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Pellissier
2008-07-20, 04:51
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serenade_beta
2008-07-20, 07:10
First desu~

I really don't know what to expect this episode... I couldn't match last episode's preview to the events in the novel (maybe because the actual episode 2 mentally tired me out).
Anyways, I hope for:
-Less breast jokes
-Better art quality
-I hope there isn't too much Henrietta being her usual over-sentimental self
-No Agnes
-....Something better than last episode?

gabbytay
2008-07-20, 09:55
I predict alot of breast jokes in this episode:heh: ; Its inevitable :upset:

Bennyswan
2008-07-20, 10:05
lol yeah the usual stuff in zero no tsukaima ( breast jokes, whips? maybe)

monir
2008-07-20, 14:43
First desu~

I really don't know what to expect this episode... I couldn't match last episode's preview to the events in the novel (maybe because the actual episode 2 mentally tired me out).
Anyways, I hope for:
-Less breast jokes
-Better art quality
-I hope there isn't too much Henrietta being her usual over-sentimental self
-No Agnes
-....Something better than last episode?

Just say it without beating around the bush that episode 2 was crap and we will vote on it. :heh:

That said, looking forward to episode 3. :D

serenade_beta
2008-07-20, 15:44
Dear J.C.Staff... For heavens sake (and my sake as well, and the other loyal readers' sake), please do not do what you are doing to ZnT as you will for To Aru Majutsu no Index... Please don't rape it so badly...
No, it isn't even rape level anymore, is it... I'll echo the ED, but this level of rape=arienai.


Can I cry now... :T_T:

Problems... Let's see, where to begin.

-Tiffania feeling attachment to her home.
This "attachment" really feels a bit strange in the anime, since a certain group of characters were erased...
I guess this is still okay.

-Derflinger teleporting Saito...

-Err... Plot hole...? I could have sworn them saying that magic can't revive the dead or something like that during the whole dead Wales incident last season...
And all of a sudden, they are saying senjuu magic can revive the dead?

-Wow, the anime really does make Henrietta quite unlikable...
She keeps on asking Saito to be a chevalier through this episode until he accepts, and starts going "my" or "mine" after he becomes one.

-The worst, absolute finisher, was the end... They tried to fit so much and was so tragically done, I wanted to cry...
For some reason, everyone comes to greet Saito and makes such a fuss about him simply being a chevalier.
The Undines just POP up... And because they cut a lot of stuff out, Guiche is still the irritating narcisst he is without any likable parts...
Louise got to be very annoying at the end, shouting at Tiffania like that... :mad:


Hah... Putting that aside, other thoughts.

-Hi, Leiner, nice to see you animated.

-Wow, I finally get to hear that poem/legend/whatever sung by Tiffania... The lyrics being sung felt kind of awkward, but the tune and everything was pretty good. It sounded a lot like Jigoku Shojo's ED...

-Siesta disappears all of a sudden in the middle...
But still, I'm satisfied she got some time to appear. And the last part of her after Saito becomes a chevalier... :kisskiss:

-At least they pretty much explained Tiffania's past and got it out of the way. Even her connection with Henrietta was revealed, though it was done in a forced manner (once again, the end...)

-Even Beatrice got an appearance...

*yawn*
I'll give it a 5/10. At least the art quality wasn't as bad as last episode, Siesta got appearance, and the plot moves.

The ED's end continues to change with Henrietta this time.

Preview: There weren't many breast jokes this episode, but looks like the next episode is...
Anyways, I guess they are headed towards vol.12 and Beatrice and Tiffania next...
And I guess the nations convention starts next episode too?

sekidousai
2008-07-20, 17:35
:D cant wait to watch ep 3.



-Err... Plot hole...? I could have sworn them saying that magic can't revive the dead or something like that during the whole dead Wales incident last season...
And all of a sudden, they are saying senjuu magic can revive the dead?


