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Klashikari
2008-09-18, 09:55
Welcome to the discussion thread for School Rumble Third Term OVA, Episode 26 (second of 2).

Please note that at this point in time, we do not consider the School Rumble Third Term OVA (School Rumble San Gakki) to be licensed, nor as far as we can tell is it an MFI production (http://www.animesuki.com/doc.php/legal/mediafactory.html) unlike the previous seasons or OVA.

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Solafighter
2008-09-18, 10:05
Huh... The second ep of the ova... Cant wait.... :uhoh:

kenjiharima
2008-09-18, 20:07
Just watched the raws. They've skipped a few chapters. Rated it 8 since the animation was SR s1 quality and my favorite part was there. The bad ass Harima with the spiky hair tempting Harima to go back to his bad ass delinquent ways.

As for factions rejoice Tenma x Harima, Tenma x Karasuma and Harima c Eri fans since you get a fair share of scenes.

Overall NICE PIE. Harima...he gets creamed at the end by all the students of 2-C and it seems in the anime it isn't set years after. Also seeing the last episode all the students ied Harima and Harima as we all know looks exactly like KJ who is now the troll god of School Rumble is kinda the same. Harima gets blamed for making Tenma cry and KJ now is trolled by before fans.

As a side note watching this anime version kinda makes my stomach sick, since this is NOT THE PROPER WAY TO END IT, which leaves me confuse if I want more school rumble or do I let this go now...I miss the good old days way back years ago when SR was a great love comedy show. Is it the editors? Is it KJ? Is it REALLY TIME TO END IT? I think not...I'll recover after watching another anime...I think. No Batman Gotham Knight anime to save me from what Iam feeling today...It's just awful, seeing a the guy you route for all the time in the anime to end upped getting pied, though there are signs that Tenma is liking Harima now, but that doesn't just cut it. Hope they make an alternate ending or another OVA.

Play it Ray! Harima didn't sing in the anime btw.

kXNHdaYeuU8


I need another ending...

chester41
2008-09-18, 22:21
Just watched the raws. They've skipped a few chapters. Rated it 8 since the animation was SR s1 quality and my favorite part was there. The bad ass Harima with the spiky hair tempting Harima to go back to his bad ass delinquent ways.

As for factions rejoice Tenma x Harima, Tenma x Karasuma and Harima c Eri fans since you get a fair share of scenes.

Overall NICE PIE. Harima...he gets creamed at the end by all the students of 2-C and it seems in the anime it isn't set years after. Also seeing the last episode all the students ied Harima and Harima as we all know looks exactly like KJ who is now the troll god of School Rumble is kinda the same. Harima gets blamed for making Tenma cry and KJ now is trolled by before fans.

As a side note watching this anime version kinda makes my stomach sick, since this is NOT THE PROPER WAY TO END IT, which leaves me confuse if I want more school rumble or do I let this go now...I miss the good old days way back years ago when SR was a great love comedy show. Is it the editors? Is it KJ? Is it REALLY TIME TO END IT? I think not...I'll recover after watching another anime...I think. No Batman Gotham Knight anime to save me from what Iam feeling today...It's just awful, seeing a the guy you route for all the time in the anime to end upped getting pied, though there are signs that Tenma is liking Harima now, but that doesn't just cut it. Hope they make an alternate ending or another OVA.

Play it Ray! Harima didn't sing in the anime btw.

kXNHdaYeuU8


I need another ending...
I agree with you.SR is a great love comedy(or gags commedy for KJ :()
I need good ending,great conclusion but .. My hope is Lose

taichikun14
2008-09-18, 22:44
I loved it. I'm sad that such a great ride has come to an end, though. I was really looking forward to hearing Harima sing, though. :(

X10A_Freedom
2008-09-19, 03:14
The animation staff hasn't lost it at all. They had the sense to edit out Harima's lame "Tenma vision" in the end. Instead, he got pied instantly! :D

Shame KJ couldn't come up with anything better. Karasuma's vague illness is such a cop-out.

kenjiharima
2008-09-19, 04:18
Also btw all the episodes of Sangakki was aired in the DVD, In summary that is...narrated by mostly Hanai and Akira with the rest of the SR cast. This is the ONLY thing that clears things up for non manga readers.

Solafighter
2008-09-22, 12:45
I just watched it.

Well its nice to see something new from School Rumble. Drawing style like the 25th episode, same voice actors. Kinda same school rumble, even thought its different.


To bad, the ending in general is like expected.

Well thats all.. :upset:

The ending song with the szenes on the left were nice. It made me cry to think:"Thats all from this season." :upset:

Casshern
2008-09-23, 12:35
Is this how the manga ends as well?

Solafighter
2008-09-23, 12:37
Is this how the manga ends as well?

Hai... :rolleyes:

But the charpters after the second season and this end are good.. :)

Casshern
2008-09-23, 13:13
Hai... :rolleyes:

But the charpters after the second season and this end are good.. :)

Cool, thanks. I've been wanting to read the manga for ages but I never got around to it.

kenjiharima
2008-09-24, 09:59
Just watch out for the pie in the end of the anime it splats on the screen. Very Looney Toons. <_<

OctaBech
2008-09-24, 11:17
Cool, thanks. I've been wanting to read the manga for ages but I never got around to it.

Unless you desire to read the entire manga(which can be advised) I recommend reading from 167 which is roughly where the second season of the Anime left off, to 281 which in my humble opinion is the most satisfying way to end the series. :)

Sorrow-K
2008-09-27, 08:40
Hai... :rolleyes:

But the charpters after the second season and this end are good.. :)
So basically Kobayashi didn't have the balls to write an ending. Someone much wiser than myself predicted this would happen, but I was too optimistic to believe him.

Is it melodramatic to suggest that School Rumble is the biggest waste of potential in anime/manga this decade? I mean, Kobayashi writes these amazing characters, that are so sympathetic and multi-dimensional and complicated and, well, just brilliant. Yet he seemingly can't write a well-paced and well developed plotline to save his life. It's so disappointing because even in this episode you could see glimpses of the masterpiece it could have been shining through the occasional cracks of otherwise mediocrity. I can't help but just shake my head and utter "if only..."

Solafighter
2008-09-27, 10:22
Is it melodramatic to suggest that School Rumble is the biggest waste of potential in anime/manga this decade?


No.
I realy enjoyed the first 2 seasons and the mangas so for me, it would be never waste time. :cool:

Harimo Haria
2008-09-27, 11:40
What's the song that plays in the background during the scene where Harima and Tenma are sitting together at the airport waiting for Itoko? I know it's a variation of Kun he ~Kaze ni Nosete~ but what is it called? Does anyone have a youtube link possibly?

kk2extreme
2008-09-27, 11:43
it is almost like they wrapped up the series from whatever is left from the second season all the way to the end with just 2 ova. :twitch:

Solafighter
2008-09-27, 11:50
What's the song that plays in the background during the scene where Harima and Tenma are sitting together at the airport waiting for Itoko? I know it's a variation of Kun he ~Kaze ni Nosete~ but what is it called? Does anyone have a youtube link possibly?

Kun he ~Kaze ni Nosete~ (off vocal)


Search on youtube.com for this song. Im sure you´ll find something. ;)

Harimo Haria
2008-09-27, 17:20
Off vocal is just the guitar in the background. I believe it was more...piano-like?

Solafighter
2008-09-27, 18:11
Off vocal is just the guitar in the background. I believe it was more...piano-like?

Yeah, almost a kind of updated version of it. I dont think they will ever release a new OST for only 2 episodes with, i think only one new modification of a song. :heh:

Harimo Haria
2008-09-27, 18:57
It's been played throughout the original series, but since there isn't a music thread, and this is the current most popular topic, and it just so happens to be played, I decided to post it here.

Sorrow-K
2008-09-28, 01:11
No.
I realy enjoyed the first 2 seasons and the mangas so for me, it would be never waste time. :cool:
Err... that's not what I said. I said waste of potential, not waste of time.

CaptainSmoker
2008-09-28, 11:21
So basically Kobayashi didn't have the balls to write an ending. Someone much wiser than myself predicted this would happen, but I was too optimistic to believe him.

Is it melodramatic to suggest that School Rumble is the biggest waste of potential in anime/manga this decade? I mean, Kobayashi writes these amazing characters, that are so sympathetic and multi-dimensional and complicated and, well, just brilliant. Yet he seemingly can't write a well-paced and well developed plotline to save his life. It's so disappointing because even in this episode you could see glimpses of the masterpiece it could have been shining through the occasional cracks of otherwise mediocrity. I can't help but just shake my head and utter "if only..."

You ripped the words right out of my mouth and on to your keyboard thx, your post is exactly what I’ve been wanting to say for some time now.

I agree School Rumble was special it had this immense amount of potential all down the gutter because of a cowardly author.

As I think back to the episodes(and manga) and recall the exciting development between great characters, all of it is MEANINGLESS, null and void, garbage in my mind when you have this weak conclusion where the author is telling fans “think up your own ending.”

Is it really that difficult to become great? This series was a step or two away from knocking on that door of greatness, but it fell flat on its face right at the end! What a shame.

Jin Kizuite
2008-09-29, 17:45
Yeah they edited out some parts in the manga to try and salvage an ending but it still sucked in short.

Kanzaki Urumi
2008-09-30, 14:30
I am feeling rather molested now again.

Darkje
2008-10-01, 20:42
Timewarp...lame lame lame.

