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eMpTy265
2003-11-03, 20:30
So, what do you think of Akane?
Lst2touchdasky
2003-11-03, 20:54
Shes much more moraled the the blue haired b****
Kamui4356
2003-11-03, 21:03
Akane is justified for hating Mitsuki, but not for the reasons she has, so I picked that she's misinformed. I'm sure if Akane knew that it was Mitsuki who made Takayuki late, she'd hate her a lot more.
i agree with both previous posts, but i do think she has reason to hate mitsuki for taking advantage of Haruka's situation. Mitsuki is all shady business, i don't like her and i support Akane 100%. I do think Akane is more complex than that also.
I think she a little bit of a bitch,although while being a caring sister,she did not know that harukas parents told him not to come anymore.And if she knew how tayakui(thinks is his name) life was,she might let up on mitsuki and doing whatever was nesscary to make his life better.
Gina-bunny
2003-11-03, 21:37
I definitely think she's justified in her dislike of Mitsuki. Mitsuki was a person Akane could look up to on the swim team and her sister's best friend. I even feel betrayed by the actions of Mitsuki. I know she liked Takayuki and all, but to date her best friend's boyfriend while she's defenseless to fight for her man seems kinda low.
Well, she cares a lot for her sister, that's for sure. But once she forms an option she does not try and change it. I mean, she did not try and understand takayuki and mitsuki's decision, which is sad, since a lot of stuff takes place behind her back...
Well, she cares a lot for her sister, that's for sure. But once she forms an option she does not try and change it. I mean, she did not try and understand takayuki and mitsuki's decision, which is sad, since a lot of stuff takes place behind her back...so far it hasn't shown that they tried to explain it to Akane so as far as the info she has been given her actions are justified
The reason why neither of them try to explain things to Akane is that they both feel guilty as hell.
What's Mitsuki going to tell her? It was just a mistake? That's a complete lie, and she doesn't have the stomach for lying about her feelings anymore. Sorry for betraying your trust in me? Sorry that I was banging your onii-chan and my best friend's boyfriend while you were visiting her in the hospital? Sorry that I betrayed your sister's freindship?
That's a tough spot to be in when you feel as guilty and low as Mitsuki does. She can't set Akane straight because she herself feels she is a traitor.
Village Idiot
2003-11-03, 23:13
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How do you put spoiler tags?
brightman
2003-11-03, 23:17
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How do you put spoiler tags?
I think GHDPro will work that one in tomorrow or something, but for now you can do something like this:
[ b]SPOILERS[/b]
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(Get rid of spaces in tags)
Akane's the best o_O
They need to show more of her, and less of the pissed off her
eMpTy265
2003-11-04, 00:52
Akane's the best o_O
They need to show more of her, and less of the pissed off her
I sure hope they do.
But unfortunately, unless the story goes towards the Haruka or Akane ending, the Akane we'll see is most likely going to be the PO'ed one.
brightman
2003-11-04, 00:53
Akane's the best o_O
They need to show more of her, and less of the pissed off her
Yeah, that's why it would have been nice if they didn't cut out so much of Akane's scenes (with Haruka in the beach and stuff) in the "prologue"... But I guess they had to stuff the accident in the end of Ep 2 there so people would not quit and say that it's another cheesy storyless romance like what they did with Ep 1... :nono:
I think Akane's misinformed. She has the right to scold Mitsuki but she doesn't know how much pain Mitsuki has to suffer. I guess she's a little bit too young to understand life. She will be more forgiving if she is older and more experienced.
Okay, I'll out myself as a weirdo and probably a special case: I really like Akane alot, but I have a feeling that the anime will go in Mitsuki's direction, and I like Mitsuki alot.
To me it seems that Akane does not know the whole story yet. Remember the teary Akane in ep5 over that "others were saying bad things about Mitsuki, while they know nothing"? That's exactly what she's now doing herself - and I would almost expect her to realize it one day.
Also keep in mind that she's caught Mitsuki and Takayuki _immediately_ after Mitsuki made her move (a fact Akane did not know, just as it's explicitly made clear that she did not know that her parents have just told Takayuki not to return) - so she is jumping to conclusions, that Mitsuki has been with Takayuki behind her back "zutto" (right from the start).
So why do I like her so much? Because she's got such a caring nature, a strong will and a strong dedication. Obviously visiting her comatose sister daily for 3 years. I expect Akane to become Haruka's strongest ally to win back Takayuki, just like it was thanks to her to a huge degree that Haruka and Takayuki made progress in the first place.
