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ken_FF
2009-02-09, 09:39
Sogiita Gunha's ability: No specific information is known.

He's one of the few pure "Gemstones" in the world, and also the greatest. No one has a clear understanding of his ability, not even himself. But, he could do the following:

- Create a strange explosion around him that throws away people around him.
- Even if he was shot in the heart or been pierced by an ice pick, he'd just feel prickly pain but would not receive serious damage.
- He can perform physical combat with double the speed of sound.
- Cover his whole body with unknown forcefield.

He also used a projectile-force which he called an "Ama~zing Punch" lol^^.
Not sure if he could deal damage to hitokata-san though n_n

Plant42
2009-02-09, 09:53
Want a description about the 5th level 5 esper's "Mental out" ability please

aman44
2009-02-09, 09:55
Crap...

That kind of power and he just ranked 7th?!!

ken_FF
2009-02-09, 10:27
@aman44: That's because there's still no clear explanation of his power. It's not even sure if it's really an ESP ability. It could be something that has relation with the magic side.

@Plant42:

Mental Out- The ultimate mental ESP ability owned by the 5th level 5 esper in the academy city. The range of its capabilities are wide and they include:

- Reading of other person's memory
- Changing a person's personality by means of brain-wash
- Telepathy
- Memory elimination
- Amplification of will
- Reproduction of thought
- Transplantation of emotion

According to Misaka Mikoto, it's an ability much like a multi-purpose knife.
The girl who owns the ability is said to be the Queen and the leader of the greatest faction within the Tokiwadai middle school.

kuroishinigami
2009-02-09, 10:40
The esper side is becoming more and more like heroes series lol. Wonder if there will be an esper that could copy other esper's ability or one that can manipulate time next ^^. that Mental Out is explained in SS2 too right? I gotta look for it ^^

BTW, what's a gemstone? Is it some kind of ability?

Plant42
2009-02-09, 10:47
The esper side is becoming more and more like heroes series lol. Wonder if there will be an esper that could copy other esper's ability or one that can manipulate time next ^^. that Mental Out is explained in SS2 too right? I gotta look for it ^^

BTW, what's a gemstone? Is it some kind of ability?

Actually there is one
From Wiki:

Rikou Takitsubo
Member of ITEM. She suffers from brain damage after fighting and being defeated by Teitoku Kakine; as a result, she can no longer use her esper abilities. Her ability was the AIM Stalker (能力追跡, Nouryoku Tsuiseki?, "ability tracker") which she uses to track down the esper. She also states that her ability allowed her to steal other esper's abilities by memorizing their AIM, potentially allowing her to become the eight level 5 esper in Academy City.

aman44
2009-02-09, 10:58
6 level 5's has been introduced, only one left...

I wonder she if can read Touma's past memory or it is nullified by his right hand

After reading this, I wonder which side is stronger.
Anyhow, Kamijou Forces will prevail!!

When magic and science collide, the epic story begins.

This story is getting better and better!

stillmissing
2009-02-09, 11:01
that Mental Out is explained in SS2 too right? I gotta look for it ^^

Didn't Mikoto explain it when she was trying to find a way to help Touma with his memory loss?

Plant42
2009-02-09, 11:22
Now I wonder if there are 7x7 team Battle between 7 level 5 Esper and 7 Strongest Magicians(Select from the one that appeared or mentioned in the story yet) , who will be that 7 magicians

aman44
2009-02-09, 11:28
Now I wonder if there are 7x7 team Battle between 7 level 5 Esper and 7 Strongest Magicians(that revealed in the story yet) , who will be that 7 magicians

I'm not sure but maybe Fiamma will participate or maybe Laura(??)

ken_FF
2009-02-09, 17:59
Now I wonder if there are 7x7 team Battle between 7 level 5 Esper and 7 Strongest Magicians(Select from the one that appeared or mentioned in the story yet) , who will be that 7 magicians

hehe now that's an interesting idea. If so, my line up would be:

-Aurrelus(or Aurelius, not Aureolus Izzard btw)
-Birdway
-Kanzaki Kaori
-Vent
-Aqua
-Fiamma
-Vasilisa

kinda reminds me of YuYu Hakusho, Rekka no Honou etc.^^

kuroishinigami
2009-02-10, 01:12
Didn't Mikoto explain it when she was trying to find a way to help Touma with his memory loss?

really? In vol 16 or vol 14? I couldn't remember reading it in vol 16 >.< Could I have missed it ?

A 7x7 battle is no longer fair with both Accelerator lost some of his power and no 4 seat out of the picture after losing to level 0(which I assume she either lost her power or dead) >.< Maybe Touma should join since his power can negate the magic of enemy ^^, though Kanzaki will pound him easily. Why is Kanzaki there but Itsuwa's not there? She's able to kick ass too right?

Bordix
2009-02-10, 01:26
really? In vol 16 or vol 14? I couldn't remember reading it in vol 16 >.< Could I have missed it ?

I think it was vol 16l, not that I read the novels but I heard it somewhere..

A 7x7 battle is no longer fair with both Accelerator lost some of his power and no 4 seat out of the picture after losing to level 0(which I assume she either lost her power or dead) >.< Maybe Touma should join since his power can negate the magic of enemy ^^, though Kanzaki will pound him easily. Why is Kanzaki there but Itsuwa's not there? She's able to kick ass too right?

I thought Accelerator "awakened". So, he never regained his powers then? and still uses that cane?

btw, are there any rankings in the magic side/?

KennethSoulSociety
2009-02-10, 03:15
My first thoughts. Then again, it could be all different...

In the Chapter 3 of the SS, it was said that Tsuchimikado bought it for Kaori and sent it over to England from Japan.

kuroishinigami
2009-02-10, 03:26
I thought Accelerator "awakened". So, he never regained his powers then? and still uses that cane?

btw, are there any rankings in the magic side/?


I never read vol 15 so I wouldn't know if he has regained his power or not.

It's in vol 16? I better read that again cuz I missed that lol

Master Assassin
2009-02-10, 06:40
In the Chapter 3 of the SS, it was said that Tsuchimikado bought it for Kaori and sent it over to England from Japan.

Hmm... so my guess is that Tsuchimikado sent that to Kaori while telling her something that made her wear that for Touma. :p

Or is it her own motivation? :heh:

aman44
2009-02-10, 07:32
After the fight among the organization in Vol. 15, their misunderstanding has been put off.

I've got some question...

What happens at #2 and #4 at the end? And where the hell is Touma and biri-biri at that time?

Plant42
2009-02-10, 07:38
hehe now that's an interesting idea. If so, my line up would be:

-Aurrelus(or Aurelius, not Aureolus Izzard btw)


Wow this blonde guy is freaking powerful(Accelerator of magic side Huh :)) , but what's the power of his Hlidskjalf(フリズスキャルヴ) Spell that make him defeat Gunha and 9 armed Imoutos easily ?

kuroishinigami
2009-02-10, 09:31
hehe now that's an interesting idea. If so, my line up would be:

-Aurrelus(or Aurelius, not Aureolus Izzard btw)


umm. Who is him/her? Can't remember >.< Maybe I nead to read it again from the first vol >.<

BTW, I would like to ask about the story at the end of vol 14. After Terra was defeated, what haooened with Itsuwa? I understand that just a moment before Touma thought she was dead sacrificing herself to defeat Terra. How can she still be alive and why she seems frightened at the illustration? Thx.

SealedTime
2009-02-10, 09:33
Lulz, anyone care to tell me what arc comes after Last Order? Kinda forgot

yozaku
2009-02-10, 10:41
umm. Who is him/her? Can't remember >.< Maybe I nead to read it again from the first vol >.<

BTW, I would like to ask about the story at the end of vol 14. After Terra was defeated, what haooened with Itsuwa? I understand that just a moment before Touma thought she was dead sacrificing herself to defeat Terra. How can she still be alive and why she seems frightened at the illustration? Thx.

Aleister Crowley isnt he??

stillmissing
2009-02-10, 19:12
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6083/mw17gh5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mw17gh5.jpg)

aman44
2009-02-10, 21:09
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6083/mw17gh5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mw17gh5.jpg)

That's the cover of the Vol.17?!

Ughh...
Urge to buy is rising...

chrisbad726
2009-02-11, 00:29
I wanna know, does the anime follow the novels pretty well or not?

kuroishinigami
2009-02-11, 00:53
Yea, the anime follow the novel, but some part is missing, and most of the fighting is kinda rushed I think.

That's vol 17 cover? Seems like it's going to be the magic side again this time >.<. I like esper side story better.

Bordix
2009-02-11, 01:01
^ same here

edit:lulz, wait, what, you like the esper side story but you skipped vol 15? http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/wertyu07/uwaheq2.png (judging from teh pics, it's like espers everywhere :heh:)


and changed my mind for the cover, those guys look adorable :D


Lulz, anyone care to tell me what arc comes after Last Order? Kinda forgot

check wiki

chrisbad726
2009-02-11, 02:31
Yea, the anime follows the novel, but some part is missing, and most of the fighting is kinda rushed I think.

