Code Geass R2 - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll [Archive] - Page 2

wtfftw

2008-05-04, 19:21

It was an OK ep. The only reason why i liked this was cuz i could see how lulu had to cover up almost everything in the show.

Somehow he remind me of Kira from death note with those evil emo expressions xD totally badass.

Lulu needs soe physical training badly outrun by a girl shame on you

Then again i hate every last part of suzuku and the part where suzuku had to use nunnally was like totally annoying for me. All in all i hope suzuku dies, a guy who killed his dad as he did should die. Back stabbing lulu to get his memory erased is low IMO

Better parts was Kallen and CC. Kallen was half naked sweating in that mascot. I was totally turned on (they dont hide it either). I could clearly see her but, so my expression on the show sky rocketted.

CC was totally i dont care mode which was funny. She is like: The whole earth is looking for my ass, BUT I JUST DONT GIVE A FUCK cuz im CC BITCH.

That was so totally cool

Zino or Gino guy is funny he dont give a damn the whole world is a play ground the guy probably could do what he wanted since he was born and never heard someone say no or something. The other girl with him is boring and flat chested so a not interested subject unless you like lolicon (agree with Maes Hughes)

All i can say about Rolo is: Poor Rolo (brother complex)

Villetta NU get served best b day present

The rest of the cast is simply boring and they should bomb the campus

and again OMG DID YOU SEE KALLEN:love: ON THE ROOF TOP WITH HER TOP

O. M. G i was like WTF:love::love::love::love: (someone put a screenshot of it that was hentai)

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 19:27

Yes, but it's unnecessary in S2. Sunrise used Nunnally to give Lelouch a reason for going back instead of taking the series onto the next level. The school/Zero stuff just isn't blending well at all anymore.

The amount of fan service has also risen a considerable amount, making the show even more comical (in a bad way). Kallen is now there simply for fan service and nothing else whatsoever... Sunrise are ruining her character by removing her respectability with this fan service increase.

As English football commentators say, we're now at the business end, meaning Code Geass needs less retarded school filler, less fan service, more character development and more plot advancement. Fuck this childish/perverted rubbish.

If you didn't like it then go away, your being just as childish with your comments as you claim the show is. It was all good and fun, try to relax a little for pete's sake, there's enough heavy drama and shit to fry some peoples brains so this is a good way to let loose from the stress of the series a little. :rolleyes:

yupyupyup

2008-05-04, 19:29

I find it's disturbing that quite a few people rate this show below 5/10. To me, every eps have been 10/10. The twist, the plot, the suspense were superb! The second season of Code Geass is gettting better and better. I was curious when Kallen, CC... showed up at school and all commotions happened that might reveal their IDs, and knowing that Lelouch was gonna use his Geass somehow to solve, but it's quite a stroke of genius from the plot writer there. And there comes Nunally! Every episode left viewers craving for more!!! I always thought that V.V. was another chick, but turned out to be a dude. Why Vee-Two, anyway?

I also like the fanservices of Kallen so far bunny suit in ep1, bathing tower in ep3, and her butt in thie ep. She's quite a babe, ain't she? :D I watched the ep a second time I found Kallen sneaked in at around 12:35. Some squeaking sounds as she walked too! :D I also noticed that C.C. was the first character shown in the opening before Lelouch, she'll definitely getting more screentime this season.

Will the lesbian maniac Nina show up next episode? Her character was so disturbingly well-defined that I really hated her in the first season. With the Knights of Seven, Knights of Three, and this lil' lesb, Lelouch has quite a formidable enermy force at hand. Of course he got Rolo the assassin and some Jap powerhouses behind him, so the all-out battle is expected to be spetacular.

One flaw I wonder if anyone notices: why the king, Suzaku, Rolo... called that special powers Geass? If I'm not wrong, in the first season, that's the name Lelouch came up with when he first got the power due to some voice he heard or something like that (to lazy too trace in which ep). Can't be a coincidence, right?

Maes Hughes

2008-05-04, 19:30

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 19:35

If I want to post my opinion I'll continue to do so. The comments of an annoyed fanboy who's happy with anything as long as it's called Code Geass matter not to me.

Slapstick humour and pointless boob/arse/panty shots aren't the reasons behind me being hyped for S2 for so many months - I'm not meant to be watching a poor comedy or porn here.

Right,and the comments of a whiny shod without an ounce of humor in his body makes his opinions about as important as any of the complaints he has about the episode to begin with. You didn't like it, whatever, but don't waste your crap by making pointless posts, it wastes space and honestly I don't need to hear it or read through it, hell I don't even want to take the time to scroll over it given how utterly childish your being. Get over yourself already.

metronome

2008-05-04, 19:37

next episode is pacific surprise attack? hmmm, talking about pearl harbor attack?:D

wesfalcon

2008-05-04, 19:39

6/10

I can't be bothered to do a summary this week - The episode was too poor for me to put forward the required effort.

The small sections of the episode that weren't filler seemed like they were being fast-forded through, while the filler parts went on too long. There was also an excessive amount of fan service, Viletta wearing nothing for no reason, Kallen's arse being focused on for no reason and lots of swimsuits.

Am I supposed to be watching Zero's epic war against Britannia or Lelouch's day to day life at school around sluts?

I don't like how emotionless Suzaku is: Apart from him mentioning Euphy once when Arthur stole something from him, you'd think he'd forgotten about her entirely. It was bad enough seeing him decide not to kill Lelouch and get his revenge...

Talking of Suzaku, the Lelouch/Suzaku flashback was annoying to sit through. I don't need to see a cheap retelling of their history, just like I don't need to hear C.C.'s voice say the same lines at the start of every bloody episode.

Also, this whole Knights of Round stuff looks like it's going to be a negative: Gino's mecha looks like something from Power Rangers and the huge amount of youngsters piloting mechas instead of adults is already pissing me off before they start fighting in them.

On a related note, Anya was clearly designed simply to piss me off. It seems her purpose in life is to take perverted pictures of women (copy of a Vandread character) and play with her mobile. She's popular, worthless, looks 12 and pilots one of the new super mechas - There's more than enough reasons for me to hate her.

The ONLY truly well done part of this mess was the ending - It made my cheeks tingle to see Lelouch's horrified expression, him knowing he couldn't speak and act like he knew her unless he wanted Suzaku to kill him. It didn't surprise me that the only time Sunrise put any effort in for the ending, Sunrise wanting to throw something in to get the viewers back next week.

If the quality doesn't improve, I might end up dropping Code Geass. I'm very pissed off about how badly Sunrise are fucking this up.

All the reasons why you don't like Geass and especially this episode, my friend, are the reasons why I really like the series. Particularly the Anya part... And I am sure, that it is also the case with the majority of Geass' fans, or the fans that the series want to target. So the reason you don't like Geass is simply because you don't belong to the market that the series is targeting, thus you can just drop the series and find your own anime / TV shows that has old characters and no girls. Maybe like like your current favorite animes.

But you have a valid point that some of the key plot points are too rushed, i.e. the Viletta part.

Nevertheless, if you think Lelouch/Suzaku part is annoying, the over emphasis on Sasuke/Naruto in Shippuuden anime is many2 times worse. (no offense to Naruto fans - I'm a fan too, but not on the Sasuke-Naruto emphasis part)

wtfftw

2008-05-04, 19:40

If I want to post my opinion I'll continue to do so. The comments of an annoyed fanboy who's happy with anything as long as it's called Code Geass matter not to me.

Slapstick humor and pointless boob/arse/panty shots aren't the reasons behind me being hyped for S2 for so many months - I'm not meant to be watching a poor comedy or porn here.i dont disrespect your opinion i actually think you have a couple of good valid points

but kallen's boob/arse/booty/behind/ass is definitely something worth the watch come on now you know you were like :).

or you need to tell me that your either gay or a woman:D

I mean come on Kallen always has something useful to say it wasnt like she was there without a reason or said important stuff. The cool thing about her is she is that hawt rambo girl who says something important yet is half naked. i had to rewind to actually know what the fuck she was saying.

What you want the writers to do have girls all dressed up in muslim clothing the head whatever you call it. That be lame. What the writers do of this show liek many other is profiling and the have many roles for different chars kallen is the sexy war specialist type and i like that so im sold. C.C. is the smart i dont give a damn cuz im classy girl. i could describe the rest of em but not worth my time.

Stretch5920

2008-05-04, 19:41

If you didn't like it then go away, your being just as childish with your comments as you claim the show is. It was all good and fun, try to relax a little for pete's sake, there's enough heavy drama and shit to fry some peoples brains so this is a good way to let loose from the stress of the series a little. :rolleyes:

it's called critiscism and it's a part of discussion. This thread isn't called "Circlejerk to Code Geass Ep 5" even though that's what mainly goes on in here. The ep was pretty damn poor, even if you disregard what actually happened in this ep it was still poor. The scenes jumped around all over the place, bad timing, bad music,etc. The directing and editing was just frantic. Every single time some one tries to talk about something important it gets interrupted, suzaku with the cat, milly and suzaku with the cat again, shirley interrupting c.c who then gets interrupted by kallen, toudou interrupting and saving lelouch's ass from a mutiny.

edit: And the constant cut off to another scene when someone is about to say something is getting rather annoying too. Rolo with his Geass, C.C about Viletta (granted we already know the answer to this). It's like they brought up something interesting then just threw tits and ass at you and then you gotta watch the next ep just to hear the end of that conversation. The only good things that came out of this ep is Suzaku finally has a goal instead of "lol I'm gonna change it, dunno how but I will" and Nunnally. BOTH THINGS SPOILED BEFORE THE EP STARTED.

well Lelouch blackmailing Viletta was good too. so three things.

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 19:42

Lol, chill guys. I'll admit that I myself was hoping for a bit less of the school angle in S2, but I think it won't be as prominent from here on out now that Nunnally is in the game. On the other hand, it's a difference in perception. fanservice pantyshots aside (they are a necessary evil to up the ratings, I suppose), I don't find the school episodes to be filler at all.

Lelouch managed to get a lot done during the festival, actually. He coaxed C.C. into revealing V.V., and she will probably tell him more off-screen. He almost has Suzaku fooled (phone reaction pending). He even managed to tip Rolo's internal balance in his favor, and to blackmail Viletta. In the background, he kept on planning the OotBK's next move and arranges for Laksharta's arrival. There's a lot going on here, even if some of it receives short segments. If there is anything in this episode I could've done without, it was probably the whole "red C.C." fiasco.

Every single time some one tries to talk about something important it gets interrupted.
It's obviously on purpose, in order not to reveal anything. You'd think that at this stage, we could get more info from then on what's going on, instead of tantalizing hints, but you can be sure that the important points like Rolo's Geass' weakness will be covered soon enough. If Kallen's reason to fight from ep 3 to 9 is any indication, I'd say we'll find out about Rolo by ep 11 at the latest :D

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 19:43

Oh c'mon, comedy is essential in any anime. The red fiasco was just hilarious in my book ;)

Maes Hughes

2008-05-04, 19:44

Right,and the comments of a whiny shod without an ounce of humor in his body makes his opinions about as important as any of the complaints he has about the episode to begin with. You didn't like it, whatever, but don't waste your crap by making pointless posts, it wastes space and honestly I don't need to hear it or read through it, hell I don't even want to take the time to scroll over it given how utterly childish your being. Get over yourself already.

Surely there's an ignore function on AS? Use it and stop sulking because someone isn't praising the thing you love.

My lack of humour (or, put better, me being hard to please) and desire not to see fan service lower the standard allow me to view the series as it is, meaning my views are usually on the money. I'm also not one who gets carried away and lets bias blind him; unlike yourself.

I'll leave it here since this is pathetic. Just know that no amount of bitching will prevent me from being honest - You'll be wasting your time if you think acting like a baby will change anything.

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 19:49

wtfftw

2008-05-04, 19:51

Well i would give this ep a full 10 if the ep had a purpose of showing the emotional relation of lulu feeling the some chars but i did not get that vibe what i mean with this is that some of the people memory's had been erased to not have suspicion on lulu etc. SO if they wanted to make it really deep and show the tension even better that should have brought up more

Stretch5920 you have a valid point on that and i agree. At the same i think this pace is also what keeps the show going and up. Cuz its like tak tak tak tak instead of bla bla bla bla

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 19:51

Why is it so easy for these kind of misunderstandings and such to always happen? I sometimes wish we all actually could get along, but I guess that isn't possible.

I have to agree that while Lelouch did make some gains in certain aspects that kept this episode somewhat relevant to the plot, the large majority of fanservice was unneeded and a waste of time considering what needs to be taken care of in 20 more episodes.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 19:51

Surely there's an ignore function on AS? Use it and stop sulking because someone isn't praising the thing you love.

My lack of humour (or, put better, me being hard to please) and desire not to see fan service lower the standard allow me to view the series as it is, meaning my views are usually on the money. I'm also not one who gets carried away and lets bias blind him; unlike yourself.

I'll leave it here since this is pathetic. Just know that no amount of bitching will prevent me from being honest - You'll be wasting your time if you think acting like a baby will change anything.