People like her make the best and most precious friends there are. With her misunderstanding going on, considering her youth, and under the extreme circumstances her overzealous hatred for Mitsuki is easily forgiven :)
PS: Her role in this drama is more than just being the whip for the evil Mitsuki, as the Haruka camp seems to reduce her to *winks*
Actually...by the time Akane walked in on Mitsuki in Narumi's bed, they had been sleeping together for at least a few days. And Mitsuki can't say anything to Akane because she herself feels that she is a traitor deep down. She was the one who had been carrying around a desire for Narumi for all those years. She just broke down and basically stole him from Haruka -- even though she's in a coma, she's far from dead, and the feeling is very real. So when Akane comes out and calls her a shameless slut, Mitsuki just takes it because that's how she feels deep down. And to her credit, she doesn't get defensive over it, just accepts that she deserves to be called out.
Actually...by the time Akane walked in on Mitsuki in Narumi's bed, they had been sleeping together for at least a few days. And Mitsuki can't say anything to Akane because she herself feels that she is a traitor deep down. She was the one who had been carrying around a desire for Narumi for all those years. She just broke down and basically stole him from Haruka -- even though she's in a coma, she's far from dead, and the feeling is very real. So when Akane comes out and calls her a shameless slut, Mitsuki just takes it because that's how she feels deep down. And to her credit, she doesn't get defensive over it, just accepts that she deserves to be called out.
I don't think this is correct. Akane is shown wondering why Onii-chan hasn't come today and if he's sick and decides to check on him. That's probably the day after Mitsuki "tackled" Takayuki. Akane however is obviously convinced that Mitsuki had been with Takayuki like this "zutto", and we as the audience know that this isn't true.
I'm still amazed about the hostility level displayed towards Mitsuki ;) ... I think not even Akane called her a "slut". How guilt-ridden Mitsuki is is fairly obvious - but a slut she is not, and under the given conditions, I find it hard to see her a traitor either.
uLTraCarL-
2003-11-04, 04:32
power to the hostility towards Mitsuki
even if Akane was misinformed, even if she did not know what was up. She is still better than Mitsuki. Why? because Mitsuki is the backstabber!
Yeah she had those feelings and such, and she knows she is the reason for the accident. Yet she goes and breaks down to Takayuki, a guy who looked like he wasn't living anymore, with nothing to look forward too in life and just living his life like a bum. She basically, yes, stole him from the unconscious Haruka. I have no sympathy for Mitsuki. Akane has every right to call her this and that, even if she was misinformed
power to the hostility towards Mitsuki
even if Akane was misinformed, even if she did not know what was up. She is still better than Mitsuki. Why? because Mitsuki is the backstabber!
Yeah she had those feelings and such, and she knows she is the reason for the accident. Yet she goes and breaks down to Takayuki, a guy who looked like he wasn't living anymore, with nothing to look forward too in life and just living his life like a bum. She basically, yes, stole him from the unconscious Haruka. I have no sympathy for Mitsuki. Akane has every right to call her this and that, even if she was misinformed
It's been thanks to Mitsuki that he did NOT end up as a bum, you know. Without her, he probably would have gone over the edge. And from a grown-up perspective, while without her holding Takayuki up the accident may not have taken place, she's not really "responsible" for it. Moreover, if she would have done the "right" thing to do from your point of view, and removed herself from Takayuki when the pain became too much for her to bear, would he have lasted the next 2 years? He was about to carry a comatose patient out of the hospital, for crying out loud :)
Well, the nice thing about this anime is that it's stirring up deep emotions and allowing to root for different camps. Also, it's not clear yet how this anime is going to progress and end, because I wouldn't put it past the author to shock the audience again by diverging from the game in the end ;)
heh... note that mitsuki is sort of like akane's idol or role model, to see her steal away takayuki would surely break her heart 2 fold...
but u can't blame akane on that tho, she has her right to be angry... beautiful family, a brother in-law that she can bully, it totally break apart after the accident... :sad:
and I really wonder what mitsuki was doing naked and alone in bed... :eyespin:
well, takayuki went out to buy some stuffs, and would return shortly, that leaves the door open, and such fateful coincidence akane has to show up at that time, and then poor akane... sometimes it's better to know nothing
Lol...I wonder if it occured to her that while she was waiting at the hospital they were "doing it" at his place. Ouch.
beanieboy007
2003-11-04, 11:47
Akane felt personally betrayed by Mitsuki, that is a hard thing to forget.
What makes her kinda odd in my mind is that she still suports Takayuki, even though it takes 2 to tango.
I would have thought she would have had more animosity towards him as he was the one late to see Haruka & he was her boyfriend who then fell into Mitski's ... ummm, arms.
That said,... I dont know if she was aware her parents told Takayuki not to see Haruka again, it would say a bit more about her weither she did or not.
**as I think about it more: she probably did have the animosity towards him, thus putting off calling him after she woke up**
i think Akane knows exactly how Takayuki feels, and also how Mitsuki feels. Thing is that she cannot accept Mitsuki's 'betrayal' [which is in fact the succumbing to her own feelings] under any circumstance. Especially when Haruka, best friend of Mitsuki, in a coma AND in love with Takayuki.
{I think i'm starting not to make sense}
I think Akane is justified. She might of not meant a few things she said or feel guilty about it though. You can't blame her for being pissed at Mitsuki (ho).
