Clannad ~After Story~ - Episode 01 Discussion / Poll [Archive]

monir

2008-10-01, 11:37

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monir

2008-10-02, 11:33

As Klash has just informed me, the episode has about 20+ hours to go before it's scheduled airing time. I'll have this thread closed until we near the countdown in hopes to curve down the noise:signal post ratio. It's a measure that is necessary to improve the quality of the discussion.

edit: With about half an hour to go for the episode to air, the thread is now open for business. Any idle chit-chat post will be deleted.

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 11:56

Considering the possible spoiler fest due of the source material and the expected reactions for the second season, we will follow the same guideline we used for Code Geass.

Anyone who posts spoilers that should not be posted outside of the spoiler thread will be granted a very special 1 day ban infraction.
Any repeated case will grant the usual "spoiler infraction" which will result into the 3 days ban.Also, any countdown and completely idle chit chat (such like "first!" "can't wait the subs!!" etc) might lead to the same result.

It has been very clear that we must use severe and proper infractions, in order to keep the threads clean and proper for discussion for everyone, instead of acting when it is too late.

Ascaloth

2008-10-02, 12:02

...you know the mods are angry when the first three posts in what is supposed to be a potentially popular thread are posted by them, telling everyone "the whole freakin' lot of you better obey the rules.....or else." :uhoh:

Well. I've been waiting for this for months on end now, and it's so cool it's starting already. Probably won't get to watching this for another 20 hours though, since I already have plans for the night. :(

LoweGear

2008-10-02, 12:07

*whistles*

So while practicing for Screenshot mania...

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/spec_operations/1222966813091ac82.jpg

And a few more scenes:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/spec_operations/1222966841740b5c1.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/spec_operations/1222966861398ffd9.jpg

Kristen

2008-10-02, 12:13

So, I'm watching it live, and one thing I have to say is that the OP definately is different than what I was expecting. Very Lia-ish feel, and definately a much more invigorating one than last year. Now I'm going to get into specifics, so spoiler tag time!

I found it interesting how they used some of the scenes from the visual fan book that were meant to be supplemental fan service, like Nagisa in that black cape, and Nagisa with an umbrella. It stalled out on me, so I didn't see much more than that. But it is definately a Nagisa-themed OP, contrary to the illusionary one I thought it would be

Aizu

2008-10-02, 12:21

Yeah, I'm watching it live too. It's nice. Opening is really great and you can find even some shots based on some older scans and visual fanbook ! Wow, great job as always, Kyoto ! I like this opening. Btw, looks like that there are also two new song remixes at least for this moment, but I can't say it exactly now until raw due the not really good audio quality.

Oh my, last shots before ending are amazing ! And ending is funny and lively enough.

Utau

2008-10-02, 12:24

ep.1 just ended!

- love the new OP;Toki wo Kizamu Uta by Lia.
- Tomoyo KICK!!
- Okazaki's antics is still made of WIN. He make Sunohara's life misreble.
- Tomoyo <33
- Misae and Yoshino known each other?
- note to self; Akio is a great pitcher but a bad hitter.
- Kyou; HOMERUN!
- TomoyaxTomoyo, Tomoyo; EPIC HOMERUN! hard hitter for a first timer.
- Kotomi the living calculator LOL!! she was trying to calculate her hit and predict the ball XD
- i feel sorry for Nagisa, AKio just let her down XD
- Tomoyo deciding to go for how a woman should hit.
- Lol at Yoshino that made me laugh out hard :heh: he hit it the 2nd time but got out bcoz of acting all cool and saying sth GAR. He cracks me up! No wonder Mei likes him.
- Sunohara sux.
- Tomoya's turn was breath taking. Luckily, he made the shot and their team won.
- love the ED <3

Tomoyo FTW!!

Aizu

2008-10-02, 12:25

Btw, they added their own scenes or some different version of them from the game.

- Poor Sunohara.
- Baseball match was really nice.

9 out of 10 : Excellent.

Utau

2008-10-02, 12:30

yeah

but what made me like it even better was because of Yoshino

Nightengale

2008-10-02, 12:39

Hmm, yeah. Just watched it. It's a 'good' episode, but it feels very much unlike the first episode of a returning series or even a direct continuance from where it left off. There's like a feeling of 'blankness' in the episode, but otherwise, it's a great episode in which the charms of the characters show themselves nicely.

The OP was nicely Nagisa-centric, without completely forgetting most of others. I lol-ed though at the fact Ryou's not there, despite her larger ease at some things. It's good to see that Kotomi, Kyou and Tomoyo aren't out of the story... yet.

The pacing of the episode was typical Clannad in a good way. Take a point, get the characters, work their interaction magic, and went downhills from there. It helps that it's not the usual team, and thus feels fresher with other interactions and stuff like Akio-Tomoyo, etc etc.

And the winners of this episode goes to Yuusuke and Akio respectively. :D

The episode can do without the blatant melodramatics of Tomoya's last at-bat down right to the bgm, but meh. It's a good sign for his character anyway.

I'm personally disappointed that Sunohara is still in the blanks of Sanae = Nagisa's mom. It's just kinda awkward at this point. Small nitpicks, but otherwise, we'll see where it goes next. Looks like Sunohara episode next... and the point of awkwardness.

Good episode. Some flaws here and there, but genuinely Clannad.

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 12:40

Let's see. usual little summary (a bit less awkward than before... I hope :heh:)

After Story Episode 1 (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/clannad-after-story-episode-1/)

As usual, very faithful to the original material, with some nice additions to match the whole context of the anime (Kotomi and Kouko, to say the least).
Nothing exactly outstanding, but very fun and heartwarming as usual. A very nice start.

EDIT: caps uploaded

mouhitori

2008-10-02, 12:55

Nice episode, and agreed, great new opening song.

