Claymore Chapter 83

[Skyfall]

Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 83.

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[tenken627]

Posting spoilers from the Chapter 82 thread again:

Yep, it's that time.

SPOILER TIME!!! Maybe real, maybe fake:

From 2CH

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バレ

古城の中を歩く長髪の男の人影
その人影に突如複数の妖魔が襲いかかるが、男は全ての妖魔をなんなく惨殺する
「この妖魔たちの妖気の有無で侵入者を探知しているわけか」
長髪の男、イースレイの呟きに答えるように暗闇からリフルが現れる
「思ったより早かったわね」
「色々と事情があってね……」
イースレイが暗い微笑を浮かべながらリフルの背後を見据える
「どうやら、とんでもないものを拾ったようだな」
「ええ、何もかもあなたのおかげよ……　礼を言うわ」
「フッ、前置きはこれくらいにして、頂くとするよ。　プリシラへの脅威を……！！」
いうやいなや、イースレイが妖力を開放させ、覚醒体と成る
「全くせっかちな奴ね、でもあの子はまだ目覚めるまで時間がかかるし、
　目覚めの時には私は傍についていなければいけないの……」
「ほう」
イースレイが怪訝そうな顔をする
「それなら、俺の相手は出来ぬはず……何故ここに姿を現した？」
「決まってるじゃない……」
溜息をついたのち、冷徹な表情でイースレイを見据えながら呟いた
「罠よ」
その瞬間、イースレイの足もとの床が轟音を響かせながら崩れ始めた
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「！！」
さしものイースレイも咄嗟のことで罠から逃れることができず、
まっさかさまに転落するも、なんとか着地に成功する
「……狭いな、ここは？」
「ダフ、相手をしてあげなさい」
頭上から響くリフルの抑揚のない声を聞きながら、イースレイの注意は目の前の巨人に向けられて いた
「久しいな、ダフよ」
「がへっ」
狭い地下室の中に、巨大な覚醒者２体がギチギチに詰まっている光景を見ながらリフルが可笑しそ うに笑う
「じゃ、あたしはあの子たちの様子を見てくるから……頑張ってねダフ」
崩落した天井……先ほどまでは床だった場所からリフルが可愛らしい顔をひょこりと覗かせている
「わかった……」
リフルの顔がその場から消えるのを見届けていたダフの顎に強烈な一撃が炸裂する
「があぁぁっ！！」
「流石に硬いな……」
ドリル状に変形した自身の右腕とダフの頑丈そうな顎を見比べながらイースレイが呟いた
「ひ、ひきょうだぞ！」
「悪いが急いでいるんでな、手加減する気も無ければ紳士的に戦うつもりもない
　手早く済ませる……」
無さけ容赦のないその言葉を裏付けるようにイースレイの両腕が殺意を形にするかのごとく、凶悪な形状に変形 してゆく
「このせまいばしょなら、かてるって……リフルがいってたぞ」
ダフも負けじと全身に力を込め、更に筋肉を盛り上げる
「純粋な力比べか……やっぱり俺にはこういうのが性に合っているのかもしれんな」
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「すごいわ！　予想以上よ！！」
リフルは子供の姿を最大限活用した子供のような無邪気な笑顔で目の前の肉塊を褒め称えていた
「グ……ッグガガガガ！！」
リフルの策により、半強制的に覚醒させられていたルネは四肢の再生さえ許されず
身体を損傷したままでの無理な妖力操作によって身も心も限界に達しようとしてた
「御苦労さまルネ、この子完全に目覚めたみたいだからもう妖力操作を解いていいわよ」
リフルがルネの方を見ずに指示を下す
「ガッガガガッ……」
「でもこの子やっぱり駄目だったわね、あの女ほどじゃないけど、このあたしより強くなっちゃっ てるわ」
リフルが頭の中でルシエラとラファエラの抹殺を決定した同時にルネから異変を感じ取った
「ググ……ガアアア！！」
「あれ、どうしたの？　もういいってば……」
次の瞬間、融合体から無数の触手が飛び出し、リフルとルネを襲う
リフルは間一髪避けることができたが、怪我をしていた上、拘束されていたルネは無防備なまま無数の触手に貫 かれ、絶命した
「なによ……どうなってるのよ！」
戦慄にわななきながらリフルが見たものは、ルネの死骸を取り込み膨張する憎悪の塊であった

終わり


Google Choppy Translation:

Names: ISUREI = ISLEY, RIFURU = RIFUL, RUSHIERA = LUCIELA


123: Due to the authors名無し: 2008/08/31 (Sun) 07:50:03 ID: Soi3dlsy0
Bale

Angling walk in a figure of a man with long hair
Suddenly a figure that is more妖魔whale on the man was as sweet as a nut to kill without mercy all妖魔
"This妖魔who Youki tadayou whether to detect intruders in that way?"
Long-haired man, ISUREI呟きthe answer to appear in the darkness RIFURU
"I thought from earlier."
"Various circumstances and it……"
ISUREI is a dark smile to the face behind RIFURU
"Apparently, no one seems like a fairy"
"Yes, it everything you've…… thank you."
"Fluoride, which is about the foreplay, in order to make it. Priscila any threat to……!!"
Rather, as soon as ISUREI妖力is to open, enlightened and body consisting of
"Exactly who impatient, but she is still time to wake up,
I wake up at a barge must have…… "
"Ha"
ISUREI怪訝is likely to face
"Then, my opponent is supposed to be……出来ぬemerged Why here?"
"Well, I do not……"
溜息subsequently made, in anticipation of a hard-nosed look at the ISUREI呟いた
"Trap."
Since that moment, the ISUREI足もとthe floor started rumbling roll of the collapsed


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"!"
SASHIMO the ISUREI咄嗟that also can not escape from the trap,
Ramstam fall to the ground managed to succeed
"…… Narrow, here?"
"Duff, and her opponent."
Echoing from the overhead RIFURU listening to the voice inflection, ISUREI, let's attention for the Giants were
"Long time, Duff."
"Not care"
Narrow basement, in the wake of two giant GICHIGICHI be clogged with sight RIFURU可笑しhave a good laugh
"Well, I was Looking at those kids coming from Duff Good luck……"
…… Collapse of the ceiling had just got off the floor from where he YOKORITO RIFURU is a pretty face, they覗か
"Okay……"
RIFURU disappear from the face of the field見届けDuff was a crushing blow to the jaw explode
"Ohぁぁっ!"
"流石a stiff……"
Drill-like transformation of his or her right arm and chin of Duff's hard to tray with ISUREI呟いた
"Determined, cowardice!"
"Why the hurry is bad, we will also lighten the mood does not intend to fight gentlemanly
Get things done quickly…… "
SAKE no words to support the unrelenting ISUREI arms to form an intention to kill is like a brutal form distorted by Yuku
"This will narrow cane, it KATERU RIFURU…… he is saying."
Duff also負けじover the body and vigor, and muscle to cite
"…… Or pure power than I knew I was with this kind of match that may be true."


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"Great! Than expected!"
RIFURU is to maximize the use of children in child-like innocence before the eyes smile chunk of meat was honored with praise
"…… GGUGAGAGAGA ground!"
RIFURU measure of the force and a half in the wake of the extremities and Rene were not allowed to play even
Physical damage while the operation impossible妖力mind-body and a limit has been reached so TOSHITETA
"Rene御苦労of need, he sounds like a fully awakened from other妖力解いI do it."
Rene is RIFURU who directed a verdict for the trees
"ガッガガガッ……"
"But I knew she did not know it, but she's woman enough, so I'm stronger than I do this."
RIFURU RUSHIERA in the head and Rafaela's decision to eliminate the same time, a Rene abnormalities感じ取ったfrom
"…… GUGU GAAAA!"
"What for? Enough I said……"
The next moment, blend out from countless tentacles, and Rene strike the RIFURU
RIFURU could avoid the narrow, but that one had been injured, had been detained while Rene is vulnerable to countless tentacles held in the絶命
"What I'm doing what is……!"
WANANAKI RIFURU saw the horror that is the corpse of Rene expansion to capture a chunk of hatred

End




Summary of above Spoiler


1st part: Isley appears in an old castle and is attacked by yomas(?), which he kills without mercy. He then meets Riful. They talk, and then the ground under Isley collapses in a trap.

2nd part: Isley sees Duff in the castle basement, (Long time no see Duff). Isley also sees Raciela, the combined forms of Rafaela and Luciela. Riful laughs, says some other stuff. Isley transforms his arms into deadly weapons. Isley and Duff start fighting.

3rd part: Riful is trying to get Rene/Lune to Awaken Raciela. Riful is poised ready to kill Raciela (combined Rafaela/Luciela) as soon as it Awakens just in case. Rene/Lune starts to Awaken herself, because she used up all her energy trying to Awaken Raciela. In that moment, Rene/Lune attacks Riful, who avoided the attack but still was injured. At the same time, Riful's tentacles attack Rene/Lune instantly killing her.

Ending scene: Riful's looking at horror at Rene/Lune's dead body, which is transforming/expanding with something about hatred. End.[/SPOILER]



Above spoiler considered FAKE ^^


Another spoiler...

Credit Wany@Onemanga

sensing something Clare and her group went into a village.
in that village there is already 3 claymore and 2 black coat.
An awaken being thought he was being hunted strike back the claymores and 1 black coat was killed. That black coat who died is yuma's old handler.
clare's group killed that awaken being quickly only to realize something even more strange.
the remaining black coat reveals himself he is rubel and he ask if clare's group want his explanation.

This sounds more true but still not confirm.

The actual spoiler in Japanese for above ^^ and found by ntwalker from tsstorry:

From 2CH -

クレイモア
大剑(CLAYMORE)

妖気を感知して、町をあたることにしたクレア達3人
感知到妖气, 决定到城镇去的古尼雅她们三人

一行が町へ行ってみるとクレイモアが三人、黒服が二人もいた。状況が読めず戸惑っていると
要去镇子方向的一行人, 有大剑三人, 还有黑衣人二人. 搞不清状况而不知该怎么办

自分が狙われていると勘違いした覚醒者が突然暴れだす
以为自己被盯上而误解了的觉醒者突然开始闹腾起来

正体がバレないよう、ユマが関係者を気絶させた後、
真身好像没有透露, 尤玛的联系人被杀死之后,

三人はあっさりと覚醒者を始末する
三人简单地把觉醒者处理了

一息ついて、再び状況を不思議がっている所に
休息了一下, 再次感到状况不可思议的地方

｢教えてやろうか？｣と黒服ルヴルが現れて、11月号につづく
"要我来告诉你吗?" 黑衣人鲁路出现了, 11月号待续

[King Lycan]

hmm i really hope the first spoiler is fake and the second real >_>

[Yoko Takeo]

Second spoiler could be real, but too short to make the whole chapter. Imo, it's just a part of it.

[clarakiss~]

they both sound fake to me, neway didn't miria tell clare and gang to be discreet when traveling to the west and not attract any attention?

if the second one is really true, it wouldn't be too surprising cuz you know clare... she thinks with her big sword than thinking with her real head. lol jk jk!!

[dantyx]

its fake to me ..just few days and the englsh one will by out

[tenken627]

just few days and the englsh one will by out

The Chinese scanlations should be out later today or early tomorrow if it's like usual. So we'll have that shortly.

The Japanese raws should be out in a day or two if it's like usual, with English scanlations about a day or two after the raws come out.

[Stream]

And here is my shoddy translation of the second spoiler, which [EDIT] is CONFIRMED real.

CLAYMORE:

Sensing youki, the three claymores come to town to make a difference.

The party headed to town and saw three claymores and two black coats. The situation is difficult to read.

Having misjudged oneself, an awakened being suddenly emerged.

Without revealing her true colors, Yuma made the black coats faint.

The three easily take care of the awakened being.

Taking a moment to take a breath, the three once again wonder at the state of affairs

"Shall I inform you?" said the black coat Rubel who appeared. To be continued in the November issue.*

*The November issue is released early October and the current issue we have in September is the October issue. Please don't ask if Claymore is going to be delayed one month. It isn't. The next issue comes out next month, same as always.

[Jonova]

this spoiler
クレイモア
大剑(CLAYMORE)

妖気を感知して、町をあたることにしたクレア達3人
感知到妖气, 决定到城镇去的古尼雅她们三人

一行が町へ行ってみるとクレイモアが三人、黒服が二人もいた。状況が読めず戸惑っていると
要去镇子方向的一行人, 有大剑三人, 还有黑衣人二人. 搞不清状况而不知该怎么办

自分が狙われていると勘違いした覚醒者が突然暴れだす
以为自己被盯上而误解了的觉醒者突然开始闹腾起来

正体がバレないよう、ユマが関係者を気絶させた後、
真身好像没有透露, 尤玛的联系人被杀死之后,

三人はあっさりと覚醒者を始末する
三人简单地把觉醒者处理了

一息ついて、再び状況を不思議がっている所に
休息了一下, 再次感到状况不可思议的地方

｢教えてやろうか？｣と黒服ルヴルが現れて、11月号につづく

has been confirmed as real afaik.
Not much happening expect Yuma killed 2 MiB(I think? not too sure about that), and Rubel or whatever his name is made an appearance at the end of the chapter.

[tenken627]

this spoiler
クレイモア
大剑(CLAYMORE)

妖気を感知して、町をあたることにしたクレア達3人
感知到妖气, 决定到城镇去的古尼雅她们三人

一行が町へ行ってみるとクレイモアが三人、黒服が二人もいた。状況が読めず戸惑っていると
要去镇子方向的一行人, 有大剑三人, 还有黑衣人二人. 搞不清状况而不知该怎么办

自分が狙われていると勘違いした覚醒者が突然暴れだす
以为自己被盯上而误解了的觉醒者突然开始闹腾起来

正体がバレないよう、ユマが関係者を気絶させた後、
真身好像没有透露, 尤玛的联系人被杀死之后,

三人はあっさりと覚醒者を始末する
三人简单地把觉醒者处理了

一息ついて、再び状況を不思議がっている所に
休息了一下, 再次感到状况不可思议的地方

｢教えてやろうか？｣と黒服ルヴルが現れて、11月号につづく

has been confirmed as real afaik.
Not much happening expect Yuma killed 2 MiB(I think? not too sure about that), and Rubel or whatever his name is made an appearance at the end of the chapter.

Yeah, I just read this as CONFIRMED SPOILER.

I'm not sure if the dead MiB is Yuma's old handler? Or some other connection the dead MiB has to Yuma? I don't know if Yuma killed the MiB herself though? Yuma Punch?

I am thinking that the MiB was killed by the AB? It's not clear.

[tenken627]

Posting some images from Chapter 83.

There is a lot of action in this chapter.


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6426/3claymoresub0.png



http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9739/newabrk3.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9182/newab2br0.jpg



http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5922/2mibsza5.jpg



http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2189/clarecynthiaqp3.jpg

[Tempest35]

GO YUMA!! :D lol It's always the quieter ones that you have to watch out for....and Miria sent the two most quiet ones (other than Deneve) with Clare....:heh:
Good times, good times.

[Vinak]

I hope part of that spoiler is true. I just want to see some kind of conversation between Rubal, Clare and maybe the new generation Claymores.

[BishounoTeresa]

Posting some images from Chapter 83.

There is a lot of action in this chapter.


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6426/3claymoresub0.png



http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9739/newabrk3.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9182/newab2br0.jpg



http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5922/2mibsza5.jpg


Yay! Scans are out! :smile:

[tenken627]

It seems that Yuma DOES take out the 2 MiBs. Without actual translation, I don't know if they are dead or not. And the Clare, Cynthia, and Yuma trio takes out the 3 Claymores before fighting the AB (Also do not know if they are dead or not. But their injuries do not look serious for Claymores).

So much for being undercover.


For those Yuma Fans:


http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7276/superyumadb2.png


And, interesting. I'm not sure, but is this our first rough map of the Claymore world that Cynthia draws in the dirt?

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8092/mapft7.png

[Stream]

Hmm, is it my imagination or is this some foreshadowing?

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7604/pictj9.pngSomehow I get the feeling that one of these days Clare is going to pick up Teresa's sword and start dualwielding.

Also, would someone care to translate the Chinese scan? I can't translate Chinese scans, just JP raws.

[Vinak]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8092/mapft7.png[/spoiler]

well that explains how the abyssal territories are separated into elegant north, south, east, and western territories without overlapping one another. However the island doesn't look very natural.

[tenken627]

well that explains how the abyssal territories are separated into elegant north, south, east, and western territories without overlapping one another. However the island doesn't look very natural.


I didn't post the full picture, but there seems to a little more on the sides jutting out left and right in the picture with more "Claymorese" writing. I don't know if it's just areas of the Island or the Island itself.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Yuma has some nice rear-action going their.

I wonder how Clare got that second sword, might be from one of the new Claymores.

Neither of those two MiB look like Rubel though.

[Negativedark]

Yeah, Yuma action! Cynthia dramaticly thowing off her cloak and giving all the guys nosebleeds. And three more Claymores who will be wondering WTF just happened. Oh and Rubel. You just know he'll have something interesting to say.

[tenken627]

Neither of those two MiB look like Rubel though.

It seems like Rubel was not with the 3 Claymores + 2 MiBs. He appears out of nowhere from the crowd to Clare at the end after all the fighting ends.

Sneaky like usual.

[Fenrir_valindri]

I could believe that, Rubel has always been a sneaky bastard. :heh:

[Negativedark]

Yeah, Rubel's interesting. I doubt he follows the MIB's party line. And in some ways his actions seem to be helping Claire get stronger. If she doesn't get killed.

[Tempest35]

I think it's just his (Rubel's) way of making the world more interesting to live in.

And Yuma...wow. :D Those arms put many a man to shame.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Holy crap, I just saw the chinese scans, and Yuma KICKS ASS!! (and seems to realize she has become stronger) :cool:

And Cynthia giggles in one Panel; we also see several panels of Yuma NOT sweating, and not to mention one Helen-like expression! :eyespin:

[Double_friedman]

Holy crap, I just saw the chinese scans, and Yuma KICKS ASS!! (and seems to realize she has become stronger) :cool:

And Cynthia giggles in one Panel; we also see several panels of Yuma NOT sweating! :eyespin:

Hello, thanks!

[NobodyMan]

Sweet! New chapter discussion thread is open and spoiler pics have been released.

So for a rundown, we have 3 new claymores, 2 new MIB's, 1 new AB, a rough map of the Claymore world, Yuma badassery, Clare dual wielding, and Rubel. Yeah, it's a pretty epic chapter so far. :D

Looking forward to it's release. :cool:

[Tempest35]

Holy crap, I just saw the chinese scans, and Yuma KICKS ASS!! (and seems to realize she has become stronger) :cool:

And Cynthia giggles in one Panel; we also see several panels of Yuma NOT sweating, and not to mention one Helen-like expression! :eyespin:

Yes~! Yuma's ass! - I mean - Yuma KICKS ass! :p

Cynthia of the Giggles!

[tenken627]

And Yuma...wow. :D Those arms put many a man to shame.

Yeah, that picture is of Yuma gathering yoki strength in her arms to fling her Claymore sword airborne to cut some wings off. The technique is much like what Clare did against a flying yoma in an early chapter, but this was against a flying AB. Direct hit super swinging flying sword.

Cynthia and Clare didn't have to do much afterwards since Yuma basically took out everyone and their mommas in this chapter.

[Double_friedman]

Ohh, I checked the raws and I'm really waiting a very good dialogues and many explanations...

[Fenrir_valindri]

A quick summary;

Chapter starts out with quite a bit of discussion between Yuma/Cynthia/Clare, and Cynthia seems quite knowledgeable about the territories of their small continent. (Which has an odd shape)

Next we shift to a scene of 3 Claymores in town, along with two MiB, and the two MiB appear rather distressed. (My guess is that this is the team Lune was supposed to meet up with, and they are worried that she is missing)

The Ghosts are in town as well, but are keeping a low-profile. (Nothing suspicious about those hoods)

An AB shows itself and attempts to take a surprise attack on the Claymores only to be stopped by Clare + Cynthia.

