Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (take 3)

[FoxxFireArt]

I was not joking :O

About Luluko :heh: well I don't really like Luluko XD

As for Villetta and Ougi's baby. I hope the baby will be a girl and I also hope that she will look like her mother. Villetta is really good looking :love: and so classy too :love:

If you like images of mother with child you might like this drawing I did a while back.
It's my two original characters. Mother with her infant baby

http://foxxfireart.deviantart.com/art/40-000-Ashien-Adler-61228231
Except this baby is a boy. Just looks like a girl, because his mother let's his hair grow out like hers.

[killbethy]

Random thinking...

Since so much speculation is going about C.C. being supposed to smile when she dies, do you think that will happen with Lelouch calling out her real name? If they end the series without saying what her real name is, I will lose my mind.

[Kusaja]

killbethy: I would definitely feel disappointed...even if they later wrote it down in some booklet or magazine article. :rolleyes:

I'm still not entirely sure the Code removal process is fatal. It doesn't seem unlikely at all that C.C.'s predecessor killed herself after having her Code taken away, and V.V. was already heavily wounded from the KMF battle when his Code was taken away.

That was the same impression I got from both scenes. It doesn't need to be fatal, it just usually is...generally because of other circumstances (the Geass giver wants to die or the user wants to kill him/her), not the Code transfer alone.


If C.C. could live out the remainder of a normal life surrounded by friends, I think that would be a satisfactory ending for her. Then again, that manipulative bitch doesn't really deserve a satisfactory ending if you believe in the karma this show throws around so much. I'm fine with letting her agonise for the rest of eternity as all the people she cares for vanish into the flow of time.

I think that's an extremely harsh (and selective) interpretation of the show's "karma"...I mean, from that point of view, almost nobody will deserve a satisfactory ending and we'll only have a mass tragedy. :uhoh:

[KrimzonStriker]

Random thinking...

Since so much speculation is going about C.C. being supposed to smile when she dies, do you think that will happen with Lelouch calling out her real name? If they end the series without saying what her real name is, I will lose my mind.

Damn it all if they remember stuff like Kewell and Rivalz bike of all things and not remember that we still need C.C's real name already >_>

[Discerptor]

I mean, from that point of view, almost nobody will deserve a satisfactory ending and we'll only have a mass tragedy. :uhoh:

Ding ding ding! BINGO! :D

[Shuuda]

Damn it all if they remember stuff like Kewell and Rivalz bike of all things and not remember that we still need C.C's real name already >_>

HEY! Without Rivalz and his bike, there would be no Code Geass.

[eaglei3]

And here is why I don't think Code users lose their memories when their code is taken... that Nun would not have remembered that she wanted to die to kill herself.

[Discerptor]

And here is why I don't think Code users lose their memories when their code is taken... that Nun would not have remembered that she wanted to die to kill herself.

It's entirely possible that she stabbed herself before the Code transfer was complete, though.

[FoxxFireArt]

And here is why I don't think Code users lose their memories when their code is taken... that Nun would not have remembered that she wanted to die to kill herself.

When the code is stolen they finally die. What happened to C.C. last time is she sealed her own Code, but that just seems to send their memories into the World of C.

I thought that maybe C.C. will just seal her code again, but wouldn't that mean that the C.C. we know would be trapped in the World of C. That's just depressing.

[killbethy]

And here is why I don't think Code users lose their memories when their code is taken... that Nun would not have remembered that she wanted to die to kill herself.

That Nun was insane. I really don't think C.C.'s wish is to die on the spot, but just to be mortal and live like a human. It seems like everyone's Geass that they received has something to do with what they really want... It has to take a different form in each person for a reason. I think C.C. wants to be loved/liked and be treated like a normal human being, not an "immortal witch." (I guess this would give more reason for a CluClu ending). She doesn't neccesarily have to die then and there if her wish is that.

I could see something like C.C. protecting Lelouch, Lelouch then getting distraught and calling after C.C. with her real name, C.C. smiles and becomes mortal, then Kallen sees this and realizes that Lelouch isn't a bad guy and tries to get back on the same page with him.

[killbethy]

When the code is stolen they finally die. What happened to C.C. last time is she sealed her own Code, but that just seems to send their memories into the World of C.

I thought that maybe C.C. will just seal her code again, but wouldn't that mean that the C.C. we know would be trapped in the World of C. That's just depressing.

Well, didn't C.C. trap her memories there on purpose? And somehow Marianne was able to revive them. Even if she traps her memories again and seals off her code, someone could bring her back. But then again, C.C. wants to be mortal, since without death, everything is just an "experience." So, perhaps the best thing for C.C. would be to forget her past and develop again forgettting that she is immortal.

Then again, that manipulative bitch doesn't really deserve a satisfactory ending if you believe in the karma this show throws around so much. I'm fine with letting her agonise for the rest of eternity as all the people she cares for vanish into the flow of time.

How is C.C. a manipulative b*tch? She does have redeeming qualities... how many times did she sacrifice herself for Lelouch? She may be immortal, but she obviously still feels pain, and I'm sure being crushed under water pressure wasn't the most pleasant of deaths. Even if she told Lelouch that she knew everything from the start, what are the odds that he would have believed her? All of his memories of his mother were pleasant, so if she came right out and said... "Hey your dad is trying to wipe out all of humanity and just blend them into one consciousness and kill the gods. And by the way, your mother is along for the ride with him and doesn't really care if Nunnally or you lived or died, since she thought she would see you in the end... oh and she knew about the Geass making Nunnally blind and immobile too!" Lelouch would have just told her to "Shut up, immortal witch." Even if he did believe her, his end goal of killing the Emperor and making a peaceful world for Nunnally wouldn't have changed either.


Side note: In the first season, after Shirley's father died and Lelouch was really upset, etc. and C.C. kept kind of mocking him about it. Did Lelouch strangle her to death before he went into the shower?

[FoxxFireArt]

Well, didn't C.C. trap her memories there on purpose? And somehow Marianne was able to revive them. Even if she traps her memories again and seals off her code, someone could bring her back. But then again, C.C. wants to be mortal, since without death, everything is just an "experience." So, perhaps the best thing for C.C. would be to forget her past and develop again forgettting that she is immortal.

I think that would require someone with a Geass or knowledge of it. The problem with sealing the Code is that the C.C. we know just gets sent to the World of C. Trapped there forever surrounded by one's memories with no hope of finding peace or interaction with another person is even more depressing then being immortal.

[Kusaja]

Ding ding ding! BINGO! :D

Well, that's something I definitely don't want to "win"...this show isn't lacking in tragedy by now, and that would just drown us in it. :heh:

If anything, it would be more original, not generally speaking but within the show's own history, to end things on a relatively positive note, not with a "kill them all" resolution or something equally tragic.

[Skellington2612]

I don't really know you for now, that's why :O

And I forgot Miss Skellington, Freya, Wita and Demon >_<

OHH!! Thank you, I´ll be chearing for Ougi/Villeta, which is cannon already!!
The fact she´s pregnant it´s a liveflag, (unless sunrise makes her have the baby before the war ends which I doubt).

I have nothing against those two, just the fact that Ougi forgot Kallen (imouto) but still chearing for them!! I will hate if Taniguchi puts a Tonks/Lupin like final for them!!!

[Revolutionist]

I gotta admit, all this "relationship" talk is getting out of hand in this thread. I mean, this is spoilers and speculation and we have a separate thread for romance/relationships. >_> Besides, this isn't a romance anime, this is a mech show! Or more like Tactical Mindfuck with some Mech+Super robot elements thrown in for good measure.

Seriously, Kallen needs to die, along with Villetta, Ougi, and CC. That way we can forget about all the stupid romance and concentrate on the real stuff like Zero Requiem, Schneizel's plan for Damocles and Nunnaly.

[eaglei3]

I gotta admit, all this "relationship" talk is getting out of hand in this thread. I mean, this is spoilers and speculation and we have a separate thread for romance/relationships. >_> Besides, this isn't a romance anime, this is a mech show! Or more like Tactical Mindfuck with some Mech+Super robot elements thrown in for good measure.

Seriously, Kallen needs to die, along with Villetta, Ougi, and CC. That way we can forget about all the stupid romance and concentrate on the real stuff like Zero Requiem, Schneizel's plan for Damocles and Nunnaly.

We're kind of dead on spoilers though and that just seems to be what keeps popping up which does lead to some speculation discussion...

Speaking of that, care to make a speculation of your own to discuss instead of just showing disappointment about the current discussion?

[Kusaja]

It's entirely possible that she stabbed herself before the Code transfer was complete, though.

This or C.C. had already stabbed the Nun in self-defense...while the wounds of an immortal heal very quickly, compared to those of a normal human, the process is not instantaneous, as we've seen with both V.V. (when he met Charles shortly before his death...those wounds seemed to be more serious than, say, Cornelia's throwing a dagger at his head) and C.C.

[Skellington2612]

I gotta admit, all this "relationship" talk is getting out of hand in this thread. I mean, this is spoilers and speculation and we have a separate thread for romance/relationships. >_> Besides, this isn't a romance anime, this is a mech show! Or more like Tactical Mindfuck with some Mech+Super robot elements thrown in for good measure.

Seriously, Kallen needs to die, along with Villetta, Ougi, and CC. That way we can forget about all the stupid romance and concentrate on the real stuff like Zero Requiem, Schneizel's plan for Damocles and Nunnaly.

Have you entered that thread?? It really scares me... I prefer the calm in the Kallen thread (that is realtive) or in the spoiler thread... besides those are spoilers or speculatios with personal opinion added...

[bladeofdarkness]

We're kind of dead on spoilers though and that just seems to be what keeps popping up which does lead to some speculation discussion...?

and the only spoilers we had in the last few hours HAVE BEEN about relationships (kallen realizing she loves lulu and villeta having a baby)

[FoxxFireArt]

Have you entered that thread?? It really scares me... I prefer the calm in the Kallen thread (that is realtive) or in the spoiler thread... besides those are spoilers or speculatios with personal opinion added...

Well, we can't talk about it in the regular threads, because the whole conversations would have to take place in spoilers brackets. That would get irritating after a while.

We are talking about interviews of the cast where they are talking about the character's motivations and the series finale. It's only fitting it would be talked about in here.
and the only spoilers we had in the last few hours HAVE BEEN about relationships (kallen realizing she loves lulu and villeta having a baby)
I would never forgive this series if Kallen only just realized her feeling for Lelouch and suddenly is paired with Gino. That would be ridiculous.
That's from what the the director told her. Since we never saw Kallen's reaction or realization of that I would only think that we will have a scene later so as the audience we will know that.

[Revolutionist]

We're kind of dead on spoilers though and that just seems to be what keeps popping up which does lead to some speculation discussion...

Speaking of that, care to make a speculation of your own to discuss instead of just showing disappointment about the current discussion?

Well, the characters are being so ambiguous that it's kind of hard to make any speculations. The Zero Requiem for example, we know nothing about. All I know is that Lelouch and Suzaku are working together to change the world, and apparently Lloyd and Cecille are going along with. But then we run into the same problem I stated above, there's not enough information to say with certainty whether they're following willingly or if they're just "parts" or pieces (Chess reference ftw!). Their words suggests they have no choice but to go along with it, but their actions say something completely different. They could just run away to Schneizel if they don't like the plan.

That's all I got for now.

[Lolipopo]

Well we are actually talking about shipping and characters devellopment because the last spoilers Koshimizu (thanks again, you really made my day) provided us were about Kallen's devellopment towards lelouch and about Vilata, Oghi, Chiba, Todou...so forcefully, since this is the spoilers thread...we are talking there about those spoilers.

And as long there isn't a shipping war, it's fine with me, we'll talk about the main plot when we will get more infos about it.

[FoxxFireArt]

Well, the characters are being so ambiguous that it's kind of hard to make any speculations. The Zero Requiem for example, we know nothing about. All I know is that Lelouch and Suzaku are working together to change the world, and apparently Lloyd and Cecille are going along with. But then we run into the same problem I stated above, there's not enough information to say with certainty whether they're following willingly or if they're just "parts" or pieces (Chess reference ftw!). Their words suggests they have no choice but to go along with it, but their actions say something completely different. They could just run away to Schneizel if they don't like the plan.

That's all I got for now.

It would be interesting to know what Zero's Requiem is all about, but we haven't been given any information on it.
It's hard to imagine that Cecil would be so willing to take part in a plan that is intent on getting Suzaku killed. Lloyd I'm not so sure he would mind either way.
Anyone else ever wonder how it was that Gino, Cecil and Lloyd got free from Schneizel. I doubt he would just let Lloyd and Cecil go.

The show has kind of scrapped the chess theme with how they have cast everyone all over the place. Lelouch may be the Black King of the board, but the character who has been his Queen, on the battlefield at least, is no longer part of his force. If anything he is purposely keeping her from the plan.
Watching Suzaku fight, with how he was always bouncing around, feels more like a Knight.

Well we are actually talking about shipping and characters devellopment because the last spoilers Koshimizu (thanks again, you really made my day) provided us were about Kallen's devellopment towards lelouch and about Vilata, Oghi, Chiba, Todou...so forcefully, since this is the spoilers thread...we are talking there about those spoilers.

And as long there isn't a shipping war, it's fine with me, we'll talk about the main plot when we will get more infos about it.

I would never forgive this series if Kallen only just realized her feeling for Lelouch and suddenly is paired with Gino. That would be ridiculous.
That's from what the the director told her. Since we never saw Kallen's reaction or realization of that I would only think that we will have a scene later so as the audience we will know that.

The fighting in the Romance Thread is why I never go in there anymore.

[rpgman1]

We'll just to have and wait see what happens. Schneizel just stood there and listen in on others' comments. Of course, if people say he'll do it then he just do it. Exception being the Avalon blasting Suzaku and Lelouch, then the launching of FLEIA on the Britannian capital. Zero Requiem is interesting and we'll see it set into motion at the last episode. Even if Lelouch is interrupted, he'll be back on track anyway (Nunnally was the greatest distraction and obstacle thus far).

