Claymore Chapter 80

[zato_1one]

It looks like Raki held sword with both hand while he was approaching the yoma. But when he slashed, he used only one hand except for his second attack which he missed.

[Kinematics]

If someone wants to look back on the thread on swords, I think they gave specs on the size and weight of the sample claymore they used in one of their displays (promo for the anime), and it was something like 15 pounds. While no human can swing something like that around one-handed the way Claymores do (basicly treating it like a fencing sword), being able to hold it in one hand while using its momentum for most of the power, and in a short fight, is quite feasible.

I also disagree on the idea that he's moving faster (in general) than a human should be able to, though that's more difficult to pin down specifics on. In short, I'm currently convinced that he's still fully human.

[rukori]

In the second chapter Claire fought five yoma about the same level and won without a scratch, and back then she was the weakest, so my point is that Raki isn't that strong and he is surely a human. I was expecting him to grow to a level high enough to help Claire but against someone like agatha Raki will be completely useless... I think the whole point of the 7years seperation from Claire was for him to reach a level equal to AB more or less

[Jonova]

I think the whole point of the 7years seperation from Claire was for him to reach a level equal to AB more or less

That would make Claymore just like anyone other manga. I, for one, very happy about Raki remian as human.

[Vinak]

Raki tried to become useful to Clare....he almost accomplished this but is still weak and useless. especially to the current Clare. I guess he will come to this realization when he is reunited with Clare and start to cry like a little bitch again.

However, his sword and armor along with that little girl will become good plot devices.

[Cyclone]

DoD comes from Descendants of Dragons (DoD), or as later rectified - Dragon's kins. This was first mentioned in ch 79

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
This calls for risking the post from work.
There is no "Dragon's kin"! That is the bad translation.
"Descendants of Dragons" is the accurate translation. See the 79 thread for ergon's trasnlation of the phrase in question, or dig up 10sigh's version somewhere. But for God's sake, do NOT use blind's/Franky House's version!

[ox2]

Hey, your praying works man...

Gods of Rabona, please bless us with the scanlation at onemanga now..


amen to that....

[myshka]

If someone wants to look back on the thread on swords, I think they gave specs on the size and weight of the sample claymore they used in one of their displays (promo for the anime), and it was something like 15 pounds. While no human can swing something like that around one-handed the way Claymores do (basicly treating it like a fencing sword), being able to hold it in one hand while using its momentum for most of the power, and in a short fight, is quite feasible.

I also disagree on the idea that he's moving faster (in general) than a human should be able to, though that's more difficult to pin down specifics on. In short, I'm currently convinced that he's still fully human.

Well this is a manga after all, if we are going ot get all technical, then think of the Clare/Galk/Cid fight on the Rabona roofs in the early chapters. I dont htink it would be humanly possible for anyone to wear a full plate armor and a helmet and fight the way Cid did back then. Look at the last page of chapter 5, Cid should be falling backwards in that armor with that kind of footing. There was a good reason why knights always rode horses :)

Cid's sword is also pretty big + he always wears armor, so if Cid could fight Clare back than, when she was not that much stronger than an average yoma, why cant Raki take down one yome?

[AeroTT]

now everyone are focus on the little girl's identity. Is anyone have a guess of the guy who helps Miria doing reaserch of Org.

[myshka]

now everyone are focus on the little girl's identity. Is anyone have a guess of the guy who helps Miria doing reaserch of Org.


Well, first of all, are we even sure that it's a guy? Translation could be unreliable. But assuming that it is, in fact, one of the handlers or whoever in the organisation, maybe it's an infiltrator from the side of the humans that is alied with the DoDs? I mean, if this project has been going on for a hundred years, the opposition must know about it by now. So they probably would send someone to undermine the project?

[dee32]

Rubel maybe...or her handler Ermita

[Jonova]

Well, first of all, are we even sure that it's a guy? Translation could be unreliable. But assuming that it is, in fact, one of the handlers or whoever in the organisation, maybe it's an infiltrator from the side of the humans that is alied with the DoDs? I mean, if this project has been going on for a hundred years, the opposition must know about it by now. So they probably would send someone to undermine the project?

Yea, the gender of that person is undetermined, but it is unlikely for him/her to be some one we have never heard of imo.
Right now I am thinking of two possibilities: one outland spy disguised as MiB, or Rafaela.

[tenken627]

Sorry to ask that (I'm already hearing "what-a-noob", but as english isn't my regular language...) but what is DoD ? :heh:

AB is for Awaken Being, right ?

Yeah, I think we have some acronyms that might be hard for newcomers to follow.

DoD = Descendants of Dragons (that is the correct term, not Dragon Kin) DoDs refer to the monsters that the enemy of the Organization employs, and not the enemy themselves

AB= Awakened Being

AO = Abyssal One

MiB = Men in Black, a term that is used for the Organization members (Rubel, Ermita, Rimuto, etc) that are always dressed in black

G7 (G10) = Ghost 7 (Ghost 10) a term that is used for Claymores that do not follow the Organization orders (Clare, Miria, Helen, Deneve, Cynthia, Tabitha, Yuma) Ghost 10 includes Galatea, Clarice, Miata

Edit:

I think we may have to come up with a term for the Organization's enemy, at least temporarily until we learn more about them.

They are NOT the DoDs. The DoDs are monsters that the enemy has allied themselves with.

That is kind of like saying ABs are the MiBs when they are clearly not. ABs are beings that the MiBs tried to use in battle against their enemies.

I suggest using OE (Organization's Enemy) for now or something along those lines.

[dee32]

Do women work for the Org other than as warriors?

[myshka]

Yea, the gender of that person is undetermined, but it is unlikely for him/her to be some one we have never heard of imo.
Right now I am thinking of two possibilities: one outland spy disguised as MiB, or Rafaela.


Hmm Raphaela, maybe, but she was kind of in and out of the org for many years but she would certainly have an agenda against the org. Hope she's alive, she would probably join the ghosts :) They can make a special "Visually Challenged" division for her and Galatea to compliment the "Mentally Challenged" Miata's and Clarice's divistion :)

I'm so mean I know...

[tenken627]

Do women work for the Org other than as warriors?

So far, there hasn't been any women shown in the Organization as anything else besides Claymores, or any alludes to that.

We know of at least 3 classes in the Org:

Council Members - the ones sitting on the chairs making the decisions (Rimuto)

Handlers - the one that does most of the work running around for the council (Rubel, Orsay, Ermita, Rado)

Trainers - the ones that take care of trainees (the guy who brought Teresa back to the Organization after she ran away, the guy who looked after Clare's final test)

The Organization probably employs spies in many towns and villages across the continent, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are women spies.

[Sleepy Speculator]

lol i go for a couple of days and when i come back i find all this interesting stuff and new people sucked into the story of claymore... haha

Okay the new big arguments...

Is Raki still human?
Who is Miria's informer?
Who is the mysterious little girl?

Kah! this is gonna take some time and Clarice has been discarded from the story, i will say this, why would Raki trade away his trusty, sturdy, present sword from Galk for that monstrously big blade which he has no problems wielding single handedly if he wasn't altered in some way, and ditto for the why wear armor which has no breastplate but does have the pauldrons and partial skirt, and metal boots, could it look anymore like claymore armor for a guy...? Couple with the choice of i'll wear a cloak to hide my hair colour, this makes it seem like Raki has been relying on someone else's cooking other than his own, i mean christ what have they been feeding him... on second thoughts i don't want to know.

[tenken627]

I don't think Raki's armor is that of an old male Claymore's armor.

If you look at the male Claymore on page 1 of Chapter 80, it looks nothing like Raki's armor. That armor has different pauldrons, and it has long thigh high greaves (leg armor).

The armor looks nothing like Raki's armor. If male Claymore armor was standard (like female armor), then Raki's armor was never worn by a male Claymore.

I am leaning towards Raki picking up entirely new armor and sword, as neither of them look like what a Claymore would use.

[Vinak]

why would any Claymore wear armor to begin with? unless of course the armor is made out of the same material as the sword....any armor would just serve as ornamental otherwise. i mean its useless against ab's and some youma. If you are at the skill level to be taking on AB's than you wouldn't be relying on armor to keep you safe anyways.

[Goofus Maximus]

I still posit that Raki's armor may be a crafting of Isley's Awakened flesh, just like Isley's arrows or Duph's rods. Thus it offers more protection from Yoma than regular armor...

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it! :D

[notme]

I still posit that Raki's armor may be a crafting of Isley's Awakened flesh, just like Isley's arrows or Duph's rods. Thus it offers more protection from Yoma than regular armor...

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it! :D
I really like this theory not only because it would give Raki added protection, but also because it would mean that Isley and Priscilla would most probably be able to sense Raki's movements. They could let Raki go off and Priscilla could be assured that Raki was safe just by sensing for his armor.

On the other hand though, Dauf's rods already showed that Claymore (and probably yoma as well) would be able to sense the yoki in material created from yoma, so it might make Raki an even bigger target.

[Awakened]

I still posit that Raki's armor may be a crafting of Isley's Awakened flesh, just like Isley's arrows or Duph's rods. Thus it offers more protection from Yoma than regular armor...

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it! :D

I realy like that idea. If its true, is the armor alive (liled with yoki that Raki can control), or is it just skin?

[OliverTwist]

Would be a pretty funny twist if that little girl on Raki's shoulder is Riful. :D

[Enara]

Lol OliverTwist. but riful looks about 10 to 12

[chibamonster]

I like the idea of the armor being alive. I mean it can move. It was like the stuff on his forearm arm deployed to block the attack of the yoma. It could have been his shoulder guard that slid down. For me it really seemed from the drawing and sound effect that it just wrapped down over his arm. If the armor is not alive I think it is quite a bit more advanced than any armor we have seen so far. It might even be able to deploy to cover most of his body... maybe (thinking berserker armor).

And this is the first time we see post time skip Raki; the next fights we see him in will be no where near this easy. We have not seen his actual fighting ability put to the test and I am sure he is much stronger than only being able to kill 1 youma. Remember Clare's first appearance when Raki met her? She killed a single youma and not even in a single hit. Sure she came through the ceiling rafters and cracked the floor with her sword, but she entirely missed her first attack. Her next attack grazed the youma, but it was not until her third attack that she took the yoma's arm. Her eyes went gold before she killed the thing.

Raki is strong. Maybe stronger than Clare was when we first met her. Maybe stronger than Clarice. If he is human I do not think he can move as fast as Claymores (like Clarice being able to jump up buildings or Clare being able to go through roofs) but from training is much more dangerous with the skills he does have. Then again he may not be entirely human. Maybe with the thousands of youma he has killed and after being soaked in their blood for so long he is starting to develop super natural powers... :p

[tenken627]

I wouldn't mind it either if the armor and sword are alive, or very technologically or "magically" advanced. That could give him all the power of a Claymore without being a Claymore itself.

More like a Batman or Ironman who are immensely powerful but rely on quick thought, high human physical attributes, and gadgets instead of a Superman or a Spiderman.

[Jonova]

I wouldn't mind it either if the armor and sword are alive, or very technologically or "magically" advanced. That could give him all the power of a Claymore without being a Claymore itself.

More like a Batman or Ironman who are immensely powerful but rely on quick thought, high human physical attributes, and gadgets instead of a Superman or a Spiderman.


It is definitely interesting idea that the armor being alive, but I don't think it suits the Claymore world so well, there's nothing remotely close to that before.
But then again, after the last 2 chapters, everything and anything is possible now :eyespin:

[tenken627]

It is definitely interesting idea that the armor being alive, but I don't think it suits the Claymore world so well, there's nothing remotely close to that before.
But then again, after the last 2 chapters, everything and anything is possible now :eyespin:

I don't truly think so either, but I wouldn't mind it.

As much as people would like to think that they are parts of Isley's body, I just don't see it. And Isley probably doesn't know how to create them either. Changing parts of his body is one thing, crafting equipment for another person to wear out of your own body is another.

I still think that the armor and sword both come from the other continent. I don't know if Raki traveled there, or if he found them on the Claymore continent. It's just so alien from anything we've seen so far.

We know that Claymore swords come from the other continent and that the material to make those swords are not found on the Claymore continent. We know that the Organization obtains new swords from the other continent for each new Claymore that graduates.

That means that there must be people on the other continent who specializes in making weapons and/or armor using this "adamantium" material.

[notme]

Dauf's rods were alive.

Also, if Raki's armor is "alive" then Riful's "interesting thing" could be Raki and her use for a youki manipulator could be to use Raki's own armor against him to hold him hostage and use that opportunity to remove Priscilla from a fight between Isley and Riful (thus "evening the battlefield" as Riful said).

[tenken627]

Dauf's rods were alive.


But could Dauf puke out a full set of armor? :heh:

[notme]

Dauf can't make any weapon or armor he wants like Isley can.

A shield, a sword, a bow and arrow, Isley can create anything he chooses.

[tenken627]

Dauf can't make any weapon or armor he wants like Isley can.

A shield, a sword, a bow and arrow, Isley can create anything he chooses.

And yet, the only thing that looks detachable are arrows, much like Dauf's rods.

The shield, axe, sword and bow are all part of his body. He can transform his arms and hands into weapons, but they are still attached to him.

