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tenken627
2008-06-02, 22:32
well a human/yoma hybrid is a soul link right? Claymores are always talking about keeping their yoma undercontrol, and once they lose the control they turn into AB. Same with Alicia/beth, they got flesh from the same yoma so they can link because of that? So having flesh of 2 different yomas is out of question then, based on this logic anyway?

A human/yoma hybrid is a Claymore, and not a soul link. Using the same yoma material in two different humans would still make it one yoma within each individual human.

Alicia and Beth still have the same genetic makeup as all normal Claymores, 1/2 human (from a single source) + 1/2 yoma (from a single source). Being twins or having the same yoma source may enhance their abilities, but they do not change this overall fact.

I do not see how the logic of using the flesh of 2 different yomas in one host follow anything close to using 1 flesh in two different hosts.

Enara
2008-06-02, 22:36
As I was in the hospital waiting room. I fired up my computer one last time to see if I could find any hint of chapter 80. Sadly I found nothing.

I did how ever find some thing interesting about claymore sword swings per minute.



A average claymore (#20 to #29) can swing there sword 80 per minute

A above Average claymore ( 19 to 12 ) can swing there sword 90 to 120 time per minute

most single digits are about 120 to 150 per minute

A claymore who could do quick sword for a minute and stay at full speed could reach about 800 swings per minute




fake or true?

Cyclone
2008-06-02, 22:36
:sad:
*refresh*

Pleasant dreams Enara

Zsych
2008-06-02, 23:54
You know, at this point we should really be wondering if the Claymores have youma parts in them at all. Maybe they are the results of the same technology, but inserting youma parts into a human doesn't seem like something that should work well, especiall across the entire body.. and with the bio-engineering level of the Org(that can conceivably make youma), it seems kinda primitive.

myshka
2008-06-03, 01:18
Here's a late night theory! The organization puts yoma guts into humans to create claymores. That's why yoma always eat human guts: they are stocking up in case they need to "donate" a few feet for the organization's needs!!!

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 02:28
Or youma need something from humans that they cannot create themselves. Sort of like vampires. It seems like nutrition is not so much the issue for youma. Even AB's will not eat a claymore because they taste aweful and reek of youki. They leave most of the human intact besides their guts. Priscilla ate a ton. I wonder if it was because she was so powerful.

Claymores do not have to eat much at all. But when they lose their human heart suddenly they have to eat like crazy. Maybe AB's are consuming life energy from others that they no longer have after their human heart is gone (silly I know). I wonder if yoma even need to eat humans for actual survival. The Yoma in Rabona ate a lot because it transformed so often, almost as if eating guts powers his youki.

I still think that Claymores are made from yoma. The yoma themselves I see as just a stepping stone to make claymores; weak on their own but when combined with other material (like a human heart) they become extremely powerful. Also I would not be surprised if yoma once were humans.

racjona
2008-06-03, 07:41
my sweeeet little chapter #80 - where are you, we miss you sooooo much - come to mummy =]

Ryuken
2008-06-03, 07:53
my sweeeet little chapter #80 - where are you, we miss you sooooo much - come to mummy =]

That reminded me of Miata.:)

Mandrake
2008-06-03, 09:01
damnit, wheres my chapter 80 fix...very soon ill go into withdrawel

tunjee01
2008-06-03, 09:17
Yes I'll get chapter 80 soon since my time machine is almost complete.

Jonova
2008-06-03, 09:30
here's some more teaser for you all heroni, I mean Claymore addicits
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/jk.jpg

The title of the new chapter is 《七年の星霜》, 七年 = seven years, 星霜 = star frost literally but usually used to describe time passing by. For example, if you read/heard about Rurouni Kenshin series, the very last OVA that ends the series(where Kenshin dies) was named 星霜編.

Goofus Maximus
2008-06-03, 10:34
Yes I'll get chapter 80 soon since my time machine is almost complete.

The newspaper here just had an article stating that a certain couple just got married on Jun 14th, 2008, so I think you must have finished your time machine!!!

mosmos
2008-06-03, 10:52
Thank you Jonova but not enough... we want more....

When the F is Chap 80 going to come out ? ..... Help me ....... i am losing my patience....

Anima
2008-06-03, 11:13
Jonova, that's a very good way to spoil the hell out of Rurouni Kenshin for anyone who wants to read it :heh:

Jonova
2008-06-03, 11:55
Jonova, that's a very good way to spoil the hell out of Rurouni Kenshin for anyone who wants to read it :heh:

Sorry about that lol.

To make up for that, I present the June superstar of Claymore fresh out of tsstory scan!


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/back_raki_scene080.jpg

paula_mink
2008-06-03, 12:12
Wowww!
Is it Raki?! He looks sooo powerful and self confident!
Let see what he can show us!

thank you Jonova!!!

Ancient Soul
2008-06-03, 12:13
About Raki.

If youma flesh is not poison for a human then maybe Isley feed Raki all this years with genetical modified meat and steroids (aka Youma flesh + yoki).Right now Raki should be able to kill a youma and very weak AB with little problems.One drawbreak : Raki may have become a youma flesh addict (the perfect modivation for a youma hunter : hunger).Also yoki sensing could have been a side-effect of eating youmas.

I mean if youmas feed on humans i don't see why humans can't eat youmas
(a few crazy ones may try - people who eat "vampires" hearts (now/past) in the real world came to mind).

Still hope that the ORG will bring they own ghosts in the game.I mean a new fight between claymores will be eyecandy (especially if they are all supressed).Audrey and Rachel are just no match for the ghosts right now.

tunjee01
2008-06-03, 12:13
Jonova, Is this real? Pls dont tell me that is raki.

MC2
2008-06-03, 12:17
WTG Jonova.

I have no way of connecting his appearence 7 years ago and now.

Pardon my bad mandarin by rough translations here.

Haven't had the reminiscence of passing here for a long time. It's still as noisy/bustling as before.
But it seems that Claire isn't here.

The fine text at the bottom left says: XX (can't read the first word) little boy has grown into a brave warrior!

racjona
2008-06-03, 12:27
Sorry about that lol.

To make up for that, I present the June superstar of Claymore fresh out of tsstory scan!


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/back_raki_scene080.jpg


o christ! I new it, I new it! Claymore is a comedy hahahahahahahahaha ROTFL
I can't make it - I'm gonna explode <hahahhahahahahahahahaha>

Jonova
2008-06-03, 12:28
About Raki.

If youma flesh is not poison for a human then maybe Isley feed Raki all this years with genetical modified meat and steroids (aka Youma flesh + yoki).


Geneticallu modified food lol, for some strange reason that remains me of KFC xD.

Right now Raki should be able to kill a youma and very weak AB with little problems.
Also yoki sensing could have been a side-effect of eating youmas.



He already did dispatch one yoma with relative little effort in this chapter, although he had to rely on the little girl who was travelling with him to find out who was the yoma. (thus still no yoki sensing.)

pic: Raki with little girl on his shoulder
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/Rakiloli.jpg

Jonova, Is this real? Pls dont tell me that is raki.

Sadly but it is true, that is Raki as far as I can tell after reading the new chapter.

myshka
2008-06-03, 12:33
omg girl fanservice!! raki is so hot!!

Man how does he manage that huge sword?? Such a show off!!

It is definitely Raki, you can see the scar on his left eyebrow.

Guido
2008-06-03, 12:35
Then does this means....

no more whining, no more crying, and most importantly no more Big, Raki hugs?:twitch::eyespin:

Mandrake
2008-06-03, 12:41
That looks like the old uniform of Eisley. Look at the pauldrons, thats like the same design Rafaella was wearing ..the oldest seen claymore, untill some generations later they become One big piece with a smaller one. Also the bracers are the same...same pieces of armour all together, but slightly different design. Me definatly thinks its his old uniform.

Enara
2008-06-03, 12:42
Enara is happy there is now a cute guy is Claymore the as far a we know dose in eat people.

I didn't just say that

Negativedark
2008-06-03, 12:43
Damn. I wonder how tall he is? I'd like to get a guesstamate on the mystery girls age. Heh, I wonder... You know this might actually be part of a subtle plan by Isley to destroy the Organization. He can cripple their finacing if he provides a more tolerable means of Yoma eradication.

Yorae_paladin1
2008-06-03, 12:48
That's raki damn he changed a lot.

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 12:54
His left hand is *huge*. The whole left arm seemed off to me, like it was too long or something, but eventually I realized it was mainly just his hand. Just an oddity of the drawing, or can we construct an entire new conspiracy theory around Raki's left hand?

nihil
2008-06-03, 12:57
So does this mean raki...is a claymore or just a strong human? I can not remember whether his hair/eyes were always shaded like that.

Ancient Soul
2008-06-03, 13:03
Wait a second.If Raki killed with ease a youma but he don't have yoki sensing...he seem more like a MiB like now (his sword is huge so at last he is stronger than a normal human - same with the MiBs)(anything about is hair and eyes?).If they are not silver he seem more and more like a MiB.

About the hand.Maybe Isley give his left hand.
But more important : who is the little girl?Priscilla?Only if she killed Isley.
She seem so small.

Mandrake
2008-06-03, 13:03
I think he's just like a guy who's been training swordsmanship from one of the best on the continent for 7 years :p

racjona
2008-06-03, 13:04
hmmm so does it mean, that Raki is a soldier on the other land?
He's still human - that little person showed him yoma - he couldn't sense it. He's got kind of new outfit - maybe used on the other land in fight with DoDs?
But he looks like a girl :P with this lovely face and strange haircut =]

tenken627
2008-06-03, 13:12
I'll bet it will hurt a lot more now when Raki kicks Cid in the crotch.

Newhope
2008-06-03, 13:14
I don't think he's a claymore it says he needed the girl to find the youma,he can't be a MiB either from the last chapter it seems there a total different race to humans.

The girls a bit on the small side to be Prisclla.

zato_1one
2008-06-03, 13:17
His left hand is *huge*. The whole left arm seemed off to me, like it was too long or something, but eventually I realized it was mainly just his hand. Just an oddity of the drawing, or can we construct an entire new conspiracy theory around Raki's left hand?

I think that is just not a good draw of perspective view. <_<

Jonova
2008-06-03, 13:19
hmmm so does it mean, that Raki is a soldier on the other land?
He's still human - that little person showed him yoma - he couldn't sense it. He's got kind of new outfit - maybe used on the other land in fight with DoDs?



When Miria continued her theroy/story at the beginning of the chapter, there was a page shown the early male claymore who were sent to fight DoDs as soilders, and their outfit didn't look like Raki's at all. It seems after all the claymores soilders awakened andlost control theyjust stayed there to fight DoDs untill both of them were wiped out.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 13:24
Hahaha, I knew it, Helen gets drunk!

And her drunk face cracks me up!

And Raki is pretty damn fast if he's just a normal human.

I can't read chinese though.

racjona
2008-06-03, 13:30
Hahaha, I knew it, Helen gets drunk!

And her drunk face cracks me up!

And Raki is pretty damn fast if he's just a normal human.

I can't read chinese though.


Thanks Jonova for explanation - now I see it.
Yeah - Helen rocks :D :D :D

tenken627
2008-06-03, 13:33
Jonova, can u translate one small part for me please?

Edit: Nevermind, I'm retarded :bash:

The scene where Miria and the Rabona church leader (Father Vincent?) are making a deal. Could you explain to me what that deal is?

Edit: Actually nm, I just looked and there seems to be no words in that scene

Jonova
2008-06-03, 13:47
Jonova, can u translate one small part for me please?

Edit: Nevermind, I'm retarded :bash:

The scene where Miria and the Rabona church leader (Father Vincent?) are making a deal. Could you explain to me what that deal is?

Edit: Actually nm, I just looked and there seems to be no words in that scene

hehe no need to be harsh on yourself there ;)


Yes there was no words in those panels, but on the page before Miria asked Galatea to stay in Rabona and protect Clarice and Miata from the org, which Galatea agreed. So I suppose that was atleast part of the deal.

Newhope
2008-06-03, 13:52
Hahaha, I knew it, Helen gets drunk!

And her drunk face cracks me up!

And Raki is pretty damn fast if he's just a normal human.

I can't read chinese though.

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that with Deneve putting on her serious face on when she starts hugging her.

King Lycan
2008-06-03, 14:02
Sorry about that lol.

To make up for that, I present the June superstar of Claymore fresh out of tsstory scan!


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/back_raki_scene080.jpg


OMFG.Teh teh annoying raki!!!!!!.I was so excited when i say raki i don't know why i just was :twitch:.....
He looks like ishely :uhoh:

Ryuken
2008-06-03, 14:05
Sorry about that lol.

To make up for that, I present the June superstar of Claymore fresh out of tsstory scan!


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/back_raki_scene080.jpg


@Hell! where are you? I told you that one of these days that boy is going to get his way. Now he has. (and what a dreamboat he has become. A true hunkasaurus.):heh:

tenken627
2008-06-03, 14:07
hehe no need to be harsh on yourself there ;)


Yes there was no words in those panels, but on the page before Miria asked Galatea to stay in Rabona and protect Clarice and Miata from the org, which Galatea agreed. So I suppose that was atleast part of the deal.


So, the Ghost 7 will remain the Ghost 7, but they have allies in Galatea, Clarice, and Miata and the city of Rabona.

Miria could be telling Father Vincent everything she knows about the Organization. While the Church of Rabona and the Organization are not outright hostile, the Church probably does not care much for the Organization. If the Church and the people of Rabona know about the Organization's past and doings, they probably will be set against them.

Rabona could serve as a base of operations for the Ghosts, with Galatea taking care of things in the city.

