Valkyria Chronicles (PS3) Game Discussion

[Tiraken]

does anyone have this game? recommend it? i saw trailers for it and found it very interesting...it's a turn based tactics, yet it has an interactive battle system....not only that the setting reminds me of advance wars...

[Kroni]

I've been really looking forward to this game too, just one more reason to get a PS3. One of the things I really like is the graphics; probably the best animu styled graphics in any game, ever.

It got a 34/40 from famitsu, pretty good, though I don't really care about any magazines except Play.

[ZODDGUTS]

It's already been confirm that it's coming out later this year in the U.S. looking forward to it looks great. Also recently it's gotten DLC content in Japan:

"Valkyria Chronicles will have in early August a series of downloadable content, through an update that will just integrate those bonus in the game. Priced 300 yens (less than 2 euros), the Hard EX Mode will permit you to play nine battles in Free Battle mode in a very high mode of difficulty, even more than the original game, which is not nothing.

A new episode priced 600 yen (3.5 euros) will introduce a new character with bunches, Edie, and her battalion. A new scenario for all those who wish to extend this tactic mixing action-RPG and strategy experience. It is not known at this time if the arrival of this content is also planned at the release of the game in Europe, scheduled for next fall."

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-163202.aspx

[DeotoxSlayer]

It's already been confirm that it's coming out later this year in the U.S. looking forward to it looks great. Also recently it's gotten DLC content in Japan:

It's actually been confirmed that it's coming out in November in America.

[mandarb916]

does anyone have this game? recommend it? i saw trailers for it and found it very interesting...it's a turn based tactics, yet it has an interactive battle system....not only that the setting reminds me of advance wars...

I HIGHLY recommend it...especially if they keep the Japanese VA's as an option in the western version.

VA's are cream of the crop...I don't think I've ever heard of a game coming close to this caliber of casting really. Maybe WKC as Hino has mentioned that WKC will have a high caliber cast lineup too, but the cast hasn't been announced yet.

The battle system is very intuitive and there are more ways than one to fry a fish, so to speak.

Personally, I enjoyed it much much more than MGS4 or GTA4. It's a great IP and imho, easily one of sega's top5 best games they've ever produced.

[Sety]

Valkyria Chronicles is easily a great game to any collection. Just don't be silly enough to get a console only for one game but its still one of the better reasons to. Also cool little note but you can get Vyse and Aika from Skies of Arcadia as bonus cameo characters.

[mandarb916]

Valkyria Chronicles is easily a great game to any collection. Just don't be silly enough to get a console only for one game but its still one of the better reasons to. Also cool little note but you can get Vyse and Aika from Skies of Arcadia as bonus cameo characters.

hey now...it was one of 2 reasons I bought a PS3... :| (other one being Agarest Senki)

non-playable, but Fina, Shaina, and Maina (i think those were their names) is also in there as well

[Tiraken]

i'm curious, how much knowledge of japanese language is required to play the game? i'd really much rather get the JP version in fear that the NTSC will take away the VA...=.=....

[ZODDGUTS]

Highly doubt they will take out the JP VA since the blu ray is big enough to be able to fit both the NA VA and JP VA in the disk.

[mandarb916]

Highly doubt they will take out the JP VA since the blu ray is big enough to be able to fit both the NA VA and JP VA in the disk.

Royalties to the VAs might be cost prohibitive to do a worldwide JPN script track release, though...which would be more of an issue than space on BD imho...

[Varion]

Dual audio was confirmed a couple of months back.

Just started playing this last night actually. Up to chapter 3 so far and loving it, so if it keeps this up (or gets better, which is more likely) I can easily recommend the game to anyone interested.

[King Lycan]

Can't wait for this game XD

[Graus]

Dual audio was confirmed a couple of months back.

Just started playing this last night actually. Up to chapter 3 so far and loving it, so if it keeps this up (or gets better, which is more likely) I can easily recommend the game to anyone interested.

This news is great, I tip my hat at Sega for this.

[mandarb916]

i can't find any news confirming the dual audio...any links?

[Snuffle]

Never heard of this game... So this is like a strategy rpg with fps mixed into it?

I saw some videos and I'm not very pleased with the sound quality the game has, especially for the guns. But that would be a minor thing if the game has great character customization. Does it?

[mandarb916]

It's not an FPS at all. If that's what you're looking for, then do yourself a favor and avoid this title altogether. It's a turn based SRPG that takes place in a 3D environment with real-time retaliation. Basically, instead of having a grid to move around on, use a 3D map, and have the limiting factor be the total amount of movement you have in any given turn.

The sound effects aren't the best, but the music is extremely well done, and the gameplay is superb. All characters of the same type level up at the same rate. You can individually customize each character to have a slightly different main weapon depending on how far down the equipment tree you've gone down.

Each character has a different personality type in terms of actual voice acting as well as the random characteristics they have (some have dust allergies, others don't do well under panicked situations, etc)...there's one character who joined because of family heritage (ancestors were all in the army) but is a pacifist and won't fire a shot if it will end up killing her target. A lot of personality quircks that make it fun and interesting choosing your squad.

The fact that the actual combat aspect is really well done, though, minimizes noticing of the shortcomings the game has. Personally, i think it's easily in the top 5 best games sega has produced historically.

[Girsej]

I've been semi-interested in this but I tried the demo on the Euro PSN and I really liked it ^^ So much that it's become the game I'm most looking forward to this fall, although that might've something to do with the close release-date ;D

[MakubeX2]

By the time this game gets a worldwide release, those who have the original Japanese version will get their 2nd add-on to the game featuring a side story about Selvaria as well as a chance to get and use the customise uber cool looking assault machine rifle that she uses in her final stand aganist your forces.

The add-ons, I must say, is still in doubt for those outside Japan as it all depends on how well the game is recieve. But there is hope since Senjo No Valkyria bombed initailly in it's domestical market but Sega continues on to release 2 Add-Ons on the PSN.

[Chrono Helix]

I regularly go to 2 forums dedicated to gaming and the reaction to Valkyria Chronicles in both of them has been very positive ever since the demo was made available.

[Narzia]

Since everyone praised the game i gave the demo a try, not knowing anything about it other than it being a JRPG (or so i thought).
Jesus christ the combat-system is horrible.. the setting looks boring (maybe because of the art style.. i'm not sure. The style itself is ok.. but the backgrounds etc. look kinda empty) Never before have i been turned-off like that.

[Duo Maxwell]

Since everyone praised the game i gave the demo a try, not knowing anything about it other than it being a JRPG (or so i thought).
Jesus christ the combat-system is horrible.. the setting looks boring (maybe because of the art style.. i'm not sure. The style itself is ok.. but the backgrounds etc. look kinda empty) Never before have i been turned-off like that before.

Well....actually, I was waiting for this kind of post happen. You can't please everyone, I guess.
I'll hold my judgment until I play the game, but from what I have seen and heard, it's quite good, from both the trailer and everyone who did play the demo.

[Shinndou]

It is good. I have finished this game long ago (I have the japanese import version), and it's worth its bucks for sure.

[MakubeX2]

This game is kinda short for a RPG though (23 stages) and do not have that epic feel. (You are not saving the world but a small country) People might be interested that the titled Character only appears in 2-3 stages and as a NPC.

What is does give me is a interactive anime war drama, something like Band Of Brothers. Or if people here want a game that comparable to this, Brothers In Arms but everything design in Anime format and untilise a system og semi turn-based 3rd Person shooter with a unique character quirk for all the characters.

[Shinndou]

I wouldn't call it short per se though. It has a good replaying factor, for instance.

[MakubeX2]

I wouldn't call it short per se though. It has a good replaying factor, for instance.

There isn't much in replaying stages (for me at least) via skirmishes mode other than to get more cash for wepons and armour upgrades and/or to challenge yourself to get better rankings.

The other thing about this game is that most of the characters you use remain grunts with faces that do not have their stories told other than with minor write up in the characters' glossary. Of course, this could change if Sega stay constant with their DLCs as we have seen with Idie and some of her cohorts and now, Selvaria.

But don't get me wrong here, this game remains a unique experience for me in my book and I will be glad if future SRPG take a leaf from it.

[ShinGundam]

Reviews goes Gold

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/p3/v/a/vaobp300a.jpg

PGLand10/10
OPM4.5/5
Games(tm)9/10
EuroGamer Portugal9/10
RPGFan 88/10
Gameplayer 8.5/10"almost worth buying a PS3 for"
EuroGamer8/10
Jeuxvideo 18/20

[King Lycan]

Gets released the same day R2 does >_>

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

Man three ps3 exclusives in coming out on the same day. I'm getting R2 and VC first then I'll grab Naruto later.

[King Lycan]

I'll have to buy both of these games with a pair of headsets on the 9th when i get paid :D

[MakubeX2]

The Europeans will be getting their copies by the end of this week, while the Japanese gets their 2nd DLC.

For me, I'm just glad that I saved enough cash in my Japanese PSN account wallet to get the DLC on it's release date. My main concern is that Selvaria's customise Machine Assault Rifle, Ruhm, does not make things in Hard-EX mode any less challenging. That gun was punishing aganist my squard, will it do the same aganist the enemies ?

PS:-
Somehow I feel this game will end up as a sleeper hit of '08. Sure it gets positive reviews, but aganist heavyweight (and much more heavily marketed) titles like LBP, Fallout 3 and Resistance 2, it will slip under most gamer's radar.

[King Lycan]

Yea thats true sadly :upset:
But i'll try my best to advertise the game

[Vikitehwaffu]

This game is kinda short for a RPG though (23 stages) and do not have that epic feel. (You are not saving the world but a small country) People might be interested that the titled Character only appears in 2-3 stages and as a NPC.

What is does give me is a interactive anime war drama, something like Band Of Brothers. Or if people here want a game that comparable to this, Brothers In Arms but everything design in Anime format and untilise a system og semi turn-based 3rd Person shooter with a unique character quirk for all the characters.

Generally in Suikoden you aren't saving the world either, just saving your country.

[MakubeX2]

Now that I'm done with the 2nd DLC, here's a brife writeup of it :-

The DLC place us in the midst of Selberia's invasion and defense of Ghirlandio (so we have 2 battles this time round) and is narrated by a faceless imperial supply grunt named Carl handpick by Selberia to be her runner, so we get to see his view of the war and what he thinks of Selberia.

The map reuse the exterior and interior of Ghirlandio from the game, except certain places are barricaded. Selberia is officially the strongest scout unit in the game here even without the effects of Orders, she has over 600 HP and her Ruhm can take a tank down with just 6 shots at the engine.(Ruhm fire 20 shots per attack/turn) But she don't carry healing Ragnite and Grenades, (for good reasons too) that's why she needs a supply runner.

After the first sortie, we see the feminine tender motherly side of Selberia.(Surprise, surprise) And She can blush despite that cool manly exterior she has shown in the main game.

2nd part of the DLC just mainly deal with Selberia being a Damsel in Distress after falling into a trap and it's up to our faceless Knight to rescue, after that it's a cakewalk.

As for Ruhm, that thing can only be wield by Assault Troopers. (Selbeira is an exception despite she being a Scout) and as expected, it possess extraordinary stats for an firearm. It's as deadly in the hands of a ordinary Assault Troop as in Selberia's hands.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

I had my eye on this game for a while and today I finally preordered the US copy. I'm such a sucker for SRPGs. Seems really good from what I've been reading so I can't wait to play it.

[MakubeX2]

Come to think about it, Sega has employed a large pool of Seiyuus for this title in Japan. (including popular ones such as Noto, the 2 Otsuka and of course, Marina Inoue)

So much so that I fear for the English Dub, given the small pool of anime Voice Actors in the US, we may perhaps hear the same voice for 2-3 different characters for the English dub in the game.

[kujoe]

So much so that I fear for the English Dub, given the small pool of anime Voice Actors in the US, we may perhaps hear the same voice for 2-3 different characters for the English dub in the game.
Sega has said that they've made a big effort of localizing this game for the West, and as a bonus they also left the original Japanese language track as an option. No problems there, even if the English dub ends up bad.

Great use for all that remaining space on the blu-ray disc, if you ask me.

source (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/08/14/valkyria-chronicles-comes-out-in-november-with-voiceover-options/)

[mpt37]

People might be interested that the titled Character only appears in 2-3 stages and as a NPC.

I downloaded the demo and was thinking about getting the game until I read this. When you say "titled characters" are you referring to Welkin, Alicia, Rosie, etc? because from watching the trailers I thought these characters would get more screen time since they're the focus of all the trailers I've seen. But, if they aren't, does that mean you're just playing as unknown soldiers the majority of time?