[chibamonster]

We have not seen moving armor before, so there is a lot to speculate about. We certainly have never seen any armor that humans wear protect them from Youma much. It is interesting to think it is forged from an AB's skin. Although we have yet to see an AB with metal skin and from appearances Raki's armor seems to be metal.

I love the analogy of Iron man and Batman to Raki. I always like characters that win because they solve problems despite their weaknesses more than ones that are just stronger than everyone else. Claymore handles power ups for characters really well though because there is so much loss and sacrifice at each step of the way. Raki's armor could also be something like the Mandalorian armor used to hunt Jedi's; specially crafted to battle monsters humans should not be able to battle. :D Maybe it is MiB hunting armor...

And I do think we have seen some evidence of technologically advanced weapons. Namely the Falcon sword the bandit guy had. That was pretty nifty and much more advanced than just a slab of metal. I wonder where he got it. As for Raki I think he certainly would abandon being human for strength if the option presented itself.

[notme]

What makes you think that he can't detach other things? Having only arrows be able to detach seems a bit arbitrary.

[tenken627]

What makes you think that he can't detach other things? Having only arrows be able to detach seems a bit arbitrary.

Well, there is no proof, but if you look at the drawings, they all seem part of his body.

Look at the axe. It's where his hand should be, so that suggests that his actual hand turned into the axe. If it was detachable, why not just create an axe and use your hand to wield it?

Same as the bow. The bow replaces his whole arm. I am sure if you cut off the bow, you would most likely cut off that whole arm as well.

I actually think it would be really cool if Raki's armor came from Isley's body. I just think it's unlikely.

[notme]

If Isley were merely to make a weapon and then grab it then he would lose his ability to change his weapon to match the situation.

Let's say that Isley did make his whole arm into a sword though, what would happen if it were cut off?

[snip]

This picture shows that Isley's lance remained as it was after it was cut off, so even if Isley were forced to actually sever a bit of himself off he could do so. And Raki's sword and armor would only be a minuscule amount of his total mass in his awakened from, so he could do it without Raki learning about it.

[tenken627]

If Isley were merely to make a weapon and then grab it then he would lose his ability to change his weapon to match the situation.

Let's say that Isley did make his whole arm into a sword though, what would happen if it were cut off?

[snip]This picture shows that Isley's lance remained as it was after it was cut off, so even if Isley were forced to actually sever a bit of himself off he could do so. And Raki's sword and armor would only be a minuscule amount of his total mass in his awakened from, so he could do it without Raki learning about it.

Do you mean the pieces breaking off? I don't see a full lance in that picture.

If your talking about the pieces, it wasn't just the lance, but it was the right side of his torso as well. Isley doesn't have an arm anymore where the lance used to be.

I suppose Isley could regenerate after intentionally cutting off a part of his body (that would make him a defensive Claymore in the past?), but that idea just sounds tacky.

Like a defensive Claymore who would keep cutting off her own arm and regrow it, so that she can give to all offensive one-armed Claymores an arm and basically become a one woman arm bank.

Honestly the only evidence that the armor is possibly alive is that a part of it moves from Raki's upper arm to his forearm. That's it. Nothing else. There are other things that could explain that without it being alive. It could be spring activated for all we know.

Considering the evidence, what is more likely? The armor is alive or that Isley's weapons are an attached part of him?

[notme]

No, the lance is not whole, but each part of the lance is still as it was when it was cut off. That means that a part of him that is removed would not become a hunk of flesh but would instead keep the attributes it had before it was severed.

Offensive ABs can regenerate too. Dauf, Rigaldo, and even Isley himself (when Priscilla destroyed half his body) have all regenerated.

[tenken627]

No, the lance is not whole, but each part of the lance is still as it was when it was cut off. That means that a part of him that is removed would not become a hunk of flesh but would instead keep the attributes it had before it was severed.

Offensive ABs can regenerate too. Dauf, Rigaldo, and even Isley himself (when Priscilla destroyed half his body) have all regenerated.

So you were expecting the lance to automatically turn back into an arm? What about the part of his torso that was blown off as well? Do they look different?

Actually, Isley did regenerate, but not quickly like a former defensive Claymore could. It sounds like while regeneration is possible, it probably takes a long time. Helen stated that since Rigaldo used to be an offensive type, he can not regenerate quickly even as an AB.

Riful says that since Dauf is so strong in terms of attack, it takes forever for him to regrow and heal.

[Awakened]

There is a good chance that Isley made the armor out of his body for Raki. We know that Isley arrows find their target on their own as soon as he lets them go. This tells me that Yoki can survive outside of the host, for how long? I have no idea. But if he attaches his yoki filed armor to Raki, the armor filed yoki might be able to survive as long as Raki is alive.

The armor does not have to be metal. If the armor is felled with yoki, it can give Raki a strength boost that is otherwise not humanly possible. Priscilla can also give Raki some of her yoki to make the armor extra strong.

If it’s alive Raki might have to pay a price for having it. Maybe the longer he uses it the more it becomes part of him.

[tenken627]

There is a good chance that Isley made the armor out of his body for Raki. We know that Isley arrows find their target on their own as soon as he lets them go. This tells me that Yoki can survive outside of the host, for how long? I have no idea. But if he attaches his yoki filed armor to Raki, the armor filed yoki might be able to survive as long as Raki is alive.

The armor does not have to be metal. If the armor is felled with yoki, it can give Raki a strength boost that is otherwise not humanly possible. Priscilla can also give Raki some of her yoki to make the armor extra strong.

If it’s alive Raki might have to pay a price for having it. Maybe the longer he uses it the more it becomes part of him.

What evidence do you have that the armor is alive? Or that it's not metal?

[chibamonster]

I never thought that Isley forming Raki's armor from his own flesh would be the debate of choice :D. Although once these things get started there is no stopping them...

I think it is fascinating that the girl with Raki can sense youma. Raki knows from his time with Claymores that this is only possible to them and also that youma can sense claymores. He probably knows more about Claymores and youma than just about any other human in the world. He must know this girl is something very different. He relies on her ability. I think it would be awesome if it was Priscilla although who knows what she would eat that would not piss off Guts-Raki.

[notme]

I doubt it is such a symbiotic/parasitic relationship Awakened. Though enhancing Raki's strength using yoki might be possible. The fact that Cynthia was able to aid Galatea in healing shows that yoki can be used on others, so maybe Priscilla could have enhanced Raki's regen/strength/speed through yoki manipulation (Priscilla actually had great yoki Sensing, the same as Galatea even).

[Awakened]

What evidence do you have that the armor is alive? Or that it's not metal?

After seeing Raki use his armor to block the yoma attack, I went back and look to see how he did it. I could not find anything showing how it’s possible for his armor to move.
1) The size of the armor changed. The ones on his shoulders are much bigger than the ones he used to block the attack. How is that possible?

2) A mechanical device that will allow his armor to move like that must be realy complex. He has to be able to move them from any position. Looking at his armor they is no evidence that he has a complicated mechanical system attach to them.

3) He is really strong for a human. Having a living yoki armor explane allot.

[Jonova]

I doubt it is such a symbiotic/parasitic relationship Awakened. Though enhancing Raki's strength using yoki might be possible. The fact that Cynthia was able to aid Galatea in healing shows that yoki can be used on others, so maybe Priscilla could have enhanced Raki's regen/strength/speed through yoki manipulation (Priscilla actually had great yoki Sensing, the same as Galatea even).

That's different tho, Cynthia was manipulating Galatea's yoki to help her heal. If there was no yoki to become with, theres nothing to manipulate.

[Awakened]

That's different tho, Cynthia was manipulating Galatea's yoki to help her heal. If there was no yoki to become with, theres nothing to manipulate.

If Isley gives Raki a yoki filed armor, then there is yoki to manipulate. The armor might be able to heal itself by feading on Raki's body.

[Awakened]

Isley told Raki that there is a price to pay for getting stronger. Raki is Isley pet project, he would not train Raki for years just so Raki can die from the first fatal hit he gets from a yoma.

We know that Isley is into armor, his awakened state is like a night. What better way to protect Isley junior (Raki), than to give him his own live armor.

Raki having a yoki filed armor suit opens allot of possibilities for his power-ups.

[tenken627]

After seeing Raki use his armor to block the yoma attack, I went back and look to see how he did it. I could not find anything showing how it’s possible for his armor to move.
1) The size of the armor changed. The ones on his shoulders are much bigger than the ones he used to block the attack. How is that possible?

2) A mechanical device that will allow his armor to move like that must be realy complex. He has to be able to move them from any position. Looking at his armor they is no evidence that he has a complicated mechanical system attach to them.

3) He is really strong for a human. Having a living yoki armor explane allot.

Honestly, the reason why I ask is because people seem to take the scene where the armor piece moves and are running away with the idea that the armor is alive. There just isn't much evidence to support it. At least not yet. That's the only basis for your argument so far.

The size differences is an issue with Raki's drawing as a whole, or does he really have a gigantic huge left hand?

The armor doesn't have to mechanical, it could have some type of "magic" to it. Yomas aren't the only non-humans in the world, as there are DoDs and MiBs as well as OEs (Org Enemies), who have their own special abilities.

[evil_kenshin]

Honestly, the reason why I ask is because people seem to take the scene where the armor piece moves and are running away with the idea that the armor is alive. There just isn't much evidence to support it. At least not yet. That's the only basis for your argument so far.

The size differences is an issue with Raki's drawing as a whole, or does he really have a gigantic huge left hand?

The armor doesn't have to mechanical, it could have some type of "magic" to it. Yomas aren't the only non-humans in the world, as there are DoDs and MiBs as well as OEs (Org Enemies), who have their own special abilities.

on top of that, who says theres ANY special abilities due to the armor. Were all speculating the armor is responsible for Raki's abilities but thats all this is, speculation lol

[yezhanquan]

The usual drill: Wait for July. Honestly, I don't even know why I let the sensei torture me like this.

[chibamonster]

I just love that the armor can telescope or slide to defend different parts of his body. That is pretty cool. It would have been really helpful for other characters in their fights as well. This is the first time we have seen armor used defensively like this. I mean there was nothing on his arm a moment before the youma attacked. I would love it if the armor could telescope over most of his body but we will have to wait and see... I am also interested in Raki's sword. It seems it also is designed just for killing youma and may be even bigger than a claymore. A well trained guy with special armor can work all sorts of magic in manga...http://moetron.com/mystuff/ps2berserk_re42.jpg
Hey look it is Raki riding on Awakened Clare's back...

[Cyclone]

It never says that though. All Cynthia says is that she can "enhance her healing and regenerating abilities."

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Increase strength come from the continual breaking down and healing of muscle tissue, so if Priscilla could enhance Raki's healing abilities he should be able to grow much stronger than a normal person.

Oh god. Not again!
Please refrain from quoting Franky House translations. The version they released is a translation from a chinese translation from japanese. In the process MANY MANY mistakes were made. Or do you seriously believe Galatea has a wrist injury?

Galatea actually says:
ほ。。。妖気を同調して修復と再生を助けるのか。。。
meaning:
"Oh? By aligning your youki you can help in repairing and regenerating?"

People, Please PLEASE, when in doubt, quote the 10sigh version if you can't read japanese, ok?

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As for Raki's armor... uhm... I hate to be a wet blanket, but...

It's not so advanced he can't go to a blacksmith shop and find it. It's just a couple pieces of sliding metal. The only piece of the magic we haven't seen is the release mechanism, but that could be something simple like a string and spring.

I'm just imagining Raki getting his armor...

Raki walks into a armor shop with Isley...
Isley leans over the counter, put one of his hands casually below the counter and whispers something into the blacksmith's ear...
The blacksmith turns pale and starts sweating heavily...
The blacksmith glances down at the hand behind the counter and turns even paler...
Isley snaps back with a large smile on his face and turns to Raki:
"Help yourself to whichever gear you like Raki. The Blacksmith here is an old friend of mine and owes me a favor. He said we don't even have to pay!"

[clarakiss~]

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As for Raki's armor... uhm... I hate to be a wet blanket, but...

It's not so advanced he can't go to a blacksmith shop and find it. It's just a couple pieces of sliding metal. The only piece of the magic we haven't seen is the release mechanism, but that could be something simple like a string and spring.

I'm just imagining Raki getting his armor...

Raki walks into a armor shop with Isley...
Isley leans over the counter, put one of his hands casually below the counter and whispers something into the blacksmith's ear...
The blacksmith turns pale and starts sweating heavily...
The blacksmith glances down at the hand behind the counter and turns even paler...
Isley snaps back with a large smile on his face and turns to Raki:
"Help yourself to whichever gear you like Raki. The Blacksmith here is an old friend of mine and owes me a favor. He said we don't even have to pay!"

*laughs* i like your way of thinking... short and simple :p now that explains the armor... moving on.

[zato_1one]

I suggest you should delete that link or else NSW will awaken.

[chibamonster]

I am curious why the armor was shown to do what it does (whether it is slide, telescope, or grows as others say it might). I mean why not just wear armor on the forearms as well if that is where Raki blocks things with? Deploying some sliding armor over his body as opposed to just leaning a few more degrees to take it with his shoulder seems like a bit of work. If it slides it has a pretty nifty mechanism. If it telescopes, why not just wear it all over the arms all the time? Raki's armor seems special, especially because it seems that the part on his forearm was gone the next time we see it.