Why don't you take the time and reflect on that yourself hmm? I'm just annoyed you came up with such personal bullshit I really didn't need to read and neither does anyone else :rolleyes:

If you were actually any good in your reviews then you could peer underneath all the fanservice, but I guess that tells us how in depth you can actually judge a series on. Before you should complain about the series maybe you should think about fixing your own ability to perceive next time. In any case, my personal opinion on your personal opinion, you don't like it then just leave already :eyebrow:

Yah yah, and no amount of bitching is going to really change the episode or convince others who did like it. Your wasting everyone else's time if you think whining like a little brat will change anything either, your just being freaking annoying all around. Worm ;)

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 19:53

Now let's just calm down and knock it off with the intense arguing, shall we?

Maes Hughes

2008-05-04, 19:54

Maes Hughes, there are a lot of anime out there where fan service is much more intrusive than it is in Code Geass, even in this current episode. Chalk it up to cultural difference. You just have to live with it :) Apart from taking up a bit of screen time, it doesn't really get in the way of the episode itself.

Yes, I have seen some of Ikki Tousen. :)

I didn't mind it as much during S1 since it was less in your face. In S2 there's been Kallen fan service in every episode so far AND fan service for other characters... It's as if Sunrise are throwing more in out of desperation for ratings.

In all honesty Kallen is hot, but that doesn't mean I want to see more of her boobs and less of her personality during the actual episodes. The same goes for the other characters.

I'm the sort of person who loved Death Note for being realistic and not throwing around fan service and comedy to improve ratings. While I understand Code Geass is different I would like to see less stupidity and not more as it goes on.

wtfftw

2008-05-04, 19:56

wow:twitch:

Its just a show damn people should make a show and the time needed to create it then talk.

Damn the plot more kallen xP. Kallen pawned Viletta. next Kallen gonna pawn Suzaku

@Maes Hughes I like death note too except the ending. Kira was sort of like a religion to me xD. BUt geass aint death note i mean look at the drawning and the mecha's i mean :S. Your asking something like

i wish people In gundam seed had brains
I wish naruto went evil
I wish claymore didnt have violence
I wish geass did not have fan service and comedy

that aint never gonna fly.

I for one also dont get like how the fuck someone who wants to destroy brittania is studying at a brittania school without going nuts and be buddy with and save their asses too. Thats like totally retarded and well i accepted that fact cuz otherwise i would go nuts so i get wher eyou coming from but its no.

superzombie23

2008-05-04, 19:56

The ending of the episode was somewhat expected for me, since I read some tidbits about it some time ago. I was still surprised and had to LOL at the randomness/ownage of the scene.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/548/1209946766699dv4.jpg

Anyways, I found the rest of the episode to be very good. Comedy is definitely one of my favorite anime genres, and C.G. makes good humorous moments; The fanservice isn't THAT bad. The only thing I found akward about the episode was the jumping from scene to scene, but it was still executed well imo.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:01

Oh for pete's sake, just learn to laugh and shrug it off people, plot developments will come when they come, which looks to be soon. I take fan-service as it is, not try to make it out like its the center of everything. There has been plenty of other stuff besides just that, so I don't see why people tend to exaggerate about it, Episode 5 was meant to mostly be humorous and I went in expecting that for the most part, with some nice twists thrown into the mix as well. It's all about ones own mindset really :rolleyes:

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:02

Yes, I have seen some of Ikki Tousen. :)

I didn't mind it as much during S1 since it was less in your face. In S2 there's been Kallen fan service in every episode so far AND fan service for other characters... It's as if Sunrise are throwing more in out of desperation for ratings.

In all honesty Kallen is hot, but that doesn't mean I want to see more of her boobs and less of her personality during the actual episodes. The same goes for the other characters.

I'm the sort of person who loved Death Note for being realistic and not throwing around fan service and comedy to improve ratings. While I understand Code Geass is different I would like to see less stupidity and not more as it goes on.

It's true that the amount of fanservice in season 1 seemed less in your face as you said. I've become annoyed with how they have put it in every episode and managed to have some sort of Kallen fanservice in a lot of the episodes.

DN was made to be that sort of show. There really wasn't much opportunity for fanservice.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:08

Some fanservice in DN though, especially that scene with L and Light that I really did not need to hear the yaoi fans scream about all the moment. But meh, I shrugged it off, if you like that type of stuff then fine, if you don't then brush it off and focus on what you do like. Fanservice is meant to be a garnish, you shouldn't let that rule the whole series, and if you think the producers are doing that then just ignore and interpret it the way you want too. It's about changing what you can versus constantly complaining about what you can't :rolleyes:

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 20:11

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/548/1209946766699dv4.jpg

Nice photoshopping. Ten points for effort at least :heh:

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:12

Well, that was rather subtle while CG is rather obvious in that regard. As long as fanservice doesn't keep coming stronger and stronger, which I fear it will, I think I'll be fine. I'm reminded of some recent shows with that seemed to have potential, but were drowned in ridiculous fanservice.

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 20:14

Isn't this new 5pm slot meant to be more family-friendly, anyway? Somehow I don't understand why the pantsu is increasing in recent episodes.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:15

It'll only drown it if you let it drown it Dann, Code Geass still has a lot to offer besides just that and being able to discern from it and the unimportant points makes you capable viewer. It will only matter if you let it matter is all I'm saying >_>

gabbytay

2008-05-04, 20:16

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/548/1209946766699dv4.jpg

man thats some crazy shit:heh:

anyway C.C is hiding a lot of info from lelouche before she got "red" :heh:. I wonder what she meant by not getting lelouche involved in something? <_<

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:16

Still 20 episodes to go I guess. I just think there are better things to spend the time we have with episodes than on fanservices.

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 20:18

I wonder what she meant by not getting lelouche involved in something? <_<

She's been withholding a lot from Lelouch ever since the start, so it's no surprise. But she's a hypocrite too, since she basically involved him already when she contracted him. At least she's a bit more forthcoming now.

hero147

2008-05-04, 20:18

Eh, If you think CG sucks, it would be nice to stop watching for those who are making a REALLY BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS. Am I the only one who hated Death note? Everything in DN is like a blur none of it made sense to me. Light and L and L's successors seemed to overcomplicate everything. Like Light comes up with 50 different reasons to why L moved his hand. Useless IMO.

gabbytay

2008-05-04, 20:20

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:22

Still 20 episodes to go I guess. I just think there are better things to spend the time we have with episodes than on fanservices.

Meh, given how heavy the series can be I find them a nice change of pace, I mean honestly I'd go over the events of death note to a tee where my head felt like it would explode. And really, I felt the whole issue of fanservice was well wrapped in with the basic comedy and humor as well, so it kept a usually dark theme light and helps my relax after a long day of soaking up various dramatic implications :heh:

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-04, 20:23

Heh, was a good comedic episode.

So Lulu just shanghaied Viletta into joining the BK's, interesting to be sure heh.

Mmm all hail Governer Nunnally? That was a devious trap Suzaku set up then, oh if only Lulu could hold his cool with a shock like that. It would surely take some inhuman willpower thats for sure.

iwubanime

2008-05-04, 20:26

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-04, 20:28

I have no idea how Lelouch will get out of that...

I reckon a timely Rolo intervention if he cannot control himself and Suzaku is about to spin-kick him again. Since there's basically no other way I can think of that doesn't involve leaping over the side of the building, he is after all no match for him in any sort of hand-to-hand.

J4Y

2008-05-04, 20:30

I don't feel like it was forced or anything, it fit nicely with where they are in the current stasis of things. I enjoyed it, it'll make the darker, more serious episodes later that much more epic.

gabbytay

2008-05-04, 20:30

ashlay

2008-05-04, 20:33

next week will probably see
Lelouche: huh...... (light laugh with anger) are you joking governor general / who might you be?
Nunnaly: nii-sama you dont remember me , it me nunnaly?
Lelouch: I think you've mistaken me for another person.
Nunnaly: (Evil face and will kill anyone who messed up her nii-sama's memory) <_<
I'd have some real respect for Lelouch if just dropped the act completely though.

Still, that seems a little unlikely, since it might endanger his life and more importantly Nunnally's. >_>

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:34

Liked this episode, didn't really notice much fanservice (except the little with Viletta). What annoys me is how Lelouch treats C.C (she looked sad when she was in the car), she's treated terribly and Lelouch thinks nothing of it. Sometimes he's nice and sincere (last season) but he's been horrible so far. I was floored by the Suzaku/Nunnally thing as I didn't see that coming. I have no idea how Lelouch will get out of that...

Don't expect him to be nicer anytime soon. Besides, it was a random thing that happened. He treats her more harshly than anyone else, so I don't expect that to change. She's used to it anyway.

Am I the only one who somehow thought Suzaku was looking pretty good this episode with his whole goal and all. He's still just forcing his beliefs on everyone else, but if he gained control I think he might do okay.

Freya

2008-05-04, 20:34

I reckon a timely Rolo intervention if he cannot control himself and Suzaku is about to spin-kick him again. Since there's basically no other way I can think of that doesn't involve leaping over the side of the building, he is after all no match for him in any sort of hand-to-hand.

He can just say he doesn't know who Nunnally is. Which is the most likely thing that's going to happen.

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 20:35

Mmm all hail Governer Nunnally? That was a devious trap Suzaku set up then, oh if only Lulu could hold his cool with a shock like that. It would surely take some inhuman willpower thats for sure.

It's a good thing he turned around beforehand, otherwise he'd already be suffering from a spin kick. But Suzaku's glare is shooting daggers from behind - he's likely already convinced himself of Lulu's return.

He can just say he doesn't know who Nunnally is. Which is the most likely thing that's going to happen.
I don't really see any alternatives either. He will just convince himself that he'll make it up to Nunnally when he recovers her, and that he'll take vengeance on Suzaku in due time.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:37

Yeah, I was impressed with Suzaku myself as well this episode, very cold and ruthless trick. I liked it, about time Lelouch learned to be a little more humble after what happened in Turn 4 with Rolo ;)

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:39

The trick was a very nice move on his part. The perfect way to lead Lelouch into a trap.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 20:42

They really like to show Kallen's behind. Anyway, this is the same as Season 1 when Zero tried to get the cat. I forgot already if that was the exact episode. This anime can't have action every episode, it will just get old. We already saw the height of the action in ep 4. They were slowly building up to it and it didn't disappoint. Now they have to slowly build up the action again.

In this episode, although they rushed it a little bit, Rollo has completely sided with Lelouch. He completely trusts him. He told him about the weakness of his geass. This is further reinforced when he pointed a gun at Villeta.

Villeta seems to have fallen as well. I knew Zero would use Ohgi x Villeta to his advantage.

Atlast we see Nunnally. WOW Suzaku, although I really hate him, it seems he has a good plan on his shoulders. Nunnaly being the governor is a surprised. Now how is Lelouch going to respond to this surprising predicament? It is probable that he is going to deny that he knows Nunnaly. I want to see next weeks episode already.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:42

That looks to be a literal statement given Turn 6 Dann, you'd think being a genius he would have seen as much happening later >_>

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 20:43

Just finished watching, and my first reaction is:

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH DAAAAAAAAMN!

This is the first episode I gave 10/10 so far. There was a ton of quality bits to it.

First, as usual, Villetta (since I have probably the biggest anime-crush I've ever had on her, and I have NO idea why... she's not even a main character). The swimsuit = quality. And I figure that having appeared in all 5 episodes so far, she definitely has a real part to the overall story.

And despite me really not liking Lulu or the OotBK side of the war, I actually like her being kinda blackmailed over. I figure this makes a reemergence of Villetta/Ohgi so much more likely.

Next, the school fair. By far, the other students are the comic focal of this series. I love the insanity of a fair put on by Millay.

Then... Arthur is back! w00t! Yay cats! Yay biting of Suzaku! Despite him being one of my favorite characters... lol Sometimes cats just don't like you. That's why I love cats.

Finally, C.C. and Pizza has returned! The world's biggest pizza and she just breaks out into the open. I love Lulu's reaction, then pushing her into the tomatoes, etc... So quality. She's probably my 3rd favorite character. I wish I had a C.C. roaming around Penn State like that, eating all pizza around.

Quality episode.

My one question, in the beginning... I must've forgotten from last episode, but there weren't that many OotBK folks on "parade" in front of the embassy... So where did the ridiculous horde of them come from when Zero addresses them in the beginning?

And my answer to the end of the episode:

I think what Suzaku did was totally fair game. It's not like he's hurting her or planning to.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:44

Well, yes I know it is apparent given that. If you are speaking of Lelouch in that comment, he is so blinded by the fact he could take back Nunnally right there that he wouldn't stop to consider things.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:46

Hope he gets a good and nice shock to wake him up then ;)

ashlay

2008-05-04, 20:46

Don't expect him to be nicer anytime soon. Besides, it was a random thing that happened. He treats her more harshly than anyone else, so I don't expect that to change. She's used to it anyway.

Am I the only one who somehow thought Suzaku was looking pretty good this episode with his whole goal and all. He's still just forcing his beliefs on everyone else, but if he gained control I think he might do okay.
He used Nunnally. He can go ahead and die. -_-

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:48

Oh, that made him look like a jerk, but it seems he is really just playing like Lelouch now.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 20:48

My one question, in the beginning... I must've forgotten from last episode, but there weren't that many OotBK folks on "parade" in front of the embassy... So where did the ridiculous horde of them come from when Zero addresses them in the beginning?