Felt like it's just the next day after last episode of first season.
Favorite episode: Yoshino on his second scripted speech:heh:
Quick summary (http://mouhitori.blogspot.com/2008/10/clannad-after-story-1goodbye-at-end-of.html)

Vegard Aune

2008-10-02, 13:26

Because I'm too impatient to wait for the episode to be available and check this myself: Was the ending-theme also based on game-BGM? And if so, which one?

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 13:29

No, pretty much like the OP, it is completely original, sung by LIA as well, until I missed completely a remix CD that included it.
But as far as I know, it isn't based on any original VN BGM at all.

EDIT: I stand corrected (for the OP mention): the OP is based on 同じ高みへ, but I really can't identify any possible "source" for the ED.

Aizu

2008-10-02, 13:37

No, it isn't based on any BGM, it's completely a new track. Very nice track.

Proto

2008-10-02, 13:37

I swear one day I'll find the place when you get all those early broadcasts... meanwhile I'll just wait for a charitable soul to go to niconico :p

DmonHiro

2008-10-02, 13:50

Please tell me this time, it will OLNY air in WS, not that 4:3 now WS in 3 weeks BS

SidVicious

2008-10-02, 13:50

Looks like the RAW is out.

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 13:52

Please tell me this time, it will OLNY air in WS, not that 4:3 now WS in 3 weeks BS
It has been confirmed that it will follow the same airing pattern than last year, so 4:3, then WS. That's the usual BS-I/TSB trouble...

DmonHiro

2008-10-02, 13:54

It has been confirmed that it will follow the same airing pattern than last year, so 4:3, then WS. That's the usual BS-I/TSB trouble...

DAMN YOU!!! I SAID TO TELL ME IT WON'T BE LIKE THAT!!!! :sad::sad::sad::sad:

WHY WHY WHY!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY WHY???!!!! :T_T::T_T::T_T:

What could the reason POSSIBLY be?

Aizu

2008-10-02, 13:56

Rewatching episode in ws for more TV ratings.

DmonHiro

2008-10-02, 14:01

Rewatching episode in ws for more TV ratings.

Damn you Key....you always WERE a smart one.

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 14:04

Damn you Key....you always WERE a smart one.
Please don't make such statement. Even if Key certainly get their share of cake with the anime, it is absolutely unrelated to them or even Kyoto Animation. This is quite the usual problem with BS-I/TBS as they are parent channels, so to give a proper "advantage" for BS-I watchers (as it isn't a free channel, unlike TBS, until I recall wrong), the scale of shows etc are different. (or to be more crude : it force people to get the fee for BS-I)

This problem is rather from the TV channels than the source/makers of the series.

Vegard Aune

2008-10-02, 14:06

Rewatching episode in ws for more TV ratings.
...And then making the widescreen-version intentionally sub-par (bad colors) so people will have more of a reason to buy the DVDs, so they'll make even more money. From a marketing-POV, it's brilliant, but as a fan... Not so much. I can't get the DVDs before they're released in America anyway, so having to wait that long to see the show in its correct aspect-ratio AND with proper colors is pretty annoying. But I guess I shouldn't complain... After all, I'm not even supposed to SEE the show at all until it's out on DVD...

(Or, I could get the japanese DVDs, but honestly, those prices are just too high for me.)

FLCL

2008-10-02, 14:16

nice episode

is there a IRC group for this yet?

Kristen

2008-10-02, 14:25

Don't worry. Last year, BS-i went from 3 weeks behind, to 2, and eventually to 1. I'm expecting somthing similar.

musume_no_hoshi

2008-10-02, 15:25

Fuwaaa, the opening is good. Animation, song wise, everything from the opening is perfect. I love the part where you see Kyou riding on her bike.

Best part of the episode
Kotomi's calculation on how to hit the ball, she's one true human calculator

The ending song is better then Dango Daikazoku, but it feels slightly more of a typical ending animation then the dangos.

Kristen

2008-10-02, 16:07

Another thing about the OP:

When it shows the characters, it's extremely interesting that they didn't highlight Fuuko and show her name. I really have to wonder why. Knowing the full story I'm trying to piece together a reason, but I can't come up with one

monir

2008-10-02, 16:24

Too much to ask for screencaps for those unlucky ones who are sneaking in responses from work? :uhoh::)

Klashikari

2008-10-02, 16:25

Updated on my side, and barely 2-3 minutes ago :heh:

Master Anime

2008-10-02, 16:27

Just Finished Watched
Nice 1st Episode and i like the OP song

panzerfan

2008-10-02, 16:44

I find the op really... prophetic too.

This is really a sweet episode. For the first time, we see the greater cast connected together as the show begins to move beyond the nucleus 'family' of Tomoya and Nagisa and extends itself.

Can't wait to see the next episode.

rave_master16

2008-10-02, 19:07

lol at Youhei Sunohara this episode....
They really are centering the theme family this time than the last season..

rave_master16

2008-10-02, 19:47

It's definitely Sunohara siblings route however you can add any route like Misae or Kappei's arc if we see him...

Sterling01

2008-10-02, 20:29

Why am I watching this... I said I wouldn't watch this... But here I am watching it. Damn you KyoAni.
Hmm I thought it would only feature "that girl" and Nagisa but instead we get the full batch except Fuko ;-;.
Does this mean we might get more of Kyou's route as it does have "that scene"?

Kaisos Erranon

2008-10-02, 20:34

Shinigami_Mello

2008-10-02, 20:37

I've not seen it yet (if only I could understand), but wow, I just watched the opening and felt like I could cry. It was so beautiful...

Sterling01

2008-10-02, 20:41

That's not Kyou. Blue eyes, it's Ryou.
Damn it... eye contacts maybe :heh::heh:

alex253320

2008-10-02, 21:29

awesome episode I still can't believe I watched something so beautiful I only got like 20 percent of the dialog but I understood everything since I have played the game.

Btw does anyone knows the name of the op song?

Proto

2008-10-02, 21:32

Onaji takami he. A vocal version from one of the OST tracks.

mouhitori

2008-10-02, 21:34

Btw does anyone knows the name of the op song?

