kaname, it has been like that for you ever since, right, Yuuki?" but I hope that something comes up and makes Zero x Yuuki pairing a dream come true~ :3 *sigh*

[areku07]

i always wonder if Yuuki and Zero would end up together..

[King Lycan]

No.. if u saw the last episode u know it isn't going to happen
Zero's wants to kill her now.. which i doubt he can :rolleyes:
i told the fan girls that Zero and yuuki are never gonna happen :rolleyes:

[Slick_rick]

Well, it isn't over yet, manga-vise at least... while Zero wants to kill her I too doubt he can go through with it too but I think the coming chapters are just going to make them both grow and change. Plus if the events of the anime happened in the manga the same way I would give KanamexYuki a better chance but certain events Yuki is still in the dark about in the manga. Honestly with the latest developments I more certain than ever of a Zeki ending.

Us fanboys didn't get that memo but like the fangirls we will put in its proper place, the trash.:heh:

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

I don't think that Zero can ever truly be happy with Yuuki unless he overcomes his hatred of vampires. And more then just not hateing Vampires he has to accept it. His own Vampirism and Yuuki's. A real relationship means that you accept every part of the other person. Regardless of whether you like or don't like Kaname, it can't be denied that he excepts her. That's why at this point
Zero X Yuki isn't likely to happen.

Maybe it's for the best. Zero's a big boy and I want him to stand on his own.
I want him to move forward without Yuuki holding his hand ,or hoding him back ( Wichever you feel it is :p) This is probubly just me. I want to see him strong and not always living in the past. I want him to overcome all he has been through and I don't think he can do that with Yuuki. (She always just wants to protect him that's all )

Likewise Yuuki needs to figure out who she really is, and she can probubly only do that with Kaname and the other Vampires.

The tide is changeing.

[yoh_fangirl]

Maybe it's for the best. Zero's a big boy and I want him to stand on his own.
I want him to move forward without Yuuki holding his hand ,or hoding him back

i cant agree more... im quite curious to see what he will do,because he's basically shunned from both the vampire community and the hunters association. will he form an alliance with cross + co. or go all rogue?

[CMHerrera]

i always wonder if Yuuki and Zero would end up together..



And Yukki turns to a vampire Zero want to not believe it. And has trouble with it, and shows he still really cares about her even though he hates her for being a vampire ~♥

[DarkestHour]

zero is the coolest one!

[Kiyokimmy]

He's the destined one. The main character of the series. Everything/Anything that happens to him will affect the direction of the series.

Though he needs to swallow his pride for once and team up w/ Kaname to protect Yuuki. He owe's so much to her I'm really hating how he can all just throw it all away and call her "nothing but just a vampire who smells like blood"(I know it's not the excat same line but something along those lines lol'). How can he. o_O.

Fangirls will probably reply w/ he yea he's just confused blah blah. I know; just hope it doesn't take long enough before he realizes everything.

....He killed the guy in season 2 to protect Yuuki, because Kaname couldnt.(wuss)

I really like zero, and dislike kaname,

dont hate me kaname lovers.
I TRIED TO LIKE HIM,
but all i can say is kaname is a cute kid, but a jerk when hes older.

Zero loves yuuki so much, he might show his low differanter,and he might not be like the chairman, but his life has been really hard. Ichiru is dead too now, and atleast kanamee has yuuki still as a sibling. Zero has nobody now..

Zero is so sweet, and never wants to backstab her! its just so sweet ):

i love zero, i want a guy like zero :]

Yummmy!:p

P.S i know he owes alot to her, but he protects her too! sometimes those lvl E vampire pop out and try to attack her, but out of NOWHERE zero pops out and protects her :P

And also, its probley just cause Zero hates vampires, and hates the fact he got turned into one. He had such a hell life, and has suffered so much. And he even said he would try to do anything to make her not a vampire, and he found out shes apureblood, he dosnt hate her, he hates purebloods.

Honostly i like human yuuki ):
she was nice(vamp yuuki is nice to but) but she always has funny moments
anywhere
with vampire Yuuki, its so ...well, dull.
Like the relationship between kaname and yuuki.

i get so bored watching them it feels like they just went to a funeral >_>


GO ZERO AND YUUKI <33:D

[Kiyokimmy]

I don't think that Zero can ever truly be happy with Yuuki unless he overcomes his hatred of vampires. And more then just not hateing Vampires he has to accept it. His own Vampirism and Yuuki's. A real relationship means that you accept every part of the other person. Regardless of whether you like or don't like Kaname, it can't be denied that he excepts her. That's why at this point
Zero X Yuki isn't likely to happen.

Maybe it's for the best. Zero's a big boy and I want him to stand on his own.
I want him to move forward without Yuuki holding his hand ,or hoding him back ( Wichever you feel it is :p) This is probubly just me. I want to see him strong and not always living in the past. I want him to overcome all he has been through and I don't think he can do that with Yuuki. (She always just wants to protect him that's all )

Likewise Yuuki needs to figure out who she really is, and she can probubly only do that with Kaname and the other Vampires.

The tide is changeing.

i think zeroxyuuki can happen , because he still loves her, but more the human side.

but i dont think he can actually kill her, maybe his hatred for vampire/purebloods is big, but he loves yuuki SO Much.
But maybe without yuuki he can find a way to controll his vampire side even MORE, ( not likely without yuuki but) maybe he can become the vampire hunter he is and become less confused.)

i just dont want yuuki with kaname, even though i feel kinda bad kanamee has been waiting 10years, but still there siblings. Though there parents did it they dont have to do it.
After thinking about it, it'd be interesting if Yuuki ended up with neither of them XD

i know it wont happen, but that way its fair. =]
i feel so bad, when yuuki was like
"Human yuuki has died."
._.

i really liked human yuuki more, she was more fun to watch in the episodes ):

[Kiyokimmy]

True he wouldn't be sucking her blood and it looks like he has some control over when he can suck Yuuki's blood...some...just a tiny bit at least.
I will admit that Zero is somewhat mean to Yuuki.
So Zero is not my favorite character in this series I'll tell you that.