I think in episode 3, they said that there were 250ish bks that will be executed.
In ep 4. they were probably hiding or caged in those school bus like vehicles.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 20:50

He used Nunnally. He can go ahead and die. -_-
So, does Lulu using other people affect your opinion of him, or is it just because it's Nunnally do you think Suzaku should die?

I think what's he's doing is totally fair game. It's not like he's planning on hurting her. She's going to be the Governor General for crissake. If anything, he wants her help.
I think in episode 3, they said that there were 250ish bks that will be executed.
In ep 4. they were probably hiding or caged in those school bus like vehicles.
Ah, thanks. That probably accounts for it.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 20:51

Oh Fuzzy, the Cat episode in Season 1 was Episode 6, not Episode 5. Turn 5 for R2 was more like mix between episode 6 and episode 21 from Season 1 I felt, with some nice add ons of course :D

nutype

2008-05-04, 20:52

it's funny suzaku forced lelouche into a position where he has to lie to his sister he swore that he would never lie to. Lelouche being the sis-kon he is can't do anything lol

my my, suzaku has grown into a respectable character this season. First he sells out his best friend for a promotion and now he is using his sister as a pawn to further his ends. Anyone else starting to like suzaku? I dont understand where all this hate is coming from....this is the best thing that could happen to him.

mccolgate

2008-05-04, 20:52

Nunnally will be crushed when Lulu has to pretend not to know her.

Theron

2008-05-04, 20:52

Today was a crazy day for me – a ton of stuff to do so I just watched the episode now. A second time. ;) Anyways this Turn was a lot better then R1 mirror episode. Really solid one. Can’t really highlight anything coz almost everything was really good. Although there are still some minor + and - :

+ TodouxChiba hint was as great as unexpected. Who would have guessed that shipping?

+ Viletta birthday party was for me the highest point of the whole episode. The ending was revealed in spoilers and I was wondering for a long time will Lelouch find out about VilettaxOugi arc and how? And I have to tell I wasn’t disappointed in a second.

+ Ashford cameos like the wall with crosses were great.

- Everlasting Kallen fan service starting to be annoying. :mad:

+ Everything else was just great.

A little bit weird thing that writers did with the Order. In the first Turn there is like 5 people with Urabe and he’s saying that they are the last members of the Order. Than every single episode the Order grows exponentially without any recruitment. Ok, there were these three trailers full of people but not as much as there is in front of Chinese embassy in the beginning of this Turn. I don’t really mind that, it’s just weird.

Edit:
+ Oh, yeah I forgot to mention another brilliant scene when Li takes two bad behaved little girls back home. :heh:

Kobukson

2008-05-04, 20:53

He used Nunnally. He can go ahead and die. -_-

However, he has somehow kept Nunnally safe and relatively happy from what appears in this epi. In a way, he has acted as her "knight" by shielding her from the Emperor in a way much different than Lulu's original idea back in Season 1, but it is troubling in how he is now playing her as Lulu's ultimate opponent (since Lulu wants to take down all those in power in Area 11). But I do think it reinforced how Suzaku's way of trying to save Japan may be valid (even if you can argue it's more morally corrupt than Lulu's).

lightbringer

2008-05-04, 20:54

@JagdPanther et al.:
I don't think Viletta is exactly being blackmailed to join the OotBK - if she did that, she would lose her baroness status anyway, so there's no point to the blackmail. More likely, Lelouch just wants her to keep quiet about his memories' return.

it's funny suzaku forced lelouche into a position where he has to lie to his sister he swore that he would never lie to. Lelouche being the sis-kon he is can't do anything lol

Except that he's already lied to her plenty of times, even if most of them were just white lies.

ashlay

2008-05-04, 20:54

Oh, that made him look like a jerk, but it seems he is really just playing like Lelouch now.
Don't care. This is personal.

This act is infinitely worse than anything Lelouch did to Euphie in terms of Nunnally's emotional well being, And Suzaku's not even going to bat an eye. So Suzaku can go to hell, that's all there is to it.

I don't think Viletta is exactly being blackmailed to join the OotBK - if she did that, she would lose her baroness status anyway, so there's no point to the blackmail. More likely, Lelouch just wants her to keep quiet about his memories' return.
She's in her military uniform in the opening after all, so seems reasonable she'll go back to being a Britannain KMF pilot at some point. >_>

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 20:55

Who is to say this wasn't part of the Emperor's plan? V.V. captured Nunnaly and is working with the Emperor, remember? I think it may be safe to say this plan was partially done by his bidding.

Kobukson

2008-05-04, 20:56

Don't care. This is personal.

Infinitely worse than anything Lelouch did to Euphie in term of Nunnally's emotional well being, And he's not even going to bat an eye. So Suzaku can go to hell, that's all there is to it.

Yeah 'cause you know turning someone into a genocidal freak and the epitome of everything she DESPISED is SO much more healthy. :rolleyes:

I still think their both on the same moral level really. (Remember Lulu exploiting the Student Council to prevent Suzaku from fighting him?)

scifijimmy

2008-05-04, 20:57

Great episode overall, but I do have some problems. First off, Is Suzaku blind because Lelouch's face was readable to me with the "Ahh, Shit" look. I mean it wasn't the "I've been shot through the heart" look at the end of the episode, but it gave enough away to the fact that he's aware of the past. Maybe Suzaku playing Villeta so he could do the whole phone call showdown scene that was at the end.

"So, Lelouch your blackmailing Villeta with the knowledge that Ogi took care of her when she had amensia, and fell in love with that man at the time." Part of me wants to scream "Are you nuts!?" However given the nature of the previous incident she could probably identify the Ogi, Kallen, and a few others. Finally, on this note was Rolo going to kill Villetta, and for what?

Apparently C.C. has no power of restraint when it comes Pizza. If she can't keep herself from the Academy then Kallen should put guards on her to keep her from leaving the consulate. Btw Kallen that was probably the most silly outfit that you could come up with.

Finally, as I said (or made apparent) Suzaku seriously knows how to shit with Lelouch. Probably the whole idea to make Nunnally the Governor-General was schemed together. Thing I'm left wondering is why the Emperor didn't mess with Nunnally's memories. To torture Lelouch sycologically perhaps?

Also Suzaku, how many Knight's of one are there? ONE, and ONLY ONE. How many contenders are there for the next of that title, Eleven initially including yourself not to mention the Thousands of other knights. To get there you need to be in the Emperor's favor and a supreme Knight. Yes your in the Emperor's favor for now, but are you really better than the five below you, and what will it take to become better than those six above you? Also how are your governoring skills? And these are probably just the "officially recognized" means to get to the position of Knight of One.

ashlay

2008-05-04, 20:57

Who is to say this wasn't part of the Emperor's plan? V.V. captured Nunnaly and is working with the Emperor, remember? I think it may be safe to say this plan was partially done by his bidding.
No one made Suzaku dial that number. No one made Suzaku keep the truth about what had happened to Lelouch's memories from Nunnally.

He's just as responsible.

Yeah 'cause you know turning someone into a genocidal freak and epitome and everything she DESPISED is SO much more healthy. :rolleyes:

I still think their both on the same moral level really.
This has nothing to do with morals. Like I said, this is entirely personal. He's purposely hurting Nunnally, and for what? To find out if Lelouch is Zero? He doesn't get forgiven for this.

cajunman380

2008-05-04, 20:58

Infinitely worse than anything Lelouch did to Euphie in term of Nunnally's emotional well being, And he's not even going to bat an eye. So Suzaku can go to hell, that's all there is to it.

not really. Nunally is still alive and she wasn't forced to kill people against her will and have her named tarnished forever. I quite frankly cant see anything that tops that. Leouch opened the door when he told Suzaku that he should hate Zero. He made this monster so as far as i'm concerned Suzaku can inflict as much pain as possible. Leouch had it comming.

This has nothing to do with morals. Like I said, this is entirely personal. He's purposely hurting Nunnally, and for what? To find out if Lelouch is Zero? He doesn't get forgiven for this.

hes getting revenge. Leouch has as much blame on this as Suzaku so i see no problem with it

So in the end I think Suzaku is just gonna let Lelouch leave to think about giving up. No Rolo rescue will be needed. But he really can't talk his way out of this. Suzaku already knows.

The sad thing is, as much as I feel Suzaku should just shoot Leouch and get it over with, we wouldnt have a season 2. And yeah, Suzaku so far has been owning him hard on the conversations and Im loving it.

Of course that means he'll die in the end, but don't touch him now!

what do you base this on?

Aquaman OS

2008-05-04, 20:59

It probably doesn't matter what he says. Suzaku already knew he has his memory back. He seemed to know from ep 1 before Zero even announced his presence again. The Emperor probably told him. But he definitely already knows since he had his two KOR buddies meet up with him and have the Avalon and Lancelot shipped over. He's already ready for battle.

Since he told him Zero is no longer needed and told him to give the new governor his answer it seems like he's giving Lelouch one last chance to give up being Zero. He's definitely over the Euphie thing by now so he's giving his old friend one last chance to stay out of his way.

So in the end I think Suzaku is just gonna let Lelouch leave to think about giving up. No Rolo rescue will be needed. But he really can't talk his way out of this. Suzaku already knows.

Theron

2008-05-04, 21:01

Don't touch Suzaku! He's a perfect Zero nemesis right now! Of course that means he'll die in the end, but don't touch him now! ;)

Ashlotte

2008-05-04, 21:09

Well that was a pleasent thing to get to watch after work...

Easily perfect 10 episode for me. Lots of eyecandy, good dose of humor, and one HELLUVA cliffhanger. Episodes like this remind me why I love anime... ;)

ZOMGZOMG

2008-05-04, 21:10

She's not at Ashford anymore. It was explained that all the students left except for the Student Council members.

Well ya, it would explain it, but y was the mark only sideways? If i remember correctly, she made a + shaped movement when lelouch was watching in Season 1, so there was no reason to change it to only a - .

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:12

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:13

Lelouch's comments to her are going to have to be very controlled if he is going to stop Suzaku from finding out, though it is going to happen eventually anyway.

bkg9990

2008-05-04, 21:14

I just saw Chachamaru with Lelouch :D

Nibelheim

2008-05-04, 21:15

Suzaku actually has a chance of changing things in Japan for the better while before i didn't think he had a chance at all. Still it would take a lot of work for him to become the number one knight but if things go well maybe he take credit for taking care of Zero again and if a few of the knights with a lower number then him sadly die then thats all good.

Suzaku should use this chance to kill off his rivals while dragging things out with Zero as long as possible because if he kills Zero too soon the emperor won't really need him as he would loss his edge.

scifijimmy

2008-05-04, 21:16

@fuzzywuzzy: The scene where Suzaku is reintroduced to Ashford Academy is what I was talking about. The pretend blank stare was what gave it away for me.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 21:17

Lelouch turned around and he wasn't facing Suzaku so only the viewers of the anime can see his expression.
Yay plot-device! :D

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 21:18

Irenicus

2008-05-04, 21:19

Suzaku, you win! :D

Best Code Geass twist ever. Beats even the Euphie massacre in sheer irony. Lulu has been trapped between a rock and a hard place before, but between his sister's well-being and his sister's well-being!? :twitch:

Otherwise, the episode is a mixed bag.

The Good: Lots of comedy, school life, fun times for all. Chachamaru C.C. The fight over Lelouch >_<. Suzaku and Lelouch interactions. Lelouch makes a big mistake if he really thinks he could fool Suzaku. They know each other too well, not to mention they've already played this game before; Suzaku is probably the only one in the world (aside from, perhaps, Nunnally -- and obviously C.C.) who could see through his ruse right away. Fucking epic cliffhanger.

The Not So Good: too much fanservice, too many parallels to the Ancient Past (R1), C.C. got hurt (why!?), the confrontation scene with Villetta is terribly rushed. wtf?

ThoHell

2008-05-04, 21:20

WOW what an ending. Kinda was wondering when that card would be played, still a nice impact though. This is going to break Lulu's heart and his poor sis when he has to play dumb. But can he do it? Hm...he has to but everything he's doing is for her......can't wait to find out! Oh yeah, interesting episode, C.C. and Kallen great tag team!

ashlay

2008-05-04, 21:21

This episode I feel bad for C.C. the most >_<" But I'm glad she finally get her Cheese-kun back.

P.S. So the spoiler about Gino had a conversation with C.C. and made her red was not real after all (though he did mixed C.C. with that tomatoes and got her red with tomatoes stain on her cloth.)
The spoiler was actually just "Gino makes C.C. red." It's just that no one was expecting the meaning of that to be quite so literal. :rolleyes:

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:22

@fuzzywuzzy: The scene where Suzaku is reintroduced to Ashford Academy is what I was talking about. The pretend blank stare was what gave it away for me.

It can be interpreted as an expression of surprise. They haven't seen each other for a long time so that expression is ok. The guy is one of the KOR so it is also surprising that he is back in school.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 21:22

The Not So Good: too much fanservice, too many parallels to the Ancient Past (R1), C.C. got hurt (why!?), the confrontation scene with Villetta is terribly rushed. wtf?
First Bold: Yes for Kallen, no for the others. But I'm biased.

Second Bold: Very yes.

scifijimmy

2008-05-04, 21:23

Um wasn't it Lelouch that "made" her red.