Actually, they are no longer Ghosts. The Organization should be aware of the Ghosts now if they haven't already after Agatha's attack. The MiBs might demand Rabona to give up the rebel Claymores.

Newhope
2008-06-03, 14:08
Raki's armor maybe Easley old claymore armor, the way he defended that yoma's attack would have punched straight though normal armor,Galk defend the same way and it went though his armor like paper.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 14:12
Raki's armor maybe Easley old claymore armor, the way he defended that yoma's attack would have punched straight though normal armor,Galk defend the same way and it went though his armor like paper.


I was thinking the same thing. I'm not sure where that armor came from. It's strong enough to withstand a yoma attack, which we've seen penetrate almost everything.

The material in the armor might be the same as a Claymore sword. If the armor is indeed Isley's old Claymore warrior for when he fought against DoD's long ago, the armor might be made from the similar stuff as the sword.

Or Raki might have been on the other continent himself and got the armor.

Also, this shows that Isley does know about the other continent. Male Claymores were sent there to fight. We're still not sure if Riful knows, because the MiBs might have stopped sending Claymores to fight on the front lines before they started using female Claymores.

Edit: Actually, Riful should know as well because Duph would have also been on the front lines or know Claymores that were sent.

Ryuken
2008-06-03, 14:14
Hmmmm! I'm thinking about the fav character polls now. :heh:

Jonova
2008-06-03, 14:15
So, the Ghost 7 will remain the Ghost 7, but they have allies in Galatea, Clarice, and Miata and the city of Rabona.

Miria could be telling Father Vincent everything she knows about the Organization. While the Church of Rabona and the Organization are not outright hostile, the Church probably does not care much for the Organization. If the Church and the people of Rabona know about the Organization's past and doings, they probably will be set against them.

Rabona could serve as a base of operations for the Ghosts, with Galatea taking care of things in the city.

Actually, they are no longer Ghosts. The Organization should be aware of the Ghosts now if they haven't already after Agatha's attack. The MiBs might demand Rabona to give up the rebel Claymores.

that's definitely possible, but in last chapter I remember Miria said something like "if the org wanted they could have destoryed the whole city" so I doubt the Church will have much power against the org if they are to confront directly.

MC2
2008-06-03, 14:16
This section seems less wordy than the first half so I'll attempt to do a quick translation before bed.


Pg. 23: Hey hey! You, that traveller.
Pg. 24: If you value your life, it's best not to go to the city ahead.
What... is in there?
It's yoma. Yoma. Yoma has appeared in the city.
Damn. This is just like 7 years ago. Shit.
Yoma...
Pg. 25: Shit! That bastard stole my cart and fled yesterday.
It's not enough to leave the village. (i'm not so sure about this one)
We have to enlist the help of Claymores with the village funds. Huh?
We did the same thing 7 years ago. How many Yomas must be killed.
That hurts. Don't ask me.
Pg. 26: (No idea what the words in the big frame means) But it aludes to the place
Ah?
Who are you?
This is not a situation where outsiders should come in. Go away.
Pg. 27: Do you know who it is?
Oh? What is it? What?
Good. I know what to do.
Come down and stay here for a while. It will be over soon.
Hey you, did you not hear what we said?
Pg. 30: Let's try this out.
Pg. 33: What... Claymore?
Pg. 35: Gah.
Got cut. He got cut. What? Bastard.
Pg. 37: What?
Pg. 38: Groaning.
Pg. 39: What is it, this person is like a Claymore.
Escape...
Is not possible!?
Pg. 40: Ma.. a Male...?
It's not possible. Only Claymore can defeat Yoma.
Pg. 41: Haven't had the reminiscence of passing here for a long time.
It's still as noisy/bustling as before.
But it seems that it isn't here.

The fine text at the bottom left says: XX (can't read the first word) little boy has grown into a brave warrior!

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 14:23
Haha, enter Guts Raki as people have been posting about forever. He even has the sword to match and his berserker armor...

I am glad that Isley knows all about the other continent. His plans probably have something to do with that as well. And as always I am mad that the chinese raws are out first and that I can't find them or read them...

tenken627
2008-06-03, 14:24
This section seems less wordy than the first half so I'll attempt to do a quick translation before bed.


Pg. 23: Hey hey! You, that traveller.
Pg. 24: If you value your life, it's better not to go to the city ahead.
What... is in there?
It's yoma. Yoma. Yoma has appeared in the city.
Damn. This is just like 7 years ago. Shit.
Yoma...
Pg. 25: Shit! That bastard stole my cart and fled yesterday.
It's not enough to leave the village. (i'm not so sure about this one)
We have to enlist the help of Claymores with the village funds. Huh?
We did the same thing 7 years ago. How many Yomas must be kill.
It hurts. Don't ask me.
Pg. 26: (No idea what the words in the big frame means) But it aludes to the place
Ah?
Who are you?
This is not a situation where outsiders should come in. Go away.
Pg. 27: Do you know who it is?
Oh? What is it? What?
Good. I know what to do.
Come down and stay here for a while. It will be over soon.
Hey you, did you not hear what we said?
Pg. 30: Let's try this out.
Pg. 33: What... Claymore?
Pg. 35: Gah.
Got cut. He got cut. What? Bastard.
Pg. 37: What?
Pg. 38: Groaning.
Pg. 39: What is it, this person is like a Claymore.
Escape...
Is not possible!?
Pg. 40: Ma.. a Male...?
It's not possible. Only Claymore can defeat Yoma.
Pg. 41: Haven't had the reminiscence of passing here for a long time.
It's still as noisy/bustling as before.
But it seems that Claire isn't here.

The fine text at the bottom left says: XX (can't read the first word) little boy has grown into a brave warrior!


Thank you, that whole scene makes sense.

that's definitely possible, but in last chapter I remember Miria said something like "if the org wanted they could have destoryed the whole city" so I doubt the Church will have much power against the org if they are to confront directly.

True. But, I'm trying to think of what could be the deal. It could be just Miria pledging to help defend Rabona in case of attack for letting Galatea, Clarice, and Miata stay? The scene is short, but the meeting is probably long. They have probably been talking the whole time while the others get drunk. And it's just Miria, Cynthia and one other Claymore (Tabitha?) in the meeting?

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 14:32
You know what would be fantastic if it were animated? The rest of Claymore. The stuff after Pieta is so awesome. So many more awakened forms and awesome fights happening... Oh well.

Jonova
2008-06-03, 14:37
True. But, I'm trying to think of what could be the deal. It could be just Miria pledging to help defend Rabona in case of attack for letting Galatea, Clarice, and Miata stay? The scene is short, but the meeting is probably long. They have probably been talking the whole time while the others get drunk. And it's just Miria, Cynthia and one other Claymore (Tabitha?) in the meeting?


It is definitely Tabitha, you can tell that from her pantus at page 10. I am kinda curious why did Miria just make plans for Clarice and Miata without even asking them anything >_>. Maybe they would still like to go back to the org? (although not likely) Miria just assumed they will follow her plan, I guess that's why she is the leader :eyespin:

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 14:45
I love that the male AB's were supposed to awaken to battle the DoDs. They followed orders and everything, although why wouldn't they if there were enemies to eat. Can you imagine Isley on the front lines fighting ... well, anything? The guy turned the landscape of his most recent battle ground into a barren waste land. Or Rigald, can you see him fighting humans and giant monsters and having difficulty?

And Cid's dream has finally come true... 10 Claymores for him to work his magic on. Although with Raki now he certainly has competition.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 14:47
It is definitely Tabitha, you can tell that from her pantus at page 10. I am kinda curious why did Miria just make plans for Clarice and Miata without even asking them anything >_>. Maybe they would still like to go back to the org? (although not likely) Miria just assumed they will follow her plan, I guess that's why she is the leader :eyespin:


Well, I guess it's a given no matter what. Probably should not even be questioned. It's not like Tabitha will ever leave Miria's side. :heh:

Awakened
2008-06-03, 15:37
I think the girl with Raki is Priscilla and Isley child. There is no reason for Raki to lie to a stranger about his dauther, especialy if she is right there with him.

The girl can sence yomas, she must have yoma flesh in her. Priscilla sent her dauther with Raki to make sure she can track him down when she needs someone to hug.

Lol, now to see Clare, Priscilla dauther and Raki going on a picnick.

Raki has Isley old sword and uniform. I wanted to see more of the epic battle, only 2 pages.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 15:40
I think the girl with Raki is Priscilla and Isley child. There is no reason for Raki to lie to a stranger about his dauther, especialy if she is right there with him.

The girl can sence yomas, she must have yoma flesh in her. Priscilla sent her dauther with Raki to make sure she can track him down when she needs someone to hug.

Lol, now to see Clare, Priscilla dauther and Raki going on a picnick.

while possible wasn't it said half yoma couldn't have children? Awakened beings might be the same. Besides Prisicilla is more likely to have a daughter with Raki (always in the same bed) than Isley

Jonova
2008-06-03, 15:43
I think the girl with Raki is Priscilla and Isley child. There is no reason for Raki to lie to a stranger about his dauther, especialy if she is right there with him.



I think that might be exactly the reason why he lied, because he was looking for Clare carrying child of him and some one else.
If he told the truth Cid might yell at him :"Wtf, you already got a kid and wife? why are you still looking for Clare? Leave her to me you jerk!"

Awakened
2008-06-03, 15:54
I think that might be exactly the reason why he lied, because he was looking for Clare carrying child of him and some one else.
If he told the truth Cid might yell at him :"Wtf, you already got a kid and wife? why are you still looking for Clare? Leave her to me you jerk!"


lol, If he is with Priscilla why will he leave her and go looking for Clare? Thats just to much drama for one man. Maby he just want to repay Clare, but Priscilla is his true love.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 15:59
Raki has Isley old sword and uniform. I wanted to see more of the epic battle, only 2 pages.

I don't think Raki has Isley's old sword. It looks nothing like a Claymore's sword except for how big it is. Even the male Claymore in the beginning had a Claymore sword, so those swords were used since the beginning.

The armor also looks different, but armor is more likely to be different from person to person unlike the Claymore sword.

The armor did withstand a yoma attack easily, so it's probably made from the same material as a Claymore sword. And I bet Raki's sword is also made from the same material, even though it is different.

ox2
2008-06-03, 16:00
o christ! I new it, I new it! Claymore is a comedy hahahahahahahahaha ROTFL
I can't make it - I'm gonna explode <hahahhahahahahahahahaha>

Its funny that he ended up looking like Isley with a scar minus the long hair...but he doesn't look completely useless anymore which is a good thing. But I have to be honest with myself. I was kinda banking on him getting molested then eaten by Priscilla though :rolleyes:

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 16:03
while possible wasn't it said half yoma couldn't have children?

The only time that that is ever implied (as far as I can recall) is at the Slashers arc where Helen meets Clare and Raki. All Helen says is, "He can't be yours." (implying that Raki couldn't be Clare's child). There are at least four ways to interpret that:

1) Claymores can't bear children (the general assumption).
2) Clare is too young to have a child Raki's age. Due to their non-aging nature, there's no apparent way to say that Clare is old enough or not, so I would discount this one.
3) Claymores are forbidden from having children by the Org for whatever reason (including interpretation #4).
4) 9 months of pregnancy would be fatally impractical for someone who's regularly in combat.


As such, we can't say for certain whether a Claymore (or AB for that matter) could have a child or not, only what each individual personally thinks to be the case (similar to the issues with Irene and Luciella, though I think the probability of a Claymore having a child is higher than the chances of either of those two being alive). Up until now it hasn't been a very important issue, but it looks like we'll have another imponderable to consider this month.

Awakened
2008-06-03, 16:05
while possible wasn't it said half yoma couldn't have children? Awakened beings might be the same. Besides Prisicilla is more likely to have a daughter with Raki (always in the same bed) than Isley

Defensive Claymore just need to remember the body part they want to regenerate, acording to Galatia. Priscilla eat lots of women, and sure she can regenerat that part of her if she realy wanted to have a chiled

I don't think Raki has Isley's old sword. It looks nothing like a Claymore's sword except for how big it is. Even the male Claymore in the beginning had a Claymore sword, so those swords were used since the beginning.

The armor also looks different, but armor is more likely to be different from person to person unlike the Claymore sword.

The armor did withstand a yoma attack easily, so it's probably made from the same material as a Claymore sword. And I bet Raki's sword is also made from the same material, even though it is different.

The uniform and sword am talking about is from the first page of chap 80, it looks like the Claymore swords were not the same as they are now.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 16:07
The uniform and sword am talking about is from the first page of chap 80, it looks like the Claymore swords were not the same as they are now.

Isn't the sword from the first page of Chapter 80 the same sword that all Claymores use now? They look exactly the same.

Awakened
2008-06-03, 16:09
Isn't the sword from the first page of Chapter 80 the same sword that all Claymores use now? They look exactly the same.

I looked at it again and you are right.

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 16:10
Oh, and I suppose we now have conclusive proof that Claymores can get drunk. In fact Helen appears to be well on her way to "wasted".

Anima
2008-06-03, 16:10
PEOPLE STOP POSTING IN SPOILER TAGS!
God damn it! It's the OFFICIAL SPOILER thread for chapter 80!! :\

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 16:11
Guys, you don't need to use spoiler tags for this thread :D. Well you can if you want to I guess. It is just a lot of clicking for very very little text. I agree with Anima.