Zero is mean to yuuki because hes always trying to tell her to go away or stop bothering him, because he dosnt WANT to suck her blood. IF she leaves him alone he wont HURT her.

He dosnt want to EVER hurt her, but sometimes his vampire side takes over, i mean you gotta understand, hes putting her infront of him.

Therefore i love zero :D

[Kiyokimmy]

I watched the first few episodes of the anime but the filler scenes and poor quality turned me off so I've stopped, so manga-only for me. With that, I've never really felt that Zero treated Yuki particularly badly. Is he distant? Yes, but he was always that way, it's not like he suddenly started being cold towards her. He's always cared about her, that is clear but he's never been an open person. Yuki has always tried to "get in" but you can't expect Zero to just open up to her when he's shut people out for so long, especially considering that he is very much afraid of hurting her. Moreover, I can't imagine he be particularly confident in investing/expressing his feelings too much when he has long known (and witness first hand) how Yuki feels about Kaname.

Personally, Zero is just so much more engaging for me than Kaname, who just doesn't interest me at all. He has all the physical bishounen features working for him but his character just doesn't engage my attention. In a nutshell, he bores me, which is a damn shame considering he's so pretty.

... and LOL @ Zero being tsun tsun XD


i know! seriously!

Kaname has such ADOREING eyes! but hes so much like the character in EVERY storyline.

at first i thought VK was like twilight, edward being kanamee and jacob being zero.

Kanamee is so similar to edward, but zero is like jacob with a twist, its like
Edward+Jacob+a little cool mean side.

Idk but Kanamee bugs me. i dont understand how people say
" when i see parts with kaname and yuki my heart jumps"

seriously, i find it REALLY boring at those parts O_o
when its zero and yuuki something always interesting comes seriously!
Like him trying to suck her blood, thats interesting then dullness.
With kanamee and yuuki it feels like

( i've said this before)
someone died or somthing, seriously.. i do feel bad for kanamee abit because hes been waiting so long, but hes a good brother.
But i do think zero would be a nicer bf for yuuki

they fit so much better then kanamee+yuuki ( even though i know there destined.)

[Kiyokimmy]

:DUh....hello?! Yuki's the one who offered him her blood! The first time he drank he blood he wanted to kill himself. The only reason he didn't was because Yuuki didn't want him to. He's always putting her feeling first and will gladly risk his life for her.

Not to be mean or rude but I don't see why everyone likes Kaname so much. I mean he's been manipulating everyone from the start. Him being so mean to Zero just makes me hate him more.


I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOUVE SAID :D especialy the fact everyone likes kanamee. He was a cute kid, but i dont like him older, maybe if he gave yuuki and zero a LITTLE more space i'd like him , but hes a good brother, but i dont like the way he treats Zero.

He makes him suffer, then uses him and throws him away.

but in every story, there has to be a BAD GUY.

:)

yup, thats right, i just called kanamee a bad guy.
like the witch in snow white
:D

i want zero and yuuki together<3 but i wouldnt mind yuuki and kanamee being really close siblings.

That way, Kanamee can STILL love yuuki but in a cute sibling way ;)
while zero can be with yuuki:D
and yuuki can be with both of them!~

and if zero SERIOUSLY looses control kanamee can be there :)

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

:D



He makes him suffer, then uses him and throws him away.

but in every story, there has to be a BAD GUY.



The only thing that kaname did to Zero was give him his blood. And wasn't that to keep him from going crazy and to make him strong enough to protect yuuki? Throw him away? When has kaname ever controlled him. Zero only ever did what he wanted to do. And Kaname is not Yuuki's brother. They are from the same clan but thats it. Yay they were raised together because Kaname didn't have any parents.

[yoh_fangirl]

The only thing that kaname did to Zero was give him his blood. And wasn't that to keep him from going crazy and to make him strong enough to protect yuuki? Throw him away? When has kaname ever controlled him. Zero only ever did what he wanted to do. And Kaname is not Yuuki's brother. They are from the same clan but thats it. Yay they were raised together because Kaname didn't have any parents.

this is actually what messes me up about VK. Kaname is her brother, but just in he physical. Apparently he is possessed by one of their ancestors or something like that...

what i want to know is- who is the vampire knight? Zero would be my guess

[Droplet]

Kaname = Yuuki's brother's body infused with the soul of the first Kuran (the one who did this was Rido)

Yes, they are real siblings. Yes it's incest. I love it because it's not real.

[Scarlett_Rain55]

Im getting tired of zero and his self pitying party. He's become way too, I hate this word with my guts, emo...If they want a tragic character they should look up Zuko from Avatar. He is just well done!

[Kai Yukari]

Yes, and I'm also tired of people referring to Zero as emo. For a change refer to him as the tool discarded by Kaname. It would be about fair to see him punishing Kaname a little bit for that.

