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Sterling01
2008-07-17, 18:10
Thanks to 2ch I've come across this little gem and even though the title suggests otherwise it's not a H-manga.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/151/1216323228497av2.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1216323228497av2.jpg)
Title: オナニマスタ黑沢 (Masturbation Master Kurosawa)
Author: Ise Katsura
Artist: YOKO
Status: Completed at 4 volumes
Onani- means masturbation. And that's what this guy is good at. Every day after school, he sneaks into the mostly unused girls bathroom on the 3rd floor, and masturbates. Until one day when he's caught.....
yongshun
2008-07-17, 18:32
:eyebrow: What wont they make a comic about? I have to say strangest title I have ever seen that is not hentai.
Diedrupo
2008-07-21, 12:32
This manga reads like a parody of death note, so it's pretty hilarious. :)
There's even a Code Geass reference.
Fapnote is one of most awesome mangas I have read lately.
Masturbation, serious business.
Supah Em
2008-07-22, 20:11
wtf? just reading the title makes me want to check it out.
KickHopper
2008-07-22, 21:17
Haha I love this. Got the Death Note vibe right away.
Rikimtasu
2008-07-25, 07:12
A review is here (http://www.atalude.net/archives/2008/07/19/onani-master-kurosawa-ch-01-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%8A%E3%83%8B%E3%83%BC%E9%80%9A%E3%8 2%8A/),writen by Shin.
And look like Onani Master Kurosawa is YOKO last work as doujin,and he is going to draw manga later...
by the way,this fake OP rock!
WE6xAv-ZN2I
A review is here (http://www.atalude.net/archives/2008/07/19/onani-master-kurosawa-ch-01-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%8A%E3%83%8B%E3%83%BC%E9%80%9A%E3%8 2%8A/),writen by Shin.
And look like Onani Master Kurosawa is YOKO last work as doujin,and he is going to draw manga later...
by the way,this fake OP rock!
WE6xAv-ZN2I
I came.
It's pretty awesome, wish I could read more but I don't know japanese.
Anyway, good song.
KickHopper
2008-08-10, 01:57
A review is here (http://www.atalude.net/archives/2008/07/19/onani-master-kurosawa-ch-01-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%8A%E3%83%8B%E3%83%BC%E9%80%9A%E3%8 2%8A/),writen by Shin.
And look like Onani Master Kurosawa is YOKO last work as doujin,and he is going to draw manga later...
by the way,this fake OP rock!
WE6xAv-ZN2I
LOL @ the review. "Just as fapped." and "I'll take my wang out, and stroke it!" xD
Supah Em
2008-08-10, 08:30
That was quite a pleasant ending for an angsty 4 volumes. Katsura and YOKO's little gem definitely was a shocker for its well-played out story. The last part was quite a surprise for me considering that
Kurosawa was practically after one girl and to have another confession at the end gave me a smile.
A solid 8/10 for me.
irrelevance
2008-08-10, 10:18
Em, does anyone know how many chapters had been translated? I look around and it stopped at chapter 4 (right at the good part too >_<)
Supah Em
2008-08-10, 10:33
Its completed at 4 volumes(30 chapters). It doesnt stop at chapter 4, its just that hidoi translations has published scanlated ones only until 4.
IMHO the good parts start around the middle of the 3rd volume(where the drama gets intense and....err... sticky)
irrelevance
2008-08-22, 16:45
After a very long wait, Fapped Note chapter 5 had finally been translated...
They author sure knows how to put his/her references :heh:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll124/khoidang92/12.jpg
That expression is priceless :heh:
LOL, fapnote :heh:. I just read the seven translated chapters based on what the few people here said about it, and it's actually pretty good. The way most of the story is told from Kurosawa's cynical, solitudial perspective really brings this manga out. I also like the fact that Kurosawa's no hero, no good guy who saves the girl. Actually he seems like the type who looks down on everyone. I guess that what makes him kinda like Light.
I was surprised to see Kitahara act that way. The look in her eyes seemed more determined and fierceful when she was talking to Kurosawa. It'll be interesting how much Kitahara will continue to use Kurosawa for her revenge.
And exactly how many chapters is the story?
They author sure knows how to put his/her references :heh:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll124/khoidang92/12.jpgThat expression is priceless :heh:
Yeah, it really does remind me of Light :D.
War_Lord
2008-10-17, 13:29
Masturbation in a girls bathroom? I'm in...
I was surprised to see Kitahara act that way. The look in her eyes seemed more determined and fierceful when she was talking to Kurosawa. It'll be interesting how much Kitahara will continue to use Kurosawa for her revenge.
I wasn't surprised. Being subjected to such hellish bullying day in and day out would drive anyone up the wall.
Kitahara doesn't seem like the forceful type though, and probably only wants revenge. She could care less about Kurosawa's private habits (though that blushing face was cute :heh:).
I'm tempted to track down the raws since I want to see more of what happens...
Used Can
2008-10-17, 23:18
So, how does the manga end?
HayashiTakara
2008-10-18, 05:03
I'm speechless... really... speechless.... this is too unique beyond words, lol :heh:
kittybear
2008-10-18, 12:25
Fapping has never been this serious:heh: now i just have to track the raws down
kittybear
2008-10-18, 22:07
Finally finished reading the Manga.
Man i was surprised who he choose at the end and i want to beat the afro dude!!!!! for........(major spoiler)
Used Can
2008-10-18, 22:52
Why? He never did anything wrong. He was just a lucky otaku with an afro.
kittybear
2008-10-18, 22:55
Why? He never did anything wrong. He was just a lucky otaku with an afro.
Trust me read it... I know some people might not be pissed at him but i am. I could post the reason why but where's the fun in that:p.
evil|plushie
2008-10-19, 04:50
So what happens in the end?
kittybear
2008-10-19, 09:04
So what happens in the end?
RAGE
He confessed to that evil bitch, the girl with the shirt which he sprayed his c8m on. Since the other girl was taken by the afro dude thats why i hate him!!!!!!!
Used Can
2008-10-19, 12:04
Trust me read it... I know some people might not be pissed at him but i am. I could post the reason why but where's the fun in that:p.
I read a couple of days ago, and I don't see any reason to be angry at him.
He wasn't aware of Kurosawa's feelings for that girl. Additionally, that girl seemed to really like the otaku guy.
evil|plushie
2008-10-19, 12:31
When you say the other girl, are you talking about kitamura? The one who's constantly being bullied?
When you say the other girl, are you talking about kitamura? The one who's constantly being bullied?
No, he means the girl who will eventually be introduced whom Kurosawa will develop a crush on.
Sadly, Kitamura doesn't end up with Kurosawa (which sucks after all they went through together), but she does get some redemption by not being bullied anymore.
So why is he confessed to evil biatch?
This is .........................................an original one :heh:
From there, Men are scary :heh:
Akumetsu
2008-11-04, 02:58
No, he means the girl who will eventually be introduced whom Kurosawa will develop a crush on.
Sadly, Kitamura doesn't end up with Kurosawa (which sucks after all they went through together), but she does get some redemption by not being bullied anymore.
you mean magister takagawa?
CodeKyuubi
2008-11-04, 04:54
you mean magister takagawa?
Yes. Today i went through the RAWs even though I can't read Japanese (soon, my pretties, when I start signing up for classes at college...) but I pretty much got the basic gist. The pictures and expressions explain quite a bit.
Akumetsu
2008-11-04, 05:17
aww man thats sad that girl looked really desirable for kurosawa from my perspective. damit afro-guy.:p:upset::frustrated:
i will just have to wait and read furthur for why he didnt go for naitou kyoko or kishimoto erika.
i will just have to wait and read furthur for why he didnt go for naitou kyoko or kishimoto erika.
I haven't seen the raws, so obviously don't spoil me, but I would think that Takigawa struck him as being intelligent, which is thus far[in the first 9 chaps], his major critique in measuring people's worth.
Anyway, Kitamura is EVIL, clearly not as fragile as she seems. The Kurosawa/Takigawa moments were good, they make a good couple.
Akumetsu
2008-11-04, 13:52
skimmed through raw vol3 and vol4 and i must say its pretty painful. feel very sorry for kurosawa
the moral of the story is probably dont fap too much and get yourself a real girl...quick..
vergil22
2008-11-10, 14:01
So what happens in the end with kitahara, i didnt understand:D
CodeKyuubi
2008-11-10, 22:41
So what happens in the end with kitahara, i didnt understand:D
she goes psycho and slams a... um, woodcarving knife into her palm, and smiling maniacally, raises her arm at the bullies until Kurosawa grabs her arm and stops her. >:) She shoulda gone psycho a lot earlier and shown those losers some hell lol
vergil22
2008-11-11, 13:23
she goes psycho and slams a... um, woodcarving knife into her palm, and smiling maniacally, raises her arm at the bullies until Kurosawa grabs her arm and stops her. >:) She shoulda gone psycho a lot earlier and shown those losers some hell lol
sounds funny, is there sth else about her at the end???:heh:
sounds funny, is there sth else about her at the end???:heh:
It's...actually not funny at all :uhoh: She was all alone after Kurosawa confessed about his fapping to the entire class (and got his ass beat later), and the bullies continued to harass her till she had enough.
Afterwards she became a shut-in and didn't go to school. Kurosawa visited and eventually convinced her to go out and try making friends. Near the end Kurosawa is on a train, looks out the window and sees Kitahara standing at a nearby station in a school uniform.
While Kitahara's whole story was mostly tragic, there is a funny omake of her reuniting with everyone and snobbing the bully girl's effort to be friendly :heh:
I've begun this manga and... it's really fun :)
Fap note :heh:
The art looks sketches a little but the chara-design is nice. Kurosawa's expressions are priceless :D
Akumetsu
2008-11-12, 07:13
yes its sketchy because doujinshi mangakas dont have editors and assistants to support them unlike mainstream mangakas. i believe mainstream mangas start out like sketchy works until they are edited into better looking pieces of art then published. even the dialogues in the raws of this manga were handwritten not typed.
I see. Thanks for the explanation ;)
CodeKyuubi
2008-11-13, 00:08
I have to say that the sketchiness has a certain appeal that a cleaner version of Onani Master would have lacked.