The other Claymores are shocked and Clare tells Yuma to deal with them.

Yuma appears and quickly takes out two of them with ease. (Some very nice movement here)
The last remaining Claymore matches blades with Yuma and introduces herself as number 14, and is then defeated by Yuma with ease.

The MiB are shocked but before they can do anything Yuma knocks them out as well.

Yuma is surprised that one of her opponents was such a high rank, and how easily she defeated her.

Scene switches to Clare and Cynthia owning the AB, the AB eventually separates its' body in two, the top half being humanoid with wings, and tries to escape.

Clare calls for Yuma again (we will make a leader out of you yet Clare!) and Yuma throws her sword much like Clare did back in chapter 2 and removes the AB's wings. (whether she use Yoki or not is hard to tell, it looks like her muscles just tensed up, I didn't see any "Yoki-veins."

Clare and Cynthia catch up to it as it falls and finish it off, Clare landing with Yuma's sword in her left hand.

The towns people are amazed as Clare/Cynthia/Yuma stand over the unconscious Claymores. Soon enough Rubel appears from the crowd, and Clare grows visibly upset at his appearance.

This chapter is made of win purely for 3 reasons;

#1; More Cynthia swimsuit :heh:
#2; Rubel
#3; EPIC Yuma pwnage.

[tenken627]

Chapter starts out with quite a bit of discussion between Yuma/Cynthia/Clare, and Cynthia seems quite knowledgeable about the territories of their small continent. (Which has an odd shape)


So, Cynthia's drawing is of the full Claymore continent/island?

[Vinak]

I find it quite amusing that our former number 40: Yuma is called on to take out 3 unknown Claymores, and succeeds within seconds.

[hell88]

A quick summary;

Chapter starts out with quite a bit of discussion between Yuma/Cynthia/Clare, and Cynthia seems quite knowledgeable about the territories of their small continent. (Which has an odd shape)

Next we shift to a scene of 3 Claymores in town, along with two MiB, and the two MiB appear rather distressed. (My guess is that this is the team Lune was supposed to meet up with, and they are worried that she is missing)

The Ghosts are in town as well, but are keeping a low-profile. (Nothing suspicious about those hoods)

An AB shows itself and attempts to take a surprise attack on the Claymores only to be stopped by Clare + Cynthia.

The other Claymores are shocked and asking who they are, and Clare tells Yuma to deal with them.

Yuma appears and quickly takes out two of them with ease. (and some very nice movement), the last remaining Claymore matches blades with Yuma and says she is number 14, and then is immediately defeated after that.

The MiB are shocked but before they can do anything Yuma knocks them out as well.

Yuma is surprised that one of her opponents was such a high rank, and how easily she defeated her.

Scene switches to Clare and Cynthia owning the AB, the AB eventually separates its' body in two, the top half being humanoid with wings, and tries to escape.

Clare calls for Yuma again (we will make a leader out of you yet Clare!) and Yuma throws her sword much like Clare did back in chapter 2 and removes the AB's wings. (whether she use Yoki or not is hard to tell, it looks like her muscles just tensed up, I didn't see any "Yoki-veins."

Clare and Cynthia catch up to it as it falls and finish it off, Clare landing with Yuma's sword in her left hand.

The towns people are amazed as Clare/Cynthia/Yuma stand over the unconscious Claymores. Soon enough Rubel appears from the crowd, and Clare grows visibly upset at his appearance.

This chapter is made of win purely for 3 reasons;

#1; More Cynthia swimsuit :heh:
#2; Rubel
#3; EPIC Yuma pwnage.

The chapter sounds so cool. Now I want to find out what happens in the next one with Rubal their now.

[Fenrir_valindri]

So, Cynthia's drawing is of the full Claymore continent/island?

I have no clue, but if so it is an incrediably strange shape. :uhoh:

[Double_friedman]

I find it quite amusing that our former number 40: Yuma is called on to take out 3 unknown Claymores, and succeeds within seconds.

The little girl became into a woman. Btw, we all agree that the new generation, excluding Miata, Beth and Alicia, is way weaker than the former generation.

[Fenrir_valindri]

The little girl became into a woman. Btw, we all agree that the new generation, excluding Miata, Beth and Alicia, is way weaker than the former generation.

We honestly have no way of confirming that, but I do think that the current #3 is weaker then Galatea was, but that is about it. #5 of Clare's generation really doesn't count. (Seeing as Rapahela was really a #2 as strong as a #1)

You have to realize the Ghosts are a poor measuring stick considering how powerful they have become after 7 years, the same goes for Galatea to a lesser extent.

#3 and #5's encounter with Riful really doesn't tell us anything either, and the same goes for Lune's.

[Vinak]

The little girl became into a woman. Btw, we all agree that the new generation, excluding Miata, Beth and Alicia, is way weaker than the former generation.
well yea that goes without saying...but its Yuma we're talking about here! =p

[tenken627]

Now I want to find out what happens in the next one with Rubal their now.

With this new information, it does seem like a high probability that Rubel is Miria's informant.

It does not seem like the other 2 MiBs in town knew that Rubel was there, although we need an accurate translation to be sure. But, it seems like Rubel is there on his own.

And he says he wants to "reveal" some stuff to Clare? ("Clare, I am your father.") Maybe Clare and Miria are his pawns, in some mastermind scheme of his?

[Vinak]

Rubel: Clare...I am your father

Clare: ....No....thats not true...thats impossible!

Rubel: yea your right.....but I was Teresa's father...but she's inside you now so things have gotten a little complicated.

Clare: .....

Rubel: hey Clare, call me Daddy.

Clare: What!?! NO! Get away from me you freak!

[tenken627]

Rubel: Clare...I am your father

Clare: ....No....thats not true...thats impossible!

Rubel: yea your right.....but I was Teresa's father...but she's inside you now so things have gotten a little complicated.

Clare: .....

Rubel: hey Clare, call me Daddy.

Clare: What!?! NO! Get away from me you freak!

And how many times did Rubel see Clare nekkid? In the lake, in the stream, in the hot springs, in the shower, etc

[Double_friedman]

We honestly have no way of confirming that, but I do think that the current #3 is weaker then Galatea was, but that is about it. #5 of Clare's generation really doesn't count. (Seeing as Rapahela was really a #2 as strong as a #1)

You have to realize the Ghosts are a poor measuring stick considering how powerful they have become after 7 years, the same goes for Galatea to a lesser extent.

#3 and #5's encounter really doesn't tell us anything either.

Well, I don't think Audrey is weaker than Galatea, she's shit compared to Galatea (and I really don't think Galatea is woow).:heh:
Number 5 totally sucks too, I bet Audrey and Rachel would get owned by Flora and Jean.
I like Clarice, and I also think it was quite impressive what she did against Agatha, considering she is 47, but taking in account all of her fights, we have to admit she sucks as a warrior, even so, she received a symbol. What does that fact tell us?

[Enara]

o my god!!!!!!!

[NobodyMan]

Heh, Rubel has a knack for appearing out of nowhere doesn't he? :heh:

[hell88]

Heh, Rubel has a knack for appearing out of nowhere doesn't he. :heh:

Its like you always used to say, "he's the g-man of Claymore.":heh:

[NobodyMan]

Its like you always used to say, "he's the g-man of Claymore.":heh:And I still hold by that statment. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6312/hmlolkz3.png

Next thing you know, he'll be flinging Clare, Cynthia, and Yuma into another dimension. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/144/heheelq7.png

[Fenrir_valindri]

Well, I don't think Audrey is weaker than Galatea, she's shit compared to Galatea (and I really don't think Galatea is woow).:heh:
Number 5 totally sucks too, I bet Audrey and Rachel would get owned by Flora and Jean.
I like Clarice, and I also think it was quite impressive what she did against Agatha, considering she is 47, but taking in account all of her fights, we have to admit she sucks as a warrior, even so, she received a symbol. What does that fact tell us?

Galatea was considered exceptional, even for her rank,
and most people would have serious problems with Audrey's technique. Flora and Jean included.

We have no way of telling if Flora or Jean are anywhere near close to how strong Rachel was other then complete bias, as Jean proved completly helpless against Riful, and Flora was killed instantly by Rigaldo.

Clare really wasn't much better then Clarice either. (Remember all those single Yoma Clare had problems with? She used Yoki versus normal Yoma like she couldn't have defeated them otherwise) I have a feeling every generations 47 sucks bad.

[Newhope]

What you have to remember too the ghosts are older than most of if not all the current generation,what does that mean for the ghosts Yoki power does it keep growing as they grow older or just stop as they reach a peak, not to mention the experience gat between the two sides.

[Fenrir_valindri]

It really is a big question mark on how Yoki-grows over time, but we can assume that all the training and experience over the course of 7 years has effected their strength on every level. (even if not directly)

In this chapter we see how easily "normal" Claymores were overcome by Yuma, not just because Yuma overpowered them, but because Yuma was WAY more skilled then they were.

[hell88]

And I still hold by that statment. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6312/hmlolkz3.png

Next thing you know, he'll be flinging Clare, Cynthia, and Yuma into another dimension. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/144/heheelq7.png

Flinging them into another dimension, there would be no going back then for those three.:uhoh:

Hey has anyone else noticed that first pic of the new claymore's, that the one on the right sort of looks like Miria. Ah mabye its just the hair.:eyespin:

[Yoko Takeo]

Galatea was considered exceptional, even for her rank,
and most people would have serious problems with Audrey's technique. Flora and Jean included.

I always felt that the only reason Galatea never received the position of number 1 was simply because she didn't have a twin with which to awaken. As for Audrey, I agree. Most people would find her skill a problem. She managed to block one of Riful's attacks and completely deflect it. However, I don't know if it's as effective as it looks considering Riful was holding back quite a bit at the time.

We have no way of telling if Flora or Jean are anywhere near close to how strong Rachel was other then complete bias, as Jean proved completly helpless against Riful, and Flora was killed instantly by Rigaldo.

Rachel's attack is pretty slow when it comes down to it. Flora can attack pretty instantaneously, whereas it takes time for Rachel to charge up her attack. Flora wouldn't give her the time to do that if they fought to the death. Jean takes longer to charge her attack tho, so Rachel would probably have the upper hand in this case.

Clare really wasn't much better then Clarice either. (Remember all those single Yoma Clare had problems with? She used Yoki versus normal Yoma like she couldn't have defeated them otherwise) I have a feeling every generations 47 sucks bad.

True. Like Rene said, every Claymore under 40 get wiped out faster than anybody else, but Clare was still a special case because of Teresa's flesh.

[Newhope]

It's one of the draw backs of how the MIB manage the claymores they simpley don't have the time to fully develop there fighting skills before there killed off.

From my understanding of the manga Claires rank was mainly due to the fact that she was an experiment and not her power, even though it was low at the start.

[NobodyMan]

Flinging them into another dimension, there would be no going back then for those three.:uhoh:

Hey has anyone else noticed that first pic of the new claymore's, that the one on the right sort of looks like Miria. Ah mabye its just the hair.:eyespin:One looks kind of like Deneve as well. :eyespin:

[Fenrir_valindri]

I always felt that the only reason Galatea never received the position of number 1 was simply because she didn't have a twin with which to awaken. As for Audrey, I agree. Most people would find her skill a problem. She managed to block one of Riful's attacks and completely deflect it. However, I don't know if it's as effective as it looks considering Riful was holding back quite a bit at the time.

I don't know if Galatea would be counted as #1 Material, but I put her on the same pedestal as Irene, an exceptional #2.

As for Audrey's skill, I think Riful's surprise should indicate just how good that skill actually is.

Rachel's attack is pretty slow when it comes down to it. Flora can attack pretty instantaneously, whereas it takes time for Rachel to charge up her attack. Flora wouldn't give her the time to do that if they fought to the death. Jean takes longer to charge her attack tho, so Rachel would probably have the upper hand in this case.

Ah, but there is the problem, you are looking purely at special technique, and ignoring basics like Rachel being stronger, both strength and Yoki wise. Her core "skills" would have been superior to both Flora and Jean due to her rank. It wouldn't be Jean stopping Rachel from using her attack, it would be the other way around.

The only real problem of Rachel's attack is the fact it can't reach opponent's like Riful effectively, it would really be quite easy to use against other warriors.

True. Like Rene said, every Claymore under 40 get wiped out faster than anybody else, but Clare was still a special case because of Teresa's flesh.

True, Clare was both weakened and strengthened by Teresa's flesh, and after her partial awakening her potential began to sky-rocket.

[irvinethearcher]

Ah, but there is the problem, you are looking purely at special technique, and ignoring basics like Rachel being stronger, both strength and Yoki wise. Her core "skills" would have been superior to both Flora and Jean due to her rank. It wouldn't be Jean stopping Rachel from using her attack, it would be the other way around.

There is absolutely no proof for rachel's superiority in her core skills.
Jean was a half and partial awakened single digit, so she was at the end of her short claymore life probably even stronger than the current #5 rachel in her base skills.

[hell88]

Okay you guys know what I think? Jean would own Rachel in a fight, because Jean's cool, and Rachel.... well need I say no more.

[Fenrir_valindri]

There is absolutely no proof for rachel's superiority in her core skills.
Jean was a half and partial awakened single digit, so she was at the end of her short claymore life probably even stronger than the current #5 rachel in her base skills.

True, Jean did last longer then even Flora against Rigaldo; but when we mention partial-awakenings it makes clear how absurd comparing Clare's generation (which had 5 partially-awakened Claymores) to the curret one.

Jean pre-partial-awakening is what I was refering too, as the strength we saw her display was already post partial-awakening.

But we still don't know if that really made her stronger then the current #5 or not, as I said, a direct comparison is almost impossible between generations.

Edit: and coolness isn't the only factor for winning a fight, otherwise Miria + Galatea would own anyone in the Claymoreverse, and Flora wouldn't have died. :p

[Newhope]

There is absolutely no proof for rachel's superiority in her core skills.
Jean was a half and partial awakened single digit, so she was at the end of her short claymore life probably even stronger than the current #5 rachel in her base skills.

In theory Rachel been number 5 should have more yoki which by it's nature should make her faster and stronger Jean ,But as you say Jean been partial awakened could overthrow the normal rules.

[hell88]

Stop comparing Jean to Rachel everybody, Jean was such noble and beautiful woman, and Rachel is such a.... man.....:heh:

[Fenrir_valindri]

We are only comparing their strength, I like Jean way more then that thing that barely passes for a woman. (Jean actually used to be my favorite character)

[irvinethearcher]

Jean pre-partial-awakening is what I was refering too, as the strength we saw her display was already post partial-awakening.

Okay, i've got it.

[hell88]

We are only comparing their strength, I like Jean way more then that thing that barely passes for a woman. (Jean actually used to be my favorite character)

Yeah but just having them both in the same conversation, is degrading.

[clarakiss~]

nice teamwork by clare/cynthia/yuma ^^; but sadly, not of that will work when they meet prissy. u.u

i got a feeling clare's search for raki is put on hold once more. rubel will probably give her some mission and raki's gonna slip from her grasp again.

[Enara]

I find Clare and Rubel's relationship quite odd. But the new chapter looks great.

[myshka]

Clare wasnt too thrilled to see Rubel...angry face was priceless....

[Double_friedman]

Riful's body makes easier to parry her attacks.

Claymores are given their rank in a comparative way, that's why we had Rosemary as a number one and demoted to number 2 when Teresa came; the same with MIria, if Raphaella hadn't been in the org by that time, then Miria would have been number 5. So, Rachel being number 5 doesn't mean she has more yoki than Jean.

Audrey wouldn't be fast enough to parry all the attacks that Flora would do. Even if the first one is parried, Flora can do more swings. We don't know either if Audrey would be able to parry the first attack, that is almost invisible.

Miria told Deneve, Claire and Helen that fighting with numbers 7-9 was "the same", it means by that time (the fight with the male Ab) Flora, Eva and Jean were almost on pair with Miria, who was number 6, so having a battle againts a normal number 5 or 6 wouldn't be a trouble for them (Jean and Flora).

It is not necessary for Jean to use the drill sword against Rachel. Rachel doesn't have special attacks, and the one she tried to develop totally sucks besides being very slow, so Jean would only move to avoid the attack before Rachel performs it.

I totally disagree with the one who said Galatea was number 1 material. If it weren't for her yoki trick, dulph would have stomp her with ease. When she run out of Yoki -reached her limit-, it took her a lot of time to recover. I think she was overvalued by the org.

[tenken627]

I find it quite amusing that our former number 40: Yuma is called on to take out 3 unknown Claymores, and succeeds within seconds.

The little girl became into a woman.

Our little Yuma is all grown up now.

She went from this:

Yuma Fail!
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee257/DeadGuyKai/yumafall.jpg

to this:

Yuma Win!
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4038/yumakickjc1.jpg

[NobodyMan]

Our little Yuma is all grown up now.

She went from this:

Yuma Fail!
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee257/DeadGuyKai/yumafall.jpg

to this:

Yuma Win!
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4038/yumakickjc1.jpgIt ain't no Yuma Paunch, but it sure is a Yuma Kick! :D

Maybe my fanfic isn't as out-there as I thought. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/Goobidy/Smilies/emotawesomepm9.gif

[Newhope]

I alway thought yuma was more powerful than she seemed:P

[Stream]

The little girl became into a woman. Btw, we all agree that the new generation, excluding Miata, Beth and Alicia, is way weaker than the former generation.

I'm not so sure about that. However, it is possible the previous generation was rather exceptional, if we run down the past generation's single digits:
Alicia. One of the most powerful #1s ever.
Beth. Equally powerful. At #1 level.
Galatea. Highest power boost from youki release, very fine control, and youki manipulation to boot, along with the regenerative ability that comes from being a defensive type. It's possible she should've been #2 in a normal generation.
Ophelia. Could well have been a potential #1 with more training. Excused from any form of higher rank because she goes rogue.
Rafaela. At #1 level.
Miria. Rivals #4 Noel of Teresa's generation in stats (and it's worth noting that #4 Noel was qualified to be a #3).

Its like you always used to say, "he's [Rubel] the g-man of Claymore.":heh:

I haven't heard that line before, but I completely agree.

True. Like Rene said, every Claymore under 40 get wiped out faster than anybody else, but Clare was still a special case because of Teresa's flesh.

Clare was a special case for multiple reasons. While Teresa's flesh was used to attribute an unknown factor to her, you haven't paid attention to how Clare would win her earlier battles mostly by outwitting them.

I alway thought yuma was more powerful than she seemed:P

Agreed. I merely put her on par with a low ranking single digit and everyone else on par with high ranking single digits, with Clare and Miria being on #1 level. At that stage, Yuma is still the runty one inside the group, but still strong.

[SagaraSouske]

This is Off Topic but...

The new Google Chrome loads this forum really fast.

[irvinethearcher]

Theresa's Generation is still unreached in the overall sum of the power of all claymores BECAUSE
there were two outliers which influenced the score that much:
Priscilla and Theresa;)

[Jonova]

Oh man I went out for a movie and all those good stuff happens.
Since someone already give out a chapter summary, I will just point a few interesting points I picked up:

What Cynthia draw was indeed the shape of the whole continent/island they are on, she also talked about how the org assign warriors to diffcult areas. No.1,2 and 3 are usually assigned to 3 of the 4 wings of the continent(expect north wing i guess) while the weaker warriors are assigned to the middle.

Then she told Clare don't even bother to attempt lose them since she is superior in both speed and endurance to Clare when it comes to long distance running.

Later in the forest Cynthia and Clare both did a yoki scan of surrounding area and come with the same result, Clare made a comment about how their yoki detection is complementing each other.(not quite sure about how to translate this part.)