[equinox]

OH I'M IN LOVE WITH ZERO!!!! and I've been through the whole series.. <3

his outward apearence, his personality.. he's just too perfect to be true <3 (and it's kinda depressing to know that there aren't guys like him in real life...:( )

I think he was the one who really was in love with Yuuki
(and not Kaname. I can't believe Kaname being happy with Yuuki.. I think what Kaname feels is not really LOVE.. he just feels like protecting Yuuki and while he did that because of the promise he gave his parents he only got used to the idea of marrying her because his parents were siblings, too. So I would say his feeling is just an illusion, and is nohow what I would define LOVE)

But it's different with Zero..

mainly the end of episode 13 really touched me... I mean although he knew that she's a vampire, he wanted to give her the last chance to prove him that she's still the old Yuuki.. and it was kinda heartbreaking him walking through the empty school and remembering the good times they had.. I think the reason why he wants to chase her is not because he really wants to kill her.. i think it's because he can't let go.. it's just an alibi.. and that proves me, how deep his love is.. and if I'm not wrong, Yuuki never told Kaname that she leaves with him because she's in love with him.. it was rather because she didn't want to leave him alone because he was always there for her... but on the other hand if she wasn't in love with Kaname, Zero must have been noticed it according to the taste of her blood.

But there's an episode in the anime when there's a ball of the council and in the previous episode Zero wanted to kiss her but didn't.. and she rembers this moment and blushes and wonders why she has to think about that...
that was what lets me think that she's unconscious in love with zero.. and that she will realise in the following chapters that she's in love with Zero and not Kaname.

[Scarlett_Rain55]

That girl who has a crush on zero should end up with him. They are too cute!

[royalekitty]

Yeah I think it's sad too that Yuki x Zero isn't likely to happen..

[Wargumm1i]

I just wished that Zero would have his happy moments, because so far this has only bin painful for him, I mean nothing goes the way he wants and he has all the reasons too hate vampires.

I mean so far all the favors have bin against him, and he is well rather and really unfortunated character.

[Ikan]

woa...Zero..mmmm

He's mysterious, hot, cute, brave, a bit ignorant..Well He's everything I've been looking for a guy lately but.mmm I don't know what's missing..I'm not into him really.why why?

(haha cause my bfs hotter..^^hahaha)
In some way Kaname has a different kind of being mysterious..Even though they both have similarities..both are strange...but I have to admit kaname's sweeter and calmer than zero..^^

[Lacus Li Britannia]

They're really different, but we must remember that Kaname was born as a pureblood vampire, Zero has been turned in a vampire. What a cruel destiny for an hunter to become what he hates the most...

[KimmyChan]

Zero is ok, but he's not one of my favourite VK characters and never will be :p

I can't put my finger on as to why exactly, I've just never really liked him that much :/

[ila-chan]

Anyone ever noticed that Hino sensei always drawn Zero in bandages/bloodied? I wonder why is it so...

For me, Zero's a great character. The only thing is that he kinda have some sort of a bad luck. I like how hw sounds to (Ok, I love all Miyano-san's characters). But I have to admit, listening to Kaname's voice alone would felt like he's making love to you (go ahead and listen to Kaname Good Night CD! Zero's is a bit boring though)

[KimmyChan]

Zero kinda freaks me out at points the way he acts around Yuuki, almost obsessively :p

[Stardust Romance]

Zero kinda freaks me out at points the way he acts around Yuuki, almost obsessively :p

So does Kaname lol :heh:

They're both pretty much obsessed with her.

[KimmyChan]

Lol! That is very true! You have a good and valid point there! :D

Well, I guess when you put it like that, it really isn't too bad a thing, lol! :p

[Vash099]

Their crazy 4 yuuki!!

[KimmyChan]

Zero does have somewhat of a strong personality as such though :)

[Kai Yukari]

Zero kinda freaks me out at points the way he acts around Yuuki, almost obsessively :p

Eh?! I think the only obsession he had was NOT to turn Yuki into a vampire which is futile since she was born one. Pretty much on everything else he's quite resigned that Kaname would always be first in Yuki's heart to the point that he even reminded Yuki that "It's not me you need, it's Kaname Kuran"

Kaname's much more obsessive and possessive with Yuki. He'd confessed as much in the last chapter that he plotted his way (time period being 10 years in the making) to be able to protect her on his own =D why do men like him and Zero only exist in manga?! grrr...

[KimmyChan]

Come to think of it, I guess the whole Yuuki & Zero togetherness could actually work :p

Especially now that Yuki's learnt that Kaname is actually her older brother & that they're related :p

[Slick_rick]

Eh?! I think the only obsession he had was NOT to turn Yuki into a vampire which is futile since she was born one. Pretty much on everything else he's quite resigned that Kaname would always be first in Yuki's heart to the point that he even reminded Yuki that "It's not me you need, it's Kaname Kuran"

Kaname's much more obsessive and possessive with Yuki. He'd confessed as much in the last chapter that he plotted his way (time period being 10 years in the making) to be able to protect her on his own =D why do men like him and Zero only exist in manga?! grrr...

Zero biggest fear was that he'd end up hurting or killing Yuki. The whole her becoming a vampire thing only came to worry about later when one she tried to sacrifice herself to Shizuka so Zero wouldn't have to turn in a Level E and when she herself suggest becoming one to become stronger. He of course was against it and said he'd not like it happen but of course it there was no way for him to prevent it in the first place.