Maybe it is just like the falcon sword but for armor? Who knows...

[tenken627]

Raki walks into a armor shop with Isley...
Isley leans over the counter, put one of his hands casually below the counter and whispers something into the blacksmith's ear...
The blacksmith turns pale and starts sweating heavily...
The blacksmith glances down at the hand behind the counter and turns even paler...
Isley snaps back with a large smile on his face and turns to Raki:
"Help yourself to whichever gear you like Raki. The Blacksmith here is an old friend of mine and owes me a favor. He said we don't even have to pay!"

Maybe Isley grew the armor out of his body and he cut it off?

"Here you go Raki, metal shoes fresh right out of my thigh! Oh wait, you need shoulder plates too? Those come straight from the bosom!"

[myshka]

I cant wait for Clare and Raki to meet :) I hope there wont be 50000 chapters in between. But I do know that the meeting will occur on the very last page of that chapter, just because mangaka love to torture us :)

[chibamonster]

@Tenken: Isley can only say things like that if he has a relationship with Raki like Gai sensei has a relationship with Rock Lee from Naruto. Then I have no complaints about the theory at all. Actually that is how I am imagining their training going right now. "Raki is a genius of hard work!"
or even better when Raki is fighting against Raphaela with Isley watching "But Isley, you said I could not use that technique unless a lot of important people were in danger!" "It's okay Raki! You can use it this time and it won't count!" Galatea then says, "Weights? What primitive training. How can taking off those weights do anything to..." :D!
Then finally, "Raki drank alcohol? Oh no..."

[clarakiss~]

I cant wait for Clare and Raki to meet :) I hope there wont be 50000 chapters in between. But I do know that the meeting will occur on the very last page of that chapter, just because mangaka love to torture us :)

two things will surely happen;

1. clare going to have a really hard time keeping the other girls away from raki.
2. raki is going to have a hard time keeping clare away from him. lol :p

[Cyclone]

I am curious why the armor was shown to do what it does (whether it is slide, telescope, or grows as others say it might). I mean why not just wear armor on the forearms as well if that is where Raki blocks things with? Deploying some sliding armor over his body as opposed to just leaning a few more degrees to take it with his shoulder seems like a bit of work. If it slides it has a pretty nifty mechanism. If it telescopes, why not just wear it all over the arms all the time? Raki's armor seems special, especially because it seems that the part on his forearm was gone the next time we see it.

Maybe it is just like the falcon sword but for armor? Who knows...

Looks to me like it telescopes out of the metal part on his forearm near the elbow. See his left arm on pages 30-31. I figure there are several layers of that metal piece there and they can telescope down to his wrist to form the armor we saw.

I guess the theory behind doing it that way is to improve weight distribution to improve endurance or something. But hey - Raki just wants it because it looks cool - can't really blame him. Probably thinks he can impress Clare with it... that lousy... uhm... I digress.

[tenken627]

@Tenken: Isley can only say things like that if he has a relationship with Raki like Gai sensei has a relationship with Rock Lee from Naruto. Then I have no complaints about the theory at all. Actually that is how I am imagining their training going right now. "Raki is a genius of hard work!"
or even better when Raki is fighting against Raphaela with Isley watching "But Isley, you said I could not use that technique unless a lot of important people were in danger!" "It's okay Raki! You can use it this time and it won't count!" Galatea then says, "Weights? What primitive training. How can taking off those weights do anything to..." :D!
Then finally, "Raki drank alcohol? Oh no..."

Haha, I actually loled imagining Raki + Isley training like Maito Gai + Rock Lee

Team Isley!

Team Isley Nice Guy Pose!

[notme]

Oh god. Not again!
Please refrain from quoting Franky House translations. The version they released is a translation from a chinese translation from japanese. In the process MANY MANY mistakes were made. Or do you seriously believe Galatea has a wrist injury?

Galatea actually says:
ほ。。。妖気を同調して修復と再生を助けるのか。。。
meaning:
"Oh? By aligning your youki you can help in repairing and regenerating?"

People, Please PLEASE, when in doubt, quote the 10sigh version if you can't read japanese, ok?
Ok, that quote you have still doesn't say that yoki is needed by the person being healed, only that Cynthia aligns her yoki to aid in regeneration. Which is exactly what the page I linked to says...

[Ancient Soul]

About armour.

Remember nr. 9 Nina and his abilitie "Shadow Hunter" wich tracks opponents yoma aura with her blade.Maybe Raki is using his armour the same way like Nina his sword.

It seem like the armour is reacting to yoki and move towards the points of impact before
youmas fingers hit Raki.That will justify the fact that the bandit back then was confident that
with his sword can take a youma (if yoki act like a magnet for this material).Yoki has just to
many properties already.Is possible to react to magnetism either.So the armour "seem alive"
but is just reacting to yoki.If Raki will relise his yoki (if he has any) the armour maybe
will cover his entire body.Strange will be that the armour "feed" on yoki and mask him!
But i doubt that Isley can create something like that.

[tenken627]

About armour.

Remember nr. 9 Nina and his abilitie "Shadow Hunter" wich tracks opponents yoma aura with her blade.Maybe Raki is using his armour the same way like Nina his sword.

I'm not sure, and there really isn't that much discussion about Nina's Shadow Hunter attack. Is it the sword itself that tracks down yoma aura or Nina's sword arm using youki to track down other yoma energy?

I'm thinking it's more Nina herself using her arm to track down yoma energy instead of the sword.

If Raki's armor was able to track down yoma aura, wouldn't he be able to tell which one was the yoma without the little girl's help?

[Cyclone]

Ok, that quote you have still doesn't say that yoki is needed by the person being healed, only that Cynthia aligns her yoki to aid in regeneration. Which is exactly what the page I linked to says...

So how does one align youki to something/someone that doesn't have youki?

[tenken627]

As for Raki's armor... uhm... I hate to be a wet blanket, but...

It's not so advanced he can't go to a blacksmith shop and find it. It's just a couple pieces of sliding metal. The only piece of the magic we haven't seen is the release mechanism, but that could be something simple like a string and spring.


The difference is the metal itself. If it's from the same stuff as Claymore swords, it would be from the other continent.

Can regular blacksmiths shape Claymore metal? I'm not sure. If not, the armor must have come from the other continent. Maybe a specialist in that type of metal is needed.

[hell88]

two things will surely happen;

1. clare going to have a really hard time keeping the other girls away from raki.
2. raki is going to have a hard time keeping clare away from him. lol :p

You know, you could be right about that. XD

[Cyclone]

The difference is the metal itself. If it's from the same stuff as Claymore swords, it would be from the other continent.

Can regular blacksmiths shape Claymore metal? I'm not sure. If not, the armor must have come from the other continent. Maybe a specialist in that type of metal is needed.

Uhm, what makes you think it's Claymore metal? Did I miss something?

[Ancient Soul]

<tenken627...

Well swords and armors usually don't speak.Also the youma supressed his yoki and the armour reacted only slightly before Raki got hit (so very close range).Raki want to finish the job fast not searching all the town like Clare back then.I mean i don't see Raki asking everyone : please touch my armour, but maybe is possible to use it like that like a youma sensor (a very weak one).

Somehow i doubt that Isley give Raki such an advanced armour in the first place or that someone in the Island can create such things.If it was possible the people would have bagen to kill youmas by themselfs.

[Awakened]

Ok, i look at Raki blocking, and it looks like the armor did not come from his sholders. Its a stack of armor right below his sholder pards. page 21 has a good view.

Having armor move around is still not a good thing for fighting. if a sping breaks, you in trouble. Not only that, but you add more weight to the armor by adding all kind of contraptions.

[notme]

So how does one align youki to something/someone that doesn't have youki?
I don't rightly know. How does one align yoki in the first place?

[tenken627]

Uhm, what makes you think it's Claymore metal? Did I miss something?

We don't know if it's Claymore metal, but we've seen the "yoma finger tentacle attack" penetrate regular forms of armor like swiss cheese, including Galk's heavy breastplate.

Raki's armor may or may not be Claymore metal, but it is much much more hardier than Rabona guardsman armor, which means it'll probably need a specialist to work it.

<tenken627...

Well swords and armors usually don't speak.Also the youma supressed his yoki and the armour reacted only slightly before Raki got hit (so very close range).Raki want to finish the job fast not searching all the town like Clare back then.I mean i don't see Raki asking everyone : please touch my armour, but maybe is possible to use it like that like a youma sensor (a very weak one).

Somehow i doubt that Isley give Raki such an advanced armour in the first place or that someone in the Island can create such things.If it was possible the people would have bagen to kill youmas by themselfs.

I don't know as well. I think we may have to refrain from going to deep into the nature of the armor until we see more of it than just that one very small part. Probably until next month.

[Awakened]

Probably until next month.

lol, its always like that, that why we have to keep talking about the armor to hold us over.:D

[tenken627]

lol, its always like that, that why we have to keep talking about the armor to hold us over.:D

True True.

+ 1 Awakened.

[Cyclone]

I don't rightly know. How does one align yoki in the first place?

Well, I suppose no one knows with youki specifically - since it's fictional and all.
When I hear the word align though, I think 'synchronization' or 'matching' some frequency or something.
So when you talk about synchronizing with nothing... well... I really don't think that it would do all that much...

[notme]

Well, even if they synchronized Cynthia would still have to do something to project her yoki into Galatea in order to affect her regeneration. So, IMO, being able to project her yoki to increase someones healing abilities should not be outside the realm of possibility (though I admit that there is nothing to say that it is definitely possible either).

[tenken627]

Our only instances of aligning youki that I can remember is in 6 parts:

1) Alicia + Beth aligning their youki perfectly so that they can soul link.

2) Cynthia asking Galatea to align youki to help Galatea heal.

3) Galatea aligning her youki with Clare to bring her back from her youki limit.

4) Clare aligning her youki with Jean to bring her back from her youki limit.

5) Clare aligning her youki with Jean to bring herself back from her youki limit at Pieta.

6) Galatea aligning her youki with Dauf to alter his attacks.

Maybe someone else can think of another time.

In each instance, all parties have use of youki energy. While it may be possible to do so with a party with no youki energy, we haven't seen anything like it yet.

[Cyclone]

We don't know if it's Claymore metal, but we've seen the "yoma finger tentacle attack" penetrate regular forms of armor like swiss cheese, including Galk's heavy breastplate.

Raki's armor may or may not be Claymore metal, but it is much much more hardier than Rabona guardsman armor, which means it'll probably need a specialist to work it.

Clare deflects a regular youma's attack with hers in chapter 2, p89.

My guess is that it has the same properties as most anime/manga clothing. The tougher the character it's on, the more durable the fabric. It's how Goku could probably get hit by a nuke and not even have his hair ruffled, while poor Galk and Cid could both be wearing 30mm plate armor and attacks would still go through like it was tin foil. Who knows...

[Cyclone]

@tenken627
You forgot Galatea telling Clare to align with Riful so she could see her true power.

I still fail to see how you can match someone else's youki when that person doesn't have youki (and still be using youki yourself), but I wont argue the point further.

[Goofus Maximus]

There's also the AB at Pieta, who aligned his youki with Claymores to defeat them...

[tenken627]

Clare deflects a regular youma's attack with hers in chapter 2, p89.

My guess is that it has the same properties as most anime/manga clothing. The tougher the character it's on, the more durable the fabric. It's how Goku could probably get hit by a nuke and not even have his hair ruffled, while poor Galk and Cid could both be wearing 30mm plate armor and attacks would still go through like it was tin foil. Who knows...

Hmm, I didn't remember that part at all until you mentioned it.

You are right, she does block the deadly yoma tentacle finger attack with what looks like her wrist guard?

What likelihood do you see that a Claymore's armor is made from Claymore metal much like the sword? Not the entire outfit, but the metal parts such as the shoulder plates, wrist guards and such?

[notme]

Rigaldo tore through the shoulder guards like paper when he fought in the North, so they can't be made of the same material.

[Cyclone]

What likelihood do you see that a Claymore's armor is made from Claymore metal much like the sword? Not the entire outfit, but the metal parts such as the shoulder plates, wrist guards and such?

Not very good when you consider Ophelia in ch.36 p78... but I suppose anything's possible.

[myshka]

There's also the AB at Pieta, who aligned his youki with Claymores to defeat them...

I always thought this was an important point: yoki alignment can force an awakening or it can supress it. This is a very powerfull skill for a claymore, lots of clymores have it as thier specialty.

Also, obviously, Riful sucks at it, that's probably why she's seeking girls that can read/manipulate yoki.

I think this is the trick to defeating Alicia, a few of claymores or Abs interferring with soul link could do it. Maybe they can even supress her awakening so she's easier to deal with?

But I dont think the Org is going to bother with Riful or even Prisilla, they haven't yet, and Alicia/Beth are their only real "result" after a damn 100 years of research? They are not going to risk the twins in a needless battle.

