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X_Danny_X
2008-09-04, 08:46
one about Suzaku too? what is about? does Suzaku and Kallen stories overlap each other?
El_Negro
2008-09-04, 08:50
one about Suzaku too? what is about? does Suzaku and Kallen stories overlap each other?
That manga basically is more or less from Suzaku's perspective concerning the Britiannia vs the Black Knights, they even changed Lloyd and Cecile and replaced them with two other characters :heh:
probably since he's still fighting 4 Britiannia thus going against the Black Knights so Kallen might be a major enemy concerning the manga plot-line
A speculation: If Luciano had a unit of personal bodyguards composed of young women between the age of 15 and 25, then what would the pilots of Monica's squad be like? Shotas?
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/Code%20Geass/th_monicakmf.png (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/jin0014/Code%20Geass/monicakmf.png)
A bunch of bald and bearded beefcake? :heh: as all the fan demographics aren't yet covered...
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:00
You seem to forget that those guys are the Royal Guard that got jumped by those Sutherlands. Hence, they're dead.
Well, all the kids that V.V. had in the Cult had to go somewhere... Why does V.V. only recruit little kids for Geass anyways? Does V.V. have a soft spot for orpahns?
I think they were all "material" to build the Tought Elevator.
ZeroSama
2008-09-04, 09:07
You seem to forget that those guys are the Royal Guard that got jumped by those Sutherlands. Hence, they're dead.
Hopefully lelouch will get a slightly better Royal guards than the last guy. Actually screw that why were the old Royal guard such a bunch of pissants? I mean they got beaten by guys in inferior machines. Dump the Royal guard Lelouch and make the KoR's do what they were originally meant to do, guard your ass.
Do you believe lelouch will continue to go out and fight on the front lines now he is Emperor? Since its part of his philosphy that the King must move or no-one will follow i hope he continues too or i'll be very angry with taniguchi for borked his character.
I think they were all "material" to build the Tought Elevator.
When Lelouch destroyed the thought evevator, it seems that it was made of children shadows/bodies, so I think you're right :uhoh:
Pink-chan
2008-09-04, 09:11
I'm thinking if there are many other surviving orphans with Geass out on a mission hence avoiding the massacre Lelouch ordered. Maybe I shouldn't read too much about it at this moment. There couldn't be only Rolo who was being sent out on mission.
Why will Lelouch joins the UFN? To link all parts of the world as one. The BK wanted him dead :heh:. Now Zero is the emperor of the enemy country. Is Japan returned to the BK? According to the co-relative chart, (old) Area 11 is now known as Japan
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8764/correlativefh0.th.gif (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=correlativefh0.gif)
Lelouch and Suzaku are still labeled as 'ex-friends'. I thought they should have some sort of deal behind the scene. Not that they are reconciled
Hopefully lelouch will get a slightly better Royal guards than the last guy. Actually screw that why were the old Royal guard such a bunch of pissants? I mean they got beaten by guys in inferior machines. Dump the Royal guard Lelouch and make the KoR's do what they were originally meant to do, guard your ass.
Do you believe lelouch will continue to go out and fight on the front lines now he is Emperor? Since its part of his philosphy that the King must move or no-one will follow i hope he continues too or i'll be very angry with taniguchi for borked his character.
Don't forget they were caught in "friendly fire": their supposedly allies stabbed them in the back.
There's no use being in command of an Abrams if your gunner stabs you in the back with a pocket knife. ;)
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 09:13
I'm thinking if there are many other surviving orphans with Geass out on a mission hence avoiding the massacre Lelouch ordered. Maybe I shouldn't read too much about it at this moment. There couldn't be only Rolo who was being sent out on mission.
Why will Lelouch joins the UFN? To link all parts of the world as one. The BK wanted him dead :heh:. Now Zero is the emperor of the enemy country. Is Japan returned to the BK? According to the co-relative chart, (old) Area 11 is now known as Japan
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8764/correlativefh0.th.gif (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=correlativefh0.gif)
the OOBK wanted zero dead
now zero is dead
and while it is very sad its better this way
zero was too big for such a complex world and now that he is gone we can all put the past behind us and move on to greater things
like world peace
and as it just so happens the new emperor of britannia (nice guy , great hat, cant help but think he reminds me of someone) is just the guy to talk to
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:14
The Royal Guard weren't pissants. They had no idea that ordering their own men to destroy the enemy would lead to a revolt and their subsequent demise.
And the Rounds haven't done a stellar job this season of...well...being aces. Save for Luciano for being awesome and Anya, too, for being awesome, and being the only Rounds so far to face off against Bismarck. Suzaku'll follow in her footsteps.
Why will Lelouch joins the UFN? To link all parts of the world as one. The BK wanted him dead :heh:. Now Zero is the emperor of the enemy country. Is Japan returned to the BK? According to the co-relative chart, (old) Area 11 is now known as Japan
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8764/correlativefh0.th.gif (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=correlativefh0.gif)
Ougi made an agreement with schneizel before betraying Zero. The deal was:
- The BK betrays Zero if Japan is returned to the BK.
Pink-chan
2008-09-04, 09:15
the OOBK wanted zero dead
now zero is dead
and while it is very sad its better this way
zero was too big for such a complex world and now that he is gone we can all put the past behind us and move on to greater things
like world peace
I will love to see the scene where Lelouch negotiate with the BK. BK should feel awkward :heh:
Ougi made an agreement with schneizel before betraying Zero. The deal was:
- The BK betrays Zero if Japan is returned to the BK.
They didn't manage to kill Zero.
X_Danny_X
2008-09-04, 09:18
That manga basically is more or less from Suzaku's perspective concerning the Britiannia vs the Black Knights, they even changed Lloyd and Cecile and replaced them with two other characters :heh:
probably since he's still fighting 4 Britiannia thus going against the Black Knights so Kallen might be a major enemy concerning the manga plot-line
if you were not able to find it, where did you read about it since you know what is about? also do you know what Kallen's novel is about?
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:18
Hopefully lelouch will get a slightly better Royal guards than the last guy. Actually screw that why were the old Royal guard such a bunch of pissants? I mean they got beaten by guys in inferior machines. Dump the Royal guard Lelouch and make the KoR's do what they were originally meant to do, guard your ass.
Do you believe lelouch will continue to go out and fight on the front lines now he is Emperor? Since its part of his philosphy that the King must move or no-one will follow i hope he continues too or i'll be very angry with taniguchi for borked his character.
That would be a benefit for Lelouch if it were not for the fact that the remaining Knights of the Round are with the second prince. As for Lelouch's possible new Royal guards, they are pretty much fodder for the KotR until their numbers are called. Also, I really like the Monica pic with the Royal Guards.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:19
And you mean to say that the remaining Rounds with the exception of Anya and Suzaku and possibly Gino aren't fodder themselves?
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:24
It would depend. I really like Monica's design and mystery to her character. As for Bismark, I grown to enjoy his character. Plus, I do hope that his Knightmare is released as a model kit.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 09:26
That would be a benefit for Lelouch if it were not for the fact that the remaining Knights of the Round are with the second prince. As for Lelouch's possible new Royal guards, they are pretty much fodder for the KotR until their numbers are called. Also, I really like the Monica pic with the Royal Guards.
Justification for Lelouch having two pilots and knightmares that can eat KoRs alive! :heh:
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:27
There...really isn't any mystery. She's a gentle woman outside of battle who's fierce inside of it. A simple baby-faced killer. That's it.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:32
Well, hopefully we get to see her skills in the upcoming episodes. As for this weeks upcoming episode, it looks like Bismark is the KotR that is going to be crucified for the sake of the plot. Also, from the looks of the preview, we are going to be treated to one of Suzaku's sanctimonious speeches before Bismark is done in.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:34
Lelouch 'wipes out the dissidents'. Nonette, Monica, Bismarck and Gino (though he'll probably live) are said dissidents.
ZeroSama
2008-09-04, 09:37
They didn't manage to kill Zero.
Yes and now they have to depend on the mercy of the person they tried to gank. Funny how lelouchs expression when the OotBK turned on him was almost completely mirrored by the OotBK's reaction to his proclamation as Emperor, a mixture of shock, disbelief, WTF and we be screwed/doomed.
If i was lelouch and was feeling particularly cruel i'd head to Area 11 with the majority of the army just for the lulz to put the fear of god into all of them:heh:. Can you just picture their reactions when they know that not only are they figthing Zero, but as far as their concerned he's a little pissed with them, has a brought a huge army along with the awesome power of spin for good measure. I think i'd be running for the hills or hiding in some caves.
Pity judging from the spoilers its not going to happen:(.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 09:38
the KOR plus some mooks (the preview shows a redar screen full of enemys getting pwnd)
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:39
Lelouch 'wipes out the dissidents'. Nonette, Monica, Bismarck and Gino (though he'll probably live) are said dissidents.
So by indication, what you are saying is that by this week's episode the Knights of the Round are no more. I was hoping that KotR would last at least two more episodes. Hopefully they take out quite a few of Lelouch's Royal guards before being done in by the Knight of Zero himself.
If i was lelouch and was feeling particularly cruel i'd head to Area 11 with the majority of the army just for the lulz to put the fear of god into all of them:heh:. Can you just picture their reactions when they know that not only are they figthing Zero, but as far as their concerned he's a little pissed with them, has a brought a huge army along with the awesome power of spin for good measure. I think i'd be running for the hills or hiding in some caves.
But It's Lelouch XD. The man who managed to forgive Suzaku X times because he is his friend. And who will forgive all the bad things that C.C. has done :D
So he will forgive Ougi, I'm sure :D
ZeroSama
2008-09-04, 09:42
Well, hopefully we get to see her skills in the upcoming episodes. As for this weeks upcoming episode, it looks like Bismark is the KotR that is going to be crucified for the sake of the plot. Also, from the looks of the preview, we are going to be treated to one of Suzaku's sanctimonious speeches before Bismark is done in.
Bismarks probably not to happy with lelouch after he had a good old gloat on international television over killing his old man. Probably going to after his head. Owe well lelouch has Suzaku and the Hax Lancelot Albion as back-up so Bismark's fucked:D.
Pink-chan
2008-09-04, 09:43
Yes and now they have to depend on the mercy of the person they tried to gank. Funny how lelouchs expression when the OotBK turned on him was almost completely mirrored by the OotBK's reaction to his proclamation as Emperor, a mixture of shock, disbelief, WTF and we be screwed/doomed.
If i was lelouch and was feeling particularly cruel i'd head to Area 11 with the majority of the army just for the lulz to put the fear of god into all of them:heh:. Can you just picture their reactions when they know that not only are they figthing Zero, but as far as their concerned he's a little pissed with them, has a brought a huge army along with the awesome power of spin for good measure. I think i'd be running for the hills or hiding in some caves.
Pity judging from the spoilers its not going to happen:(.
Yup, I agree with you. It will be funny to see how Zero turned the table against the group he used to lead. If it wasn't for him, the BK wouldn't be what it is today.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:44
So by indication, what you are saying is that by this week's episode the Knights of the Round are no more. I was hoping that KotR would last at least two more episodes. Hopefully they take out quite a few of Lelouch's Royal guards before being done in by the Knight of Zero himself.