Are the missing parts of the novel important or can they be overlooked?

kuroishinigami
2009-02-11, 04:51
^ same here

edit:lulz, wait, what, you like the esper side story but you skipped vol 15? http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/wertyu07/uwaheq2.png (judging from teh pics, it's like espers everywhere :heh:)


and changed my mind for the cover, those guys look adorable :D



check wiki


I just couldn't find it here in my country >.<. And shipping cost by ordering online is too expensive >.<. Well the cover do look adorable, it's just that I like the esper side better than magic side ^^. Oh well, at least there will be new vol of this novel to read ^^

edit : The missing part can be overlooked. Mostly just the prologue of a volume or an epilogue. But the fighting in the novel is much more awesome though IMO

ken_FF
2009-02-11, 09:08
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6083/mw17gh5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mw17gh5.jpg)

March would be a harvest moon! :love:

To aru 17, Toradora 10, C^3 VI, and Hidan no Aria III. :D

Anyway, I'm glad that they're going to continue the war with RCC arc. I hope they're going to elaborate about the imagine breaker this time. Maybe some explanations for the author's enigmatic comment about 神上[Kamijou] and 神浄[Kamijou]. I'm guessing that the Imagine breaker have something to do with the
"Luminous one"....

Wilfriback
2009-02-11, 09:20
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6083/mw17gh5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mw17gh5.jpg)

Oh God! Kaori looks very cute in the cover, I wonder if I can buy it n_ñ

Index & Kaori are going to have some protagonism or the cover is only for Fanservice?:eyebrow:March would be a harvest moon! :love:

Anyway, I'm glad that they're going to continue the war with RCC arc. I hope they're going to elaborate about the imagine breaker this time. Maybe some explanations for the author's enigmatic comment about 神上[Kamijou] and 神浄[Kamijou]. I'm guessing that the Imagine breaker have something to do with the
"Luminous one"....

Can you explain us about that??


Edit: Its not necessary, I know the first is only Touma last name, but other doesn't mean the state that surpasses God?? or something like that??

Bordix
2009-02-11, 09:23
I just couldn't find it here in my country >.<. And shipping cost by ordering online is too expensive >.<. Well the cover do look adorable, it's just that I like the esper side better than magic side ^^. Oh well, at least there will be new vol of this novel to read ^^

I see~

anyways, about the roman catholic church vs academy city war thing what volume does it starts? and
vol 13 - Tōma and Accelerator team up to fight against two of the most sadistic magicians they have ever faced.
taken from wiki..
Toma was up w/ vent and accelerator was up with?

chrisbad726
2009-02-11, 18:19
So do you guys actually read the Japanese novels or is someone translating them?

~Greed~
2009-02-11, 18:31
I thought Accelerator "awakened". So, he never regained his powers then? and still uses that cane?

I'd also like to know the same thing..... I assume that when they say he "awakened" he eather regained his power or became a level 6....hopefully a novel reader can clue us in though

kuroishinigami
2009-02-11, 21:07
If I'm not wrong, I heard that he awakened a new power to control his AIM. Not that I've read vol 15 though.

Lummie
2009-02-12, 17:33
Have a few small questions (3

Is it rly true that itsuwa have a sort of a rivelary with kanzaki about toma? Ken_FF said in a previous post that itsuwa won't give up on toma to the priestess kanzaki

Is itsuwa currently in the volumes the guard of toma?

Used Can
2009-02-12, 23:05
^Yes, although it doesn't seem to be an ill type of rivalry, just an "I won't give up even if I like/respect you" type of rivalry.

Itsuwa was appointed, as far as I know, as Tōma's bodyguard in volume 16. However, we don't really know if she'll remain as her bodyguard or not.

Lummie
2009-02-13, 10:08
Thanks for your response ;), yet i still have some questions left :)



1: what's happening here? :3

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9117/tmkss0157ssv8.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmkss0157ssv8.jpg)

2: and here:

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5121/330mi4.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=330mi4.jpg)

3: What's toma doing here?

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6258/001fk1.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=001fk1.jpg)



Hope someone can answer :heh:

MrTerrorist
2009-02-14, 11:54
I got a question for a certain....
Acoodring to wiki, considering she's a a master of Cabbalah Statue art and is able to summon a Golem, is Sherry Cromwell Jewish?

(Is Cabbalh is related to or a mispronunciation of Kabbalah, Jewish Mysticism and the fact Golems are related to Jewish folklore, i thinking that she is. I not surprised the Church of England has an agent from a different religion considering that have Kaori a Catholic and Motoharu an Onmyōdō practitioner.)

aman44
2009-02-14, 14:14
I've got a question...


Is Mugino Shizuri dead after being defeated by Hamazura Shiage?

omimon
2009-02-15, 03:18
I want to ask something, why does accelerator end up with a cane? I mean I know it has something to do with last order. It should be revealed in the next few weeks in the anime, but i demand to be spoiled!

Bordix
2009-02-15, 03:35
I want to ask something, why does accelerator end up with a cane? I mean I know it has something to do with last order. It should be revealed in the next few weeks in the anime, but i demand to be spoiled!

I think it has something to do with brain damage, anyways it's on wiki.

sasuke706
2009-02-17, 03:03
Amazing punch? Heh.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2375/1178005tj4.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1178005tj4.jpg)





What's going on in the Far right panel though? I can guess the left is Kuroko just getting her hair styled and rejecting a stylish offer.

And I don't know enough about the characters in the second-right panel to even be curious.

Last question is, how ends MISAKA's body rehabilitation? Or whatever you want to call it.

KennethSoulSociety
2009-02-17, 22:06
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2375/1178005tj4.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1178005tj4.jpg)

What's going on in the Far right panel though? I can guess the left is Kuroko just getting her hair styled and rejecting a stylish offer.
Valkryie(think I got it right) controlling the shop owner of a jeans shop in London, to hold down Kaori.

And I don't know enough about the characters in the second-right panel to even be curious.
Barubina is the nun with short hair, supposingly some sort of magical items and potion expert. She sells them as Italian souvenirs and Toma's father is one of her clients. Ridvia is the nun in the background. Both Oriana and Barubina is afraid of Ridvia.

Last question is, how ends MISAKA's body rehabilitation? Or whatever you want to call it.
I suppose it was going on smoothly as she was able to move around quite a lot in Vol. 12.

kuroishinigami
2009-02-19, 01:25
anyone knows vol 17's release date?

ken_FF
2009-02-19, 02:48
March 10 2009

Used Can
2009-02-19, 02:50
Sometime during March.

Edit: I've been defeated.

kuroishinigami
2009-02-19, 07:02
lol. Thanks ken_ff ^^. That means it will be around a week before it comes out in my country kinokuniya ^^. I can't wait for march to arrive >.<

ken_FF
2009-02-19, 09:36
@used can: Lolz XD

@kuroishinigami: Yeah. n_n lot of great titles coming out on march and april. I'm already counting the days. XD

MacrossX
2009-02-22, 12:25
Did anyone or group translate or not yet?

kuroishinigami
2009-02-23, 07:14
looks like this time they decide to skip one arc on vol 5 in the anime o_O. Hope they won't do it again in later volume >.<

serenade_beta
2009-02-23, 10:58
@Tjaard

Is what I said, but I'm afraid I completely forgot what the story was about. You can see the guy in the pics in the first post in volume 5's pics.
It was about some desperate guy who comes to the Academy City to search for Index and try to learn/read the books inside her head for something he needed to do (I think it was some person he liked?), but in the end, he failed... and something happened. Un, forgot...

looks like this time they decide to skip one arc on vol 5 in the anime o_O. Hope they won't do it again in later volume >.<

It's just Index, anyways.

Tjaard
2009-02-23, 12:58
@Tjaard

Is what I said, but I'm afraid I completely forgot what the story was about. You can see the guy in the pics in the first post in volume 5's pics.
It was about some desperate guy who comes to the Academy City to search for Index and try to learn/read the books inside her head for something he needed to do (I think it was some person he liked?), but in the end, he failed... and something happened. Un, forgot...

K, is enough so, if you remember other pm me, but i don't think that is a important story:)

It's just Index, anyways.

This is the truth, who cares of Index :D

kuroishinigami
2009-02-24, 01:15
hahaha, though i don't really care about index too, it will still be nice if they don't skip a story arc altogether cuz I'm afraid they will skip a whole volume next time.
I will be very mad if they decide to skip vol 12 >.<

Itsygo-kun
2009-02-24, 04:48
Is there any translations on the Internet of the novels?

longshot
2009-02-24, 20:01
i heard that touma's life is like a dating sim any ideas from the girls ( none of the obvious ones so far) will like him in the future and who are they??

Bordix
2009-02-25, 00:18
Is there any translations on the Internet of the novels?

There's this guy on baka-tsuki who've just finished translating the prologue...

link here http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2148&start=120

Itsygo-kun
2009-02-25, 04:14
Oh I see, they just started the poject ^^

Lummie
2009-02-25, 12:19
There's this guy on baka-tsuki who've just finished translating the prologue...

link here http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2148&start=120

I think it's better to start where anime left, starting to translate volume 6
/7/8 etc.. because the manga already contains a great part of the beginning, and it would seem rather useless to re-translate the beginning of the volumes. When they finish volume 6 and above, they could consider to translate 1/5, but that's my opinion so far. I'm already happy they started to translate :)

Plant42
2009-02-26, 02:42
AwwA can't wait for the Index's "Spell Intercept" VS Golem Ellis scene in the next arc

MrTerrorist
2009-02-26, 09:41
I just saw the ep 21 raws and got a question for all of you Light novel readers.
In episode 21, Motoharu arrives at the Windowless Building, Aleister Secret Lair with the help of... Awaki Musujime! But wait wasn't she suppose to appear in Vol 8 of the novels or she was actually introduces in Vol 6? Furthermore, I thought she knew and join Motoharu's secret gang after Vol 8 or she had already join him?
Also I find it odd that she teleported herself and Motoharu into Aleister lair considering i remember reading some of the posts of this thread that despite being a more powerful Teleporter than Kuroko, she has a fear of teleporting herself since the wall incident when she could have just teleported Motoharu. Please post your answers in spoiler tags.
PS. I been asking this question on naother board but people have ignoring so i just have ask yous guys.
Is Sherry Cromwell, the Golem summoner, Jewish? The reason i'm asking is she Jewish because wikipedia said she is "a master of Cabbalah Statue art " but i think its a typo and the user that submitted that info probably meant Kabbalah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah), Jewish Mysticism. Please answer this so i can finally ease my mind.