It's Toki wo kizamu uta

Proto

2008-10-02, 21:44

Err... what mouhitori said. I've been making a lot of slip ups as of late :p

Ojamajo LimePie

2008-10-02, 21:49

I gave it a 9 out of 10 since I loved the episode and found it to be excellent, but feel that I need to save the 10's for the inevitable occurrence of even better episodes once the story really gets going later on.

The OP is my favorite so far this season, and will likely continue to hold that honor. It's a little odd not to hear MagMell at the start of a CLANNAD episode, but the new song is a beautiful replacement. I love the focus of the visuals on Nagisa, since After Story is really all about her and Tomoya.

rainnydaiis

2008-10-02, 21:54

I loved the op, just watching it I knew I was in for a good episode and I wasen't disappointed. It was pretty much a wonderful start for this season.

MeoTwister5

2008-10-02, 21:56

I'm still debating whether to download the RAW now or wait for the Sub.

Pweh.

irrelevance

2008-10-02, 22:22

First episode starts out with the baseball route, which is plenty of lolz factors :D
It seems so nostalgic, seeing all the casts again. "Toki wo Kizamu Uta" fits really well for the feelings of After Story, while I think "Dango Daikazoku" is better than "Torch".
Overall: A pure comedy episode, but also heartwarming at the few last minutes. I'd give a 9/10, plus an extra point for the beginning of a new Clannad season, which makes it a 10/10. I believe this will become one of the best show this year if KyoAni play their cards right. =))

Kristen

2008-10-02, 23:13

I'm still debating whether to download the RAW now or wait for the Sub.

Pweh.

Subtitles will be out soon enough, and they will probably be at an even more reliable time than the raw. I'll wait.

Leo_Otaku

2008-10-02, 23:23

Wow that was really awesome. I was having a not so great week and it made my day.

-First off wow the opening was amazing! The song and the art so perfect!
- Lots of fun ^-^ I enjoyed it greatly
-Yuusuke was simply awesome XD as well as Misae.
- We know is to come for the next few episodes now...
-ED was really cute so now we know who's stories will be done ^-^ (excited)

Can't wait till next week!!!!

Nochgo

2008-10-02, 23:41

Ahh I loved the first episode, even though I only understood about 50%. Clannad AS will make this anime season spectacular for me.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 00:41

Subtitles will be out soon enough, and they will probably be at an even more reliable time than the raw. I'll wait.
Well, there is another more interesting detail - still nowhere an x264 version of Clannad AS. I mean from sources, where all raws are coming from, if you know what I mean (you obviously should). That can delay a bit some fansubbers.

Or they will release divx version faster (if they are releasing also this versions too) or simply re-encode it to x264. Anything is not so nice anyway.

LustfulEnvy

2008-10-03, 00:51

Omg Its here! *Runs of to watch it!!1*

Mirrinus

2008-10-03, 01:00

Hmm, I had no idea it was going to start this early...for some reason I had thought it wouldn't start for a few more weeks. Ah well, perhaps it's time I end my hiatus.

Definitely looking forward to this season, despite having been totally out of the loop for a while.

Vegard Aune

2008-10-03, 02:02

Here is my extremely short review of the first episode:

Opening: It's awesome. Also, Fuko was in it for about half a second, which propably means that she WILL appear in this season too, even though she apparently wasn't listed in the cast on the homepage.

Episode itself: It was pretty good. I especially liked Kotomi's super-advanced calculations for how to hit a ball, and the following dialogue:
Tomoyo: So, what did you want?
Tomoya: It seems like Sunohara wants to do something perverted to you.
*Sunohara is kicked into a wall... Again.*

Ending: Not bad. It's better than Dango Daikazoku, at least.

wontaek

2008-10-03, 04:59

It seems that I'm the only one who knows that the start of the Yuusuke's speech after he hit the baseball is the legendary line uttered by Nitta in Touch Movie #2 when he sent Uesugi Tatsuya's imitation Kazuya pitch to the behind the centerfield scoreboard. I feel old...

SealedTime

2008-10-03, 05:13

Lols.Yuusuke was too carried away with his "speech". Ah Clannad After story finally came out.. Been waiting for it ... On the other hand kotomi looks like kyou with the helmet on

hai_san

2008-10-03, 05:19

Great opening episode for 2nd serie, after all the mechas drama and love drama and melodrama from CG and Macross, i feel somehow relieved for a not so much brain stress serie.

Only negatives are like the new OP and ED, the old ones are better in my opinion.

Mecha_Trueno

2008-10-03, 05:24

i know this is a dumb question but...So, I'm watching it live, and...Yeah, I'm watching it live too.how?:confused: are you guys literally living in japan watching it live, or is there some other way?

anyway just finished ep1, great episode overall:DTomoyo: So, what did you want?
Tomoya: It seems like Sunohara wants to do something perverted to you.
*Sunohara is kicked into a wall... Again.*lol... here we are with a brand new season 2, 5 minutes into the first epsiode, and sunohara gets beaten up already:heh: thats when you think "yup, this is definitely clannad i'm watching and not something else"

found it funny in the scene where tomoya convinces yoshino to play for them, with his ballsh*t story... all three of them actually believed it:heh:

did anyone notice this: go watch the part where mei was batting again, somewhere at around 19min50sec (zero-raws version)... :twitch:lol, was she even taking it serious:heh:
when i first saw nagisa in the helmet, she reminded me of mikuru-chan (suzumiya haruhi) in the helmet:p

btw, is it just me... or did misae-san seem hotter than usual in this episode?:naughty:
sanae-san is still a yummy looking MILF:D... BANZAI!!!

EDIT: forgot to mention... did anyone else find that kotomi's first line (in the club room) didn't quite sound like kotomi? what happened there? did mamiko start her engines a little late getting into 'kotomi mode' or something? ...or is it just my ears f*cking with me?:confused:

Westlo

2008-10-03, 05:32

Really loving the new OP.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 05:47

What are this questions ? Use simply mms channels or online tv-tuners, but don't forget that for good quality you need a nice one connection.