Morgun

2008-05-04, 21:26

Suzy's plans really are half baked. If he wanted to be governor of Area 11 he could have just asked the Emperor for it when he turned in Lulu. Much easier than becoming a KoR in a half mad, half insane scheme to rise to the rank of Knight of One for the sole purpose of receiving a far lesser appointment he could have had a year ago. Suzy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. :eyespin:

ashlay

2008-05-04, 21:28

Um wasn't it Lelouch that "made" her red.
"SHAKE TIME!" XD

Suzy's plans really are half baked. If he wanted to be governor of Area 11 he could have just asked the Emperor for it when he turned in Lulu. Much easier than becoming a KoR in a half mad, half insane scheme to rise to the rank of Knight of One for the sole purpose of receiving a far lesser appointment he could have had a year ago. Suzy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. :eyespin:
Actually I think the idea is that Nunnally's the governor and Suzaku provides the backing for her to do as she pleases with Japan.

scifijimmy

2008-05-04, 21:30

Maybe so but I thought C.C. looked red BEFORE Zino's Shake.

Theron

2008-05-04, 21:36

I'm amazed though at how C.C managed to stay fairly clean. She should have been completely covered in red tomato juice! :heh:

Irenicus

2008-05-04, 21:36

First Bold: Yes for Kallen, no for the others. But I'm biased.
Villetta swimsuit was just over the top IMO :/

And I wouldn't mind C.C.'s fanservice half as much if she wasn't getting hurt! Goddammit Lulu you could at least be a bit more gentle with the way you remove her from the scene. :mad:

Suzy's plans really are half baked. If he wanted to be governor of Area 11 he could have just asked the Emperor for it when he turned in Lulu. Much easier than becoming a KoR in a half mad, half insane scheme to rise to the rank of Knight of One for the sole purpose of receiving a far lesser appointment he could have had a year ago. Suzy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
And you think the Emperor will okay that? Let a Japanese take control of Japan right after a big nativist rebellion by the Japanese? A former Prime Minister's son no less?

Even if he okays it, how long do you think before half the officials of the entire Britannian bureaucracy in Area 11 all plot against him for the position?

Aside from the fact that rising up to the Knight of One position is quite a task even for Superman, he actually carves out quite a good plan for himself. It seems the annoying Jesus Yamato-wannabe from Season 1 is dead, replaced by someone truly worthy of being Zero's nemesis. Smart, knows his opponent well, and perfectly willing to use any means necessary to achieve his goal. Of course, he's still an ass who thinks he knows best and a lot less friendly person all around -- but that's okay, because he's supposed to be the villain after all.

Kushi

2008-05-04, 21:37

Wow... Lelouch is in a tight spot! It's not as easy as some people say, it won't be fine just because he knows Nunnally is alright. He'll crush her if he pretends that he doesn't remember her. I'm so excited for the next episode now. Episode 4 didn't have a big ending teaser, but this one is hugee!!!

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:37

I don't really believe that Suzaku knows that Lelouch has gained his memories so he designed that trap. It was a poor trap too. I think this episode showed us the weaknesses of the two main characters. Lelouch sucks at physical activities but Suzaku sucks at creating a plan. When Suzaku met the two other KOR, he really thought that Lelouch would fall for his trap. However, I do believe that is Suzaku's main goal and he wasn't lying about it. But I don't believe that he doesn't hate Lelouch anymore.

Episode 6 might be a good action packed episode. Suzaku did say that his side has enough man power to handle the job. But he doesn't think at all. There's not enough man power to battle Lelouch if he already planned for it and there are no unpredictable variables. Let's face it, the only unpredictable variables will be the KOR and each one of them will be an unpredictable variable only in their introduction and each one will show their skills by foiling him in some way. However, that will be it, after that, they will fall down one by one and some will even join Zero just like what happened to Rollo.

cajunman380

2008-05-04, 21:38

because he's supposed to be the villain after all.

antagonist

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:42

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.

defrule

2008-05-04, 21:42

I think this, somehow control the emotions from the Nunally phone call.

Next move, since Nunally will become the governer of Area 11 then this does conflict with Zero's intentions and naturally Zero would oppose this.

Continue along this line, attack Nunally the new governer and one of the following happens:

1. Suzaku will defend Nunally. Zero can manipulate Suzaku in this case.

2. Suzaku does not defend Nunally. Zero will get Nunally back and there will be no need to pretend his memories have not came back.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:43

Or Suzaku could set Lelouch up to go for Nunnally when in fact she is not there.

Aquaman OS

2008-05-04, 21:44

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:46

I doubt Suzaku set this up, though it would indicate he has become much better with being devious. I say the Emperor probably had more to do with it though.

Theron

2008-05-04, 21:46

And I wouldn't mind C.C.'s fanservice half as much if she wasn't getting hurt! Goddammit Lulu you could at least be a bit more gentle with the way you remove her from the scene. :mad:Come on, it's like a pillow - very soft. And yes, I did that thing with tomatoes once.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:47

Ok! realistically speaking, becoming Knight of One is really really hard and maybe even impossible. However, it is a lot easier to believe or it is a lot more probable that Suzaku will achieve his goal rather than Lelouch, realistically speaking.

Brittanians have invaded a lot of countries and they continue to do it. They practically hold the world on their hands. What can 250ish people do against an empire that great? Brittanians have more manpower, resources, vehicles, knightmares, and technology than the BKs. It's like a harmless bug trying to rise up against a human.

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.

Isn't the villain, the king of Brittania.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:48

Given how much Suzaku seems to be in with everything the Emperor is up to, his shots are actually better than things would seem.

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 21:48

And I wouldn't mind C.C.'s fanservice half as much if she wasn't getting hurt! Goddammit Lulu you could at least be a bit more gentle with the way you remove her from the scene. :mad:

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:49

I doubt Lelouch cares that much because he knows she won't die. She would probably be the last person he would ever worry about.

ashlay

2008-05-04, 21:49

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.
More like no character in the show is really a hero. >_>

flou

2008-05-04, 21:49

Suzaku's plan isn't too far out. Putting Nunnally as governor was also a good idea if it was him that did it. (but i doubt he'd have that authority it was probably the Emperor to mess with Lelouch and Suzaku's making the most of a bad situation.) Nunnally hopefully won't commit any genocides and he can look out for her and with his rank all the other knights have to at least hear him out.

Of course this being Geass the Diablous Ex Machina will show up and make sure something goes wrong. But it's at least a noble attempt.

I think, while she had to be approved of by the Emperor, Nunnally did this of her own volition. After all, in one of the SE, it was shown Clovis actually requested the position, rather than being forced into the job. And going with Nunnally's wish to create a peaceful world, she would probably seize the opportunity herself. I'm not sure why everyone's automatically going to the Suzaku-forced-her-to-do-it option, since while he is making use of this opportunity to trap Lelouch, he doesn't have the authority to appoint someone to the role of Governor-General. He's a Knight of Rounds, but he still is just a knight.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-04, 21:50

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

And it's not like he wanted her to get shaken up in the container, he just kind of dropped her in a bed of tomatoes, which are apparently very soft according to Theron >_>

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:52

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

You know, even immortals have feelings too. LOL JK.
Yeah, your sig, I don't think that's correct.
I'm pretty sure he said "If you are a witch then I'll become a warlock"

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 21:52

I doubt Lelouch cares that much because he knows she won't die. She would probably be the last person he would ever worry about.

And I think that's sad. I just hope that he will realize that she can be HURT, too but she just can't die.

Aquaman OS

2008-05-04, 21:54

Brittanians have invaded a lot of countries and they continue to do it. They practically hold the world on their hands. What can 250ish people do against an empire that great? Brittanians have more manpower, resources, vehicles, knightmares, and technology than the BKs. It's like a harmless bug trying to rise up against a human.

Lelouch's plan just won't work as is. Even if he does in the end manage to defeat Britannia he's just going reverse the world situation and Britannian survivors are going be to persecuted by angry numbers. Just look what happened in Ep 25. The instant the Japanese had a bit of control back then went nuts and started attacking every Britannian they could find most of whom were just civillians. That will not make a peaceful world for Nunnally. If anything that will make things worse since she's a Britannian and now a royal in position of power making her a prime target of Japanese anger. So basically nobody can really win now unless an unexpected third option (which is pretty much what I'm counting on) happens that manages to unite the world or something.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 21:54

He'll probably realize it too late when she actually does die.

Morgun

2008-05-04, 21:55

And you think the Emperor will okay that? Let a Japanese take control of Japan right after a big nativist rebellion by the Japanese? A former Prime Minister's son no less?

Of course he'd ok it. The emperor doesn't give a crap who governs Area 11. Hell, he even appointed the blind, crippled sister of the latest rebel leader as the next governor. Everything in Britannia is subject to the emperor's whim. If he'd agree to let Suzy into the prestigious KoR, he'd let him choose a lesser position like governor of a bunch of useless sub-humans (from his point of view).

Even if he okays it, how long do you think before half the officials of the entire Britannian bureaucracy in Area 11 all plot against him for the position?

This is Britannia we're talking about. It's going to happen anyway. That is just the way they do things.

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 21:55

He'll probably realize it too late when she actually does die.

I kinda hope that would happen, but I also hope that she doesn't have to die in the end before he knows it.

ashlay

2008-05-04, 21:56

And I think that's sad. I just hope that he will realize that she can be HURT, too but she just can't die.
uh...he does. Look at the first season. He's worried about her on multiple occasions. The current Lelouch sees C.C. as a person...but that doesn't mean he won't mess with her anyway. :rolleyes:

So yeah, Theron says it's like a soft pillow, and it's not like Lelouch was expecting Gino to show up. It was harsh of him, but it's not like he expected her to get hurt badly, nor have to suffer anywhere near the amount of discomfort she end up having. >_>

Irenicus

2008-05-04, 21:57

antagonist
Careless wording. Big deal.

At least I'm not screaming Suzaku must die! again. ;)

Come on, it's like a pillow - very soft. And yes, I did that thing with tomatoes once.
I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.
It's the sentiment that counts, and his sentiment is, well, completely uncaring. Treat your witch more preciously you stupid prince. :mad:

...although I do think I'll try jumping into a tomato bed sometimes just to feel how it's like. :heh:

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 21:57

Yeah, your sig, I don't think that's correct.
I'm pretty sure he said "If you are a witch then I'll become a warlock"

Hehe, I just translated it with the way my language would say it. And I wrote it in English, so it kind of turned out differently. >_<

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 21:58

I think it's every girl's fantasy to be pushed by Lelouch into a pile of tomatoes just to show that he does care about her safety.

Seriously though, how many women in the Code geass can say that? I bet shirley was jealous instinctively that's why she was there and she took it out on Kallen.

kimchipride

2008-05-04, 22:04

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 22:05

That's why I said instinctively.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 22:06

I kinda hope that would happen, but I also hope that she doesn't have to die in the end before he knows it.

Meh, this is me talking though and my thoughts regarding this subject are somewhat known.

So yeah, Theron says it's like a soft pillow, and it's not like Lelouch was expecting Gino to show up. It was harsh of him, but it's not like he expected her to get hurt badly, nor have to suffer anywhere near the amount of discomfort she end up having. >_>

Did Lelouch know that it was like a soft pillow? I'm sure he didn't care as long as she wasn't seen by someone.

kimchipride

2008-05-04, 22:10

Did Viletta sensei die? I'm unclear on that.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 22:10

Meh, this is me talking though and my thoughts regarding this subject are somewhat known.

Did Lelouch know that it was like a soft pillow? I'm sure he didn't care as long as she wasn't seen by someone.

I'm also formulating a theory that Lelouch really doesn't care about C.C. and he pushed her to the tomatoes just so that he (or we) can see her panties and definitely not because he doesn't want her get captured.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 22:12

Did Viletta sensei die? I'm unclear on that.
Uh, no.

I don't get where you'd get that idea from.

BTW... Someone refresh my memory of R1. What's the significance of that bottle of wine Lulu gives Villetta?

Theron

2008-05-04, 22:12

And it's not like he wanted her to get shaken up in the container, he just kind of dropped her in a bed of tomatoes, which are apparently very soft according to Theron >_>That's right. But when you finally get out - you're completely and totally red. Everything from hair to underwear is absolutely. I have no idea how she managed to stay relatively clean. :twitch:

And if you want to try that out after what I just said - well, don't.

Lugia_Tsuyu

2008-05-04, 22:13

Is he trying to save her from getting in trouble if someone sees her? Or actually trying to get himself out of trouble? These questions keep running in my head after I saw what he did to her.

And my freind (Dann you know I mentioned HIM before) , keeps saying "Of course he worries for her, what else could it be?" <<< er....it can many other things, my friend (But I didn't want to fight with him, so I just keep it to myself.)

War_Lord

2008-05-04, 22:19

Just finished watching ep.5. Suzaku has officially earned my respect. Overall I give this one a 9 due to the great fan service and priceless look on Lulu's face at the end.

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 22:19

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 22:22

A bit of both. Her getting captured is a problem in a lot of ways for him and especially her. Besides, Lelouch doesn't seem the kind of guy to just let his comrade get captured, especially when he has an agreement with her.

No, I refuse to believe or agree with this. It's got to be the panties. That's the only logical reason there is. PANTIES!!!

pagan poor

2008-05-04, 22:23

Of course he'd ok it. The emperor doesn't give a crap who governs Area 11. Hell, he even appointed the blind, crippled sister of the latest rebel leader as the next governor. Everything in Britannia is subject to the emperor's whim. If he'd agree to let Suzy into the prestigious KoR, he'd let him choose a lesser position like governor of a bunch of useless sub-humans (from his point of view).