Bordix
2009-02-26, 10:29
^ I'll second Mr.Terrorist's question about Awaki.

just noticed that she was holding Tsuchimikado on his shoulder, I thought her power doesn't need physical contact? (she looks very exhausted though)

MrTerrorist
2009-02-26, 11:23
^ I'll second Mr.Terrorist's question about Awaki.

just noticed that she was holding Tsuchimikado on his shoulder, I thought her power doesn't need physical contact? (she looks very exhausted though)

This could be a mistake by the studio just like how she is teleporting herself when she hasn't gotten over her fear of teleporting herself.

Bordix
2009-02-26, 21:42
hehe, that or there won't be another season

ellifeedn
2009-02-27, 18:31
Do the higher ups in Academy City display any interest in Touma and his Imagine Breaker any time during the series?

FallenDevil
2009-02-28, 00:27
Can somebody putup a summary of volume 17 when it comes out..... please pretty please...!!




I need to be spoiled!!

MrTerrorist
2009-02-28, 05:52
I'm finally got my answer about Miss Sherry Cromwell from somebody at wikipedia. I can finally ease my mind.

maxikki
2009-02-28, 15:42
what kind of ability is counter stop???

Master Assassin
2009-02-28, 18:22
... Wikipedia just helped me confirm some things as how I've asked some of it way earlier, although when the information was updated, I do not know. But how amusing it was when I read the last lines on Kaori's Wiki entry...

And so I got to ask: when and how did Touma help Kaori overcome her pasts with the Amakusa Catholics? :heh:

ken_FF
2009-02-28, 19:12
what kind of ability is counter stop???

正体不明 (Counter Stop) - An ability where its details are not clearly known, just like what its name suggests. Some extent of this ability includes giving the power user
a super-human strength and and regeneration capabilities. The ability activates the moment that the power user realizes that she's not a human. Also, it is said that adding certain amount of power to it (exactly how much power needed is unknown) would cause great increase to its range of capabilities. Though, it is not yet clear if this "great increase" mean a devastating power or not.

Used Can
2009-02-28, 22:21
I've realised many of the abilities of the espers or magicians introduced are yet to be described fully, as they have many unknown aspects. I wonder if the author will ever plan to explain them.

kuroishinigami
2009-03-07, 10:25
... Wikipedia just helped me confirm some things as how I've asked some of it way earlier, although when the information was updated, I do not know. But how amusing it was when I read the last lines on Kaori's Wiki entry...

And so I got to ask: when and how did Touma help Kaori overcome her pasts with the Amakusa Catholics? :heh:

IIRC, vol 7. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Master Assassin
2009-03-08, 01:20
IIRC, vol 7. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Vol 7? Then that means we'll somehow arrive to that arc sometime past ep 23 I suppose...? Or I guess not.

Tjaard
2009-03-08, 05:02
This season finish probably with the vol 6.

Master Assassin
2009-03-08, 05:31
This is definitely calling for more. And I bet many of us can't get enough of this show... for now. :D

Bordix
2009-03-08, 08:53
Judging from the preview, I think vol 6 tis gonna end at episode 23 nd according to sb075's info, the title for ep 24 is "Primary Knowledge", this episode is probably gonna tie some lose ends and hopefully leave it open for another season.

Plant42
2009-03-08, 09:35
Judging from the preview, I think vol 6 tis gonna end at episode 23 nd according to sb075's info, the title for ep 24 is "Primary Knowledge", this episode is probably gonna tie some lose ends and hopefully leave it open for another season.

Yeah there is a possibility that Vol.6 will end around the beginning or middle of Ep24(Since there are only 2 fights left) and the rest of Ep will cover some details and wrap up for the ending.

Used Can
2009-03-09, 18:47
Only a few more hours before vol. 17 is released, right? I'll try to look for some information.

Edit: Meh, it seems the volume wasn't particularly interesting.

FallenDevil
2009-03-09, 22:35
Men this series is near it's end i hope it will have a 2nd season :(

kuroishinigami
2009-03-09, 23:12
Only a few more hours before vol. 17 is released, right? I'll try to look for some information.

Edit: Meh, it seems the volume wasn't particularly interesting.

really? wasn't it's about index and touma's visit to england?

Plant42
2009-03-09, 23:31
really? wasn't it's about index and touma's visit to england?

Well it's quite interesting, a set up volume for many things that will come in next volume of this "War in Britain" Arc.

Wonder if the holy sword Askalon will have a role in recover Touma's memory(It's the legendary sword that St.George use to kill an evil dragon, which is the origin of the dragon breath spell). The pinup color illustrations of this volume is feature that St.George's legend too.

p.s. This volume already release 5days before release date(Around 5 March),It's in my hand now.

FallenDevil
2009-03-10, 00:58
Well can someone as soon as possible post the summary of volume 17 i badly need it :eyespin:

Wargumm1i
2009-03-10, 05:02
The chances of season 2 is about 50-50%

Master Assassin
2009-03-10, 06:48
Well it's quite interesting, a set up volume for many things that will come in next volume of this "War in Britain" Arc.

Wonder if the holy sword Askalon will have a role in recover Touma's memory(It's the legendary sword that St.George use to kill an evil dragon, which is the origin of the dragon breath spell). The pinup color illustrations of this volume is feature that St.George's legend too.

p.s. This volume already release 5days before release date(Around 5 March),It's in my hand now.

Do spoil us later. :D

Wilfriback
2009-03-10, 09:07
Spoil me please XD

MrTerrorist
2009-03-10, 12:30
Good news, Baka-Tsuki has just added To Aru Majutsu no Index on their site.
Here's the link (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index)!

Master Assassin
2009-03-10, 19:14
Good news, Baka-Tsuki has just added To Aru Majutsu no Index on their site.
Here's the link (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index)!

Cries of joy has been heard! :D

serenade_beta
2009-03-10, 19:25
The chances of season 2 is about 50-50%

And the chances of the second season becoming raped is..........?

Good news, Baka-Tsuki has just added To Aru Majutsu no Index on their site.
Here's the link (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index)!

Uh~a... To think I would live to see the day someone would dare translate that mess of a wall of text...

kuroishinigami
2009-03-10, 20:55
Well it's quite interesting, a set up volume for many things that will come in next volume of this "War in Britain" Arc.

Wonder if the holy sword Askalon will have a role in recover Touma's memory(It's the legendary sword that St.George use to kill an evil dragon, which is the origin of the dragon breath spell). The pinup color illustrations of this volume is feature that St.George's legend too.

p.s. This volume already release 5days before release date(Around 5 March),It's in my hand now.

So next volume gonna be magic side again? I was hoping it's going to be esper side next :(. Oh well, as long as we get a new vol ^^.

It has come out since around 5th March? Time to hunt this book ^^. Can u spoil me the story before I buy this?

Sterling01
2009-03-12, 01:06
And the chances of the second season becoming raped is..........?


If a season 2 is made and it keeps the current staff..... I'd say 25%.
But as long as Vol 12-13 got animated I wouldn't care.


It has come out since around 5th March? Time to hunt this book ^^. Can u spoil me the story before I buy this?

It came out on the 10th (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E9%AD%94%E8%A1%93%E3%8 1%AE%E7%A6%81%E6%9B%B8%E7%9B%AE%E9%8C%B2-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%8 2%B9-%E3%80%8817%E3%80%89-%E9%9B%BB%E6%92%83%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB-%E9%8E%8C%E6%B1%A0/dp/4048675915/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236838152&sr=1-3)

Plant42
2009-03-12, 07:46
It came out on the 10th (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E9%AD%94%E8%A1%93%E3%8 1%AE%E7%A6%81%E6%9B%B8%E7%9B%AE%E9%8C%B2-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%8 2%B9-%E3%80%8817%E3%80%89-%E9%9B%BB%E6%92%83%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB-%E9%8E%8C%E6%B1%A0/dp/4048675915/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236838152&sr=1-3)

Nah, actually it's alredy released 5 days before the official release date(can order from the web since 5 March), same as the other Dengeki bunko release.

Tjaard
2009-03-12, 08:48
If a season 2 is made and it keeps the current staff..... I'd say 25%.
But as long as Vol 12-13 got animated I wouldn't care

Probably the next season covers the story of 7-12 Vol, i think :heh:

Plant42
2009-03-12, 10:34
Probably the next season covers the story of 7-12 Vol, i think :heh:

No, not 12 since it a love-comedy and setup(for vol.13) volume, so they probably covers 7-13.

If things come like that we'll got 5 arcs in season 2.
1.Vol.7 arc -The first debut of Amakusa's style catholic church and also the first conflict with Roman Catholic church too.

2.Vol.8 arc - Kuroko solving a case and return of you know whom.
3.Vol.9-10 arc -The first attempt to attack academy city of RCC.
4.Vol.11 arc - Touma in Italy and another conflict with RCC.
5.Vol.12-13 arc - Climax for the season that consists of many things.

