View Full Version : Character Discussion - Maka & Soul
Cub-Sama
2008-12-22, 15:04
@Reincarnated
It's anime canon that Maka's mother has the same wavelength, I think. From what Cub-sama was suggesting, I think the idea is that because she has the demonslayer wavelength, Maka could adapt Soul Purge (or similar) to remove the effects of the insanity wavelength from, say, Stein. If so, I'd say it hasn't happened with Soul because Maka hasn't considered her wavelength like that yet. However, she has recognised that - for whatever reason - the black blood doesn't stay in her.
That said, I don't agree Maka could do such a thing. But it is a neat idea.
I was just hoping it was possible because Stein is one of my favourite characters and him not being able to fight due to insanity is kind of annoying.
I love these two as characters and as a couple.
They go so well together ^_^. I hope they have more moments in the future.
Reincarnated
2009-02-02, 00:00
But Maka in the recent episode annoys me a bit :( I know that she was always ranting about not being strong in the beginning of this anime , but other than that she is so determined , and not moping around like that >_>"
While Soul is like "I don't care" at first too...*sigh*
I hope this is just me.
Do you mean in episode 42?
She did seem a bit too mopey...but then again, this is a diversion from the manga, so the finer points of the relationships are different.
On a slightly different note, I found it oddly cute when Soul came into the kitchen and was able to drink out of a milk carton and Maka not care at all. You know you live with a good woman when something like that happens, XD.
The way Soul says "cool" cracks me up. He´s probably my favorite character.
Do you mean in episode 42?
She did seem a bit too mopey...but then again, this is a diversion from the manga, so the finer points of the relationships are different.
On a slightly different note, I found it oddly cute when Soul came into the kitchen and was able to drink out of a milk carton and Maka not care at all. You know you live with a good woman when something like that happens, XD.
I took it that Maka was too depressed to notice or care. Normally, I reckon she'd have smacked him with the nearest hardback. ;)
Her attitude in recent episodes is a little irritating, but I can see where it's coming from.
@lmd: That's true. But then it'd seem like Soul was taking advantage of her depression, which I don't think he'd do.
Reincarnated
2009-02-06, 13:10
^ Err I dont understand. what do you mean by that?
Like, if Maka normally hits Soul if he drinks out of the carton, then by him drinking out of it when she seems too depressed to care about it, it seems as if he's using her depression to his advantage so that he can drink out of the carton without getting hit.
Yeah...
But, I don't think Soul would do that to Maka, which is why I say she probably lets him which means she's a good woman to live with, because most women have hissy fits if a guy drinks from a carton.
FlareKnight
2009-02-06, 16:53
Like, if Maka normally hits Soul if he drinks out of the carton, then by him drinking out of it when she seems too depressed to care about it, it seems as if he's using her depression to his advantage so that he can drink out of the carton without getting hit.
Yeah...
But, I don't think Soul would do that to Maka, which is why I say she probably lets him which means she's a good woman to live with, because most women have hissy fits if a guy drinks from a carton.Not sure if that means he's taking advantage of her depression. I mean if he does it anyways despite getting hit then he'd just be behaving normally. Just not adjusting his milk drinking behaviour due to a depressed Maka. But maybe they just agreed that its fine for him to drink out of the carton. Of course I doubt they are going to show him drinking any milk in the future so speculation on this point will probably never reach a certain conclusion.
At any rate living together I'm sure they've had to come to agreements about things. Not easy to live with others so have to make things work. They are an interesting pair even if I wouldn't have them as my favourite team. Though still like the Maka and Soul team.
As a pair, MakaxSoul is the second most liked by me. And I think, Soul knows very well that the normal Maka would chop him, if he drinks out of a carton. So he is trying to motivate her and turning her normal again!
Good point, Iloxus.
That would be a good reason...
VectorArrow
2009-02-16, 05:30
Maka and Soul is great :)
Im a fan of them
anyways im also a fan of
MakaKid
MakaBlackStar
Just let the author of Souleater make the pairing, and be surprised O_o
Mangaka-chan
2009-03-17, 03:59
Wow, it's been a while since any one posted here. :heh: I'm new to the series but these two characters really got me interested upon first perusal. Interestingly enough, while I do find myself wanting to ship them, I can't see them as a couple any time soon. There's still too much to develop and thresholds to cross before we cross from platonic love to romantic love. But the manga's on going, so we'll have plenty of time to get there if that is the mangaka's intent. ;)
But the most recent episode (i.e. 49) makes me wonder how BONES plans to develop Maka and Soul's relationship for the anime.