MrTerrorist
2008-11-14, 12:20
The beautiful girls of Onani Master Kurosawa - Swimsuit edition
http://kei.iichan.net/oai/src/1221134840469.jpg
Thanks ! Nice healthy schoolgirls.
Akumetsu
2008-11-14, 18:02
sweet nice find there.
MrTerrorist
2008-11-15, 04:29
Thanks ! Nice healthy schoolgirls.
sweet nice find there.
Thanks guys. Sorry if there weren't any pictures of the rest of the girls.
Is this little piece by any chance completely out of left field and bizarre like "My Balls?" If it is, I'm willing to give this a try.
ReddyRedWolf
2008-11-15, 07:14
.L;2054511']Is this little piece by any chance completely out of left field and bizarre like "My Balls?" If it is, I'm willing to give this a try.
Though the plot is unique I wouldn't call it a comedy like My Balls.
While this guy does fap he's a little bit disturbed.
He fantasizes of raping his girl classmates. While he won't do it for real he does do some violation of females without touching them.
MrTerrorist
2008-11-15, 09:01
While this guy does fap he's a little bit disturbed.
He fantasizes of raping his girl classmates. While he won't do it for real he does do some violation of females without touching them.
While he might be a little disturbing in his 'activities', at least the series isn't call Goukan Master Kurosawa, then the plot would be very different and SO NSFE.
PS. Figure out what Goukan & NSFE means yourself.
2H-Dragon
2008-11-16, 13:36
Just read it. It's pretty interesting. You might be in for a shock how it actually is. I was expecting a crazy comedy, but it's more about human flaws. Pretty much about a failure of life, albeit a cool looking failure, being a hero of justice in his own way. While you may or may not agree with his ways.
Oh god ! I didn't know there were manga like this posted in the forums wow !
Its remind me "My Balls" a hilarious manga ^^ I think i will start this manga who looks good^^
just read the ending and
am I the only one think Sugawa look cute at the end?
so in the end, the main character is going out with Sugawa?
Akumetsu
2008-11-17, 07:34
yes he does although i wanted it to be takigawa
and his feeling develope rather quick too <_<
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3173/k723ot4.jpg
I love her expression somehow lol
MrTerrorist
2008-11-17, 10:07
So nobody bother (and cared) to know what Goukan means. Nevermind, i tell you guys next time. And trust me its something... well you see.
Akumetsu
2008-11-17, 17:09
oh i found it out myself lol and it is something though not the most pleasant.
it's something I actually enjoy watching on regular basis lol
MrTerrorist
2008-11-17, 23:49
oh i found it out myself lol and it is something though not the most pleasant.
FINALLY! Someone who manage to figure it out what it means. You deserve a cookie... if somebody could tell me how to do it:D
@Akumetsu
Yes the story would be very different and not very pleasant for some people if the main character did "things" differently.
I wish the last chapter is longer but oh, well......the more I read the last chapter, the more I like it :(
Sugawa Maiko is the best, love her blushing
Akumetsu
2008-11-19, 05:34
FINALLY! Someone who manage to figure it out what it means. You deserve a cookie... if somebody could tell me how to do it:D
@Akumetsu
Yes the story would be very different and not very pleasant for some people if the main character did "things" differently.
i did feel some sadism when he fantasize about goukan against sugawa. maybe its because i hate bullies and thought she deserved it. i thought he was really gonna goukan her.
MrTerrorist
2008-11-19, 06:50
So as i promised, i will tell all of you what goukan means:
Rape.
Rape. RAPE! Yeah, that's what i said, Rape. So Goukan means rape which if the manga plot and main character "activities" were different then the title would be called Goukan Master Kurosawa literally Rape Master Kurosawa. (Told ya it was something you shouldn't know and my condolence for those who didn't heed my warning and are now scared for life.) I can already tell how most of you "ahem" "coughsickcoughpervertcough" "ahem" would think how differently he would do to those girls. :mad: And i bet some of you Sicko's wish he really raped them for real instead masturbating about it. To tell you the truth, i prefer the latter while it may be disgusting, at least he's not hurting anyone for real and its all in his head.
Just watch chapter 1 : Lol he is a dependant masturbating man lol !
Chapter 2 : Lol the introducing ! Poor Kitahara
It looks like Raito version Crazy !Hope this fuc.... bit... will be punish hard !
Chapter 3 : Lol its really Raito crazy man !!! Ahah !(and the death euh fap note :p)
Chapter 6 : Too bad for him lol
Chapter 7 : Detective conan XD
Someone can give me a link for chapters 10 and till the end pls !
easy, google it, not that hard.
just read it again love the last chapter, can't get enough, ugh.....shame it never get publish properly.
can't get enough of Sugawa's red face....I enjoy it like Kurosawa :(
yes i use google or but there are still 9 chapters or less who is published !!! And in the fansub there is no longer this manga !!!
waiting suck, just found some fanart.....<_<
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4920/0323sugawaek5.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3019/633099mwu0.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1713/20080402ba6.gif
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/996/1089124myq0.jpg
mostly Sugawa though, I wonder why, tsundere power? lol
Missilebuster
2008-12-19, 05:45
where'd it go?! i dont know about anyone else but i cant find any chapters beyond 9
PeepingTom
2009-01-03, 13:37
well here it is, but it's raw
http://rs315.rapidshare.com/files/103821623/Onanie_Master_Kurosawa.zip
It's official... Kitahara is a bitch.
I thought Kyouko might have been interested in Kurosawa, but she seems like she can get interested in just about anybody's interests. Well, with her having the same hobby, i guess they have more to talk about at least.
this manga has been very interesting so far, if not disgusting (in a good way, though :heh:)...
chapter 11 gave me an odd feeling and I just don't want to imagine what the heck he is planning to do with his new target (but I think I sort of know...)
While Kitahara's whole story was mostly tragic, there is a funny omake of her reuniting with everyone and snobbing the bully girl's effort to be friendly :heh:
Eh, where can I find this omake?
ow chapter 10 - 11 - 12 already out ! i will watch them !
Just watch them !
Yeah Kitahara is sick with his face really ! but its not her fault she get bullied all the time ! and in the final put his anger on someone else , she got now Kurosawa ! Well Kurosawa is sick too with his masturbation .
Maybe in the end he'll end up with Kitahara XD
Na i think it will be with Takagawa .
Otame from The World Only Go Knows and this guy always compared to Light? I never remember Light masterbating in the girls bathroom.
IcExAlcHeMy
2009-02-15, 03:24
i lol'd at the code geass, detective conan, and deathnote references. a different type of manga that is being scanlated at last! now to wait for more chapters to come out and to resist looking at raws.
Missilebuster
2009-02-26, 09:43
Otame from The World Only Go Knows and this guy always compared to Light? I never remember Light masterbating in the girls bathroom.
obviously that isnt what's similar between them...
and i cant even find the next one in raw form...
Read the Chinese scans.
This is a must read, especially the later chapters, for someone who's introverted or shy. Really, the name is misleading. Later on the masturbation isn't even the important part.
If you're looking for comedy, stop after just as planned. Read it as a coming of age manga of a boy manning up and dealing with his problems face on.
Although I did feel his last romance was forced. Konata clone seemed much more suitable after all they've went through
teddychan
2009-04-19, 15:53
well who did kurosawa end up with huh the blond or the bullied ????
well who did kurosawa end up with huh the blond or the bullied ????
He ended up with the bully unfortunately, but I guess its still ok. I would of preferred Takigawa (blond girl) but she got with the afro idiot. Sugawa (the bully) is kind of cute in her own way too, so its still good nevertheless.
teddychan
2009-04-20, 05:47
so in short kurosawa ended up with the glass girl right ??? well whats with the kurosawa confession with the blond girl ??? i don't really understand cause i don't understand raw Y_Y the blond girl i mean the one that promises a novel that kurosawa will make and then she will read it so that girl ended up with the afro guy -SHOCK- am i RIGHT ????
Heres the situation, Kurosawa begins to like Takigawa but she in reality likes the afro guy. The afro guy also likes Takigawa and they eventually get together. This is the reason why she starts to talk to Kurosawa out of no where and they hang out a little afterwards. Kurosawa get piss off because of this, so he does you know what to both of them, ;) feeling betrayed of some sorts. He feels guilty later on about his actions thanks to Kitahara (glass girl) and confesses to the whole class about all of his crimes. Some people forgive him other people don't. Both the afro guy and Takigawa eventually forgive Kurosawa and they become friends again.
At some point towards the end Kurosawa confesses his love to Takigawa but since shes with the afro guy she rejects him. I'm not sure about this so please don't hold this against me but I think she says something like if this was another time or place maybe she would of fallen for him. Kurosawa later meets Sugawa (first victim of his actions and Kitahara's main bully) and I guess she starts to like him since hes changed quite a bit and she at some point forgives him too. They hang out together blah blah and in the finally she confesses her love and Kurosawa excepts. Happy end... yay!! :heh:
And about Kitahara, she gets a resolution too but she never really had any type of relationship with Kurosawa other than accomplices, so nothing for her I guess. Hope that clears some stuff up for you. :) oh and I think you might want to put that in spoiler tags.
teddychan
2009-04-22, 04:14
oh sorry cause i don't know how to put a spoiler tag sry :) well anyway thx for giving me a hint haha :)) don't know how to put i have no grudge. well thanks for giving me a spoiler hah :)) hate the scanlators they didn't finish this great manga Y_Y
Sol Falling
2009-04-22, 12:51
I'm enjoying this quite a bit currently but the whole 'coming of age' aspect many people keep bringing up worries me somewhat (from the perspective of someone avoiding the raws). There are a lot of aspects of the main character which resonate with the past or current me which, combined with the parody aspects to keep it from being too serious, brings a lot of value to the story. However, if Kurosawa ends up completely rejecting the 'isolation' aspect of his personality as some attempt on the part of the story to pass off a serious moral or meaning, then honestly I think it will come off as preachy and ruin it for me.
Some tension over that possibility is also making me anxious (impatient) for more chapters.