Sterling01
2009-03-12, 12:07
Does anyone know which SS novel has the list of foods Index has eaten?

ken_FF
2009-03-12, 17:21
I'm not sure if it was mentioned in SS but here's the list:

Volume 1
Sour Yakisoba-pan×1
Kamijou's Stir-fried vegetables (w/ sour flavor)×1
Biscuit×1
Volume 2
Vanilla, Choco, and Strawberry shake×1
Lasagna×2
Kokumitsudo's Pudding×1
Volume 3
Deluxe Yakiniku set×1
Volume 4
Lodge "Wadatsumi" meals×good for 1 day
Volume 5
Fast food×1
Volume 6
Breakfast set×1
Volume 7
Not mentioned
Volume 8
Fried chicken×?
Volume 9
Maid lunch-box set×1
Mineral water×1
Misaka's cookie×1
portable food×3
Food from stalls×too many
Volume 10
Sandwich×?
Volume 11
Food cooked by Ursula
Food cooked by the Amakusa
Volume 12
Maika's stew
Hamburger, Potato fries, Juicex1
Volume 13
Not mentioned
Volume 14
Not mentioned
Volume 15
Not mentioned
Volume 16
Food cooked by Itsuwax?
Milkx1
Volume 17
Sconex?
SS
Breakfast set (including Touma's)
Sukiyakixgood for ? people

kuroishinigami
2009-03-12, 21:55
you've read vol 17 ken_FF? I'm still waiting for it to come out on my place >.<. Is it good? Please spoil me the basic plot of this volume >.<.

Plant42
2009-03-12, 22:21
you've read vol 17 ken_FF? I'm still waiting for it to come out on my place >.<. Is it good? Please spoil me the basic plot of this volume >.<.

It's focus about the affair in British royal family which is one of 3 power blocks in Great Britain(the other two is The church of England "Necessarius" and The Order of Knights).

kuroishinigami
2009-03-12, 23:37
and why is Touma involved in this? He must be the unluckiest person in the world for getting into trouble one after another lol. Any mention of Misaka or Itsuwa at all at this vol?

Plant42
2009-03-13, 00:09
and why is Touma involved in this? He must be the unluckiest person in the world for getting into trouble one after another lol. Any mention of Misaka or Itsuwa at all at this vol?

Laura The archbishop of Necessarius declare Index's call up order. Her mission is to associate with British royal family to investigate the bomb incident in Eurotunnel, and that is the beginning for the new misfortune.

Misaka only appears in not so many pages around the beginning,while Itsuwa team up with Touma(along with Sherry cromwell and Oriana Thompson(who is now work for Necessarius)).

p.s. aww can't wait for my beloved archbishop debut in Season 2.

kuroishinigami
2009-03-13, 01:47
Too bad that's there's no Misaka in this vol >.<. Oh well, at least Itsuwa's still there. Hahaha, can't wait for Itsuwa and the other level 7 esper debut too on season 2.

FallenDevil
2009-03-14, 01:47
Too bad that's there's no Misaka in this vol >.<. Oh well, at least Itsuwa's still there. Hahaha, can't wait for Itsuwa and the other level 7 esper debut too on season 2.

huh?? level 7? i thought that the highest level is 5 is this for really:eyespin:

ken_FF
2009-03-14, 04:35
huh?? level 7? i thought that the highest level is 5 is this for really:eyespin:

You're right. There's only up to level 5 at the moment. ;)

ellifeedn
2009-03-14, 11:36
I think that person meant the other level 5 characters.

hayate-sama
2009-03-14, 12:15
About the level ranking, when i read the japanese article on wiki about index, i see that the level is written in kanji and have the furigana which is katakara for the english word. As example, level six is written in kanji as absolute power and have the furigana read as level six, so what the other power rank mean in kanji ?

kuroishinigami
2009-03-14, 23:33
oops, sorry, my mistake lol. I mean to say level 5 esper.

I have a question about the story in vol 17. What's Itsuwa depressed about that makes her drunk and pawned Tatemiya in page 55 of Vol 17?

Used Can
2009-03-15, 18:32
I have a question about the story in vol 17. What's Itsuwa depressed about that makes her drunk and pawned Tatemiya in page 55 of Vol 17?
She lost confidence in herself after Kaori did that Fallen-Angel Ero-maid cosplay for Tōma on the last volume.

Wilfriback
2009-03-15, 22:33
She lost confidence in herself after Kaori did that Fallen-Angel Ero-maid cosplay for Tōma on the last volume.
Jealous by a cosplay .... scary

kuroishinigami
2009-03-16, 01:28
lol. She should have cosplayed too. It will be fun watching her cosplaying

MrTerrorist
2009-03-16, 05:56
lol. She should have cosplayed too. It will be fun watching her cosplaying

I have a better idea. Itsuawa, Kaori, Mikoto, Misaka 10032, Aisa and Seiri should have a cosplay contest and ask Toma who's the best & sexiest cosplayer!:D:D:D

kuroishinigami
2009-03-16, 08:54
lol that's a good idea hahaha

MrTerrorist
2009-03-16, 11:12
Can anyone explain to me what is the Imaginary Number Sector - Five Elements Institution,
and why is Hyouka the "key" to the Imaginary Number Sector & does The Five Elements Institution really control Academy City?

Lummie
2009-03-16, 13:34
Are there any illustrations out from volume 17? So yes, where can you find them?

ken_FF
2009-03-16, 18:26
Can anyone explain to me what is the Imaginary Number Sector - Five Elements Institution,

Imaginary Number Sector - Five Elements Institution = The term used for the Aggregation of AIM diffusional field produced by the power users within the Academy City. It is also the artificial city where Hyouka existed. It is said that within there, any kind of magic is nullified and any magic would not have any effect to the power users.


and why is Hyouka the "key" to the Imaginary Number Sector & does The Five Elements Institution really control Academy City?

Hyouka is part of the Imaginary Number Sector (as you've seen in anime). Crowley wanted to find a way to take control of this by trying to send his will to Hyouka.

kuroishinigami
2009-03-16, 19:46
Who's William Ortell, the guy they kept mentioning in vol 16 and 17?

Plant42
2009-03-16, 23:09
Who's William Ortell, the guy they kept mentioning in vol 16 and 17?

William Orwell is "Aqua of the back"

kuroishinigami
2009-03-17, 04:09
So that's his real name. Thank u ^^

Edit : I read in the wiki that Index found out about Touma's memory loss. In which vol did this happen?

MrTerrorist
2009-03-17, 12:48
So that's his real name. Thank u ^^

Edit : I read in the wiki that Index found out about Touma's memory loss. In which vol did this happen?

I don't know but i'm suspecting its a fake since the threads i go by people who read the novels in another site mentions only Mikoto knows about his memory lose.

Sterling01
2009-03-18, 11:32
Only Mikoto knows about Touma's memory loss.
Unless she finds out in vol 17

kuroishinigami
2009-03-18, 21:37
Hmmm, so it's either a fake or in vol 17? I better finish reading vol 17 to find out ^^

Darco_emp
2009-03-19, 05:59
I'm petty certain that only Mikoto knows besides the Doc.

FallenDevil
2009-03-21, 05:15
hey has anyone read the vol. 17 already?if so please post the short summary im pretty down right now >_<

serenade_beta
2009-03-22, 03:44
(`・ω・´) Illustrations for volume 17 added to first post~

aman44
2009-03-22, 05:33
Is it possible to put Oriana in Touma's harem list??

Lummie
2009-03-22, 15:08
(`・ω・´) Illustrations for volume 17 added to first post~

Thanks, there a few funny ones between them :)

faiz blaster
2009-03-22, 16:04
Say, so far according to the novel, Aleister Crowley is ultimately a good guy or bad guy?

bramabull4316
2009-03-22, 20:14
can anyone who has read the novel v.17 answer what happens in this pic and is that itsuwa? and why is she hitting toma?
http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p055.jpg

Plant42
2009-03-22, 20:51
Say, so far according to the novel, Aleister Crowley is ultimately a good guy or bad guy?

์Noboby knows about that yet, we only know that he had some plans.
But the most interesting thing is in the game "Dengeki Gakuen RPG CROSS of VENUS" Aleistor Crowley is the last and hardest secret boss of the game(kinda want to know how will he fight, since his power(or ability) is yet to be revealed).

kuroishinigami
2009-03-22, 21:09
can anyone who has read the novel v.17 answer what happens in this pic and is that itsuwa? and why is she hitting toma?
http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p055.jpg

It's not touma, it's tatemiya saiji.

SkoolRumble4Ya
2009-03-23, 14:42
Where can I read summaries of the novel? I'm curious to know what happen since the anime is done.

Used Can
2009-03-24, 00:44
Where can I read summaries of the novel?
You can try reading this thread on its entirety, and then ask for whatever you may want to know. That's what most of us have done so far.

You can also try reading Index's entry on Wikipedia, which was edited by ken_FF (our Index expert).

Lummie
2009-03-24, 17:24
I was really relieved when i read on wikipedia that touma cares about index as a sister. If i hate something in harem then it's that the first girl the main protaginst meet is the girl he'll end up with. I really wanna see him pair up with itsuwa, kanzaki or mikoto. Index is too childish, anoying and removing her from the show would be the best thing the author could do :mad:. Does someone know if his relationships with the other girls change in vol.17? So far the author hasn't show romance developpment.

FallenDevil
2009-03-24, 18:28
I was really relieved when i read on wikipedia that touma cares about index as a sister. If i hate something in harem then it's that the first girl the main protaginst meet is the girl he'll end up with. I really wanna see him pair up with itsuwa, kanzaki or mikoto. Index is too childish, anoying and removing her from the show would be the best thing the author could do :mad:. Does someone know if his relationships with the other girls change in vol.17? So far the author hasn't show romance developpment.

hey that is cruel taking out index in touma's harem well his only luck will be reduced if the author do that but i think it is better if he end up with one of the three girls you mentioned.