I'll agree on that on a limited basis on it as I'm not sure what the Emperor's true plan is. However, it seems that the Emperor and Suzaku agreed on the "let's screw with Lelouch" part of the plan. :)

BTW... Someone refresh my memory of R1. What's the significance of that bottle of wine Lulu gives Villetta?

In Ep. 3, Lulu and Shirley went to that mall to get a gift for Villetta's birthday.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 22:24

In Ep. 3, Lulu and Shirley went to that mall to get a gift for Villetta's birthday.
Wow. My memory sucks. It wasn't even R1.

Thanks. LOL

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-04, 22:24

Stop being silly, FW.

Cyz

2008-05-04, 22:26

flou

2008-05-04, 22:26

You know, even immortals have feelings too. LOL JK.
Yeah, your sig, I don't think that's correct.
I'm pretty sure he said "If you are a witch then I'll become a warlock"

No, he said "maou" which is basically a Demon King or the Devil.

gabbytay

2008-05-04, 22:29

Well, that was unexpected. I must say, Suzaku becoming Lelouch's stalker (or so to speak) is giving Lelouch a hard time.....well not really since he did manage to avoid getting caught.
So I guess, Nunnally is Suzaku's last effort to test Lelouch if he really did gained his memories back. After all, he said that it's one of his memories that were lost. You think, he'll deny knowing Nunnally?

he doesnt have any other choice besides killing him and he might get kicked in the ball if he said yes.
Suzaku is not smart he just got lucky (taking a small blind girl as a hostage) ;)

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 22:30

Yeah, but Nunnally isn't Suzaku's hostage. He's not the hostage-taker in this situation.

lazybug659

2008-05-04, 22:30

Well, that was unexpected. I must say, Suzaku becoming Lelouch's stalker (or so to speak) is giving Lelouch a hard time.....well not really since he did manage to avoid getting caught.
So I guess, Nunnally is Suzaku's last effort to test Lelouch if he really did gained his memories back. After all, he said that it's one of his memories that were lost. You think, he'll deny knowing Nunnally?

most likely in my opinion. If he's going to make sure that everyone thinks that he didn't get his memories back, then he has to say that he doesn't know nunally because she wasn't part of his memories because the emperor rewrote them. I'm going to cry rivers if he does tell her that and she gets all sad.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 22:31

Omfgbbqwtf

2008-05-04, 22:33

im gonna give this episode a 10/10 just because of the last scene. I wonder how will Lulu act in the next episode, since he is not suppose to know who Nunally is.

lazybug659

2008-05-04, 22:33

I'm exceedingly curious to hear what story was given to her as to why Lulu isn't around anymore.

Does that mean she knows that he isn't zero or is zero. She could also know and trying to see if he's zero or not and helping suzaku.

Spectacular_Insanity

2008-05-04, 22:34

That ending made me think one thing and one thing only: Oh. My. God. 0.0

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 22:35

Does that mean she knows that he isn't zero or is zero. She could also know and trying to see if he's zero or not and helping suzaku.
Somehow I don't think she'd buy into that. She strikes me as the kind of person who'd not believe her kind-hearted brother is a "terrorist" (as per the Britanians... and me).

lazybug659

2008-05-04, 22:36

I wonder what will lelouch say to nunally when suzaku is right there next to him. Plus the phone can be bugged.

lazybug659

2008-05-04, 22:38

Somehow I don't think she'd buy into that. She strikes me as the kind of person who'd not believe her kind-hearted brother is a "terrorist" (as per the Britanians... and me).

Yeah, I guess ur right. So he's never going to tell her that he's zero? How about after the rebellion? Will he tell her then?

Boduar

2008-05-04, 22:38

Major1138

2008-05-04, 22:55

Irenicus

2008-05-04, 22:59

Its kind of funny that lelouch wanted to make a peaceful world for nunally yet since hes started shes been kidnapped twice. If lelouch had just stayed a student and done nothing special she would still be at school having fun etc etc. Basically I dont see how pre-zero nunally had that bad of a life the only ones really in a bad position were the elevens, britannians were just fine.
In R1, I think it was said at some point that the Ashfords cannot protect the brother-sister pair forever. In fact, the proposed marriage between Millay and Earl Lloyd is the attempt by her parents to realign Ashford loyalties from the fallen cause of Marianne's children to someone else with more potential.

So they were living on borrowed time pretty much. Of course, Lulu being Lulu, he could probably have done something much less drastic and still secure a place for him and his sister somewhere -- the world is a big place, disappearing into a new life is always an option especially for someone as smart and meticulous as him -- but then we won't get our tale of blood and rollerskating warring mechs now won't we? :)

He also seemed exceedingly discontent with living on such tightropes, against his royal pride or some such. It wasn't all that obvious in R1, but the "episode 1 repeat" of R2 showed that quite openly. I mean, he was born to make it big -- of royal descent, talented, spectacular -- but he knew, and it's stated in the show explicitly, that if he was going to protect him and his sister then he must live his entire life in obscurity: no big promotions, no CEO chairs, no Imperial warmongering, no Black Rebellions: all that zomg haxx talent was going to go to waste.

kimchipride

2008-05-04, 23:01

Uh, no.

I don't get where you'd get that idea from.

BTW... Someone refresh my memory of R1. What's the significance of that bottle of wine Lulu gives Villetta?

Ok, Villetta now knows Rollo switched sides
AND she finds out that Lelouche got his memory back
AND she sees Kallen.

So wouldn't it make sense he killed her? Rollo was holding the gun at point-blank range too.

I'm gonna be pissed at you if we find out next episode that she's dead and you're accusing me of being wrong.

Synria_

2008-05-04, 23:04

This episode leave you with so much hatred. I can only hope that Suzaku's time will end when he gets betrayed by Britannia and at the same time gets rejected by the Japanese people and zero himself. He will feel all alone and worthless. (<------------ HINT SUNRISE!)

All hate aside, YES ON KALLEN!

<------------ Avatar is smoking, and so is that swimsuit. God damn... how many guys will be paying attention to my posts now... :D

Major1138

2008-05-04, 23:07

Ok, Villetta now knows Rollo switched sides
AND she finds out that Lelouche got his memory back

So wouldn't it make sense he killed her? He was holding the gun at point-blank range too.

I'm gonna be pissed at you if we find out next episode that she's dead and you're accusing me of being wrong.

Why would Lelouch kill her? If he does, the game is up - they'll almost certainly suspect him right away, and he already has to deal with Suzaku trying to figure out if he has his memories back or not.

If anything, it sounds like he's blackmailing her - if she doesn't help him, he'll reveal her relationship with the second in command of the black knights and she'll lose the noble status she's fought so long to get. Of course, she could just as easily say status be damned and tell him to do his worst - but it wouldn't be nearly as dramatic that way.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 23:07

I'm gonna be pissed at you if we find out next episode that she's dead and you're accusing me of being wrong.

You need to have more faith in your abilities. Even if you are wrong in your speculations but if your logic or reasoning are both concrete and sound then it's all good.

She can't be dead. She still has parts to play like the romance between Ougi and her. If she is going to die, she will die in a romeo/juliet kind of way or at least they will treat her death better.

Also, if Lelouch wanted her dead, he would have done it a long time ago by using Rollo. He didn't have to go through all that trouble just to kill her. He could have just asked Rollo to do it in the first place.

kimchipride

2008-05-04, 23:09

Why would Lelouch kill her? If he does, the game is up - they'll almost certainly suspect him right away, and he already has to deal with Suzaku trying to figure out if he has his memories back or not.

If anything, it sounds like he's blackmailing her - if she doesn't help him, he'll reveal her relationship with the second in command of the black knights and she'll lose the noble status she's fought so long to get. Of course, she could just as easily say status be damned and tell him to do his worst - but it wouldn't be nearly as dramatic that way.

Thanks, this explains everything.

Revolutionist

2008-05-04, 23:10

im gonna give this episode a 10/10 just because of the last scene. I wonder how will Lulu act in the next episode, since he is not suppose to know who Nunally is.

There's a way he can get out of this even if he acknowledges Nunnaly. Rolo geasses Suzaku while lelouch stays outside of geass range.

JagdPanther

2008-05-04, 23:11

Ok, Villetta now knows Rollo switched sides
AND she finds out that Lelouche got his memory back
AND she sees Kallen.

So wouldn't it make sense he killed her? Rollo was holding the gun at point-blank range too.

I'm gonna be pissed at you if we find out next episode that she's dead and you're accusing me of being wrong.
She doesn't know who Kallen is, though.

It makes 0 sense to kill her. If she turns up and dead, what do the Brittanians think?

"Well, it's either some bad coincidence, or Lelouch has his memory back and he axed her."

Killing her basically screws his plan of keeping it quiet.

By getting her under his control, he can assure he won't be found out so easily. The Brits would have to specifically assign new resources to observe him, and not under Villetta's orders.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-04, 23:19

I'm going to say this to the people that ask the questions for any char- why didn't Lelouch just kill him/her or why didn't Lelouch just used his geass or why didn't Lelouch just geassed someone to kill him/her. I know where you guys are coming from. If Lelouch just kill her/him or geass him/her in the first place then he wouldn't have to go through a lot of trouble or problems or deal with any of the complications he/she would bring. See, that's the way most people think which is do the simplest solution to solve a problem so it won't bring anymore complications. This is not the way Lelouch mind works. Instead of thinking "I don't want to deal with you in the future, now or ever in my lifetime since you can bring problems", he thinks more along the lines "I can deal with this fellow and I can tolerate his actions or problems he/she might bring since I will definitely use this fellow to the fullest extent to get me closer to my goals".

Kusaja

2008-05-04, 23:26

The fanservice got a little ridiculous, but at least it was in a school comedy setting and Kallen didn't monopolize it.

Great episode otherwise, too busy to comment too long on it.

SamKajam

2008-05-04, 23:30

god... because of bandwidth issues, I had to resort to streaming to watch this episode, which had subs translated from chinese subs..

first, lmao at some translations, and second damn it i'm so confused because non of the translations made sense.

i actually lol'd though when they translated "Yes my lord!" to "YES my Jesus!"

Yu Ominae

2008-05-04, 23:33

I'm left speechless.

Should I chant in my room the following?

"It didn't happen."

"Suzaku was playing with Lelouch."

finalnight

2008-05-04, 23:37

I'm gonna be pissed at you if we find out next episode that she's dead and you're accusing me of being wrong.

Why would Lelouch kill her when he has a chance to tap that? Did you see the screenshots? :o

bbduece

2008-05-04, 23:44

So season 1 is officially called R1? I'm trying to clearified this.

Fan service never bothered me as long as it does not damage the integrity of the show.

Koshimizu

2008-05-04, 23:52

So season 1 is officially called R1? I'm trying to clearified this.No.
And they are not going to attach anything to the original title.
It's "Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion" and that's that.

Jeffry2009

2008-05-04, 23:58

:upset: NUNNALY!! :upset:

Nice face expression, lelouch. ;)

anyway nice episode to me. I mean it's the episode compares from S1 episode 21 where ashford attempts to make the worlds largest pizza but everything was backfired thanks to C.C. :heh:

Theron

2008-05-05, 00:02

So season 1 is officially called R1? I'm trying to clearified this.No, it's officaly the Wakamoto Syndrome. ;)

Synria_

2008-05-05, 00:04

The guy who said that rolo will use his geass on suzaku is actually what i'm hoping for, and allowing lulu to talk to nunally. That would be awesome. Nice speculation, although my gut tells me we will see lulu fake ignorance.

Damn suzaku! I hope kallen beats him in a knightmare... 1v1... that would be epic.

flou

2008-05-05, 00:05

No.
And they are not going to attach anything to the original title.
It's "Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion" and that's that.

Personally, I'm just using it since one of the magazines used it :heh: It's easier to say than season 1.

Cyz

2008-05-05, 00:11

most likely in my opinion. If he's going to make sure that everyone thinks that he didn't get his memories back, then he has to say that he doesn't know nunally because she wasn't part of his memories because the emperor rewrote them. I'm going to cry rivers if he does tell her that and she gets all sad.
That would be really painful to Lelouch if he did but like he have any options with Suzaku breathing behind his back. You know, if they're putting Lelouch in a constant surveilance, it just mean that Britannia is afraid of his skills. That or they just want to mess with Lelouch's head :heh:

--> Shirley in a swimsuit + semi maid outfit = :love:
--> I laugh when C.C tries to cling at the tomato container and also when Lelouch gave chase and gave up few minutes later :heh:

Jeffry2009

2008-05-05, 00:11

Damn suzaku! I hope kallen beats him in a knightmare... 1v1... that would be epic.

Suzaku, you're EEVILLLLL!! how dare you took my sister (Nunnally) from me! :mad:

oh hang on, you're saw that it, didn't you?

Niar

2008-05-05, 00:56

If I were Lulu i would just small talk with the girl on the phone , something like "how are you doing" + ect. than after the talk ask Suzaku what prank that was, i mean a girlish voice supposed to be an governor ?

Tendou88

2008-05-05, 01:13

Wow great episode !
more like relax episode.
The last scene changed the atmosphere keke.
Now Suzaku have crossed the line, but i still think that he's a good guy(inside).