Anyway, one example of one of those aspects which resonates with me is Kurosawa's dark fantasies over Takagawa. As what seems to be a singular source of what he considers meaningful conversations, harbouring those kinds of feelings is kind of self-destructive, isn't it? Contradictory. It seems that the more Takagawa takes an natural interest in Kurosawa's thoughts and opinions, or even in him as a person, the stronger grows Kurosawa's desire to dominate and humiliate her, reducing her to a mere sex object (in his fantasies). I just sorta wanted to say that this reaction was something I actually at some point experienced. A kind of nihilism and lust which is kinda fascinating. Anybody else (identify with it, I mean)? But, well, yeah. I don't suppose the story intends to endorse it.
As for the why of that reaction, on some level of course its his daily nature. But more than that, the intensity, stems from an imbalance. On one hand, Kurosawa should value and rarify Takagawa as a source of 'meaningful' conversation. Notably, she takes initiative and is the one who engages him. On the other hand, however, her interest is natural. It is wide, which may be why she stumbled across him in the first place. As a result, it is clear yet not clear that her friendliness is not with him exclusively, that thier 'meaningful conversations' don't mean nearly as much to her as they do to him (well, subconciously or potentially or whatever). So there is a bit of an imbalance, and insecurity. This naturally encourages a relapse into what is safe and familiar, on some level a rejection of the current developments.
teddychan
2009-04-23, 08:40
okay so you saying that kurosawa only like takagawa because she's like a sex object ?? is that it ???
Just asking :) -smiles-
Chapter 13-17 :
Lol , too bad , Takigawa like the afro rofl . I though Kurosawa will end up with her but not .
Well , its weird lol but its the life :p
Proudleaf
2009-07-25, 01:26
Just letting everyone know that a very kind soul (http://faildoor.wordpress.com/) has picked up the remainder of the series and is translating it.
shaolinx
2009-07-25, 02:38
Just letting everyone know that a very kind soul (http://faildoor.wordpress.com/) has picked up the remainder of the series and is translating it.
Yup his speed is amazing!
Anyways, even though the manga is still engaging, I really dont like how they have approach the ending. The happy conclusion that is slowly building up at vol 3 and his fast U-turn to rightousness was not what I was expecting going into this.the evilness that kelpt me hooked is finally gone and all there is left is looking forward to the final chapter to a completion of another manga...
I guess I was hoping for some kind of epic performance at the end that will keep the manga memorable and not become "another one" in the list.:upset: Unless... if they do some kind of outrageous evil twist... which i doubt will happen *prays it does*:D
When I saw the title for this.... I was expecting something for some lulz, but seriously... Im shocked, sad, and happy (wtf?)
When he confessed that he did all the crimes... My heart was pounding, and I don't even know why lol. But seriously it pounded so hard when he saw Nagaoka and Takigawa together in the rain kissing... holycrap I did not find it amusing at all. He doesn't end up with Takigawa either (chapter 27 had my hopes up), though I haven't finished the manga yet so I don't know the details... Lol I feel super-dissapointed, 5cm/s style, and IT ISNT EVEN AS DRAMATIC
I'm so dissapointed in myself lol. Sigh never judge a book by its cover, as they say
the latest chapter is just a huge awesomeness coming from a doujin and so, probably one of the best drama moments i've ever seen
and the translator went in insane speed so, hope they will keep it up until the end :p
Anyone want to PM how Takigawa's and Kurosawa's last chat goes in Vol.4? Supposedly he confesses, but I'd like to know some details if possible.
Or put in spoiler tags, I don't mind. I wanna know what happens :D
Chapter 18-28
Finally he stopped his sick Fap lool
Well , he was courageous to tell them that he was the culpable .
He beared all thoses insults .
Takigawa forgave him . (Still surprised that she is with the afro guy , well ..)
So a relation begins with him and Sugawa .
Poor Kitara but seems that she killed or something like that thoses bitchs ?
Tornado Riku
2009-07-26, 18:37
I love Takigawa so much coz she's really cute though I hate her the same way coz she likes the afro otaku dude.. Disappointing..
AvianWing
2009-07-26, 18:57
Why hate on the afro dude?
Time and again, he has shown us how great of a character he is. He is empathetic, he is indiscriminate, and he's helpful. I would want a friend like him.
War_Lord
2009-07-26, 19:49
Why hate on the afro dude?
Time and again, he has shown us how great of a character he is. He is empathetic, he is indiscriminate, and he's helpful. I would want a friend like him.
Yeah, unfortunately all people care about are looks. Forgive the guy who faps in a girl's bathroom since he's handsome :rolleyes:. However, even I got irritated when it turned out Takigawa liked him instead of Kurosawa. So I guess the bias comes from the attatchment you have with the characters rather than just appearance.
Sai Feng
2009-07-26, 22:38
"Heh"
"Sugawa-san always has a scary face on in class, but you're actually pretty shy aren't you?"
That was my favorite part in chapter 28. Just love how he gave a little chuckle at her. As for Kitahara, wow what a way to go out. It's like some kind of warning to those bullies O_O
Tornado Riku
2009-07-27, 08:46
I love the flow the story. My heart beats really fast as I read it.
I don't hate the afro guy.. Indeed he has a good character, really, and he's a kind of friend that everyone should cherish and treasure with. I'm just disappointed because I thought it would be Takigawa and Kurosawa, it's too far from my expectations. But Nagaoka x Takigawa seems nice too. BTW, Takigawa worries so much for Kurosawa as a friend. I do wish Takigawa has feelings for him too..
ultramojones
2009-07-27, 12:33
Afro guy is a real man, he is the only one who can openly admit his pleasures in life and doesn't really care what other people think. Most other people would lie and and do stupid things that they don't like to get other people to like them. Plus Afro guy got a nice girl. *Gar Award* to Afro guy.
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That aside, I admit I liked the first few chapters of this manga better than the later, because I initially read it for comedy relief. Death Note references along with fapping, hence Fap Note. Yagami Light, the evil genius faps, I don't think it got any better than that.
Me , i expected more Kurosawa x Takigawa because they were nice together and had the same interests etc ... well , watch back the chapters when they were together . Sure , the afro guy is kind and can be a good friend .
Well chapter 29 :
I though Kitahara killed the 2 girls but instead she hurt his hands . Well , thoses girls feared a lot lol .Seems bit by bit , people will forgive Kurosawa .
AvianWing
2009-07-27, 20:46
Pretty good ending.
It's pretty funny how Kurosawa still faps. Of course, now his fapping is like the rest of the normal people. At home and away from the girl's bathroom.
Also, tsundere girl triumphs. Who would have thunk?
ugh, I'm still hung up on a Takigawa ending. Felt like tsundere was a constellation prize and even though she was remorseful about her bullying, she was still a menace in the beginning. Oh well, good end is still good end. One special chapter to go
Yeah , finally all people forgave him . Well , even though the people bullied Kitahara become nice its still unforgivable for whats they have done .
I guess ,its a good ending for Kitahara .
and Kurosawa x Sugawa ending .
ch0c0b0fr34k
2009-07-28, 16:58
Great ending! One of those rare ones well I feel satisfied with what I've read. It was real rushed, but I could understand that, with the series being over at 30 chapters.....I wouldn't have minded it going on further, haha. Seems everyone is happy again (still can't get over the afro-dude), Sugawa was awesome. Couldn't find the end picture posted in the 3rd page, but oh well.
shaolinx
2009-07-28, 20:10
Great ending! One of those rare ones well I feel satisfied with what I've read. It was real rushed, but I could understand that, with the series being over at 30 chapters.....I wouldn't have minded it going on further, haha. Seems everyone is happy again (still can't get over the afro-dude), Sugawa was awesome. Couldn't find the end picture posted in the 3rd page, but oh well.
boo! bad ending. wheres the blood guts and gore followed by an evil laughter? Wheres the epic-ness?? :frustrated:
Proudleaf
2009-07-28, 22:04
boo! bad ending. wheres the blood guts and gore followed by an evil laughter? Wheres the epic-ness?? :frustrated:
I'm not sure if this was meant to be read as sarcasm, but I'm going to argue against it anyways. :heh:
Neither Kurosawa, nor the series itself, was ever attempting to endorse vengeance. The beginning chapters, while parodying death note and making multiple anime/2ch references, always presented the consequences of Kurosawa's exploits in a serious manner. It may have been good fun at first sight, but I felt that the series turned to something darker and much more sobering pretty quickly. The bathroom stall served as a symbol for isolation, and it was the barrier that blocked Kurosawa from human interaction. It also kept him terribly introverted, and this introversion turned to a spitefulness that he directed towards everything around him – a spitefulness that was enhanced by Kitehara and her parallels with him. It is only by meeting his first love interest, Takegawa, that Kurosawa breaks from the shell; by witnessing the shear horror that he inflicted upon her he realizes the consequences of everything that he had done beforehand, and finally decides to make a change.
seiji_kun
2009-07-28, 23:00
I was pleasantly surprised to see it suddenly completely translated. Last time I read it I was on chapter 12 and these last 18 chapters certainly delivered. And while you do know that they like to stuff moral lessons in mangas, I can't say I ever imagined him to redeem himself to this extent, he just didn't seem the type that would confess. (seriously, who would irl when doing a stunt like that?)
I did thougth this manga wanted to send one beautiful message, that it's never to late to redeem yourself and that human interaction is something worth working for rather then just beeing a pessimist that isolates and looks down on everybody. Kind of reminded me of the NHK in some ways, at least the message it wanted to put out.
So in short, hilarious at start but then it heads to a more serious direction which does fit the series. A pure 10/10 cause of it unique-ness. Kurosawa's progress was marvelous to follow just loved that smile of his at the end which showed his progress so well. One of the better mangas I've read in a while if not ever.
Sakuyakun
2009-07-29, 00:26
One of the best manga I've read for awhile. The scanlator is pretty awesome, releasing almost 1 chapter each day.
AvianWing
2009-07-29, 01:04
Extra chapter was pretty nice. Sugawa certainly is having a transformation of her own. I am, however, not talking about the generic transformation that all tsundere go through, but her change in maturity.
So its the last chapter . Too bad .
Anyway , it was a good manga :) well sick for the fap etc ... but Kurosawa changed and you can see his development . Quite good . When he said the truth it was the best .
