Licensed Hatsukoi Limited [Archive]

NeoSam

2008-08-30, 07:41

The shounen manga Hatsukoi Limited by Mizuki Kawashita will be getting animated.

初恋限定。
Hatsukoi Limited

Official anime site:
http://www.j-hatsukoi.com/

The manga was serialized in the shounen manga magazine Weekly Shounen Jump (http://comipedia.com/magazine/shounen-jump).
There are 4 volumes of this manga: (the manga is finished)

Covers:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2961/07196975xi2.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1226/07201955iz3.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9398/07205159et8.jpg http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3679/07209010kb8.jpg

Mangaka: Mizuki Kawashita

Genre: Shounen, Comedy, Romance

Wiki entry for the manga:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsukoi_Limited

Shiroth

2008-08-30, 08:06

Thanks a lot NeoSam. :)

Now, one has to wonder how they'll handle this. I mean will the anime tell the story just like the manga in the same order? That's probably the best thing to do, and 12/13 episodes could be just the right amount of episodes for the job.

I hope this anime adaptation will do the job though, unlike Ichigo 100%'s adaptation.

Moonie

2008-08-30, 08:22

No news yet on which studio will handle this?

D a m i e n

2008-08-30, 08:54

Lol wasnt this thing was cut short by Jump, and it s receiving an anime adaption.
I sure hope they arent going to fag up the ending like the manga was and that they are going to reduce the cast cause there were so many useless character (art club girl, swimming club girl, kappa guy etc etc).

Shiroth

2008-08-30, 08:59

that they are going to reduce the cast cause there were so many useless character (art club girl, swimming club girl, kappa guy etc etc).
What? The art girls story was one of my favorites from the manga. Such a sweet story, and i'd love to see it animated.

Supah Em

2008-08-30, 09:20

The only thing that kept me going in this series is the conflict between Kei and that "Pickle" girl ( Can't forget that! :heh: ) over that Kappa guy. Seriously, Tsunderes have a mean streak in my books and it doesnt seem to be ending anytime soon.

My only wish for this series is that they should have an anime original ending. Seriously, the manga's ending screamed "axed" and no matter how much they cover it up.... jeez.

maximilianjenus

2008-08-30, 09:30

see the plus side of this, the manga was being published in shounen jump and it might have gotten cancelled because it did not fit with the people that buy that; but by being adapted to tv, it can have an even broader public and hit better than the manga did; thus probably expanding the history.

Supah Em

2008-08-30, 09:41

Plus the girl's art is pure love <3

Kawashita creates the best girls in terms of art.

NeoSam

2008-08-30, 09:58

Yeah, the bishoujos she draws are very cute :)

I was so hoping for her one shot manga "Akiiro Bousou Biyori" to get a full manga series >_< the bishoujo in that manga is very cute :love:

Waven

2008-08-30, 11:14

I agree, her way of drawing cute girls is still my favorite on the market. It was actually my main reason for reading the series since the plot was so-so going from overkill to boring character arcs (i liked the one with the art girl though) to being too normal and predictive icing the cake with a cut ending thanks to jump.

As for the anime announcement, i'm really looking forward to it it's just that i'm pretty suprised for such a short running manga to get animated, dunno how common this is though. It would be great if the story got expanded bythe anime but honestly i'm not putting too much hope in that i'll be glad for anything we get ;)

Shiroth

2008-08-30, 13:49

Plus the girl's art is pure love <3

Kawashita creates the best girls in terms of art.
Indeed, and i was quite pleased with her creations in anime format (Ichigo 100%). I still say to this day that Nishino with longish hair is the most beautiful looking girl i've ever seen.

& let's not forget Aya.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9157/omake403lr9.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omake403lr9.jpg)

ZODDGUTS

2008-08-30, 16:53

Like I said in the other thread hope they do certain things differently in the anime, did not like how the characters were introduce in the manga made it hard to remember their names and confusing as to who was the main character(s) or if it was going to follow anyone specifiably. Also concentrate more on the interesting characters or even cut certain characters because they weren't interesting at all.

The manga was decent but not something I was excited about nor do I plan on re-reading it. I guess I'll watch a few episodes if it's exactly the same as the manga was then I won't be watching till series to the end.

Waven

2008-08-30, 17:51

... I still say to this day that Nishino with longish hair is the most beautiful looking girl i've ever seen.
...

I triple second that :) .. for quite some time now if anyone would have asked for my favorite manga/anime girl I'd named her without hesitation.

golthin

2008-09-04, 13:33

Thanks a lot NeoSam. :)

I hope this anime adaptation will do the job though, unlike Ichigo 100%'s adaptation.

the problem with ichigo 100% was that the manga was still ongoing when the anime ended.
Hatsukoi Unlimited already ended, so you really have to be inept to mess up an adaptation on a finished manga.

I was really happy with the way everything ended in hatsukoi unlimited, the only pairing i didn't like of the three definite pairings was the one between

Kusuda and Enomoto

Shiroth

2008-09-04, 17:22

the problem with ichigo 100% was that the manga was still ongoing when the anime ended.
I know what the problem was, though i never said i disliked the anime adaptation --- i enjoyed it very much. Mainly because of my strong love for the manga.

NeoSam

2008-10-15, 13:35

The anime adaptation of the shounen manga Hatsukoi Limited has been confirmed:
http://comics-news.shueisha.co.jp/common/hatsukoi/
http://comics-news.shueisha.co.jp/common/hatsukoi/cast.html

Edit:
I updated the first post with the 4th and last volume of the manga.

Shiroth

2008-10-15, 13:37

I can say i'm perfectly happy with that cast choice.

solomon

2008-10-15, 16:34

This was a cute shonen jump manga. I hope the maintain the integrety of Kawashita's designs in the anime decently enough.

Odd though, I did think this title burned up the charts enough to warrant an anime version.

NoOneKnowS

2008-10-16, 05:46

I wish they make an original ending and actually give everyone........someone. Yamamoto? and that lollipop guy (lol; I think I need to reread this manga) was my fav. though they had little to no interactions throughout the whole manga. Well at least the ending gave me quite a good feeling on where their relationship is going.

Anyways; any new news from this? Like the airing dates or anime chara designs?

golthin

2008-10-16, 11:45

Westlo

2008-10-17, 02:26

^ If it had gone ten volumes I'm pretty sure that couple wouldn't have happened but when you have to end something in a few weeks... I'm hoping the anime takes the first few chapters and runs with it, copying the manga would be fail.

Shiroth

2008-10-17, 05:05

copying the manga would be fail.
Naah not if you ask me. I hope they use the manga material, and maybe add a few pieces of new material here and there.

The manga material would be enough for a12/13 episode series.

NoOneKnowS

2008-10-17, 05:38

Naah not if you ask me. I hope they use the manga material, and maybe add a few pieces of new material here and there.

The manga material would be enough for a12/13 episode series.

Not enough if they decide to develop all the characters. Though yeah; stick w/ manga material and expand them more. That's what I'm hoping for. And of course, a clear and acceptable end.

Waven

2008-10-17, 06:12

Naah not if you ask me. I hope they use the manga material, and maybe add a few pieces of new material here and there.

The manga material would be enough for a12/13 episode series.

Maybe they could make the beginning less jumpy and confusing :rolleyes:

Shiroth

2008-10-17, 06:21

Maybe they could make the beginning less jumpy and confusing :rolleyes:
Well that's all down to the readers, because i didn't find it confusing. I'm sure you did because you weren't used to the huge cast, and how it kept switching between their a different characters story each chapter.

I was fine with that --- it's actually something new and i loved it.

ZODDGUTS

2008-10-17, 07:11

Maybe they could make the beginning less jumpy and confusing :rolleyes:

Also cut out the crappy/uninteresting characters.

Shiroth

2008-10-17, 07:39

Also cut out the crappy/uninteresting characters.
No i don't think so.

Waven

2008-10-17, 08:07

Well that's all down to the readers, because i didn't find it confusing. I'm sure you did because you weren't used to the huge cast, and how it kept switching between their a different characters story each chapter.

I was fine with that --- it's actually something new and i loved it.

That's your opinion, fact is though the series lost alot of readers after the the first plot jump . It's not really that i couldn't follow the context but it can be rather annoying not to have a clear line of focus on few characters and relationships in the beginning and gradually raise the cast as the story progresses. Me? I still liked it but someone not as dedicated to the author might be turned off immediately which doesn't necessarily mean Kawashita's method was an undebatable mistake (rather a stylistic feature) but as an artist who is depending on her audience i find it quite risky and i do believe it was the first nail in the coffin.

Shiroth

2008-10-17, 08:08

Wow that's my opinion? I never knew that.

ZODDGUTS

2008-10-17, 08:34

No i don't think so.

Yeah I think so. Considering that many readers bailed out on the series for being not that great, one flaw being that not all the characters were interesting. Not that surprising that it cause the readers to lose interest in the series causing it to be cancelled ouch. Hopefully whoever is animating this fixes the manga's flaws. It has potential to be good it just needs to take out the crap that the manga had. :)

TrueKnight

2008-10-17, 08:53

I'm one of the many readers who bailed out on the series. There're valid reasons why the series got cancelled, not so great characters were one of them. Heck, in later chapters it becomes alot more shoujoish... No surprise here.

The biggest surprise was Mx0 cancellation though which happen being the same time. -_-

Anyway if it does become an anime, I hope they somehow made it like KimiKiss minus the harem...

Waven

2008-10-18, 07:21

Wow that's my opinion? I never knew that.

Your opinion is that it wasn't confusing but was even more appealing this way, i just tried to show that there's more to this element of narration than that when taking a more general look on it... but thanks for the one line reply anyway...

frubam

2008-10-19, 01:57

Yeah I think so. Considering that many readers bailed out on the series for being not that great, one flaw being that not all the characters were interesting. :) I dont' think the issue was so much the chars themselves as opposed to changing the viewpoint all over. Personally, I took awhile to get into because of that, but once I got a general gist of all the characters, I started to get into it.

SidVicious

2008-10-21, 12:28

Any release dates for the anime?

DragoonKain3

2008-10-21, 12:56

Can anyone pretty please translate the cast list? Pretty pretty pretty please? Have mercy on us who can't read moonrunes. :heh:

golthin

2008-10-24, 11:48

Also cut out the crappy/uninteresting characters.

I agree with this. I think the manga didn't do well with the readers because it had too many characters that you really didn't give a crap about. the ugly and older brother was one of them.
The kappa guy was another one.

naruto6302

2008-11-06, 16:37

i really wonder y this series get animated and mx0 didnt, mx0 iS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than this series story and character wise, i mean this series also got cancelled, it's not like it still ongoing so i wonder y

Fran~

2008-11-06, 16:42

I agree with this. I think the manga didn't do well with the readers because it had too many characters that you really didn't give a crap about. the ugly and older brother was one of them.
The kappa guy was another one.