Raniie

2008-10-03, 06:26

With the episode out and in full viewing. I won't be posting in spoiler tags. If you came into this thread, then you should've watched the episode already.

This is a good first episode for a new season of a returning series. Pacing was good, tho, I had hope they would've done the other side-story before the baseball one. It would've been a better follow-up for this episode.

What probably intrigues the many of us (that had play the game) is the OP. Seems KyoAni is going to be using a lot of original work and materials they didn't get to use in the first season before heading into Nagisa AS arc. Using OG material isn't a bad thing, since I really enjoyed this episode with the way it turned out. It's great seeing it being done on a different perspective than from the game's point of view, but still remain faithful to the game's overall feel and story branching. I hope they keep it up and don't disappoint.

Another note to add is, the OP share a similar format to Air OP.

I wonder if the ED has any hidden message, if it's played backwards from end to start. o.O -So we would see Tomoya and the others walk forward, instead of backwards.

ep.1 just ended!

- love the new OP;Toki wo Kizamu Uta by Lia.
- Tomoyo KICK!!
- Okazaki's antics is still made of WIN. He make Sunohara's life misreble.
- Tomoyo <33
- Misae and Yoshino known each other?
- note to self; Akio is a great pitcher but a bad hitter.
- Kyou; HOMERUN!
- TomoyaxTomoyo, Tomoyo; EPIC HOMERUN! hard hitter for a first timer.
- Kotomi the living calculator LOL!! she was trying to calculate her hit and predict the ball XD
- i feel sorry for Nagisa, AKio just let her down XD
- Tomoyo deciding to go for how a woman should hit.
- Lol at Yoshino that made me laugh out hard :heh: he hit it the 2nd time but got out bcoz of acting all cool and saying sth GAR. He cracks me up! No wonder Mei likes him.
- Sunohara sux.
- Tomoya's turn was breath taking. Luckily, he made the shot and their team won.
- love the ED <3

Tomoyo FTW!!

Just to correct you there. Akio is actually a great hitter as well. In the snip where he wasn't able to hit the ball is not because he sucked. It's because the pitcher intentionally walked him. Thanks to Tomoyo, hitting a grand slam, scoring 4 pts for the team.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 06:26

Well, I can answer you but not here - only in spoilers and speculations.

Ruhisu

2008-10-03, 06:43

The new opening theme is really awesome, a lot better than the previous one.
Same with the ending which is really nice.

About the episode. I couldn't make because of big ROTFL when Yuusuke was giving his reflections after each ball. XD

Also Kotomi-chan as a living calculator totally smashed me.
Ball trajectory, speed, wind power etc. XD

And one thing...
Sunohara you sux!

Eczema

2008-10-03, 07:35

Thought it was an ok episode. The plot hasn't really gotten started so I can't judge the series' direction yet. This was basically a fun/fanservice episode, giving pretty much everyone almost equal screentime. I have to say though, that the OP is absolutely stunning. I liked Megumeru, but this was just beautiful. The ED is ok - I prefer Dango Daikazoku. Some characters I don't recognize were present too. New characters or perhaps I just forgot about them from the first season. I also noticed that there is an error in the ED. Kyou and Ryou are shown to both be wearing thigh-high socks, but Ryou does not usually wear them to that height. She usually only wears them to ankle-height IIRC.

Next episode appears to be about Sunohara, which I will greatly anticipate. Also in the preview, what is Tomoya parodying when he says "That's it!"? Sailor Moon?

SealedTime

2008-10-03, 08:29

dont u find the part where u see nagisa familiar? Remember the scene during the last part of the game.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 08:31

dont u find the part where u see nagisa familiar?
Excuse me, what ?

Aizu

2008-10-03, 08:45

For Rie only one thing in AS part, that was in game, but it's only a mention, nothing more. As for Sugisaka - I don't know.

As for foreshadows - ahh, I haven't catch the meaning of this word. Yes, that's it and even more.

Asmodeus

2008-10-03, 08:48

I love this new season from Clannad so much¡¡¡ Is fantastic^^:kisskiss:

And I love when Kyou is looking after the childrens^^ IS LOVELY:nod:

Kristen

2008-10-03, 08:50

After watching this, I have to say, Kyoani is a genius. The idea never crossed my mind of how to bridge the seasons together, and I thought that just jumping straight into a route would seem kind of strange. Baseball route! How stupid of me! This was the perfect link for the two seasons, and it's going to create quite an amazing backdrop to the future.

I loved Kotomi-chan's manipulation. If the ball lowering it's angle 40 degrees is 63 percent and the ball is 400 mm and *Insert more complicated stuff here*... I might hit it!

I'm also glad that even when trying to get a filler episode so as to not hit us hard all at once, they stay true to the game.

Next episode: False love? I'm liking the sounds of 24 episodes now.

10/10 for being genius.

rave_master16

2008-10-03, 08:55

Now that really surprised me... all my posts are deleted... hehehhehehe..
anyway... I added spoiler wrap beforehand why is it deleted.. anyway... sorry if that spoiled anyone...

And another that surprised me is nobody is voting below 5 in this episode which means so far all are satisfied... For me it's 10/10..

Klashikari

2008-10-03, 09:00

As stated by our guidelines, spoiler tags DON'T cut it for being suitable for such threads. Spoiler tags are actually too often used as excuse to post recklessly, despite these are rarely tagged properly or well used.

This is the reason we don't allow ANY kind of spoilers, being subtle hint or under tags. Just leave episode threads free of these, it will be for the best.

