Narutaru discussion

[AnimeDaiSuki]

Hi...

I started watching Narutaru a while back...finished watching the 13th episode and have for the last month or so been waiting imatiently for the 14th episode which never seems to come...
Now my question will obviously be if anybody out there knows if they have even started producing a second season (I presume that the 13 episodes that I watched are the first season)? If so...will there be any translated episodes for Narutaru on AnimeSuki any time soon???

[tsurumaru]

Hi...

I started watching Narutaru a while back...finished watching the 13th episode and have for the last month or so been waiting imatiently for the 14th episode which never seems to come...
Now my question will obviously be if anybody out there knows if they have even started producing a second season (I presume that the 13 episodes that I watched are the first season)? If so...will there be any translated episodes for Narutaru on AnimeSuki any time soon???

Sadly the Narutaru anime was only ever conceived to cover 13 Episodes :(. This is approximately half of the the original manga storyline, which runs to 12 Volumes in total.
Therefore there is enough material for a second season, but as far as I'm aware the original series wasn't all that popular in Japan so we may not see the rest of the story in an animated form. :(

However if you did enjoy the show you could try reading the manga version entitled "Shadowstar" (in English) and published by Dark Horse comics. It has nearly caught up with the Anime version and should break into new territory fairly soon.
It also has a different and better (IMHO) opening few chapters and goes into more depth when dealing with the characters.

I've opened this thread to discuss any aspect of the manga:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491

:)

[AnimeDaiSuki]

Thx for the info Tsurumaru...sad to hear that there will most probably not be a second season of the anime, but I will certainly try and get my hands on the manga ^_^

[jennwenn]

Do the Narutaru DVD's contain any extra scenes?

[tsurumaru]

Do the Narutaru DVD's contain any extra scenes?

I'm waiting to find this out too, Have asked "The Triad" in the other Narutaru Anime thread as they might have some of the DVD's..... :)

[LordBrian]

DVD episode 1 had no new scenes. I don't know whether or not they'll add new scenes to the other eps, but I personally don't think they will.

[Lord Raiden]

Hey, look at the bright side. At least it was good enough that they are selling it as DVD's. That's a plus. :)

[Kotonoha]

Hey, look at the bright side. At least it was good enough that they are selling it as DVD's. That's a plus. :)

This is a joke, right? DVDs are the main reason why such anime are produced in the first place.

[Dragosmore]

This is a joke, right? DVDs are the main reason why such anime are produced in the first place.

DVDs also exist in Japan which are normally referred to as Region 2 (R2) dvds which are all Japanese, and high quality. That's what we're using. Obviously no one in their right minds would use American ones or something of the sort.

[Kotonoha]

DVDs also exist in Japan which are normally referred to as Region 2 (R2) dvds which are all Japanese, and high quality. That's what we're using. Obviously no one in their right minds would use American ones or something of the sort.

Dragosmore, I don't think we're ignore of that fact. ;)
What I meant is that shows like "Narutaru" are produced with dvd sales as the main income in mind, so of course the Japanese producers will put out DVDs. That has nothing to do with the quality of the show itself.

[Lord Raiden]

This is a joke, right? DVDs are the main reason why such anime are produced in the first place.
What I'm refering to is, IF the anime was bad enough, I'm sure the producers wouldn't have even bothered to make the DVD's even if that was the intended end result. If the anime was haded bad enough it would be pointless to make DVD's that would never sell. I agree that anime's are produced to sell DVD's, but in the end, even hollywood isnt dumb enough to try to produce a DVD of a flick that sucks. So why should it be any different in japan with bad anime?

So narutaru making it to DVD is the sign that it at least did decent.

[marin]

I dunno, no one puts a show on at midnight expecting great ratings, you know?

Late night airings are basically free advertisements for the DVDs, which they make money selling at 2~ eps to a disc.

And also hopefully increasing sales for the manga as well.

I don't think NaruTaru has much merchandising to sell, so, yeah, DVD and manga revenue would be about it.

[Kotonoha]

I dunno, no one puts a show on at midnight expecting great ratings, you know?


Plus, "Kids Station" is a pay tv channel. There isn't anything like ratings on a pay tv channel. ;)

Anyway, the sale date for the first Narutaru DVD had been determined and announced even before the show went on air, which is a clear sign that quality or "ratings" have nothing to do with that.

[Xiandu]

Ok i just watched the first episode and was wondering what makes you guys like this series so much? I heard that it is very emotional and deep like Gunslinger Girl. From what i have seen with the first ep, it seems nothing like that and seems to be a children's show perhaps. Please i am in need of some insite on this show so i know wether or not to keep watching it. I have all the eps downloaded but my time to watch anime is limited due to other shows i watch and work and FFX-2. Is it a worthy investment? Does it get much deeper than the first ep?

[hhaamu]

Does it get much deeper than the first ep?

Yes! Yes! Yes!

You learned nothing from the series by watching the first episode. The first episode is totally different than the rest of the series. Go watch at least three and then you can decide if you should continue or not.

[Flash_Squirrel]

i have seen with the first ep, it seems nothing like that and seems to be a children's show perhaps.

Narutaru Manga.
http://server4.uploadit.org/files/231103-aaaa.jpg
Damn those kid's shows, I knew they were violent!

Actually, I had an hard time with the picture, since its a little spoiler from some episode I forgot, but the anime was subbed ages ago, so I will just post the pic as an [img] <|><|>;

[Muraki]

You shouldn't judge any anime by the first ep ;) it seems carefree at first but then the plot twists and I'll shut up before I ramble on and spoil the entire series :heh:

[Xiandu]

Thanks everyone i was just wondering. I know you never judge by the 1st ep. It just seemed so different from what i thought it was going to be. Ok i will make sure to watch the series.

[marin]

Go watch the first ep of Evangelion then watch The End of Evangelion and note the contrast...

That's kinda like what you would get if you put the first and last episode of NaruTaru back to back...

[Lambda]

Oh I don't know, the first episode of Evangelion has that father-son relationship already abundantly clear, it has the idea of sending someone who's sick to the extent of being on a drip into combat . . .

Narutaru has a near-drowning. And the tone of the end titles. And some clues in the opening titles. Actually, Narutaru has plenty of clues in its first episode as to its nature, they're just usually drowned out by the generally upbeat and inoffensive ambience.

Actually, I was rewatching it recently, and there was something that I particularly started to notice. Anyone noticed how there are so many shots in which the colour of the irises of people's (or Hoshimaru's) eyes gradually darken?

[marin]

Also it's worth noting that while the Narutaru manga throws Shiina into a dead serious lethal situation involving other dragonettes pretty quick (the attack on the flight back) the anime really takes until the final confrontation with grey haired boy in episode 4 to give an indication of just how serious things will get...

[Xiandu]

Okay i just finished this series, and must say that i am really f-ing disturbed. GSG is bad, but this show takes the cake. OMG this show is so messed up,really it. It got me hooked but then it apalled me. I wasn't sure if i wanted to keep watching it after the 11th episode. I did and now i think i kinda reget it now. It's amazing how this show really affected me. Several times i found myself saying "this ain't right, how can they show stuff like this?" Another thing, the name of the station that the show airs on is Kid's Station? WTF!?! What damn kids would or rather should be allowed to watch something so horrific as this show is.

[Lambda]

As I understand it, the company "Kid's Station" doesn't exclusively make material directed at children.

[Xiandu]

Hmm didn't know that. Then why name it that? Wouldn't naming it that tend to make people think the same thing i did?

[tsurumaru]

Hmm didn't know that. Then why name it that? Wouldn't naming it that tend to make people think the same thing i did?

Nah thats just the Japanese for you!

This show aired between Midnight and 2AM originally on a pay channel so its unlikely people would confuse it for a daytime kids show......

[naantje]

ok old thread but had to bump i just finished the series and.. ehh could anyone explain me WHAT THE FUCK this is supposed to be?!?!?!?!? i dont get it AT ALL everyone dies but her dads arms are magicly healed and or i mean just WHAT ASDFHFJJFASJFAS plz help:(

[Flash_Squirrel]

Hiro-chan died killed by hoshimaru. The scene you see at the end its a few time after the incidents of the Hiro's dragonet (since Shiina is in college now).

The arms are healed because some time passed..

If you want to know more.. Read the manga. :/

[CodeWordChobits]

In Narutaru at the end just after Hoshimaru kills Hiro there is scene where Akira is standing over her father's corpse, breathing heavily, and over all distraught. What do you think drove her to kill her dad instead of herself?

I for one think that she had been sexually abused by him. She almost mentioned that she was sick because she was pregnant, when her "prince" saved her from harrasment on the field, then she tried to seduce him in the empty nurse's office. This is a fairly common way for children to act out in that kind of situation... not to mention her dad is looking through albums and remeniscing about when she was Daddie's girl. I don't know what better motivation for murder there could be, than being raped repeatedly by someone you hold very dear.

I know there are other possibilities, and am interested in hearing your take on just what drove her to murder her own father, when it seemed her only real wish before then was to die.

[Flash_Squirrel]

In the manga, Akira's father is not as quiet as in the anime. He is kind of rude and generally not pleased to have her around.
There is a possiblity of him being a child-abuser, though I'm not really sure. After that she got locked inside a reformatory, so I wouldn't know.

[marin]

Given the very title of the thread, I think we can dispense with the SPOILER tags and just say that from now on, here be spoilers...





:hmm:





:nono:





Anyway, yes, I think it's pretty clear that Akira was sexually abused by her father. There is an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence that suggests this.

In the last NaruTaru MEGATHREAD which was unfortunately lost in the migration to VBulletin, this was pretty much the consensus.

Someone else posited a theory that her father was prostituting her out as well, but there was only one line in the whole thing that possibly suggested it.

[LordBrian]

Out of curiosity, which lines suggested sexual abuse?

[Goras]

1st time I watched narutaru, I thought akira was felling bad, becouse she had her period.

after rewatching, I noticed the scene wher she sais to her classmate who helps her
whispering pr....

is there another part that led you thinking she was pregnant?

[Shii]

Given the very title of the thread, I think we can dispense with the SPOILER tags and just say that from now on, here be spoilers...
Never do that, just because there's the word "speculation" in the thread doesn't mean everyone who looks has already seen the whole thing.

[Deralti]

1st time I watched narutaru, I thought akira was felling bad, becouse she had her period.

after rewatching, I noticed the scene wher she sais to her classmate who helps her
whispering pr....

is there another part that led you thinking she was pregnant?

bold 1: Er... you haven't taken the "special ed" class yet, have you? ;)

bold 2: That could be prostitute, pregnant, prissy, anything. for one thing, could you describe this scene a bit better? I can't remember it.