Another thing, I wouldn't say it was Mitsuki's fault at ALL for the accident. Takayuki was already running late. And he chose to stay and buy her that ring. He could of just said he was running really late and we can do something for your birthday later. I'm sure Mitsuki would of undstanded that.
heh... note that mitsuki is sort of like akane's idol or role model, to see her steal away takayuki would surely break her heart 2 fold...
but u can't blame akane on that tho, she has her right to be angry... beautiful family, a brother in-law that she can bully, it totally break apart after the accident... :sad:
I agree, I don't think she will ever forgive Mitsuki, or Takayuki since both of them disappointed her. Makes me wonder why she still continues swimming (since Mitsuki was her rolemodel as a swimmer), maybe its like revenge since Mitsuki failed as a swimmer so Akane can prove that she is better...
And in her point of view Takayuki abandoned her sister, it took a long time before she told them that Haruka has waken up.
eMpTy265
2003-11-04, 19:01
i think Akane knows exactly how Takayuki feels, and also how Mitsuki feels. Thing is that she cannot accept Mitsuki's 'betrayal' [which is in fact the succumbing to her own feelings] under any circumstance. Especially when Haruka, best friend of Mitsuki, in a coma AND in love with Takayuki.
{I think i'm starting not to make sense}
I can't imaging what would happen if Akane ends up falling for Takayuki...as she did in the game, in several endings
I wonder what would she think of Mitsuki then?
(well... I suppose she'd still hate her, but probably for different reasons now...)
Still... as of right now, Akane's still my favourite character. She's just too misinformed, and it's sad to see that she's making matter worse for Mitsuki and Takayuki... (if it wasn't bad enough)
i think she's just a little snooping and jealous bitch. i mean come on, she just walks into takayuki's apartment and gets pissed cuz he's moved on and slept with mitsuki. she just wants takayuki for herself and uses her sis as an excuse
if takayuki ends up with mitsuki, that means akane will lose this onii-chan. Another of those brother-sister complex in anime...
KendoFoxx
2003-11-05, 20:05
At the risk of sounding like a broken record and repeating what a few people have said already I think Akane is justified in her anger towards Mitsuki and Takuyuki, but that is only because of the data she has to work with. I think she was happy that Takuyuki was sticking around with her sister long after the accident put her in the coma. I'm not sure she noticed his deterioating condition.
When he started dating her sisters best friend, in her opinion Takuyuki has become a coward because he seemingly gave up waiting for her sister to wake up. To make matters worse, she feels betrayed because the person she thought she could confide in was the one who Takuyuki started dating. I believe she calls Takuyuki a coward which is true in some contexts because he didn't have the will power to come see Haruka on his own. Its too bad her anger blinds her to the gesture of them coming there together to confront their. That's pretty brave on both their parts.
Akane acted like any sister would. If it were me, I would have said the same things and done the same things. I think her hatred towards Mitsuki are more pronounced because Mitsuki was her idol. She was let down and in her view, betrayed.
Of course, us seeing the storyline progress in an different viewpoint shows (some of)us that Mitsuki isn't as horrible as Akane really thinks. Akane just built her up so much, that it was a long and hard fall when she found out that Mitsuki is, in fact, human.
So while she calls Takiyuki a coward and Mitsuki everything else in the book, I don't blame her. I can't agree with her, but I don't blame her.
Acespeedy
2003-11-06, 03:27
God look at yourselves, Mitsuki the backstabber...exactly HOW is she backstabbing.....by acting like a human being and acting on her feelings??????Look at reality,life must go on, people must move on in life....This anime is trying to deal with similar real life situations.
Durandal
2003-11-06, 03:46
Akane seems justified to us because she may be right, but for the wrong reasons. She has a right to hate Mitsuki, after all she did steal Takayuki, which delayed him and caused the accident to happen. If you notice she was probably in the phone booth trying to call Takayuki when it happened. But this is not her reason for her hatred. It is our reason to justify her actions, and why Mitsuki accepts her hate instead of denying it. While Akane may hate her for nothing more than her compassion, which to some of us may appear to be self driven in nature. Mitsuki loves Takayuki but in being a care-giver resulted in her being a lover as well. Akane only knows what she wants to perceive. She walked in on Mitsuki, and needed nothing else. Somewhere in here I had a point...
Akane seems justified to us because she may be right, but for the wrong reasons. She has a right to hate Mitsuki, after all she did steal Takayuki, which delayed him and caused the accident to happen. If you notice she was probably in the phone booth trying to call Takayuki when it happened. But this is not her reason for her hatred. It is our reason to justify her actions, and why Mitsuki accepts her hate instead of denying it. While Akane may hate her for nothing more than her compassion, which to some of us may appear to be self driven in nature. Mitsuki loves Takayuki but in being a care-giver resulted in her being a lover as well. Akane only knows what she wants to perceive. She walked in on Mitsuki, and needed nothing else. Somewhere in here I had a point...