Probably all but Suzaku and Anya and maybe Gino, yes. So much for them being stellar pilots. And who gives a care about Royal Guards and if Lelouch will ever appoint any? It's not as if they're going to be missed.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 09:45
Probably all but Suzaku and Anya and maybe Gino, yes. So much for them being stellar pilots.
hey kallen is an ace pilot
she didnt fare too well against suzaku in ep 2 (she was in a glassgo)
same deal
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:46
That was when Code Geass depicted, mostly, pilot skill. Here, it's just Super Robots.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:47
Speaking of which, where does Anya's loyalties lie right now? She was not present with the other KotR and I am wondering if she is siding with Lelouch and Suzaku. As for Gino, I do not know about him. The way the writers have been going, it would not be a shock if he were the first one to go.
That was when Code Geass depicted, mostly, pilot skill. Here, it's just Super Robots.
You call these super robots? You have extremely low standards good sir. I mean SRW is never gonna classify any of these as super. 0_o
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:49
In Geass terms. Of course, there are robots far above the SEITEN and the Albion that I am well aware of.
ZeroSama
2008-09-04, 09:49
Yup, I agree with you. It will be funny to see how Zero turned the table against the group he used to lead. If it wasn't for him, the BK wouldn't be what it is today.
Yes Ougi's resistance cell(including Kallen) would've all died at the first battle of Shinjuku even without the Lancelots intervention, Todou and co. would've died at Narita because Zero wouldn't have wiped out the majority of the Britannian forces with a lanslide and the CF would be part of Britannia.
Ungrateful buggers.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:51
You know something, I am wonder how many of thsoe character images from the correlation chart are going to be faded by the time this coming episode ends.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:54
I predict this:
Nunnally. (Again, though maybe not.)
Most of the BKs.
All the Rounds save Anya and Suzaku and maybe Dorothea.
Jeremiah.
Maybe C.C.
And the Glaston Knights...though it would be rather sad if Claudio dies, really.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 09:57
That reminds me, I am gone from posting in this forum for a few days, then when I come back there is talk about Nunnally being alive and being used against her brother. How did this happen?
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 09:58
Official leak. TV guides have let slip that Nunnally's alive and is to be used by Schneizel, and that she's now Lelouch's enemy.
Official leak. TV guides have let slip that Nunnally's alive and is to be used by Schneizel, and that she's now Lelouch's enemy.
I still think that Evil Schneizy could have used the Code R on her :X
Cyborg Nunnaly <_<
I predict this:
Nunnally. (Again, though maybe not.)
Most of the BKs.
All the Rounds save Anya and Suzaku and maybe Dorothea.
Jeremiah.
Maybe C.C.
And the Glaston Knights...though it would be rather sad if Claudio dies, really.
Nunnally is still dead in my eyes, but anyway you're probably right.
Why should Jeremiah have to die? he's been the only one who has escaped death like it was jogging in the morning for him.
As C.C has her code back, I don't see her dying that quickly anymore, except if Lelouch is forced into a tight spot where he would have to take her immortality to live on
(As in, he gets nuked by Schneizel and C.C saves his life by giving him her Code)
Speaking of which, where does Anya's loyalties lie right now? She was not present with the other KotR and I am wondering if she is siding with Lelouch and Suzaku. As for Gino, I do not know about him. The way the writers have been going, it would not be a shock if he were the first one to go.
If I had to guess I would say with Lelouch, since Anya was most likely only a rounds because Charlies geassed her. From the looks of things it also seems like Lelouch and Anya kind of already know each other and possibly already have a relationship. [Hell for all we know Anya could have been Lelouch's knight that's why she was studying in the aeris's palace. Lelouch could have been geassed to forget, who knows :P]
Also back to the main point, that's probably why Gino seems so mad. He probably thinks Lelouch kidnapped or killed Anya or something :o
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 10:02
why do people think about Dorothea so well
we know nothing about her at all (the brave as bismark isnt much)
we didnt know what bradly would turn out to be and we still dont know about nonet
why Dorothea?
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:03
Nunnally is still dead in my eyes, but anyway you're probably right.
Why should Jeremiah have to die? he's been the only one who has escaped death like it was jogging in the morning for him.
As C.C has her code back, I don't see her dying that quickly anymore, except if Lelouch is forced into a tight spot where he would have to take her immortality to live on
(As in, he gets nuked by Schneizel and C.C saves his life by giving him her Code)
Well, Jeremiah has been the only Geass character (aside from C.C....and V.V....and Suzaku and...Lelouch, Sayoko and Nunnally and Charles, once...and Mao...okay, not the only one) to escape death, heh. But I still reckon he'll go down in a blaze of LOYALTY protecting his prince or owning the Damocles.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 10:05
why do people think about Dorothea so well
we know nothing about her at all (the brave as bismark isnt much)
we didnt know what bradly would turn out to be and we still dont know about nonet
why Dorothea?
It is very simple blade, it is the reason why there were people calling Kallen a female dog for killing the Valkyries. Dorothea as breasts.
If I had to guess I would say with Lelouch, since Anya was most likely only a rounds because Charlies geassed her. From the looks of things it also seems like Lelouch and Anya kind of already know each other and possibly already have a relationship. [Hell for all we know Anya could have been Lelouch's knight that's why she was studying in the aeris's palace. Lelouch could have been geassed to forget, who knows :P]
Also back to the main point, that's probably why Gino seems so mad. He probably thinks Lelouch kidnapped or killed Anya or something :o
Didn't they say that Anya had only been there for a week to learn 'proper lady etiquette' from Marianne?
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 10:08
It is very simple blade, it is the reason why there were people calling Kallen a female dog for killing the Valkyries. Dorothea as breasts.
naruhodo :heh:
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 10:10
Well can someone tell me how in the world Schniezel gots his hands on Nunnally in the first place. Was she not in the protection of that ninja maid? So I am guessing that either the maid was with the second prince the whole time or the person that retrieved Nunnally had enough battle skills to beat the maid.
Well, Jeremiah has been the only Geass character (aside from C.C....and V.V....and Suzaku and...Lelouch, Sayoko and Nunnally and Charles, once...and Mao...okay, not the only one) to escape death, heh. But I still reckon he'll go down in a blaze of LOYALTY protecting his prince or owning the Damocles.
Touché, but still,
He's escaped death maybe 3 times already, I would honestly be pissed off if they decided to off him before the series ends.
About the Blazing loyalty thing, I could definitely see that happening :p
Well can someone tell me how in the world Schniezel gots his hands on Nunnally in the first place. Was she not in the protection of that ninja maid? So I am guessing that either the maid was with the second prince the whole time or the person that retrieved Nunnally had enough battle skills to beat the maid.
I've already personally speculated that Nonette did it.
Either that or the plane went auto pilot and just took them to him. XD
why do people think about Dorothea so well
we know nothing about her at all (the brave as bismark isnt much)
we didnt know what bradly would turn out to be and we still dont know about nonet
why Dorothea?
She is pretty and seems to have character and seems to be a badass on battlefields. I like characters like that (but kallen not so much, I don't know why :X Maybe the hair :X ). I really hope that she is an ally of Lelouch.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 10:19
She is pretty and seems to have character and seems to be a badass on battlefields. I like characters like that (but kallen not so much, I don't know why :X Maybe the hair :X ). I really hope that she is an ally of Lelouch.
Similar things have been said about Monica and Nonette. Monica is said to have a fierce personalit during battle and Nonette is one of the few people that Cornilla even fears. Yet when Monica was introduce in the battle field she was the personal driver for the Emporer's ship and Nonette is shown just looking serious. If or when Dorothea is introduce, I am hoping that there is a small introduction to her character or it would have been a waste of paint and pencil just to have her animated only to die a few moments after her introduction.
Similar things have been said about Monica and Nonette. Monica is said to have a fierce personalit during battle and Nonette is one of the few people that Cornilla even fears. Yet when Monica was introduce in the battle field she was the personal driver for the Emporer's ship and Nonette is shown just looking serious. If or when Dorothea is introduce, I am hoping that there is a small introduction to her character or it would have been a waste of paint and pencil just to have her animated only to die a few moments after her introduction.
Dorothea shows up: "I'm here as a reinforcement everyo" *Gets shotdown*
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:23
Actually, Cornelia fears Nonette only because she can't relate to her. In Lost Colors, Nonette was depicted as being incredibly vibrant and outgoing. Cornelia, being stern and all, fears her because she's just so...different from her.
Pink-chan
2008-09-04, 10:26
I seriously hope the dead stay dead. I find the speculation of Nunnally being used by Schneizel against her brother is ridiculous. Firstly, she is speculated to be the knight of Zero serving under emperor to spy on Lelouch, now this? Does people really expect Nunnally to be evil :heh:
Similar things have been said about Monica and Nonette. Monica is said to have a fierce personalit during battle and Nonette is one of the few people that Cornilla even fears. Yet when Monica was introduce in the battle field she was the personal driver for the Emporer's ship and Nonette is shown just looking serious. If or when Dorothea is introduce, I am hoping that there is a small introduction to her character or it would have been a waste of paint and pencil just to have her animated only to die a few moments after her introduction.
But Dorothea is different :X
Why? Because her hairstyle is badass XD
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 10:27
In Lost Colors, Nonette was depicted as being incredibly vibrant and outgoing.different from her.
Really, the animators really had me fooled for a moment.:heh: Honestly, they just have her standing there with a frown when she is shown.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:27
I seriously hope the dead stay dead. I find the speculation of Nunnally being used by Schneizel against her brother is ridiculous. Firstly, she is speculated to be the knight of Zero serving under emperor to spy on Lelouch, now this? Does people really expect Nunnally to be evil :heh:
Uh...it's the truth. TV guides let it slip.
Actually, Cornelia fears Nonette only because she can't relate to her. In Lost Colors, Nonette was depicted as being incredibly vibrant and outgoing. Cornelia, being stern and all, fears her because she's just so...different from her.
Nonette=Gino
Anya=Monica
Bismark=Dorothea
Suzaku=Kallen
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:32
...Uh...Gino's on Schneizel's side and Anya's AWOL, and Dorothea hasn't even been introduced.
Pink-chan
2008-09-04, 10:32
Uh...it's the truth. TV guides let it slip.
Aww. That's disappointing. I rather Nunnally stays dead.
...Uh...Gino's on Schneizel's side and Anya's AWOL, and Dorothea hasn't even been introduced.
That's not about sides, but their characters.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 10:34
How are Anya and Monica similar? Breast size yes, but in character?
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:36
Okay, I'll give you that...but Nonette...I suppose she is like Gino...but Anya and Monica?
Okay, I'll give you that...but Nonette...I suppose she is like Gino...but Anya and Monica?
Both act clueless all the time?
Anya: "I don't remember anything. Where am I?"
Monica: "Schneizel's matter isn't important? Why are our own guys attacking us?"