EDIT: Please do NOT MENTION characters that didn't even appear yet in the anime series. Even if you don't explain who they are, it is potent enough to reveal things that aren't shown yet.

rave_master16

2008-10-03, 09:12

SealedTime

2008-10-03, 09:27

well the game has a scene exactly like that one and it foreshadows a lot of events

Dop

2008-10-03, 09:32

Well I loved that. What a way to kick off the new series, with a "the gang's all here" (well, almost all) opening episode of a baseball match. Loved it, from beginning to end.

Okaeri Nasai Clannad. It's like you've never been away.

SidVicious

2008-10-03, 09:44

10/10

Nagisa is just too cute.

bladeofdarkness

2008-10-03, 09:45

three things
1)the ep sent me from a "code geass mecha anime kicking ass and taking names" mindframe right back to the clannad mind frame in 24 minuts
as imersive as it comes
2)i love the new OP beyond anything i have ever expected (i was thinking that it would suck since i liked megumaru so much) i actually had a tear in my i during the end of it (the isumademo oboeteru part)
3)i loved the way nagisa was kinda looking at tomoya when he was helping tomoyo, i hope this gets explored during the show since nagisa and tomoyo have been alternating in my fav clannad girl list for a while now
nagisa is sweet beyond compare and was my fav during the entire first season
but tomoyo has a certain charm that extends beyond the standard action girl level and the OVA made me really love her
i hope they mannaged to incorporate some of the tomoyo after into this one (tomoya hooking up with tomoyo for a short while before going back to nagisa)

Ruhisu

2008-10-03, 09:50

10/10

Nagisa is just too cute.

I second that but I can't tell directly which char is the one I love the most since there is also Tomoyo :love: and Kotomi :love::love:

Kinny Riddle

2008-10-03, 09:57

Was looking forward to whether they'll come up with a new OP, and was not disappointed in the tune paying homage to the original song it was adapted from.

Was pleasantly surprised to find this series starting off with the "Baseball Route", with Kotomi standing in for Fuuko for obvious reasons. The baseball game serves its purpose well by reintroducing everyone after the interval. In fact, one could just watch this right after watching episode 23 of the first series and won't even feel like anything's gone missing.

We finally get to see the side of Yoshino we never knew. lol

I'm going to need time for the ED to grow on me.

Here's the list of the parade of characters walking from the last person to the first, as far as I can recognize:

1. Koumura - The old teacher
2. Sanae-san
3. Akio
4. ??? <--- I have an idea who this is now, but revealing it now risks the wrath of the mods. (Hint: all characters next to each other are related in some way or another. )
5. Yukine
6. Sunohara
7. Mei
8. Misae-san
9. Misae-san's cat
10. Tomoyo
11. Takafumi - Tomoyo's little brother (seen briefly in flashback in ep 18)
12. Yoshino
13. Kouko-san
14. Sugisaka - Of the Chorus Club
15. Nishina - Of the Chorus Club
16. Kotomi's guardian
17. Kotomi
18. Botan
19. Ryou
20. Kyou
21. Nagisa
22. Tomoya

Fuuko's notably absent from this parade for obvious reasons, so is another character, unfortunately.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 10:04

SidVicious

2008-10-03, 10:05

One of them looks like Yukine to me.

Kinny Riddle

2008-10-03, 10:07

And upper post will be deleted soon. Just read the reasons of some deleted posts. Btw, I like Dango Daizkazoku ending more then Torch. Songs are nice in two cases, but scenes not so. It's good, yes, but nothing more.
What's that supposed to mean? I didn't even mention anything from the "future". If it's the youtube link, I've removed it.

Klashikari

2008-10-03, 10:18

Ironically enough it seems that the very usual problem for listing the characters in the ending won't affect your post since it doesn't show the "non yet appeared character name" :heh:

just 2 quick corrections: it is not fuuko, but indeed Yukine. The character behind her has not appeared yet, so it will be kept for later, perhaps.
Also, Tomoyo's brother's name is Takafumi, not Fumihiko.

SidVicious

2008-10-03, 10:22

Any info if they are going to release a single with the new OP/ED themes?

Klashikari

2008-10-03, 10:23

That is an Iron Gauntlet rule for anime market, so yes.
Though considering the OST, there are chance they won't release any OST album, pretty much like Kanon and Air.

Aizu

2008-10-03, 10:25

And who knows this really strange reasons not to releasing the whole OST again ?

Klashikari

2008-10-03, 10:27

As far as I know, it is the usual problem with Key being extremely conservative with their royalties etc.
Since Kanon and Air had their major share of original BGM directly from their respective game, I assume that they want to force people to buy the original game OST, even if they are not exactly in big stocks nowadays.

Kinny Riddle

2008-10-03, 10:27

Ironically enough it seems that the very usual problem for listing the characters in the ending won't affect your post since it doesn't show the "non yet appeared character name" :heh:

Knowing how fickle you guys can be, anything's possible. :cool:

just 2 quick corrections: it is not fuuko, but indeed Yukine. The character behind her has not appeared yet, so it will be kept for later, perhaps.

Hmm? Fuuko is in the parade, but not Yukine. You mean to say she might be added in if the story involves her later on?

Edit: Nevermind, I noticed the ahoge on her head. That's Yukine indeed. My bad.

Also, Tomoyo's brother's name is Takafumi, not Fumihiko.

Thanks, mate. I was thinking of another character with the word "fumi" when writing his name.

Klashikari

2008-10-03, 10:29

Hmm? Fuuko is in the parade, but not Yukine. You mean to say she might be added in if the story involves her later on?
Actually, I meant the opposite.
Yukine IS in the parade, but Fuuko is nowhere to be seen.

The girl design is not really like Fuuko's, considering she isn't "short" enough, and got long hair with 2 thick strands of hair on her shoulders, and her characteristic ahoge.

as for the "later in the show", I mean the guy who is behind her, that have yet made an appearance in the show. He "might" be added later on, but considering the ED, they will most likely do that.

Kinny Riddle

2008-10-03, 10:30

Actually, I meant the opposite.
Yukine IS in the parade, but Fuuko is nowhere to be seen.