[marin]

One notion I do wish to dispell is the idea that she was trying to whisper "Pre-pre-pregnant" to her classmate.

News flash, the japanese word for "pregnant" does NOT begin with "pre"

[CodeWordChobits]

I think she was sexually abused by her father for many reasons.... The way they interact with eachother is kind of up and down. Sometimes he seems the concerned parent and other times he appears only to care about the success of his bar. The mother also has very little to say about anything involving Akira. She stands off in the background and lets the father do as he sees best. This is often the kind of way parents who are involved in this kind of thing will act.
There is another scene in "The invisible ground level" ep - 11, where Akira is looking at pills in the drugstore, Ishida walks in and interupts them. Then Akira suddenly takes off, and the store clerk says, "Do you know her?" Ishida replies, "Uhm... yeah.." Clerk again responds with, "It must be your fault" he again, "HUh?" clerk again, "You don't understand, I suppose" This implies IMO that she is looking for remedies for her "condition" wich are much more readily available to ppl in Japan than here in the US.
Then there is a scene where her father asks about the medicine she has and she takes off again leaving him to wonder, "What's wrong with her." Which is another reason to argue against the fact that she may have been sexually abused by him. But the episode when he is looking through the albums and reminiscing about her as a child would lead me to believe that it has been going on for a very long time, and that it has become accepted to the family.
The scene where she whispers... pre..pre... is also in Ep - 11 when they are outside for P.E. playing soccer or something, just after the medicine scene from abaove. Akira collapses, after a few classmates comment on her uselessness, and her not looking so good. No one will take her to the nurse's office because she is gross. So Ishida, like a true prince, steps up to the plate and takes care of her. One of the girls makes a comment about Sakura's smell, and she clutches at her stomache, they continue along ignoring the chiding banter behind them. Once alone Ishida takes the chance to throw out a few compliments contrary to what the others had been saying. They share an awekward moment where Akira falls down and then proceed to the nurses office. Once there they find it empty, he suggest that she only need to lay down and she takes one of the beds. He tells her he has to get back to class and start to leave... he then stops and tells her she should have more self confidence, and assures her that he doesn't hate her. When he starts to leave again she runs to him and snuggles into his back, taking Ishida by surprise. She holds his hand and trys to say something but the words won't seem to come, the only letter she pronounces is P...
Cut to Hiro's class where she is found to be absent. Cut to Hiro sitting in front of Shiina's house. Back to nurse's office... We find Ishida and Sakura behind the curtain of the bed, he comes flying out declaring that he can't, she pulls down her shirt and looks dissapointed or confused. He apologizes and tells her he is happy about it but concerned with what the others will say about him if he is gone too long. This proves him to be just like everyone else.
I just thought of another possible reason for her illness... The episode where we find all tis out is "The invisible ground level," well perhaps the trials that Hiro are facing are the some ones that Akira had gone through? Maybe someone didn't just use the test tube, but kicked it after all? I don't know I tend to still lean heavily towards the sexual abuse theory... but I thought I would throw that one out for eveyone to stew on hehe.
Sorry this turned out so long but you guys wanted a recap of the episode with the most relevance so I gave it hehe. And please use the tags they are there for a reason... I have read alot things I shouldn't have in other forums and it reall sucks when it happens.

[corp20]

I have one question for you all...
Okay you guys remember that scene when Hiro-chan dragonet burst in on that "head girl" that picked on her. When was she sleeping with her brother? Thats what it looked like to me.
EDIT: Misspelled dragonet. :p

[CodeWordChobits]

I have one question for you all...
Okay you guys remember that scene when Hiro-chan dragnet burst in on that "head girl" that picked on her. When was she sleeping with her brother? Thats what it looked like to me.


Do you mean was she sleeping with her brother? I think she may have been... but just because they are in there PJs and sitting on the bed together (it looks like she is sitting on his lap, but she is actually down on his feet or shins) doesn't mean they were involved sexually. Any chance of us finding out is destroyed by the demon when Aki's brother's head is opened like a can. However due to the nature of the show, and the fact that you'd have to be one messed up chick to rape another girl with a test tube, I think that Aki would have been capable of being in that kind of relationship with her brother. And it is in episode 12 - "My eyes are the Victim's eyes, My hands are the Assailant's hands" about 2/3 of the way into it or so...

And it's Dragonet, not Dragnet lol. The latter being an old detective sitcom... sorry I know it was a typo but it was funny.

[NeverRamza]

Do you mean was she sleeping with her brother? I think she may have been... but just because they are in there PJs and sitting on the bed together (it looks like she is sitting on his lap, but she is actually down on his feet or shins) doesn't mean they were involved sexually. Any chance of us finding out is destroyed by the demon when Aki's brother's head is opened like a can. However due to the nature of the show, and the fact that you'd have to be one messed up chick to rape another girl with a test tube, I think that Aki would have been capable of being in that kind of relationship with her brother. And it is in episode 12 - "My eyes are the Victim's eyes, My hands are the Assailant's hands" about 2/3 of the way into it or so...

And it's Dragonet, not Dragnet lol. The latter being an old detective sitcom... sorry I know it was a typo but it was funny.

I saw some German manga scans of this scene and the anime was a bit toned down here. She had a lingerie top on that barely covered her chest and that was it. No panties either. They were obviously up to some dirty things here.

[CodeWordChobits]

I saw some German manga scans of this scene and the anime was a bit toned down here. She had a lingerie top on that barely covered her chest and that was it. No panties either. They were obviously up to some dirty things here.

Hehe, I am really looking forward to reading the manga... and if you don't already know, it has been released in the US by Darkhorse comics. It isn't called Narutaru though... it's called "Shadow Star." So keep an eye out for it. I just hope they didn't tone it down too much... oh wells.

[marin]

Hehe, I am really looking forward to reading the manga... and if you don't already know, it has been released in the US by Darkhorse comics. It isn't called Narutaru though... it's called "Shadow Star." So keep an eye out for it. I just hope they didn't tone it down too much... oh wells.
The head of Studio Proteus basically said that they are NOT going to run that volume of NaruTaru as it is, and I don't think simply "toning it down" would be enough...

[TronDD]

I read on this board that they are going to have the artist redraw a few scenes.

I bought the Japanese language versions to make sure I get uncensored mind warping violence.

EDIT: However, ironically, I like the "leave it to your imagination" style of the violance in the anime series.

[Flash_Squirrel]

I have one question for you all...
Okay you guys remember that scene when Hiro-chan dragnet burst in on that "head girl" that picked on her. When was she sleeping with her brother? Thats what it looked like to me.
The guy had a relationship with her sister (The one who got cutted in half). Remember that in the manga she was pantyless and her brother was with only his pants on.

[TronDD]

Family bonds are stronger in Japanese culture. ;)

[TronDD]

I just watched the nurse's office scene in episode 11 and thought of something else.


Another indication of Sakura being sexually abused. When the boy from the beggining of the series with the knife dragonet is hitting on her, he says he likes her hair. So what does Sakura do, but cut her hair off. Trying to be unattractive to evil men that want her for sex.
And in the nurses office, I think it's pretty apparent she knows what she's doing.


With they'd hurry up and translate all the manga.

[Goras]

So... the US version of narutaru manga is going to be "changed"?

@#$@#$ :mad:

[Briareos]

So... the US version of narutaru manga is going to be "changed"?@#$@#$ :mad:Well, StudioProteus.com just closed (they announced it on their site before it went down -- yes it's closed) so I can't give you any links, but Studio Proteus never stated HOW Dark Horse was going to handle the situation. Toren Smith of Studio Proteus said that there may be some trouble running that chapter, but it was up to Dark Horse to decide how the situation was going to be handled.

Please don't have a cow until we either get confimation that the series will be edited, or it comes out (or doesn't come out) in Super Manga Blast or a collected Graphic Novel. No one knows yet.

[Deralti]

Well, StudioProteus.com just closed (they announced it on their site before it went down -- yes it's closed) so I can't give you any links, but Studio Proteus never stated HOW Dark Horse was going to handle the situation. Toren Smith of Studio Proteus said that there may be some trouble running that chapter, but it was up to Dark Horse to decide how the situation was going to be handled.

Please don't have a cow until we either get confimation that the series will be edited, or it comes out (or doesn't come out) in Super Manga Blast or a collected Graphic Novel. No one knows yet.
Aggh! I just BOUGHT narutaru manga 1! :frustrated:

Is it ok if someone scans the "toned down" scenes and translates them(or at least tells me) so i know what I missed(if they DO tone it down, that is.)

[Goras]

The volume that we are talking here is vol 5? because this one is to be released in march 2004 I think.

[Flash_Squirrel]

The volume that we are talking here is vol 5? because this one is to be released in march 2004 I think.
Volume 6.....

[SirCanealot]

Heh, if the Narutaru manga is cencored it's a huge step back from how far we've come already.
Grrr, don't licence it if you can't bring it out in its original form -_-

[LordBrian]

Heh, if the Narutaru manga is cencored it's a huge step back from how far we've come already.
I disagree. I think that the fact that it's coming out at all is a huge step forward.

[tsurumaru]

Aggh! I just BOUGHT narutaru manga 1! :frustrated:

Is it ok if someone scans the "toned down" scenes and translates them(or at least tells me) so i know what I missed(if they DO tone it down, that is.)

Hmm nothing censored visually that I 've spotted to date (althought the later scenes in Volume 6 are going to be a cert) as well as possibally parts of Volume 10, 11 and 12.... :twitch:

In terms of conversations though there have been a few changes (probably for legal reasons). Ie the girl that came to tell tsurumaru (see my avvy) she was pregnant with his child was only 14 years old :heh:
Also the first time that Shiina and Akira meet Tsurumaru and Norio, afterwards Norio and Tsurumaru discuss their meeting with the girls and Tsurumaru tells Norio he can tell that Akira is a potential Nymphomaniac :heh: I'm pretty sure Dark Horse glossed over this because of Akira's age too (although they may have problems with the later volumes with another character......).

[TronDD]

Sex and 15 year olds isn't a problem in the Battle Royale manga. And that doesn't just talk about it. That one is released by Tokyopop, I think. It's less a legal issue than one of company standards, I'd say. I guess Dark Horse would rather be known to edit and censor the manga they license than as peddlers of lolita smut.

[marin]

Well Dark Horse/Studio Proteus are not selling "Shadow Star" as an OMG MATURE manga like Battle Royale, they are selling it as a Young Adult story alongside their other Super Manga Blast titles and such.

[corp20]

I don't believe that Shadow Star is heavily edited. Only a few Graphic Scenes. Well thats what I know.