... closest I could come up with.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:46
Well, Monica was taken aback by Charles calling Schneizel's concerns 'trifling' and equally shocked when her own ship fired on her allies. Anya also had the spirit of Marianne inside her for nine years.
Soooo haven't been on the forums for the last day lol. Anything new? Any spoilers? Not speculations.
Soooo haven't been on the forums for the last day lol. Anything new? Any spoilers? Not speculations.
Lelouch will kiss Kallen in next episode, that was confirmed.
No, I'm joking, Josh, sorry XD. Don't hit me XD. There is nothing new
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 10:48
Both act clueless all the time?
Anya: "I don't remember anything. Where am I?"
Monica: "Schneizel's matter isn't important? Why are our own guys attacking us?"
... closest I could come up with.
You can throw in Shirley too if you are going by cluelessness.:heh:
But as for Anya, I think that we are going to see her real personality shine since she is not under the influence of Lelouch's mother anymore. Plus, the personality we were seeing was more like watching a person under forced sedation trying to act. As for Monica, I would have enjoyed it more if her character was fleshed out abit, but it does not look like the case in the coming episodes.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 10:49
Even though it was just a couple of phrases, Anya certainly did sound different when she exclaimed "What?!" and "This place is..." upon being woken up by Ragnarok's activation.
Soooo haven't been on the forums for the last day lol. Anything new? Any spoilers? Not speculations.
No there hasn't been anything else really.
Nothing new since Nunnally.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 10:55
Lelouch will kiss Kallen in next episode, that was confirmed.
No, I'm joking, Josh, sorry XD. Don't hit me XD. There is nothing new
and you say im mean
and you say im mean
XD. That was a bad joke, I know :O
Sorry :sad:
XD. That was a bad joke, I know :O
Sorry :sad:
Well, at least I had a good laugh of the image of thousands of Kallen fans going in an uproar.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 11:10
The Kallen fans have really been screwed over big time. Interruptions have single-handily kept her from shining on multiple occasions. When Lelouch ends up choosing C.C...the Lelouch/Kallen fans will not be wrong to wonder what might have been if Kallen's precious moments with Lelouch weren't always cut short.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:12
The Kallen fans have really been screwed over big time. Interruptions have single-handily kept her from shining on multiple occasions. When Lelouch ends up choosing C.C...the Lelouch/Kallen fans will not be wrong to wonder what might have been if Kallen's precious moments with Lelouch weren't always cut short.
why so certein :confused:
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 11:13
Oh, no! It's a reverse Dann! :p
The Kallen fans have really been screwed over big time. Interruptions have single-handily kept her from shining on multiple occasions. When Lelouch ends up choosing C.C...the Lelouch/Kallen fans will not be wrong to wonder what might have been if Kallen's precious moments with Lelouch weren't always cut short.
Meh, Kallen still abandoned Lelouch twice. Lelouch is too protective of Kallen as his friend to let her get close enough to him, and Kallen apparently still isn't Shirley enough to say to hell with all that and believe in Lelouch regardless of what the idiot says.
I'm not sure more moments together would have solved that problem.
why so certein :confused:
TDO probably thinks there's not enough screentime for it to work at this point. If nothing happens this week I'm gonna have to agree.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:17
but thats the whole point
thats what ep 22 is meant to be
the end game
the crux
the moment that can either make or break kalulu for ever
so natually somethings going to interupt
but thats the whole point
thats what ep 22 is meant to be
the end game
the crux
the moment that can either make or break kalulu for ever
so natually somethings going to interupt
Ep 21 was the end game, the crux, the moment that can either make or break CluClu for ever
And nothing happened. *Insert stupid jingle music* :(
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:23
Ep 21 was the end game, the crux, the moment that can either make or break CluClu for ever
And nothing happened. *Insert stupid jingle music* :(
some (not me since i like breathing) would say that it broke in 21
Ep 21 was the end game, the crux, the moment that can either make or break CluClu for ever
And nothing happened. *Insert stupid jingle music* :(
Oh, something happened alright. Lelouch was pissed she knew this much and never told him, and was annoyed when she brought up the smile he asked her to have before she dies.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 11:25
Meh, Kallen still abandoned Lelouch twice. Lelouch is too protective of Kallen as his friend to let her get close enough to him, and Kallen apparently still isn't Shirley enough to say to hell with all that and believe in Lelouch regardless of what the idiot says.Well I don't particularly blame Kallen for that. What is she supposed to do...sacrifice her morals for a guy? Lelouch has been a douche for 90% of the series...and Kallen has seen him at his absolute worst. If Kallen chooses to like a loser like that, then fine...but I would be disgusted with her if she was willing to blindly follow him. He needs to give her some sort of assurance that he values her and that his intentions are good/noble. If he can't do that, then she should choose to become his enemy.
Oh, something happened alright. Lelouch was pissed she knew this much and never told him, and was annoyed when she brought up the smile he asked her to have before she dies.
But that doesn't mean that it's over XD
And he was annoyed and angry about the whole situation. If the megami infos are true (but I think they're not), it said that Lelouch is happy that she is his accomplice again. And even said that he doesn't want her to know that he is sorry about what happened.
But since I hink that Megami is a jok,e I will just say that C.C. is still with him. He could have throw away her like a rag, but he didn't.
Discerptor
2008-09-04, 11:30
But that doesn't mean that it's over XD
And he was annoyed and angry about the whole situation. If the megami infos are true (but I think they're not), it said that Lelouch is happy that she is his accomplice again. And even said that he doesn't want her to know that he is sorry about what happened.
But since I hink that Megami is a jok,e I will just say that C.C. is still with him. He could have throw away her like a rag, but he didn't.
Lelouch is only keeping her around long enough to get his Geass to the point where he can kill her. :D
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:30
at the end of season 1 she fled in shock (and it was a huge shock) she came back afterwords
in ep 19 he litterally had to put on a huge dog and pony show just to keep her from dying with him
not really as simple a thing as abandoning him
And he was annoyed and angry about the whole situation. If the megami infos are true (but I think they're not), it said that Lelouch is happy that she is his accomplice again. And even said that he doesn't want her to know that he is sorry about what happened.
It said nothing of the sort, the blogger was happy. Koshimizu made this clarification.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:31
Lelouch is only keeping her around long enough to get his Geass to the point where he can kill her. :D
and i think i speak for us all when i say
huh?
It said nothing of the sort, the blogger was happy. Koshimizu made this clarification.
That doesn't change the fact that she is still around him. If he was so angry at her, he would have say her Bye Bye or captured her like what he wanted to do with V.V..
Well I don't particularly blame Kallen for that. What is she supposed to do...sacrifice her morals for a guy? Lelouch has been a douche for 90% of the series...and Kallen has seen him at his absolute worst. If Kallen chooses to like a loser like that, then fine...but I would be disgusted with her if she was willing to blindly follow him. He needs to give her some sort of assurance that he values her and that his intentions are good/noble. If he can't do that, then she should choose to become his enemy.
It's not about blindly following him, it's about knowing Lelouch well enough to believe in him regardless of what he does to push you away. Even Suzaku finally managed to confront Lelouch earnestly regardless of how many times Lelouch lied to make Suzaku believe that everything was Lelouch's fault.
And just a nitpick really, Kallen didn't see Lelouch massacre the Geass Cult, so she hasn't quite seen him at his absolute worst. :uhoh:
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 11:33
at the end of season 1 she fled in shock (and it was a huge shock) she came back afterwords
in ep 19 he litterally had to put on a huge dog and pony show just to keep her from dying with him
not really as simple a thing as abandoning himI won't lie...I would have preferred for Kallen to continue standing in front of Lelouch even after he lied. I thought the conversations with Nunnally should have been enough to convince her that Lelouch was lying, apparently I was wrong.
Episode 21 did not destroy Lelouch/CC...but it was a blow. I thought for sure that they would become closer in that episode...and that didn't happen. CC became closer to Suzaku, not Lelouch. :heh:
Megami magazine is a fraud. They just type random shit in there to put the fans in a frenzy. "Anya will kiss C.C. to restore her memories" is a good example of this.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 11:34
'Never mind the fact that you're my accomplice. I can kill you now, g'bye.'
Logical, Discerptor. :rolleyes:
Er, Disruptive, Marianya certainly did move in pretty close on C.C. before she restored her memories...
Er, Disruptive, Marianya certainly did move in pretty close on C.C. before she restored her memories...
I was wondering if she actually kissed her. We haven't seen it, but I think it could have happened since Marianne wanted to be Face to Face with her to do the contact/transfer.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 11:52
Just thinking about something. But with Lelouch the new emporer and Suzaku the Knight of Zero, does that mean that the area that was freely controled by Bismark now null and void. Plus, since Lelouch has the majority of the Royal Family at his side and Schniezel is now on the defensive, does that void all the titles, ranks, and rights of the KotR. I mean think about it, Gino would be pennieless, Bismark would lose his control area, who cares about Nonette, and poor Monica would have to enter the undergound fight clubs just to earn a living.
bladeofdarkness
2008-09-04, 11:54
bismark is still KoO
so that doesnt get canceled becouse of suzaku
but if he turns out to be a traitor to the crown then yes
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 11:54
Just thinking about something. But with Lelouch the new emporer and Suzaku the Knight of Zero, does that mean that the area that was freely controled by Bismark now null and void. Plus, since Lelouch has the majority of the Royal Family at his side and Schniezel is now on the defensive, does that void all the titles, ranks, and rights of the KotR. I mean think about it, Gino would be pennieless, Bismark would lose his control area, who cares about Nonette, and poor Monica would have to enter the undergound fight clubs just to earn a living.
...How would the royal family (who Lelouch only ordered to acknowledge him as Emperor) being on his side void all the priveleges, ranks and titles of the Rounds? And we don't know what the title of KoZ entails other than it being a blatant pun.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 12:04
This may be giving Gino too much credit...
Is Gino smart enough to add the pieces together? Lelouch's true last name is Vi Britannia. Zero and Suzaku always had an odd relationship. The two of them went to school together. Suzaku is now the Knight of Zero. Was Gino smart enough to realize that Lelouch was Zero. I know he was reported as dead...but Gino should have enough information at his disposal to figure it out.
(lol, a post of around 50 words based on the one word Gino spoke in episode 21.)
bismark is still KoO
so that doesnt get canceled becouse of suzaku
but if he turns out to be a traitor to the crown then yes
Still, seeing as how it's Jeremiah's job to be Lelouch's Knight of One, looks like Bismark is gonna have to go.
This may be giving Gino too much credit...
Is Gino smart enough to add the pieces together? Lelouch's true last name is Vi Britannia. Zero and Suzaku always had an odd relationship. The two of them went to school together. Suzaku is now the Knight of Zero. Was Gino smart enough to realize that Lelouch was Zero. I know he was reported as dead...but Gino should have enough information at his disposal to figure it out.
(lol, a post of around 50 words based on the one word Gino spoke in episode 21.)
possibly, but it doesn't even matter.