I have no troubles with that, the history is so simple and beautiful...
Kawashita sensei sure is awesome. I was really frustrated when the manga ended.

Akumetsu

2008-11-09, 01:28

yeah she is awesome though she makes alot of oneshots and short series. looking forward to her next series.

musume_no_hoshi

2008-11-09, 06:29

I happened to be one of the few that liked it for having different characters for each chapter, I just read it as a series of different one shots. Also I don't think it really matters whether you know which character is related to who, I never remember who is related to who, but I was still able to understand and enjoy the story. Although I do agree it gets really really really shoujo towards to end...but I'm a shoujo fan, so I shall not complain.

For some reason, I can't see this manga being animated. It doesn't feel like an anime material. Anime with really large casts almost never work ._.''

Cinocard

2008-11-09, 20:19

Not enough if they decide to develop all the characters. Though yeah; stick w/ manga material and expand them more. That's what I'm hoping for. And of course, a clear and acceptable end.

I believe that's what they will do. After all, the manga was cut off, not the mangaka that ran out of idea. I'm sure they will call for much help in script writing from Kawashita sensei

seiji_kun

2008-11-12, 06:23

Ichigo 100% is my favorite romance manga (anime doesn't come close to it) but I can't say I was a big fan of Hatsukoi Limited. Rather the opposite, it was such a stupid manga that I couldn't believe that I was reading something from the same author as Ichigo 100ù. I'd rather seem them animate animate Ichigo 100% further from the point that the first season ended rather then seeing this animated.

NeoSam

2008-12-20, 05:46

An official site for the anime:
http://www.j-hatsukoi.com/

Shiroth

2008-12-20, 15:25

Official website (http://www.j-hatsukoi.com/) as opened.
NeoSam already posted the link this before, in fact it's the post before yours.

kyouray

2008-12-20, 17:30

NeoSam already posted the link this before, in fact it's the post before yours.
Damn I've forgot to read the previous post because I was in a hurry...
Sorry for the bother.
By the way the chara-design by Tomoyuki SHITAYA (下谷智之) (Night Wizard The Animation) is quite nice.

Staff :
Director : Yoshiki YAMAKAWA (山川吉樹)
Script : Mariko KUNISAWA ( 國澤真理子)
Character Design : Tomoyuki SHITAYA (下谷智之)
Sound director : Jin AKETAGAWA (明田川仁)
Animation Production : J. C. Staff

musume_no_hoshi

2008-12-22, 09:45

With J.C staff, we can expect some really nice animation with the first few episodes, and the last few episodes. They usually downgrade around the middle episodes.

The character designs look really good, the character designer captured the manga's art style perfectly. If only Kasai was directing this :heh:

This manga felt more like a shoujo manga then a shounen-romance manga, but I have a feeling the anime would make it more on the shounen-romance side. I doubt this anime would be a master piece, but I don't think it'll go awful either.

SidVicious

2009-01-09, 06:14

Trailer!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-01-09/hatsukoi-limited-anime-advance-promo-movie-posted

frubam

2009-01-09, 09:21

Trailer!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-01-09/hatsukoi-limited-anime-advance-promo-movie-posted

Looks like the animation quality is going to be pretty good. No male representation in the trailer kinda sucks, but the animation style closely resembles the manga anyways, so I can picture how they would look like. Still wouldn't mind knowing how Mamoru's and Kusuda's voices are. Seeing the trailer, this is gonna be something to look forward to.

musume_no_hoshi

2009-01-09, 15:19

I hope J.C Staff would give it a Kimikiss feel too it, with the watercolour backgrounds. Seiyuu work seems fine.

J.C Staff can do good animation when they put the effort in, such as the first episode and the last few episodes.

-Sho-

2009-01-09, 17:20

So its not like Ichigo 100% right? Ichigo 100% would be better if they keep the anime !
Hatsukoi's story is about 7 girls who talks about her life?

ThoHell

2009-01-09, 18:28

Midonin

2009-01-09, 18:31

I am half-clueless on most of this, but the voice cast and the fact that some part of me can't get enough of the "group of high school girls" genre means I'm in for this regardless. The promo looked pretty good.

Shiroth

2009-01-09, 18:41

So its not like Ichigo 100% right? Ichigo 100% would be better if they keep the anime !
Hatsukoi's story is about 7 girls who talks about her life?
It's a love story. The manga tells the story of each girl falling in love (or already in love), and they all link together.

musume_no_hoshi

2009-01-13, 15:16

I personally would say it was more like a series of different one shots, although the most memorable are those 7 girls that's on the trailer, the story is focused on one or two girls at the time. Each chapter is in a different perspective, sometimes the girl, sometimes the boy. Towards the end, the casts and story weave into one story.

The cast is ALOT larger, I can never remember the names. It has a really strong shoujo vibe, there is certainately fanservice, but I find most chapters quite bearable. (not the biggest fan of fanservice, and pun not intended)

Eak

2009-01-21, 23:49

Yes! Found out about this not too long! I (like many others here) is only interested in the art girl story being animated!

miyagi-sempai

2009-02-10, 06:42

Mm...I've still busy reading the manga (currently at Ch11) and I agree with some of you about the number of characters, and the difficulty in remembering all of them. I myself had to stare at that one scan, the one of the 5 girls with their names below them, for a while before I could memorise them all. I don't think many people would try this, so there are most likely going to be many people who get annoyed with the manga jumping around so often.

In my opinion, the first few chapters should have introduced all the characters as a whole to give people a better idea about how they are all connected. Then once the characters situations have been properly established, the story could focus on each character individually, and at the end show how they all come together. But then again, I'm no mangaka or story teller, so my opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Personally, I'm not really bothered with the jumping around of the manga, since it gives me more reason to reread the chapters, something I never did with a manga before, with the result that I have a deeper understanding of each characters role in the story.

I just get a little annoyed at that one guy, I'm not sure what his name is, but he's got glasses and he rants about how girls should disregard a guys looks and instead focus what's on the inside. I can't stand him, not that I don't like him, but because the things he does is just too embarassing.

And then there's Dobashi Rika. What the hell happened to her skin colour. I mean, in the first chapter her skin was almost pale, but then suddenly in the following chapters, it's like she had a tan that went wrong. I was actually expecting the story to explain the sudden change in her complexion. I really had trouble trying to visualize Rika in colour, but after seeing that Movie Promo, I guess I'm a lot more happier.

About the anime adaptation, I'm actually looking forward to it, but I also agree with some of you that the plot should be rearranged a little to make it more follow-able. I'm happy with the character design in the movie promo, as well as the voice cast. The voices really suit the characters, especially Ayumi...She's so damn cute.

:eek: Whoa...I didn't realise I was talking so much...Mm...but I'm really bad at summarising. I guess you guys will just have to suffer... :innocent:

physics223

2009-02-10, 22:24

rg4619

2009-02-11, 01:56

So long as the majority of the staff that creates this series is the staff that did Honey and Clover, Honey and Clover II, or Kimikiss, I wouldn't worry too much. They made good manga (in H&C) and subpar manga (Kimikiss) shine with brilliance. I doubt they would screw up a finished manga like this.

The lead staff seem fairly fresh. Overall, I don't think that's a bad thing......after all, the industry needs to cultivate up and coming talent, which is partly suppressed by Japanese corporate culture.

However, this also suggests that the producers/sponsors and studio don't expect a lot from the project, which isn't entirely unreasonable (manga run cut short due to lack of popularity?). We'll just have to wait and see how the team handles this show.

physics223

2009-02-11, 05:19

I believe the director was involved with storyboarding and direction of some Mushishi and Honey and Clover episodes. That's not too bad. :)

Midonin

2009-02-23, 00:55

Shiny new website makeover (http://www.j-hatsukoi.com/), if a little heavy on the Flash.

We also have an airdate of 4/11. It's a 4-1-1, so it's obviously something important to know.

Eak

2009-02-24, 04:08

Any word on fansub groups picking up this series?

Copycatken

2009-02-25, 12:02

I'm looking forward to this anime, but as Shiroth mentioned, I hope it won't be butchered and mishandled like the Ichigo 100% anime. I especially hope they don't add original content like the Ichigo 100% OAVs *shivers*.

As for the series itself, depending on how the characters are introduced, I fear it'll all become too confusing. In the manga, I was totally confused about who was who for the first 10 chapters, since there was such a huge cast of characters shoved into our faces at the same time. And also, with only 12/13 episodes, will they be able to flesh out all the relationships properly?

Anyways, I hope Misaki Yamamoto gets a lot of airtime. :)

Westlo

2009-02-27, 02:05

And also, with only 12/13 episodes, will they be able to flesh out all the relationships properly?

Of course they won't but with hardly any relationships fleshed out at least it stay true to the manga! If any series needed a massive rewrite from manga to anime this is one of them. Lilim Kiss would've been a better choice to animate than this..

Copycatken

2009-02-27, 09:12

Of course they won't but with hardly any relationships fleshed out at least it stay true to the manga! If any series needed a massive rewrite from manga to anime this is one of them. Lilim Kiss would've been a better choice to animate than this..

As you say, since none of the relationships go very far, the anime will indeed be frustrating to watch since we'll be stuck with multiple "potential" relationships that are not going to happen or are going nowhere. I'm guessing the best compromise will be to stick to the manga but drop some of the relationships in order to only focus on two or three of them. So you'd relegate main characters from the manga down to supporting roles in the anime. If you do a total rewrite, then you run the chance of the writers screwing up the already weak story of the show.

@Eak: According to this (http://www.fansubwiki.com/Who_Subs_What:_SPRING_2009) website, AnimeYoshi is going to sub the show.

Fran~

2009-02-27, 09:38

WOAH... im so looking forward for this...

I really like it, bad thing the abrupt ending, but there is material for some decent show, nothing fancy, but fun.

To see Misaki animated... or arguments between Enomoto and Kusuda... golden!.

Cinocard

2009-02-27, 12:55

As you say, since none of the relationships go very far, the anime will indeed be frustrating to watch since we'll be stuck with multiple "potential" relationships that are not going to happen or are going nowhere. I'm guessing the best compromise will be to stick to the manga but drop some of the relationships in order to only focus on two or three of them. So you'd relegate main characters from the manga down to supporting roles in the anime. If you do a total rewrite, then you run the chance of the writers screwing up the already weak story of the show.

If they stay too true to the manga, yeah it would be a huge let down for me. I was incredibly annoyed when the manga was axed.