Loved S1 and S2, couldn't get enough...

But this, the ending is like nothing happened and we're back to the end of S2.

I'm so sad, the whole climax of the show was wasted!

kenjiharima
2008-10-03, 08:46
Hey what about the first OVA. That was also one of the factors why SR was loved so much before this ending.

Wonder when will NNA be animated?

Anime Daisuki
2008-10-09, 18:14
I wish they would've at least showed Harima's new song =/

I think KJ intended for True Oudou to occur but due to such a large fanbase being in the other factions, he's trying to eliminate all traces of any development left.

lonewolf777
2008-10-14, 10:47
Also btw all the episodes of Sangakki was aired in the DVD, In summary that is...narrated by mostly Hanai and Akira with the rest of the SR cast. This is the ONLY thing that clears things up for non manga readers.

Do you know where I could get that DVD with English dubbing? Thanks.

kenjiharima
2008-10-14, 15:58
Do you know where I could get that DVD with English dubbing? Thanks.

There's no english dubbed yet of SR-sanggaki. Only the Japanese dvd bundled with the limited edition of the final manga is where you can get it for now.

Even now getting back to this thread is still heartbreaking, since that is not the way to end an anime and manga.

lonewolf777
2008-10-15, 08:44
There's no english dubbed yet of SR-sanggaki. Only the Japanese dvd bundled with the limited edition of the final manga is where you can get it for now.

Ack, that's what I meant, except, is that out with the SUBS, I should have said. Ie is there anywhere to get that DVD with English subtitles?

In all honesty, I've never even watched it with English dubbing, but I know it's out.
O.o go figure?

lonewolf777
2008-10-15, 08:53
I think KJ intended for True Oudou to occur but due to such a large fanbase being in the other factions, he's trying to eliminate all traces of any development left.

True Oudou did occur, right?

Ack, bring on the Harima Harem/Monkey!! Or Kids Meal...... better than the everyone all alone except Tenma ending -_____-;

Anime Daisuki
2008-10-15, 16:11
True Oudou did occur, right?

Ack, bring on the Harima Harem/Monkey!! Or Kids Meal...... better than the everyone all alone except Tenma ending -_____-;


Correct me if I'm mistaken but True Oudou = Harima x Tenma.

lonewolf777
2008-10-15, 19:42
Correct me if I'm mistaken but True Oudou = Harima x Tenma.

Oh. Maybe it's my mistake. I thought Oudou was Harima x Tenma and True Oudou was Tenma x Karasuma... o.o all these factions, it's easy to get lost/confused among them.

CaptainSmoker
2008-10-18, 09:43
To bad none of the factions came true, instead we were given the WTF faction, where every1 ends up with a pie in the face instead of a life partner...

A great ending to a romance anime id say (sarcasm) :heh:

Anime Daisuki
2008-10-18, 13:57
We got Oudou didn't we?

lonewolf777
2008-10-20, 08:46
One of the two. XD

CaptainSmoker
2008-10-22, 10:34
We got Oudou didn't we?

i dont know, the last issue confused most when Tenma started to cry after seeing Harima show up at the church, fans begin to speculate she fell for Harima now, so i would say its unclear. :twitch:

Anime Daisuki
2008-10-25, 12:33
I'd say she's just happy that he came to the reunion since he was the one that got her to the airport and all.

Solafighter
2008-10-25, 14:32
I'd say she's just happy that he came to the reunion since he was the one that got her to the airport and all.

Yup. I think so too. :)

He did a good scene by appearing there. :cool:

Eggs in a Bottle
2008-10-27, 16:00
Well I dunno, clearly:

Tenma had only "feelings" for Karasuma, she never showed anything more than friendshippish feelings towards Harima, since Harima has acted like a big brother to her throughout the series. Soo what I understand that this was an actual ending to the mystery of Tenma and Karasuma ever getting together. Harima, still remains a mystery, and from what I understood this wasn't a total new beginning, just a remeeting, or something like that. He still has strong feelings for Tenma though.

I know it wasn't the writer's aim, but have you guys noticed how much Harima has been through all because of his love for Tenma?

Plus I thought this ending was actually good compared to other animes/mangas, like Cowboy Bebop just had me pissed, yeah it is an ending, but not a good one :(

lonewolf777
2008-10-28, 12:58
I think it would have been much cooler if Harima stopped caring about Tenma and got over her, then she realized that he had been in love with her and regretted not reciprocating, cuz he was the one who really loved her all along.... kinda Cyrano de Bergerac style.

danielwbbr
2008-10-28, 21:36
i've been unable to get hold of the last two ova's and i'm desperate to know what happens at the end i.m so confused could someone please tell me what actually happens to every body please i'm desperate to know would really appreciate it.

CaptainSmoker
2008-10-29, 09:00
i've been unable to get hold of the last two ova's and i'm desperate to know what happens at the end i.m so confused could someone please tell me what actually happens to every body please i'm desperate to know would really appreciate it.

It makes me queezy just to reminisce over the most horrible ending ive ever come across. What makes it worse is the ending happens to belong to one of my fave shows ever! But since your desperate here are the spoilers-

Harima delivers Tenma to the airport where she leaves in pursuit of karusuma who has a life threatning disease and is seeking medical attention in America(sounds like a soap opera to me). finally Tenma knows of Harimas feelings it only took 270+ chapters of manga for a confession!

Harima tells Eri shes a B*, she beats him up, later both develop a mutual respect for each other (pretty romantic conclusion eh :twitch: )

in the end harima and most of your fave charachters end up alone and die alone. Hey i liked watching the OVA's cuz im a SR fan, but to call this a proper ending is bs.

The ovas should be easy to find online...

Eggs in a Bottle
2008-10-29, 10:58
It makes me queezy just to reminisce over the most horrible ending ive ever come across. What makes it worse is the ending happens to belong to one of my fave shows ever! But since your desperate here are the spoilers-

Harima delivers Tenma to the airport where she leaves in pursuit of karusuma who has a life threatning disease and is seeking medical attention in America(sounds like a soap opera to me). finally Tenma knows of Harimas feelings it only took 270+ chapters of manga for a confession!

Harima tells Eri shes a B*, she beats him up, later both develop a mutual respect for each other (pretty romantic conclusion eh :twitch: )

in the end harima and most of your fave charachters end up alone and die alone. Hey i liked watching the OVA's cuz im a SR fan, but to call this a proper ending is bs.

The ovas should be easy to find online...In the OVAs Harima doesn't confess at the airport, but mumbles something weird on the airport bench that is not a confession and Tenma remembers that he was indeed the pervert right after that and then they start shouting, but it ends when Tenma has to go. After that Tenma gets on and they show Harima saying his thoughts, and after that FINALLY they show Tenma on the airplane saying that he heard what Harima was shouting on the motorbike (which was that "he was doing all this because he loves Tenma from the bottom of his heart"), and after saying that, she says that "No. The truth is that maybe even long before that...". The subs could be iffy because they are subs, but maybe it was intended in the audio too to present that maybe Tenma has always kinda seen through Harima, but still treated him as a close friend (except when she thought he was a bad guy).

Then the Eri scene.

And then the time skip, Karasuma gets some weird memory eating disease in the States and he loses his memory. Tenma is by his side. They get everybody except Harima together again to help Karasuma regain his memory. Almost everybody look the same and they have some pie war at the party. Harima has fallen back to his delinquent ways and after travels around the world he has gotten pretty "big" and rough in his manner. He arrives at the party even though he wasn't invited, and Karasuma remembers that he is Hanai. Harima then tries to confess to Tenma, again, since he still doesn't know that Tenma knows. While he's trying, Tenma gets all emotional and starts to cry. Other people start throwing pies at Harima, because he made Tenma cry. ---> Everybody have a happy pie war. Teh end.

Wait, the English nun-chick is also living with Yakumo for some reason, in the Tsukamoto house. Tenma is in the States. And Ichijou is a Dojiboron star. Mikoto has F-cup.

danielwbbr
2008-10-29, 14:08
well at least now i know so all those years of waiting for the conclusion and this is what we get, its actually sickening to think that this could happen, so in the end the 3 most interesting characters end up no where, just one more thing when you say Harima has return to his old ways is he still drawing his manga not that it makes much difference. Thanks everyone it's been eating at me for a long time now i'm going to go hang my self in the corner.............jokes but i feel that way anyway. One of the greatest anime turned into the greatest dissapointment of my life bar nun....

Eggs in a Bottle
2008-10-29, 15:13
You should really just google the OVAs ("school rumble third term ova 1 & 2" or with similar words) and either ehh download them from file sharing sites since certain forums have links to the files, or just watch them from video sharing sites.

The OVAs weren't that weird in School Rumble terms, but the last minutes were just horrible as an ending, for once School Rumble should have been serious about it.

Like I didn't really explain that when Karasuma "remembers" Harima as Hanai is actually the first memory he remembers from the old times and before this it has been completely blank to him, and it has a bigger meaning because of this since it proves that he can regain his memory with the help of the other people.

siber222000
2008-10-31, 20:39
wah i want full 24 episodes season!! too bad that won't happen :frustrated:

kenjiharima
2008-11-02, 16:44
wah i want full 24 episodes season!! too bad that won't happen :frustrated:

It's already in the bonus section of the dvd. To bad it's all summary. :eyespin:

danielwbbr
2008-11-03, 11:34
I might be completely wrong here but what is the chances that the last 2 ova's where just to give the guy sometime to finish what ever he is doing with school how crazy is it to think that there might be more coming.