Gino has no political aspirations. He's just a knight, in pretty much every sense of the word. So no consequences whatsoever if Gino figures out Lelouch was Zero.
NoLongerSane
2008-09-04, 12:06
Well, for someone with give a title out of a blatant pun, Lelouch is using Suzaku a his primary "go to guy" in putting down anytype of uprising.
Also, Dream, I am curious about your avatar. What anime is that from?
Baixinho
2008-09-04, 12:08
That doesn't change the fact that she is still around him. If he was so angry at her, he would have say her Bye Bye or captured her like what he wanted to do with V.V..
He didn't ask her to come with him though. He asked what she intended to do (at least in my sub). If she had answered that she would go wander somewhere else, I am not sure he would have kept her from leaving. Her bringing back the smile promise did annoy him after all.
Concerning the KoR, I don't see why they would be canceled because of Lelouch becoming Emperor.
neoguyver3
2008-09-04, 12:09
This may be giving Gino too much credit...
Is Gino smart enough to add the pieces together? Lelouch's true last name is Vi Britannia. Zero and Suzaku always had an odd relationship. The two of them went to school together. Suzaku is now the Knight of Zero. Was Gino smart enough to realize that Lelouch was Zero. I know he was reported as dead...but Gino should have enough information at his disposal to figure it out.
(lol, a post of around 50 words based on the one word Gino spoke in episode 21.)
maybe Gino will use kallen and Suzaku to figure out Lelouch is zero. He did note that Kallen only showed her true face when she heard Zero was coming for her. He could see them together next episode and put 2+2 together.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 12:09
Mahou Shoujou Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS, NoLongerSane.
That's because Suzaku's...Suzaku. Though I honestly don't see Monica or Gino falling into those situations just because the royal family's with Lelouch, and he isn't the type of person to rob someone of everything they have.
He didn't ask her to come with him though. He asked what she intended to do (at least in my sub). If she had answered that she would go wander somewhere else, I am not sure he would have kept her from leaving. Her bringing back the smile promise did annoy him after all.
But she is still with him for now since he hasn't rejected her, you can't deny that :rolleyes:
Baixinho
2008-09-04, 12:11
maybe Gino will use kallen and Suzaku to figure out Lelouch is zero. He did note that Kallen only showed her true face when she heard Zero was coming for her. He could see them together next episode and put 2+2 together.
Maybe.
But is it really important now that Gino finds about Lelouch being Zero?
But she is still with him for now since he hasn't rejected her, you can't deny that :rolleyes:
I'm not denying anything, I'm just trying to put some nuance in what you said. Yes she is with him, but it is not necessarily because he wanted/needed her to be with him
He didn't ask her to come with him though. He asked what she intended to do (at least in my sub). If she had answered that she would go wander somewhere else, I am not sure he would have kept her from leaving. Her bringing back the smile promise did annoy him after all.
Concerning the KoR, I don't see why they would be canceled because of Lelouch becoming Emperor.
Doesn't really matter if he cancels them or not. I mean:
Lelouch: "Bismark, you are no longer the Knight of One or a Knight at all for that matter."
Bismark: "Oh really? I still have my mech and sword. Prepare to die!!!"
Lelouch: "Crap." *Pushes Suzaku out in Albion to fight him*
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 12:15
But she is still with him for now since he hasn't rejected her, you can't deny that :rolleyes:Narona, don't let your Lelouch/CC preference affect your judgement. CC is still around, it's true. But nothing positive came out of episode 21...you should be able to acknowledge that. It was a step back. The step back may ultimately become meaningless, we will have to wait and see if that is indeed the case.
We have 4 episodes left and a ton of shit to cover. I think both Lelouch/CC and Lelouch/Kallen look extremely bleak at the moment, and if you disagree with me...then I will have to question your intelligence level.
Baixinho
2008-09-04, 12:20
Narona, don't let your Lelouch/CC preference affect your judgement. CC is still around, it's true. But nothing positive came out of episode 21...you should be able to acknowledge that. It was a step back. The step back may ultimately become meaningless, we will have to wait and see if that is indeed the case.
We have 4 episodes left and a ton of shit to cover. I think both Lelouch/CC and Lelouch/Kallen look extremely bleak at the moment, and if you disagree with me...then I will have to question your intelligence level.
While I agree about the CC/Lelouch being unlikely, for the Lelouch/Kallen I would wait too see Ep 22 before agreeing : they still have to have their conversation, and the outcome of it may very well make Lelouch/Kallen (even if the pacing would feel rushed). I mean it's not like it would be the first time they rush development.
Narona, don't let your Lelouch/CC preference affect your judgement. CC is still around, it's true. But nothing positive came out of episode 21...you should be able to acknowledge that. It was a step back. The step back may ultimately become meaningless, we will have to wait and see if that is indeed the case.
We have 4 episodes left and a ton of shit to cover. I think both Lelouch/CC and Lelouch/Kallen look extremely bleak at the moment, and if you disagree with me...then I will have to question your intelligence level.
Shhhh. You can keep that kind of comments for you who annoyed a lot of people last week you know.
Well, it was not a positive thing but my point was that if she stays around him, it's still not over, because something can still happen.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 12:23
Well, it was not a positive thing but my point was that if she stays around him, it's still not over, because something can still happen.No one is arguing that Narona. CC hasn't even said her gum card line yet, and personally...I think it's the most tender of the bunch. And it's the only one we can definitively say is about Lelouch. CC fans have tons to look forward to. But how about a little give and take?
We are all willing to acknowledge that...so we would like you to acknowledge that episode 21 was negative towards that pairing. :p
Narona, don't let your Lelouch/CC preference affect your judgement. CC is still around, it's true. But nothing positive came out of episode 21...you should be able to acknowledge that. It was a step back. The step back may ultimately become meaningless, we will have to wait and see if that is indeed the case.
We have 4 episodes left and a ton of shit to cover. I think both Lelouch/CC and Lelouch/Kallen look extremely bleak at the moment, and if you disagree with me...then I will have to question your intelligence level.
1. Yes it did, C.C chose Lelouch over Charles/Marianne and she wanted to live rather than die with them.
2. Yes we will indeed, as when it's done in the finale it's always more spectacular.
3. Oi oi oi, No need to insult a lady now is there.
No one is arguing that Narona. CC hasn't even said her gum card line yet, and personally...I think it's the most tender of the bunch. And it's the only one we can definitively say is about Lelouch. CC fans have tons to look forward to. But how about a little give and take?
We are all willing to acknowledge that...so we would like you to acknowledge that episode 21 was negative towards that pairing. :p
I haven't denied it to begin with :heh: . That's why sunday I said it was over XD. Because I was depressed abou what happened in 21.
And about that:
CC fans have tons to look forward to
My biased side will reply: I hope, It will.
My logical side will reply: maybe, but not a romantic interaction.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 12:28
1. Yes it did, C.C chose Lelouch over Charles/Marianne and she wanted to live rather than die with them.My response.
Nothing positive to suggest that Lelouch and CC gained steam is basically what I meant to imply.
I will admit this though. CC has finally escaped from her secrets and her lies. Those conversations with Marianne...we knew when Lelouch discovered those that he wouldn't be happy. It's good news that Lelouch discovered this information now instead of in episode 25. If Charles and Marianne had been the last bosses...then CC's chances would have diminished even further imo.
Ok here it goes
I think that if lelouch plays it right then he can get some of schneizels elit forces (karren and xinke). The black knights probably havent told xinke about the truth, that they betrayed him in the worst way (those bastards!!!!). anyway, he could use his zero cloths and contact xinke, tianzi and the black haired girl whom i never remember the name of:P. and at the same time he could contact karen and tell her the truth. If he plays his card right then it would be really interesting:D
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 12:57
Except that Zero's officially dead. Both to the BKs and to Lelouch himself.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 13:03
That and Ohgi told Xingke and Kaguya the truth, so acting as Zero would be pointless. The Black Knights are also separate from Schneizel, they only have a cease-fire going. Once Lelouch gets Britannia to join the UFN, there won't be any reason for the Black Knights to fight him.
Meh, Kallen still abandoned Lelouch twice. Lelouch is too protective of Kallen as his friend to let her get close enough to him, and Kallen apparently still isn't Shirley enough to say to hell with all that and believe in Lelouch regardless of what the idiot says.
I'm not sure more moments together would have solved that problem.
Problem with the comparison is that Shirley never truly understood the shit Lelouch was in, she was jumping in blind. That's not exactly good. On one side you have someone who 'isn't Shirley enough' and walks away, and on the other someone who jumps head first into the shallow end of the pool. I'll take the former...
TDO probably thinks there's not enough screentime for it to work at this point. If nothing happens this week I'm gonna have to agree.
The same can be said for C.C.. If anything, Ep.21 should have been a development period but it turned out negative, not positive, for a relationship. If they haven't already run out of time/rope to hang on to, they will soon. After Ep.22 I'd expect romance and everything else aside from Nunally and Schneizel to be completed.
And as it stands, its going to be either Kallen or no one at all. Ep.21 was too sour of a note for me to swallow and somehow expect there to be a believable ending between C.C. and Lelouch. Though I'm certain someone will tell me I'm wrong... and not elaborate as to why. :rolleyes:
so natually somethings going to interupt
Pointless at this point.
Ep 21 was the end game, the crux, the moment that can either make or break CluClu for ever
And nothing happened. *Insert stupid jingle music* :(
Did you watch Ep.21? If that's not a shot in both legs, I don't know what is.
Oh, something happened alright. Lelouch was pissed she knew this much and never told him, and was annoyed when she brought up the smile he asked her to have before she dies.
This man speaks truth. Revere him.
Lelouch is only keeping her around long enough to get his Geass to the point where he can kill her. :D
This man... speaks convoluted truths. Convolutedly revere him. :heh:
But she is still with him for now since he hasn't rejected her, you can't deny that :rolleyes:
He also did not accept her, he simply did not reject her. He is indifferent/uncaring/impartial/distant/other words.
Shhhh. You can keep that kind of comments for you who annoyed a lot of people last week you know.
Well, it was not a positive thing but my point was that if she stays around him, it's still not over, because something can still happen.
You say that now once he starts talking about C.C.. Oh goody. :rolleyes:
His point was that it was negative, a big negative. But... sure, anything can still happen. Perfect reasoning.
1. Yes it did, C.C chose Lelouch over Charles/Marianne and she wanted to live rather than die with them.
Did she choose Lelouch? Or did she choose her smile? I wonder...
All that aside, it doesn't change the fact that she is still skipping out on the blame for everything she did with Charles and Marianne. As this show has made quite evident, karma comes back to bite you in the ass.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 13:06
That and Ohgi told Xingke and Kaguya the truth, so acting as Zero would be pointless. The Black Knights are also separate from Schneizel, they only have a cease-fire going. Once Lelouch gets Britannia to join the UFN, there won't be any reason for the Black Knights to fight him.