[Cyclone]

Release day in Japan has once again come and gone, and yet there is still no japanese scan... Does anyone understand why this is? Don't the Japanese have pirates or something? Someone help me understand this please!

[chibamonster]

It blows my mind too that the chinese raws beat the Japanese ones every single month... I think it is funny what catches the forums attention with each new release. I did not even notice Raki's armor until someone mentioned it. For the time being I am imagining that Raki has some form of Mandalorian armor designed specially to fight inhuman monsters. But of course we do not even have a real raw to judge from yet...

[tenken627]

Rigaldo tore through the shoulder guards like paper when he fought in the North, so they can't be made of the same material.

Not very good when you consider Ophelia in ch.36 p78... but I suppose anything's possible.

Hmmm, you both are correct.

I dunno how Clare blocked that yoma attack with her wrist guard. Maybe the angle that the wrist guard was in caused the yoma attack deflect instead of penetrate *shrug*.

Or Rigaldo's and Irene's attacks are just that much stronger than the normal yoma.

Either way, their armor probably isn't made from Claymore metal.

[ergon]

It seems to be effective against yoma but can't hold up to ABs or claymores.

Maybe I'll go to the store today and pick up the Jump...but I'm moving soon, don't want to be carrying books around :p Maybe I'll just read the chapter, then buy a tankobon. to appease the gods, haha.

[Awakened]

She first blocked it with her sword, then used her hand. Its no the same as Raki.

[Taylor_Maclaurin]

I am curious why the armor was shown to do what it does (whether it is slide, telescope, or grows as others say it might). (...) If it telescopes, why not just wear it all over the arms all the time? (...)
Good question. Maybe it's made that way so his opponents would attack his arm, be distracted by it and give him a chance to counterattack while they still have their fingers elongated (and didn't have momentum to strike him with much energy anymore). (...) That will justify the fact that the bandit back then was confident that with his sword can take a youma (if yoki act like a magnet for this material). (...)
He didn't have confidence at locating youma though, probably he didn't fight many youma either, he was being cocky that's all. "Youma or claymore, when I see an enemy I cut him down", yeah right.

As for the armor being Isley's body part or "soaked" with youki , quite interesting idea, however I think it's misinterpretation. It's just an armor, more solid than average ones but still an armor. Maybe it was Isley's from the time he was still in the organization and he gave it to Raki since he didn't need it anymore. Isley was one of the first claymore's ever created, maybe at first MiB actually cared for their pupils and equipped them with proper gear. Or maybe he was born on the continent and was sent to fight with OE (good abbreviation tenken) but after awakening he preferred to flee to the island were he would have peace.

[yezhanquan]

Man, it's the beginning of June and already, we need the next chapter (81)?

[ebrehe]

for 81 i am definitely not going to depend on any random groups to scanlate.

i will do it myself! it will take less time. think about it, we have raws(scans-chinese), we have translations... just need to be put together thats all

[rukori]

The Chinese guys will crucify you... thay don't want people to mess with their scanlations and that's why no group does it...
But it will be great anyways, so good luck with that!

[ebrehe]

The Chinese guys will crucify you... thay don't want people to mess with their scanlations and that's why no group does it...
But it will be great anyways, so good luck with that!


ahaha : )
you just tell me place of scans and translations next time. after i finished i will send you first!

[ergon]

for 81 i am definitely not going to depend on any random groups to scanlate.

i will do it myself! it will take less time. think about it, we have raws(scans-chinese), we have translations... just need to be put together thats all

Thats probably why we can't post translations...half the materials needed to create piracy :p

Raki's telescoping wrist guards might be a waste of metal...but so are his lobstered arm guards, haha. Maybe they're just for looks.

Clare: "Why do you do that Raki?"
Raki: "Because I can" :cool:

[Ryuken]

Hmmm! After seeing it several times this is my conclusion about the armor. It seems that Raki is in fact in control of the armor. It seems that the plates somehow extend down from the elbow plate that he is wearing to his wrist and again back up. His left had can be clearly seen before and after the block.:eyebrow:

[Enara]

Thats what i keep saying

[rukori]

ahaha : )
you just tell me place of scans and translations next time. after i finished i will send you first!
sure. We got a deal:D

[void_er]

I'm gonna WAG a little about the little girl:...she is not a human... so that leaves a claymore, an AB, or a "dragon-kin"... or hybrid of some kind.

from the girl's size/height she is not Priscilla-she kinda seams like a 7-years old kid...
so ... who is she? more importantly ... whose kid is she?:
Priscilla & Isley
Priscilla & Raki
Priscilla/Isley/Raki
Just some random kid Priscilla was gonna eat... and Raki saved. Isley probably said that if she isn't gonna be useful as a meal... we'll make her a claymore and we'll give her to yoki-blind Raky as a pet(aka guide dog)

---

about the batman-armor-from-Isley's-flesh(witch i don't really buy into... but what the hell .... I'm WAGing)...even if the armor gives him some protection... it won't give him strength and speed... he seams to be stronger than a no 40 claymore... so he's probably a claymore with suppressed yoky; Isley probably did something to him ... or he just has a steady diet of suppression pills:)

Maby it's the girl's yoki that is controlling the batman-armor

[Ryuken]

Maby it's the girl's yoki that is controlling the batman-armor

That is also possible, but I guess it's not very probable.:eyebrow:

[evil_kenshin]

about the batman-armor-from-Isley's-flesh(witch i don't really buy into... but what the hell .... I'm WAGing)...even if the armor gives him some protection... it won't give him strength and speed... he seams to be stronger than a no 40 claymore... so he's probably a claymore with suppressed yoky; Isley probably did something to him ... or he just has a steady diet of suppression pills:)

well at the very least his stronger than a certain number 47 who's only org use is as a mobile dairy cow for miata :p

[Ryuken]

well at the very least his stronger than a certain number 47 who's only org use is as a mobile dairy cow for miata :p

That's a good one @e_k.:);):p:D

[Defiled one]

well at the very least his stronger than a certain number 47 who's only org use is as a mobile dairy cow for miata :p

First, those were not normal trees!:mad: there were Youma trees!
Second! :eyebrow: After serious investigation, I concluded that the wall in Rabona had a magnet.
And third!:eek: It is not what you think! Miata was sucking out the poison from a youma snake! and the moaning were not of pleasure but of pain.

That is all

[evil_kenshin]

First, those were not normal trees!:mad: there were Youma trees!
Second! :eyebrow: After serious investigation, I concluded that the wall in Rabona had a magnet.
And third!:eek: It is not what you think! Miata was sucking out the poison from a youma snake! and the moaning were not of pleasure but of pain.

That is all

Miata was moaning? its more serious than i thought ;)

[Ryuken]

Miata was moaning? its more serious than i thought ;)

That must be case then.:D

[Enara]

so much happened in the last chapter. It makes my head spin:eyespin:

[chibamonster]

With Raki and Clare actively looking for each other this could get very interesting. I imagine they will find each other pretty soon (unless they get caught in battles on the way) How hard can it be to find someone along a given path when you have super human speed? Especially when that person is a man who kills youma with a little girl on his shoulder in the towns he visits. Even with the cloak I imagine he sticks out a bit.

And I am hoping the little girl is Priscilla. The irony of her helping Raki hunt down and kill youma is just too much. Although it might be someone else. My guess is that Raki is still on good terms with Isley and Priscilla. They did save his life and apparently taught him how to fight. Well, Ophelia gave Raki some training but she was not very easy to learn from. It would be hilarious if Raki is physically stronger than Claymores because without the ability to sense or use youki taijutsu is all that is left to him. I cannot stop envisioning Raki's training with Isley and their relationship being exactly like Gai sensei and Rock Lee from Naruto. "Explosion of Youth! Don't worry Clare, the southern Lotus blooms twice!"

[tenken627]

Which makes you wonder what Galatea's initial reaction will be when she finds out about the breastfeeding sessions after they spend some time together.

"Clarice! Miata! Dinner's ready! Let's go ea... OMG!"

Well, that is if Galatea has eyes. Maybe Galatea wouldn't even notice?

[rukori]

u guys are so cruel towards Clarice... it's not her fault that she's the most weakling,dairy-cow, selfish, and cry-baby person in this manga:D...

[Ryuken]

u guys are so cruel towards Clarice... it's not her fault that she's the most weakling,dairy-cow, selfish, and cry-baby person in this manga:D...

Who knows(Yagi sensei of course), maybe one of these days she is going to get her way just like Raki.:D

[Goofus Maximus]

In the end, I bet Raki and Clarice marry, and raise Priscilla and Miata as their children. Clare gets to be Godmother to Priscilla. Sparks will fly! LOL!

I actually looked at the Chinese translated version while reading Blind's English translation in notepad! I'm getting desperate! :D

[evil_kenshin]

In the end, I bet Raki and Clarice marry, and raise Priscilla and Miata as their children. Clare gets to be Godmother to Priscilla. Sparks will fly! LOL!

why can i picture a similar relationship to how it goes with Saber (Arthuria) and Ilya from fate/stay night lol (always chasing Ilya away from Shirou, or in this case Clare chasing Priscilla from Raki)

[myshka]

u guys are so cruel towards Clarice... it's not her fault that she's the most weakling,dairy-cow, selfish, and cry-baby person in this manga:D...

Well she's the replacement for little Raki, someone in the manga has to cry every chance they get. ...

[chibamonster]

Hey, look what Raki became when people said he was a whiner. Clarice has a bright future ahead of her.

[evil_kenshin]

Hey, look what Raki became when people said he was a whiner. Clarice has a bright future ahead of her.

somehow i doubt there will be another 7 year timeskip to fix her

[Ryuken]

Hey, look what Raki became when people said he was a whiner. Clarice has a bright future ahead of her.

My thoughts exactly @chiba.:)

[Cyclone]

I actually looked at the Chinese translated version while reading Blind's English translation in notepad! I'm getting desperate! :D

Quite a bit of unecessary work, since somebody actually scanlated blind's translation (a few hours ago).
It's so sad that an English Scanlation using a Chinese to English translation, from a Chinese Scanlation makes it out before the 'original' Japanese raws. I'm starting to get frustrated by it.

[ebrehe]

Quite a bit of unecessary work, since somebody actually scanlated blind's translation (a few hours ago).
It's so sad that an English Scanlation using a Chinese to English translation, from a Chinese Scanlation makes it out before the 'original' Japanese raws. I'm starting to get frustrated by it.

how could that happen? an "insider" leaking mangas before they released?

or is it a legal trade, which i dont think so

edit: i meant chinese scanlations

[clarakiss~]

maybe clare will take clarice under her wings and teach her ^^;

clare: i was the former # 47.
clarice: i'm the # 47 now.
clare: dude, no way!!
clarice: *nods* waaa~y B)

[Simley]

I'm pretty sure Raki is now more powerful than Clarice...

[evil_kenshin]

I'm pretty sure Raki is now more powerful than Clarice...

well its well accepted that the org only made her to make up for lack of numbers, which makes u wonder if their running out of orphans/half yoma creating ability

while we don't know anything about 46 and most other weaker members in strength yet (if at all)

[Jonova]

how could that happen? an "insider" leaking mangas before they released?

or is it a legal trade, which i dont think so

edit: i meant chinese scanlations

The magazines are usually delivered to the local book store at the first day of the month, but they are not supposed to sell the book until 4th of the month. So if you are in good relation with one of the store owner or better yet you are one of the store owner, you get to see it a few days before everyone else.
The Chineses scanlation are usually out early simply because they have good source =)
ALL HAIL eugene THE ALMIGHTY XD

[Enara]

:bow: All Hail :bow:

[PGilis]

Besides a translated ch.80, I want to see the Raki Haters' face now, seeing this GAR-RAKI... No more winning! Now it's kicking-ass time!! :p

I knew this would happen because i learned my lesson with Archer/Emiya Shirow example... after some years of hard training, even a complete useless wimp can become hero-class level! :D

The bad thing is, besides training under Easley, probably Raki got some hints in fashion and used his shampoo, too. Just imaginate if the drunken Helen find him before Clare... :heh:

[yezhanquan]

I certainly hope that Isley is not using Raki as a part of his scheme. A part of me thinks that the Silver King is sick enough to twist a little kid.

[evil_kenshin]

I certainly hope that Isley is not using Raki as a part of his scheme. A part of me thinks that the Silver King is sick enough to twist a little kid.

thats presuming (which most likely its true though) there is a scheme whatever it may be. I mean the only move Isley has ever made is heading to the south because Priscilla wanted to and ensuring his own safety.

I mean the old saying the best defense is a good offense suits how he killed lucelia, so as to ensure he couldn't be killed by a teamup with her and riful.

[Luune]

I'm not so sure Raki was with Isley for the entire 7 year time skip. At some point he spent time as a prisoner in a northern dungeon,

[snip]

I'm still up in the air as to what Raki currently is though. It's possible that he could be a Claymore, though the fact that he can't sense Yoki is evidence against that. Also no male claymore has ever been able to keep from awakening. But perhaps the girl he's with has some kind of link with him that keeps his powers in check.

Another possibility is that he's just a talented human who has trained for the last 7 years with a single purpose in mind, to become strong.

Yet a third possibility is that he's something completely new, neither Claymore nor human. At this point I'm kind of leaning towards this possibility.