Also I think you're taking what Zero said out of context. When he said that it was Kaname she needed it was because she was implying the complete opposite of what you're saying, that Kaname was first in her heart. He rejected those feelings for many reasons. He needed Kaname to help reveal her past, he owed Kaname for helping him live so he could stay by Yuki side for a while longer, and because he was still going to eventually turn into a Level E. While Zero might fear Kaname is first in her heart I don't think it's by any means a forgone conclusion. I said the opposite is actually much much more likely. Hell if Zero hadn't rejected her by the time Kaname came he probably be treated to quite a different scene.:heh::naughty:

[KimmyChan]

Zero totally deserves a happy ending with Yuuki, not one of despair and sadness :(

[Kai Yukari]

Zero totally deserves a happy ending with Yuuki, not one of despair and sadness :(

He deserves to live and have a happy ending period =D

[KimmyChan]

It's amazing that in just the space of a few days my opinion has totally changed about him & for the good aswell :)

[Code Geass]

It's amazing that in just the space of a few days my opinion has totally changed about him & for the good aswell :)

Ah, the wonders of the world... :) (No, I'm not being sarcastic. :heh:)

He deserves to live and have a happy ending period =D

But of course, what with all that he had to put up with throughout his life. Loss of family, suffering for four years, turning into a vampire... Not very pleasant. :sad:

[KimmyChan]

I can't even begin to imagine what that must feel like if it were to happen for real :(

[Code Geass]

I can't even begin to imagine what that must feel like if it were to happen for real :(

Neither could I. I mean, he lost his family at such a young age in such a horrible way. Then, once he finally turned vampire, it was like he wasn't allowed to forget about it (not that it'd be easy to do in the first place). He was being constantly reminded about it just by being surrounded by other vampires, and now he is one? Man, now I understand more why he never looked that happy.

Help him, Yuuki!! :help:

[Supernatural]

Zero is my favourite character at VK!!!...his story is so sad, and he deserves to be loved from Yuki!!She should go with him,not Kaname!:frustrated::D

[KimmyChan]

Neither could I. I mean, he lost his family at such a young age in such a horrible way. Then, once he finally turned vampire, it was like he wasn't allowed to forget about it (not that it'd be easy to do in the first place). He was being constantly reminded about it just by being surrounded by other vampires, and now he is one? Man, now I understand more why he never looked that happy.

Help him, Yuuki!! :help:

:help: :help: :help: him indeed Yuki! He needs you now more than ever! :(

Kaname has such a huge VK fan following & service on here in the form of us! ;) :D

[HollowScar]

Zero kinda freaks me out at points the way he acts around Yuuki, almost obsessively :p

I wouldn't say Zero is obsessed with Yuki, but just protective of her. The problem with Zero is he is emotionless in situation's where you expect him to have lot's of emotion's.

Sure, Kaname treats him in an unfriendly way, but he is still very impolite to others such as Yuki, the Headmaster, and Toga Yagari (Vampire Hunter), who care for him. Even if Kaname was nice to him, he would still be a jerk. He goes by the rules, and that's it. If Yuki is a human, he protects her. If Yuki is a pureblood, he will eventually kill her just for that. He does not bend his rules. Even though Kaname cured him, he still points his gun to Kaname.

Zero is a lone wolf and like Batman it will hurt him. His reason to live is Yuki, but he will still go after her to kill her. Once he kill's her, that's it. He will then lose the last string in his life. Really sad for a guy, who has more potential than the loss. Plus, now that he is a vampire, he has to live his life for hundreds of years. Death might be a gift to him.

[KimmyChan]

Zero is definately like an over-protective older brother towards Yuki, but in some ways it isn't a bad thing :)

[Code Geass]

I wouldn't say Zero is obsessed with Yuki, but just protective of her. The problem with Zero is he is emotionless in situation's where you expect him to have lot's of emotion's.

Sure, Kaname treats him in an unfriendly way, but he is still very impolite to others such as Yuki, the Headmaster, and Toga Yagari (Vampire Hunter), who care for him. Even if Kaname was nice to him, he would still be a jerk. He goes by the rules, and that's it. If Yuki is a human, he protects her. If Yuki is a pureblood, he will eventually kill her just for that. He does not bend his rules. Even though Kaname cured him, he still points his gun to Kaname.

Zero is a lone wolf and like Batman it will hurt him. His reason to live is Yuki, but he will still go after her to kill her. Once he kill's her, that's it. He will then lose the last string in his life. Really sad for a guy, who has more potential than the loss. Plus, now that he is a vampire, he has to live his life for hundreds of years. Death might be a gift to him.

The impoliteness might just be an aspect of his personality, but after the events that took place in his past went through, it's really just impossible to tell. :heh: Zero's just a guy with one goal in mind and a thick skull (except around Yuki, but even then it's pretty difficult for her to get through to him). But, can anyone blame him, even Kaname-sama?

[KimmyChan]

I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but Zero is beginning to grow much more on me now :)

[Code Geass]

I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but Zero is beginning to grow much more on me now :)

I guess it happens to all of us eventually. :)

[KimmyChan]

That it does, and is natural I guess as the storyline progresses :D

[equinox]

That it does, and is natural I guess as the storyline progresses :D

I agree!!!

And whatever people say, I'm convinced that he will be the one ending up with yuuki...:eyespin:

[KimmyChan]

It certainly is starting to look more & more that way indeed :)

[HollowScar]

Zero is not a hundred or thousand year old pureblood vampire who has a whole bunch of followers. He is not an intelligent mastermind who plans ahead of time, or someone who has a whole bunch of fan following in the day class.

He is just an average guy with the problems. His parents died from a vampire, which he did not let go. His brother betrayed him, for a vampire. He was bitten by a vampire, and the only person that could save him from turning into a level E, is also a vampire. Also, it wasn't Yagari (Vampire Hunter) that made him the strongest vampire hunter, but Kaname, who is a vampire. In the end, the person he cared for the most, Yuki, turned out to be a vampire, and told him that the old Yuki was gone. What would you do, if that happened to you?

What does that tell you about him? He is a young man, and is bound to filled with anger. He is in a phase that is common for people his age, who lack experience. He hates Vampire's, but Vampire's shaped his life. He does not have any credibility. He was supposed to be the strong Vampire Hunter, but instead became a vampire himself, and had to be saved by a vampire (Kaname). This made him feel like a wuss, who had to be protected by his own enemy. This is why lot's of us can feel for him, because he is nothing without Vampire's.