Infact they should thank his benevolence or something because his move basically just gave them what they were after despite the fact that they betrayed him. Doesn't sound like he is holding their betrayal against them either... :heh:
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 13:11
Infact they should thank his benevolence or something because his move basically just gave them what they were after despite the fact that they betrayed him. Doesn't sound like he is holding their betrayal against them either... :heh:Even though Lelouch doesn't seem to mind, I have a sneaking suspicion that Ohgi will not be so easily forgiving. It may just be my hate speaking for his basically ordering a hit on Lelouch, but I don't think he's going to let it go after a month.
I doubt the rest will hold much of a grudge, though. Xingke will probably go with it, and Kaguya should too.
And as it stands, its going to be either Kallen or no one at all. Ep.21 was too sour of a note for me to swallow and somehow expect there to be a believable ending between C.C. and Lelouch. Though I'm certain someone will tell me I'm wrong... and not elaborate as to why. :rolleyes:
I will not elaborate anything, it will be a waste of time since you will say that I am wrong (as always), but as always, I will just say that you are too sure of what you think. And If CxL happens instead of KxL, imo (my shitty opinion that you certainly don't care at all from your arrogant POV), it will not mean bad writing.
And about disruptive, sorry to not jump on every people who is saying things that I don't like.
And I will stop here, I don't want to get angry again at you, it will be pointless.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 13:17
Even though Lelouch doesn't seem to mind, I have a sneaking suspicion that Ohgi will not be so easily forgiving. It may just be my hate speaking for his basically ordering a hit on Lelouch, but I don't think he's going to let it go after a month.
I doubt the rest will hold much of a grudge, though. Xingke will probably go with it, and Kaguya should too.
But really, Lelouch making Britannia join the UFN basically eliminates the threat to Japan so Ougi should not have a problem, unless he is a moron. you can't change what has happened in the past, you should instead look ahead to the future that you can change. Killing Lelouch just has no positive effects for them.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-09-04, 13:19
But really, Lelouch making Britannia join the UFN basically eliminates the threat to Japan so Ougi should not have a problem, unless he is a moron. you can't change what has happened in the past, you should instead look ahead to the future that you can change. Killing Lelouch just has no positive effects for them.
Unless he fears for himself and Villetta's safety.
It was paranoia that Schenzeil used to convince them to betray Lelouch.
Except that Zero's officially dead. Both to the BKs and to Lelouch himself.
Its not like Zero havent been "officially dead" before...
That and Ohgi told Xingke and Kaguya the truth, so acting as Zero would be pointless.
Ok seriusly, i cant see that happening at all, Xinke wouldnt believe that. Besides at the meeting with schneizel,oghi,xinke, Kaguya and Tianzi they was told that Zero is dead and kaguya said " there is only one man who i can think of who would fight brittain" and Xinke agrees...
The Black Knights are also separate from Schneizel, they only have a cease-fire going
Yeh, thats true, i geuss that slipped my mind...
anyway, the hard part is for lulu to contact xinke...
as we all see at next eppisode preview lulu have already contacted karren
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 13:20
But really, Lelouch making Britannia join the UFN basically eliminates the threat to Japan so Ougi should not have a problem, unless he is a moron. you can't change what has happened in the past, you should instead look ahead to the future that you can change. Killing Lelouch just has no positive effects for them.One could argue that it's not really a positive when he was going to explain the truth to Xingke and Kaguya. We'll wait and see, but I just have a bad feeling about it.
And about disruptive, sorry to not jump on every people who is saying things that I don't like.
My point was that you only got on his case when he started trolling C.C.. Double standards hurt my eyes.
My point was that you only got on his case when he started trolling C.C.. Double standards hurt my eyes.
I said that to him because of that line:
then I will have to question your intelligence level.
There was no reason to say that, and even more because he was annoying last week.
and FYI Arrogant and ill mannered people hurt my eyes too.
Captain Zechs
2008-09-04, 13:50
Is there really a need to fight that badly? Honestly, if he ends up with Kallen, he ends up with Kallen, if he ends up with C.C. he ends up with C.C.. You won't be able to change it. Stop attacking each other, though I do believe Narona was in the right, so to speak.
kakashi524
2008-09-04, 14:04
44 pages already? wow. Well, i cant read them all. And i dont know if this have been said but, anyways here it goes:
Schneizel has a Geass, It was given by VV. VV called Schneizel to cover up Marianne's death. It has already been mentioned on the anime, not sure where exactly, that Schneizel was the one that retrieved Marianne's corpse.
Now, on the last episode Schneizel says:
"Will Lelouch geass grasp the world, or....."
I think it continues "will mine do it?" or something like that, any thoughts?
Discerptor
2008-09-04, 14:06
44 pages already? wow. Well, i cant read them all. And i dont know if this have been said but, anyways here it goes:
Schneizel has a Geass, It was given by VV. VV called Schneizel to cover up Marianne's death. It has already been mentioned on the anime, not sure where exactly, that Schneizel was the one that retrieved Marianne's corpse.
Now, on the last episode Schneizel says:
"Will Lelouch geass grasp the world, or....."
I think it continues "will mine do it?" or something like that, any thoughts?
If that were the case, I think he would have revealed a Geass in his eyes when he opened them, for maximum dramatic effect. It's more likely he's thinking about that "Damocles" of his.
Maybe they just chose the WTF effect over the dramatic one.
Dream_Traveller
2008-09-04, 14:25
Unless he was doing one hell of a feint when he was talking to the BKs, he seemed entirely new to the concept of Geass even with the evidence Kanon provided.
I've decided Lelouch's new hat will be the safest thing in the show as any time it is lost, Mia's Geass will activate and she will find it and return it to him. She is probably already at Ashford to be the one to interrupt his speech with Kallen this time to return his Love hat from the School's event.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 15:21
One could argue that it's not really a positive when he was going to explain the truth to Xingke and Kaguya. We'll wait and see, but I just have a bad feeling about it.
But Lelouch's actions will speak for him, again assuming those spoilers are correct and that Lelouch does make Britannia join the UFN then how can that not be a positive thing for Xingke and Kaguya? It basically lowered the chances of Britannian aggression with Britannia being allied with them.
Code Geass will get a WHR ending. /lol
Meaning, Lelouch and X girl with disappear / die together, up to the viewer. ;)
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-09-04, 15:26
44 pages already? wow. Well, i cant read them all. And i dont know if this have been said but, anyways here it goes:
Schneizel has a Geass, It was given by VV. VV called Schneizel to cover up Marianne's death. It has already been mentioned on the anime, not sure where exactly, that Schneizel was the one that retrieved Marianne's corpse.
Uh yeah it was Charles himself who ordered Schneziel to move her body.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 15:27
But Lelouch's actions will speak for him, again assuming those spoilers are correct and that Lelouch does make Britannia join the UFN then how can that not be a positive thing for Xingke and Kaguya? It basically lowered the chances of Britannian aggression with Britannia being allied with them.I meant for Ohgi. Ordering Zero to be killed despite being unsure of how the others would react to his lie is hardly a positive.
meijiOrO
2008-09-04, 15:27
But Lelouch's actions will speak for him, again assuming those spoilers are correct and that Lelouch does make Britannia join the UFN then how can that not be a positive thing for Xingke and Kaguya? It basically lowered the chances of Britannian aggression with Britannia being allied with them.
Joining the UFN is a really big deal. Basically when you join the UFN you essentially dismantling your entire military and not allowed to have an army. For a country like Britannia that is pretty much defined by its military its a big deal.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-09-04, 15:29
Joining the UFN is a really big deal. Basically when you join the UFN you essentially dismantling your entire military and not allowed to have an army. For a country like Britannia that is pretty much defined by its military its a big deal.
It's not really disbanding.
It's more like merging their armies into the UFN's army which is....oh wait.
That's the Black Knights.:heh: I think Lelouch has some things to clear up before handing over Britannian military to them.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 15:31
It's not really disbanding.
It's more like merging their armies into the UFN's army which is....oh wait.
That's the Black Knights.:heh: I think Lelouch has some things to clear up before handing over Britannian military to them.Considering that he controls a military force that is equal in size to the combined UFN army, they'll probably have to work something new out.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 15:32
I meant for Ohgi. Ordering Zero to be killed despite being unsure of how the others would react to his lie is hardly a positive.
Ah, well I'd still say he would have little reason to go after Lelouch after that though. Unless he is thinking with his libido instead of his brain.
It's not really disbanding.
It's more like merging their armies into the UFN's army which is....oh wait.
That's the Black Knights.:heh: I think Lelouch has some things to clear up before handing over Britannian military to them.
Either way, what this says is that unless Ougi is an idiot he would see that it is a good deal for the Black Knights.
Considering that he controls a military force that is equal in size to the combined UFN army, they'll probably have to work something new out.
assuming ofcourse that Schneizel did not take a sizable chunk of it with him. If he did not then I am not sure what kind of fight he is going to put up. Then again he has Fleia.
ナナリ is not dead!?
http://sep04.imghost.us/2zSX.jpg
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 15:42
Ah, well I'd still say he would have little reason to go after Lelouch after that though. Unless he is thinking with his libido instead of his brain.Well, he did have a month to let his brain start thinking for him again, maybe he'll get over it.
Either way, what this says is that unless Ougi is an idiot he would see that it is a good deal for the Black Knights.Hopefully Schneizel didn't give back Japan in that missing month. The Black knights didn't fulfill their end of the bargain. I could see them being a bit more unaccommodating if that bargaining chip isn't there to be freely given.
assuming ofcourse that Schneizel did not take a sizable chunk of it with him. If he did not then I am not sure what kind of fight he is going to put up. Then again he has Fleia.I would think the majority of the Britannian army is loyal to the crown. Having him seize any more than a decent invasion force would seem unlikely.
Dummy Account
2008-09-04, 16:17
did suzaku got the lancelot to him?
did suzaku got the lancelot to him?
We really don't know yet, but it would be safe to assume.
Dummy Account
2008-09-04, 16:25
We really don't know yet, but it would be safe to assume.
yea no one could pilot it better than him, really
Ypocaramel
2008-09-04, 16:56
Well he's got to challenge Bismarck in a KMF, I figure. The bigger question is whether Suzaku will get Llyod and Cecile transferred to him.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 17:00
Well he's got to challenge Bismarck in a KMF, I figure. The bigger question is whether Suzaku will get Llyod and Cecile transferred to him.We know he gets the Lancelot, and Lloyd would not leave the Lancelot, so both should join him.
We know he gets the Lancelot, and Lloyd would not leave the Lancelot, so both should join him.
Definitely. Lloyd has more loyalties and care to the Lancelot then he does the Emperor or Schneizel. :heh:
Definitely. Lloyd has more loyalties and care to the Lancelot then he does the Emperor or Schneizel. :heh:
And Lelouch and Suzaku now control the greatest cash flow in the world. :heh:
Of course it's just as likely that Laksharta would decide to defect for the exact same reasons if she figured out who Lelouch was. After all, the only reason she joined the Order in the first place was because Zero was an interesting person. >_>
-KarumA-
2008-09-04, 17:23
We know he gets the Lancelot, and Lloyd would not leave the Lancelot, so both should join him.
pff unless Suzaku steals it
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 17:29
pff unless Suzaku steals itWhy would he need to? Lelouch controls Britannia and the factory that made the Lancelot, so he just has to have it moved.