[Shuuda]

Lloyd I'm not so sure he would mind either way.

Lloyd needs Suzaku to pilot the Lancelot, so I doubt he would like seeing him die.

[rpgman1]

Lloyd needs Suzaku to pilot the Lancelot, so I doubt he would like seeing him die.

What about that pink Lancelot? Does that mean C.C. will ride in that? I guess Anya will defect to Lelouch and Suzaku with her Mordred.

[bladeofdarkness]

their plans are to change the world and unite it under one flag
thats why lulu abolished the cast system in britannia and canceled out nobility
so that once he is outed the UFN and britannia can unite without argument from nobility
and his actions are aimmed at making himself a dictator so that everyone would fight against him
its like in god emperor of dune where
leto's plan is to keep humanity imprisond under him so that once he is dead it would spread across the stars beyond what any one tyrent can hold
thats why he is making himself the enemy of the world and why kaguya (who knows about geass)was so shocked when he left
he didnt use his geass on the UFN leaders but threatend them into voting his way (thats why he was happy that only the OOBK would know about the geass,otherwise people would suspect why he didnt just use it)
by making himself the target for all the hate he hopes to be defeated and have the world enter a new phase
one clear of the old britannia and ready to unite for peace once and for all
if he was really trying to win he would have used his geass on the leaders quitely and try to convince the OOBK that he really is after peace rather then make such a public ass of him self
he's also try to get kallen on his side rather then make sure she sides against him
whether you except that he has feelings for her or not you have to admit that making sure that the only pilot who could possibly defeat suzaku sides against you rather then joins you makes little sense unless he isnt really trying to win (not clearing all the conditions to victory) but setting himself up to be defeated

[Narona]

If you like images of mother with child you might like this drawing I did a while back.
It's my two original characters. Mother with her infant baby

http://foxxfireart.deviantart.com/art/40-000-Ashien-Adler-61228231
Except this baby is a boy. Just looks like a girl, because his mother let's his hair grow out like hers.
TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's cute :O. And the background is beautiful.

OHH!! Thank you, I´ll be chearing for Ougi/Villeta, which is cannon already!!
The fact she´s pregnant it´s a liveflag, (unless sunrise makes her have the baby before the war ends which I doubt).

I have nothing against those two, just the fact that Ougi forgot Kallen (imouto) but still chearing for them!! I will hate if Taniguchi puts a Tonks/Lupin like final for them!!!
A liveflag for her, at least.... as for ougi, we will see ^^ I still hope for a good ending with them getting married and all (like in that artwork from a magazine during the first season XD).

[FoxxFireArt]

their plans are to change the world and unite it under one flag
thats why lulu abolished the cast system in britannia and canceled out nobility
so that once he is outed the UFN and britannia can unite without argument from nobility
and his actions are aimmed at making himself a dictator so that everyone would fight against him
its like in god emperor of dune where
leto's plan is to keep humanity imprisond under him so that once he is dead it would spread across the stars beyond what any one tyrent can hold
thats why he is making himself the enemy of the world and why kaguya (who knows about geass)was so shocked when he left
he didnt use his geass on the UFN leaders but threatend them into voting his way (thats why he was happy that only the OOBK would know about the geass,otherwise people would suspect why he didnt just use it)
by making himself the target for all the hate he hopes to be defeated and have the world enter a new phase
one clear of the old britannia and ready to unite for peace once and for all
if he was really trying to win he would have used his geass on the leaders quitely and try to convince the OOBK that he really is after peace rather then make such a public ass of him self
he's also try to get kallen on his side rather then make sure she sides against him
whether you except that he has feelings for her or not you have to admit that making sure that the only pilot who could possibly defeat suzaku sides against you rather then joins you makes little sense unless he isnt really trying to win (not clearing all the conditions to victory) but setting himself up to be defeated

That or he's trying to keep her out of the fate that Suzaku and Lelouch expect in the end. If she was to side with him she would also suffer the consequences. It was Lelouch who asked to take a detour. He also broke character when they approached the club house. It's like he at least wanted to say goodbye to her first.

[bladeofdarkness]

That or he's trying to keep her out of the fate that Suzaku and Lelouch expect in the end. If she was to side with him she would also suffer the consequences. It was Lelouch who asked to take a detour. He also broke character when they approached the club house. It's like he at least wanted to say goodbye to her first.

goes without saying

[FoxxFireArt]

TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's cute :O. And the background is beautiful.

Thanks. I was going for a fancy hot spring look.

[Lolipopo]

If Lelouch is surviving with a lover, I could easily see Oghi die. (and we could see Viletta with her child, in front of his grave...)
If Lelouch dies/disappears, then I think Oghi will live.

I think Taniguchi will permit, at least, at one couple to have a happy end. And sadly, not at all...so if Kallen wins, it could be Oghi VS Kallen...Oghi san, you forgotten her, then permit her to have a happy end ! :p
Now, there is some needs to make choices :P

@Foxx : Sure, now we can definitely make burn in hell all those crazy thinks about Gino and Kallen. Now, I really think that Nina, Kallen, Anya and Gino, as shown in the OP, will be the third faction. If this happen, I think I'm going to love to see it; I'm already in a hurry to see Kallen makes her own choices so...

[Narona]

Thanks. I was going for a fancy hot spring look.
Kawai :O Tama is from Love Hina XD?

If Lelouch is surviving with a lover, I could easily see Oghi die. (and we could see Viletta with her child, in front of his grave...)
If Lelouch dies/disappears, then I think Oghi will live.

I think Taniguchi will permit, at least, at one couple to have a happy end. And sadly, not at all...so if Kallen wins, it could be Oghi VS Kallen...Oghi san, you forgotted her, then permit her to have a happy end ! :p
Now, there is some needs to make choices :P
Lelouch doesn't need to die. He can end up alone at least right after the end of the series. And Kallen could die too :p

About Ougi, he has to live now that CxL is buried in a steel coffin :sad:

[Orga777]

I gotta admit, all this "relationship" talk is getting out of hand in this thread. I mean, this is spoilers and speculation and we have a separate thread for romance/relationships. >_> Besides, this isn't a romance anime, this is a mech show! Or more like Tactical Mindfuck with some Mech+Super robot elements thrown in for good measure.

Seriously, Kallen needs to die, along with Villetta, Ougi, and CC. That way we can forget about all the stupid romance and concentrate on the real stuff like Zero Requiem, Schneizel's plan for Damocles and Nunnaly.

Speaker of the true word!:heh:

Down with Pairings! On with the Plot!

[FoxxFireArt]

If Lelouch is surviving with a lover, I could easily see Oghi die. (and we could see Viletta with her child, in front of his grave...)
If Lelouch dies/disappears, then I think Oghi will live.

I think Taniguchi will permit, at least, at one couple to have a happy end. And sadly, not at all...so if Kallen wins, it could be Oghi VS Kallen...Oghi san, you forgotten her, then permit her to have a happy end ! :p
Now, there is some needs to make choices :P

@Foxx : Sure, now we can definitely make burn in hell all those crazy thinks about Gino and Kallen. Now, I really think that Nina, Kallen, Anya and Gino, as shown in the OP, will be the third faction. If this happen, I think I'm going to love to see it; I'm already in a hurry to see Kallen makes her own choices so...

I'm still not so sure the show wont screw us over with Kallen and Gino. Now that I know that Kallen only just realized that she loves Lelouch if they try and pair her with Gino I will hate this series.

How could Nina be a part of some third faction when Lelouch just captured her? Listening to that scene it seems like she was in fact a target.
Lelouch said to release the student that is with her, but I wonder if Nina will insist on Rivalz coming. He did tell them to treat her as a VIP.
Speaker of the true word!:heh:

Down with Pairings! On with the Plot!
We can talk about plot as soon as some plot related information comes up in here. Its just the relationship information is what's new right now. It's only natural it would take up the oxygen in the room for now.

[Lolipopo]

Kawai :O Tama is from Love Hina XD?


Lelouch doesn't need to die. He can end up alone at least right after the end of the series. And Kallen could die too :p

About Ougi, he has to live now that CxL is buried in a steel coffin :sad:


Noooo x( I want to see Kallen happy, Lelouch must stay alive T.T

About CluClu, I'd like to think like you (:p) But I'm still a bit worried about them; There is still this smile promise, and CC will certainly play a role at the end...

Bah, as you told me before, don't be sure of anything, we aren't taniguchi (erf Am I trying to defend CluClu's chance ? I think that me illness reached my brain <_<)

If Viletta tell to Oghi that she is pregnant, I wonder if it will be more like a death or live flag...he could fight of all his own just to live in the future with this baby, so, I guess it will be a live flag...but If she doesn't tell him so...
I want the end. Now >.<

Foxxy : About Nina, she was ready to make something, but what...we don't know. And we aren't sure that Lloyd isn't going to help her, even if she is in Lelouch's hands :p
She will be unlikely in the fighters team, but still, her intentions were there ;)

All those people lost without factions...who could have think that it was sort of spoilerish of the end of the serie...

[Vakir]

...Does a simple discussion rile you that much?

It's more that I grew out of the "WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT, SUPERMAN OR GOKU?!?1!!1" mentality when I was 11.

and the only spoilers we had in the last few hours HAVE BEEN about relationships

Unfortunately. Let Villetta give birth to her kid with Ohgi and let the brats take that as their romantic ending. The rest of us can hope for a realistic conclusion to a what's essentially a nuclear world war.

[Orga777]

We can talk about plot as soon as some plot related information comes up in here. Its just the relationship information is what's new right now. It's only natural it would take up the oxygen in the room for now.

I know. I just like going into my "Crazy Zealot Mode.":heh:

[Narona]

Noooo x( I want to see Kallen happy, Lelouch must stay alive T.T
I know that ^^

About CluClu, I'd like to think like you (:p) But I'm still a bit worried about them; There is still this smile promise, and CC will certainly play a role at the end...

Bah, as you told me before, don't be sure of anything, we aren't taniguchi (erf Am I trying to defend CluClu's chance ? I think that me illness reached my brain <_<)
Well, I have still 0.1% of hope ( :sad: ) but there is only 3 episodes. The only possibility would be that C.C. would get a lot of scenes in those 3 episodes, but it's unlikely. (i'm talking about the romantic part).

And Ami's interview is quite important, since it shows clearly that Kallen loves lelouch a lot. And I don't think that taniguchi is that Evil. I will not say that the pairing is Canon but there is high possibility that it will be the case soon enough.

But thanks anyway :sad:


If Viletta tell to Oghi that she is pregnant, I wonder if it will be more like a death or live flag...he could fight of all his own just to live in the future with this baby, so, I guess it will be a live flag...but If she doesn't tell him so...
I want the end. Now >.<
When she will realize that she is pregnant, I would want for them to leave the OotBK. But I know it's unlikely. There is still this promise that Ougi made with Naoto.

[darthfury78]

Does anyone think that we might see "The World of C" and the thought elevator once again?

[Lolipopo]

It's more that I grew out of the "WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT, SUPERMAN OR GOKU?!?1!!1" mentality when I was 11.

Unfortunately. Let Villetta give birth to her kid with Ohgi and let the brats take that as their romantic ending. The rest of us can hope for a realistic conclusion to a what's essentially a nuclear world war.

Bah, If you want avoid relationship/characters devellopment discussion, and just speak about the possibility of the end of the world, you can always go watch Dragon Ball Z, you can be sure that there, noone will annoy you with this kind of stuff. And still...

Seriously...:rolleyes:
And you aren't the last one to like to speak about romance, seen those posts of yours on the Kallen thread.

[pingva]

Romance with Lelouch and a happy life . Sorry, I don't see that.

[X_Danny_X]

for this best pilot, screw that, Suzaku has been made an all around fighter..he is very good with his mecha and also without.....seeing as he is dodging bullets, beatiing multiple armmed opponents, the writers i believe will make him the best pilot....might cost him his life

also, since it was fact that Marianne was better than bismark? wasnt it just assumption that she was this good pilot?

in the past i had it like Bismark was greater than all since he had so much talk about being the best pilot. which makes me believe he still is

[Vakir]

Bah, If you want avoid relationship/characters devellopment discussion, and just speak about the possibility of the end of the world, you can always go watch Dragon Ball Z, you can be sure that there, noone will annoy you with this kind of stuff. And still...

I love character development. I love decent plots. I don't like relationship posts scumming it all up. Thanks for assuming everyone who doesn't share your ideas is into shonen for pre-teens, though. Not condescending at all.

Seriously...:rolleyes:
And you aren't the last one to like to speak about romance, seen those posts of yours on the Kallen thread.

I suggest you read them again more carefully.

If you're here for solely the romance (which is what you'd think when you read your and Kang's posts), I don't know why you didn't stop watching the show back around episode 2 in the first season.

Romance with Lelouch and a happy life . Sorry, I don't see that.

This.

"The Power of the King will isolate you...except for the part where everyone's having a joyous happy ending and you make out with tsundere firecrotch just because some of the fans want you to. But you know, that wouldn't trivialize these words at all. No, but seriously...the Power of the King will isolate you. JUST KIDDING. You're fine, go save the world and fill it with bunnies and rainbows."

[FoxxFireArt]

I know that ^^


Well, I have still 0.1% of hope ( :sad: ) but there is only 3 episodes. The only possibility would be that C.C. would get a lot of scenes in those 3 episodes, but it's unlikely. (i'm talking about the romantic part).

And Ami's interview is quite important, since it shows clearly that Kallen loves lelouch a lot. And I don't think that taniguchi is that Evil. I will not say that the pairing is Canon but there is high possibility that it will be the case soon enough.

