To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Wilfriback]

MW is missing by the time being.

[surerman]

MW is missing by the time being.

or may be in the next plan preparation.

I heard about Accelerator try to shoot Touma while in battle to save Misuzu (the Railgun Mother). May be someone plan to remove Misuzu and replace her with Full Tuning Misaka by use Misaka Worst. Full Tuning and Misuzu probably have similar appearance since they have same gene. And use Misaka Worst just make it look like daughter killed her own mother:rolleyes:

[sasuke706]

Season 2, Confirmed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-07/toaru-majutsu-no-index-2nd-season-green-lit)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5572/season2q.jpg

Oh how I look forward to this.

Oh, and something about a PSP game.


And didn't Crowley just want to kill Misuzu because she was trying to take Mikoto out of AC?

[Xenosnake]

Nice, though considering it's J.C. Staff, this doesn't really come as a big surprise. It was only a matter of time before they announced a sequel.

[pampz21]

I can't die until this season get out......I must stay alive...or else i'll regret dying....uuuuuhuhhhhggghhh!

[Shadow5YA]

Sadly, I'm not too excited about it. A lot of the action was toned down.

It's a shame the series isn't classified as a seinen. That way all the brutality can stay intact.

[tsunade666]

I can't die until this season get out......I must stay alive...or else i'll regret dying....uuuuuhuhhhhggghhh!

I second this!!!

But yap, that's right. Aleister ordered to kill Misuzu because she tried to take her daughter back. And many students are returning from Academy city when the news break out about the Roman Catholics attacking the Academy city.

And I think that's just normal. And even Aleister doesn't care much about the espers. A academy city which doesn't have students studying on it is useless and even if his ALEISTER CROWLEY and even stand against the Japanese Government. He couldn't do anything about it if they publicly decide to close the city due to no students enrolling on it.

[noobita]

I wonder, what would be Aleister reaction if Touma and Accelerator assumed "Dead"? Will this cripple show any emotion such as angry, piss off, frustration, sad and etc?

So, when is the retribution going to unleashed on those dark side? I kinda hate them getting away after what they done to the student, especially Aleister. Why Dr.Gekota..Why don't you just kill him?

[Wilfriback]

I wonder, what would be Aleister reaction if Touma and Accelerator assumed "Dead"? Will this cripple show any emotion such as angry, piss off, frustration, sad and etc?

So, when is the retribution going to unleashed on those dark side? I kinda hate them getting away after what they done to the student, especially Aleister. Why Dr.Gekota..Why don't you just kill him?

Once time he said after a talk:

Heaven Canceler: Have you forgot Aleister?
Aleister: ..... this is our last time I guess.*hangs the phone off*
Heaven Canceler: .... Have you forgot Aleister you still are one of my patients?

[Kleeyook]

@sasuke706
Thanks for informing me dood! U just gave me a 'new' meaning in my life. I'll stay alive as long as my hope of watching TAMNI S2 is bright! :D

[Chaos2Frozen]

I wonder, what would be Aleister reaction if Touma and Accelerator assumed "Dead"? Will this cripple show any emotion such as angry, piss off, frustration, sad and etc?

I wouldn't be suprise if he would just revive them using [Dark Legacy]



So, when is the retribution going to unleashed on those dark side? I kinda hate them getting away after what they done to the student, especially Aleister. Why Dr.Gekota..Why don't you just kill him?

This is abit more complicating, Aleister might be an evil manipulating bastard, but he's also the driving force behind Academy City. We're talking the home of 2 million people and the place for advancing science technology. If Aleister goes down, the city might follow after.

[Wilfriback]

I found a New character chart:


Looks like Bardway(the one below Lancis) has her own illustration on Kanzaki's SS, too bad I don't have the pic :S.

[Suzuku]

Do you have the link you found the character chart at?

[tsunade666]

I want to see the character chart too.

[Kleeyook]

Wanna see the new chart! :(

[Wilfriback]

It wasn't posted O_o???...... D:.

I'm going to upload it.

Edit:
Here is the chart:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5603/index2177.png



http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9999/index2189.jpg


http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/5038/index2192.jpg



On a side note, looks like Haimura's Twitter account got hacked... again.

[tsunade666]

I don't understand a thing.... even the info for vol 21 or game or even the new character map. I wish someone translate it like before.

EDIT:

what hacked again? what info's are stolen? or leaked? but what's with the twitter to begin with. Poor and lack of security.

[Wilfriback]

I don't understand a thing.... even the info for vol 21 or game or even the new character map. I wish someone translate it like before.

EDIT:

what hacked again? what info's are stolen? or leaked? but what's with the twitter to begin with. Poor and lack of security.
Kiyotaka said something about being the third account lost :heh:

[tsunade666]

oh great! the first time doesn't change much but the second time didn't teach anything at all then what about the third one? that's why I hate those type of sites facebook or twitter of even friendster.

[sasuke706]

Here is the chart:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5603/index2177.png


Wonder why the maker posted an incomplete version. A lot of connection lines are missing, the the Saint tags are missing, and I can't seem to find the Dvergr, if they're even on there. Seems a bit less organized, too.


On a side note, looks like Haimura's Twitter account got hacked... again.

He should probably create a better password. Did the hacker post anything?

[stillmissing]

Wonder why the maker posted an incomplete version. A lot of connection lines are missing, the the Saint tags are missing, and I can't seem to find the Dvergr, if they're even on there. Seems a bit less organized, too.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5987/30221740.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/30221740.jpg/)

[sasuke706]

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5987/30221740.th.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/30221740.jpg/)

Ah, thanks. In fear of derailing the thread, did you just browse 2ch to find it? I'd like to know if the maker has a dedicated blog or something so it's a wee bit easier to find. Also curious to as why he did away with the version numbers. Hell, this and the last one seem to be done by different people.

Edit: I apparently need binocular-size glasses, as there is a version number.

I'll probably edit this to English eventually. Well, the names that are easy to translate that aren't already translated, that is.

[stillmissing]

Ah, thanks. In fear of derailing the thread, did you just browse 2ch to find it?.

yes, sorry.

[pampz21]

reading the fight between accelerator vs touma remind me of the fight of Hibari and Ganma from KHR.....where Hibari predicts the path with less damage to himself rather than getting hit by all of it!

[tsunade666]

well that's what we call genius if you put it that way.

[LastResolve]

lol game? is it on PS3 WII Xbox360 what? plz give more info

[kuroishinigami]

it:s a psp game. Will come out around october or Q4 of this year IIRC

[Suzuku]

Hey guys, the Index wiki has a complete summary of chapter 20 up by The Observer.

http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_Light_Novel_Volume_20

Just click on the chapter titles to get the summaries of each chapter broken down into their parts.

[l3fty]

A few questions:
In episode 22 or so of the Index anime Touma couldn't receive the telepathic message, does this also happen in the novel?
Does Imagine Breaker weaken/cancel out gemstones and saints, or do they count as natural to it?

[Kyosuke_Nanbu]

Touma can't be affected by any telepathic power of Magic or Esper so he can't receive the message.

IB work on all supernatural power but Saints have powerful physical attack that can defeat Touma before he has a change to use IB.

[tsunade666]

or rather the Saints would just use their super human strength and beat out Touma. IB would work on supernatural powers and phenomenon but it wouldn't work on a strong being physically to begin with.

Any form of telepathic or teleporting or even a ritual type or area of effect where IB is present would ALL BE CANCEL OUT.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Well, it's not the fact that they have superhuman strength; Imagine Breaker can negate that, but rather is that they are just better trained at hand to hand combat.

[tsunade666]

While I'm reading some material for vol 20 and remembering some stuffs.

I remember something or rather I think of something that might connect all.

I wonder if imagine breaker real form is a dagger or a sword. The holy stone that Fianmma wants. His trying to complete his power but so far it's all related to Micheal and his holy right. And from the previews comments about Imagine Breaker and when I saw pointing a sword or rather standing on the top of Lucifer. I just thought that what if Imagine Breaker is the one Micheal Use to seal the Demon Lucifer and put him in his place.

It just felt great if it's real form is a sword or rather I prefer a dagger. I want to see Touma wield a dagger and cut paths the dimension destroying everything on his path. Just like what Fianmma said about him being the same as Fiamma. They both obliterate anything that blocks their path.

[l3fty]

I asked about the mental intrusions (telepathy) mostly because Mikoto wants to help Touma about his memories by finding Mental Out, who is an esper.

The feather spell effect was presented as permanent and considering that his personality is pretty much unchanged from before that incident it wouldn't present any new information to him, except perhaps his outings with Mikoto and his interactions with Index prior to it, so who knows.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I asked about the mental intrusions (telepathy) mostly because Mikoto wants to help Touma about his memories by finding Mental Out, who is an esper.

The feather spell effect was presented as permanent and considering that his personality is pretty much unchanged from before that incident it wouldn't present any new information to him, except perhaps his outings with Mikoto and his interactions with Index prior to it, so who knows.

I was under the impression that Mikoto did not understand the full circumstances of Touma's memory lost. If it was a normal case of Amnesia then the Queen might be able to cure him. But in Touma's case, it was the complete destruction of his braincells.


While I'm reading some material for vol 20 and remembering some stuffs.

I remember something or rather I think of something that might connect all.

I wonder if imagine breaker real form is a dagger or a sword. The holy stone that Fianmma wants. His trying to complete his power but so far it's all related to Micheal and his holy right. And from the previews comments about Imagine Breaker and when I saw pointing a sword or rather standing on the top of Lucifer. I just thought that what if Imagine Breaker is the one Micheal Use to seal the Demon Lucifer and put him in his place.

It just felt great if it's real form is a sword or rather I prefer a dagger. I want to see Touma wield a dagger and cut paths the dimension destroying everything on his path. Just like what Fianmma said about him being the same as Fiamma. They both obliterate anything that blocks their path.

I thought that the sword of the Archangel Michael was the 'Sword of Mercy', otherwise known as [Curtana=Original]. Unless granting the power of the Archangel is somehow different from the Archangel's actual sword.

Anyway, you probably should think bigger. With all the hints of Kamijo Touma being [La Persona superiore a Dio], whatever his power is- there's a chance it's higher than Angels. Here's my speculation, it's totally out of there and unproven but it's been bugging me for awhile.

I think that Imagine Breaker might be related to the 'Throne of God', which is said to represent God's authority and power. Since Touma's power is to negate/destroy all powers that doesn't exist from this world, it's like an admin kicking out things that doesn't belong in this world that 'God' created. I'm not saying he's God, but that Imagine Breaker is meant to carry out God's authority or law that things which doesn't belong in this world, shouldn't be in this world.

If this somewhat sounds familiar, it's probably because you heard it from someone with a similar power :heh:

P.S - By the way, people tend to forget, but Lucifer is still an Angel... Supernatural, Lol.

[tsunade666]

If it means to kick out thins which are alien to this world then that means that the god and angel aren't meant on that world too which is contradicting each other.

If his the co-admin of the world then again his against the creator of that world. It's acting as bipolar to each other which is confusing at all.

I just want to see him go into dark side of the force.

[Ashaman]

Angels aren't suppposed to descend to the human plane. Therefore they don't belong and the theory still stands.

I kind of like that idea actually.

[Chaos2Frozen]

If it means to kick out thins which are alien to this world then that means that the god and angel aren't meant on that world too which is contradicting each other.

If his the co-admin of the world then again his against the creator of that world. It's acting as bipolar to each other which is confusing at all.

I just want to see him go into dark side of the force.

Why not? Since when are Angels apart of this world? They aren't created from this world, they are created in Heaven, which is like a separate dimension/world/universe altogether.

As for God... That's why he is [La Persona superiore a Dio].

If you look at God from the Science side perspective, God is like a SYSTEM and not a being, the laws of physics and such that the world is bound to. The laws of physic could be considered God's 'authority' and the [Throne of God], Imagine Breaker, is to uphold that law. Also Imagine Breaker doesn't affect the lifeforce of the planet could be explain by that it is originally a part of nature in this world.

BUT... If Touma can somehow update Imagine Breaker like how Accelerator can update his Redirection... Maybe he can even deny the laws of this world.

[Master Assassin]

<joke>It might be that Touma's IB is some sort of the God Hands, and he apparently only have the right hand and is missing the left. And if he somehow awakens he'll be the Gene of Indexverse, defeating enemies not with a single punch, but hundreds of them in seconds!</joke>

Just joking, if any of you still think I'm serious.

At this time, according to what we've known is that his IB is in his right hand, can negate (supposedly) unnatural powers such as magic or esper ability, and as of volume 20 he is creative enough to use his ability's shortcomings (that he can't completely negate Accelerator's wings) as an advantage in combat. Any further upgrade, no matter how tiny... I can only think things will get interesting...

[tsunade666]

but his still considered weak no matter on how you look at it. Just like what Accelerator said. His power is still consider weak on it's own and I think that just add the fun on watching how the fight would develop knowing that the hero is weak (aside from Accelerator)

But really him being an admin of this "world" and moderating the entering of alien laws and removing them. I also like the idea but that didn't connect on fianmma wanting it. Because it would just erase his power even if Fianmma said that his the main course and he needed preparation for it. But from the vol 20 it looks like his only interested mostly on the "archangel Micheal" and it just be more connecting if his someone connected to it too. Though
it looks like curtana original is that sword which is used to finish of the fallen angel.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I've honestly not idea what Fiamma intends to do with Touma's Imagine Breaker, I saw a something on the Toaru wikia that said that Imagine Breaker could remove the Original Sin from his body completely- Doesn't sound reliable to me, but what would I know?

[Wilfriback]

I think that Imagine Breaker might be related to the 'Throne of God', which is said to represent God's authority and power. Since Touma's power is to negate/destroy all powers that doesn't exist from this world, it's like an admin kicking out things that doesn't belong in this world that 'God' created. I'm not saying he's God, but that Imagine Breaker is meant to carry out God's authority or law that things which doesn't belong in this world, shouldn't be in this world.
You have reminded me the main thing about God'r Right Seat, all their members are aligned with a position in the Heaven, but then who is aligned with the center?


P.S - By the way, people tend to forget, but Lucifer is still an Angel... Supernatural, Lol.
Not only that, Lucifer was the one who carried the Light and being on the top was equal to God.

[tsunade666]

wings that shines the brightest and most beautiful and he eventually starts to overthrow god but ended up being punished for it.

quite ironic is this world where ones teaching is the god is almighty and perfect but it ones start to question it they would only say what could a human being do to question a god's plan?

And if touma stands at the middle but his powers are currently doesn't fit for it. Unless the holy stone moves into the center of his body or his heart which maybe with it he can utilize it's full power by creating a space of unaffected by alien laws.

[Shadow5YA]

Touma's condition is known as retrograde amnesia, where he is unable to recall events before the trauma. Aside from the whole magic feather thing, Touma's condition is fairly common in that amnesia is usually associated with brain damage.

There is a misconception among some writers that amnesia can easily be cured. You must have seen some comedies where a person gets a head injury and can't remember anything, then near the end of the episode the person gets another head injury and suddenly he's cured of his amnesia. It doesn't work that way.

Realistically, there's no way for Touma to be cured, because that requires Touma's lost brain cells to be restored exactly the way it was before, from the cells themselves to all the complex folds and neural connections that are made between brain cells.