Solafighter
2008-11-04, 04:27
The 24 episodes of the third season are in the first 30 seconds of the 25th episode .... :uhoh:

kenjiharima
2008-11-04, 21:58
1-24 eps. 15mins in the summaries in the DVD bonus menu

ep.26 is less than 30mins.

Solafighter
2008-11-05, 04:18
1-24 eps. 15mins in the summaries in the DVD bonus menu

ep.26 is less than 30mins.

15 minutes outside the first ova?

Something, i havent seen yet...? :confused:

kenjiharima
2008-11-06, 11:16
It's just narration of manga chapters with some b.chapters and scenes taken out. Though pretty surprised that the Yakumo scenes in the summaries had no cuts.

Solafighter
2008-11-06, 16:05
It's just narration of manga chapters with some b.chapters and scenes taken out. Though pretty surprised that the Yakumo scenes in the summaries had no cuts.

Worth to watch/listen? ;)

kenjiharima
2008-11-07, 10:24
Worth to watch/listen? ;)

It's like they're summarizing the manga for you with scenes seen in the RAWS. Worth listening to take off all the confusion in the new ova, also is someone gonna sub it?

Slayerx
2008-11-17, 02:55
Y'know, i actually find the handling of the anime ending rather interesting...

first off, it has the same horrible ending of the manga, an ending that is made out of pure epic fail... and at the same time it cuts out A LOT of the material that comes in before the end of the manga; the material of which is from the best last few chapters of the manga... What i find interesting is that i actually like the anime ending more despite the fact that it kept the worst part and cut out the best

Here's the genius behind the direction...
The parts that the cut out are some great chapters... these chapters sent off of the shippers, spark the fans and make our imaginations go wild with the potential of what's to come... The director may have understood this, and that's why he cut it out (though it was probably just time constraints and thus it's really just a fluke)

you see, the true reason that the ending of the manga was such a horrible let down to the point where we want to damn KJ's name was not because of how bad the ending itself was, but because it was drastically different from what he expected from what the previous chapters showed... We saw the potential for something great, something amazing; it was the PERFECT set up for sequel... the potential of what school rumble COULD have been just made our mouths water with anticipation... But then... KJ didn't deliver... and not only did he not deliever, he gave us like the polar opposite of our expections... our sky high hopes for the series resulted in a horrible crash and burn of disappointment... it's like they say about hype; the higher your hopes the more the fall is gonna hurt (or something like that)

So what the anime did in it's adaption of the manga ending is slice out EVERYTHING that would have given us hope for the series and erase all the juicy potential, and just leave us with the bland ending...

The anime ending was rather uninspired and just plain mediocre... but this is actually a huge upgrade from the manga ending which felt like it should have been burned in a fire so that no future readers could ever lay eyes on it ever again (worst. last. chapter. ever.)

kenjiharima
2008-11-18, 11:00
Also as noted before in the anime Harima didn't that vision that Tenma likes him. It degenerates his character development as opposed to the final episode where he hadn't that imagination that Tenma still likes him and he has hope, but he's there more as a friend and the anime portrays that Tenma now has feelings towards Harima though he's already with Karasuma.

Too bad it ended like the manga, the anime still can have a sequel since it's like Rorounin Kenshin the good ending in the manga where they live happily ever after, but in the anime an OVA continued Kenshin's story which we thought he'd live happily ever after, but died with his wife Kaoru with his sickness.

IMHO SCHOOL RUMBLE ANIME NEEDS REDEMPTION!!! >___<

lonewolf777
2008-12-19, 22:47
Although when you think about it..... the terrible ending was kind of inevitable. I mean, SR is based entirely on a bunch of unreciprocated loves.... and they're all ridiculously passionate, too, so the chance of a win-over by ANYBODY who has a crush on someone who has a crush on someone else was near impossible..... take Tenma, for example. Could she possibly have gotten over her love for Karasuma to love Kenji? Could Kenji have gotten over his love for Tenma (which was ALL he ever thought about) to fall for Eri or Yakumo in the end? I wish it did happen, and I'd like to say it could, but quite frankly, it would have been a little bit weird.
(not to say I approve of the ending... damn the ending. KJ was out of his damn mind coming up with something like that. He better redeem himself T__T )

aliensporebomb
2009-02-02, 17:53
I waited a long time to see the last two because I'd heard about what a non-ending
the ending really was and figured "what the heck".

Ugh. Several things really rubbed me the wrong way.

First of all, this was most definetely a "we can't afford a full season, we can't
even afford a half season, you get two episodes. That's it."

So it seemed that any extraneous silliness was wasting what precious time
we had on silliness that we wouldn't mind in the context of a longer production.

That being said, something that bothered me more than it should have:



Harima making snap judgements about Eri based on her appearance.

Ugh.

The very POSTER BOY for not making snap judgements based on appearance,
who has suffered more because people think the worst of him because of the
way he looks makes a snap judgement on her appearance and pays the price.

Whoa. What were you thinking you dope? She should have hit you a few
more times.

Eri strikes me as the type of girl who is so attractive guys are intimidated and
don't approach her at all - remember she says "one would be enough for me"
so she's never dated as she's never found the right guy. Harima definetely
put his foot in his mouth there.

No wonder she's turned off by guys (or rather immature high school boys),
the ones who talk with her put her down, the ones who might talk with her
are too frightened of how pretty she is to talk with her.

I'm way too serious about a cartoon show here.





Another....



The whole ending with Karasuma going to America for treatment - realistic.

The whole thing with Tenma following him there (very unrealistic IMHO) and
bringing him back (even more unrealistic) to have a party for him to stir his
memory was just too compressed and slapped together halfheartedly even
for me. I know, it's just a show and I should relax.

And for a supposed tough guy, Harima couldn't confess to anyone much less
Tenma without being scared to death. Dissappointing. Some tough guy he is..

He kinda sorta did it and she might even understand his feelings but he's really
a poor choice for any of them I guess. The whole pie fight segue was just a way
for them to end the episode and give us four minutes of credits. Ack.

If it's true that the Mangaka of this series ended it with a "you decide"
ending for fear of upsetting his fans, that's even worse.



And...controversial opinion:



You know, I'm seeing a lot of parellels in this story between the mangaka
of SR and Fujishima who authored "Ah My Goddess", similar unresolved
issues going on forever without ever getting a final definitive "this
is the way I finish my story and I stand behind my ending" kind of
confidence.

Face it, it's kind of a bizzarre harem anime where nobody gets anyone
because it's written to allow the viewer to insert themselves into the
scenario so YOU can "get" the person you want, IMHO. That's what it
seems like to me.

But so many unresolved threads and that first year was SO strong and
there are bits and pieces of it here and there.

IMHO? He should have finished the story before it became a huge
phenomenon. Once you let your fans of various factions influence your
storywriting the thing goes off the rails.



Sigh. I'll stop now.

Gambino009
2009-02-02, 21:02
Harima by that point was in Delinquent mode, he said some pretty nasty things to Eri.. but for Eri this was more of a test to release some of her bottled up affection and clear things up once and for all.

Eri who doesn't cry in front of anyone was pretty hurt.. putting it this way, if any other guy in SR would say the same nasty things to her she wouldn't care. Eri knew Harima was just being childish and she could have easily ignored him.

She wanted to help him, but Harima just nailed her sensitive spot.. she wanted to indirectly prove that her feelings for him were real (of course she didn't say him). Indirectly, meaning she wants to have some one love her for who she is (and of course to her.. a Delinquent has proven to be the most honest).

This fire she unleashed brought the bearded dragon back on his feet. And of course he apologized to her.. which made potential upset fans happy.

So yeah, no sweet talk would have convinced him to come to reason.

Oh yeah, one more thing that was pointed out. KJ didn't put himself too deeply in a hole with how he could have ended the series.

He could have end it traditionally with the couple that best Portrait his manga genre. Comedy/Romance

Or he could have end it with a couple with a simple Romance.

Well what ever.. anything would be better than what we got =p

I heard someone say.. he would have been more satisfied with a Giant Meteor destroying the planet, but that's a little extreme

anti-random
2009-02-10, 17:51
by reading this thread i find that i agree with the majority of the people who wrote on this thread. but i just want to ask if anybody else feels slightly insulted that the author didn't believe that we couldn't cope with an brilliant ending if if it wasn't the ending we would have preferred? i mean he could of made an ending with closure but instead just left a big load of c#@p ending because he thought if he made a definite ending people might riot because they didnt get want they wanted.

Darknemo2000
2009-02-11, 23:39
anti-random, actually it was defined in what people cared the most - Harima. Harima will be forever unlucky, have no successful life and will be a total joke. And since Harima is locked Eri and Yakumo happiness is locked as well as it is connected with Harima.

Tanma was given a clear ending too. Though again no one really cared about main heroine to make a big deal out of it.

yakumo-chan
2009-02-12, 21:24
yeah tenma did given a clear ending.... but its supposed to be Tenma's ending cause she is the main character but many people are still dissapointed because harima didnt end up with eri or yakumo

Shiryuu
2009-03-05, 17:48
Was there supposed to be something before the 3rd term ova? I don't remember anything about a walkathon in the 2nd season. Or did they just make it up on the spot and expected people to have read the manga?