ThoHell

2008-05-05, 01:26

Poor Lulu, he's going to have to fight his sister now, he's breaking apart. Damn guy has everything against him, world and all. Would suck to be him....VERY MUCH!! What will happen what will happen? Sister and former best friend going to try to make a better country and so is Lulu, but both against each other....same goal somewhat but opposite sides. What will he do or feel breaking his sister heart, the only person he can't ever or wish to or even imagine of hurting?

Suzaku has really become malicious and dark...emperor's dog...

UltimaWolf

2008-05-05, 01:28

Poor Lulu, he's going to have to fight his sister now, he's breaking apart. Damn guy has everything against him, world and all. Would suck to be him....VERY MUCH!! What will happen what will happen? Sister and former best friend going to try to make a better country and so is Lulu, but both against each other....same goal somewhat but opposite sides. What will he do or feel breaking his sister heart, the only person he can't ever or wish to or even imagine of hurting?

It does suck at the moment, to be Lulu, I'm guessing either he'll just talk casually to her or pretend he doesn't know her which will break her heart(and possibly his) Suzaku is evil, but atleast he's much better than last season.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-05, 01:29

Damn suzaku! I hope kallen beats him in a knightmare... 1v1... that would be epic.

The thing is, Suzaku's Lancelot is very agile and can fly. Kallen's knightmare cannot fly. If it is 1vs1 on fair ground and no flying allowed, I definitely think that Kallen has the advantage. Her knightmare is designed for close combat. Suzaku's knightmare can fly which really gives him the advantage and suzaku is also the antagonist so the plot is also shielding him since he is supposed to be the gundam wannabe 1 man army in this anime while Kallen is supposed to be Lelouch's stongest knightmare fighter.

I think this episode also shows what happened and what's going to happen between Suzaku and Kallen in a knightmare battle. It's just like the part where Suzaku is running for the cat and Kallen/lelouch is running for CC. Suzaku has the skills to be first and he will always be ahead. Kallen has the ability to match Suzaku but there will always be a reason why she lose or be behind Suzaku. This time it's because she was wearing a suit.

In battle, it could have been that her unit is previously injured so she lose, or someone showed up so it's 2 vs 1, or she was protecting someone or more focus on something else which is why she lose, etc. You know things like those nature.

ThoHell

2008-05-05, 01:33

The thing is, Suzaku's Lancelot is very agile and can fly. Kallen's knightmare cannot fly. If it is 1vs1 on fair ground and no flying allowed, I definitely think that Kallen has the advantage. Her knightmare is designed for close combat. Suzaku's knightmare can fly which really gives him the advantage and suzaku is also the antagonist so the plot is also shielding him since he is supposed to be the gundam wannabe 1 man army in this anime while Kallen is supposed to be Lelouch's stongest knightmare fighter..

I don't like Suzaku, but I'm going to have to say he's better than Kallen. Even if she has an advantage or not, she would still loose to him straight up in a fair match. And I'm going to have to say the only match for Suzaku and Lulu's strongest pilot is Rolo.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-05, 01:45

I don't like Suzaku, but I'm going to have to say he's better than Kallen. Even if she has an advantage or not, she would still loose to him straight up in a fair match. And I'm going to have to say the only match for Suzaku and Lulu's strongest pilot is Rolo.

I forgot which episode it was but they did have a straight up fair match in S1, Kallen was kicking his butt and destroyed most of his weapons. However, Kallen lost but not because of Suzaku but the ground destabilized and Kallen's knightmare fell. So Suzaku did get lucky in a way and Kallen lost because of some reason but it wasn't because of Suzaku's superior skills.

Tendou88

2008-05-05, 01:45

ThoHell

2008-05-05, 02:00

I forgot which episode it was but they did have a straight up fair match in S1, Kallen was kicking his butt and destroyed most of his weapons. However, Kallen lost but not because of Suzaku but the ground destabilized and Kallen's knightmare fell. So Suzaku did get lucky in a way and Kallen lost because of some reason but it wasn't because of Suzaku's superior skills.

That was his first encounter with her new nightmare and it's freaky nuclear arm thing. He was surprised, but easily passed her when he needed. Ever since that first encounter, she was like a speed bump or stepping stone to him, slowed him for a bit until he really wanted to rid himself of it. Have we seen a Suzaku go ape sh*t like Kallen does most of the time she's up against him or anyone. A serious Suzaku vs and serious Kallen..hmm....I'm going to have to vote for the guy that I dislike, Suzaku....

ashesatdusk

2008-05-05, 02:17

Anyone else not expecting that ending? I think my face looked almost as good as lou lou's. I'm wondering if Suzaku is being serious or is he testing to see if lelouch has regained his memories.

Crontica

2008-05-05, 02:29

Ahhhhh 10/10 the last scene was the Pwnzors.
The fan service was abit too much LOL at Red C.C
i hate Da Ex Machina = D.E.M that annoying plot device ruins all the good bits i guess we have to wait next time for What the hell rollos Geass weakness is.

if Lulu did not turn around the moment he held the phone we would already be seeing Lulu Spin kicked off the building, what i want to know is how did lulu knew he had to turn around was this a extra precaution or intuition?

anti-random

2008-05-05, 02:30

Brilliantly played by Suzaku. nunally has governor puts LL plans into question. Can anybody want to break into Sunrise to watch the next few episodes? I. LL will probably stop Nunally being governor by directing an attack on a military base so the area is deemed to dangerous for her to be in. Cornelia will probably help LL.

FuzzyWuzzy

2008-05-05, 02:36

We all got shock and surprised with Suzaku's plan and how he will get Japan. However, his plan or trap to see whether Lelouch gained his memories back is not really that good. A trap that caliber would not capture Lelouch. It may have taken him off guard but he can easily recover from it.

aurr

2008-05-05, 02:40

I was wathcing the ep in a wierd sub, where some words were just put on as romanji and sentences didn't make sense. So could someone please put in spoilers what was the dialog with Suzaku and Gino?

Morri07

2008-05-05, 03:00

anti-random

2008-05-05, 03:17

All operatives are gone.Remember that Rollo and Villetta are the only ones left. CC makes sense because she likes Pizza.

Aris

2008-05-05, 03:23

Ignoring the brilliant finale, that was a kinda weak episode...
Even all the fanservice they threw in could not vindicate it...

The Order of the Black Knights are presumably still in the embassy, but why are they not surrounded (or are they)? How does Lulu manage to get so easily in and out of it (secret magic route no justu)?
Then out of nowhere comes a scene with Rolo and how Lulu managed to geass all operatives; then C2 appears, which ruined the episode for me - this was sooo illogical on all levels... Of course, Karren is short to follow and she sees Villetta and explains her romance with Ougi to Lulu and she is cornered too... and that's it... :confused:

Yes, I am ignoring all scenes with Suzaku... :heh:

they are still in embassy, because if they leave, they will be considered intruders to britania, since zero declared nation of japan and all of Ootbk are now consider its citizen. and since the governor died, and gilford is no longer there, millitary action cannot be authorized, so i would think there are no army surrounding the "chinese embassy"

lulu gets in and out using Li's car, diplomatic right restrict searching of that car.

C.C heard that there was pizza, and got out. Karran followed, then she runs into Villetta, which she saw before and thought nothing of because it was common to have operatives in Ootbk and zero cant possiblely remember them all.

but now she sees her agian, and is surpriced that she is neither in jail nor with the rest of them at the embassy, so naturally she tells zero, after showing both her and lulu's retardness towards relationship, C.C helps them out. lulu finds an opening to her and exploit it. solves his problem when he cannot geass her again.

so now lulu had full control of school as his "freedom land" then suzaku blew the bomb shell.

Marioshinobi

2008-05-05, 03:32

Does Kallen remember Nunally? Because if she does, wouldn’t she logically figure out Lelouch is a prince?

Also, They said they Found Nina's Box that had death threats ( Who's the beard man? written onto the box ) but we see the same box on the roof with Kallen, C.C. Lelouch and in the car.

I'm guessing Cheese-kun was inside? O.o

RedWing

2008-05-05, 03:33

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/548/1209946766699dv4.jpg

Forget Lelouch's face, look at suzaku's. That is the face of an evil S.O.B

Lelouch can still get out of the phone call situation if he puts the phone down immediately, and asks Suzaku why the governor is calling him brother.

Red_eyes

2008-05-05, 03:36

Can someone help clarify something?

When Suzaku first meets Lelouch again in the classroom, Lelouch says "You made a mistake, Suzku. You came over to me with just the name, "Lelouch". In other words, your actions tell me you already know everything about me."

What is he getting at? Seems a little confusing. Also one more thing, in the beginning of the episode he says to Kallen "I haven't made our relationship public yet." What does that mean? Just a little confused thanks!

Whitemoon648

2008-05-05, 03:36

On the bright side for Lulu, he doesnt have to look for her any more. She is soon going to come to area 11. I think although it was/will be so sad to see Lulu lie to nunally about him not knowing her, Lulu now has the advantage.

Lulu has been cautious and restrictive because Nunally has been their hostage. But if she comes to area 11, he can comes up with a plan to secure and snatch her away *_*.

Can someone help clarify something?

When Suzaku first meets Lelouch again in the classroom, Lelouch says "You made a mistake, Suzku. You came over to me with just the name, "Lelouch". In other words, your actions tell me you already know everything about me."

What is he getting at? Seems a little confusing. Also one more thing, in the beginning of the episode he says to Kallen "I haven't made our relationship public yet." What does that mean? Just a little confused thanks!

Lulu doesnt exactly know what memories were fake. C.C. released the seal and thus his real memories came back.

We know a few things based on the diary and lulu regaining his memory. Lulu didnt remeber everything just due to C.C. He regained some of his memory after the release and then after reading the diary he remembered the rest. For one we know that The emperor has changed his memory of him being a prince, his mom, his sister and Lulu being Zero. But that might not be everything. Lulu cant be 100 percent sure if those are the only memories that were changed. Also we need to learn more about how Emperor's geass works.

But what about Suzaku. Is he supposed to know suzaku? Are they still supposed to be friends? So One way for them to check if Lulu has regained his memory is to see if he rememberes Suzaku. And lulu realizes that they are still supposed to be friends, since as soon as villeta called Lulu's name, Suzaku goes toward him( which shows that he already know who he is , thus = friends). So that means Suzaku is supposed to be friend with Lulu.

And about the kallen part. Remember how she said that she only obeys Zero and not Lulu? Kallen asks her if he is keeping a secrete as Zero or Lulu and Lulu basically answers her in a flirting way. By saying that their relationship isnt public yet ( no one knows about it ) and thus he meant he is ordering in the name of zero. And then you even see C.C. Follows to make sure if Zero wants the fact that both know his true identity to be a secrete and He sais yes.

It was priceless as how she felt left out *_*. I loved that saracastic tone that she replied with.

Sannom

2008-05-05, 03:45

Seriously though, how many women in the Code geass can say that? I bet shirley was jealous instinctively that's why she was there and she took it out on Kallen.

She didn't see her, even if she heard her. I wonder if Lelouch understood what it could mean to Shirley that they're the only ones here :heh: And I think that Shirley thought that the mascot was somehow hurting her Lulu, so she get him out and put him out of harm ways :D And then she wanted to know who would try to harm him...

Sandara Lee

2008-05-05, 03:45

if Lulu did not turn around the moment he held the phone we would already be seeing Lulu Spin kicked off the building, what i want to know is how did lulu knew he had to turn around was this a extra precaution or intuition?

That turning around while taking the call was a smooth move. I don't know if it was instinctive or just a cunning strategy. But the shock on his face was priceless :D now if Suzaku saw that, there'd be no escape. Good thing he's still clueless, there's still hope Lulu.

Whitemoon648

2008-05-05, 03:57

She didn't see her, even if she heard her. I wonder if Lelouch understood what it could mean to Shirley that they're the only ones here :heh: And I think that Shirley thought that the mascot was somehow hurting her Lulu, so she get him out and put him out of harm ways :D And then she wanted to know who would try to harm him...

Probably not. She was just pissed that she lost her chance :heh: . Lulu Belongs to Shirly after all :rolleyes:.

That turning around while taking the call was a smooth move. I don't know if it was instinctive or just a cunning strategy. But the shock on his face was priceless :D now if Suzaku saw that, there'd be no escape. Good thing he's still clueless, there's still hope Lulu.

Lol. wasnt it just luck ?

Marioshinobi

2008-05-05, 04:12

Whitemoon648

2008-05-05, 04:20

ANOTHER THING!

What happened to the Carving-Wall girl? She stopped her marking midway(literally, she never finished her complete cross and only did a line)-Was she stupid enough to be outside marking when Black Rebellion Started?

LOL. Maybe a spin off episode of a spin off episode could answer that question.

Well maybe she is still making her marks and is known as the mark girl in the school *_*.

Plus black rebellion was at night. She only made those marks at day time :D.