[evil_kenshin]

that was before he bumped into Isley, when he was still owned by the slave traders (just before the battle of pieta) , so yea his been there for 7 years (before he began travelling with the loli)

also we don't know for sure that no male has resisted awakening, we didn't observe that generation and Miria said the word "most" in the latest chapter , so proof is that some males can naturally resist

[Vinak]

since Raki is the current topic.

I am wondering if their is any deeper meaning to what Raki says about Isley in chapter 61 page 18.



This kinda got pushed back pretty quick the other day. But i am wondering if anybody has any thoughts on this.

[yezhanquan]

Well, Cid met Raki one year ago at Rabona, which means that he spent 5-6 years with Isley, 6 at the most.

As for Isley, it really depends whether he's more than just a simple warrior, even back in the old days.

[Ancient Soul]

About Raki been unable to sense yoki:

There are pills out there (wich Isley most likely know about an even how to make them).Also the MiBs can't sense yoki too and they proved that they are strong enough to wield claymores with ease and force youmas to serve them.Maybe Raki is a crossover between a Claymore and a MiB.No such hybrid showed in the manga until now.Since Raki is a link between Clare and Priscilla he can be a link between Claymores and MiBs too.

About GAR-Raki :

Right now he has good chances to create his long desired HAREM!After Clare, Clarice, Helen and Yuma have good chances to fall for GAR-Raki.I mean if he is a claymore will be the ONLY male claymore on the planet with his mind&body intact.No way the girls will skip him.

Clare : Raki why do you have such SWORD?
Helen : Raki why do you have such LEFT HAND?
Deneve : Raki why do you have such MUSCLES?
Miria : Raki why do you have such SPEED?
Clarice : Raki why do you have such ARMOUR?

Raki : To protect you, MY HAREM GIRLS!

Cynthia , Tabitha, Yuma : You are talking to us?

Galatea (nun\with Miata (feeding) and that girl in his arms (cring)\Priscilla (asking for papa) and Riful (asking for her teddy bear) alongside her as childrens) :

Don't expect me to rise your childrens too girls, i'm already busy!

[chibamonster]

@Ancient Soul: Lol. Oh manga harems. While Claymore has some similarities I do not think it will ever go that way except in fan fictions :D.

[Cyclone]

This kinda got pushed back pretty quick the other day. But i am wondering if anybody has any thoughts on this.

I'm assuming you mean the "feels like my movements are being gently guided by his will" bit?
I always understood that to be simply his teaching style. If you play a "teaching game" in the boardgame go, as the stronger player you try to avoid playing aggressively and exploiting weaknesses, but rather to play moves that induce the student to make the correct responces (effectively half playing against yourself). I imagine the same kind of thing would be true in Isley's sword lessons. He'd deliberately show opennings at stratigic times to induce good habits, and punish poor habits mercilessly.
I doubt there is any other manipulation involved.

[ergon]

This kinda got pushed back pretty quick the other day. But i am wondering if anybody has any thoughts on this.since Raki is the current topic.

I am wondering if their is any deeper meaning to what Raki says about Isley in chapter 61 page 18.



Maybe he can project his mind, in order to train him faster. Like imparting his instinct to Raki or something. But Raki still doesn't look very GAR to me. I guess its not really possible with Isley as his mentor. The most GAR would have to be GARk, heh.

The big hand reminds me of the MV for "Everlong".
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6799/foo285071drd1.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foo285071drd1.jpg)

[chibamonster]

@Ergon: LOL! I am not the only person who thought of the Everlong music video! I thought it was too obscure a reference to bring up but man oh man was I wrong.

I am amazed at the theories that are popping out about Raki, Raki's training, Raki's armor and such. Forums really are fun. Thanks all! Now I can't wait for Raki to either use his berserker armor that makes him feel no pain, learn the name of his sword, or split into hundreds of Raki's to master his techniques faster... Okay, none of that is going to happen. But he is back and certainly not giving hugs to gut eating monsters.

[Synyster]

After reading the last 15 pages of the thread I can't resist to post my theory about the armor:

Maybe, and just maybe, the armor is Isley. I mean, if he can transform the whole arms into a shield or something, why then he can't transform the whole body into an armor to protect and help Raki? I mean, he can slide down some parts to protection in the right moment and because he can't talk in that form there's Priscilla to tell him the location of the yoma.

Yeah, I think my theory is a litte stupid but I'm thinking too much in that.

[evil_kenshin]

After reading the last 15 pages of the thread I can't resist to post my theory about the armor:

Maybe, and just maybe, the armor is Isley. I mean, if he can transform the whole arms into a shield or something, why then he can't transform the whole body into an armor to protect and help Raki? I mean, he can slide down some parts to protection in the right moment and because he can't talk in that form there's Priscilla to tell him the location of the yoma.

Yeah, I think my theory is a litte stupid but I'm thinking too much in that.

well apart from the anime, no awakened being is shown to have a 2nd form. Isley can chance his arms but at the same time he can't become those objects as a whole (a sword or a shield or anything) at least nothing has demonstrated this so far

but it would at least make sense on how it moves on its own if its the case

[Mandrake]

Or it's a part of isley, not isley himself. Isley has shown some of the projectiles he shot could be self guiding, maybe he's cut of part of himself to be self serving to Raki.

[evil_kenshin]

Or it's a part of isley, not isley himself. Isley has shown some of the projectiles he shot could be self guiding, maybe he's cut of part of himself to be self serving to Raki.

possible, yet somehow i doubt we will find out the answer about the armor for a few more chapters yet :(

[Synyster]

I hope the next chap explains what the hell happened to Raki

[evil_kenshin]

I hope the next chap explains what the hell happened to Raki

i reckon it will be half half, some of the chapter will deal with Raki some will deal with something else

[ergon]

The armor still looks like normal, metal armor to me. It doesn't look...bionic or anything. It being part of Isley's old gear seems more likely I think, given the slight similarity to Raphaela's armor.

[Cyclone]

Have you at least seen the japanese version yet, ergon? Any major differences from what you remember?
(this waiting for the japanese raw is killing me)

[chibamonster]

I am beginning to think that Claymore is actually a chinese publication.

[Synyster]

(this waiting for the japanese raw is killing me)

Indeed.


Plus, I think this chap was too short.

[PGilis]

I hope the next chap explains what the hell happened to Raki

Yeah... and the most important question: Can Raki still cook? ;)

Just a thought i got. If GAR-Raki is re-tracing his steps with Clare, and by now he is in his old village, that means sooner or later he will visit Rabona again. If Clare and the other Fab-7 decide to go away, that means GAR-Raki could meet Clarice, Miata and Galatea - who decide to stay in Rabona - before Clare.

[evil_kenshin]

Yeah... and the most important question: Can Raki still cook? ;)

Just a thought i got. If GAR-Raki is re-tracing his steps with Clare, and by now he is in his old village, that means sooner or later he will visit Rabona again. If Clare and the other Fab-7 decide to go away, that means GAR-Raki could meet Clarice, Miata and Galatea - who decide to stay in Rabona - before Clare.

well , depends if his tracing exactly where they headed, Clare should have a rough idea where he is (considering he just arrived at the starting point and she is at the end more or less).

Clare would sooner cross paths with Raki ,than Raki would arive in Rabona. Though neither Galatea, Miata or Clarice would know of Raki and unless they hear him mention Clare there wouldn't be any encounter between them

[Ancient Soul]

I wonder why Raki didn't start his journey for Clare from his home village in the south (since he was there with Isley and Priscilla in the first place).His village was in the south (the fact that he has the "smell of the south" somehow prove is location).But as far as we know he was first saw in Rabona (central\western\north region maybe)(a lot of rains there).So this
mean that after he left from Isley he went north passing by his village then return back to the south to his village...after a year!!!What he did for a year?If he had run fast toward north why he didn't go stright in the far north (at Pieta)?He knew (if not by rumors if nothing else) that claymores fought there and good chances that Clare was there or near by?Also he could just wait for her south of Pieta, since it seem that is the only way towards south.

It seem that for some reason he chosed to stay mostly in the central\north region...where Riful is busy right now...Also i find a little strange that since is after Clare didn't have the courage to ask a claymore in the first place about Clare...I doubt that the ORG don't know about him by now...if he kill youmas in every town he pass...youma who maybe are send by The ORG.I mean he interfere with their business and cutting their profits...what if he killed a youma for who already was send a request?If The ORG don't know about him he mean that he don't usualy kill youmas (very strange for someone who had is relatives eaten) and this one was an exception for his village or The ORG don't care (at least they can be curious about that "male claymore" who kill youmas).

...Raki and the girl are working either for Isley or someone else...their mission is not only to find clare but also to keep an eye on AB/AO movements...they seem like a cover ops team...to weak to raise questions but strong enough to move without problems...

Somehow Raki seem a little to happy and confident about Clare being alive like he is sure that she is alive and survived Pieta and seven years.He wasn't at Pieta , Isley and Priscilla looked from afar so can't tell him for sure if she is alive (in fact they think that all claymores there died) .How he knew that she survived?

My point : Raki quest for Clare his his second objective rather than his first or at least is searching for something else too.

[evil_kenshin]

hmm not sure about that all i mean for a start, how can the org know about raki if theres no one left alive to tell the organization, kinda a moot point (they wouldn't waste the org's eye on keeping a watch over the yoma population)

second of all, the way Cid said it kinda made it seem like he had been to Rabona more than once (in the translation it says "every time he found you weren't there he'd head off" ) so no idea where his original journey started from

I think your part way right, but i believe its the inverse while Clare is his main goal, he has a secondary goal since when in his home town he uses the word "IT" instead of "Clare" when saying something wasn't there

[yezhanquan]

Well, I think Raki still can cook. Who knows, maybe Isley even liked it.

And... Claymore chapters are ALWAYS too short.

[ergon]

Have you at least seen the japanese version yet, ergon? Any major differences from what you remember?
(this waiting for the japanese raw is killing me)

Man! I read your post then remembered that I was going to go to the store and get it...but I just went to two places and they both only had last months issue! :frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:

[yezhanquan]

Somehow, Jump Square hates forums.animesuki.com.

[clarakiss~]

has it every occur to you guys that raki might have made the armor himself instead of isley or whoever gave it to him? i mean, he knows what youmas capabilities are and how fast and strong they are. i wouldn't be shock if he told clare that made the armor himself and did some neat tricks to it.

and raki being a claymore... i don't think he is one. if he were a male claymore, he wouldn't have gone inside the city of rabona in the first place. ^^;

[yezhanquan]

Well, Raki may have made it himself, with advice from Isley. I cannot imagine Raki coming up with the armour independently.

[evil_kenshin]

Raki ain't a blacksmith though, nor would he have access to the materials (considering their from the mainland)

[mosmos]

I am beginning to think that Claymore is actually a chinese publication.

Haha..It is...

has it every occur to you guys that raki might have made the armor himself instead of isley or whoever gave it to him? i mean, he knows what youmas capabilities are and how fast and strong they are. i wouldn't be shock if he told clare that made the armor himself and did some neat tricks to it.

and raki being a claymore... i don't think he is one. if he were a male claymore, he wouldn't have gone inside the city of rabona in the first place. ^^;

Hey good point...

But the way, is Raki's sword as big as an claymore sword ?

[evil_kenshin]

Hey good point...

But the way, is Raki's sword as big as an claymore sword ?

yea possibly isley's old one (wonder what happened to the sword he got from Galk though)

[mosmos]

Somehow, Jump Square hates forums.animesuki.com.

Why do you say that ?

[mosmos]

yea possibly isley's old one (wonder what happened to the sword he got from Galk though)

Oh Thanks.. Then either Raki san is inhuman or on steroids.. (Please.. let him be inhuman)

Oh Yeah ... What happened to that sword from Galk ? Raki probably sold it to buy his present pwnage armour..

[evil_kenshin]

Oh Thanks.. Then either Raki san is inhuman or on steroids.. (Please.. let him be inhuman)

Oh Yeah ... What happened to that sword from Galk ? Raki probably sold it to buy his present pwnage armour..

i don't think they had steroids back then lol, but just the same it can be any number of things causing his strength/speed to we find out more

[tenken627]

I know it's been stated before, but it's a very good point.

If Raki or the little girl had the slightest bit of youki within them, Galatea would have noticed them right away when they arrived at Rabona a year ago. Even if they were suppressing their youki through pills or naturally.

This would include Raki's armor if it was part of Isley.

I would imagine that if the armor was a living organism from Isley's body, it would contain massive amounts of yoma energy. Something that Galatea would also be able to pick up fast.

[evil_kenshin]

I know it's been stated before, but it's a very good point.

If Raki or the little girl had the slightest bit of youki within them, Galatea would have noticed them right away when they arrived at Rabona a year ago. Even if they were suppressing their youki through pills or naturally.

This would include Raki's armor if it was part of Isley.

I would imagine that if the armor was a living organism from Isley's body, it would contain massive amounts of yoma energy. Something that Galatea would also be able to pick up fast.

not necessarily, i'd understand if they were suppressing it naturally, but to say she could detect them if under pills is a different story, besides we know the girl has yoki, yet Galatea didn't do anything then.