Ryuou
2009-03-05, 18:04
Unfortunately everything up until those bits you saw in the OVA was skipped. They basically just animated the end of the manga.

frozenb
2009-03-17, 19:25
the sangakki or third season is the final episode of normal school rumble...

it's so difficult to make a story after that...
i've read the school rumble z n it's not connected from normal school rumble...

Ryuou
2009-03-17, 20:19
Hopefully, and I'm not sure how possible it is to get it, they can go back and animate all the parts they skipped. I'd like to get the real 1-24 eps of San Gakki.

Sephiroth_760
2009-03-21, 21:06
when I first saw san gakki 25 I was sooo fucking surprised^^

there were so many scenes I have never seen before, I was just like "what? what's that?! why did I pass the volume with the kiss!? and why are they in the middle of a tournament?!"

my explanation at the end: they just made a few scenes of the chapters which weren't shown in the series
I think I'm going to read the manga ... still want to see the scene with the kiss (harima and yakumo!) xD

I think the ending was quite well
I was sooo happy to see harima at the end at the class reunion :D
Harima is one of my most favourite harem-male-characters :D

but what surprised me too was karasumarus illness >.>

I don' think it will continue, because the manga is at his ends too
but it was a great anime after all :D

yakumo-chan
2009-03-21, 21:15
we're the same dude!
you should start reading at chapter 167.....
but dont worry there is still school rumble z!

Gambino009
2009-03-21, 22:32
I think I'm going to read the manga ... still want to see the scene with the kiss (harima and yakumo!) xD


Hopefully the manga will clear everything up for you, about the kiss and ant eater lips LMAO

Sephiroth_760
2009-03-22, 03:55
@ yakumo-chan
I already read school rumble z, since it has only 6 chapters published now xD
but thanks :D
I appreciate your information :D
but I think I'm going to see through every single page of the manga :D
maybe they left some chapters in between! xDDD I want to see it all :D

@gambino009
yeah I hope so too :D

Mei19
2009-04-04, 16:58
HAHAHA they ended it with Harima and Tenma looking at each other with sparkle in their eyes, that's the best ending the author could've given those two without making the story cliche. The writer projects himself to Kenji so for Harima and Tenma to get married will be the ultimate Mary Sue. IMO. The downside to this ending is, Karasuma is still alive and Tenma won't stop loving him. But the upside is atleast Tenma cares a lot about Harima. And he still has a chance. If he shaves that is. Go Harima!

Here's really the only thing that weirded me out the most in this OVA. I didn't even notice the change in voice actors.

How did this...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2844356749_894ab34624_o.jpg

turn into this??

http://screenshots.fansub.tv/1280/1/54.jpg

Harima aged 30 years! Even with the time skip, he should've just been around 20 years old. He looked like a middle-aged man. The second pic looks like the father of the first pic LMAO What the hell happened? Eri should've hunted him down with a razor.

This show made me laugh nonstop. He should've extended the manga to 500 chapters. I wouldn't mind reading the same " and in the end Harima gets screwed" scenario over and over. XD

Solafighter
2009-04-06, 12:08
Harima changes so often... So nothing realy special. ;)

Dont forget, that he even changes for some chapters/episodes into the worker and Eri-chan doesnt notice at all.

legendarymidget
2009-04-09, 19:07
i sot of fell sorry for kurosima (sorry cant spell it) but i think yaakomo (sorry cant spell it) and harima shouldve gotten together

yakumo-chan
2009-04-09, 19:30
i sot of fell sorry for kurosima (sorry cant spell it) but i think yaakomo (sorry cant spell it) and harima shouldve gotten together

whats the reason?
why you cant spell it? ^_^:cool:

Cinji_Hito
2009-04-13, 09:59
After Watching the episodes of the School Rumble San Gekki. I wouldn't suggest them to anyone else. The last episode's most memorable moment to me was when Harima came to the re-union looking all beefed up. (He has gotten quite tall) For this to be the only memorable scene, I felt an emptyness coming from the ending. (Wouldn't been nice for Harima to say that he still loved her at that re-union). No reason she can't have both guys. In the end, it was the writers decision to leave it open like that.


On that topic, if someone were to make thier own manga(<.<) of what could have happened during the 3rd Season. Would anyone be interested in seeing it. (Ofcourse It would be free since I can't ...ahem. That person can't profit from something licensed but still feels the need for that perfect ending everyone is waiting for.)

Some of those perfecting endings would include
1: Harima becoming a manga-ka instead of scouring the countryside.
2: A climatic story for Yakumo which they didn't even show the ghost again even though they said they would.(A lot of potential story there.)
3:Hanai actually gets an ending.
4:Eri actually gets an ending.
5:Yakumo actually gets an ending.
6:It won't end in a pie fight...(or will it?)
7:Some more fan service.(Admit it, this series loved showing it.)
So on and so forth.
If any are interesting in m....Someone continuing the series the way fans want it. Please vote in the poll at this topic.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=80507

I hope to see what you have to say on the subject.

motaku96
2009-04-14, 22:46
Since I bought the first two seasons from funimation recently, I felt the need to watch everything all over again. This is the second time I watch the series(the first through fan subs). Anyway, I brought myself to watch the dreaded 3rd season again. I think I appreciate some parts a little more watching it a second time but the end still sucks. Anyway, I wanted to make some observations and speculations about something minor at the end. Well, it's nothing big really. It's just about Imadori and Ichijou, my favorite couple besides Eri and Harima.
Well first, Lala said "You didn't change" and "The Gorilla's back" which implies that she hasn't seen Imadori in awhile(though these lines are different in the manga). Possibly not since the end of highschool. But enough about her, what I'm interested in is the fact that Ichijou called Imadori by his first name, "Kyousuke." Now we all know Ichijou's personality. She wouldn't normally be so open. So the only explanation is that they've gotten much closer over the years. Hopefully they're going out. Yeah, I know, I'm probably just wishing for something that's not there. It's better than the rest anyway. Shigeo Umezu and Madoka Kido aren't even seen in the end. They're the only actual couple in the series(besides one other). Though in the manga ending, Shigeo is there and explains that Madoka had to work so she couldn't make it(they're still going out, good for them). Toki Nagayama is getting married to Kazuya Tanaka(as seen by the ring she's showing off). They're the couple that started going out after the war game. Well, just showing that some people got good ends even though everyone else was pretty much cheated.

Oh and why the heck is the last episode called 26 when there were only 2 episodes in the ova. I don't know why this hasn't bothered me before.

Sephiroth_760
2009-04-15, 09:29
Oh and why the heck is the last episode called 26 when there were only 2 episodes in the ova. I don't know why this hasn't bothered me before.

first thing, school rumble is the visualization of the manga
they left out many things which happened in the manga between nigakki 26 and san gakki 25
why? I don't know
I really would like to see the left out chapters as an anime -.-'

zebra
2009-04-15, 10:11
2: A climatic story for Yakumo which they didn't even show the ghost again even though they said they would.(A lot of potential story there.)
Well, the ghost girl DID come back - in the manga. Yakumo got a closing chapter on that matter. But it's one of the many things that were skipped and thus not animated ^^

Me wants skipped chapters animated! :upset:
Even so that won't change the end. I did enjoy all the things before the end though :(

kenjiharima
2009-04-23, 07:51
How did this...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2844356749_894ab34624_o.jpg

turn into this??

http://screenshots.fansub.tv/1280/1/54.jpg

Harima aged 30 years! Even with the time skip, he should've just been around 20 years old. He looked like a middle-aged man. The second pic looks like the father of the first pic LMAO What the hell happened? Eri should've hunted him down with a razor. [/FONT][/B]

This show made me laugh nonstop. He should've extended the manga to 500 chapters. I wouldn't mind reading the same " and in the end Harima gets screwed" scenario over and over. XD


Edit/Shave the beard out he'll look younger. Beards and mustache make a person look older.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/harima_beard_edit.jpg

Sasano
2009-05-30, 17:00
When I started watching it I had heard it was bad...but I never thought it was THIS bad...

To be honest, I've never seen such a great cast of characters, even some of the support characters were quite intriguing.Every character had there weight in the story be it Comedy or Drama wise.

This is what I'm disliking the most of Anime, this half-assed endings pretty much destroy everything else in the series.To be honest I don't see how "wanting to please the fans" falls as an excuse to create such an ending.Sure I might not get the pairing I want, hell maybe 90% of the fanbase won't get the ending they want.I still I think as fans we can appreciate the closure the creator made for the characters.

But this types of endings are just an insult imo, to the show itself.


A lot of people saying that well there was closure with Tenma x Karasuma but that's difficult to grasp when the characters "love" resolve comes from a simple High School crush with vauge and rare moments to bring them closer.Thats the main reason I don't like this pairing at all, it has no real emotional circumstances unlike the rest.For example : Tenma's "love" converted Harima from another worthless thug to a much kinder wiser person, in itself Tenma vindicates his whole existence and even gives me him a future.Meanwhile Tenma likes for Karasuma has always been vauge to me this just indicates a teenage crush.

Also insinuating that Harima can't get over Tenma is a bit unrealistic as well.Overall I would've said that if Tenma was gonna end up with the Kappa they should have done it sooner and then gave some chapters for Harima to "heal" and then move him up(yes up) to another relationship near the end.I know Tenma is the heroine but Karasuma is not.