In life, Zero is in a path that will only hurt him, the more he ventures into it. This is evident, when Ichiru died. Poor Zero. No one to protect him. He is only powerful now, because of Kaname.

As for those of you, that say that he is selfish, he actually cares for her. He protected her several times in the anime. During the end, he declared that he would eventually kill her, because she is a vampire. This may make him selfish, but he did she her in a flashback later on, which shows that he will miss her.

[Slick_rick]

^I don't know if Zero would be nothing without Vampires but I certainly no one thing he would be, happy. You seem to want him to thank them for playing with and ruining his life like it was some sort of game including Kaname, Shizuka, Rido and the Vampire Council. If anyone is to blame for the path he takes it is them. Whether Zero kills all the Vampires or not rest at there feet.

Kaname himself is similar with the vampire council. He believed them to be "evil" and Zero certainly thinks of purebloods as that also and from what he's seen and experienced because of them I don't necessarily disagree. Kaname lumped the whole council as evil but certainly there were one or two who didn't like to burn babies, etc., just like there is certainly a few "good" purebloods, but that didn't stop him from murdering all of them. Zero does the same for the "greater good" so if Kaname life ends up in ruins I don't really see how I'll shed any tears about it. Kaname helped create the person Zero is now and he should live with the consequences of it. Though I believe Zero is a much better person that Kaname and won't resort to mass murder in the end.

[equinox]

Zero is not a hundred or thousand year old pureblood vampire who has a whole bunch of followers. He is not an intelligent mastermind who plans ahead of time, or someone who has a whole bunch of fan following in the day class.

I don't think that Zero is an average guy withou any power.. chapter 50 proves us how powerful he is now (he gets angry and the windowpane goes bust --> normally just a pureblood would be able to do smth like that)
so after drinking Kaname's, Yuuki's, Ichiru's and indirectly Shizuka's blood he seems to have a power which maybe will make him able to compete with Kaname!!!
And after becoming the presiedent of the Hunter's Association he might have many followers as well...

I think with chapter 50 we have a change for Zero's situation.. he might have been the one people felt sorry for.. but now it seems that he has matured and can stand on his own feet (he can't depend on yuuki or another person any more.. he knows he is alone) having much more power than other hunters or normal vampires

[HollowScar]

I don't think that Zero is an average guy withou any power.. chapter 50 proves us how powerful he is now (he gets angry and the windowpane goes bust --> normally just a pureblood would be able to do smth like that)
so after drinking Kaname's, Yuuki's, Ichiru's and indirectly Shizuka's blood he seems to have a power which maybe will make him able to compete with Kaname!!!
And after becoming the presiedent of the Hunter's Association he might have many followers as well...

I think with chapter 50 we have a change for Zero's situation.. he might have been the one people felt sorry for.. but now it seems that he has matured and can stand on his own feet (he can't depend on yuuki or another person any more.. he knows he is alone) having much more power than other hunters or normal vampires

You are right. He is strong like a pureblood, but who made him that? Kaname did. This only depreciates his character, as he is a weakling who is nothing much by himself. If only Yagari helped him, he would be a much weaker vampire hunter.

I don't understand, why he has to kill other purebloods, when the pureblood that killed his parent's died. I know that he is a vampire hunter, but he is what he is because of the blood from the purebloods that makes him stronger. It's a fair deal. Zero gets cured in exchange for looking after Yuki. Zero becomes the world's strongest vampire hunter, in exchange for defeating Rido. Now they are even, and should leave each other.

As for Zero, I feel sorry for him, because he looks like he will never be happy, and live a lonely, and meaningless life.
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By the way, I don't know where to ask this, but does anyone know an dark anime's like Vampire Knight with tragic end. If so email me at mdbowness@yahoo.ca because this is a forum only for Zero.

[equinox]

I don't understand, why he has to kill other purebloods, when the pureblood that killed his parent's died. I know that he is a vampire hunter, but he is what he is because of the blood from the purebloods that makes him stronger. It's a fair deal. Zero gets cured in exchange for looking after Yuki. Zero becomes the world's strongest vampire hunter, in exchange for defeating Rido. Now they are even, and should leave each other.


I would say he wants to kill them all because pureblood have the power turning humans into vampire.. and he has the opinion that every pureblood would do such a thing cause they are all just "beasts"


As for Zero, I feel sorry for him, because he looks like he will never be happy, and live a lonely, and meaningless life.
yeah i feel the same.. but i think in the end there will be happy ending for zero.. cause Kaname will have a cused life as Shizuka said.. if he would end up with Yuuki in the end his life wouldn't be cursed at all, right?
I think yuuki will understand that Kaname was her first crush, but that she doesn't really love him.. IMO you can't really love someone if you still have to think about another man...

[Slick_rick]

You are right. He is strong like a pureblood, but who made him that? Kaname did. This only depreciates his character, as he is a weakling who is nothing much by himself. If only Yagari helped him, he would be a much weaker vampire hunter.

Zero is far from a weakling. Even before being turned into a vampire he was one of the most talented and gifted vampire hunters. He was able to spot Shizuka even before his parents did. Purebloods are so powerful even there own kind fears them so I don't know how Zero not being as strong as them before makes him "weak". Your definition of strength is warped if your strandard is only pureblood levels as them everyone in the show except them would be a "weaklings".



I don't understand, why he has to kill other purebloods, when the pureblood that killed his parent's died. I know that he is a vampire hunter, but he is what he is because of the blood from the purebloods that makes him stronger. It's a fair deal. Zero gets cured in exchange for looking after Yuki. Zero becomes the world's strongest vampire hunter, in exchange for defeating Rido. Now they are even, and should leave each other.