If they let out several couple, it's still a let down, as I feel like it's lacking something. And nothing guaranteed that my favorite ones will be chosen.

The only way that it would satisfy me is that they will do a 26 ep run. If it turns out good, all is fine. If not, I'm not the one to suffer :cool: The studio can always consult Kawashita sensei of what would happen after where the manga ended. I'm sure she had come up with something for that.

Midonin

2009-03-01, 16:45

The ED, titled the same as the series, has been confirmed to be sung by marble.

Source. (http://www.animate-shop.jp/ws/commodity_param/ctc/cd/shc/0/cmc/4106754/backURL/http(++www.animate-shop.jp+ws+main)

The OP has been confirmed to be "Future Stream" by the new seiyuu unit Sphere (http://www.planet-sphere.jp/), which consists of Aki Toyosaki, Haruka Tomatsu, Ayahi Takagaki and Minako Kotobuki.

I knew they were being formed for something.

Nosauz

2009-03-03, 11:50

it really depends on the amount of episodes this series gets, if its the speculated 13, I really don't think its possible to do much better than the manga because the main problem with the manga is that it ended prematurely. The concept is pretty cool, the notion of the six degrees of connections between people.

d4v1d_su

2009-03-10, 09:52

Hatsukoi Limited Promo.
I love the BMG

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InternetHaetMachine

2009-03-11, 02:04

sugoi! makes me excited to watch this.

Viola C

2009-03-14, 07:31

I actually like this manga quite a bit. I've just finished reading it, to be honest, and I can't wait to see the anime. The promo seems very nice at least. It's not really the deepest or most well-constructed story in the world, but... the girls are cute? I can't even pick my favorite one.

Shiroth

2009-03-14, 07:36

Personally i'm looking forward to seeing how the anime plans to handle each characters story. If they'll just keep doing one after another, or split a few up like the manga did.

Copycatken

2009-03-14, 23:53

Personally i'm looking forward to seeing how the anime plans to handle each characters story. If they'll just keep doing one after another, or split a few up like the manga did.

I sure hope they split it up. If it's just one relationship after another, the series will feel like 3-4 disjointed story arcs glued together to make a show.

Shiroth

2009-03-15, 08:51

I sure hope they split it up. If it's just one relationship after another, the series will feel like 3-4 disjointed story arcs glued together to make a show.
Yeah, going about it how the manga did is the safest bet.

Midonin

2009-03-17, 15:37

Just heard the OP - "Future Stream" - on Nicovideo. It's easy on the ears and a fun song, fitting for the genre. I'm a bit more excited for the show now.

Kaoru Chujo

2009-03-17, 18:34

I'm going to be watching ep1, but the named staff doesn't have much cross-over with Honey & Clover. The writer did Disgaea, and the director is doing his first show, having done a lot of animation work and storyboards for two eps of Mushishi and one of Elemental Gelade. I myself could never get into the manga.

It's the cast I find attractive, with Ise Mariya, Toyosaki Aki and Fujimura Ayumi all young half-known names who seem to do a good job of whatever they try. I'm a big Gotou Saori fan, too.

Nosauz

2009-03-17, 18:47

I myself could never get into the manga.

Didn't miss much, truncated and in the end in its rushed ending never really brought any closure, also this work needed a large number of chapters to really develop the character relationships which were sparse at best when it ended, thats why i have my reserved skepticism for this show.

relentlessflame

2009-03-17, 22:24

By the way, I reminder to everyone to please avoid posting any manga spoilers in this thread. The manga thread is over here.

Fandal

2009-03-29, 14:25

Is Yuu in the anime? Yamamoto's hair, why isn't it as airy :(

Midonin

2009-04-03, 20:31

If anyone wants to get a feel for the OP, the first verse of it is streaming on sphere (http://www.planet-sphere.jp/)'s home page.

SidVicious

2009-04-06, 16:50

There's an episode 00 floating around right now.

Midonin

2009-04-06, 16:54

I think it's another one of those pre-show specials.

SidVicious

2009-04-06, 16:58

I'm downloading to see if it's real or not.

SageGaiGar

2009-04-06, 17:05

Real premiere should be April 11th

SidVicious

2009-04-06, 17:06

Real premiere should be April 11th

Yeah, that's why is strange to see this episode 00.

SidVicious

2009-04-06, 17:45

It was a nice special. :)

frubam

2009-04-08, 21:44

So what's this ep 00 about? And why are people using two zeros?

Midonin

2009-04-08, 21:46

Just a pre-show special hosted by Shizuka Itou and Mariya Ise. Mostly a promotional deal.

Fran~

2009-04-08, 22:03

i really want to see kei and kusuda fights :heh:

golthin

2009-04-08, 22:04

I am not looking forward to this show and it is the only show I plan to skip this season. I know it will end differently from the manga and I was satisfied on how the manga ended. I am sure the main girl (in the manga there was not such thing) will end with the "stalker".

serenade_beta

2009-04-11, 13:04

Never read the manga, but...

It was surprisingly entertaining. A rather stereotypical story, but the gags were funny, the character designs were good (decent?), and it didn't get boring through the episode.
Not really sure what to expect in the future with so many girls in the OP though... Can't really judge with one episode, but as long as it stays at this episode's quality, OK, OK~

Though I have to say, I couldn't tell how to take the ending part with the kidnapper threatening to take off Ayumi's panties... Should I cheer for him? Gag scene? Serious? Anyways, it was entertaining in its own way, but I was left with an "Oka~y, what was that?" type of feeling...

Only ended up remembering Ayumi and Misao's name...

Ah-ah, felt sorry for Misao... Treated like a monster by everyone. (-_-)
These type of reactions always feel... too exaggerated.

But it was fun. Looking forward to the next episode. Don't know how it will turn out though... And it is JC Staff, after all. Ah-ah, JC... *mutter* *mutter*

Though I can't really say I liked the OP/ED themes. Though the cosplay in the ED left me laughing... Why cosplay? *laugh*

EDIT: AHHH?!! Not just Akikan, but even this has the extra part with real people?! Uwee...

4get

2009-04-11, 15:11

Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L75EKXx57Q&fmt=35

Ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOY6YIfyEE4&fmt=35

SidVicious

2009-04-11, 17:18

Nice first ep. :)

Astrana

2009-04-11, 20:49

i only read few volume of the manga, got too confused with character relations, but i loved it and was looking forward to see the anime.

Just watched first episode, it is sooooo good. i loled so many times.... defenitly following this show

Mei

2009-04-11, 21:08

I concur with the others who have commented on the first episode. I found it enjoyable and funny.

On the other hand I found it dry on the romance side. But still enjoyable.

Do you think each episode is going to be about a different girl or something? Just curious, and never read the manga.

Astrana

2009-04-11, 21:12

ThoHell

2009-04-11, 22:56

I got to admit, that was a lot more interesting animated than the manga. I might actually be able to watch this series and enjoy it.....

golthin

2009-04-12, 00:18

deffusse

2009-04-12, 03:51

eh
OP & ED >> realy bad
Seiyu >> wtf? [ok the char. are realy cute , cute as ever but what's with those voices? Definitely not fit]
Char. >> a little bit different from manga [manga=better]

the other features are ok, it wasn't bad but.... 7/10

Shiroth

2009-04-12, 05:27

Just so new viewers knows, the manga is basically a collection of short stories based around each girl in the story, trying to find love. If you're shocked as to why there's such a huge cast, well now you know. :3

Do you think each episode is going to be about a different girl or something? Just curious, and never read the manga.
I hope it is, because i don't see how else they'd go about doing it. We will find out for sure next episode i guess.

golthin

2009-04-12, 06:00

Just so new viewers knows, the manga is basically a collection of short stories based around each girl in the story, trying to find love. If you're shocked as to why there's such a huge cast, well now you know. :3

I hope it is, because i don't see how else they'd go about doing it. We will find out for sure next episode i guess.

Actually, all the stories are intertwined in some way. They are making the show more about the girls, but in the manga it was about the girls and the guys. Some of the stories were viewed from the pespective of the guys in the manga too. I guess that might be the main difference between the manga and the anime, the stories will be seen from the girls' point of view.

this show has a brother complex character and a sister complex character.

Midonin

2009-04-12, 06:04

It's only been one episode with a chapter that was primarily from Ayumi's point of view to begin with. How are we certain that the guys' focus will be cut?

Shiroth

2009-04-12, 06:06

It's only been one episode with a chapter that was primarily from Ayumi's point of view to begin with. How are we certain that the guys' focus will be cut?
Yeah i was wondering that. There's no certain.

& golthin, yes i know that --- though i didn't want to explain it fully until we actually start to see that part appear in the anime adaptation.

golthin

2009-04-12, 06:06

It's only been one episode with a chapter that was primarily from Ayumi's point of view to begin with. How are we certain that the guys' focus will be cut?

Don't know yet, but I get the feeling that it will go that way. I hope I am wrong because that was one of the things i Liked about the manga.

Shiroth

2009-04-12, 06:10

Don't know yet, but I get the feeling that it will go that way. I hope I am wrong because that was one of the things i Liked about the manga.
Not sure where the feeling has come from, though going by the first episode i don't think it will happen. Like i said, we'll know next episode thanks to the preview for episode three.

golthin

2009-04-12, 06:29

Not sure where the feeling has come from, though going by the first episode i don't think it will happen. Like i said, we'll know next episode thanks to the preview for episode three.

well, mostly from the opening and a few other little things. I hope you are right and I am wrong.

Waven

2009-04-12, 09:37

golthin

2009-04-12, 09:52

Looks good so far. Any news about a fansub group picking this up? And could someone tell me who's the goth loli character shown in the ED next to the theater girl cause i can't remember her appearing in the manga but then again it's been some time since i read it?

I think she might be an Anime original character because I don't remember her either. I actually think that they have 2 anime original characters.( I don't remember the girl with glasses) the blonde girl with long hair's younger sister didn't appear too much in the manga. she appeared just a few times to make fun of her sister when she wore certain dress, but it seems she might have a bigger role in the anime.

Waven

2009-04-12, 10:06

I think she might be an Anime original character because I don't remember her either. I actually think that they have 2 anime original characters.( I don't remember the girl with glasses) the blonde girl with long hair's younger sister didn't appear too much in the manga. she appeared just a few times to make fun of her sister when she wore certain dress, but it seems she might have a bigger role in the anime.

The girl with glasses and pigtails is the said girl from the theatre club that tries to make kappa-boy (forgot his name) perform in one of the club's plays and therefor makes Enomoto jealous.

golthin

2009-04-12, 10:10

The girl with glasses and pigtails is the said girl from the theatre club that tries to make kappa-boy (forgot his name) perform in one of the club's plays and therefor makes Enomoto jealous.