Okay, I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Maybe it's the way you worded it... I don't think Akane is justified to hate Mitsuki because she inadvertently caused the accident--she hates her because her loyalties lie with her sister, first and foremost. That's pretty much it. She finds that her sister's best friend, also Akane's idol, has slept with Takayuki...that's justifiable in itself. The rest of that really doesn't come into play.
Durandal
2003-11-06, 14:14
Ah, but what I pointed out is not the reason she hates Mitsuki, but the reason that we as viewers can sympathize with both of them. We have knowledge of the plot that Akane doesn't. If we only knew what Akane knows, then she would appear cold, unfeeling and childish.
Since we understand Mitsuki's point of view we can sympathize with her as well. It's a very complicated story when you look at it in detail. Because the characters are not flat, static characters. They change and grow. There are complex feelings and motives. In other words they are like real people. I don't think that it is as simple as you percieve it to be.
Ah, but what I pointed out is not the reason she hates Mitsuki, but the reason that we as viewers can sympathize with both of them. We have knowledge of the plot that Akane doesn't. If we only knew what Akane knows, then she would appear cold, unfeeling and childish.
Oh okay, this I agree with...as stated in my first post.
Of course, us seeing the storyline progress in an different viewpoint shows (some of)us that Mitsuki isn't as horrible as Akane really thinks. Akane just built her up so much, that it was a long and hard fall when she found out that Mitsuki is, in fact, human.
Since we understand Mitsuki's point of view we can sympathize with her as well. It's a very complicated story when you look at it in detail. Because the characters are not flat, static characters. They change and grow. There are complex feelings and motives. In other words they are like real people. I don't think that it is as simple as you percieve it to be.
Well, I'm not trying to say that they are flat and static, I'm just saying it's simple reasoning to figure out why Akane hates Mitsuki. Mitsuki betrayed her AND her sister in her eyes. If she hadn't, Akane wouldn't hate her. I am keeping things purely in Akane's perspective. Notice I didn't mention any other factor since, to Akane, there is no other factor.
Durandal
2003-11-10, 23:55
Perhaps we should revamp this poll since Akane is just now starting to get a decent amount of screen time. Or maybe wait a little longer. Do you think it would throw the show off balance if Takayuki started to go after Akane, or if she started going after him since he doesn't really persue anyone.
eMpTy265
2003-11-11, 00:13
Do you think it would throw the show off balance if Takayuki started to go after Akane, or if she started going after him since he doesn't really persue anyone.
Actually, I'm hoping for that to happen.
Well not the Takayuki actively pursuing Akane part...
but Akane losing control and confessing to Takayuki, I'm definately hoping for it.
I wonder what she'll think of Mitsuki after that.
Then again, her hatred towards Mitsuki is 1.) Misinformation, 2.) Jealousy
eMpTy265
2003-11-11, 00:16
Perhaps we should revamp this poll since Akane is just now starting to get a decent amount of screen time.
Can someone teach me how to reset the poll and it's choices?
I want to reset it, but I don't know how.
*apologizes for my lack of ability*
Actually, I'm hoping for that to happen.
Well not the Takayuki actively pursuing Akane part...
but Akane losing control and confessing to Takayuki, I'm definately hoping for it.
I wonder what she'll think of Mitsuki after that.
Then again, her hatred towards Mitsuki is 1.) Misinformation, 2.) Jealousy
i hope not Akane deserves better
eMpTy265
2003-11-11, 18:02
i hope not Akane deserves better
Well, I think she deserves better also.
But if things are as they are in the game, Akane's had feelings for Takayuki ever since the accident happened.
(Probably developed from respecting Takayuki's persistence during the 1 year of the accident...)
If things follow the game, in both Akane's ending and Mitsuki's ending, Akane confesses to Takayuki.
Yes, she does feel guilty, and she wants to let it out.
I think it would probably be worse for Akane to hold it all in until she collapses... probably better for her to let it out. And whether the results work to make her happier, that's another story.
Cuz right now Akane's battling with herself, as well as her hatred which is not justified..
outlaw55
2003-11-15, 23:00
someone needs to shoot that girl, she is an annoying unrealistic byach!!!
akane is a confused little child. Sometimes she needs to be bitch slap ... expecially the statement she made to mitsuki when she attempt to visit hakura in the hospital.
/me feels weird knowing anime names ...
Akane's watched her personal world self-destruct in a very short period of time. The betrayal and destruction of that which she loved or held in high regard. All in a short period of time, and all at an age not equipped to handle such devistation. When hurt, it's natural to strike back.
Also note that the older Takayuki refuses to treat her like an enemy. He soaks Akane's bitter anger, and tries to be friendly with her still. It'll be interesting, though, to see how Mitsuki deals with Akane now that she's made her open decleration of war by moving into Takayuki's place.