[MakubeX2]

I downloaded the demo and was thinking about getting the game until I read this. When you say "titled characters" are you referring to Welkin, Alicia, Rosie, etc?

The "Valkyria".

[rainnydaiis]

Finally the game comes out tomorrow for US residents. I pre-ordered it today because I entirely forgot about this game. But got reminded of it while I was buying Fable2

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Tomorrow is the day, can't wait. I've been viewing and reviewing game footage online to get me pumped.

[TrueKnight]

The game is getting decent reviews as can be seen here,

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/942165.asp

Unfortunately I can only get this game at end month because I’m leaning more towards the Last Remnant and probably Gears 2. My wallet is already thin as it is because of Fable 2 and Little Big Planet, which I enjoyed both big times.

But again, so far this game looks gold, agh. Maybe I’ll purchase this and leave Last Remnant next month instead. Dunno.

[King Lycan]

I'm so tight for money i have to buy Mirrors Edge next week :(

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

I'm so tight for money i have to buy Mirrors Edge next week :(

Thats another game I've had my eye on, but I preordered Valkryia so I must get it.:)

[King Lycan]

And i have to get Valkryia and McCain

EDIT: WTF i meant R2 :P

[rainnydaiis]

And i have to get Valkryia and McCain

EDIT: WTF i meant R2 :P

"Speechless" :heh:

yeah tomorrow gotta go pick it up~~ wewt~~

[Vikitehwaffu]

Now that I'm done with the 2nd DLC, here's a brife writeup of it :-

The DLC place us in the midst of Selberia's invasion and defense of Ghirlandio (so we have 2 battles this time round) and is narrated by a faceless imperial supply grunt named Carl handpick by Selberia to be her runner, so we get to see his view of the war and what he thinks of Selberia.

The map reuse the exterior and interior of Ghirlandio from the game, except certain places are barricaded. Selberia is officially the strongest scout unit in the game here even without the effects of Orders, she has over 600 HP and her Ruhm can take a tank down with just 6 shots at the engine.(Ruhm fire 20 shots per attack/turn) But she don't carry healing Ragnite and Grenades, (for good reasons too) that's why she needs a supply runner.

After the first sortie, we see the feminine tender motherly side of Selberia.(Surprise, surprise) And She can blush despite that cool manly exterior she has shown in the main game.

2nd part of the DLC just mainly deal with Selberia being a Damsel in Distress after falling into a trap and it's up to our faceless Knight to rescue, after that it's a cakewalk.

As for Ruhm, that thing can only be wield by Assault Troopers. (Selbeira is an exception despite she being a Scout) and as expected, it possess extraordinary stats for an firearm. It's as deadly in the hands of a ordinary Assault Troop as in Selberia's hands.

Maybe it's just me being cynical about Japanese media and not having actually played it, but that sounds like Japan has a problem displaying strong female characters that aren't fragile on the inside.

[MakubeX2]

Maybe it's just me being cynical about Japanese media and not having actually played it, but that sounds like Japan has a problem displaying strong female characters that aren't fragile on the inside.

Try looking at all the James Bond Girls if you are convince that this aspect is only present in Japanese Storytelling Media.

and.....

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/04/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-heading-west-in-2009/

Nothing too surprising here. What I do hope is that they will keep the Japanese audio tracks intact.

[ZODDGUTS]

The game is getting decent reviews as can be seen here,

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/942165.asp



Decent? More like great reviews. :)

Plan on getting this game looks great.

[TrueKnight]

Alright, after some consideration I decide to get this, Fallout 3 (PS3) and Gears of Wars 2 (360) this weekend. Seeing how VC gets lots,and I mean lots of positive ratings/reviews for an anime styled J-SRPG, I just can't seem get this one through.

Woohoo! Empty pocket here I come!

[Vikitehwaffu]

Try looking at all the James Bond Girls if you are convince that this aspect is only present in Japanese Storytelling Media.

and.....

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/04/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-heading-west-in-2009/

Nothing too surprising here. What I do hope is that they will keep the Japanese audio tracks intact.

Never said that Japan was the only one that does it. I still dislike it no matter what country does it.

[MakubeX2]

Initial report has it that Sega took out the intro song and had the players jump straight to the title menu for the English release. From the looks of things, things will be the same for the end title since both the Intro and ED are the same song.

What I'm really anticipating here is to see will Rosie sing for the English release (Her Seiyuu's Klan Klan in Macross F). So, err, some English Player's report please ?

[Firefly00]

Initial report has it that Sega took out the intro song and had the players jump straight to the title menu for the English release.
That seems a silly decision, but does not detract from the game proper. Sega has, it seems, delivered; with extra credit for giving player the choice of language tracks and their stated intention (official blog entry (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/11/04/segas-valkyria-chronicles-shipping-out-today-dlc-on-the-way/)) of bringing both DLC packs over early next year.
The soundtrack is good too; I made sure to purchase a copy thereof.

[MakubeX2]

That seems a silly decision, but does not detract from the game proper.

It's a logical decision actually, since the song was a commercial release by an artist under Sony. Sega just want to avoid paying royalties to her since the game was an initial flop in Japan , and give it's style and presentation, they must have been unsure of the game's success overseas.

Sega has, it seems, delivered; with extra credit for giving player the choice of language tracks and their stated intention (official blog entry (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/11/04/segas-valkyria-chronicles-shipping-out-today-dlc-on-the-way/)) of bringing both DLC packs over early next year.

That announcement about the DLC.....I've posted that in one of my earlier post, actually. About the inclusion of Japanese Audio Track, Sega know their audience as well as their projected release date well enough. How are they going to survive aganist Goalith such as Fallout 3, Resistance 2 and LBP if they are going to take out the Japanese audios in favor for a full english release ?

They deserve additional credits only if they keep the Japanese Audio intact on top of the English dubs for both the stateside DLCs.

The soundtrack is good too; I made sure to purchase a copy thereof.

It's by Hitoshi Sakimoto, famous for his works in FF Tactics and FF XII, so that's expected. I've not heard about the Soundtrack being release on iTunes yets, so you be best importing a hardcopy which includes the aforementioned removed J-pop Track.

[MakubeX2]

Whaddaya know !

The Episode with Selvaria actually has a 4th Mission where you control Selvaria in her Valkyria Mode. 800 Yen was not overprice afterall.

Anyone want a cap of that mission ? Could rip it from Nico and up it to Youtube now.

[Vikitehwaffu]

Initial report has it that Sega took out the intro song and had the players jump straight to the title menu for the English release. From the looks of things, things will be the same for the end title since both the Intro and ED are the same song.

What I'm really anticipating here is to see will Rosie sing for the English release (Her Seiyuu's Klan Klan in Macross F). So, err, some English Player's report please ?

All I got is this short clip and she sings only like two verses at the 47 second mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMXByhwsji4

So in Japan this game didn't do well?

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Whaddaya know !

The Episode with Selvaria actually has a 4th Mission where you control Selvaria in her Valkyria Mode. 800 Yen was not overprice afterall.

Anyone want a cap of that mission ? Could rip it from Nico and up it to Youtube now.

Wow thats sweet. I was under the impression that you couldn't control her in Valkyria Mode.


So in Japan this game didn't do well?

Nope. Apparently they didn't advertise it well so that probably contributed to it.

[MakubeX2]

Manage to spend sometime ripping Valkyria Selvaria in action from Nico today :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA2jBzy9P3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTSvkPR9gqU

Apparently, you need to score S-Rank for all 3 stages in the DLC to unlock this secret mssion.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

What I'm really anticipating here is to see will Rosie sing for the English release (Her Seiyuu's Klan Klan in Macross F). So, err, some English Player's report please ?

Here is I think the entire song.

Warning there is huge spoilers in this video though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sayT6O_urQ


On another note is it just me or does the Valkyria in the english OP animation near the end where it shows a close up of her face, it looks like Alicia?

To see what I mean refer to this video at around 1:54 into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx8Mc8xZFC0

[MakubeX2]

To see what I mean refer to this video at around 1:54 into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx8Mc8xZFC0

Though I have played the Japanese release, I shall not spoil things here by saying it's obvious that she is who you think she is.

And it's good to see this game has the highest rating amongst all the current-gen JRPGs on Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/valkyriachronicles), when compare with some other high profile titles in the same genre such as Blue Dragon (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/bluedragon), Lost Odyssey (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/lostodyssey), Eternal Sonata (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/eternalsonata), Tales Of Vesperia (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/talesofvesperia) and Disgaea 3 (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/disgaea3absenceofjustice)

Granted there are less than 30 reviews for VC due to low exposure, but still.....

[Westlo]

Put in about 4 hours into this game and I'm up to Episode 6, love it. Sega need to base the next Shining Force SRPG on this Canvas engine.

[MakubeX2]

http://miku.sega.jp/images/miku_alicia.jpg

You know, thinking about it, the PS3 Fanboys should take this game up aganist Gear Of War 2 instead of the overhyped Resistance 2. At least, they will not be such a laughing stock for the 360 fanboys.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Resistance 2 and Gears of War 2 are both just sub-par games in my opinion. I haven't greatly enjoyed any recent FPS games besides the Half Life series.

[klee123]

http://www.valkyria-anime.com/


Heh.

[IchiKyo]

cheers
http://kyohime57.free.fr/Game/val.jpg

[ZODDGUTS]

This what game got is getting an anime. :)

Official site
http://www.valkyria-anime.com/

Since it's being animated by A-1 so chances are I'll have good animation, they've done Birdy the mighty, Kuroshitsuji, Kannagi. :)

Edit: Bah looks like I've been beated to this post about getting an anime. lol

[Solecs]

I just beat the game the other day, and I have to say it was pretty awesome. I'm excited for the anime. I need to vent a little though:

Isara dies?!?!?!?!?! no! damnit. She didn't deserve that. :sad:

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Alright there is going to be an anime. Just the other day I was thinking about how this should be turned into an anime.

[MakubeX2]

This what game got is getting an anime. :)

Wow, hold it there. Sounds like you're either dissing the game or you do not know what the game is all about.


Isara dies?!?!?!?!?! no! damnit. She didn't deserve that. :sad:

It will not be realistic for a war drama if they don't show some sort of sacrifiece.

[kaisama]

save for the fact this game is unrealistic to begin with, and lol at medic.

[Solecs]

Fair enough that sacrifice is needed, but still, it wasn't deserved :upset:.

In anycase, I've been replaying the game with my clear data (by the way this makes the first half of the game or so really, really easy) and I got to thinking. If they did the anime with the canvas engine, it would probably turn out relatively ok. They'd need to throw in some anti-aliasing, but otherwise I think it would look pretty good. Not great by any means, but passable at least. That's saying something about how good this game looks :).

[MakubeX2]

Fair enough that sacrifice is needed, but still, it wasn't deserved :upset:.

Like how Platoon puts it, "The first casualty of war is innocence".

It's had always the rule of thumb in War Drama that the most Innocent Character will be amongst the first to be dead. But it works.

If they did the anime with the canvas engine, it would probably turn out relatively ok.

Low chance of that, it will be too costly to produce for an entire season. Movie, OVA, maybe. But definitely not an entire season.

[Firefly00]

Earlier this evening, I was wondering how one could best cover the larger war of which the 'Gallian Front' is a part in a game. After some thought, I came to the conclusion that the Endwar mechanics are an almost-perfect fit, especially given the RPG-lite elements made possible with persistent units (inherited, it seems, from the old Ground Control games)...

[kujoe]

I'm still starting but the game is shaping up wonderfully.

First of all, I don't know if it's just me, but it so reminds me of Skies of Arcadia. Not in terms of actual story or gameplay mechanics, but rather the whole design of it is just reminiscent of that game, from the menus, recruitable characters to the way they look. I wonder if the character designer is the same, or if the team behind Skies of Arcadia also worked on this one. Heck, Vyse and Aika are in it! (Still haven't found Aika though.) God damnit Sega, where's my Skies of Arcadia 2!?

With regard to the dub versus original comparison, so far the dub isn't bad at all. I'm actually liking it. In fact, I'm mainly using the dub since the translation is sometimes different from what's actually being said in Japanese. The overall context or meaning is the same, but Sega chose not to translate everything literally and mainly made sure to fit the dialog in English first. My Japanese isn't perfect, but I can understand a good deal of it sometimes, so such a gap between what's being said and what's written onscreen can be bit of a bother.

[Solecs]

Yeah, it's the same team that made Skies of Arcadia. They were formerly Overworks, but changed to being called Sega Wow after merging with another group I think. So it's not surprising that there is a similar feel to it.