CaptainSmoker
2009-05-31, 03:13
I agree fans wanted to see a new Harima emerge one that got over that stupid obsession with Tenma, a new Harima that learns to move on and "heal" then sets a new course preferably either yakumo or eri

If this did happen with careful planing on KJs part i think it would have set SR apart from most romance mangas by a huge degree, but ofcourse that boat sunk long ago

kenjiharima
2009-06-01, 00:24
I just hope there are survivors on that boat since the only characters that are the talk of SR are Harima, Eri and Yakumo.

and yes the only thing that can progress this series is that Harima gets over with Tenma I agree with that, while making Harima a new the new main character.

Also imho they need to make, not a re-make, but sorta like what happened to City Hunter and other manga's where the main character just the secondary character and there is a new main character or one of the secondary characters namely Harima becomes the main character with the continuity of the SR storyline.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-01, 02:05
as far as I can see now...

the only ones that can be the next main character is...

Harima
Yakumo
Akira

Harima - He can be the next main character by forgetting Tenma and finding new love...

Yakumo - She can be the next main character because of her interesting story in school Rumble, some of the interesting stories about her are the Mind Reading Ability, Story about her Father and her Sister,Story about The Ghost, Story about what happened in SRZ chapter 4

Akira - She can be the next main character for she has a mysterious story inside her... as far as I know she is a secret agent working in a secret company.... she might be the action character KJ might be thinking of....

Solafighter
2009-06-01, 06:08
the only ones that can be the next main character is...

Harima
Yakumo
Akira


Why no Eri?


Akira as lead... Well i think she´s one of those, who noticed everything, compared to the rest blind people, who didnt notice, that Harima almost distroyed his desk in season one, when they plant to go to the beach and he wasnt invited. Akira:"Interesting." :heh:
--> To boring. :D

Yakumo.. Mmmh~ she has the mind reading thing.


Harima. HELL YES. :cool:

yakumo-chan
2009-06-01, 06:29
Why no Eri?




Umm...

its because there's nothing much more story in her...

her goal in SR was only harima nothing more.....

well.. there is a story about Max and Eri's childhood....

but that's the only story I can see in Eri nothing more...

and she already has achieve her goal... SRZ chapter 10.... Harima and Eri and Baby.....

Sephiroth_760
2009-06-01, 06:37
Umm...

its because there's nothing much more story in her...

her goal in SR was only harima nothing more.....

well.. there is a story about Max and Eri's childhood....

but that's the only story I can see in Eri nothing more...

and she already has achieve her goal... SRZ chapter 10.... Harima and Eri and Baby.....

nah, u don't see Eri's potential
she has a difficult story too
she's ojou in the outside but she's broken in the inside
everybody thinks of her like a princess but all she wants is to be seen as a normal girl

I can imagine a pretty good story about Eri
about her family, her father who never loved her and her mother who's always abroad, or the thing with England and Max

about her never finding a man who loves her because he loves her, not because she's pretty
about her desperate and instabile psych ...

Eri has pretty much potential to be a main character

Solafighter
2009-06-01, 06:52
and she already has achieve her goal... SRZ chapter 10.... Harima and Eri and Baby.....


Sorry Yamo, if you see it this way, then Harima is out of race, as well. He´s the father after all. ;)

But well, chapter 10 never excisted, right? :eyespin: :eyespin: :eyespin:

yakumo-chan
2009-06-01, 06:57
nah, u don't see Eri's potential
she has a difficult story too
she's ojou in the outside but she's broken in the inside
everybody thinks of her like a princess but all she wants is to be seen as a normal girl


Yes...
I can see that she is a weak girl pretending to be strong... we have seen that in Nigakki... also in chapter 280... she cries.....
but that story is already finished......
this is the page that finishes it...
http://image.onemanga.com/001/mangas/00000032/000060062/02.jpg


in this page harima has figured out that Eri was really weak... pretending to be strong.....




about her never finding a man who loves her because he loves her, not because she's pretty
about her desperate and instabile psych ...


She has already found her man "harima kenji" as we can see in SRZ chapter 10....(the baby)

actually.... Eri's Story is almost Finished...

also... Eri's purpose was only harima nothing more...

The only story remaining for her are her childhood memories with max....

but that's all i can see now nothing more.....

Also..

It seems to me that Eri has already been appearing in SR a million times more than Tenma....

As if the real main character was Eri not Tenma....

But her story is finished as we can see in SRZ chapter 10 - the baby

Its time for a new Main character....
as I've said before....

Harima
Yakumo
Akira

Solafighter
2009-06-01, 06:59
Who cares, if Eri only prentents to be strong.
She is not weak and that she cried is a good proof, that she has feelings, right? :)

yakumo-chan
2009-06-01, 07:13
Who cares, if Eri only prentents to be strong.
She is not weak and that she cried is a good proof, that she has feelings, right? :)

heheh...:D

ummm...

i didnt mean she is really weak at all.....:D

what i mean is that she really Has a "soft heart" that is only pretending to be a "cold heart"

hehe... that's what I mean really ^_^


As I've said before... her story in SR is almost finished.....

1.Harima have already figured out that she was really a soft girl....
2.Eri has already founded his man "Harima Kenji" - the baby

the only story that i dont know for her are her childhood memories of Max....
that's all nothing more.....

Sorry Yamo, if you see it this way, then Harima is out of race, as well. He´s the father after all.



No. He can still be in the race because his story in forgetting Tenma was not revealed yet....

the only thing is,

is that we already know the outcome if harima became the main character.... Eri and harima ended up...

so....

I dont know if he can be the next character as we can see in SRZ chapter 10...


the only in the race now is....

Yakumo and Akira

Gambino009
2009-06-01, 07:16
Her only purpose is for Harima? That's kinda dull, Eri has always been a good supporting character for her friends.. especially Tenma.

If anything her story was the most interesting of all, she's one of few characters who's parents we actually know exist.. but we never really get to see their faces.

I wonder how many people would watch a school Rumble with out Eri.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-01, 07:26
Her only purpose is for Harima? That's kinda dull, Eri has always been a good supporting character for her friends.. especially Tenma.

If anything her story was the most interesting of all, she's one of few characters who's parents we actually know exist.. but we never really get to see their faces.

I wonder how many people would watch a school Rumble with out Eri.

yes....

but how many people would watch school rumble without harima??

ehem....

Eri and harima are one of the reasons why they still watch SR......
but for me... I watch SR for yakumo also...
Eri without Harima
or
Harima without Eri
is not fun to watch anymore....

as I've said before..
Eri's story is almost finished......

as we can see in SRZ chapter 10.....

Eri and harima already have a baby......

there is nothing much more interesting story for Eri.....
We are only interested on how she will get harima....
Eri's purpose is only harima that's all.....

as I have said before...
the next main character might be....

Yakumo and Akira.....

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-01, 08:36
Her only purpose is for Harima? That's kinda dull, Eri has always been a good supporting character for her friends.. especially Tenma.


i have to agree

I think Eri was the MOST developed charachter in the story, Harima was always confused through out, both Harima and Eri complimented each other niether would be as great without the other (the love hate relationship was awesome)

Eri has alot of things to sort out if there is a new manga
1- The financial situation of her father where Harima decided to work for her 281
2- Shawn, Max, Etc
3- Hooking up with Harima
4- Rivalry with Yakumo...?

Gambino009
2009-06-01, 08:50
I think Yakumo-chan is already adding ErixHarima plus baby on the prefix of any upcoming School Rumble story.

Why rush to that point? There's tons of things that could happen in between.. though I must say it would suck for many to already know that Eri ends up with Harima anyways, not that I'm complaining.. but to those who wanted another girl for Harima.

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-01, 16:18
I dont think Yakumo could carry a manga especially now that we know her ghost was her imagination... unless if Yori turns out to be some magical creature... :eek:

I think if School rumble continues it should center around the side charachters like Eri, hanai and others, maybe Eri could be a main charachter... :bow:

ER anyone? (Eri Rumbles)

kenjiharima
2009-06-03, 01:54
Iori is a male cat which transformed into a human. He can also switch personalities if wanted.

Solafighter
2009-06-03, 02:03
+ He gets his own money for X-Box promotion. :D

Check the scar on its his forehead. ;)

kenjiharima
2009-06-03, 02:05
+ He gets his own money for X-Box promotion. :D

He did? :twitch: :heh:

Agh...I wish there's a SRGT soon or a new SR spin off which has a new storyline. The ending of SR was bad, the SRZ ending was decent, but leaves to many questions.

Solafighter
2009-06-03, 02:06
Agh...I wish there's a SRGT soon or a new SR spin off which has a new storyline. The ending of SR was bad, the SRZ ending was decent, but leaves to many questions.

You can say that out, loud. Very loud.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-03, 03:29
i have to agree

I think Eri was the MOST developed charachter in the story,

uhhh.. how come?

ummm....

guys...

im not saying this because I'm a yakumo fan but.....
For me...

Yakumo really has the most Interesting story in school rumble.....

umm about Eri...
As far as I can see... her story in school rumble is almost complete....
so there is no need for her to become the next main character....

im not saying this because im a yakumo fan.....
im saying this because it is true...

Eri Fans....
I know you guys just want Eri to be the best at anything right?

dont worry...
Eri still defeats yakumo anyways...
just look....

1.Beautiful Girl - Eri Wins
2.Love for Harima - Eri Wins
3.Character Story - Yakumo Wins

So the score is 2-1
heheh so dont worry about that ^_^




1- The financial situation of her father where Harima decided to work for her 281


The problem is already finished... Harima became her fiancee....
we also know that Eri's father is still alive and is working to a different country just for Eri.... Unlike Yakumo's Father.., School rumble "NEVER" stated if he is dead or not......:confused:


2- Shawn, Max, Etc


It seems that Shawn only want Eri because max is inlove with her....