Why would he need to? Lelouch controls Britannia and the factory that made the Lancelot, so he just has to have it moved.
it's still kinda a bummer if Lloyd and Cecile aren't around to maintain it. ;_;
Random Speculation time
So, I was thinking of ways Schneizel could manipulate Nunnally, and one person came to mind. Sayoko. Seriously, I could see Schneizel threatening Sayoko's life to get Nunnally to perform some act he needs against Lelouch.
Lugia_Tsuyu
2008-09-04, 18:01
According to Kallen's gum line, why do I get the feeling that
she'll say it before she dies (from protecting Lelouch)?
I don't know why, but I feel like Kallen's chance of dying is higher than C.C. now. TT_TT Maybe I think too much. I hope it's not gonna come true though.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-09-04, 18:02
Random Speculation time
So, I was thinking of ways Schneizel could manipulate Nunnally, and one person came to mind. Sayoko. Seriously, I could see Schneizel threatening Sayoko's life to get Nunnally to perform some act he needs against Lelouch.
Against her brother? Hardly.
I'd say that he took control of her wheel chair and forced her to follow his commands unless otherwise. That bastard:frustrated:
Given the strong bond between Lelouch and Nunnally I am not sure what he can do to make her adamant against him. Unless she's pissed off because he killed big daddy.
Against her brother? Hardly.
I'd say that he took control of her wheel chair and forced her to follow his commands unless otherwise. That bastard:frustrated:
Given the strong bond between Lelouch and Nunnally I am not sure what he can do to make her adamant against him. Unless she's pissed off because he killed big daddy.
I'm not saying she would 100% go against him. I'm saying she might kind of act like a thorn while not trying to harm him to keep Sayako alive.
TheDisruptiveOne
2008-09-04, 18:04
According to Kallen's gum line, why do I get the feeling that
she'll say it before she dies (from protecting Lelouch)?
I don't know why, but I feel like Kallen's chance of dying is higher than C.C. now. TT_TT Maybe I think too much. I hope it's not gonna come true though.The gum line makes me think Lelouch is the one dying. But I can see your point. Kallen doesn't want Lelouch to lie to her...even in death...she will want honesty from him. That's what she has decided.
I expect we will hear the gum line in episode 22 though honestly. I have no idea what the context will be.
I'm not saying she would 100% go against him. I'm saying she might kind of act like a thorn while not trying to harm him to keep Sayako alive.
I'd say he's skillfull enough to mindscrew them both! (with Kanon's assistance of course :heh:)
I'd say he's skillfull enough to mindscrew them both! (with Kanon's assistance of course :heh:)
LOL. He actually might... Sayoko thinks Nunnally is in danger so goes to Assassinate someone, Nunnally thinks Sayako is in trouble and goes to mess with Lelouch.
According to Kallen's gum line, why do I get the feeling that
she'll say it before she dies (from protecting Lelouch)?
I don't know why, but I feel like Kallen's chance of dying is higher than C.C. now. TT_TT Maybe I think too much. I hope it's not gonna come true though.
Same as you, and I don't want her to die either.
Witacume
2008-09-04, 18:14
Same as you, and I don't want her to die either.
i will laugh if none of the main characters die.
so many death flags but at the end none of them die XD.
that would be funny.
Make it happen sunrise!
i will laugh if none of the main characters die.
so many death flags but at the end none of them die XD.
that would be funny.
Make it happen sunrise!
I want to see Xingke survive so he can run through the streets shouting "I survived deadly disease death flag!!! In your face people!!!"
Cat Megex
2008-09-04, 18:20
I want to see Xingke survive so he can run through the streets shouting "I survived deadly disease death flag!!! In your face people!!!"
And then he dies of a heart attack. XD
I want to see Xingke survive so he can run through the streets shouting "I survived deadly disease death flag!!! In your face people!!!"
I could totally see this! Unless he uses the Shen Hu at 120% during the Final Battle...
Bennyswan
2008-09-04, 18:21
I'm VERY late but
NUNNALLY ALIVE?!
be right back im going to go set up a chair and a rope in my washroom. (or I could just use the toilet seat as a chair)
I'm VERY late but
NUNNALLY ALIVE?!
be right back im going to go set up a chair and a rope in my washroom. (or I could just use the toilet seat as a chair)
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1860268&postcount=23294
And the link makes a return.
SoldierOfDarkness
2008-09-04, 18:23
You know it could always be an imposter.
I mean look how Sayako imitated Lelouch.
*enters washroom and finds Bennyswan hanging from the ceiling* Too late:p
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 18:25
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1860268&postcount=23294
And the link makes a return.Speaking of that post, there's something which completely slipped my mind.
Sayoko x Orange-kun still has a chance. :heh:
You know it could always be an imposter.
I mean look how Sayako imitated Lelouch.
*enters washroom and finds Bennyswan hanging from the ceiling* Too late:p
Schneizel addressing his soldiers: "I have an important mission, who accepts it?"
Random soldier 1: "Pick me, pick me!!!"
Schneizel: "Very well then, put on this wig and clothing, sit in this wheelchair for exact fit, hold your eyes closed while we sew them shut and stick your legs out so we can shoot them and cause paralysis. Oh, and we need one more volunteer."
Soldier 2 gets hand shoved up by someone else: "NO!!!"
Schneizel: "Good, another volunteer. Just put on this maid outfit."
Soldier 1: "NOT FAIR!"
Schneizel: "Not fair? You have no idea what I might ask my maid do. Ask Kanon for details later."
:heh:
Witacume
2008-09-04, 18:26
Speaking of that post, there's something which completely slipped my mind.
Sayoko x Orange-kun still has a chance. :heh:
OTP imo
GOGO ninja MAIDO! and ROBOT KNIGHT!
And then he dies of a heart attack. XD
Kira in CG has been born.
OTP imo
GOGO ninja MAIDO! and ROBOT KNIGHT!
Best pairing. ever.
after ofcourse, Jeremiah apologizes to Sayako for nearly killing her with his sword.
i will laugh if none of the main characters die.
so many death flags but at the end none of them die XD.
that would be funny.
Make it happen sunrise!
I want to see Xingke survive so he can run through the streets shouting "I survived deadly disease death flag!!! In your face people!!!"
And then he dies of a heart attack. XD
That was hilarious to read. Thanks guys :D
Wita, I hope it will happen ^^. I also hope that Li will survive.
Witacume
2008-09-04, 18:29
That was hilarious to read. Thanks guys :D
Wita, I hope i will happen ^^. I also hope that Li will survive.
i am down for a a family/friends ending.
With Kallen and CC fighting over lelouch inplied ending XD
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 18:30
Best pairing. ever.
after ofcourse, Jeremiah apologizes to Sayako for nearly killing her with his sword.Eh, she was out to kill him, too. They'll get over it after a friendly rematch.
demon_god04
2008-09-04, 18:30
To me, if Li hasn't died already then he will not likely die within the span of the series. I mean he has outlived quite a few characters already.
Eh, she was out to kill him, too. They'll get over it after a friendly rematch.
They'll go the Legolas and Gimli route and have a competition of most kills. :D
i am down for a a family/friends ending.
With Kallen and CC fighting over lelouch inplied ending XD
And an epilogue about Li and Tian zi some years later :blush:
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 18:32
They'll go the Legolas and Gimli route and have a competition of most kills. :DAs funny as that is, I could actually see it happening if they had to break into Damocles.
Sayoko x Orange-kun still has a chance. :heh:
agreed . and if that happens then we might see cyborg knight ninja maid children . im joking.....or am I?:heh:
As funny as that is, I could actually see it happening if they had to break into Damocles.
Jeremiah: "Behold, my Storm of Loyalty" *Fires hundreds of missiles into a huge mobile suit destroying it* *Fans and everyone marvels at the explosion*
Sayako: "That still counts for one!!!"
Best pairing. ever.
after ofcourse, Jeremiah apologizes to Sayako for nearly killing her with his sword.
No need for excuses. he did not stroke her to kill because of the "For Master Lelouch's sake!".
And yes! Ultimate Pairing indeed!
agreed . and if that happens then we might see cyborg knight ninja maid children . im joking.....or am I?:heh:
It will be :love:
I can image those kids right now o.o
Does Jeremiah even have the necessary parts for that?
Does Jeremiah even have the necessary parts for that?
Well seeing he has not a full cyborg so he should have it since he still looks mostly human while not in his knightmare.
I don't know, those guys who shot him hit a lot of metal....:uhoh:
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 20:00
I don't know, those guys who shot him hit a lot of metal....:uhoh:Only in the chest. Until someone aims for the crotch, we can assume they didn't need to mess with that part.
I don't know, those guys who shot him hit a lot of metal....:uhoh:
Well the producers didn't go all detailed on which parts so its just another speculation which in my opinion he still has.
Also I can't wait for episode 22 due to her one line in 20 and little appearance in 21 well 19 was epic but I need more Kallen Screentime!
FoxxFireArt
2008-09-04, 20:15
Well the producers didn't go all detailed on which parts so its just another speculation which in my opinion he still has.
Also I can't wait for episode 22 due to her one line in 20 and little appearance in 21 well 19 was epic but I need more Kallen Screentime!
I actually wrote a special posting in the thread where I noticed a trend that follows some episode summary images.
Check out this posting:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1863040&postcount=7269
If I am right about this then Kallen could end up having a rather larger role in this episode then the preview leads on.
i am down for a a family/friends ending.
With Kallen and CC fighting over lelouch inplied ending XD
I hope CC wins the fight! XD
linkinstreet
2008-09-04, 20:22
Only in the chest. Until someone aims for the crotch, we can assume they didn't need to mess with that part.this made my day
Methuselah
2008-09-04, 20:23
I hope both could be happy either way in the end.
By the way, I definitly agree with your sig. Lelouch and Euphie!XD
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 20:24
this made my dayI'm glad. It's nice to get to comment on the humorously perverse things every now and again.
Alright, after much meditation and analysis, I think I have figured out exactly why C.C. seemed so down at the end of episode 21. It's so simple, I'm sure some other people brought it up sooner, but... 48 pages, who's going to go through them all?
I've been hearing things about her having failed to keep Suzaku and Lelouch apart in that one month, but, the answer is a lot simpler than that, with something in the episode to actually help prove it. Alright, everyone, brace yourselves for the truth! Take a look at the following image:
http://images.shareapic.net/images3/011002575.jpg (http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=11002575&owner=Micante)
The true reason C.C. was sad had nothing to do with Suzaku and Lelouch. She had to leave one of her most important friends, Cheese-kun, during the confrontation with Charles. During that time, Anya seems to have won him over. Why wasn't C.C. with Cheese-kun? Where was Anya? The answer to those two questions tie together.