As far as the dub goes, it was pretty good in my opinion as well. I played through the first time with the dub, and now I'm seeing how it is with the original japanese. One minor caveat I have with the original japanese is that I don't know what they're saying with the potentials, but I guess that's not a big deal.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r15/CDwaver/famitsuscansapril1913.jpg

[kujoe]

Yeah, it's the same team that made Skies of Arcadia. They were formerly Overworks, but changed to being called Sega Wow after merging with another group I think. So it's not surprising that there is a similar feel to it.

As far as the dub goes, it was pretty good in my opinion as well. I played through the first time with the dub, and now I'm seeing how it is with the original japanese. One minor caveat I have with the original japanese is that I don't know what they're saying with the potentials, but I guess that's not a big deal.
If there's one thing I'm not liking, it's the sound effects. For a story centered on war, the "booms" and "bangs" aren't done well.

[kaisama]

And for a story about war, it's not that good either....may be shouldn't watch a bunch of old war movies before playing this :/

[Kroni]

I consider the story to be fairly typical JRPG stuff with a bit of a military twist.

I'm unfortunately nitpicky so I always find problems, but if there's one thing I wish this game did it would be to give the side characters screentime, since I believe they're far more interesting than the main characters.I think Edie getting her own levels is a step in the right direction.

And am I the only person who would like to see more games with this engine? I think a mech game similair to Front Mission using this engine would OWN.

[Firefly00]

Folks who like the music might find this blog entry (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=1122) to be of interest.

[TrueKnight]

I'm putting 3-4 hours so far up to chapter 5 on and am loving it. Ok story and awesome characters. So far I like Welkin and his bug-addict lol and the rest of the support characters are surprisingly good. The battle system takes time to get used to but its fun seeing Edelweiss raping enemy soldiers with mortars and tanks with shells. The graphics are superb and reminds me of Level-5 games, but better. The highlight of course for me its the music scores. It's simply beautiful. Who's composing them? It reminds me of Motoi Sakuraba for some reason.

Anyway I agree about the story being cheesy. After playing COD : World at War and Fallout 3 for a while and then playing this only to find a girl with a short skirt, leading a platoon, and baked bakeries in pseudo-Europe with WW II background just feels so out of place lol.

Now my biggest problems are to juggle this and Fallout 3, which I already had for 2 weeks and spent nearly 40 hours, enjoying it immensely. But this game is also very good. Maybe I'll take a break from Fallout and play this game for 10 hours or so before coming back.

Fair enough that sacrifice is needed, but still, it wasn't deserved .

It's had always the rule of thumb in War Drama that the most Innocent Character will be amongst the first to be dead. But it works.

....I've been avoiding Gamespot/FAQ and any other forums alike for their trigger happy spoilers..but damn. T_T
From this somehow I just knew who's going to carry that deathflag. Eventhough I'm not there yet.

[MakubeX2]

The highlight of course for me its the music scores. It's simply beautiful. Who's composing them? It reminds me of Motoi Sakuraba for some reason.

It's by Hitoshi Sakimoto, famous for his works in FF Tactics and FF XII, so that's expected. I've not heard about the Soundtrack being release on iTunes yets, so you be best importing a hardcopy which includes the aforementioned removed J-pop Track.

Folks who like the music might find this blog entry (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=1122) to be of interest.

Anyway I agree about the story being cheesy. After playing COD : World at War and Fallout 3 for a while and then playing this only to find a girl with a short skirt, leading a platoon, and baked bakeries in pseudo-Europe with WW II background just feels so out of place lol.

Maybe you're just jaded. Sure there are a lot of clinch, but there are excellent points in the story.

I'll like to make mention about the hatred aganist Darcsens in the game that's obviously based on racism aganist Jews in real life. We are even given stages that features the snagonist prisoning the Darcsens in concerntartation camps and using them as force labours. It was also mentioned later that some of the Darcsens are being hunted down and killed like wild games.

Now I ask you, did any of the past WWII game you played featured the Holocaust or had a stage set in a Jewish concerntation camp ?

[TrueKnight]

I'm not that far yet in the game. Only up until Largo and Rosie are bitching about Isara's lineage, but....

Now I ask you, did any of the past WWII game you played featured the Holocaust or had a stage set in a Jewish concerntation camp ?

There are few resemblance in the Company of Heroes (PC and RTS game, great game) so yes, I have. But seriously CoH are based on actual WWII Holocaust event.

While what your comparing are a pseduo setting with only a resemblance. There are many referrence of the Holocaust in other games. If that's the case then I've seen plenty. Let's see... Fallout 3 with the racism againts the Ghouls, Legendia with the Merines, Mass Effect with the Spacenoid thing, Xenosaga against the android and so on.

[MakubeX2]

There are few resemblance in the Company of Heroes (PC and RTS game, great game) so yes, I have. But seriously CoH are based on actual WWII Holocaust event.

In Holocaust, as in the Jewish Holocaust and other things associated with it. I've played CoH and it's expansion, but I didn't recall any mention those.

While what your comparing are a pseduo setting with only a resemblance. There are many referrence of the Holocaust in other games. If that's the case then I've seen plenty. Let's see... Fallout 3 with the racism againts the Ghouls, Legendia with the Merines, Mass Effect with the Spacenoid thing, Xenosaga against the android and so on.

Yes. But those are set aganist fictional races (which are mostly sub or non-human, BTW) that has no obvious roots in reality.

Some more examples for the Darcsen being based on Jews includs how the Jews was blamed for the economical problems in Germany and the Darcsen was blamed for their ancestors' deeds. Both the Jews and Darcsen choose not to fight back and accepted their fates.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

I'll like to make mention about the hatred aganist Darcsens in the game that's obviously based on racism aganist Jews in real life. We are even given stages that features the snagonist prisoning the Darcsens in concerntartation camps and using them as force labours. It was also mentioned later that some of the Darcsens are being hunted down and killed like wild games.

Now I ask you, did any of the past WWII game you played featured the Holocaust or had a stage set in a Jewish concerntation camp ?

I noticed that as well and I find it very interesting how the world is so fictional, but draws so many accurate parallels to WWII events that are not brought to the fore-front in many other WWII games. The plot is a lot more complex than it seems. It tackles political intrigue, ethnic discrimination, and mild themes of the occult, and offers plenty of meditations on the personal impact of war.

Reading the glossary in the game is really interesting and actually greatly adds to the overall story.

[ShinGundam]

GT’s Review = 9.1
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43161.html

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Its been getting mostly positive reviews from what I've seen. Its defenitely one of the sleeper hits of the PS3 this year.

[kujoe]

I find it pleasantly surprising that an underrated game like this is getting better reviews than the more anticipated RPGs like Last Remnant. You come out with something polished as this (minus the ragdoll physics and lackluster sound effects), with some refreshing charm, the people will come... Then again, maybe not. Sega and Sony have to advertise this more. Definitely the sleeper hit of the year for me, or the RPG of the year for that matter.

This game has made others go out and proclaim the return of Sega (never mind that it's a new team made up of SoA folks), and with an anime down the line I hope this means that there's a bright future for a possible game series.

[HurricaneHige]

Most underrated game of the year, by far.

I think the sound effects fits the anime-ish water-colouring style well tbh, makes it more like a book (which is what it is trying to do, and much better than Folklore tried to do).

The ragdoll physics is the only thing that bugs me in this game.

[Kagedanji]

Anyone have any favorite non-main character units?

Marina
Wendy "Hee hee, kaboom."

[Kroni]

Jane rocks, she's a female Shinji Nishizono.
I like Elysse too, and the lesbian mechanic.

I prefer the side characters over the main cast.

[kujoe]

Aika and Vyse.

Bang, bang baby!

...and Marina the sniper.

I also wish the Captain was playable. Actually, there are a lot of characters who say a lot of interesting or funny things in the game.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

THis game has a great set of side characters and I really like the great amount of them.

My personal favorites are Marina, Freesia, Jane, and Hannes.

[Kagedanji]

Lesbian mechanic would be Dallas.

They should've given these guys bigger roles, or better yet, allowed you to make a selection of them to have as main characters during a mission or entire playthrough. Good character design is put to so much waste in these 100+ character games, except for maybe Suikoden.

[Shadow Kira01]

The antagonists are more awesome..

Maximillian: Once again, Fukuyama Jun (Lelouch Lamperouge - Code Geass) voices a character that is both intelligent and charismatic.
Selvaria Bles: She possesses the blood of the legendary Valkyria and possesses supernatural abilities. She is voiced by Ohara Sayaka (Milly Ashford - Code Geass).

As for the main cast, Galian's Principality looks pretty good with Squad 7. Too bad there wasn't a psp version. On the contrary, luckily.. There is an anime version. (^_^)

[HurricaneHige]

Jane, Marina, Feesia

[Shiori-chan]

got the game recently and yey @ japanese voices, seeing the seiyu of lelouch doing the voices in a game makes me go ~wooo. Just cleared chapter 7 and must say, it keeps getting more fun each fight you play ^^ story also starts revealing itself
my fav character next to the mains is elysse and that scout with the blonde hair which always says beautiful girls (forgot her name :x)

[Rias]

Finally beat it...definitely well worth my money, the story was well done and the characters (even the minor ones) are quite interesting.

Only thing that I have an issue on is that...it seems the translator(s) for the English version went a bit over the top. Often the english text would contain stuff that's not even said in the Japanese dialogue, sometimes derogatory terms were used instead (for example, Maximillian calls the Squad 7 "militia" in Japanese, but english text becomes "peasants"). It's not a big deal but I just find it a bit weird.

[Marty87]

just beaten the game, i'm going to use only one word to describe from now on, "Masterpiece"

no other game gave me feelings like this one..

too shame that belongs on a niche's genre, but i can say for sure that is my favorite game

[kujoe]

Ah sad news... Apparently, Valkyria Chronicles sold even poorly than expected.

SRPGs of the Japanese variety tend to be a niche, but this is just sad. Just 33,000 copies for November? I sure hope that it'll only go up from there. It shouldn't have gone head to head with the holiday's big hitters in my opinion.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/valkyria-largely-ignored-us-gamers

[MakubeX2]

Ah sad news... Apparently, Valkyria Chronicles sold even poorly than expected.

SRPGs of the Japanese variety tend to be a niche, but this is just sad. Just 33,000 copies for November? I sure hope that it'll only go up from there. It shouldn't have gone head to head with the holiday's big hitters in my opinion.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/valkyria-largely-ignored-us-gamers

The game will be a long time seller from word-of-mouth publicity once people starts picking PS3 hardware for the likes of God Of War III and Uncharted 2, based on how the sales in Japan fare. And it will be even more well recieved early next year if the anime turns out to be good.

[kujoe]

The game will be a long time seller from word-of-mouth publicity once people starts picking PS3 hardware for the likes of God Of War III and Uncharted 2, based on how the sales in Japan fare. And it will be even more well recieved early next year if the anime turns out to be good.
I think the issue is more than that. It's not just about it being released for one console either. If this trend continues then I doubt even going multiplatform would improve its profitability. Sega just might even lose more money in porting it. (Hmmm, maybe a Wii release in Japan would do wonders.)

This generation of gaming is arguably a Western one, where shooters such as CoD, Halo, Gears and Resistance have become the standards of today worldwide. It's even more difficult for a tactical Japanese game, turn-based no less, to attract the attention of gamers in this gen. :(

What is its situation in Japan right now by the way?

[MakubeX2]

What is its situation in Japan right now by the way?

Some 40,000 copies sold on it's launch day and it goes on to sell around 200,000 the last I heard about 1-2 months back.

[yongshun]

got this game for a while now but just started to really get into it, cameos of Vyse and Aika was funny, but I wonder what happened to Fina? is she in this game too? and I cant believe that this is from Sega with all the crap they have been churning out this was a pleasent surprise.

[kamikazex]

played the demo...it was awesome just bought it today looking forward to playing it later tonight

[kujoe]

got this game for a while now but just started to really get into it, cameos of Vyse and Aika was funny, but I wonder what happened to Fina? is she in this game too? and I cant believe that this is from Sega with all the crap they have been churning out this was a pleasent surprise.
She's not with Vyse and Aika, but she's the medic of Squad 7. Her name isn't not given, but that's her alright.

In my opinion SEGA should hype this more than, let's say, Sonic which has been crap for a long time now.

[yongshun]

She's not with Vyse and Aika, but she's the medic of Squad 7. Her name isn't not given, but that's her alright.

In my opinion SEGA should hype this more than, let's say, Sonic which has been crap for a long time now.