[marin]

It's not heavily edited yet

[corp20]

It's not heavily edited yet
What a pessimist...
Accentuate the positive.

[CodeWordChobits]

Wow I'm really glad to see all the replies to my origional speculations outloud. But I think that we have gotten off topic.... I know that it being edited or watered down is a big concern because the appeal of this anime/manga is it's punch you in the gut aproach to things that we would rather not have to deal with in real life. We need to get back to more speculation on some of the lesser known aspects of it, hehe. Has anyone thought about my earlier idea that maybe Akira went through the same kind of harassment that Hiro is going through at the end? ie. test tube rape? Perhaps she had the same kind of experience (with the older brother of the girl accosting Hiro?) but they went through with the whole thing. That may even be why he admonishes her not to go through with kicking her... All of Akira's problems seem to be with her stomache area... (this goes along well with the pregnancy idea too) I know it may be a little too much thinking but it makes for an interesting association back to some of the other chars. Let me know what you think of this one. Also, if there is anything that you are not sure about or are wondering what other people think when they see those same images you are looking at post it here... I love this series and I want to discuss it more with fans. So speculate away folks :)

[LordBrian]

What a pessimist...
Accentuate the positive.
The positive would be easier to accentuate if we didn't know what was coming, and how utterly graphic it truly is. It will be heavily edited, in certain scenes. We know this because of how these scenes were handled in other countries, where the initial volume in question (6) was already released -- edited. And since we're talking about the American release, it stands to figure that the same thing will happen...because after all, America is the land of censorship where the highest priority is "thinking of the children."

[Briareos]

The positive would be easier to accentuate if we didn't know what was coming, and how utterly graphic it truly is. It will be heavily edited, in certain scenes. We know this because of how these scenes were handled in other countries, where the initial volume in question (6) was already released -- edited. And since we're talking about the American release, it stands to figure that the same thing will happen...because after all, America is the land of censorship where the highest priority is "thinking of the children."Yep, just look how many people are going ape over the whole Janet Jackson Superbowl tit slip.

[DCDraGon]

Hmmm...

I just recently watched an anime series and watched a whole bunch of people get slaughterd. Now normally this wouldn't bother me... BUT watching a little girl getting stabbed numerous times before finally having her stomach ripped open while all along shes begging for her life... I find this a little disturbing.

I can't believe no-one seemed to mention what type of series it was, I heard it was great... but as you can see it would have been nice if they mentioned the little things that made the story so great.

Because of this.. im rather hesitant to download any anime. Are any of the other new series like this...? and why do they make series like this? any ideas?

Just before I go. You should watch Narutaru its a GREAT anime series, with lots of cute characters and if the intro is anything to go by, its Azumanga mixed with Pokemon. Watch the series, you'd be suprised how it ends.

[Vesaas]

If u named the anime series u watched, it would've helped...


Not that many shows like that though.

Try something like Chrno Crusade or Full Metall Alchemist, they're a bit "safer":)


As to why they make these kind of series......myself I like dark anime series. Things getting really messed up. Kindof shows the possible brutality of human beeings. makes u think. Reality might be worse u know!

[Wilcon]

Hmmm...

I just recently watched an anime series and watched a whole bunch of people get slaughterd. Now normally this wouldn't bother me... BUT watching a little girl getting stabbed numerous times before finally having her stomach ripped open while all along shes begging for her life... I find this a little disturbing.

I can't believe no-one seemed to mention what type of series it was, I heard it was great... but as you can see it would have been nice if they mentioned the little things that made the story so great.

Because of this.. im rather hesitant to download any anime. Are any of the other new series like this...? and why do they make series like this? any ideas?

Just before I go. You should watch Narutaru its a GREAT anime series, with lots of cute characters and if the intro is anything to go by, its Azumanga mixed with Pokemon. Watch the series, you'd be suprised how it ends.

Yeah, thats sound a bit too "extreme", but what serie is it then? what the name of it?

[SomeName]

I'm glad I stopped watching the series at 11. It seemed to be dragging on too much, and I wasn't interested in the characters at all. I was just waiting hoping that something would happen. If I continued to watch the last 2 episodes only to find out that that was what awaited me... I wouldn't have been a happy camper. >_<

[Kensuke]

It is disturbing that people want to know about series where little girl is stabbed to death.
:joke:

To me "dark" anime is just one genre. Sometimes I watch romantic series, then get tired of it and switch to more darker themes and after that maybe some mecha and so on...

If you want disturbing anime then watch Jin-Roh or Serial Experiments Lain, at least they were disturbing to me. (Both are licensed)

[Tabiree]

disturbing anime = loli-con SHIT

[Iron Monkey]

Uh, I'm pretty sure he's talking about Narutaru. I'm not certain (since I haven't watched the series yet), but judging from his sarcastic ending comment on the show, I'm guessing that's the show he's refering to.

[davFunereal]

Uh, I'm pretty sure he's talking about Narutaru. I'm not certain (since I haven't watched the series yet), but judging from his sarcastic ending comment on the show, I'm guessing that's the show he's refering to. Just before I go. You should watch Narutaru its a GREAT anime series, with lots of cute characters and if the intro is anything to go by, its Azumanga mixed with Pokemon. Watch the series, you'd be suprised how it ends. I don't think that's sarcasm, just a suggestion. But I haven't seen Narutaru.

If it is sarcasm, it's terribly misplaced.

[Sepiraph]

Minor spoiler

Yes, it is Narutaru (I seen the series).


As to why people would make it series like that, I have no idea. Try asking the original author instead of asking us.

As for are there any other anime like this...

Kenshin - Reminiscence

Plenty of innocent people got killed... a girl begged for Kenshin's life before being stabbed in the throat about 1 minute into the OVA. Not for the feint-of-heart.

[marin]

In terms of sheer psychological disturbingness,

NaruTaru

wins the thread.




However,

I just recently watched an anime series and watched a whole bunch of people get slaughterd. Now normally this wouldn't bother me... BUT watching a little girl getting stabbed numerous times before finally having her stomach ripped open while all along shes begging for her life... I find this a little disturbing.
That is not NaruTaru.

There were not a whole bunch of people getting slaughtered.

No girl got stabbed numerous times, nor was she begging for her life.

What happened was actually a whole lot more disturbing than that, actually...

[Flash_Squirrel]

The anime is child's play compared to the manga (and the later volumes).

Ok, let's add MAJOR SPOILERS. Don't read if you intend to read the manga.

The girl getting chopped in half in volume 6 is just the beginning, inside the 10th volume a plane from the military shoots Shiina and chop her in 3 pieces (and you got to see her divided in 3 parts in the next pages too, with the innards on the road)

After that Norio gets brutally tortured by some Mafia guy and Tsurumaru sees him attached by the head to a doll he was making. To perpetrate the fact that Shiina got chopped, Shunji opens a bag with the remains of Shiina for the joy of all the people reading the manga.

Not happy Kitoh decides to let Akira jumps out of a window and splat her on the road.

The last volume is filled with psychological violence. :/

What a cute little series, who said pokemon a while ago?

Anyways Kitoh is working on a new series, called Bokura No, and I have the feeling it's going to be on the same drift as Narutaru.

[DemonEye]

Hmmm...

I just recently watched an anime series and watched a whole bunch of people get slaughterd. Now normally this wouldn't bother me... BUT watching a little girl getting stabbed numerous times before finally having her stomach ripped open while all along shes begging for her life... I find this a little disturbing.

I can't believe no-one seemed to mention what type of series it was, I heard it was great... but as you can see it would have been nice if they mentioned the little things that made the story so great.

Because of this.. im rather hesitant to download any anime. Are any of the other new series like this...? and why do they make series like this? any ideas?

Just before I go. You should watch Narutaru its a GREAT anime series, with lots of cute characters and if the intro is anything to go by, its Azumanga mixed with Pokemon. Watch the series, you'd be suprised how it ends.


Stay away from Koroshiya, the anime and the manga. Just a fair warning, if you don't like disturbing stuff. It's just nasty.

[DemonEye]

I'm glad I stopped watching the series at 11. It seemed to be dragging on too much, and I wasn't interested in the characters at all. I was just waiting hoping that something would happen. If I continued to watch the last 2 episodes only to find out that that was what awaited me... I wouldn't have been a happy camper. >_<

Well, if you where waiting/hoping that SOMETHING would happen, then u really should have watched the last 2 eps right ;)

[hunterx]

Hmmm...

I just recently watched an anime series and watched a whole bunch of people get slaughterd. Now normally this wouldn't bother me... BUT watching a little girl getting stabbed numerous times before finally having her stomach ripped open while all along shes begging for her life... I find this a little disturbing.

I can't believe no-one seemed to mention what type of series it was, I heard it was great... but as you can see it would have been nice if they mentioned the little things that made the story so great.

Because of this.. im rather hesitant to download any anime. Are any of the other new series like this...? and why do they make series like this? any ideas?

Just before I go. You should watch Narutaru its a GREAT anime series, with lots of cute characters and if the intro is anything to go by, its Azumanga mixed with Pokemon. Watch the series, you'd be suprised how it ends.

so someone tricked you into watching narutaru and you're trying to do the same? Narutaru wasn't that bad, I've seen worse but it's your own damn fault for not checking out what the anime was about before watching it, it could easily have been night shift nurses or some other disgusting shit eating crap

[Machine-Gunner]

very few anime's are like that. and besides its animated!, so i dont see how it could warp your mind..imagine seeing it in realistic style..

[Flash_Squirrel]

Stay away from Koroshiya, the anime and the manga. Just a fair warning, if you don't like disturbing stuff. It's just nasty.

With a name like that, I guess you can't go wrong. :)

In case you wonder, Koroshiya means Trained Killer.

[DCDraGon]

Haha...

I've heard of Night Shift Nurses, but thats not exactly an anime now is it (Hentai). In regards to my sarcastic comments I truly apologise.

Narutaru is FAR from Azumanga + Pokemon combined, although the intro does give you that type of impression, in reality though its one of the many disturbing animes out there.

I've heard season 2 of Narutaru is comming out, for those of you intrested in disturbing anime, i'd recommend it hands down.

Personally i like to watch light hearted anime, and usually stay away from dark anime series. But in my search for anime i've happened to stumble across nearly all of the dark anime series out there, and since i've purchased or downloaded them.. I usually end up watching them.

If you don't like disturbing anime, heres a list of anime i've watched and found quite disturbing :-

Serial Experiments Lain, Boogiepop Phantom, Key the Metal Idol, Saikano, Perfect Blue, Evangelion (The last few eps + Extras), Grave of the Fire Flies (very VERY sad story). Theres quite a few more disturbing anime series but i've only watched these ones so can't really comment on the rest.