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-18, 20:17
i hate her... i mean.. its not his fault at all. he went insane, and after being banned from seeing haruka, by her parents, mitsuki took advantage of his feelings...
i cant believe that akane is so weak and spiteful, that the only thing that wakes her up in the morning is hating those two (the main reason she swims is to prove she is better than mitsuki)... hell, she even flaunts going to the hospital for visitationas as proof she is better.
and someone said that it was mitsuki's fault for the accident... im sorry i missed where they said she was the one driving the car -_-
i hate her... i mean.. its not his fault at all. he went insane, and after being banned from seeing haruka, by her parents, mitsuki took advantage of his feelings...
i cant believe that akane is so weak and spiteful, that the only thing that wakes her up in the morning is hating those two (the main reason she swims is to prove she is better than mitsuki)... hell, she even flaunts going to the hospital for visitationas as proof she is better.
and someone said that it was mitsuki's fault for the accident... im sorry i missed where they said she was the one driving the car -_-
umm mitsuki didn't take advantage of anything. mmmk? k.
But I agree with the rest of your statement, however if mitsuki did continue focusing on her swimming career, I believe she would be better then akane.
I think your scenario of how she wakes up in the morning and start hating is abit exaggerated. I still think Akane's hatred for Mitsuki is justified ehough, you would be too when you are put into her shoes. Her family was happy and complete, a flash of car headlights and everything lays in tatters after that. Her sister is in coma, his future brother-in-law can't stop griefing. Then came along Mitsuki and took another member of her family away.
Let's face it, when you are damn angry, all you will think of is how the perpetrator has crossed you. And what can you expect from Akane who's always so outright and quick to say how she feels, you probably won't see her putting herself in Mitsuki's shoe either. Even if she did, I bet she won't be able to fully comprehend Mitsuki's inner turmoils. :upset:
If my guess of what you were refering to is correct, I think you misunderstood the flaunting part. It wasn't Akane who spread the news of her win, it was her proud mother. :p
umm mitsuki didn't take advantage of anything. mmmk? k.
Except Takayuki when he was in a fragile state of mind.
Listen, I don't hate Mitsuki, but why is this so hard to understand? I realize that she thought she was helping him. That doesn't mean that she didn't unconciously take advantage of him. She's not an evil hell bitch or anything, but that doesn't mean her act wasn't selfish. It was human, humans are selfish.
She's not some super heroine out to save Takayuki with her magical vagina. He was hurting, she had sex with him to take both his and her mind off it. And it didn't really help him deal with his feelings in the long run.
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-19, 14:49
takayuki had no one... he was abbandoned by the only family (haruka's) he had, told he was not allowed to see the girl he 'loved'
the girl who he originally liked, and had been taking care of him to the point where he depened on her, shows up naked while all he needs is a friend to comfort him. i would say thats taking advantage of him. and even if akane's anger IS justified.. she needs to see a psychiatrist, because its been 2 years since this happened, and you shouldnt be angry for something like this for 2 years.
and i dont think akane hates mitsuki for taking her brother away, if so, she is very selfish and childish for that too...
and also the main reason why i have stretched akanes behavior is because alot of people made ludicrous remarks about why mitsuki is an evil bitch(mainly the 'she is responsible for the accident')
mitsuki was comforting and being his friend since the accident. And after all that time, taka was still a walking zombie.
eMpTy265
2003-11-19, 19:08
umm mitsuki didn't take advantage of anything. mmmk? k.
But I agree with the rest of your statement, however if mitsuki did continue focusing on her swimming career, I believe she would be better then akane.
Heh... This board has some astounding insights sometimes.
But seriously, if Mistuki continued her swimming career she would have left town years ago and she would not have hooked up with Takayuki.
heh... thanks to the magical 'doreamon swim cap =P', Mitsuki's hair wouldn't have made a difference.
Hmm... assuming the accident did happen, would Mitsuki leave town?... then again... probably... maybe to escape the grief...
But even if Mitsuki did continue to swim, if she ended up with Takayuki, wouldn't she be worn out often?
So wouldn't Akane still beat her?
and even if akane's anger IS justified.. she needs to see a psychiatrist, because its been 2 years since this happened, and you shouldnt be angry for something like this for 2 years.
and i dont think akane hates mitsuki for taking her brother away, if so, she is very selfish and childish for that too...
and also the main reason why i have stretched akanes behavior is because alot of people made ludicrous remarks about why mitsuki is an evil bitch(mainly the 'she is responsible for the accident')
Just to clarify:
Akane's hatred of Mitsuki is partially caused by the lack of information that she had, and probably because the incident could be considered a 'childhood trauma'
From her point of view, because of the accident her family was torn to shreads.
First, she loses her sister through the accident.
Then, her 'brother' goes nearly insane. (I think she saw that, if nothing else)
To make things worse, Mitsuki, Akane's childhood idol / mentor, ends up taking Takayuki.
(And from Akane's view, Mitsuki was tricking her from the start... when in fact she supported Takayuki for 1 year before giving in.)