Well , Kurosawa x Sugawa its a good pairing after all .
"Shit , i totally missed .. Bitches .." ahah
I expected a kiss in the ends :( well , it was entertaining ^^
Oh seems that there is an after ?
Tornado Riku
2009-07-30, 08:24
I love it! I like the story overall, from the start till the end. I didn't expect that it will be Kurosawa x Sugawa! It's a pretty good pairing after all! I learned too much and I like it a lot! This will be the one of my top and favorites! (the same level to Toradora)
shaolinx
2009-07-30, 09:34
I'm not sure if this was meant to be read as sarcasm, but I'm going to argue against it anyways. :heh:
Neither Kurosawa, nor the series itself, was ever attempting to endorse vengeance. The beginning chapters, while parodying death note and making multiple anime/2ch references, always presented the consequences of Kurosawa's exploits in a serious manner. It may have been good fun at first sight, but I felt that the series turned to something darker and much more sobering pretty quickly. The bathroom stall served as a symbol for isolation, and it was the barrier that blocked Kurosawa from human interaction. It also kept him terribly introverted, and this introversion turned to a spitefulness that he directed towards everything around him – a spitefulness that was enhanced by Kitehara and her parallels with him. It is only by meeting his first love interest, Takegawa, that Kurosawa breaks from the shell; by witnessing the shear horror that he inflicted upon her he realizes the consequences of everything that he had done beforehand, and finally decides to make a change.
Ok I take it back. The ending was decent... I felt they changed him too fast that its NOT realistic at all. Who would actually believe that anyone like that would be able to confess THAT sort crime in front of everyone... Thats just suicidal.
Proudleaf
2009-07-30, 14:29
Ok I take it back. The ending was decent... I felt they changed him too fast that its NOT realistic at all. Who would actually believe that anyone like that would be able to confess THAT sort crime in front of everyone... Thats just suicidal.
Well, it's not like his change was all that sudden. Look at the chapters where he first starts to hang out with Takegawa; the guy's face transforms from the sinister and brooding countenance to a much lighter and friendlier look. Takegawa helps change Kurosawa, just as Kurosawa eventually helps change Kitehara. There's nothing really sudden about it at all.
As for the confession, is it really all that hard to believe? He ended up inflicting a horrible crime on Takegawa, and then was suddenly overcome with utter guilt as soon as he realized what he had done. And if you remember when he saw the picture that she made, he also made a realization about himself: he wanted the relationships seen in the picture to stay – he wanted to be with everyone again. Add these two huge incentives, plus Kurosawa's own courage, and I can see why he'd want to confess.
Plus, one of the points of the manga is that a person can overcome their fears, anxieties, or social aloofness simply by taking a stand and forming relationships with other people. The whole point of the manga would be lost if Kurosawa suddenly decided not to admit his crimes.
shaolinx
2009-07-30, 14:59
Well, it's not like his change was all that sudden. Look at the chapters where he first starts to hang out with Takegawa; the guy's face transforms from the sinister and brooding countenance to a much lighter and friendlier look. Takegawa helps change Kurosawa, just as Kurosawa eventually helps change Kitehara. There's nothing really sudden about it at all.
As for the confession, is it really all that hard to believe? He ended up inflicting a horrible crime on Takegawa, and then was suddenly overcome with utter guilt as soon as he realized what he had done. And if you remember when he saw the picture that she made, he also made a realization about himself: he wanted the relationships seen in the picture to stay – he wanted to be with everyone again. Add these two huge incentives, plus Kurosawa's own courage, and I can see why he'd want to confess.
Plus, one of the points of the manga is that a person can overcome their fears, anxieties, or social aloofness simply by taking a stand and forming relationships with other people. The whole point of the manga would be lost if Kurosawa suddenly decided not to admit his crimes.
No no, the "point" of the manga, as you said(the overcoming of fears,etc), ONLY arise AFTER he started to change. Thus, if he did not confess, the theme of the manga would be the same as it was in the beginning, SO nothing would have been lost. The series would then be stuck with the whole "evil from lust/vengeance" theme. which is fairly entertaining if done right :D
Proudleaf
2009-07-30, 16:17
No no, the "point" of the manga, as you said(the overcoming of fears,etc), ONLY arise AFTER he started to change. Thus, if he did not confess, the theme of the manga would be the same as it was in the beginning, SO nothing would have been lost. The series would then be stuck with the whole "evil from lust/vengeance" theme. which is fairly entertaining if done right :D
It's not the whole point, but it is one of the points that the manga tries to come across with its readers. Like I said in my first reply, the manga was also criticizing vengeance and the hollow satisfaction that it brings right from the beginning. There was plenty of humor involved to keep the story interesting, but there were always serious consequences for the actions of Kurosawa and Kitehara. As the story progressed and as Kurosawa became more in love with Takegawa, he became further separated from Kitehara's obsession with vengeance. Take a look at the amusement park chapters if your still not convinced.
Kurosawa's continual development just shows how dynamic his character is. If the series never questioned the reasons for seeking vengeance, then we would have never seen the real reason why Kurosawa was such an aloof individual: he simply wanted to be loved. This is good storytelling, as it shows multiple sides for both the characters and the issues the story tries to address, rather than simply going with something flat and shallow and making Kurosawa some sort of Higurashi-inspired maniac.
I love this manga, somehow. It's a got a weird premise to start off with, but that's what made me like this series in the first place, for daring to move away from the mainstream norm. The doujin-ish feeling also complemented the story told.
Also, a request for fellow readers: Can anyone who's more familiar with the series come up with a list of character guide with accompanying pictures? I realised that this manga had a lot of potential for fanfiction(mind. gutter. out.), and it'd make things easier for writers to have a clearer idea of the side characters to use.
Well , a trip with Nagaoka , Takagiwa , Pizza-tan , Kitahara and Kurosawa without Sugawa ow .... in my opinion its not very interesting without her ... well , Kitahara showed somes emotions but that's all . I excepted a trip or the date with Sugawa .
And " To begin with, even though we’ve been going out for five months, we haven’t even kissed or so much as held hands yet." omg they didn't pass the first step ...
"If things continue on like this, I won’t ever be able to ask to touch those voluptuous boobs that make me drool when I start thinking about them " here he comes the pervert :p
"From the way things are looking, it appears that this trip is not going to end up a happy trip." lol
Oh come on 5 months ... what the hell do you doing ...
Maybe they'll break up and Takigawa with the afro guy too . Then comes Kurosawa x Takigawa lol
^ There's a sequel?
Nvm I just saw it, is this After Story in novel form? As in light novel form?
yeah, there is. Though its not in manga material anymore. It takes 2 years after the the school trip. Emergency exit is still translating it (currently in part 1- 75%)
here's the link http://faildoor.wordpress.com/
^ There's a sequel?
It was a small little omake if you want to call it, but all text and no pics. It use to be up on http://neetsha.com, but I don't see it anymore...
Yeah , finally all people forgave him . Well , even though the people bullied Kitahara become nice its still unforgivable for whats they have done .
I guess ,its a good ending for Kitahara .
and Kurosawa x Sugawa ending .
Well, to be fair, what he did to the girls was pretty much even more unforgiveable than what they did in retaliation.
But hey, at least he made up with his first love and buried the hatchet with one of his nemisis and miraculously entered a relationship with her. Kakeru's pretty lucky in this case.
I actually would have preferred they end it with the doujin. I liked the pairing despite what happened with the blonde girl was very disappointing. You can't say no to a tsundere, especially when she's like a punk. :)
Well hopefully the relationships remain same as it is at the end of all of this, only that there's development.
And it kind of sucks it's gone to novel format. First time I see something with graphics turn into plain text, it's usually the opposite.
Spectrum
2009-08-08, 15:21
Man.
I was linked this in IRC last night (this morning...we just kept going to read it all in real time and react) by someone as a joke who hadn't read it either.
And
we
could
not
stop
reading.
Very, very good. Surprisingly so.
Extra chapter was pretty nice. Sugawa certainly is having a transformation of her own. I am, however, not talking about the generic transformation that all tsundere go through, but her change in maturity.
Yes, this.
Everyone who's railing against Sugawa needs to keep in mind that everyone is growing up and maturing. Even she mellows quite a bit and realizes what she did was wrong back then.
If we can forgive Kurosawa/praise his development, why not hers as well?
And it kind of sucks it's gone to novel format. First time I see something with graphics turn into plain text, it's usually the opposite.
From my understanding, it started as a web novel, then was turned into a doujin manga, now it's going to get redone as a real novel.
Just finished reading the end of the scans the other day and now I'm hearing that a novel is being written, sweet. :D The same guy that finished the scans is also translating the novel and is posting it up in his site (Sorry if its been mention but I didn't know). By the way I also heard that some sound episodes of the manga were being produced. I listened to the first episode and I think some of the voices match some of the characters pretty well, especially Kurosawa and Kitahara. Will definitely continue to listen to the rest.
For the sound episodes you can find it here: http://www.onamas.net/
Wow, that site looks friggin awesome. The pic feels like a harem for our fap master. ;)
I would literally scream for joy if they make an anime out of this down the line.
Well for now the sound episodes and the novel are enough. An anime will have to wait later.
Wow good site . I like the pics ^^
Yeah , an anime would be great :)
It'd be pretty weird to see it anime though, especially his fantasies. They'll pretty much borderline on hentai now, won't they?
It'd be pretty weird to see it anime though, especially his fantasies. They'll pretty much borderline on hentai now, won't they?
meh~, Ikkitousen had censored sex scenes too
so this one shouldn't be a problem even if they animate it :heh:
Not only Ikkitousen , plenty anime had censored sex :)
zeremonio
2009-08-11, 05:57
it's too short if you wanna make it into an anime
maybe an ova or movie should do it
the story is great eventough the fap is kontroversial
DragoZERO
2009-08-12, 15:30
I just read this one. It was awesome. Talk about a well rounded story too!
I really had no idea where the story was going most of the time and there were times where I knew what was going to happen next - like when we learned that "Afro Man" got a girlfriend - I knew who it was and was in shock. Really great manga, a real underdog.
fallschirmjager
2009-08-12, 16:33
Damn it! I just finished it and now I feel disappointed because there's no more to read... Well there is the novel I suppose.