Used Can
2009-03-25, 00:09
Well, the way in which Tōma treats the other girls is not really different from the way in which he treats Index. In fact, you can say all of the girls' feelings, so far, are one sided.

Anyway, no, there was no romantic development on volume 17. To aru majutsu no Index is quite dry on romance to begin with, and I believe it'll remain that way.

SkoolRumble4Ya
2009-03-25, 00:45
You can try reading this thread on its entirety, and then ask for whatever you may want to know. That's what most of us have done so far.

You can also try reading Index's entry on Wikipedia, which was edited by ken_FF (our Index expert).

Good looking out!

kuroishinigami
2009-03-25, 05:34
Well, the way in which Tōma treats the other girls is not really different from the way in which he treats Index. In fact, you can say all of the girls' feelings, so far, are one sided.

Anyway, no, there was no romantic development on volume 17. To aru majutsu no Index is quite dry on romance to begin with, and I believe it'll remain that way.

I agree with this. I haven't finished vol 17. But from what I read so far, index series is not about romance and I think Touma will keep oblivious to the feeling of the girls around him unless they confessed their feeling for him.

Johnny
2009-03-25, 08:47
It's funny that he's pretty quick on his feet so to speak when situations call for his quick thinking. But he's oblivious to the girl's feelings, although it's pretty standard for this type of genre. Maybe a brick to the forehead will get their feeling's across quicker then a confession...:)

Quick question regarding Mikoto in volume 16.

How was she able to discover that Toma lost his memories?

MrTerrorist
2009-03-25, 11:43
Quick question regarding Mikoto in volume 16.

How was she able to discover that Toma lost his memories?


Actually she found out by accident in Vol 14. In Vol 14, Toma (In Paris) was on the phone with Mikoto(In Tokyo) when Terra of the Left attacks him. His phone gets destroyed in the process but it stills work for Mikoto to listen. When Terra has a talk with Toma, it is through this conversation that Mikoto learns about Toma memories when Terra figures out Toma lost his memories and knows what Imagine Breaker really is, but before he has chance to tell Toma what it is, he gets rescue by Motoharu and Itsuwa.

Mikoto is shocked by this revelations and wants to confirm it from Toma himself when he returns to Academy City. When asked face to face, Toma has no choice but to tell her the truth. She is both angry and sad that he never told her about his memories and the same time realizes she's in love with him all this time without realizing it. With the truth out, she makes him promises if he's ever in danger, he'll call her so she will protect him. (Kinda romantic huh?)

Johnny
2009-03-25, 16:09
Yeah it is, thanks...

Tunafishisgood
2009-03-25, 18:00
If i hate something in harem then it's that the first girl the main protaginst meet is the girl he'll end up with.

I think Touma met Mikoto first. He knew Mikoto before he met Index.

Index had more impact from the start of the story. First arc is also Index's. But I don't really find Touma ending up with Index appealing either.

ken_FF
2009-03-26, 04:36
Haha, maybe someone should suggest for a "Romance in TaMnI" thread since everyone have their own speculation on who Touma would end up with. As for me, I've already given up romance for the series since the so called "romance" (or the lack of it, as I've said before) in TaMnI is more of a comedy than anything else. :D

aldw
2009-03-26, 11:38
Considering the author is making a spinoff focusing on Mikoto, it wouldn't surprise me if she ends up being Touma's main romantic interest in the long run. Of course, it also wouldn't surprise me if Kuroko were to end up in Touma's 'harem'... :D

kittybear
2009-03-26, 11:58
Considering the author is making a spinoff focusing on Mikoto, it wouldn't surprise me if she ends up being Touma's main romantic interest in the long run. Of course, it also wouldn't surprise me if Kuroko were to end up in Touma's 'harem'... :D

Just to prevent Misaka from doing something...:naughty:

Lummie
2009-03-26, 12:09
Haha, maybe someone should suggest for a "Romance in TaMnI" thread since everyone have their own speculation on who Touma would end up with. As for me, I've already given up romance for the series since the so called "romance" (or the lack of it, as I've said before) in TaMnI is more of a comedy than anything else. :D

Well speculating is the only thing we can do. It's very rare to see a good fight in TAMNI:

Toma vs mikoto:

Well you can't tell it's a fight, it's more like watching a tissue absorbing water, same as toma nullifying mikoto's electric shocks.

Toma vs Styl:

This was interesting to watch and one of the best fights to think if you compare it to the others because styl showed some more bad-ass moves.

Toma vs Kanzaki:

Kanzaki: step aside, give us index
Toma: no not before you hear my heroic speech
Kanzaki: Be warned, i'm gonna tell you my magical name (cut's Toma)
Toma: ..... procedes with his nonsense
Kanzaki: oh no, we've got no feelings you say, we're no humans you say!!! Take this!!! starts to kick his ass on a barbaric way and brings him home??? WTF

Very boring

Toma vs Accelator:

great fight, this is how it should be

The rest of the fights in the whole story were crap,

note: toma punches sherryl to the wall and almost makes a holl in the wall!! Wtf, are we talking here about superman!!

As you see, the fight's are not worthy to talk about and neither are the explanations of some powers because it's bullshit and very vague.

Ladies and gentlemen, i have said my word :heh:

FallenDevil
2009-03-26, 19:52
hey i don't think that when touma punched sheryl it is natural for it to have a hole cuz when he punched accelerator he flew about 10 meters or more in the finishing blow.

Wilfriback
2009-03-27, 07:29
Sherry tried to destroy the builiding were Touma was, so I suppose that the building become inestable.

I was really relieved when i read on wikipedia that touma cares about index as a sister. If i hate something in harem then it's that the first girl the main protaginst meet is the girl he'll end up with. I really wanna see him pair up with itsuwa, kanzaki or mikoto. Index is too childish, anoying and removing her from the show would be the best thing the author could do :mad:. Does someone know if his relationships with the other girls change in vol.17? So far the author hasn't show romance developpment.
The first girl the main protagonist met was Mikoto :uhoh: and he(Touma) treats them(Mikoto & Index) like kids because they are kids:heh:

ZeroForever
2009-03-27, 09:39
to be honest the human skull should give way before even damage concrete gets hit with enough force to impound it with a crater. aka sherry's head should have splattered if he punched her that hard.

considering the number of times they go over and over how touma is normal in every other way, then they go out of there way to show him throwing punches with superhuman destructive power, (I'm not gonna even get into how it should be impossible to reflexively block lighting and junk). It just grates since they go into so much detail yet contradict themselves constantly.

Used Can
2009-03-27, 13:15
Dude, anime was never, you know, realistic.

kaizerknight01
2009-03-31, 05:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRkUzCAfe0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNyIj9-H_Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQITZDzW7g&feature=channel

It show the Light novels Characters of To Aru Majutsu Index

Wargumm1i
2009-03-31, 22:31
I wont deny that Toma´s fighting style is boring since its always just punch and kick nothing special... I do think he needs too learn some hand to hand combat arts.

Magin
2009-03-31, 22:35
considering that it's only his right hand at the moment that is the semi-haxor part of him... well, if he were to get an upgrade, it would be a double-edged sword. I would love to see him be able to create some sort of nullification field (yes, I know that would be extremely h4xx0rz), but that might also mea his misfortune would increase as well

... or does having all those lovely ladies around him cancel the misfortune, minus that he really has no romantic feelings toward them?

kuroishinigami
2009-03-31, 23:31
Isn't that harem also part of his misfortune? After all he get electrocuted and bitten and suffered all other abuse from his harem hahaha

FallenDevil
2009-04-01, 10:02
hey i don't think his harem circle is a misfortune itself lol it's his only fortune.

lol i remembered what he said in the anime
"the term lucky doesn't exist for me"

Wilfriback
2009-04-08, 01:44
Ken FF can you write a resume about the vol.16??? :3

Lummie
2009-04-10, 18:12
Read some parts on baka Tsuki since they added TAMNI to the menu but i find it strange that they started to translate volume 12. Isn't it better to resume where the anime left and translate volume 7? Not that i complain though, i'm already happy someone started to translate. ;)

Used Can
2009-04-11, 17:04
Ken FF can you write a resume about the vol.16??? :3
He told me several things about it. If you've got a question, I can try answering it.

Wilfriback
2009-04-12, 10:42
I'll be pleased if you do that for me (n_n)/b

MrTerrorist
2009-04-13, 12:04
Got 2 question, one based on To Aru Majutsu no Index Side Stories Vol2.
Are Toma's parents and Mikoto's parents good friends? Judging from the Vol 8 & 9 illustrations, Mikoto's mom and Toma's mom look like they were good friends. Also in one of stories TAMNI SS Vol2, there appears to be a meeting between Toma's father and Mikoto's father. Can anyone tell what happen in that story?

Used Can
2009-04-17, 00:33
I'll be pleased if you do that for me (n_n)/b
Well, as the description already pointed it out, Index and Tōma were summoned by the Queen of England to investigate some explosion at the Eurotunnel. Originally, both of them were supposed to go in a sonic jet, but due to what happened to them on volume 11, they decided to wait for the next plane. Only Sphinx took that plane.

On England, Itsuwa heard Tōma was coming; so, she went to the airport with high hopes. Since, he didn't show up she became a bit depressed, and started drinking. Tatemiya saw her drinking (without realised the fool mood she was in), and decided to play prank on her. He told the other Amakusas to tell her Tōma was still coming, and was arriving to her place to pick Sphinx up. Itsuwa panicked after hearing this, since she looked terrible and smelled of alcohol. She saw a silhouette of a man with spiky hair and almost fainted, but when she realised it was Tatemiya she became angry and sent him flying away.