I'm not saying that Akane's behaviour is justified, but that she also has her reasons for hating Mitsuki.
Just like Takayuki has his reasons for being so indecisive right now, and Mitsuki has reasons for clinging onto Takayuki.
Nonetheless, the only thing that we can be more/less sure of, is that the ending isn't going to be completely happy, no matter what rosy-coloured glasses one wears.
Key Board
2003-11-19, 19:19
Heh... This board has some astounding insights sometimes.
But seriously, if Mistuki continued her swimming career she would have left town years ago and she would not have hooked up with Takayuki.
And Takayuki would have either died from poor health conditions, comitted suicide or abducted by a psychotic green haired nurse.
eMpTy265
2003-11-19, 19:24
And Takayuki would have either died from poor health conditions, comitted suicide or abducted by a psychotic green haired nurse.
ROFL
The minami(did I get the name right?) ending is REALLY disturbing...
but it seems that the new ending on the DVD version is a little better.
but I digress...
heh... but maybe if Mitsuki left town, Akane would end up taking after her precious onii-chan. =D
Then I'd get the KGNE story that I wanted. =D
Key Board
2003-11-19, 19:30
heh... but maybe if Mitsuki left town, Akane would end up taking after her precious onii-chan. =D
Then I'd get the KGNE story that I wanted. =D
Quite possible, but I don't think Akane had the leisure time to spend on Takayuki with her being a high school girl and all.
She also has to give some of her attention to Haruka.
I doubt a young high school girl could manage all of that.
ROFL
The minami(did I get the name right?) ending is REALLY disturbing...
Erhm ... what IS this ending all about? I've heard 4-5 references about it, but noone ever bothered to give a spoiler. It must be REALLY crude it seems, so I'm getting curious *lol*
eMpTy265
2003-11-19, 19:48
Erhm ... what IS this ending all about? I've heard 4-5 references about it, but noone ever bothered to give a spoiler. It must be REALLY crude it seems, so I'm getting curious *lol*
OK, first I'll confess that I'm NOT japanese, and that I only understood about 10% of the game.
Basically, the green haired nurse (who I believe is called Minami or manami or something like that), gets involved with Takayuki.
They get together (and yes she's one of the more 'aggressive' partners), and then I think Takayuki wants out.
So basically, after 'getting free' of Minami, Takayuki's life gets screwed over, (e.g. Minami messes with Mitsuki's/Haruka's mind I think...). And when Haruka wakes up from her 2nd coma, Minami doesn't tell Takayuki etc.
So Takayuki goes to talk to Minami, and as he's about to leave, Minami knocks Takayuki unconscious.
When Takayuki wakes up, he's tied onto Minami's bed, and he's kept there as a 'slave' for a while... (can't remember how long)
(during which he endures many forms of abuse)
When he's finally able to come out, he realizes that his home's been evicted, and Mitsuki ended with Shinji (i think).
Basically, Takayuki ends up back with Minami, but apparently Minami prefers feminine women ( I think).
So Takayuki cross-dresses, and then later undergoes surgery...
Pretty scary... now I await someone who understood the game completely to enlighten my ignorance / misinterpretation.
eMpTy265
2003-11-19, 19:50
Quite possible, but I don't think Akane had the leisure time to spend on Takayuki with her being a high school girl and all.
She also has to give some of her attention to Haruka.
I doubt a young high school girl could manage all of that.
Heh... either that or Takayuki dies / goes insane..
I suppose both would be fine with me...
Cuz it sort of pains me to see Takayuki hurting everyone, and I can't even blame him cuz he's a victim as well. =P
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-19, 20:03
Heh... either that or Takayuki dies / goes insane..
I suppose both would be fine with me...
Cuz it sort of pains me to see Takayuki hurting everyone, and I can't even blame him cuz he's a victim as well. =P
yeah... but its more of the parents/doctors who are hurting everyone... they are the ones who are telling him to lie to haruka... which is hurting him, akane, and mitsuki, and when the truth comes out, it cant possibly help haruka.
also they dont tell akane anything which helps strengthen her hatred of mitsuki and takayuki... but also... i think that akane REALLY needs a psychiatrist... they all probably need group couneling...
ROFL
heh... but maybe if Mitsuki left town, Akane would end up taking after her precious onii-chan. =D
Then I'd get the KGNE story that I wanted. =D
That is very likely based on the character portraited in Akane's route in the game. It would be interesting to add here that in one of the drama CD that featuring Akane, she did actually try to cheer up Takayuki by forcibly taking him out on a date. She apparently cared for Takayuki (in the drama CD) and was quite taken by him when she saw Takayuki coming to hospital everyday and couldn't think or do anything other than talking to Haruka and staying beside her.
Key Board
2003-11-19, 21:33
That is very likely based on the character portraited in Akane's route in the game. It would be interesting to add here that in one of the drama CD that featuring Akane, she did actually try to cheer up Takayuki by forcibly taking him out on a date. She apparently cared for Takayuki (in the drama CD) and was quite taken by him when she saw Takayuki coming to hospital everyday and couldn't think or do anything other than talking to Haruka and staying beside her.