I don't understand why Kaname had to kill the entire vampire council. It was Rido who killed his parents and not only that who is the say all of them had any part of the dealings with Rido? He lumped them all together and slaughtered them did he not? When did he ever try to change them instead of spending them in the school trailing after Yuki? If he was truly as intelligent and cunning as people make him out to be I can't see a reason why he couldn't find a different way to take care of the council.


Also I don't think it much of a fair trade. Zero doesn't value being the strongest vampire hunter especially if that means being turned more into something he hates. Zero lost his parents, lost his brother, was made into the things he hates the most, lost Yuki and in exchange he gets possibly "cured" so he can continue living as existence he despises. :confused: Fair deal? I think not.


As for Zero, I feel sorry for him, because he looks like he will never be happy, and live a lonely, and meaningless life.

Zero seemed happy when he was with Yuki but that world came crashing down on him and from what I've seen she seemed happier with him too. Either way his meaning in life now is destroying the purebloods and it's a fairly logical conclusion he reached. Lives have been put in danger/destroyed by their games. Kaname should take responsibility for the lives lost from killing the council which I believe was far from unavoidable maybe at that point in time but he certainly had years to try to take care of them/find a solution. Zero's one of the many tragic victim of these games but Kaname is someone who helps spread tragedy. All the while with an air of "I did it for the greater good" which I find laughable when we actually see the results of his meddling.



By the way, I don't know where to ask this, but does anyone know an dark anime's like Vampire Knight with tragic end. If so email me at mdbowness@yahoo.ca because this is a forum only for Zero.

offtopic- Ga-rei Zero would be my personal recommendation as a tragedy fan. Also there is a suggestions forum specifically for questions like this so you can get others opinions.

http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=15

[KimmyChan]

Wow, that sure was some lengthy discussion :)

[HollowScar]

Thank you. Either way, both Zero and Kaname have questionable future's. Zero lost everyone including Yuki at the end. Kaname has a sinister future as Shizuka said, even though both Yuki and him reunite at the end of the anime.

When I said that Zero was a weakling, I meant that he was physically weaker than the night class vampire's. He sensed Shizuka, because he was supposed to be the stronger twin (Poor Ichiru). When Zero pointed the Vampire gun (Bloody Rose) at Kaname, the night class vampire's got defensive. They could have taken him down easily before. Now, Zero is much stronger thanks to all the pureblood blood in his body. All I am saying is that Zero may be strong, but he hates the fact that it is because of vampire blood, rather than his own achievement.

I can understand that he was a strong vampire hunter, but now he is the world's strongest. Even more stronger than Yagari. All this vampire influence in his life, only makes his life harder, now that he hates his own existence.

One thing that I do not understand is, why does Zero have to kill Yuki? She may be a vampire now, but she was always there for him, even giving her own blood to him. She is an innocent bystander in Kaname's game, who helped a human like Zero. Even though she said, that the old Yuki was gone, she still cares for Zero. She will always run from him, so that Zero can have a reason to live. Zero says he will eventually kill her, but why? There a a whole bunch of purebloods that he could kill. Plus, it's like a disease to drink blood. Zero himself suffered from this, but he still want's to kill pureblood's, just because they turn others into vampire's. Zero should leave the path of Vampire Hunting, and acknowledge being a vampire himself. He would only destroy himself, if he ever killed Yuki, even though she is a pureblood.

Thank you again, Slick_rick, for clearing up some misconceptions, and helping me with other animes, and thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive.

[Stardust Romance]

Gosh, why can't more VK fans be like this?

If you go onto any other site, you see nothing but rabid fangirls bashing eachother like animals. This site is a safe haven for me lol xD

It keeps me sane :)

[HollowScar]

Gosh, why can't more VK fans be like this?

If you go onto any other site, you see nothing but rabid fangirls bashing eachother like animals. This site is a safe haven for me lol xD

It keeps me sane :)

Thank you. I am a guy, and love Vampire Knight because of the soundtrack, the story, and the whole dark atmosphere. The rest is a plus. I can understand if there are fan girls who can be bizarre. For example, Light and L from Death Note being gay.

I like the two characters Zero, and Kaname against each other. The reason why I root for Zero, is because, he is a guy, that a lot of us guys can relate to. The loner, who feels dumbed down by everyone else. The guy who does not want your help, but needs it anyways. The guy who is in pain, and yet cannot reveal it to others. Zero is a bit extreme though, as he is arrogant towards others, to the point of hurting himself later on.

[KimmyChan]

BunnyCupCakes is right, this sure does make a nice change, & shows just how much more mature we are here :)

[Slick_rick]

When I said that Zero was a weakling, I meant that he was physically weaker than the night class vampire's. He sensed Shizuka, because he was supposed to be the stronger twin (Poor Ichiru). When Zero pointed the Vampire gun (Bloody Rose) at Kaname, the night class vampire's got defensive. They could have taken him down easily before. Now, Zero is much stronger thanks to all the pureblood blood in his body. All I am saying is that Zero may be strong, but he hates the fact that it is because of vampire blood, rather than his own achievement.

Not really true. We never shown that he's in anyway weaker than the Night class students. He was able to make Kain look like a fool when he tried to place a hand on him and was not afraid even though they outnumbered him by a lot. The time I'm talking about him sensing Shizuka was when she attacked his house. He was the first to notice even before his parents, who were considered elite vampire hunters. Also I never seen any indication that Zero has any qualms with how he achieved his power. Yes, he doesn't like being a Vampire but this has nothing to do with power but in fact the very nature of vampires(blood sucking), his fear and worry of going insane of killing people, and his hatred for what happened to his family. Your assumptions aren't really based on solid facts.