But thanks anyway :sad:



Shouldn't you reserve your judgement until you get to read the interview of C.C.'s VA?
Even I'm not going to read too much into Koshimizu Ami's interview.

[prototype_sky]

their plans are to change the world and unite it under one flag
thats why lulu abolished the cast system in britannia and canceled out nobility
so that once he is outed the UFN and britannia can unite without argument from nobility
and his actions are aimmed at making himself a dictator so that everyone would fight against him

he's also try to get kallen on his side rather then make sure she sides against him
whether you except that he has feelings for her or not you have to admit that making sure that the only pilot who could possibly defeat suzaku sides against you rather then joins you makes little sense unless he isnt really trying to win (not clearing all the conditions to victory) but setting himself up to be defeated

There are some flaws with that plan because unless he is a persistant enemy i.e became immortal so they can't be rid of him the peace isn't going to last more than a year or 2 after his death and the old systems would just start up again since monarchies and nobles have existed since the dawn of civiliation even when empires fall.

Also Kallen failed to kill suzaku when she had a superior mech why would he believe Sazuka would lose to her. It seems he believes suzaku is more than enough to pwn everything on the battlefield. I mean he sent Suzaku out alone to fight 3 KOR plus The Knight of One not to mention grunts with zero backup (Maybe that is why he is called the Knight of Zero :heh:).

[Lolipopo]

Romance with Lelouch and a happy life . Sorry, I don't see that.

I don't really care, as far as I know, you aren't Taniguchi :eyespin:
No, seriously, I don't see that too, but it's good to hope.

Well, I have still 0.1% of hope ( ) but there is only 3 episodes. The only possibility would be that C.C. would get a lot of scenes in those 3 episodes, but it's unlikely. (i'm talking about the romantic part).

And Ami's interview is quite important, since it shows clearly that Kallen loves lelouch a lot. And I don't think that taniguchi is that Evil. I will not say that the pairing is Canon but there is high possibility that it will be the case soon enough.

But thanks anyway

You are going to depress me >.< be brave Narona, it's not the end, and personally, I think Taniguchi is evil T.T He mades lelouch suffers of a fake Nunally's death...If this isn't evil I don't know how we can call that -_-'

I'm going to pray to Kalulu, and to Oghi and Viletta now; so, we will be at least both totally, or partially happy :p

When she will realize that she is pregnant, I would want for them to leave the OotBK. But I know it's unlikely. There is still this promise that Ougi made with Naoto.

Sadly, I could very well see a revelation à la Gundam seed; Viletta is talking to Oghi before his final battle and she is telling him the truth "Come back for me...no, for us"
But he is still heading, just like you said, to Naoto, Kallen, and the others. (and he come back, let's hope he will not be the Mwy la Fraga of Code geass...but if this is the case, there will be a Code geass destiny and Oghi...*stop to avoid spoils*)

Ahahaha ce serait trop cliché mais trop romantique xD
On va rendre fous les anti shippers tu sais ? :p

[morbosfist]

When does Ohgi battle any more? He hasn't piloted a Knightmare since Narita. He'll be on the flagship with her, as he always is.

[pingva]

I had a hope, but after 20 and 21 episode my mind changed.

[Vito]

Guys, could we stick to english please? :(

[Lolipopo]

Vakir : Bah, you didn't read all my posts so, and even less Kang's posts; But even if it was the case, I don't think it will be really of your concern.

We are talking about things which are moving fastly; Characters devellopments, and romance, are moving.
We are talking, in this spoilers and speculations thread, about last spoilers and speculations we received; last spoilers Koshimizu provided us were about characters relationship.

You have every right to not appreciate this part about the anime, but don't blame anyone to speculate about those spoilers, this is really becoming irritating to see this kind of reaction.

And yeah, I read your posts and Var's and it was about Kallen and her relationship with Lelouch. Don't give fuel at the torch if you don't want to see it burn, seriously.

Vito : It was an inner joke :P so french seemed appropriate. Sorry ^^

[bladeofdarkness]

There are some flaws with that plan because unless he is a persistant enemy i.e became immortal so they can't be rid of him the peace isn't going to last more than a year or 2 after his death and the old systems would just start up again since monarchies and nobles have existed since the dawn of civiliation even when empires fall.

Also Kallen failed to kill suzaku when she had a superior mech why would he believe Sazuka would lose to her. It seems he believes suzaku is more than enough to pwn everything on the battlefield. I mean he sent Suzaku out alone to fight 3 KOR plus The Knight of One not to mention grunts with zero backup (Maybe that is why he is called the Knight of Zero :heh:).


a)we still dont know the full plan
just the outline (mission objective)

b)she DIDNT kill him ,no failed to
there were other more importent things once the bomb went off and you cant actually argue that suzaku would have had a chance if she hadnt stopped on her own
and my point was that if he was really trying to take over the world he would have at least tried to get kallen on his side (two albions are better then one) rather then act in a manner designed to get her to oppose him
and while i admit she only has about 25% chance of winning against suzaku its still a huge risk when he could have tried to talk her into joining him

[equinox822]

Crack pairings are win. LelouchxInoue (the blue haired black knight in s1) should have been canon. Look at how responsive she was to him when he asked for information on Mao.

[Var]

That was the same impression I got from both scenes. It doesn't need to be fatal, it just usually is...generally because of other circumstances (the Geass giver wants to die or the user wants to kill him/her), not the Code transfer alone.


Then Ep.15 has no meaning. If the Code transfer does not kill C.C. then she can just have Charles take her code peacefully and leave it at that. Further this that V.V. was rambling in line with what was being said in the flashback before they acquired Geass and it really just stops making sense if the Code can be transfered without the carrier dying in some form.

[Ruvixur]

Crack pairings are win. LelouchxInoue (the blue haired black knight in s1) should have been canon. Look at how responsive she was to him when he asked for information on Mao.

Inoue has blue hair:D.
And yes, she rocks.

Then Ep.15 has no meaning. If the Code transfer does not kill C.C. then she can just have Charles take her code peacefully and leave it at that. Further this that V.V. was rambling in line with what was being said in the flashback before they acquired Geass and it really just stops making sense if the Code can be transfered without the carrier dying in some form.

There is a plot device to make C.C lose her Code without losing memories: It's called Geassing the God to make your wish come true.
Though, it's not a very good thing if they will use this Plot Device, and I hope they will not ( and i want C.C to have her Code). ( But given how many times there was Diabolous Ex Machina, it will not be unfair to have a plot device on Lelouch's side)

[Koshimizu]

How could Nina be a part of some third faction when Lelouch just captured her? Listening to that scene it seems like she was in fact a target.
Lelouch said to release the student that is with her, but I wonder if Nina will insist on Rivalz coming. He did tell them to treat her as a VIP.Rivalz's "because we are friends!" line in this episode makes me think he might also play a role in pulling Lelouch back from his path of thorns.
Lelouch really valued the fireworks promise with the student council members. After all, Rivalz was the last person Lelouch talked to when he decided to commit suicide (seal himself with Charles). And technically his last words were "tell Milly I can't keep the firework promise".

If in the end the ones who persuaded him were the student council members... that would also be nice.

Then again... Lelouch can easily have royal guards throw Rivalz out if he really doesn't want to listen to him. XD

We can talk about plot as soon as some plot related information comes up in here. Its just the relationship information is what's new right now. It's only natural it would take up the oxygen in the room for now.Yep. Kallen's interview was the only one with a nice clear scan. There are interviews with other VAs... which I just laid my hands on some decent scans and didn't have time to read through yet. And I sort of have to prepare for a meeting tomorrow. :heh:
I'll post them later tomorrow, if no one posts about them yet.

As for plot, everything is hush-hush.
Animedia has sketches for mechs (Damocles, Avalon, Ikaruga, etc) and places (Pendragon, Cult) and that's about all the non-character info in the three main magazines. Everything else are reviews or analysis on the characters.

[Kusaja]

Then Ep.15 has no meaning. If the Code transfer does not kill C.C. then she can just have Charles take her code peacefully and leave it at that. Further this that V.V. was rambling in line with what was being said in the flashback before they acquired Geass and it really just stops making sense if the Code can be transfered without the carrier dying in some form.

None of us know the truth, but it's only a different meaning or interpretation. The Code transfer is necessary for her to die, but I don't see any clear and unequivocal evidence that means "Code transfer = 100% certain death". In the few cases we've seen so far, other circumstances were involved. I think the scene was just made more dramatic that way, and there's nothing preventing Charles from, say, killing C.C. after the process is complete, if that's what she wants (if she only wanted to restore her original memories and to keep on living, she could have sealed her own Code a long time ago, so there's an extra step involved...). V.V. was already wounded, presumably from the Siegfried's crash, before he crawled up to where Charles was..he only started rambling about past events after losing the Code.

[morbosfist]

It doesn't look like Rivalz will get the chance to get close enough, but you never know. I doubt it will be Rivalz in any case. He just doesn't know Lelouch well enough.

[lovecakecookies]

Rivalz's "because we are friends!" line in this episode makes me think he might also play a role in pulling Lelouch back from his path of thorns.
Lelouch really valued the fireworks promise with the student council members. After all, Rivalz was the last person Lelouch talked to when he decided to commit suicide (seal himself with Charles). And technically his last words were "tell Milly I can't keep the firework promise".

If in the end the ones who persuaded him were the student council members... that would also be nice.

Then again... Lelouch can easily have royal guards throw Rivalz out if he really doesn't want to listen to him. XD

Yep. Kallen's interview was the only one with a nice clear scan. There are interviews with other VAs... which I just laid my hands on some decent scans and didn't have time to read through yet. And I sort of have to prepare for a meeting tomorrow. :heh:
I'll post them later tomorrow, if no one posts about them yet.

As for plot, everything is hush-hush.
Animedia has sketches for mechs (Damocles, Avalon, Ikaruga, etc) and places (Pendragon, Cult) and that's about all the non-character info in the three main magazines. Everything else are reviews or analysis on the characters.

Yup... unlike most people I see a corny ending.. I know is sounds ridiculous but Lulu will probably be with all the student council members at the end looking at fireworks.. just watch it happen.. and Nina will survive!

[Koshimizu]

When does Ohgi battle any more? He hasn't piloted a Knightmare since Narita. He'll be on the flagship with her, as he always is.http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/011114291.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=11114291&owner=Kouzuki)
The bridge bunnies' expression (in distress?) makes me wonder if they will sink the whole Ikaruga...

[Kusaja]

Yup... unlike most people I see a corny ending.. I know is sounds ridiculous but Lulu will probably be with all the student council members at the end looking at fireworks.. just watch it happen.. and Nina will survive!

I'm somewhat hoping for something equally corny, as long as it's well executed, somehow...:heh:

[FoxxFireArt]

Rivalz's "because we are friends!" line in this episode makes me think he might also play a role in pulling Lelouch back from his path of thorns.
Lelouch really valued the fireworks promise with the student council members. After all, Rivalz was the last person Lelouch talked to when he decided to commit suicide (seal himself with Charles). And technically his last words were "tell Milly I can't keep the firework promise".

If in the end the ones who persuaded him were the student council members... that would also be nice.

Then again... Lelouch can easily have royal guards throw Rivalz out if he really doesn't want to listen to him. XD
I thought about that, but I also wonder how much of the call was Lelouch worried about the student council and wanted to find out if everyone was alright before he left.
If Nina insisted on Rivalz being allowed to come I could see Lloyd permitting that.


Yep. Kallen's interview was the only one with a nice clear scan. There are interviews with other VAs... which I just laid my hands on some decent scans and didn't have time to read through yet. And I sort of have to prepare for a meeting tomorrow. :heh:
I'll post them later tomorrow, if no one posts about them yet.

As for plot, everything is hush-hush.
Animedia has sketches for mechs (Damocles, Avalon, Ikaruga, etc) and places (Pendragon, Cult) and that's about all the non-character info in the three main magazines. Everything else are reviews or analysis on the characters.
That's why I told Narona not to lose heart so easily. There are still other VA comments to go through.
Kallen's VA interview was interesting, but also confusing. If Kallen really just discovered that she loves Lelouch why was it that wasn't pointed out in that scene or something later? I could only think that's because there will be something later, but unless someone tells her what he's really up to. I don't see how she could ever find out.
So few people know that I don't see why any of them would tell her. Everyone involved in Lelouch's plan seems to have an invested interest. I thought that maybe C.C. tells her something, but she's hardly ever been one to give Kallen much information. Why change things now.

I sent you a link to a Kallen 4koma I made of that kissing scene. Hope you liked it.
I love detailed design sketches of the mechs and such. As an artist I like details like that. I only wish I could find a sketch of the inside of the Guren and other KMFs.
http://www.shareapic.net/preview3/011114291.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=11114291&owner=Kouzuki)
The bridge bunnies' expression (in distress?) makes me wonder if they will sink the whole Ikaruga...

My guess is a crash. I don't see a suicide run ever really effecting something as large as Damocles.

[Var]

None of us know the truth, but it's only a different meaning or interpretation. The Code transfer is necessary for her to die, but I don't see any clear and unequivocal evidence that means "Code transfer = 100% certain death". In the few cases we've seen so far, other circumstances were involved. I think the scene was just made more dramatic that way, and there's nothing preventing Charles from, say, killing C.C. after the process is complete, if that's what she wants (if she only wanted to recover her memories and to keep on living, she could have sealed her own Code a long time ago, so there's an extra step involved...). V.V. was already wounded, presumably from the Siegfried's crash, before he crawled up to where Charles was..he only started rambling about past events after losing the Code.

The point is, if Code transfer does not equate to death, then there was no real meaning to the scene in Ep.15. If she was not going to die from the code being taken by Charles, there was no reason for Lelouch's lines or for her to act as she did. She can just let him have the Code and walk away with Lelouch.