Where is Raki's holy sword from Rabona? Does he use it as a dagger now? Next step is to see a pink haired girl on his shoulder giving him directions. I did not think Raki would appear so quickly but I am glad he did. Looks like he is going to have his fare share of fighting from here on out. Now I imagine he has the same voice as Alucard or the Count from Gankatsuou. If the little girl is Priscilla Raki sure got tall. Although from what I have read from peoples translations I think it might be a new character. Of course yagi had to put a cloak over her (assume its a girl) so we have to wait to see who it is. If it is Priscilla and Isley's baby I will flip out. I am kind of hoping it is just Priscilla but... just have to wait I guess.

From the flashback to the AB vs DoD it seems Isley would know all about the organizations secrets and the like. I wonder what he is planning for it now and what he has told Raki. How much would you all freak out if Raki had a little Teresa on his shoulder!?!

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 16:12
I figured the spoiler tags held until an English translation showed up. Meh.

Yorae_paladin1
2008-06-03, 16:16
Guys, you don't need to use spoiler tags for this thread :D. Well you can if you want to I guess. It is just a lot of clicking for very very little text. I agree with Anima.

Where is Raki's holy sword from Rabona? Does he use it as a dagger now? Next step is to see a pink haired girl on his shoulder giving him directions. I did not think Raki would appear so quickly but I am glad he did. Looks like he is going to have his fare share of fighting from here on out. Now I imagine he has the same voice as Alucard or the Count from Gankatsuou. If the little girl is Priscilla Raki sure got tall. Although from what I have read from peoples translations I think it might be a new character. Of course yagi had to put a cloak over her (assume its a girl) so we have to wait to see who it is. If it is Priscilla and Isley's baby I will flip out. I am kind of hoping it is just Priscilla but... just have to wait I guess.

From the flashback to the AB vs DoD it seems Isley would know all about the organizations secrets and the like. I wonder what he is planning for it now and what he has told Raki. How much would you all freak out if Raki had a little Teresa on his shoulder!?!

I doubt its priscilla and Iselys baby first it doesn't seem priscilla has feelings like those for isley he is more friend if its anyone it has to be rakis 7 years with priscilla that could get boys hormones flowing hey clare was not there for 7 years and Raki is no priest. Cause if it is there child Isley/priscilla wouldn't Dauf and riful be pumping out kids by now I do not think half breeds are reproduction capable.

Awakened
2008-06-03, 16:17
If Raki uniform and sword are new, then Isley must know how to make them, or they have been taking trips to the main land.

Its sad that the Claymores did not get the armor that Raki has. The Org realy wants them to die.

I doubt its priscilla and Iselys baby first it doesn't seem priscilla has feelings like those for isley he is more friend if its anyone it has to be rakis 7 years with priscilla that could get boys hormones flowing hey clare was not there for 7 years and Raki is no priest. Cause if it is there child Isley/priscilla wouldn't Dauf and riful be pumping out kids by now I do not think half breeds are reproduction capable.

Maby Riful does not want to have Dauf babies.:D

If Claymores can regenerate body parts, guts and all, why can't day fix thier reproductive system if they want to have babies?

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 16:20
I doubt its priscilla and Iselys baby first it doesn't seem priscilla has feelings like those for isley he is more friend if its anyone it has to be rakis 7 years with priscilla that could get boys hormones flowing hey clare was not there for 7 years and Raki is no priest. Cause if it is there child Isley/priscilla wouldn't Dauf and riful be pumping out kids by now I do not think half breeds are reproduction capable.

keep in mind Riful's awakened form and its impossible for them to have children, the babies would fall out or something while she's pregnant

Anima
2008-06-03, 16:21
Looks like a good chapter.. need the full translations now.

I really doubt that this little girl is Priscilla because she is just too small to be Priscilla unless Raki turned into a giant guy somehow.

Raki turned into a badass warrior tho. Isley made a good warrior out of him apparently. Good stuff.

I am also amazed that Claymores can get drunk. Helen is just fun :D

MalakTawus
2008-06-03, 16:35
We can't know who is the little girl,but surely she can't be Raki's daughter.He loves Claire and after 7 years he continues to look for her....and for those that played "Valkyrie profile Lenneth",don't you think he is very similar with Lucian?They must be twins!!!

My guess is that the little one is Prisc-Isley daught or a new character(Luna?......quite impossible,but....).
But thinking better.....if she is Prisc's daugh,this means that Raki knows who Isley and Prisc really are,and knowing what they have done it's impossible for him to stay with them(if he know who they are it's a given that it's just a matter of time before he knows the truth behind Pieta's attack,especially because he can go around freely)......very strange.....
Hey!She could be Riful!!!!She likes to stay on the shoulders and she could be in a smaller version simply to fit better in that position!!!Ok,I bet on Riful!!!(I know i'm wrong,but i'd love if it turns to be real.....hehehehe)

Jonova
2008-06-03, 16:36
keep in mind Riful's awakened form and its impossible for them to have children, the babies would fall out or something while she's pregnant

LOL!
I think it is possible for that girl (gender confirmed by cid during the chapter) to be Prscilla's child (either with Raki or Isley). But what really puzzles me is if the girl is indeed Raki's daughter, why would Prscilla let her husband wondering around looking for his first love with their daughter for such a long period of time? (Cid mentioned Raki arrived at Robona about an year ago looking for Clare, so he should be wondering for longer than that.) Or if that girl is Isley&Prscilla's child, then why would they let some random guy taking their child wondering around?

Yorae_paladin1
2008-06-03, 16:41
keep in mind Riful's awakened form and its impossible for them to have children, the babies would fall out or something while she's pregnant

Oh so Isley's awakend form with priscilla is better very disgusting scene I see there. And as i stated It isn't isley who gets priscilla crawling up on his bed.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 16:42
Oh so Isley's awakend form with priscilla is better very disgusting scene I see there. And as i stated It isn't isley who gets priscilla crawling up on his bed.

umm u do realize the difference, Riful splits herself up into countless ribons, if she was pregnant obviously that act would kill the child.

Both Isley + Priscilla use a constant form that doesn't split themselves up and obviously they would be having sex while in human form, not awakened

Yorae_paladin1
2008-06-03, 16:43
True but still like I said it isn't Isley who gets Priscilla crawling up on his bed

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 16:44
True but still like I said it isn't Isley who gets Priscilla crawling up on his bed

i honestly believe its Raki and Priscilla's child, so i agree with you there

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 16:45
Sorry about that lol.

To make up for that, I present the June superstar of Claymore fresh out of tsstory scan!


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/back_raki_scene080.jpg


is. this. really. raki?? woo~w :love: he seems so strong & confident in himself and everyone around him kinda in 'aww.'

he looks like a real male claymore and I am now offically jealous of clare. :mad:

Yorae_paladin1
2008-06-03, 16:47
is. this. really. raki?? woo~w :love: he seems so strong & confident in himself and everyone around him kinda in 'aww.'

he looks like a real male claymore and I am now offically jealous of clare. :mad:

Clare will probably strangle Raki if that girl happens to be his and Prsicillas child

Awakened
2008-06-03, 16:47
If Riful had a Child she can keep her baby protected at all time.

Talking about Riful, will she want a baby know that Priscilla has one (probably has one)?

Vinak
2008-06-03, 16:49
since Raki is the current topic.

I am wondering if their is any deeper meaning to what Raki says about Isley in chapter 61 page 18.


(geez i think 5 posts went through while i was typing this XD)

hell88
2008-06-03, 16:49
I really don't like Raki right now. LOL Now he'll be able to get any claymore woman he wants.

Anima
2008-06-03, 16:49
I think it is possible for that girl (gender confirmed by cid during the chapter) to be Prscilla's child (either with Raki or Isley). But what really puzzles me is if the girl is indeed Raki's daughter, why would Prscilla let her husband wondering around looking for his first love with their daughter for such a long period of time? (Cid mentioned Raki arrived at Robona about an year ago looking for Clare, so he should be wondering for longer than that.) Or if that girl is Isley&Prscilla's child, then why would they let some random guy taking their child wondering around?
If Claymores/ABs could breed then this is another kick in the nuts by Yagi. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to find Helen pregnant after they leave Rabona.:heh:
I could see this child being Priscilla's and Raki's. Raki was a teenager who would very easily get horny some night and forget who Clare is + Priscilla is cute....... What did I just say?! God I am starting to get lenient about this girl! :uhoh:
She is as cute as a snake! :D

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 16:50
If Riful had a Child she can keep her baby protected at all time.

Talking about Riful, will she want a baby know that Priscilla has one (probably has one)?

well homegrown "allies" would be a better idea for her i guess, she's not having much luck gaining them

Torri_fay_torren@hot
2008-06-03, 16:50
I saw the picture and I still think how do we know that that's not Pirssy? I admte that she did look very small but the entire picture looked to be having proportian issues. Did you see Raki's hands? And Priscilla wasn't very big to begain with. Besides Miata I would say that she was the smallest.

Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?

Anima
2008-06-03, 16:52
well homegrown "allies" would be a better idea for her i guess, she's not having much luck gaining them
Nah... Unless they are born awakened. I don't see her torturing her kids to awaken them. Just too brute even for Riful plus who would be the father? She obviously keeping Dauf because he is a stupid tough bastard and not because she loves him.

Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?
Yep, only you! :heh:

servidor
2008-06-03, 16:54
Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?

I think that Raki was made into another bishounen to make more girls to read SQ Jump.

Vinak
2008-06-03, 16:54
I saw the picture and I still think how do we know that that's not Pirssy? I admte that she did look very small but the entire picture looked to be having proportian issues. Did you see Raki's hands? And Priscilla wasn't very big to begain with. Besides Miata I would say that she was the smallest.

Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?


Yeah Raki looks a little too feminine. and unless Priscilla shrank in those 7 years, I have no idea who it could be other than his child.

Ancient Soul
2008-06-03, 16:54
A chance that the girl is just a normal claymore and Raki is in fact a MiB (at least in in body structure) now.If Raki left say 1,5 year ago from Isley and Rubel (who know about him) somehow wait for him and make a deal with him is enough time for him to become
like that.That also could explain his armour (Rubel give to him).If Raki will be a MiB within
The ORG and fight for them will Clare fight with him?

Somehow i fail to see how Isley :
-kept his armour for 100 years (or make a new one) and give her to Raki;
-found (keep\make) a sword to give Raki (i don't now if there is a sign on her);
-transform Raki into something like a MiB (strong but no yoki sensing)
(if Raki is no longer a human);
-he and Priscilla give birth to a girl and send her with Raki (if that little girl is theirs)
(right now they are immune to attacks so don't make sense to send your "daughter" with someone like Raki knowing that Riful search for every yoki in sight).
-if the child is Priscilla Isley let her go because without her is as good as dead right now;

Isley will be the ONLY ONE who still have his armour and sword after 100 years since awakening (very strange) to give them to Raki.Also i don't see him making sword\armour for Raki.In fact Isley could have asked...someone...for this things.Or maybe Isley has a hobby in collecting weapons and armours in a cave somewhere and give some of them to Raki.

Isley don't think know how to creat youma\claymores but are good chances that he know how to create a MiB.But the MiBs don't fight at all so maybe a few drawbacks are in their structure same with the new Raki.

Also why Isley started his own experiments now (with Raki and that girl - if is not Priscilla)?
Make no sense.Better chances that are Rubel own experiments.Or maybe Rubel is working with Isley now.Isley maybe send Raki after Clare (if Raki work for him now) but he will know about Clare only from Rubel.

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 16:55
Clare will probably strangle Raki if that girl happens to be his and Prsicillas child

well, don't know about that. he didn't really belong to clare in the first place and after he left clare, he became a 'free agent' for the taking. :p

Awakened
2008-06-03, 16:56
Ok, if we take the other chapters into consideration, the girl is most likely Raki and Priscilla's daughter. When Priscilla was missing, Isley told Raki to go and look for her. If Isley had feelings for Priscilla, he would have looked for her himself.

But 7 years is a long time, things can change.

Vinak
2008-06-03, 16:58
Ok, if we take the other chapters into consideration, the girl is most likely Raki and Priscilla's daughter. When Priscilla was missing, Isley told Raki to go and look for her. If Isley had feelings for Priscilla, he would have looked for her himself.

But 7 years is a long time, things can change.


Priscilla was just a means to an end for Isley. just a tool for him to bend to his will. Raki just made things much easier for him.

However Riful did say Isley was falling for her....but i can imagine that can be interpreted in other ways.

hell88
2008-06-03, 16:58
Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?

Actually he does kind of look like a girl. He looks kind of like Clarice.:heh: Mabye the organiztions big secret about Clarice is that she is Raki's long lost sister! ROFL

Hmmm Mabye Raki won't be able to get all the girls after all because he looks like one.LMAO

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 16:59
the lil girl is probably someone he saved on his journey who happens to sense yomas by chance? i don't know about this 'raki and priscilla' child and it doesn't seems possible.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 17:00
Isley will be the ONLY ONE who still have his armour and sword after 100 years since awakening (very strange) to give them to Raki.Also i don't see him making sword\armour for Raki.In fact Isley could have asked...someone...for this things.Or maybe Isley has a hobby in collecting weapons and armours in a cave somewhere and give some of them to Raki..

its not Isley's armor for sure, we saw it back in extra chapter 3 and it looked like a slightly different version than the female one

Goofus Maximus
2008-06-03, 17:01
So the little girl isn't Priscilla herself, looking small next to a now-grown, towering 6 foot tall Raki?

*Obviously I haven't read/looked at the latest chapter yet.*

Vinak
2008-06-03, 17:02
If an AB is actually a new species and a Claymore is just a hybrid....then i can see them producing offspring....if not with each other than with a human partner...for whatever reason.

maybe thats why they don't breed.....they simply eat humans before they get a chance to get to know them.