Fictionally, it's not hard. You could make magic to do anything. On the scientific side, you could make some claim that all cells have their own "memory" or data of every other cell in the body right down to a T, and when the body tries to repair a cell, it draws on that memory, then just have either the Heaven Canceller or the Queen stimulate the brain to repair itself. It's a stretch, but then again this is the same writer who gave Mikoto's arcade coin the destructive power of a mini-nuke, despite it going only three times the speed of sound.

[tsunade666]

Heaven's canceler would have cure him already if the fried brain cells could be cure. But the fact that the heaven's canceler doesn't do anything means his beyond repair on his field of science. Unless they do a round about way to fix it. Theirs no way of fixing it.

And for touma being the admin of the worlds standard. What if he goes hay wire like Tohno Shiki which from the perception of death to the origins of death can be seen. In touma's case
from mere illusion being killed he started killing the standards of this world too.

I love to see touma gain the ability of death god's perceptions. It's just that his using his fist is GAR but I want to see him utilize other stuffs. He uses his brain has tactics in battle but bare hands fighting is too much manly. I want to see him wield weapon too like Aqua with his 3.5 meter Ascalon.

[RPG_Fanatic]

Looks like someone has started translating chapter 8 of Volume 10.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_C hapter_8

[Wilfriback]

Looks like someone has started translating chapter 8 of Volume 10.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_C hapter_8
I'm sure that update was done by none than other than Teh_Ping.

Not only that there is also Volume 17, prologue and a part of the vol.20.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume17_P rologue

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume20_C hapter_4

[tsunade666]

among the chapters of the vol 20. The only thing I haven't read yet is chapter 3.

But I was surprised. That was an actual translation not a summary of vol 20 chapter 4 part 5. That explains the details on some stuffs.

[sasuke706]

Finished the chart. If there's any issues you can note with it, PM me.
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8338/acertainmagicalindexdra.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/acertainmagicalindexdra.jpg/)

I also read the summaries, and unless I misunderstood it, Rikou is oddly fluent in Russian. Makes me wonder if Touma knew another language before his amnesia.

[Suzuku]

After reading the summaries of volume 20 I can't wait to see it animated. It sounds like an awesome adventure.

[Wilfriback]

Finished the chart. If there's any issues you can note with it, PM me.
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8338/acertainmagicalindexdra.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/acertainmagicalindexdra.jpg/)

I also read the summaries, and unless I misunderstood it, Rikou is oddly fluent in Russian. Makes me wonder if Touma knew another language before his amnesia.

Well, Lessar is translating for him.

[Endscape]

Here's a silly question. Did vent do away with that horribly ugly make-up and piercings that she was wearing to help activate her Divine Punishment. Just wondering. Also, what happened to Yomikawa after Vol. 15. Thanks for answering.

[Suzuku]

Well, in volume 20 Vent apparently just has a new piercing to control the Queen of Adriatic, so at the very least she still has the piercing. And as far as I know nothing happened to her other than Accelerator cut contact with her by crushing his phone, so she's probably alright.

[tsunade666]

vol 20

between the lines chapters

In chapter 1 is when she is searching at the net and looking at the current status of the academy city and also she's been calling touma but no answer.

In chapter 2 while in her pda she's still hacking information about the war but she then encounter a whole new information not related to the war the attendance of Touma in
Daihaseisa and she discovered with it that the boy is still not in the city. And if the conversation on the phone is real he might not be in japan. The girl grew more worried and eventually grew tired of thinking and decides to rest the body and mind. Mikoto switch the PDA on one of the T.V. segments. Their are still lots of news about wars and shows had been interrupted just for the news on the war. Mikoto while switching programs at the net. Encounter an announcer that explains the situation at Russia and the footage might not be a live coverage but in the corner of it. Their is a boy with spiky hair style and a gekota strap on it's trousers.

Chapter 3 Misaka had confirmed that in boy shown in the corner of the news is Touma. More over that means his not in japan and now his walking in the most dangerous place in this war. She become more worried that he might be fighting again with someone powerful in a place Mikoto doesn't know. Information gathered on the PDA but it just show more unpleasant news. To acquire the information about the Experiment the name Imagine Breaker is found. IB is confirmed in Russia and in the independent country Elizarina. In the information their
is a map with it. And in the map their are marks. Mikoto suspects it's either the movement of the army of gakuentoshi or his. And an announcement from the director is issued. To suppress the imagine breaker for further leak of information on the outside organization. Leaking on information on the outside organization means Death but for some reason it doesn't apply on that boy. The aim of the group is to
get him back ALIVE as much as possible because the ability IB is so rare even in gakuentoshi that it has high value on it. However if getting him back is impossible then at least get his body back and put in a life support system. It's been approve by the general director. In that case, the thing that chief director's "Plan" can be continued though details cannot be inspected due to authority. Mikoto kept silent for a while. The number of men, their equipment, strategy and even the plan with the location on where they would be para-drop is been displayed on the PDA. Mikoto then turn off her PDA and head towards the district ( I don't know what district it is but maybe the same as the one touma,style and tsuchimikado enter with in vol 10 ( on my translation their is only heading to 2 district? but that's a confusing one ) )
To prevent the experiment that boy staked his life and confronted the darkness of gakuentoshi probably without knowing anything about it. But that's the truth for me and the sisters. (the last line.... is hard for me to read but it says (That boy has a big borrowing) maybe she meant that it's time to pay her dept on him? )

I don't know what chapter is this but it's after Mugino boarding the bomber and the kremlin report is been mentioned.
Their is another esper boarding the bomber. In this unit their is the special unit that meant to be para-drop to get the imagine breaker back. This people are not ability users but just plain old professionals. This special unit turn all unconscious in the center of it is a middle school girl sending sparks out of her body. And then she said. "I'm allowed to ride, right?". The pilot's body give warning all over. It tried to escape outside or even yell to inform the outside on what's happening but the sparks are faster than his body. The pilot's just stun their and can't even move his finger. Then the girl inform the pilot " go to russia ". Do the work that's been originally planned.

[Suzuku]

Here is The Observer's summary of the Intermission chapters in volume 20 from the Index wiki. They're more understandable and have a little more info.

Back in Academy City, there’s a tense atmosphere. Though the possibly is low, it’s not impossible for the Russian air force to break through and bomb Academy City. Due to Russia starting a world war, not even America can be counted on to help Japan. The Japanese Government starts to pressure Academy City to give in to the demands, but Academy City released a video in response: over 30+ intercontinental missiles fired towards Academy City being blown down at once by Academy City’s defences. Academy City says they have no obligations protecting anyone that’s not their allies, and though Russia haven’t used nuclear missiles it’s not impossible they wouldn’t cross that line. And even though Japan have their own Aegis battleships and PAC3 missiles maintained by taxpayers, they should still think about that problem.

Mikoto thinks that’s practically a threat made by Academy City, since they’re saying even though they have anti-air defence they won’t help the rest of Japan. Even though America’s aid is helpful it’s still 30 years behind Academy City’s technology and can’t be compared. Even a child knows American technology isn’t 100% reliable, and even if one missile gets past it means a great tragedy. Because of that, the majority of citizens have protested against the Japan government and wants them to focus on getting Academy City’s help to extend to their own cities. During this time, Academy City can practically do what they want.

Mikoto got all that info off the internet, including Russia’s declaration of war that was released all over the world. Mikoto also thinks Academy City’s image as ‘protector’ for Japan is ridiculously clean, to the extent that if there’s nothing hiding underneath it all it’s very suspicious. Mikoto called Touma multiple times but he didn’t pick up, and recently before he said he was in London while a coup was happening. She’s starting to wonder if he’ll ever get back to Academy City. District 23 restricted all civilian flights after the declaration of war, so it means it’ll be hard for him to get back. If he’s still outside then it’ll be even more dangerous for him then if he’s in Academy City, and she can’t just do nothing about this.

Mikoto is hacking into the Academy City network to find info. She found due to the war security have been increased, which reinforced the reality of war for her. She can’t find much about the war but she found plenty not related to it.

For example, from Daihasei festival she knows which school Touma goes to, and after hacking she found after ‘That phone call from London’ he never showed up at school again. From that it seems he’s really not in Academy City or even in Japan.

She feels tired from all the hacking and decides on a change of pace and tries to change her PDA towards a entertainment channel. While channel-hopping she paused after seeing one of the news reports. On the edge of the camera view they can see a teenager with black spiky hair, and a Gekota mascot/charm hanging out of his pocket, and they wonder who can this person be.

Mikoto hacked into Academy City’s top secret files to look up current information on Touma. Mikoto knew about Touma’s ability being called ‘Imagine Breaker’, but still don’t know the details of the ability. She also found Touma is somewhere around Russia and the country Elizerina. The commanders of Academy City’s military force from the dark side considered dealing with Touma like any other espers who might leak information to ‘outside’ organisations – death. But they received orders from Aleister to capture him alive (if possible) as the main goal, since even in Academy City Imagine Breaker is an extremely rare ability.

"[However,

If it’s certain that Imagine Breaker is going to join another organisation and leave Academy City, then swiftly strike at Imagine Breaker and ‘recover’ him and put him into the same kind of container as the Number Two is currently in, in order to minimise the negative effects. This will be the secondary goal.

Currently, it has been confirmed Imagine Breaker is working together with people from ‘outside’ organisations.

If it is only a temporary alliance, then action will be put off until later. But if it is confirmed the target has deeply involved himself then the secondary goal will be triggered.

The General Superintendant has granted permission on this matter.

In the worst case situation, though we do not have clearance to see the details, this could affect the General Superintendant’s ‘Plan’ from continuing.]"

Mikoto was shocked at this, but also felt it was probably true. She also found the paratroopers are already stationed in district 23 and ready to go. Mikoto headed to district 23, thinking Touma had once stepped up against the darkness of Academy City to save her and her SISTERs, probably without knowing just what horrors wait for someone that interfered. But it was also true he managed to save the SISTERs. Mikoto feels she owes Touma a great debt, and it’s time to at least pay him back even a little bit.

Mugino is in Academy City's District 23, onboard a HsB-02 ready to go to Russia and hunt down Shiage. Meanwhile Misaka Mikoto attacked the HsB-02 ready to depart and capture Kamijou Touma, telling the pilot to follow the original plan and just head to Russia even with her onboard, unless he wants to feel pain and death beyond imaginable. The professionals armed with the latest technology on board were already defeated by Mikoto.

As they say, never mess with a young girl in love. :heh:

[Shadow5YA]

Heaven's canceler would have cure him already if the fried brain cells could be cure. But the fact that the heaven's canceler doesn't do anything means his beyond repair on his field of science. Unless they do a round about way to fix it. Theirs no way of fixing it.

And for touma being the admin of the worlds standard. What if he goes hay wire like Tohno Shiki which from the perception of death to the origins of death can be seen. In touma's case
from mere illusion being killed he started killing the standards of this world too.

I love to see touma gain the ability of death god's perceptions. It's just that his using his fist is GAR but I want to see him utilize other stuffs. He uses his brain has tactics in battle but bare hands fighting is too much manly. I want to see him wield weapon too like Aqua with his 3.5 meter Ascalon.

Like I said, realistically, there's no way to cure amnesia, because there's no way to repair damaged brain cells.

However, Kamachi has taken liberties with science, so it's not hard to imagine him doing the same for Touma's situation. Or, if science can't do it, Kamachi can always chalk it up to being god's miracle.

[Chaos2Frozen]

And for touma being the admin of the worlds standard. What if he goes hay wire like Tohno Shiki which from the perception of death to the origins of death can be seen. In touma's case
from mere illusion being killed he started killing the standards of this world too.


Which was what I've said, that maybe Touma could update his Imagine Breaker like how Accelerator could update his Redirection. Maybe in the not too distant future, Touma could negate Newton's law :heh:

[tsunade666]

I wish he could negate the rules of this world as an update on his database.

[kuroishinigami]

lol. Then he will be flying all over and be too much overpowered(physical attack won't work on him once he break the natural physical law such as gravity and kinetic energy).

[tsunade666]

nyah, that's the point. I just want to see touma as one of the bad guys. Maybe the one who side by side with Aleister and Aiwass as last boss enemies.

I wonder how the others would react.

[Nya~n]

Touma somehow regains his memories by implanting Aiwass and Aleister's memories into his mind. As it turns out, the 3 have been working together right from the start to lead up to whatever point it is by then.

heavens, what have i been smoking?

[Marcus H.]

Debunked. Aiwass is interested with how everything it turns out, but he/she/it never said that his/her/its interest includes getting in on the show.

[tsunade666]

his more like a side character now but I bet if it turns into more interesting. He would eventually enter the stage.

[MrTerrorist]

I got a question.
Who is the Maiden of Versailles and is she immortal and how is she related to Elizarina and do both of them share the same powers or something?

[Wilfriback]

I got a question.
Who is the Maiden of Versailles and is she immortal and how is she related to Elizarina and do both of them share the same powers or something?


...twin sisters.
M.o.V. is the mind controlling France and the one who plotted the attacks towards Englnad(example, the plane hijicking incident), while Elizarina is the leader of... Elizarina(they gave the same name to the independent country, lol).
About their powers I don't know much, the M.o.V. seems to be a warrior too, she has sword(probably obtained from the RCC) called Durandal sword which overwhelmed Knights leader magic defense(Solomon's Forumula) with ease because the spell doesn't works on UK's royalty and she is descendant of one of England' nobles and also moves faster than the speed of the sound.
In the other hand her sister Elizarina, has showed magic based on the right hand(Fiamma laughed at her for being enough foolish to try to use the right hand against Fiamma of the Right).

[Suzuku]

Why did France attack England? I forgot.

[Wilfriback]

Why did France attack England? I forgot.


I'm not clear on this but it seems to be old grudges from the bloody story between France and England, one the largest Magic Cabal of France, the Orleans Knights, was wiped out by William Orville(Acqua of the Back) practically single-handedly back in the days when he was still a mercenary and before he joined God’s Right Seat, all to save a boy he just met. Of course, the frenchs were not amused.

[KiraYamatoFan]

As they say, never mess with a young girl in love. :heh:

:D :D :D

I can't wait to see that. If it goes down to it, she would burn Moscow down to the ground (reminds of MW2 quotes) just to get Touma out of there.

[Suzuku]

I'm not clear on this but it seems to be old grudges from the bloody story between France and England, one the largest Magic Cabal of France, the Orleans Knights, was wiped out by William Orville(Acqua of the Back) practically single-handedly back in the days when he was still a mercenary and before he joined God’s Right Seat, all to save a boy he just met. Of course, the frenchs were not amused.
Oh yeah I remember reading something about that. Thanks. ^^

:D :D :D

I can't wait to see that. If it goes down to it, she would burn Moscow down to the ground (reminds of MW2 quotes) just to get Touma out of there.
She might just have to considering the idiot is going to launch an all out assault on the main Russian base lol.

EDIT: I was just reading the first couple chapters of Railgun and one of the teachers said that AIM fields couldn't be detected by the five human senses an that they needed machines in order to do so. So that got me thinking that maybe the reason Touma can subconsciously feel a person's AIM field is because he has a sixth sense that's connected to his Imagine Breaker? What do you guys think?