Clare then decided to head to the nearest town for information knowing there is an AB there, in the town they encountered the 3 new Claymores(who were on pill).

The Claymores seem to be unaware of the existence of AB in town, in their conversation with the two MiB the MiB mentioned "have to enseal the news of failure in this part as best as we can." "Our news are too late, she/he/it has probably been captured already."

*It seems they are looking for someone within the orginzation, I think it is probably Lune. Since Audery brought back the news of Riful hunting for Claymores and Lune just happened to be in that area and gone missing. But the chapter doesn't explicitly say anything about it so it could be something else too.*

.

Jump to after Yuma took out all the Claymores and MiBs, she said :"That was No.14? Her sword was almost as fast as stopped."
(Not sure how to proper translate her dialog XD here.)

[Jonova]

Ophelia. Could well have been a potential #1 with more training. Excused from any form of higher rank because she goes rogue.



I don't think Ophelia has potential to be #1 at all, seeing how she got one shotted by one arm Irene.
And it is doubtful Irene has grow much stronger if any since her last encounter with Teresa, when faced by Rafaela she said :"If I had both of of my arm I might be a match for you." so she is still at No.2 level.

[Tempest35]

Our little Yuma is all grown up now.

She went from this:

Yuma Fail!
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee257/DeadGuyKai/yumafall.jpg

to this:

Yuma Win!
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4038/yumakickjc1.jpg

lol! We should declare 'YUMA DAY' for this. :D

[SagaraSouske]

Cynthia and Clare were scanning number of possible youki readings they detected.

Clare said 4 in Northeast, 2 in North, 6 in South and 16 in West. Cynthia agrees and said there are 2 large youki readings among the 16 in the west.


Yuma's comment on No 14 is basically her sword seems so slow to her as if it was frozen in time.

[Vinak]

"If I had both of of my arm I might be a match for you." so she is still at No.2 level.

why do people keep misquoting Irene?

she never said this.

[chibamonster]

I think this is the first time we have seen someone kick in a fight since Teresa's battle. Well, the 6 armed AB kicked Clare after she cut off 5 of his arms, but I'm not counting that one. It seems kicking is a good option when you don't want to kill someone, and just want them to scream, "PWNED!" as they pass out. Looks like a fun chapter.

... And of course the ghosts walk right into a fight... :p Time for Rubel to make his little deal with Clare so she is fighting something somewhere when she meets up with Raki. Nothing is simple in Claymore, especially reunions. And I like the AB's transformation process, though the actual form ... she should put on some clothes...

[Ancient Soul]

Yuma took care of two MiBs?

I thought that they are strong enough to defend themselves.They suck right now.Most likely they are barely stronger than a regular youma.Not even fast they aren't.
Why Teresa didn't kill them all back then?

Also this mission is a weird one.Is like The ORG is colapsing.

2MiBs + 3Claymore = AB hunt ?

I don't remember 2 MiBs togheter outside The ORG HQ.In fact three if Rubel was there.

Also Yuma got some nice moves...i think she replaced Galatea for this chapter.
When Galatea and Yuma learned to "dance" anyway?

I hope a full translation will come fast.

[Awakened]

noooooo have to wait for another month.

[tenken627]

Cynthia and Clare were scanning number of possible youki readings they detected.

Clare said 4 in Northeast, 2 in North, 6 in South and 16 in West. Cynthia agrees and said there are 2 large youki readings among the 16 in the west.


My initial thought about the 2 large yoki readings to the West was Riful and Raciela.

But, then I think Riful has always been known to be able to hide, if not fully suppress her yoki, and supposedly she is a good distance away from Clare and Cynthia.

And we don't even know if Raciela gives off yoki in the current Siamese twin form.

Could the two large yoki readings to the west be something else that we are not aware of yet?

[Vinak]

I think everybody on the Internet can understand the great risks involved in using kicks. I am sure the Claymores understand this as well.

My initial thought about the 2 large yoki readings to the West was Riful and Raciela.

But, then I think Riful has always been known to be able to hide, if not fully suppress her yoki, and supposedly she is a good distance away from Clare and Cynthia.

And we don't even know if Raciela gives off yoki in the current Siamese twin form.

Could the two large yoki readings to the west be something else that we are not aware of yet?


don't forget about duff

[etothex]

well holy ****. Go Yuma.
off of 4chan for those of us w/o raws yet.

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[Ancient Soul]

well holy ****. Go Yuma.
off of 4chan for those of us w/o raws yet.

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If Yuma alone can do that...The ORG is screwed!

[Jonova]

My initial thought about the 2 large yoki readings to the West was Riful and Raciela.

But, then I think Riful has always been known to be able to hide, if not fully suppress her yoki, and supposedly she is a good distance away from Clare and Cynthia.

And we don't even know if Raciela gives off yoki in the current Siamese twin form.

Could the two large yoki readings to the west be something else that we are not aware of yet?

Pretty sure they are just regular ABs, they are strong only because they are compared with normal yoma's yoki.

[clarakiss~]

clare meeting rubel may turn out to be a blessing in disguise since he always seem to have information on raki.

@ mibs - why is everyone so amazed about yuma taking out those two? aren't they just claymore handlers and human with no ability read youki. u.u

[tenken627]

Yuma took care of two MiBs?

I thought that they are strong enough to defend themselves.They suck right now.Most likely they are barely stronger than a regular youma.Not even fast they aren't.
Why Teresa didn't kill them all back then?

This does defeat the idea that the MiBs have some type of superpowers. But, we've never seen these MiBs before, and they are probably the "Clarice" of MiBs, not the higher ups.


Also this mission is a weird one.Is like The ORG is colapsing.

2MiBs + 3Claymore = AB hunt ?

I don't remember 2 MiBs togheter outside The ORG HQ.In fact three if Rubel was there.

Actually the 2 MiBs + 3 Claymores were not on an AB hunt. The Claymores were on yoki suppression pills, so they did not even realize that an AB was in town with them.

Supposedly, they were on a search for something/someone, and were in distress. People think that they are searching for Rene (Lune), the #6 Eye, who we know has been captured by Riful.

And it does not seem that either the MiBs or Claymores knew that Rubel was there. He seems to be there of his own accord, without the Organization's knowledge?

Rubel didn't seem to care much about the MiBs and Claymores on the ground. He was far much more interested in Clare.


don't forget about duff

Yeah, I always forget about Duff!

http://axisofoversteer.com/blog/pictures/WGI_07112007/duffman.jpg

I'm not sure if Duff is who Clare and Cynthia are talking about. If it is, then who is the 2nd large yoki reading?


Pretty sure they are just regular ABs, they are strong only because they are compared with normal yoma's yoki.

Possible. Maybe this was just thrown out there. But, Cynthia added it on to what was already scanned by Clare.

[Tevourious]

Sorry I see Jean mentioned and I get all weepy :) I always got the impression that Jean had been around for a while, her manner seemed very mature. I dare say she was older than Miria. So that leads to a lot of actual fighting experience. So I think she'd win through disciple and skill over that one trick sword flinger. I am very curious to see what Helen can do with Jean's technique. Also I can't wait to see what Yuma's special abilities are. LOL Besides her spinning bird kick and Yuma punch.

Umm I mean against the brute....um audrey I belive her name was.

[hell88]

well holy ****. Go Yuma.
off of 4chan for those of us w/o raws yet.

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Wow Yuma is slowly becoming everyone's fav character. In one of those panels though it looks like she's using the drill blade. Hmmm if Yuma can fight this good she won't ever have to use the Yuma Punch.:heh:

[jwpilot]

[QUOTE=tenken627;1862167]This does defeat the idea that the MiBs have some type of superpowers. But, we've never seen these MiBs before, and they are probably the "Clarice" of MiBs, not the higher ups.



The MiB training Alicia appears to be able to read youki, and at a fairly long distance too.

[Vinak]

The Grim Reaper was Fired a few days ago so Clare decided to fill the position.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/vinak/3000f53f230b8bdb7c1e7125.jpg

[MalakTawus]

why do people keep misquoting Irene?

she never said this.

Yes,she did.
But Jonova,if with both arms she could rival Raphaela,this means that Irene is not a normal n.2 since Raph is without a doubt n.1 material.Personally i think Irene could be n.1,it's just that in her generation there was Teresa....Isley,Riful,Luciela,Raphaela,Alicia and Beth are all n.1 material,but if they were in Teresa gen. they would be n.2,just like Irene.....of course it's just my opinion,but i think that if Irene will aweken (if she is still alive) she will be an abyssal one.

[hell88]

The Grim Reaper was Fired a few days ago so Clare decided to fill the position.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/vinak/3000f53f230b8bdb7c1e7125.jpg

So does this mean I'll meet Clare when I die. LOL Can't wait!:heh:

[NobodyMan]

So does this mean I'll meet Clare when I die. LOL Can't wait!:heh:Nah, Rubel will be the one who collects your corpse. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/144/heheelq7.png

[hell88]

Nah, Rubel will be the one who collects your corpse. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/144/heheelq7.png

Rubal will be the one to collect my corpse, but I'm still meeting Clare!:D:heh:

[Vinak]

Yes,she did.
But Jonova,if with both arms she could rival Raphaela,this means that Irene is not a normal n.2 since Raph is without a doubt n.1 material.Personally i think Irene could be n.1,it's just that in her generation there was Teresa....Isley,Riful,Luciela,Raphaela,Alicia and Beth are all n.1 material,but if they were in Teresa gen. they would be n.2,just like Irene.....of course it's just my opinion,but i think that if Irene will aweken (if she is still alive) she will be an abyssal one.

anime isn't canon...she never said this in the manga.

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RAGE!!!!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/vinak/RAGE.png

you make Clare ANGRY!!

You won't like Clare when She's angry!

[MalakTawus]

anime isn't canon...she never says this in the manga.

I'm not talking about the anime.In vol.7 Raph says that if Irene had both arms she could be a match to her and Irene doesn't deny it....this means that Irene could be n.1 material....and btw we don't know for sure what happened there,i know most of you think that Irene died,but i'm sure she is alive.Why?Because Yagi seems to like to draw deaths and i find VERY strange that he gave up on a memorable death like that.....and every time we are unsure if someone seems dead (read Luciela and Raph) they return.

[GundamZZ]

Cynthia confirms that both warriors and men from orgnization were unharmed. It seems they still hesitate to go against organization. Isnt' that map the Celtic cross.

[Vinak]

I'm not talking about the anime.In vol.7 Raph says that if Irene had both arms she could be a match to her and Irene doesn't deny it....this means that Irene could be n.1 material....and btw we don't know for sure what happened there,i know most of you think that Irene died,but i'm sure she is alive.Why?Because Yagi seems to like to draw deaths and i find VERY strange that he gave up on a memorable death like that.....and every time we are unsure if someone seems dead (read Luciela and Raph) they return.


heh. Their is a rather large difference between Raphaela saying something and Irene saying something. just because Irene doesn't confirm or deny something, doesn't make whatever Raphaela say true.

the only thing Irene says to Raphaela confirms Clare was with her and then she asks what Raphaela's name is why she has a scar, and why she is only ranked number 5.

I'm looking at the page right now.... I don't know what else to tell you.

http://img45.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/00000038/29.jpg

[MalakTawus]

Just a note:We don't know almost anything on ghost's powers.All we know atm is the huge gap in skills between them and normal warriors,not the difference in powers.

.....and btw,if Claire wanted she could knock-out Yuma and Cynthia in an istant and run away....why Cynthia didn't consider this option?

[Awakened]

Uma might be the first Claymore to use shoaling techniques.:nod:

[MalakTawus]

heh. Their is a rather large difference between Raphaela saying something and Irene saying something. just because Irene doesn't confirm or deny something, doesn't make whatever Raphaela say true.

the only thing Irene says to Raphaela confirms Clare was with her and then she asks what Raphaela's name is why she has a scar, and why she is only ranked number 5.

I'm looking at the page right now.... I don't know what else to tell you.

http://img45.onemanga.com/mangas/00000045/00000038/29.jpg

It's true that there is a difference in the form,but not in the fact....or do you really think that Raph was wrong in judging Irene?I don't think so.
PS:The only thing we know for sure is that both Irene and Raph were weaker than Teresa,we don't know the difference in powers between Irene and Raph,especially in the manga where Irene doesn't comment her actual powers and we don't know what happened.For all we know Irene could have won the fight and spared Raph's life,or ran away,or persuaded Raph.....the only truth is that we don't know what happened.

[Awakened]

They never told us what Uma learned for the past 7years, am starting to think she is stronger than Deneven. She seem to fight better when she use her hand foot and sword.

lol, a monster has awakened.

[Negativedark]

Well I'd say all the Ghosts are at the single digit level, and the Fab four is all over the rank five level. All Yuma has had to compare herself with is the other ghosts, all of whom were training and getting stronger along with her. I wonder if Claire did this to give Yuma some confidence in her strength, by showing her just how far she's come. And if only Yuma had done a spin while doing the split kick... "Spinning Bird Kick!"

[Vinak]

They never told us what Uma learned for the past 7years, am starting to think she is stronger than Deneven. She seem to fight better when she use her hand foot and sword.

lol, a monster has awakened.


I am going to say Yuma is still the weakest of the bunch. It fits her low self esteem. I'd still place her at the upper digits though. With the new evidence, she is above a current generation number 14 for sure.

Yuma was just in the unfortunate position of training amongst giants.

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Been looking closer at these scans. Cynthia seems to have quite the sinister side to her.. its scary, really. wish the translations were out =/

[Enara]

Were can I find the raws?

[Stream]

You can't. They only released the Chinese scanlations, which I can't read :(

[etothex]

I'd still place her at the upper digits though. With the new evidence, she is above a current generation number 14 for sure.

Yuma was just in the unfortunate position of training amongst giants.


not just above 14; she swatted #14 like a fly. Numbers 10-14 in general should be close enough to make a fight of things; she was definitely a class above. Miria also said they were all well in the single digits territory, and Miria's probably the only one able to compare effectively (against her old self, and the single digits around her)

Looks like Yuma will be able to gain some confidence from this though. Nice chapter; got to see the defensives, Cynthia and Yuma, take the spotlight. Now I wonder when Clare will find Raki, ie in how many chapters.

[Double_friedman]

why do people keep misquoting Irene?

she never said this.

Well, she said in the anime, that's why people keep saying it. I don't remember what Irene told her in the manga, but in anime said something like:
Rafa: I thought you had one arm, you'd have a chance if you had it.
Irene: No, only with my both arms I would have a chance.
... ANd then Rafaella killed Irene without hesitation. :p

OMG, the picture of Yuma falling was soo funny!!:D

[Awakened]

Is Yagy really going to kill off any of the G7? Uma is not dispensable anymore. We expect him too, but now he can use that against us, making us think he is going too, but he will never kill off his unstoppable heroes that will save the world and bring everlasting peace to all mankind.

[myshka]

some of them will die, for sure, Claymore is all about death. Yagi killed off good third of all the claymores in a span of a few chapters a year ago. Also, no one has died for quite awhile, so I have a bad feeling about this....

[cf18]

Been looking closer at these scans. Cynthia seems to have quite the sinister side to her.. its scary, really. wish the translations were out =/

Actually...
On top of being good at geography, she is still the same nice girl we know. She say she was happy that they finished the AB without anyone getting hurt, and Clare figures that it was probably one of the reasons Cynthia was sent to die by the organization. I guess Cynthia was killing extra yoma to save life against her order.

[tunjee01]

just saw chapter 83.the mib didn;t die he was knocked out by clares gang

[yezhanquan]

Rubel returns. Interesting, yeeeeesssssss.....

[PGilis]

If Yuma - the weakest of the Fab-7 - can beat a #14 that easily, that means all them are really as strong as single-digits. And considerating what Miata said too - about all of them being very strong, but two of them (most likely Clare and Miria) are far stronger than the others - i'd say:

*Former #6 Miria and former #47 Clare --> #2 Level, maybe even #1
*Former #15 Deneve --> #4 Level
*Former #22 Helen --> #5 Level
*Former #14 Cinthia --> #7 Level
*Former #31 Tabitha --> #8 Level
*Former #40 Yuma --> #9 Level

All of them are already at Single-digit level, but if we considerate their leader is Miria, someone very known for draw the best of the group in a fight for her great tactics and leadership, i'd say as a team they can pretty much beat even abissals. :)

If we add to the mix Galatea and Miata - who are at #3 or even #2 level - too, the Org is pretty much screwed.

Forget Clarice. She took Yuma's place as the useless/comic relief of the group now. :heh:

[Negativedark]

Looks like we got a whole new set of moves for Yuma. Yuma dual kick, Yuma swat, and Yuma chops. Go Yuma. My one fear is that Yagi has given charecters development and shown of their skill only to kill them a few chapters later (Flora).

[Enara]

If we add to the mix Galatea and Miata - who are at #3 or even #2 level - too, the Org is pretty much screwed.

Just thinking about Galatea training with the Fab 7. she woud have been... gulp.:upset:

[Tempest35]

a Clayser, Neg??? LOL

...anyway, Yuma's too hot right now. And she wanted them to throw her away??? Yeah right.


Clare: Good Job Yuma *pets her head*

Yuma: *tail wags* ^-^

Cynthia: You're such a nice girl Clare. Letting Yuma do most of the work so she can get her confidence up.

Clare: *turns away* ... not really, I was just lazy and didn't want to fight the stupid warriors, that's all...

Cynthia: Ah haaa~ and that has nothing to do with Miria's request to train Yuma with you while we're out here?

Clare: What? Who told you that!?

Cynthia: *holds the piece of paper with Miria's handwriting on it* Fu fu, I was the 2nd highest ranked out of all of us. Don't think you can fool me, my pretty. Kurupo~ *giggles uncontrolably*

Clare: ><...

[yezhanquan]

I don't remember Flora living for too long (read: 2 chapters?) after her "development".

[Awakened]

What if the mibs and Claymores were looking for Ruble?

He might have deserted. If he is a spy, they might be on to him.
He might be added to Miria’s army.

If they were looking for Renee there is no need to use yoki pills, and it’s very unusual to have 3 mibs in the field.

[mosmos]

What if the mibs and Claymores were looking for Ruble?

He might have deserted. If he is a spy, they might be on to him.
He might be added to Miria’s army.

If they were looking for Renee there is no need to use yoki pills, and it’s very unusual to have 3 mibs in the field.

Hey you might be right ! And I hope you are right..
It would be interesting

[Fenrir_valindri]

I think they might have been using Yoki pills to avoid possible detection by Riful, as they may be in the same area.

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I also found it interesting to note that foot-speed wise and Stamina wise that Cynthia is quite capable of keeping up with, and outlasting Clare.

[Ancient Soul]

...after this chapter Clare and Miria just retired and joined Galatea at Rabona's Hot Springs... :)

Yuma is now the one who will take care of The ORG and abyssals.

Yuma : ...Hit\Kick\Throw\Punch...The World is saved!

Galatea : Girls, let's cheer Yuma!
Miria,Clare : Go Yuma!Go Yuma!Go Yuma! :p

I think Raki gived some of his LUCK to Clare...i mean Clare needed a lot of "LUCK" to meet with Rubel so quickly. :D

[Ancient Soul]

What if the mibs and Claymores were looking for Ruble?

He might have deserted. If he is a spy, they might be on to him.
He might be added to Miria’s army.

If they were looking for Renee there is no need to use yoki pills, and it’s very unusual to have 3 mibs in the field.

I rather want Ermita to betray...since he was Galatea\Miria handler...and beside Rubel i think he recieved some manga screen among the MiBs.He was at the last MiBs meeting (when they send Clarice and Miata after Galatea)?Rubel was.