(Black widow's come to mind.)


just hit refresh and new messages pop into this thread like magic.

Awakened
2008-06-03, 17:06
If an AB is actually a new species and a Claymore is just a hybrid....then i can see them producing offspring....if not with each other than with a human partner...for whatever reason.

maybe thats why they don't breed.....they simply eat humans before they get a chance to get to know them.

(Black widow's come to mind.)


just hit refresh and new messages pop into this thread like magic.

lol, Before I eat you, lets get to know each other.

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 17:08
can't wait to see clare and the others faces when they see raki ^^; he's probably taller than them except galatea is over 6 foot right? o.o??

Awakened
2008-06-03, 17:10
Having babies is not magic, Priscilla can just take her lunch reproductive system and implant it into her. Then call for Raki, and the next day she tells Raki the good new.

If its a Priscilla's baby she should be about six, the girl look small enough to be six.

The Girl is way to mall to be Priscilla. On page 23 she was standing next to Raki, she is about 3 feet tall. That is if Raki is 6 feet.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 17:17
The Girl is way to mall to be Priscilla. On page 23 she was standing next to Raki, she is about 3 feet tall. That is if Raki is 6 feet.

will have to be, his taller than the villagers standing around him for sure, considering apart from Galatea the height of all the other half yoma is either 175cm tall or 180 cm tall, Raki will be taller than them

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 17:19
If Raki is 6' tall (183cm), that puts the girl at about 3'6" (107cm) by rough estimation from shots of them next to the wagon and when he sets her down in the town. Quick check for growth charts puts 107 cm between 4 and 5 years old (or more generally, a very tall 3 1/2 yo, or very short 6 yo).

Allowing for the pregnancy duration, and that means Raki and Pris would have to be 'getting it on' about 2 years after Pieta (give or take). 2 years is long enough that I could see things starting to develop between them that way, but Raki would still be pretty young at that point (maybe 15 or 16 at best?). Certainly not outside the realm of possibility, though.

So, appearances and the timeline fit with the possibility of the girl being Raki's child. However he doesn't appear to be emotionally encumbered by issues that one might expect when you're carrying around your daughter trying to find your old girlfriend, so I'm still dubious about that possibility.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 17:21
If Raki is 6' tall (183cm), that puts the girl at about 3'6" (107cm) by rough estimation from shots of them next to the wagon and when he sets her down in the town. Quick check for growth charts puts 107 cm between 4 and 5 years old (or more generally, a very tall 3 1/2 yo, or very short 6 yo).

Allowing for the pregnancy duration, and that means Raki and Pris would have to be 'getting it on' about 2 years after Pieta (give or take). 2 years is long enough that I could see things starting to develop between them that way, but Raki would still be pretty young at that point (maybe 15 or 16 at best?). Certainly not outside the realm of possibility, though.

So, appearances and the timeline fit with the possibility of the girl being Raki's child. However he doesn't appear to be emotionally encumbered by issues that one might expect when you're carrying around your daughter trying to find your old girlfriend, so I'm still dubious about that possibility.

well your making it a bit to literal there, 6 foot does not necessary mean exactly 6 foot, but anything in the 6 foot whatever inch range (so for example 6"5)

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 17:23
I wasn't using your number, I just took a good solid height to start with. Making Raki much taller would imply a taller girl as well, which would take her out of the height range for the age range she'd need to be to be Raki's daughter.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 17:24
I wasn't using your number, I just took a good solid height to start with. Making Raki much taller would imply a taller girl as well, which would take her out of the height range for the age range she'd need to be to be Raki's daughter.

true i guess, darn hopefully they reveal who she is next chapter so to end this speculation and stuff

Negativedark
2008-06-03, 17:28
I have to wonder if it's his daughter due to the fact he's still wondering around looking for Claire. Generally speaking if you have a kid with someone else, it's a good sign you've given up on your lost love, and have moved on. Right now we don't know what if any relation the kid has to Raki/Priscilla/Isley. I wouldn't rule out Priscilla entirly either. She seemed younger looking after awakening than she was when she was a claymore. It's possible her body gradually has been changing to fit her mental state.

Jonova
2008-06-03, 17:35
I amma gonna throw some new interest information other than Raki here, I have seen too many of him already xD.

After reading the new chapter once more I found this:

After Miria finished her story, Galatea said :"wow you found all those information by yourself?"
Which Miria replyed with :" No I didn't find it all by myself, I had some one helping me."
Of course Galatea was kinda suprised and asked :"What? Who?"
But Miria refused to give further information regarding that person/people and just said it is a trustworth source.

So whom might that person be? Some MiB? Some one we thought already died? Some new character from outside the continent?

Awakened
2008-06-03, 17:37
Imagine Clare and Raki talking about the past 7 years.

Clare: Was it hard for you to survive these past 7 years?
Raki: No, It was the best time of my life, I enjoyed my time with you. I can't say those time were fun, but I don't regret been with you.
Clare: Tell me about it, I want to hear all the details.
Raki: First of all, let me introduce you to my pride and joy, Pristel. My daughter, she is named after her mother, Priscilla.
Clare's mouth open wide, she thought to herself, I don’t want to heir anymore.

Let the drama begin!

Ok, Clare still have Cid to fall back on.

myshka
2008-06-03, 17:38
Let's not forget that Prissy back in Pieta chapters also kinda looked a little young for her "actual age", whatever that may be. What I mean she looked like a a young teen (12-13 or so) when she met Raki, and at least 16-17 when she was a claymore. For all we know she regressed mentally even more in the last 7 years and developed a younger body to fit her mental state. She's powerful enough to do whatever she wants with her body...
I just think that the "child of Raki/Prissy/Isely" theory is a little far fetched.

MalakTawus
2008-06-03, 17:49
Hey,am i the only one that thinks that the little one is Riful and that Raki is the "something" she found?She is the only one that dislike to walk,no?

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 17:53
Hey,am i the only one that thinks that the little one is Riful and that Raki is the "something" she found?She is the only one that dislike to walk,no?

That would give entirely new implications to Riful's threat that Clare would "pay dearly for this debt."

hell88
2008-06-03, 17:57
I amma gonna throw some new interest information other than Raki here, I have seen too many of him already xD.

After reading the new chapter once more I found this:

After Miria finished her story, Galatea said :"wow you found all those information by yourself?"
Which Miria replyed with :" No I didn't find it all by myself, I had some one helping me."
Of course Galatea was kinda suprised and asked :"What? Who?"
But Miria refused to give further information regarding that person/people and just said it is a trustworth source.

So whom might that person be? Some MiB? Some one we thought already died? Some new character from outside the continent?

Mabye the other person was Irene, or mabye Raphaela.

@MalakTawus, I don't think it would be Riful. Dauf wouldn't let Riful go on another man's shoulder.:heh:

SapientiSat
2008-06-03, 17:59
I amma gonna throw some new interest information other than Raki here, I have seen too many of him already xD.

After reading the new chapter once more I found this:

After Miria finished her story, Galatea said :"wow you found all those information by yourself?"
Which Miria replyed with :" No I didn't find it all by myself, I had some one helping me."
Of course Galatea was kinda suprised and asked :"What? Who?"
But Miria refused to give further information regarding that person/people and just said it is a trustworth source.

So whom might that person be? Some MiB? Some one we thought already died? Some new character from outside the continent?

I hope it is Rubel... That would be a nice twist. This way, Rubel would be spared after they attack the org and mangaka can use him as a tutor/narrator helping them and giving info whenever needed.

Jonova
2008-06-03, 18:11
I hope it is Rubel... That would be a nice twist. This way, Rubel would be spared after they attack the org and mangaka can use him as a tutor/narrator helping them and giving info whenever needed.

Some MiB is the most probably answer to the question imo, I dislike Rubel tho, that guy creeps me out.

Luune
2008-06-03, 18:24
So now that Raki can pull chicks without relying on the pity card, I wonder if he's still looking for Clare :D

rukori
2008-06-03, 18:34
so he said...

Guido
2008-06-03, 18:43
Maybe the new girl that Raki is tagging along with is...


Lune, the Organization's eye.

myshka
2008-06-03, 18:53
Hey,am i the only one that thinks that the little one is Riful and that Raki is the "something" she found?She is the only one that dislike to walk,no?


That's true, Riful does love to ride on shoulders and to point fingers at things....:D

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 18:58
Oh, and based on the girl's clothing (black skirt and boots; moderately complicated fastenings, so probably indicative of someone older than the 4-5 years old a daughter would be), not likely to be Lune (no Claymore uniform), and not likely to be Riful (no potato sack). Though of those two, Riful's the more likely to get new clothes, but I also have a hard time seeing her associating with someone who was trained by Isley.

Cyclone
2008-06-03, 19:01
So... I spend all of last night, and most of the morning clicking that damn refresh button, before I'm forced to go to work. An hour or so after getting to work, the chapter comes out. *sigh*

Can't be Pricilla (as we know her) or Lune.
Pricilla is taller than than that - normal human height from what we see of her in the Teresa and ES3 arcs. So unles she's shrunk herself...

Lune has to be older too. She was already a Claymore before the time skip, so assuming she became a claymore at the age of 3, she'd be more than 10 now, which makes her too old.

I'll hold out for the japanese raws before speculating, but as of right now I have no clue who the girl could be.
- She seems to be able to sense youki, but has no Claymore - so it's unlikely to be active Claymore.
- She's young enough to be Pricialla's kid... but 'daddy Raki' on a quest to find his old girlfriend does seem unlikely. Could be Isley's I suppose...
- Could be some Claymore trainee escapee he met on his travels too I suppose. That I'm not sure would make sense story wise though.

I'll really have to think about this...

It's also nice to see the female fans of Claymore get some fan service for once (didn't realize there were so many here) - seems only fair. :)


PS - for the love of Pete, STOP WITH THE SPOILER TAGS PEOPLE!!!!

itisreallyveryannoying

Enara
2008-06-03, 19:05
how did you people find the chapter. I;ve been looking for hours.

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 19:05
I also have a hard time seeing her associating with someone who was trained by Isley.

on a side note besides claymore;

darth sidious (star wars) didn't really had a problem with anakin when the jedi were training him and maybe riful felt the same after realizing raki had potential and then booted dauf out of the picture. :) me just thinking outlandish ideas :p

myshka
2008-06-03, 19:09
Ohh, btw, did anyone else notice how Raki's armor comes down to cover his forearm?? The armor on his arms looks totally different before he deflects yoma's tentacles?? seems kinda advanced for their little 'experimental island"

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 19:10
It's also nice to see the female fans of Claymore get some fan service for once (didn't realize there were so many here) - seems only fair. :)


yes, finally, i've been waiting for this for awhile and i'm glad all the waitin' has paid off. ^^;

ox2
2008-06-03, 19:54
I saw the picture and I still think how do we know that that's not Pirssy? I admte that she did look very small but the entire picture looked to be having proportian issues. Did you see Raki's hands? And Priscilla wasn't very big to begain with. Besides Miata I would say that she was the smallest.

Did anybody else think that Raki looked like a girl? Was that just me?

I think we all feel that way about raki's appearance...but going back to what you said about proportions...I've noticed that with claymore a lot...very big hands. I always thought that was norihiro yagi's style.

ebrehe
2008-06-03, 20:08
i hope we are going to have translations soooooon

raki, oh boy! i have never expected somthing like that from him

rukori
2008-06-03, 20:10
Gods of Rabona, if u exist, please bless us with a quick translation... (oh yeah and keep the boy safe)

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 20:54
Careful Zato_1one, the mods will delete that last post pretty quick. They do not like full translations (even if I love them). I agree with 88 though, sometimes translations take forever :(. Even the raws take a long time to come out. It blows my mind that the chinese scans beat the japanese scans...

mosmos
2008-06-03, 20:59
Thank you zato_1one ... that made my day.

the chinese web-site is taking forever to load..too many users ?

hell88
2008-06-03, 20:59
It blows my mind that the chinese scans beat the japanese scans...

Probably the black market.

zato_1one
2008-06-03, 21:02
Huh? I think they allow translation script but not allow posting raw or scanlation. :confused: Am I wrong?

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khryoleoz
2008-06-03, 21:03
Wow. It's a good thing I have never joined in the Raki-hating mob, and my perseverance is vindicated. Cool stuff.

Fenrir_valindri
2008-06-03, 21:10
Hehe, I always knew Raki would grow up to be a bad-ass Bishonen just to piss the Raki haters off. (pulls out his "I knew Raki would turn out cool" t-shirt)

A lot of interesting things this chapter, my money is on Rubel being the inside man, since he is the MiB that has gotten the most "focus."

And Helen getting Drunk fits right along with my fic at fanfiction.net, knew she would be a happy drunk!



GAR-Raki is certainly impressive, I figured that with enough training a normal human could defeat a Yoma single-handedly, both Galk and Sid were impressive in their fight against the Large Yoma 7 years ago, and the one guy Teresa offed seemed pretty confident he could take a normal Yoma. (Too bad he was up against Teresa)

The small-figure along side Raki is definitely something to note.


If you want my guess I agree with an earlier poster. Priscilla's form is changing to match her mentality. As many people have pointed out before (even if I think people exaggerate this a lot) Priscilla looks quite young post-awakening, and with her mind the way it is (and with Yoma shape-shifting abilities) I believe it is quite possible that Priscilla has made herself into a child again. (Much like Riful does, despite the much more mature appearance of her Awakened form)

This brings up the question of what happened to Isley?

He could be perfectly fine, he trained Raki as he promised, and Priscilla wanted to help him in his search. Raki is likely aware of their nature by now (if the small figure is indeed Priscilla) but probably not the whole truth (AKA: the war in the north and Isley manipulating Priscilla.)