Well I guess its back to watching Prince of Tennis, at least I can watch that in peace with no worrys of it transforming in a dark anime.... Although it is an anime... Hence, I wouldn't be suprised if the main character snapped and used his tennis racket as a deadly weapon slicing and dicing the opposition.

I wonder.. :D

[Griffith]

The anime is child's play compared to the manga (and the later volumes).

Ok, let's add MAJOR SPOILERS. Don't read if you intend to read the manga.

The girl getting chopped in half in volume 6 is just the beginning, inside the 10th volume a plane from the military shoots Shiina and chop her in 3 pieces (and you got to see her divided in 3 parts in the next pages too, with the innards on the road)

After that Norio gets brutally tortured by some Mafia guy and Tsurumaru sees him attached by the head to a doll he was making. To perpetrate the fact that Shiina got chopped, Shunji opens a bag with the remains of Shiina for the joy of all the people reading the manga.

Not happy Kitoh decides to let Akira jumps out of a window and splat her on the road.

The last volume is filled with psychological violence. :/

What a cute little series, who said pokemon a while ago?

Anyways Kitoh is working on a new series, called Bokura No, and I have the feeling it's going to be on the same drift as Narutaru.

So let me get this straight.. Shiina and Akira die? WTF, they're the main characters for god's sake, that sucks. Btw, who ends up living at the end of it all?

[complich8]

Narutaru's opening is an exercise in dissonance, both with the disparity of the anime and the happiness of the opening and with the actual animation in the opening itself.

The series itself is shocking, is disturbing, is nasty, and isn't for everyone. Don't let the chibi opening fool you.

On the other hand, if you didn't pick up on how shocking and disturbing the anime was getting by episode 3 or 4, you're not going to get away with blaming the series, you're just not frigging paying attention. Seriously. Episode 3 a dude dies horribly, after threatening to kill other people just as horribly and suggesting that akira goes through with it and kills herself. episode 4 introduces this dark friend of shiina's, tosses her mother and the issues her mother causes into the mix, adds the panda private school crew and their collections of miscellaneous guns and their evil plots, and has akira chop her hair off like the disturbed neurotic she is. You can't honestly blame the series when you're ignoring the warning signs, you know?

[davFunereal]

I'd like to download the season 1 batch of Narutaru, now that I know a thing or two about it. But there's no discussions about it here, not long ones.

Someone give me the word. Is it any good?

[Flash_Squirrel]

So let me get this straight.. Shiina and Akira die? WTF, they're the main characters for god's sake, that sucks. Btw, who ends up living at the end of it all?

Shiina, with her dragonet's power (Which is not Hoshimaru) was reborn (I don't know exactly how, I couldn't get it all) as a new Shiina.

I guess the only one who doesn't die is Shiina and Bungo+Satomi, since you can see them merged in a single Dragon on the last page of the last volume, and the son of the Mafia guy.

Tsurumaru dies killed by thives (He was already irradiated by an H-bomb anyways, you see him hairless and such) and Shiina's mother gets shooted. Sudou let himself die for starvation. I don't remember the others.

'd like to download the season 1 batch of Narutaru, now that I know a thing or two about it. But there's no discussions about it here, not long ones.

Someone give me the word. Is it any good?

Yes, definitely.

[Kotonoha]

I'd like to download the season 1 batch of Narutaru, now that I know a thing or two about it. But there's no discussions about it here, not long ones.

Someone give me the word. Is it any good?

If you already know and like the manga, probably, if no, probably not. The Narutaru anime basically just throws a bunch of weird and unresolved story elements at you without any conclusion at the end. The infamous last 3 episodes with their "mind-blowing" violence aren't really disturbing any more than your 08/15 splatter movie, Kitoh just thought it'd be fun to bring a character you hardly know be4 into the mix and let her kill some nasty kids. No identification, no real suspense.

As for Narutaru itself being disturbing, well, you can argue about that. To me, the end isn't anything more than Kitoh's personal settlement with the modern society. Reading up to vol 12, every reader should have noticed that this guy doesn't believe in a peaceful solution. Nearly _every_ conflict in this manga is ended with extreme violence. Narutaru basically represents the view of a very pessimistic person. If you think that's disturbing, well, then it might be.

[Wilcon]

It is disturbing that people want to know about series where little girl is stabbed to death.
:joke:

To me "dark" anime is just one genre. Sometimes I watch romantic series, then get tired of it and switch to more darker themes and after that maybe some mecha and so on...

If you want disturbing anime then watch Jin-Roh or Serial Experiments Lain, at least they were disturbing to me. (Both are licensed)
I dont like that kind of anime, i was just asking, cause i wanted to know what anime he was talking about.

[Kempis Curious]

Narutaru basically represents the view of a very pessimistic person. If you think that's disturbing, well, then it might be.

I agree with the good insight above, but I also think that it's disturbing because of that combined with the violence.

I've seen plenty of anime written by a pessimistic person, but they usually turn out boring for me since I'm not like that... Jin Ryo is a good example of that.

The violence alone doesn't disturb me too much anymore, see Fist of the North Star and try to hold back the giggles when someone's head explodes 100 liters of blood and guts ^_^.

My favorite disturbing anime is Key the Metal Idol (licensed). Dark as all get out with an intriguing storyline to boot.

I thought the Kenshin OVA cruel violence at the beginning was some of the worst I've ever seen in anime. :upset:

-k

BTW I thought the first couple of issues of the NaruTaru manga were not interesting enought to overcome the disturbing aspects, so I'm not watching the anime. :(

[Deralti]

:offtopic:*sigh*, soon these shows are to be called "sensitive crap". God bless adrenaline freaks, neh?:offtopic:



Due to previous things I've seen and played (SiN(game), Aliens Series, SiN(Anime Movie, which you should stay away from, it doesn't do the game any justice)), the shock factor of narutaru is significantly lower, but it still hit home more emotionally than to the gut. Gore and brutality isn't what attracts me to these sorts of shows, it's the emotional value of the characters. The "I'm a ruthless, heartless killer" sort of shows totally turn me off to this entire industry.

[K_R]

Stay away from Koroshiya, the anime and the manga. Just a fair warning, if you don't like disturbing stuff. It's just nasty.

But the Miike's 'Koroshiya 1' is OK?

[Oiseau]

Someone renamed the thread to "Stay away from Koroshiya". What does Koroshiya have to do with anything ? The whole thread is about NaruTaru and how disturbing it is.

And yes, it is, so get a second season out already. ^_^

[Keitaro]

Renamed thread to Narutaru disturbing Anime?!?

[Umbrae]

I have seen part of narutaru, and actualy I liked it. But I have the sence of humor to find a girl riped into 3 pices funny.

I can fully understand where the Azumanga Daioh = pokemon comes in. at first it kind of looks like a story about school kids that have monsters and fight. . . at first. although it holds true, that they are school kids, with cute (usualy) monsters, and they fight. what does not hold true is the light hartedness of pokemon / Azumanga Daioh or the comidy of Azumanga Daioh.

Basicly it is a more, shal we say realistic portrail of what these characters would act like forced into this situation.


For example thier is one girl bonded to a dragon that is trying to learn to fly. as they can see and feel every thing thier dragon does, she constatnly watched as the thing climbed up somthing tall then plumit to the ground. A fall that would kill a human. She then generates a whole host of phycological issues, and puts her dragon in a box in the closit, not to let it out for quite a while later. These "issues" even take her to the point of grabbing a gun from a member of the military and attempting suicide. only to be stoped as thier is not a chambered round, but as she is quickly shown the gun was loaded.

Overall it is a rather dark series. I would recomended it to my friends.

[Kamui4356]

Someone renamed the thread to "Stay away from Koroshiya". What does Koroshiya have to do with anything ? The whole thread is about NaruTaru and how disturbing it is.

And yes, it is, so get a second season out already. ^_^
Actually the first post was about Koroshiya, but the thread got hijacked by Narutaru. :)
Well to get on the main, if not original, topic; Narutaru was so disturbing because it first portrayed itself as a cute pokemonish anime. If that contrast wasn't there the anime wouldn't be nearly as disturbing. Also the realization that people who think like the characters in Narutaru do exist adds to the series' disturbing nature. Narutaru is a commentary on the darker elements of modern society. It hides that behind it's cute style and dragonets, but the message remains.

[TheOneManArmy]

It was easy that there was something disturbing about the series, it was banned in France and other contries and heavylli edited in others, that must be for something.

But I think it's alright to have such series, it put things more in perspective, we are too much used to see series in idealistic worlds where either only good people lives in it or bad people are just lame at beeing evil.


Not that many shows like that though.

Try something like Chrno Crusade or Full Metall Alchemist, they're a bit "safer":)

I'd be a bit carefull about saying that for FMA if I were you.

[DemonEye]

But the Miike's 'Koroshiya 1' is OK?

I forgot the "1" ok :P.

[Sylvanthious]

I would like to congratulate the original person who posted this thread on posting the most confusing thing I've seen. It took at least 5 posts down the thread before it seemed like anyone knew what the hell you were talking about.

[roguenoir]

Narutaru's opening is an exercise in dissonance, both with the disparity of the anime and the happiness of the opening and with the actual animation in the opening itself.

The series itself is shocking, is disturbing, is nasty, and isn't for everyone. Don't let the chibi opening fool you.


I love disturbing anime that starts out lighthearted and gives you the wrong impression initially. Classic example is Evangelion.. any other suggestions?

[goldenthal]

I love disturbing anime that starts out lighthearted and gives you the wrong impression initially. Classic example is Evangelion.. any other suggestions?

Haibane Renmei. It left me wondering about life and afterdeath.

[complich8]

Haibane Renmei. It left me wondering about life and afterdeath.
I dunno about that ....
for me, haibane started out cute but with kind of a melancholy air, and ended up happier, with acceptance of "we don't know where we come from or where we're going" and just living enjoying the moment. I won't say more for spoilers' sake, but maybe I just took something different from the flow of the mood in the series?

[Lambda]

I love disturbing anime that starts out lighthearted and gives you the wrong impression initially. Classic example is Evangelion.. any other suggestions?

I think Alien 9 and Now and Then, Here and There both fit well into that description. Gunbuster implements that kind of general structure perfectly, but doesn't apply it towards anything that can really be called disturbing.

[manpurse]

Heh. I love dark anime. <3 Boogiepop and the recently finished Kousetsu Hyaku Monogatari (aka, Hundred Stories) are both dark "vignette"-type tales with an really interesting interwoven storyline. Check it, y0. (I MISS HUNDRED STORIES!)