[giorno]

about durandal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland

it's likely that the soldiers from the dark side know of Touma's location, so Mikoto will probably know as well...

also, a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes brought Accelerator to Elizarina....mm, Aurrelus?

i can see Touma meeting up with Acqua and Shiage, while Accel is in Elizarina, looking at the kremlin report and making up a battle plan along with Aurrelus to fight Fiamma...

i also see Mikoto ending up meeting Touma, only for him to tell her to get back to AC ASAP and even tell her she's a burden to try and convice her...and if that fails, he'll knock her out and have someone take her away to safety...

[Suzuku]

I think Touma and Mikoto's meeting will be while he's getting his ass whooped by Fiamma and will need her to get hurt for him to go crazy and overpower Fiamma. So I don't think he'll get a chance to tell her to go back. It'll be funny when her and Lessar meet though and both end up travelling with Touma in Russia.

[Wilfriback]

The preview of the Vol.21 has been translated:

October 30th, after eleven days after the outbreak of World War III.
Three boys, with their secret thoughts, had ran into flames in Russia.
To cure the former ITEM member, Takitsubou Rikou, Hamazura Shiage is searching for a treatment.
The key is his encounter with the God's Right Seat member, the saint Acqua of the Back.
The 'strongest' esper, Accelerator, after a battle with the weakest rival, is being transferred to Elizarina Independent Alliance.
Accelerator still haven't found any lead of a way to save Last Order.
The key is the magic that contains a mysterious parchment.
Kamijo Touma to finally encounter Fiamma, used discretion to escape.
The event where Index returns to full health has not come true.
The key to that is the resident of another dimension who calls itself a 'Angel'
Three different hidden feelings, when when science and the magic cross, the story starts-!

Credits to Lero & The Observer from OneManga.

Edit:
Teh_Ping has translated parts 1-5 of the Chapter 8 of the Vol.10.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_C hapter_8#Chapter_8:_Light_of_a_Night_Sky

Thanks to Teh_Ping.

One can dream, but it would be the hell of fun if Teh Ping and Joay finishes the vol.11 having translateds the posible contents for the 2nd season XD.

[surerman]

i also see Mikoto ending up meeting Touma, only for him to tell her to get back to AC ASAP and even tell her she's a burden to try and convice her...and if that fails, he'll knock her out and have someone take her away to safety...

Isn't that what we call a Disaster?

Mikoto will not take Lessar existence so easily if Touma said she's just a Guide or Translator. More like Chaos will ensued, between the Railgun and the Succubus :heh: and if Touma didn't use his brain right, bunch of Thunder Cloud will start gathering in the sky above their head:heh:

Touma will save with his right hand but Lessar will burn to crisp :D once one of the Thunderbolt hit her.:p

[pampz21]

Neh...I've been thinking maybe Touma knows the secret of IB but he has forgotten....or maybe in the past someone or Touma himself seal the IB only to his right hand..so he won't destroy anything???....

[MrTerrorist]

...twin sisters.
M.o.V. is the mind controlling France and the one who plotted the attacks towards Englnad(example, the plane hijicking incident), while Elizarina is the leader of... Elizarina(they gave the same name to the independent country, lol).
About their powers I don't know much, the M.o.V. seems to be a warrior too, she has sword(probably obtained from the RCC) called Durandal sword which overwhelmed Knights leader magic defense(Solomon's Forumula) with ease because the spell doesn't works on UK's royalty and she is descendant of one of England' nobles and also moves faster than the speed of the sound.
In the other hand her sister Elizarina, has showed magic based on the right hand(Fiamma laughed at her for being enough foolish to try to use the right hand against Fiamma of the Right).



Thanks for the answers.
How long has the MOV been ruling france? It it's long does that mean she & Elizarina are immortal?

[Ashaman]

Edit:
Teh_Ping has translated parts 1-5 of the Chapter 8 of the Vol.10.

Thanks to Teh_Ping.

One can dream, but it would be the hell of fun if Teh Ping and Joay finishes the vol.11 having translateds the posible contents for the 2nd season XD.

Also, 2 more parts of chap 10 of volume 13 have been translated.

Thanks to... whoever is doing vol 13 as well.

Wilfri, you forgot vol 8 needs to be trans too.:)

[noobita]

Japan Prime Minister : Knowing that A.C have the latest technology in the world which they refuse to share with anyone and esper who can single-handedly wipe out an army..not one but 1.8 millions esper, I seriously didn't see this coming at all that A.C. going to threaten us and try to take over the Japan and world...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Japan Prime Minister : Knowing that A.C have the latest technology in the world which they refuse to share with anyone and esper who can single-handedly wipe out an army..not one but 1.8 millions esper, I seriously didn't see this coming at all that A.C. going to threaten us and try to take over the Japan and world...
You're a little late you know? It was mention in earlier volumes that Academy city is the leader of half of the world's power, the part under science. Just as how the Vatican is the leader of the other half of the world.

[Wilfriback]

Found something about the Precognition:

As with other forms of extrasensory perception, the existence of precognition is not accepted by the scientific community, because no replicable demonstration has been achieved. Scientific investigation of extrasensory perception (ESP) is complicated by the definition which implies that the phenomena go against established principles of science. Specifically, precognition would violate the principle that an effect cannot occur before its cause.
The existence of this phenomenon is widely rejected by the scientific community.
At a mystical level the precognition is associated with a spiritual ability.

If is Touma, I'm sure that the last line fits him the most.

[tsunade666]

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.

[Shadow5YA]

Like I said, Kamachi has made errors in his science before.

Also, it's not like sensing brain waves (AIM fields) exists in the real world. The closest form of precognition you could get in the real world is just simple prediction from experience, but even that has errors because of how difficult it is to consistently read human thought.

You could say that with precognition, you could see your enemy's invisible crosshair. It's as if they were broadcasting their attack, like bosses following a set pattern in third person action games. You can't really measure something like that with normal science, but AC has AIM fields.

[Wilfriback]

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.

Well, since the matter about precognition is debatable is not that surprising, also Accelerator althought he is from Academy City he believes in beings like angels and also God in the heavens.

[Suzuku]

what his not esper, his not mage, his just your freaking GAR super HERO ><

But if it's not accepted by science. I' surprise that Accelerator the strongest esper would utter that word.
I think Touma is a divine being, like Aiwass, Crowley, and the angels. His powers are not magic or scientific, and he surpasses them both.

Like I said, Kamachi has made errors in his science before.

Also, it's not like sensing brain waves (AIM fields) exists in the real world. The closest form of precognition you could get in the real world is just simple prediction from experience, but even that has errors because of how difficult it is to consistently read human thought.

You could say that with precognition, you could see your enemy's invisible crosshair. It's as if they were broadcasting their attack, like bosses following a set pattern in third person action games. You can't really measure something like that with normal science, but AC has AIM fields.
AIM fields aren't brainwaves though.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I think Touma is a divine being, like Aiwass, Crowley, and the angels. His powers are not magic or scientific, and he surpasses them both.
Crowley is still human though.

[Suzuku]

^ True... but he's obviously not a normal human.

[Shadow5YA]

AIM fields aren't brainwaves though.

AIM fields is just the energy field espers produce, but since esper powers stem from the brain, you could still say that AIM fields are indirectly the byproduct of the brain.

[tsunade666]

I doubt his still your average human. Just what like said above ^ I can't classify him as human. Last boss always tends to go insane with 2 or 3 transformation/change before finally beating him.

[noobita]

What if Touma = Buddha or Asura

Aleister : WTF...the bible didn't tell me anything about this...
Touma : Try Indian or Chinese Sutra...

and suddenly we going to see more "XX" being from certain country come to play.

Magician Vs Monk Vs Esper Vs Angel Vs Mummy VS (Insert other)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Now There's an interesting topic: Where do Pagan Deities stand in this?

We've heard a few of them over the course of the story, Aztecs gods like Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, the god of Venus (the planet), whose 'spear' was replicated, and if my theory is correct, Tecciztecatl the old moon god was reference in the grimoire [Rabbit and Moon]. The famous Norse God of thunder Thor and his various magical items (Hammer, Belt, Iron Gloves) were replicated into [New Light] weapons. Odin, chief God of Norse mythology was mentioned through his Throne, which was somehow related to Aurrelus' magic. The closest mentioning of oriental deities are the four beasts- Seiryu, Suzaku, Byakko, and Genbu. Egyptian gods were also mentioned, but only in name as Thelema has nothing to do with the actual Egyptian religion.

My personal speculation is that Pagan deities aren't exactly 'gods' in the omnipotent sense, more like a powerful magic being... Like a Dragon, or hell, they might just be humans that attain a high level of magical knowledge, just like how some spells aren't base on Angels or Deities, but on actual human beings like Knights and Saints. If I were to be dramatic, I'll suggest that maybe they were kicked out of the planet by the Angels some 2000 years old, as seen in the rise of Abrahamic religions.

[Marcus H.]

I don't think so. Angels can be called as different names in different religions.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I don't think so. Angels can be called as different names in different religions.

I was under the impression that term 'Angels' are used only in Abrahamic religions?

[tsunade666]

angels are use in mostly all religions with different termed used. Angels are messengers of god or servants of gods that had wings.

[Chaos2Frozen]

angels are use in mostly all religions with different termed used. Angels are messengers of god or servants of gods that had wings.

Yes, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, all Abrahamic religions like I've said.

In terms of Canon, the one that we have that is possibly non-abrahamic related is Aiwass. Aside from that, I don't recall any other pagan religion that uses 'Angels'. Anyway, sticking with Canon info- the Angels I'm refering to are stricting those created by God. Even if there are other deities that employ their own angels, I don't thing they're the same as what we've seen in the story.

So going around in one big circle; Where do Pagan Deities stand in toaruverse?

[tsunade666]

I don't have a clue.

But if we're talking about angels in toaruverse. Isn't the angels of the Christianity the best bet for it?

[Wilfriback]

Suddenly, Dark Matter (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5).

[tsunade666]

huh..........

I don't know anymore. I just love to have translations but it's an inconsistent and just translate what's the climax type of translation.

[Ashaman]

Suddenly, Dark Matter (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5).

Who else thought Accels last line was incredibley badass?

"While we’re at it I’ll teach you what it means to be a Villain."

[tsunade666]

it just gives me the urges to read it. grr

Now I wonder if I should be reading the rest of it. But it's hard me to read this one because of the lots of unfamiliar kanji and new names that aren't added yet at my database. They can't be translated.

I wish someone would post the kanji and corresponding name of each character of toaruverse.

[noobita]

angels are use in mostly all religions with different termed used. Angels are messengers of god or servants of gods that had wings.

Well...Chinese "angel" don't have wing. But most of them riding cloud, does this count as well? :D

[surerman]

Well...Chinese "angel" don't have wing. But most of them riding cloud, does this count as well? :D

AH! so Noobita is a chinese people:D

riding cloud?, isn't it not only angel but also deity?, like Dragon, Youkai, Budha, ...even Sun Mo Kong (the Monkey King)?
I think it's not only angel but all Supernatural in Chinese mythology

they use "Goddesses" than Angel and the Goddesses use some scarf or something like Elsee Hagoromo (The World God Only know) and sit on a lotus flower:rolleyes:

now this talk bring memory about Avatar animated series...:heh: while people fly, summon nature force, and "bend" it with Kung fu.

It'll be awesome if Touma can do it too, since Accelerator already can 'bend' vector.

:D :D :D

let see:
Mikoto Misaka = Azula (prince Zuko sister) Thunder Bender
Accelerator = Avatar deity (Bend all thing around him)
Touma = Aang as Avatar (Energy Bending) Strip off/negate any power

[MrTerrorist]

Got a question
Is Misaka Worst dead or not coz there was an edit war at wiki that one source says she's still alive while the other says she isn't? Which is right?

[Marcus H.]

She isn't dead AFAIK. She, however, manages to witness the dark side of Accelerator.
I haven't checked if his rampage actually killed her in the process.

[Wilfriback]

When Accelerator was on a rampage, she still was alive regreting for pushing Accelerator too far, this implies she just dissapeared, so her whereabouts are unknown for the time being. Of course she still is injured.

[cubicjack]

Got a question
Is Misaka Worst dead or not coz there was an edit war at wiki that one source says she's still alive while the other says she isn't? Which is right?

Yes, as far as readers are aware, she's still alive. What happened to her after her battle with Accel was not stated. Given her condition, it's possible that she has died or has been killed, but we don't know for sure.

[tsunade666]

I thought she commit suicide thanks to the almighty program inside of her brain.

[cubicjack]

I thought she commit suicide thanks to the almighty program inside of her brain.

Yes she did attempt suicide. She triggered the explosion of a component embedded inside of her and should have died, but Accelerator used his ability to prevent her from dying on the spot. She was still alive when Accelerator left. What happened to her after that was not stated, though.

[Wilfriback]

Suddenly, hair depilation. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume13_C hapter10#Part_5)

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Accel actually pulled off quite a good attempt at fighting before Kihara used that cheap-ass move and destroyed the chip. Then Index suddenly comes to the rescue. I bet he's glad he let Index destroy his wallet before. :heh:

I'm guessing Black Wings will awaken right after this?

[tsunade666]

oh great. I just can't understand the release now. But it's a good thing they showed this up.

The next part would be the first release of black wings or not. Not sure but it's getting nearer and nearer on the climax.

[Bordix]

Suddenly, Dark Matter (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5).

I've always thought Kakine was more ruthless than Accelerator, I guess not. I hope the translator translates the entire vol so we can really dig deeper on other character's personality, but that's probably asking too much.

Suddenly, hair depilation. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume13_C hapter10#Part_5)

Accelerator struggling, doing what he can despite running out of juice. Somehow I see this as a comedy scene :heh:

Index suddenly comes to the rescue. I bet he's glad he let Index destroy his wallet before. :heh:



I actually think she's there to harvest whats left of Accelerator's wallet.

[Wilfriback]

I actually think she's there to harvest whats left of Accelerator's wallet.
Accelerator: It could be that somebody has come to help me??
*Index get close to Accelerator and picks up his wallet*
Index: With this would be enough.
Accelerator: T_T ... such stupidity! *awakens*

[surerman]

Accelerator: It could be that somebody has come to help me??
*Index get close to Accelerator and picks up his wallet*
Index: With this would be enough.
Accelerator: T_T ... such stupidity! *awakens*

how come a nun become a robber?:twitch:
ah yeah! this is manga after all:eyespin: where Angel can be made *looking at Accelerator*, Nun become Psycho, and Thunder can summoned from a strand of Ahoge *looking at Thundere Mikoto*

Wait! Index only or with some one else?, without Johann Pen mode, Index is useless, since she's normally can't use any magic nor have strong body/attack. Or does she help Albino-lerator boy with her appetite to gobble up the bad guy like Homonculus Gluttony (Full Metal Alchemist) do?:heh:

Index: what is that? *stare at Accel hand*
Index: Aaammm...munch... munch *eat Kihara's hair+skin in Accel hand* gulp!
Kihara: *get some chill down his spine*:heh:

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Accelerator: It could be that somebody has come to help me??
*Index get close to Accelerator and picks up his wallet*
Index: With this would be enough.
Accelerator: T_T ... such stupidity! *awakens*

If that actually happens I will lol so hard. Poor Accel.