At the end of the episode Maka runs through a series of corridors and eventually finds a pale black and white version of Soul. From the preview she is seen with a box that's suppose to contain his true heart. I haven't seen all of the anime (or the manga for that matter) so I don't know what they might pull off with the "true heart" stuff. Will it be related to Soul's inferiority complex to his brother Wes? Or will it be about him wanting to be able to protect Maka when not wielded by her? Maybe both? Or something else entirely?
I don't watch the RAW episodes, so I won't known anything until Friday or Saturday. However, when I watched the preview on the last episodes I did say to myself "There's going to be lots of SoMa in the next one and I am going to be a happy fangirl!"
Reincarnated
2009-03-17, 20:57
since I haven't seen the RAW yet , I have to ask you : does it really said that the box contains his true heart? I don't think Wes will appear because he's appeared in manga just a couple chapters ago , and the anime is made really far from it.
and if it was true , I would get excited to see it!!
Mangaka-chan
2009-03-17, 21:18
since I haven't seen the RAW yet , I have to ask you : does it really said that the box contains his true heart? I don't think Wes will appear because he's appeared in manga just a couple chapters ago , and the anime is made really far from it.
I'm basing what I said previously off spoilers from the Newtype and GanGan magazines.
After some further thoughts...
I don't think they're going to show us Soul's past with his brother. At this point in the anime, unless they're planning a sequel, it'll be hard to work in the inferiority-complex Soul has in the manga regarding his older brother. I haven't seen all of the anime yet (hell, I've only seen six episodes so far, and none of them in sequence >>) but if it's true that they haven't hinted at Wes' existence in the anime then I can't see BONES using that in their adaptation because it will be kind of random at this point to suddenly tell us Soul has an older brother and he has complex issues regarding his relationship with Wes. If anything, I expect them to build off how Soul wants to be strong theme; it'll be easier to wrap up in two episode. :rolleyes:
Agreed. They've been using stuff from the manga with regards to Black Star and Kid (if the preview's anything to go by), but doing the same with Soul would introduce too much with too little time left. Best keep it simple and leave it down to strength or the like, like they've done with Maka's demonslayer wavelength and courage.
Reincarnated
2009-03-19, 10:55
I suspect BONES will reveal Maka and Soul's past when they meet. Regarding there're some scenes in ep 1 , while the manga didn't have that..
But oh well , less than 2weeks to reach its end. Eventhough their relationship not as epic as manga , I shall consider since the time isn't enough. It's still an anime with great concept ever since I watched Ueki and Ouran.
White Lady
2009-07-20, 03:55
I love Soul and Maka as individuals, as partners, and as a couple xD
They are a very unique shounen leading girl and guy :) Rare for me to see a shounen series wherein the girl is the main fighter while the guy is her support :)
I also love it that the leading girl is not just some burden. She can fight to protect herself. The leading guy doesn't get all the spotlight.
I love Soul that despite his wild appearance, he's a real gentleman . . . and I love him in that black suit xD
Can't wait to see more episodes that focus on them :) Especially on their relationship xD Squeee!!!!
I agree :)
LadyAi12
2009-11-22, 03:11
Maybe the idea was betrayal, but the translation was cheating between lovers. I dunno. Because if it was really cheating between lovers, then they should have been canon already xD Haha!
The part where Maka got mad at Soul when Blair's flirting on him can be interpreted in two ways:
shipper's view: she was jealous.
another view: she thinks Soul's messing around so early in the morning instead of preparing for school.
I like the shipper's view though xD Soul even said in the anime that his morning has become some love comedy/scene xD LOL!
Oh I can't wait for episode 5 *_* Soul and Maka spotlight again!!!! SQUEEEEEEE!!!!! xD
I read on a character profile some where that maka was jealous! Im from Deviantart, so im a big shipper, and im in love with SoulMaka
LadyAi12
2009-11-22, 03:31
Weapons and humans falling for each other is not that odd...
...do remember that Maka herself is a half-weapon thanks to her Dad's heritage. ;)
actully, this is only true if we are talking about the anime here.:(
and the end of the anime dosent follow the actual manga.
although it would be pretty cool if that happened in the manga:p
Repelsteeltju
2009-11-22, 16:38
actully, this is only true if we are talking about the anime here.:(
and the end of the anime dosent follow the actual manga.
although it would be pretty cool if that happened in the manga:pHell, no!
A stupid Deus Ex Machina that makes no sence! It'll be lol bones end all over again. -dies-
But seeing Soul and Maka together in cannon would be great! I luve the fics about them! :heh:
brodyblackout
2009-12-09, 16:07
i love soul and maka as well, they go great together.
I'm a fan of their friendship and how they work together, but don't see them as a couple.