It is also Isley made a mistake, and Priscilla separated from him, and he couldn't stop her.

or he could always be dead :uhoh:

Raki's armor does seem rather impressive; it could just be exceptionally well made, but it does mesh with my earlier idea of making armor out of the same material as the Organization's Sword. :heh:

Enara
2008-06-03, 21:18
now another month before we get to see mega hot kick ass raki again.

I really don't think the girl is prissy.

nero23
2008-06-03, 21:27
Unlike in the anime, we were never shown a scene in the manga where Raki actually finds out that Isley and Pris are awakened beings. If he's carrying around their child, and know that the girl can sense youma, that kind of gives it away, doesn't it? Raki finding out the true identities of Isley and Pris seems to be too good a plot-line to gloss over like that.

yezhanquan
2008-06-03, 21:31
We hate Raki only in the anime. In the manga, he's our little trooper. Well, by now he's about my age (early 20s =D).

Now, we need the pics to put everyhting in context.

Mosmos: That link is SO going to get deleted. Everyone, save it!!


...Or maybe not. The full chapter wasn't at the site, but nice tidbits + some good fanart.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 21:37
I do not think that the girl is Priscilla, nor is it Raki's daughter.

Why lie to Cid and say that the child is not his? What reason would he have to lie about it?

Of course, Cid may tell Clare that Raki has a daughter, and Raki doesn't want Clare to know, but honestly, why hide it? A daughter isn't something you would lie about. Especially if Raki is a man now and no longer a boy.

If you had a daughter, would you lie and say she's not yours?

Also, it seems that Raki and Clare will meet soon. Cid tells Clare that Raki has moved west, and has been retracing their footsteps of their travels together. With that knowledge, Clare should be able to easily track down Raki. The question is if Clare would leave the other Ghosts to look for Raki, especially now that she knows Miria's secret.

I also find it interesting about another comment that Cid made. Raki is traveling alone with a young girl much like how Clare was traveling alone with a young Raki. Also like how Teresa was traveling alone with a young Clare. If the cycle really is continuing, Raki has found this girl somewhere who reminds him of himself when he was young.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-03, 21:40
I also find it interesting about another comment that Cid made. Raki is traveling alone with a young girl much like how Clare was traveling alone with a young Raki. Also like how Teresa was traveling alone with a young Clare. If the cycle really is continuing, Raki has found this girl somewhere who reminds him of himself when he was young.

well not exactly, she is able to sense yoki which means she has to be an AB (i find it unlikely a half yoma managed to leave the org at such a young age, judging by the scene of Teresa being chased by an org member when she was little)

tenken627
2008-06-03, 21:45
well not exactly, she is able to sense yoki which means she has to be an AB (i find it unlikely a half yoma managed to leave the org at such a young age, judging by the scene of Teresa being chased by an org member when she was little)

Well, Raki said that he was taking care of her for a relative. Maybe the "relative" helped free her from the Organization. It could be many possible things.

We don't even know if the little girl is even a yoma hybrid. We are so used to thinking about things only yoma related, which is not the case anymore. There are many doors of opportunities that Miria's secret has opened up. She could be from the other continent, and Raki picked her up as well as impenetrable armor and a large sword.

Enara
2008-06-03, 21:46
in claymore pre. time skip raki was about 12-13 he's like 19 20 now

zato_1one
2008-06-03, 21:47
I also find it interesting about another comment that Cid made. Raki is traveling alone with a young girl much like how Clare was traveling alone with a young Raki. Also like how Teresa was traveling alone with a young Clare. If the cycle really is continuing, Raki has found this girl somewhere who reminds him of himself when he was young.

I also start to think like that but the problem is that this runaway girl can sense Yoki. :uhoh: So I think their relation should be more deeper and more interesting. Or else it will be too repetitive.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 21:51
I also start to think like that but the problem is that this runaway girl can sense Yoki. :uhoh: So I think their relation should be more deeper and more interesting. Or else it will be too repetitive.


The fact that the girl is traveling with Raki alone all across the continent pretty much speaks to the fact that Raki's "relative" or close friend is dead and the girl probably has no other friends or family.

That sounds much like young Clare's and Raki's situation.

nero23
2008-06-03, 21:53
I lean towards the idea that Raki picked her up from somewhere, and that at the least, he doesn't think she is an AB. I don't think Raki would associate (knowingly) with ABs, at least from the point we last saw him. He may put the girl's ability to sense youma down to her being a claymore prep student, or just some girl with a mysterious power like Miata.

chibamonster
2008-06-03, 21:59
@Zato_1one: I agree that it seems translations should be allowed. I even got into an argument with the administrators about it last month when derelict88 posted a translation of the last claymore chapter. Apparently they are not, but if the admins don't delete it I will be super happy :D. I just figured I would give you a warning about it so you are not surprised.

@ mosmos: Good find on those pics of raki's armor. It can move! The armor seems to be able to either slide down his forearm or it can actually just telescope out to cover his entire arm (maybe even his entire body). There was a definite sound effect with it too. Berserker armor anyone? This is no usual armor Raki is fighting in. Blocking the youma fingers with something that was not on his forearm moments before is huge. This armor is definitely important for the future of the story with Raki. And if I am not mistaken, that sword is bigger than a claymore...

Ancient Soul
2008-06-03, 21:59
If that translation is correct...

Then i must say that i'm a little annoyed because Miria didn't revealed his surse
from within the ORG to the others.She either :
1. don't trust his camarades;
2. the others don't know about that guy so no point in tell them;
3. they know him but will not believe her.

If the surse is Rubel Clare will have believed her right away since Rubel wasn't to bad
towards her as a handler and even told her some things about whats going on.

Right now i began to think that Rubel is not alone in his plans.After all is just a handler.
Most likely someone within the council support him (yeah i know politics).I mean is possible
to be problems within the council at least about what experiments to be done and how to do
it.Enough to create a breach there.Also Raki somehow got a sword and a suit full of armour out of nowhere.It began to seem that even Isley is cought within a greater plan.That girl i think is a new experiment (just yoki sensing) done by someone.I mean if there are two groups within The ORG each one with his own experiments the story will be more intersting.

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 21:59
Also, it seems that Raki and Clare will meet soon. Cid tells Clare that Raki has moved west, and has been retracing their footsteps of their travels together. With that knowledge, Clare should be able to easily track down Raki. The question is if Clare would leave the other Ghosts to look for Raki, especially now that she knows Miria's secret.

Looks like it's time for the team to split up (temporarily). How I could see it unfolding from here:

Teams:

Miria (lead)
w/ Tabitha, Cynthia
Objective: Establish Rebel Alliance footholds while Clare locates Raki.
Trouble: Encounter Dragon Kin finding the island and starting to make a beachhead for invasion.

Clare (lead)
w/ Helen, Deneve, Yuma
Objective: Reunion with Raki
Altercation: Riful. Time to twist things around with Raki possibly defending Riful and Clare from each other due to what he's learned from Isley; be interesting to see the other side of Helen's comment come about, too.

Galatea (lead)
w/ Miata, Clarice
Objective: Secure Rabona, watch for Org offensives
Mule-headedness: Clarice decides she has to strike out on her own (with Miata) for some purpose (eg: evidence of Org movement, confronting her handler, etc.) leaving Galatea in a bad position when a real attack happens. Strategizing with Cid, Galk and the other troops yields an effective victory by primarily human hands.


I also start to think like that but the problem is that this runaway girl can sense Yoki. So I think their relation should be more deeper and more interesting. Or else it will be too repetitive.

Actually, we merely assume she can sense youki, but that's not guaranteed. She could be like Miata or something else entirely. Vaguely reminds me of the guy in Parasyte would could tell who was infected by the aliens, but only by actually looking at their faces.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 22:10
I also feel like there will be a parting of ways Kinematics, although I have no proof. I just feel like that is the direction the story is going.

Kind of like the breaking of the Fellowship of the Ring.

There is just so many different directions that the story is alluding to. Reunion with Raki, discovering more of the truth of the Organization and the DoDs, and also tracking down Organization movements as well as securing Rabona (depending on the deal Miria and Father Vincent makes).

Unless Yagi-sensei starts to just make coincidences after coincidences, I would expect that the group will start to split up, each with their own purpose and path.

I agree that Clare will head one group, Miria will head another, and Galatea will head the last. I am not sure of how the rest will fall into line. The only sure thing is that Tabitha will follow Miria no matter what.

mosmos
2008-06-03, 22:13
Arguement- just to spice things up.

That little girl following Raki is definately Pricilla.
That girl can sense yoma ? - That's Pricilla
Small girl that sticks to Raki - That's Pricilla
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/809.png

Do you really think Pricilla will allow another girl to come between her and Raki ?
No way.. She kills just like Psycho ....(Yagi sama, is that twisted. hehe)

Ancient Soul
2008-06-03, 22:21
Right now the situation seem very bad for The ORG.
Isley+Priscilla, Riful+Dauf+some Army of AB and youmas, Miria's Ghosts+Galatea+Miata, Rabona (and very soon others cities and towns) and now Raki+some girl (who kill youma and thus their affairs) are not under they control.Also someone from within leaked informations for years.

From what Miria say it seem she have been cought while spying but the one who did it dind't
report and even told her more.Since Rubel was in the field with Clare most of the time, good chances that Miria's source is someone else than Rubel.Will be amusing to see that even Rubel was manipulated in a a great game of chess.

That girl i don't thing is Priscilla.If it was, Riful would have attacked Isley because no
better chance than now when he is alone.Dauf and maybe a few others AB should have helped her to deafeat him.From this translation seem that Raki and the girl were in Rabona one year ago, but Riful still was looking for claymore in order to awaken them just a short time ago.So Priscilla is still with Isley.

myshka
2008-06-03, 22:25
I lean towards the idea that Raki picked her up from somewhere, and that at the least, he doesn't think she is an AB. I don't think Raki would associate (knowingly) with ABs, at least from the point we last saw him. He may put the girl's ability to sense youma down to her being a claymore prep student, or just some girl with a mysterious power like Miata.

OMG you are totally right!!! She's got Miata's sixth sense!!! Miata could sense Galatea while taking yoma supressant pills, and that power was said to be completely unrelated ot claymore power. So does that mean new character? Myabe Raki met her on his travels with Prissy and Iseley? Mystery girl figures out who Isely and Prissy are, but Prissy doesnt touch little girls and makes her a new toy :)

That actually makes me a little relieved, I mean poor Raki, he's already managed to be almost eaten by many yoma and few ABs. He knows Isely and Prissy, and if you throw Riful into that mix, that makes him one very unlucky guy despite his name lol. It's a miracle he still lives!!!

Jonova
2008-06-03, 22:29
Arguement- just to spice things up.

That little girl following Raki is definately Pricilla.
That girl can sense yoma ? - That's Pricilla
Small girl that sticks to Raki - That's Pricilla
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/809.png

Do you really think Pricilla will allow another girl to come between her and Raki ?
No way.. She kills just like Psycho ....(Yagi sama, is that twisted. hehe)

Hey that's my album lol, am I getting famous or something xD.

As for that girl, she could be Priscilla, but there is alot stuff needs to be explained if that is the case. Why did she shrink? Why would Isley let Priscilla and Raki running around randomly while he had some plan with Priscilla? Since Raki is well aware of the girl's ability to sense yoki, how would Priscilla explain it to him? I don't think Raki would willing ally with some ABs knowing the truth.

Right now I am leaning towards the theroy of that girl is a trainee escped from the org that Raki picked up during his travel just like how Clare picked him up/Teresa picked Clare up.

Cyclone
2008-06-03, 22:33
Unlike in the anime, we were never shown a scene in the manga where Raki actually finds out that Isley and Pris are awakened beings. If he's carrying around their child, and know that the girl can sense youma, that kind of gives it away, doesn't it? Raki finding out the true identities of Isley and Pris seems to be too good a plot-line to gloss over like that.

Unlike the anime, Raki in the manga was not a mentally retarded emo.
So yes, he probably figured it out many years ago. The fact that Pricilla and Isley don't age must have given it away. I suppose it's possible that when confronted they lied to him and told him that they were still Claymores, but I don't think that's the case.
Raki always had a more open mind towards Claymores than just about anyone else. It's likely that if he found out that Pricilla and Isley were ABs, then, yes, it'd be a shock, but he'd remember that they never harmed him and that they saved his life up north (he'd probably freeze to death if they didn't take him along). He owes them a lot (Isley's sword training class looks pretty effective...), and Raki is not the type to ignore that.

That said... Bishonen or not... that's no reason to start liking him. I never had a problem with his personality (manga anyways). It's simple Jealousy over Clare (and if Galatea ever even senses him, I consider his death warrent signed). The seven years haven't changed that (though they have, thankfully, put some distance between then, but it seems like he's not forgetful enough for me to get to like him). I feel perfectly content in hating Raki onward.

That all said... I gotta start having a closer look at how that armor is put together (specifically, how does that sliding bit on the arm works). Raki would be the ideal chararacter to be my first cosplay at the next anime con...

myshka
2008-06-03, 22:33
Raki must have figured out something about Isely and Prissy by now, I mean they dont age and eat human guts :)

cf18
2008-06-03, 22:43
Well at least Raki is not a Claymore since he don't have the yoma sense, but has enough skill to handle a small yoma.

As for possibility of the small girl:
A very young (Miata like) Claymore trainee managed to escape, and found by Raki or Priscilla
Child of Priscilla & Isley
Child of Priscilla & Raki
Child of Priscilla, asexual spawn
Priscilla herself, regressed to a younger age.