I am talking about the girl with short bright hair in the ED. Not the one with pigtails.
She is second or third from left to right in the shot where they show all the girls together.

Waven

2009-04-12, 10:17

I am talking about the girl with short bright hair in the ED. Not the one with pigtails.
She is second or third from right to left in the shot where they show all the girls together.

Sry but this seems to be a no-brainer and you'll probably feel ashamed while having an aaahh-effect once you realize: she's the swimming club girl, the one that has a complex about having too much breast :heh:

golthin

2009-04-12, 10:26

Sry but this seems to be a no-brainer and you'll probably feel ashamed while having an aaahh-effect once you realize: she's the swimming club girl, the one that has a complex about having too much breast :heh:

yep, I remember now. So only the goth girl is unaccounted for.

Koops

2009-04-12, 10:34

thats her swimming rival. She first appears in chap 25.

golthin

2009-04-12, 10:42

thats her swimming rival. She first appears in chap 25.

Roger... All girls accounted for. I think the reason i didn't remember them was that the swiming club angle was the less memorable of the plots for me.

Waven

2009-04-12, 12:40

Roger... All girls accounted for. I think the reason i didn't remember them was that the swiming club angle was the less memorable of the plots for me.

Ye i agree, found it to be pretty boring and i think this arc was the last nail in the coffin for HL manga :upset:

Who

2009-04-12, 12:56

Still iffy if I want to watch this or not. I'm afraid I might get disappointed over the series of the course like I did with the manga.

Midonin

2009-04-12, 21:14

The first subs (by m.3.3.w) are out.

Ashlotte

2009-04-12, 22:00

Just so new viewers knows, the manga is basically a collection of short stories based around each girl in the story, trying to find love. If you're shocked as to why there's such a huge cast, well now you know. :3

I hope it is, because i don't see how else they'd go about doing it. We will find out for sure next episode i guess.

Thank you for that Shiroth...Was thinking they were trying to make a run at a Negima sized harem here or something after seeing the OP/ED. :heh:

Mmm kinda sad though that their short stories...I tend to enjoy those types of things, but then I feel disappointed that they never return to old characters or give them much focus especially seeing as the first pair we got was pretty fun to watch.

I always was a sucker for misunderstood delinquents though...*crosses fingers that next episode I'll be as amusing* :p

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-12, 23:10

I thought that was pretty well-done and frequently amusing - a solid "B" for me. Confirms for me that the mangaka definitely has a pantsu fetish, and it was interesting to see a scene from Asu no Yoichi played out almost exactly here - involving the kidnapping of a girl with almost the identical name...

Fandal

2009-04-13, 01:37

What happened to the manga that caused it to fail? Was the story bad? From the way they do it, it looks very interesting.

ZODDGUTS

2009-04-13, 02:25

What happened to the manga that caused it to fail? Was the story bad? From the way they do it, it looks very interesting.

The way the characters introduce made it confusing for readers to know who where suppose to be the main characters , bad pacing, not knowing if the stories would be stand alone stories or continous, some uninteresting characters and relationships made the readers of Shonen Jump lose interest thus getting an early ending.

golthin

2009-04-13, 02:37

What happened to the manga that caused it to fail? Was the story bad? From the way they do it, it looks very interesting.

some stories were uninteresting, it had a pretty good rhythm in the beginning. the manga was trying too many different type of things about first loves at the same time. People that liked one plotline didn't like the new ones ones and by the time the author got back to the other plotlines people had already moved on. As an example, I could have cared less about the swimming club plotline and the tennis club couple, for me the manga went down hill from there. I even couldn't remember the girls from the swimming club. I only remembered the girl from the tennis club because she stand out from all the other girls with her tan, specially in the ending with the cat girl suit.

totalnet

2009-04-13, 02:39

How did they get away with this scene?

http://g.imagehost.org/0045/snapshot20090413003538.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0045/snapshot20090413003538)

golthin

2009-04-13, 02:45

How did they get away with this scene?

http://g.imagehost.org/0045/snapshot20090413003538.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0045/snapshot20090413003538)

she is dressed. Jeez, that is nothing compared to what you can see in TV. There is a difference from Nudity and that. You consider that NSFW? I would consider a panty shot more shocking than that. I also think that it was toned down from the manga, i think she was wearing an skirt and panties showed when that happened in the manga.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-13, 03:44

The way the characters introduce made it confusing for readers to know who where suppose to be the main characters , bad pacing, not knowing if the stories would be stand alone stories or continous, some uninteresting characters and relationships made the readers of Shonen Jump lose interest thus getting an early ending.

What this series tried to do is not have a focal main character, rather its just about a group of girls and guys going through their first loves. So you can consider all of them to be the main cast.

Waven

2009-04-13, 03:53

Shiroth

2009-04-13, 05:42

The way the characters introduce made it confusing for readers to know who where suppose to be the main characters , bad pacing, not knowing if the stories would be stand alone stories or continous, some uninteresting characters and relationships made the readers of Shonen Jump lose interest thus getting an early ending.
Wait, you actually thought there was a single main character? :heh:

It was made obvious towards the beginning that this is one of those stories where they are all main characters. You know, one shot stories that are all connected.

golthin

2009-04-13, 06:04

Wait, you actually thought there was a single main character? :heh:

It was made obvious towards the beginning that this is one of those stories where they are all main characters. You know, one shot stories that are all connected.

they were not one shot story and they were. that is what confused the readers imho.
the mangaka was trying to go for something similar to "boys be boys" or "girlfriends" and it failed.

ZODDGUTS

2009-04-13, 06:46

they were not one shot story and they were. that is what confused the readers imho.
the mangaka was trying to go for something similar to "boys be boys" or "girlfriends" and it failed.

That's what I thought as well thinking it would be something akin to boys be... mainly one shot stories and not continous stories because that's how it looked early on. But that it didn't turn out to be that way till several chapters later on when the same characters showed up again to continue their story perspective even further then I expected.

Shiroth

2009-04-13, 06:48

If though some of the stories are split into a few chapters, it's still known as a collection of one shot stories that are all connected.

It brings such a smile to my face seeing how well Mizuki Kawashita's original designs are captured in this adaptation. Not as beautiful as the original, though there's always something you can't beat. Just seeing the oh so beautiful Yamamoto in the preview, gives me high hopes for this adaptation. Tanaka Rie is a good choice to voice her.

Copycatken

2009-04-13, 09:46

I watched the first episode and was quite pleased with what I saw. It followed the manga closely (from what I can recall of it anyways) and it definitely hooked me in. Just like in the manga though, I was once again totally overwhelmed by all the characters that were thrown at us. I can barely remember the name of anybody, except for Ayumi and Zaitsu who were the two characters that the episode focused on.

It brings such a smile to my face seeing how well Mizuki Kawashita's original designs are captured in this adaptation. Not as beautiful as the original, though there's always something you can't beat.

I totally agree with this, the drawings are quite faithful to the manga. Can't wait for next week, since the preview showed that the focus will be on Yamamoto <3

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-13, 10:30

This is an interesting discussion. What the story brought to mind for me was something along the lines of a grown-up version of Kyo No Go No Ni - with the romance and ecchi turned up to a middle school/HS level.

Episodic stories are always a tough sell, especially when they involve romance and even more when they don't involve a single main character. It's not what people are used to and it's interesting to me that this was made into an anime at all. We'll see how it goes over with the viewing public.

khryoleoz

2009-04-13, 10:40

she is dressed. Jeez, that is nothing compared to what you can see in TV. There is a difference from Nudity and that. You consider that NSFW? I would consider a panty shot more shocking than that. I also think that it was toned down from the manga, i think she was wearing an skirt and panties showed when that happened in the manga.
She was wearing the same thing in the manga. But I think what's provocative here is that they've really outlined the camel toe.

some stories were uninteresting, it had a pretty good rhythm in the beginning. the manga was trying too many different type of things about first loves at the same time. People that liked one plotline didn't like the new ones ones and by the time the author got back to the other plotlines people had already moved on. As an example, I could have cared less about the swimming club plotline and the tennis club couple, for me the manga went down hill from there. I even couldn't remember the girls from the swimming club. I only remembered the girl from the tennis club because she stand out from all the other girls with her tan, specially in the ending with the cat girl suit.
Those were the two story lines that were the weakest part of the series for me also. Unfortunately, this kind of stuff happens inevitably to any ensemble show. It's why I can't watch series like Heroes or Lost or any thing of that sort and stuff like modern teen drama. There are too many characters and too many stories I don't care about. But for this one, I'll stick with it because the other stories are that much interesting.

This is an interesting discussion. What the story brought to mind for me was something along the lines of a grown-up version of Kyo No Go No Ni - with the romance and ecchi turned up to a middle school/HS level.
I love Kyo no Go no Ni. But that had a central character around which the episodes revolved, and that's Sato. Here, we have stories that will go off from one pair to the next, and some pairs are more interesting than others. Actually, some pairs are just plain uninteresting.

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-13, 10:57

I agree about the central character in KNGNN, but this was just a one-episode comparison in terms of feel. All the more reason why something like HL may be a tough sell to the public.

golthin

2009-04-13, 13:07

I love Kyo no Go no Ni. But that had a central character around which the episodes revolved, and that's Sato. Here, we have stories that will go off from one pair to the next, and some pairs are more interesting than others. Actually, some pairs are just plain uninteresting.

That is why the Tennis club stories were boring, because the couple was boring. the swiming club chapters were just boring.

SkoolRumble4Ya

2009-04-13, 13:22

:heh: First episode pretty funny so why was people saying this manga is so bad?

kenjiharima

2009-04-13, 13:34

Mizore KICK!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Ryomakhunoto/HENTAI/hatsukoi-limited-panties.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Ryomakhunoto/rosariovampire/mizorekickpantsu.jpg

Copycatken

2009-04-13, 15:49

:heh: First episode pretty funny so why was people saying this manga is so bad?

That's because the manga lacks focus and presents so many different relationships that aren't very deeply developed. Also, as was mentioned, some relationship in the manga aren't that interesting compared to others. The cast of characters is so large that it's hard to identify with them.

serenade_beta

2009-04-13, 16:22

:heh: First episode pretty funny so why was people saying this manga is so bad?

Well, first, your statement. First episode... People who say the manga is bad have probably read a lot more to the story, so perhaps they have already experienced more? Maybe the first episode is good and the rest isn't?... Anyways, the above seems to answer your question, but just wanted to point out that your statement is full of holes.