FMA has a rather gruesome opening. Besides that and later angst, it's fairly "safe." Nothing like that of Narutaru. :3

Narataru didn't disturb me with violence, it disturbed me with

THE A;LKSJDF!ERS WHO RAPED THE GIRL WITH A TEST TUBE! And the, "Here! Have some worms!" death that the ringleader got in the last episode. Oh, and the possible incest/sexual abuse undertones.

Besides that, it's one light-n-happy romp. :0

Another "light but dark" headtrip is RahXephon. Goodness knows, I love that show. <3

Oh! And Haibane Renmei was excellent. It gave me a WAFFy feeling at the end. The middle was pretty "claustrophobic"--that is, it was dark and possibly triggering. Good stuff. It's an excellent show.

Violinist of Hameln is dark! <3 It has melodramatic angst and depressing overtones and lots o' death. It didn't have a good enough budget to be gruesome. XD

[CelestiaLegends]

NaruTaru's one of those series thats strangely good, I would reccommend it if you could handle it...I'd even compare it to Onegai Teacher and Kanon; Not that they're anything alike but just something about them makes you like it.

[H times H]

It was easy that there was something disturbing about the series, it was banned in France and other contries and heavylli edited in others, that must be for something.

Those who, like me, check reviews on sites such as AnimeNfo may already know this. But just in case, for those who don't know yet, this anime was aired in a kid's channel in Japan.

I concur with most reviewers; it is a big "WTF".

[SomeName]

Those who, like me, check reviews on sites such as AnimeNfo may already know this. But just in case, for those who don't know yet, this anime was aired in a kid's channel in Japan.

Those poor kids... and their rich therapists.

[Lambda]

Those who, like me, check reviews on sites such as AnimeNfo may already know this. But just in case, for those who don't know yet, this anime was aired in a kid's channel in Japan.

No, it's just called "Kid's Station". That doesn't in this case mean it's aimed at kids.

[Worldestroyer]

Pissh.... I spent most of my time watching NaruTaru, laughing. It was great, and very funny. I don't understand you people and your weak ass stomachs. And to that Night Shift Nurse comment earlier in the thread, *ahem* i've seen all 10 (yes i know only 5 are sub'd) episodes, and i don't find it distgusting. Actually i find it rather funny. If you pat attention there are ALOT of funny lines. Anyways back to topic, it was not distgusting. I don't understand how you can think like that. NaruTaru was a great anime with a great plot, and interesting scenes. And BTW you should always go to a anime info site to see what kind of anime someting is. Usually they don't have spoliers. I would suggest going to www.animenewsnetwork.com (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com) or www.animenfo.com (http://www.animenfo.com). Also how could you call Lain a disturbing anime? yes it was dark, but disturbing? If you don't like disturbing things, pay more attention to what you download, check up on it's info before you decide to put your time and money towards it, and stop complaining.

[Wandering_Youth]

I just finished watching the entire anime and I could not eat dinner after watching all that. I was one of the people who thought this was a lighthearted anime base on the descriptions on Animenfo. Freaking Animenfo didn't bother tell of the rape and slaughtering that would happen later in the anime. :uhoh: However, this anime does reflect how some kids are experiencing life on the hard side so that was the main reason why I kept watching it. Ugh, I'm still trying to block out the scene where the "head" bully girl died. *shudders* :sad:

[Diedrupo]

I will admit that I started watching this show on the premise that it was really disturbing.

It was really disturbing, but it didn't really shock me (maybe because I was expecting stuff to happen). In fact, I felt kind of let down since the disturbing stuff only happens in a few episodes and the rest are actually feel-good types.

Narutaru is really excellent! Despite the lack of characterization, I would just chalk that up to time compression and the inability to cover such a large manga in a 13 ep anime series. I picked up the dark horse volumes and I really hope they will continue translating it despite the content that happens later on.

[LordBrian]

Exactly which ep would you say made you feel good? O_o

[GHDpro]

Those who, like me, check reviews on sites such as AnimeNfo may already know this. But just in case, for those who don't know yet, this anime was aired in a kid's channel in Japan.

I concur with most reviewers; it is a big "WTF".

[ sarcasm ]
...and airing at 0:30 at night or so, there would have been a lot of little kids watching it... :eyebrow:
[ /sarcasm ]

[marin]

Why is this our "official" NaruTaru thread? The first post isn't even about it!

[dreamless]

Yup, it's one of the darkest and most disturbing anime in recent times. Gotta love it ;)

[marin]

"One of" ?

Wait...

Is there anything that is *more* disturbing than NaruTaru?

[Shii]

Is there anything that is *more* disturbing than NaruTaru?
Azumanga Drifting Classroom?

[kai]

Haha...

I've heard of Night Shift Nurses, but thats not exactly an anime now is it (Hentai).

Hentai IS anime.

Anime is not a genre. It's a medium, just like live action is a medium.

Hentai is a genre within anime - anime porn. And as with live action porn, hentai runs the spectrum, from "lite/ecchi" (ex: Buttobi CPU/I Dream of Mimi) to "middle-of-the-road" (ex: Vanilla Serie's Campus, Masquerade, La Blue Girl/Lady Blue, Koihime) to hardcore (ex: the previously mentioned NSNurses, Shusaku, Isaku, etc.).

Kai

[kanazuchi]

haha, wow, I watched the first episode a while back and thought it was nothing but a kids show, guess I should start checking this one out next, sounds interesting now.

[kai]

"One of" ?

Wait...

Is there anything that is *more* disturbing than NaruTaru?


Love Hina. :eyebrow:

[Quarkboy]

Azumanga Drifting Classroom?

:topicoff: Sooooo true.

And narutaru is not just disturbing because of the events that occur, but because of the frightening realism of the people involved.

Oh, and if you think the anime is disturbing.... read the rest of the story from the manga (see this thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491) for summeries) Tsurumaru is kindly summerizing the volumes in a very detailed manner.

[Meier]

I cant believe the thread has gone this late without mention of one of the best series of all time which also happens to be supremely disturbing -- Now and Then, Here and There.

[dreamless]

Hentai IS anime.

Anime is not a genre. It's a medium, just like live action is a medium.

Hentai is a genre within anime - anime porn. And as with live action porn, hentai runs the spectrum, from "lite/ecchi" (ex: Buttobi CPU/I Dream of Mimi) to "middle-of-the-road" (ex: Vanilla Serie's Campus, Masquerade, La Blue Girl/Lady Blue, Koihime) to hardcore (ex: the previously mentioned NSNurses, Shusaku, Isaku, etc.).

Kai
and there are some great hentai anime that can be compared to Basic Instinct, very artistically done and have quite some depth.

I cant believe the thread has gone this late without mention of one of the best series of all time which also happens to be supremely disturbing -- Now and Then, Here and There.
Yup, NTHT is an awesome show, very dark and disturbing... my only complaint is the overly optimistic and hot-blooded hot-headed male protagonist... Narutaru has an overly optimistic protagonist too, but it's nothing compared to Shu's simply maddening optimism in NTHT. :twitch:

[Shii]

I cant believe the thread has gone this late without mention of...George Orwell is going to kick your ass for using a clichéd and useless introduction to make your desired point.

[Meier]

I'm going to continue not caring.

[Spooky-Electric]

I don't know if I should watch NaruTaru. How disturbing is it exactly? I've seen some pretty violent stuff like the Berserk manga. I don't want to watch it if it's going to make me feel all creeped out and depressed afterwards.

What is the appeal of this series exactly? Is the story good? Characters? Explain.

[TronDD]

It's got some pretty horrid violence, however you don't really see anything.

It's disturbing because of the portrail of human nature. Dispite the fantasy aspect of the show, it's very real. If real kids had what they do in the anime, you can be damn sure this stuff would happen.

[Spooky-Electric]

I think it's the fact that it's kids doing horrible things to each other that I might find especially disturbing. Because as I said before I've read some pretty violent manga and seen some pretty violent anime as well, but nothing I can think of that involved kids doing horrible things to each other.

Maybe if I watch an episode of Bottle Fairy or Azumanga Daioh after watching each episode of Narutaru I could handle it. :heh:

[marin]

If you really want to know, I think the two instances (one fatal) of rape with foreign and deadly objects are really what put the series at the top of the disturbing list.

[bunnykun]

Hey,

I just finished watching Narutaru, and man episode 11-13 was sick and how those kids are so damn evil, cruel, demented and mean.

Did Ozaki chan deserve what happened to her in episode 12-13?

I think all that group that did that to Hiro chan, deserve what they got, I LAUGHED to what happen to Ozaki...DIE.. Muwahaha

HAHA, what do u Think?

BTW.. is their a sequel or a 2nd season to Narutaru??


Jaa.

[Griffith]

In my opinion, yes, she and the others did deserve it. What they did to Hiro was horrible, and I feel she was justified in her actions. Unfortunately, a second season hasn't been announced, but I'd love it if there was one. If you want to know what happens after the events of the anime, I invite you to read the lengthy thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491&page=1) myself and many others have been posting on in the Manga forum.

[bunnykun]

In my opinion, yes, she and the others did deserve it. What they did to Hiro was horrible, and I feel she was justified in her actions. Unfortunately, a second season hasn't been announced, but I'd love it if there was one. If you want to know what happens after the events of the anime, I invite you to read the lengthy thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491&page=1) myself and many others have been posting on in the Manga forum.

Yeah, i read your thread, so there is no word on them making the continuation of episode 13?

So in the manga, Volume 7, is they continuation of episode 13, the follow up?
and there is now english except in japanese....Darn..

I really hope they make a 2nd season..

[ZeppelinJ0]

:shiver: I just finished this off, wow. Cruelty to the max, especially wanting to put the test-tube in her THEN KICK HER IN THE STOMACHE?!?! WHAT THE HELL?!?!

I donno if I could deal with a second season ;)

but I am kind of confused, what was the point of Hoshimaru. He never really DID anything later on, he just kind of looked at things.

[krusher]

I just finished watching this series...oh man this show is awesome

Can some manga reader explain the whole hoshimaru/shiinas true dragonet thing?

I hope theres a second season...

[durrem]

Can some manga reader explain the whole hoshimaru/shiinas true dragonet thing?

You might want to check out this (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491) thread over in the manga section. tsurumaru posts pleanty of spoilers there, or so I've heard.

[Kyuven]

i think a tad bit more disturbing than what the girl was doing to Hiro with the test tube was how Hiro's dragonet killed her...
lesson learned: don't piss off the quiet ones :heh:

EDIT: finished the series...excuse me while i cower in terror from every 6th grade girl in pigtails for the rest of my life...