The girl design is not really like Fuuko's, considering she isn't "short" enough, and got long hair with 2 thick strands of hair on her shoulders, and her characteristic ahoge.

as for the "later in the show", I mean the guy who is behind her, that have yet made an appearance in the show. He "might" be added later on, but considering the ED, they will most likely do that.
Yes, the ahoge gave her away. In that case, I have an idea who no.5 on my list is now.

Darkoff

2008-10-03, 10:57

just watched the ep and i loved it, cant wait for more to come, and about the opening and ending, i shed tears of joy while watching the OP and the ED was really good as well :P

octoberasian

2008-10-03, 11:11

I love the episode. This and Toradora I'm definitely watching this season.

But, this episode was perfectly paced and enjoyable.
That baseball match and Akio's monologue kept me smiling and laughing the entire time. Let's not forget Kotomi's over-analyzing the movement of the baseball and calculating her posture and how hard to hit it. XD

Of course, the animation visuals are absolutely stellar. No noticeable drop in quality. Every frame and art was consistent. I wish a lot more animes were like this.

Oh! The opening song I love it so much already. Has anyone noticed that for the main characters namely Nagisa, Kotomi, Tomoyo, and Kyou, they showed both their present and future selves?

It seems they're hinting at what's to come in this series, with a lot of it focusing on Nagisa of course.

Eczema

2008-10-03, 11:14

This has probably been mentioned already, but the OP is pretty similar to that of Air. Still awesome though.

Solafighter

2008-10-03, 11:40

Great start for the first episode! :cool: :)

Mirrinus

2008-10-03, 12:05

Wow, that was an excellent start to the season. Plenty of laughs were had by all, and it's good to see much of the cast back again.

This episode was quite effective at picking up from where things left off. For a lot of shows, the first episode of a new season is a tricky one, as you must strike a balance between showing new or entertaining things and remind your audience about all that happened last season. At either extreme, you risk either boring long-time faithfuls with an episode of flashbacks and repeated exposition, or alienating casual viewers who don't remember all the intricacies of the plot. Clannad ~After Story~ seems to have pulled this off quite well, though. The faithful are treated to a hilarious story that lets the ensemble shine, while the casual are gradually reminded of each character's backstory, circumstances, and quirks, as well as the main plotlines of the show, such as Nagisa and Tomoya's relationship and Tomoya's enmity towards his father.

I especially enjoyed how each character acted during the baseball game was a natural outpouring of what we already know about their personality, which serves to solidify each character in the minds of those who are just tuning in after a long break from Clannad. We got to see Tomoyo's dichotomy of hardcore force and feminine grace, Yusuke's flair for the dramatic, Akio's child-like hot-bloodedness, and Kotomi's innocent yet shockingly analytical mind. It may have been a long time since we've seen these characters, but right now I feel quite comfortable with each of them, as if it hasn't been so long at all since the show ended last March.

Looking forward to the rest of an enjoyable series.

Utau

2008-10-03, 12:28

Just to correct you there. Akio is actually a great hitter as well. In the snip where he wasn't able to hit the ball is not because he sucked. It's because the pitcher intentionally walked him.

ahh.. thanks for that. It was due to the small skips i was having last night that made me think he missed.

I wonder if Fuuko will ever show up again ;_;

Proto

2008-10-03, 12:42

Asking those type of questions is like asking for someone to be one day banned because they forgot the no spoiler rule. You are so cruel :p

In any case, this episode opened a lot of doors and hints for further episodes and stories to be seamlessly introduced. Kudos to KyoAni and their interweaving abilities.

rainnydaiis

2008-10-03, 13:32

I wonder if Fuuko will ever show up again ;_;

Fuuko is one character that I really wished to see this season. But I'm guessing we will see her sometime soon.

sikvod00

2008-10-03, 13:45

Tomoyo: "No. I want to go for a small, beautiful, and girly hit."
God, I love Tomoyo. :love:

Mirrinus

2008-10-03, 13:49

One more thing that I've got to say about the episode...

I really loved the bit near the end when it came down to Tomoya at bat, when they shifted to the team dinner that night. At first, I thought they just weren't going to show the conclusion to the baseball game, and was a bit disappointed at that. But then I realized that as the characters were all cheerfully having dinner together, it occured to me that I couldn't really say for sure whether they had won or lost yet, until the very end when Akio declared a toast and sync'd the sound of the glasses with Tomoya's victory hit. Before that scene, I could still conceivably imagine that this group of young men and women would be close enough to enjoy their time with one another regardless of the results of a silly little game. What was important wasn't whether or not Tomoya had won the game; after all, there was little more than Akio's pride running on the outcome of that match. Rather, Tomoya himself had already won in a sense; compare the first episode of this season to that of the first season. We've gone from Tomoya being completely alone and apathetic in a world that he hates, to being surrounded by friends and companions in a loving home. The team's dinner together helped put everything in perspective for me; despite the hilarity that was the baseball match, it still didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Thus, when the episode shifted back to Tomoya hitting the ball for the win, the whole thing felt rather anti-climatic for me. Which was perfectly fine, as I had already seen what I wanted to see.

Also, compare this game-winning play by Tomoya to the one from the basketball game in episode 16 of last season. While they share lots of similarities, there were a few notable differences. The basketball game scene was introspective, with Tomoya lamenting over himself before being snapped back by Nagisa. The baseball scene, on the other hand, focused on those around him, which highlights just how much has changed since then for him.

So yeah, even in the midst of a rather light-hearted episode, I really appreciate some of the nuiances that can be gleaned from it. Maybe I'm thinking too much about it, but it's the mere possibility of minor yet fascinating things like this that keeps me interested in a show.

Zenemis

2008-10-03, 13:55

Nice flowing episode, great to see Clannad airing again.