Ahhhh damn didn't even know that, wasn't paying attention enough I guess lol. Although I wish there was a Skys of Arcadia 2 this is just as good. I need to find a good statagy for chapter 5 the damn Lt. at the base is killing all of my people.

[HurricaneHige]

She's not with Vyse and Aika, but she's the medic of Squad 7. Her name isn't not given, but that's her alright.

In my opinion SEGA should hype this more than, let's say, Sonic which has been crap for a long time now.

Her name is given in the personnel profile =p

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Well its good to know that some mainstream notice is being given to Valkyria Chronicles. G4's X-Play put Valkyria Chronicles on its best games for PS3 list and games to to get for your PS3 this holiday season. This will defenitely help in some respect at getting attention.

[kamikazex]

it's been two days and im on mission 12. this game is officially my #1 favorite game of all time

[Keroko]

Has anyone ever noticed how loaded this game is with Dutch references? I mean, after a few hours of playing at a friends, I can remember from the top of my head the map in the intro, littered with Dutch places, the Dutch landscape, windmills included, and even Alicia's head decoration is reminicent of the old Dutch clothing.

Quite amusing, really.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

All the towns not only look Dutch, but have Dutch names.

[yongshun]

finally beat the game and I really really like it the only let down was the quick and easy final boss fight I dont see how anyone could not get an A rank for that one.

[Sides]

All the towns not only look Dutch, but have Dutch names.

Nah, some of those are actually german names, like Bruhl (Brühl, yeah Phantasialand ^^). If anything the fictional location in the game is a mixture of most mainland european countries.
Cannot wait for the DLC next month, i hope.

[Keroko]

There certainly isn't a fixed identifiable country. On the map the shape only vaguely resembles the Eastern European countries. But the high amount of Dutch place names, especially considering how small a country the Netherlands is, and the countryside brings a smile to my face.

[ZeroForever]

fun game beat in a few weeks ago, the games nations are clearly based on european nations in the WW1/2 era. Though i've been wondering how the valkyrie nations disappeared/fell apart in the past as after a crap load of scenes showing how much they rape everything it's just like... huh? why did there nation disappear?

kinda meh about the DLC as after a certain point the game isn't really that hard anymore and the extras become a moot point, other then random AI movements to one shot the einhaiser most of the fights it's easy to abuse the AI generic and sometimes retarded movements.

As pretty much most of the hard fights are hard simply due to the overwhelming numbers/power of the oppnent which don't mean anything when they can't utilize it.
The last guy i can imagine would be hard if you had no clue what to do, the problem is if you know exactly what to do it's wayyyy to easy just to 1 shot him with the teammate crossfire and command boosts.

[Sides]

kinda meh about the DLC as after a certain point the game isn't really that hard anymore and the extras become a moot point, other then random AI movements to one shot the einhaiser most of the fights it's easy to abuse the AI generic and sometimes retarded movements.

As pretty much most of the hard fights are hard simply due to the overwhelming numbers/power of the oppnent which don't mean anything when they can't utilize it.
The last guy i can imagine would be hard if you had no clue what to do, the problem is if you know exactly what to do it's wayyyy to easy just to 1 shot him with the teammate crossfire and command boosts.

Really? I thought the Hard EX mode looks challenging and playing Selvaria and her squad sounds fun, and of course Edy's Squad.

Hard EX PV from the jpn version http://youtube.com/watch?v=ds8Y5jCMufs
Edy DLC PV http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5auaH79pjwo
Selvaria DLC PV http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PMfIrWg8M28

[Father Hentai]

There certainly isn't a fixed identifiable country. On the map the shape only vaguely resembles the Eastern European countries. But the high amount of Dutch place names, especially considering how small a country the Netherlands is, and the countryside brings a smile to my face.

Sorry to disappoint you but the most names are German. :) The problems are the vocals which the German alphabet has but other countries don't have e.g. ü which is written with ue or only u in the game.

The game setup reminds me a bit of Asterix and Obelix, a famous Comic in Europe. The big Roman Empire with Cesar against a small Gallian village which he could not conquer.

Btw. the color scheme of the Empirian uniform is the color of the German troops during the Napoleonic War of Liberation:
Black Uniform, Golden Button and bottom part of the sleeves in red. See Uniform of Berthold.

[Keroko]

Sorry to disappoint you but the most names are German. :) The problems are the vocals which the German alphabet has but other countries don't have e.g. ü which is written with ue or only u in the game.

Really? German? And yet, being Dutch I'm pretty sure I recognize places like Texel, Westerschelde, Hengelo, Sneek and Delfzijl among many others as places found on the Dutch borders in our world. ;)

Now don't get me wrong, by no means am I saying this game takes place in the Netherlands. For one, there's the fact that the country only vaguely resembles any of our countries. The names are also all over the place, and then there's the fact that it's named Galia, a blatant French reference if there ever was one. It's a fictional world, there is no way it should be any one country. I'm just saying that I enjoy the Dutch references. The names of the places, the countryside, and even the clothing (Speaking of uniforms, the Dutch also wore blue uniforms during that era, just like the federation. :D) is reminiscent of the Netherlands during the first world war. Not to mention that historically, the Netherlands also kept a neutral stance during the first world war.

The Netherlands rarely get mentioned in things like this, the only anime that use Dutch references are feudal era ones (Strike Witches took place in England, Germany and France played big roles in it, and despite that a lot of the Neuroi attacks would have come from the Netherlands, it never got mentioned T_T) and games never mention them at all, so you can't blame me for enjoying a game filled to the brink with them. :p

[Father Hentai]

Haven' t played through the complete game yet but you may be correct in some scenes. Still the anta- and protagonists are mostly German, English, Frensh or even Spanish (Cordelia). Still I recognized a little bit of the Dutch when I saw a Windmill :D. Just a small joke between Germans and Dutch. No personal offense now. :)

Regarding the uniform. The Netherlands were part of the French Realm and explains the Tricolore. :P

[Keroko]

Haven' t played through the complete game yet but you may be correct in some scenes. Still the anta- and protagonists are mostly German, English, Frensh or even Spanish (Cordelia). Still I recognized a little bit of the Dutch when I saw a Windmill :D. Just a small joke between Germans and Dutch. No personal offense now. :)

None taken, windmills are a Dutch symbol after all. I take pride in them. :D

Regarding the uniform. The Netherlands were part of the French Realm and explains the Tricolore. :P

Not really, the Netherlands became a kingdom in 1815, and many changes to uniforms were introduced in the years to come. With the rise of William the 2nd for example, the grey parts of the uniform were replaced with blue ones. The tri-colors need not necessarily be French, as Netherlands have a red-white-blue flag as well. :p But considering the country is named 'Galia' they could very well have used the French occupation as reference. Nice find!

Also, I just realized another reference, though this one may not be intentional. During the second World War, the Dutch once again tried to keep their neutral position as in the first war, however this time Germany invaded nonetheless. The Germans expected to steamroll through the country within a day, not seeing much resistance possible. However, five days later they still hadn't captured the country, as the Dutch threw more and more resistance their way with each day. Only the city-devastating bombardments forced the country to surrender.

Despite the fact that we lost in the end, doesn't this sound similar?

[Father Hentai]

No, the last part doesn' t really sound similar. Or at least I find it fitting to to the game.

[Sides]

Not really, the Netherlands became a kingdom in 1815, and many changes to uniforms were introduced in the years to come. With the rise of William the 2nd for example, the grey parts of the uniform were replaced with blue ones. The tri-colors need not necessarily be French, as Netherlands have a red-white-blue flag as well. :p But considering the country is named 'Galia' they could very well have used the French occupation as reference. Nice find!


During the roman times the area where holland, belguim, luxemburg and parts of the rhineland (north west part of germany) lies today were known as Gallia Belgica. You really need to get back in time, where todays nations didn't exists. And as a matter of fact bruehl (one of them at least) lies in rhineland, i think the No.18 Strassenbahn from cologne takes you there.

[Girsej]

"A budget re-release of Sega's Valkyria Chronicles will go on sale in Japan in early March. The new release of last year's popular PlayStation 3 title will include the Edie Nelson mission, which is currently only available for download (in Japan). The PlayStation 3 the Best re-release of Valkyria Chronicles will be available in Japan on March 5th for 3,990 yen ($43.78 USD)." Rpgfan (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2009/4.html)

That should be right about the time for the anime to start airing right? Hope it will sell a bit more with the extra push.

[JagdPanther]

Just finished the game and I am so incredibly happy. This was such a great game. Easily one of the best I've ever played.

The ending was really, really nice. I wish there was an easier way to see the what-now profiles of the main characters instead of watching the credits over and an easier way to see the final cutscene, which was incredibly cute.

I think I'm going to take a few days break before attempting to move through the story again and doing all the skirmishes on Hard. I'm pissed, though. My available squad members to restart the game don't include Freesia, my favorite scout, or Marina, the best sniper. At least I've got Nina, Jane, Dallas, Catherine, Lynn, and Audrey. That's a pretty decent small squad already.

I'll just have to burn through until I regain Freesia and Marina...

Man, such a fantastic game. Can't wait for the anime.

[Girsej]

After finally finishing the game, all I can say is that it was the best game of 08. It was so awesome that I feel kinda empty now that I've finished it :/

Anyway, for those who haven't played/bought it, do so ASAP! ^^

[fallschirmjager]

I hadn't cried playing a game since Takeshi's bad endings from Ever17.

Such a great game.

It's like a lobster knife fight. Words cannot express the awesome.

[Keroko]

Do we have an ETA on the DLC yet? It was said to come out 'early' this year, which is a tad vague.

[ShinGundam]

^
^
“Soon we’ll be announcing a date for the first batch of Valkyria Chronicles downloadable content…”
Source (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/01/14/valkyria-chronicles-cosplay-prizes-at-nycc/)

Sack Selveria
http://www.littlebigplanetoid.com/images/uploads/valkyria_chronicles_sml.jpg

Fake and Cute XD

[fallschirmjager]

If the breasts don't bounce around like jelly it couldn't be called Selvaria...

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Is that a sack for Little Big Planet?

[fallschirmjager]

Is that a sack for Little Big Planet?

It's not real.

[videoman190]

Accoding to the sega blog the three DLC are getting a NA release http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/01/14/valkyria-chronicles-cosplay-prizes-at-nycc/ the date is TBA for now!

[JagdPanther]

Man, I wish I could get a limited edition art book...

And for those interested, RPGamer.com named Valkyria Chronicles:


Best RPG for PS3 - 1st Place
Best Battlesystem - 2nd Place
Most Original - 3rd Place
Best Graphics - 1st Place
Most Overlooked - 1st Place

and... drumroll, please......

RPG of the Year - 1st Place

RPGamer.com 2008 Awards Complete Listing (http://www.rpgamer.com/awards/2008/index.html)

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Glad it continues to get praise. Hopefully it helps expose even more gamers to this wonderful game.

[FlareKnight]

Glad I managed to grab a copy of this sine I had been looking forward to it. Though probably missed the discussion boat :heh:.

Haven't quite finished it yet, but definitely an amazing game to this point. Feeling a bit off after a major story death. But doesn't change that I've enjoyed getting into this one (and saying goodbye to hours of my life :heh:).

[spawnofthejudge]

It's been mentioned in the anime thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2277276#post2277276), but it goes better here (Oops):

The downloadable content for the US has been officially announced (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/03/16/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-announced-and-twitter-hints-explained/)... but it's very much a tease. It tells us what we're going to get, but not when we're going to get it. :(

[Shiroth]

It tells us what we're going to get, but not when we're going to get it. :(
Yeah. I at least hope it's sometime in 2009. Would be quite funky if they were released the week the anime begins to air.

[Clarste]

I kind of wonder how this anime is going to handle battle scenes. In the game, thanks to the magical mechanic of hit points, there can be a certain level of tension in battle even if everyone survives. The anime however, seems reluctant to show people getting shot, even faceless generic enemy soldiers. So far anyway. So, uh, how can they do a war anime without showing violence?

Also, there's quite a bit of mood dissonance. How can people cheerfully make jokes immediately after throwing a grenade and (presumably) killing three people? Not to mention the fact that they're still in mortal danger, and their hometown is under attack (everyone they know and love is at risk, blah blah blah). Maybe experienced soldiers would, but civilians? And Alicia probably doesn't have much real war experience either.

I understand that the game wasn't exactly a gritty war drama, but it took itself seriously in a way that doesn't seem to have happened yet in the anime. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

[Guppy]

Also, there's quite a bit of mood dissonance. How can people cheerfully make jokes immediately after throwing a grenade and (presumably) killing three people?To be fair, Alicia wasn't in a position to witness first-hand the results of her grenade toss, and they were all covering their ears when it went off.