P.S. yes yes, iknow that wasnt a serious question *_*. I just felt to answer it seriously >_<.

noir senshi

2008-05-05, 04:57

Man, I get the feeling that Lelouch is paving his way to death now. :(

The more he relies on others, the easier it is for him to lose because of it. Sure he has Rolo and assumed blackmailed Villetta. It was also shown that the seeds of doubt have been sowed in some members of the Black Knights, I'm not convinced that they've all been persuaded by Todou. If Rolo, Villetta or members of the Black Knights betray or slip up one day, it could mean the end of Lelouch.

mangastuff

2008-05-05, 05:37

The only ending that I can't not stand is that Lulu finds he is wrong and Suza is right, or sth similar to it. It will ruin the whole CG >*< If it is the case, I will break my CG DVD, deleting all files I have in my comp, n consider if I should bomb Sunrise >*<

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-05, 06:11

Methuselah

2008-05-05, 06:31

Sinestra

2008-05-05, 06:40

As long as Lelouch wins with Kallen, C.C. and the ones close to him in tack, we won't complain on how unmoral he is. XD I think this is what we kind of focus on, Lelouch. Suzaku-wise, we still hate him even though he seemed to be as ruthless as Lelouch by using Nunnally.

Yea i thought using Nunnally was pretty low, but then again it was the perfect test to see if Lelouch got his memory back. What irritated me was how he doesnt seem to care that he is partly responsible for erasing the memories of the person Lelouch cherishes the most. Plus his grand plan for becoming the Knight of One and taking Area 11 as his territory. I cant begin to go into how flawed that plan is because the Japanese people would never accept him and Suzaku would just have to rule the area with an Iron fist. So my hatred for Suzaku still burns as bright the sun but he was not so annoying this episode.

Viletta is screwed.........AGAIN :p

Methuselah

2008-05-05, 06:45

I think his plan might actually work for the Japanese people. They will accept Suzaku for a slight bit of peace..

CJL13

2008-05-05, 06:47

I expect LL to maybe congradulate Nunnally and tell her about what's happened in the past year (Excluding the Rollo and Zero bits) then give the phone back to Suzaku.

Zero can't exactly attack the area with the intention of stopping Nunnally from arriving because that would give Suzaku the impression he had his memories back. Also the Black Knights will probably want to take her down seeing that a blind cripple isn't going to stop them. The best LL can do now is try to convince the Knights to try to get Nunnally on their side or fight her.

Bloodseeker

2008-05-05, 06:49

I always enjoy crazy high school antics episodes.

Then again, I always enjoy Code Geass in general. (sans the last episode of the Mao arc... anti-climatic episode was anti-climatic)

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncySG2OUSw

CJL13

2008-05-05, 06:53

LL was not made to handle Benny Hill. :heh:

Tormenk

2008-05-05, 07:01

Well Zero's return and acceptance by the rest of the Order is really weak but nothing forgiveable. :rolleyes:

The rest of the episode was incredibly fun though. Kallen getting used for fanservice again but seems like she'll shine again with next ep's battle. Chachamaru C.C. was a pleasant surprise and looks like she really likes hugging things. :heh:

Had a nice intro with Zino and Anya. Like the former but couldn't really get a feel of the latter. And just to clarify something, is Zino voiced by Hoshi, Kira's VA? :twitch:

Sinestra

2008-05-05, 07:15

I think his plan might actually work for the Japanese people. They will accept Suzaku for a slight bit of peace..

Im not so sure about that Japanese resentment is at an all time high. Some Japanese might accept him for the sake of peace. But I can see the majority hating him for the fact that he was a Japanese who join the Britannian military and now returns to his homeland as a ruler. Either way you look at it hes going to be seen as a traitor. As long as Japan is ruled by a foreign power some sort of rebellion will be present. I see Suzaku's thinking and i understand why he thinks it will be good idea but he needs to think a little harder its not that simple.

I still maintain the fact that no country has the right to occupy another which is why i support OBK. If someone invades your country use any means at your disposal to remove them.

Narona

2008-05-05, 07:19

Viletta is probably going to hate Ougi now and think he told Lelouch about the whole thing.
I don't have any hope about those two since turn 5 -.- Thanks to Lelouch <_< :/

But if I want to be optimistic, this may be the only way to change things. She would not leave its status as Baroness anyway, I think. Now, she will perhaps meet Ougi again. Hoping that she will not shoot him again though :(

D a m i e n

2008-05-05, 07:22

using nunnaly was the smartest move since a very long time (kinda like "just as planned ®")
it places lelouch in a very difficult position:
nunnaly is now an enemy as she is the governor, he cant possibly harm her as his brother but in the same time he cant leave her alone and not take any action against her when he wears his Zero mask and he cant order ootbk to leave her alone as it would compromise his position.
suzaku has a huge leverage on him by having her as a hostage restraining even more lelouch's margin of movement.
i m curious to know how this will resolve, i just hope it wont be the same kind of resolution as the way he earned the ootbk's trust back cause it was cheap as hell.

Stretch5920

2008-05-05, 07:22

Hey it's not like Viletta is innocent here. She's a racist and she shot Ougi. Even if Ougi did sell her out, she had it coming.

@Damien

He is just going to try and kidnap her. And fail obviously.

Kai Yukari

2008-05-05, 07:27

I think his plan might actually work for the Japanese people. They will accept Suzaku for a slight bit of peace..

Ruling Area 11 with such an unfeeling look on his face? I wonder what will happen...:uhoh: Also wondering about Viletta's bathing suit, if it's humanly possible to wear such a tiny bikini :D

Narona

2008-05-05, 07:32

Hey it's not like Viletta is innocent here. She's a racist and she shot Ougi. Even if Ougi did sell her out, she had it coming.

It's not so simple.

She doesn't seem to be racist anymore (well, not like in R1). She now has feelings for Ougi again.

About Ougi, even if it seems stupid for some people, he's not the type of person to have grudge against her, even after being shot by her.

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-05, 07:37

Lelouch could easily die or disappear in the end, but a DN end? No way in hell is that going to happen and it isn't just my dislike for such an ending. It simply wouldn't be n Taniguchi's style to do such a thing, especially given all his comments about Lelouch.

And I hope they start making Lelouch more charming soon because he really hasn't been looking too good lately, what with Rollo being a mere tool and his using of what happened to Viletta to his advantage though C.C. is to blame for that in yet another instance of her showing no sense of morals whatsoever.

Viletta is probably going to hate Ougi now and think he told Lelouch about the whole thing.

On a seperate note, I thought Light got what he had coming for becoming so arrogant and convinced of himself being better than everyone else. He lost his way, if he ever had one. Watch someone make a connection between Lelouch and Light because of this comment.

Wait... what? Uhhhmm, how can you really make the insinuation, from all aspects of it, given the way she commented on how he was naive on these things, how she didn't know Ougi had such a relationship to begin with, and the seductive way she whispered into Lelouch's ear, I'm going to venture that she simply formed an obvious conclusion that they probably had an 'intimate' relationship to the dense Lelouch when it comes to these things, and Lelouch was the one who took it from there. Honestly Dann, where do you get some of these ideas, this certainly sounds too elaborate for C.C to have come up with and is more in keeping with Lelouch's mindset then hers, while simply cluing him in on certain facts of life he tends to ignore is :rolleyes:

Also, did anyone else find it hilarious how shocked Lelouch was upon hearing that Ougi had been keeping secrets from him? :heh:

Still, I have to agree, this will probably put a bit of a damper on OugiXVilleta given that she'll think he was the one who squealed about it to him >_>

The Chaos

2008-05-05, 07:51

I Hate Suzaku For Using Nanaully Like This...:frustrated:
I Hope He Die :frustrated:

Serous

2008-05-05, 08:04

Suzaku is so dead if lelouch gets his hands on him.

arkxkra

2008-05-05, 08:23

wow, good episode, a school festival. C.C. come back for the pizza or the doll? and who she cosplaying >.<".

at the end i was shock, Lelouch sister? I think he will pretend dunno his sister since he want to hide his memory.

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 08:28

On a seperate note, I thought Light got what he had coming for becoming so arrogant and convinced of himself being better than everyone else. He lost his way, if he ever had one. Watch someone make a connection between Lelouch and Light because of this comment.Somehow this comment fits Suzaku in Turn5 pretty well. O_O

Had a nice intro with Zino and Anya. Like the former but couldn't really get a feel of the latter. And just to clarify something, is Zino voiced by Hoshi, Kira's VA? :twitch:Yes. Hoshi has a nice range of voice. He doesn't sound like Kira... although he pilots like him. ;p

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-05, 08:32

Just something curious, the box with Nina's "Beard man" hate, would that be reference to the Emperor?

He's about the only person of any note with a (proper) beard I can think of. It could imply that the Emperor came to the school (to rewrite memories? although him leaving the Sword of Akasha is a pretty big ask) or at the least Nina has met him, and wanted to hide something of value from him. :o

Tokkan

2008-05-05, 08:35

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-05, 08:36

Oooh I see. Sneaky sneaky.

-KarumA-

2008-05-05, 08:39

It was actually C.C.'s box, Rivalz just assumed it was Nina's box.

where was it confirmed btw that it was C.C.'s box o.o

Deathkillz

2008-05-05, 08:39

Yea i thought using Nunnally was pretty low, but then again it was the perfect test to see if Lelouch got his memory back. What irritated me was how he doesnt seem to care that he is partly responsible for erasing the memories of the person Lelouch cherishes the most. Plus his grand plan for becoming the Knight of One and taking Area 11 as his territory. I cant begin to go into how flawed that plan is because the Japanese people would never accept him and Suzaku would just have to rule the area with an Iron fist. So my hatred for Suzaku still burns as bright the sun but he was not so annoying this episode.

Viletta is screwed.........AGAIN :p
Lulu is really screwed...he needs to pretend to have forgotten about Nanali or else Suzaku will be unleashing his spinning kicks on his butt again.

But given the situation imagine how hard it would be for Lulu to surpress his anger (and joy of hearing that his sister is safe).

Suzaku is flawed in many ways...irony for someone who is soo perfect.

Viletta is just going to be a pwn all her life :heh:
Somehow this comment fits Suzaku in Turn5 pretty well. O_O

*Nods*

I don't see where the Lulu hate is coming from unfortunatly.

Sinestra

2008-05-05, 08:49

Lulu is really screwed...he needs to pretend to have forgotten about Nanali or else Suzaku will be unleashing his spinning kicks on his butt again.

But given the situation imagine how hard it would be for Lulu to surpress his anger (and joy of hearing that his sister is safe).

Suzaku is flawed in many ways...irony for someone who is soo perfect.

Viletta is just going to be a pwn all her life :heh:

*Nods*

I don't see where the Lulu hate is coming from unfortunatly.

Viletta is in a very tight spot and im not talking about her bathing suit(YUM:love:) i had a small glimmer of hope for her and Ougie since in every episode she recalls the time she spent with him and not with a disgusted look. Her memory might have been lost during that time but feelings dont go away so easily. It obvious there is something still burning a small flame in her heart for him. Though their ending might be tragic or she could just shoot him again.

Im just hoping Lulu figures a way out of this. I think this might be the most difficult position he has ever been in. NunNun is now an enemy his most precious person is now in harms more than ever. Suzaku really just crossed a line he can not return from. Iv accepted the fact that even up till the end i will never like Suzaku even thought this new tactic was pretty damn brilliant. That cold unfeeling face about choosing Japan as his area once he becomes #1 knight made me sick to my stomach. Id rather fight and face death then live under his damn rule.

btw I have been thinking about this. Assuming Lulu never got his memory back how in the hell would Suzaku explain to Nun why her own brother does not know who she is?

Deathkillz

2008-05-05, 08:53

btw I have been thinking about this. Assuming Lulu never got his memory back how in the hell would Suzaku explain to Nun why her own brother does not know who she is?
"Sorry Nanali, but your brother has bumped his head on a marble table and now has amnesia."

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 08:54

Some tidbit about this episode... storyboard leaks, to be exact.

The spoiler weeks ago about "The KMF that helped Zero was Xingke", turned out to be "The KMF that helped Zero was taken care of by Xingke". :heh: I guess the handwritings on storyboards are really hard to read, even for Japanese. (The one who won the auction also said so himself.)

Here's an interesting background setting we didn't get to see on-screen.
http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/007894760.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=7894760&owner=Koshimizu) http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/008271972.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=8271972&owner=Koshimizu)
The words on the storyboard sketch reads "feels like if any thing happens, have Zero escape with C.C."
This turned out to be not a spoken line, but an instruction given to the animators when drawing C.C. in this scene.
So that's why she's standing there. If situation gets out of hand, she's going to grab Lelouch and run. XD

Tokkan

2008-05-05, 08:54

where was it confirmed btw that it was C.C.'s box o.o

It was in the limo after the festival with C.C., Kallen and Xingke. It's opened and Cheese-kun was in it.

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 09:01

where was it confirmed btw that it was C.C.'s box o.o1. Lelouch: What the heck are you doing here!
　C.C.: I must get that back!
2. The box is in Xingke's car (the word length fits, although a little blurred), its lid opened, while C.C. hugs her Cheese-kun in content.
http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/008272849.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=8272849&owner=Koshimizu)

I wonder what Xingke thinks when he saw the two most important members of OotBK... one in an otter suit, and the other in tomato-stained school uniform, hugging a plushie. :p

Ruvixur

2008-05-05, 09:16

1. Lelouch: What the heck are you doing here!
　C.C.: I must get that back!
2. The box is in Xingke's car (the word length fits, although a little blurred), its lid opened, while C.C. hugs her Cheese-kun in content.
http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/008272849.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=8272849&owner=Koshimizu)

I wonder what Xingke thinks when he saw the two most important members of OotBK... one in an otter suit, and the other in tomato-stained school uniform, hugging a plushie. :p

OoTBK. Serious business.