[MalakTawus]

I bet on Yuma's death quite soon.....her only hope to survive this imo is that Cynthia is with her(she can help healing).
The ghosts are very strong compared to normal warriors.....the only problem is that some of their enemies are not so normal.....Al+Beth,Riful,Duph,Raph+Luc,PRISCILLA,I sley(?) and maybe in the future someone outside the island.....there will be a lot of deaths or near-deaths in the future.If you think about it their only hope to survive a fight with these monsters is Claire and her hidden powers(You can't beat them with strategy......well,Duph is ok but the others....).
My second bet is that Priscilla will become an ally after her fight with Claire;she is not really evil imo and i doubt Raki will let the two girls kill each others.First i thought Claire vs Priscilla will be the final fight in Claymore but now i think the main enemy will be something about the organization(or maybe the organization outside the island).Just a bet.

[PGilis]

I think Raki gived some of his LUCK to Clare...i mean Clare needed a lot of "LUCK" to meet with Rubel so quickly. :D

Lucky indeed... :p

CLARE: Rubel!!
RUBEL: (Grinning) Hello Clare. Long time no see.
CLARE: (smirking) What a PLEASURE to meet you again, after all these years! I forgot to "thank you" for all those crappy missions you gave me!!
**Clare grabs sword**
RUBEL: Better not. Don't forget i have these Claymores with me and...
**Looks at them, lying in the ground**
YUMA: I already beat them all. :p
RUBEL: I... I still have other MIB guys with me and... :twitch:
**Looks at them, lying in the ground**
YUMA: I beat them too. (Big smile in the face)
**Grabs sword**
RUBEL: W...warriors from the Org don't must turn against their masters.
CINTHIA: Te-hee... We're retired, you forgot?
**Grabs sword**
RUBEL: You... you can't kill humans, remember?
CLARE: Don't worry... We promise to do anything to you BUT kill, right Girls?
YUMA/CINTHIA: Riiiiiight!!
RUBEL: H...Help... :upset:

:D:D:D

[servidor]

Actually...
On top of being good at geography, she is still the same nice girl we know. She say she was happy that they finished the AB without anyone getting hurt, and Clare figures that it was probably one of the reasons Cynthia was sent to die by the organization. I guess Cynthia was killing extra yoma to save life against her order.

Wasn't Cynthia a magical girl before joining the Claymore's ranks? :p
http://cdimg3.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/09022008/0/4/5/2/0452cee7924050_full.jpg

[PGilis]

Yeah. She just need to give poses with one eye closed and a "V" after killing youmas to become the "MOE" Claymore! :D

[Negativedark]

Well Cynthia and Claire did dramatically thow off their cloaks. That could be the Henshin sequence. Oh and PGilis, lets not forget this...

Claire- And I'm really going to get even with you for all those times you snuck up on me when I was naked.
Cynthia- Damn Pervy MIB's. I hated that!

[Ancient Soul]

Well Cynthia and Claire did dramatically thow off their cloaks. That could be the Henshin sequence. Oh and PGilis, lets not forget this...

Claire- And I'm really going to get even with you for all those times you snuck up on me when I was naked.
Cynthia- Damn Pervy MIB's. I hated that!

Don't forget what always happened before EACH of Galatea's missions :

Ermita : Galatea, i have a new mission for you...
Galatea : Yes?
Ermita : ...before that you must change your outfit...is dirty from the last mission...here is a new one...
Galatea : Oh, thanks Ermita...

(Galatea turn around and slow began to change her outfit while Ermita put himself to a rock)

Galatea(finish change and turn) : Ready!What is the mission?
Ermita : What mission?
Galatea (for herself) : Old perv...
Galatea (for show) : Ah, i forget to take a bath first...

[tenken627]

The MiB training Alicia appears to be able to read youki, and at a fairly long distance too.

The MiB training Alicia didn't actually read Riful's yoki. That was Alicia giving her answer to the MiB's question after she read Riful's yoki. We have never seen an instance where an MiB was able to read yoki.

Chapter 49, page 30 (Volume 9, page 124) 10sigh's translation-

MiB: That just now was Riful. So? Do you think you could win?

Alicia: As I was only able to catch a glimpse of the outer layer of her power, I cannot give a precise estimate right now but... I believe I would be able to deal about 50% damage to her... And then die.

MiB: I see... So we still have a ways to go...




Isnt' that map the Celtic cross.

My thought was the same when I first saw the map.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8092/mapft7.png

It's a cross, with an X in the middle to divide it into North, South, East, West.


It's also interesting to hear Cynthia say that Claymores ranked #1, #2, and #3 patrol the large wing areas, and all the other Claymores ranked #4-#47 take a tiny portion of the box in the middle. We need an accurate translation for that part.

It seems that the 4th large wing is unpatrolled. Jonovo thought it was the North, because it's currently desolate and is handled in a special matter by the Organization.

I tend to believe that Cynthia is referring to the East, because in her generation (Clare's generation), the new plans for the North were not implemented yet since they happened after the battle at Pieta. The North was still inhabited by people at that time and was a normal area of the continent.

And I tend to think that Cynthia was referring to the patrol policy in a traditional sense, since Alicia and Beth (the #1 and #2 for both the old and new generation) are unable to patrol. The East wouldn't need to be patrolled by a top 3 ranking Claymore since that's the base of Organization operations.


Also, since only one Claymore patrols the outer wings traditionally, and 44 Claymores patrol the middle, it seems that most of the human population on the Claymore continent lives in that small box in the middle.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/7894/map2ey9.png

That does make sense when it does not seem to take much time for people to travel from one area to the other (South to West, West to North). Everything (cities, towns) is pretty much (or close to) close to that inner box on that map. That may also be the reason why we haven't seen much referring to a coastal town, since the coasts would be mostly on the wings.

The wing areas may also hold the towns and cities of people with no knowledge of yomas, ABs, or Claymores, as they are more isolated.

[evil_kenshin]

The MiB training Alicia didn't actually read Riful's yoki. That was Alicia giving her answer to the MiB's question after she read Riful's yoki. We have never seen an instance where an MiB was able to read yoki.

Well at the very least theres some suspicious instances

- Rubel somehow finding Rapheala when she was doing her best to hide
- Those two handlers commenting on Isley and staring in the direction of where the AB's were coming from.

[Ancient Soul]

I wonder if Ermita (former? handler for number 3-6, nr 5 Rafela excepted) is missing, dead or betrayed and The ORG is searching for him.

When he appeared (as far i remember\checked) :

...before the time skip...

When Ophelia (nr. 4) Miria (before be nr. 6) first apperead (by timeline\extra scene 2 at an AB hunt\HE give Miria the nickname "Phantom" and prise her for being a good leader!).
When Miria (nr. 6) (Ch 25) meet Clare.
When Galatea (nr. 3) first appeared (Ch 30) observing Miria's fight.
When Galatea (nr. 3) is send after Clare (Ch 41).

In chapter 41 Rubel and Ermita where togheter before the council and Rubel noticed "this has something of a stalemate" after Rimuto decided to send Galatea after Clare.Rather than Rimuto's decision maybe Rubel talked about Ermita's pupil Galatea vs Clare his "daughter".
After this mission Galatea was a step to be executed and soon after left The ORG...

...after the time skip...

There where two MiBs meetings when Clarice told them about the swords\Rubel was there (Ch 68\i didn't observed him, were a lot of handlers there...maybe bacause Clarice's breast took my attention), and when they send Miata after Galatea (Ch 73).Both meetings involved info about former claymores he handled...he wasn't there.We were introduced to Audrey, Miata, Rachel, Renee (nr. 3,4,5,6) which should be in his care...he wasn't there.

In the first part of the manga we see Ermita quite a lot.After Rubel, he was the one MiB with the most manga screen.After the time skip is nowhere to be found.Also in charge of Miata was Rado (who is Clarice's handler).I see this like a breach of protocol since most likely the handler with the highest rank oversee a mission...as far we see in Claymore.For example Orsay was in charge of Teresa's execution\hunt (as Priscila's handler), Ermita in slashers (as Miria's handler).Or Rado is in charge for higher numbers now.

In (Ch 30) Ermita said to Galatea something like "think about a father concern for his childrens" and Galatea in the end warn him "to keep his parental concerns in check" and acknowledge him like a father but a wily fox!Well, this was a rather strange conversation between a claymore and a handler i think.

Ermita has ties with both Galatea & Miria.
Maybe like Galatea & Miria he got sick of what is happening and left.

[tenken627]

Well at the very least theres some suspicious instances

- Rubel somehow finding Rapheala when she was doing her best to hide

If Claymores can't detect Raphaela's yoki, I don't know if Rubel can either. He probably used something else to find Raphaela, or he's just so damn smart, he logically deduced together her location. Rubel's brain > everybody. lol

If Rubel has abilities, I'm not sure that yoki reading is one of them.

Rubel is also mysterious. I don't know if we should compare him to the other normal MiBs. Or at least the other lower MiBs. Same with Rimuto. That's another mysterious man.

- Those two handlers commenting on Isley and staring in the direction of where the AB's were coming from.

Well, the MiBs knew that the AB attack will come from the North. The ABs wouldn't take a detour and try to flank the Organization. Plus, Galatea was standing right next to them.

[PGilis]

Well at the very least theres some suspicious instances

- Rubel somehow finding Rapheala when she was doing her best to hide
- Those two handlers commenting on Isley and staring in the direction of where the AB's were coming from.

That don't necessarily mean they can sense youki. Rubel was allways saying he can find anyone he want, and those two MIBs could have been informed - by any Claymore - about the army of A.O.s coming from afar.

Besides, if that was true, the other way would be possible too... In other words, any Claymore would sense their youki. Specially those with great youki reading like Clare, Galatea and even Raphaela. But they never sense anything.

On the other hand, what if some MIBs are indeed AOs or even DODs experts in Youki hiding disguised? The hell would break loose!! :heh:

Anyway, i hope Rubel is indeed Miria's contact, otherwise now he knows Clare is still alive and I'm pretty sure he can deduce she is still searching for Raki and can use that against her. Even worse if he discover Raki is the only one able to control the most powerful A.O. ever, Priscilla! :heh:

[Stream]

Well at the very least theres some suspicious instances

- Rubel somehow finding Rapheala when she was doing her best to hide
- Those two handlers commenting on Isley and staring in the direction of where the AB's were coming from.

1) Raphaela supresses her youki, so that negates your argument, unless you wish to imply they have Teresa/Galatea level sensing and could somehow sense youki remnants through the suppression.

2) You would have to be a bloody idiot not to know in what general direction the enemy's army is when coming to check out the situation.

Aah... really hoping for a full-length translation.

In the meantime, here's a partial one I swiped off of the OM boards:

1.
Any problem, Yuma?
It's ok. I can keep up with the current pace. Don't worry about me.
...
I see it!

2.
The western land is up ahead.
Victoria (?)
Starting from here?
Weren't we travelling in the west all along?
Yes, for convenience sake, and because of the abyssal ones, the organisation divided the land into 4 areas.

3.
This land... which is what people up till now regard as the only remaining large (???)..
is roughly shaped like this.
However, this is the way the land is divided by the organisation
based on where the abyssal ones dwell and where the organisation lies; hence it is divided into 4 parts.
But...
The normal way of thinking is like this...
with the middle piece of land (??) and Rabona included in it.

4.
To make it easier for the organisation's No. 1. 2 and No. 3 to react to anything, they are assigned this area. The remaining warriors are evenly distributed around the middle. (not entirely sure about this, would someone correct me please? - htcheng?)
...
It's useless.
!
Based on speed or stamina, I should be above Clare.
Leaving Yuma out, it's impossible slip away from me.
Huh?

5.
Even if I get lost in the pursuit... I will be able to follow the trail and catch up together with Yuma.
Based on her character, Clare gets out of control easily, therefore we must do things together
... this was what sister Miria ordered me to do.
Don't worry, if we meet the young man you're looking for... and if you want to stay by his side, we will automatically leave both of you alone. No worries.
Chhh...
That bit** Miria, gave me this pesky person.

After that, they sensed 16 auras from the west, and out of these, the 2 strongest could be awakened beings. So they decided to stay as a team and check it out.

... (let's skip into the action shall we?)

10.
What?
3 Claymores?
What are they doing in this city?
This is a problematic situation...
can it suppress yoki...
But 3 warrior isn't enough to defeat an awakened being.
Oh, and I'm afraid they haven't noticed the presence of the awakened one.
To suppress yoki in such a small city, it must be...
Clare! That...

11.
Blacksuits?
And two of them together...
It's rare to see this... in the scene and together with warriors.
Is there anything?
No, nothing in this city...

12.
Damn!
We the news arrived too late.
We must not lets news of this failure leak.
Rune must have been captured.
News? ... capture?.. who are they looking for?
Clare, from the point of the warriors, they seem to be looking for one of their own.
The awakened being to starting to make its move.
!!

13.
This.. what is this?!

14.
Awakened being?!

15.
You! Who are you?
Yuma, sorry to trouble you...
Bastard.

16.
You ass..

17.
Impossible! A match for even myself, No. 14.

18.
The warriors...
Don't tell me its...

19.
Huff. That's No. 14?
Her sword looks stationary.
Unknowingly, I have grown stronger.
This would mean... my comrades who have not realised this... how much stronger are they?

20.
Bit*ch

21.
You...
Who are you people?

22.
Sorry my movements are a little slow.
The warriors and blacksuits have all lost their consciousness now.
Now we can finally move freely.
From now, I'll finish you in one breath (literal translation)

23.
Hahaha!
YUMA!

27.
Yuma.
Hahaha. Sorry.

That's all for now. Sorry I don't have more time for this.

[tenken627]

In the meantime, here's a partial one I swiped off of the OM boards:

1.
Any problem, Yuma?
It's ok. I can keep up with the current pace. Don't worry about me.
...
I see it!

2.
The western land is up ahead.
Victoria (?)
Starting from here?
Weren't we travelling in the west all along?
Yes, for convenience sake, and because of the abyssal ones, the organisation divided the land into 4 areas.

... (let's skip into the action shall we?)

10.
What?
3 Claymores?
What are they doing in this city?
This is a problematic situation...
can it suppress yoki...
But 3 warrior isn't enough to defeat an awakened being.
Oh, and I'm afraid they haven't noticed the presence of the awakened one.
To suppress yoki in such a small city, it must be...
Clare! That...

11.
Blacksuits?
And two of them together...
It's rare to see this... in the scene and together with warriors.
Is there anything?
No, nothing in this city...

12.
Damn!
We the news arrived too late.
We must not lets news of this failure leak.
Rune must have been captured.
News? ... capture?.. who are they looking for?
Clare, from the point of the warriors, they seem to be looking for one of their own.
The awakened being to starting to make its move.
!!

13.
This.. what is this?!

14.
Awakened being?!

15.
You! Who are you?
Yuma, sorry to trouble you...
Bastard.

16.
You ass..

17.
Impossible! A match for even myself, No. 14.

18.
The warriors...
Don't tell me its...

19.
Huff. That's No. 14?
Her sword looks stationary.
Unknowingly, I have grown stronger.
This would mean... my comrades who have not realised this... how much stronger are they?

20.
Bit*ch

21.
You...
Who are you people?

22.
Sorry my movements are a little slow.
The warriors and blacksuits have all lost their consciousness now.
Now we can finally move freely.
From now, I'll finish you in one breath (literal translation)

23.
Hahaha!
YUMA!

27.
Yuma.
Hahaha. Sorry.

That's all for now. Sorry I don't have more time for this.

Bleh, I was hoping that the translation would be for the first few pages and last few pages since those are the meaty dialogue sections (Clare, Cynthia, Yuma talking in beginning, and the trio talking after the fight and then Rubel popping up at the end).

But, thanks for posting this!

[NobodyMan]

Lucky indeed... :p

CLARE: Rubel!!
RUBEL: (Grinning) Hello Clare. Long time no see.
CLARE: (smirking) What a PLEASURE to meet you again, after all these years! I forgot to "thank you" for all those crappy missions you gave me!!
**Clare grabs sword**
RUBEL: Better not. Don't forget i have these Claymores with me and...
**Looks at them, lying in the ground**
YUMA: I already beat them all. :p
RUBEL: I... I still have other MIB guys with me and... :twitch:
**Looks at them, lying in the ground**
YUMA: I beat them too. (Big smile in the face)
**Grabs sword**
RUBEL: W...warriors from the Org don't must turn against their masters.
CINTHIA: Te-hee... We're retired, you forgot?
**Grabs sword**
RUBEL: You... you can't kill humans, remember?
CLARE: Don't worry... We promise to do anything to you BUT kill, right Girls?
YUMA/CINTHIA: Riiiiiight!!
RUBEL: H...Help... :upset:

:D:D:DHaha, Rubel and fear don't mix well in my book. http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/144/heheelq7.png

And thanks for posting a translation, Stream. :D

And I mostly agree with Tenken's map theory. I also think that the Island has a very unusual and almost unnatural shape. Wonder what that's all about?

[hydropod]

UMA!!!
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2845/ea4871160771014921a4e96yo8.gif

[Stream]

@Tenken, same here and no problem.

@NobodyMan, Yeah, I can't really imagine Rubel being noticeably scared myself.

Also, NOTE that the original text doesn't reference Rune. That was MC2's interpretation of a generic 3rd person pronoun. It's possible that they weren't looking for Rune/Renee, but Rubel/Louvre.

Now for an off-the-cuff theory to kill time with:

Hmm, is it my imagination or is this some foreshadowing?

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7604/pictj9.pngSomehow I get the feeling that one of these days Clare is going to pick up Teresa's sword and start dualwielding.

[NobodyMan]

I forgot to mention this before, but just remembered it.

Rubel still hasn't aged at all! He looks no older then he was when Clare asked to be a Claymore. Actually, I'll take it further back and say he doesn't look any older than he was when he talked to Raphaela after the Soul-Link incident. :p

So, I still stick by the theory that MIB's aren't fully human. :D

[PGilis]

And he will become even less human when Clare put her hands on him! :heh:

Maybe he is not afraid of her, but that don't change the fact she (or any Claymore for that matter) don't exactly has lots of good memories with him. ;)

According to Stream's translation, we can suppose the MIBs are taking action in a desesperate search for someone, and those 3 Claymores are their bodyguards. I can think in two scenarios here:

1) They're searching for Rubel, the traitor.

2) They're searching for the Eye of the Organization, #6 Renee.

If they're searching for Renee, Clare can decide to search for her too. Let's hope her group can find her before Riful's new friend awake. That way she can find about Raki from Renee (if someone survive, that is).

[NobodyMan]

And he will become even less human when Clare put her hands on him! :heh:

Maybe he is not afraid of her, but that don't change the fact she (or any Claymore for that matter) don't exactly has lots of good memories with him. ;)That's true, but I think he has a trump card or some good info if he's just walking out of the crowd and saying hello to them. :D

Maybe he has some tantalizing info on Raki? :naughty:

Either that or he reveals some more information on the Org and their doings or some more info on the mainland. Maybe he reveals that he is Mira's informant?

[PGilis]

Maybe he has some tantalizing info on Raki? :naughty:

Either that or he reveals some more information on the Org and their doings or some more info on the mainland. Maybe he reveals that he is Mira's informant?

Maybe he reveals that he is Miria's LOVER? :p

**HIDES**

[williamaugustus]

That would ruin my life. AAAAHHHHHH!!! dont say such things!

[NobodyMan]

Maybe he reveals that he is Miria's LOVER? :p

**HIDES**
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff127/tetrabinary/Two/Replies/oh_u.jpg

Ahem...

Anyway, I'll place my bets on Renee managing to tell Clare about Raki being alive before she dies, otherwise her conversation with Raki would've been a waste. :D

[Sci-Fi]

If you think about it, nobody else knows what happened, who or what the G7 looks like. So killing off Rubel would keep their existence unknown for a little while longer. But Rubel probably has a slimey deal for Clare and the gang.