Galatea was staying out of sight, it would draw attention if suddenly the blind nun from the orphanage came charging out at strangers with super powers lol + Raki is trusted by the town gaurd (well Cid & Galk anyway)

[tenken627]

not necessarily, i'd understand if they were suppressing it naturally, but to say she could detect them if under pills is a different story, besides we know the girl has yoki, yet Galatea didn't do anything then.

Galatea was staying out of sight, it would draw attention if suddenly the blind nun from the orphanage came charging out at strangers with super powers lol + Raki is trusted by the town gaurd (well Cid & Galk anyway)

True, Galatea didn't detect the Ghost 7 who were suppressing naturally. But a living armor from Isley would have yoma energy from an Abyssal One. That would definitely give off something that Galatea would detect.

Sensing a Claymore and sensing an Awakened Being, especially an Abyssal One, is two different things. And whether in hiding or not, Galatea would most likely try to do something about it, like Agatha.

As for the little girl, we have no clue if she has youki or not.

[Kinematics]

but to say she could detect them if under pills is a different story

Galatea had no trouble detecting Clarice and Miata, and they were using the suppression pills (though we don't know what range she was able to detect them at).

besides we know the girl has yoki

Technically, we don't know that yet.

[evil_kenshin]

True, Galatea didn't detect the Ghost 7 who were suppressing naturally. But a living armor from Isley would be youki energy from an Abyssal One. That would definitely give off something that Galatea would detect.

Sensing a Claymore and sensing an Awakened Being, especially an Abyssal One, is two different things. And whether in hiding or not, Galatea would most likely try to do something about it, like Agatha.

well, from what we heard from Cid, it seemed like Raki was only in town long enough to find out Clare wasn't there (so an hour or so). But if its just Raki and the girl who are the ones with yoki under suppression pills (keep in mind, Clare couldn't sense AB's with suppression pills which would account for Raki in his home town needing the loli)

just the same Galatea couldn't risk giving away her position to Agatha which would of meant Agatha acting up realizing there was a half yoma hiding in her town

[mosmos]

I know it's been stated before, but it's a very good point.

If Raki or the little girl had the slightest bit of youki within them, Galatea would have noticed them right away when they arrived at Rabona a year ago. Even if they were suppressing their youki through pills or naturally.

This would include Raki's armor if it was part of Isley.

I would imagine that if the armor was a living organism from Isley's body, it would contain massive amounts of yoma energy. Something that Galatea would also be able to pick up fast.

If Raki's san armour is part of Isley, that's gay.

[tenken627]

well, from what we heard from Cid, it seemed like Raki was only in town long enough to find out Clare wasn't there (so an hour or so). But if its just Raki and the girl who are the ones with yoki under suppression pills (keep in mind, Clare couldn't sense AB's with suppression pills which would account for Raki in his home town needing the loli)

just the same Galatea couldn't risk giving away her position to Agatha which would of meant Agatha acting up realizing there was a half yoma hiding in her town

Galatea can sense through pills like how she sensed Clarice and Miata (like Kinematics stated above.)

Raki and the girl may only have been in Rabona for a short period of time, but remember that this still is a city that did not welcome Claymores or those from the Organization.

There would be no Claymores randomly coming into the city. And from Cid's words in Chapter 74, there has been no other request for Claymores since Clare arrived 7 years ago.

Anything with youki would be remembered by Galatea if they passed by, since it is likely that it would be rare for one to even come to Rabona.

[evil_kenshin]

Galatea can sense through pills like how she sensed Clarice and Miata (like Kinematics stated above.)

Raki and the girl may only have been in Rabona for a short period of time, but remember that this still is a city that did not welcome Claymores or those from the Organization.

There would be no Claymores randomly coming into the city. And from Cid's words in Chapter 74, there has been no other request for Claymores since Clare arrived 7 years ago.

Anything with youki would be remembered by Galatea if they passed by, since it is likely that it would be rare for one to even come to Rabona.

true, but how do u explain the girl? its confirmed she was in Rabona. Sure we don't know that she is a Ab or a yoma but just the same odds are its either Priscilla or Riful so how did Galatea miss that is going to need a big explanation

[tenken627]

true, but how do u explain the girl? its confirmed she was in Rabona. Sure we don't know that she is a Ab or a yoma but just the same odds are its either Priscilla or Riful so how did Galatea miss that is going to need a big explanation

I really doubt that the little girl is Priscilla or Riful. Awakened Beings as powerful as Priscilla and Riful would easily be detected by Galatea if they were in the city. Priscilla or Riful would give off much more yoma energy than Agatha, that's for sure.

Edit:

I am not sure if a male Claymore's youki signature would be different from a female Claymore. Say, if Raki became part yoma, would a youki sensor be able to distinguish that a hybrid is male? Or would they just sense that it's a hybrid generally?

I would think since youki release and Awakening is different in males and females, their youki signature and possibly youki usage could very well be different also.

[evil_kenshin]

I really doubt that the little girl is Priscilla or Riful. Awakened Beings as powerful as Priscilla and Riful would easily be detected by Galatea if they were in the city. Priscilla or Riful would give off much more yoma energy than Agatha, that's for sure.

but either way Galatea must of been aware of whoever it was (i find it very dis believable it was a MiB or a Dragon) considering she could detect Clarice under yoki suppression pills, the weakest ever known half yoma

[mosmos]

true, but how do u explain the girl? its confirmed she was in Rabona. Sure we don't know that she is a Ab or a yoma but just the same odds are its either Priscilla or Riful so how did Galatea miss that is going to need a big explanation

see.. that girl is Priscilla... but after 7 years of starving .. she became tiny and lost her yoki (just like the ghost 7). Therefore Galeatea cannot detect her... It makes sense right ? haha

[ggpr]

How are you guys reading this?

The only thing I found was something you put into notepad and read it while looking at the pictures (which I don't want to do this as I think it would ruin the atmosphere).

Do you guys have a translated scan that I don't know about or are you doing it the alt-tab way?

[evil_kenshin]

see.. that girl is Priscilla... but after 7 years of starving .. she became tiny and lost her yoki (just like the ghost 7). Therefore Galeatea cannot detect her... It makes sense right ? haha

lol chibi Priscilla? now this i gotta see (makes u wonder how Raki and Priscilla's sex life goes :p )

[Anima]

why are you people so worked up about Raki's armor? It really is beyond me.

[gnc742]

lol chibi Priscilla? now this i gotta see (makes u wonder how Raki and Priscilla's sex life goes :p )

lol. claymore turned into ecchi

[tenken627]

but either way Galatea must of been aware of whoever it was (i find it very dis believable it was a MiB or a Dragon) considering she could detect Clarice under yoki suppression pills, the weakest ever known half yoma

We've seen at least one other way to detect youki.

Miata sensed yomas and even tracked Galatea through her "sixth sense" while she was under suppression pills. The little girl might be able to do the same.

We don't know if the little girl has youki or not. At least we don't right now.

For all we know, the little girl could also be something related to the OE (Organization's Enemy). If the Org has been experimenting with yomas for 100 years, I would expect that the OEs would be doing something within that 100 years to counter it. Or at least somehow sense which soldiers were Claymores or not.

That, or the little girl knows how to naturally suppress her youki, which doesn't seem like it's very easily achieved. I wouldn't expect a normal Claymore trainee know how to do it.

[mosmos]

How are you guys reading this?

The only thing I found was something you put into notepad and read it while looking at the pictures (which I don't want to do this as I think it would ruin the atmosphere).

Do you guys have a translated scan that I don't know about or are you doing it the alt-tab way?

Simple. I understand Chinese. And many can too.

[evil_kenshin]

lol. claymore turned into ecchi

well the amount of breasts seen has already made it technically an ecchi manga (since its beyond fanservice) though usually its only seen with awakened beings (Agatha's human form is the one exception as far as i remember)

plus Riful hinted she and Duaf got up to...things :D

[mosmos]

well the amount of breasts seen has already made it technically an ecchi manga (since its beyond fanservice) though usually its only seen with awakened beings (Agatha's human form is the one exception as far as i remember)

plus Riful hinted she and Duaf got up to...things :D

You guys are the best! Please don't die! Good Night

[Synyster]

I'm really confused now xD

I don't know, maybe Raki is a male Claymore (or a kakusesha, which would be interesting) and he's on pills and the girl can supress her yoki naturally and that's why she can detect yoma. In that case, the org cannot detect them. And the armor is just the Isley's old one.

[evil_kenshin]

creepily looking at Isleys awakened form, and the armor there are some similarities, especially the waist area of Raki's armor/Isley's plates??(not sure what you would call them)

but it would be to disturbing for Raki to physically wear Isley and hope its not the case

[Jonova]

I think people went too far on the Raki armor speculation, remember when there are more than one possibility to one problem, the simplest one is usually the correct one.
As for the little girl, I really have no idea, but after reading someone's thoughts I now have a strange feeling that her name will be

Teresa

[Synyster]

creepily looking at Isleys awakened form, and the armor there are some similarities, especially the waist area of Raki's armor/Isley's plates??(not sure what you would call them)

but it would be to disturbing for Raki to physically wear Isley and hope its not the case

That's thinking that the armor is the Isley's old one have more sense.

[Synyster]

I think people went too far on the Raki armor speculation, remember when there are more than one possibility to one problem, the simplest one is usually the correct one.
As for the little girl, I really have no idea, but after reading someone's thoughts I now have a strange feeling that her name will be

Teresa

But then she's just a girl that ran away from de org or someone's daughter?

[mosmos]

I think people went too far on the Raki armor speculation, remember when there are more than one possibility to one problem, the simplest one is usually the correct one.
As for the little girl, I really have no idea, but after reading someone's thoughts I now have a strange feeling that her name will be

Teresa

That will be great !!

[evil_kenshin]

But then she's just a girl that ran away from de org or someone's daughter?

well that name has importance to both Raki & Priscilla , so if "it" possibly happened i wouldn't be surprised that was her name

[Synyster]

well that name has importance to both Raki & Priscilla , so if "it" possibly happened i wouldn't be surprised that was her name

Hmmm... I don't think that Raki knows about what happened with Teresa.

[tenken627]

Galatea had no trouble detecting Clarice and Miata, and they were using the suppression pills (though we don't know what range she was able to detect them at).


Well, Galatea was able to detect Clare, Deneve, Helen, and Miria in the Slashers' Arc from a long distance away. She could even detect their emotions at that range.

And that was all before the pre-blind power-up.

Also, if blind's translation on NarutoChaos is accurate:

Page 8 -

Top right page -

Galatea: ....

Top left page -

Galatea: What can I do to help... even though I'm blind?

Mid page -

Miria: I hope you can say in this city and protect the little warriors. I think the organization is about to use some more deadly force.

If that's the case I hope you can use your excellent detection of Yoki to search for and find our oppositions, as well as think of a strategy against them.

Bottom right page -

Miria: Regardless of times or change, to have someone with your ability and skill level is quite rare. We should always act first to gain the upper hand.

Bottom left page -

Galatea: Really now... Ha...I might just accept that compliment.


Miria is the master of flattery, isn't she? And Audrey + Galatea lap it all up :heh:.



Well, Miria asks Galatea to stay at Rabona, but she also wants Galatea to do reconnaissance on the Organization and Claymores with her excellent youki sensing skills.

Galatea probably wouldn't be able to detect all of the enemy movements from Rabona (and she might move around, but not too far from the city of Rabona itself), but the fact that she could possibly scout that far shows considerable range, far beyond city limits.

[evil_kenshin]

Hmmm... I don't think that Raki knows about what happened with Teresa.

but Raki has an obsession with the Clare and Teresa statue, which is what i meant lol (heck he was drawing it while captured by the slave traders)

[Synyster]

but Raki has an obsession with the Clare and Teresa statue, which is what i meant lol (heck he was drawing it while captured by the slave traders)

Oh, that's true. It have sense now lol


But really, I don't want that the girl is Priscillas & Raki's daughter. I don't like the idea <_<

[evil_kenshin]

Oh, that's true. It have sense now lol


But really, I don't want that the girl is Priscillas & Raki's daughter. I don't like the idea <_<

neither do i :D

[Jonova]

Oh, that's true. It have sense now lol


But really, I don't want that the girl is Priscillas & Raki's daughter. I don't like the idea <_<

Teresa is probably the last name Priscilla would name her daughter after if she ever has one. On the other hand, if Raki ever has a daughter and the mother is not Clare, he'd probably name her Clare not Teresa.

I do think the little girl will be some new character we never heard of before, that's partly why I have the strange feeling about the names.

[zato_1one]

I really doubt that the little girl is Priscilla or Riful. Awakened Beings as powerful as Priscilla and Riful would easily be detected by Galatea if they were in the city. Priscilla or Riful would give off much more yoma energy than Agatha, that's for sure.
She is AB or not doesn't have any different result. Even if Galatea could detect her Yoki, she wouldn't do something reckless such as suddenly attack them. She would plan how to deal with them later. But in this case, Raki and the little girl just came for a brief time. They didn't stay in Rabona like Agatha. In other words, they went out of town before Galatea took any action.