And as far as I can see.... Max has already given up Eri....
So this story is almost finished... nothing to talk about....


3- Hooking up with Harima


She already hooked up harima.... As we can see in SRZ chapter 10 ^_^:D


4- Rivalry with Yakumo...?

The Rivalry with yakumo is also finished.... As we can see in chapter 281... Yakumo has already given up harima....

So....
As far as I can see for Eri....
Her Story in School rumble is Almost finished....
No need for her to become the next Main character... ^_^

So what Im saying to my last posts.....

Yakumo an Akira has the highest probability of becoming the next main character.......

Here are some question that makes yakumo's story Interesting......

1. What's the purpose of Yakumo's mind reading in the story????
also please look at this.....
http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv88/krizzaneil/_Townsocks_School_Rumble_b62_4.jpg?t=1244015657

Focus on this one...
http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv88/krizzaneil/weeeee.jpg?t=1244015697

"Nees san and the rest of the family let me go...... but will they?"

WTF!
does this mean yakumo's parents also know about her SECRET??? This is interesting......

Theory: She might lose this power


2.Yakumo hates christmas..., WHY??? - (SRZ chapter 4)
Theory : It could be that his father died in that day or her father broke his promise to yakumo....

3.Where are their parents?
- As I've said before... School Rumble "NEVER" stated if her parents is already dead or not...... unlike eri's parents we have seen them fully alive....

4.The Ghost
- As i remember.... this ghost was part of Yakumo's heart.... and it seems yakumo hasnt find his man yet......

5.Iori the cat
- I think this cat is a magical cat... as we have seen in the b chapter.... this cat has turned into a human.... also.... this cat also have the ability to change souls by bumping each other's head..... This has something to do with yakumo... it could be that this cat is the man yakumo has been waiting for... i hope not...:heh:

6. Secret love for harima?
- Will this go on? I hope so..... ^_^

Next is....

AKIRA!

yes.. akira also has the probability of becoming the next main character....

as I have said before this character is kinda mysterious......
I mean... she know how to use Guns??
she also works in a secret organization..?
saving innocent people?

Also...

I think Akira has been trained to become like.... Solid snake from Metal gear! :heh:

yes... i think akira has been trained to do a stealth mission or something....

It could be the reason why Akira knows all about her classmates secrets...
its because she has been trained by a class S man known as Solid Snake ^_^:heh:

If akira would become the next main character.....
School rumble might be an action anime/manga

Darknemo2000
2009-06-06, 03:59
Eri's story is finished?

Only Yakumo fan can say that. You are saying that BECAUSE you are Yakumo fan, don't pretend it to be other way, mate.

1. Just because it is not stated you cannot claim it as fact. What I mean you are saying you are aware of her farther being alive, but nothing is cleared - he could be dead or alive as well, since a lot of time passed since the last time you saw them and the situation seemed to get complex, in other words - you do not know a thing, and it DOES need to be explained. You are just making assumptions.

I could also make assumption, that Yakumo's story is finished since we know everything about her. Even the things that have not been explained - I can just make assumptions about them not being told and make up my own facts thus completing Yakumo's story.

Like this one - "What's the purpose of Yakumo's mind reading in the story?"

The answer is brain damage. She fell, hit her head, end of the story.

What? I just made my own assumptions because it was never told otherwise...

Same is with Eri's farther and her family situation - you know nothing yet try to convince that you know just by making assumptions based on what has not been told.

2. It is never told how they gave up on her so easily. You would be an idiot to believe that everything would go so smoothly, specially when Shawn is not portrayed as a very likable character, who can be persistent as well.

You talk about Max but conveniently avoid Shawn who is the main issue of the second point. Why? Because you do know nothing about the situation, but you just want to look wise and try to avoid facts that make your argument look vain.

Max has given up on her, but what about Shawn? What do you know about situation there? Nothing, and thus another your point holds no validity as the story has to be explained again, meaning more Eri story.

You just keep on saying "So this story is almost finished... nothing to talk about...." not providing valid arguments for it.

3. Hooking up with Harima is meant from both sides. They are not hooked up. Fiance does not mean a thing if Harima is not even seeing Eri in that light. We do not know how her family would react and if the previous attempts would be gone as well. What about Shawn? Nothing is clear.

You can say that Yakumo is hooked up with Harima, or Harima with Tenma based on this logic, since one-sided love is enough to make a couple for you.

You see nothing in chapter 10. Just them talking and walking together, but the baby thing can be and can be not a fact... Needs to be explained... More of Er's story... And thus, you fail again.

4. Is it really so? I have not seen much of that in ch 281. Its too unclear to tell for sure. Thus needs to be escalated further... And thus more of the story needed.


So far all of your arguments failed.

oh and your formula does not mean a thing as its just a matter of taste.

just look....

1.Beautiful Girl - Eri Wins
2.Love for Harima - Eri Wins
3.Character Story - Eri wins

But the truth is that those points are way too subjective to escalate them to suit for someone else other than yourself.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-06, 04:53
1.Beautiful Girl - Eri Wins
2.Love for Harima - Eri Wins
3.Character Story - Eri wins



:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Darknemo2000
2009-06-06, 05:04
I'd rather you would respond to the previous points I made, rather than just making sad faces on the formula that is just an expression of one's personal preference.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-06, 05:10
I'd rather you would respond to the previous points I made, rather than just making sad faces on the formula that is just an expression of one's personal preference.

no need....
dont ask why...:heh:

kenjiharima
2009-06-06, 09:35
Just remember it ended badly in the canon manga and everyone are friends in the end.

Gambino009
2009-06-06, 09:50
Yeah, all the theories and stuff about any continuation of any form are totally out of the question because of how it ended.

As far as we know.. if he decided to continue anything.. he'd start with some fresh material if he wanted and not cover anything from the past.

Darknemo2000
2009-06-06, 10:13
It is not a thoery of continuation, but just discussing if the story is complete or not (as in - if there is space to expand story or not).

Yakumo-chan claims that Eri as a chjaracter's storyline is over and that there is nothing to reveal about her or her relationship with Harima. I disagreed and criticized her position by giving contra-arguments. It is not a theory of continuation. Its just saying that the manga (and anime) left a lot of things not explained and not finished and that also includes Eri.

Gambino009
2009-06-06, 10:27
I agree completely.

Seeing what we got from both endings.. the only story that's at it's peak is Tenma and Karasuma.. with the only thing left is whether or not Karasuma regains his memory and whether or not he returns the love.

Eri and Harima's story is far from over.. of course there's this little hints here and there but it's terribly done and can't be use to come to any conclusions.

Yakumo, I have absolutely no idea what her story is about... umm family? Being a good sister? Being with the person she loves? It's hard to say what her character really desires

Everyone else.. can end simply in what ever manner

Solafighter
2009-06-06, 10:43
I´d go for Akira. :D :cool:

kenjiharima
2009-06-06, 11:07
Yakumo's open ended ending. Possible the old chapter where Sara and Yakumo where in college is a possible future for her and since Harima made her a manga assistant she might end up as a manga assistant like in SRZ chap.6.

Hmm...just wondering why KJ is always pursuing the "manga assistant" on Yakumo, while in NNA he still has a similar girl to Yakumo assisting him.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-06, 11:26
Yakumo, I have absolutely no idea what her story is about... umm family? Being a good sister? Being with the person she loves?



here's more:

Mind Reading

Ghost Yakumo

Magical Cat Iori

Hates Christmas - srz chapter 4

Happy with her father

Harima kenji

Harima shouji

saying hanai she doesnt love him...

i know you guys dont like yakumo....
but.... umm.. guys.. could you reply friendly to me please?:D



I´d go for Akira. :D :cool:

hell yeah!:D

it will be an action manga/anime if that happens....:D

zebra
2009-06-06, 16:27
I´d go for Akira. :D :cool:

That would be the ultimate awesomeness XD Akira rocks!
Might also be a penguin party.

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-07, 17:39
here's more:

Mind Reading

Ghost Yakumo

Magical Cat Iori

Hates Christmas - srz chapter 4

Happy with her father

Harima kenji

Harima shouji

saying hanai she doesnt love him...