Epoq

2009-04-13, 17:13

I never heard of this show prior to watching it so I initially thought "Great, another 'one-guy-surrounded-by-a-colorful-cast-of-high-school-girls' anime... -_-; ". To my surprise however this show doesn't follow that format, and the art is quite beautiful.

Considering what some say of the manga however I'll remain cautiously optimistic. Maybe the writers recognized the story arcs from the manga that were uninteresting and will choose to leave them out of the anime..?

Shiroth

2009-04-13, 17:44

I totally agree with this, the drawings are quite faithful to the manga. Can't wait for next week, since the preview showed that the focus will be on Yamamoto <3
Yamamoto is easily the best looking girl in this story --- and just going my the preview, i'm so happy to see that the original Mizuki Kawashita designs, again has been carried over.

Well, first, your statement. First episode... People who say the manga is bad have probably read a lot more to the story, so perhaps they have already experienced more? Maybe the first episode is good and the rest isn't?... Anyways, the above seems to answer your question, but just wanted to point out that your statement is full of holes.
See from what i've gathered (not saying it's true), is that people were expected something from the manga and it didn't happen. It being cut short probably has something to do with it.

I personally, adore the manga. Pretty sure i've made that obvious already. :p

There's quite a strong Kimikiss approach in this adaptation. J.C. Staff have a bit to do with this, and i like that. Like to see how far that can take it.

Copycatken

2009-04-13, 18:03

I never heard of this show prior to watching it so I initially thought "Great, another 'one-guy-surrounded-by-a-colorful-cast-of-high-school-girls' anime... -_-; ". To my surprise however this show doesn't follow that format, and the art is quite beautiful.

Funny that you thought this would a standard harem. Although I had read part of the manga already, solely based on the promo and previews before the showed aired, it seemed that the focus was all on the girls and there was (almost) none placed on the guys. In fact, going by the promo video only, I could almost have been led into thinking that Hatsukoi had an all-girl cast only :)

izmosmolnar

2009-04-13, 18:05

I've never heard of that show before, so I didn't have any expectations whatsoever. After 5 minutes it went different than the usual romance-series, which I'm pleased about and it kept me interested and entertained. The episode even managed to make me chuckle once or twice, and that's a huge accomplishment.
If they are going to hold the same quality in storyline, and they aren't gonna keep pushing boring "arks" to the viewers, I might follow that as I've found it enjoyable so far.

-Sho-

2009-04-13, 18:25

HayashiTakara

2009-04-13, 18:26

Just watch the first episode :

So the main character is Ayumi ?
It was hilarious with the guy .
Hmm , overabused with the children who were crying .
And thoses delinquent were idiot .
She begin to feel somethings towards Zaitsu ? or Beast ?

No, There is no main character, all the girls in the group are the main heroines.

Anyway, The story I'm looking forward to the most is Kei-chan's story. The guy she falls for is the best XD

khryoleoz

2009-04-13, 18:26

One thing that is a very small let down is the quality of the character designs. Mizuki Kawashita illustrates some of the cutest chicks, and this anime, while somewhat faithful, lacks that, that, thing you know?

Anyway, The story I'm looking forward to the most is Kei-chan's story. The guy she falls for is the best XD
Yup. This is probably my favorite couple. Like I said, ugly pervy guys need some lovin' too. They might as well get it from hotties.

DragoonKain3

2009-04-13, 19:24

Personally, I like Kei the best out of all the girls, especially when she displays signs of my absolute moe property. Being voiced by none other than Shizuka Itou just seals the deal for me.

Of course, me being me, I have a certain distaste towards that black hair girl whose name I'm trying not to remember... well, at least it seems we're getting over her 'arc' next episode, thankfully.

Copycatken

2009-04-13, 19:48

One thing that is a very small let down is the quality of the character designs. Mizuki Kawashita illustrates some of the cutest chicks, and this anime, while somewhat faithful, lacks that, that, thing you know?

I feel that how the characters are illustrated in Hatsukoi is much more faithful to the manga than what was done for the anime adaption of Ichigo 100%. So for me, I have no problems with the anime's character designs. Well, no problems yet, since we've only seen a single episode.

TCman

2009-04-13, 19:55

The first episode is pretty good and funny. I have read the manga and I think it's quite well adapted from the manga. I like this manga (and now the anime if the anime is faithfully adapted (it seems so from what I have seen in ep. 1), because it got so many types of girls and couples later in the series.

Noe

2009-04-13, 20:55

It seems like it's following the manga, looking good so far~

Eak

2009-04-13, 21:07

I enjoyed the first episode and will keep on watching it.

Hopefully the quality will be consistently good throughout the series instead of following hard on its face like Ichigo 100% anime.

SuperKnuckles

2009-04-14, 02:44

I don't know why, but the dark-tanned tomboy girl stole my heart. Like all the other tanned short-haired tomboy anime characters that ever existed. :heh:

And I'm glad to see that that show isn't overtly serious and I hope it really doesn't end up too seriously, though most shows like this do have a serious side near the end.

And the fanservice is borderline ridiculous in this show. I love it!

Shiroth

2009-04-14, 05:26

And I'm glad to see that that show isn't overtly serious and I hope it really doesn't end up too seriously, though most shows like this do have a serious side near the end.
The manga did do a good job at balancing the humor and seriousness, as you seen in this first episode (first chapter of the manga). There are times when it goes into serious mode, and if they don't add anything anime original in, then i don't see any problems of it being adapted like the first chapter.

BetoJR

2009-04-14, 05:39

Just watched the first episode. Haven't read the manga (trying to get it now), but I liked the show. Very charming characters, for the most part. The OP and ED were quite nice, as well. Hope this turns out better than Ichigo 100% animated series, for sure. :D

One question: what's the original mangaka doing these days? I know she did a one shot of that Love Suicides story, but nothing more?

KiNA

2009-04-14, 08:05

Waifu coming up next week .

*goess giddy giddy*

:D

qmeister

2009-04-14, 08:31

Waifu coming up next week .

*goess giddy giddy*

:D
Rie Tanaka! WAI~! :eyespin:

maximilianjenus

2009-04-14, 09:41

finally one spring anime that lives up to my expectations.

golthin

2009-04-14, 11:08

I personally, adore the manga. Pretty sure i've made that obvious already. :p

There's quite a strong Kimikiss approach in this adaptation. J.C. Staff have a bit to do with this, and i like that. Like to see how far that can take it.

Actually, after kimikiss didn't do too well, it seems they became wiser at J.C. staff and they picked a property that they could improve on with a little few changes.

Rie Tanaka! WAI~! :eyespin:

she is my favorite of all the girls.

Molenir

2009-04-15, 20:28

Finally found the time to sit down and watch this show. I'm definitely loving it so far, as it seems to be following the manga pretty closely, and I really enjoyed that as well. Definitely looking forward to more of this fun show.

suguru

2009-04-15, 22:56

Does anyone know how long it's expected to run for? The Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsukoi_Limited#Anime) cites this page (http://www.j-hatsukoi.com/onair.html) in saying it'll end by the end of June...but I'm hoping that's wrong and it'll run 24 eps, given how big the cast is.

I liked the first episode, anything that has a Kimikiss-like vibe to it is gold in my book at least.

Midonin

2009-04-15, 22:58

Sadly, going by the DVD solicitations, there's only going to be 12 episodes, since the final DVD mentions having a "creditless outro for last episode" in its extras. I wish there would've been more as well, but it looks like things will be the way they are.

Nosauz

2009-04-16, 00:16

well without extended content, this is going just feel like a disjunted group of love stories that end up being really cliche. I'm bitter that the manga ended early but it was justifiable because for a shounen audience the constant changing of characters just made for a confusing tale, but it just makes me sad that they could have rectified so many errors in the manga but again fail to do so with such a short budget. oh well, I don't think I'll watch anything without the enomoto brothers. And when you really think about it its just a complex love polygon, that really doesn't have the appeal that typical k/j dramas have.

golthin

2009-04-16, 01:05

Cirrostratucat

2009-04-16, 02:16

golthin

2009-04-16, 05:41

Love the manga and hopefully this anime will turn out better. So far i really enjoyed the first episode, i'm really looking forward to Koyoi and Kei's story arc. Though im not sure how far this anime will go on, especially since its only for 12 episodes?

they used ONE chapter for the first episode, ONE CHAPTER. There are 32 chapters, that is a lot of material they have to cut. If they spend one episode per girl and skip all the chapters that go from the pespective of the guys, they still will be short. I believe chapter 3 is from the perspective of a guy. Actually chapter 2 introduces our godess Rie, but in the manga it was done from the boys' perspective.

Shiroth

2009-04-16, 05:45

they used ONE chapter for the first episode, ONE CHAPTER. There are 32 chapters, that is a lot of material they have to cut. If they spend one episode per girl and skip all the chapters that go from the pespective of the guys, they still will be short. I believe chapter 3 is from the perspective of a guy. Actually chapter 2 introduces our godess Rie, but in the manga it was done from the boys' perspective.
A few girls stories that take up around 2 chapters could easily fit into one episodes --- and if we look at it that way, take away the Boy's perspective issue from the manga and i believe they can do this.

Of course i'm not happy with it. I'd rather see 24/26 episodes. That way we'd have enough room for everything that we want to see.

SaintessHeart

2009-04-16, 05:48

Come to think of it, I was fooled into thinking that it is PORN. :frustrated:

But it is a pretty okay show for the first episode. I think I will wait for further ones before passing judgement.

golthin

2009-04-16, 05:55

A few girls stories that take up around 2 chapters could easily fit into one episodes --- and if we look at it that way, take away the Boy's perspective issue from the manga and i believe they can do this.

Of course i'm not happy with it. I'd rather see 24/26 episodes. That way we'd have enough room for everything that we want to see.

I think "the Kappa and the princess" plotline uses a lot of chapters. they could solve that plotline in one or 2 episodes without going into so much detail.

serenade_beta

2009-04-18, 13:31

Fuu... I need to learn how to make boring jokes like that too...

16, huh... Haha, how time flies by... 16... HA-HA-HA... orz...

Anyways, yep, it really is an entertaining anime. Can't really say the plot is anything great, but as light comedy, it really does a great job. (^^)b
And for some reason, it has less fanservice than Queen's Blade, but it feels a lot more erotic than Queen's Blade. :heh: Poor Queen's Blade...

Misao... You really are going to be arrested one day... Rather, I wonder why he hasn't been reported yet.

No real comments on the new characters... The two males were typical plain male friend characters (especially the one that got the most appearance, yeah, yeah, girls, girls... *yawn*), and nothing really much to say about... Err, Misaki, was it? Nice Body though.

Preview: Do... Don't tell me...!