I would like to see something else to do with insanity and how the black blood is actually affecting them. It's getting a bit too neat for my liking, seeing Maka and Soul using this supposedly dangerous attribute to their advantage without clear downsides. I've heard it said that Soul is finding it harder to return to sanity, but I don't see it myself.
Though I do have a theory that the black blood dress of the Arachne fight was not just the easy, helpful armour it appeared to be....
Repelsteeltju
2009-12-12, 14:06
I'm a fan of their friendship and how they work together, but don't see them as a couple. :frustrated::frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:
How can you not see them as a couple!? (http://www.fakku.net/viewonline.php?id=3198&page=27)
Comes to his senses/
So that means you're a Maka x yourself/Stein/Spirit/Black Star/Kid shipper?
... Or just not a SE shipper at all. Then again you could also want Soul for yourself. (He has no other potential non yaoi love interest and i don't know your gender)
would like to see something else to do with insanity and how the black blood is actually affecting them. It's getting a bit too neat for my liking, seeing Maka and Soul using this supposedly dangerous attribute to their advantage without clear downsides. I've heard it said that Soul is finding it harder to return to sanity, but I don't see it myself.True, but you have to remember that what happened underneath Shibusen was something extraodinairy. Were Maka and Soul used the Black Blood in the same way that Crona and Ragnarock do. The Black Blood Dress might have even been caused by the influence of Arachne's madness. Which was pretty intense at the time.
I do agree that it's one of the most interesting aspects about Soul & Maka's relationship and the sole reason no one but her can wield Soul. x3
And that it's should continue to intensify until Soul becomes a Kishin or at least something close to a kishin...
Though I do have a theory that the black blood dress of the Arachne fight was not just the easy, helpful armour it appeared to be....Do tell? If it wasn't that, then what was it?
*runz awayyyyy!*
Kotobasuu
2009-12-13, 00:49
:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:
How can you not see them as a couple!? (http://www.fakku.net/viewonline.php?id=3198&page=27)
Comes to his senses/
So that means you're a Maka x yourself/Stein/Spirit/Black Star/Kid shipper?
... Or just not a SE shipper at all. Then again you could also want Soul for yourself. (He has no other potential non yaoi love interest and i don't know your gender)
.. sometimes people just arent that big on shipping? |:
That was some fancomic they linked me to. I think they weren't being serious.
@Repelsteeltju - What 'extraordinary' thing under Shibusen are you referring to? I've been taking the fact that Maka and Soul can resist insanity as down to the combination of good soul wavelength control and Maka's grigori-formed soul. The combination makes them unusual if not unique, but the Crona example itself was merely the first of what is now several. Their control of insanity has only increased since then. They've used the same idea of courage and control over insanity leading to increased power repeatedly and it has largely worked.
My theory on the black blood dress is that while Maka's soul allowed it to be used as armour, it's abrupt appearance around Maka - kind of like Ragnarok on the outside, as it were - is an indication of Soul beginning losing himself to insanity. It's just an extension of how the black blood was used originally - a potential danger that is used for a positive outcome. Only the dress was not created deliberately, and I think that may be significant.
Repelsteeltju
2009-12-14, 15:40
@Repelsteeltju - What 'extraordinary' thing under Shibusen are you referring to?Asura's wavelength, Maka trying to tune in to Crona's wavelenght you name it.
I've been taking the fact that Maka and Soul can resist insanity as down to the combination of good soul wavelength control and Maka's grigori-formed soul. The combination makes them unusual if not unique, but the Crona example itself was merely the first of what is now several. Their control of insanity has only increased since then. They've used the same idea of courage and control over insanity leading to increased power repeatedly and it has largely worked.I thought it was because Maka's anti-demon wavelength at the very least slows the infection in Soul and completely nullifies the long term effects for herself. I was/am under the impression that the Black Blood only has serious effects if they preform a high level of resonate. For the examples after that. I was under the impression that the piano in the Black Room for more of a inherent (as he is said to be from a family of musicians) trait rather than something caused by the Black Blood. I could be wrong though.
My theory on the black blood dress is that while Maka's soul allowed it to be used as armour, it's abrupt appearance around Maka - kind of like Ragnarok on the outside, as it were - is an indication of Soul beginning losing himself to insanity. It's just an extension of how the black blood was used originally - a potential danger that is used for a positive outcome. Only the dress was not created deliberately, and I think that may be significant.True, the fact that Crona (seems to) need the Black Clown to produce something similar. Only seems to support this! But then again Arachne's insanity wavelength at that time was even greater then that of the Black Clown.