[Dragoncat]

I also found that series disturbing. It just leaves some "quisy" feeling.
The main reason may be the initial atmosphere of the show that makes you (emotionally) expect something close to mahou-shoujo. Probably that mixing of genres makes people feel uneasy while watching such series.
And there's one more thing. It's the propaganda of immoralism that just doesn't get the "appropriate" negation (if any at all) in Narutaru (as it usually does in other animes). And as if to strengthen that feeling, the main heroine (Shiina) demonstrates stunning indifference to the fact that she murdered two people. And the second of those was her friend (as she had asserted) to boot! Even though both killings were "inadvertent", still the dragonet was acting answering Shiina's urges. It's just disgusting that she didn't seem to feel any guilt after that. Please compare her attitude to the murders committed by her dragonet with the reaction of Hiroko to the massacre performed by hers. That's the reason why not only the series, but also the main heroine disturbs me. Not speaking of the conditional "bad guys", the main heroine is way too hypocritical in her attitude to the events that take place in the series.

[Kyuven]

I also found that series disturbing. It just leaves some "quisy" feeling.
The main reason may be the initial atmosphere of the show that makes you (emotionally) expect something close to mahou-shoujo. Probably that mixing of genres makes people feel uneasy while watching such series.
And there's one more thing. It's the propaganda of immoralism that just doesn't get the "appropriate" negation (if any at all) in Narutaru (as it usually does in other animes). And as if to strengthen that feeling, the main heroine (Shiina) demonstrates stunning indifference to the fact that she murdered two people. And the second of those was her friend (as she had asserted) to boot! Even though both killings were "inadvertent", still the dragonet was acting answering Shiina's urges. It's just disgusting that she didn't seem to feel any guilt after that. Please compare her attitude to the murders committed by her dragonet with the reaction of Hiroko to the massacre performed by hers. That's the reason why not only the series, but also the main heroine disturbs me. Not speaking of the conditional "bad guys", the main heroine is way too hypocritical in her attitude to the events that take place in the series.
Hoshimaru is not Shiina's real dragonet, he's been acting independantly. He probably protects her because she takes care of him

[mantidor]

I just finished the series...yeah, it was very, very disturbing... but I have a lot of questions!


1. what are you talking about, DragonCat? she felt very gu¡lty from both murders as far as I could see, she even cried at the end!, I would read Kyuven's spoiler, but I read the first line and it was a major spoiler from the manga :hmm: so I stopped there, Could you clarify if the spoiler is from the manga or the anime the next time?, anyway IMO shiina was very chocked, but she dealt with things a lot better than, for example, akira, so she get over it. I still can't get why DragonCat said that...

2. Someone mention the "test tube" girl was Ozaki, am I missing something? I thought Ozaki was the girl with red socks that killed all the soldiers, and this girl was another one but with a very similar face, am I wrong?

3. the brother of this girl (the one that got half-beheaded) was the one who was flirting with Akira? :confused: he looked very similar...

4. Mio was bullied by this girl too? she had her face cut...

on a personal note: when the girls were raping hiro I was desiring them to be chopped off and tortured, but I couldn't stand the scene when hiro's dragonet kill the girl with its finger >.<; Im really going soft :heh:

[dreamless]

2. that girl with red socks who killed all the solders is Satomi Ozawa, the "test tube" girl is Sanzou Ozaki.

3. I don't think so...

Yeah I also kinda feel bad when that dragonet killed the girl slowly while she's crying "it hurts! I'm going to die!" but then at the same time I also kinda feel quite delighted watching her die the painful and horrible death... XD

[Ed Bear]

Yeah I also kinda feel bad when that dragonet killed the girl slowly while she's crying "it hurts! I'm going to die!" but then at the same time I also kinda feel quite delighted watching her die the painful and horrible death...

Just finished watching the series for the first time myself. The last three episodes were pretty extreme but had what I thought was a very smart message:

... moral superiority isn't given to you by virtue of being the victim.

Once she gets the power, the revenge she exacts is so over the top and horrible that its obvious to anyone that any sense of justice is gone, and that she's truly the monster now (shades of Columbine?). Hoshimaru did the only thing that could or should be done then - she had to be put down.

Another element of this is with the last of the tormentor-girls to die, the one who is slowly crushed to death. Even after she realizes she's going to die, she seems to be genuinely sorry for what they did, and keeps apologizing right to the end.

...at the end, she's really a better person than Hiro. Cruel and immature, sure, but I think the show makes it plain that there are things that go beyond that.

Smart series, but really not everyone's cup of tea. All the same the last three stuck with me for a couple of days after I finished watching them - that has to say something.

[dreamless]

well, personally I don't think there's any "moral superiority" involved. That last girl is just a very passive and timid girl. She didn't really bully Hiro, she just follows around without any courage to do anything about it (though she's clearly against the bullying). The way she acts just fits her personality, that she's just too weak to do anything but feel sorry all the time.

About Hiro's cruelty, let's just say power corrupts... this is what happens when immature kids got god-like power... well, I don't think even mature people can fare much better with this much of power at hand.

[Ed Bear]

well, personally I don't think there's any "moral superiority" involved. That last girl is just a very passive and timid girl. She didn't really bully Hiro, she just follows around without any courage to do anything about it (though she's clearly against the bullying). The way she acts just fits her personality, that she's just too weak to do anything but feel sorry all the time.

Point taken .

About Hiro's cruelty, let's just say power corrupts... this is what happens when immature kids got god-like power... well, I don't think even mature people can fare much better with this much of power at hand.

Right, but since this is a show about kids I think the immaturity is a given - the Dragonets are an acid test for their personalities, the power just takes away any limits on expressing them. The first fellow Hoshimarus kills turns out to be a Pol Pot wannabe, the girl from episode 10 is going down a different road entirely. Shiina (though she's more limited) is just kind of a blank slate, but certainly isn't inclined towards evil...

Even Akira, who's ultimately under worse pressure than Hiro, doesn't explode the same way that Hiro does - their conversation at Shiina's door highlites the difference between them.

The last girl can repent, but Hiro can't forgive - that's a failing on Hiro's part.

[mantidor]

Thanks for your answer ^_^. well, I liked this show a lot, I love the opning and hoshimaru is the cutest thing ever

and i agree with Ed Bear on his opinion, but...

why is akira under pressure?, she was the most annoying character IMO, she never did anything! just stay there muttering scared when people talk to her, what was her pressures exactly? I don't think the girl who bullied her in the school was terrible, and her parents love her, although IMO spoiled her a lot, and at the end she kill her father. That was so out of the blue! why the hell did she did that?

Another thing I don't understand is why Mio had her face cut, I suppose Ozaki broke the tube on her face :twitch: ? still is obvious it was her who hurt poor Mio... or did I miss something again?, god, my memory is the worst -_-'' If anyone an clarify this for me, please :) because I don't plan seeing the last episodes again anytime soon :heh:

[Ed Bear]

why is akira under pressure?



Well, I'm just taking it as read that Akira was subject to sexual abuse from her father for a very long time - honestly I didn't think the series communicated this very well until the last episode though. It came as kind of a surprise, but all the little bits of evidence do sort of add up that way - the strange conversation between her father and mother, the suggestion that she might be pregnant, her inappropriate response to (can't recall the name) the student who was kind to her, her suicidal tendencies, etc.


I really don't know about the bit with Mio - does anyone have any guesses?

[Sephon]

I guess I'm kinda late here, but I'm watching the series and I'm halfway through it, seems quite odd, but so far not to nutty. And I'm very prepared for the insane stuff you've all mentioned so I hope I won't be too affected when part 11-13 comes.

And I checked a site for info and here's what it said


Plot Summary: During her summer holiday at her grandparents house Tamai Shiina, a young and cheerful schoolgirl, meets a strange looking creature. They befriend each other and Shiina names it "Hoshimaru - The Round Star". When Shiina returns home efter the summer to go back to school she starts meeting other kids that also have befriended a strange creature like Hoshimaru. But she soon finds out that all these creatures and their masters are as friendly as Hoshimaru.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2870

I guess they didn't see much of the animé, since I've not seen any other creature who's as friendly as Hoshimaru. I like Shiina though, cool character

[Briareos]

And I checked a site for info and here's what it said
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2870

I guess they didn't see much of the animé, since I've not seen any other creature who's as friendly as Hoshimaru. I like Shiina though, cool characterI've seen that description before, or at least a close description. I think it was in an initial Dark Horse summary for the manga version of Narutaru (aka Shadow Star). Anyhow, they missed a key word. The line is supposed to read, "But she soon finds out that not all these creatures and their masters are as friendly as Hoshimaru."

[LordBrian]

Or maybe it was just foreshadowing, indicating that Hoshimaru is not all that it appears to be.

[tsurumaru]

Or maybe it was just foreshadowing, indicating that Hoshimaru is not all that it appears to be.

What could you possibally be getting at????? :p

[Sephon]

I finished the series yesterday and I have to say that I liked it.
Except the last episodes


Didn't the plot just turn around completely? First we had these kids fighting for the world and the other kids fighting to ruin the world and rebuild it with only linking-people.
Then suddenly there was this girl being abused and rubberbanded over to the dark side because she couldn't stand it anymore. Started killing everyone, it felt just so out of place.

I can understand if it was a few episodes that tried to show that it's not easy to be yourself when you possess such powers or something.
But to end the first season with this, didn't feel good.
I mean the last girl who was killed (or maybe she survived) was just brutal, she always tried to escape when they harassed the dragonet chick, but she was too weak-minded, and the she got slaughtered. I mean... Punshing of a leg, that was just brutal.

I'd rather end it with us knowing who Hoshimaru is and why he and Shiina were so important to the dragons (was Hoshimaru perhaps a son of a king dragon or something)
Not much was revieled in the first season, so I hope that the second season will hold more answers. And less of these out of context episodes. My only reasonble thought about these 2 episodes was that they where there for character developement, and to see that Shiina wasn't prepared to kill at all, but Hoshimaru sympathises for Shiina and thus can be counted on.

Just my cents, too spaced out ending.


Well, I'm off to download Hunter x Hunter now to see something totally different :)

[TronDD]

The story illustrates the dark side of human nature and the what different people can do if given almost invincible power. That's how the ending story of Hiro fits in. She was another example.

And there is no season 2.

[Goras]

I've finished re-watching narutaru and I got some questions...



1. In ep 1 we see a girl running in the beach with a flash light, who is she?

2. in the same ep, who was calling shiina? hoshimaru?

2. why dragons (big ones) are interested in shiina?

3. in the last ep, last scene, we see shiina walking and 3 girls call her, any clue who they are?



if anyone know this please answer, Thanks.

[Sephon]

Agreed

Yeah, good questions. At least the 3:d question is something we should've found out since Narutaru revolves around dragons.