Yup, is sux0rz

:twitch: I really don't have any problems changing the novels narration here and there. However,I share the same feelings about the messup. I hate how J.C. staff screwed up the consistency of their adaptation. :frustrated: ... I mean, BIG TIME!!!!! :frustrated:

crystalalien87
2008-07-20, 19:36
ugh its taking longer then usual for the raw...

Sterling01
2008-07-20, 21:18
Dear J.C.Staff... For heavens sake (and my sake as well, and the other loyal readers' sake), please do not do what you are doing to ZnT as you will for To Aru Majutsu no Index... Please don't rape it so badly...
No, it isn't even rape level anymore, is it... I'll echo the ED, but this level of rape=arienai.

Seconded

You know, I once thought I could handle how J.C. staff is taking ZnT's plot. As in regards to the anime if I said I was watching it for the "plot" I'd be a liar. Though, this episode made me rethink that statement.... and that's not good.

crystalalien87
2008-07-20, 22:35
just watched the raw and i was pretty lost for the most part... it seemed like a laid back episode and not many jokes... so i say it was 8/10... now i gotta wait for the sub so i can understand... and the next episode looks funny and romantic :)

vorpal83
2008-07-21, 05:13
Why'd the princess block louise like that? That's a pretty nasty thing to do to your supposed bff:P

Sterling01
2008-07-21, 11:34
Why'd the princess block louise like that? That's a pretty nasty thing to do to your supposed bff:P
Because she wants Saito for herself

gabbytay
2008-07-21, 16:46
The staff seriously suck they keep making mistakes by making them intentionally.:frustrated:
1. They said the dead can't be resurrected and now they say the dead can be resurrected. WTF is that
2. The army retreated because of confusion and Derf Forced Saito's body to move not teleport using the absorbed magic.
3. Too fast paced but they can slow down the pace by wasting some boob jokes, luckily there were only a few in this episode.
4. They seriously need a new script writer.
5. Fire the team that is working with this anime and hire a new one.:heh:
6. Siesta became Saito's servant. they're probably planning some boob jokes for her.

rg4619
2008-07-21, 19:29
4. They seriously need a new script writer.
5. Fire the team that is working with this anime and hire a new one.

They've changed lead writers each season (and there was a change in director after Season 1), which is probably the reason for any inconsistencies. It's unfortunate that no one's paying close enough attention to catch the mistakes.

Rising Dragon
2008-07-21, 22:30
Um, didn't they bring Wales back using the Ring of Andvari last season? Tiffania reviving someone doesn't seem all that contrived because of that, if you ask me...

... of course, I still haven't seen this damn episode, but whatever.

gabbytay
2008-07-21, 23:06
Um, didn't they bring Wales back using the Ring of Andvari last season? Tiffania reviving someone doesn't seem all that contrived because of that, if you ask me...

... of course, I still haven't seen this damn episode, but whatever.

He was a zombie not really resurected like saito.

Rising Dragon
2008-07-21, 23:26
He was a zombie not really resurected like saito.

Um, no he wasn't. He wasn't rotting or anything. He was resurrected with the Ring of Andvari, and controlled by it. He showed no characteristics of being a zombie.

sekidousai
2008-07-21, 23:38
:frustrated::frustrated:

I wish they did'nt used the saito dying plot. So now what, the Elf has the power of ressurrection :eyespin: ? Geez. A more plausible plot would be,yes, teleportation. :frustrated:

Um, no he wasn't. He wasn't rotting or anything. He was resurrected with the Ring of Andvari, and controlled by it. He showed no characteristics of being a zombie.

He is a Zombie, A dead body. a Reanimated corpse like the rest of the dead soldiers. Same with Saito, he should be a Zombie. This kind of sh!t happens because the writers did not do their work properly. The novel makes a point that Magic should not be used to Raise the dead. Now that the Elf has Ressu power, will the storyline just ignore it? Will they make another plot for it? It makes me so frustated i wanna cry.