Absolutely loved this manga; really had a good message in it.
I didn't mind Kurosawa ending up with Sugawa; I too thought she looked really cute. I had a very good laugh when during Cram Classes Sugawa says if he flaps to her she'd kill him.
I have a couple of questions/requests:
Would anyone happen to have all the scanlated OMK chapters uploaded somehere where I could download? I simply read the manga online and it wasn't until about chapter nine that I really started liking it and thought I should have been saving the images as I went along.
Secondly where would one be able to buy this manga? I'd really like to support the author and own this series; I see a little bit of myself in Kurosawa and I've taken his outlook on punishment to heart and I'd love to own the series.
Would anyone happen to have all the scanlated OMK chapters uploaded somehere where I could download?
They're available on MangaTraders.com
Does anyone have the background info on this manga? The author?
From the art, I would've guessed that it was an online self-published work.
But the fact that it has volumes suggests otherwise.
Was this not published in magazines and only in books?
That's a rarity.
I know that in the beginning it was a doujin .
Well you should check this site http://faildoor.wordpress.com/
The author is Katsura Ise .
fallschirmjager
2009-08-13, 05:11
They're available on MangaTraders.com
Ah cheers, mate.
Diedrupo
2009-08-13, 13:50
just finished reading all of it last night as well, i am totally floored by just how damn good it is.
anyone know where i can buy the actual doujinshi?
Ow , Takigawa and the afro guy don't fit well anymore . All was acting like their enjoying this trip wow . AND OMG , seems that Takigawa will coming back to Kurosawa . AAAAh , i feel the end for Sugawa x Kurosawa .... but damn , Kurosawa is dumb . "FAIL" ahah he said it herself . A souvenir ? then kiss her deeply if you are a guy !
Ow , Takigawa and the afro guy don't fit well anymore . All was acting like their enjoying this trip wow . AND OMG , seems that Takigawa will coming back to Kurosawa . AAAAh , i feel the end for Sugawa x Kurosawa .... but damn , Kurosawa is dumb . "FAIL" ahah he said it herself . A souvenir ? then kiss her deeply if you are a guy !
I agree, Sugawa x Kurosawa are still at what grade school level regarding their relationship? That's kinda sad considering how much he whacks his pud...
fallschirmjager
2009-08-14, 06:53
I have a feeling Kurosawa won't take Takigawa back so readily. He really does like Sugawa at the moment - he admited he had the same feelings for her as he did for Takigawa in Middle School.
I kind of see the story going off in a way that the characters go off on their own ways again; Kurosawa pursues being an author to win the bet he placed with Takigawa who in turn goes off to be a famous designer.
This is just my theory but Kurosawa will publish a book about his own experiences (maybe less the fapping...) that classes as Takigawa's sweet and cliched love story. Takigawa will turn up after the book's launch having read it and say he won the bet.
Then it'll be KurosawaxTakigawa; the end. Then I'll have to change my signature to say "We can't turn back time. But we can time skip and end up together then."
or something like that.
Yeah i hope they won't change the pairing or it'll suck . And come on Kurosawa and Sugawa ! Let's pass the first step pls .
Diedrupo
2009-08-14, 12:15
I seriously doubt Kurosawa and Takigawa will hook up again.
I mean come on, how realistic is it that people's first loves ever get back together?
Kurosawa and Sugawa may not last but I don't think the story will show the end of their relationship either. After all, these are just grade school/high school relationships. They're experience builders, not permanent.
I do think that Takigawa and Nagaoka will break up, and you know what, that's just normal. It is their first relationship after all, and it is not bound to last.
I know this is a story and it is fantasy and the author could do whatever he wants, but given how the story has turned out so far, I think he is taking a more realistic approach.
DragoZERO
2009-08-14, 14:37
You do know its only 31 chapters long, right? As in, the story is finished. It sounds like you're waiting for the next chapter to be released.
The author did a omake if you want to call it called "After the Juvenile". It's all in text and suppose to take place 2 years after the end of the manga. The same guy who scanlated the manga is translating this. According to his site he's about 25% done with the second part...
http://faildoor.wordpress.com/
I guess it's a preview of sort to the novel re-write up for this manga that's gonna be out soon...
fallschirmjager
2009-08-14, 18:21
The author did a omake if you want to call it called "After the Juvenile". It's all in text and suppose to take place 2 years after the end of the manga.
I'm pretty sure it was two years after the class trip in middle school. So they're all in their second year of high school at the start of After the Juvenile".
Which would be five months after the end of the manga since:
Kurosawa states he and Sugawa had been dating for five months.
Diedrupo
2009-08-14, 23:27
You do know its only 31 chapters long, right? As in, the story is finished. It sounds like you're waiting for the next chapter to be released.
The author is also working on a revised novel for actual print publication. It might contain more than what's been released.
fallschirmjager
2009-08-15, 00:52
Another update has been put up of After the Juvenile Part Two.
Spectrum
2009-08-15, 01:32
Another update has been put up of After the Juvenile Part Two.
Nice, thanks.
Education of Kurosawa!
Baaaaaka, you have to consider the other person's feelings more closely. ;)
So they talks together , and Takigawa admit that was Kurosawa's fault yeah .
“That’s right. This trip may not have had anything to do with Sugawa-san, but you’ve got to tell her about important things like this beforehand. And not just the night before!” +1 Takigawa
“Ah, geez. If it’s like this, then no matter how much time passes, I won’t even be able to hold hands, much less even get a kiss…” Kurosawa , you just realized it ?
Seems that Takigawa always care about the afro guy so this pairing will keep up . Its just a moment critic for a couple .
Kurosawa , now , i hope you know what to do with Sugawa .
fallschirmjager
2009-08-15, 06:28
Seems that Takigawa always care about the afro guy so this pairing will keep up . Its just a moment critic for a couple .
Kurosawa , now , i hope you know what to do with Sugawa .
I don't know. I think Takigawa and Nagaoka will break up because of the distance that will come between them when they go to university.
But the situation of Kurosawa and Sugawa is the hardest to contemplate. Will she forgive him or is he destined to make love with his hand for the rest of his life?
I'm still hoping we see an ending where Takigawa and Kurosawa meet up in the future when his book is released and she tells him he won the bet.
I was dumbfounded when Kurosawa realized Sugawa felt left out. He should have known that from the start since he himself just experienced that. Oh well, he's only human. The translator is on beast mode and wants to finish translating part 2 before the week ends and I'm very grateful for that :D
fallschirmjager
2009-08-15, 06:55
Do we know how many parts there actually are? I'm getting kind of worried we won't see a definite ending until the proper novel is out.
Diedrupo
2009-08-15, 18:27
I was dumbfounded when Kurosawa realized Sugawa felt left out. He should have known that from the start since he himself just experienced that. Oh well, he's only human. The translator is on beast mode and wants to finish translating part 2 before the week ends and I'm very grateful for that :D
It didn't shock me that much. These are high school kids we are dealing with. They're bound to make easy relationship mistakes and they usually have to live and learn from it.
fallschirmjager
2009-08-15, 18:31
It didn't shock me that much. These are high school kids we are dealing with. They're bound to make easy relationship mistakes and they usually have to live and learn from it.
Exactly. It's easy for us as an audience to watch from the sidelines where we can read each party's thoughts and motivations and say that the character is doing something wrong.
In the relationship between Kurosawa and Takigawa I've seen a lot of how my first serious relationship started in Secondary College (high school to most people) and I have to sit back and laugh when I realized I made the same mistakes as Kurosawa in waiting too long and losing her to someone else or misreading emotions.
Long story short I got the girl in the end and we were together for three years before we split up to pursue our futures much like: Takigawa and Nagaoka may do now.
This manga surprised me alot. I always thought he would end up with Takigawa but when I saw her and the afro guy, I was like woaaah...time to go back read the manga again and see their relationship develop, since I never thought she would hook up with the afro guy since he was...you know...stupid, dumb and ugly and pretty much I ignored him. It was a good twist but I still get the feeling she liked Kurosawa as well so their relationship most likely won't last, but maybe that is just wishful thinking, anyway, glad Kurosawa changed his ways in the end and still got hooked up with a girl, happy ending at least.
Maybe I was inconsiderate in my previous post. I blame my lack of experience. Anywhoo~
I guess that's it... it was short but still a good read. I can't help but to feel somewhat trolled though.
Maybe I was inconsiderate in my previous post. I blame my lack of experience. Anywhoo~
I guess that's it... it was short but still a good read. I can't help but to feel somewhat trolled though.
maybe because Kurosawa and Sugawa didn't kiss at the end and they only just held hands
and maybe because Takigawa and Nagaoka's problem isn't over yet :heh:
fallschirmjager
2009-08-17, 05:32
I hope we see more of this story.
Well , the trip is over . Kuro wanted to give the Pizza's email to Kitahara who seems she didn't care lol .
“In just two days, your face has become pretty damn pathetic, hasn’t it? You masturbating son of a bitch!” aaah the Tsundere is back :)
Finally , a good start for the couple begin . A summer vacation and they hold theirs hand omg it was the first step ...
Yeah , it was short . Hope for more .
I felt pretty damn trolled at the end because i expected Kitahara to be the girl he would get with after all they've been through but it was still a damn good ending to an amazing story.
I always thought Kurosawa would end up with Takigawa after that library scene when they hit it off so nicely. They look so nice together, like they could talk about anything under the sun.
I'm the type that conforms to canon as much as possible though, so I'm really hoping that either Takigawa really ends up with Kurosawa in the end, or Katsura would have to provide us with more KurosawaxSugawa and TakigawaxNagaoka, lest I tear myself apart from the rampart KuroTaki shipping that'd look so perfect and yet never come true. ):
kenjiharima
2009-08-18, 09:51
Been reading this casually. An interesting manga, will look forward to the developments.
Diedrupo
2009-08-18, 13:06
I always thought Kurosawa would end up with Takigawa after that library scene when they hit it off so nicely. They look so nice together, like they could talk about anything under the sun.