I agree that the game came off as more serious than the anime, but I suspect it's just the result of the anime trying to rush through the plot while still giving airtime to the banter and interplay between the characters. If they have to cut some of the off-duty interactions due to time constraints, some of that dialogue (like Alicia talking about her bread) is probably going to end up in the battle scenes instead.

One of my favourite aspects of the game was that it spent time exploring the characters as people, rather than having everything on and off the battlefield revolve around war and fighting, and I hope the anime continues that trend.

[Manji Midou]

what are the chances they...

game related spoiler thingy... kill off a few members of platoon 7 aside from "ls" ( as long as jane lives, l'm fine if they decide to off some characters) l would also like to see vyse,fina and aika soon...

[Guppy]

You might want to mark that one as a game spoiler, Manji; someone might think it's only an episode 1 spoiler and open it accidentally.

I have a feeling they probably won't do it in the end - too much risk of offending this or that segment of the fanbase, for too little additional gain plotwise. If we see any anime-original characters pop up, though, they're definitely fair game.

[Clarste]

One of my favourite aspects of the game was that it spent time exploring the characters as people, rather than having everything on and off the battlefield revolve around war and fighting, and I hope the anime continues that trend.

I agree, but it's still weird to have that bleed over into battlefield scenes. In a way, having them not respond to danger in any way takes away from their humanity, and makes it harder to empathize with them. There needs to be two sides to this. All war and battle is bad, but so's all light-hearted banter. The duality provides depth.

I have a feeling they probably won't do it in the end - too much risk of offending this or that segment of the fanbase, for too little additional gain plotwise. If we see any anime-original characters pop up, though, they're definitely fair game.

I disagree. The not-quite-generic soldiers are the perfect candidates for "anyone can die" war-drama stuff, which the game clearly intended to at least nod in the direction of. Maybe just the older ones though.

[Chrono Helix]

so...let me get this straight..
unlike in the game alicia doesn't know lsara, even though they live in the same town?
they changed the 2 grown men into childen children instead? lulz?


I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this. If they were grown men, you'd expect one of them to be the leader of the town watch instead of Alicia, who's only 19 years old. I think it makes more sense for her to be leading a bunch of kids.

[kujoe]

what are the chances they...
<snip> l would also like to see vyse,fina and aika soon...
Well, we all want to see our favorite characters. Vyse and Aika are inseparable. There's Marina, and I also want Juno to appear in the anime. Fina is the only medic (or maybe at least the main one), so she has to be there as well. Then again, depending on how the anime will handle the battle side of things, there's also a chance that she might not appear at all.

We have already seen a supporting militia member in episode 1, and I'm guessing the ED is our biggest clue on which characters will be appearing later on. I'm glad that Jann is in the ED.

And yeah... that is a very big spoiler.

[Guppy]

I agree, but it's still weird to have that bleed over into battlefield scenes. In a way, having them not respond to danger in any way takes away from their humanity, and makes it harder to empathize with them. There needs to be two sides to this. All war and battle is bad, but so's all light-hearted banter. The duality provides depth.I take your point, but what bothers me more about them not responding to the danger......is that there really isn't any particular danger, because the Imperials are just randomly firing away at the house. The scout team ought to be either throwing their own grenades through the windows and setting up to storm the house properly, or else standing off and waiting for a serious assault team or for tanks or artillery to just level the place.

Forming a bunched-up firing line and shooting blindly through the window - but somehow failing to do it well enough to prevent Alicia from standing up and throwing the grenade back out through that selfsame window - is a display of such incompetence that I find it difficult to worry too much about the reactions of Our Heroes.I disagree. The not-quite-generic soldiers are the perfect candidates for "anyone can die" war-drama stuff, which the game clearly intended to at least nod in the direction of.They could do it without destroying the spirit of the game, true... but that's not really the issue. What I mean is that I think killing off the minor characters is risking DVD sales; I suspect a good chunk of viewers and DVD buyers will have played the game, bonded with their own "favourite" team that got them through it, kept them alive and seen their happy ending in the postscript. A game player who sees their own preferred characters get killed off is more likely to be unhappy with the anime and not buy the DVDs, which I'm not sure they'll want to take a chance on.

Fina is the only medic (or maybe at least the main one), so she has to be there as well. Then again, depending on how the anime will handle the battle side of things, there's also a chance that she might not appear at all.She's in at least one game cutscene, so unless they change that (and I don't see a reason to cut her out) she'll show up later.

I'm glad that Jann is in the ED.Jann but no Dallas. Wonder if that's a statement on the expected ratio of yaoi-to-yuri viewers. ;)

[Clarste]

They could do it without destroying the spirit of the game, true... but that's not really the issue. What I mean is that I think killing off the minor characters is risking DVD sales; I suspect a good chunk of viewers and DVD buyers will have played the game, bonded with their own "favourite" team that got them through it, kept them alive and seen their happy ending in the postscript. A game player who sees their own preferred characters get killed off is more likely to be unhappy with the anime and not buy the DVDs, which I'm not sure they'll want to take a chance on.

So capitalism might be writing the plot? That's kind of sad.

[qmeister]

So capitalism might be writing the plot? That's kind of sad.
Anime is a business, whether we like it or not. Just that the business also happens to provide much needed entertainment.

[kaosmos]

just watched the first eps, love the fact that they kept the game soundtrack for the anime.

i also love how they included one of the side char (susie i think?..),i didn't especially liked that girl in the game so i didn't bother to check her profile,i didn't knew she was part of the militia.

but...:

alicia didn't seem so aggressive against darksen(sp?) people in the game,there she sounded like another darksen hater,at least that how she sounded to me..

[trakker]

I think she was just genrally suspicious, due to the fact she kinda still thought Welkin was a spy, and Isara not only knew him, (working together)but almost cut hear head in half lol

[Willen]

I'm wondering if they'll show all of the confirmed Bruhl natives of Squad 7 in the early part of the anime.

So far we have (obviously) Welkin, Alicia, and Isara. And now Susie, although her game profile doesn't mention where she's from other than being 'the daughter of a frontier tycoon'.

Jane
Musaad
Noce

This doesn't preclude other people like Susie being also from Bruhl in the anime. But it is interesting that they chose her to be in the first episode.

[spawnofthejudge]

I didn't really mind the differences too much. It's obvious why they're doing it: to get Alicia, Welkin and Isara out of Bruhl quicker. But I will miss Isara nearly managing two Imperials by herself in close quarters.

This doesn't preclude other people like Susie being also from Bruhl in the anime. But it is interesting that they chose her to be in the first episode.Yes, that was a surprise.

Did anyone else notice that the ED hinted heavily at a massive spoiler?

Also: I'm so glad they managed to keep Isara's display of badass in, even if they had to flip it around a bit first.

[kaosmos]

I didn't really mind the differences too much. It's obvious why they're doing it: to get Alicia, Welkin and Isara out of Bruhl quicker. But I will miss Isara nearly managing two Imperials by herself in close quarters.

Yes, that was a surprise.

Did anyone else notice that the ED hinted heavily at a massive spoiler?

Also: I'm so glad they managed to keep Isara's display of badass in, even if they had to flip it around a bit first.

do you mean zaka becoming part of the militia?isara and the doll?or did i miss something?

[spawnofthejudge]

do you mean zaka becoming part of the militia?isara and the doll?or did i miss something?Not what I was referencing.

Perhaps not 'dramatic', but for me, she had always been a little :confused: (and a bit fluffy in the head) in the game, and wasn't nearly as serious or suspicious as she was in the anime. In other words, she just wasn't much of a careful person :D

I suppose its best illustrated by this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZBZshmvFIk&feature=related

- Tak

Really?

WELKIN: "...And you are?"
ALICIA: "The one with the gun."

[Tak]

Really?

WELKIN: "...And you are?"
ALICIA: "The one with the gun."

Referring to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHjhg5ObRo&feature=related

Er, that is absolutely not what she said. She said 'don't move, and slowly raise your hands'. Then Welkin asked who they were, and she actually gave a full introduction of her rank, her squadron and her purpose (finding Imperial spies lurking in the area).

Or, are you joking?

- Tak

[spawnofthejudge]

Referring to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHjhg5ObRo&feature=related

Er, that is not what she said. She actually gave a full introduction of her rank, her squadron and her purpose (finding Imperial spies lurking in the area).

Or, are you joking?

- Tak

I took a direct quote from the English version of the game (since you know, I played that one). She goes on to identify her affiliations and name, sure, but her first statement to him asking her name is reminding him who was in control. I don't think she's exhibiting flighty or "fluffy in the head" instincts here. The reason she comes off of the misunderstanding so quickly is that in the game, she knows Isara. Not to mention her showing up. In the anime, this is apparently not true, or she's so concerned about being shot at and possibly helping a spy that she forgot.

And we're able to see the other side of Alicia with the other Bruhl townspeople in the anime, while in the game we're forced straight into the tutorial battle. We do see her stubbornly refuse to believe Welkin a couple times, though there's not as much time dedicated to it. I really don't think they made her significantly more serious or competent, I just think they showed it more.

[Tak]

I don't think she's exhibiting flighty or "fluffy in the head" instincts here.

Actually, when I said 'fluffy' I was referring to her handling of Welkin's notes.

"Fish, flowers, plants. Wow, you are quite good at drawing."

"No! But these may be a new Imperial spy code!"

Me: :twitch: /facepalm!

- Tak

[spawnofthejudge]

Actually, when I said 'fluffy' I was referring to her handling of Welkin's notes.

"Fish, flowers, plants. Wow, you are quite good at drawing."

"No! But these may be a new Imperial spy code!"

Me: :twitch: /facepalm!

- Tak

That says "Stubborn" to me. Certainly facepalm worthy, I won't disagree there, but still. Being on the border, they probably had a spy scare at some point, or were taught to do such until proven otherwise. There is after all, the off-chance that she's right. That'd be a code that would require very... erm... talented spies though ;). Also, it's all worth it (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny) for her face when Isara breaks the news :).

[Sides]

DLC is coming out next week, 16th April 2009. The DLC are the same that has already been out for the JPN version. The price is £3.19/€3.99/$4.99 for each package, multiply it by 3 to get the sum for all 3 DLCs.

more infosa on Sega europe blog (http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2009/04/08/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-priced-and-dated-for-europe/) and sega USA blog (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/04/08/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-is-coming-next-week/)

[spawnofthejudge]

DLC is coming out next week, 16th April 2009. The DLC are the same that has already been out for the JPN version. The price is £3.19/€3.99/$4.99 for each package, multiply it by 3 to get the sum for all 3 DLCs.

more infosa on Sega europe blog (http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2009/04/08/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-priced-and-dated-for-europe/) and sega USA blog (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2009/04/08/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-is-coming-next-week/):bow:

Those screens are just so teasing. :D

[MrTerrorist]

I was thinking of what game franchise could use the Valkyria Chronicles CANVAS engine and BLiTZ battle system. Then it hit me;
Warhammer 40,000.

Think about it, a popular game franchise with great artwork and warfare strategy would make good use of the CANVAS engine and the BLiTZ battle system.

Imagine seeing your Allies and Enemies in Beautiful artwork and watching them die as they get kill by your/enemy excellent strategies. Now that's a game i would like to see.

[yezhanquan]

Actually, I've been thinking about an alternative campaign where you play as a commander of the Imperial forces, who eventually won the right to be Max's right hand man. From there, you help sort things out between him and Selvaria, and (perhaps sadly) crush Gallia for the glory of the Empire. And yes, you will be on the other side of the battlefield the entire way, engaging Welkin and his team.

Ultimately, your goal is to subdue Gallia before engaging the Atlantic Federation. Should be given a choice of either putting the team in prison, or killing them all. As for Alicia, one "bad" path would be to hold the team hostage, and force her to activate her powers alongside Selvaria, again for the glory of the Empire.

[spawnofthejudge]

From there, you help sort things out between him and Selvaria,:heh: Good luck.

It's a half-decent idea, though I think the part quoted is a bit of wishful thinking.

[yezhanquan]

:heh: Good luck.

It's a half-decent idea, though I think the part quoted is a bit of wishful thinking.

Max: You dare speak to your Prince in this manner?! You're nothing, just like Selvaria!

You (female commander with Yukana's voice, perhaps): That may be so, Sire. But, you cannot deny that the day was won with my help. All I ask is that you treat my troops with respect. Lady Selvaria has been instrumental as well. Or if you desire... (kneeling before Max) Lady Selvaria and I can be of use to your quest to become heir.