Darknemo2000
2008-07-21, 23:57
Rising Dragon, actually Wales was a zombie in a Chlamers way of maining.

Many people forget that in African folklore zombie does not mean living dead but rather someone who lost his own will.

In fact at first in Africa (where the name zombie comes) zombies were living beings with their will stolen and only Hollywood made zombies widely known as living deads but in truth -zombies can be alive just without any will.

So Wales was a zombie.

But Saito was no a zombie, but now thay are making misate in this anime. they are saying that the magic can resurrect without making one into a zombie which is a mistake as before they said (following novels) that one cannot resurrect a really living being.

Yes, Wales was living being but without his own will. All his characteristics were the same as living person however, he was still a zombie in true meaning of this word.

So yes, seems like a plot hole for me.

sekidousai
2008-07-22, 00:34
Rising Dragon, actually Wales was a zombie in a Chlamers way of maining.

Many people forget that in African folklore zombie does not mean living dead but rather someone who lost his own will.

In fact at first in Africa (where the name zombie comes) zombies were living beings with their will stolen and only Hollywood made zombies widely known as living deads but in truth -zombies can be alive just without any will.

So Wales was a zombie.

But Saito was no a zombie, but now thay are making misate in this anime. they are saying that the magic can resurrect without making one into a zombie which is a mistake as before they said (following novels) that one cannot resurrect a really living being.

Yes, Wales was living being but without his own will. All his characteristics were the same as living person however, he was still a zombie in true meaning of this word.

So yes, seems like a plot hole for me.

:heh: Well with Louise around, Saito doesn't have that much free of a will does he? - lolz:p, (just kidding)

gabbytay
2008-07-22, 00:54
:heh: Well with Louise around, Saito doesn't have that much free of a will does he? - lolz:p, (just kidding)

since when did he have free will:heh:

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-07-22, 01:18
since when did he have free will:heh:

Never. He's enslaved to excessive boobage. (Tiffania, I'm looking at YOU) :heh:

Darknemo2000
2008-07-22, 01:25
Still Saito can do actions on his own at times to times and he has his own will and his own decisions even if Louise dominates quite a bit and even if boobs are his main life force for him as it seems. He is still not a zombie like Wales.

sekidousai
2008-07-22, 02:03
Still Saito can do actions on his own at times to times and he has his own will and his own decisions even if Louise dominates quite a bit and even if boobs are his main life force for him as it seems. He is still not a zombie like Wales.

:D harharhar!!!! Youre taking it too seriously...

Well to me, Saito in the anime right now is an "undead". Unless Tiffania becomes Jesus, that's the only thing that could change my view for Saito. Elves, AFAIK are not gods. Even so, gods/demi-gods, still have rules to follow regarding ressurrections. :eyespin:

...Damn plot holes.:frustrated: J.C. Dai Kirai
...I hope this does not affect fansubbing releases... oh well, if these keeps up, i would'nt wanna continue watching anyway... maybe just for visual refferrences while reading the book. :(

Darknemo2000
2008-07-22, 02:40
Well, I never had much of humor sense to begin with.

anyways, as far as I am concerned this resurrection things is indeed an obvious plot hole by J.C. In novels Saito wasn't completely dead as his heart only stopped for a moment, but only a for short time, long enough to break the contract, but not long enough for the life to leave his body, kind of like clinical death. There was no way Tiffania could have saved him if he would have been dead for longer period,

Unless you are a God you cannot resurrect people just like that. You can resurrect a zombie (person without will) with voids power, but it still would not be an 100 percent person as he would not have his own will.

In anime they said before, following novels, that it is impossible to resurrect person and now they are talking it is possible. Obvious plot hole for me.