I'm the type that conforms to canon as much as possible though, so I'm really hoping that either Takigawa really ends up with Kurosawa in the end, or Katsura would have to provide us with more KurosawaxSugawa and TakigawaxNagaoka, lest I tear myself apart from the rampart KuroTaki shipping that'd look so perfect and yet never come true. ):
Takigawa is like the perfect girl for anybody, that's why it hurts so much when you know what happens in the story.
This is one of those rare manga where you really feel as if you're in the main character's shoes (even despite the things he does).
CaptGloval
2009-08-19, 09:37
I had read the first few chapters of OMK in some imageboard, but recently it got a huge dose of blog love, which finally convinced me to finish it. I'll just paste here my comments in ghostlighning's entry (http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/omk/):
Okay, so I’m up to ep 17 and FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
The twist was plausible but it really came out of nowhere.
...
Oh lawl, did I just say "ep 17"? I meant chapter 17. Damn, I guess it really affected me. That, and I must sleep, I’m gonna finish this tomorrow.
Hehehehe. Glad you’re enjoying. Get yourself to the karaoke chapter and remember a little love.
Yeah. I think the karaoke happened before the twist. I almost missed the exact page when it failed to load the first time, good thing I reloaded and remembered love. They put more emphasis on the Hare Hare Yukai though, but it was also awesome, complete with the facepalm.
When I asked myself why the twist affected me so, the answer came quickly: I’ve experienced it a lot of times myself. I think I’ve learned enough that ever since the date (which happened right after the karaoke) I knew that Kurosawa ought to confess, confess, do it, DO IT NAO! His whole body is telling him. Why not do it with Takagawa for a change? The hand needs some rest. With the way she was treating everyone, I knew it won’t be long before some other guy would feel the same way. Just that it came out of nowhere that that other guy would be Nagaoka.
However, when thinking about it, with the way the story is told in Kurosawa’s perspective, it would really be a surprise, but the clues were there, and in a story where the characters infer and act based on few and subtle clues, I think it’s consistent. Firstly, I don’t find Nagaoka as the stereotypical otaku. He does have otaku interests, but his personality is a genki nice guy, which, come to think of it, is similar to Takagawa’s. (And he looks like Ronald McDonald, I really can’t get past that.) Secondly, Kurosawa is passive; he waits for a chance to bump into Takagawa. Of course Nagaoka may be passive himself, and this leads to the third point, which is what I think is the major advantage Nagaoka had over Kurosawa: the former had more chance to interact with Takagawa. During the summer break, Nagaoka would have had daily interaction with the girl via cram school. Kurosawa? Zero. And this lull came after Kurosawa’s date with Takagawa, which I think was her testing the waters and coming out disappointed due to the lack of follow-up. (EDIT: That last sentence is pure speculation and might not hold.)
Sh*t! While doing this analysis, the hurt from my own heartbreaks are coming back to me. Inuman na ‘to!
Let’s see if I’m correct by reading the succeeding chapters.
Nagaoka is an alpha otaku. He’s a connector and social magnet. I don’t think he’s that passive pare. He’s actually quite shameless. This shameless wide-open otaku behavior is part of what Kurosawa found irritating about him.
Nagaoka may or may not know this, but it doesn’t matter: he is unstoppable, in the face of no agreement. Nagaoka is one of my heroes. No doubt about it.
"Wag nating idaan, sa maboteng usapan…"
Ok, finished it.
Glad that I got the similarity of Nagaoka and Takagawa (another fansubber--EDIT: Oh lawl, I meant scanlator--call her Takigawa, hm, I’ll just call her Takki). You’re right about Nagaoka. That thing about cram school interaction is just speculation, but could be valid given what happened with Kurosawa and Sugawa later on. Glad that the fapper learned some love lessons after all. I find the Kurosawa+Sugawa pairing quite funny because it follows the harem rule: first contact gets to be the end girl.
The events surrounding Kurosawa’s admission of his crime was gloriously sublime. It wasn’t just a test on his character but also on Nagaoka’s and Takki’s and the two passed with flying colors. I was actually worried Kitahara won’t be saved. I was hoping though that she save herself and help Kurosawa by coming clean on her part in the fap attacks, and at least the motivations would be revealed. Maybe she’d do it eventually. Maybe it doesn’t matter anymore. Or maybe Kurosawa would do it: the entire manga is actually his fulfillment of the deal with Takki–this was the story that would shock her heart.
I think I know why Nagaoka is one of your heroes. There is actually a significance in him saying "Listen to my song!" This manga is Macross 7 all over again, with Basara and Sivil saving Geppelnitch from the depths of darkness.
Yes and yes. I agree with your observations. And at least the Macross 7 reference is at least plausible and/or consistent, if we consider how Kurosawa is at least internally hostile to Nagaoka.
EDIT:
Checked the first chapter, Sugawa wasn't actually the first contact; she's the second. First was Kitahara. Sugawa was the first victim though.
Anyway, invoking the harem rule was flimsy in the first place.
SageGaiGar
2009-08-21, 22:06
I had read the first few chapters of OMK in some imageboard, but recently it got a huge dose of blog love, which finally convinced me to finish it. I'll just paste here my comments in ghostlighning's entry (http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/omk/):
EDIT:
Checked the first chapter, Sugawa wasn't actually the first contact; she's the second. First was Kitahara. Sugawa was the first victim though.
Anyway, invoking the harem rule was flimsy in the first place.
Actually...
Technically would be the Tsundere since she and her crew barged into the girls bathroom while he was in. They didn't 'speak' but it does follow the 'first girl you meet' trope rather hilariously.
A buddy of mine suggested this and I got hooked hardcore to it. The fantasies were a wee much (quasi-lulzy in a twisted way) I actually like and understand how it turned out.
The takkiXafrodude makes sense and is a situation I'm pretty familiar with. While TakkixKurosawa was kinda bridge burned with the plot. Who knows how it might turn out.
And I doubt he'd ever hook up with Aya. They are too similiar (and different) I might see them working together perhaps in the future.
Long live the Tsundere Yankee!
Personally I thought the infatuation with Takigawa was handled nicely. He's a high school student whose had very little real contact with women before that moment. It's very natural for boys to exaggerate a commonality with a girl to more than what it is.
I read this manga out of curiosity despite its rather repulsive beginning. I was really surprised at the way things started to change towards the end and the character development really felt quite real. That a story called "Onani Master Kurosawa" could actually be a touching story is very strange, but true.
Diedrupo
2009-08-22, 00:11
Oh that change was definately planned. After all, the source material was an online novel.
And the author was clearly inspired by Catcher in the Rye.
If this ever gets an anime adaption, the two supplementary chapters would make a nice follow up OVA.
fallschirmjager
2009-08-22, 21:49
And the author was clearly inspired by Catcher in the Rye.
Not the mention the novel is called "Catcher In the Toilet".
CaptGloval
2009-08-23, 03:16
Actually...
Technically would be the Tsundere since she and her crew barged into the girls bathroom while he was in. They didn't 'speak' but it does follow the 'first girl you meet' trope rather hilariously.
I'm not sure of your criteria in considering which interaction as first contact...
but a few days before that, Kurosawa ran into Kitahara as he exited the girls' toilet. He spoke out a clumsy excuse for being there, while she merely kept silent.
Also, while checking that first chapter again, it turns out Erika was the first girl Kurosawa mentioned in the story. She was the fap fodder for the day. Really hilarious because in the end chapters her boyfriend threatened to beat the crap out of Kurosawa if she was ever victimized. Of course, what the boyfriend had in mind was Kurosawa's cum attacks. Other than Kitahara, nobody is yet to now that he once fapped in the girls' toilet on a daily basis.
Not the mention the novel is called "Catcher In the Toilet".
"Onani/Fap Master Kurosawa" has a better ring to it though.
Anyway, I've read the After the Juvenile epilogue. I think it leads credence to a comment I found (http://not.dotq.org/2009/08/14/where-onani-master-kurosawa-takes-us-and-why-its-different?cid=61356#comment-61356) that Sugawa isn't really a tsundere and that her pairing with Kurosawa isn't that awesome as he narrates in the story. And, I agree with the comment that this characterization actually adds more depth to the story.
Also...
that the NagaokaXTakigawa relationship is on the rocks is something to be expected at relationship at that stage in life. Somehow, I also get this feeling that the pairing has served its purpose in the story, so it is being "discarded." What I do find remarkable is that the couple is getting worked up on something that might happen two years later. A lot can happen over a couple of years.
SageGaiGar
2009-08-23, 12:19
I'm not sure of your criteria in considering which interaction as first contact...
but a few days before that, Kurosawa ran into Kitahara as he exited the girls' toilet. He spoke out a clumsy excuse for being there, while she merely kept silent.
Also, while checking that first chapter again, it turns out Erika was the first girl Kurosawa mentioned in the story. She was the fap fodder for the day. Really hilarious because in the end chapters her boyfriend threatened to beat the crap out of Kurosawa if she was ever victimized. Of course, what the boyfriend had in mind was Kurosawa's cum attacks. Other than Kitahara, nobody is yet to now that he once fapped in the girls' toilet on a daily basis.
"Onani/Fap Master Kurosawa" has a better ring to it though.
Anyway, I've read the After the Juvenile epilogue. I think it leads credence to a comment I found (http://not.dotq.org/2009/08/14/where-onani-master-kurosawa-takes-us-and-why-its-different?cid=61356#comment-61356) that Sugawa isn't really a tsundere and that her pairing with Kurosawa isn't that awesome as he narrates in the story. And, I agree with the comment that this characterization actually adds more depth to the story.
Also...
that the NagaokaXTakigawa relationship is on the rocks is something to be expected at relationship at that stage in life. Somehow, I also get this feeling that the pairing has served its purpose in the story, so it is being "discarded." What I do find remarkable is that the couple is getting worked up on something that might happen two years later. A lot can happen over a couple of years.
It's a bit unrealistic to imagine most relationships around these years will endure the immaturity of either side. 'Tsundere' kind of gets tossed around a lot to.
I'm taking it as the first girl to contact *him* even if he said nothing (and if had he would've been 'killed'. And story would be pretty different from how it'd turn out). That is when she and her friends were in the girls bathroom to smoke and nearly caught him. It predates his interaction with Aya. A KurosawaxKitamura would take 'years' to develop.