The other point I was making is that V.V., after losing his code, seemingly lost his memory. Hence why his rambling fits so well with the flashback of the two brothers before acquiring the Geass, when they made their pact to never lie. This only furthers the idea that, when the Code is lost, the carrier dies in some form. It does not have to be physical death.

Also, to further this, sealing the code and losing memories would also be an inconsistency if losing the code just lets you keep your memories. Then we have Mao...

[Dream_Traveller]

Well, the Bridge Bunnies are next in line after Claudio and who knows else. Eh.

[Witacume]

Well, the Bridge Bunnies are next in line after Claudio and who knows else. Eh.

you forgoting Xingke.
You said that blood in the preview that does not bold well for him.

[Dream_Traveller]

He'll probably live until the final battle. As for the Bridge Bunnies' expressions, at least those of Hinata and Mutsuki, I'm half expecting them to look like that if a Frame appears in front of the Ikaruga's bridge. Maybe Nonette's.

[prototype_sky]

I wonder if the BK/Schneziels thinks that Suzaku has been geassed into being Lulu's slave

[Kusaja]

The point is, if Code transfer does not equate to death, then there was no real meaning to the scene in Ep.15. If she was not going to die from the code being taken by Charles, there was no reason for Lelouch's lines or for her to act as she did.

She is apparently tired of life in general and Charles had already promised to kill her, like she wanted. After losing the Code, killing her would be the simplest thing.


The other point I was making is that V.V., after losing his code, seemingly lost his memory. Hence why his rambling fits so well with the flashback of the two brothers before acquiring the Geass, when they made their pact to never lie. This only furthers the idea that, when the Code is lost, the carrier dies in some form. It does not have to be physical death.

There is a "death" of the current memories / personality of the person, I don't disagree with that...but I was questioning the need for direct, absolute physical death after Code removal.


Also, to further this, sealing the code and losing memories would also be an inconsistency if losing the code just lets you keep your memories. Then we have Mao...

Maybe I wasn't clear there...I didn't mean restoring and keeping her current memories or personality (the C.C. who knows Lelouch), but the ones she had before Geass / immortality (the slave girl). I don't know if it's possible to lose the Code and still keep all current memories intact (no indication yet), thus I'm not arguing that.

[lovecakecookies]

I wonder if the BK/Schneziels thinks that Suzaku has been geassed into being Lulu's slave

Naw, they know Suzaku and how he changes his loyalties.. remember even Bismark pointed it out, how he was a betrayer and stuff..

[Var]

She is apparently tired of life in general and Charles had already promised to kill her, like she wanted. After losing the Code, killing her would be the simplest thing.

If she had changed her mind about allowing Charles to kill her, then she can tell him. He has no reason to force death on her as all he wants is her code.


There is a "death" of the current memories / personality of the person, I don't disagree with that...but I was questioning the need for direct, absolute physical death.

I never said physical death, I meant that the carrier will simply die in one form or another. I'm personally of the opinion that C.C. has to die for her 'sins', but the little 10-year old has no reason to die, in fact she needs to actually live her life.


Maybe I wasn't clear there...I didn't mean restoring her current memories or personality, but the ones she had before Geass / immortality. I don't know if it's possible to lose the Code and still keep all current memories intact, thus I'm not arguing that.

Ahh alright, I was confused then. Because, the way I see it and with what's been presented, keeping the memories is rather inconsistent.

[Jestersage]

I wonder if the BK/Schneziels thinks that Suzaku has been geassed into being Lulu's slave

No; Schneizel/Kanon expected him to betray.

[Orga777]

While we are on the discussion of "Death Flags" it is once again time for my updated Probability Chart! Some people are higher, some are lower, some remained the same. But here it is!

Probability of Death:
High
1. Xing-Ke- 100%
2. Nonette- 100% (sorry Dream_Traveller...)
3. Jeremiah- 85%
4. Chiba- 75%
5. Minami- 75%
6. Sugiyama- 75%
7. Kanon- 75%
8. C.C.- 70%
9. Toudou- 70%
10. Deithard- 70%
11. Lelouch- 65%
12. Suzaku- 65%
13. Gino- 65%
14. Anya- 60%
Mid
15. Nina- 55%
16. Lloyd- 55%
17. Cecile- 55%
18. Schneizel- 50%
19. Kallen- 50%
20. Nunnally- 50%
21. Cornelia- 50%
22. Kaguya- 50%
23. Ougi- 45%
24. Sayoko- 40%
25. Rakshata- 40%
Low
26. Tainzi- 20%
27. Villetta- 20%
28. Milly- 15%
29. Rivalz- 15%
30. Tamaki- 10%

[Witacume]

While we are on the discussion of "Death Flags" it is once again time for my updated Probability Chart! Some people are higher, some are lower, some remained the same. But here it is!

Probability of Death:
High
1. Xing-Ke- 100%
2. Nonette- 100% (sorry Dream_Traveller...)
3. Jeremiah- 85%
4. Chiba- 75%
5. Minami- 75%
6. Sugiyama- 75%
7. Kanon- 75%
8. C.C.- 70%
9. Toudou- 70%
10. Deithard- 70%
11. Lelouch- 65%
12. Suzaku- 65%
13. Gino- 65%
14. Anya- 60%
Mid
15. Nina- 55%
16. Lloyd- 55%
17. Cecile- 55%
18. Schneizel- 50%
19. Kallen- 50%
20. Nunnally- 50%
21. Cornelia- 50%
22. Kaguya- 50%
23. Ougi- 45%
24. Sayoko- 40%
25. Rakshata- 40%
Low
26. Tainzi- 20%
27. Villetta- 20%
28. Milly- 15%
29. Rivalz- 15%
30. Tamaki- 10%

i disagree with your nunnally .
Nunnnaly is really high death flag atm.

[Dream_Traveller]

Eh. I sort of expected Nonette's death. I just hope she goes out doing something like Luciano did.

[Shuuda]

I think Ougi sould be at 50% chance atleast. And lloyd should be lower, he's too happy to die.

[ashlay]

you forgoting Xingke.
You said that blood in the preview that does not bold well for him.
meh, at least Li's not technically a traitorous bastard like all the first generation Order members. I'd say his chances of living are far better than any of theirs. >_>

[Orga777]

i disagree with your nunnally .
Nunnnaly is really high death flag atm.

I don't though. There is (as usual) countless things that can happen with her. Since I don't know much about what is really going on with her yet, I left her at 50%.

[FoxxFireArt]

I don't though. There is (as usual) countless things that can happen with her. Since I don't know much about what is really going on with her yet, I left her at 50%.

I only really disagree with your Schneizel rating. He's big bad villain never makes it out of these things alive. Otherwise it sounds like there could be more episodes.

[Shuuda]

meh, at least Li's not technically a traitorous bastard like all the first generation Order members. I'd say his chances of living are far better than any of theirs. >_>

Xingke will die in a blaze of glory, possibly self sacrifice to save Tanzi.

[Methuselah]

23. Ougi- 45%


Yor're kidding, right? Ougi got knifed by Kunais and fell from a hill - not to mention he got shot fatally in S1 final episode; yet you still have him below half? XD

[Orga777]

I only really disagree with your Schneizel rating. he big bad villain never makes it out of these things alive. Otherwise it sounds like there could be more episodes.

Again, I have my own view on how that Schneizel thing will play out. It doesn't help that we don't know what he is planning either or what his real intentions are. Him being at 50% is being fair till I know more.

[zalem]

i disagree with your nunnally .
Nunnnaly is really high death flag atm.

I actually think Nunnally has a very low death flag at the moment. I do think Schneizel's percentage should be higher. Lulu and Suzaku's too.

[Orga777]

I actually think Nunnally has a very low death flag at the moment. I do think Schneizel's percentage should be higher. Lulu and Suzaku's too.

I already explained my reason for keeping Schneizel at 50%. As for Lelouch and Suzaku, I almost put them at 70-75%. But I decided against it until, same with Schneizel, I learn more about their plan. They are at 65% because their path now is very dangerous for them. There is also still hope for them to be pulled out of this.

[KrimzonStriker]

If she had changed her mind about allowing Charles to kill her, then she can tell him. He has no reason to force death on her as all he wants is her code.

Hmm, I don't know, there might have been another reason why she didn't allow him to take the code. Like say... the Ragnarok Connection maybe? <_<

[geewhiz]

Well well looks like I was right to suggest a final Kallen vs. Suzaku confrontation, this time in the mode of SEITEN v. Albion.

But it looks like the roles are (at this moment) reversed (in regards of who's fighting for/against Lelouch).

But tossing that VA wrench in there does muddy things up a bit...

[ashlay]

Well well looks like I was right to suggest a final Kallen vs. Suzaku confrontation, this time in the mode of SEITEN v. Albion.

But it looks like the roles are (at this moment) reversed (in regards of who's fighting for/against Lelouch).

But tossing that VA wrench in there does muddy things up a bit...
it's good though. Suzaku's more or less secure in what he believes and who he is now, but Kallen's still constantly doubting herself. At this point, having Suzaku as the protagonist yelling at the minor antagonist Kallen to get her act straight is the way it should be.

[geewhiz]

it's good though. Suzaku's more or less secure in what he believes and who he is now, but Kallen's still constantly doubting herself. At this point, having Suzaku as the one yelling at Kallen to get her act straight is the way it should be.

What about that bit about "Oh, Suzaku and Lelouch will never work together!"

[bladeofdarkness]

it's good though. Suzaku's more or less secure in what he believes and who he is now, but Kallen's still constantly doubting herself. At this point, having Suzaku as the protagonist yelling at the minor antagonist Kallen to get her act straight is the way it should be.

except that he may end up killing her

[ashlay]

What about that bit about "Oh, Suzaku and Lelouch will never work together!"
The comment was that Suzaku and Zero will never work together again after stage 20.

But didn't you hear? Zero's dead! :heh:

except that he may end up killing her
meh, I doubt it. Though of course you never know, Kallen's just too standard mecha protagonist to actually die.

[Narona]

What about that bit about "Oh, Suzaku and Lelouch will never work together!"
Then they say IIRC "if they work together again, it would be the end of the series" (somethings in those lines)

And guess what? We are near the end, so it fits ^^

[geewhiz]

Frankly if Kallen dies I will not be the least bit surprised.

And if the BK & UNF join up with Schneizel (which is a 50/50 chance) they have every reason to get their collective butts whipped.

[FoxxFireArt]

meh, I doubt it. Though of course you never know, Kallen's just too standard mecha protagonist to actually die.

She's also the closest thing to the female Japanese lead.

[)v(anic]

man i think i will go nuts if both kallen and sheryl die the same weekend.

I doubt kallens gonna die tho

[Revolutionist]

Schneizel at 50% is perfectly fine. Yes he seems like the obvious villain with the whole virtuous/gentle mask and the apparent underlying vicious personality and supporting god complex. However, this is too easy! Charles appeared to be a giant douche and look how he ended up, a totally GRAY character; overall good intentions, attrocious attitude because the results would negate all previous evil done. Again not exactly evil but not exactly good either.

Schneizel has been shown as a cunning individual with some dark hidden motives, there's hints that we can use to conclude he wants the world via using Nunnaly as empress and pulling her strings, he has a god complex, is too nice of a guy so he MUST be hiding a nasty personality. Wants to nuke the world into submission. However! What if he really doesn't give a shit and is just doing this as part of a game? What if he truly is a nice guy after all and just wants all the suffering to end? What if he is really in favor of being #2 to Nunnaly and helping her create the world she desires while not putting himself in the throne? What if he's doing all this stuff because he disagrees with Lelouch's methods, which we can't really say are righteous...Turning people into slaves is no better than FLAIJA'ing them...

I don't believe Schneizel is a villain in the traditional sense of the word. He's more of say a Milliardo Peacecraft type "villain".

[geewhiz]

LOL if we want to do a "villainous ranking" then:

1. Eunuchs
2. Mao
3. VV
4. Schneizel
5. Charles

Any other perspectives?

[KrimzonStriker]

Pfftt, if anyone is Milardo its Lelouch, Schneizel can be a more bloated and arrogant Trez <_<

[Darkcraft]

villainous ranking is subjective
mine ll be
1 Nina
2 Schneizel
3 Charles
4 Cornelia
5 Euphemia

[lovecakecookies]

LOL...@ Nina.... she was surprised countries would be after her..:uhoh:

[Revolutionist]

villainous ranking is subjective
mine ll be
1 Nina
2 Schneizel
3 Charles
4 Cornelia
5 Euphemia

How the hell is Euphy even remotely villainous? Are you kidding me?! Cornelia is not evil either, all she's really done has been dish out punishment to terrorists. Charles wasn't really a villain, he had good intentions, Schneizel probably won't be a villain and Nina, well LOL misguided, infantile yes, but a villain? Please...

[morbosfist]

Damn Nina, she had to go and make herself likable to an extent. I kinda feel bad for her because she was so clueless.

[bladeofdarkness]

LOL if we want to do a "villainous ranking" then:

1. Eunuchs
2. Mao
3. VV
4. Schneizel
5. Charles

Any other perspectives?

i think the former Knight of ten deserves a place on that list
probably as a -13 for having neither a plan nor any redeaming traits at all

[geewhiz]

villainous ranking is subjective
mine ll be
1 Nina
2 Schneizel
3 Charles
4 Cornelia
5 Euphemia

This is a truly retarded list. :uhoh:

Edit: I like the Ko10 suggestion...

[Discerptor]

Pfftt, if anyone is Milardo its Lelouch, Schneizel can be a more bloated and arrogant Trez <_<

No, another member and I already established who's who. It's fact now.

Heero Yuy = Toudou
Duo Maxwell = Kallen
Trowa Barton = Lelouch
Quatre Winner = Rolo
Wu Fei = Li XingKe
Miliardo Peacecraft = Suzaku

This was based on a long discussion that involved character traits, crack pairings, mecha and the possibility of a "Code Geass: Endless Waltz" movie.