And who is Hosimaru, why isn't there a link between Shiina and Hosimaru like all the rest of the dragonets? There has to be something special there, but we never got to know. :(

[Quarkboy]

I've finished re-watching narutaru and I got some questions...



1. In ep 1 we see a girl running in the beach with a flash light, who is she?

2. in the same ep, who was calling shiina? hoshimaru?

2. why dragons (big ones) are interested in shiina?

3. in the last ep, last scene, we see shiina walking and 3 girls call her, any clue who they are?



if anyone know this please answer, Thanks.

These are all excellent questions, and are answered eventually in the manga.
I will answer them for you, but be warned, these answers will completely spoil the entire manga if you read them (most of them are secrets not revealed until the very end), so read this ONLY if you have no intention of reading the manga.



1. This I am not too sure. The glowing figure looks a lot like the original form of the Otohime (the girl on the big dragon in episode one. For her true identity, see the answer to your questions #3). As for the girl running with a flashlight, one can only guess...
2. I presume you mean when she is drowning? That voice is Shiina's secondary personality/the consious manifestation of her true dragon-child's voice. Note that Hoshimaru is NOT Shiina's true dragon-child.
3. Two reasons: 1. Shiina is actually one of the "judges", whose dragon-child is the world itself. 2. The Otohime (the first big dragon you see) was Shiina's younger sister that died that Shiina doesn't know about.
4. They are simply Shiina's new friends at her new school, Banda Academy. And yes it's the same school that the stuck up girl goes to, after Hiro-chan's death/murder Shiina studies hard and get's into the good school.



If these make little sense, feel free to read the manga or the thread with manga summeries (previously mentioned in this thread), exaplaining these questions thouroughly would be a very long post.

[Quarkboy]

Agreed

Yeah, good questions. At least the 3:d question is something we should've found out since Narutaru revolves around dragons.

And who is Hosimaru, why isn't there a link between Shiina and Hosimaru like all the rest of the dragonets? There has to be something special there, but we never got to know. :(


Another good question, whose answer is a gigantic spoiler:



Hoshimaru is actually Tsurumaru's dragon child (look carefully at the opening and you might be able to guess this). So Tsurumaru can hear shiina's voice through Hoshimaru, but can't link directly to her. Make note: This means that it was Tsurumaru that really killed Hiro-chan... That doesn't mean that Shiina is dragon-less though, it's just that her dragon is... special (see previous post).

[Goras]

Wow!

Now I want to read the manga even more, just waiting for it to get released, i've readed up to vol 5.

More questions



1. So tsurumaru sended hoshimaru to met shiina intentionally?
2. what happened to shiina's true mother (she is not the lady who shiina goes to visit to show her the school grades, isnt she?)?
3. In the manga is there a proof of akira being abused?

[Melazoma]

Wow!

Now I want to read the manga even more, just waiting for it to get released, i've readed up to vol 5.

More questions



1. So tsurumaru sended hoshimaru to met shiina intentionally?
2. what happened to shiina's true mother (she is not the lady who shiina goes to visit to show her the school grades, isnt she?)?
3. In the manga is there a proof of akira being abused?


I can only answer one question, the second, and it's not much of a spoiler. Shiina's mother is the one that she visits at the campus of a research center/think tank, the one you see in the show.

[Quarkboy]

Wow!

Now I want to read the manga even more, just waiting for it to get released, i've readed up to vol 5.

More questions



1. So tsurumaru sended hoshimaru to met shiina intentionally?
2. what happened to shiina's true mother (she is not the lady who shiina goes to visit to show her the school grades, isnt she?)?
3. In the manga is there a proof of akira being abused?



Answers:


1. Actually, this is never made clear in the manga either. A decent guess is that Tsurumaru and Norio were researching the Otohime, and they somehow traced back sightings to that island. The fact that Tsurumaru saved Shiina was just good timing, maybe.
2. As stated before, that woman IS shiina's true mother.
3. Not so much proof, but conclusive circumstancial evidence. ("Maybe you were TOO close" as spoken by Akira's mother to her husband), implying sexual abuse.

[Trax]

Just finished watching Narutaru and was wondering if there was any new information regarding the second season. The first run obviously had alot of unanswered questions left.

[ChainLegacy]

It is the most disturbing anime I've ever seen, but that doesn't say much, since I've only seen one disturbing anime. I didn't think it was too freaky. Pretty good anime, though

[TronDD]

Just finished watching Narutaru and was wondering if there was any new information regarding the second season. The first run obviously had alot of unanswered questions left.

There is no second season. Never was.

Have to read the manga for the rest of the story.

[Trax]

Damn, that's a shame. Saw a thread about it and it was on animenfo aswell (although the link didn't work). I guess I might try to get hold of the manga, or the darkhorse version if that one is actually produced. Off to check the manga thread. :p

Well no wonder the ending left so many questions. No idea what's so special about Shiina, no idea what happened with Akira, no idea what happens with the baddy dragonet group, etc. Something struck me about the end though, I had the impression that Shiina incorporated a little of both Akira and Hiro into her. Apparently she got into that panda school (which Hiro wanted to get into) and her hairstyle was now kinda like Akira's.

[perth]

i just rewatched the series. forgot how twisted it gets.

then i remembered the manga goes on another season but will there ever be a second season cause i would really like to see the nuclear explosion and some of the other plot twists that i don't want to say because i forgot the spoier tag

[nubby]

It was scheduled for 2 seasons but it got such a low rating that they canned season 2.

[mantidor]

It was scheduled for 2 seasons but it got such a low rating that they canned season 2.
really? :sad: thats so bad....I supposed that midnight in the kids channel wasnt really the best spot, even for a series like this...

how about the DVDs? I have to asume the sold bad too :( what I shame, seems I have to read the manga, but its nowhere to be found (I dont live in the states or any place where its available, better say that before someone yells at me "buy the damn thing!")

[TronDD]

Well if you can't/won't buy the manga in Japanese or English, you can read the summaries in the NaruTaru manga thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=491) provided by Tsurumaru.

[Lord Raiden]

Word on the street is that if this gets licenced and brought to the states, there is a very good likelyhood that a second season WILL be made simply because of its US popularity. There's also similar rumors involving Star Ocean EX since it was also cut off early. I can't comment authoritatively on either of these as I don't have any numbers or direct information from the licensors or the studios to back this up, but given recent history, it's pretty safe bet to assume that this will be true. Heck, I can think of two other animes that this has happened to, although the specific names skip my mind at the moment. Probubly because it's so blasted late. But anywho, the best bet for a second season is if this gets licenced and goes over big in the states. SO pray for its licencing and subsequent popularity.

[hooliganj]

The Big O 2nd season and the Cowboy Bebop movie spring to mind as projects that probably wouldn't have happened if the shows hadn't done so well in the US. Maybe Angel Links as well. There were rumors of another season of Candidate for Goddess, but it never materialized.

I always thought Narutaru stopped where it did because going any further would have resulted in a drastically higher rating. I mean, the manga gets even more gorey, graphic and violent as it goes on, so they had to either edit the hell out of it, bump it to an adults-only slot, or stop making episodes.

[Lord Raiden]

hehe. Awe, that's a bummer. Narutaru was one of those shows where you really wanted to see it get worse for some sick, dimented reason. ;) Even if it is a gorier show, I'd still like to see a second season. I wanna see how it ends. :D

[Ombrenuit]

All I can say is wow. When considering this show, I read that is was going to be another Pokemon. I rolled my eyes and didn't even bother. However, you all seem to be hinting of a serious twist that seems to be one of the most shocking things you've seen ;) . Well, you've inspired some curiosity, and now I have to find out about this. :p

[TronDD]

All I can say is wow. When considering this show, I read that is was going to be another Pokemon. I rolled my eyes and didn't even bother. However, you all seem to be hinting of a serious twist that seems to be one of the most shocking things you've seen ;) . Well, you've inspired some curiosity, and now I have to find out about this. :p

Is that myth still out there? :)

It has to be the funniest and most backwords thing I've ever heard.

It'd be like Pokemon if the pokemon ate the children.

[Nine Devil]

Just finished watching it. Disturbing? Hell no those little bitches deserved it.

Btw Hoshimaru pwnz

He is fucking undeveloped yet. Wait till he gets the evolve!

[Quarkboy]

Just finished watching it. Disturbing? Hell no those little bitches deserved it.

Btw Hoshimaru pwnz

He is fucking undeveloped yet. Wait till he gets the evolve!

yeah, Shiina's dragonchild is really incredible once it's fully awakened...
wink... wink...

[Kyuven]

The Big O 2nd season and the Cowboy Bebop movie spring to mind as projects that probably wouldn't have happened if the shows hadn't done so well in the US. Maybe Angel Links as well. There were rumors of another season of Candidate for Goddess, but it never materialized.

I always thought Narutaru stopped where it did because going any further would have resulted in a drastically higher rating. I mean, the manga gets even more gorey, graphic and violent as it goes on, so they had to either edit the hell out of it, bump it to an adults-only slot, or stop making episodes.
Elfen Lied has renewed my faith in the possibility of a second season

[Equin0x]

I choose you Hoshimaru! :)

I really hope there is a second season, so much is left unexplained.

[Kyuven]

I choose you Hoshimaru! :)

I really hope there is a second season, so much is left unexplained.
the manga goes on for a LONG time after the anime ends

[MartAnimE]

I just finished watching this today... :twitch: This is the most disturbing anime I've ever seen... :twitch: mostly because this is a show you wouldn't expect to be disturbing... :twitch: I'm still in shock... :twitch: this is just... :twitch: so wrong... :twitch: so incredibly wrong... :twitch: by the end it looked like the creator just couldn't restrain his disturbing perverse ideas anymore and just released it all for the sake of being violently impressive... :twitch: I don't know if it would be ethical to reccomend this to anyone... :twitch:

Anyway (and twitches apart), I was willing to see more of it cuz 13 episodes really felt like rushed, they didn't bother explaining more about the relation between the dragonets and the kids. And I thought those kids with the weapons were going to play an important role at the end, but the last 3 episodes were mostly about that other girl being unbearably and repeatedly abused by other kids till the point of losing her mind and executing an horrible reckless revenge...
I've read all the previous posts so I guess the manga should explain it bether right? Now, if I liked it? Of course not... it's disturbing, grothesc and immoral... I like to think every sane person would think like me, I really hope so... But I definetly want to see more of it since I really can't forget about it after watching it till the end anyway, and I couldn't really understand what was going on...

[dreamless]

the manga goes on for a LONG time after the anime ends
the anime ends basically right in the middle of the manga...