J.C staff really need to change the ZnT crew, or at very least script writers as they are not even following the anime itself.

crystalalien87
2008-07-22, 08:12
...I hope this does not affect fansubbing releases... oh well, if these keeps up, i would'nt wanna continue watching anyway... maybe just for visual refferrences while reading the book. :(
dont say that i wanna watch them still... regardless how retarded the writer is..:D
but it seems like i may have a second opinion once it is subbed...lucky for me i have only read... what has been released novel wise so im not being disappointed that much...:eyespin:

Highlygifted
2008-07-22, 12:06
Just finished watching the episode, and it leaves me with quite a bit to say.



Why did Saito end up joining the ranks of the school's knights? Isn't he suppose to be the Queen's Knight, or does that title mean any knight serving the kingdom?
Also, boooo on him being only vice-captain.:mad: He can single handedly take on the whole group of knights in the school.

Aqua blue hair, shield like crest, is the mysterious person behind it all Tabitha's uncle? He did say he'll let the three other countries fight for Albion's land at the meeting, but he could be referencing the people under him who runs Gallia, his supporters ect.

The ring that gave Saito life seems to be similar yet opposite to the ring that was used on Wales. It was consumed to revive Saito, unlike the other ring, not to mention really wasn't consumed as much as placed inside him. My guess is Saito will use this to save someone (Louise most likely) when they die, but that means removing it from himself, leaving him dead.

Being able to teleport during desperation would've been much more useful being ported to the ship after he fended off the small numbers, but I guess that's how the writers wanted the plot.

Saito becoming a noble seems odd, I would've put my money on him still rejecting it, but I guess it's alright, he's not the type to abuse power, more like to use it beneficially. With this, he can oppose tyrannical nobles without Louise at his side.


Feel free to comment, debate or argue against whatever I said. All in all, this episode served pretty well in giving us hints, developing a relationship, and introducing some old and new faces.

Deathscyther
2008-07-22, 12:44
Leaving the plothole aside...the episode was pretty good. I've given it a 8 for some character development and progress of the plot. I hope that they won't make more of these stupid mistakes though..

Do not compare this anime to the novels, because you will be disappointed. At least that's what I do now. And it makes me enjoy the anime more.

Eps~
2008-07-22, 13:47
Tifa is love <3

Rising Dragon
2008-07-22, 14:34
Do not compare this anime to the novels, because you will be disappointed. At least that's what I do now. And it makes me enjoy the anime more.

That's what I tell everyone, yet nobody listens...

Darknemo2000
2008-07-22, 14:54
You do not have to read novels to see the screw ups in the anime really. The latest plothole is a good example of that.

Silaqui
2008-07-22, 15:02
You do not have to read novels to see the screw ups in the anime really. The latest plothole is a good example of that.

Yes, it is a plothole, but I can live with the "It's an ancient elf magic, that can only be used once." explanation. I have seen far worst plotholes in other animes.

Overall it was a very nice episode. More story and they toned down the fanservice greatly. Siesta becoming Saito's maid made me laugh and Tifa's song was really really great.

8/10

Kabitzin
2008-07-22, 16:14
Yes, it is a plothole, but I can live with the "It's an ancient elf magic, that can only be used once." explanation. I have seen far worst plotholes in other animes.

For all we (that have not read the novels) know, "ancient elf magic" could have been an old defib kit. It's happened before.

Anh_Minh
2008-07-22, 16:20
In a jewel? Don't think so. There's also the problem of feeding it electricity.

However, maybe the elves do have a lightning spell to restart hearts. Why not? Combined with a generic "close all wounds and refill the body with blood" spell.

Grandmaster Moron
2008-07-22, 16:25
So what's a windalfr??

Kabitzin
2008-07-22, 16:31
However, maybe the elves do have a lightning spell to restart hearts. Why not? Combined with a generic "close all wounds and refill the body with blood" spell.

If anime has taught me anything, it is that you do not need to "close all wounds and refill the body with blood." Just slap some bandages on that bad boy and you are ready to go!

Silaqui
2008-07-22, 16:44
So what's a windalfr??

He or she is the right hand of god and most likely the familiar of the yet unknown void user.