[Revolutionist]

Damn Nina, she had to go and make herself likable to an extent. I kinda feel bad for her because she was so clueless.

Exactly.

She was clueless and Kannon took advantage of that and manipulated her into making FLAIJA, which we now know she didn't know the consequences it would bring to the world and herself.

[Kushi]

I`m hoping for an ending where Lulu dies, and Suzaku lives, for some random reason the zero reqium will make everything peaceful and happy. Then they`re all playing around in the water. Then Euphie will come and chat with Suzaku then he`ll see Lelouch waiting for her at the door way all in ghost form and they`ll walk away! While C.C is somewhere else living out her live :P

XD yeah I think everyone knows where that ending`s from. Anywayss that`s just purely my wish :P

[KrimzonStriker]

Exactly.

She was clueless and Kannon took advantage of that and manipulated her into making FLAIJA, which we now know she didn't know the consequences it would bring to the world and herself.

Well, here's hoping whatever Lelouch has in store for her manages to redeem her actions later <_<

[kaefer_zwei]

villainous ranking is subjective
mine ll be
1 Nina
2 Schneizel
3 Charles
4 Cornelia
5 Euphemia

wtf? he even included Euphemia... :eyespin: insane

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Damn Nina, she had to go and make herself likable to an extent. I kinda feel bad for her because she was so clueless.

blinded by her hatred for Zero, all in all. The effects of FLEIJA came as a very rude awakening to her... :uhoh:

[KrimzonStriker]

wtf? he even included Euphemia... :eyespin: insane

She did make a pretty bad ass villain during stage 22 I guess :heh:

[prototype_sky]

Xingke will die in a blaze of glory, possibly self sacrifice to save Tanzi.


Since Lulu practically just up'd and left the hostages

I am assuming BK just declared war on Britannia after lulu's little stunt even though Britannia backed off.

Maybe the true plan was insight war with UFN to come after Britannia.
This would destroy any decent alliance Schniezel had with BK prior then he and suzaku would neutralize the freia treat and schniezel then disappear allowing BK to overthrow Britannia.

[lovecakecookies]

blinded by her hatred for Zero, all in all. The effects of FLEIJA came as a very rude awakening to her... :uhoh:

Still weird though, considering she was supposed to be a genius, but oh well, shes still a teenager I guess..

[kaefer_zwei]

Well, here's hoping whatever Lelouch has in store for her manages to redeem her actions later <_<

nina is just like rakshata and loyd their not really accountable for their actions... cause its really not the ones who make the weapons that are responsible its those who use them.... :twitch: i think thats how it goes?

[lovecakecookies]

nina is just like rakshata and loyd their not really accountable for their actions... cause its really not the ones who make the weapons that are responsible its those who use them.... :twitch: i think thats how it goes?

OOOhh... It depends on who you ask...

[Discerptor]

Well, here's hoping whatever Lelouch has in store for her manages to redeem her actions later <_<

LELOUCH: Make me FLEIJAs.

NINA: No! I refuse to throw away my heart for science! I won't aid in this destruction anymore!

LELOUCH uses his magical ONE-HANDED GEASS CONTACT REMOVAL TECHNIQUE

LELOUCH: From now on, you shall be my slave and do whatever I say.

NINA: No... NO!!! I... YES, YOUR MAJESTY.

Hm, I'm not sure if that'd be very redeeming, but it seems most likely.

[KrimzonStriker]

LELOUCH: Make me FLEIJAs.

NINA: No! I refuse to throw away my heart for science! I won't aid in this destruction anymore!

LELOUCH uses his magical ONE-HANDED GEASS CONTACT REMOVAL TECHNIQUE

LELOUCH: From now on, you shall be my slave and do whatever I say.

NINA: No... NO!!! I... YES, YOUR MAJESTY.

Hm, I'm not sure if that'd be very redeeming, but it seems most likely.

Pfft, she's his friend, did you forget? What about that whole 'treat her with respect' line? He's not that big an asshole no matter how much he pretends he is. She'll be fine I tell you, Lloyd's there to smooth things over >_>

[morbosfist]

Even if she could make them, it would take time and doesn't solve the immediate threat. What he's likely looking for is ways of countering the bombs, or info on Damocles she would have that he doesn't.

[Freya]

Pfft, she's his friend, did you forget? What about that whole 'treat her with respect' line? He's not that big an asshole no matter how much he pretends he is. She'll be fine I tell you, Lloyd's there to smooth things over >_>

Friends? Lulu doesn't believe in friends anymore...

[Discerptor]

Pfft, she's his friend, did you forget? What about that whole 'treat her with respect' line? He's not that big an asshole no matter how much he pretends he is. She'll be fine I tell you, Lloyd's there to smooth things over >_>

"Treat her with respect" so they don't hit her head and somehow damage her scientific mind, rendering her useless to him. Lelouch crossed the point of just making people into zombies, and the new Suzaku is condoning this. They're both scum that I hope live just long enough to see their plans fail before dying fruitless deaths. And just seeing the effects of one bomb already hit Nina so hard that she's started to redeem herself. Turning back and deciding to make more would make her current development pointless. Lelouch has never been close with Nina anyway.

[bladeofdarkness]

Friends? Lulu doesn't believe in friends anymore...

he does care for them
thats why he pushes them away
he just happens to get it wrong as thats not what your suppose to do with friends

[KrimzonStriker]

Friends? Lulu doesn't believe in friends anymore...

Pfft, sure he does. Probably the most important thing to him next to Nunnally. Like I said, no matter how much of an asshole he comes off as he's still at his core the decent person they knew him as :p

"Treat her with respect" so they don't hit her head and somehow damage her scientific mind, rendering her useless to him. Lelouch crossed the point of just making people into zombies, and the new Suzaku is condoning this. They're both scum that I hope live just long enough to see their plans fail before dying fruitless deaths. And just seeing the effects of one bomb already hit Nina so hard that she's started to redeem herself. Turning back and deciding to make more would make her current development pointless. Lelouch has never been close with Nina anyway.

Pfft, they were kind of the enemy, so I don't see why you shouldn't turn them into a tactical advantage if you were probably just gonna bulldoze through them anyway. And Pfft again, Zero Requiem cannot and should not be stopped. And what was the scene with Rivalz then, he wasn't that close but he still called her friend. She'll be fine, and I'll expect an apology for Lelouch after this is all over :p

he does care for them
thats why he pushes them away
he just happens to get it wrong as thats not what your suppose to do with friends

Well, sometimes you got to push your friends to the ground so that they don't get hit by a car. It'll hurt them for the moment but it gives them a better shot of living afterward. I personally would not want to drag anymore of my friends into such a mess myself anyway. >_>

[Darkcraft]

wtf? he even included Euphemia... :eyespin: insane
thats true i list euphemia.
that was i said evil list are subjective. thats why an argumentation have to come with it. Only having evil scheme is not the real point, you also need the capacity to be evil (nina need noone to blast a city for example) and there is also the propaganda and the final effects of your acts

Euphemia lived in a palace, never really get problems and a happy childhood. So nothing to explain she could have bad influence on the world like for example the childhood of Mao and CC or the shell-shocks of Charles and VV when they were youngs and saw their family in war

But she is too naive and her choices to help the world being a nicer place could have the revert effect cause she don't have full powers
Creating a small zone in a city where 1 million on the 120 millions of japanese(perhaps less in CG world) could live freely is like approving and legalising slavery, misery and race dominance in the rest of the country.
The immediate effects is a marketing that allowed the situation to perpetuate longer cause there ll be less resistance.
That why schneizel was 100% ok with this. Just remains what schneizel tell to Nina about country resistance after winning war in EU : the principles of Goebbles marketing
Euphemia done it for good reasons and thinking it ll have positive effects but that totally false and she was doing something bad to a very large population. In comparaison Mao have just dealt with threatening life of few people in comparaison

so evil is subjective and a schizo could be very harsh to few people ,and a nice girl could do bad thing for a long time to a very large population. Simple words can deal more damage than a schizo with a chainsaw

[Discerptor]

Pfft, they were kind of the enemy, so I don't see why you shouldn't turn them into a tactical advantage if you were probably just gonna bulldoze through them anyway. And Pfft again, Zero Requiem cannot and should not be stopped. And what was the scene with Rivalz then, he wasn't that close but he still called her friend. She'll be fine, and I'll expect an apology for Lelouch after this is all over :p

No, I was referring to the legion of mooks with FABULOUS uniforms and masks. How were they enemies again? Lelouch will never get an apology from me because (a) he's a fictional character, and (b) he hasn't emotionally matured past the age of eight and commits mass genocide to deal with Freudian abandonment issues... all while using BS reasons to make it sound better.

Well, sometimes you got to push your friends to the ground so that they don't get hit by a car. It'll hurt them for the moment but it gives them a better shot of living afterward. I personally would not want to drag anymore of my friends into such a mess myself anyway. >_>

Yeah, just like Shirley. That worked REALLY well for her :heh:

[KrimzonStriker]

No, I was referring to the legion of mooks with FABULOUS uniforms and masks. How were they enemies again? Lelouch will never get an apology from me because (a) he's a fictional character, and (b) he hasn't emotionally matured past the age of eight and commits mass genocide to deal with Freudian abandonment issues... all while using BS reasons to make it sound better.

How were they not? You don't really know that. I can imagine why they were though, cause he's not exactly 'popular' after ascending the throne amongst many in society. And so what if he's fictional, he's got worth either way or are you saying ideas don't matter because they aren't tangible? Pfft, he seems to be more ahead of the game then you if you're using such gross oversimplification about his goals, at the same time he has never intentionally committed mass genocide, especially not as a way to deal with his issues. As for his BS reasons, lets see you go through his life a little and see how much bull they really are. :rolleyes:

Yeah, just like Shirley. That worked REALLY well for her :heh:

Pfft, she just didn't know to stay down and not get back up. >_>

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Pfft, she just didn't know to stay down and not get back up. >_>

Quite fair enough, I'd say. Shirley did understand the danger of getting close to Lelouch but she still took the risk... and that ended badly for her <_<.

But to be fair, the whole "pushing away" thing hasn't been shown to be such a great idea in Code Geass on the whole. Charles did that with Nunnally and Lelouch, but that backfired in more than one way, because because he did it that way, it made Lelouch seek out revenge, thus placing both him and Nunnally in harm's way once more and effectively put a stop to his plans in the end, for example.. <_<.

[KrimzonStriker]

Quite fair enough, I'd say. Shirley did understand the danger of getting close to Lelouch but she still took the risk... and that ended badly for her <_<.

But to be fair, the whole "pushing away" thing hasn't been shown to be such a great idea in Code Geass on the whole. Charles did that with Nunnally and Lelouch, but that backfired in more than one way, because because he did it that way, it made Lelouch seek out revenge, thus placing both him and Nunnally in harm's way once more and effectively put a stop to his plans in the end, for example.. <_<.

Well, the difference on that last part was the one Lelouch put out in regards to how they went to war regardless of there being in Japan. In the end, I think he hit the nail on the head when he said it was just a means of satisfying their own conscious so that they could forget about him later. Unlike them, he's willing to take the brunt of what he has done and doesn't hide behind any excuses no matter how well justified his reasons may be, and that's what helps differentiate his character as a noble one at heart, an ability to forsake ones own benefit for the good of others >_>

[Revolutionist]

thats true i list euphemia.
that was i said evil list are subjective. thats why an argumentation have to come with it. Only having evil scheme is not the real point, you also need the capacity to be evil (nina need noone to blast a city for example) and there is also the propaganda and the final effects of your acts

Euphemia lived in a palace, never really get problems and a happy childhood. So nothing to explain she could have bad influence on the world like for example the childhood of Mao and CC or the shell-shocks of Charles and VV when they were youngs and saw their family in war

But she is too naive and her choices to help the world being a nicer place could have the revert effect cause she don't have full powers
Creating a small zone in a city where 1 million on the 120 millions of japanese(perhaps less in CG world) could live freely is like approving and legalising slavery, misery and race dominance in the rest of the country.
The immediate effects is a marketing that allowed the situation to perpetuate longer cause there ll be less resistance.
That why schneizel was 100% ok with this. Just remains what schneizel tell to Nina about country resistance after winning war in EU : the principles of Goebbles marketing
Euphemia done it for good reasons and thinking it ll have positive effects but that totally false and she was doing something bad to a very large population. In comparaison Mao have just dealt with threatening life of few people in comparaison

so evil is subjective and a schizo could be very harsh to few people ,and a nice girl could do bad thing for a long time to a very large population. Simple words can deal more damage than a schizo with a chainsaw

That still doesn't make Euphy a villain.

[Var]

Quite fair enough, I'd say. Shirley did understand the danger of getting close to Lelouch but she still took the risk... and that ended badly for her <_<.

But to be fair, the whole "pushing away" thing hasn't been shown to be such a great idea in Code Geass on the whole. Charles did that with Nunnally and Lelouch, but that backfired in more than one way, because because he did it that way, it made Lelouch seek out revenge, thus placing both him and Nunnally in harm's way once more and effectively put a stop to his plans in the end, for example.. <_<.