[clarakiss~]

it's quite obvious rubel will tell clare about riful and the 'merged sisters' she has with her and clare will eventually find herself going over there... ignoring miria's orders by making contact to every awaken beings she comes across or even abyssal ones. :p

renee will tell clare about raki, she has to. otherwise the meeting between renee and raki would be meaningless if it doesn't.

[Newhope]

One thing that I didn't like about this chapter was the map of the island there on and where the main human populations are, If I read it right Cynthia says the main human settlement was in the center of the island, if this is true it goes against normal human patterns which see them settling near coastal areas then slowly moveing up rivers, even today in our world the largest Human concentrations are near coastal areas.

[Vinak]

yes, but we don't have to worry about killer youma eating us on a daily basis.

it would make sense for the human population to cluster together, avoiding long trade routes and large open spaces.

however you still have a point. how do they produce enough food without relying on fish and large farms?

[williamaugustus]

well the MiBs who first established the factory probably put them in the middle to start with. its not like they came on a ship with knowledge of the outer world. if they did they would know to get off the island. but if the MiBs put them in the center of the island and told them that that island was all there was then there would be almost no point of settling on the coast.

[Tempest35]

Well think about it....in the four corners, you have 3 Abyssal ones and one ORG...who's gonna WANT to venture into those lands in the first place???

[Tevourious]

Well this is very true. I have a theory as to why that is.

1 This island was obviously seeded by the powers that are fighting the major war. If you don't want the "Normals" Realizing whats going on. Mainly, that they are no less than fodder or better yet, thats there is a whole other world out there.

I really hate to compare it to this... But consider the island the "Matrix" You have a large population thats centered in on location with no idea whats really going on. Then you feed them horror story after horror story, backed up by real evidence that going beyond the borders is a bad thing. I mean, the forests and outlands are teeming with Yoma which are confirmed. I sure as hell wouldn't go exploring much. Think of it like when everyone thought the world was flat, NO one wanted to venture out into the ocean for fear of falling off the world. Same thing, I'm not going out there, there freaking monsters!! Which is true LOL.

That explains why they are huddled up in one spot, and why everyone thinks that this island, IS their world. Now I'm sure that the cities are built around rivers and streams as normal, they just don't venture to the coasts. :)

On another note, there are so many powerful players dancing around the map right now. Some are MIA but need to be accounted for. There are also some threats that may make Priss seem like a wash out.

The Seven Alone could prolly take down the Organization "As we know it" They have the power to do it, especially hit and run tactics, to take out the Loyal Claymores. They are a potent group now, even Yuma obviously ranks now in the realm of Jean or so, prior to her "Half Awakening" Miria is definatly No1 Material, and Clare is Clare. Deneve and Helen are a shoe in for a No2 I'd say. So they've some power behind them.

Of course this doesn't include Alicia in the equation. Who knows just how powerful she really is. I'm not selling her short by any means. The Awakened Ones she killed were obviously generic ones however. No where near the leauge of an abyssal. Clare and her group could and have wiped out a large number of foes with just as much ease. So it's hard to tell how strong she really is. I seriously doubt she's actually as powerful as Riful or Isley, she most likely ranks somewhere around Lucy's power, or just below it.

Then there is Priss... Oh wow... at the moment, I dare say she could be killed by Riful or even the seven. But who the hell knows just what her limit is, she easily handed Isley his ass. But now, who knows. Obviously Clare is only one who can pull that off. Unless it goes the typical. Ooooh shes a badass BOOM out of no where the new bad guy shows up and wipes the floor with her just to show how powerful he/she is. I'd stop reading in that case and just go to reading any other typical manga. I have faith in Yagi though :)

The Overseas powers.... No idea, none at all. Priss could and Teresa could be minor players compared to these guys. "See the above" Or they could have wiped themeselves out ages ago and everyone on the island goes on none the wiser. It would be intresting if that was the case when all is said and done.

Miata... Whats he limit? Who knows? I'm not thinking shes the new destroyer of worlds like I had feared. Though she is obviously powerful, shes not overwhelmingly so. However, if she awakened, I think she'd be a decent threat to whomever. Perhaps on par with how much Rigaldo owned everyone but scaled up to their new levels of power. OR she could simply be as powerful Rigaldo, a threat yes, but nothing horribly bad considering where everyone is now. I think the seven could take Rigaldo now, though loosing one of the weaker girls would be likely.

Raphicila or whatever we're calling her now a days. Suprise suprise. I think these ladies will end up on the side of the angels. I forsee them taking out Alicia and Beth. Raph failed once, I don't see her doing it again. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if she were the one to Kill Riful, or at least Dauph. I can see her not wanting to stay that way though. So after either or both situations I can see her helping Clare, teaching her something, perhaps about soul linking "With her inner Teresa perhaps" Either way, I see her dying afterwards sadly, letting Clare end her life so she and her sister can finally have peace.

Riful, regardless of the above, Riful is crafty. I can see her getting messed up by Raphelica <<--what are we calling them now?? Or perhaps, she could very well get control of her, sad yes, but just maybe. I think Riful is making a mistake toying with those two. She has a larger part to play but she seems really desperate at this point. Just what is her goal? Why even bother fighting Isley at this point I'm not even sure what exactly they are fighting over. Land?? Neither seems like the type to "Rule" over anything, but you don't really see them in their "Off time" Is she just wanting to stay alive by killing Isley before he and his pet kills her. Most likely, which leads to...

Isley. What the hell dude? Whats he after exactly? He was content to his side of the island until Priss showed up. Does he want the be the big dog of the island? I think Isley is FULL aware of whats going on, he may even be hoping the be last man standing to take his place in what ever nonsense is going on overseas. OR perhaps even build a army to try and take over those distant shores. But if he was, why not bring in Riful, he can obviously handle her one on one. So he has nothing to fear. He clearly wants her dead, but why exactly? Thats a question, why are the Abyssals wanting each other dead all of a sudden?? Or at all?

[Vinak]

well the MiBs who first established the factory probably put them in the middle to start with. its not like they came on a ship with knowledge of the outer world. if they did they would know to get off the island. but if the MiBs put them in the center of the island and told them that that island was all there was then there would be almost no point of settling on the coast.


the point of settling on coastal regions is for an abundant source of food, and water.

[Negativedark]

Heck the Ghosts could easily screw with the orgs loyal Claymores simply by bieng talkative. "The organization Makes Yoma, because they need controlable awakened biengs to fight in a war." Even if the Claymores don't belive them, the org is not going to want word of that to spread.

[Double_friedman]

One thing that I didn't like about this chapter was the map of the island there on and where the main human populations are, If I read it right Cynthia says the main human settlement was in the center of the island, if this is true it goes against normal human patterns which see them settling near coastal areas then slowly moveing up rivers, even today in our world the largest Human concentrations are near coastal areas.

Actually people moved to coastal areas when they knew how to avoid coastal diseases from insects and stuff like that. Actually, first civilizations settled down on areas close to rivers: Egypt, Mesopotamy, India and China and then they moved to coastal areas.
Nowadays the coast is sure and free of diseases, besides the sea is a source of commerce.

[Bikerider]

I speculate that the org is desperately searching for Priscilla. She's not with Isley any more. This could be disasterous for them to have an abyssal one anonymously roaming among the human population.

GO YUMA !!! Second Haughtest Claymore after Clare.

[Vinak]

GO YUMA !!! Second highestClaymore after Clare.


uhh...no, Yuma is still the weakest amongst the Ghosts. In fact she struggles just to keep up with them while they travel.

The six other ghosts think she hasn't gained any strength in the seven years. But this is only because they have gotten so much stronger in those seven years that Yuma still feels the same to them.

[williamaugustus]

the point of settling on coastal regions is for an abundant source of food, and water.

oh i know this. but if the MiBs make it so that a society of people with minimal technology is started in the center of the island then they would grow and build there before moving to the coast. so by the time they get to the coast there are many major cities in the center and the majority of the popullation still resides there. normally where a popullation first settles is where most of the popullation stays.

[Negativedark]

uhh...no, Yuma is still the weakest amongst the Ghosts. In fact she struggles just to keep up with them while they travel.

The six other ghosts think she hasn't gained any strength in the seven years. But this is only because they have gotten so much stronger in those seven years that Yuma still feels the same to them.

No that can't be right. If Claire thought that then she wouldn't have sicked Yuma on the three Claymores of unknown rank. Nor would Miria have stated that none of them would be overwhelmed by Single digits.

[Vinak]

Clare and the other Ghosts may or may not know Yuma's true strength. However Yuma clearly doesn't think very highly of herself which is why she describes herself as being "a real drag" and maintains a submissive personality with all of them including Clare the former number 47. Again, she struggles just to keep up with the rest of them.

Clare could have been able to sense the claymores strength and decided to send Yuma after them to build her confidence. After all, Clare fully understands what it feels like to be at the bottom.

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Just an IMO of current Ghost rank by strength:
Clare, Miria, Deneve, Helen, Cynthia, Tabitha, Yuma

I went ahead and put Clare ahead of Miria based on their most recent duel and Clare's apparent ability to use her wind cutter to immobilize Miria during their bout. Miria is the leader in name only because of her superior strategic and tactical abilities.

[Tempest35]

Well, actually, the only indication that Yuma's the weakest one is Yuma herself - her low self-esteem is the only thing holding her back and as we've see, she's a potent force in of herself. Dare I say that TimeSkip Yuma could have given SlashersArc Miria a very nice workout.

And again, Yuma probably set her sights high in her training. Yuma's 'Onee-sama' has been the one and only Clare. She probably tried to 'keep up' with Clare, always going against her to try and improve herself but with only the other 6 around her, she couldn't see just how big a jump she was making so while her actual power increased dramatically, her self-esteem stayed around the same.

Poor girl, she's actually done quite well for herself - she should be proud, as all of us are. :)

[Newhope]

The training during the time skip would have benefited Yuma the most, generally when a group trains togeather it's the weaker members that gains the most, gaining knowledge and technical expertise from the stronger members of the group, plus I think Miria is the type to take someone like Yuma under her wing and help her in her training.

We can't really comment on strength For starters we haven't really seen Deneve, Helen and Tabitha fight yet, and judgeing by this chapter all the ghosts strengths maybe closer to each other than we previously thought.

[clarakiss~]

clare and miria are far ahead from the rest, while the others are equal in power and yuma's probably a tad behind the 'equal ones.'

and raki? let's just say, seven years is not enough for clare to catch up. :p lol

[Bikerider]

I didn't say highest I said HAUGHEST !!!!
Not the same. Not at all.

[myshka]

Who needs the ORG anymore, Clare and her gang will take care of all ABs for free! Rejoice common folk!

[Vinak]

I didn't say highest I said HAUGHEST !!!!
Not the same. Not at all.
not a word...

[cf18]

Yuma is still the slowest - in walking. :p She is still weak at Yuki sensing, as seen on chapter 69 and this one. Yuma had 7 years of training with some strong ones so she better be good at standard combat.

Mean while Cynthia is showing long range Yuki sensing skill equal to Clare. I guess Clare also focus on combat skill in her training, ignoring her potential in the sensing area.

[MalakTawus]

@Tevourious:I like your post,just two things: Miria isn't n.1 material and i doubt that Isley can win against Riful in a one on one without risking his life too,they have equal powers (or so it seems).

I agree with Vinak's ranking powers but i'd like to see the ghosts fighting using their Yoki powers to see their real strenght.I'm sure in hard battles they will be forced to use it.(....and yes,i want to see the new flash-sword!!!)

[Hypernova]

One thing that I didn't like about this chapter was the map of the island there on and where the main human populations are, If I read it right Cynthia says the main human settlement was in the center of the island, if this is true it goes against normal human patterns which see them settling near coastal areas then slowly moveing up rivers, even today in our world the largest Human concentrations are near coastal areas.

Actually from the chinese scan what the maps are actually:

X version) How the org classify regions, Just N.S.E.W.

centre square version) How the normal people name the land. NSEW and the centre region call Toruz where Ribona is in.

[Goofus Maximus]

(....and yes,i want to see the new flash-sword!!!)

I don't think there is a new flash sword, since the 7 ghosts couldn't use any yoki releasing techniques while hiding their presence in the North, which means they never practiced or improved any of their yoki-releasing techniques like the flash sword. Thus, Clare's flash sword will be her OLD flash sword, I think.

[dee32]

Thus, Clare's flash sword will be her OLD flash sword, I think.

I think if Clare added yoki to the her flash sword now it will equal or be better than Irene's flash sword.

[Fenrir_valindri]

At the moment the Ghosts' ability to fight stealthed gives them a far greater advantage then empowering themselves with Yoki. I doubt there will be a "new" flash sword either, probably just one that is much closer (if not equal to) Irene's Flash Sword; which was far superior to Clare's.

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Yuma has shown that she is probably in the low single digit range, both Miria and Clare have shown they are probably at or above Galatea's level. (I really am hesistant to put them at #1 level till we see a #1 fight against them, or against an opponent they have encountered; aka Riful)

It seems that Clare still suffers from poor Stamina according to Cynthia; which makes her a powerful fighter that can't fight for as long as the other Ghosts (except Yuma most likely)

We really haven't seen Tabitha, Helen, or Deneve do anything yet to indicate their power levels, but we can easily assume they are above Yuma's level, and below Miria/Clare's level. It is hard to say if Cynthia is above or below Helen/Deneve's level at the moment though, she was technically higher ranked then both of them, but they are partially-awakened. :eyespin:

That said; the Organization only has 7 warriors that could potentially fight on par with the Ghost. Alicia/Beth, Audrey, Rachel, #7, #8 , and #9.

Only Alicia/Beth could match Clare/Miria, and the rest will have to line up, #9 being paired against Yuma.

Unless the Organization has some hidden weapons, or the strength of Alicia/Beth is quite a bit more then many of us are guessing; they are in pretty deep trouble.

[Negativedark]

Well lets not forget that not all Number 1's are equal. Teresea was exceptional, and Alicia is a special project. I'm not too sure how they'd fare against say Rosemary before her awakening. But there is also another factor to keep in mind. Right now the Ghosts are a far better team than anything the Org has. If the top seven excluding the twins were to fight the ghosts, the ghosts would easily win even in number 1 is stronger than Miria and Claire. Because the ghosts are a well honed team. Just look at what they did to Agatha, and awakened number 2.

[Newhope]

I wouldn't be surprised if Miria was number one material now, even before the slasher arc and her partially-awakening she was said to be as strong as a number 1 when fighting in a group.

[Weils]

Hey, I have just translated the Chinese raw and written a detailed account of the chapter. Enjoy. :)


Claymore SCENE 83: Mark of Reunion

Clare, Cynthia and Yuma are travelling through the forest. Yuma is last in line. Clare asks Yuma if there's any problem (in travelling). Yuma tells Clare not to worry, she could still catch up with them with her current speed. Cynthia announces to them that they have reached the western land, Lodorick(?).

Upon Cynthia's announcement, Clare quizzes about the supposed border of the western land. She asks Cynthia if the earlier places they have thus far been to does not belong to the west. Cynthia confirms this, and explains that the Organization devided the continent into 4 parts for easier management, perhaps due to the Abyssal Ones. She then takes out her claymore and carves lines on the ground. She says that this continent, which the inhabitants think is the only continent (in the world), is shaped something like this. She craves out roughly cross-shaped object which signifies the continent.

Cynthia explains that the Organization thought of a way to divide up the land, according to the position of the Abyssal Ones and its own location. She draws out an "X" in the middle of the cross. However, she continues, normally the consideration of method to divide the land is like this. She wipes off the "X" and instead draws a square in the middle of the cross. The land in the square is known as Toluz, Rabona is also included within.

The Organization's No.1, 2 and 3 are assigned within the central square so that they are able to get to the 4 corners of the land easily if there's an urgent situation in those places. Then the rest of the numbers undergo consideration for their strength and weaknesses, with the later numbers assigned close to the central square. But however, Cynthia says, the speed of her legs and endurance are probably above Clare's, and Yuma won't be able to shake her off if she is pursued by her. Yuma gives a "Eh?", while Clare remains silent.

Cynthia says that if she ever loses sight of Clare, she will still be able to follow her tracks and catch up to her with Yuma. Personality-wise, Clare often works alone, so Cynthia has to keep track of each other's actions. That is what Miria strictly ordered her to do. However Cynthia says not to worry if Clare finds Raki, if she wants to stay with Raki, it's no problem for the rest of them and they will leave. Upon hearing this, Clare mutters that Miria has given her a very problematic companion (Cynthia).

Later, Clare, Cynthia and Yuma plant their claymores in the ground and form a triangle, taking yoki readings. From where they are, Cynthia senses 2 awakened beings within 16 miles west from their location. Clare asks her to read if both awakened beings' yoki are close to each other. Cynthia mentions that although there are no nearby Claymores, but if the 3 of them used yoki-suppressing medicine then they would have no idea of knowing in the first place. If there are really Claymores around, they would also not be able to sense them either.

Clare decides to check up on the nearest village for news, but Cynthia tells her that there is a very strong yoki residing there, which may most likely be an Awakened Being. Yuma is somewhat stunned by this, while Clare understands, and asks Cynthia if she wants to stop her from going. But Cynthia smiles, says she won't stop her and they will go. If they keep avoiding towns or villages because of Awakened Beings, then they will have no way to look for Raki. Yuma is amazed by Cynthia's reply. Cynthia says that if she's with them, there's always a way.

In the town nearby, 3 Claymores appear. The villagers are stunned that there are 3 of them in town, and why they are here. Clare, Cynthia and Yuma wear hooded cloaks among the townspeople. Clare says how Cynthia was right about this kind of situation, and the yoki-suppressants they are using. She wonders why there are only 3 of them if they are really on an Awakened Being hunt. Cynthia says that those 3 Claymores have not sensed the existance of the Awakened Being yet. Yuma interrupts Clare's thoughts and points out 2 MIBs that have just arrived. The other 2 are stunned that 2 MIBs are here, which is rare. Even rarer that they are together with the 3 Claymores.

One of the MIBs speaks. "Any clues?" One of the 3 Claymores, with short hair says, "None, this town has nothing..." "Bastards." the first MIB interrupts. "Collecting information was too late. Use all possible methods to seal off any leaks about this failure." He continues,"By calculation, should be imprisoned by now..."

Clare wonders what they were saying about information and imprisonment, and who they were looking for. Cynthia tells Clare that by the number of warriors gathered here, they must be hunting one of their own. She concludes by saying that the AB has started taking action now.

One of the "townspeople" heads grows in size, until it bursts open to reveal multiple pincers. The people are shocked, and the 3 Claymores and the 2 MIBs notice, albeit a bit too late. The AB attacks them, but Clare and Cynthia stops her. One of the Claymores demands to know who they are, drawing their swords. Clare shouts to Yuma it is up to her. Yuma appears above 2 Claymores, striking down. She then does a swinging kick on the two, rendering them out of the fight at once, cradling themselves. "You..." the remaining Claymore (the one who spoke to the MIB) shouts. She matches swords with Yuma, but is shocked. "This is not possible," she says. "She fights even with me who is No. 14..." Before she can say anything more, Yuma flips her sword and whacks her in the stomach, dropping her.

"The Claymores are..." the first MIB says in disbelief, "Unless it's..." Yuma whacks the back of the MIBs' heads before the first MIB can finish his sentence. They both drop unconscious on the ground. The fight finished at her side, Yuma takes off her hood and breathes a sigh of relief. She looks back at the last Claymore she dropped. "That is No. 14?" she says, "The sword looked like it stopped." Holding her sword arm up, she says, "I didn't notice that I also became strong...Then it means, my other companions who haven't felt it yet...how strong are they now?"