PS: Haha, love is limited to 2D!

Who

2009-04-18, 13:36

What happened to the manga that caused it to fail? Was the story bad? From the way they do it, it looks very interesting.

For me personally, it was the way it ended. Too rushed, in my opinion and left many characters with unsolved/half-assed endings.

KiNA

2009-04-18, 13:38

That was because it was cut short.. so the end was rushed.

Why its cut short, simple.. reader dont like some arcs, and TBH, some middle arc was very weak. And a mess. Thus, ended abruptly.

Kenn

2009-04-18, 13:39

For me personally, it was the way it ended. Too rushed, in my opinion and left many characters with unsolved/half-assed endings.

=l The only reason the ending was like that was because SJ cut it.

xD Hopefully the anime makes a better ending up, and shows SJ that they shouldn't have cut it xD

edit: darn...KiNA beat me to it <<

golthin

2009-04-18, 16:36

For me personally, it was the way it ended. Too rushed, in my opinion and left many characters with unsolved/half-assed endings.

there were only two definite pairings solved by the time the manga ended. Everything was left unresolved.

the pairings that were solved didn't involved any of the love triangles...

khryoleoz

2009-04-18, 18:05

Wow. That was a very good adaptation of the 2nd chapter. Misaki coming into Mamoru's room from outside and traversing through Kusuda was really hot. And Kusuda gives the show the kind of comic relief that's perfect for me.

Fandal

2009-04-18, 22:22

Is Yuu being to be demoted to be a simple side character?

golthin

2009-04-18, 23:34

Is Yuu being to be demoted to be a simple side character?

I think all male characters are side characters in the anime. the anime theme is all about the GIRLS' first love while the manga was just about first love in general.

edit:
I watched episode 2 and most of it was ORIGINAL material. the conversation between Misao and Misaki is an anime original.

Who

2009-04-19, 01:13

That was because it was cut short.. so the end was rushed.

Why its cut short, simple.. reader dont like some arcs, and TBH, some middle arc was very weak. And a mess. Thus, ended abruptly.

Yeah, I'm already aware of that, she had to end it cause it was slated to be cut out from WSJ. That I understand, but still, you can't help but wonder what would've happened if she were given the proper time and support.
Oh well. This leaves room for fanfics, so it's not a TOTAL disservice. Now, someone get to it and write something amazing. :heh:

Edit:
Oh, this also addresses everyone else who quoted me. :P

And @ golthin:
That's my personal reason for disliking it. Normally not a serious relationship pairing supporter/shipper but this one was more what the hell. Probably because I actually went through it. :(

Fandal

2009-04-19, 01:19

I was thinking about the other Yuu, but I was also wondering about Mamoru. This episode was suppose to focus on him, but it do so as much :(

Where's the snail and ant race? :(

golthin

2009-04-19, 01:54

I was thinking about the other Yuu, but I was also wondering about Mamoru. This episode was suppose to focus on him, but it do so as much :(

Where's the snail and ant race? :(

i know! they did so much orginal material. It kind made sense because I always wondered what Misao and Misaki talked about and the anime answers that. I should have known that this being a JC staff project and considering what they did with Kimikiss, that there would be a lot of new stuff.

Vexx

2009-04-19, 10:57

And for some reason, it has less fanservice than Queen's Blade, but it feels a lot more erotic than Queen's Blade. :heh: Poor Queen's Blade...
Queen's Blade isn't sexy... it is just annoying. I'll take "erotic" over "clinical" anyday. However, I was hoping that since the manga was complete that this would be a complete rendition of the various short stories -- at 12 episodes highly unlikely. I expect mostly a hyper-condensed version of the segments and a rapid move into the "all characters play" part of the manga. They may also simply choose to focus on one aspect that was more popular with the Japanese fan base...

BetoJR

2009-04-19, 11:05

Queen's Blade isn't sexy... it is just annoying. I'll take "erotic" over "clinical" anyday. However, I was hoping that since the manga was complete that this would be a complete rendition of the various short stories -- at 12 episodes highly unlikely. I expect mostly a hyper-condensed version of the segments and a rapid move into the "all characters play" part of the manga. They may also simply choose to focus on one aspect that was more popular with the Japanese fan base...
And what aspect would that be, if it isn't too much of a spoiler? If it is, could you reply via PM, bub?

Also, I completely agree with you on Queen's Blade - tried to watch at least the first episode, and noticed it clearly wasn't aimed at me. :D

Vexx

2009-04-19, 11:13

No need for PM... I was speculating on how they might adapt this - no idea which "one aspect" they might pick. That was just based on experience with OTHER anime series where the anime writers decided to focus on particular pieces of the source (e.g. Canvas 2 turned into a triangle romance rather than having the lead romance the entire harem).

Astrana

2009-04-19, 11:16

second episode made me laugh so hard...
I like how it is following the manga.
There is no main character in this show.
You can see it as bunch of short stories connected by characters.
I got confused about character relations reading manga, hope idont get lost in anime

Nosauz

2009-04-19, 13:11

anyway it makes me sad that its straight out of the manga, considering it was axed really early on, I was hoping for anime specific stuff because really the enomoto brothers was teh first arc introduced and by far it was the one with the weakest end, and in general most of the stories had a shoehorned ending that didn't really bring closure, and really was like a mad scramble for an end, and looking at its 12 episode count I guess I can't really expect too much from this show

germanturkey

2009-04-20, 01:42

so, i really don't know what to think of this show. ep 1 was absolutely cruel in how the girls treated Misao. then ep 2 was absolutely hilarious. i'll definitely be following up this show. the manga too at some point in time. unrequited love, love polygons, all tied up to a larger overbearing plot!? if they pull this off, i'll be amazed.

physics223

2009-04-20, 03:18

I think JC Staff can redeem itself (at least to me) if they're able to successfully pull this off. This doesn't have 10 novel volumes to compress in 25 episodes; it has 32 manga chapters for 12 episodes. Despite it being axed early, I also like its manga version a lot more than Ichigo 100%. Not everything is explained; life goes on, and it's highly probable that the relationships are ephemeral, but there's also life to learn. I loved it. I'm hoping I could also love the adaptation and there's a high chance of that happening because JC Staff is doing it. :)

TCman

2009-04-20, 03:47

Didn't Misaki Yamamoto "attacked" (unknowingly) Mamoru Zaitsu and Kusuda in her sleep (in the manga; serves as self-defence mechanism when she's asleep, just like Angel Heart's Xiang Ying), while she is obviously awake in the anime (with her eyes opened, i.e. knowingly) when she did that; this scene is clearly longer than the one in the manga. Also In the manga we didn't get to hear and to see what exactly Misao Zaitsu and Misaki were talking about (this scene is alittle to long for my taste).

I am actually surprised that the creators haven't "cut" things yet from the manga since there are just 12 episodes, instead they are just adding changes in the anime.

Overall, a very enjoyable second episode, although I find the first episode funnier to watch.

Well, as for the problem of how the creators squeeze the manga in just 12 episodes. I think they may put the story of one girl in a single episode each. There are nine girls, so that's 9 episodes; 3 episodes left for the "Christmas" chapter, "Valentine's Day" chapter and "run-away" chapter.

golthin

2009-04-20, 04:43

I am actually surprised that the creators haven't "cut" things yet from the manga since there are just 12 episodes, instead they are just adding changes in the anime.

Overall, a very enjoyable second episode, although I find the first episode funnier to watch.

Yeah, I didn't believe they were going to add stuff, but they obviously plan to cut a lot.

Well, as for the problem of how the creators squeeze the manga in just 12 episodes. I think they may put the story of one girl in a single episode each. There are nine girls, so that's 9 episodes; 3 episodes left for.

that makes sense and it seems that is the way they are going to go, but I think they spent too much time in Misaki and that adding that conversation was unnecessary. Still, the lolipop incident shouldn't take too long for everything to move on. things will start to move very FAST from now on as they don't have much time left.

going by the previews, they are skipping chapter 3 and going directly to the next two chapters and covering two girls at the same time. I guess then they will combine chapter 3 with 6 which makes sense. They seem to be combining the chapters that have the same "corners" of the many love triangles together.

the "Christmas" chapter, "Valentine's Day" chapter and "run-away" chapter.

I agree, those chapters have the most chance because they are very meaningful for ALL the relationships, specially for one of the two couples that actually end as full fledged couple.

izmosmolnar

2009-04-20, 06:21

What's Teru Mikami from Death Note doing in that show? I'm hoping he is not gonna "delete" the girls with his notebook :heh: .
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9456/hatsukoilimited02large3.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hatsukoilimited02large3.jpg)
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/899/deathnote3202lg.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathnote3202lg.jpg)
I actually liked that episode too. I kinda prefer Misaki's character comparing it to Ayumi's, as I think the former behaves a tiny bit more mature (except when she beats the guys). I wonder who she is going to go out with in the end.
Poor Misao though, even the birds are scared of him, and he is still not much closer to Ayumi :/ .

Shiroth

2009-04-20, 06:27

They delivered with Yamamoto goodness~

It's strange how they are adding changes to a few scenes here, even though there's only 10 episodes left. The chapter after this was focused on Yamamoto, though it looks like they're going to skip that and go do Kei's story. Looks like they'll just do a girl at a time, though i do wonder if they'll animated the last few chapters that ended a few stories at once in the manga. Guess we shall find out next episode.

golthin

2009-04-20, 06:38

I actually liked that episode too. I kinda prefer Misaki's character comparing it to Ayumi's, as I think the former behaves a tiny bit more mature (except when she beats the guys). I wonder who she is going to go out with in the end.
Poor Misao though, even the birds are scared of him, and he is still not much closer to Ayumi :/ .

well, by the way the anime is going, I think they will just leave as it was left in the manga but with a better storytelling of everything. besides the two definete couples....

Ayumi gave Misao her answer, she declined him and gave him hope, because she was not ready to let go of her first love yet. Misao then tells Mamoru that it seems they are rivals. Everyone kept trying for their first love. the only couples that hooked were the one that were not in some kind of love triangle or couldn't let go of their first love yet.

izmosmolnar

2009-04-20, 07:58

Ayumi gave Misao her answer, she declined him and gave him hope, because she was not ready to let go of her first love yet. Misao then tells Mamoru that it seems they are rivals. Everyone kept trying for their first love. the only couples that hooked were the one that were not in some kind of love triangle or couldn't let go of their first love yet.