I think the point of SugawaxKurosawa was to show how things can progress 'just because'. They happened to be in the same cram school (comradeship) and just ended up hanging out together on the ride back. A TakigawaxKurosawa would entail someone's feelings getting hurt... in this case 'Afrodude'.
Question to ask here is. "Is my happiness dependent on others?" aka. does it cancel out someone else's needs/wants. Do they have to be in an 'x' relationship or can they simply remain friends in this moment? Up to the reader to make that decision how they feel.
"Onani/Fap Master Kurosawa" has a better ring to it though.
"Master-bator Kurosawa" has an even better ring to it.
and oh, SageGaigar? Natsuki in your sig playing with his joystick is soooooooooooooo suitable for this thread. xD
Diedrupo
2009-08-25, 13:54
Anyway, I've read the After the Juvenile epilogue. I think it leads credence to a comment I found (http://not.dotq.org/2009/08/14/where-onani-master-kurosawa-takes-us-and-why-its-different?cid=61356#comment-61356) that Sugawa isn't really a tsundere and that her pairing with Kurosawa isn't that awesome as he narrates in the story. And, I agree with the comment that this characterization actually adds more depth to the story.
Yeah, I have to agree with this. Honestly, tsunderes as they are portrayed in anime, pretty much don't exist in real life, and Sugawa is an incredibly realistic portrayal of a high school girl and probably the closest you can get to tsundere without acting like they do in anime. She's a bully and arrogant but weak, and that makes her appealing to not just Kurosawa but the audience.
SageGaiGar
2009-08-25, 15:10
"Master-bator Kurosawa" has an even better ring to it.
and oh, SageGaigar? Natsuki in your sig playing with his joystick is soooooooooooooo suitable for this thread. xD
hehe. indeed.
It'll be a while before I ever consider changing it.
Sugawa kind of also reminds me almost of 'Saki' from Genshiken. Though, I doubt that char had anything like what happened in OMK to her. xD
Flyvedelta
2009-09-01, 12:01
Had just read this because I've seen someone with OMK signature in this forum. . Which depicated the ending scene. Since the girl in that picture seems cute, I decided to read this.
The few first chapter are hillarious xD; lol at the keikaku doori.
And then the complication started at the middle. The way they depicated Kurosawa's development are kinda. . realistic. But I really like the conflict when he started to realized that he liked Takigawa, and after he found out that Takigawa already got a boyfriend. The depression he felt actually made my heart sting a little ;( but what is more sad is when Kurosawa found the picture of everyone at the school trip. ;_;
The ending part after Kurosawa admitted that he had done all the...pranks, was great. It's nice to see how he changed.
Also, Tsungawa is cute :3 Glad to see that she's still 'broken'/yankee while keeping a little of her tsundere personality. Though, it would be better if they put more scene to explain their relationship ;_;
Sugawa kind of also reminds me almost of 'Saki' from Genshiken. Though, I doubt that char had anything like what happened in OMK to her. xD
I dunno, her boyfriend Kohsaka's pretty 'out there'...:heh:
Just finished reading this manga, I say, that was one of the biggest mind fucks I had all year. The mangaka is a brilliant scenario writer on writing such a realistic story; although the only thing that seemed out of place for me was that how Kurosawa was slowly forgiven by his fellow classmates. He must be extremely lucky since in real life, you'll be branded as a loser for the rest of your school life if you committed something that outrageous. Wow, this is definitely one of the best mangas I have ever read.
Flyvedelta
2009-09-01, 16:33
^
I think he was still branded as 'loser' at the end as well. He said something about being a high school is still hard for him or something because of his past title as the onani master. . . But I think it's just like that guy said at the end (the one who sprint withouth clothes at one chapter), it's just that there's not many person who was hurt by what he done. Only some of the girls in which he had laid his judgment before, and we don't even know whether they had forgave him or not either.
I think it's just like the scene where Kitahara got bullied by everyone when she was forced to confess to Pizza-ta. Everyone just following the flow of the class, eventhough they actually didn't have anything to do with it. So everyone was quick to 'forgive' him... I think :heh:
Rockin'Squat
2009-09-03, 16:51
I see I'm not the only one who began reading OMK thanks to the signature of Fallschirmjager ( the tremendous final scene with Kuosawa and You-know-who) ;) :D
In a manga which takes place in school, I barely never encountered a main character as human as Kurosawa. I'm glad to have read such a great story about adolescence crisis !
Just finished read the light novel sequel of OMK (named "After the juvenile") ! It's great to watch the becomming of the SOS-Dan but it's even more frustrating when you think it's the end. For real that time !:(
fallschirmjager
2009-09-03, 23:07
I see I'm not the only one who began reading OMK thanks to the signature of Fallschirmjager ( the tremendous final scene with Kuosawa and You-know-who) ;)(
Just doing my part...
I feel like rereading this over the weekend so I'll try and come up with some more ideas.
HashiriyaR32
2009-10-12, 22:34
Sorry if I'm a bit late to the party, but I managed to marathon all 4 volumes of OMK today. While I cruised through the first volume or so with Death Note BGM (specifically one of the more epic ones) playing in my head, I really was in for a HUGE shock in the WHAM chapter. Not going to spoil for those who haven't read, but around that point it was as if I was sharing Kurosawa's exact feelings about the predicament he was in. Nearly brought me to tears around the 3rd volume.
DragoZERO
2009-10-13, 07:19
This really is one hell of a coming of age story if you think about it. If the subject matter wasn't so mature, it probably would have reached a wider audience and gotten more attention. But what he did actually gives contrast to his growing up and all.
Kaisos Erranon
2009-10-16, 19:22
This is one of the best manga I've ever had the pleasure to read.
...Why are a lot of doujin so amazing compared to actual published works? :heh:
SageGaiGar
2009-10-16, 22:31
The latter chapters are way beyond the scope of your standard romance. Hell that 'wham' in the middle hit like battering ram to the ribs. Supposedly it's going to be made into an actual novel. Very high quality in terms of story and characterization, I loved how it messed with the 'rules'.
I think a doujin writer just has to deal with doing their own labor of love rather than try and do something for mass appeal. It's that heart that sets it apart from everything else.
ClockWorkAngel
2009-10-16, 22:51
I've bltiz'd through it today and I gotta say it was amazing. I liked how the story progressed and at moments I felt like crying for Kurosawa. Its a great read and I'm surprised it was a doujin work actually.
There's alot of good stuff to be found in the world.
DragoZERO
2009-10-17, 15:34
I thought about this being made in an anime.. and it would probably get ruined if they did. I'd want to be adapted only for it to reach more people. The is the best 'coming of age' manga I've ever read.
fallschirmjager
2009-10-17, 15:49
Favourite manga, ever.
Favourite manga, ever.
I second that. :p
I think a doujin writer just has to deal with doing their own labor of love rather than try and do something for mass appeal. It's that heart that sets it apart from everything else.
I agree, because of those limitations in serialized manga series author/mangaka are not allow to do what they want. Thankfully this is not the case with Onani Master Kurosawa. :)
LusterFlare
2009-11-17, 01:26
Has to be one of the best manga I've read. Kurosawa has balls, both literally and figuratively. Tsundere Sugawa is yum <3. For those of you who don't know, there is a short text-only bit that takes place after the manga here:
http://faildoor.wordpress.com/category/onani-master-kurosawa/
Has to be one of the best manga I've read. Kurosawa has balls, both literally and figuratively. Tsundere Sugawa is yum <3. For those of you who don't know, there is a short text-only bit that takes place after the manga here:
http://faildoor.wordpress.com/category/onani-master-kurosawa/
Link already posted months ago but can be good for thoses who don't want to read the ancient pages .
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
In testament to my love for this manga, allow me to ramble on...
I'm glad this manga isn't really about fapping. Just like any good drama, this manga has managed to grip me emotionally. I don't think I've felt my emotions to shift so violently since Ever17. The story had some sense of realism that I appreciated. Of course, there were also parts that kinda stretched my suspension of disbelief (Why fap on something when there are safer, less disgusting, altenatives?).
Honestly, I was hoping for Takagawa and Kurosawa to end up together midway, but Sugawa and Kurosawa works even better.
I'm such a sucker for well-done tsundere characters...
Full Metal Coast
2009-12-07, 22:45
probably my number 1 manga ever at the moment. its like death note if light where instead of writing names in it you just jizz instead. quality story i read it in a day.
ive been told there is an after story. is this still ongoing or is it completed?
DragoZERO
2009-12-07, 23:09
probably my number 1 manga ever at the moment. its like death note if light where instead of writing names in it you just jizz instead. quality story i read it in a day.
ive been told there is an after story. is this still ongoing or is it completed?
I'm glad you liked it.
As for the sequel story: http://faildoor.wordpress.com/category/onani-master-kurosawa/
Full Metal Coast
2009-12-08, 02:39
I'm glad you liked it.
As for the sequel story: http://faildoor.wordpress.com/category/onani-master-kurosawa/
cheers ill get started on it right away.
Albafica
2009-12-11, 02:49
I finish this manga, it is ok. Characters are interesting, the moral is cool, the love story is agreeable.
I don't like the chara design and Kirihara is very annoying.
By the way, I don't understand why Kurosawa helps this girl. Ok she will reveal his secret, but he can say that it's false. There are not a lot of evidences against him.
It looks like a speech vs another speech.
Well perhaps the police would like to have Kurosawa's sperm to compare with the one which was on "crime" moments.
Anyway, it's good to see the change of Kurosawa. But at his place, I would never say that it's me who did that, i'm not crazy :heh:. And well, it's difficult to forgive...
I laugh at "JUST AS PLANNED!!!" :heh:
Kyonichi
2009-12-16, 05:26
Having read the raw many moons ago with absolute zero knowledge in moon language, I thought that Kitahara was "weak" character however having finally found some courage to read the translated chapters as I simply refused to revisit the Takigawa and Nagaoka scene again previously as it's simply heart breaking. I got to say I still cried like a little girl during the scene and Kitahara was not the exact I thought from previously.