All crazy speculation anyway. All we know is she looks very small, age around 6, young enough to be Raki's daughter. She travels with Raki, and can sense yoma.

mosmos
2008-06-03, 22:43
Hey that's my album lol, am I getting famous or something xD.

As for that girl, she could be Priscilla, but there is alot stuff needs to be explained if that is the case. Why did she shrink? Why would Isley let Priscilla and Raki running around randomly while he had some plan with Priscilla? Since Raki is well aware of the girl's ability to sense yoki, how would Priscilla explain it to him? I don't think Raki would willing ally with some ABs knowing the truth.

Right now I am leaning towards the theroy of that girl is a trainee escped from the org that Raki picked up during his travel just like how Clare picked him up/Teresa picked Clare up.


Thank you Jonova for your generousity.
I sincerely apologized for using your pics. Dui Bu Qi! (I just copy and paste.)

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 22:44
The fact that Pricilla and Isley don't age must have given it away.

While I'll grant there's a strong likelihood that Raki knows the truth, I highly doubt it's due to their aging or lack thereof. 7 years is not a very long time unless you're under maybe 15, as far as showing the effects of age go, and for a girl to retain a child-like face well into her 20's is not unheard of. Plus, unless you have pictures that you can compare with, the human mind isn't going to notice long-term changes in looks for people that you see everyday.

I used to work with a girl in an accounting department who was around 24, I think, who was regularly carded wherever she went because she honestly didn't look older than 17, and if she'd wanted to try could probably have made herself look 15. And for an athletic adult like Isley, it's easy to see even a normal human version of him looking roughly the same for anywhere between the ages of 20 and 40.

tenken627
2008-06-03, 22:46
I feel perfectly content in hating Raki onward.

That all said... I gotta start having a closer look at how that armor is put together (specifically, how does that sliding bit on the arm works). Raki would be the ideal chararacter to be my first cosplay at the next anime con...


lol Cyclone.

That's funny how your most hated character in Claymore would be your first cosplay.

But, I guess the choices are limited for male Claymore cosplay. Maybe you could be Rubel? Or Dauf?? Maybe even Rachel??

zato_1one
2008-06-03, 22:46
It's possible that the girl may be former Claymore trainee or someone with sixth sense. Come to think about it, if that girl is Prissy or Prissy's child then I don't know what is she eating or what ingredient Raki used to cook for her. Furthermore, Raki's not looked like a cook anymore. :heh:

Jonova
2008-06-03, 22:54
Thank you Jonova for your generousity.
I sincerely apologized for using your pics. Dui Bu Qi! (I just copy and paste.)

It's ok, I am not mad or anything. I uploaded them to share with other people, just felt like a little more credit could be nice =).

Cyclone
2008-06-03, 22:59
Right now I am leaning towards the theroy of that girl is a trainee escped from the org that Raki picked up during his travel just like how Clare picked him up/Teresa picked Clare up.

Taking into account Cid's statements, my guess is that it's the child of Pricilla and Isley. Didn't know it was possible, but hey - why not?

Yes, Pricilla does seem to enjoy snuggle time with Raki, but when the going gets tough, she worries about Isley (Luciella fight), and charges to his rescue saving him afterwards when Riful shows up. I guess Riful wasn't lying or mistaken when she said that Isley fell head over heals for Pricilla afterall. The whole march south was just to quitely settle down somewhere his wife likes (so he sent his armies off to be KIA to cut strings with his past and start anew).

Fact is though, we really have no idea how youma are made. I think it's not outside the realm of possibility for... well... let's just say Berserk: Trolls Arcs, at the organization. So it may well be possible for ABs to reproduce.

(and yes, Raki and that child are, I'm almost convinced, what Riful found)

mosmos
2008-06-03, 23:04
It's ok, I am not mad or anything. I uploaded them to share with other people, just felt like a little more credit could be nice =).

Ok thanks for your kindness.
I will remember..

Vinak
2008-06-03, 23:09
well if Priscilla holds any kind of emotional attachment to Raki, I guess thats what Riful could have found to be interesting. force Priscilla to hesitate at a critical moment in battle for example.

but the Youki manipulation part snags on this. so far we only know the girl seems to be able to recognize Yoma, but we don't know who she is or how she knows. How come Riful needs Yoki manipulators to begin with?

gnc742
2008-06-03, 23:09
i saw the chinese raw in another forum and it seems so cool

Cyclone
2008-06-03, 23:10
While I'll grant there's a strong likelihood that Raki knows the truth, I highly doubt it's due to their aging or lack thereof. 7 years is not a very long time unless you're under maybe 15, as far as showing the effects of age go, and for a girl to retain a child-like face well into her 20's is not unheard of. Plus, unless you have pictures that you can compare with, the human mind isn't going to notice long-term changes in looks for people that you see everyday.

I used to work with a girl in an accounting department who was around 24, I think, who was regularly carded wherever she went because she honestly didn't look older than 17, and if she'd wanted to try could probably have made herself look 15. And for an athletic adult like Isley, it's easy to see even a normal human version of him looking roughly the same for anywhere between the ages of 20 and 40.

Granted, aging alone would not be enough by itself, but when coupled with suspicions from other sources (youki sensing which they don't hide, Isley's sword play, no apparent job, etc), he'd put 2 and 2 together (he should know from his time with Clare that Claymores don't age). He was already getting suspicious a few short days after meeting them.

BTW - no more dragon's kin please - we don't need to propagate that mistranslation (blind is, I believe, the same person who mistranslated it originally in 79). It's probably still Descendants to Dragons unless Yagi changed it in 80. We'll find out when the Japanese raws come out.

Jonova
2008-06-03, 23:12
(and yes, Raki and that child are, I'm almost convinced, what Riful found)

Why is that? Riful mentioned she would need some one with yoki manipulation ability to fully take advantage of her finding. What is some one with yoki manipulation going to do to Raki and that little girl?
Raki - doesn't have yoki at all, so nothing to manipuate.
Little Girl
- if she is an AB powerful enough to battle abyssal one, it is unlikely you will be able to manipulate her with the power of Clare or Galatea.
- if she is like Alicia, a powerful Claymore who can awaken into something capcable of battle abyssal one. Riful would just kidnap her and make her awaken, its not like Riful wants an AB that is capcable of retain human mind anyways.

Enara
2008-06-03, 23:12
when I was looking at the chapter I saw that Raki is was using some of Clares old moves.

Vinak
2008-06-03, 23:15
Once Clare finds Raki, she can finally grow her hair out...

Gooral
2008-06-03, 23:24
Taking into account Cid's statements, my guess is that it's the child of Pricilla and Isley. Didn't know it was possible, but hey - why not?
(...)
I think that MiB would think of possible mutiny of their warriors so I don't think they would allow them to reproduce. Otherwise they wouldn't need any more children, they could just breed the ones they made.

As for this little girl on Raki's shoulder. I don't think it's Priscilla nor other AB, rather second Miata or a trainee. He wouldn't tell her to rest (if he really said sth like that) to AB or a claymore (unless she let him to take care of small fries) and I don't think he would risk killing innocent people if he didn't know whom to attack. Seriously, she pointed at someone and he knew who to kill, he could be mistaken (parallax error anyone ;)) ? If she was powerful then she should handle them and Raki could kill youma who would unmask themselves.
Now that I think about it, it would be somewhat suspicious if he carried little girl with a covered face, and Cid shouldn't be able to tell if she's a girl or a boy unless he saw her face meaning she didn't have silver eyes. She can't be AB either because Galatea was probably in the town at that time, also if she was a claymore or AB why would he carry her? She should be able to walk faster than him and have more stamina.

Kinematics
2008-06-03, 23:31
he should know from his time with Clare that Claymores don't age

Once again, why would he? Clare isn't exactly the most talkative person. Besides, we don't get that info until her conversation with Irene, which is after Clare and Raki have split up, and Irene implied that Clare may not necessarily have known about the non-aging effect (though she probably did).

myshka
2008-06-03, 23:31
How can raki hold any interest for Riful? He's just a human, and she's after claymores with yoki manipulation abilities. If she were to kill him, it'll probably just make Prissy mad. She probably found out the same thing that Miria told everyone. What one knows is typically soon becomes known to many...That's why she's building a little army again.

Or maybe it relates to Alicia and Beth. At first, Riful was only trying to build a little army for herself since she knew that isely is comming. But she became very interested in Galatea and Clare after she watched Clare awaken and Galatea pull her back, and same with Jeane. We also know from the Pieta battle that a yoki manipulator can force claymores to go over their limit. It's likely that several yoki manipulator ABs can supress Alicia's awakening and turn her back to a claymore? Riful is in a bad position right now. Before, both Iseley and Luciella only had probably a 50/50 chance of defeating her in a one on one battle. Now we got prissy and Alicia in the mix, so she's trying to protect herself. It kinda makes sence since neither Alicia nor Prissy are fully awakened?

clarakiss~
2008-06-03, 23:35
maybe the lil girl is like raki, meaning raki has the ability to dispose of normal youmas and she has the ability to sense youmas but is also human. and maybe raki saved her years ago and told priscilla & isley to keep her around and both agreed on raki's behalf.

and also raki woudn't say 'rest here' to a awakened being or runway claymore trainee of some sort.

myshka
2008-06-03, 23:37
Priscilla doesnt eat little girls anyway, so it could be true...

Cyclone
2008-06-04, 00:36
And here I said I wouldn't speculate until the japanese raw came out... oh well.

I think that MiB would think of possible mutiny of their warriors so I don't think they would allow them to reproduce. Otherwise they wouldn't need any more children, they could just breed the ones they made.

As for this little girl on Raki's shoulder. I don't think it's Priscilla nor other AB, rather second Miata or a trainee. He wouldn't tell her to rest (if he really said sth like that) to AB or a claymore (unless she let him to take care of small fries) and I don't think he would risk killing innocent people if he didn't know whom to attack. Seriously, she pointed at someone and he knew who to kill, he could be mistaken (parallax error anyone ;)) ? If she was powerful then she should handle them and Raki could kill youma who would unmask themselves.
Now that I think about it, it would be somewhat suspicious if he carried little girl with a covered face, and Cid shouldn't be able to tell if she's a girl or a boy unless he saw her face meaning she didn't have silver eyes. She can't be AB either because Galatea was probably in the town at that time, also if she was a claymore or AB why would he carry her? She should be able to walk faster than him and have more stamina.

An excellent point about Galatea which I hadn't considered, but there is a logical explanation for it.

Why didn't the girl fight the youma? She's no more than 6 years old. What kind of gaurdian are you if you make a 6 year old fight your fights.

Now, about Galatea... If the girl is indeed the child of Pricilla and Isley, then I suspect the youki potential in the girl far exceeds that of Miata and Galatea combined - maybe that of even Teresa herself. If Galatea was cautious about starting a fight with Agatha, she'd definitely want to avoid waking her up - especially if she found out they were just travellers who were passing through (why would Raki avoid talking to a blind nun?).

My theory is that while she probably has the potential to be the most powerful being ever, her current power level is much much lower - bascially that of a 6 year old that has some powers that they don't fully understand yet, and cannot fully control. So while she may be able to distinguish youma, she is not battle ready yet. She wouldn't be the first 6 year old to be carried at the end of a long trip.

Why is that? Riful mentioned she would need some one with yoki manipulation ability to fully take advantage of her finding. What is some one with yoki manipulation going to do to Raki and that little girl?
Raki - doesn't have yoki at all, so nothing to manipuate.
Little Girl
- if she is an AB powerful enough to battle abyssal one, it is unlikely you will be able to manipulate her with the power of Clare or Galatea.
- if she is like Alicia, a powerful Claymore who can awaken into something capcable of battle abyssal one. Riful would just kidnap her and make her awaken, its not like Riful wants an AB that is capcable of retain human mind anyways.

Even if it is Pricilla's child, and an Awakened Galatea should be able to have limited control over her - especially if my theory about her youki powers not yet being fully developed is right (we don't know how much youki Riful senses in her [and that amount may be different than what Galatea sees]). In any case, her value to Riful would be that the girl could attack Pricilla (even with weak or human attacks) and Pricilla would probably not be capable of killing her.

chibamonster
2008-06-04, 00:37
Ultimate shock: little girl is Teresa. And I am still laughing at Helen getting rowdy drunk. Figures. Now I am wondering if there are still AB's alive on the main land. The old ones used in the original battles who are still alive.

@Cyclone: I laughed out loud when I saw that you too had thought of doing new Raki as a cosplay. I have never done one and no one in Claymore looks anything like me unless I wanted to go as Galk which is no good. Maybe awakened Rigald. That one could work. I had not thought of AB's yet. But Raki seems about right. Although it might be a while before I ever do a cosplay... Although I still think if I were to do one I would go as Batou from Ghost in the Shell.

mosmos
2008-06-04, 01:08
Gods of Rabona, if u exist, please bless us with a quick translation... (oh yeah and keep the boy safe)

Hey, your praying works man...

Gods of Rabona, please bless us with the scanlation at onemanga now..

nghtelf
2008-06-04, 01:09
does anyoen know if the newest chapter 80 manga has been translated and scanned? (IM NOT ASKING FOR WEBSITES, IM JUST ASKING IF YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE BEEN UPLOADED ANYWHERE)~

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 01:19
Reading them as I speak.

Ok, Raki stopped by Rabona a year ago, according to Cid.

Mikke
2008-06-04, 01:25
Maybe Raki and Priscilla married and even had time to have a lil half awakened baby by now :D Well, no need to get married for that but it's just a spec..