Meanwhile, Clare cuts off one of the AB's pincers. Before the enraged AB can react, Clare appears in front of her again and cuts off one of her legs. Before the AB can attack, Clare avoids her easily. The AB asks who the hell they are. Yuma joins up with Clare and Cynthia and apologises that she was slow in coming back here, and the Claymores and MIBs have all lost consciousness. Upon hearing Yuma's report, Clare and Cynthia take off their cloaks, having no need to disguise themselves now. "Finally we can do things freely," Clare says, "Now we can end you in one go."

The AB is stunned by this, and breaks off half of her body, with the upper half sprouting wings and taking to the skies, intending to escape. Clare shouts for Yuma. Yuma draws back her arm, putting strength in it, and throws her sword at the AB. The sword severs her wings and she starts to drop back down. Before the AB can reach the ground, Clare and Cynthia leap over to her and cut her up in multiple strokes, with Clare grabbing back Yuma's sword. The fight ended, Clare returns her sword, with Yuma apologising.

The townspeople watch all of this in amazement and they start talking. "cut the monster to pieces?" "No, just before that, the Claymores were defeated..." "What the hell, these people should be the monsters..." "This is scary, should we escape?"

Clare asks if there are any casualties. Cynthia reports only the MIBs and Claymores were put out of action. Clare says, "Really..." but Cynthia says, "But this is wonderful! No one was hurt and the incident solved. Just this point and the town has more meaning now." Clare and Yuma hear Cynthia's cheerful outburst, and Clare gives a small smile. Clare says that she now knows why Cynthia was sent to fight in the battle at the north. Cynthia asks, "Eh?" Clare says, "Nothing, I was just talking to myself..."

Standing over the unconscious bodies of the Claymores, Clare wonders why they are here with their yokis supressed. If they were on the move while taking the suppressants, Clare thinks, are they trying to avoid the attention of yoma and ABs? "Want me to tell you?" a man says. "Old friend."

Clare turns around and sees the guy. "You..." she angrily says. "You are also in this town?" "7 years," the man says, revealed to be Rubel, "And you're still full of life, Clare."

To be continued...

[dantyx]

the ghosts would easily win even in number 1 is stronger than Miria and Claire. Because the ghosts are a well honed team. Just look at what they did to Agatha, and awakened number 2

yes..not like the team in the Northern campaign the very stronge and Organized

[yezhanquan]

Now, if Yagi decides to reveal that Rubel's appearance is but a disguise, and actually he's very handsome (ala Isley), I'll LOL.

But, more seriously, if Clare still hasn't learnt how to keep her cool after 7 years, I think something's not quite right.

[dee32]

Well lets not forget that not all Number 1's are equal. Teresea was exceptional, and Alicia is a special project. I'm not too sure how they'd fare against say Rosemary before her awakening. But there is also another factor to keep in mind. Right now the Ghosts are a far better team than anything the Org has. If the top seven excluding the twins were to fight the ghosts, the ghosts would easily win even in number 1 is stronger than Miria and Claire. Because the ghosts are a well honed team. Just look at what they did to Agatha, and awakened number 2.

If ghosts fought the Org's 3-10 they would easily win the fight, but against an awaken Alica that would be a hard and very dangerous fight remember an awaken Alicia took on about 11 awaken beings by herself. The key for that fight for the ghosts against Alicia would be to use there teamwork and taking out Beth before Alicia has the chance to awaken. The ghost may win the fight against Alicia but at the cost of one of there lives. Another key to beating Alicia is Galatea seeing she is the only claymore to actually see Alicia fight and the only one to know the secret to defeat Alicia is to take out Beth first.

[dantyx]

more seriously, if Clare still hasn't learnt how to keep her cool after 7 years, I think something's not quite right

just one flash sword and Rubel will be died that all..................^_^

[yezhanquan]

just one flash sword and Rubel will be died that all..................^_^

If Rubel goes down that easily, I WILL dump Claymore. I expect him to be a big player.

In some series, you have the "cockroach" character: someone who never seems to die/go away. I hope Rubel will be as interesting as Akabane Kuroudou from Getbackers or Tyki Miki from DGrayman.

[Newhope]

more seriously, if Clare still hasn't learnt how to keep her cool after 7 years, I think something's not quite right

I think she has or least she's showing more restraint in her actions conpaired to pre-time skip.

[dee32]

This chapter has changed by view of Yuma. Now I see she is just as bad-a**ed as the other ghosts.

[yezhanquan]

Yuma may or may not have a death flag. I hope not, but Yagi has given us mind-screws before.

[PGilis]

She is a minor character who is becoming very likable... so she is fated to die.

Just EVERY minor and likable character (Jean, Flora, Veronica, even Undine) in the Claymore world died! :(

[Korinov]

I just arrived and saw the spoilers and pics. Yuma eats the tape!

[Ryuken]

Well, we all knew that there was more to her than meets the eye. And you know what, she had just proved it to everyone.

[King Lycan]

She is a minor character who is becoming very likable... so she is fated to die.

Just EVERY minor and likable character (Jean, Flora, Veronica, even Undine) in the Claymore world died! :(

And it hurts a lot when they die >_>

[Ryuken]

And it hurts a lot when they die >_>

Yes it does. @hell should probably know this more than anyone.:)

[tenken627]

Hey, I have just translated the Chinese raw and written a detailed account of the chapter. Enjoy. :)


Claymore SCENE 83: Mark of Reunion

Clare, Cynthia and Yuma are travelling through the forest. Yuma is last in line. Clare asks Yuma if there's any problem (in travelling). Yuma tells Clare not to worry, she could still catch up with them with her current speed. Cynthia announces to them that they have reached the eastern land, Lodorick(?).

Upon Cynthia's announcement, Clare quizzes about the supposed border of the eastern land. She asks Cynthia if the earlier places they have thus far been to does not belong to the east. Cynthia confirms this, and explains that the Organization devided the continent into 4 parts for easier management, perhaps due to the Abyssal Ones. She then takes out her claymore and carves lines on the ground. She says that this continent, which the inhabitants think is the only continent (in the world), is shaped something like this. She craves out roughly cross-shaped object which signifies the continent.

Cynthia explains that the Organization thought of a way to divide up the land, according to the position of the Abyssal Ones and its own location. She draws out an "X" in the middle of the cross. However, she continues, normally the consideration of method to divide the land is like this. She wipes off the "X" and instead draws a square in the middle of the cross. The land in the square is known as Toluz, Rabona is also included within.

The Organization's No.1, 2 and 3 are assigned within the central square so that they are able to get to the 4 corners of the land easily if there's an urgent situation in those places. Then the rest of the numbers undergo consideration for their strength and weaknesses, with the later numbers assigned close to the central square. But however, Cynthia says, the speed of her legs and endurance are probably above Clare's, and Yuma won't be able to shake her off if she is pursued by her. Yuma gives a "Eh?", while Clare remains silent.

Cynthia says that if she ever loses sight of Clare, she will still be able to follow her tracks and catch up to her with Yuma. Personality-wise, Clare often works alone, so Cynthia has to keep track of each other's actions. That is what Miria strictly ordered her to do. However Cynthia says not to worry if Clare finds Raki, if she wants to stay with Raki, it's no problem for the rest of them and they will leave. Upon hearing this, Clare mutters that Miria has given her a very problematic companion (Cynthia).

Later, Clare, Cynthia and Yuma plant their claymores in the ground and form a triangle, taking yoki readings. From where they are, Cynthia senses 2 awakened beings within 16 miles east from their location. Clare asks her to read if both awakened beings' yoki are close to each other. Cynthia mentions that although there are no nearby Claymores, but if the 3 of them used yoki-suppressing medicine then they would have no idea of knowing in the first place. If there are really Claymores around, they would also not be able to sense them either.

Clare decides to check up on the nearest village for news, but Cynthia tells her that there is a very strong yoki residing there, which may most likely be an Awakened Being. Yuma is somewhat stunned by this, while Clare understands, and asks Cynthia if she wants to stop her from going. But Cynthia smiles, says she won't stop her and they will go. If they keep avoiding towns or villages because of Awakened Beings, then they will have no way to look for Raki. Yuma is amazed by Cynthia's reply. Cynthia says that if she's with them, there's always a way.

In the town nearby, 3 Claymores appear. The villagers are stunned that there are 3 of them in town, and why they are here. Clare, Cynthia and Yuma wear hooded cloaks among the townspeople. Clare says how Cynthia was right about this kind of situation, and the yoki-suppressants they are using. She wonders why there are only 3 of them if they are really on an Awakened Being hunt. Cynthia says that those 3 Claymores have not sensed the existance of the Awakened Being yet. Yuma interrupts Clare's thoughts and points out 2 MIBs that have just arrived. The other 2 are stunned that 2 MIBs are here, which is rare. Even rarer that they are together with the 3 Claymores.

One of the MIBs speaks. "Any clues?" One of the 3 Claymores, with short hair says, "None, this town has nothing..." "Bastards." the first MIB interrupts. "Collecting information was too late. Use all possible methods to seal off any leaks about this failure." He continues,"By calculation, should be imprisoned by now..."

Clare wonders what they were saying about information and imprisonment, and who they were looking for. Cynthia tells Clare that by the number of warriors gathered here, they must be hunting one of their own. She concludes by saying that the AB has started taking action now.

One of the "townspeople" heads grows in size, until it bursts open to reveal multiple pincers. The people are shocked, and the 3 Claymores and the 2 MIBs notice, albeit a bit too late. The AB attacks them, but Clare and Cynthia stops her. One of the Claymores demands to know who they are, drawing their swords. Clare shouts to Yuma it is up to her. Yuma appears above 2 Claymores, striking down. She then does a swinging kick on the two, rendering them out of the fight at once, cradling themselves. "You..." the remaining Claymore (the one who spoke to the MIB) shouts. She matches swords with Yuma, but is shocked. "This is not possible," she says. "She fights even with me who is No. 14..." Before she can say anything more, Yuma flips her sword and whacks her in the stomach, dropping her.

"The Claymores are..." the first MIB says in disbelief, "Unless it's..." Yuma whacks the back of the MIBs' heads before the first MIB can finish his sentence. They both drop unconscious on the ground. The fight finished at her side, Yuma takes off her hood and breathes a sigh of relief. She looks back at the last Claymore she dropped. "That is No. 14?" she says, "The sword looked like it stopped." Holding her sword arm up, she says, "I didn't notice that I also became strong...Then it means, my other companions who haven't felt it yet...how strong are they now?"

Meanwhile, Clare cuts off one of the AB's pincers. Before the enraged AB can react, Clare appears in front of her again and cuts off one of her legs. Before the AB can attack, Clare avoids her easily. The AB asks who the hell they are. Yuma joins up with Clare and Cynthia and apologises that she was slow in coming back here, and the Claymores and MIBs have all lost consciousness. Upon hearing Yuma's report, Clare and Cynthia take off their cloaks, having no need to disguise themselves now. "Finally we can do things freely," Clare says, "Now we can end you in one go."

The AB is stunned by this, and breaks off half of her body, with the upper half sprouting wings and taking to the skies, intending to escape. Clare shouts for Yuma. Yuma draws back her arm, putting strength in it, and throws her sword at the AB. The sword severs her wings and she starts to drop back down. Before the AB can reach the ground, Clare and Cynthia leap over to her and cut her up in multiple strokes, with Clare grabbing back Yuma's sword. The fight ended, Clare returns her sword, with Yuma apologising.

The townspeople watch all of this in amazement and they start talking. "cut the monster to pieces?" "No, just before that, the Claymores were defeated..." "What the hell, these people should be the monsters..." "This is scary, should we escape?"

Clare asks if there are any casualties. Cynthia reports only the MIBs and Claymores were put out of action. Clare says, "Really..." but Cynthia says, "But this is wonderful! No one was hurt and the incident solved. Just this point and the town has more meaning now." Clare and Yuma hear Cynthia's cheerful outburst, and Clare gives a small smile. Clare says that she now knows why Cynthia was sent to fight in the battle at the north. Cynthia asks, "Eh?" Clare says, "Nothing, I was just talking to myself..."

Standing over the unconscious bodies of the Claymores, Clare wonders why they are here with their yokis supressed. If they were on the move while taking the suppressants, Clare thinks, are they trying to avoid the attention of yoma and ABs? "Want me to tell you?" a man says. "Old friend."

Clare turns around and sees the guy. "You..." she angrily says. "You are also in this town?" "7 years," the man says, revealed to be Rubel, "And you're still full of life, Clare."

To be continued...

Thanks for translating Weils.

I think you meant "West" (Lodorick?) and not "East" in the first paragraph?

And interesting to see that Claymores Ranked #1-3 are assigned to the central square (Toluz? where Rabona is) and rank #4-47 are assigned to areas outside the central square but close to it, instead of the other way around?

[Tempest35]

She is a minor character who is becoming very likable... so she is fated to die.

Just EVERY minor and likable character (Jean, Flora, Veronica, even Undine) in the Claymore world died! :(

Stop jinxing Yuma! :frustrated:

[etothex]

Hey, I have just translated the Chinese raw and written a detailed account of the chapter. Enjoy. :)


Claymore SCENE 83: Mark of Reunion

Clare, Cynthia and Yuma are travelling through the forest. Yuma is last in line. Clare asks Yuma if there's any problem (in travelling). Yuma tells Clare not to worry, she could still catch up with them with her current speed. Cynthia announces to them that they have reached the eastern land, Lodorick(?).

Upon Cynthia's announcement, Clare quizzes about the supposed border of the eastern land. She asks Cynthia if the earlier places they have thus far been to does not belong to the east. Cynthia confirms this, and explains that the Organization devided the continent into 4 parts for easier management, perhaps due to the Abyssal Ones. She then takes out her claymore and carves lines on the ground. She says that this continent, which the inhabitants think is the only continent (in the world), is shaped something like this. She craves out roughly cross-shaped object which signifies the continent.

Cynthia explains that the Organization thought of a way to divide up the land, according to the position of the Abyssal Ones and its own location. She draws out an "X" in the middle of the cross. However, she continues, normally the consideration of method to divide the land is like this. She wipes off the "X" and instead draws a square in the middle of the cross. The land in the square is known as Toluz, Rabona is also included within.

The Organization's No.1, 2 and 3 are assigned within the central square so that they are able to get to the 4 corners of the land easily if there's an urgent situation in those places. Then the rest of the numbers undergo consideration for their strength and weaknesses, with the later numbers assigned close to the central square. But however, Cynthia says, the speed of her legs and endurance are probably above Clare's, and Yuma won't be able to shake her off if she is pursued by her. Yuma gives a "Eh?", while Clare remains silent.

Cynthia says that if she ever loses sight of Clare, she will still be able to follow her tracks and catch up to her with Yuma. Personality-wise, Clare often works alone, so Cynthia has to keep track of each other's actions. That is what Miria strictly ordered her to do. However Cynthia says not to worry if Clare finds Raki, if she wants to stay with Raki, it's no problem for the rest of them and they will leave. Upon hearing this, Clare mutters that Miria has given her a very problematic companion (Cynthia).

Later, Clare, Cynthia and Yuma plant their claymores in the ground and form a triangle, taking yoki readings. From where they are, Cynthia senses 2 awakened beings within 16 miles east from their location. Clare asks her to read if both awakened beings' yoki are close to each other. Cynthia mentions that although there are no nearby Claymores, but if the 3 of them used yoki-suppressing medicine then they would have no idea of knowing in the first place. If there are really Claymores around, they would also not be able to sense them either.

Clare decides to check up on the nearest village for news, but Cynthia tells her that there is a very strong yoki residing there, which may most likely be an Awakened Being. Yuma is somewhat stunned by this, while Clare understands, and asks Cynthia if she wants to stop her from going. But Cynthia smiles, says she won't stop her and they will go. If they keep avoiding towns or villages because of Awakened Beings, then they will have no way to look for Raki. Yuma is amazed by Cynthia's reply. Cynthia says that if she's with them, there's always a way.

In the town nearby, 3 Claymores appear. The villagers are stunned that there are 3 of them in town, and why they are here. Clare, Cynthia and Yuma wear hooded cloaks among the townspeople. Clare says how Cynthia was right about this kind of situation, and the yoki-suppressants they are using. She wonders why there are only 3 of them if they are really on an Awakened Being hunt. Cynthia says that those 3 Claymores have not sensed the existance of the Awakened Being yet. Yuma interrupts Clare's thoughts and points out 2 MIBs that have just arrived. The other 2 are stunned that 2 MIBs are here, which is rare. Even rarer that they are together with the 3 Claymores.

One of the MIBs speaks. "Any clues?" One of the 3 Claymores, with short hair says, "None, this town has nothing..." "Bastards." the first MIB interrupts. "Collecting information was too late. Use all possible methods to seal off any leaks about this failure." He continues,"By calculation, should be imprisoned by now..."

Clare wonders what they were saying about information and imprisonment, and who they were looking for. Cynthia tells Clare that by the number of warriors gathered here, they must be hunting one of their own. She concludes by saying that the AB has started taking action now.

One of the "townspeople" heads grows in size, until it bursts open to reveal multiple pincers. The people are shocked, and the 3 Claymores and the 2 MIBs notice, albeit a bit too late. The AB attacks them, but Clare and Cynthia stops her. One of the Claymores demands to know who they are, drawing their swords. Clare shouts to Yuma it is up to her. Yuma appears above 2 Claymores, striking down. She then does a swinging kick on the two, rendering them out of the fight at once, cradling themselves. "You..." the remaining Claymore (the one who spoke to the MIB) shouts. She matches swords with Yuma, but is shocked. "This is not possible," she says. "She fights even with me who is No. 14..." Before she can say anything more, Yuma flips her sword and whacks her in the stomach, dropping her.

"The Claymores are..." the first MIB says in disbelief, "Unless it's..." Yuma whacks the back of the MIBs' heads before the first MIB can finish his sentence. They both drop unconscious on the ground. The fight finished at her side, Yuma takes off her hood and breathes a sigh of relief. She looks back at the last Claymore she dropped. "That is No. 14?" she says, "The sword looked like it stopped." Holding her sword arm up, she says, "I didn't notice that I also became strong...Then it means, my other companions who haven't felt it yet...how strong are they now?"

Meanwhile, Clare cuts off one of the AB's pincers. Before the enraged AB can react, Clare appears in front of her again and cuts off one of her legs. Before the AB can attack, Clare avoids her easily. The AB asks who the hell they are. Yuma joins up with Clare and Cynthia and apologises that she was slow in coming back here, and the Claymores and MIBs have all lost consciousness. Upon hearing Yuma's report, Clare and Cynthia take off their cloaks, having no need to disguise themselves now. "Finally we can do things freely," Clare says, "Now we can end you in one go."

The AB is stunned by this, and breaks off half of her body, with the upper half sprouting wings and taking to the skies, intending to escape. Clare shouts for Yuma. Yuma draws back her arm, putting strength in it, and throws her sword at the AB. The sword severs her wings and she starts to drop back down. Before the AB can reach the ground, Clare and Cynthia leap over to her and cut her up in multiple strokes, with Clare grabbing back Yuma's sword. The fight ended, Clare returns her sword, with Yuma apologising.

The townspeople watch all of this in amazement and they start talking. "cut the monster to pieces?" "No, just before that, the Claymores were defeated..." "What the hell, these people should be the monsters..." "This is scary, should we escape?"

Clare asks if there are any casualties. Cynthia reports only the MIBs and Claymores were put out of action. Clare says, "Really..." but Cynthia says, "But this is wonderful! No one was hurt and the incident solved. Just this point and the town has more meaning now." Clare and Yuma hear Cynthia's cheerful outburst, and Clare gives a small smile. Clare says that she now knows why Cynthia was sent to fight in the battle at the north. Cynthia asks, "Eh?" Clare says, "Nothing, I was just talking to myself..."

Standing over the unconscious bodies of the Claymores, Clare wonders why they are here with their yokis supressed. If they were on the move while taking the suppressants, Clare thinks, are they trying to avoid the attention of yoma and ABs? "Want me to tell you?" a man says. "Old friend."