Kaioshin Sama

2008-10-03, 14:29

A slow start, but they managed to make baseball seem fun (psssst....I think it was the girl factor ;) ), although not quite Touch level fun. The animation made excellent use of varying shades of orange as well. Blue made a strong case for itself, but couldn't quite match up.

I'm going to break from other people and say that I have about the same opinion of the new opening as I did of the old one in that it feels like a Visual Novel opening. It works, don't get me wrong, but I wish they had gotten a touch more creative and tried something a little new with this season. Overall the episode had that same old Clannad antics feel to me, but since this show isn't a plot driven story I'm willing to forgive that a little as long as it doesn't carry to far into the series and become it's key driving factor for the next 12 or so episodes. Overall they did what they had to do in bridging the two halves of a longer storyline together and hopefully things get moving soon.

Also the less Sunohara (Will Ferrell) the better. The main character's "dude" best friend trope has never been quite so taxing. :eyespin:

Gave it an 7.5/10 rounded up to an 8/10.

edit: Almost forgot, thanks for making some use of my favourite character there. I'm sure people have figured out who it is by now and not that I'm overly worried if it breaks from the game canon a little of course. In fact I'd encourage it to break from the game a little here and there and hope it happens more often for the added surprise factor for people that have already memorized the entire game a few times. Not where it's critical to the story of course, but in minor areas.

sikvod00

2008-10-03, 14:35

So what do you guys think ...Mei asked Nagisa? Seems like it will be something related to later episodes.

Takuto19

2008-10-03, 16:25

10/10

Was a great episode, really glad there using the other characters for it and slightly deviating from the game, definitely a lot more lively than the games story. As with last seasons first episode it makes me wanting more heh, just can't wait til next week.

velvet

2008-10-03, 16:27

ahh.. thanks for that. It was due to the small skips i was having last night that made me think he missed.

I wonder if Fuuko will ever show up again ;_;

Eh?

I "think" I saw her in the OP, hugging a "character that didn't get its proper appearance yet":heh:

Anyway, Nakahara Mai wins the episode :heh: The way she said stuff half-crying is just supermoe (whatever that may means:rolleyes:)

Lols at the scene where Tomoya BS'ing Yoshino-san, and got both Nagisa and Sunohara crying:heh:

destiny4everlove

2008-10-03, 16:48

Episode 1

-I love how Nagisa is now so used to call Tomoya, Tomoya-kun. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi00.gif

-Love the opening! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi01.gifThe images and the song are both beautiful! And the song (the lyrics) is so fitting for the After Story.

-Love how Akio-san is so accepting of Tomoya being Nagisa’s “guy” that he even asks favors from him now. :)

-Sunohara is still as hilarious as always. :D The Yoshino call was priceless! :heh:

-Tomoya is still great at coming up with the best made up stories! :D

-I like how Nagisa is trying to help Tomoya with the relationship with his father, but judging by Tomoya’s reaction, it was too soon to ask him to meet with his father.

-So Mei-chan is a big fan of Yoshino. Her reaction when she saw him was so cute!! :)

-The scene when Tomoyo said “I’m sorry. I lost the ball” was so cute!!! http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/tele5/smiley/wakuwaku.gif

-Poor Akio-san!!! :upset: That must have hurt a lot!!

-That pitcher change was so unexpected! I liked it so much! :)

-Kotomi is a genius indeed! :heh:

-Yoshino’s speech was priceless! :heh: The best part was when he was informed he was out the first time and when he asked for a time-out the second time. :D

-I’m really curios about the request that Mei-chan made to Nagisa. I wonder what it was.http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/tele5/smiley/huh1.gif

-Tomoya giving the victory to the team was awesome! :cool: I loved that scene!http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i255/tele5/smiley/onegai.gif

Episode 1 was amazing! It was the perfect way to start the new season. :)

kimchipride

2008-10-03, 17:00

I'm speechless

This was an amazing episode. This episode really conveys the overall theme of the entire series and the way the episode was presented is amazing.

I'm really going to look forward to Clannad After Story.

SkoolRumble4Ya

2008-10-03, 17:01

Damn what a great way to start the return of Clannad. I was cracking up most of the time especially when Yoshino did his speech and said timeout and continue on.

Anybody know when the opening is out? It's probably been ask alot but if you know the answer please tell me. I want that song.

AquaticIdealist

2008-10-03, 17:10

Anybody know when the opening is out? It's probably been ask alot but if you know the answer please tell me. I want that song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aa5zOVAwc

There's also a Veoh version, apparently, in the Music Discussion thread.

SkoolRumble4Ya

2008-10-03, 17:16

What i meant is the full version release date.

Forever

2008-10-03, 17:30

Yeah Clannad is back! How I miss Kotomi! Those are the most adorable calculations I ever heard!!!!

IRJustman

2008-10-03, 18:15

What i meant is the full version release date.

If the release schedule for singles this time around will be anything like last year's, I'm guessing the week before or of the BS-i telecast of ep 1.

In any event, here's to hoping. ;)

--Ian.

SkoolRumble4Ya

2008-10-03, 18:19

I hope your right because that song is in my head now I'm gonna go record the tv size version.

Curulan

2008-10-03, 19:00

A good start to the series. I miss my dango song. :(

OceanBlue

2008-10-03, 19:33

"This is... a gift from me!"
Yoshino Final Smash!

I loved the episode, especially the OP. I wish Sunohara had at least one redeeming moment though.

Edit: I just realized the contrast between this episode's "Win it for this town." and the first season's episode's opening scene. Even a small thing like that is an interesting change, done intentionally or not, in Tomoya's character.

Anime Daisuki

2008-10-03, 19:45

10/10 for me. Highlights of the episode:

Yuusuke was simply hilarious with both his speeches, especially how he called time out the second time around.

"He wants to do something perverted to you" - Tomoya followed by Tomoyo's trademark kick

Tomoya's story about Sunohara looking up to Yuusuke and everyone there believing it.