One thing that I do not understand is, why does Zero have to kill Yuki? She may be a vampire now, but she was always there for him, even giving her own blood to him. She is an innocent bystander in Kaname's game, who helped a human like Zero. Even though she said, that the old Yuki was gone, she still cares for Zero. She will always run from him, so that Zero can have a reason to live. Zero says he will eventually kill her, but why? There a a whole bunch of purebloods that he could kill. Plus, it's like a disease to drink blood. Zero himself suffered from this, but he still want's to kill pureblood's, just because they turn others into vampire's. Zero should leave the path of Vampire Hunting, and acknowledge being a vampire himself. He would only destroy himself, if he ever killed Yuki, even though she is a pureblood.

Well I honestly don't think Zero will kill her but he wanted to push her away. Zero has always been like that. When he she was human he was worried that he end up killing her and now that they're incapable for each other. She'll live an eternity and him just a fraction of that time. Also accepting her would be akin to accepting Kaname and the rest of the purebloods. I think he truly hates Kaname and in the end I don't think they'll ever be anything more than enemies. They're just too different at their cores.

One of the main reason I like Zero is because he doesn't accept being a vampire. Would you accept being turned into a rat? Having to eat garbage and crawl around sewers? Or would you deny that existence a chose to live as a human or how you wanted to? Everyone is different. Some would accept being a vampire easily while some it will be much harder and others will never accept it. Would he happier if he could accept it? Probably, but you can't to force a square into a hole made for a circle. Zero doesn't even truly seek happiness anymore. He wants to stop what happened to him from happening again. Zero has always been a selfless person.


I like the two characters Zero, and Kaname against each other. The reason why I root for Zero, is because, he is a guy, that a lot of us guys can relate to. The loner, who feels dumbed down by everyone else. The guy who does not want your help, but needs it anyways. The guy who is in pain, and yet cannot reveal it to others. Zero is a bit extreme though, as he is arrogant towards others, to the point of hurting himself later on.

Well I agree he's more relatable, especially more so than Kaname who I truly could never relate to, I don't agree with the reasons. Zero is a lot more strong willed than people give him credit for. When Kaname mentions that his vampire blood should be telling him to obey and fear him but Zero defies him instead. That I can relate to. Like Zero, I prefer to die on my feet than live on my knees. He also one of the most tragic of victims because he did nothing to the people who caused him pain. The only one he did anything to was Yuki who he said could kill him anytime she wanted to. Zero hatred and distrust of Vampire is also understandable. I wouldn't trust them in Zero shoes and I'd hate probably more as I'm not a kindhearted as he is.

[HollowScar]

True. Zero was strong from before, but he became much stronger after he had the three purebloods blood in him. The thing about Zero is we never knew if he was stronger than the night class vampire. However, he certainly did not hesitate to go against them by pointing a gun on their face, even though he could have been defeated by Kaname. That's what I like about him; his bravery.

Zero did hate having to be a vampire, but that is the part of life that he cannot change. Better to be a vampire, than a level-e. I agree with you that he is selfless as much as he can be, but he is also arrogant. His main concern is vampire's, and he tries to protect Yuki from it as much as he can. However, he buries his feeling's inside him.

I like your analogy, "Like Zero, I prefer to die on my feet than live on my knees". However, that does not change the fact that he is a vampire. It only show's that he is what he is, but he will still go against what he believes is wrong.

I don't think Zero will kill Yuki either, as Zero did not let Yagari kill him, when he was in the verge of turning into a level-e. He did try to kill Shizuka, but could not do it.

Zero's tragedy added, when Ichiru died, and he killed Rido to protect Yuki. He is a true vampire hunter, and he put's his job, before his own needs. Zero lost a lot, including Yuki at the end. Unlike Kaname, he has no one to go home with. Hope that he joins Yagari in some journey of self discovery.

I am sorry if my arguments are not based on fact's. The truth is I did not read the manga, and watched the anime a while ago. I do however noticed that in the anime Zero was given more screen time in the beginning, which made me think that Kaname was the villain. I read in this forum, that it's different in the manga.

[KimmyChan]

I like the fact that Zero turns from a human into a vampire...What a scary process that must be :(

[Tenken's Smile]

The more I read/watch, the more I prefer Zero (to Kaname).
Zero is such a strong character whom many of us can identify with.

Kaname is a bit scary and sarcastic.

[equinox]

The more I read/watch, the more I prefer Zero (to Kaname).
Zero is such a strong character.
Kaname is a bit scary and sarcastic.

think so, too... i bet kaname is planning smth right now oO i mean it was kinda strange that he accepted yuki being in love with zero..
the kaname i've known for 50 chapters would never accept such a thing.. rather would he kill zero or whatever :eyebrow:
when he said in the latest chapter that he would kill yuki if she should leave him or that she should kill him instead i got sure that he's planning smth!!!
poor zero... first he has to suffer because he has lost his love and then has probably to deal with kaname although he did nothing:uhoh:

[ZeroLover68]

Wait, everyone's talking about Zero hating vampires. I know he does, but isnt he also a vampire? That's what I thought . . .

[legend14]

i'm addicted to zero ,, he's just so cool and Mysterious ❤ u never expect what

he'll do and I love that about him ❤

Forza Zero :cool:

thx

[Tenken's Smile]

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[HollowScar]

OK, don't shoot me, people;
Doesn't Zero Kiryuu bear a lot of similarities to Light Yagami from DEATH NOTE?
They both have strong personalities and a lot of internal struggles going on, complex characters!
Ah, same voice actor, too! :O

PS: In my signature, there's a link to Zero Kiryu fan club on FB :D

Zero may look similar, and have that lanky appearance, but Light had the intelligence which Zero lacks. Light Yagami actually went to change the world, even though he became a lunatic, while Zero Kiryuu was more protective towards his loved ones or Yukii Cross, for whom he went to great lengths. Light would have rarely care about others, but his cause. He was using everyone, and anyone that he could.