Well I'm somewhat disappointed to hear she rejected him ultimately. There's no justice for Big guys in the animeworld. I'm kinda hoping they gonna animate it differently, or get him a different girl here.

golthin

2009-04-20, 08:30

Well I'm somewhat disappointed to hear she rejected him ultimately. There's no justice for Big guys in the animeworld. I'm kinda hoping they gonna animate it differently, or get him a different girl here.

well, the manga was not about people hooking up, but about first loves, even though there were a couple of hook ups. Most people in this manga have a one sided love. The first 2 episodes have shown who the first love for Miyuki, Misao and Mamoro are. It is very rare when someone ends with their first love. Now, the anime could deviate from the manga and things could be different.
You will be surprised, there is justice for ugly guys in the anime world and this show will demostrate it.

Copycatken

2009-04-20, 13:33

All I can say after watching this episode is "Saki-neeeeeeeeee" :love:

Episode 2 was totally entertaining to watch. I like the fact that they did not put the focus entirely onto Misaki's story and also continued the Zaitsu/Ayumi part for a bit. This puts to rest my fears of having disjointed episodes where there is no continuity between them. Also, from this episode, it looks like some attention will also be given to the boys side of the relationships. We saw a bit of the motivation behind why the Zaitsu brothers have fallen for Ayumi and Misaki.

I do hope we get to see much more Misaki in future episodes though. One episode just isn't enough :)

Shiroth

2009-04-20, 13:49

I hope they at least animated Sakuya's story (the artist one). Easily my favorite from the manga. A good love story.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-20, 15:03

I love Misaki's arc too, can't wait for the rest to be animated, AND YES!!! The first chapter to Kei-chan's arc!!!!

Ashlotte

2009-04-20, 15:12

Well this episode made a great pair with the previous one. The first one seemed more interested in the emotions and feelings of love where this one aimed squarely at the physical...And they managed to pull it off without feeling like 100% pointless fanservice rather making it fit seamlessly into the overall theme of the show so far. :p

You can also see that from how the perspective is drawn...In the first episode it was mostly told from a female POV whereas this time we get it mostly from the male...Probably not entirely fair since the world has its fair share of both romantic minded males (Misao being a suprisingly good example) and just plain horny gals. But I can forgive the show for using this particular stereotype of which sex wants what from a relationship at that age. :heh:

I do hope they keep the "old" stories playing in the background while they throw out the new ones like they did this time...It gives a nice sense of transition and kinda slowly builds it own little nuanced world that would feel alot more shallow I think if they had just completely ignored it like a truely episodic series would.

Shame to hear the manga series ended so abruptly though...Probably check it out after alls said and done with the anime either way.

Copycatken

2009-04-20, 15:23

What's Teru Mikami from Death Note doing in that show? I'm hoping he is not gonna "delete" the girls with his notebook :heh: .

Sogabe also kinda looks like the CEO of the MBI corporation in Sekirei (if he had white hair anyways).

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6018/27086.th.jpg (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27086.jpg)

plzd0ntkeelme

2009-04-20, 18:46

Wow, the ecchi level just jump quite a bit in Ep2 with Misaki which is a good thing. The only thing that bothers me is how a girl like Ayumi possess a superhuman strength. Oh well, the way of anime i guess. Overall a great ep.

Nosauz

2009-04-20, 18:53

Well I'm somewhat disappointed to hear she rejected him ultimately. There's no justice for Big guys in the animeworld. I'm kinda hoping they gonna animate it differently, or get him a different girl here.

really i felt her denying him was utterly shallow, her relationship with the dude who saved her was so bland and really uninspiring, that it really tainted the "end' for me. What i would have considered an adequate story was they get to know each other, and because of differences split or because of real interest get together, but this just felt like forced heavy handed attempt to bring closure to the brothers arc.

@ shiroth, yes sakuya's arc was good, but man getting cut in so early left sooo many other arcs just hanging out there to dry. pretty dissapointing really

Wandering_Youth

2009-04-20, 19:12

Wow. I mean, wow!

Episode 2 totally made me laugh my pants off. Mamoru 's perverted buddy is just a bunch of laughs. He's totally like the devil always trying to push Mamoru into doing naughty things.

Last but not least, Misaka is one cool beauty. Cool, bright, athletic and the body to match, I smiled hard seeing that one scene as she was coming through the window and landing on the perv. It was funny.

dojikyo

2009-04-20, 21:22

The show and its approach remind of Boys Be. Boys Be was a series of short stories. In Boys Be, the anime, they changed into a series of short love stories focusing on the different members of a small cast. So far, so good.

Misaki is pretty hot. Yeah, it has nothing do with the previous paragraph. But I need to to get that out.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-20, 21:57

Wait till you see Misaki's story, You'll be pleasantly surprise :3

frubam

2009-04-20, 22:11

Why does Soyabe look and sound TOO cool :twitch:? He's supposed to look and act like a nerd.

I hated Yamamoto in the manga. I'm most likely am still going to hate her actions in the coming eps, but how she was shown here with her friendship with Misao(and to a smaller extent, Mamoru) was really good, and showed a part of her compassionate, understanding side that(to my recollection) was never shown in the manga. For me, that really balances her character outside that "cool" exterior she normally shows(which is why I hate her).

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-20, 22:19

I do hope that the anime doesn't abandon the chapters telling the stories from the guys' prespective, because there are very few series that talk about school romance (not sex) from the boys' POV.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-20, 22:28

Nosauz

2009-04-20, 22:31

I like her, I thought her arc is good. Each girl has a moral to their story, and I like Misaki's and how she tries to cope with it.

really? I felt ayumi's story was complete garbage especially the tacked on ending that really felt like a cop out,

HayashiTakara

2009-04-20, 22:34

really? I felt ayumi's story was complete garbage especially the tacked on ending that really felt like a cop out,

Who said anything about Ayumi? she's the worse of the bunch, I was talking about Misaki.

germanturkey

2009-04-20, 22:35

Nosauz

2009-04-20, 22:35

kk, im just saying god, ayumi's story is SOOOOOOOOO DAMN SHALLOW.... I hate her soooo much, jsut because she is a fickle bitch.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-20, 22:38

I'm getting a vibe that Misaki like the older brother or something, but then again its seems like a really bad vibe. and i'm normally good at calling this stuff. i've lost my mojo.

but yeah, i really enjoy how this show deals with romance and the feelings that go along with it. its hitting a little close to home, which is why its interesting. high school was only 2 years ago, but it seems like ancient history to me..

I'll just save you the trouble and tell you that...

you're wrong :heh:

kk, im just saying god, ayumi's story is SOOOOOOOOO DAMN SHALLOW.... I hate her soooo much, jsut because she is a fickle bitch.

Yeah, I agree... the other one that's boring as dirt is the short haired one with the hair clip. Her arc is such a snoozer.

Nosauz

2009-04-20, 22:41

germanturkey

2009-04-20, 23:03

@HayashiTakara, i figured as much. haha

rose-wisteria

2009-04-20, 23:41

Blah. I took 70 screen shots on this episode. It tells you how much I love Misaki because I do. She's one of my favorite manga females (granted, I don't read that many manga but still...). They are skipping a chapter I think, which is odd. It's okay though because I enjoy the next arc very much.

How can someone dislike Misaki? T_T Oh well. Everyone to their own opinions I suppose. ;)

Vito

2009-04-21, 00:47

I wonder if anyone stiched the panning shot of Misaki

coming through the window?

izmosmolnar

2009-04-21, 01:14

germanturkey

2009-04-21, 02:33

so by "art girl" are you referring to the manga artist arc? because that one seems incredibly sweet to me.

and holy crap, the manga is a god send. i'm a diehard romance junkie, and pretty much every scenario in the first volume has been something i've thought of and wished there was an anime of.

golthin

2009-04-21, 03:44

the fact that they probaably cutting out the guys perspective makes this a little bit sad, I love swimming guy x swimming girl, its been awhile since i've read the manga but i'll read it again just so that I don't sound like an asshat when talking about this series. But just shows you how memorable these characters are.

Zatsuo is the one of the coolest male leads i've seen

That show you how different people taste are. I thought the Swimming club arc was the most boring of all the arcs. I even couldn't remember the two girls from that club and had people to remind me who they were. I first thought they were Anime originals.

Shiroth

2009-04-21, 03:47

They are skipping a chapter I think, which is odd. It's okay though because I enjoy the next arc very much.
Yeah they're skipping Yamamoto's chapter which should come next up. Think as it them not skipping it, though trying to fit the story into 10 more episodes. That's all they have left.

so by "art girl" are you referring to the manga artist arc? because that one seems incredibly sweet to me.
No, i'm talking about Konohana Sakuya, the girl from the art club.

golthin

2009-04-21, 04:17

Yeah they're skipping Yamamoto's chapter which should come next up. Think as it them not skipping it, though trying to fit the story into 10 more episodes. That's all they have left.

No, i'm talking about Konohana Sakuya, the girl from the art club.

next episode they are combining chapter 4 and 5 as they happen about the same time in the same school. They most likely will then combine chapter 3 and 6 as it happens in the same school. too. They are following the manga but they are doing it in a more orderly way. That was another problem with the manga, it kept jumping all over the place. by the way, chapter 3 is not Yamamoto chapter but it is a chapter for the older sister of the two blondies. The shorter and older one.

sayuka is ....

the girl that was modeling for the senior, and she encouraged him to follow his dream and he left for africa to join the peace corps. the guy with glasses is in love with her.

izmosmolnar

2009-04-21, 07:43

Something like this ==V
No, you guys are mistaken if my post leads you to believe I dislike her. As I said in a previous post, I'm quite liking her character (more than Ayumi so far), however I can't decide if Saki is either living in a contradictional lifestyle where she doesn't even know what she really wants and keeps telling herself the opposite to reassure some part in herself, or she just enjoys d*ckteasing too much.
edit: and no, I haven't read the manga to know more than the anime shows me

Copycatken

2009-04-21, 09:53

What I still don't understand is that, if Saki is truly not interested in love and relationships etc, than why is she going over in a micro hotpants, and a tiny top with no bra on (I don't even know surely whether she has a thong on her at the very least).
She is 16 already, she should already know the meaning of "male-stare" Maromu and his friend giving him.
She noticed them peeking her behind the pole, while she was walking home. So as a true good caring friend she is, even though she is not interested in getting a boyfriend, goes over to their home dressed like a sl*t (pardon me, but you have to be pretty daring/ignorant/oblivious to go in a male teenager's room like that and ignore the effect she causes on them). Is she truly not interested in Misao or his bro? Or maybe she is not even fully aware of, how she (instinctively) tries to charm him/them?

I understand she probably enjoys being in the center of attention like real world females with the same age, but if she goes like that out and seemingly enjoys teasing the guys, I can hardly believe her word, how she doesn't give a rat's ass about relationships.