[Wilfriback]

Here is the continuation of the fight between those monsters The fights starts, six wings. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_3)

[tsunade666]

Here is the continuation of the fight between those monsters The fights starts, six wings. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_3)

Thanks to the sudden translation I can't do my assignment :D 1:31 am :uhoh: 3 hours till doom :heh:

[Ashaman]

Here is the continuation of the fight between those monsters The fights starts, six wings. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_3)

Well, someone got curbstomped. So that is the difference between 1 and 2

I'm not sure if this line was actual narrative or author note, but it raises an interesting point:

''If after doing this much one is still called a Villain, then just what does a Hero in Accelerator’s mind have to do?!''

That is a very good question.

[tsunade666]

''If after doing this much one is still called a Villain, then just what does a Hero in Accelerator’s mind have to do?!''

That is a very good question.

I also ask the same question after reading that part.

But one thing comes on my mind after reading it.

Accelerator is called a villain because he will surely KILL his enemy but still protected the other people who are not his enemies. That is the current Accelerator

but the "hero" in his mind will surely SAVE anyone including the "ENEMY" in front of him.

It's pretty ironic if you ask me :heh:

Their is a clear difference between rank 1 and 2 from 3 and below but still rank and 1 and 2 are still had huge gap between them... :heh: :heh: :heh: monster

[Chaos2Frozen]

I missed this side of Accelerator, powerful and confident. We already have enough 'heroes' in this story...

[shmaster]

Well, someone got curbstomped. So that is the difference between 1 and 2

I'm not sure if this line was actual narrative or author note, but it raises an interesting point:

''If after doing this much one is still called a Villain, then just what does a Hero in Accelerator’s mind have to do?!''

That is a very good question.

Exactly why Touma and Eiwas think Accelerator is delusional and make believing. Completely over-glorifies some ideals that simply isn't realistic or believe it to be something that it really isn't....
and it seems he does this just to downplay himself as some form of self torture.

[Teh_Ping]

And so I just got discharged from the hospital (Been in there since Friday). Regarding the details, well, it's on my B-T page. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_C hapter_8#Part_6)

[giorno]

WELCOME BACK TEH_PING

we really missed you ;__;

[tsunade666]

what the heck happen teh_pin bro? what made you go to hospital?

btw thanks for the translation.

And Accelerator is just being to humble or rather she just want to view himself as a villain and not a hero and their is only one hero in front of his eyes. Despite all his efforts that he had done. He still thinks it's not enough to pay back all the lives he took away.

[surerman]

what the heck happen teh_pin bro? what made you go to hospital?

I guess he's lost to Nature in Military training (like being bitten by snake or illness) or shoot by his opponent in Battle Simulation.
Stamina should be no problem since Singapore very care about their soldier or their health. (I meet one of them in the past at other country....too bad...very close to my prey)


btw thanks for the translation.

And Accelerator is just being to humble or rather she just want to view himself as a villain and not a hero and their is only one hero in front of his eyes. Despite all his efforts that he had done. He still thinks it's not enough to pay back all the lives he took away.
Yeah! thanks for the translation


There's no way to pay back murderer...this is why I've been keep in this place.;)

One life is very precious, since one life born to this world isn't belong to him/herself, but other person like his parents family, his own family, his friends, and his creator.
Once it lost unnaturally, some scenario (fate) will differ from how it supposed to be, make the future different....and make some one else (people the one belong to) sad.

If there's a way to pay it back, may be I'll be set free to do it. Like save an amount of Natural Disaster victim or do some public (for all human) service till some designated time.:rolleyes:
But even so...my own life can't reimburse any lost I cause till today.:(
The family whose their member life lost in my hands will never accepted it for sure

oh! btw...don't think I'm a good person because I said this:p

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Welcome back Teh_Ping! Wait, why were you in the hospital?! Is it anything serious?!

Exactly why Touma and Eiwas think Accelerator is delusional and make believing. Completely over-glorifies some ideals that simply isn't realistic or believe it to be something that it really isn't....
and it seems he does this just to downplay himself as some form of self torture.

I think Accelerator bases all of his ideals on his perception of the person who really changed him - Touma. Because he was the one who murdered the Sisters and Touma was the one who stopped the experiment, he can only ever view himself as a villain and Touma as an ultimate hero, no matter what happens.

So basically, yeah, he has low self-esteem.

The thing is, Touma does practically get away with saving just about everyone besides half of the Sisters, I think. You can kinda see where Accel is coming from.

[shmaster]

Though, my problem with Accelerator's way of thinking is.... he is denying his own possibility.
Also, one who does not believe himself cannot protect another, as the protection offered would eventually become a burden.
Accelerator, if you truly wants to protect Last Order, begin with believing yourself to be worthy.

And worst of all, his self loathing has escalated into the realm of arrogance, thinking that no one can get dirtier than you. What a horrible excuse to make so you don't have to change yourself......

[Bordix]

Accelerator looked at the ground, and saw a walking stick nearby. Probably something that flew near him from the spectators that were affected by their fight. Now, accompanying the uproar they’ve caused several hundred people has crowded around.

But Accelerator showed no intention of hiding. Other small fries will take care of covering up the incident, there’s no point in worrying about this himself.

“…”

Looking back,

In the centre of the crossroad that’s in upheaval, Kakine Teitoku is lying there on the ground. The white wings that had their control of the vectors being taken from them have stabbed through Kakine. A puddle of blood is slowly spreading, as if an unknown magic circle is slowly taking shape.

However, Dark Matter is still alive.

And Accelerator is a Villain, not one of the ‘good guys’.

At this time, one of those puke-inducing ‘Good guys’ will probably leave it at this, and turn to walk away. Or maybe they will even be merciful, staying to take care of the wounds the ‘bad guy’ suffered, and point him a new direction in life to make everything better. But now, Accelerator only wordlessly pulled out a gun from its holster on his side. From the instant Kakine Teitoku decided to involve civilians and Last Order in his fight against Accelerator, he never had the thought of forgiving him. This is probably the difference between a ‘good guy’ and a ‘bad guy’, Accelerator thought as an aside.

“Farewell, scum-bag.”

Accelerator cocked the gun with his thumb, and said in a quiet voice to the still comatose Kakine.

“Well, this is probably better than being taken down by one of those Heroes.”

His index finger is on the trigger. It’s all over. Not relying on the kindness of others, nor miracles from the heavens; this is the future on the path of Evil that is carved by Accelerator’s own actions. Accelerator carried out his actions in his own style, and pointed the gun at the enemy’s head, and slowly putting strength into his right hand.

There is only one step left to the end of everything, and the peace that’s built on death.

“Stop, Accelerator!”

A loud voice sounded out from outside his view. From the crowd gathered a familiar face jumped out. Wearing a green jersey that’s ridiculously unfashionable, and her face that have no make-up on it. She’s a school teacher and also one of the Anti-Skill that keep the peace.

Yomikawa Aiho.

She ran straight towards him.

“I don’t know where you went, or what this current situation mean. But, all I have to say is this: Give me the gun. That’s not something you need!”

Yomikawa doesn’t have a gun on her. She doesn’t even have special batons, tasers or anything that is for self-protection. Everyone watching might think she’s an idiot. Facing a rampaging esper that did this much damage, going in with unarmed is almost like suicide.

Yomikawa probably know just how dangerous the situation is herself.

Or putting it another way, as an Anti-Skill standing on the frontlines, she understands far better than bystanders just how dangerous her actions are.

“I’m a Villain.”

“Then I’ll stop you.”

“Are you serious?”

“Apart from that I have no other choice.”

Not defeating him, but just stop him. That’s her way of doing things. Just like how Accelerator chose a life of a Villain, Yomikawa would never agree with methods that point a weapon at the children that they need to protect. Accelerator stared into Yomikawa’s eyes. Those eyes shone out with determination. In Accelerator’s view this is a way of life that is beyond foolish, but to her this is something that is worth giving up her life.

“It doesn’t matter whether you are a Villain or Hero, Accelerator, nor is what kind of world that you are involved in. for me, what’s most important is bringing you back. No matter how dark or cold your world is, I’ll never give you up, and drag you back!”

In this instant, the two of them share the same position. This has nothing to do with being the strongest Level 5 in Academy City or an adult with no power of her own; Yomikawa Aiho is blocking Accelerator’s way.

“That’s why I have to stop you. For the children I must protect, and for the dearly-loved peace. Where you and Last Order can both happily live together. For such a future, the gun in your hand is unnecessary.”

“…”

Accelerator wordlessly finished listening to her words.

He came to a conclusion.

The gun that was pointed at Kakine turned and pointed towards Yomikawa.

(So,)

Yomikawa is an enemy. Even if she’s one of the ‘good guys’, even if her reason is for Accelerator’s own good, her actions are impeding the way of Accelerator’s path of Evil.

So she must be eliminated; but she doesn’t have to be killed. If he wants to go easy on her his gun skills is more than enough to do so.

(Here and now,)

Accelerator also has people he wants to protect. People like Last Order, SISTERs, Yoshikawa Kikyou, and Yomikawa Aiho. So, he must be cruel to the very end. Even if he has to fight against the whole world, and even against those he must protect, he has to save those people from the darkness.

(Fire.)

“You can’t do it.”

By the time he realised, Yomikawa have walked up to him, and covered both the gun and Accelerator’s hand softly with her own hands.

“You aren’t a Villain that has rotted to that degree.”

Victory is decided just like that. The fingers that is holding onto the gun is slowly plied open one by one by Yomikawa. Then she took out the clip, pulled the smoothbore, and took out the bullet already in the gun. Faced with this kind of end, Accelerator can only stare blankly.

At this time,

Splat.

An attack made of Dark Matter came suddenly, and cut off Accelerator’s thought.

The target wasn’t him.

Yomikawa opened her eyes wide in shock. She slowly looked down. The white wing made of unknown materials has stabbed through the side of her stomach like a knife. Her green jersey has been dyed red. And with each passing moment the redness have spread into a frightening large patch.

Yomikawa wanted to say something, but after stumbling a few steps she collapsed.

Accelerator can only look on. Behind the collapsed Yomikawa stands a human figure. It was the unconscious Kakine Teitoku.

And behind him are the six wings.

There’s no need to explain what had just happened.

Swish. The sharp wings that stabbed through Yomikawa’s side were lightly pulled out.

“… She actually said no matter how dark or cold the world you are in, she’ll definitely bring you back?”

Kakine said with a face stained with blood.

The reason he attacked Yomikawa isn’t because she was in his way. From the beginning, Kakine’s eyes only have Accelerator. That slight hesitation, the slight hesitation in front of Yomikawa that he will step off the path of Evil, was the reason he attacked Yomikawa.

That hesitation is to him is the obstacle.

If Accelerator has given up Evil, then just what have he himself lost to?

Because of that, Kakine Teitoku raged.

“That’s impossible! How could it be that easy?! This is our world. This is the end of darkness and despair!! Babbling on with fancy words, but at the end of the end you rely on something like this. This is what you called ascetics?!”

A shattering speech. Lead by rage and ill will, the words that are illogical smashed against Accelerator’s body like blast waves.

“In the end you are the same as me, unable to protect anybody. After this many more will die, killed by a mongrel like me. Isn’t that right, Accelerator!! Didn’t you also slaughter your way to where you are now!!”

Kakine shakily stood upright with his body stained with blood and grime.

But this isn’t for fighting against Accelerator. For him who has a good understanding on ill will, Kakine’s ill will is directed elsewhere.

And that’s towards Yomikawa lying on the ground.

“S,stop.”

“I can’t hear you.”

Cracking sounds are made, but no-one’s sure what is happening. Kakine isn’t touching Yomikawa, but Yomikawa’s body is being stepped on by something unseen. Her body is trembling, and the red-black patch upon the pressure has started to spread once more.

“Stop!!”

“I can’t ****ing hear you!!”

Accelerator’s voice is being drowned out by Kakine’s roar.

“Don’t count on me to stop, you idiot!! What do you expect talking to solve, you villain? You have got to be joking – that’s not how we do things!”

Kakine used his ability and increased the pressure on Yomikawa.

This time it’s not just her side, even Yomikawa’s mouth started to have sticky crimson liquid leaking out.

“If you want to stop someone than kill him, if you don’t like something then destroy it. That’s the Evil! Being saved is unnecessary!! Being smiled upon and forgiven is unnecessary!! A piece of **** ******* like you doesn’t deserve to be forgiven! Come on! Let me see, the ‘Evil’ that you, who have only spouted fancy words have!!”

--- you fool.

Though you’ve said before you won’t involve normal people this is the result. Even though you’ve given up on the light, even though you’ve decided to stand at the pinnacle of the darkness, in the end you got tempted by soft words into reaching for the thread of light that reached for you. His own sight only slightly left the world of darkness, his own hands only slightly touched the world of light. The priority of eliminating Kakine Teitoku was pushed aside and this tragedy is the result.

So,


Accelerator this time changed completely into ‘Evil’.
He swears no matter what he will lose, he will completely shatter Kakine Teitoku!!


A searing headache. It felt like something sharp have stabbed into his brain, and devoured everything in Accelerator. His ears can hear something like fruit being smashed into pulp. His eyes have started to flow with a liquid that is not tears. A liquid that smells of rust, is redder than tears, thicker than tears, and feels uncomfortable. Even these liquid that comes out of his eyes only leave a taste of disgust.

And what came afterwards is,

Rampage.


“Oh.”

That pillar that supports him has completely shattered. His whole body have been infected by a murky emotion. Accelerator, who clenched his teeth and has crimson eyes lets out a roar that echoes to the ends of the Earth!

“Aaaaaaaargh!!”

From behind him spread murky black wings, as if it shot out from his back. This pair of wings that contains something that can blow away the mind, and anger that shatter his own sense of self, spread instantly over tens of metres, and shaves off parts of the buildings and roads around him.

“Ha.”

This pair of black wings, Kakine has seen it before, and knows what it is.

The elementary particles that don’t exist in this world, ‘Dark Matter’.

“… So strong. Such powerful Evil. So you can do it if you put your mind to it, Villain. If that’s the case then indeed ‘Dark Matter’ is only suitable for being the ‘Spare Plan’. However, this doesn’t mean it’s all decided!!”

Kakine’s six wings, as if responding to his roar, spread explosively. The wings that span several tens of metres emit a mysterious glow, and at the same time have an inorganic feel like a machine. Almost like a giant weapon gods and angels normally use.

Flap. The air around the six wings lets out a howl.

Accelerator and Dark Matter control the organic and inorganic powers respectively.

Different to this world, this is organic and inorganic in terms of a different world. The one who wields the power of God and the one who have touched the territory of God. Now the odds of victory are even, only that different to Accelerator, Kakine have not lost his self.

An unprecedented power is expanding within him.

And, he has perfectly mastered this power.

Now the position of the Number One and Number Two of Academy City is about to be reversed. This is neither a bluff nor an exaggeration. He now believes even if he fights against all the armies in the world, and even every esper in Academy City, he can emerge victorious and unharmed.

“Hahaha!! Uwahahahaha!!”

Kakine laughed and waved his completely awakened six wings down at Accelerator.