(There was also a part in which Itsuwa was sulking over Kaori cosplaying for Tōma on the previous volume. So, in order to strike back, she started browsing through the Internet and found a "Great Elemental Spirit/peep-maid costume". I'm not sure if this happened before the airplane event, or after. We were also told she's under 18.)

Anyway, back to Index and Tōma, their plane got hijacked, but Tōma managed to stop it. However, Index got almost killed, which caused Tōma to become enraged, to the point in which he had an urge to kill the hijacker.

Anyway, Mikoto and Himegami barely showed up. Oriana Thompson reappeared in this volume, now working for Necessarius.

New characters were introduced:
- The Queen Elizard
- The 3 princesses: Riméa, Carrisa and Villian.
- The witch Smartveri

A new magical organisation called "The New Light" was introduced. This organisation was composed by four girls: Beyloupe, Lessar, Rancis, and Floris.

I'll quote Ken on the rest:

-New spiritual artifacts: The ritual sword Carthena and its replica, the Carthena=second. This artifact gives the owner a power equal to that of an Arch Angel, but only within the soil of England. It also acts as a power-source to send Telesma (Angelic power) to the knights of England.
-"Steel Gloves" which was created to simulate the weapons that Thor, the God of Thunder, used. It gives the holder a great power, physically and magically. Only Beyloupe can use the power to summon thunder, which is a simulation of the popular Mjornir.
-The Skíðblaðnir (Skidhbladhnir) which was used to carry the Carthena=Original.
-The great sword Ascalon which was created to simulate the sword that St. George used to slay the Dragon.
-Battles: Necessarius vs "The new light". First, Oriana&Touma vs Lessar. Then, Itsuwa vs Beyloupe. Then, Floris vs Kanzaki.All of the memebers of "The new light" was lost.

The battles: Itsuwa was kind of pushed by Beyloupe at their first contact ( since she didn't know about the divine artifact Beyloupe had). After the first battle, Beyloupe ran away via the railway, so Itsuwa got some time to think. Now, Itsuwa used a spell that changed the direction of the railway towards the Forbidden training grounds where new members of Necessarius were being tested. The facility was a dangerous labyrinth that was closed because of the many deaths that came from the difficult traps inside the facility. Beyloupe got trapped there, then it was a checkmate for her.

Kaori simply beat the crap out of Floris. Even the "Steel Gloves" was no match against the power of the saint.^^

Touma&Oriana was able to corner Lessar, since they double-teamed against the girl. (Oriana was already a powerful sorceress. Added to it was Touma's street-fight abilities^^). But, before they could capture her, the knights that was sent for coup de tat shot Lessar from the back, to keep her from spilling princess Carrisa's plans. Fortunately, the wound wasn't fatal, and Touma was able to bring her to the Dormitory owned by Necessarius, where he met up with Ursula and co. to heal lessar.
-There's also the battle between kanzaki and Knight leader, where Kanzaki got beaten up bad.

Carrisa was holding the Carthena=Original which was believed to be lost a long ago. Naturally, it was superior over the Carthena=second, which the Queen was holding. Remember that Carthena could send Telesma to the knights of england. ALL of them. Knight leader was already strong. +to his already strong power was the Telesma, which granted him the capacity to wield the power of an Angel. (In volume 4, Kaori had her hands full from just trying to hold-off the Angel's power...)
Sherry was going berserk against the knights ^^
The fact that the Knighthood was using violence to get hold of things got to her, and it reminded her of her lost friend Ellis, who was killed by the Knighthood.
-Coup de tat time: The second princess, Carrisa, raised up a coup de tat against the queen. She got hold of the Knighthood (In the Index world, England was governed by three great forces namely the "Royal Chamber" which was led by the Royalties, the "knighthood" which held the military power all over England, and finally the "Church" which was led by the Necessarius.) and took over the critical points of the country.

- Rimea was hiding in god-knows where, and villian was caught by Carissa and was going to be executed. That was when William Orville (a.k.a. Aqua) came, to help the princess. He now has the great sword Ascalon and his completed escutcheon.

-No harem addition for Touma this time. n_n

-Index was Caught by Carissa.

-The climax would come on the next volume. According to the Author, It's going to be Knights vs Mercenary.

Wilfriback
2009-04-17, 18:17
I was talking about Vol.16 not 17, I already now about 17 by Ken_FF D:

Used Can
2009-04-18, 00:03
Oh...! I think I'm seriously going blind. Anyway, in that case, you'll have to ask ken.

MrTerrorist
2009-04-18, 14:01
Wait, there no Prince Charles and even Prince William and Prince Henry in the Index's Britain? That's gonna piss the prince's fangirls and those hoping a future joke involving the real-life royal family.

Anyway, no one has still answer my relationships question. Won't someone help me? :(

Lummie
2009-04-18, 14:18
@used can and ken_ff

Thanks for the provided information, it's hard to find someone who gives little information away about the light novels.

Used Can
2009-04-18, 18:43
Wait, there no Prince Charles and even Prince William and Prince Henry in the Index's Britain? That's gonna piss the prince's fangirls and those hoping a future joke involving the real-life royal family.
Why would the fangirls care about Prince Charles?
Anyway, Index's Britain is different, as it should be obvious already. For example, Queen Elizabeth II doesn't show up in Index, we have Queen Elizard instead. I guess neither Sir Michael Jagger nor Sir Alexander Ferguson will show up in Index either.

Anyway, no one has still answer my relationships question. Won't someone help me? :(
I'd like to, but I don't have information about that. I guess you'll have to wait until ken shows up.

@used can and ken_ff

Thanks for the provided information, it's hard to find someone who gives little information away about the light novels.
I'm only reporting what ken has told me. So, all the credit should go to him.

kuroishinigami
2009-04-19, 21:15
@used can : Where do ken_FF post those resume on vol 17? cuz I haven't read that in this thread.

MrTerrorist
2009-04-20, 08:13
Why would the fangirls care about Prince Charles?
Anyway, Index's Britain is different, as it should be obvious already. For example, Queen Elizabeth II doesn't show up in Index, we have Queen Elizard instead. I guess neither Sir Michael Jagger nor Sir Alexander Ferguson will show up in Index either.

Clearly you have not read the Princess Diana manga. Also even though the real royal family doesn't exist, the famous people would still existed since without them, our current pop culture wouldn't be what it is today. Without the Rolling Stones, their style of rock didn't influence a new generation of rock bands like Black Sabbath, The Ramones, The Sex Pistols, Billy Idol, Queen and others etc. Without Alex Ferguson, Manchester United wouldn't be Europe's top soccer/football club and a certain player for that club would not become a top soccer/football player, famous model who married a Spicy girl and a hero of the sport.

Wilfriback
2009-04-20, 17:01
@used can : Where do ken_FF post those resume on vol 17? cuz I haven't read that in this thread.


Ken_FF PMed us sending the info.

kuroishinigami
2009-04-21, 02:50
cool. Maybe I'll send PM to ken_FF to ask some other novel resume too ^^.

ken_FF
2009-04-21, 23:21
Saw this pic when I was browsing through rainbow spectrum:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee294/harimakenji_scramble/n_l_.jpg

Strating from left: Beyloupe, lessar, Floris, and Rancis. Members of "The New Light".
You can see they're equipped with "demon parts" . (pointed ear, spade-shaped tail, devil wings, and pointed nails [=_=;]) Also, each of them are holding The artifact "Steel Gloves". The suit case held by Beyloupe is the artifact "SkidhBladhnir".

*N:L = New Light

Used Can
2009-04-22, 02:12
Wow... Lessar looks loli-ish. For some reason, I thought she'd look a bit older. Thanks ken.

@MrTerrorist: Yeah, I know that much, but for all we know, popular culture in the Index world may differ from our own. Therefore, as sad as it may be, in that world Lady D, The Rolling Stones and Manchester United quite possibly never existed.

shadowkittylover
2009-04-22, 02:34
Simple question: In the Index series, what is an 'agito'?

MrTerrorist
2009-04-22, 03:43
The New Light looks like some Lacrosse team rather than a bunch of witches.

@used Can:That maybe so but the history of the Index world would still be the same in a way. (The Gulf War still did happen, creation today tech devices like mp3 players, broadband etc, references of pop culture in the novels, Barrack Obama is still President of the USA.)

Wilfriback
2009-04-23, 00:34
Rancis looks like Tsuchimikado sister in law =_=+.

MrTerrorist
2009-04-23, 07:14
Rancis looks like Tsuchimikado sister in law =_=+.

You mean his step-sister.

Wilfriback
2009-04-23, 08:58
oh XDU upps
Thanks for the correction.

FallenDevil
2009-04-26, 03:25
hey can you post a pic of that rancis girl i was a little bit curious >_<

Used Can
2009-04-26, 20:11
She's the brown-haired girl in the pic that's in the previous page.

winnkey
2009-04-28, 05:26
hey, i have been looking everywhere for an index light novel translation, i dont know if this has been brought up before but 22 pages was a bit to much for me to go thhough, so i was just wondering if u had a link to a translation or something.

MrTerrorist
2009-04-28, 05:37
hey, i have been looking everywhere for an index light novel translation, i dont know if this has been brought up before but 22 pages was a bit to much for me to go thhough, so i was just wondering if u had a link to a translation or something.

Here ya go kid. (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index)

winnkey
2009-04-28, 05:49
hmmm so there is no full novel translation out yet then?

o well thanks so much for that.

MrTerrorist
2009-04-28, 07:55
No problem.

kyukyun
2009-05-04, 23:09
(spoilers coming ahead:)
It would seem that a 24-26 episode could not cover the whole volumes that came out so far. Things are getting pretty interesting, with

Things around the series' dark hero,
accelerator
are getting hot too. With his power awakening and all. Feel bad about
Last order
though, they looked so great together.