Well, she treats Misao and Mamoru as childhood friends, and almost as brothers in her case. In this circumstance, she doesn't need to worry about her appearance that much if she's just going to their house for a visit. I mean, no one would be formally dressed up if all they wanted to do was go speak with their brother/sister right? Although I do agree that her "casual" clothes are kinda going to the extreme, that's probably just to give more fanservice to the viewers.

On an unrelated note:When Misao's imagining himself treating Ayumi as a small animal and petting her, why isn't she wearing any clothes? Impure thoughts! :p
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7844/zaitsu.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zaitsu.jpg)

golthin

2009-04-21, 11:00

Apparently you missed the whole "You don't need a reason to be in love with someone" moral of her story, did you? If you forgot about it, episode 2 pretty much hit you with it like a shovel to the face.

yeah, that is the moral all around. If you can't bring yourself to believe that, then one of the final couples will really piss you off, because

they are a complete odd couple, considering that the guy is the complete opposite of her "type". You people will laugh about what made Saki fall in love. You people might think that is far fetched, but I had a roomate fall for me because I did her laundry. The heart of a women is a fickle thing.

frubam

2009-04-21, 11:37

You people might think that is far fetched, but I had a roomate fall for me because I did her laundry. The heart of a women is a fickle thing.
Man, what a pervert :heh:...

golthin

2009-04-21, 11:56

Man, what a pervert :heh:...

me or her? I just had to wash my gym cloths and noticed that her laundry basket was full and she worked nights. thought it was a waste to just use detergant for so little laundry so i just put the stuff in. all her stuff was white so didn't have to sort. She was touched because i did it on my without being asked :heh:

Somnus

2009-04-21, 15:48

After watching those first 2 eps, I have to say this show looks to have a lot of promise for something I'd really like.

I was sketchy about the concept and its many characters at first, not to mention that I thought Misao was...eh...odd. After that 2nd ep however my fears were cleared and my enjoyment went quite a bit higher. There were some good laughs throughout both eps (especially ep 2) and to be honest one of my fav. chars so far is Ayumi's bro. I thought he was freaking awesome in the way he was presented. I definitely hope he gets more screentime (Does anyone know? Don't spoil much please).

By the way, I have to add this. Misaki. Is. Amazing. Boy was I ever wrong thinking she was going to be the cliche cold hearted...you know, of this show.

Shiroth

2009-04-21, 16:40

By the way, I have to add this. Misaki. Is. Amazing. Boy was I ever wrong thinking she was going to be the cliche cold hearted...you know, of this show.
Yeah she's a great character. If the show had more episodes, then i'm sure we'd see her chapter animated. I hear we'll be seeing DVD extras, so hopefully on there we shall.

KiNA

2009-04-21, 16:43

She is awesome. Her VA is awesome. I love her. And I love her VA.

I'm a happy fanboy :D

germanturkey

2009-04-21, 21:27

I don't hear Lacus at all. But yeah, I adore her character and Rie Tanaka.

in other news, i see a little of myself in Sogabe..

DragoonKain3

2009-04-21, 22:38

Well, showing Misaki and Misao's conversation really redeemed her in my eyes. Well, at least I can at least start shipping MisakiXMisao now... lol

What I'm really wondering though is if the source got cut early because it wasn't popular... then what the heck prompted this to be animated over everything else out there?

golthin

2009-04-21, 23:07

What I'm really wondering though is if the source got cut early because it wasn't popular... then what the heck prompted this to be animated over everything else out there?

Because the concept of the manga was good, the mangaka execution was bad. the anime seems to be improving on it so far by the first 2 episodes. Jc staff has so far followed the first two chapters of the manga in order and added the conversation between Misao and Misaki which was not in the manga. they are skipping a chapter for episode 3 and it seems they will combine chapters 4 and 5 looking at the previews.

ThoHell

2009-04-21, 23:16

Man when I first read this manga I couldn't pass chapter 1, but for some reason had the urge to read it today, so I did. It wasn't as bad as I thought, but it makes me wonder how they plan on concluded or doing the series. Well, anyways, after reading and with the help of ep 2 some, Misaki has come to be my favorite character.....

HayashiTakara

2009-04-21, 23:31

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-22, 00:33

Well, this continues to be enjoyable and rather better than I expected. Yes, there's plenty of service but it takes a sympathetic rather than mocking view towards all the characters, great and small. Mamoru seems to be shaping up as a classic good boy with all the commensurate problems that implies, and Saki-nee is quite the impressive specimen. I also like the way each week's crush seems to segue indirectly into the next one, and how no one seems to like the person that likes them (which is pretty much how I remember HS).

germanturkey

2009-04-22, 02:04

oh my gosh. Chikura's arc. soooooo beautiful!!! i almost teared up reading it. i cannot wait for it to be animated. if they cut this out... i will burn things down.

i also hope they do the omake chapters as an episode... absolutely hilarious.

golthin

2009-04-22, 02:15

oh my gosh. Chikura's arc. soooooo beautiful!!! i almost teared up reading it. i cannot wait for it to be animated. if they cut this out... i will burn things down.

they seem to be dedicating one episode per girl so far. like someone said, 9 girls =9 episodes and 3 left for some chapters that included everyone and are very important. Well, next episode looks like they will introduce 2 girls at the same time.

Vito

2009-04-22, 03:10

Just read the Misaki's part in the manga... bleh, imho they kinda ruined the character :| But I guess it fits in the overall theme.

Shiroth

2009-04-22, 05:20

they seem to be dedicating one episode per girl so far. like someone said, 9 girls =9 episodes and 3 left for some chapters that included everyone and are very important. Well, next episode looks like they will introduce 2 girls at the same time.
You know, they could do what the manga did and end a few stories at once. That's the kind of ending i'm expected anyway.

DragoonKain3

2009-04-22, 08:18

A ship that has sunk before it began :heh:

Don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch (need I mention Rental Magica to name but one example?). Especially this time its JC staff, who has been known (notoriously?) to have change stuff from the source material. They might very well do it here, especially since they added the Misao and Misaki conversation. :heh:

Of course, even if they do stick with the source, considering the two are pursuing different people, there really isn't a rejection between the two of them (unlike the 'other one'). As such, with no direct contradiction from canon, the ship isn't really sunk, as it lives on in fanon. ^_^

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-22, 10:02

maximilianjenus

2009-04-22, 10:40

Yes.

There is also a posibility of the anima just cutting complete arcs from the manga and just animate the ones related to the currently shown characters... I hope they get soako' arc as dvd extras since that's the sexiest of them all.

golthin

2009-04-22, 10:48

I know there's talk that some of the chapters are from the boy's prespective - and those might be skipped.
But if anything, ep 2 seemed to be more from Mamoru's POV than anything else. Is that the kind of thing you manga readers were talking about?

In the manga this episode was from Mamoru's point of view, but in the anime it was more from Misaki's point of view thus why they added the conversation between Misaki and Misao which was not in the manga. In other words, If this episode was from Mamoru point of view, it would have been more about his crush for Misaki. The episode was more about Misaki not caring about love with a little info about Mamoru having a crush for her. It was pretty much the same way as episode 1 where it was all about ayumi but also they let us know a little bit about Misao and Ayumi's brother. The conversation between Misao and Misaki is what tilt the balance in making the episode more about Misaki than about Mamoru.

Yes.

There is also a posibility of the anima just cutting complete arcs from the manga and just animate the ones related to the currently shown characters... I hope they get soako' arc as dvd extras since that's the sexiest of them all.

there were a lot of chapters dealing with the swimming club. They really only need one for the girl's introduction and they can cut the rest. also the arc about the Art student and her senior took like 3 chapters and they can solve that in one episode.

Midonin

2009-04-22, 11:54

Both the OP and ED are out in full, and I am pleased with both. Next up, the character singles. There's going to be four of these, two characters apiece.

First one is Kei and Rika, if anyone's curious.

Somnus

2009-04-22, 12:51

Alright, so I went and bit the bullet and read the manga. I enjoyed it a lot, and I'm both hopeful and sad wondering which arcs they'll be able to animate since I liked some a lot, but others not so much. I definitely still am a huge fan of Misaki, but became quite the fan of some of the other couples as well.

Also, I know it was cut short and it may not have been able to portray everything it wanted to...but I really liked that last volume. May have been a bit forced, but it still gave an end result that left me satisfied. All in all, I look forward to the rest of this show.

HayashiTakara

2009-04-22, 12:52

Don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch (need I mention Rental Magica to name but one example?). Especially this time its JC staff, who has been known (notoriously?) to have change stuff from the source material. They might very well do it here, especially since they added the Misao and Misaki conversation. :heh:

Of course, even if they do stick with the source, considering the two are pursuing different people, there really isn't a rejection between the two of them (unlike the 'other one'). As such, with no direct contradiction from canon, the ship isn't really sunk, as it lives on in fanon. ^_^

I can you can truly make a pairing out of anything huh? :eyespin:

rg4619

2009-04-22, 19:58

What I'm really wondering though is if the source got cut early because it wasn't popular... then what the heck prompted this to be animated over everything else out there?

Good question. My thinking is that it's merely a last (posthumous?) attempt to market the characters, despite the unpopularity of the manga. Notice that while the story has been harshly criticized, people speak favourably of Mizuki Kawashita's art, as well as some character personality concepts. In that sense, Hatsukoi Limited is acceptable enough as a low-budget shot at promoting character merchandise.

At any rate, the anime studio isn't on the production committee, so they don't stand to gain or lose any money from accepting this project.

typhonsentra

2009-04-22, 22:10

You know, I'm liking it so far but God those middle school girls are bitchy, it makes it hard to relate to them.

Fran~

2009-04-22, 23:07

You know, I'm liking it so far but God those middle school girls are bitchy, it makes it hard to relate to them.
Welcome to the world of middle school girls :heh:...

But, Kusuda is there to teach'em some lessons... just wait and see :D

germanturkey

2009-04-23, 00:42

@rg, definitely. the artwork in the manga is fantastic, and it made the transition over to the anime fine. the character designs and personalities are unique and great as well. the mangaka did a great job at capture what a middle school girls and guys are like. of course there's some exaggeration because its an anime, but for the most part, i can name people i went to school with that fit the exact roles i see in the show.

Guardian Enzo

2009-04-23, 00:48

I can already sort of see why the manga struggled to hold it's audience. It's a natural inclination to treat this series as a conventional school romance. After only two eps I'm quite interested in seeing - and instinctively expecting to see - how some of the relationships turn out, especially Misaki x Mamoru. Yet due to the episodic nature of the manga the story will jump around and those relationships will be tangential at best until revisited much later, if at all. It's an interesting but counter-intuitive concept.