He no longer sees Accelerator as a threat, but only thing to test his new powers on.


Splat.

Kakine Teitoku’s body got pressed into the tarmac by a great power.

“Wha…?!”

He completely doesn’t understand what just happened.

Accelerator’s wings didn’t move at all. He only stared at Kakine and slightly moved his hands. With just that, he defeated Kakine who had absolute power and grinded him deep into the ground.

His right hand that had the Pincet Glove on it got torn off from the elbow onwards.

(Ah! … Uwah! Wh, Wha?! Just what is - )

Accelerator must have changed vectors and energies of some sort, and redirected those towards Kakine as a attack. Even though he understands, but even if he gathered all the energies in this world this phenomenon shouldn’t have happened. The Kakine Teitoku now can’t lose to this world.

Unreasonable.

Inexplicable.

With a overwhelming presence Accelerator walked step by step towards Kakine Teitoku. His steps are like the countdown until the end of Kakine’s life, when it reaches zero it will be all over. And, Accelerator has reached that last step.

“Ha, ha.”

“--- yjrpEVILqw”

“*******…! Damn it, so this is how it is!! Your mission is…?!”

No reply, just a fist filled with killing intent.


An overwhelming slaughter has begun.

Credits: The Observer

[End Vol15 Ch5 Pt4]

[Wilfriback]

Or check it here on B-T :P (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_4)

[tsunade666]

aaah, another bloody chapter.

[Marcus H.]

Well, it's not that bad, compared to the grotesque transformation of MISAKA Worst.

[Wilfriback]

This is no the best translation but still can transmite the message.

The frog-faced doctor finally returned to his hospital.

Though, just the preparation to get back here took a long time. First to let the ‘Sisters’ back here to check for whether there are enemies preparing for a ambush or things such as bombs and so on, just that took over an hour.

(To think that I actually had to resort to let my patients help me out.)

With some feelings of self-loathing, the frog-faced doctor deeply sighed. To prepare for these situations in the future maybe it’s better to employ some help.

The main patients have already been taken care of in ‘hospital cars’ that’s similar to a tour bus. After ensuring their safety they were placed back to their original beds, with things finally coming to a close…

He sits in his office, staring at the ceiling as if deep in thought.

Then, he reached for the phone on his desk.

While dialling for an outside line, he taps the pencil in his hand a few times. Though at first glance it seemed like a casual movement, but it’s a movement with a certain rhythm. After that, a certain code is entered through the phone.

Putting the receiver next to his ear, the sound that comes out of it isn’t a normal sound from calling someone.

Without a single ring, the other side picked up the phone.

“Good morning, Aleister. After doing as you pleased, how do you feel?”

[“Not too bad. Finally the plan has reached the second stage, though only at this level it can’t really be called doing as I pleased.”]

The quality of the voice is frighteningly good, a normal person would wonder if this is the same kind of phone as anyone else has. If the phone has some other line connected to it then maybe this level of quality can be explained.

But, to the frog-faced doctor this is nothing unusual.

As he had said to Accelerator, he’s an old senpai that has submerged into the world of darkness.

“Still early, huh. To what extent will you be using Accelerator and Last Order until you are satisfied?”

[“Who knows? Compared to that, whether they can last until the end is the bigger question. The stage where imputing the values of the AIM field into Last Order using the Testament machine is finally finished… the completion progress of the other side is the main problem right now. Though the method of combining Accelerator, Last Order and Kazakiri Hyouka can be used, it’s still not that reliable. My goal is something far greater.”]

“The existence of what’s beyond Absolute Power (level 6), huh…”

[“If it wasn’t for that, it would have been meaningless to especially bringing in Imagine Breaker from the outside.”]

“Aleister, there’s something I just have to say to you.”

[“What?”]

“Could you please stop these actions of toying with my patients.”

[“Ha.”]

The replied answer is laughter.

To the silent doctor, the general superintendent says:

[“If I don’t listen to you, then what? No, what can you do about it?”]

“You should know it as well.”

The frog-faced doctor sits in the office without the lights on, saying it in a tranquil manner.

His expression can’t be seen by anyone.

“Even for me, what I can do to you in this situation, you should understand as well?”

But, the doctor said.

“Even so, those children are my patients.”

[“… …”]

“And I’m a doctor. Aleister, no matter what you are, it’s impossible for you to twist this. Do you understand, Aleister? Just what kind of thing my resolve is.”

The frog-faced doctor put enormous strength into the receiver he’s holding.

Using a plain, light voice, he continues to say.

“If it’s the you that I had saved in the past, you’d definitely understand.”

In the pitch black office there is only silence.

No matter whether it was the frog-faced doctor or Aleister, neither of them said a word.

[“… The me at that time was really on the verge of death.”]

After the doctor heard that his expression became solemn.

In this situation where it’s like forcing the other side to repay him, makes the doctor hurting in his chest.

[“At a rural village in England, I was hunted down by magicians belonging to the country’s national religion, falling to the ground like a rip-opened sack. It’s you that saved me, allowed me to escape England, gave me this life-extending equipment, introduced this place called Japan to me, and gave me the idea for Academy City. This is all thanks to you.”]

“… …”

[“Are you regretting it?”]

“Do you really want to know?”

[“If you want to remotely stop the life-support equipment, now is your only chance.”]

“If you want to treat me as a fool then you better stop now.”

Is that so, Aleister replies as if he smiling.

[“I might have to end up as an enemy to you who is saying such things.”]

“… …”

[“From what’s called the strictest faction among Christianity, at the same time called the world’s strongest golden magic cabal, to others such as countries and family, I’ve made myself an enemy to all kinds of people in my life… I didn’t think that now at this point I’d end up losing something again.”]

“You’re not preparing to change your views?”

[“You should know the reason behind everything I do.”]

“… That’s right.”

[“I won’t stop now, the time for that is long gone.”]

A complete separation.

This is a tragic outcome, as the two weren’t enemies at the start.

[“Farewell, my kindest enemy.”]

And then, the call was cut off.

The last connection between the two, that thin line is severed. The only thing left is the monotonous electrical tone.

The frog-faced doctor stood there paralysed for ten whole seconds.

Then he gradually lowered the receiver.

In the office without lighting, he sighed deeply.

(Did you forget, Aleister?)

The frog-faced doctor looked outside the window. It can’t be seen from here, but in that direction is the Windowless Building.

His stature is tiny.

Without any backing, the small-statured man thought quietly.

(Even if it’s you, you are still one of my patients.)

***
On this day, Academy City officially acknowledged the existence of Magic Associations.
Outside of Academy City – the Roman Catholic Church using the name ‘Magic’ to establish similar scientific esper development facilities. Academy City also outlined a report about the damage done to them by the attack and sent it through the world news on the same day.

On the other side, the Roman Catholic Church have ascertained the existence of an ‘Angel’ in Academy City, accused Academy City of conducting research projects bastardizing the Christianity teachings, and the Roman Catholic Pope himself stepped out to denounce Academy City.

Both sides declared the actions of the opposition “Foolish and illogical”, completely denying the other side’s viewpoint any possible credibility. From this there doesn’t seem to be any intent of negotiation, but rather gives off the feeling that both sides want to increase the conflict to a more extreme level.

War, is about to begin.

Academy City in direct confrontation with the Roman Catholic Church.

Maybe this will become the world’s 3rd, and largest war.


And a better version of the part of the talk between the Pope and Fiamma from Vol.16 Epilogue.
Flamma: "The holy stone that symbolises all powers of miracles, no matter it be magic or the demonic arts, it will destroy all without differentiating between them. even in the past it has sealed the demon king Satan into hell for a thousand years, the power of the Right that let the human realm have a thousand year of peace.

If there's a right hand in this world that can bring out it's complete potential, however, wouldn't you want to know its composition?"

The Pope: (Could... it be)
(In the report, it has mentioned...
in Academy City, a certain boy possesses a supernatural power whose properties are unknown.
An right hand that completely erases mysteries and magic.)

Flamma: "If it was I... then I can use it. This Michael, it can definitely use it to its full potential. For this, preparations must be made..."

To control that overwhelming power, overwhelming knowledge that is beyond the realm of humans is needed.

The Roman Catholic Pope knows of a 'Vault of knowledge'.
One that holds all grimoire of the world, a crystallized form of those certain knowledge.

EDIT:

Ara-!!!
Looks like I'm somehow blessesd with a relative good luck today.
Teh_Ping has finished the Chapter 8 (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_C hapter_8#Part_8), and now has started to workwith the Epilogue. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_E pilogue)

[SuzushinaYuriko]

And worst of all, his self loathing has escalated into the realm of arrogance, thinking that no one can get dirtier than you. What a horrible excuse to make so you don't have to change yourself......

It's a good thing Touma punched some sense into him then. :heh: Wonder what he'll do in volume 21 with his views changed...

And Kakine's gonna be beaten into a VERY bloody pulp when Accel's done with him. Seriously, going after Last Order, civilians like Uiharu, AND Yomikawa just so he could get his way? That's low.

On another note, why was Kakine going after Last Order in the first place? To lure Accel out so he could try to beat him?

Thanks for sharing the translations!

[tsunade666]

didn't he said that he would like to destroy Aleister plan or rather he doesn't want to be called spare plan or just plain old back up. And his been sulking since then and then get annoyed and tried to take on Accelerator.

But the translation clarify something. The black wings are the same unknown object as kakine's Dark Matter. And when Kakine finally realized the truth it's all over for him. Too bad we didn't get to see on how will he use it. He even said he could take on all the espers on academy city when his in that state. Well his in an "awaken state" similar to the saint when they are empowered by divine magic. But his idiot for thinking such thing while fighting Accelerator. If he had time on dreaming then he should had time on focusing on his enemy. His been blind by the power of his and that nano second is his weakness. Accelerator at that state wouldn't let that chance pass.

[surerman]

meh!
IMO:
Accelerator is the weak one here, must be awakened by some girl (or bitch?) being beaten up.
This way I like Kakine line more: "If you don't like some one, kill it" or something like that.....and his action to Yoshikawa is fond to my taste
(like hell a bitch can jump on the middle of two crazy Esper monster fight and make them stop ..create peace...etc).

*Stare at Yoshi-bitch*
Do you feel it?! Do you feel it?! ha!? ha!? (Ace Ventura style :D)

Yoshikawa better end up dead....it'll make me happy too:p
btw
Accelerator Black Wing isn't worth called "Awaken", more like "Rage" to me. It's like final struggle burst out when someone about to die.

[Ashaman]

Accel did think Kakine was down for the count.

Yoshi didn't get in the way between a battle between two high espers, she just stopped Accel from killing a defenseless man.

[noobita]

Oh man..After reading this..I hardly can respect Accelerator anymore...His philosophy or resolve can be blow away so easily. Seriously, he is really weak in mentality term. No wonder Touma raped him so badly in any encounter.

[Endscape]

Come to think of it, Stiyl and Accelerator are very similar. Both of them are somewhat admiring and envious of Touma for doing what they feel they can't do. Accelerator puts himself down as being 'Evil' so as to justify himself as scum, while Stiyl does something similar but doesn't think of himself as 'Evil' but just helping Index.

[Teh_Ping]

Well, you got to balance the stats out somewhere...

I guess it's more of Accelerator not seeing himself as so much of a loner now. When you are growing up with a psycho like Amata Kihara, it's not going to be easy accepting that there are things that you want to protect. He's not like Touma, he doesn't have a real set of values that he holds dear. To him, it's like he's adjusting to this new lifestyle. You can call it 'Good is Dumb' though...

Speaking of Dark Matter, this OST just came to my mind for some reason. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0D4lCQS64)

Well, better get back to work. The next part of the Epilogue is going to be EPIC

[tsunade666]

styl too would result on doing evil just to keep that smile from index. He would even kill touma if he saw index crying.

That's a good comparison they are really alike.

Accelerator is really not strong on mentality aspect or rather his been easily shaken when someone came from his past (sisters) and someone ask to lend a hand or bring him to the light.

[Marcus H.]

Accelerator is completely new to Heroism. That's why he's still struggling, especially since he did not abandon his ideals, which is weak in itself.

He has to learn from Touma, but not to the extent that he is gonna do the same thing like him, rushing to troubles and (ironic to his bad luck) surviving every ordeal (though barely, at times). Reality check: Touma has the ability to shield himself almost perfectly against any magical attack of a scale even normal magicians or espers are astounded about, while he, even though being the "most powerful esper", is otherwise weak inside.

Accelerator needs to be a new kind of hero, not someone who only sees himself as inferior to other people.

[Wilfriback]

If there is a animated version of the fight between Kakine and Accelerator I'll made an AMV using that sound track, the chorus will be a good company to the wings and the destruction.

[surerman]

If there is a animated version of the fight between Kakine and Accelerator I'll made an AMV using that sound track, the chorus will be a good companion to the wings and the destruction.

guess I find one in youtube which can match that's scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVKsYyKYSPw
epic battle!

Kakine ended with only brain left right?, who's save his remnant then?, Anti Skill?, or Heaven Canceler?

@Teh_Ping
hey ping bro! I guess you must start consume Black Seed for your health.
If you (like your sig said) ended in hospital too many times, that's medicine will be a good supplement.
btw is your Military training's over yet?
If only I'm free:(, I'd like to test your combat ability:D any beautiful instructor there?

[Wilfriback]

guess I find one in youtube which can match that's scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVKsYyKYSPw
epic battle!

Kakine ended with only brain left right?, who's save his remnant then?, Anti Skill?, or Heaven Canceler?


Aleister's lackeys. If Heaven Canceler whould have recovered his body first, probably Kakine would be in a piece instead being kept on a fridge(body) and a jar(brain) to produce Dark Matter -___-; Aleister is very creepy.

[tsunade666]

He has to learn from Touma, but not to the extent that he is gonna do the same thing like him, rushing to troubles and (ironic to his bad luck) surviving every ordeal (though barely, at times). Reality check: Touma has the ability to shield himself almost perfectly against any magical attack of a scale even normal magicians or espers are astounded about, while he, even though being the "most powerful esper", is otherwise weak inside.


YOU got this right! from the abnormal scale magicians like the magic blasted by Aqua that shattered buildings like their is no tomorrow. And Magic of the sword of curtana(forgot that sword that used by Micheal) that could destroy a town like it was nothing. And even the giant fire sword of Fianmma. I doubt any normal magicians or espers could survive that even Accelerator himself might just avoid it or might survive the attack but surely Damage. But then again it's just his right hand :heh: in vol 20. Many questions the survive rate of Touma on how can he overcome those trials. Even the characters that saw the fight admit it that with just a little right hand can't do the trick.

He fights for his ideals and his beliefs. He protects those he wants to protect and it's not like his just being a hero to the core though his just really being one when he tried to rescue the prisoners of war in vol 20 :eyespin: :eyespin: But still his "will" to never give up makes him go forward on trials and never give in his misfortune. That I think Accelerator should be learned from Touma.

Accelerator is just too pessimist or negative for his own good. I'm not even sure I use the right word negative but his view on the world that his nonredeemable is just too plain stupid if you ask me. He might be beyond redeeming himself but he shouldn't let himself get drag on too it. Like on what he did. He just go deeper and deeper into the darkness. Even if he still finds tiny specks of light that shares their light with him. He might be swayed sometimes and that event ended up as a utter failure and someone has been sacrifice but he shouldn't give up on it.