It still makes me wonder, what exactly does Takigawa think of Kurosawa? Was it simply someone who is alike with her? there are quite a few ambiguous quotes earlier on that make you wonder if she has fall for Kurosawa as well as the "date" they went on.
I've also found this chart. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3528/0529u.jpg Would like to know whats the "フラグビソビソ" mean? anyone?
fallschirmjager
2009-12-17, 03:19
It still makes me wonder, what exactly does Takigawa think of Kurosawa? Was it simply someone who is alike with her? there are quite a few ambiguous quotes earlier on that make you wonder if she has fall for Kurosawa as well as the "date" they went on.
From memory - been trying to reread this one - I always thought Magistel was just kind to everyone and Kurosawa seemed to have misinterpreted her kindness as affection.
But this is just a hazy recollection on my part.
Flyvedelta
2009-12-17, 03:34
I think, in a way, she did like him. It's just that she spent her time more with Nagaoka during the cram school and that school trip arc..I think there's some sort of hint that she had developed some feelings towards Kurosawa, but in the end, that feeling lost to her feeling towards Nagaoka.
This is just a personal opinion btw.
DragoZERO
2009-12-17, 10:19
From memory - been trying to reread this one - I always thought Magistel was just kind to everyone and Kurosawa seemed to have misinterpreted her kindness as affection.
But this is just a hazy recollection on my part.
I agree with that. The guy didn't have enough experience with dealing with other people, let alone the opposite sex. I do have to say, I thought she liked him too. It was a real slap in the face, for both him and the reader.
That, and Kurosawa was very passive about it. Nagaoka, on the other hand, was a very social person. It's not hard to see why Magistel went with him - they were plenty alike(and willing to make friends with anyone), as opposed to her daily library rendevouz with Kakeru(i'm making this sound much more than it really is xD); Nagaoka was more initiative and social(and thus gets more attention) compared to Kurosawa who was just sitting around to see if anything would progress. In a way, you could say that him not being able to get together Magister was his own fault, but then again he has never been much of a people person.
And indeed. Kurosawa most likely caught her eye,even if not for romantic reasons. After all, (in manga/anime genre) you don't see a lot of guys being so well read, do you? And he was one for intelligent conversations, from what we can infer from their conversation topics. He just got overshadowed by the "brighter" Nagaoka ("brighter" in the sense that Keiji was a more active person compared to Kurosawa's passiveness)
Sol Falling
2009-12-17, 18:33
Takigawa ending up with Nagaoka was a slap in the face to Kurosawa, but frankly, she deserved a (figurative) slap in the face as well. You don't go becoming 'soulmates' with practically a stranger and not expect something romantic to be implied. It's true that Kurosawa was naive in interpreting generic friendly interest for a romantic kind, but it's also true that Takigawa's 'generic friendly interest' was naive in the first place. This issue is one of the manga's failures to me.
Now that's what I call a great manga. It's kinda hard to believe this was a doujinshi, I certainly won't overlook any doujinshi from now on even if the art doesn't really appeal to me. This was all about twists and developments. I didn't expect Sugiwa, the one who harassed Kitawa-san on daily basis to end up with Kurosawa, that was definitely NOT expected.
My favorite chapter of the manga had to be the one where Kurosawa discovered that Takigawa and Nagaoka were dating. That was (like some people mentioned), a real slap in the face. It came out of nowhere; but then again he did mention that Takigawa treats him just how she treats everyone else. And I knew something was going to happen to Kurosawa, especially when he said something about how he can't imagine what it would feel like to see the girl you're in love with seeing someone else.
Now, off to finishing the novel.........
RWBladewing
2009-12-18, 09:44
I decided to check this out after seeing this thread resurface, and having previously seen pics in a user's avatar/sig and liking the designs. I was expecting some mindless gross-out humor to keep me occupied while bored but was outright blown away by the quality of the story. Couldn't even stop reading it and finished it in a single night. I think one of the reasons it especially struck home with me is the fact that I was a self-imposed outcast exactly like Kurosawa in my school days (without the "daily routine" of course:heh:). Not sure if I've ever seen a work I could relate to so much, which is something I never would have expected just from reading its title and brief description. I don't read a lot of manga but this is definitely at the very top of my list.
fallschirmjager
2009-12-21, 06:29
having previously seen pics in a user's avatar/sig and liking the designs.
I get a lot of people asking me where they were from so I'm happy to keep using them if it promotes a great coming of age story.
If I can get around to rereading it I hope to find some more good scenes to make into signatures/avatars.
Seeing your siggy never fails to make my heart break ;___;
Wow , glad that more people are getting interested to this excellent doujinshi !
DragoZERO
2009-12-21, 08:05
Seeing your siggy never fails to make my heart break ;___;
Yeah, it really brings back memories.
It's also a great signature artistically speaking as well.
I had started this at the beginning of the year (up to chapter 12 was scanlated then I think). Finally decided to finish it last week.
Must say that this has been one of the best things I've read in a long time, and a very satisfying ending that left me with a good feeling in my heart.
Poetic Justice
2009-12-29, 14:53
Ok that was pretty good i gotta say, After what has to be one of the most misleading preludes, It slowly manifests into this manga about forgiveness, redemption and in what has to be, one of the best coming-of-age stories I've read thus far.
Also death note(fap note)and code geass references were golden. :heh:
I just read this little piece of art... what can i say... despite the sexual references... it's really a good story.
now... this must be animated!
:D
Ricky Controversy
2010-01-10, 01:02
I was genuinely impressed by this manga. While I was expecting it to be a black comedy parody of Death Note through and through, it turned into a very poignant story about a range of challenges people face as an inherent part of growing up.
The characters were believable and sympathetic, and the plot was well-paced. I've become so desensitized to disappointment at a protagonist's false starts towards redemption that I was resigned to Kurosawa not admitting to his actions when he stood up before the class. I was so incredibly impressed that he took that step right then and owned up to the consequences. His maturation was moving beyond words.
ZODDGUTS
2010-01-20, 10:17
The artist of this series has won some sort of a honorable mention award in the Jump Treasure newcomer’s manga award.
http://zepy.momotato.com/2010/01/18/onanie-master-kurosawa-manga-artist-on-jump/
^good news indeed...
i would like to read another manga from him.
Yeah good for the artist :)
DragoZERO
2010-01-20, 11:28
I hope this gives the manga more attention. I want an anime adaption so more people can experience this story. It must be faithful though.
The only way this is ever going to be made into an anime is through an OVA, and a handful of episodes aren't enough to do the story justice IMO.
Kudos to the artist for winning the award though. Hopefully he'll start up a new series in JUMP soon, there's not much I'm reading from that aside from OP and Bakuman.
Battler-kun
2010-01-20, 13:33
Very original story.
Full Metal Coast
2010-02-01, 00:59
Just finished reading Onani Master Kurosawa: After The Juvinile and i thought it was a great end to the series im really happy with the Kurosawa X Sugawa finish the only problem is now i want more Kurosawa X Sugawa. this has been one of the best mangas i have ever read.
Flyvedelta
2010-02-01, 09:20
That manga that he submitted to JUMP seems to have cute art o.o; Is he going to walk to the path of god ? Well....the art in the later chapter does seems cute compared with the earlier chapter....Not to mention that my reasons for reading the manga at the first place was because I saw the picture of Sugawa and Kurosawa together.....but still, the picture in Senka ni Saku really looks great.....
*continues rambling
oh, btw this :
It’s only the artist and not the author of OMK… =/
Wait, so the one who do the story is not him but other person ? It's the first time I know about it :heh:
I thought that at first, I didn't like the art but still like the story of OMK. But I guess, with his art getting better now, it makes me curious on what he's gonna draw next.
ZetranWW3
2010-02-01, 10:29
where can I read it? I can't find it on the website shonenjump site
DragoZERO
2010-02-01, 11:49
where can I read it? I can't find it on the website shonenjump site
Google it. Google can find anything.
ZetranWW3
2010-02-01, 12:13
I tried to google Senka ni Saku by yokota takuma but no luck - anyone know the link please pm me
Not sure if this is what your looking for....
http://zepy.momotato.com/2010/01/18/onanie-master-kurosawa-manga-artist-on-jump/
fallschirmjager
2010-02-09, 05:08
Finished rereading this the other night and I really forgot how much I liked it.
Even though I had experienced it before chapter seventeen and twenty-three still gave me that same sense of awe at what had just happened.
God damn I love this story.
Still I'd like to see a future version and see how Kurosawa and Takagawa go about their dreams.
Still I'd like to see a future version and see how Kurosawa and Takagawa go about their dreams.Did you read the novel?
LusterFlare
2010-02-09, 05:31
Finished rereading this the other night and I really forgot how much I liked it.
Even though I had experienced it before chapter seventeen and twenty-three still gave me that same sense of awe at what had just happened.
God damn I love this story.
Still I'd like to see a future version and see how Kurosawa and Takagawa go about their dreams.
Wow, I just reread this the other day too. Seriously, more people should read this masterpiece. I would hate to see people shy away from OMK just because of its initial premise; they are missing out.
fallschirmjager
2010-02-09, 05:54
Did you read the novel?
"After The Juvenile" ?
It only gives us a glimpse of how things looked a few months later. Not years in the future.
Full Metal Coast
2010-02-09, 20:36
Finished rereading this the other night and I really forgot how much I liked it.
Even though I had experienced it before chapter seventeen and twenty-three still gave me that same sense of awe at what had just happened.
God damn I love this story.
Still I'd like to see a future version and see how Kurosawa and Takagawa go about their dreams.
have to agree with you on this whole post especially on the part of getting a glimpse of how Kurosawa and Takagawa are achieving their goals. i really really hope there will be something like this eventually.
DragoZERO
2010-02-09, 22:16
have to agree with you on this whole post especially on the part of getting a glimpse of how Kurosawa and Takagawa are achieving their goals. i really really hope there will be something like this eventually.
I doubt we will. I think never knowing what happens is one of the story's charms. Besides, the author is moving onto new works.
Full Metal Coast
2010-02-10, 03:20
I doubt we will. I think never knowing what happens is one of the story's charms. Besides, the author is moving onto new works.
yeah i did read that. but hey there no point in wishing.
also if it does get left as is it is still one of the best mangas ever.
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