It looks like the true shipping war has revealed itself. Will it be Cheese-kunXC.C. or Cheese-kunXAnya? Immortal witch vs. Loli. This clash will be the ultimate shipping clash, surpassing even the Kalulu and CCLulu clash.
My money's on C.C.XAnyaXCheese-kun harem. >.>
straight from wiki for ep22: lelouche announces that brittainia joins UFN.
uhhhh.
if this happens why will Black knights fight for schenizel?
straight from wiki for ep22: lelouche announces that brittainia joins UFN.
uhhhh.
if this happens why will Black knights fight for schenizel?
Because the Black Knights betrayed the all mighty emperor and have walked so deep to Schenizel's trap so no way unless?
They won't be fighting for Schneizel.
Sprite_Coke
2008-09-04, 22:48
straight from wiki for ep22: lelouche announces that brittainia joins UFN.
uhhhh.
if this happens why will Black knights fight for schenizel?
It just says he will announce that, doesn't mean it'll actually happen, in fact,...there have been Korean translations of spoilers that they will not join together and that the world will completely take a new direction and the destiny of the characters will forever change. or something like that I forget exactly.
Edit: I looked it up again and it says their (Britannia and UFN) collision is inevitable. People's destinies will twist and change. Lelouch's fight will reach to a climax
It just says he will announce that, doesn't mean it'll actually happen, in fact,...there have been Korean translations of spoilers that they will not join together and that the world will completely take a new direction and the destiny of the characters will forever change. or something like that I forget exactly.
Where'd you pull that from? There's be nothing released about them not accepting. It is illogical from them to not accept...
So they will be own their own or go back to UFN?
But Britannia is gonna join UFN so how does all the puzzle fit in?
So they will be own their own or go back to UFN?
But Britannia is gonna join UFN so how does all the puzzle fit in?
Britannia joining the UFN is all because of the method the UFN functions. Britannia is a militaristic empire, but if it joins the UFN it would have to resign its military to the UFN. In other words, the militaristic empire loses its military. Its a strategy to change Britannia without sweeping reforms or outright change of the monarchy system.
Britannia joining the UFN is all because of the method the UFN functions. Britannia is a militaristic empire, but if it joins the UFN it would have to resign its military to the UFN. In other words, the militaristic empire loses its military. Its a strategy to change Britannia without sweeping reforms or outright change of the monarchy system.
I see so then Lelouch would get to reuse the black knights or Li is gonna command them since I really can't see em back going to peace terms.
Also so its a cover up to help move Britannia to a better change without losing its power?
im guessing maybe black knights will fight with schenizel's lead to get revenge on zero/lelouche who tricked them and let euphemia kill 11's REGARDLESS of the fact area 11 is liberated
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 22:58
While it oculd be true for no. 8, I think you should ditch 9, and definitely number 10, since His lord's world will never be accomplish without the sword of Akasha, which is destroyed; furthermore, if Lelouch bring forth the new world, Suzaku should be pleased... unless you mean something else when you say "enjoy it".
1. I based Suzaku's fate on Lancelot: He sees the Holy Grail, but cannot obtain it.
2. Bismarck: I still expect to see him alive at the end.
Lelouch 'wipes out the dissidents'. Nonette, Monica, Bismarck and Gino (though he'll probably live) are said dissidents.
Not really sure if KoR should be considered dissidents.
Dorothea shows up: "I'm here as a reinforcement everyo" *Gets shotdown*
A person who's supposed to be as strong as Bismarck dies upon appearing? That's funny.
Lelouch will kiss Kallen in next episode, that was confirmed.
No, I'm joking, Josh, sorry XD. Don't hit me XD. There is nothing new
DAMN YOU NARONA!!!!!!!!!!!!! First the hat club, now this?!?!?!
Megami magazine is a fraud. They just type random shit in there to put the fans in a frenzy. "Anya will kiss C.C. to restore her memories" is a good example of this.
The fact still doesn't destroy my hope.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:01
1. I based Suzaku's fate on Lancelot: He sees the Holy Grail, but cannot obtain it.
2. Bismarck: I still expect to see him alive at the end.How is he not going to obtain what he wants when working with Lelouch? That practically guarantees it. Also, your consistent claim that Bismarck will somehow see his lord's will come out of this just isn't happening. Not only is he probably dead next episode, but his lord is dead and so is his will.
Not really sure if KoR should be considered dissidents.Rebelling against the throne equals dissidents.
A person who's supposed to be as strong as Bismarck dies upon appearing? That's funny.Chivalrous, not strong. There's a difference.
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:05
How is he not going to obtain what he wants when working with Lelouch? That practically guarantees it. Also, your consistent claim that Bismarck will somehow see his lord's will come out of this just isn't happening. Not only is he probably dead next episode, but his lord is dead and so is his will.
1. Suzaku: Suppose he dies at the end?
2. Bismarck: Supposing that a "peaceful" world was what Charles wanted, having the world peaceful would be (indirectly) Charles's goal. However, I do see your point. I'll change the wording in my final pre-episode 22 speculation set.
Rebelling against the throne equals dissidents.
All right, I don't expect the KoR to be the dissidents mentioned in the summaries. They'll probably join our White Prince.
Chivalrous, not strong. There's a difference.
I'll have to read the Code Geass site again to make sure.
Koshimizu
2008-09-04, 23:06
It just says he will announce that, doesn't mean it'll actually happen, in fact,...there have been Korean translations of spoilers that they will not join together and that the world will completely take a new direction and the destiny of the characters will forever change. or something like that I forget exactly.
Edit: I looked it up again and it says their (Britannia and UFN) collision is inevitable. People's destinies will twist and change. Lelouch's fight will reach to a climax.That seems to be a really crappy translation of this summary:
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From Animedia
The world starts undergoing a transfiguration. Is there no way to avoid the clashing of the two extreme powers, UFN and Britannia? Or...?
Fate of numerous men and women are changed, interwined, and together begin to spin a new story.
And then, Lelouch's battle finally reaches the climax.
-----
BTW, in every version it's "is collision inevitable?" or "seem to be inevitable". If this blogger can't even translate such a simple sentence right, by golly just use someone else's translation.
Koreans aren't gods. The magical Korean spoilers ended in Turn19. And that d**n magical blog is dead. Stop worshipping every junk with "Korean!" tagged to it.
All right, I don't expect the KoR to be the dissidents mentioned in the summaries. They'll probably join our White Prince.
Wait, wouldn't that make them the dissidents then?
Edit: Well, atleast one set of dissidents.
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:09
That seems to be a really crappy translation of this summary:
From Animedia
The world starts undergoing a transfiguration. Is there no way to avoid the clashing of the two extreme powers, UFN and Britannia? Or...?
Fate of numerous men and women are changed, interwined, and together begin to spin a new story.
And then, Lelouch's battle finally reaches the climax.
In every version it's "is collision inevitable?" or "seem to be inevitable".
Koreans aren't gods. The magical Korean spoilers ended in Turn19. And that d**n magical blog is dead. Stop worshipping every junk with "Korean!" tagged to it.
I wonder where the hell Spirit Coke got that particular thing......
Wait, wouldn't that make them the dissidents then?
Edit: Well, atleast one set of dissidents.
I know, I know, I just don't expect them to be wiped out by the backstabbing White Demon in a single episode.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:09
1. Suzaku: Suppose he dies at the end?
2. Bismarck: Supposing that a "peaceful" world was what Charles wanted, having the world peaceful would be (indirectly) Charles's goal. However, I do see your point. I'll change the wording in my final pre-episode 22 speculation set.If he dies it'd be pretty hard to see the world come about.
All right, I don't expect the KoR to be the dissidents mentioned in the summaries. They'll probably join our White Prince.Which would make them dissidents. They're supposed to obey the Emperor, not the Second Prince.
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:11
If he dies it'd be pretty hard to see the world come about.
*Shrug*
Let's justs see what happens, shall we?
Sprite_Coke
2008-09-04, 23:17
Where'd you pull that from? There's be nothing released about them not accepting. It is illogical from them to not accept...
That seems to be a really crappy translation of this summary:
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From Animedia
The world starts undergoing a transfiguration. Is there no way to avoid the clashing of the two extreme powers, UFN and Britannia? Or...?
Fate of numerous men and women are changed, interwined, and together begin to spin a new story.
And then, Lelouch's battle finally reaches the climax.
-----
BTW, in every version it's "is collision inevitable?" or "seem to be inevitable". If this blogger can't even translate such a simple sentence right, by golly just use someone else's translation.
Koreans aren't gods. The magical Korean spoilers ended in Turn19. And that d**n magical blog is dead. Stop worshipping every junk with "Korean!" tagged to it.
I wonder where the hell Spirit Coke got that particular thing......
Yea it's something like what Koshimizu said. It's something like "Collision seems to be inevitable"
http://blog.naver.com/khalin/60054770081
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:20
Yea it's something like what Koshimizu said. It's something like "Collision seems to be inevitable"
http://blog.naver.com/khalin/60054770081
*Facepalm*
Friend, that's not a spoiler, that's the various summaries given out!
Jestersage
2008-09-04, 23:22
1. I based Suzaku's fate on Lancelot: He sees the Holy Grail, but cannot obtain it.
2. Bismarck: I still expect to see him alive at the end.
I see... but still, do we truly know what is the "holy grail" metaphor? If we go by tyhe idea of a peaceful world, then Suzaku already can't enjoy the holy grail, as he saw the thought elevator, but he himself cannot enjoy it. Thus he rejected it, which is another way of saying "cannot obtain" By going with this direction, the only way Bismarck can enjoy the "holy grail" is through fighting to death for his lord.
Furthermore, There are three "King Arthur": Charles and his Ragnarok, Lelouch and his improved Status Quo, and Schneizel and his peace through the barrel. If we follow straightly to the legend, and one lord to another, then you are basically saying Lelouch will lose while Schneizel will win, because Bismarck's lord is now Schneziel while our KoZ is serving Lelouch.
Skellington2612
2008-09-04, 23:23
Lelouch will kiss Kallen in next episode, that was confirmed.
No, I'm joking, Josh, sorry XD. Don't hit me XD. There is nothing new
Really that was too cruel!!! I was jumping all around my room until I saw the spoiler tag... thatīs so cruel...
So many spoilers and speculations and they are very interesting as well but one of 7 there might be close to the real thing and I know what I'm hoping for ^^
Lelouch will kiss Kallen in next episode, that was confirmed.
No, I'm joking, Josh, sorry XD. Don't hit me XD. There is nothing new
My heart was obliterated from it. But oh wells xD
Sports72Xtrm
2008-09-04, 23:28
So if Nunally is fighting for the other team supposedly, where exactly will Orange's loyalties lie? Will he choose Nunally since she too is an heir of Marianne or Lelouch?
Aw man why is next episode taking so long : (
Its weekly should have made it daily x.x
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:30
Lelouch is older, and Emperor, so Orange will likely assume she's been brainwashed. He fought against Nunnally, albeit indirectly, when she was running Tokyo, after all.
Sprite_Coke
2008-09-04, 23:30
*Facepalm*
Friend, that's not a spoiler, that's the various summaries given out!