I really hope they can make a second season of Narutaru, and Berserk too :)

[GustaveElazul]

I just finished Narutaru today and have to say it wast interesting and disturbing. Episode 12 was really messed up... :twitch:
Without spoiling anything I'll just say Ep13 left alot undone... no conclusion and alot of questions. I really hope they make another season.

[KoroshiyaX]

Manga readers... I need some confirmation:

For the Manga readers. I want to know one thing, is it true that Shiina dies later in the manga? I had read somewhere she gets cut in half or something. If it's true, what are the circumstances of her death, and does she become one of those higher beings?

[dreamless]

Manga readers... I need some confirmation:

For the Manga readers. I want to know one thing, is it true that Shiina dies later in the manga? I had read somewhere she gets cut in half or something. If it's true, what are the circumstances of her death, and does she become one of those higher beings?
as far as I remember, in the manga Shiina doesn't die, and Shiina doesn't ascend into a "higher being" (I think you mean dragon and otohime here?)

[Sudou-san]

Manga readers... I need some confirmation:

For the Manga readers. I want to know one thing, is it true that Shiina dies later in the manga? I had read somewhere she gets cut in half or something. If it's true, what are the circumstances of her death, and does she become one of those higher beings?

Shiina is accidently killed by an American warplane investigating the appearance of a dragon in volume 10 of the manga. Since she and her dragonchild are "special" she is however resurrected in volume 11.

[Quarkboy]

Shiina is accidently killed by an American warplane investigating the appearance of a dragon in volume 10 of the manga. Since she and her dragonchild are "special" she is however resurrected in volume 11.

I could just add that it might seem odd that a human was shot by an F-16. You can imagine what happened to poor Shiina... she was ripped to shreds. Tsurumaru collects her remains in a burlap sack. And you thought the anime was bad...

[Wang Hung Lo]

Just finished Narutaru a few minutes ago. Not sure why the lot of you are crying "OMGZ DISTURBED!!" You guys must really be sheltered or something.

Other than that, Hoshimaru, or the 'Star Man' as I like to call him, is the coolest fucking anime character ever. I want a plush.

[NeverRamza]

There's not a lot of anime out there that looks like Pokemon at a glance, tries to get personal with the characters, and then rape/kills them. Brutally at times.

[BonBon]

Little makes me as sad as to find out that there SHOULD be a second season for this wonderful anime, but there is not.

[DmonHiro]

I don't know about you...but during the revenge scenes in eps 12-13 I had the biggest grin on my face EVER. If it wasn't midnight I would have been yelling "Yeah!!!! Harder! Waste Them!! OH HELL YEAH!!!" Those bitches had it comming, i was waiting for that. Too bad they didn't show much in the anime, I would have liked to see all the kills in their full manga glory.

[White Manju Bun]

I skipped most of this thread since Im only half way through the series at the moment (the slow subbing of Bokurano led me to start watching this and Im enjoying it)

I remember reading something on this before Bokurano came out and its very misleading, epsc since the pic I saw was Shiina and Hoshimaru, I was like wtf...but after a while I figured I needed to feed my need for weird anime again so I decided to dl it. I have not read the manga so I dont know if it follows it or not, seems the Bokurano anime does and doesnt...but Im enjoying Narutaru so far ^^

[Mueti]

I finished this series recently. I can't say I find it particularly good but it certainly was interesting. The high point for me was Hoshimaru's empty goggle-eyed stare. :D
No, seriously, it was ok. The animation was sub-par. I knew that the atmosphere wouldn't stay the same as in the first episode before watching. And while not actually violent the last two episodes it climaxed at provided some very disturbing imagery and themes. Most of the characters were interesting but then the big dismerit of the anime kicks in - that only half of the story of the manga was animated. We never get to know what the dragonets are, why they are there, important character background is left out.
And I have to say that I'm interested too find out what'll happen next and what everything is/was about anyway, so I guess I'll pick up the manga after volume 6.

[incube]

I heard this anime is really disturbing and out of the ordinary... even "changed the way i'll see kids"... so i was wondering if it is good enough considering the risk ? xD

I would appreciate some info / spoilers if anyone feels like writing too.

[Echoes]

I actually just wrote a post about Narutaru in the "most revolting anime scene you've ever seen" thread, which should give you an idea of what kind of stuff you'll see in the anime. It's not messed up all the time, or even most of the time, but that makes those disturbing moments all the more powerful when then do show up.

Here are some spoilers for the disturbing scenes: (some plots spoilers, but mostly just the disgusting stuff)
You get to see a girl get forced to drink a glass of earth-worms and then vomit them up again. Later, the same girl is basically raped by her female classmates, when they forcefully insert a test-tube into her. The bullied girl takes revenge, basically retuning the favor in a much gruesomer manner. It is also implied that the bully has an incestuous relationship with her older brother.
Oh, and did I mention these girls are 12 years old?

It's pretty disturbing, though Hoshimaru is pure lols. I guess I should mention that some parts of the anime are actually pretty good, it's not all killer lolis and insanity.

[Zippicus]

I heard this anime is really disturbing and out of the ordinary... even "changed the way i'll see kids"... so i was wondering if it is good enough considering the risk ? xD

I would appreciate some info / spoilers if anyone feels like writing too.

This show isn't too bad, it has some messed up moments though. The one thing you should be aware of is that there is no conclusion at all, so if you don't mind seeing half of a story with major cliffhangers then it might be worth checking out.

[Chiibi]

Heh...NaruTaru...would you believe you could actually watch this not too long ago on digital cable on demand!? That's how I saw some of it. Yup, this show is disturbing and I made sure to watch it BEFORE eating...because I've heard the advice online. And the funny thing is, I didn't even see the last episodes. So my questions are: Just HOW far do the animators go with the test tube rape and worms thing? Is it detailed? Are there only like...sounds of it happening or silohuettes of the characters or do they actually go all out with it? Because if they show you everything, I definitely won't be able to handle THAT.:uhoh: Oh and um...did the kids have a specific reason for doing those terrible things to that girl or were they just simply evil? XD;

Another question: People say there are subtle hints of the serious themes that happen later on in the opening theme song alone. But even watching it, I couldn't figure it out. Could someone point out the specifics?:heh: That's such a twisted opening and ending for this show too btw. Way to throw you COMPLETELY off, eh? :D

[Echoes]

Heh...NaruTaru...would you believe you could actually watch this not too long ago on digital cable on demand!? That's how I saw some of it. Yup, this show is disturbing and I made sure to watch it BEFORE eating...because I've heard the advice online. And the funny thing is, I didn't even see the last episodes. So my questions are: Just HOW far do the animators go with the test tube rape and worms thing? Is it detailed? Are there only like...sounds of it happening or silohuettes of the characters or do they actually go all out with it? Because if they show you everything, I definitely won't be able to handle THAT.:uhoh: Oh and um...did the kids have a specific reason for doing those terrible things to that girl or were they just simply evil? XD;

Another question: People say there are subtle hints of the serious themes that happen later on in the opening theme song alone. But even watching it, I couldn't figure it out. Could someone point out the specifics?:heh: That's such a twisted opening and ending for this show too btw. Way to throw you COMPLETELY off, eh? :D

Let's see, I haven't really studied the opening or ending either, so I'm afraid I can't help you out there, but I can definitely answer your inquiries about the disturbing scenes. And yes, they do throw you off, right from the start. I mean, Hoshimaru is so darn funny-looking you'd expect the show to be about rainbows and lollipops.

The worm scene is quite explicit. They did not animate the worms before she drank the water, but I got the impression that was only to leave unsure as to what she actually drank. When she vomits them up later, you see them lying on the ground, still moving if I recall correctly. In the revenge scene, a large number of worms are forced down the bully's throat, though you don't see them enter her mouth or anything, the "tube" they enter through covers her entire face, so the vision is obscured. The sounds are pretty nasty as well. The test tube thing is not shown explicitly, they sometimes show the victim's face, other times the culprit's faces, but mostly they're basically just dark figures in the night due to "camera" distance. She screams and begs for mercy, which is quite disturbing, but you're never shown as much a panty shot visually. The girls pick on the girl because she gets exceptionally good grades, they force her to do bad on her tests, and eventually decide to punish her even when she does obey their demands. You could say they're just pure evil, I guess. >_<

I heard that they edited a lot of the manga's content for English releases, and even removed entire pages, I wonder if that could be the case for the broadcast you're speaking of as well? Of course, the manga is even worse from what I've heard.

[Chiibi]

Thanks for the info. I'll....probably steer clear since I'm quite squeamish about people eating disgusting things....:heh:

I heard that they edited a lot of the manga's content for English releases, and even removed entire pages, I wonder if that could be the case for the broadcast you're speaking of as well? Of course, the manga is even worse from what I've heard.

That's dumb...they should just wrap it in plastic if it's that bad. I agree with what someone else said-don't license it if you can't release the orginal version!:mad:

I'm not sure if the anime version I saw was edited or not. I really don't think it was. On Demand anime never seems to be because it's not like a kid can just flip through channels and see it. You have to order it. This is the same program that offers Elfen Lied and Gantz so....yeeeah.:heh:

As for Narutaru scenes that make me think it was unedited...

In episode four, I think it was, when Shiina eats too much on her birthday and runs off to be sick, the noises of her gagging are quite um....explicit. You even hear splashing and it was pretty gross to listen to. Same thing with Akira when she's in class and becomes ill and falls out of her chair next to it...that wasn't edited either. And the dialogue from the grey-haired kid was pretty disturbing too. Very twisted stuff....yup.

[incube]

Hmmm... i find Higurashi 100 times more disturbing than Narutaru. There dont show any of the disgusting parts and when the girl got raped by her classmates the only things they showed was their shadows and the girl saying "Nooo" "Ouch" "Ow!!"....

[Chiibi]

Well I can't watch Higurashi either. Only that and Narutaru have been the two anime that give me a bad feeling when I watch them. It's hard to explain....but it's like "I should turn this off....this is freaky....I'm feeling ill and I should turn this off NOW" apprehensive kind of feeling. However I think I've stuck with Narutaru for seven or eight episodes. Higurashi, I couldn't get past three.

But an anime doesn't have to show everything to be disturbing. Sometimes the subtle things leave a bigger impact, if you know what I mean.

[incube]

Yeah i know but in the case of Higurashi i found myself pushing forward in almost each episode cause of the disturbing things that happens... although there was an explanation behind them, the way everything is explained and showed was scary and sometimes disgusting.

But in the case of Narutaru, specifically in the case of the worms and the test tube, i found it somehow easy to watch and understand. This might sound harsh but kids beings bullied or girls being raped are things that happen quite frequently, at least in my country.

It isnt the same having a "fantasy" creature killing ppl and watching little girls cutting ppl into pieces or stabbing herself in the head....