JagdPanther
2008-07-22, 16:51
Wow, even I think they need to tone down the boob shots of Tifa.

>_>
First desu~

I really don't know what to expect this episode... I couldn't match last episode's preview to the events in the novel (maybe because the actual episode 2 mentally tired me out).
Anyways, I hope for:
-No Agnes

May I ask why?

Anh_Minh
2008-07-22, 17:03
If anime has taught me anything, it is that you do not need to "close all wounds and refill the body with blood." Just slap some bandages on that bad boy and you are ready to go!

Could be worse. It could be video games, where all that's needed is to walk it off (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WalkItOff).

serenade_beta
2008-07-22, 17:10
May I ask why?

I dislike her... quite a lot.
Personality was irritating (also known as the emo swordswoman), her past/arc/chapters focused on her was boring (partially due to me not caring/interested about anything related to her), has no good points to back her up (to me, anyways), something like that.

Darknemo2000
2008-07-22, 17:59
I second that...In novels Agnes was/is the most annoying character for me...Even Cromwell or other bad guys talks are more interesting to read than Agnes past or her emo and useless self in the present...

And in anime...she is still same as annoying plus her non-important side story took a bigger part of second season while leaving important plot to be rushed in only few episodes...

gugumomu
2008-07-22, 18:10
i like how they present Tiffanias character in the anime (and they took some time to show her to us, not only the visual parts ... :D). completed with Noto Mamiko's voice she's quite allright.
as a whole this episode was better then ep2, the only somewhat annoying part was at the end. what was with that rukus, all the nobles from the academy celebrating one mere knight? it felt akward even for the anime.
@Highlygifted: the blue haired person said that Tristain, Germania and Gallia will fight over Albion at that conference, but that in fact he (Gallia) is not interested in that country anymore. he is Gallias king, of course

as most others here i found the "reviving" thing a little odd. it's a method to explain things, not the best maybe, but of course anime doesnt have to exactly follow novels. but that means 2 of the 4 Void rings all lost (Sheffilds when she poisoned that citys waters at the end of season 2, and now Tiffanias). the script writers dont seem to care about details, as in ep2 when Louise casted multiple "Explosions" without any incantation. that means she doesnt need Saito anymore? :heh:

Ivanlin
2008-07-22, 19:04
uhhhh could any1 give me a nice picture of Saito?

Anyways, i thought the episode was great! Especially the ending, when all the nobles were congratulating over Saito^.^

Darknemo2000
2008-07-22, 19:23
I felt taht the ending was stupid... Come one, all nobles are coming for what? For Saito who now merely became a knight? Thats beyond stupid actually...

WAY WAY too exaggerated reaction...

Ivanlin
2008-07-22, 19:26
lolz anyway, can u get any Saito pics in hand cuz i wanna make a siggy ty

Kenoshin
2008-07-22, 19:31
I felt taht the ending was stupid... Come one, all nobles are coming for what? For Saito who now merely became a knight? Thats beyond stupid actually...

WAY WAY too exaggerated reaction...

I didn't really like the ending either:heh:

longshot
2008-07-23, 00:04
guess saitos's new "job" comes with perks as he can get away with certain situations, take less beats from his master/lover, flirt around with the maid ( and may end up dead if his master found out or her father finds out) and lastly he got his own crew now so he has back up for those hairy outnumbered situations

Claude
2008-07-23, 01:11
Finally got to watch this and I gave it a below average score. That cape that Saito got looked pretty bad on him. The preview for the next episode shows him without it on, that's a relief. It also shows Louise as a dog though... As for the ending, I didn't hate it because it showed a lot of the characters that haven't been making any appearances as of late. The fireworks at day time was kind of pointless though, espcially since they were flying in... (Dangerous much?)