I'd find it ironic if Lelouch's plan fails as Kallen kills him. Kinda fits with the ever so revered gum lines. :heh:

[KrimzonStriker]

I'd find it ironic if Lelouch's plan fails as Kallen kills him. Kinda fits with the ever so revered gum lines. :heh:

Not going to happen, the Zero Requiem must sing its last orchestra and usher in the new world!! And not even Kouzkie goddamn Kallen is going to stop it I tell you, nor should she I feel :p

[Var]

Not going to happen, the Zero Requiem must sing its last orchestra and usher in the new world!! And not even Kouzkie goddamn Kallen is going to stop it :p

What if his entire plan is to fail? ;)

[KrimzonStriker]

What if his entire plan is to fail? ;)

Then damn her all to the red fires of hell!! What do you think the both Lelouch and Suzaku have been fighting for up till now? The personal reasons have gone out the window, all that's left is the dream. And damn it all if we let one chasted stalker of a girl ruin it >_>

[sLum]

thats true i list euphemia.
that was i said evil list are subjective. thats why an argumentation have to come with it. Only having evil scheme is not the real point, you also need the capacity to be evil (nina need noone to blast a city for example) and there is also the propaganda and the final effects of your acts

Euphemia lived in a palace, never really get problems and a happy childhood. So nothing to explain she could have bad influence on the world like for example the childhood of Mao and CC or the shell-shocks of Charles and VV when they were youngs and saw their family in war

But she is too naive and her choices to help the world being a nicer place could have the revert effect cause she don't have full powers
Creating a small zone in a city where 1 million on the 120 millions of japanese(perhaps less in CG world) could live freely is like approving and legalising slavery, misery and race dominance in the rest of the country.
The immediate effects is a marketing that allowed the situation to perpetuate longer cause there ll be less resistance.
That why schneizel was 100% ok with this. Just remains what schneizel tell to Nina about country resistance after winning war in EU : the principles of Goebbles marketing
Euphemia done it for good reasons and thinking it ll have positive effects but that totally false and she was doing something bad to a very large population. In comparaison Mao have just dealt with threatening life of few people in comparaison

so evil is subjective and a schizo could be very harsh to few people ,and a nice girl could do bad thing for a long time to a very large population. Simple words can deal more damage than a schizo with a chainsaw

You don't know what schizo's go through do you? Very harsh life they have absolutely no control over.
Also you realize you are saying that abolishing misery in just one area is bad right? That's completely delusional. Change comes with little bits and pieces, you won't convince the religious people that circular logic is wrong in one night. Euphy who was like many abolitionists which first tried to rid their own area of slavery before moving for a nationwide vote. Change comes with small things in reality. It's okay to be naive and help people, if you think that only intelligent beings can help the general populace you need to look at the pages of history.

[linkinstreet]

No, another member and I already established who's who. It's fact now.

Heero Yuy = Toudou
Duo Maxwell = Kallen
Trowa Barton = Lelouch
Quatre Winner = Rolo
Wu Fei = Li XingKe
Miliardo Peacecraft = Suzaku

This was based on a long discussion that involved character traits, crack pairings, mecha and the possibility of a "Code Geass: Endless Waltz" movie.
Relena Peacecraft = Lelouch
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Var]

Pfftt, if anyone is Milardo its Lelouch, Schneizel can be a more bloated and arrogant Trez <_<

What? Lelouch is Treize. There is no way Lelouch is that wasteful existance known as Miliardo. He stole the damn Talgese from Treize. :p

[Discerptor]

What? Lelouch is Treize. There is no way Lelouch is that wasteful existance known as Miliardo. He stole the damn Talgese from Treize. :p

Hm, I never even thought of them in those roles before, but Lelouch being Miliardo while Schneizel is Treize lines up if you consider that Lelouch stole the Gawain from Schneizel. :p

[KrimzonStriker]

What? Lelouch is Treize. There is no way Lelouch is that wasteful existance known as Miliardo. He stole the damn Talgese from Treize. :p

What were you watching? I mean, chastised Prince, sort of distance but caring relationship with sister but has ended up opposing her as well, has had both antagonistic but also fruitful relationships with the main gundam pilot (Heero, Suzaku).

You know what, Likes go for Mobile Suit Gundam instead. Char was better then Miliardo in my book anyway :p

[Var]

Hm, I never even thought of them in those roles before, but Lelouch being Miliardo while Schneizel is Treize lines up if you consider that Lelouch stole the Gawain from Schneizel. :p

No, no. I meant that Miliardo had no right to pilot the TIII after Treize used the TII. TIII was supposed to be used by Treize in the end of GW but he refused it, and took the purposefully inferior TII.

As for who matches who, Lelouch and the general plan, seems to match what Treize did and his general plan. I mean Schneizel is, more or less, exactly like Miliardo. 'If you ask me to be god, I will be'. Miliardo had a similar theme when the White Fang asked him to be the leader of the free people of space.

[sLum]

Gundam Wing and Code Geass are incompatible in comparisons, you'll have more luck with GSD.

[Discerptor]

I still like the matchup I posted here first best because it sets up the plot of Code Geass: Endless Waltz perfectly for when the niece of the REAL Lelouch Lamperouge shows up. And of course, Rolo would have to be Quatre... with the Zero System though. :p

[linkinstreet]

Gundam Wing and Code Geass are incompatible in comparisons, you'll have more luck with GSD.Dulindall? I lol'ed. And honestly I never found a characther more emo that shin after GSD. He took the Most Emo char title from Ikari Shinji without much fight

[KrimzonStriker]

No, no. I meant that Miliardo had no right to pilot the TIII after Treize used the TII. TIII was supposed to be used by Treize in the end of GW but he refused it, and took the purposefully inferior TII.

As for who matches who, Lelouch and the general plan, seems to match what Treize did and his general plan. I mean Schneizel is, more or less, exactly like Miliardo. 'If you ask me to be god, I will be'. Miliardo had a similar theme when the White Fang asked him to be the leader of the free people of space.

What was Treize plan exactly BTW? He kind of kept skipping around with his views and the like while always talking in riddles and made me confused on a number of occasions :heh:

[Discerptor]

What was Treize plan exactly BTW? He kind of kept skipping around with his views and the like while always talking in riddles and made me confused on a number of occasions :heh:

Zero Requiem.

[sLum]

Dulindall? I lol'ed. And honestly I never found a characther more emo that shin after GSD. He took the Most Emo char title from Ikari Shinji without much fight

Setsuna is much more "emo" but he's awesome so it doesn't count.

[Var]

What was Treize plan exactly BTW? He kind of kept skipping around with his views and the like while always talking in riddles and made me confused on a number of occasions :heh:

His plan was to get everyone fighting to realize the attrocities of war, the Mobile Dolls, the dehuminization of war, and to unite the world. He was a revolutionary, through and through. He used his own death as a means to unify space and the Earth, hence why he purposefully loses to Wufei who'm he could have easily wrecked had he a.) tried, b.) used the TIII.

It looks like its going to be, more or less, exactly what Lelouch and Suzaku are doing. Except Treize did not need: Geass.

[KrimzonStriker]

Zero Requiem.

Pfft, don't even go there Dis. Unlike with Trieze I'm capable of following this newest gambit from Lelouch pretty well so far <_<

His plan was to get everyone fighting to realize the attrocities of war, the Mobile Dolls, the dehuminization of war, and to unite the world. He was a revolutionary, through and through. He used his own death as a means to unify space and the Earth, hence why he purposefully loses to Wufei who'm he could have easily wrecked had he a.) tried, b.) used the TIII.

It looks like its going to be, more or less, exactly what Lelouch and Suzaku are doing. Except Treize did not need: Geass.

Hmm, okay, works for me then. I always did like Trieze more personally anyway, though I really wished he had killed Wu Fei and lost to someone else instead >_>

[eaglei3]

Gundam Wing and Code Geass are incompatible in comparisons, you'll have more luck with GSD.

Alright now... we already know Gino = Kira Voice Actor. If you want to seriously go that route with Gino Jesus Yamato, Kallen Zala, and Anya Clyne stopping the war... :heh:

[Discerptor]

Pfft, don't even go there Dis. Unlike with Trieze I'm capable of following this newest gambit from Lelouch pretty well so far <_<

But you don't even know anything about Zero Requiem other than its name. :heh:

[KrimzonStriker]

Alright now... we already know Gino = Kira Voice Actor. If you want to seriously go that route with Gino Jesus Yamato, Kallen Zala, and Anya Clyne stopping the war... :heh:

Pfft, he got owned in like two seconds. At this point, Suzaku's basically the pimp mecha pilot out there now >_>

But you don't even know anything about Zero Requiem other than its name. :heh:

I got a good hunch, I can fit the pieces easier then I did with Treize to say the least :p

[Discerptor]

I got a good hunch, I can fit the pieces easier then I did with Treize to say the least :p

Well, at least 3 factions either switching alliances, getting merged into others or dissolving every episode in GW didn't help matters. :p

[eaglei3]

Pfft, he got owned in like two seconds. At this point, Suzaku's basically the pimp mecha pilot out there now >_>


But Suzaku Asuka is supposed to own Gino Jesus Yamato the first time. Then Gino comes back in an upgraded version of his mech and never gets touched again. :heh:

[Var]

Hmm, okay, works for me then. I always did like Trieze more personally anyway, though I really wished he had killed Wu Fei and lost to someone else instead >_>

Treize's character created its own archetype for anime. As I've said before, if the Gundam Wing soap opera did anything, it was make Treize. I've seen so many anime characters try to be similar to Treize and fail so badly. He's more or less a superior version of Napoleon crossed with the ability to lead/con people of Hitler crossed with God. :heh:

He set up his death to Wu Fei in the early point of the season when he humiliated him in sword combat. :p

Well, at least 3 factions either switching alliances, getting merged into others or dissolving every episode in GW didn't help matters. :p

The best part is that when you realize that it was Treize pulling all the strings at the end when he takes power.

[KrimzonStriker]

Treize's character created its own archetype for anime. As I've said before, if the Gundam Wing soap opera did anything, it was make Treize. I've seen so many anime characters try to be similar to Treize and fail so badly. He's more or less a superior version of Napoleon crossed with the ability to lead/con people of Hitler crossed with God. :heh:

He set up his death to Wu Fei in the early point of the season when he humiliated him in sword combat. :p

Yeah, I know he's smart. I just didn't like Wu Fei is all <_<

The best part is that when you realize that it was Treize pulling all the strings at the end when he takes power.

Well if that's the case then I'm going to be looking forward to seeing how Zero Requiem plays out now ;)

[Kang Seung Jae]

Seems like some people just can't face the truth concerning interviews.

[KrimzonStriker]

Seems like some people just can't face the truth concerning interviews.

And seems others like to try multiplying nothing a little too hard, without realizing they ended up with nothing afterward :rolleyes:

[Kang Seung Jae]

And seems others like to try multiplying nothing a little too hard, without realizing they ended up with nothing afterward :rolleyes:

Just stating the fact that Kalulu isn't dead yet, even if it doesn't work out in the end.


Also, we all know the fate of C.C. ;)

[KrimzonStriker]

Just stating the fact that Kalulu isn't dead yet, even if it doesn't work out in the end.


Also, we all know the fate of C.C. ;)

Pfft, you guys are worst the cockroaches I tell you <_<

And pfft again, you're just bluffing, you don't know nothing. Your font is twitching, see? ;p

[Kang Seung Jae]

Pfft, you guys are worst the cockroaches I tell you <_<

And pfft again, you're just bluffing, you don't know nothing. Your font is twitching, see? ;p

*Chuckles*


Seems like I'll be pulling out my prophecies soon

[geewhiz]

*Chuckles*


Seems like I'll be pulling out my prophecies soon

Well we're ready whenever u are...

[Kang Seung Jae]

A food for thought: If Schneizel is a guy who needs to be pushed to do something, then did Nunnally do the pushing this time?

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/Code%20Geass/finalboss.png
Dark Nunnally has come. Run for your lives!

[Methuselah]

I'm no masochrist, but I wouldn't mind the brutality to gain her heart. XD

[KrimzonStriker]

*Chuckles*


Seems like I'll be pulling out my prophecies soon

Pfft, Fantasyland is a bit south from this direction Kang :p

[Kang Seung Jae]

Pfft, Fantasyland is a bit south from this direction Kang :p

I guess my 70+@ % ratings are not good enough for you.

[eaglei3]

Somebody just asked this question on another forum that I thought was rather intriguing.


So, Lelouch gives someone a Geass order to "Obey all my orders." Then after the geass is used and on a later day, tells them to "stop obeying him," but then gives them another order later on in the day. What happens to the person?

[Kang Seung Jae]

So, Lelouch gives someone a Geass order to "Obey all my orders." Then after the geass is used and on a later day, tells them to stop obeying him. but then gives them another order later on in the day. Does a time paradox occur?

I would say that Lelouch can either

1) Tell them to obey him again

2) Order them to never obey him again.



Problem solved.

[KrimzonStriker]

I guess my 70+@ % ratings are not good enough for you.

Statistics be damned, all will fall before the might of Cheese-kun :p

[eaglei3]

I would say that Lelouch can either

1) Tell them to obey him again

2) Order them to never obey him again.



Problem solved.

Not quite. If he told them to obey him again, they would break what the original Geass command was as they would have to ignore the "Don't obey me" order in order to obey him which would not be obeying all orders.

[morbosfist]

Somebody just asked this question on another forum that I thought was rather intriguing.

So, Lelouch gives someone a Geass order to "Obey all my orders." Then after the geass is used and on a later day, tells them to "stop obeying him," but then gives them another order later on in the day. What happens to the person?It would depend on the phrasing. The mind might just take it literally and never take orders from anyone ever, essentially rendering said person braindead. It could return them to normal. Finally, the later order after the "ignore me" one could override the first.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Statistics be damned, all will fall before the might of Cheese-kun :p

Tabatacchi has shown me the light.

[eaglei3]

I write it in a list format.

1) Lelouch Geasses a person with the command "Obey all of my orders."
2) Lelouch later orders the person to "Never obey my orders again."
3) Lelouch then when needing the person orders "Obey me again."

Line 3 would wipe out line 2, but that would go against the original command in line 1 as they would no longer be obeying all orders since they weren't following number 2. Would the person pretty much go braindead then since their mind would alternate between trying to do line 3, but then the Geass activating and forcing line 2, forcing a repeating argument with line 3?

[Kang Seung Jae]

I write it in a list format.

1) Lelouch Geasses a person with the command "Obey all of my orders."
2) Lelouch later orders the person to "Never obey my orders again."
3) Lelouch then when needing the person orders "Obey me again."