Max: How... did you... (cue Lelouch-like stammering)

You: As a commander who've brought you victory, could I afford to neglect my prince's ultimate aims? Gallia is but the surface of your problems.

The best outcome is that Max's temper and behaviour is toned down and channeled by you. From a heartless fellow in the original, you get him to acknowledge that he too can be capable of feelings and emotion. Of course, his whole complex can be handled.

Gallia becomes part of the Imperial domain, but a fully autonomous one, with the Princess as head. That is the price Alicia and Welkin sought for them to join in the Imperial side against the Federation.

Face it: How cool would it be to use BOTH Selvaria and Alicia at the same time?

With the Imperial forces as the final victors, Max duly becomes Emperor. But, he rules justly. Oh, and who shall be his Queen? Of course, Gallia is now first among equals in the domain; Welkin and Alicia having their wedding and kids.

[MrTerrorist]

From there, you help sort things out between him and Selvaria


:heh: Good luck.

It's a half-decent idea, though I think the part quoted is a bit of wishful thinking.

Max: You dare speak to your Prince in this manner?! You're nothing, just like Selvaria!

You (female commander with Yukana's voice, perhaps): That may be so, Sire. But, you cannot deny that the day was won with my help. All I ask is that you treat my troops with respect. Lady Selvaria has been instrumental as well. Or if you desire... (kneeling before Max) Lady Selvaria and I can be of use to your quest to become heir.

Max: How... did you... (cue Lelouch-like stammering)

You: As a commander who've brought you victory, could I afford to neglect my prince's ultimate aims? Gallia is but the surface of your problems.

The best outcome is that Max's temper and behaviour is tempered and channeled by you. From a heartless fellow in the original, you get him to acknowledge that he too can be capable of feelings and emotion. Of course, his whole complex can be handled.

Gallia becomes part of the Imperial domain, but a fully autonomous one, with the Princess as head. That is the price Alicia and Welkin sought for them to join in the Imperial side against the Federation.

Face it: How cool would it be to use BOTH Selvaria and Alicia at the same time?

Now that's a "What If" scenario i would like to see.

Also For some odd reason, i imagining Kate Higgins and Johnny Yong Bosch doing that dialogue. Must be the Code Geass reference you did.

[yezhanquan]

You are right: Fukuyama and Yukana are Lelouch and C.C.. Of course, that is just my casting. But, seriously, it would be cool to see a lady officer basically saying "Screw you" to Max. I'm the one who's been winning the battles, so take your aristocrat attitude and stuff it up you ass, Prince.

[spawnofthejudge]

Max: You dare speak to your Prince in this manner?! You're nothing, just like Selvaria!

You (female commander with Yukana's voice, perhaps): That may be so, Sire. But, you cannot deny that the day was won with my help. All I ask is that you treat my troops with respect. Lady Selvaria has been instrumental as well. Or if you desire... (kneeling before Max) Lady Selvaria and I can be of use to your quest to become heir.

Max: How... did you... (cue Lelouch-like stammering)

You: As a commander who've brought you victory, could I afford to neglect my prince's ultimate aims? Gallia is but the surface of your problems.

The best outcome is that Max's temper and behaviour is toned down and channeled by you. From a heartless fellow in the original, you get him to acknowledge that he too can be capable of feelings and emotion. Of course, his whole complex can be handled.

Gallia becomes part of the Imperial domain, but a fully autonomous one, with the Princess as head. That is the price Alicia and Welkin sought for them to join in the Imperial side against the Federation.

Face it: How cool would it be to use BOTH Selvaria and Alicia at the same time?

With the Imperial forces as the final victors, Max duly becomes Emperor. But, he rules justly. Oh, and who shall be his Queen? Of course, Gallia is now first among equals in the domain; Welkin and Alicia having their wedding and kids.

So it would be a multi-route thing? With specific choices of what 'you' say (or do in missions) affecting the way that Maximillian acts? What a tightrope to get the Good End!

It... might work. I think I'd need to see it to believe it though.

And if someone mouthed off to him, I easily see him having them punished. Severely.

[yezhanquan]

So it would be a multi-route thing? With specific choices of what 'you' say (or do in missions) affecting the way that Maximillian acts? What a tightrope to get the Good End!

It... might work. I think I'd need to see it to believe it though.

And if someone mouthed off to him, I easily see him having them punished. Severely.

Not badmouthing outright. Notice how C.C. is seemingly polite with her words, yet they somehow manage to end up screwing Lelouch? Same thing here. Max isn't stupid. From the words of the dialogue, he won't be able to justify doing anything to this commander, who has sent the Welkin team on the run, and preserved the strength of the Empire's forces.

In fact, the intention is to have you start as a fresh graduate out of the Imperial Academy. First, you go under the command of Yaeger. As you score victories elsewhere, eventually, Selvaria takes notice and brings you directly before Max to deal with Gallia. From the initial air of dismissal, you make the prince eat his words repeatedly, and Selvaria even feels confident enough for you to direct her in battle, against the Welkin team.

I don't intend it to be multiple-path, but I guess it could be done. In this script, you, the commander, knows of Max's Lelouch-like background (mother being commoner, trying hard to impress people). And, let's face it, anyone with a heart can tell that Selvaria really wanted Max to acknowledge her presence.

[spawnofthejudge]

Not badmouthing outright. Notice how C.C. is seemingly polite with her words, yet they somehow manage to end up screwing Lelouch? Same thing here. Max isn't stupid. From the words of the dialogue, he won't be able to justify doing anything to this commander, who has sent the Welkin team on the run, and preserving the strength of the Empire's forces.Who would he have to justify it to? He also would likely attempt to force out exactly how your protagonist had determined all the pertinent info about him.

[yezhanquan]

He may be the absolute commander of this theater of operations, but if the Imperial court hears about this "lowly" prince acting against a "hero" of the Empire, things will be very interesting.

The usual means: spying. By this stage, you're no longer some small fry fresh from Academy. Troops bow to you. Even the stoic Selvaria can spare you a smile. Hell, you're even threatening to outshine the Prince himself. Indeed, Max recognises that should he try to remove you, it'll automatically translate into an attempt to hog all the credit to himself in the eyes of the Court. If you ask for something from the intelligence department, they express their discomfort.

"But... we'll do it. Only for you, Commander. And please, don't misuse it."

[spawnofthejudge]

...alright. If you write it, I'd read it. I'm far too involved in this conversation not to.

[MrTerrorist]

...alright. If you write it, I'd read it. I'm far too involved in this conversation not to.

Now if we could somehow convince Sega to do that special DLC Imperial Campaign....

[yezhanquan]

@MrTerrorist: Well, it's Sega's call. But, I get the feeling that they'll want to sell it as a full version game.

Of course, the commander character is a decent fellow at heart. He (for simplicity's sake) sees the dark side of the Empire, but vows not to let the darkness seep into his heart. So, for the first few battles, he follows orders. Cue the humane treatment to enemies. The jerks on his side will diss him for being "soft". Of course, he takes no notice.

Eventually, word of his abilities reached Selvaria's ears. And about time. Welkin's team has been tearing holes in the Empire's offensive (as seen in VC). Max is losing his head, and Selv thinks that you might be the man for the job. So, off you go to the Gallian front.

Against Welkin and his team, the commander proves to be a Worthy Opponent. Various members of the team, even Welkin himself, realised that this is no run-of-the-mill Imperial commander, but one which could end Gallia's independence. Max admits you into the Sterns (and forcing a slight name change). Selvaria trusts you. But, as you noted her behaviour around Max, and Max's reactions, and ask her about them, she obviously refuses to bite. You made a mental note to pursue it when things stabilises.

One by one, Welkin's teammates fell into Imperial hands. This part would be interesting. If you choose to kill team members, you can expect the resistance to stiffen, and chances of getting a "bad" ending increases. Imprison them, and you risk losing them should Welkin wins a mission against you (and rescuing the imprisoned members). Releasing them back to Welkin means fighting them again later, but they might help sway the team's view on the Empire. As your fame grew, you decide to "snoop" around for some information on Max.

Eventually, Alicia decides to use her powers as the last chance to defeat you. Selvaria (who hasn't released her powers for all to see, yet) grants you her services in this battle.

[spawnofthejudge]

@MrTerrorist: You mean the one they're releasing in the US on the sixteenth? Or what yezhanquan is talking about?

Against Welkin and his team, the commander proves to be a Worthy opponent. Various members of the team, even Welkin himself, realised that this is no run-of-the-mill Imperial commander, but one which could end Gallia's independence.Squad Seven was always up against a wall, particularly as the game progressed (and the main army decided to screw everyone over). The Imperial Army as it was could easily end Gallia's independence, and they knew it. I don't see how Welkin and Co. would see any sort of competent strategist as a Worthy Opponent, at least not without Squad Seven becoming more autonomous. Maybe the addition of the one thing I wanted from the original game (FACE THE ALLIANCE IN MORE THAN ONE BATTLE *cough*) would give them the opportunity.

[yezhanquan]

@MrTerrorist: You mean the one they're releasing in the US on the sixteenth? Or what yezhanquan is talking about?

Squad Seven was always up against a wall, particularly as the game progressed (and the main army decided to screw everyone over). The Imperial Army as it was could easily end Gallia's independence, and they knew it. I don't see how Welkin and Co. would see any sort of competent strategist as a Worthy Opponent, at least not without Squad Seven becoming more autonomous. Maybe the addition of the one thing I wanted from the original game (FACE THE ALLIANCE IN MORE THAN ONE BATTLE *cough*) would give them the opportunity.

Welkins will definitely find it strange.

Welkins: What, him again? We're merely Squad 7!
Alicia: I think we're more than that to him. He seems intent on chasing us to the ends of the world.
Welkins: He releases our guys, is generally unlike the Imperial jerks, AND he's ignoring the main army just to pursue us?
Alicia (correcting): Not ignoring. Delegating. Face it, Welkins. With that man's (imagine Inoue going "ano otoko") skills, the main army won't stand a chance now.

[MrTerrorist]

@MrTerrorist: Well, it's Sega's call. But, I get the feeling that they'll want to sell it as a full version game.

Your right, it would take a Blu-ray DVD to fit the entire Imperial Campaign just like VC's Gallia Campaign. Also i wonder if the Imperial Commander (Which i like to prefer call as a she since Yukana/Kate Higgins voice sounds cool) would be able influencewho Max will fall in love with like say... Selvaria, Cordelia or the Commander herself?

[spawnofthejudge]

Welkins will definitely find it strange.

Welkins: What, him again? We're merely Squad 7!
Alicia: I think we're more than that to him. He seems intent on chasing us to the ends of the world.
Welkins: He releases our guys, is generally unlike the Imperial jerks, AND he's ignoring the main army just to pursue us?
Alicia (correcting): Not ignoring. Delegating. Face it, Welkins. With that man's (imagine Inoue going "ano otoko") skills, the main army won't stand a chance now.Two things. One, I never got the gist that the Squad ever thought itself inherently superior to the main army. Two...

Welkins? Really?

Your right, it would take a Blu-ray DVD to fit the entire Imperial Campaign just like VC's Gallia Campaign. Also i wonder if the Imperial Commander (Which i like to prefer call as a she since Yukana/Kate Higgins voice sounds cool) would be able influencewho Max will fall in love with like say... Selvaria, Cordelia or the Commander herself?:eyespin:I understand now.

Too bad they won't take a fan-written scenario :(

[yezhanquan]

Haha! A dating sim amid the battles? Someone other than me has to do that part.

Anyway, since in VC, Imperial forces are seen swarming (and losing to) Squad 7, for the first part, the Imperial commander gathers her own core of officers. Some may be her friends from the academy, others may be promoted in the field. Regardless, when Selvaria calls upon her to the Gallian front, she has but one condition.

"I do this my way, with my men (or ladies)."
Selvaria's answer: See that you do not mess this one up.

Your squad vs. Squad 7: Need I say more?

@spawn: Well, given their track record, they would have realised that they're about the only ones kicking Imperial ass. Welkin won't think of themselves as superior, but they DO have the record, which with your arrival, would start reversing.

[MrTerrorist]

@MrTerrorist: You mean the one they're releasing in the US on the sixteenth? Or what yezhanquan is talking about?

I was talking about the fan made imaginary Imperial campaign me and yezhanquan were talking about, not the official DLC Imperial campaign from Sega. I apologize if you were confuse so i suggest we call yezhanquan Imperial Campaign idea, the Imperial Commander Campaign or (The Fan's Imperial campaign) to avoid confusion.