That's why his always getting his illusion shattered by Touma. :heh: :heh:

[ZeroForever]

Honestly in my personal opinion Accelerator feels more realistic due to his pessimistic view of the world, given the crap that he's had to put up with in his life I honestly sympathize more with him. Considering the end result of things that involve him pretty much are never good for him or his mental/physical state.

Touma on the other hand kinda runs on shounen protagonist power, with harem building, winning despite the odds stacked against him, and standard general mary sueish gifts. Although he gets beat up everytime he ALWAYS has won the mental battle which made me go meh after a point.

[Wilfriback]

I think in the mental battle with Fiamma, Touma almost lost all his confidence when told Index about his memories. If Index gets away from Touma, the guy will have no world to return because since his memory loss Index become the pillar of his new life.

[tsunade666]

more like she is the first person he knew. Like a new born baby that clings on the it's parent (/// I think I did a bad comparison) well aside that. The only thing that Touma remembers or rather his heart remember is when he saw the girl crying. He felt pain on his heart and led into lying. He doesn't want to see her cry or loose it's smile.

So after the big shock just like Accelerator when loosing Last Order. Touma just lost his pillar of support. Though the only difference is after brawling with Accelerator, Touma stand up again. And now Accelerator I don't know what's on his mind. He just agreed on going to the country Elezirina.

[Wilfriback]

Like a new born baby that clings on the it's parent (/// I think I did a bad comparison) well aside that. The only thing that Touma remembers or rather his heart remember is when he saw the girl crying. He felt pain on his heart and led into lying. He doesn't want to see her cry or loose it's smile.
I think your example is" the chicken and the hen", right?

So after the big shock just like Accelerator when loosing Last Order. Touma just lost his pillar of support. Though the only difference is after brawling with Accelerator, Touma stand up again. And now Accelerator I don't know what's on his mind. He just agreed on going to the country Elezirina.
I wonder if he is going to get a new form of wings + halo(?)

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Honestly in my personal opinion Accelerator feels more realistic due to his pessimistic view of the world, given the crap that he's had to put up with in his life I honestly sympathize more with him. Considering the end result of things that involve him pretty much are never good for him or his mental/physical state.

Touma on the other hand kinda runs on shounen protagonist power, with harem building, winning despite the odds stacked against him, and standard general mary sueish gifts. Although he gets beat up everytime he ALWAYS has won the mental battle which made me go meh after a point.

I agree. The reason I like Accelerator so much is because he's a great character to analyze. You just KNOW when you hear the word Kihara that unspeakable things have happened to him for "development". Compared to Touma, who you know will win every time to anything he puts his mind to, Accelerator's actions are more compelling to watch.

However, suddenly changing his views to be more optimistic is difficult for him as people from the dark side are always there to drag him back.

In volume 12, he was about to accept peacefully living with Yomikawa and Last Order. However, less than ONE day after he moved in, he's attacked, Last Order is kidnapped, and Kihara returns to destroy any hope of being with them and leaving the dark side.

I believe that if not for the events in volume 13, Accelerator could have eventually changed his views to be more optimistic and not waver so much as a result.

In volume 15, he let Yomikawa take the gun away from him, influenced by her words that there is hope for him after all, only to have Kakine to seriously injure Yomikawa and tear those words to shreds.

Everytime he tries doing something good or saving somebody, it always backfires on him. Not being able to save anyone even though he has such tremendous power is extremely damaging to his self esteem. To him, it's proof that he isn't good enough. He hates himself and believes that he deserves it.

Before you chide Accelerator for being stupid for having a weak resolve, remember that he is HUMAN. He has emotions, he's affected by various events around him, past and present, and he can't suddenly decide to adopt a Touma-esque iron will. It's not that easy to change after all that's happened, so can some of you stop acting like it is?

[Wilfriback]

Hey! Touma has no past XD, I think Touma is like that because he hasn't too much to lose and only cares to protect whas he's got after the new start.

Accelerator indeed for me the most interesting character the reasons were already explained a time ago.

[Shadow5YA]

Accelerator just hasn't had the same luxury as Touma, who happens to succeed at rescuing every person he's come across. On the other hand, Accel has quite a few failures under his belt, so it's understandable that he'd get discouraged.

[tsunade666]

that's why Accelerator view Touma as a hero and himself as a villain. Well aside from their victories and their past. Touma doesn't really care for his past. When index ask him on vol 4. He just ignore or change the subject. He always escapes and run away when talking about his past. Like what Terra and Fianma do to shake up Touma. They talk about his past and shake his resolve. Because he doesn't even had a clue about that past and and doesn't want anyone to know about that he doesn't know about his current condition that when someone brought it up. His been always shaken up well except from when Mikoto said it but maybe Touma doesn't have the time to be shock and be shaken when his friends are in danger. As for Accelerator his past pin him down the earth or below earth. His extremely negative and humble from his past mistake and his failure. Maybe when he got brain damage the author should erase his memories but the author didn't.

So the results is a man walking without a past to shackle him down and a man who's past hunts him down.

[Wilfriback]

Parts 2 and 3 of vol.10 epilogue. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10_E pilogue#Part_2)

OMG, Laura is so evil and smart D: to the point to scare me.

[Endscape]

Yeah, Laura really is evil. Setting up such a trap and playing around with Lidvia.

Also, Lidvia surprised me. Her personality is different than I thought. if she wasn't a fanatic, that competitive personality would make her a really good person.

[Wilfriback]

I wonder what was the silver rod on the glass box...

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Laura is scary. :heh:

Did Lidvia survive that and save both the cross and the pilot?

[sasuke706]

Laura is scary. :heh:

Did Lidvia survive that and save both the cross and the pilot?

Not sure about the pilot and cross, but one of the images from volume 14 shows Stiyl interrogating her while she's cuffed to a chair.

I was also half expecting the pilot to be Stiyl, with the whole conveniently placed rune card. Oh well. If it was, I was going to wonder over how he recovered so fast.

[Kleeyook]

Oh! Laura is so awesome! I really like her character! Any chances she'd be include in Touma's harem!? :P

[tsunade666]

nope, the hurdle is so damn high plus the age gap. all touma's harem are either 2 years max older than him or younger than him.

Despite the looks of the archbishop she's in your 20+ age which I bet she's in the upper 20's.

Though it would be fine if she's been added on touma's harem. I wonder what would she do to touma. But too bad she's the characters that doesn't have a flag.

[Wilfriback]

Oh! Laura is so awesome! I really like her character! Any chances she'd be include in Touma's harem!? :P
Thats too scary to mind.

nope, the hurdle is so damn high plus the age gap. all touma's harem are either 2 years max older than him or younger than him.

Despite the looks of the archbishop she's in your 20+ age which I bet she's in the upper 20's.

Though it would be fine if she's been added on touma's harem. I wonder what would she do to touma. But too bad she's the characters that doesn't have a flag.
Itsuwa is 16-17 just like Touma and Laura is 18.

BTW there is two crack pairings like Aleister X Laura and Laura X Stiyl.

[tsunade666]

laura is older than 20. It's been said in the novel though not sure on what volume but I read that part when they introduce her. Probably vol 7. The 18 years old is Kaori.

[sasuke706]

and Laura is 18.

No, she "looks" 18, just like Saiai "looks" like a 12 year-old (Middle school usually starts at 13-14, I believe), but claims she's a middle schooler. I also recall reading somewhere Laura's older than she looks, but I couldn't find it and it may just as well be a figment of my imagination. That happens sometimes.

[pampz21]

Thats too scary to mind.


Itsuwa is 16-17 just like Touma and Laura is 18.

BTW there is two crack pairings like Aleister X Laura and Laura X Stiyl.

nah Touma is 17 and 18 as the story progress!

well styl is just 14-16 by the way!

[Wilfriback]

The story progress, yes. But the time in the series, not much. Just look at the events volume 20 during October 30th when the events of the volue 13 were on August 31th...

[pampz21]

The story progress, yes. But the time in the series, not much. Just look at the events volume 20 during October 30th when the events of the volue 13 were on August 31th...

well we don't know Touma's Bday so we won't know!

[Wilfriback]

Almost forgot, there is a lapse of 11-12 days between the events when Touma left England at the end of vol.18 and when Touma arrived to Russia with Lessar.

[surerman]

Not sure about the pilot and cross, but one of the images from volume 14 shows Stiyl interrogating her while she's cuffed to a chair.

I was also half expecting the pilot to be Stiyl, with the whole conveniently placed rune card. Oh well. If it was, I was going to wonder over how he recovered so fast.

Styl must be out of his mind to handcuffed his own Archbishop to chair, or....Laura let him do it on purpose? (Laura is a massochist:confused:):heh:

and about Laura joining Touma Harem...I agree...as long as it's can be impregnated, it's still useful (at least to raise your heir):p

[pampz21]

Styl must be out of his mind to handcuffed his own Archbishop to chair, or....Laura let him do it on purpose? (Laura is a massochist:confused:):heh:

and about Laura joining Touma Harem...I agree...as long as it's can be impregnated, it's still useful (at least to raise your heir):p

well if that happens I'll surely be Lau x Tou! but for now I'm Touma x Kaori or Touma x Itsuwa! well surely Oriana x Touma

[Wilfriback]

well if that happens I'll surely be Lau x Tou! but for now I'm Touma x Kaori
+5

or Touma x Itsuwa!
+10

well surely Oriana x Touma
+15(?) XD

Ok What about a new crack pairing like Elizarina X Touma?

[Master Assassin]

Oh! Laura is so awesome! I really like her character! Any chances she'd be include in Touma's harem!? :P

Oh noes... don't remind me that I wanted that to happen too, somehow :heh:

[Teh_Ping]

I wonder what was the silver rod on the glass box...

Most likely, his own weapon?

I was also half expecting the pilot to be Stiyl, with the whole conveniently placed rune card. Oh well. If it was, I was going to wonder over how he recovered so fast.

He was still in the ICU, covered with wounds when Touma was talking in part 1. The hospital isn't going to let him go out like that.

It’s a detailed world map, and there are 9,969 indicated red lights. This is a worldwide distribution of where the esper development programs are done. He intends to use these and the slumbering Imaginary Districts in Academy City to carry out a plan that will stop magical activity on a global scale.

Probably a coincidence, or not, but the number seems to bother me. That's the number of Imoutos left (Not including LO though.)

Anyway, Volume 10 all done. Wilfri has provided the link for the epilogue up there. So this is the full one. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10)

[tsunade666]

thanks Teh_Ping

if its pairing I want touma to crack up the 2nd princess of england. She's too high and mighty I wonder what would happen if the flag would be trigger.

[Marcus H.]

How about Carrisa x Acqua? X3
Carrisa x Touma would be more like Silvia and Aurrelus.

[kuroishinigami]

It is not a coincidences. It is indeed the number of the imoutos left since the left imoutous is actually used to expand the AIM coverage area, which is the main part of Aleister's plan.

Wonder who's going to be the last boss, if there's one that is. Laura or Aleister, or even one of the god like Fuze Kazakiri or Aiwass. Or even God of Lucifer himself. (Mind wandering too far from awesomeness of new translation). I still miss my vol 15 and 20 copy so I'm waiting for those volume coverage next XD.

[tsunade666]

After reading the last part of Epilogue.

I start to remember hating Oriana on what she have done on Aisa.... poor Aisa.

Then now I'm sure on my speculation before that what Touma's doing might be just to justify his existence. Because he doesn't have a past. He doesn't want anyone to ruin his present. He fights to protect it and become dependent on it.

Index said that it might be happiness for Touma

Touma said his doing it for himself

He might be a hero to the core like before the memory destruction but having no memory of what so ever before. One can have a change of lifestyle and view but when his present is in danger his been dragged to save them. If he didn't lie to Index in vol 1. The story might change or take a turn for Touma being the enemy.

[pampz21]

It is not a coincidences. It is indeed the number of the imoutos left since the left imoutous is actually used to expand the AIM coverage area, which is the main part of Aleister's plan.

Wonder who's going to be the last boss, if there's one that is. Laura or Aleister, or even one of the god like Fuze Kazakiri or Aiwass. Or even God of Lucifer himself. (Mind wandering too far from awesomeness of new translation). I still miss my vol 15 and 20 copy so I'm waiting for those volume coverage next XD.

well it's certainly not Fiamma b/c TOuma's gonna kick his ass on vol. 21....probably Aleister or Aiwass or maybe God....who is one hit by Touma...cuz he'll erase his existance.....nyahahaha

PS: Touma's personality is just like that...the only thing that change was he's just concious about the people around and wants to protect people and grow his harem.... remember the first thing that happened in ep 1 was he was trying to save the deliquents from lvl 5 railgun's wraith!

[surerman]

Probably a coincidence, or not, but the number seems to bother me. That's the number of Imoutos left (Not including LO though.)

Anyway, Volume 10 all done. Wilfri has provided the link for the epilogue up there. So this is the full one. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10)

hmm...if it's world wide, the number of Imouto's scattered is not 9969 but 9959 since 10 of them is in Academy city (in one spot/one dot red in the map) included Misaka Imouto 10032

somehow I irritated by the fact that we call only Misaka no.10032 as "Misaka Imouto" while the rest also deserve that call...some kind of discrimination among the Imouto's??:heh:

hope the other Imouto get some spot light soon beside their brawl in the hospital between them self infront of Heaven Canceler, especially the one who's dieting (I forgot her serial number)

[pampz21]

by the way finish reading the summaries of vol 20
it was awesome specially the fight with Fiamma and Accel.... and the mystery of how Touma beat the ass of Accel......maybe someday Aiwass will fight Touma and the title will be Angel Beats!*in memories of Angel Beats*

[Wilfriback]

How about Carrisa x Acqua? X3

Cough cough the third princess is like Acqua's stalker... :heh:
Villian: Sir William, don't run away from me I just want to give you a proper thanks!
Oriana: Don't worry I'm tracking him very well.
Acqua: Thats all Kamijo Touma's fault.
Touma:... Fuko da.


Then now I'm sure on my speculation before that what Touma's doing might be just to justify his existence. Because he doesn't have a past. He doesn't want anyone to ruin his present. He fights to protect it and become dependent on it.

Index said that it might be happiness for Touma

Touma said his doing it for himself


That reminds me that Fiamma said the same, "You are protecting her just for your own self-satisfactio since you have nothing more".

[tsunade666]

Cough cough the third princess is like Acqua's stalker... :heh:
Villian: Sir William, don't run away from me I just want to give you a proper thanks!
Oriana: Don't worry I'm tracking him very well.
Acqua: Thats all Kamijo Touma's fault.
Touma:... Fuko da.

Why the third princess? the third princess had already his superman. The second princess is tough to crack but worth the trouble. I don't like the first princess at all. She's too old :p



That reminds me that Fiamma said the same, "You are protecting her just for your own self-satisfactio since you have nothing more".

right? isn't it? before he memory lost. He has hesitation to meddle with the magic side. He even run away first. When index said "then, would you follow me to hell?" He hesitated their and even run away. But then again he comes back.