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 01:26
Well, Raki is moving at a speed unexpected for a human as he hunts the Yoma. Hmmm...

little_angel
2008-06-04, 01:26
Hey, your praying works man...

Gods of Rabona, please bless us with the scanlation at onemanga now..

i will join too ..

Gods of Rabona, please bless us with the scanlation at onemanga now... :D

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 01:28
Short chapter this month. Basically, centers on Raki. And no, we don't get to see the little girl's face at all.

Well, Alicia and Beth were discussed. But, our lore mistress states that they're still a distance away from being battle-worthy.

Observations: His gear seems to be similar to Claymores. Liked the armguard.

Bashfulz
2008-06-04, 01:30
refering to this page... http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/809.png

whats the little tapes thingy at the side of the girl's leg? that part looks pretty too detailed if she's just wearing some random boots. possible that she's crippled?

little_angel
2008-06-04, 01:34
Short chapter this month. Basically, centers on Raki. And no, we don't get to see the little girl's face at all.

Well, Alicia and Beth were discussed. But, our lore mistress states that they're still a distance away from being battle-worthy.

Questions: His gear seems to be similar to Claymores. Liked the armguard.


yes thats right ..

her face must be the thing that will attract us for the next chapter ..

and for Raki i suppose something must happened in the past 7 years that let him be that strong but what is it ? :confused:

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 01:34
They look like the back of greaves. Strange little piece of work.

Special mention: Now that Raki is strong enough to let a little girl sit on his shoulder....

Gooral
2008-06-04, 01:35
Why didn't the girl fight the youma? She's no more than 6 years old. What kind of gaurdian are you if you make a 6 year old fight your fights.
(...)
How can you tell she's "no more than 6 years old" and that he's her guardian? Also, what kind of guardian would he be if he left her alone and went to fight youma? She could be taken hostage or get injured. Even if he was sure that he could take care of them he would be risking that she could get hurt anyway (although it was safer to take her off his shoulders it was still dangerous). If I was a guardian I wouldn't travel with a kiddo to a place where youma are to begin with but would find a safer place. If he wanted to meet Clare that badly he could have stayed at one place (Rabona for example). He was using her as a sniffing dog in the first place anyway, I wouldn't call him a guardian, he was more like her partner or her trainer/tamer :P. He trained her so she would point at youma (which she can sense) or which is more plausible IMO she's doing it from her own free will and is more than capable of defending herself.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 01:37
I think Isley had taught him well. Maybe, the Silver King even revealed all that he knows to the kid. If that is true, then it further fuels speculation that the little girl is Priscilla, who has further regressed. Cid did mention that Raki was rather unwilling to tell them who she was.

Most probably, Raki got over the initial shock/betrayal and agreed to let Isley teach him what he knew. Once he's learnt enough (and with Priscilla regressed to this level), he bids his sensei farewell, takes up Priscilla as a detector, and goes on his journey to search for Clare.

Gooral
2008-06-04, 01:59
Hmm.. This 6 year old estimation could be accurate now that I think about it. How can you tell she's "no more than 6 years old" was a stupid question. After all Cid thought she might be Raki's daughter, so she couldn't look too old. Only way she's older is that she's not human (which is probably so).

mosmos
2008-06-04, 02:25
Can AB even be impregnate and give birth in the frist place ?

I hope it is possible because I would like to see Ritful pregnant with duth's baby. HAHAHA!!

tenken627
2008-06-04, 02:28
We know that Raki and this girl visited Rabona 1 year ago. Cid never mentions anyone else with them, so while Isley and Priscilla might have been with them, I doubt it.

That means that Raki has parted ways with Isley and Priscilla at least a little more than a year ago.

If Raki was tracing back his footsteps during his travels with Clare, that could possibly mean that he visited other places first before he arrived at Rabona. The city of Rabona seems to be near the middle of their travels, but we're not sure how long Clare and Raki traveled together, as no timeline was given. They may have traveled to other places as well that we haven't seen.

Plus, he says that this is his first visit to his hometown, when his hometown should have been the starting point, so I'm not sure where he started.

Either way, this probably means that Raki stayed with Isley + Priscilla (and most likely trained with Isley) for at most 5 to 5.5 years after the War in Pieta. Then around that time, they decided to part ways for whatever reason.

KiNA
2008-06-04, 02:40
So many imba poses for Raki @.@

Cheese Ninja
2008-06-04, 03:03
Maybe it's Isley's old armor and sword from before he awakened, it wouldn't be all that useful to him anymore. Also, maybe the armor that the first generation males got was actually functional and made out of the same metal as the Claymores. Speculation.

Ancient Soul
2008-06-04, 03:12
No way that Raki is human any longer.He was at least in pair with the youma in speed even after this releases his yoki.Also is hair and eyes seem that of a claymore.In fact he deed at least if not better than pre-Rabona Clare.(when he charge at the youma one of villagers has is eyes still on his initial position - so his speed is great enough to take a human by surprise/also when the youma attack he is with the back towards him but by the time the youmas fingers reach him is already in deffensive position).

mosmos
2008-06-04, 03:17
No way that Raki is human any longer.He was at least in pair with the youma in speed even after this releases his yoki.Also is hair and eyes seem that of a claymore.In fact he deed at least if not better than pre-Rabona Clare.(when he charge at the youma one of villagers has is eyes still on his initial position - so his speed is great enough to take a human by surprise/also when the youma attack he is with the back towards him but by the time the youmas fingers reach him is already in deffensive position).

I also think Raki might not be a human anymore...he might be a male claymor that cannot sense youki..

chibamonster
2008-06-04, 03:17
Did it seem to anyone else that the armor sliding down raki's forearm was a little strange? It almost seemed to telescope down there for some reason. The top shoulder blade part looks like it is securely attached to Raki's arm and chest plate. It certainly does not seem like a sliding mechanism by any means. Also the interlocking plates seem much smaller than the ones on his upper body. What is the deal with the armor and why did it not just stay on his forearm at the end of the battle?

There must be a reason because a few panels are completely dedicated to this new armor and its abilities. It reminds me of the falcon sword that the bandit leader had when he "fought" against Teresa. This armor seems very special for some reason. As to whether or not Raki is completely human still we do not know. He does not seem to have Claymore eyes though. Claymores have a bit of white circling their pupil when they are drawn up close and in Raki's close up his eyes do not have that.

Gooral
2008-06-04, 03:24
Just because he defeated 1 youma doesn't mean he's no longer human. I bet Galk or Cid could do the same without any problems and as I see it Raki is a hybrid in a way, but a human hybrid of Galk's strength and Cid's agility. Some humans aren't that weak you know :P. Also his armor helped him a bit, notice that he didn't manage to dodge youma's attack but only deflected it with his plated arm.

Ancient Soul
2008-06-04, 03:29
Raki was faster than the human eye can cath (even the youma and one of the villagers look surprised).Also to many effects to imply speed i think.Also he use his sword to ease.I don't think that Galk can use a claymore very easy (he barely throwed Clare's claymore back in Rabona incident.

I think Raki is under pills (because he know what yoki make to claymores /thus he has
conections with The ORG the only one who made them/unless Isley teach him how to make them (good chances that this to be true)) and the girl (like other postet already) has something from Miata sixth sense.I think Raki hair is blonde/silver like Claymores.

About armour.Yes it seem to have the same mechanism like that falcon sword.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 03:37
I don't think Raki would choose to be a Claymore. He did see what Clare had to deal with.

Most probably, it's Isley's brand of training.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 03:38
Raki was faster than the human eye can cath (even the youma and one of the villagers look surprised).Also to many effects to imply speed i think.Also he use his sword to ease.I don't think that Galk can use a claymore very easy (he barely throwed Clare's claymore back in Rabona incident.

I think Raki is under pills (because he know what yoki make to claymores /thus he has
conections with The ORG the only one who made them/unless Isley teach him how to make them (good chances that this to be true)) and the girl (like other postet already) has something from Miata sixth sense.I think Raki hair is blonde/silver like Claymores.

About armour.Yes it seem to have the same mechanism like that falcon sword.

well not sure if its just fan images or not, but the eyes certainly resemble a half yoma's rather than his human eyes (though could be just shading) but i don't think the villagers would say "a claymore" for nothing, he must have silver eyes or some other hint that makes them believe his not human

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 03:42
Hmmm... how about Isley using part of his flesh to infuse Raki? The reduced yoma parts meant that Raki won't become him all over again, and yet he still gets some help, as well as understand how Claymores feel (although on a reduced scale).

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 03:45
Hmmm... how about Isley using part of his flesh to infuse Raki? The reduced yoma parts meant that Raki won't become him all over again, and yet he still gets some help, as well as understand how Claymores feel (although on a reduced scale).

while possible, are they able to give flesh if the awakened being in question is still alive? well we don't even know the proper procedure but theres a chance too

Gooral
2008-06-04, 03:46
(...) i don't think the villagers would say "a claymore" for nothing, he must have silver eyes or some other hint that makes them believe his not human
It wasn't "a claymore" but "claymore?", meaning they jumped to a conclusion that only claymore could localize and defeat youma. We don't even know if they meant Raki or his companion.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 03:49
It wasn't "a claymore" but "claymore?", meaning they jumped to a conclusion that only claymore could localize and defeat youma. We don't even know if they meant Raki or his companion.

well we know which one had the big ass sword atleast

chibamonster
2008-06-04, 03:49
Maybe they called Raki a claymore because he is carrying A FREAKING HUGE DOUBLE HANDED SWORD. Who else walks around with something like that? I mean we do not even see his eyes until the thing is dead. Even in this chapter look at the close up of Miria's eyes and the close up of Raki's eyes and you will see the white ring I am talking about that distinguishes a claymore. It is not there all the time but it is in the close ups.

And I think Raki would become a claymore to protect Clare. Just like Clare became one to avenge Teresa knowing full well how awful the claymore world could be. She saw awakenings, death squads, executions, had been tortured by youma, saw Teresa's scar, felt the pain of working alone and on and on. That being said the question is if Raki had that opportunity or not. I think he would say yes, but the chance may not have arisen. We will have to wait, yet again.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 03:50
I can just imagine Isley cutting off a piece of himself, and using it in the ritual to change Raki.

I've been thinking that unlike Riful, Isley wants peace, i.e. to be left alone. I believe that he became leader to Rigualdo and his bunch of ABs with a bit of unwillingness.(Also explains why once he found Raki and Priscilla, he didn't wait to rid himself of the other ABs. Rigualdo's death was... unexpected.)

mosmos
2008-06-04, 03:57
And I think Raki would become a claymore to protect Clare. Just like Clare became one to avenge Teresa knowing full well how awful the claymore world could be. She saw awakenings, death squads, executions, had been tortured by youma, saw Teresa's scar, felt the pain of working alone and on and on. That being said the question is if Raki had that opportunity or not. I think he would say yes, but the chance may not have arisen. We will have to wait, yet again.


Yes.. good point.
And isn't it more fun if Raki is not human anymore?
Wait until he awkens... oh then I wonder how clare can take it.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 03:58
Yes.. good point.
And isn't it more fun if Raki is not human anymore?
Wait until he awkens... oh then I wonder how clare can take it.

Isley must of implemented some anti-awakeneing thing in Raki if thats the case, since Isley wants Raki's loyalty so Priscilla is loyal to Isley. Awakened beings are the type to fight for domination, not a good relationship with Isley if that happened.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 04:01
Yes.. good point.
And isn't it more fun if Raki is not human anymore?
Wait until he awkens... oh then I wonder how clare can take it.

I think Raki's sensible enough NOT to put Clare through that. I believe he's like Clarice, with the exception of being more confident (and the training). Don't think he can awaken.

Gooral
2008-06-04, 04:10
I don't think Isley had measures to make him one, otherwise he could make his own army of AB long before he met Priscilla. Even if he did, wouldn't Raki find it strange that some random guy would know sth like that? After the process he could sense their aura's too, he would certainly notice they don't have silver eyes yet they emit youki, just like AB he met. At least Isley could think it could come to that and I don't know if he would be willing to change his charming scent in front of Priscilla. What's more, Raki would have to risk becoming a monster without knowing if he would ever met with Clare...
Certainly, Raki as a claymore would allow him to shine, would that really be more fun? I'm not so sure about that. If I wanted male protagonist I would read Berserk again. Not to mention it would be quite predictable. Judging by what I've seen so far nothing indicates he's a claymore though.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 04:16
Well, does the amount of yoma mixed in have different effects? If it does, then we're on to something. If it doesn't,... well...

rukori
2008-06-04, 05:10
Hey, your praying works man...

Gods of Rabona, please bless us with the scanlation at onemanga now..

Dude, I went to sleep right after writing this, so those prayers are pretty much useless..

chibamonster
2008-06-04, 05:23
Hmm. Obviously sleeping was what broke your praying technique. Now I blame you that I have no scans rukori. :upset: Until then I think I managed to translate some of the Chinese although I am not confident in my abilities yet...

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb81/chibamonster/RakisHand.jpg

aapmens
2008-06-04, 05:30
wel bigest question now is what is raki stil human or claymore :confused:

chibamonster
2008-06-04, 05:38
From what I understand right now (which might change when I get a real raw to look at) Raki does not have claymore eyes. Raki does not sense youki. His hair is the right color (ie none but so is cids). Nothing but his strength would indicate that he is anything but human right now. And humans have done very well in some cases against these monsters (think Cid vs Agatha plan). 7 years of training may have given him lots of power. Raki may no longer be human but he does not appear to be a straight up Claymore.