It would be really nice if someone would TL the series. :3

Wait what? Does Last Order die or something?

Anyone mind giving a brief summary of v15?

Nayrael
2009-05-05, 09:50
Last Order doesn't die. Accelerator leaves her after he joins the GROUP.
(at least, thats what was said in this tread)

Wilfriback
2009-05-05, 12:58
What happened with LO after that??

Nayrael
2009-05-05, 13:22
I didn't read the untranslated novels, but I guess that she continued to live with the gym teacher. Judging by a V15 illustration, she seems to have found a new victim: Illustration (http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8786/006cw7.jpg)

Hopefully, Ken or some other novel reader can shed more light on this.

Wilfriback
2009-05-05, 14:50
I didn't read the untranslated novels, but I guess that she continued to live with the gym teacher. Judging by a V15 illustration, she seems to have found a new victim: Illustration (http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8786/006cw7.jpg)

Hopefully, Ken or some other novel reader can shed more light on this.

And the choosen one is... Uiharu!!!:heh: Fuko da for her:heh:

MrTerrorist
2009-05-06, 03:31
I have a feeling Ruiko gonna love Last Order when Uiharu brings her over.

Wilfriback
2009-05-07, 19:48
Talking about vol.17 what happened with Kakine-chan after his match with Accelerator, Is he still alive??

MrTerrorist
2009-05-08, 06:36
Talking about vol.17 what happened with Kakine-chan after his match with Accelerator, Is he still alive??

I remember once i went akibako.net b4 it shut down and saw a doujin about Accelerator and Last Order. In one of the pages Accelerator (with wings) is standing over someone who's laying on a large puddle of blood at the middle of a city junction, with onlooking bystander everywhere. Even thought the person body could not be seen, the only thing that can be seen was some claws.

......

......

I'm not sure of the details since i haven't read Vol15 but you can figure out your own conclusion on what happen.

Wilfriback
2009-05-08, 21:10
I remember once i went akibako.net b4 it shut down and saw a doujin about Accelerator and Last Order. In one of the pages Accelerator (with wings) is standing over someone who's laying on a large puddle of blood at the middle of a city junction, with onlooking bystander everywhere. Even thought the person body could not be seen, the only thing that can be seen was some claws.

......

......

I'm not sure of the details since i haven't read Vol15 but you can figure out your own conclusion on what happen.



Poor little thing :(

Used Can
2009-06-02, 00:40
Have there been any news on the release date for the next volume? I wonder how many releases we'll get this year. There are usually 4, but there were only 3 on 2005 and 2008.

stillmissing
2009-06-08, 23:38
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8917/0518.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0518.jpg)

Nayrael
2009-06-09, 02:20
Aqua of the Back... first he beats the crap out of Touma and now he even seduces a princess/queen of England?! That guy is badass beyond belief!

EDIT: Ah yes, and how could I have forgotten about the fact that they needed an army of Amakusa Catholics to beat him? Seriously, can't wait to see him in anime... which will probably be in 3rd season which is far, far away :(

ellifeedn
2009-06-09, 17:26
Is Aqua a deeply religious person? Cause if he is, isn't he suppose to have a vow of celebacy?

Wilfriback
2009-06-09, 22:06
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8917/0518.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0518.jpg)

Oh! is Aqua with that huuuuuge sword Ascalon!!!! =_=U ..... That will be the cover for the next volume?
Thanks for the pic.

MrTerrorist
2009-06-10, 00:08
Is Aqua a deeply religious person? Cause if he is, isn't he suppose to have a vow of celibacy?

Considering he used to be a Religious Anglican who converted to a Religious Catholic, i guess he still a professional English gentleman.

Wilfriback
2009-06-11, 12:24
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/ilp/mw18.jpg

Nayrael
2009-06-11, 14:21
For those interested in how the translation of novels by Baka-Tsuki is going, here is my report (I am just a casual reader who checked the site every day to see if there is anything new):

Link to the website (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index)

Volume 1: Only Prologue translated by Holy, doubt that rest of the chapter will get translated soon
Volume 2: Not being translated right now
Volume 3: Prologue and Chapter 1 translated by Joay who is now translating Chapter 12
Volume 4: Prologue translated (and I reccomend reading it becaue it is very different from teh aniem version) and some parts Chapter 1 as well by Nera Sleith. Nera is faster then Holy in translating, but still quite slow
...
Volume 9: Prologue translated by Trabius
...
Volume 12: Prologue and almost entire chapter 1 translated by Joay, the fastest translator on BT

For those who want to read some parts from the novels, I reccomend following Joay's translations because he is ceartanly the fastest translator there. Other then that, I reccomend you to hope that TAMNI becoems more popular later on (thus it gettign more translators) or that novels are officialy liecensed if you want to read them because translating is going very, very slowly.

Wilfriback
2009-06-11, 21:20
I want to know more about novels but the translation is slow :(

Used Can
2009-06-11, 23:21
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8917/0518.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0518.jpg)
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/ilp/mw18.jpg
Thank you guys.

kuroishinigami
2009-06-12, 03:31
No confirmed release date yet for the next volume?

Nayrael
2009-06-29, 02:29
TAMNI Volume 12 Chapter 1 has been fully translated! (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume12_C hapter1#Between_the_lines_1)

Wilfriback
2009-06-29, 17:07
Finally!!
Thanks a lot!! (n_n)/b

Master Assassin
2009-06-30, 11:08
It is so funny Stiyl chases Archbishop Laura around - with his flame sword, no less. I mean, lolwut? Isn't Laura of a higher rank than Stiyl himself? :heh:

Anyway, this chapter is so full of lulz I can't stop laughing to myself. :D

Nayrael
2009-07-04, 18:46
Volume 12 - Chapter 2 - Part 1 Translated (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume12_C hapter2#Part_1)

Poor, poor Uiharu...

Wilfriback
2009-07-05, 00:23
Volume 12 - Chapter 2 - Part 1 Translated (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume12_C hapter2#Part_1)

Poor, poor Uiharu...

Kuroko is a terrible girl XD.

Bordix
2009-07-06, 01:50
oh, I thought they gave up on translating this. Hope they find more translators for the project.

tnx for the updates Nay, gonna go read it now :P

Eternal Aselia
2009-07-06, 14:03
I'd offer sacrifices for translation of volume 13. Really.

Anyways, I'm glad to see the project is still alive...even if it's in disarray.

Nayrael
2009-07-06, 16:22
Volume 12 - Chapter 2 - Part 2 fully translated and Part 3 partially (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume12_C hapter2#Part_2)

And so The Second Date begins...

Wilfriback
2009-07-06, 22:01
I'd offer sacrifices for translation of volume 13. Really.

Anyways, I'm glad to see the project is still alive...even if it's in disarray.
+1

I want to know about Toum & Accelerator fight and this:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/815/333ov7.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=333ov7.jpg)
Why Index looks badass with that mobile phone?:heh:

MrTerrorist
2009-07-07, 04:43
Why Index looks badass with that mobile phone?:heh:
Index: "Pizza guy, bring me my order of 50 Pizzas now or I will destroy the world!!":D:heh:

kyukyun
2009-07-07, 16:25
If I recall from reading previous pages, Index was calling Mikoto to save Hyouka, right?

tsunade666
2009-07-10, 10:38
calling what? mikoto? to save hyouka? did hyouka come back after she disappear? And its from volume 13. One of the gruesome volumes of accelerator. Isn't it connected to last order?
And glad the translation is still coming. Hoping for more though I wish they will start from volume 7. The one after the anime.

Nayrael
2009-07-11, 19:30
Volume 12 - Chapter 2 - Part 3 translated (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index:Volume12_C hapter2#Part_3)

Wilfriback
2009-07-12, 01:01
Thanks again, you are fast searching news (n_n)/b

If I recall from reading previous pages, Index was calling Mikoto to save Hyouka, right?
Nop, looks like Index is doing her "spell intercept" to an awesome attack via cellphone.;)

tsunade666
2009-07-13, 00:34
thanks for the translation

Nayrael
2009-07-13, 10:50
I am not the one translating it. I just report when BT translators (usually Joah) translate something.
So, for sending thanks join the BT forum and send a PM to the translators.

Wilfriback
2009-07-13, 21:05
New works from Kiyotaka Haimura site.

http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa11.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa12.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa13.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa14.jpg

http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa15.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa16.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa17.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa18.jpg
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa19.jpg

ellifeedn
2009-07-13, 23:51
I wonder which is better: that pic of Itsuwa or maid outfit Kaori.

Nayrael
2009-07-14, 03:44
That ascalon sword could have been bigger you know :P

Bordix
2009-07-14, 03:55
Nice hi-tech looking pitchforks.

Somehow New light reminds me of ITEM. They're magic side right?

I wonder which is better: that pic of Itsuwa or maid outfit Kaori.

I think I'll go with Itsuwa

*prepares huge shield*

Bring it :P

:heh:

tsunade666
2009-07-14, 04:01
wtf ..... nosebleed. Itsuwa is the best!

btw who's the guy second to the last picture? and is that aqua the one with the huge sword?
the 4 girls are the enemy in the previews volume right? then whats with the outfit of itsuwa?
why did she wear that? what just like kaori, just to make touma happy?