Clare turns around and sees the guy. "You..." she angrily says. "You are also in this town?" "7 years," the man says, revealed to be Rubel, "And you're still full of life, Clare."

To be continued...

much obliged

[servidor]

Hey, I have just translated the Chinese raw and written a detailed account of the chapter. Enjoy. :)


Claymore SCENE 83: Mark of Reunion
Clare asks if there are any casualties. Cynthia reports only the MIBs and Claymores were put out of action. Clare says, "Really..." but Cynthia says, "But this is wonderful! No one was hurt and the incident solved. Just this point and the town has more meaning now." Clare and Yuma hear Cynthia's cheerful outburst, and Clare gives a small smile. Clare says that she now knows why Cynthia was sent to fight in the battle at the north. Cynthia asks, "Eh?" Clare says, "Nothing, I was just talking to myself..."

To be continued...

It is nice to see Yagi making Cynthia and Yuma more human and interesting, the downside of this is that if they die, it would be really hard for us. It is refreshingly to see that Cynthia despite a probally tragic past she is still able to be cheerful and maybe hope for the future. I wonder if she killed Youmas just to protect people instead killing them as a mercenary job.

[PGilis]

Stop jinxing Yuma! :frustrated:

But... but... it happened so many times! :upset:

Cinthia-chan too, is at risk here... specially walking alongside Clare.

......... :twitch:

Anooo... why again Miria chose these two to follow Clare? Maybe they did something wrong to her and that's the punishment? :heh:

[chibamonster]

Unlike Teresa, Cynthia may not have known what doing free work meant for towns. Someone so willing to do service might not make threats and demands against impoverished villages. Or she just did not report what she does. And Rubel is about to drop some information bombs in the next chapter.

Clare: Give me one reason not to kill you! *draws sword*
Rubel: I granted your wish and let you into the organization with Teresa as your source so you could get revenge against Priscilla.
Clare: ... dammit... *sheaths sword*
Yuma: All right Bi-yatch! *Grabs Rubel by the collar and starts shaking him* Yuma's asking questions and you better answer them you *@!(@#*)@#)$*( monkey ()!@@*()% a bananna with sunglasses! RAWR!!!
Clare: Yuma seems different with confidence.
Cynthia: Don't be so mean to that old man! *pries Yuma off of Rubel* Are you all right? Did she hurt your neck? Do you need a walking stick? Can I get you a warm glass of milk?
Rubel: No need for the good cop bad cop act ladies! I left the organization for my own reasons and will tell you anything you want to know.
Clare: They aren't acting...
Yuma: I have ways of making you talk! I am Yuma just-friggen-took-out-3-Claymores-2-MIB's-and-an-AB Master Chief!!! DON'T YOU FORGET IT!
Cynthia: I think I have some candy. Would you like some candy?
Clare: *sigh*... first things first; why did you leave the organization?
Rubel: Ooh, direct question! Right at the heart. I thought you'd go for my info about Raki or Priscilla first, which I am dying to tell you about, but *giggle*... Well, I can't tell you everything, but ... umm... have you seen Galatea around by chance? She forgot these when she ran away... *holds up skanky lingerie*
Clare: Oh for the love of...
Rubel: Which reminds me, how is your chest doing? I think it is time for another inspection. I mean 7 years is a long time... :cool:

[SagaraSouske]

Thanks for translating Weils.

I think you meant "West" (Lodorick?) and not "East" in the first paragraph?

And interesting to see that Claymores Ranked #1-3 are assigned to the central square (Toluz? where Rabona is) and rank #4-47 are assigned to areas outside the central square but close to it, instead of the other way around?

It is West.

Most of the lower numbers are assigned in middle area besides 1, 2, 3.
4 - mid range are likely spread out in the wing areas.

[Negativedark]

Well I figure that if we think that Yuma will live that'll jinx it, and by worrying she'll die it'll be avoided. Sorta like how you don't wish an actor luck with a play, but rather tell them to go break a leg.

[Lich_king]

Anybody knows where can I read English translated chapter 83.... i looked at 4 different manga readers.....and nothin'

[Fenrir_valindri]

If ghosts fought the Org's 3-10 they would easily win the fight, but against an awaken Alica that would be a hard and very dangerous fight remember an awaken Alicia took on about 11 awaken beings by herself. The key for that fight for the ghosts against Alicia would be to use there teamwork and taking out Beth before Alicia has the chance to awaken. The ghost may win the fight against Alicia but at the cost of one of there lives. Another key to beating Alicia is Galatea seeing she is the only claymore to actually see Alicia fight and the only one to know the secret to defeat Alicia is to take out Beth first.

Well the Organization doesn't have #4, and #6 anymore, so the Ghosts would have a natural advantage in that fight.

I was referring to Alicia/Beth fighting as normal warriors, I doubt those two are slouches in a non-awakened form, as obviously had some power before the experiment was complete. (Alicia's comparison of her power with Riful)

Alicia and Beth fighting in their normal forms would be a serious problem, as their natural ability would be extremely high. Even if the Organization was incorrect about Teresa's strength, saying that Alicia is stronger then she was (even if mistaken) is quite telling for her power, considering the last person they believed to potentially be stronger then Teresa was Priscilla.

In the awakened form, taking out Beth wouldn't be the correct answer either; as killing Beth just causes Alicia to permanently Awaken, not revert to her original form; which is just big trouble for everyone.

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It seems that Yuma thinks that the other Ghosts haven't quite realized their power level yet, I wonder if that is true? It would be quite interesting for them to engage the top Claymores and find how easily/well-matched they are with the high-ranking single digits.

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Got to admit, I love Clare's deduction of why Cynthia was sent north, being too nice just seems to fit Cynthia. :heh:

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Need moar Rubel!!! :frustrated:

[[thousandmaster]]

What are the chances that the three claymores and two mibs were searching for Rubel? One of the mibs did say something about imprisonment. Maybe Rubel left the Org and was in hiding.

And since it's Rubel, the org also sent two mibs to convince him to return. The three claymores are just there for protection or a show of force if it doesn't go well.

The surpression pills I'm not so sure about...

[MalakTawus]

clarification: for "new flash-sword" i mean the same flash-sword with her improved ability to control Irene's arm and soon or later her real Yoki powers inherited by Teresa.....it will be unstoppable if you add the ability to foresee(ok i know it's not really foresee but you get what i mean....) the enemy's attacks.....

......well it will be unstoppable even without foresee now that i think about it......

[chibamonster]

Suppression pills would sure make sense if MiB's use them normally and Rubel stopped taking his. There is much more to be developed with the Youki suppressant pills. Why did the organization create them? How does it tie into their research to create AB's? Is there a more powerful version that can be used? I think the pills have yet a bigger part to play in the story, and if the goal of the organization is to stop an awakening maybe the pills are an experiment that didn't quite work out. Or did, but had drawbacks (like an inability to use an awakened form). Just an idea though. If Rubel is their target, which he seems to be, then maybe MiB's can sense youki... if they stop taking their pills. As we eventually have to know what the MiB's are themselves, this is a pretty good opportunity to get some more info. Just an idea though.

[Ancient Soul]

My theory is that The MiBs are after Ermita...former handler of Galatea&Miria.

Rubel don't seem to hide at all...i mean he was there and 2 MiBs and 3 claymores didn't know about him it seem.Most likely they asked questions around the town.Strange if no one told them about Rubel if they were seeking after him.

[Weils]

Thanks for translating Weils.

I think you meant "West" (Lodorick?) and not "East" in the first paragraph?

And interesting to see that Claymores Ranked #1-3 are assigned to the central square (Toluz? where Rabona is) and rank #4-47 are assigned to areas outside the central square but close to it, instead of the other way around?

Oops, my mistake. :D Will change it.

[Vinak]

I was under the impression that the Claymores were searching for Lune. They Probably know Riful is looking for a claymore that is gifted with youki manipulation from Audrey's report. so they probably sent a group out to "rescue" her. they need the Youki pills because Riful could easily detect them if they got too close to her.

They never found a trace of Lune so they assume she's been imprisoned by Riful already and the mission is a failure.

[tenken627]

Yeah, I don't think the MiBs and Claymores were searching for Rubel.

From various translations I've seen, one of the MiBs uses the word captured or imprisoned. As in, "It/He/Her has been captured/imprisoned by now."

Why would they think Rubel has been captured?

[PGilis]

If they're after Renee/Lune, that means the Org is low of womanpower right now. They can't affort to lose another eye.

Just something i thought... Cinthia said she could find Clare even if they got separated. Apparently, she was not refering to sense her youki, after all, all the Fab-7 can hide their youki.

And considerating her incredible knowledge about geography (she could say precisely where they are) i'd say not only youki healing, probably she is good at tracing, localization and follow footsteps too... in other words, she can find anyone without depending in youki sensing. A good talent, considerating not only the Fab-7, but many other warriors can hide their youki. :)

[khryoleoz]

Or, Clare being the wild one can't help but leave a trail. It seems that Clare figured out why Miria had Cindy tag along, which is to keep morale up between the other two depressives.

[etothex]

In the awakened form, taking out Beth wouldn't be the correct answer either; as killing Beth just causes Alicia to permanently Awaken, not revert to her original form; which is just big trouble for everyone.


Well, actually that could be considered a viable option. Beth holds onto Alicia's soul, allowing for Alicia to choose her targets, ie attack only ABs and such. Killing Beth would make Alicia go wild. She wouldn't focus on the ghosts per se then, but attack anything at random.

Now, we know the ghosts don't aim to kill off the present claymores; we're not even sure if they plan to kill all the MiBs, but worse come to worst, it could be an option. Have Alicia go wild; take care of their primary objectives, and wait for Alicia to run out of energy, and deal with her. As it stands, Alicia/Beth are too big an obstacle, and they might not be able to get by them w/o sacrifices.

[Tempest35]

Miria would have to leave some of the MiBs alive so she/they could learn how they make Claymores in the first place along with learning all the other 'dirty little secrests' of the Org.

And when I think of it, Yuma took out a #14 easily....and Cynthia's the former #14 herself. She has to be thinking, "Was I really that weak before?" :D

While I'm not trying to downplay Yuma's stellar performance, we know that most ranks below #5 are 'expendable' to the Org and because of Pieta, the Org lost a good many well-rounded and seasoned vets. I dare say that the Org's current line-up is severely lacking in comparison to their predecessor generations.

[ggpr]

Temptest...expendable.

They are all considered expendable and they aren't supposed to live long anyways (Thats when they question the org and become a nuisance).

Think of it this way, who was in the org in Terressa's time that was there in Clares time. Even though they appear to be immortal, they usually either turn (like Clares freind) or get killed (like Jean).

ps. Rafael was an exception.

[Awakened]

If they are looking for Renee, why use low lvl Claymore (#14 might have been the high rank of the group). If they thought Renee was in trouble, how could 3 average and 2 mibs help her? She is #6, if they are after her or trying to rescue her they should at least have a single digit with them.

The only problem with my argument is the yoki pills.
They use yoki pills but they were walking in the open with their uniforms on. There is no point in suppressing your yoki if you are going to walk out in the open. Ruble refer to himself as a claymore when he was speaking to Clare, but we still don't know if he is one of them. Even if they were looking for him walking out in the open with uniforms still does not make much sense.

The only thing that I can think up that makes sense, is that they were investigating Renee disappearance. It would make sense to use pills to keep yoki sensors from detecting them from a long distance.

[Enara]

I think they were trying to find out were she is not save her.

[Yoko Takeo]

I think they were trying to find out were she is not save her.

Why would they do that and not try to save her? Sure, most ranks below five were expendible, but I would guess the org is pushing to preserve as many warriors as they can because they've been pushed to their very limit. Just look at Clarice. She looks even more of an inconplete Claymore than Clare is because of her hair, and Clare's supposed to be more human than anyone since she took the flesh of another warrior instead of an actual Yoma. To me, that shows just how much pressure the organization is under if its giving numbered ranks even to failed creations. Knowing that, I think it's obvious they would want to try and recover her. If they had a single digit, what you said would make more sense and that they're using Rene as a diversion to distract her from the ones who are really more of a threat, but the highest rank among the three was likely 14, so I doubt their plan is to attack Riful while she's focused on someone else.

[Newhope]

I don't think it's because there short on claymores but more likely it's because she's the eye, from earlier chapters involving Riful and Galatea it seems that claymores with that sort of skill are fairly rare which would make Renee a valuable resource which they can't really afford to lose,I think they would be happy to lose 3 average claymores if it ment they had a chance of recovering Renee.

[Yoko Takeo]

I don't think it's because there short on claymores but more likely it's because she's the eye, from earlier chapters involving Riful and Galatea it seems that claymores with that sort of skill are fairly rare which would make Renee a valuable resource which they can't really afford to lose,I think they would be happy to lose 3 average claymores if it ment they had a chance of recovering Renee.

That would make sense too, but I still think that Clarice is a strong sign the org is short on resources as well as warriors. Not to mention sending her to missions alone with Miata puts her in a position few low ranked Claymores would want, much less the lowest of the low. That shows me that even the lower ranked warriors above Clarice are in a position where there can be no compromises. They're not in a position to throw anyone away like in Pieta, especially higher ranked people like Rene.

[tenken627]

Why would they do that and not try to save her? Sure, most ranks below five were expendible, but I would guess the org is pushing to preserve as many warriors as they can because they've been pushed to their very limit. Just look at Clarice. She looks even more of an inconplete Claymore than Clare is because of her hair, and Clare's supposed to be more human than anyone since she took the flesh of another warrior instead of an actual Yoma. To me, that shows just how much pressure the organization is under if its giving numbered ranks even to failed creations. Knowing that, I think it's obvious they would want to try and recover her. If they had a single digit, what you said would make more sense and that they're using Rene as a diversion to distract her from the ones who are really more of a threat, but the highest rank among the three was likely 14, so I doubt their plan is to attack Riful while she's focused on someone else.

Sure, the Organization doesn't want to lose their Eye, and sure they will search for her.

But, how would they save her if they knew she was captured by Riful?

What do you want them to do?

They could send every single Claymore from Ranks #3 to #46, and they still wouldn't be able to stop Riful.

The only chance they would have would be to send Alicia + Beth, but that would be way too much risk for them at this point. So, they learn of this "failure" as they called it, cut their losses, and move on.

Notice that the MiBs say "Collecting information was too late. Use all possible methods to seal off any leaks about this failure." He continues,"By calculation, should be imprisoned by now..." (Weils' translation).

They just wanted to collect information. After calculating that whatever they are searching for has been captured/imprisoned, they just want to seal off any leaks about it. Nothing more. They didn't need single digit Claymores because it was never a rescue mission. Just an information gathering one, probably done by stopping at towns where Rene (or whoever they are looking for) could have gone.


I also agree that the Organization searches for Rene because she's their Eye, and not because it is short on manpower. I tend to think that if it was Nina who went missing, they wouldn't care as much.

[MalakTawus]

Using single digit warriors for a rescue mission is stupid.They know that if she was captured,Riful is behind it,so the only option for a rescue mission is to use Al+Beth, but it's very risky.....if they lose it's the end for the org(well,for what we know....).
They were using average warriors because they probably hoped to find her without fighting.

[Awakened]

Sure, the Organization doesn't want to lose their Eye, and sure they will search for her.

But, how would they save her if they knew she was captured by Riful?

What do you want them to do?

They could send every single Claymore from Ranks #3 to #46, and they still wouldn't be able to stop Riful.

The only chance they would have would be to send Alicia + Beth, but that would be way too much risk for them at this point. So, they learn of this "failure" as they called it, cut their losses, and move on.

Notice that the MiBs say "Collecting information was too late. Use all possible methods to seal off any leaks about this failure." He continues,"By calculation, should be imprisoned by now..." (Weils' translation).

They just wanted to collect information. After calculating that whatever they are searching for has been captured/imprisoned, they just want to seal off any leaks about it. Nothing more. They didn't need single digit Claymores because it was never a rescue mission. Just an information gathering one, probably done by stopping at towns where Rene (or whoever they are looking for) could have gone.


I also agree that the Organization searches for Rene because she's their Eye, and not because it is short on manpower. I tend to think that if it was Nina who went missing, they wouldn't care as much.

Where they planing to kill every one in the town?
how els would they stop the news from spreading?

[Negativedark]

Love the three ghosts idea of a low profile....

MIB making a report to the Org...

Mib- There were three cloaked figures, two of them engaged the Awakened, and the last knocked out our Claymore escort with ease before judo choping us.

Rimuto- At least we know there is no way they could be survivors from the north. Nope no way at all.

[Ancient Soul]

The problem is that we don't know much about the timeline.

If Renee was captured at the same time as Clare was moving west and meet the MiBs the fact that they were looking for Renee don't seem sure thing.Is a chance that they were looking for someone else.For example remember that The ORG just lost contact with Miata (who one day may surpass Alicia) & Clarice.I think that losing a claymore who if awaken can become a powerfull AB maybe near in pair with abyssals is more important than losing an eye.Miata & Clarice were both under pills and no one know were are they now.Also Miata can track anyone regardless of yoki so she is kind of an eye.

Riful move at warp speed.Between the moment she got hold of Renee and Renee awake in Riful's lair and saw Luciela\Rafaela must have a very short time.Even hours or mostly a day.Renee was in the way to The ORG in order to report about Raki & Priscilla.She was more like in a scout mission and since she was going back don't seem she skiped any assigned mission and failed to report about something in order to put the MiBs on the move so fast.Remember that for example Rubel reported three months after he first lost contact with Clare to the council (maybe because he didn't hurry).I expected to be some delay between Renee handler fail to contact at assigned places with Renee and report back to the council who would send a team to search for.At the same time The Ghosts spend maybe days on Rabona before Miria send them away.They move fast.Renee being captured and Clare moving west is happening either at the same time or in a spawn of days\few weeks.Also i don't see why the three claymores were under pills if the reason would be Riful.Riful already stated that she is looking for strong claymores.She got hold only of Audrey and Rachel ignoring the other two low-ranked when she meet their hunt team.The three 14+ ranks would not get attention from Riful but from AB who will think that they are on hunt and other claymores.

Also notice that the ONLY claymores from the new generation who were aware of Riful were Audrey and Renee.Rachel didn't recognised her.So the eye and nr.3 know her but nr. 5 didn't.We can assume that any other number low than 6 don't know about Riful.Why to inform nr 14 and two other low-ranked about Riful?If the ORG was woried about Riful they have would announced to all claymores to be carefull especially the single-digits.

In the past generation Galatea know about Riful.Jeane (nr. 9) didn't.Most likely Rafaela and Miria had knowledge about her.Informations about Abyssals seem that are one of The ORG secrets.

Even if they know about Renee getting cought by Riful that would not change a thing.Telling this to three low-ranked claymores would involve purging them in order to cover the news.

I don't see why Rubel would have any interest in Renee (eye) search.He didn't show any interest in Galatea (eye) in the past.

I hope than we don't have to wait months before Rubel told us what is this all about...we have Helen & Deneve , Riful & Renee , Raki & Priscilla having something to do at the same time.Oh, and Isley didn't show up yet :confused:

[Goofus Maximus]

... Well, I can't tell you everything, but ... umm... have you seen Galatea around by chance? She forgot these when she ran away... *holds up skanky lingerie*
...Rubel: Which reminds me, how is your chest doing? I think it is time for another inspection. I mean 7 years is a long time... :cool:

Hmmm. This is a "chest and drawers" skit, huh? * Goofus runs from the pun-police *

[Sleepy Speculator]

wow what another amazing chapter... i'd have to say though 3 claymores and 3 mib in one place, how odd. I don't think they were after Rubel, but the orgs painted itself into a corner with the loss of their eye, and they probably don't have many sensing types around.

Finally though a map... brilliant way to keep people from getting out by making the wings inhospitable, and thus concentrating the populace in the centre, makes me wonder if Clare's little stint with Ophelia in what appeared to be a ruined port town was another side effect of this...