[tenken627]

She is AB or not doesn't have any different result. Even if Galatea could detect her Yoki, she wouldn't do something reckless such as suddenly attack them. She would plan how to deal with them later. But in this case, Raki and the little girl just came for a brief time. They didn't stay in Rabona like Agatha. In other words, they went out of town before Galatea took any action.

But, wouldn't Galatea know that an AB passed by? She would be able to tell if the girl was an AB or not?

[evil_kenshin]

But, wouldn't Galatea know that an AB passed by? She would be able to tell if the girl was an AB or not?

but thats the point, she knew about it but did nothing about it due to their such short stay in the town.

But Agatha is the wildcard, while not sure how long she's been there, AB's are the type to fight for dominance while the girl wouldn't of attacked, if Agatha sensed the girl she would of started raging about

problem is , its only guesswork when both Agatha and Galatea even arived in Rabona

[Jonova]

But, wouldn't Galatea know that an AB passed by? She would be able to tell if the girl was an AB or not?

She would probably know, but she wouldn't know she was with Raki who was searching for Clare, nor would she know Clare is searching for Raki.

But Agatha is the wildcard, while not sure how long she's been there, AB's are the type to fight for dominance while the girl wouldn't of attacked, if Agatha sensed the girl she would of started raging about

I think it was mentioned the manga Agatha has been in Rabona for couple months while Raki arrived in over a year ago so they couldn't have met in Rabona.

[tenken627]

but thats the point, she knew about it but did nothing about it due to their such short stay in the town.

But Agatha is the wildcard, while not sure how long she's been there, AB's are the type to fight for dominance while the girl wouldn't of attacked, if Agatha sensed the girl she would of started raging about

problem is , its only guesswork when both Agatha and Galatea even arived in Rabona

My point is that if Galatea knew that the little girl was a yoma hybrid, or even an AB, she will be able to tell the others.

If the little girl was Priscilla or Riful (and Galatea has met Riful before), that is a different story, as they represent immediate dangers at all times.

Agatha arrived a few months before Clarice arrived. Cid mentions that people started to disappear a few months ago when he first meets Clarice. Galatea has been in Rabona for a few years, as stated by Cid.

So the order of arrival would be:

1) Galatea a few years ago

2) Raki one year ago

3) Agatha a few months ago

4) Clarice + Miata/ Ghost 7 that day

[evil_kenshin]

why would she tell the others though seems kinda a strange thing to say "oh about a year back there was this strong yoma energy, but it didn't do anything i just felt the need to tell you"

[tenken627]

why would she tell the others though seems kinda a strange thing to say "oh about a year back there was this strong yoma energy, but it didn't do anything i just felt the need to tell you"

No, but if Galatea learned that Raki and a little girl arrived one year ago, Galatea would know that she detected youki energy a year ago as well.

Rabona doesn't welcome Claymores. There hasn't been any yoma/AB incidents until Agatha. If the little girl has youki, she would probably have been the only one, or one of very very few within the two years that Galatea was living in Rabona.

Now if it was Priscilla or Riful, powerful one of a kind Abyssal Ones or Awakened Beings, Galatea probably would talk about it even if she didn't hear about Raki.

[Synyster]

why would she tell the others though seems kinda a strange thing to say "oh about a year back there was this strong yoma energy, but it didn't do anything i just felt the need to tell you"

Maybe she thinked that the yoki became from a regular yoma and that's why she didn't do anything.

[evil_kenshin]

No, but if Galatea learned that Raki and a little girl arrived one year ago, Galatea would know that she detected youki energy a year ago as well.

Rabona doesn't welcome Claymores. There hasn't been any yoma/AB incidents until Agatha. If the little girl has youki, she would probably been the only one, or one of very very few within the two years that Galatea was living in Rabona.

thing is, she didn't know. Galatea wasn't in the room with Cid , Galk, Clare and Helen (think Deneve was there too) when Clare asked about Raki and Cid brought up the girl

she's unaware of Raki's existance

[tenken627]

thing is, she didn't know. Galatea wasn't in the room with Cid , Galk, Clare and Helen (think Deneve was there too) when Clare asked about Raki and Cid brought up the girl

she's unaware of Raki's existance

I'm saying that we will find out as soon as Galatea hears about it. And she probably will soon too, if Clare wants to leave off on her own again to find Raki now that she knows his directions and whereabouts.

[evil_kenshin]

Sigh, I'm saying that we will find out as soon as Galatea hears about it. And she probably will soon too, if Clare wants to leave off on her own again to find Raki now that she knows his directions and whereabouts.

we'll it would certainly be motivation for Clare i admit

[tenken627]

we'll it would certainly be motivation for Clare i admit

Ya, she wanted to leave the Ghosts in the first place up in the north. That's what sparked this whole journey after the 7 year time skip.

Maybe she thinked that the yoki became from a regular yoma and that's why she didn't do anything.

I don't know. Someone with Galatea's skill and talent would be able to tell exactly who and where the youki energy came from.

She can detect emotions. She can detect specific individuals. She can detect at far off distances. She's a master at youki detection. She'll know the differences between a yoma and a hybrid and an AB/AO.

[evil_kenshin]

Ya, she wanted to leave the Ghosts in the first place up in the north. That's what sparked this whole journey after the 7 year time skip.

True, but the thing is, will Miria let Clare go on her own Miria is dead set on having her revenge and she will use all the "resources" she has available.

[Goofus Maximus]

I don't konw. I think Priscilla is better at hiding her youki than even Riful, and might not "show up on the radar" in her amnesiac-child state.

[evil_kenshin]

I don't konw. I think Priscilla is better at hiding her youki than even Riful, and might not "show up on the radar" in her amnesiac-child state.

well Isley was even thrown off in his detection at first, Lucelia couldn't sense her at all and Riful could sense her perfectly so its been a mixed bag in regards to who can detect her and how well

[tenken627]

True, but the thing is, will Miria let Clare go on her own Miria is dead set on having her revenge and she will use all the "resources" she has available.

I don't think Miria would hold anyone against their will into staying with her. Miria herself wanted to go alone as well. She didn't force anyone into coming with her.

She says that she is going south with Clare to get revenge, and the others can stay in the north if they want.

well Isley was even thrown off in his detection at first, Lucelia couldn't sense her at all and Riful could sense her perfectly so its been a mixed bag in regards to who can detect her and how well

I agree, some are just better at youki detection than others. The three "Eyes" - Galatea, Tabitha, Luune are probably the top three at this ability.

I don't know if any former "Eyes" have Awakened into ABs.

[evil_kenshin]

I don't think Miria would hold anyone against their will into staying with her. Miria herself wanted to go alone as well. She didn't force anyone into coming with her.

She says that she is going south with Clare to get revenge, and the others can stay in the north if they want.

More than likely, but i can't really see Clare going on her own i expect atleast a tag along or two (Helen and one other the most likely)

[Synyster]

I don't know. Someone with Galatea's skill and talent would be able to tell exactly who and where the youki energy came from.

She can detect emotions. She can detect specific individuals. She can detect at far off distances. She's a master at youki detection. She'll know the differences between a yoma and a hybrid and an AB/AO.

Yeah but she didn't do anything anyway.

[tenken627]

More than likely, but i can't really see Clare going on her own i expect atleast a tag along or two (Helen and one other the most likely)

Well, that's why I agree with Kinematics' speculation that the Ghosts will part ways. Like in the Lord of the Rings.

There is just too many things going on at once for them to stay together, unless the story just starts to make everything coincidental (which would be horrible).

Kinematics post:

Looks like it's time for the team to split up (temporarily). How I could see it unfolding from here:

Teams:

Miria (lead)
w/ Tabitha, Cynthia
Objective: Establish Rebel Alliance footholds while Clare locates Raki.
Trouble: Encounter Dragon Kin finding the island and starting to make a beachhead for invasion.

Clare (lead)
w/ Helen, Deneve, Yuma
Objective: Reunion with Raki
Altercation: Riful. Time to twist things around with Raki possibly defending Riful and Clare from each other due to what he's learned from Isley; be interesting to see the other side of Helen's comment come about, too.

Galatea (lead)
w/ Miata, Clarice
Objective: Secure Rabona, watch for Org offensives
Mule-headedness: Clarice decides she has to strike out on her own (with Miata) for some purpose (eg: evidence of Org movement, confronting her handler, etc.) leaving Galatea in a bad position when a real attack happens. Strategizing with Cid, Galk and the other troops yields an effective victory by primarily human hands.


I probably think that Miria will also have Helen + Deneve with her. Yuma will most likely follow Clare, just like how she followed Clare in the north. Possibly Cynthia as well? Or maybe just Clare and Yuma.

I'm thinking the split up will be like this -

Miria's team - Deneve, Helen, Tabitha, Cynthia?

Clare's team - Yuma, Cynthia?

Galatea's team - Miata, Clarice


Yeah but she didn't do anything anyway.

Yeah, I mean that Galatea will be able to tell the others about the little girl's true nature when she hears about her and Raki visiting Rabona a year ago.

[evil_kenshin]

possible only problem really is Raki is in the south and Clare is in the West. Riful wouldn't go beyond the West, and yet for Raki (while he is faster than a human im not sure his speed) to get to the West in such a short time will be difficult Also i don't see Raki defending Riful, his obviously not a Pacifist by the way his grinning about killing the yoma. Also its an Awakened being trying to hurt Clare so his not going to show sympathy for Riful.

Actually i'd prefer if it was an altercation was with Duaf as we still haven't seen him yet or atleast involve him somehow (he needs to be finished off sometime, his like the yammy [ from bleach] of the awakened being world at the moment)

[tenken627]

possible only problem really is Raki is in the south and Clare is in the West. Riful wouldn't go beyond the West, and yet for Raki (while he is faster than a human im not sure his speed) to get to the West in such a short time will be difficult Also i don't see Raki defending Riful, his obviously not a Pacifist by the way his grinning about killing the yoma. Also its an Awakened being trying to hurt Clare so his not going to show sympathy for Riful.

Actually i'd prefer if it was an altercation was with Duaf as we still haven't seen him yet or atleast involve him somehow (he needs to be finished off sometime, his like the yammy [ from bleach] of the awakened being world at the moment)

Haha, yeah I don't know about the potential "problems" in that post either. Maybe, maybe not.

But, if we are going to find out Riful's secret, it will most likely be Clare finding it out, especially since Riful has vowed revenge on Clare. Riful looks kind of vengeful too.

[Ryuken]

Maybe the girl is using a mask to hide her yoki to some extent. Al thou I don't think that could fool Galatea and the ghosts.:eyebrow:

[Cyclone]

Since the japanese raw finally appeared :), I'll go over it and see if there are any blatant mistranslations when I get home from work. This is so going to tempt me to go home early...

[chibamonster]

Oh no... The little girl on the shoulder IS Raki. Oh no...

[Blaat]

You know, I'm going to miss wimpy Raki I was really enjoying reading all the hate posts towards him but now he's all gar-like :(

[Defiled one]

You know, I'm going to miss wimpy Raki I was really enjoying reading all the hate posts towards him but now he's all gar-like :(


:mad: OH so now you miss him!!?

[hell88]

Oh no... The little girl on the shoulder IS Raki. Oh no...

That would make me laugh so hard I would start crying if it were true.:heh:

Haven't read the new chapter yet. Its starting to drive me crazy!

[mosmos]

Oh no... The little girl on the shoulder IS Raki. Oh no...


LOL ... And the guy is ?

[chibamonster]

New character. :D

The little girl has her face cloaked to keep us on the edge of our seats. Oh the joys of serialization and constant cliff hangers. There is probably a better word than cliffhanger for serialization but it is not coming to mind. If Clare is going to meet up with Raki soon having Priscilla with him will have the biggest impact on her. Clare has to find out that Raki is/was with Priscilla at some time and she has to flip. Priscilla saving Raki and then helping him hunt Youma messes with her character even more. It would be cool :D But it also might be a new character under the hood.

[clarakiss~]

maybe the girl is another of isley's most trusted subordinate like rigaldo and is told to help out raki on his journey and also to keep an eye on him.

someone did say it might be lil teresa and the first thought came to mind was a clone but i don't think they have the technology to pull that off though.

[mosmos]

C80 on onemanga now... but pls change the fonts..

[Newhope]

Looks like Galatia has joined the ghosts after all , and it looks like Miria maybe trying to put together an army in the future with the holy city as there base.

[chibamonster]

Whoah, just a thought. Why did AB's fight DoD's until they died? Why not just do what the AB's do on this continent where they sleep and eat? Could it be that AB's are specifically designed to kill DoD's? As in one of their incredible urges is to consume them or something? That could be interesting. Maybe DoD's guts taste much better than humans. Who knows...

And also the war might just be over and Awakened Beings must be controlled for a different reason.