Wilfriback
2009-07-14, 09:22
btw who's the guy second to the last picture?
Is Fianna of the right, the leader of God right seat.
and is that aqua the one with the huge sword?
Yes, he is Aqua.


the 4 girls are the enemy in the previews volume right? then whats with the outfit of itsuwa?
why did she wear that? what just like kaori, just to make touma happy?
Is her revenge against Kaori cosplay:heh:.

tsunade666
2009-07-15, 03:05
okay that's a nice reason. I think the fairy beats the maid beats the angel. though can't say about the size. But its a killer.

kuroishinigami
2009-07-16, 06:32
It seems vol 18 of the light novel has been released. Hope somebody gonna post spoiler review here soon ^^

MrTerrorist
2009-07-16, 07:52
Got 2 question, one based on To Aru Majutsu no Index Side Stories Vol2.

Are Toma's parents and Mikoto's parents good friends? Judging from the Vol 8 & 9 illustrations, Mikoto's mom and Toma's mom look like they were good friends. Also in one of stories TAMNI SS Vol2, there appears to be a meeting between Toma's father and Mikoto's father. Can anyone tell what happen in that story?
Sorry for asking these questions again since i never did get an answer.

Nayrael
2009-07-16, 08:52
For 1st question:

Judging by the Volume 9 Prologue which has been translated, Touma's parents met Mikoto's mom for the first time in that prologue. I guess they became later on in Volume 9 and 10.
And while we are at Mikoto's mom, how old is she anyway? I mean, she is still a university student and ceartanly doesn't look like she is in her 30's @_@

tsunade666
2009-07-17, 06:25
She is an university student? Then the explains why she looks young. Wait what about the father? She doesn't look young with all the beard or mustache and all. ( Don't know which to called it ) And how about touma's parents? His mother is unexpected looking young too but his father is already bald ( though his also a woman magnet like touma ) Why does they have a great luck unlike our hero. Who's the materialization of bad luck. ( except for girls but maybe they are form of bad luck too )

Nayrael
2009-07-17, 06:36
Touma's mother is much younger then his dad. She even commented on how Touma, like his father, has a habit of seducing younger girls (in this case, she was talking about Mikoto).
But what scares me about age of Mikoto's mom is the fact she must have been really young when Mikoto was born. She must have been bellow legal age or else she would have ended her university life in these 14 years, even if she wasted few of those years.

tsunade666
2009-07-18, 06:59
Is their any record for the characters of Index? Because this novel has tons of characters. A little bit of info for each character is helpful. And as for your theory its really disturbing. I mean Mikoto's dad need to be jailed for touching a minor. Really if misaka's family are together you can't tell the difference in age from mother and daughters. If you add the father its looks like the father and his daughters. ( adds the mom )

Altima of the Gates
2009-07-19, 21:57
I too would like a more detailed source of info for the Index-verse. Too bad the fandom isn't as accomplished as, say, Type-Moon in the English community, which has things like Fuyuki wiki: (http://tatari.110mb.com/fuyuki/index.htm) to smooth things out.

Well, during the Angel Fall incident, Touma seemed appalled by what he saw as lolicon tendencies from his father, and he also has the attentions of older girls, so I think he's safe there. And yeah, Mikoto's mother looks and behaves pretty much like a big sister from what little I've gathered of her.

Wilfriback
2009-07-21, 10:46
Looks like vol.18 is already out
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/130/vol181.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/i/vol181.jpg/)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2999/vol182.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/i/vol182.jpg/)

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3503/vol183.th.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/vol183.jpg/)

MrTerrorist
2009-07-21, 10:58
Aww.... The Catholics & Anglicans are having a barbecue. Also lol, Itsuwa secret fairy costume for Toma has been exposes! :)

Wow looks like in the second pic, Princess Carrisa & The leader of the English Knights are up to something.

Wilfriback
2009-07-21, 13:50
Wow looks in the second pic, Princess Carrisa & The leader of the English Knights are up to something.
Still don't know his name XD.

higoku1
2009-07-21, 23:43
Still don't know his name XD.

He is Aqua of the Back, a member of the God's Right seat.

tsunade666
2009-07-22, 02:56
Who's strongest current opponent known that is still alive their? disregarding those who are neutral and still doesn't show hostilities. Its just pretty messed up and hard to remember if their are tons of characters.

Nayrael
2009-07-22, 03:49
I think it might be Aqua of the Back. He not just wiped Touma's ***, but an entire army was needed to fight against him.

MrTerrorist
2009-07-22, 05:56
Still don't know his name XD.

He is Aqua of the Back, a member of the God's Right seat.

That's not Aqua. That's the leader of the Knights of England, who's name i don't know. Aqua is with Princess Villian, who he rescue from the English Knights who were going to execute her by orders of Princess Carissa.

higoku1
2009-07-22, 07:37
That's not Aqua. That's the leader of the Knights of England, who's name i don't know. Aqua is with Princess Villian, who he rescue from the English Knights who were going to execute her by orders of Princess Carissa.

Sorry, thought they looked pretty similar xD
So in the end is Aqua a hero or anti-hero? I mean, he kicked Touma's butt pretty badly, defeated quite a number of Imoutos that were dispatched to attack him, and most importantly gave Kanzaki a hard time too :frustrated:. But right now he is rescuing a princess:uhoh: I'm so confused.

Wilfriback
2009-07-22, 10:55
defeated quite a number of Imoutos that were dispatched to attack him

O.o!!!!
Really?
I didn't know that.

MrTerrorist
2009-07-22, 12:18
WHAT!!! He beat the Sisters!?
RAGEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Big Sister Mikoto will have her revenge!!!!

tsunade666
2009-07-22, 14:38
If an army is needed to stop agua then his really strong. Is he the one that kill touma ( suppose to be but still here alive ) That made itsuwa berserk?

But now on a rescue mission? Maybe his loyal to someone and that someone is connected to the princess.

is it just me or in the picture. Touma just look like an extra. And their are really tons of character here. I only know itsuwa and kaori on the second picture. And really nuns are hard to beeeeat when it comes to eating contest. Can someone name the others in the picture beside side character touma and MAIN HEROINE index.

Nayrael
2009-07-22, 15:37
If an army is needed to stop agua then his really strong. Is he the one that kill touma ( suppose to be but still here alive ) That made itsuwa berserk?

Thats the one!

Maybe his loyal to someone and that someone is connected to the princess.

I think that he is loyal to the Pope more then other mebers of God's Right Seat (who are loyal to Fiuma of the Right)

MrTerrorist
2009-07-23, 05:52
I have 2 speculations on why Aqua's at England.

1. He still has some loyalty to England & is trying to stop the civil war as he sees Princess Carissa actions traitorous.

2. God's Right Seat see this as an opportunity to get a powerful ally in the Royal family so he's there to help the side that's gonna win the civil war.

tsunade666
2009-07-23, 06:13
Who is Fiuma? is he the leader of the right hand? is he stronger than aqua?

and then the pope. If he is loyal to the pope. Does this mean that the pope is an enemy?

Nayrael
2009-07-23, 06:48
Who is Fiuma? is he the leader of the right hand? is he stronger than aqua?

Yes, Fiuma of the Right is the leader of God's Right Seat. Since he is their leader, he probably is stronger then Aqua.

and then the pope. If he is loyal to the pope. Does this mean that the pope is an enemy?

Roman Catholic Church (RCC) are current main villains of TAMNI. From Volume 7 and onwards, almost every villain is a member of RCC.
God's Right Seat are their assasins, if I understood it right. Touma is their current target (or one of the main at least).

kuroishinigami
2009-07-23, 11:22
vol 18 is out o_O. It will be a while before my copy arrive though T_T. Can someone post a spoiler of vol 18 here? maybe Ken_FF or somebody that has already ask him?

Plant42
2009-07-23, 12:03
God's Right Seat are their assasins, if I understood it right. Touma is their current target (or one of the main at least).

Not at all, God's Right Seat is not just an assassin of RCC but they are a secret organization that reign over RCC and owns the power and authority in RCC more than the pope himself.

P.S. The boss of Vol.18 is incredibly powerful.

Wilfriback
2009-07-23, 20:25
Not at all, God's Right Seat is not just an assassin of RCC but they are a secret organization that reign over RCC and owns the power and authority in RCC more than the pope himself.

P.S. The boss of Vol.18 is incredibly powerful.

Can you post the scans or spoil us? Scans for example.

Plant42
2009-07-24, 20:35
There are two man to man fight in this volume both happen in the first half
1st battle William Orwell(Aqua) vs Knight Leader : Aqua wins(If anyone can remember the author's keyword "Mercenary vs Knight" in Vol.17. It's referred to this fight(Aqua used to be a mercenary before he join God's right seat) )
2nd battle Touma+Aqua vs second princess Carissa : Carissa kicks their asses(She is really freaking powerful with the true power of the Cathena Original)

The rest of the volume is a full scale war.
Begin with Carissa+her 20 castle assualt troop vs Necessarius+Touma, then continue with 90,000,000 English citizens(who gains the power from queen Elizerd's Cathena second) vs Carissa's troop
Touma destroy the sword Cathena Original in this scuffle.

In the other side Fiamma collect John's pen's external control spiritual equipment from the Buckingham Palace and retreat. He then head to Russia , aiming for Sasha Kreuzhev.

higoku1
2009-07-24, 21:39
Can anyone scanlate the novel or at least the illustrations and post it online? Much is appreciated for y'alls efforts :)

Bordix
2009-07-24, 22:38
thanks for the info plant

My interest for magic side suddenly increased, things are starting to get interesting :)
Begin with Carissa+her 20 castle assualt troop vs Necessarius+Touma, then continue with 90,000,000 English citizens(who gains the power from queen Elizerd's Cathena second) vs Carissa's troop


man, I'd kill to see that animated


Took a peak at the artist's website, Any info on this character?

http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/n/ilpa20.jpg