Yeah, and it makes one of her ending very ironic.
Spoilers: highlight
In one the most hypocritical acts ever, she ends up taking Mitsuki's place; nursing and caring for him until the day Haruka re-awakens.
She ends up doing the exact thing Mitsuki has been doing. The cycle repeats itself.
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-19, 21:44
i dont think you are doing the spoiler thing right... i think it is [ spoiler] to start and [ /spoiler] to end it...
take away the spaces
testing the tag
I can imagine myself as Akane. ^^; I don't have the same personality as her at all, because I'm a shy and quiet person. But I would react exactly the same way in her place. That's why I can understand how she feels.
Akane has a big problem.. She has to lie to Haruka, and even though she's mad at Takayuki, she has to beg him to see her sister.
The only thing I disagree with her is that she blames everything on Mitsuki. I don't think it's only Mitsuki's fault, but like I said, I can imagine myself reacting the same way because Takayuki is the only one who makes her sister happy and who can save her and help her. He's her only hope.
Other than that, I think her hate for Mitsuki is justified in a way.. Because Mitsuki really betrayed Haruka. ...
takayuki had no one... he was abbandoned by the only family (haruka's) he had, told he was not allowed to see the girl he 'loved'
the girl who he originally liked, and had been taking care of him to the point where he depened on her, shows up naked while all he needs is a friend to comfort him. i would say thats taking advantage of him. and even if akane's anger IS justified.. she needs to see a psychiatrist, because its been 2 years since this happened, and you shouldnt be angry for something like this for 2 years.
and i dont think akane hates mitsuki for taking her brother away, if so, she is very selfish and childish for that too...
and also the main reason why i have stretched akanes behavior is because alot of people made ludicrous remarks about why mitsuki is an evil bitch(mainly the 'she is responsible for the accident') Don't you think he is close to madness wanting to carry Haruka out of her ward in the middle of the night? You may think its romantic, some people do too, but his actions were irrational and uncalled for. And I don't think the exhibition is opened at night anyway.
A doctor's responsibility is to take care of their patients and parents are supposed to be protective of their children. They all wish only the best for Haruka, I see nothing evil in doing what they did. If they are indeed evil, 80% of the parents and doctors in this world will be guilty of that? :heh:
About Takayuki being abandoned, you are right in a certain perspective. But don't you think every major character in this show has suffered in some ways or another? I will say all of them deserved better but Takayuki won't be at the top of my list. :)
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-20, 04:42
that paticular post wasnt meant to stress how her parents are evil... that one was meant to state that he was in a terrible state of mind and that mitsuki did take advantage of him at the time...
her parents are evil for not just making him stay away, but then begging him to come back, not telling akane the whole truth about anything(fueling her anger), and making(yes, they arent truly forcing him, but they kinda are) takayuki lie to haruka about everything, which is going to ruin(or at least damage) his releationship with her and mitsuki, and make akane even more angry
eMpTy265
2003-11-20, 12:58
Yeah, and it makes one of her ending very ironic.
Spoilers: highlight
In one the most hypocritical acts ever, she ends up taking Mitsuki's place; nursing and caring for him until the day Haruka re-awakens.
She ends up doing the exact thing Mitsuki has been doing. The cycle repeats itself.
Just out of curiousity, which ending was that?
You mean the one where Haruka falls into a permanent coma, and Akane becomes the surrogate mother of Haruka's child?
OK, first I'll confess that I'm NOT japanese, and that I only understood about 10% of the game.
Pretty scary... now I await someone who understood the game completely to enlighten my ignorance / misinterpretation.
SCARY!? If you understood Homura-san's ingenuity perfectly in Japanese, it far worse. Basically, you got the thing correct. Kudos to you. However, if one understood the text more definitively, you wouldn't want to play an another eroge- for at least a month...like I did.
It was a good thing I went cleared her last. Girls with glasses aren't my thing...
But on the DVD Specification version, there is a "jun-ai (true love) ending" for mana-mana (^^;) as well.
dragonstar13
2003-11-21, 07:44
Add another person to the I like Akane list.
I don't think everything Akane did was right, however I can understand her feelings. If I were in her shoes I'd be angry too. And at a time like this, you usually don't think, "Oh, maybe there be a reason why the guy my sister loved and her best friend slept together. There must be a reason." Although I do find that she did over do it a bit with Mitsuki at the hospital. But it's pretty normal for her to think of it that way. Especially with no clues giving her hints otherwise. She can't really read minds. And neither Mitsuki or Takayuki say anything to her. At least not yet, I've only seen up to episode 4. I like th fact that Akane remains strong-minded, aside her hatred for Mitsuki and Takuyuki, and tries to live a normal life while helping her sister.