Yakumo-chan I think most Yakumo fans would not even read a manga starring her UNLESS if Harima is in each chapter…so mind reading, ghosts and daddies don’t really make people tingle… BUT if it were to be a small series with in a Eri Rumbles saga, it would be a great read…

The only things I want out of Yakumo is
1- A conclusion! maybe a man? Harima little brother… maybe?(lol)

2- Hanai telling her he found someone else (not that Yakumo would care)

3- And Of course Yakumo and Eri moments with Harima mixed in,




1.Beautiful Girl - Eri Wins
2.Love for Harima - Eri Wins
3.Character Story - Eri wins



lol, i think i have to disagree with #1- I really believe Yakumo and Eri are both equally beautiful, both have cat eyes, both have a UNIQUE personality and both are 11/10 girls, as for 2- and 3- Eri takes the cake

I just cant see a Yakumo manga, first of all from a marketing point of view, who would read it? Besides a few original SR fans, not many people want to see the adventures of Yakumo In the kitchen… lol

Instead if a Eri Rumbles series were to come out, Yakumo could have a portion dedicated to her, maybe a REAL confession with Harima would be nice, maybe this time Harima find out her of her feelings and put her to rest by saying “Thx for the help with manga, and maybe one day you will find yourself a mind reading dude to…”. Seriously though, we got like 300 SR mangas and NO CONFESSIONS, at least none straight forward, no development either post confessions. (I need a Eri confession TO !!! A REAL ONE GEEZ)

Eri also has the hilarious butler, on top of that I can imagine a Eri in America series with Harima, where maybe they meet shawn or something. Point is Yakumo is limited in terms of story line… none the less a great character.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-07, 20:29
Yakumo-chan I think most Yakumo fans would not even read a manga starring her UNLESS if Harima is in each chapter…so mind reading, ghosts and daddies don’t really make people tingle… BUT if it were to be a small series with in a Eri Rumbles saga, it would be a great read…

The only things I want out of Yakumo is
1- A conclusion! maybe a man? Harima little brother… maybe?(lol)

2- Hanai telling her he found someone else (not that Yakumo would care)

3- And Of course Yakumo and Eri moments with Harima mixed in,



l

thanks... i think you're much more friendlier than darknemo... ^_^;)

i just think that...

Reading mind
Ghost
The magical Cat

if you mix this three altogether..
this 3 can make one hell of a story you see....
i can already imagine it....

somehow i can imagine that her reading mind powers will be gone..... or there is this guy that is just immune from reading its mind.....

its because....
reading the mind of someone you love feels wrong to me....
she needs to lose this power....

what will happen to yakumo after she get her first boyfriend or get married?
she will be reading his mind?
thats wrong......
reading the minds of someone you love is wrong....
she shouldnt be reading their minds.....
its unfair....

even if it protects her to all perverts....
its still wrong.....
not all guys who are inlove with her are perverts... remember that...:(

she really needs to lose this power....
she cant experience happiness living with it.....

i can also imagine that the cat and the ghost would be involve in this reading mind story....

also as you can see...

if you watch again the OVA episode 1..... when she save Iori from the bad dog... and then she asks help for the guys behind her......
you can already imagine there what would happen if all the people knew about her power....

it will hurt her..... yes... it will hurt her heart so much....

just think....

even Harima freaked out when he knew about yakumo's reading power!
he said that "NO! dont read my mind please!"


ofcourse...
if that happens..... people or guys wont be nearing to her now.....
most of the guys will hate her or will not like her for it, thats for sure.....
you will be hearing whispers like....

"I heard this girl can read minds, is that true?"
"yes, very freaky eh?"
"hey, she's looking here."
"huh? yeah, i bet she's reading our minds again!"
"yeah, let's get out of here... i dont want that witch to read my mind!"

you see....
it hurts to see that you are different to other people...
yakumo is different.... she is abnormal......

try reading that last chapter of the B-chapter... you will understand....
i think it was b-chapter 63

if she will be a new main character.....
im sure it will be about her reading mind.......

Thanks again for the discussion captain smoker... I apreciate you're reply ^_^:D;)

Darknemo2000
2009-06-07, 21:17
What he is saying that Yakumo's stand-alone story may not be interesting for the fans, except few hardcore Yakumo fanatics. Yakumo by herself would not be able to produce longer lasting excitement. It would be B chapters one after another and poeple would be bored.

Harima is needed...

Though again ErixHarima is still much more exciting than YakumoxHarima anyways.

The problem here with Yakumo lies that she is not excitement generating character. She can make few short b chapters interesting enough, and it works - but for longer period she needs someone who has much more active nature... And thats Harima...

Harima is an excitement generator in Yakumo story most of the time...

With Eri it is different... Harima and Eri are both excitement generators and neither aura outshines the other - they just start sending sparkles all around when they are buzzing next to each other. maybe thats why it is more exciting to watch Eri/Harima than Yakumo/Harima... Which is reflected in the polls, where as a singular character Yakumo is slightly more popular than Eri, but in terms of pairing votes Flag fraction usually win by a good margin.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-07, 21:43
What he is saying that Yakumo's stand-alone story may not be interesting for the fans, except few hardcore Yakumo fanatics. Yakumo by herself would not be able to produce longer lasting excitement. It would be B chapters one after another and poeple would be bored.

Harima is needed...

Though again ErixHarima is still much more exciting than YakumoxHarima anyways.

The problem here with Yakumo lies that she is not excitement generating character. She can make few short b chapters interesting enough, and it works - but for longer period she needs someone who has much more active nature... And thats Harima...

Harima is an excitement generator in Yakumo story most of the time...

With Eri it is different... Harima and Eri are both excitement generators and neither aura outshines the other - they just start sending sparkles all around when they are buzzing next to each other. maybe thats why it is more exciting to watch Eri/Harima than Yakumo/Harima... Which is reflected in the polls, where as a singular character Yakumo is slightly more popular than Eri, but in terms of pairing votes Flag fraction usually win by a good margin.

that is true....

but i can also see that harima and eri are participating in the yakumo story....
harima, Eri and yakumo are all in the same world......

Gambino009
2009-06-07, 23:12
Usually I skip certain chapters.. because of that Theory Captain mentioned and Darknemo explained in better words.

You see.. once you get hooked with that spark.. whether it came from a silly Harima action..
Eri's reaction after a group of girls assume she likes Harima.. or just one of those Harima's there... and up, suddenly Eri appears just in time for a misunderstanding moment.

You gotta keep reading.. just to see what happens next, but then a boring chapter that plays in Tenma's house comes along. Feh, screw that, I wanna see how Eri reacts to seeing Harima's nude body. That's just an example, so I skip that chapter

I like Yakumo's character, I think she'd fit better in a pure romance manga, but her Character does have a good place in School Rumble as Eri's dangerous rival in love.

Sephiroth_760
2009-06-08, 07:24
What he is saying that Yakumo's stand-alone story may not be interesting for the fans, except few hardcore Yakumo fanatics. Yakumo by herself would not be able to produce longer lasting excitement. It would be B chapters one after another and poeple would be bored.


it wouldn't fit SR since SR is filled with comedy and action
but a story about Yakumo would not be that boring, it's just another kind of anime/manga

I can imagine an anime based on Yakumo, something about The Slice of Life, Feelings and Romance and of course very calm since Yakumo is almost the calmed character in SR (right after Akira xD)

the anime would not be about comedy and something, it would be about her lifestory, maybe even a few episodes with her trying to get along with guys, her father and stuff like that

Yakumo creates excitement on her on way, maybe not fitted for everybody
but like I said, I could imagine an anime with Yakumo as main character


... something like ef or true tears :P:P

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-08, 08:13
imagine an anime based on Yakumo, something about The Slice of Life, FeelingI can s and Romance and of course very calm since Yakumo is almost the calmed character in SR (right after Akira xD)



Of course im NICEr then Darknemo!!! (Despite my Hostile name CaptainSmoker) what did you Expect!!! (:P) Seriously though if you read my posts from a year before after the blunder of 283 I was one pissed off fan :frustrated: , I still kind of am, but pissed at KJ not Yakumo fans... btw I don’t think darknemo is being angry he likes to argue as I do, and the point he is arguing is that Yakumo cant carry a story line on her own... as I am...

Its like asking Akira or Ichijou to carry a story, three characters with similar passive silent personalities that have a very monotone response to every situation, which is withdrawal and depression(WHOOHOO! :heh: )… not what most fans are looking for…

To me it seems that the emo male characters are more popular then the female ones… cloud ff7, Brandon from gungrave, sauske from naruto etc

Basically everyone loves Yakumo but there is a reason KJ made Tenma and Harima the lead characters, both appeal to a wide fan base, both are funny, stupid and random… Yakumo is not :eyespin:

Gambino009
2009-06-08, 10:20
Akira can probably pull it off.. she's hella funny

She does odd things.. mission impossible things... and even that part where she had Harima all figured out with the Beach accident.

The thing I like about Ichijou is that she's doing hard work.. carries heavy crap and when she gets hit with a girly moment she ends up dropping the junk on some one.

She reminds me a lot of Milly Thompson, she walks in a club full of dangerous looking men.. they're all staring at her... when she gets close to a table the guys all trying to intimidate her

Then that big ass mini-gun thing drops out of her dress, hits a table.. and knocks some f00s teeth out. They get pissed.. she apologizes, picks the thing up One-handed like nothing and scares the hell out of em.

yakumo-chan
2009-06-08, 10:24
I like Yakumo's character, I think she'd fit better in a pure romance manga, but her Character does have a good place in School Rumble as Eri's dangerous rival in love.

definitely.....

but not with harima.... i think harima is for eri only...;)

harima and yakumo for me is not compatible... really....

maybe a new guy who is immune from reading his mind.....
or a guy who will still love her even if she reads his mind...
but still... its still wrong to read his mind....;)


but a story about Yakumo would not be that boring, it's just another kind of anime/manga

I can imagine an anime based on Yakumo, something about The Slice of Life, Feelings and Romance and of course very calm since Yakumo is almost the calmed character in SR (right after Akira xD)

the anime would not be about comedy and something, it would be about her lifestory, maybe even a few episodes with her trying to get along with guys, her father and stuff like that

Yakumo creates excitement on her on way, maybe not fitted for everybody
but like I said, I could imagine an anime with Yakumo as main character


... something like ef or true tears :P:P

thats what im trying to say.....
its not a comedy anymore.... well a little bit of romantic comedy.....

its because this mind reading story is really something!
it can make one hell of a story...
with a mix of that magical cat and Ghost....