But that's different with his current self. His not hesitating anymore. You might call it improvement or what ever. But diving for the sake of someone you don't know with an unknown enemy is suicide. He even himself said that he doesn't fight if the odds are against him. But after the memory destruction. No matter what he said before turn into a lie. He just dive into one mess after another.

Mind me his been rescuing people before but that's only small daily stuff for him. His first hospitalization is after the memory destruction. After that his been like their every week. :uhoh: :heh: :rolleyes: poor guy :(

To me it's just like his been protecting his current state more than ever not for the others along but for his sake too. Because that is his only left for him to do. But then again here Misaka getting all blush flustered when Touma said his doing it for himself and his not walking their too die.

crap:frustrated: I want Touma's memory back :frustrated:

And if the situation changed before in vol 1. Then we wouldn't be having a clash of magic and science side :heh: I wonder if Aleister's plan to allow Index to enter his city. I mean a nun entering the ACADEMY CITY!!!! is unheard of before because of the security. Plus index is not your average nun. She's the walking library of the magic side.

[RPG_Fanatic]

Anyway, Volume 10 all done. Wilfri has provided the link for the epilogue up there. So this is the full one. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10)

That was an awesome epilogue.
It really showed how evil Laura can be, as well as how smart she is.
Nice to see Aisa in the final part. Loved how Fukiyose walked in while Touma changed. Now they are even.
I can't wait to see this animated.

Thanks for all your hard work Teh_Ping. Make sure don't push yourself too hard.

[pampz21]

can some one translate me how Touma and Itsuwa meet? wanna know really bad!

[Wilfriback]

Anyway, Volume 10 all done. Wilfri has provided the link for the epilogue up there. So this is the full one. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume10)

I'm such a stalker :(
.... nah! Is just B-T notices me via mail when there are some updates/changes :D.
Thanks for your hard work Teh_Ping take a good rest

By the time being:
Teh_Ping >>> JCStaff >> Shonen Gangan


can some one translate me how Touma and Itsuwa meet? wanna know really bad!
I agree with you on that, but Teh_Ping just finished the vol.10 if he wants to keep going on with the translations it depends on if he wants to, also, he still has the military camp.

P.S: Sigh... looks like I have a fever, when looking at my own words, I want so badly the vol.11 too!!! Is like stabbing myself :heh:

[pampz21]

[QUOTE=I agree with you on that, but Teh_Ping just finished the vol.10 if he wants to keep going on with the translations it depends on if he wants to, also, he still has the military camp.

P.S: Sigh... looks like I have a fever, when looking at my own words, I want so badly the vol.11 too!!! Is like stabbing myself :heh:[/QUOTE]

oh...zanen... oh well it's worth w8ting for cuz we still got oct for s2 to start....

ps: just rest and play!

[Bordix]

Vol 15 ch 5 part 5 (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_5)

heh, leave it to a small girl to stop a rampaging esper. Seriously, after witnessing all these crazy shit, I'd leave this place in a heart beat. Being saved by a kid isn't really that quite assuring. Accelerator also needs to control himself whenever he's on blackwings mode, Last order and Touma aren't always there to bring him back to his senses

[Wilfriback]

Vol 15 ch 5 part 5 (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume15_C hapter_5#Part_5)

heh, leave it to a small girl to stop a rampaging esper. Seriously, after witnessing all these crazy shit, I'd leave this place in a heart beat. Being saved by a kid isn't really that quite assuring. Accelerator also needs to control himself whenever he's on blackwings mode, Last order and Touma aren't always there to bring him back to his senses

The funniest thing of this is althought those A-S witnessed Accelerator's fight they decide to use... guns?:heh:

[tsunade666]

The only one who could really stop Accelerator back then was LO. But the fight between Touma and Accelerator in vol 21 are beyond help. Accelerator even said so.

But I really pity that fellow.

But, the black wings once again stopped in front of her, along with a *kacha* blunt sound. Accelerator is conflicted. In his heart, he continues to scream out to give up on everything. If he has to have memories of something like this, if he has to repeat this kind of tragedies, he might as well abandon everything. But, in the end he could not abandon them. Even though he can kill her with only a finger, even though he can blow her away easily, but no matter what Accelerator cannot abandon this hope.

Despite Touma's never ending Fuko Da. His still having luck on the girls and he doesn't have a past that shackles him down. Unlike Accelerator which he wish he doesn't remember all of it. I wonder what would have happen if the settings for those two become switch. Accelerator without memories and Touma with his initial memories.

The attack Accelerator fired was stopped by an invisible wall. The black wings have stopped mere millimetres away from her face, going no closer and only trembles. But, she shouldn’t have the power to block this. Even if the whole world is searched, someone that can block this blow might not be found.

Don't look too far. Their exist one in academy city. Wait his in Italy now having a time of his life. Going abroad back and forth. That Fuko Da! guy.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Hate to break it to you, but the first official meeting between Touma and Itsuwa is nothing special, she just handed him towels shyly :heh:

[pampz21]

Hate to break it to you, but the first official meeting between Touma and Itsuwa is nothing special, she just handed him towels shyly :heh:

still wanna know... and how the heck did she u know...love at first sight!

[Chaos2Frozen]

still wanna know... and how the heck did she u know...love at first sight!

No idea, kinda out of the blues actually... But it was kinda funny watching her friends cheer her on.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

The funniest thing of this is althought those A-S witnessed Accelerator's fight they decide to use... guns?:heh:

Were any Antiskills besides Yomikawa there for the actual Accelerator VS. Kakine fight? Well, anyways, even if they didn't witness it, they should really know that firing guns of all things at the strongest esper in the city with a current unstable mental condition is NOT the smartest idea. :heh:

Good thing Last Order was there or they all would have been screwed.

[tsunade666]

their are anti-skill and even bystander. The fight echoes around the city if you read the chapter of the novel. The bystander are struck in fear and can't look away or even run away and even the anti-skill are just standing their watching. But sooner or later one would break his mental state while watching the scene. That's when someone fire a bullet aim at the strongest.

[Kyosuke_Nanbu]

Anti-Skill is equipped to deal with lv3, lv4- and lower.They can't stand a chance against a Lv5 like Accel........Where are the Anti-Skill Power Armors in Railgun...!!?? AS PA vs MAR PA :heh:

Hmm, I wonder where the main base of the AC Army is? 2nd District?How many Esper in this Army?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Anti-Skill is equipped to deal with lv3, lv4- and lower.They can't stand a chance against a Lv5 like Accel........Where are the Anti-Skill Power Armors in Railgun...!!?? AS PA vs MAR PA :heh:

Hmm, I wonder where the main base of the AC Army is? 2nd District?How many Esper in this Army?

Power Armor probably can't do squat against Accelerator.

Academy city doesn't use espers in their main military force, mostly alot of high tech weapons and some mercs.

[Kyosuke_Nanbu]

AC used them in Accel's Flashback with Tanks:eyespin:

[tsunade666]

Their are power armors present in this case and they even brought their slaughter helicopter six wings.

In her shouting Yomikawa ended up retching blood out from her mouth once more. This time she finally succeeded in breaking out of Saigou’s grasp. But when she turned to look at her surroundings she discovered there are large numbers of fully-armed Anti-Skill members, power armours and armoured vehicles setting up their positions. It’s a scenario that’s almost like it came straight out of a nightmare. An intense feeling of this is unreal assaulted Yomikawa, who have some understanding about Accelerator’s past. When

Accelerator was younger, he was surrounded like this, lost all hope in life, and after surrendering he was thrown into dark research labs.

Yomikawa wants to struggle, but she doesn’t have the strength. Now, from above came the *pada pada pada* sounds that stirs the air. She looked up, and black helicopters are flying in the sky above her. Those are the newest ‘Six Wings’

Six wings aren't your average helicopter. It's mostly used for slaughtering purposes.

[noobita]

Anti skill, where is your capacity down device?

Oh man, those Anti Skill is inefficient as always...or those Board Director just refuse to share their anti-esper device with Anti-Skill?

[tsunade666]

Anti skill, where is your capacity down device?

Oh man, those Anti Skill is inefficient as always...or those Board Director just refuse to share their anti-esper device with Anti-Skill?

apparently the anti-skill doesn't have their hands on capacity down.

the only one authorized to use it are the researchers while the anti-skill use their military goods to handle the espers.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Anti skill, where is your capacity down device?

Oh man, those Anti Skill is inefficient as always...or those Board Director just refuse to share their anti-esper device with Anti-Skill?

Maybe the name "Antiskill" is a sign of how useless they are about 80% of the time. :heh:

[tsunade666]

anti-skill aren't useless in vol 20. They are used as frozen brain controllers of the jet fighters of academy city.

Most of the anti-skill are military trained but forced to enter as a teacher for the public view. Aleister use those military experts as puppets for his plan. Because they are well trained in military's way and strategy they can execute that plans in war. But the problems are the fighter machines of academy city are too much even for a well trained human being. That's why they are just frozen solid and confine inside those war machines.....

........................well they are ...........useless :D

[Wilfriback]

anti-skill aren't useless in vol 20. They are used as frozen brain controllers of the jet fighters of academy city.

Most of the anti-skill are military trained but forced to enter as a teacher for the public view. Aleister use those military experts as puppets for his plan. Because they are well trained in military's way and strategy they can execute that plans in war. But the problems are the fighter machines of academy city are too much even for a well trained human being. That's why they are just frozen solid and confine inside those war machines.....

........................well they are ...........useless :D

The Anti-skills(the normal ones, not the mercenaries) are teachers trained to deal with Level 3 espers, even Accelerator knows that most of then aren't agressive and calls them stupid pacifists.

[tsunade666]

well those anti-skill are not the war puppets that aleister needed. They are volunteer teachers. But most of the anti-skill that are performing under aleister's command. The one who raided avignon and the ones who are riding the sonic jet fighters are those military expert anti-skill.

But if accelerator view of the anti-skill as pacifist it just mean that the background of some of the teacher in academy city aren't well know or rather maybe fake identity.

Accelerator only knows the hound dogs. the one who hunts in the dark side of the city but not the dark side of the anti-skill.

[Wilfriback]

well those anti-skill are not the war puppets that aleister needed. They are volunteer teachers. But most of the anti-skill that are performing under aleister's command. The one who raided avignon and the ones who are riding the sonic jet fighters are those military expert anti-skill.

But if accelerator view of the anti-skill as pacifist it just mean that the background of some of the teacher in academy city aren't well know or rather maybe fake identity.

Accelerator only knows the hound dogs. the one who hunts in the dark side of the city but not the dark side of the anti-skill.

He does know in the vol.20 and thinks that A.C is very very crazy.

[tsunade666]

who? accelerator or shiage?

or both? I think rikuo had an idea about it but not sure about accelerator. Aside that accelerator knows too many dark secrets of the city. But I wouldn't be surprised if he did know.

[Wilfriback]

who? accelerator or shiage?

or both? I think rikuo had an idea about it but not sure about accelerator. Aside that accelerator knows too many dark secrets of the city. But I wouldn't be surprised if he did know.
Both.
Accelerator knows what is capable to do A.C.(for example when found a village in Russia reduced to ashes by A.C armies).

EDIT:
Volume 17 little update on Baka Tsuki.Suddenly, Acqua (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume17_C hapter_4)

[tsunade666]

The translations aren't really consistent. They translate whatever they want. And it's not like my position to rant. I should be thankful for it but.... it leaves you lots of question on what's happening.

Touma hid two things from everyone: one is the fact that Fiamma has a ‘3rd arm', and it appears to be very similar to his own Imagine Breaker, except that Fiamma's power can manifest outside his right arm. The second is the fact his own memory's lost. He plans to find Fiamma in Russia, and after hearing the full details on their connection he plans to beat the pulp out of him. End of volume.

I just noticed when Touma said that Fianmma's right hand works like his. Does this mean an awaken Imagine Breaker would form an ethereal form too? Like a third hand....? but I think I like better when his punching his opponents with his bare fist.

[pampz21]

The translations aren't really consistent. They translate whatever they want. And it's not like my position to rant. I should be thankful for it but.... it leaves you lots of question on what's happening.



I just noticed when Touma said that Fianmma's right hand works like his. Does this mean an awaken Imagine Breaker would form an ethereal form too? Like a third hand....? but I think I like better when his punching his opponents with his bare fist.

well if you said works like his...it means it really isn't related to science and magic huh!

[Chaos2Frozen]

Well the phrase is so general that it could mean alot of things like "The Holy Right works on contact like Imagine Breaker", or "The Holy Right has negating effects like Imagine Breaker" or even "The Holy Right and Imagine Breaker comes from the same source".

[tsunade666]

I wonder if Touma and Fianmma are related :uhoh: :D

It would be not surprising if they are brothers and touma turn bad.

EDIT:

I just want to see Touma gone bad. And I want to see him use magic and esper abilities at the same time. Because if Touma and Fianmma are the same. I just can't classify Fianmma's holy right as magic. It's got to be divine. And Touma too. And if it's divine like the saints. Then they are capable of using magic. And I think Fianmma is doing it with all his right hand magic. As for Touma. He got to level up his esper ability, Precognition.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Remember, the God Right Seat members are magicians that can use Angel-class magic, which I translate to Divine power, similiar to what we suspect of Imagine Breaker. Except that the Holy Right could still be explain under the laws of magic in relation to what the Right Hand represents in Christianity, meanwhile Imagine Breaker has been a complete mystery to almost everyone.

Though seeing how God's Right Seat is all in the know about it, I'm sure it's no suprise why the Holy Right and Imagine Breaker are similiar. Some time ago, I even speculate that Imagine Breaker was a part of the Holy Right's true power.

[Marcus H.]

Perhaps a Fifth power which is not connected to the Four Elements, but is connected to Aether? It's not a farfetched idea, anyway, as the Greeks believed in FIVE, not four elements.

[tsunade666]

I don't understand that element thing marcus. Aside from fire,water,wind and earth. Their could be void or lightning. But I would be picking. Imagine Breaker represents the void or emptiness.

Imagine Breaker might be a total mystery to all but some knew about it but they just keep their mouth shut about it. And it's also funny that they can erase anything but Fianmma's holy hand represents the power of arch angel Michael and as for the Imagine Breaker of Touma.... I wonder if touma would be having a third arm though I hate to imagine it. But if the 3rd arm would be using huge sword too.... nah. Leave it to punching. If it's an upgrade. He needs a gloves that has the properties connected to IB. So even if his wearing it. IB's ability are still present plus it protects his hands from additional damage and it looks more GAR.

The ideal form of Touma for me. Would be gold wings or blood wings plus precognition on a whole new level that he can foresaw even death......... too ubber strong. IB and higher level of precognition is alright.

[Marcus H.]

The Classical Elements at the time of Ancient Greece are five: Earth, Fire, Water, Air and Aether. Most people can discern the first four elements, but only those given by the power of the gods can gain access to understand the nature of Aether.

The same idea goes here; normal people can only control the first four, but only someone who has been gifted by a much higher being can have the ability to control Aether.

[tsunade666]

From WIki

Aether (mythology) originally was the personification of the "upper sky", space and heaven, in Greek mythology.