I voted: A very caring sister, who is justified in hating Mitsuki
I'm sure anyone can understand what shes feeling after what Mitsuki and Takayuki did to her sister. Shit I would feel the same if I was in her shoes, I'll prolly be a little more violent though :heh: I think Haruka deserves better then him, well I think even Mitsuki should find someone else, maybe like me :D
Yeah... all three of them deserves someone better than Takayuki. It just amazes me why characters such as Takayuki and Keitarou always gets all the attention from girls. Such depiction always give me too much hope but never does it happen in real life. :heh:
Yeah... all three of them deserves someone better than Takayuki. It just amazes me why characters such as Takayuki and Keitarou always gets all the attention from girls. Such depiction always give me too much hope but never does it happen in real life. :heh:
now now you leave Keitarou-san alone hes the man, at least hes not as indecisive and weak willed as Takayuki. Did I mention Keitarou would prolly kick Takayuki ass any day.
Relax relax... he's definitely not as bad as Takayuki. :heh:
moose_and_squirrel
2003-11-21, 15:09
you are misunderstanding though.. its not if you were in her shoes would you do the same thing... its is what she thinks is right...
mitsuki DIDNT take away her whole family and ruin her life... which is why she isnt justified... whether or not you would feel she did if the same thing happened to you doesnt matter... she is misinformed, and if what she thinks happened DID happen, she probably would be justified, but since how she sees things is not 100% reality, her feelings are not justified...
Who is the one making the judgement on Akane to say she is not justified?
Its still us in the end isn't it? There isn't any heavenly set of rules that govern such things, everything is drawn out differently based on the human passing out that statement. The important thing is that the person judging must do it with an open mind. So in some sense, you still have to put yourself in her shoes to make any comments on her behaviour.
Its not like the previous topic where we discuss whether Haruka can dodge the car. We can't put ourself in her shoes because she is not any Wonder Woman, there were lots of unknown factor and her fate was mostly controlled by the driver not her.
Here we are talking about Akane's actions base on choice, how do you judge the choices made without putting yourself in her shoes? I still think its normal for people to be selfish and unreasonable when it concerns themselves. Like I said in my last post, she is still justified enough...
dragonstar13
2003-11-22, 14:43
Well it's not like she can really figure out what happened all by herself. And of course we have to put ourselves in her shoes first. Otherwise we'll just assume she's a stupid brat that knows nothing and shoots off her mouth all the time. When in reality, she's just watching out for her sister and angry that Haruka was betrayed. If Mitsuki actually took Akane to some place quiet, sat down, tell her everything she knew, Akane may be a little more understanding. Maybe though. I'm sure if she knew the reason why Takayuki was late that day she'd hate her even more. However, at least she'd know all the facts.
And yeah, I also agree with you on that all 3 girls deserve better then him.
If Mitsuki actually took Akane to some place quiet, sat down, tell her everything she knew, Akane may be a little more understanding. Maybe though. I'm sure if she knew the reason why Takayuki was late that day she'd hate her even more. However, at least she'd know all the facts. Yeah... but being the stubborn girl that I think she is, I think it's quite hard for Mitsuki to arrange a good talk with her. Its already been two years since Takayuki and Mitsuki are together, yet Akane is still so hostile. She needs to wake up man... :heh:
dragonstar13
2003-11-22, 18:09
I'm sure Mitsuki could pull/push/drag her some place. I wonder what she'll think of them then.
eMpTy265
2003-11-24, 23:55
Well...
With Akane's final line in ep.8, we may end up with a different view of her.
So, which one will it be?
What can't Akane stand? Hiding her feelings? Takayuki and Mitsuki being such disappointing people?
Maybe she's just getting cold in the rain?
Nonetheless, we'll find out soon whether Akane's is actually a hypocrite? or whether her morals will take her all the way down the righteous (though lonely) path...
eMpTy265
2003-12-09, 22:30
*BUMP*
Well... ep.10 sure showed us another side of Akane.
I'm expecting a great deal of viewers will have changed their views of Akane, so I'm bumping the topic up.
(I'm also expecting flames... so)
Matches.... check
Propane..... check
Fire extinguishers... uh... fire extinguishers? oh well...
Key Board
2003-12-09, 22:42
With 4 episodes left to go, there's still room to show more of Akane's psyche.
Both her good and nasty sides ^^
My opinions still haven't changed much since the last time I posted here.
Akane just couldn't hold her feelings back anymore and it just so happens she said it to Haruka of all people. If she just talked to someone instead of keeping her feelings bottled up inside this wouldn't have happen. I thought she had a perfect chance to tell Taka everything when they were together in ep10, but sadly it didn't happen. I sympathize with her the most.
senen goroshi
2003-12-09, 23:39
akane = pms + cold = pm scold .... i say she is one crazy girl
eMpTy265
2003-12-09, 23:46
akane = pms + cold = pm scold .... i say she is one crazy girl
ROFL... I never thought of it that way. =D
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