sekidousai
2008-07-23, 03:50
Just watched Ep. 3

---Tiffania leaves her wooden house, later revealed she is not a full elf but only half:rolleyes:. later revealed she is a cousin of the Queen :rolleyes:, .. iv'e got a feeling that some stories are quite rushed... im getting the feeling of "how convenient is that" kind of thing. Anywayz the queen kept pushing the title of chevalier on Saito's face. Even i wouldn't be able to reject that offer if the queen asked me more than once. Okay gripe time! that sword he carries has an ability to teleport Saito yet waited for the moment for Saito's heart to stop:upset:!!!! What the hell was that. It knows it could teleport, why did it do wait for situation to became fatal? ... okay moving on, Saito developed a Louise reflex when he is holding hands with Tifa. That kind of thing get's quite old. What kind of relationship is that. I feel that scene is getting quite tiring, i wish Saito would decapitate her head next time her temper bursts like that... Although Saito does'nt get whipped like he used to during the last season. Improvement, but still Louise is getting quite annoying its not cute anymore. Anywayz end of rant. let's see what'll happen next time.

Silaqui
2008-07-23, 07:46
Just watched Ep. 3

Okay gripe time! that sword he carries has an ability to teleport Saito yet waited for the moment for Saito's heart to stop!!!! What the hell was that.

We don't know how exactly gandalfr's power works, but it gets stronger, when Saito has strong emotions. Remember the fight against Waldo. Saito wanted to protect Louise so badly, that his sword had enough energy to turn into a new one.

Back to the battlefield: Saito lay there badly wounded and he wanted to see Louise again, although he knew, that he was going to die. He desperately screamed out her name and maybe that desperation provided enough energy for his sword to teleport Saito away.

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-07-23, 09:17
LMAO, Saito is only a Vice-Captain. Poor guy is bullied more than any other harem male lead.... :heh:

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-07-23, 09:25
Back to the battlefield: Saito lay there badly wounded and he wanted to see Louise again, although he knew, that he was going to die. He desperately screamed out her name and maybe that desperation provided enough energy for his sword to teleport Saito away.

I don't think so. According to the sword, Saito was not the one who teleported, because he was unconscious at the time of the teleportation.

This is what Saito's sword said:
It was I who sent my unconscious partner to the Weston Woods.

sekidousai
2008-07-23, 14:20
So i see... it is like a lambda drive.

It was I who sent my unconscious partner to the Weston Woods.

You make a point there. How could an unconcious Saito give energy to his dumb sword. I think Delfringer also said that his heart already stopped before they've reached Tifa.

AquaMethod
2008-07-23, 15:56
Well...at least Saito and Louise do seem to be making progress with their relationship; that's my favorite part of this season right now. Sure, they still have fights, but at least Louise was grateful to "Tifa" for saving Saito's life--and she got mad at her, not Saito (Except when Saito went out of his way to invite her to the academy). Saito doesn't make fun of Louise anymore, and not only has he confessed his love and promised to protect her, but he's tried to bed her at least twice already. That's a lot further than, say, Shana and Yuji have ever gotten!

Rising Dragon
2008-07-23, 16:48
Saito imagining Louise's would-be reaction to seeing the he and Tiffania hold hands hands was hilarious. Maybe, just maybe, the boy is finally starting to learn.

Silaqui
2008-07-23, 17:38
How could an unconcious Saito give energy to his dumb sword. I think Delfringer also said that his heart already stopped before they've reached Tifa.

That's a point, but it doesn't make my speculation less valid. In the flashback we saw how Saito used his remaining strength and his desperation for a last scream. A scream for Louise. Almost at the same time Delfringer started to glow and transported him to the forest. So why can't Saito's last burst of emotions be the trigger for the teleportation? I don't believe, that Delfringer is able to act on his own. He needs the power of Gandalfr to do these things.

Yes, Saito's heart had stopped, when Tifa found him, but it hadn't stopped, when they reached the forest.

Darknemo2000
2008-07-23, 18:19
The point is he was unconscious when Derf teleported him, and with him being unconscious he could not give the energy needed and Derf cannot store energy in itself.