[yezhanquan]

Max: Oh? So, this is the new commander you speak of, Selvaria. She...(eyeing up and down) doesn't look like much.
Selvaria: My prince, rest assured that she'll turn the tide.
Max: She had better. And, she's going to do it alone. I wouldn't spare my troops supporting a commander who just stepped out of the academy not too long ago.
You: That's my intention as well. You see, I'm afraid that the other troops might... get in the way.
Max: You...
Selvaria: Stand down! Do not be insolent to the Prince!
You (kneeling, with a thin polite smile): You may await reports of my success, my Prince.

Selvaria: You speak with confidence. However, you might find Gallia to be... beyond your expectations.
You: My lady, I never fight battles without confidence. Squad vs. squad: sounds like even odds to all.

[spawnofthejudge]

@spawn: Well, given their track record, they would have realised that they're about the only ones kicking Imperial ass. Welkin won't think of themselves as superior, but they DO have the record, which with your arrival, would start reversing....Okay. Most of my issues are semantics/word choice, so I'll drop it.

I was talking about the fan made imaginary Imperial campaign me and yezhanquan were talking about, not the official DLC Imperial campaign from Sega. I apologize if you were confuse so i suggest we call yezhanquan Imperial Campaign idea, the Imperial Commander Campaign or (The Fan's Imperial campaign) to avoid confusion.:eyespin:I understand now.
Max: Oh? So, this is the new commander you speak of, Selvaria. She...(eyeing up and down) doesn't look like much.
Selvaria: My prince, rest assured that she'll turn the tide.
Max: She had better. And, she's going to do it alone. We wouldn't spare my troops supporting a commander who just stepped out of the academy not too long ago.
You: That's my intention as well. You see, I'm afraid that the other troops might... get in the way.
Max: You...
Selvaria: Stand down! Do not be insolent to the Prince!
You (kneeling, with a thin polite smile): You may await reports of my success, my Prince.

Selvaria: You speak with confidence. However, you might find Gallia to be... beyond your expectations.
You: My lady, I never fight battles without confidence. Squad vs. squad: sounds like even odds to all.If there was one thing I loved about the English version, it was the use of the Royal We to make him sound pompous. Side note: This commander really really doesn't like Maximillion, does s/he?

[yezhanquan]

I think of her as a Bunny Ears Lawyer. She's confident, but knows the line between that and arrogance. Yet, she has that sensitivity, that fear of losing her humanity to war, as all so often is the case. She treats people with respect, and as such, do expect somewhat the same treatment.

[spawnofthejudge]

I think of her as a Bunny Ears Lawyer. She's confident, but knows the line between that and arrogance. Yet, she has that sensitivity, that fear of losing her humanity to war, as all so often is the case. She treats people with respect, and as such, do expect somewhat the same treatment.

That word... I don't think it means what you think it means. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BunnyEarsLawyer) Key phrase here: 'personality quirks'.

[yezhanquan]

Well, does Deadpan Snarker counts as a personality quirk? Anyway, Sega could easily invent some for her. Even her friends from the academy go ,"You're still doing that? For crying out loud, you're a commander! Act like one."

Or how about munching bread, all the time? Shout out to C.C. and her pizza-eating.

Selvaria: Would you kindly not snack in the presence of the prince?
You (mouth full of bread): Can't help it, my lady. It's fuel for my brain.

Max: For the last time, stop eating in my tent!
You: Ok. (proceeds to bite from yet another sandwich)
Selvaria: Please excuse her, my Prince. She.... needs the nourishment.

[spawnofthejudge]

Well, does Deadpan Snarker counts as a personality quirk? Anyway, Sega could easily invent some for her. Even her friends from the academy go ,"You're still doing that? For crying out loud, you're a commander! Act like one."So are you spouting ideas, or would you actually write this scenario?

[MrTerrorist]

Well, does Deadpan Snarker counts as a personality quirk? Anyway, Sega could easily invent some for her. Even her friends from the academy go ,"You're still doing that? For crying out loud, you're a commander! Act like one."

And let us hope Sega makes the Commander a she and Yukana/ Kate Higgins does her voice.;)

[yezhanquan]

So are you spouting ideas, or would you actually write this scenario?

Wow. That would have to wait. My University finals are coming up and I wouldn't want to screw this one up.

But, seriously, I would want a full Imperial campaign for VC.

[spawnofthejudge]

Wow. That would have to wait. My University finals are coming up and I wouldn't want to screw this one up.

But, seriously, I would want a full Imperial campaign for VC.

:( For a moment, I thought I smelled fanfic. :frustrated: No getting my hopes up!

I will buy practically any game they sell with the name Valkyria Chronicles on it. Pretty much no questions asked.

[yezhanquan]

Sega hit a jackpot with VC, no doubts about that.

Selvaria has our sympathy. Definitely. Max's background comes a little too late for us to empathize with him. Still, it is quite clear that the Imperial army isn't all bad. To try to create a campaign from that point of view: I think it's a logical sequel, and a nice touch.

Character interactions, shoutouts (even to the original VC, when you eventually face Squad 7 and go, "That's how I played my team 7 back in the original!"), and alternate story. Come on, Sega! You can't be happy with a 4 mission bite-sized campaign, right?

[Girsej]

Got some really good news in the link, talking about a sequel. Nothing confirmed but at least the producer wants to do more.

http://www.ps3center.net/news/2692/sega-wants-to-make-a-sequel-to-valkyria-chronicles/

[Yu Ominae]

OH YEaH!

Thank you!

[yezhanquan]

A sequel continuing the storyline after the epilogue? Now, that I'll have to see.

[MakubeX2]

A sequel continuing the storyline after the epilogue? Now, that I'll have to see.

Or a prequel.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

I'm really up for the idea of a prequel focusing on the Imperial army I was always wondering while playing the game how it'd be to play as the other army. Heck I'm up for any kind of continuation of the Valkyria Chronicles universe.

[MakubeX2]

I'm really up for the idea of a prequel focusing on the Imperial army I was always wondering while playing the game how it'd be to play as the other army.

The only character that was closest to being Welkin's role in servitude to the Empire was Jaeger (despite his few appearance. Blame MGS4 for that.) A prequel explaining his past and motivation in serving the Empire despite his homeland being assimilated would be good.

Or they can just use the tried-and-tested route by focusing on General Gunther's exploits.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Or they can just use the tried-and-tested route by focusing on General Gunther's exploits.

There could be a whole other game based on the war Welkins dad faught in. Perhaps more would could be included around Cpt. Varrot and maybe even that guy in the graveyard.

I think its very possible for a sequel or prequel, at least in Japan. Even though it didn't sell too well in America it did make it on the greatest hits line up in Japan. Producer Nonaka Ryutaro told the Famitsu Weekly magazine that in light of the recent popularity, he really wanted to do a sequel to the game.

[Tak]

Got some really good news in the link, talking about a sequel. Nothing confirmed but at least the producer wants to do more.

http://www.ps3center.net/news/2692/sega-wants-to-make-a-sequel-to-valkyria-chronicles/

Before the original game was released, there were rumors about it being a trilogy. So I am very glad to see the producers affirming the possibilities of a sequel.

But, at this point, instead of a sequel or prequel, they could make a game corresponding to the events in Valkyria Chronicles. After all, the game ended with the second war over, and Imperial forces were on full retreat from Gallia. Yet, this could not have been possible without the existence of the Federation, which btw, was the primary enemy of the Empire, not Gallia. The latter being considered a bit of a side-show. Thus, a game could be made about the conflict between the Feds and the Imps.

That, and I yearn for a proper introduction of the Federation.

- Tak

[fallschirmjager]

A sequel continuing the storyline after the epilogue? Now, that I'll have to see.

But the war ends Europa wide in the epilogue.

[kujoe]

Before the original game was released, there were rumors about it being a trilogy. So I am very glad to see the producers affirming the possibilities of a sequel.

But, at this point, instead of a sequel or prequel, they could make a game corresponding to the events in Valkyria Chronicles. After all, the game ended with the second war over, and Imperial forces were on full retreat from Gallia. Yet, this could not have been possible without the existence of the Federation, which btw, was the primary enemy of the Empire, not Gallia. The latter being considered a bit of a side-show. Thus, a game could be made about the conflict between the Feds and the Imps.

That, and I yearn for a proper introduction of the Federation.

- Tak
Sega could pull off a Suikoden here.

One setting, different nations that rise and fall.

A sequel doesn't even have to be about Galia. It could be about another nation, all the while historical references about the events in the first game could also be used as the background for the new story.

[yezhanquan]

Sega needs a blockbuster franchise. VC can be that franchise.

[JagdPanther]

This would be absolutely awesome if they made another game. I'd preorder it this time. lol

[Jays]

Yes!

Thanks to Gamestops crazy deal - I kid you not - I was able to get this game for 45 bucks all together with shipping and handling, brand new!

I've been dying to get this game, but it's 69.99 here in Canada, lucky for me I was able to get this sweet, sweet deal.

[Runty]

So, when someone gets the DLC, do you plan on making videos? I'd love to see the wackiness of Episode Edy. Or someone showing off their skills in EX Hard Mode.

[MakubeX2]

So, when someone gets the DLC, do you plan on making videos? I'd love to see the wackiness of Episode Edy. Or someone showing off their skills in EX Hard Mode.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5145717
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5146570
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5175033

I could do a rip like I did with the Selvaria's Secret Mission if I wasn't feeling too lazy with Youtube's limit of 10 min/clip and all. I think you are better and faster off signing up for an account with Nico.

I only thing I'm interested in with the American DLC Release is whether did Sega bother with Dual Vocing the Characters in the DLC.

[yezhanquan]

Anyway, since the original Japanese title meant "Valkyria of the Battlefield: Gallian Chronicles", a possible sequel would deal with another hidden Valkyria in the other theatres of battle?

[spawnofthejudge]

Anyway, since the original Japanese title meant "Valkyria of the Battlefield: Gallian Chronicles", a possible sequel would deal with another hidden Valkyria in the other theatres of battle?Be interesting if we toured the world by finding all these little countries caught up in the conflict(s). I'd want to see more about the Federation, though; we got to see disappointingly little of them in the game.

[yezhanquan]

@spawn: I haven't forgotten about that little idea of mine. After placating Gallia, Team 7 and the Imperial squad get together to fight the Federation.

[spawnofthejudge]

@spawn: I haven't forgotten about that little idea of mine. After placating Gallia, Team 7 and the Imperial squad get together to fight the Federation.You better not have ;)

Maybe after the anime I'll take up the reigns of a good fanfic.

[yezhanquan]

Once the idea of having two Valkyrias doing battle side to side takes root in one's mind, let's just say that it's not easy to let go. Oh, and don't forget the image of a sandwich-munching female commander scaring the heck out of Welkin and Team 7.

[5cm.per.second]

I love this game! This weekend is going to be great playing the downloadable content.

[fallschirmjager]

How much is the DLC?

[5cm.per.second]

I have no idea haha, but I'm going to get it for cereals. I want to use Selveria's lance.

[OpenDoors]

Does anyone know whether the DLC (specifically the NA version but it shouldnt be too different from the japanese version) is just ONE mission or series of short missions?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173645
At 5 bucks a mission (more for me since I am in Canada) it is somewhat disappointing... for me at least.

[Willen]

Does anyone know whether the DLC (specifically the NA version but it shouldnt be too different from the japanese version) is just ONE mission or series of short missions?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173645
At 5 bucks a mission (more for me since I am in Canada) it is somewhat disappointing... for me at least.

The Edy DLC is one mission, I believe.

Selvaria's DLC is 3 missions, plus an unlockable mission.

The Hard EX DLC will basically make the hard skirmishes harder by disallowing the use of Edelwiess (and Shamrock too, I think) and boosting the enemy's stats.

[fallschirmjager]

Boosting the enemy's stats.

Higher than Level 20!?

D=

[5cm.per.second]

Lol thank goodness for all the randomly placed sandbags. I hardly actually ever even use either of the tanks since they use two command points when I'd rather have my snipers, Marina and Catherine, take out all the enemy leaders before I move out.

[spawnofthejudge]

How much is the DLC?

Depends on where you are. $4.99/pack in the US, 3.99 Euros/pack in Europe, and I don't know the Canadian price. Rumor has it that there will be a discount if you buy all three at once, but I won't know about that until I sign into PSN tonight to buy my copy.

The comments on the Playstation Blog pretty much all agree that they want trophies. (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/04/08/valkyria-chronicles-dlc-marches-to-psn-tomorrow/) Some won't even get the game without trophies :twitch:. Are they insane?