Line 3 would wipe out line 2, but that would go against the original command in line 1 as they would no longer be obeying all orders since they weren't following number 2. Would the person pretty much go braindead then since their mind would alternate between trying to do line 3, but then the Geass activating and forcing line 2, forcing a repeating argument with line 3?

In the case he had said "again" in Line 2, then Line 3 cannot override Line 2. However, if there was no "again", then Line 3 would probably override Line 2.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Great this is turning into iRobot...are we now dealing with Isacc's three laws?

[lightbringer]

Let's face it, this problem of obeying or not obeying orders won't ever come up because we have more important things to deal with in Code Geass, like Lelouch's hat or Kalulu shipping or Schneizel fabulousness.

[geewhiz]

I write it in a list format.

1) Lelouch Geasses a person with the command "Obey all of my orders."
2) Lelouch later orders the person to "Never obey my orders again."
3) Lelouch then when needing the person orders "Obey me again."

Line 3 would wipe out line 2, but that would go against the original command in line 1 as they would no longer be obeying all orders since they weren't following number 2. Would the person pretty much go braindead then since their mind would alternate between trying to do line 3, but then the Geass activating and forcing line 2, forcing a repeating argument with line 3?

I would have changed two to "never obey any future orders save the next time I command you to 'once again obey my wishes!'"

[eaglei3]

Let's face it, this problem of obeying or not obeying orders won't ever come up because we have more important things to deal with in Code Geass, like Lelouch's hat or Kalulu shipping or Schneizel fabulousness.

It's just theory talk since there is little to talk about right now.

I would have changed two to "never obey any future orders save the next time I command you to 'once again obey my wishes!'"

The point isn't to change the command to something that would work. I seriously want to know what would happen in the instance of what I said.

[yvj]

Let's face it, this problem of obeying or not obeying orders won't ever come up because we have more important things to deal with in Code Geass, like Lelouch's hat or Kalulu shipping or Schneizel fabulousness.

Well nothing can be beat the potent power of Schneizel's fabulousness.

[Sprite_Coke]

Omfg this is the most I've ever had to catch up on... I'll be around to talk after I get through 18 pages...

[Inferno Phoenyx]

It's just theory talk since there is little to talk about right now.



The point isn't to change the command to something that would work. I seriously want to know what would happen in the instance of what I said.

I think the command would make their heads explode.

[NoLongerSane]

Just a question, but does anyone know of the scheduling dates for the remaining episodes? I do not want to hear that they rescheduled the last two and make the fans wait til next year to show it like they did for R1.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Just a question, but does anyone know of the scheduling dates for the remaining episodes? I do not want to hear that they rescheduled the last two and make the fans wait til next year to show it like they did for R1.

There are no changes. It'll end in September.

[morbosfist]

Just a question, but does anyone know of the scheduling dates for the remaining episodes? I do not want to hear that they rescheduled the last two and make the fans wait til next year to show it like they did for R1.As far as anyone knows, they're on track to air each week as always.

[NoLongerSane]

Thank you for the clear up. In truth, that would be the worst thing that Sunrise could do to this series as of now.

[linkinstreet]

Just a question, but does anyone know of the scheduling dates for the remaining episodes? I do not want to hear that they rescheduled the last two and make the fans wait til next year to show it like they did for R1.http://tsukuru.info/r2/

[prototype_sky]

What if his entire plan is to fail? ;)

Everyone knows its about the arms race and right now lulu has 3 of the 4 weapon creators on his team. His plan will not fail whether he walks away in one piece is another story. I am pretty sure all of this was to hand britannia to UFN on a silver platter

[FoxxFireArt]

Seems like some people just can't face the truth concerning interviews.
Just stating the fact that Kalulu isn't dead yet, even if it doesn't work out in the end.

Also, we all know the fate of C.C. ;)

What is the truth?
Yes we learned that Kallen only realized that she loves Lelouch after they kiss. Before she was confused and unaware if what she felt was just strong loyalty. Now she knows, but she's in a position where she can't do anything about it.
What makes those quotes stronger is that it isn't Koshimizu Ami,s person opinion, but what the director told her the motivation is behind the scene. He's the one who ultimately controls the narrative.

Despite that being known. It doesn't really show that in the scene. It's also unclear if we will see her reaction to her realization in the next episode.
I would like to think we would, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Kang Seung Jae]

What is the truth?
Yes we learned that Kallen only realized that she loves Lelouch after they kiss. Before she was confused and unaware if what she felt was just strong loyalty. Now she knows, but she's in a position where she can't do anything about it.
What makes those quotes stronger is that it isn't Koshimizu Ami,s person opinion, but what the director told her the motivation is behind the scene. He's the one who ultimately controls the narrative.

Despite that being known. It doesn't really show that in the scene. It's also unclear if we will see her reaction to her realization in the next episode.
I would like to think we would, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm just "attacking" those that say Kalulu is dead. ;)

[leechbox]

Everyone knows its about the arms race and right now lulu has 3 of the 4 weapon creators on his team. His plan will not fail whether he walks away in one piece is another story. I am pretty sure all of this was to hand britannia to UFN on a silver platter

To be honest i thought he was going to unite the world and name it as one. So there will no longer be "oh im brtanian, or oh im japanese". But thats just a speculation. For all we know it can be anything.

Also nunnaly hovers the button, but doesnt press it. Then something intresting happens. "Do you know what snehizel has done?" lawl, now i know what it means...

[Sprite_Coke]

While we are on the discussion of "Death Flags" it is once again time for my updated Probability Chart! Some people are higher, some are lower, some remained the same. But here it is!

Probability of Death:
High
1. Xing-Ke- 100%
2. Nonette- 100% (sorry Dream_Traveller...)
3. Jeremiah- 85%
4. Chiba- 75%
5. Minami- 75%
6. Sugiyama- 75%
7. Kanon- 75%
8. C.C.- 70%
9. Toudou- 70%
10. Deithard- 70%
11. Lelouch- 65%
12. Suzaku- 65%
13. Gino- 65%
14. Anya- 60%
Mid
15. Nina- 55%
16. Lloyd- 55%
17. Cecile- 55%
18. Schneizel- 50%
19. Kallen- 50%
20. Nunnally- 50%
21. Cornelia- 50%
22. Kaguya- 50%
23. Ougi- 45%
24. Sayoko- 40%
25. Rakshata- 40%
Low
26. Tainzi- 20%
27. Villetta- 20%
28. Milly- 15%
29. Rivalz- 15%
30. Tamaki- 10%
Woot go Tamaki, still catching up, like 7 pages to go.

[Skellington2612]

While we are on the discussion of "Death Flags" it is once again time for my updated Probability Chart! Some people are higher, some are lower, some remained the same. But here it is!

Probability of Death:
High
1. Xing-Ke- 100%
2. Nonette- 100% (sorry Dream_Traveller...)
3. Jeremiah- 85%
4. Chiba- 75%
5. Minami- 75%
6. Sugiyama- 75%
7. Kanon- 75%
8. C.C.- 70%
9. Toudou- 70%
10. Deithard- 70%
11. Lelouch- 65%
12. Suzaku- 65%
13. Gino- 65%
14. Anya- 60%
Mid
15. Nina- 55%
16. Lloyd- 55%
17. Cecile- 55%
18. Schneizel- 50%
19. Kallen- 50%
20. Nunnally- 50%
21. Cornelia- 50%
22. Kaguya- 50%
23. Ougi- 45%
24. Sayoko- 40%
25. Rakshata- 40%
Low
26. Tainzi- 20%
27. Villetta- 20%
28. Milly- 15%
29. Rivalz- 15%
30. Tamaki- 10%

I guess we can completely and securely say that Villeta is the only one with a 0% probability of dying... since she´s pregnant....

[Sprite_Coke]

LOL if we want to do a "villainous ranking" then:

1. Eunuchs
2. Mao
3. VV
4. Schneizel
5. Charles

Any other perspectives?

villainous ranking is subjective
mine ll be
1 Nina
2 Schneizel
3 Charles
4 Cornelia
5 Euphemia

Mine is
1. Ohgi
2. Nina
3. Charles
4. Lelouch (be honest, he wants to destroy the world)
5. V.V.

still 5 pgs to go

[Witacume]

I guess we can completely and securely say that Villeta is the only one with a 0% probability of dying... since she´s pregnant....

not really Ougi can be super emo revenge ougi if she somehow dies XD

[Skellington2612]

not really Ougi can be super emo revenge ougi if she somehow dies XD

Why make her pregnant then?? if she dies alone he will go insane.. no need to add a child and then he´s already a side character(more than before) so I don´t see them killing a pregnant Villeta... maybe Ougi...

[Worriors1]

I guess we can completely and securely say that Villeta is the only one with a 0% probability of dying... since she´s pregnant....

I really hope your joking.
PREGNANCY?

In CODE GEASS? The show were the good die young?

Psh, she's dead next turn for sure..

[FoxxFireArt]

I'm just "attacking" those that say Kalulu is dead. ;)
yeah, why would the director point out that she realizes it's love she feels only after she kissed him, but we have to be cautious, because though we know that from the directors notes that hasn't been shown in the series.
It will be interesting to see Kallen's scene next episode.

Either way we know Suzaku and Kallen will fight in episode 24.

What if his entire plan is to fail? ;)
I think it probably is intended to fail. If he really wanted control of the UFN all he had to do was bring in his troops and forcibly Geass the lot of them. He had control of the area.
A requiem is a song played at a wake for the dead.

[linkinstreet]

Mine is
1. Ohgi
2. Nina
3. Charles
4. Lelouch (be honest, he wants to destroy the world)
5. V.V.

still 5 pgs to goReally? For me he wants to stop Schneizel doing it

[Sprite_Coke]

Finally caught up, so what's everyone talking about? :)

[Kushi]

What!? Villetta is pregnant? Have I miss something insanely important? o_o

[Witacume]

yeah, why would the director point out that she realizes it's love she feels only after she kissed him, but we have to be cautious, because though we know that from the directors notes that hasn't been shown in the series.
It will be interesting to see Kallen's scene next episode.

Either way we know Suzaku and Kallen will fight in episode 24.


I think it probably is intended to fail. If he really wanted control of the UFN all he had to do was bring in his troops and forcibly Geass the lot of them. He had control of the area.
A requiem is a song played at a wake for the dead.

i wonder who told you that XD
anyways i think i already posted my theory.
I will be finishing my piece hopefully tonight

[Var]

What!? Villetta is pregnant? Have I miss something insanely important? o_o

Yes! The world is on fire! OMGZOR!!!

But seriously, yes, Viletta is reported pregnant.

[linkinstreet]

I think it probably is intended to fail. If he really wanted control of the UFN all he had to do was bring in his troops and forcibly Geass the lot of them. He had control of the area.
A requiem is a song played at a wake for the dead.he never really wanted to join UFN. He just wants them to hate him

[Worriors1]

Yes! The world is on fire! OMGZOR!!!

But seriously, yes, Viletta is reported pregnant.

:heh:

When? Was this on a magazine or something? I kinda wanna see the post if it was posted anywhere; or whoever said so.

[Sprite_Coke]

I don't give a damn if she's pregnant, Ohgi needs to die. Let the baby suffer and become a bastard. Ohgi and all of his future descendants needs to suffer and die.

[Skellington2612]

I really hope your joking.
PREGNANCY?

In CODE GEASS? The show were the good die young?

Psh, she's dead next turn for sure..

No she´s not... unless we get a long month gap... Koshimizu said so in a mag... go and look for her posts...

[Vakir]

Omfg this is the most I've ever had to catch up on... I'll be around to talk after I get through 18 pages...

Aren't you going to feel shitty when you realize you didn't really miss anything.

[Micante]

I really hope your joking.
PREGNANCY?

In CODE GEASS? The show were the good die young?

Psh, she's dead next turn for sure..

Lelouch realizes this so he's trying to act evil to stay alive until he can unveil his master plan to donate to charity. :heh:

[linkinstreet]

What!? Villetta is pregnant? Have I miss something insanely important? o_oMagazine spoilers

[Kang Seung Jae]

Yes! The world is on fire! OMGZOR!!!

But seriously, yes, Viletta is reported pregnant.

The only question I have with this: How many months?

[Var]

:heh:

When? Was this on a magazine or something? I kinda wanna see the post if it was posted anywhere; or whoever said so.

Look through Koshimizu's posts, her post log is relatively short so you'll find it quickly. :p

The only question I have with this: How many months?

Clearly around 0.

[linkinstreet]

Look through Koshimizu's posts, her post log is relatively
Clearly around 0.1 or 2. Must be during the time he was being targeted by Sayoko and during the 1 month gap

[Var]

1 or 2. Must be during the time he was being targeted by Sayoko and during the 1 month gap

Forgot the time skip, right so it'd be around 1, likely. I doubt it was before then.

[prototype_sky]

To be honest i thought he was going to unite the world and name it as one. So there will no longer be "oh im brtanian, or oh im japanese". But thats just a speculation. For all we know it can be anything.

Also nunnaly hovers the button, but doesnt press it. Then something intresting happens. "Do you know what snehizel has done?" lawl, now i know what it means...

Isn't conquering countries and assigning them numbers to remove nationality what the brittiannians were doing originally?

[Revolutionist]

Treize's character created its own archetype for anime. As I've said before, if the Gundam Wing soap opera did anything, it was make Treize. I've seen so many anime characters try to be similar to Treize and fail so badly. He's more or less a superior version of Napoleon crossed with the ability to lead/con people of Hitler crossed with God. :heh:

He set up his death to Wu Fei in the early point of the season when he humiliated him in sword combat. :p



The best part is that when you realize that it was Treize pulling all the strings at the end when he takes power.

Hehe, someone who understands my favorite character of all time this well!

[youngde]

Isn't conquering countries and assigning them numbers to remove nationality what the brittiannians were doing originally?