Of course im NICEr then Darknemo!!! (Despite my Hostile name CaptainSmoker) what did you Expect!!! (:P) Seriously though if you read my posts from a year before after the blunder of 283 I was one pissed off fan :frustrated: , I still kind of am, but pissed at KJ not Yakumo fans... btw I don’t think darknemo is being angry he likes to argue as I do, and the point he is arguing is that Yakumo cant carry a story line on her own... as I am...
Yes....

That is why Harima and Eri are also cooperating/participating the story of yakumo....


Its like asking Akira or Ichijou to carry a story, three characters with similar passive silent personalities that have a very monotone response to every situation, which is withdrawal and depression(WHOOHOO! :heh: )… not what most fans are looking for…

actually... akira can be also a main character...
she has some mysterious story from school rumble....
which is she knows how to use Guns....
and she work from a secret organization...
and saving innocent peole...
just like what i've said before.....
if she is a main character, it will be an action manga/anime not a comedy anymore....
[/QUOTE]


To me it seems that the emo male characters are more popular then the female ones… cloud ff7, Brandon from gungrave, sauske from naruto etc

Basically everyone loves Yakumo but there is a reason KJ made Tenma and Harima the lead characters, both appeal to a wide fan base, both are funny, stupid and random… Yakumo is not :eyespin:

yes you're right... ^_^

but basically all this talking will never happen because there is a high chance that school rumble will never come back and SRZ is the last of it:p

Gambino009
2009-06-08, 10:59
Funny thing.. none of those supposedly Emo male characters mentioned... are Emo in any way other than morons assuming they're Emo. Emotionally unstable.. than perhaps, but Emo as in the current trend that goes this days.. then pretty soon doing anything that's considered Emo will make all of us Emo.

Those characters actually have good story background, have people even played FFVII?

Anyways on a more school Rumble related term, There's been many chapters that didn't have Harima or Eri in it but had Yakumo that were quite funny. Such as the Yaoi Hanai chapter XD

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-08, 15:36
Funny thing.. none of those supposedly Emo male characters mentioned... are Emo in any way other than morons assuming they're Emo. Emotionally unstable.. than perhaps, but Emo as in the current trend that goes this days.. then pretty soon doing anything that's considered Emo will make all of us Emo.

Those characters actually have good story background, have people even played FFVII?

Anyways on a more school Rumble related term, There's been many chapters that didn't have Harima or Eri in it but had Yakumo that were quite funny. Such as the Yaoi Hanai chapter XD
:sad:
I think being Emo is not a bad thing at all, to me its a description, i think people that express there feelings are strong good people, takes guts to do so, but there is something called excessive emo-ness(dont feel like thinking of proper term) where people like Yakumo, cloud or Sauske make one situation become the focal point of there life… when you allow your life to be consumed with sadness then of course its not good…

I will create a new stereo type today! ALL Anime fans have played ff7!!! If it were not for ff7 I would have never known that Japan even existed! Really though most every1 I know has that has some admiration for anime has had experience with 1 of three things or all three dbz, sailor moon and ff7

About your hanai point I think your crediting hanai for being funny not Yakumo

BTW GUYS its not the end of the world if your not funny, a lot of great characters are not funny so I like Yakumo the way she is, im just saying SR is traditionally a comedy first, and Yakumo does not fit the description!

Hanai on the other hand… man I think you can make a story on that guy, he is awesome, hes my top 5 fave character, and the guy has something good going with mikoto and akira so why not?

Sephiroth_760
2009-06-08, 16:30
:sad:
I think being Emo is not a bad thing at all, to me its a description, i think people that express there feelings are strong good people, takes guts to do so, but there is something called excessive emo-ness(dont feel like thinking of proper term) where people like Yakumo, cloud or Sauske make one situation become the focal point of there life… when you allow your life to be consumed with sadness then of course its not good…

to be honest - I hate all these emo stuff^^
it's like a virus lol
originally, emo is just an excuse for asian clothing style (better said japanese)
but when did it happen to be a stereotype for life-is-senseless-opinions >.<
and that's what I hate most about it ... appearently, most of those "emos" are just doing the style, but there's the other sort who lives emo

I mean ... we all suffer in life, life' hard and rough ... but still no reason to cut yourself or something xD
and I don't take it as excuse for strong emotional ppl

ah man sry guys to bother u with this stuff
it's just that I really hate all those emo-stuff and I'm getting so worked up if I hear this damn word xD

and now! back to topic xD
Cloud for sure is kinda emo
I don't get it way but he's so negative all the time xD

Yakumo probably is emotional unstable, too
but I wouldn't go so far to call her an emo
because she tries her best to do things better and she's always searching for her happiness and not like Cloud whining about everything hahaha xD


I will create a new stereo type today! ALL Anime fans have played ff7!!! If it were not for ff7 I would have never known that Japan even existed! Really though most every1 I know has that has some admiration for anime has had experience with 1 of three things or all three dbz, sailor moon and ff7


hmm, that'll work out!
I mean, these 3 points do all match me!! hahaha xD
I even watched Sailor Moon when I was young!!! hell I liked that show, all the girls transforming into beautiful-sailorclothes-wearing-cosplayers xD



About your hanai point I think your crediting hanai for being funny not Yakumo

BTW GUYS its not the end of the world if your not funny, a lot of great characters are not funny so I like Yakumo the way she is, im just saying SR is traditionally a comedy first, and Yakumo does not fit the description!

just like I said, Yakumo is in another league, she's not comedy or something, but she's calm and she has an aura which makes her able to play a man role^^


Hanai on the other hand… man I think you can make a story on that guy, he is awesome, hes my top 5 fave character, and the guy has something good going with mikoto and akira so why not?

I agree
Hanai is one of the funniest characters in SR
I would love to see a few more scenes about him and Tougou or Harima xDD
everytime so worked up haha xD
and I really liked Tougou, too xDDD
he was soo funny xD
"bravo, bravo" these and that and long speeches here and there hahahaa xD

remember guys:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8706/screenshot4j.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4j.jpg)

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-08, 19:41
It may sound like im backtracking now but I agree with you that “kind” of emo is definitely something that makes me choke with laughter particularly the ones your talking about, but I was referring to emos such as Cloud, Yakumo etc, people that cant move on no matter what its like MOVE ON already hehe

Yes cloud is a weird case indeed, I don’t get what his problem is so what his girlfriend died, but you have another awesome girl there waiting for you!!! (kind of like Harima tenma and Eri) Some guys are born to die alone heh

kenjiharima
2009-06-08, 19:57
First ever blond twintail laughs at the image posted.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MagicalKanan/HAHAHAHAHA.jpg

Man look at the size of that animal! How the hell did Togou tamed that? Well that makes him above Hanai, but not in speed though.

Melee428
2009-06-09, 01:34
Does anyone know if the summary of the Manga included in the OVA was ever subbed? I've got some friends who want to know what happens, but don't really want to read the manga...

yakumo-chan
2009-06-09, 19:17
yes....
my friends also dont want to read the manga....
damn SR... what a watse......

kenjiharima
2009-06-09, 23:52
damn SR... what a watse......

No it wasn't it was a ride of a life time. Till it lasted.

KonataChan
2009-06-16, 01:54
lol, hilarious

CaptainSmoker
2009-06-16, 13:19
remember guys:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8706/screenshot4j.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4j.jpg)

Btw whats with these random japanese artists making animals in sumo clothing etc, i notice they love throwing in some random animal in human clothing at times like that kappa stuff... maybe its just in anime but to me it seems like a major part of japanese culture to do these random things... or maybe its supose to be funny but it doesnt make me laugh it rather makes me go... :twitch:

zebra
2009-06-16, 15:26
You know what's even more surreal? Female sumos XD Saw some on friday.

Melee428
2009-06-16, 19:06
yes....
my friends also dont want to read the manga....
damn SR... what a watse......

Yes? So they were actually translated?

nator316
2009-06-16, 22:16
Who's this girl riding him.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/973/ere.jpg

she acts like Mikoto around him.

Solafighter
2009-06-17, 02:22
I forgot her name but if you look carefully, she is not riding him. She is "riding" the arms, she is sittin on(that sounds so wrong~).
She doesnt realy act like Mikoto and she gives a damn about him. ;)

zebra
2009-06-17, 08:31
That's Mai. The class representtive and childhood friend of Nishimoto, the buddha guy. She slaps him sometimes with a fan.
She's the one who had that magical girl dream XD

Solafighter
2009-06-17, 13:58
That's Mai. The class representtive and childhood friend of Nishimoto, the buddha guy. She slaps him sometimes with a fan.
She's the one who had that magical girl dream XD

Yeah right. Now i remember. Thanks for reminding me/us, zebra. :)

kenjiharima
2009-06-18, 12:01
Adding something about Mai. She has big boobs, but hides it.

Gambino009
2009-06-18, 21:27
She got stuck with Imadori during the riding contest, she unintentionally eliminated herself by hitting Imadori across the head and falling off when he collapsed.

Later is seen choking him shortly after losing.

CaptainSmoker
2009-07-25, 09:13
You know what's even more surreal? Female sumos XD Saw some on friday.

what!!!??? Tremendous gender confusion for those who see this... please never post a pic

zebra
2009-07-30, 20:03
Sure? I have photos ... XD