[evil_kenshin]

Whoah, just a thought. Why did AB's fight DoD's until they died? Why not just do what the AB's do on this continent where they sleep and eat? Could it be that AB's are specifically designed to kill DoD's? As in one of their incredible urges is to consume them or something? That could be interesting. Maybe DoD's guts taste much better than humans. Who knows...

personally i think its cause they only just awakened. I mean think about it, without realizing whats going on they awakened in the midsts of a battlefield covered with blood of humans. Notice how AB's act alot differently when they first awaken and seem to somehow calm down and control themselves after a bit?

besides its their first time desiring guts and no place is more fitting than a battlezone:p

[Sleepy Speculator]

lol mosmos that's exactly what i was thinking

Regarding the whole 'magic armor or isley bequethed to raki' theory, it just seems that it was a telescopic mechanism that activated due to a forceful movement of Raki's hand, reminds me of telescopic batons, one swift movement and it extends. As for the rest of it, it pretty much is a claymore uniform without the form fitting shirt and leggins and identity collar the female claymores wear. I could write a checklist... pauldrons...vambrace... etc, but i think it's obvious

(yes there was obvious differences to the battlefield claymore at the start who awakened, but then that was obviously not an island claymore, and happened to also be on a battlefield where ceremonial and pretty stuff really isn't all that helpful, after all there are no peasants there to impress)

Secondly it may just be the translation but it seemed that Raki asked if the girl could identify which one was the yoma, it didn't explicity show that he couldn't sense the yoma himself. There is the obvious problematic indicator that his eyes weren't silver, and the fact that no one can tell if his hair is any different in a black and white manga (notice Clarice also hid beneath a cloak despite being on supressents). Yet he handles what appears to be the biggest sword seen so far single handedly with ease and at a speed to fight a yoma. I know he's been trained for some years by Isley, but you should bear in mind that Galk another human has a job where he pretty much is gonna receive alot of training too, it may not be swordmaster stuff, but you don't see him wielding a claymore single handed, despite a lifetime of being what amounts to a soldier.

And lastly it seems the group has already split to some extent, Miria took Cynthia and Tabitha to her meeting with Father Vincent, Clare, Helen, Deneve and Yuma are in the pub, and Galatea, Miata and Clarice are absent.

[Ancient Soul]

That soldiers in the first panels do you think they are "still humans"?I mean is see no point to sent "normal humans" in a fight anymore when both sides use "monsters".Maybe they are like the MiBs.Since that "monster" on human side 1 look like an AO it seem that The ORG (or human side 1) can create AO quite easy.

Also since the ones in The ORG are like immortals i think that the two sides are ruled by immortals too right now.

[clarakiss~]

it's interesting what cid told clare that 'raki leaves immediately after there is no news of clare.' that's sound kinda odd 'cuz raki already knows the girl he is with is not human and can read yoki.

so the girl probably tells him that there's also someone (galatea) like her who could read yoki in the city... thus wanting to leave as soon as possible so they don't want to get discovered by this person. well, that what i believe >.>

[Cyclone]

true, but how do u explain the girl? its confirmed she was in Rabona. Sure we don't know that she is a Ab or a yoma but just the same odds are its either Priscilla or Riful so how did Galatea miss that is going to need a big explanation

No need for a BIG explanation.
If my theory is right, and that is the daughter of Isley and Pricilla, then her youki potential probably drawfs that of Teresa herself. If Galatea wanted reinforcements for someone like Agatha, she's not going to pick a fight with a Abyssal that's just passing by that afternoon. The risk of awakening something like that in the city when it's leaving soon anyways in unacceptable.

No one said that Galatea DIDN'T notice her - we only know Galatea didn't kill her. The topic never came up with Galatea around though.

[tenken627]

Can someone who can read Japanese and has access to the Japanese raws verify something for me on the first page?

Two different Japanese -> Chinese -> English translations has Miria saying on the bottom right part of page 1:

"The youki release is easier for women than it is for men. Men cannot control their desires as well."

We've always thought that the reason why the Organization started using female Claymores instead of male ones was because males Awakened too easily.

But, from this quote, it makes it sound like women can release their youki easier than men can? Or that men have more difficulty in reaching their limit?

If you think about it, the Organization wanted their Claymores to Awaken. Would it be better to use girls if they were able to youki release more easily? Is that the true reason why male Claymores failed?

[Boduar]

Am I the only one who thought the little girl would fit Riful. The body size I think is about right and they both have the same goal in mind which is to find Clare even if its for different reasons. As for Raki being able to wield a big sword its training + genetics that allow him to do it. Some people could try their entire life and never do it but someone else could do it with only a few months or years of training because their genetics determine a higher muscle capacity.

[clarakiss~]

i wonder what raki meant by saying 'it isn't here either.' is he looking for something? a youma of some sort? and the girl's face he's with looks like priscilla.

[evil_kenshin]

i wonder what raki meant by saying 'it isn't here either.' is he looking for something? a youma of some sort? and the girl's face he's with looks like priscilla.

well it could be taken two ways

"it isn't here" in regards to an object, or "it isn't here" in regards to Clare's not at this location (like how someone looking for a place will say its not here either)

[chibamonster]

Now it is Raki's payback time. "Remember me? I am the kid you threw away because my family was killed by Yoma... " Although he probably does not have revenge on his mind.

[clarakiss~]

@ evil kenshin - why would raki call clare an 'it?' he would if he hated her very much and had a grudge against her or something but i'm thinking a youma who isn't clare. XD!!

[evil_kenshin]

@ evil kenshin - why would raki call clare an 'it?' he would if he hated her very much and had a grudge against her or something but i'm thinking a youma who isn't clare. XD!!

no no , i mean its like saying the location doesn't have Clare in it, his not calling Clare the "IT" but the place/town lol

[Cyclone]

Can someone who can read Japanese and has access to the Japanese raws verify something for me on the first page?

Two different Japanese -> Chinese -> English translations has Miria saying on the bottom right part of page 1:

"The youki release is easier for women than it is for men. Men cannot control their desires as well."

We've always thought that the reason why the Organization started using female Claymores instead of male ones was because males Awakened too easily.

But, from this quote, it makes it sound like women can release their youki easier than men can? Or that men have more difficulty in reaching their limit?

If you think about it, the Organization wanted their Claymores to Awaken. Would it be better to use girls if they were able to youki release more easily? Is that the true reason why male Claymores failed?

Well with that chinese group finally getting around to making a Japanese scanlation (for I'm starting to be convinced they the authors of all things Claymore and just blame Yagi for it), I'll be happy to do what I can.

It says:
我々の言う妖力開放。。。
What we call a youki release...

しかし女と違い男にとってその制御ははるかに至難
But, unlike women, for men keeping control is far more difficult

Again - I'm still learning this langauge so I may be wrong, but I think that's what it says (literally: far more than next to impossible [I think], but that just sounds stupid).

[PGilis]

After seven years, Raki is in GAR-Mode, but thanks God definitely not in GUTS-Mode.

He didn't became a strong but stoic and rude man, but a very lively, energic and gentle one instead. :)

Considerating how long his fight with the youma was, and how much swings of his swords he used, i'd say he is really strong and fast - almost at a youma level - but still human. Like i predicted months ago, probably he is now as strong as a #47 Claymore without using youki.

I wonder how much of that kid Raki who Clare got to like so much is still alive inside him...

no no , i mean its like saying the location doesn't have Clare in it, his not calling Clare the "IT" but the place/town lol

Maybe that was a mistranslation. Someone can confirm us if he really said "IT"?

[Cyclone]

i wonder what raki meant by saying 'it isn't here either.' is he looking for something? a youma of some sort? and the girl's face he's with looks like priscilla.

This one I'm having a bit of trouble with...

どうやらここにも
it seems like, here too,

いそうにないがな
seems like haven't transported/transfered?

いそう = transfer; transport; removal [that's the best match I can find in a dictionary, but I'm not sure about this.]

So in slightly less Engrish:

It seems like,
they were not through here either.

(note - japanese likes to omit the "obvious" parts of sentences, so it's not said who/what he's refering to. I assume it's Clare, in which case substiture "she was" for "they were")

Any other parts requiring immediate attention?

[williamaugustus]

i personally think that the girl with Raki is Prisillica. in chapter 55 you could see that she ws smaller than him. and she would not have grown due to being an AB. although he has grown and so she looks small compared to him.

how she hid her youma energy... well i dont think she is really doing it on purpose. i think it is more natural due to her loss of memory. she never has to use it and therefore it hides itself away. so Galeata would not sense it just like she had no clue the 'seven' were coming.

as for my prediction for the next chapter... i think it will go back to Clare's conversation with Cid and Galk. they will end up mentioning Prisillica's name (if it is actually her) and Clare will run off to try and find Raki. the other anti-org claymores will follow and Clare will end up having to explain her past (finally). about Teresa and Prisillica. how she chose to enter the org. how she is only 1/4 youma. how and where she got her right arm. so on and so on.

each of the others will then have their own reaction:
Helen will be all "OMG how the heck did you survive. blah blah."
Maria will be all "well that makes total sense. when we first met you had a powerful presence but did not have much power- it was her presence i felt. oh and i have heard stories of her but they never told of her death or what happened to #s 2-5. and how you used her technique."
Deneve will be all "so thats her story."
Galeata will remember late chapter 45 and early 46- whhen Riful talked of Isley's 'woman' and how Clare flipped out.
Yuma will realize the importance of the Teresa/Clare statue.
Tabitha and Cynthia will just be like "huh. whats going on."
Clarice will be like "there are even scarier ABs out there. i dont think i am cut out for this."
and finally Miata will be all "mama. feed me."
thats my prediction anyway.

[tenken627]

Well with that chinese group finally getting around to making a Japanese scanlation (for I'm starting to be convinced they the authors of all things Claymore and just blame Yagi for it), I'll be happy to do what I can.

It says:
我々の言う妖力開放。。。
What we call a youki release...

しかし女と違い男にとってその制御ははるかに至難
But, unlike women, for men keeping control is far more difficult

Again - I'm still learning this langauge so I may be wrong, but I think that's what it says (literally: far more than next to impossible [I think], but that just sounds stupid).

That would go along more with the story.

Instead of "it is easier for women to youki release", the more accurate translation might be "it is easier for women to control their youki release".

[^Sakon]

Wow, its been a while :D. Well, sure is alot of guessin goin around, not unusual for this forum though...<3 all the claymore junkies. My guess is the lil girl is Prissy, Isley gave Raki some of his flesh and pseudo hybridized him, but i was kickin around a lil story in my head on how it could be Riful. Riful and Dauf bust in on Isley and Prissy, Isley distpatches Dauf, and Riful throws a tantrum so they give her Raki to shut her up + enjoy during their trip to find Clare. (Hey since he is all badass mode, I'm sure he'd spark some interest in all the girls eyes, can you imagine what all the Ghosts who have seen him before are gonna act like? Be surprised if they don't try to rape the kid.lol)

[Vinak]

I personally feel Miria knows about Clare and what her potential is.

Why else would she follow her around for something so pointless like looking for a boy that is probably dead?(before ch.80 of course)

Miria's inside man (IMO Rubel) told Her about Clare and what her true potential is and that it is important for her to stay on her good side so they can take out the Org.

This would explain why Miria and Clare ran into each other 3 times. The first 2 AB hunts and The Norther War. Miria needed to gain Clare's trust.

I'd Imagine Rubel knew it would require Clare to pass her limits to gain access to her true potential, so he sent her on harder and harder missions. the second AB hunt made Clare feel she was being targeted by the Organization, so she would consider them her enemy. At the same time it helped her realize where her talents lie while taking out an AB under the control of the organization.

I predict that the next time Clare goes berserk, she is going to awaken. Since these experiments are towards controlling awakened beings, she is either going to retain her human consciousness or she is going to be able to return to a human form.


Raki is probably going to be the catalyst for Clare's Awakening.

[Synyster]

Secondly it may just be the translation but it seemed that Raki asked if the girl could identify which one was the yoma, it didn't explicity show that he couldn't sense the yoma himself. There is the obvious problematic indicator that his eyes weren't silver, and the fact that no one can tell if his hair is any different in a black and white manga (notice Clarice also hid beneath a cloak despite being on supressents). Yet he handles what appears to be the biggest sword seen so far single handedly with ease and at a speed to fight a yoma. I know he's been trained for some years by Isley, but you should bear in mind that Galk another human has a job where he pretty much is gonna receive alot of training too, it may not be swordmaster stuff, but you don't see him wielding a claymore single handed, despite a lifetime of being what amounts to a soldier.

Maybe he just took a pill to hide his yoki and change the eye color and the girl (which now I think is Priscilla) did it naturally and then the org cannot detect them if they are killing yoma in every town (for money, I guess).

[Vinak]

where would he get these pills? Isley? unlikely he's an AB he has no need for such things.
I certainly doubt the Organization hands out yoki suppression pills to strangers.

[Synyster]

I predict that the next time Clare goes berserk, she is going to awaken. Since these experiments are towards controlling awakened beings, she is either going to retain her human consciousness or she is going to be able to return to a human form.

Technically, Clare have more chances to return to her human form because she's only 1/4 yoma.

[Synyster]

where would he get these pills? Isley? unlikely he's an AB he has no need for such things.
I certainly doubt the Organization hands out yoki suppression pills to strangers.
Well, if Miria have a contact inside the org why Isley cannot also have one?

[Vinak]

Because he's an awakened being that isn't under the Org's control...an AO no less.

[Zsych]

That he has power the Org can't oppose should make things even easier for him. Like a mob boss, trying to get what he wants.