Even if he started to glow Saito was still unconscious during the teleportation istelf or else we would have seen it happening (considering that this scene was bound to Saito's consciousness so that we would get more tension). So even if he started to glow once Saito becomes unconscious this glow does stops and whole teleportation becomes very questionable as Derf cannot store magic (he is not a wand).

Anh_Minh
2008-07-24, 02:36
Blood-loss induced loss of consciousness followed by cardiac arrest can do funny things to your memory. It may very well be he saw it happening, but:
- wasn't in any state to understand what was happening;
- can't remember it anyway.

He may not even remember the last moments of the battle.

Darknemo2000
2008-07-24, 04:31
As far as I understood Derflinger he said that the partner was unconscious when he teleported him meaning he was not able to give Derf his magical energy based on emotions since when you are unconscious you cannot produce any emotions, strong or weak.

Yaoi_Daisuki
2008-07-24, 07:07
i reallly hate the opening of the ed, the part where "hai . . arie nai" with the 80s cheesy bgm

Darklightz
2008-07-24, 19:11
I felt taht the ending was stupid... Come one, all nobles are coming for what? For Saito who now merely became a knight? Thats beyond stupid actually...

WAY WAY too exaggerated reaction...

Well, Saito is a war hero, a unique creature ( Comes from another world AND has the legendary Gandalfr mark...Twice!), a personal friend of the Queen and has gotten very popular at the academy. So of course he has to have his ring of toadies and butt-kissers.

A funny episode. I'm very happy that Siesta has been appointed Saito's personnal servant, as she is my favorite girl of the show. Now she finally gets to tag along in all the adventures!

And it's hilarious to see Louise's angry face as Saito's harem keeps growing. How can Louise get angry at Tiffania? She's so cute and innocent!

Ah well, I'm looking forward to some magic and action now.

Oh, and for those who are curious, here's Henrietta's orders to Siesta.

"A Lady Siesta

I command to Chevalier Saito de Hiraga shall be transferred a maid formerly in the service of Louise Francoise De La Valliere.

Glody to Tristain
Bless Us, The Heresiarque"

Bennyswan
2008-07-24, 20:52
It's hilarious to see Louise's angry face as Saito's harem keeps growing. How can Louise get angry at Tiffania? She's so cute and innocent!

Yep it is quite funny to see Louise angry :D

and Tiffania is just amazing :bow:

this show made me love elves even more =]

Deadwings
2008-07-24, 21:22
And it's hilarious to see Louise's angry face as Saito's harem keeps growing. How can Louise get angry at Tiffania? She's so cute and innocent!

Ah well, I'm looking forward to some magic and action now.

Well... I've been expecting some more magic and action since the beggining. I like the show of course, but I must say that what first caught my attention was the combination of a All-weapons-user simple human and a void magician, what was new for me as far as my anime knowledge reached at that time. I must not compare with the novels, but a plot a bit more serious won't harm anyone.

I found this chapter... quite stupid. I'm glad Saito got the title, but the reception at the academy was ridiculous. Where was the noble's pride left? I don't know if in the novels it's the same way, and if it is, I don't want to know. Yes Saito is a war hero, Gandalfr and etc, but seriously, I would have prefferred something like a show of respect from the ones who knew him, or somekind of prize given by the academy authorities. The reception party was too exagerated.
Tiffania is cute, but I hope that with time, I may be able to think something else than just cute. I also find funny seing Louise's angry face, but it became's boring when it happens every season/episode with the introduction of every single new character (and all of them seem to have bigger breasts than the last one). New jokes are always welcomed.

Really looking forward for more action and magic!

Anh_Minh
2008-07-25, 00:27
I felt taht the ending was stupid... Come one, all nobles are coming for what?
Ready to jump on any occasion to party and obey the orders of the queen? Yes.


Oh, and for those who are curious, here's Henrietta's orders to Siesta.