I think what he was getting at was making everyone a single nationality with equal rights. The Brittannian way of doing things still divided people into Britannians, Honorary Britannians and Numbers.

[FoxxFireArt]

:heh:

When? Was this on a magazine or something? I kinda wanna see the post if it was posted anywhere; or whoever said so.

Check Koshimizu's posts. She posted a scan that reported Villetta is with child.
It's not unusual. If anything it's expected. With a series that has had so much death it was about time it had some life. Just too bad it's Ougi and Villetta. Not surprising though. They are the only couple that has been intimate. Everyone else has just danced around each other. As much as Chiba irritates me at times I would like things to work out for her. It's cute how girlie she is with Toudo. Like she's all ready to be his wife.

[Kang Seung Jae]

As much as Chiba irritates me at times I would like things to work out for her. It's cute how girlie she is with Toudo. Like she's all ready to be his wife.

We'll probably see something in episode 23 for Chiba :D


Spring will surely come to her.

[Var]

We'll probably see something in episode 23 for Chiba :D


Spring will surely come to her.

And then she'll die...

Or Todou...

Or if both survive, their child will be hit by a bus driven by the son of the Glaston Knight Todou kills.

[Kang Seung Jae]

And then she'll die...

Or Todou...

Or if both survive, their child will be hit by a bus driven by the son of the Glaston Knight Todou kills.

You're too evil :heh:

[Micante]

And then she'll die...

Or Todou...

Or if both survive, their child will be hit by a bus driven by the son of the Glaston Knight Todou kills.

Sucks to be in this anime. ;O

[morbosfist]

And then she'll die...

Or Todou...

Or if both survive, their child will be hit by a bus driven by the son of the Glaston Knight Todou kills.Epicly dark. I'd rep if I could.

[Worriors1]

Ah, sorry about disappearing, I had to go take a shower. So sorry if I offended anyone by doing that, :heh:

Anyways, thanks. I couldn't find the right post, but I found enough to confirm it, so..

Yeah..

Back on topic.

[linkinstreet]

And then she'll die...

Or Todou...

Or if both survive, their child will be hit by a bus driven by the son of the Glaston Knight Todou kills.Or Todou discovers it was never their child, but Asahina's

[Worriors1]

Or Todou discovers it was never their child, but Asahina's

Asahina doesn't deserve a child. I mean, I don't hate him, but come on; the dude was the person that assisted in leading the Order to betray and put Rolo offically on the death train.

Then Lelouch got the crap beat out him. I mean.. Gosh..

Anything but his child..

[Skellington2612]

Or Todou discovers it was never their child, but Asahina's

Asahina is dead.. maybe is Tamaki´s child??

[Micante]

Asahina is dead.. maybe is Tamaki´s child??

It's Ougi's child, to add more to drama to Ougi and Viletta's relationship.

[Worriors1]

Asahina is dead.. maybe is Tamaki´s child??

"She's so hiiiiiiigh~,
high above me,
she's so lovely
She's so hiiiigh~
Like Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, or Aphrodiiiiiite
She's so hiiiiiiighh~
High above me."

[scifijimmy]

Why make her pregnant then?? if she dies alone he will go insane.. no need to add a child and then he´s already a side character(more than before) so I don´t see them killing a pregnant Villeta... maybe Ougi...

No wonder she still hanging around Ougi and the Black Knights after revealing Zero was a member of Britannian Royalty with the power to hypnotize anyone into doing something. She clearly staying around for the UFN's superior health plan.:heh:

[Kang Seung Jae]

Asahina is dead.. maybe is Tamaki´s child??

.................

I just remembered a doujinshi where Tamaki does.... something to Chigusa.

[Micante]

.................

I just remembered a doujinshi where Tamaki does.... something to Chigusa.

You really need to lay off the doujins for your own good. :heh:

[LBritannia]

Hey people, now that I think about it, C.C. is probably set to diein Zero Requiem. Why would C.C. follow Lelouch still? Because they have already agreed to fullfil their contract at some point in the future.

[Kang Seung Jae]

You really need to lay off the doujins for your own good. :heh:

I can't. I'm a major doujinshi dealer in Korea, and it's the bloodline for my Code Geass Stuff.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

I don't get it is there a point for Villette to be pregnant or is it just the show's way of messing with us and then axing her and Ougi off?

[Micante]

I can't. I'm a major doujinshi dealer in Korea, and it's the bloodline for my Code Geass Stuff.

:O How does doujinshi dealing work? Online or in conventions and stuff?

[Worriors1]

I don't get it is there a point for Villette to be pregnant or is it just the show's way of messing with us and then axing her and Ougi off?

*Coughshecouldalwayshaveanabortionbecauseshe'sthat evilcough*

:twitch:

I never, EVER said that.

They probably will kill her, or they'll have Ougi die for her then she'll raise the child herself. I mean, if the Intelligence Department will still accept her, she can always go back to running that as her job. It's a plus since she won't be COMPLETELY jobless..

[Koshimizu]

Speaking of Tamaki....

Interview in this month's Voice Newtype.

Question: Anything you want to speculate about the ending?
Kazunari Tanaka (Tamaki): Please, director Taniguchi, give Tamaki some romance!
Koshimizu Ami (Kallen): You touch Tianzi and Xingke will slice you on the spot!
All: That's a great way to die. *laughs*

[youngde]

Hey people, now that I think about it, C.C. is probably set to diein Zero Requiem. Why would C.C. follow Lelouch still? Because they have already agreed to fullfil their contract at some point in the future.

Part of me wonders if C.C. is really happy with this plan. She seemed pretty down/nervous at the end of episode 20. I wonder if she's just pretending to go along with the plan, especially if it involves Lelouch sacrificing himself. I could see her throwing a wrench in the plan in order to save Lelouch from himself if that's the case. I think she cares more about Lelouch than fulfilling the contract (at least since episode 20, otherwise she would have disappeared).

[lovecakecookies]

Speaking of Tamaki....

Interview in this month's Voice Newtype.

Question: Anything you want to speculate about the ending?
Kazunari Tanaka (Tamaki): Please, director Taniguchi, give Tamaki some romance!
Koshimizu Ami (Kallen): You touch Tianzi and Xingke will slice you on the spot!
All: That's a great way to die. *laughs*

LMAO.. THats hilarious!!! poor TAmaki.. I want him to find some happiness too..:p

[Kang Seung Jae]

:O How does doujinshi dealing work? Online or in conventions and stuff?

Mainly online..


Speaking of Tamaki....

Interview in this month's Voice Newtype.

Question: Anything you want to speculate about the ending?
Kazunari Tanaka (Tamaki): Please, director Taniguchi, give Tamaki some romance!
Koshimizu Ami (Kallen): You touch Tianzi and Xingke will slice you on the spot!
All: That's a great way to die. *laughs*

Koshimizu Ami, you really have a great sense of humor.

[FoxxFireArt]

We'll probably see something in episode 23 for Chiba :D

Spring will surely come to her.
Well, that's a tad obvious.

Speaking of Tamaki....

Interview in this month's Voice Newtype.

Question: Anything you want to speculate about the ending?
Kazunari Tanaka (Tamaki): Please, director Taniguchi, give Tamaki some romance!
Koshimizu Ami (Kallen): You touch Tianzi and Xingke will slice you on the spot!
All: That's a great way to die. *laughs*
I love the fact that Tamaki has yet to realize he's a glorified janitor.
There are always the bridge bunnies, but he'd have better luck with someone of lower status. :p
Part of me wonders if C.C. is really happy with this plan. She seemed pretty down/nervous at the end of episode 20. I wonder if she's just pretending to go along with the plan, especially if it involves Lelouch sacrificing himself. I could see her throwing a wrench in the plan in order to save Lelouch from himself if that's the case. I think she cares more about Lelouch than fulfilling the contract (at least since episode 20, otherwise she would have disappeared).
Well, we don't really know the details behind Zero's Requiem, but following how the plan is moving it can't be good for any of them.
People keep speculating that Gino and Kallen will be motivated to save Suzaku and Lelouch. Though doesn't Kallen fight Suzaku in episode 24. Doesn't that goal kind of conflict with Gino's goal.
Also how do they know those two need to be rescued from themselves.
Someone would have to fill them in about what is planned and I don't see who could do that. Maybe C.C., but I doubt that. I don't see where her motivation is to stop the plan. Should be interesting to see what is going to happen since we see her walking to that pink Lancelot. Only times she has gone out to battle in a KMF is to further the plot. The slaughter of the Order and the fight in China that showed us a glimpse of Anya's connection to Marianne.
I wonder what could happen this time?

[NoLongerSane]

I am gone for a few hours and now there is word of Villetta expecting. Where did this come from?

Plus, speaking of doujins, where is one dealing with Monica? I mean we have those that have Kallen, C.C., Villetta, Cornilla, and the loli's. Where are the ones with Dorothea, Monica, and Nonette? Nevermind Nonette, but when we will be seeing the ones with Monica and Dorothea?

[Skellington2612]

I don't get it is there a point for Villette to be pregnant or is it just the show's way of messing with us and then axing her and Ougi off?

Or maybe is their way to atone for the love they´re not going to give us with the major characters... I would hate that

FoxxFire where are your 4komas coming out??

[Kang Seung Jae]

I am gone for a few hours and now there is word of Villetta expecting. Where did this come from?

Plus, speaking of doujins, where is one dealing with Monica? I mean we have those that have Kallen, C.C., Villetta, Cornilla, and the loli's. Where are the ones with Dorothea, Monica, and Nonette? Nevermind Nonette, but when we will be seeing the ones with Monica and Dorothea?

There's a Monica one in the works, but the rest of the KoR are being ignored as far as I know.

[Micante]

Mainly online.

Ah, I see. Most Doujinshis I came across gave me a really good laugh from various facial expressions and other details causing me to miss the whole point of them completely. :heh:

[scifijimmy]

Or maybe is their way to atone for the love they´re not going to give us with the major characters... I would hate that?

FoxxFire where are your 4komas coming out??

Foxxfire latest 4komas work in code geass is out. Let's just hope it's not the last.;)

[linkinstreet]

There's a Monica one in the works, but the rest of the KoR are being ignored as far as I know.I wonder if there would be a dorothea one...

[FoxxFireArt]

Or maybe is their way to atone for the love they´re not going to give us with the major characters... I would hate that

FoxxFire where are your 4komas coming out??

My 4komas can be found n my devArt gallery
http://foxxfireart.deviantart.com/

[Worriors1]

I wonder if there would be a dorothea one...

Dorothea, I thought, was an interesting woman of five seconds. I think I'll put her in my second, KoR crack-fic. She seems neat enough.

There should be though.. Too bad I would never read it, :heh:

[NoLongerSane]

Dorothea, I thought, was an interesting woman of five seconds. I think I'll put her in my second, KoR crack-fic. She seems neat enough.

There should be though.. Too bad I would never read it, :heh:

I am amazed that Sunrise had a seiyuu assigned to the Dorothea character but have yet allowed Nonnette to say a single line in the episodes she has been featured.

Plus, which circle is doing Monica may I ask?

[Micante]

Dorothea, I thought, was an interesting woman of five seconds. I think I'll put her in my second, KoR crack-fic. She seems neat enough.

There should be though.. Too bad I would never read it, :heh:

Hmm... KOR crack-fics...

Are you AdventureElia, someone else on fanfiction or don't go to fanfiction? :O

[lovecakecookies]

I am amazed that Sunrise had a seiyuu assigned to the Dorothea character but have yet allowed Nonnette to say a single line in the episodes she has been featured.

Plus, which circle is doing Monica may I ask?

I really think that they probably had plans for these characters, but due to time constraints, they probably had to skip it all...

[linkinstreet]

Hmm... KOR crack-fics...

Are you AdventureElia, someone else on fanfiction or don't go to fanfiction? :Ospeaking of fanfiction. i saw a massive surge of Kalulu's fanfic on fanfic.net the other day after ep 22

[youngde]

Well, we don't really know the details behind Zero's Requiem, but following how the plan is moving it can't be good for any of them.
People keep speculating that Gino and Kallen will be motivated to save Suzaku and Lelouch. Though doesn't Kallen fight Suzaku in episode 24. Doesn't that goal kind of conflict with Gino's goal.
Also how do they know those two need to be rescued from themselves.
Someone would have to fill them in about what is planned and I don't see who could do that. Maybe C.C., but I doubt that. I don't see where her motivation is to stop the plan. Should be interesting to see what is going to happen since we see her walking to that pink Lancelot. Only times she has gone out to battle in a KMF is to further the plot. The slaughter of the Order and the fight in China that showed us a glimpse of Anya's connection to Marianne.
I wonder what could happen this time?

I'm just saying that C.C. might want to stop the plan if it involves Lelouch dying. And if she does, the person she would be most likely to reach out to is Kallen. Other than Lelouch, Kallen is the only character that has ever really connected with C.C. on a personal level.

And there are a few other people that might be able to help Kallen/Gino figure out what Lelouch/Suzaku are up to. Assuming that Rival/Milly know what Nina was working on, they might provide some information as to why Lelouch would want her, which might give some insight into his plan (I'm, of course, assuming that they can contact Kallen/Gino. It's possible since Gino is a current member of the Student Council.) Also, there is Anya or Sayoko, who apparently escaped from Schneizel. Either one could provide information about Schneizel that would illuminate what Lelouch/Suzaku are up to.

Granted we do know that Kallen and Suzaku fight in episode 24, but we don't know the reason. It could be that Kallen is trying to stop their plan to save Lelouch and Suzaku from themselves.

Although, I'll admit, this is just speculation based on what I know so far. I've been wrong about where this series is going so often by now, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if not a single thing written above is true. We'll just have to see.

youngde, signing off.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Plus, which circle is doing Monica may I ask?

Some obscure Korean circle. You're better off not knowing.