The term aether, æther or ether may also refer to one of the following:

The word αἰθήρ (aithēr) in Homeric Greek means "pure, fresh air" or "clear sky", imagined in Greek mythology to be the pure essence where the gods lived and which they breathed, analogous to the air breathed by mortals (also personified as a deity, Aether, the son of Erebus and Nyx). It corresponds to the concept of आकाश (akasha) in Hindu philosophy and is linked to Brihaspati (or the planet Jupiter) and the center direction of the compass. It is related to αἴθω "to incinerate"[2], also intransitive "to burn, to shine" (related is the name Aithiopes (Ethiopians)), meaning "people with a burnt (black) visage

Aristotle included aether in the system of the classical elements of Ionic philosophy as the "fifth element" (the quintessence), on the principle that the four terrestrial elements were subject to change and moved naturally in straight lines while no change had been observed in the celestial regions and the heavenly bodies moved in circles. In Aristotle's system aether had no qualities (was neither hot, cold, wet, or dry), was incapable of change (with the exception of change of place), and by its nature moved in circles.[

I'm not sure about this. But from the Novel. The Author tends to use the gods from Egyptians.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I'm not sure about this. But from the Novel. The Author tends to use the gods from Egyptians.

Not exactly, he only use the Egyptian Gods because they were used in the Actual Book of the Law, but they weren't refered to directly.

As for the whole 5th element thingy, as I recall Anieze mentioned it in the vol 7 that her staff represent it or something, so maybe there might be something on that point...

[Ashaman]

There has been mention of Christian, Aztec, Egyptian and a host of other Gods and religions. Hell, they even have Elves. Greek Gods and mythology wouldn't be out of place.

[tsunade666]

No, I mean when they are referring the 3 top espers. They use the Egyptian gods or aeon. That's why I said the egyptians. Though they could also use other forms as long as it's related to the book of law of Crowley and Aiwass.

Touma should really be the bad guy and Accelerator should be the good guy. That poor albinerator is just too bad luck compare to someone that always say such bad luck. Though that may only apply to their current status. We don't know the past of Touma so we can't say for sure if his bad luck is only at that level. But I think that's not bad luck or rather I would love that kind of bad luck :D

[Chaos2Frozen]

No, I mean when they are referring the 3 top espers. They use the Egyptian gods or aeon. That's why I said the egyptians. Though they could also use other forms as long as it's related to the book of law of Crowley and Aiwass.


The reason why Accelerator's Black Wings were refered as the 'Aeon of Osiris' was because that particular age is associated with death, darkness and generally bad stuff, which would explain why they manifest only when Accelerator enters one of his enrage moods.

[tsunade666]

then what about Aiwass gold wings which represents the aeon of horus. Horus represents the present time. And the oldest aeon is isis which represents the fertility or birth of the mother earth which corresponds to kakine and his seraphic wings.

Still they use the gods which are somewhat related to telema and the book of law.

I wonder if after accelerator has passed this trial or rather after getting beaten by touma his black wings would turn gold like aiwass.

[Chaos2Frozen]

then what about Aiwass gold wings which represents the aeon of horus. Horus represents the present time. And the oldest aeon is isis which represents the fertility or birth of the mother earth which corresponds to kakine and his seraphic wings.

Still they use the gods which are somewhat related to telema and the book of law.

The Aeon of Horus represent living for oneself, doing what one truely believe in. Also can be read as being freed from 'shackles' or 'bonds', sort of like how Accelerator was being restricted by his negative towards himself. Present time is also a good description, Accelerator was always so obessed with his past evil.


I wonder if after accelerator has passed this trial or rather after getting beaten by touma his black wings would turn gold like aiwass.

I'm almost willing to bet on it.

...Well, maybe not gold, but his outlook on life might not be so bleak anymore.

[Wilfriback]

Well, it can be something related to the light. In the vol.13 Accelerator choose the way of the Darkness while Touma is on the way of light.
-Michael: Fire
-Gabriel: Water
-Uriel: Wind
-Raphael: Earth
-Lucifer: Light <---of course, before his rebellion against God.
-God: ??? <--- I'm not sure about this but something that represents God is related to the "Big Will"(something Touma has a lot).

[tsunade666]

-Lucifer: Light <---of course, before his rebellion against God.


hmmm..........................Light............... ........Touma.................................


I wouldn't be surprised if Touma after regaining his memories or rather his original memories. I just feel that his always loosing memories :D or maybe it's just my wild imagination. That Touma had lost memories again and again or at least he lost his memories from his childhood or when he entered the city or maybe an altered memory. Just thinking about it made me shiver :D :heh: :rolleyes: :cool:

I want to see it

Touma shouting

LUCIFER!!!!

Then an Angel Decent :D

[Wilfriback]

hmmm..........................Light............... ........Touma.................................


I wouldn't be surprised if Touma after regaining his memories or rather his original memories. I just feel that his always loosing memories :D or maybe it's just my wild imagination. That Touma had lost memories again and again or at least he lost his memories from his childhood or when he entered the city or maybe an altered memory. Just thinking about it made me shiver :D :heh: :rolleyes: :cool:

I want to see it

Touma shouting

LUCIFER!!!!

Then an Angel Decent :D
I have doubts about that more when Kanzaki understood Kamijou Touma as "One that cleanses God and exorcises the Devil".

I wonder how close was Lucifer to become The Person Higher Than God before getting defeated by Michael and 2/3(for me the number was the decisive factor of his defeat) of the Heaven's army.

[tsunade666]

well aside from him arising to rebel again and showing up to mess around. I can't think of much. The next enemy after Fianmma would probably the angels or the artificial angel. That Aleister would launch or maybe Laura would do something again.

I really can't tell much but I just want to see Touma switch sides. He might be the one who cleanse god and exorcise devil but he can't cleanse something if his not opposing it. Or he can't even exorcise something that's not been shown yet. Plus if he beat up the god in toaruverse then his higher than god. :D

[Wilfriback]

well aside from him arising to rebel again and showing up to mess around. I can't think of much. The next enemy after Fianmma would probably the angels or the artificial angel. That Aleister would launch or maybe Laura would do something again.

I really can't tell much but I just want to see Touma switch sides. He might be the one who cleanse god and exorcise devil but he can't cleanse something if his not opposing it. Or he can't even exorcise something that's not been shown yet. Plus if he beat up the god in toaruverse then his higher than god. :D
Or God himself wants evolve through Touma in order to prevent any mess from humans like Fiamma or Aleister :heh:

[LastResolve]

if the writter follow's the christian religion direcly then touma could be the holy spirit
and it would fit because it existed in other religions as well with a form of a bird it also had a different name

[Wilfriback]

if the writter follow's the christian religion direcly then touma could be the holy spirit
and it would fit because it existed in other religions as well with a form of a bird it also had a different name

This always my bet, there are sins against God that can be forgiven but a sin against the Holy Spirit, no, never.

[tsunade666]

I don't understand..........

[Wilfriback]

I don't understand..........
What I mean is that Holy Spirit is higher than God.

Volume 19 prologue, suddenly blood (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume_19_ Prologue).

[zero_nmc]

Well, it can be something related to the light. In the vol.13 Accelerator choose the way of the Darkness while Touma is on the way of light.
-Michael: Fire
-Gabriel: Water
-Uriel: Wind
-Raphael: Earth
-Lucifer: Light <---of course, before his rebellion against God.
-God: ??? <--- I'm not sure about this but something that represents God is related to the "Big Will"(something Touma has a lot).
:uhoh: No, 3 more

-Michael
-Gabriel
-Uriel
-Raphael
-Barachiel
-Jehudiel
-Saeltiel

The seven archangels and the seven creatures that can migrate from heaven to earth,of course, not counting common angels and guardian angels

[tsunade666]

but what element does the other archangel represents? And role?

As for why is the holy spirit higher than god? isn't it the same?

Accelerator is being kind to girls... how sweet :D I'm a villain :D

[Wilfriback]

:uhoh: No, 3 more

-Michael
-Gabriel
-Uriel
-Raphael
-Barachiel
-Jehudiel
-Saeltiel

The seven archangels and the seven creatures that can migrate from heaven to earth,of course, not counting common angels and guardian angels

Well in Index universe there is only the ones I named :heh:

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Volume 19 prologue, suddenly blood (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume_19_ Prologue).

Ahh, Accelerator. Calling yourself a villain even if you did something that heroic. I have to say, that guy deserved it.

[Wilfriback]

The girl was pettanko... Coincidence?

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Accel doesn't have a lolicon or a pettanko fetish. If he did then he wouldn't have simply saved that girl and left.

[zero_nmc]

but what element does the other archangel represents? And role?

As for why is the holy spirit higher than god? isn't it the same?

Accelerator is being kind to girls... how sweet :D I'm a villain :D

well read this, it is long but you out of doubt;)

http://www.paranormality.com/celestial_hierarchy.shtml

http://www.demons-are-angels-to.com/Archangels.html

http://www.warsofheaven.com/hierarchies4.html#archangels

in a represents elemets mmmmm I don't no :(

Well in Index universe there is only the ones I named :heh: well yes, but may appear later :p

[tsunade666]

Accelerator are only interested on around 10. That girl even if it's a flat chest it's still a 15 year old girl. not loli anymore.

[Wilfriback]

Well my point about the HS is based on some passages I read on the Bible and descriptions and renacentists pictures where there is a white haired old man(God) in a throne holding a sphere(the world) on his right hand and bird(the Holy Spirit) flying above him.

well read this, it is long but you out of doubt;)

http://www.paranormality.com/celestial_hierarchy.shtml

http://www.demons-are-angels-to.com/Archangels.html

http://www.warsofheaven.com/hierarchies4.html#archangels

in a represents elemets mmmmm I don't no :(
I'm not an expert with the hebrew but I'm sure that Uriel means "God is my Light" just like Gabriel means "God is my strenght/power".

Throughout Jewish literature he is the angel of benevolence, mercy, memory and chief of the order of hashmalim which is equated with the Dominions.


Sadkiel, we have a call from Touma!

Accelerator are only interested on around 10. That girl even if it's a flat chest it's still a 15 year old girl. not loli anymore.
Nahhh, he is trying to be nice without acting like Touma just think about it, what would have happened if Accelerator tried to take the girl to a hospital/store by himself. Probably she would have fall for him like often happens to the girls with Touma.

*Wilfriback grins*

Mmmm......what if the girl happens to be on of Saten's classmates? I guess it will be more material for Railgun manga.

[tsunade666]

I just meant that as a joke that Accel prefers loli well aside that on a more serious answer. He wouldn't rescue that girl openly because that would be touma-like so I agree with that part. Plus he is the "villain" and not the "hero" or even a "knight that would rescue the princess"

Sadkiel would approach Touma. He wouldn't want to be erase by Imagine Breaker.

[Wilfriback]

Sadkiel would approach Touma. He wouldn't want to be erase by Imagine Breaker.
Such misfortune, eh?:heh:

[tsunade666]

such misfortune indeed. I wonder if the queen is something connected to Aleister. Like the remaining 2 level 5 of academy city are directly connected to Aleister too and Touma knew them before memory lost.

I'm imagining Touma and a group of gemstone by his side. at least 3 or 4 and Aisa not included she's far to harmless.

As for now Aleister had reveal only 3 gemstones.

[Bordix]

Volume 19 prologue, suddenly blood (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume_19_ Prologue).

I don't whats worse: getting turned into a human punching bag, or witnessing Accelerator "play with his food" for 5 whole minutes and not knowing whether he's gonna do the same thing to you. Also, oh yeaahh vol 19 is getting translated.



Nahhh, he is trying to be nice without acting like Touma just think about it, what would have happened if Accelerator tried to take the girl to a hospital/store by himself. Probably she would have fall for him like often happens to the girls with Touma.

*Wilfriback grins*

Mmmm......what if the girl happens to be on of Saten's classmates? I guess it will be more material for Railgun manga.

Well Accelerator is already acting Touma-ish so a harem isn't that far away :heh:

I'm also curious what happens in Railgun manga particularly vol 15 ; the esper wars is what I like to call it. I don't think Misaka was mentioned there... But on the other hand Uiharu was so its gonna be damn interesting to see what happens in Mikoto's side.

[tsunade666]

No, Accel having a harem is like not accel at all. His the dedicated type stick to one that would give it's ALL!!!

Accel can only love few but Touma can love all :D :p

The past binds those 2 on their current form and attitude. Accel is lonely before so if their is one that can share his suffering like LO and specially LO of all understands him most because of their past. But for touma who doesn't have a past or an erase past. No one binds him though the first person who he saw is Index and seeing her cry prick his heart leading into lying. Well aside from that he just doesn't want to see someone suffering. All his works are related on that one. When he saw someone suffering without further thinking he would just help out.

[Wilfriback]

Accel does the same but he just doesn't want others involved with his darkness.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Accelerator's not afraid to do bad things to bad people, that's what I like about him. Plus we need someone to do the smack talking around here!

...I hope that doesn't change :uhoh:

[Wilfriback]

I doubt thats going to change, probably he just will become more determinated to do the things. Thats all he need.

[Teh_Ping]

Hey, even superheroes have their growing pains.

Back from a checkup, need to get some rest. And I'm going to be doing Vol 8 tomorrow. So, no Vol 11 for now, guys.

[Wilfriback]

Hey, even superheroes have their growing pains.

Back from a checkup, need to get some rest. And I'm going to be doing Vol 8 tomorrow.

I guess you are a strict guy when it comes to order and doing vol.9 and 10 was something different from you...or something like that :heh:

So, no Vol 11 for now, guys.

http://sandmanreturn.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/ashita_no_joe1024x768.jpg

:heh:

[surerman]

Hey, even superheroes have their growing pains.

Back from a checkup, need to get some rest. And I'm going to be doing Vol 8 tomorrow. So, no Vol 11 for now, guys.

why I remember Five for Fighting's "It's not Easy"(Smallville soundtrack) with this line?:heh:
".....
even hero have a right to bleed,
it's not easy, to be me"

[Chaos2Frozen]

Back from a checkup, need to get some rest. And I'm going to be doing Vol 8 tomorrow. So, no Vol 11 for now, guys.

That's fine, volume 8 has some very fun moments :D

Plus, it's shorter to do, so for people like us (with certain attachment), it'll be less of a headache.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Mmmm......what if the girl happens to be on of Saten's classmates? I guess it will be more material for Railgun manga.

I was wondering about that. It would seem like a great plot twist, although it would be even better if that girl becomes friends with the Railgun gang, becomes another heroine, then Misaka finds out who saved her somehow, she goes WTF and chaos ensues.

No, Accel having a harem is like not accel at all. His the dedicated type stick to one that would give it's ALL!!!

Accelerator's not afraid to do bad things to bad people, that's what I like about him. Plus we need someone to do the smack talking around here!

...I hope that doesn't change

Those are exactly the qualities that Accel has that makes me like him so much. As I said before, he's such a refreshing character from most of the other protagonists in other series. Also, Accel and LO's interactions together are cute. It's absolutely criminal to give him a harem when LO is his most important person unlike Touma who treats everybody the same.

Back from a checkup, need to get some rest. And I'm going to be doing Vol 8 tomorrow. So, no Vol 11 for now, guys.

Get all the rest you want. You deserve it for being such a dedicated translator, Teh_Ping.

Yay, volume 8! Although it seems like something that should really belong in Railgun instead of Index, but since Accel appears in it, I'm fine with it. :D