[rukori]

Just read the scanlated chapter... whew another thrilling one:D. I don't believe that Rubel is Miria's informant though, too predictable for Yagi don't you think?

Goes back to hibernating...

[tenken627]

Where they planing to kill every one in the town?
how els would they stop the news from spreading?

I am not sure that they would destroy the whole town. The townsfolk wouldn't know about whatever the MiBs + Claymores were looking for. The MiBs wouldn't be asking random people. In fact, the townspeople in the chapter were surprised that there were Claymores in the town in the first place, leading us to believe that the Claymores haven't even talked to them before.

Plus, I wouldn't doubt that the Organization would wipe out the town if they wanted to. They are the ones who created yomas and destroyed towns with yomas before after all.



The problem is that we don't know much about the timeline.

If Renee was captured at the same time as Clare was moving west and meet the MiBs the fact that they were looking for Renee don't seem sure thing.

Well, there is no way to be positive that the MiBs are searching for Rene. They could be searching for Miata, like you say, Rubel, or someone else.

We only have two things to go by:

1) Whatever they are searching is of great importance to them. Cynthia, Clare and Yuma are stunned that two MiBs are together outside of headquarters, which leads us to believe that this is a rare case.

2) Whatever they are searching for has a high probability of being captured or imprisoned and not just dead.


Rene does fit both criteria, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it could be her. I tend to think that the probability of it being Rene is high, but not absolute. Nothing else that we know of so far in the story fits both 1) and 2) so well, unless we're blindsided by something totally unexpected.



I don't see why Rubel would have any interest in Renee (eye) search.He didn't show any interest in Galatea (eye) in the past.

Who knows why Rubel does the things that he does?

For all we know, Rubel could be spying on Rimuto's plans (if it was the Council who sent the 2 MiBs + 3 Claymores). We've speculated that there is some sort of conflict, possibly a power struggle, between Rubel and Rimuto.

Rubel is one mysterious cat. Which makes him one of the better characters in Claymore.

[irvinethearcher]

Remember, rubel didn't warn rimuto about the ghost despite he had doubts about the assumption that all warriors and miria had died in pieta. He thought that a woman like miria is not the type of warrior who goes on a suicide mission and sacrifices all her comrades who are under her comand without having a plan to survive.
Perhaps he knew that because he knew her a bit better than the others? This is straight forward thinking. Rubel is IMO the most probable candidat to be miria's informant and IMO if he is, he didn't do it only because he is such a mercifull human(?) being.

[rukori]

But Rubel proved anyway that he understands the warriors better than the other MiBs, like when he found Raphaela or predicted that Clare will pass the test back when she was a trainee.. All those facts makes him even more mysterious but still he never directly helped a warrior and sent Clare to suicide missions three times. I just cannot believe he is the informant, and if not him, since there is no one else who comes to mind it's high-likeli that wer'e gonna meet a new character...:D.

[irvinethearcher]

Here the conversation for the interested reader:
rubel: A negligible issue, huh?
As i remember correctly the leader of those team in those days was miria...
The woman called the "phantom", i can't imagine she would obediently follow orders and die in vain.
Why didn't he say something to rimuto? For him it was nearly clear that some of the warriors survived the north.

You're right rubel is probably the most cunning and wily fox of the mibs.

[MalakTawus]

Imo Rubel wants to aweken Claire.Why?I don't know.....obviously.

[tenken627]

Let's look at Rubel's perspective, shall we?

The girl that he's been personally shaping and molding since training and taken personal interest in is also the girl that came to him with an unusual request to become a Claymore with Teresa's flesh.

"Our ugly duckling is so cute... I wonder just what kinds of battles lie in store for her?" - Rubel

Almost every comment that Rubel makes to Clare seems to be carefully made, as if trying to understand Clare's mind. And not only has he tested her thoughts and emotional reactions, but also her physical prowess and her fighting ability. It is arguable that everything Clare has done pre-timeskip was set up by Rubel and could be considered very unusual for a rank #47.

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1) 5 Yomas at Stora Village (Chapter 2) - Unusual request in that this was a group of yomas and not just one. Most likely a group of yomas is nothing for a higher ranked Claymore, but it would be almost suicide for the weakest Claymore. This was when Clare was supposedly really, really weak, and the yomas themselves were surprised that Clare was alone.

2) Undercover Mission at the Holy City of Rabona (Chapter 5) - Very unusual and rare mission in itself, especially for the lowest ranking Claymore. Covert operation. This is where Clare first partially-Awakens.

3) AB Hunt at Toriro Village (Chapter 25) - Although it was just a group of yomas, and not an AB, it is still interesting to see that Rubel sent her on a hunt mission (4 Claymores, single digit leader: Miria, possible AB) when Helen says that rank #40's are never sent on a hunt, especially the lowest ranking Claymore.

4) Suicide (?) AB Hunt at Paburo Mountains (Chapter 25) - The infamous suicide AB hunt against the male AB where Miria deduced that they were sent to be killed or purged by the Organization. All 4 members (Miria, Helen, Deneve, Clare) have partially-Awakened before. Interesting to note that this is the second time in a row that Miria and Clare have been setup together. If Rubel is Miria's informant and also Clare's handler... interesting ...

It might be possible that Rimuto and the Council ordered the death of Miria, Clare, Helen and Deneve by sending them on this suicide mission, but could Rubel have other things in mind?

5) Yoma Missions at supposedly different towns (Chapter 31) - Not that unusual, but also interesting to see that a rank #47 is being sent alone to kill groups of yomas regularly now. Even Raki is amazed that Clare is able to kill 3 to 4 yomas together with ease. All of this for an experiment that Rimuto and the Council had deemed as a failure.

6) AB Hunt at Gonahl Ruins (Chapter 31) - Another AB hunt, but this one is highly unusual with only 2 Claymores, the other one being the crazed #4 Ophelia. This might have been another supposed purge, intended to get rid of Clare.

But, Rubel seemed to downplay Clare's strength to the Council. He never mentions Clare's partial-Awakening in order to defeat Ophelia and he pointed out that it was Rimuto and the Council who deemed Clare a failure as a Teresa clone. He said to the Council that Clare had almost 0% chance to kill Ophelia. He is interested in Rimuto's decision to send Galatea after Clare, and notes that this is a stalemate (?), possibly between himself and Rimuto.

Another interesting thing to note is that Raphaela was always acting on Rubel's orders. And she just happened to be in the area near Irene and Clare when Irene used her Flash Sword technique. It's not like Raphaela had to travel great distances to get to Irene, she arrived at Irene's cottage just after Clare left. No, Raphaela and possibly Rubel were close by at the time. Even if Rubel wasn't there, Raphaela should have reported that she killed Irene not too far from the Ruins of Gonahl. Raphaela also should have reported to Rubel that there was another girl there with Irene who left by the time she got there.

Rubel should have known about Irene and Clare before he made his report to the council (Rubel reported Clare's disappearance to the Council 3 months after it happened). But, Rubel never mentioned Irene at all to the Council.

This is another case where it is possible that Rimuto and the Council have ordered the death of Clare by sending her along with Ophelia alone (Rimuto knew that Clare was sent with Ophelia), but again Rubel had other things in mind.

7) Battle at the Town of Pieta (Chapter 50) - This was an obvious suicide mission by the Council. They wanted all the Claymores they sent to the North dead, and to delay Isley's attack. The Council must have known Clare was still alive if they believed Galatea was lying and sent Rubel after her. They wanted Clare specifically, and not Jean (Claymore ranked #9). Raphaela asks which one was Clare, as if a single digit Claymore was not really important.

By the time the Battle of Pieta ends, Rubel believes that Clare is dead. There was no way around it this time. But, unlike the other MiBs, he is also not surprised at Clarice's unconfirmed report of 7 survivors, especially since the leader at that time was Miria.

And other posters here have noted the fact that Miria had so many Yoki suppression pills. I don't know if they were supplied to Miria by someone (Rubel?) like others on this board have speculated, but it is something to keep an eye on.

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So that brings us up to the current events with Rubel. Imagine how he must feel as not only does he find Clare is alive, but she and her friends are incredibly powerful. Rubel is always smiling, but his smile seems to be even more genuine at the end of Chapter 83.

His ugly duckling that he has shaped and molded over the years is all grown up now.

[Newhope]

The end of the chapter really leads me to believe Rubel isen't the imforment, revealing himself like that is to much of a risk unless it's something extremely important.

[Awakened]

5) Yoma Missions at supposedly different towns (Chapter 31) - Not that unusual, but also interesting to see that a rank #47 is being sent alone to kill groups of yomas regularly now. Even Raki is amazed that Clare is able to kill 3 to 4 yomas together with ease. All of this for an experiment that Rimuto and the Council had deemed as a failure.

Clare was stonger than a #47, but she never got promoted. Ruble might have been hidding Clare from the council.

[Sleepy Speculator]

lol this is beginning to read like my theories... i give up

[tenken627]

lol this is beginning to read like my theories... i give up

Yeah lol.

It was a mixture of mine and other posters' speculations over the past half a year on Rubel and his workings with Clare and others.

I think it was you who first initially speculated that Miria's yoki pills at Pieta were given to her from Rubel? I don't remember.

[jayhellnice]

where can i find claymore Chapter 83 in eng

[Sleepy Speculator]

To tell the truth i can't remember if it was me, or maybe chiba or someone else, but the argument about how she got them made me speculate that the reason Clare was sent north was to get the yoki pills to Miria, Miria had the knowledge and Clare had the pills, i never did the math but she was eating 2 a day i think and dissappeared for about 3 months before being caught up that's around 180 pills consumed if she stayed continually dosed for the entirety of that time period, and she was only supposed to have them for a mission that lasted a few days (one week max lets say and 2 a day... = 14 or so pills). If the pills are tightly regulated then, you'd have to wonder how Clare got away with so many, and if they aren't you've gotta wonder why more Claymores don't dissappear when they get hold of them.

[PGilis]

Clare was stonger than a #47, but she never got promoted. Ruble might have been hidding Clare from the council.

No, she was really weak because her low youki level. She just got stronger after the Rabona's Arc, when she half-awaked. Before that she needed to use 10% of her youki to kill even plain youmas.

And not only Raki was surprised Clare got stronger. After the 1st suicide mission, Rubel was curious too about how much she changed. And i'm sure he was not talking about the fact she was trying to keep a "low profile".

Something tenken627 said make me think... if Rubel was really manipulating Raphaela and knew about Irene's hideout, maybe he know about what happen to her. But i he really did, the chances are he made Raphaela really kill her... after all, what's the use to a Claymore who can't fight or defend herself anymore?

And if has been manipulating Clare and the others all this time, for what? Maybe he's planning to take control of the Organization using the Fab-7?

[tenken627]

To tell the truth i can't remember if it was me, or maybe chiba or someone else, but the argument about how she got them made me speculate that the reason Clare was sent north was to get the yoki pills to Miria, Miria had the knowledge and Clare had the pills, i never did the math but she was eating 2 a day i think and dissappeared for about 3 months before being caught up that's around 180 pills consumed if she stayed continually dosed for the entirety of that time period, and she was only supposed to have them for a mission that lasted a few days (one week max lets say and 2 a day... = 14 or so pills). If the pills are tightly regulated then, you'd have to wonder how Clare got away with so many, and if they aren't you've gotta wonder why more Claymores don't dissappear when they get hold of them.

Was the instructions for yoki pills = 2 a day? I don't remember.

Hmmm, it doesn't seem like Clare had many yoki pills left by the time she arrived at the town next to Riful's hideout. The picture shows only 3 pills. There may be more, but she said herself that she didn't have much left. I don't know if Clare would have enough left to supply Miria with pills at Pieta.



EDIT:

Something tenken627 said make me think... if Rubel was really manipulating Raphaela and knew about Irene's hideout, maybe he know about what happen to her. But i he really did, the chances are he made Raphaela really kill her... after all, what's the use to a Claymore who can't fight or defend herself anymore?



I guess that one thing that may help the idea that Irene is alive is that Rubel sometimes acts on his own, and kept Irene alive without the Council or other MiBs knowing. I don't know if he would do that, or why, but we all know that Rubel is a sneaky bastard that does things for his own reasons :heh:.

Rubel is the only MiB we see that interacts with Raphaela. He was the one who brought Raphaela back to the Organization. It is very possible that Raphaela reports to Rubel, and Rubel is the one who hands her orders.

If Raphaela's direct orders were to kill Irene, that seems very suspicious because no one has known Irene's location for years and years. It's not like Raphaela was wandering around the whole continent looking for Irene, who nobody has seen probably for maybe a decade (from Teresa's death -> Clare's training -> Clare's early time as a Claymore -> Clare's AB Hunt with Ophelia).

Yet, Raphaela shows up at Irene's house right after Clare leaves, in an area where Rubel just sent Clare on an AB hunt with Ophelia. Coincidence? Luck?

Why didn't Rubel say that Irene might have been the one to possibly kill Ophelia. Her house was nearby after all, at the same time as Ophelia's death, and there was a girl (the missing girl Clare) with Irene right before Raphaela arrived. Yet, not a word about her. Strange.

I don't even know if the Council knows about Irene, and her "death". Maybe the reason why Rubel never mentions Irene is because he kept her alive? Or maybe Raphaela did kill Irene, but Rubel never mentions it because he's hiding information about Clare? *shrug*


And if has been manipulating Clare and the others all this time, for what? Maybe he's planning to take control of the Organization using the Fab-7?

People have come up with all kinds of crazy ideas for what is motivating Rubel. Some think that he wants control of the Organization. One that I've read that I liked is that Rubel really is a double agent working for the OEs and DoDs. :heh:

[PGilis]

Was the instructions for yoki pills = 2 a day? I don't remember.

Hmmm, it doesn't seem like Clare had many yoki pills left by the time she arrived at the town next to Riful's hideout. The picture shows only 3 pills. There may be more, but she said herself that she didn't have much left. I don't know if Clare would have enough left to supply Miria with pills at Pieta.

I think is more realistic to believe some of the Claymores must carry a few of them in the case they need to do some undercover mission, undetected.

In the Rabona's Arc Clare just received a small pack of pills because she was selected to do undercover mission cause Raki was with her. As far we can tell, that's not the only case where a Claymore need to hide her youki or silver eyes before a mission.

[dee32]

Let's look at Rubel's perspective, shall we?

The girl that he's been personally shaping and molding since training and taken personal interest in is also the girl that came to him with an unusual request to become a Claymore with Teresa's flesh.

"Our ugly duckling is so cute... I wonder just what kinds of battles lie in store for her?" - Rubel

Almost every comment that Rubel makes to Clare seems to be carefully made, as if trying to understand Clare's mind. And not only has he tested her thoughts and emotional reactions, but also her physical prowess and her fighting ability. It is arguable that everything Clare has done pre-timeskip was set up by Rubel and could be considered very unusual for a rank #47.


I have to agree with you what you are saying about Rubel. I think he shaping Clare to be the Teresa of her generation to what extent is unknown. Just maybe he's trying to create a stable AB with the power and skill of Teresa. I wonder will he use Clare and the rest of the ghosts as his own personal secret weapons. I really doubt for now that he'll report to the Org that in deed there were survivors of the war of the North. Seeing as he's the only MIB to see Clare, Cynthia, Yuma faces. Rubel pretty much knows who the 7G are since he already speculated that Mira was alive.

[tenken627]

I have to agree with you what you are saying about Rubel. I think he shaping Clare to be the Teresa of her generation. I wonder now that he knows Clare a live will he act as Clare's handler or use Clare and the rest of the ghost as his own personal secret weapons.

I don't know about Teresa level, Teresa is god-like :D.


But right now if Rubel wants to use Clare, he better reveal something big to her. She doesn't have to do anything he says anymore, she's not a Claymore now.

As far as we know right now, Clare has no obligation towards him. And she doesn't exactly look too happy to see him. :heh:



But, Rubel being Rubel, probably has something up his sleeves.

It may be that Rubel is Miria's informant or that he will tell her what his true intentions and plans are.

Or, Rubel may be willing to give Clare knowledge about herself (what Teresa's flesh truly has done to her body), or about her past (Clare, I am your father), or about Priscilla (Raki's in bed with a loli).

He needs to reveal something though. He's not the type to only say "Hi, nice day isn't it?"

[myshka]

He definitely has something up his sleeve, but I dont think he's the good guy here. He sent Clare up north, to a suicide mission, with full knowledge of it too. he's going ot turn the situation to his advantage.

[dee32]

I don't know about Teresa level, Teresa is god-like

Well maybe not Teresa's level but with a fraction of her power and abilities

[tenken627]

He definitely has something up his sleeve, but I dont think he's the good guy here. He sent Clare up north, to a suicide mission, with full knowledge of it too. he's going ot turn the situation to his advantage.

Yep, Rubel as a good guy just doesn't cut it. He's a much cooler character being manipulative, and out for his own reasons. His goals may be different from the Organization, but that doesn't mean he's a good guy.

I don't know, I like to think that he may have a soft spot for Clare, or at least more so than the other Claymores he's probably handled over the years. But if he needed her dead, he probably wouldn't hesitate to kill her.


Well maybe not Teresa's level but with a fraction of her power and abilities

Ya, was inside joke poked at all the 284372792437923445 posts on here dating back from 1935 until now about Teresa's godhood.

[dee32]

He definitely has something up his sleeve, but I dont think he's the good guy here. He sent Clare up north, to a suicide mission, with full knowledge of it too. he's going ot turn the situation to his advantage.

He really didn't have much of a choice in sending her north the Org probably ordered Rafaela to kill Clare for desertion. I mean it was that or face Rafaela's blade.

[etothex]

I'm thinking Rubel is the informant, but if not, he probably knows about Miria and her informant, might even have helped them out, and is just enjoying the game.

[germanturkey]

so just having read it, if even Yuma is that beast in comparison, i wonder how Miria and Clare will be.

and sadly, Cynthia's death flags are waving like crazy.. she shot way up in my books this chapter. she has that Flora aura going about her.

[MalakTawus]

Teresa was a goddess but it's quite obvious that sooner or later Claire will surpass Teresa's level.She can't accomplish nothing with just a fraction of Teresa's powers,she needs much more to fight with the awekened Priscilla and this is not speculation,this is OBVIOUS.
I think that Rubel knows that if Claire survives till the day she can use her latent powers, she will be unstoppable and imo he doesn't need a real reason to act this way,he just seems the type that wants to see his creation to be a success,just for his ego.(even if he could have other reasons...)

[clarakiss~]

It's quite obvious that sooner or later Clare will surpass Teresa's level.)

my thought exactly, i mean clare is the heroine of claymore, not teresa and yes, it'll take her some time to acomplish it but she will eventually.

on a different note;

when will raki starts hearing about clare's whereabouts? it's getting one-sided that only clare's the one getting information of him.

it woudn't surprise me if he suddenly turns up at rabona and meets miria first. ^^;

[tenken627]

where can i find claymore Chapter 83 in eng

Animesuki does not like to read requests for licensed material (although this board doesn't seem to be as heavily moderated as before). So any type of request for licensed material should be done in private messages.



As for the English scanlation of Chapter 83 -

The person that does the usual English scanlation that I read and prefer has not released anything yet. I believe that the Japanese raws have not yet been released yet for it, as I see nothing. The more credible scanlators usually wait until they have a copy of the raws before doing their work.


There is an English scanlation copy circulating around, but I'm not sure at the full accuracy of it since it seems like it's a scanlation taken from the Chinese scanlation and not the Japanese raw.

So it's Japanese raw -> translated into Chinese = Chinese scanlation -> translated yet again into English = English scanlation,

instead of a Japanese raw -> translated into English = English scanlation.

Plus, the person took some liberties of the translation, such as using the name "Rene" when Rene's name was never used.

Check your Private Messages though.