Well, my poiont was that Britannia and UFN might not join like everyone's saying.
Witacume
2008-09-04, 23:32
Well, my poiont was that Britannia and UFN might not join like everyone's saying.
/facepalm
i need some sleep so i can survive the next week.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:33
Well, my poiont was that Britannia and UFN might not join like everyone's saying.Why not? What would possibly make them turn Lelouch down? He's making Britannia give up its military. Even if they don't trust him, it's win/win.
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:34
Well, my poiont was that Britannia and UFN might not join like everyone's saying.
Lelouch ANNOUNCED that he intends for Britannia to join. I figure that there'll be some meetings on the matter between Britannia and UFN in Area 11, until the White Prince crashes in with his tricks.
Jestersage
2008-09-04, 23:37
Lelouch ANNOUNCED that he intends for Britannia to join. I figure that there'll be some meetings on the matter between Britannia and UFN in Area 11, until the White Prince crashes in with his tricks.
What may have happen is not so much britannia vs UFN, but rather Schineizel UFN (mainly OotBK) is fighting Lelouch UFN (mainly UFN governing body + Britannian military)
What may have happen is not so much britannia vs UFN, but rather Schineizel UFN (mainly OotBK) is fighting Lelouch UFN (mainly UFN governing body + Britannian military)
Why would the Order fight the person who liberates Japan?
FoxxFireArt
2008-09-04, 23:39
So many spoilers and speculations and they are very interesting as well but one of 7 there might be close to the real thing and I know what I'm hoping for ^^
My heart was obliterated from it. But oh wells xD
Really that was too cruel!!! I was jumping all around my room until I saw the spoiler tag... thatīs so cruel...
Please you two. How could you fall for something so painfully obvious? The fact there was a spoiler tag added should of been your first hint.
Sports72Xtrm
2008-09-04, 23:39
As long as Lelouch stays on his side of the hemisphere, I don't think the UFN will have any beef with him. I mean, even Lelouch can't use his magical power ten million miles away. Though I hope Ougi isn't stupid enough to try to assassinate him just so he doesn't get in trouble with the UFN.:uhoh: Suzaku can be the Britannian ambassador.
Please you two. How could you fall for something so painfully obvious? The fact there was a spoiler tag added should of been your first hint.
Does it being a joke count? xD but I still pray for atleast one kiss seeing almost every other female that likes lelouch has been kissed while Kallen being the only one that hasn't yet.
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:40
As long as Lelouch stays on his side of the hemisphere, I don't think the UFN will not have any beef with him. I mean, even Lelouch can't use his magical power ten million miles away. Though I hope Ougi isn't stupid enough to try to assassinate him just so he doesn't get in trouble with the UFN.:uhoh:I still have a bad feeling about Ohgi. I'm afraid he's going to do something stupid, or rather get Tamaki to do something stupid.
I still have a bad feeling about Ohgi. I'm afraid he's going to do something stupid, or rather get Tamaki to do something stupid.
By this, do you mean Ougi telling Tamaki to do something important and being Tamaki, he screws it up or that Ougi tells to do something that's just stupid from the very beginning? Or... do you mean Ougi doesn't directly order Tamaki, but wink winks nudge nudges Tamaki?
morbosfist
2008-09-04, 23:43
By this, do you mean Ougi telling Tamaki to do something important and being Tamaki, he screws it up or that Ougi tells to do something that's just stupid from the very beginning? Or... do you mean Ougi doesn't directly order Tamaki, but wink winks nudge nudges Tamaki?He already told Tamaki that Zero has to die. I'm afraid he'll get a bit more insistent with that order.
FoxxFireArt
2008-09-04, 23:45
Does it being a joke count? xD but I still pray for atleast one kiss seeing almost every other female that likes lelouch has been kissed while Kallen being the only one that hasn't yet.
She is the only love interest of the three who never got one kiss, but two near misses.
He already told Tamaki that Zero has to die. I'm afraid he'll get a bit more insistent with that order.
Despite Ougi's position... I don't believe he's actually ordered anyone before.
Kang Seung Jae
2008-09-04, 23:47
A fanboy speculation (non-serious :heh:) of what will happen in the Lelouch-Kallen meeting:
(Lelouch contacts Kallen)
Lelouch: Could you meet me near Ashford?
Kallen: Er.... okay....
(In the Ashford Clubhouse, after a bit of small talk)
Kallen: Lelouch, I've been meaning to ask you something.
Lelouch: Yes?
Kallen: What am I to you? Please tell me the truth.
Lelouch: Er.....
(At this momoent Rivalz comes in)
Rivalz (talking to someone): Really, I still can't believe Lelouch is.... What?!?!?! Kallen and Lelouch are here?!?!?!
Kallen (Getting angry): Rivalz, would you mind going outside?
(Milly comes in)
Milly: Oh sorry Kallen, I'll just take this guy outside ^_^
(Rivalz and Milly goes out)
Kallen: Now, Lelouch, what's your answer?
Lelouch: Kallen, to me you are.....
(Lelouch's cell phone rings)
Lelouch: WHAT IS IT?!?!?!
Suzaku: Lelouch, Schneizel has appeared over Mt. Fuji, with the Knight of Rounds.
Lelouch: All right, I'll get to the mothership.
(Lelouch starts going out)
Kallen: Lelouch!
Lelouch: To answer your question..... Kallen, to me you are someone special. (Goes on a bit)
Kallen: Hurry up and go, then come back. You promised that you'll make me smile!
A complete fantasy, yes, but still, one can hope :heh:
Skellington2612
2008-09-04, 23:48
Please you two. How could you fall for something so painfully obvious? The fact there was a spoiler tag added should of been your first hint.
Well, the fact that I just got 2 hours of sleep and that I was making a quick check.... and search for something that makes my week better... that was cruel...
completely random epiphany. there twas a lot of speculation on anya being a daughter of marianne, especially when those pics of marianne as a knight (noticeably the hair) appeared, which we now know is not true.
Guessing Marianne subconsciously affected her preferred hairstyle, and a lot of Anya's life from there. Makes me wonder if Anya would have made a good KMF pilot at all if not for Marianne's interference. She had come to Aries to learn deportment not piloting after all.
Didn't Anya just arrived there one week before Marianne got murdered?
For manner lessons and didn't Anya have to go to schooling to become a KMF pilot and subconsciously she might got some of the skills from Marianne.
with all these spoilers and the all-but-confirmed idea that Nunnally is alive (if I remember, the magazines said one thing for 21 but mindeffing ensued instead)... well, i always knew that CG would be a shit-hits-the-fan-fest
anyways, my thoughts: should the magazines be right for 23, then somehow I see an EvilBitch!Nunnally going against Lelouch, and that very well could destroy him (I have seen the picture). Otherwise, I'm hoping she might just die for real... every since Shirley died, I've had it out for all those close to lelouch, hoping they all die, and then lelouch himself. Somehow though, I don't think this will happen, but when it comes to CG... well, just take a look at my siggy for that
And if what I've read about a few lines in 21 is true... then I think we're going to have a TTGL type ending... and I mean after the final battle is won. After all, Lelouch's line (or whoever said the part about dead being dead) is almost identical to Simon's
I can totally see a TTGL ending happening in this series. Lulu dead or a TTGL ending.
Sprite_Coke
2008-09-05, 00:02
Lelouch promised C.C. that he'd make her smile, not Kallen.
Witacume
2008-09-05, 00:02
Lelouch promised C.C. that he'd make her smile, not Kallen.
To smile as she died XD
I can totally see a TTGL ending happening in this series. Lulu dead or a TTGL ending.
I'd be happier if Lelouch died in addition to TTGL type ending, but I fear he may end up the same as Simon
Lelouch finally going GAR I don't see that for some reason but if he ends up as Simon I would be kinda depress.
TTGL had a perfect true ending though.
Eiontalos
2008-09-05, 00:06
Lelouch promised C.C. that he'd make her smile, not Kallen.
"Fanboy speculation" and "Complete fantasy" were both used in his post so it doesn't really matter if Lelouch actually promised that to C.C.
TTGL's ending made me numb... and I'm not talking about Lelouch going GAR, I'm talking about going through all this crap and surviving it all, gaining everything, only to lose it all once more and be left wandering around the world as a nobody (and in lelouch's case, being a nobody again.. and no Boota either)
Didn't he promised her that in episode 15? correct me if I'm wrong
Is it possible for Nunnally's eyes to open by Geass only since Charles sealed her eyes with Geass (either that or Orange's Geass Canceller)? Like hell I want to see Lelouch dead! Then it would be completely pointless if he built it all up just to die. Amnesia perhaps, but death is not suitable for him after all Lelouch went through and then end up with nothing accomplished.
yamibakura
2008-09-05, 00:09
I hope Ohgi decides to act againt Lelouch. I really do. So I can see him fail. I don't mind if Tohdo and Tamaki and company are all good, but Ohgi. He was keeping secrets himself all of season 2 and 3/5 of season 1. He made the decision to betray Zero. Still, even if Schneizel had declined Ohgi's condition, they would have betrayed Zero anyway. That is the reason Schneizel was surprised because Ohgi actually did something... a commander/negotiator would do. He even said it himself in season 1 hes not cut out to be a commander. Its a damn good thing Xingke is the Black Knights 2nd in command. Oh wait. Ohgi is keeping secrets from Kaguya, Tianzi, and Xingke. Viletta is no better as she lets this go on. Though what can she do now. Shes there for love. Shes more a victim anyways. So Ohgi is the real bastard. His annoying 'evilish / angry' expressions we've been seeing ever since around episode 12 are turning out to make me hate him. Not so much hate, but he is reminding me of Suzaku's expressions when it came to the subject of Lelouch/Zero earlier in the season all the way until the beginning of episode 17. Ever since then Suzaku turned himself around. Ohgi keeps getting worse. Maybe it will stem off here. Hell I didn't like Suzaku with a passion, but I do like him after observing his resolve and in retrospect turns out pretty cool. Yet even when Ohgi was innocent, I never liked him at all for some reason. He's like the most important VIP mook in the series. Not really hes a supporting character, but he annoys the hell out of me. Poor Tamaki.. I've actually come to like him.
Knight of Zero. Emperor Lelouch. I look forward to seeing Ohgi's reaction and Kaguya/Xingke's response. Diethard is smart hanging with Schneizel. Not right, but smart. Tamaki as well.
It's called being the Tragic hero
seems to be a popular theme in anime these days (and one I personally hate to hell... I'm sorry, I'm a happy-ending-even-if-pulled-through-Deus-ex-Machina kind of guy)
Tragic heroes end in a way utmost form might possibly be GAR although I'm not sure about GAR's meaning since I got flamed too much by using the word.
It's called being the Tragic hero
seems to be a popular theme in anime these days (and one I personally hate to hell... I'm sorry, I'm a happy-ending-even-if-pulled-through-Deus-ex-Machina kind of guy)
So? All the leads in the other shows Taniguchi directed were tragic heroes of one sort or another, but they all turned out alright in the end.
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