...Can I go home and play yet? :uhoh:

[JagdPanther]

Ugh. I just want to play it. >_<

I guess I'll have to use the Playstation Store for the first time. I have no idea how to use it. But it doesn't really matter now. It's still 3 weeks until I return home to my PS3.

[5cm.per.second]

I've never bought anything from the ps store either, but that'll soon change. As far as the people obsessed with trophies/achievements, I'll never understand that mentality.

[fallschirmjager]

Hmm, I wonder what it'll be on the Australian PSN.

Might have to just use a US account with my US version of the game instead.

[Sides]

Paid £9.57 for all three pack. I think it was worth it. Took less then 1h to download and install it.

I've never bought anything from the ps store either, but that'll soon change. As far as the people obsessed with trophies/achievements, I'll never understand that mentality.

Some people have to compensate for other things they don't have.

[Shiroth]

Just finished Edy's Detachment. Best part easily is seeing the few Squad 7 members who are with Edy at the time interact with one another --- plus more lol from Homer and Jann. Kinda rushed and received a B, though seeing the last video and going by the fact that there's multiple endings --- we'll probably hear Edy sing with the highest grade. Will go back to that tonight.

Marina and Lynn are so <3.

Only messed around with Selvaria's DLC so far (mainly to test out her wonderful weapon). No Valkyria mode for the first mission. Saving the best for last i guess.

As for Expert mode. I'll try that out later tonight.

Easily worth £3.19 each.

[MakubeX2]

I only thing I'm interested in with the American DLC Release is whether did Sega bother with Dual Vocing the Characters in the DLC.

Just finished Edy's Detachment.

So did Sega put in the effort to include Dual Voice Audio for the DLC ? Or have they resort to being cheap skate in the face of the current economical climate ?

[Solecs]

So did Sega put in the effort to include Dual Voice Audio for the DLC ? Or have they resort to being cheap skate in the face of the current economical climate ?

Looks like it's in dual audio, so you get both English and Japanese language tracks. Although the subtitles are the same in both, like the rest of the game, so some of subs don't exactly match what they're saying in Japanese.

Went through Edy's Detachment with a B rank, going for A rank now. I'll probably try Selvaria's missions and the Expert skirmishes over the weekend.

[JagdPanther]

Not that this really matters to me since I won't be able to play this for a month, but how many turns was garnering you a B rank?

[Solecs]

I got a B rank using 6 turns and an A rank with 4 turns. Don't know what 5 turns gets you since I just went from 6 to 4.

Also, just as a tease, the A rank ending was kind of epic, lol. At least I thought so :D.

[Runty]

Saw part of a playthrough of "Enter the Edy Detachment".

I'm still laughing at Marina's closet love of puppies.

[JagdPanther]

Hmm. 4 turns for an A.

How many CP per turn?

(I won't lie; I religiously used the strategy guide for my first playthrough, so being without it for the DLC will be a new experience for me)

[spawnofthejudge]

Hmm. 4 turns for an A.

How many CP per turn?

(I won't lie; I religiously used the strategy guide for my first playthrough, so being without it for the DLC will be a new experience for me)Just don't be afraid to lose a couple times to know what you're up against. Save often, and don't be afraid to restart to set up things differently.

I haven't finished Edy's Detachment yet, but I may try to finish in precisely five rounds so that we know what the limitation is.

And if I remember correctly, it's 7CP/turn. (I'm not with my game right now, someone may have to correct me)

[JagdPanther]

LOL Don't worry. I save religiously after pretty much every action. In any given map I use between 3-5 save slots to give me multiple options of what points to which to return.

[fallschirmjager]

Hmm. 4 turns for an A.

How many CP per turn?

(I won't lie; I religiously used the strategy guide for my first playthrough, so being without it for the DLC will be a new experience for me)

My first time through I got A in every mission but the first mission with Squad 7 (forget the name) Battle at Naggiar (2) and Breaking the Blockade.

However like you I had a lot of save files in action, I think last count I have ten save files. One for Book Mode before a mission/skirmish, one for the absolute start of the mission/skirmish and eight to spread around for pretty much every CP/action of a turn.

So if the next turn I was in a predicament I would go back and rethink. Pretty much cheating I say but it was always great when the first time you'd attempt a mission you could get the A Rank without loading a save but those were far and few between!

But I found the game always came back to just stopping and always thinking two moves ahead and anticipating the enemy's response. There's always a way to get the A rank, you just have to be quick.

Man, I really want to play VC but we've got a girl staying with us for a few months and the guest's room is right next to the games room. I go to work all day, come home, do some more work around the farm, exercise and after all that I can get maybe forty minutes in max before I have to stop so she can go to bed.

That or she'll have some crappy music blaring from her phone that's like finger nails running down a chalkboard even with her door closed.

Argh, I'm just venting... Still working on getting my PS3 online properly. Have to pick up a new router when the internet changes over next month.

[Keroko]

Personally, I've always found that the biggest flaw in Valkyria Chronicles.

For a tactical RPG, you'd expect the things to matter towards your score being 'how many enemies did you kill?' 'how many targets were off importance?' 'did you kill any tanks?' 'did you lose any men?' 'did you lose any tanks?' 'how many points did you capture?'

Instead, all that matters in 90% of the missions is how fast you can dash towards the final point. Most often the way to do that is the ignore everything mentioned above...

It's a flaw that irked me. If I decide to methodically move forward and eliminate any hostiles, secure any points to prevent their retreat, eliminate their leaders and avoid any casualties, I'm apparently doing a bad job compared to someone who just rushes past every enemy and captures the final point.

[spawnofthejudge]

Personally, I've always found that the biggest flaw in Valkyria Chronicles.

For a tactical RPG, you'd expect the things to matter towards your score being 'how many enemies did you kill?' 'how many targets were off importance?' 'did you kill any tanks?' 'did you lose any men?' 'did you lose any tanks?' 'how many points did you capture?'

Instead, all that matters in 90% of the missions is how fast you can dash towards the final point. Most often the way to do that is the ignore everything mentioned above...

It's a flaw that irked me. If I decide to methodically move forward and eliminate any hostiles, secure any points to prevent their retreat, eliminate their leaders and avoid any casualties, I'm apparently doing a bad job compared to someone who just rushes past every enemy and captures the final point.I agree with you totally. My second playthrough is being myself and doing it the way I want to rather than the way that I had to to get A's in missions.

I also didn't like how the easiest way to get an A in some missions is to solo it with Alicia. I know she's badass as all hell, but even the truly badass need backup and support.

[MakubeX2]

For a tactical RPG, you'd expect the things to matter towards your score being 'how many enemies did you kill?' 'how many targets were off importance?' 'did you kill any tanks?' 'did you lose any men?' 'did you lose any tanks?' 'how many points did you capture?'

Instead, all that matters in 90% of the missions is how fast you can dash towards the final point. Most often the way to do that is the ignore everything mentioned above...

Chill. For a new franchise, the presentation is slick enough. So I'll forgive the crew slacking upon the game's ranking mechanism.

In case you didn't notice, the DLCs has improved upon the flaws in the right direction in which certain stages and events are unlocked only after various conditions are met. So I'm sure by the next game, the fundamental flaws will have been fixed.

Personally, I'm hoping to see the story branches out in different directions based on the various tactical decisions made like the DLCs.

[Keroko]

I'm chill. I love the game and could easily play past the flaw I pointed out. But that won't stop me from pointing out flaws. If we don't point them out, they won't be fixed. After all, the very fact the DLC improves on this (Didn't know about this, as I haven't downloaded nor played the DLC yet) shows that others have pointed this out as well.

And yes, story branches dependent on decisions you make in the game would be a great feature to see.

[spawnofthejudge]

Personally, I'm hoping to see the story branches out in different directions based on the various tactical decisions made like the DLCs.And yes, story branches dependent on decisions you make in the game would be a great feature to see....Pardon me, I have to go clean up drool. :uhoh:

Valkyria Chronicles is an awesome game. There are always ways to get better, and if Sega can improve on the formula that made VC so damn fun, then they'll have a happy repeat customer in me.

[JagdPanther]

The strategy guide usually has you hit all of the targets of importance on the way to an A rank. For only a few missions do you have to give up a tank or a leader, and usually you were instructed to hit most along the way, anyway. Off the top of my head retaking the center of Bruhl is the only mission where in order to get an A rank you had to forgo eliminating more than 1 leader.

[Solecs]

In addition to the previous critiques, I'd also like for them to revamp the cover system. So that you can take cover behind other things other than sand bags, like benches, trees, etc and you can squat or go prone anywhere for accuracy bonuses. Also if they could re-do it so that you only get the defense bonuses when being attacked from the covered side, since you're not exactly being covered if the enemy sneaks up from behind :p.

As far as the ranking system goes, yeah it's a bit shallow. My first play through I just did it how I wanted to and the second play through I went for A ranks. I think for my next playthrough I'll try to take out all the enemies. I think I missed out on some of the aces on my first few play throughs since I haven't gotten all the medals yet :(.

[kujoe]

Branching story paths sound good to me too. I remember Front Mission 3, where one decision can drastically affect the story in huge ways. Playable characters plot points and missions would change... character deaths and so on.

The thought of a Valkyria Chronicles game having such a sense of scale would be wonderful to play through.

[Runty]

In addition to the previous critiques, I'd also like for them to revamp the cover system. So that you can take cover behind other things other than sand bags, like benches, trees, etc and you can squat or go prone anywhere for accuracy bonuses. Also if they could re-do it so that you only get the defense bonuses when being attacked from the covered side, since you're not exactly being covered if the enemy sneaks up from behind :p.

As far as the ranking system goes, yeah it's a bit shallow. My first play through I just did it how I wanted to and the second play through I went for A ranks. I think for my next playthrough I'll try to take out all the enemies. I think I missed out on some of the aces on my first few play throughs since I haven't gotten all the medals yet :(.

Maybe they'll do all that in VC2, whenever SEGA decides to make one. They'd better, in any case...

[Solecs]

Screenshot info for shcfyd question in the Anime thread:

also, does anyone know of a method to take screens on the PS3? i'd like to make some game/anime comparisons, but mostly for kicks and giggles

Some games have that kind of functionality built in, although I don't believe VC has it. The only other way I know of to take screenshots (or video for that matter) is to run your PS3 through a PC capture card. Most of the affordable ones only take composite or s-video input though, so no HD unless you spring for the really nice ones that run a few hundred dollars generally.

There is of course the tried and true method of just setting up a camera in front of your TV/Monitor/what have you ;).

[firehawk12]

Hey, does anyone have a save file at the end of the Edy and Sylvaria missions? I don't think I'm ever going to get A endings myself. :(

[fallschirmjager]

Just finished the game again with cleared data...

Faldio offing himself just pisses me off so much. I know I've said it before and I know most people agree but what a bloody awful plot piece...


I'll probably start a new game soon...



Well probably not for a couple of months, need to catch up on all the other games I missed playing VC so much.

[MakubeX2]

Faldio offing himself just pisses me off so much. I know I've said it before and I know most people agree but what a bloody awful plot piece...

It all makes perfect sense once you factor in the various character's Japanese Seiyuus, since it could not have end in other ways.

I do wonder how many of the anime watcher noticed this though.

[yezhanquan]

Suzaku and Lelouch, end of R2, take 2. Only this time, he gets bumped off as well. It's golden, I tell you.

In the finale, Sakurai's character killed Fukuyama's, just like in VC.

[fallschirmjager]

It all makes perfect sense once you factor in the various character's Japanese Seiyuus, since it could not have end in other ways.

I do wonder how many of the anime watcher noticed this though.

Sorry I've had a long day, in Ellet's words, care to expound on that?

[yezhanquan]

@fall...: See my post.

[fallschirmjager]

So what you're saying is:

The CV's of Faldio and Maximilian have butted heads before?

[yezhanquan]

Hell YEAH! In fact, I'm pretty much certain that they got Sakurai and Ohara in because of this. (Ohara-san is of course, Yuuko in the CLAMP canon, while Fukuyama is Watanuki, one of the leads in XXXholics. The pair also worked together in Code Geass.)

[MakubeX2]

So what you're saying the CV's of Faldio and Maximilian have butted heads before?

You need to watch more anime. Valkyria is actually a gold mine of Fanservice for those of us in the know.

[yezhanquan]

@MakubeX2: Aye. I'm sure what happened to Isara was a shoutout to Kuwashima-san.

Shibata-san's stint reminds me of his role in FMA.

Tanaka-anesan as another military woman: Check.