"A Lady Siesta

I command to Chevalier Saito de Hiraga shall be transferred a maid formerly in the service of Louise Francoise De La Valliere.

Glody to Tristain
Bless Us, The Heresiarque"

I thought she worked for the academy?

sekidousai
2008-07-25, 02:45
Ready to jump on any occasion to party and obey the orders of the queen? Yes.



I thought she worked for the academy?

Lolz... thats what i thought too... i think Siesta was doing kitchen work and serving on the academy. and on season 2 she went back to her hometown. I tought she quit being a maid. anywayz... the series just started... i hope they iron things out.

Rising Dragon
2008-07-25, 03:20
Well, she didn't quit, but its not like she could do anything while the Academy was closed for the war. After Saito "sacrificed" himself, Siesta working at the Academy is one of the first things you see.

I'm curious to see how the kitchen staff will react to Saito's new status. I don't think he can still be called "Our Sword" any longer.

Guido
2008-07-25, 14:05
Princess no Rondo is doing a conscious effort to differentiate from the previous Zero no Tsukaima entries in the franchise.

The third episode made a good job at fleshing Tiffania's personality further up, dispelling the first impressions I've got about her since her first appearance towards the end of Knights of the Twin Moons.


Witnessing her mother's brutal murder which came about an unprecedented war that likely lay the elfish nation in ruins, Tiffania grew insecure and uncertain about her own identities and the legacy of her powers passed down to her by her mother.

She spent practically all of her childhood living in seclusion fearful that venturing far away from her humble cottage would get her to the unwanted sight and contact of the outside world.

Nevertheless, Tiffania grew up at putting to practice her mother's wisdom about helping everyone in time of need.

Her timely arrival and elfish magic ensured Saito's resurrection.

Changing topic, I'll be looking forward towards the writer's decision for a possible Saito x Tiffania pairing, because both of them share many traits in common to allow for some chemistry or at least a connection, although at the moment I'm on the impression that Tiffania's mostly seems Saito as a dependable older brother to whom she can seek for advice and comfort. Since Saito's from our world and doesn't know absolutely anything about the current world, and Tiffania's from the current world but due to living in seclusion, she has no idea about it either.

Sorrow-K
2008-07-25, 22:15
Ignore the plothole (as someone mentioned earlier, there have been worse plotholes in anime) and that awful final scene which made no sense and didn't seem even remotely appropriate, I didn't mind that episode. Tifannia isn't as pointless a character as I originally anticipated. I think I have a good idea where they're going with her.I'm guessing Sheffield's master will be Tifannia's father.

All I asked of this season is that it's more enjoyable than the last, and so far it's getting there. There's probably not much they can do to recover the plot (not really what I was watching ZnT for in the first place), but at least we don't have the saturation of pointless fanservice and inanity we had in the second season.

Rising Dragon
2008-07-25, 22:59
I'm guessing Sheffield's master will be Tifannia's father.

He's not. Sheffield's master is the King of Gallia, I believe the country is. He's the king of somewhere, at the very least, and not an archduke.

teachopvutru
2008-07-25, 23:30
I suppose I'm one of the few people who aren't bothered by the scene toward the end.

They kinda jump the plot in some places, but this episode is quite enjoyable. It also seems that they are making efforts beyond the boob jokes.

Anyway, guess Tiffania will come to the Academy in the next episode. I'm more curious about Louise's dog face in the Preview, though. Dog master and dog familiar... epic pair. :D

Zodiamaster
2008-07-26, 23:33
I've watched the first two seasons and the and 3 episodes of the third season and... honestly I think it's has been getting kinda perverted for a while(started back then by the boat scene in season 2, rather than the scene, what bothered me was guy attitude).
And in season 3, it worsened even more, I think To Love-RU has less perversion than it.

HayashiTakara
2008-07-27, 01:01
Good episode, enjoyed it. Tiffania is pure <3

Saito is now a noble on top of being a decorated War Hero. I wonder if he'll get his own land and keep later?