[HollowScar]

i'm addicted to zero ,, he's just so cool and Mysterious ❤ u never expect what

he'll do and I love that about him ❤

Forza Zero :cool:

thx

Here in Canada, people like Zero don't get much attention. He may be mysterious, but he barely reveals his ideals, or thoughts. Also, he is skinny. He may be good looking, but he will probably be ignored if he were a student in Canada. Kind of like the guy no one notices.

[CMHerrera]

I would notice him that for sure~

[HollowScar]

I would notice him that for sure~

That is one of the dreamy aspects of anime I am in love with. The whole idea of a fairy tale possibility, but with twists and turns.

[chipi]

zero is cute and brave but he's a little naughty ...

[hobbitheart]

zero is cute and brave but he's a little naughty ...

Teehee :p
All too true!

[woodyfly]

Zero is one of those characters that will do anything that he believes is "right". He will suffer and sacrifice himself for others and for his belief.

The problem with these characters is that... they never get anything in return! It pisses me off! They fight so hard and suffer so much, yet at the end they usually die in some painful sucky death.

This is what happens to characters like Zero. Can he atleast get laid!?

[HollowScar]

Well, Zero is quite intriguing. He may have Avoidant Personality Disorder, which I have. This may be one reason, why he is so distant. This disorder might have developed at an early age, when his parents died. What else could he have looked up to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder

He most likely does not have it, but there are still some criteria that fit the bill.

[Stardust Romance]

This is what happens to characters like Zero. Can he atleast get laid!?
Never! He needs to suffer more! :frustrated:
Well maybe a bittersweet ending will work out for him.
Just don't expect it to be all sunshine & butterflies now lol.

@HollowScar: Interesting read :)

[HollowScar]

The problem with Zero is that he suffered so much, that now there is not much hope for him. He may outlive the glamorous Kuran 's, due to their sinister lives, but his life will be empty, and very few will ever impact him. So far, only Yuki has done that. He will most likely try to kill them, and that's it. Until then, he will be an empty shell, full of negativity, trailing Vampire's. In my opinion, Zero suffered the most in every way, including the curse of the twins, as he is the only one that outlives all his family, and lost his only caring friend to an enemy. To top that all of, his caring friend (Yuki), was also a pureblood from the beginning. Zero = Pain and Suffering.

[PSDOL]

i love zero , and i agree that he suffered alot and still suffering , zero never can find peace in his life , and that what i love of him even thought he lost everything he has a strong will and keeps on going . that what makes zero stronger so far from all he is a strong will he always was , yea we know too reasons can be yuuki and his hatred but still zero never gives up on nothing og and his kind hearted thats a other thing i love him for , like hino described him the HIDDEN KINDNESS which i agree ;)

but there is a thing about the hatred thing is it the most purebloods his hatred ? i mean zero was not that much of ahatred towards vampires mostly i see him is for purebloods why due its because of them he lost his happiness , plus zero is a vampire and he is accepting it we so capter 51 when he saved the little girl he told her he is a scary vampire so mostly zero's hatred is more for purebloods and pity for level e's.

[myKIRYUU]

lol I actually like Suzaku more now than I did at the start, especially once he stopped doing his best impersonation of Kira Yamato. I don't think you have to worry about Zero doing a Suzaku though..

on what anime does suzaku is in? i'm not familiar with her/him?

[BlackButterFly]

Zero past in fact is sad nothing but sad. But i don't know if it's just me but i feel that Zero and yuki relationship more than a sibling thing. (Plus i don't think you kiss your siblings...well beside yuuki and Kaname..) Anywayz i like how they can lean on each other- how yuki smile just make zero crave it :) It's cute! I also believe yuki shows Zero good side rather then a bag of tradgey...he smiles at her once. It's just that Kaname creeps me out....he smiles to much....and i feel like he's holding back on something, not telling yuki everything she most likely needs to know. I feel like he's planning something sinster??? So i'm all in ZeroXYuki...(if they do get together...and have kids....what will the kids be???? i wonder)

[Aimingan12]

Zero's past was sad but I think he seems like a good caring guy around Yuuki and he makes a good couple with her too.

[nanamo]

hmm... let's see...

I mostly like zero than kaname becuase...

if it in yuki, it would be so boring if kaname and yuki will get married right?
but if yuki and zero will get married, they would totally be a good husband and wife is it? :D

zero is kind,cheerful,loving etc.

he doesn't wanna show his feeling outside but if it is inside he shows it

[Aimingan12]

@nanamo
Lol, well neither couple would be boring :)
I just think that Kaname and Yuuki have more of a sibling love.
And I agree that Zero and Yuuki make a great couple :nod:
Zero does hide his true feelings but Yuuki knows how he is.

[wing 00]

i thinnk zero is the coolest charicter on the siries i hope he stays good

[Aimingan12]

i thinnk zero is the coolest charicter on the siries i hope he stays good

I'm hoping for the same thing :nod:

[Mysterious Smile]

Really, Zero is the character that i like most in this series!! After some volume recent, although he has some bad things and yuuki's feeling about him is not as the old days but i still like him ^_^

[mumuja]

i think he suffers because he wants to

everytime i saw the blood pills i was like "EAT THEM ALREADY!".... jeez just hold your nose or something