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 05:57
From what I understand right now (which might change when I get a real raw to look at) Raki does not have claymore eyes. Raki does not sense youki. His hair is the right color (ie none but so is cids). Nothing but his strength would indicate that he is anything but human right now. And humans have done very well in some cases against these monsters (think Cid vs Agatha plan). 7 years of training may have given him lots of power. Raki may no longer be human but he does not appear to be a straight up Claymore.

while true, his speed is also an issue. Its faster than any humans were seen before, while it doesn't mean his not human just the same his as fast as a half yoma.

zato_1one
2008-06-04, 06:21
Raki is a strong human. I think he still can't compete with an ordinary Claymore but no doubt that he is better than Clarice. :p His speed is fast but still not fast enough to the point that it can't be seen. That Yoma can still dodge his slash. But I admit that his attack is certainly fast because that Yoma can't completely dodge it. For a qualify Claymore, that Yoma should be sliced in half from the first or second slash.

For your information, Claymore's armlet can defend Yoma's attack too. (Volumn 01 page 89)

ebrehe
2008-06-04, 06:21
"questions about scanlations or answers about scanlation are not allowed"

can i ask if there is anywhere that this questions allowed?

ebrehe
2008-06-04, 06:25
one may look like changed but it is all on surface imo.

we all know people are what they are. raki is da biggest and now maybe strongest craybaby ever.

zato_1one
2008-06-04, 06:32
"questions about scanlations or answers about scanlation are not allowed"

can i ask if there is anywhere that this questions allowed?

Every manga forum except Animesuki. lol

aryana
2008-06-04, 06:41
what if raki is a half DoD, the way his armor is made resembles image of the DoDs...
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/530/47502266tt9.th.png (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=47502266tt9.png)

MalakTawus
2008-06-04, 06:54
I think Raki is different from a normal claymore,but can a srong human be THIS strong?I don't think so....Some of you said that Cid and Galk are a good exemple for "strong humans",but Raki seems far stonger!It's not just that he is incredibly fast,he has THAT speed while using THAT sword,and he can easily use that sword with only one hand!!!Galk is strong but he absolutely can't fight this well!!!Are you really sure he is a normal human?
Btw,before time skip,when Raki asks Isley for training,Isley looks at Raki's eyes and tells him he could become strong(but only if he's ready to lose something....humanity?).....my point is,don't you think Isley was talking about becoming REALLY strong,not just a strong human?

KiNA
2008-06-04, 06:57
Raki would fall into Krillin's mould, strongest human ever, but falls when real enemy showed up.

aryana
2008-06-04, 07:02
well, raki doesnt seem to be neither a claymore, nor an AB, not even a human... so why not something related to a DoD?
besides, he had a very specific smell about him, that all yoma like it...

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 07:24
well, raki doesnt seem to be neither a claymore, nor an AB, not even a human... so why not something related to a DoD?
besides, he had a very specific smell about him, that all yoma like it...

while i don't disagree his not human , the smell was simply the smell of the south to Prisiclla, your thinking to much into that

Gooral
2008-06-04, 07:29
while i don't disagree his not human , the smell was simply the smell of the south to Prisiclla, your thinking to much into that
Smell of the south? You mean Raki doesn't perspire ? Or that he doesn't wash himself?

Goofus Maximus
2008-06-04, 07:33
Arguement- just to spice things up.

That little girl following Raki is definately Pricilla.
That girl can sense yoma ? - That's Pricilla
Small girl that sticks to Raki - That's Pricilla
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj161/jonovax/809.png

Do you really think Pricilla will allow another girl to come between her and Raki ?
No way.. She kills just like Psycho ....(Yagi sama, is that twisted. hehe)

That's what I was thinking. That girl is WAY more than any measly 3 feet, especially since Raki is a towering giant compared to all those average-sized villagers, and Priscilla was shorter than Raki when he WAS average-sized.

Edit: Also, about Raki's armor. I wonder where Easley is? Looks at Raki's armor. The only thing as tough as a Claymore sword is a AB's flesh. Looks at Raki's armor. AB's can transform to look like anything, or leave pieces of themselves (Easley's arrows and Duph's rods, for instance). I think Raki's armor is a part of Easley's awakened flesh, like his arrows. I bet Easley "made" that armor especially for Raki, then handed it over to Raki with the equivalent of "Here. I found this somewhere, and it looks like it'll fit you."

aryana
2008-06-04, 07:34
while i don't disagree his not human , the smell was simply the smell of the south to Prisiclla, your thinking to much into that

what about all the other yomas attacking raki? they also said that he is exceptionally delicious..

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 07:35
Smell of the south? You mean Raki doesn't perspire ? Or that he doesn't wash himself?

lol, well i swear it was mentioned somewhere that is what Priscilla smelt:p

Gooral
2008-06-04, 07:38
True, volume 10 p. 129 but it was just metaphor :P.
"Then you probably brought the warm scent of the south along with you and she liked it."

tunjee01
2008-06-04, 07:41
The girl could be miata's twin that escaped or something.

Awakened
2008-06-04, 07:44
Raki is not that tall, look at page 23. he is just a little taller than the wheels.

Ryuken
2008-06-04, 07:47
Raki is not that tall, look at page 23. he is just a little taller than the wheels.

I think you might have something there.:)

ergon
2008-06-04, 07:47
Raki's armor actually looks a bit Claymore-esque. It looks like Raphaela's the most I think. Her armor is a bit unique from the others, someone mentioned that it looked like an older design or something. Maybe his is part of a male Claymore uniform.

Funny, I never noticed before but Raph is pretty cute :) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5750/29sd8.jpg


edit: I think "Zaki" thought Raki was delicious cuz he was young and small. Like lamb...or veal or something.

Ryuken
2008-06-04, 07:51
Raki's armor actually looks a bit Claymore-esque. It looks like Raphaela's the most I think. Her armor is a bit unique from the others, someone mentioned that it looked like an older design or something. Maybe his is part of a male Claymore uniform.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5750/29sd8.jpg

Funny, I never noticed before but Raph is pretty cute :)

Yea! that amour looks very similar to Raph's amour. Maybe an extended version.:);)

KiNA
2008-06-04, 07:55
What if that armour was Isley's?

In short, that was the male Claymore's armour in the first place.

/me needs to read thread first next time *-*

Tevourious
2008-06-04, 07:58
Well after looking this over I was kinda dreading that Raki had been turned into a male Claymore via the flesh of Pris or Isley. Seeing his fight with the Youma I'm thinking thats not the case. Any Claymore would have dealt with a standard Youma far easier and quicker than that. That and since the girl on his shoulder pointed it out, means he can't sense Youma. I wish I could tell if his hair was bleached out like a Claymore :/...

I agree, that girl has to be Priss, She's short in her young form if you recall and Raki seems rather damn tall. 6ft 1 or 2 at most, keep in mind that generally the height for a TALL character in mangas Irvine Kinneas from FF for example looked huge but is only 6'1".

So long as Raki doesn't become some uber bad ass, on par with Clare or the other major Claymore's or worse still the ultimate weapon since he could become the next CLARE by getting Priss Chunks welded into him. BLARRFF

For some creepy reason I think Isely may be dead.... Dunno why
I agree though, that has to be his armor. It deflected a Youma attack. Which silly enough other Claymore's armor never seems to do. Those shoulder guards take a beating. Good thing that Claymore's wear them, the shoulders are obviously where a Claymore's weak point is. :P

aryana
2008-06-04, 08:14
well, if he's eyes are not silver, his hair is...
at least in this image:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8944/claymorescene080029chtao5.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=claymorescene080029chtao5.jpg)

MalakTawus
2008-06-04, 08:16
Thinking about it....i'm pretty confident that Raki and Claire will meet in front of the Claire and Teresa's statue,no?

evil_kenshin
2008-06-04, 08:23
Thinking about it....i'm pretty confident that Raki and Claire will meet in front of the Claire and Teresa's statue,no?

its possible, but then they won't meet for awhile then (Rabona doesn't believe in the Clare & Teresa religion)

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 08:31
What if that armour was Isley's?

In short, that was the male Claymore's armour in the first place.

/me needs to read thread first next time *-*

That's a very big possibility.

Well after looking this over I was kinda dreading that Raki had been turned into a male Claymore via the flesh of Pris or Isley. Seeing his fight with the Youma I'm thinking thats not the case. Any Claymore would have dealt with a standard Youma far easier and quicker than that. That and since the girl on his shoulder pointed it out, means he can't sense Youma. I wish I could tell if his hair was bleached out like a Claymore :/...

I agree, that girl has to be Priss, She's short in her young form if you recall and Raki seems rather damn tall. 6ft 1 or 2 at most, keep in mind that generally the height for a TALL character in mangas Irvine Kinneas from FF for example looked huge but is only 6'1".

So long as Raki doesn't become some uber bad ass, on par with Clare or the other major Claymore's or worse still the ultimate weapon since he could become the next CLARE by getting Priss Chunks welded into him. BLARRFF

For some creepy reason I think Isely may be dead.... Dunno why
I agree though, that has to be his armor. It deflected a Youma attack. Which silly enough other Claymore's armor never seems to do. Those shoulder guards take a beating. Good thing that Claymore's wear them, the shoulders are obviously where a Claymore's weak point is. :P

I'll say that Isley's out somewhere, chilling, and waiting for Raki to return after finishing what he (Raki) wants to do. Also, if Isley's more than a warrior (Hell, he could be a part-time alchemist who dabbles in stuff when he's still human.), he could turn Raki into something that's 90% human but 10% yoma. Maybe? I can't say for sure (THE!).

zato_1one
2008-06-04, 08:37
I agree though, that has to be his armor. It deflected a Youma attack. Which silly enough other Claymore's armor never seems to do. Those shoulder guards take a beating. Good thing that Claymore's wear them, the shoulders are obviously where a Claymore's weak point is. :P

It can. :cool: Check volumn 01 page 89.

Sageblink
2008-06-04, 08:40
while i don't disagree his not human , the smell was simply the smell of the south to Prisiclla, your thinking to much into that

Sorry to ask that (I'm already hearing "what-a-noob", but as english isn't my regular language...) but what is DoD ? :heh:

AB is for Awaken Being, right ?

myshka
2008-06-04, 08:49
Raki has to be human, he cant sense yoki, he uses both hands to wield his sword most of the time, and he has to rely on some funky armor to protect him. Also, that yoma was the weeniest one I've ever seen :)

dee32
2008-06-04, 08:51
Some how I think Raki is still a human. Isley, probly put Raki threw some very intense training. Isley probly taught Raki everything he knows about fighting, before they parted ways. The sword and armor being gifts from Isley. The Raki of now probly is just a human at peak human conditioning. The thing is now where are Isley and Priscilla? Are they even still on the continent? The little girl I hadn't figured out:

1) She could be Isley and Priscilla's child?
2) She could be Raki and Priscilla's child?
3) She could be a spy for the Org? If she is doubt she would be the Org new eye.
4) She could be a Yoma?
5) She could be just some little girl he found?
6) She could be a younger Priscilla? But then where's Isley.

In most of these cases except for 5, when Clare meets up with Raki, Clare would probly try to kill the little girl on sight. I just want July to get here faster.

yezhanquan
2008-06-04, 08:55
Some how I think Raki is still a human. Isley, probly put Raki threw some very intense training. Isley probly taught Raki everything he knows about fighting, before they parted ways. The sword and armor being gifts from Isley. The Raki of now probly is just a human at peak human conditioning. The thing is now where are Isley and Priscilla? Are they even still on the continent? The little girl I hadn't figured out:

1) She could be Isley and Priscilla's child?
2) She could be Raki and Priscilla's child?
3) She could be a spy for the Org? If she is doubt she would be the Org new eye.
4) She could be a Yoma?
5) She could be just some little girl he found?
6) She could be a younger Priscilla? But then where's Isley.

In most of these cases except for 5, when Clare meets up with Raki, Clare would probly try to kill the little girl on sight. I just want July to get here faster.

And Raki will block Clare's sword. Cue lots of talking.

aryana
2008-06-04, 09:05
Sorry to ask that (I'm already hearing "what-a-noob", but as english isn't my regular language...) but what is DoD ? :heh:

AB is for Awaken Being, right ?

DoD comes from Descendants of Dragons (DoD), or as later rectified - Dragon's kins. This was first mentioned in ch 79

Bikerider
2008-06-04, 09:05
7. She could be an awakened Rafaela reverting to a child form for her own sanity and safety.

MalakTawus
2008-06-04, 09:23
It would be strange(but not impossible) if Raki's armor was Isley's.It seems to be a better and "special" armor than the claymore's ones,so why would the org downgrade their armor?And don't tell me that they don't care because it's bullshit!It's true that thare are a lot of Claymore that the org doesn't care,but at least the special worriors should have a similar armor(better considering that passed a lot of years...).Conclusion:I don't think that armor was Isley's,i think it's something Isley (or the org?or someone we don't know?) made for Raki.

@Mishka:Raki doesn't use both hands to wield his sword most of the time(you should rewatch the raw)and he kills the youma using one hand WHILE JUMPING.No normal human could do it.Btw even claymores use both hands a lot of time(2hands=more strenght),it's not strange that he uses both,it's strange that he uses one!And with that speed!And if he is a normal human we have to accept that even if he was trained by Isley he would be bind by human limit(and 7 years of traning aren't a lot if you have those limits...)and doesn't seem so....If he really is a normal human he has the potential to be the strongest warrior ever if they turn him into a claymore....

Jonova
2008-06-04, 09:27
Raki would fall into Krillin's mould, strongest human ever, but falls when real enemy showed up.

I am going to agree with this, Raki is definitly still human and I think he will remain so until the end of the story. He pretty much represents the whole human race in this manga lol, he can't turn into hybird/AB.