Majek

2008-05-05, 09:37

btw I have been thinking about this. Assuming Lulu never got his memory back how in the hell would Suzaku explain to Nun why her own brother does not know who she is?
He's never get them to talk in that case.

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 09:41

btw I have been thinking about this. Assuming Lulu never got his memory back how in the hell would Suzaku explain to Nun why her own brother does not know who she is?That doesn't matter at all. ;p Since when did he care about how Nunnally feels?

It doesn't matter if Lelouch got his memory back or not, either way, he's not going to admit knowing Nunnally. So Nunnally will feel hurt either way.

If he gives a damn about Nunnally, or bother about giving a good explaination, that phonecall wouldn't have happened.

ForgedGlory

2008-05-05, 09:44

Suzaku makes me sick to my stomach, the writers really know how to make people hate his guts.

ThoHell

2008-05-05, 09:47

That doesn't matter at all. ;p Since when did he care about how Nunnally feels?
It doesn't matter if Lelouch got his memory back or not, either way, he's not going to admit knowing Nunnally.

Because all his main reason for all his actions are for Nunnally, he said so himself long ago. She is the most important thing to him, which was made clear and obvious with Mao's kidnapping. The guy nearly broke down and cried and was in complete torment when he thought something bad was going to happen to her (like his whole world collapsing). He isn't rational/loses himself if her safety was in jeopardy (will do anything for her even give up his own life).

Theron

2008-05-05, 09:48

Wow, if Kallen deduces that Lelouch is... was a prince she wou... will freak out big time.

Another interesting observation: no one cares pretends Lelouch that he doesn't know his sister or not, everybody carers how he will pretend that he doesn’t know his sister and will he be successful at fooling Suzaku with that act. I got everything right, right?

Last_Hope

2008-05-05, 09:49

I don´t have anything intellectual to write and I´m most definitely not contributing to a constructive discussion, but still...

Suzaku is the man! :bow:

It felt really good, I smiled like this --> :D, to see Lelocuh get "pwned" intellectually for once. It would be interesting to see Lelouch against a more thinking enemy than the ones he´s been fighting so far. Apart from Euphemia they´ve all been about brawns rather than brains, giving Lelouch an instant advantage. Personally I think Lelouch deserves this, he´s no saint with a pure heart.

I wonder if Suzaku or the emperor himself is the mastermind behind this plan?

Edit//
If anyone didn´t know, here´s a short clarification. :)

Hell yeah! I´m rooting for Suzaku! Kill that bastard that took Euphie´s life! And doing so in a cynical and calculating way that would be befitting of Zero is definitely that kind of irony that feels good for the one executing it.

(Pink haired princesses for the win!)

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-05, 09:59

Since when did he care about how Nunnally feels?

I dunno, he might care about her after a fashion, after all she's quite safe where she is, only Lulu could be able to mount an attack to get her. He just hates her brother at the moment. So can't be to surprised if some of that rubs off residually.

I'm prolly wording this really baddly, pretty tired atm. But the idea is he doesn't hate her, just her brother, so she's just caught up in everything.

It's Nunally after-all, whats to hate.

Theron

2008-05-05, 10:06

He got "pwned" emotionally, there's a difference. But yeah, Suzaku is the man. Evil, vengeful, coldblooded, heartless bastardish man. It's so cool, isn't it? :D

I hated Euphie though. It's good that Zero got this pathetic lunatic out of her misery.

CeDeR

2008-05-05, 10:16

nice move by suzaku although i dont like him very much.

dom33

2008-05-05, 10:17

Zero could have done a speech, but really what could he have said? How could he explained that he abandoned them? Seeing him make excuses as the leader would destroy his image in my opinion

There can never be too much fan-service :naughty:

he should have said something if you ask me.(I know you didn't BTW)

tell that to people who reviewed revolutionary girl utena and kiddy grade.

It is Suzaku who needs his ego crushed...the backstabbing son of a gun :frustrated:

AGREED!

he does.

but it's so far up his arse, you need diving equipment to see it in that faeces.

since he's full of it.

:p:D

quoted for truth.:D

@Maes Hughes you are as likeable as the anime character you named your username after!(I know, I should have worded that better.)

okay onto my controversial thoughts!

PROS

1.the intereactions between Lelouch and Kallen.

2.characters
A.Kallen: she was clearly potrayed better than most in this episode.
B.Tamaki: I love this guy.
C.Chiba: she's clearly no moron.
D.Arthur: keep biting suzaku!

3.I won 50 bucks for the fith time in the row!

CONS

(for starters this episode felt like getting a tooth pulled out or something equal to it, like watching any episode of peach girl.)(and yes I've been watching too much family guy.)

1.the mechs: the tristan is an ugly transformers reject and modred is TTGL reject.

2.the writing
A.pointless fanservice: seriously is this an attempt to raise the poor ratings? it didn't work work for minami-ke it won't work for code geass.(though I feel the Kallen fanservice was ok.)
B.the big surprises at the end of the episode were already public knowledge smooth Sunrise as Smooth as the comic book villian hellbent on avenging his son but couldn't get his son's name right!
C.nothing really funny about the humour scenes.
D.cliffhanger YAWN.
E. Lelouch blackmailing Viletta and the OoBK scene at the beginning should have been more developed.
F.yaoiservice nuff said.

3.characters
A.Suzaku listen to what this guy (http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/05/04/code-geass-r2-episode-5-knights-of-rounds) has to say about suzaku(below suzaku wanting to be knight of one pic.) since I share the same thoughts.
B.student council: ignoring the no problem with way government is run they don't find it odd that everyone but them and lelouch left?:twitch:
C.Shirley: all I'll say is ughhhhhhh.
D.Rivalz: his character design gets old fast.
E.Milly: dancing with Gino?:twitch:
F.Glaston knights: I still don't know if theese guys are supposed to be a forced to be reckoned with or losers. I don't think sunrise knows either.
G.Gino: three words yaoi, jerkass and moron.(not mention Hoshi...*shudder*)
H. Anya: she disapointted mem.
I.C.C.: wow she did some stupid things in this episode.
J.Rolo: I can stand shoutas but I can't stand yaoi shoutas.
K.Viletta: stoping having romantic thoughts about ougi, you sunk that ship.
L.Li: he's boring again.

boy I'm sure I'll get bad rep for this.

HashiriyaR32

2008-05-05, 10:17

Anyone notice that C.C. head ornament makes her resemble Serio?

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 10:19

Because all his main reason for all his actions are for Nunnally, he said so himself long ago. She is the most important thing to him, which was made clear and obvious with Mao's kidnapping. The guy nearly broke down and cried and was in complete torment when he thought something bad was going to happen to her (like his whole world collapsing). He isn't rational/loses himself if her safety was in jeopardy (will do anything for her even give up his own life).Um... I think it's hard to mistake that Lelouch doesn't care about Nunnally.
I'm talking about Suzaku. = =

Fine. I'll make my post more clear.

Pink-chan

2008-05-05, 10:25

Last_Hope

2008-05-05, 10:33

KrimzonStriker

2008-05-05, 10:37

And I say the moment Lelouch tries something Rolo should stick a knife in his throat instead... >_>

Majek

2008-05-05, 10:40

And I say the moment Lelouch tries something Rolo should stick a knife in his throat instead... >_>
yeah. remove the ">_>" and it the best thing you ever said o.ob damaging his vocal chords would make it even more fun o.ob

Pink-chan

2008-05-05, 10:41

Why will Rollo do that? He should knife Suzaku since he side Lelouch. :D

Unless Rollo is jealous of Nunnally. He overheard the whole conversation. It will be fun :D

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 10:42

I hope Rollo comes in to save Lelouch from this mess. Just calling for Nii-san for some help will do. Disrupt the phone call so Suzaku's plan will be flawed. :D Or use his Geass to stop Suzaku's sense of time to buy time for Lelouch to speak to Nunnally outside his Geass range. I wonder if Rollo's weakness is that it will drain him mentally (fatigue) if he holds his Geass up for too long. Lelouch can be grateful to him in this aspect.If he does that, Lelouch would really start to appreciate him.
Suddenly yell "niiii-saaan!!!" and snap Lelouch out of it. Tell him Millay wants to see him (or something like that) and drag him out of that place. Or freeze Suzaku to buy Lelouch time to calm down.
If he try anything to obvious, he would owe Suzaku a good explanation though. XD
But even if Rolo freezes Suzaku, it's still pretty dangerous to speak to Nunnally on Suzaku's phone. It could be recorded.

However, I wonder if Rolo know about Nunnally. Technically she's not related to his mission. It's possible that they don't give him more infomation than he really needs.
He calls Lelouch "Lelouch Lamperouge" in Turn 4. I wonder if that's a habit or an indication that he's not aware of Lelouch's being a prince.

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-05-05, 10:47

Majek

2008-05-05, 10:49

If Rolo freezes Suzaku he pretty much exposes himself. Or do you think Suzaku doesn't know about him having geass power?

Dann of Thursday

2008-05-05, 10:51

i have to say that this was actully one of the worst episodes so far and I wish I had given a lower rating. Other than the beginning and the end, everything was pretty much pointless and filled with fanservice, especially in regards to Kallen and Viletta. Everything with C.C. was pointless except her talling Lelouch about V.V., the only meanigful scene with Viletta was the one at the end which felt incredibly rushed, The only meaningful scenes Kallen got at all were probably the ones in the beginning, and pretty much everything else was pointless. Even the whole thing with lelouch and Suzaku felt idiotic.

And thinking on this, none of the episodes of R2 so far have been that good. I'm wondering seriously now if this is going to be one of those shows with a strong first act, but pathetic second act.

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 10:55

If Rolo freezes Suzaku he pretty much exposes himself. Or do you think Suzaku doesn't know about him having geass power?Are you paying attention to the show?
People geassed by Rolo aren't aware of it.
Lelouch knows only because he's expecting something like this and is silently counting. If Rolo suddenly geass Lelouch again, he would still not notice.

Majek

2008-05-05, 10:57

People geassed by Rolo aren't aware of it.
Lelouch knows because he's expecting something like this and is silently counting.
You think it wouldn't be strange to him if Lulu was suddenly of the phone already?

ZeroForever

2008-05-05, 10:59

why are there so many 10's..... seriously it was an ok eps as mentioned above if you review what actually happened.

I'm wondering why Villeta hasn't shot shirley yet... i mean getting a hole punched through you which in the end resulted amensia which lead to some happy yet extremely disgracefuly time in your life would be plenty of grounds to pwn her even if it wasn't for her mission.

i mean this eps is no worse/better then the fluff eps in season 1 though, by no means anything amazing.

ThoHell

2008-05-05, 10:59

Wouldn't Rolo freak out in some jealous rage if he saw Nunnally. Since her being there would mean he is no longer Lulu's brother. Although they could go for the big happy family look, but with Lulu planning to discard Rolo like a used rag I'd have some doubts in that dept.

I could see Rolo flipping out and trying to kill Nunnally, or maybe even rescuing her depending which thought process you prefer him to snap to. :D

Or Lulu could say something like: "You have a sister too Rolo, and we need to save her." Just adding onto the family or making Rolo see that he has other family members and saying both are important to him.

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 11:02

Wouldn't Rolo freak out in some jealous rage if he saw Nunnally. Since her being there would mean he is no longer Lulu's brother. Although they could go for the big happy family look, but with Lulu planning to discard Rolo like a used rag I'd have some doubts in that dept.
I could see Rolo flipping out and trying to kill Nunnally, or maybe even rescuing her depending which thought process you prefer him to snap to. :DHe has two good reasons to kill Nunnally for Lelouch. Hopefully Lelouch can stop him before that.
1. If he know Nunnally is Lelouch's sister- fears that Lelouch will desert him, so he secretly kills Nunnally to keep nii-san to himself.
2. If he doesn't know Nunnally is Lelouch's sister- well, since the new governor-general is causing nii-san so much trouble...

Koshimizu

2008-05-05, 11:03

You think it wouldn't be strange to him if Lulu was suddenly of the phone already?You think he would be stupid enough to hang up before freezing stops? = =
By golly of course he will keep talking non-relevent stuff when Suzaku wakes. How hard is that to imagine?

m-san

2008-05-05, 11:06

Great school episode. It's nice to finally give the war storyline a bit of a rest here, even just for now. So finally they introduce the KoR KF. Not sure how to react to them. So the Tristan is some sort of Starscream? Blah.

I really found a bunch of scenes funny:
- "This really isn't my genre" -- a very tired Lelouch, outrun by Suzaku [physical master], Kallen [also a physical master, plus she's in a seemingly heavy costume!], Shirley [swimming club, so she's probably athletic], and even Millay with that funny "CHARGE!" line. I lol'd, literally.
- Tamaki and the Order throwing off their prison uniforms. Tamaki is such a riot.
- Pushing CC into that tomato vat. VERY SMOOTH MOVE LELOUCH! Even CC didn't expect it! lol
- Viletta-sensei promising to kill Shirley 100 times over for making her join that swimming club activity. I swear, I'm into the complex relationship between these two!

Also I'm not a fan of Gino/Zino/whatever. Maybe he'll grow on me like Lloyd did in R1. Anya seems like a boring character. Of course it's probably too early to tell but still...

Can't wait for the next episode!

10/10