I disagree about the piano being some genetic thing. I see it as more the significant visual used for Soul influencing insanity; it's something personal to him that he can have control over. And he has control/identity issues all over the place if his hallucinations/flashbacks in the Baba Yaga arc are anything to go by.
Which I liked, because it didn't come down to some dire revelation or secret; he just...didn't know what to do with himself, and is still not sure of his own ability. Nothing extraordinary at all in that for a teenage character (or any character, for that matter), and I thought it a nice touch. Who needs a dark and troubled past when simply being human is enough to get you into all sorts of crazy danger? ;)
Repelsteeltju
2009-12-15, 14:36
I disagree about the piano being some genetic thing. I see it as more the significant visual used for Soul influencing insanity; it's something personal to him that he can have control over. And he has control/identity issues all over the place if his hallucinations/flashbacks in the Baba Yaga arc are anything to go by.
Which I liked, because it didn't come down to some dire revelation or secret; he just...didn't know what to do with himself, and is still not sure of his own ability. Nothing extraordinary at all in that for a teenage character (or any character, for that matter), and I thought it a nice touch. Who needs a dark and troubled past when simply being human is enough to get you into all sorts of crazy danger? ;)Thanks for sharing that about the piano that makes a lot more sense than the piano being somthing in his blood... I do need to point out that the piano was never used to influence insanity. Iirc it was only used to preform duel resonance in the magnetic field created by BREW and to transfer Maka's anti-demon wavelegth to everyone connected to Arachne's network in Baba Yaga's Castle.
About Soul. You should remember that Atsushi (like most mangaka) is a little different form the rest of us. He bases his characters on a aspect of himself or so he said during a interview in France. Soul is cynical and appears to have some sort of inferiority complex (or he really isn't as good at playing the piano as people say him to be). I did realy like the scene but that conflict has yet to be resolved. Yeah, it's still a Shounen manga... :p
Oh, I don't know about Okubo being different, or at least not from any number of authors. There's nothing at all unusual in basing a character of aspects of yourself.
Not at all sure about your claim about the piano. For a start, the piano first turns up when the 'demon' invites Soul to play it for the power it would give him. The times when he does so include those when he turns insanity to his and Maka's advantage; the fight with Crona, the Clown chapters, and against Arachne. I think there's a clear connection there between the piano and Soul's insanity. And unless I'm missing something, I think the link is that using the one allows him to control the other.
Repelsteeltju
2009-12-16, 17:05
^ Read the final volume of B.Ichi, this is the man who made Stein! Just looking at his characters tells you his somewhat crazy. This has a good infulence on Soul Eater though.
The whole thing with the demons intentions are a little strange. Bones portrayed him as wanting to take over or even destroy Soul. But I doubt this is were Atsushi is going with him in the manga. So far all I can tell is that he doesn't want to see Soul die, and that he is not a part of Soul himself (as he does not have access to all of Soul's memories).
Did Soul use the piano against the clown????
The use of the piano has always been to convey his and or Maka's wavelength to others. At least I can't remember them using it for anything else...
Ah, so you meant the man's personality. I thought you meant it was odd that one author used aspects of himself in a character. Which struck me as unusual because, well, it isn't uncommon.
The piano definitely turns up in the Clown chapters. Maka presses one note on the keyboard and it's enough to allow them to work out Demon Hunter. See this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Soul_Eater/42/28/) and what Soul says about insanity being the source of courage. I think that because he gets that theory (which the scanlation has him admit is a bit 'convenient') it allows him to use the black blood/insanity as opposed to becoming overwhelmed by it.
Soul does indeed use the piano to transmit Maka's soul wavelength to others, but it does not look to me that that is the only thing he uses it for.
Repelsteeltju
2009-12-17, 15:37
"Maka presses one note" Just reading this made me remember... I can't belive I forgot that.
Baka Bones it's all your fault! The chapter pretty much solidifies your point imo.
However this does support the fact that all of the times Soul & Maka made use of Madness a lage insanity wavelength was present. First there was Asura then there was The Clown and after that came Arachne...
Marik Swift
2010-12-11, 10:08
Soul and Maka would make a awesome couple but something that would get in the way of their team work it's better if they just stay good partners(friends).
iloveryoma
2011-02-20, 19:00
:love:yes! i like the idea of Maka+Soul they're partnership is great and their friendship i do wish there was a slight scene with them together but Maka does show that she gets jealous when Blair is all over Soul
:love:yes! i like the idea of Maka+Soul they're partnership is great and their friendship i do wish there was a slight scene with them together but Maka does show that she gets jealous when Blair is all over Soul
There was a similar scene in the manga. Book of ebon, chapter lust, or was it fear or jealously? Dammit, cant remember.
(btw, I'm a fan of soulxmaka too)
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