Akio referring to Sanae's bread

Kotomi's calculations

Akio's reaction after breaking a window right before the opening theme

And I found it sweet how they ended it with everyone eating dinner together, celebrating the victory then having the sound of the glass sync with Tomoya hitting the baseball.

This episode was nostalgic more than anything. The way Tomoya makes up his stories, Tomoyo's kick, Kotomi's genius, Garkio, it simple had that "Clannad" feel to it.

rainnydaiis

2008-10-03, 20:44

I hope your right because that song is in my head now I'm gonna go record the tv size version.

I understand what you mean in a way, I've bookmarked the OP of clannad and been replaying it over and over because the ost isn't out yet and the actual episode is probably the only place i can hear it atm.

Anime Daisuki

2008-10-03, 20:45

I love the new OP as well, but I preferred dango daikazoku over our current ending theme.

King Lycan

2008-10-03, 20:57

YAY!! Clannad was awesome .. I really did miss it and i got to see some Sunohara silliness :D /
Also Yuu-Kun was hilarious with his memory speeches :heh:
10/10

DragoonKain3

2008-10-03, 21:38

Sunohara > all. 'nuff said.

haiz123321

2008-10-03, 21:48

Not bad actually, pretty much like this season as well, hopefully there will be at least some kisses in this season :X.

Tomoyo 1 second kicking Sunohara when Okazaki said he wanted to do something perverted was hilarious. Yoshino giving the speech was also hillarious but he only suceeded the second time since he got an out before finishing the first time :heh: Kotomi's calculation of the ball etc. was something i DID NOT expect though I think she spent too much time calculating? :p Of course we still can see Okazaki's usual "pranks" which I'll never get tired of

The new OP is pretty good i guess since we can see all the main heroines with the summer uniform. Overall I think the first episode is pretty great since it's more like a get together with every character in the anime

C.A.

2008-10-03, 22:24

After hearing alot of evil and sadism from Midorikawa in SRWZ, hearing him in grand awesomeness again is great lol

He owned this episode for me.

Nagisa has been my favourite character since her very first appearance, I'll love this season alot.

10/10 for major service this episode provides.

way2slow

2008-10-03, 22:35

I have a question for Ep1, seeing I have no Japanese background, but @ 6:18: "Like an anchor at concerts", should it not be 'encore'... or am I off? That was the notable difference between AQS Sprocket and Eclipse.

C.A.

2008-10-03, 22:39

Spelling error or just straight translation error from the sub you're watching.

Its encore and AQS Sprocket got it correct.

nines

2008-10-03, 22:52

The epic storyline loved by so many people has come back....I love this anime but OMFG the cheesyness in this first episode grahhh To much happyness and weird ass speaches over such weird things x.x

eMpTy265

2008-10-03, 23:12

It's been a while since an anime episode caused me to get muscle cramps from laughing, but this baseball arc sure did it for me.

Kyoani sure knows how to make us fall in love with the characters...

I'm pretty sure most of the things that I noticed have been discussed, so I'll just say 1 short thing:

TomoyORZ... :heh:

P.S. Where did Yoshino's "Am I smiling now?" line come from? Was it from just Kanon (Shiori's route?)? Or were there other series that had that line also?

Ascaloth

2008-10-04, 00:40

Apologies for the later-than-usual publish, but I had a date with a girl last night, and couldn't finish it up in time. >_>

[RIUVA] CLANNAD ~After Story~, Episode 1 (http://www.riuva.com/?p=1257)

Nice episode to ease us back into the story. 8/10

Nukerjsr

2008-10-04, 00:45

A really good comeback for the series, they lead us in with the ever awesome Akio baseball plan, and by doing so we are reminded why we love all these characters. There is seriously not one scene in this episode that didn't feel awkward or annoying or anything, it was just absolutely superb.

blitz1/2

2008-10-04, 00:46

note: Kotomi is another Nagato/cyborg

zzeroparticle

2008-10-04, 01:18

That was an excellent way to start things off by getting the entire gang together. Watching the events on screen just felt like a reunion of sorts and it was great just letting the characters' personalities bounce off of each other. Execution of the comedy was also good and there weren't any slow moments at all as this episode grabs you from the get-go. No complaints from my end!

Sorrow-K

2008-10-04, 01:41

It was essentially a filler episode, but an entertaining one. Certainly Yoshino Yuusuke stole the show for me, with his backhanded melodramatic lamp-shading, the type of which is almost a trademark of Ishihara's sense of humour.

The motley baseball team gave me big Suzumiya Haruhi vibes. Most of it was pretty facetious, but there were little glimpses of things under the surface that play into Clannad's main set of themes. Mirrinus has already pointed most of them out more eloquently than I care to try.

Edit: I completely forgot about this, but I found it interesting that Misae, Ibuki-sensei and Yuusuke share some sort of past. I haven't played very far into the game (I'm certainly no where near After Story), but from that scene, I started to speculate that maybe there are some parallels in their past that resembles some of the stuff going on with the characters of Tomoya's generation. Maybe there are parallels between the way the relationships panned out between Misae, Ibuki-sensei and Yuusuke and, I don't know, I'm speculating here, possibly Tomoyo, Nagisa and Tomoya. I don't want to know if I'm close or not, it just strikes me as a plausible possibility... and an interesting pattern in the story if it is.

Mr Hat and Clogs

2008-10-04, 02:01

Hah, I loved this episode, it was great, light and funny. But still had a few hints about the core of the show.

Yoshino and his speeches were hilarious, and Kotomi made me giggle with her calculations. Poor Tomoyo, trying to be a 'regular' girl and just gives up in the end and belts the ball. So will these characters who didn't have much screen time in S1 be getting more in S2 I wonder? :o

Utau

2008-10-04, 03:42

Eh?

I "think" I saw her in the OP, hugging a "character that didn't get its proper appearance yet":heh:

i meant as a nomral cast, like the ones where she pops up every now and then to unintentionally disturb a 'locked-in-a-gym' kinda scenario :heh:

zSolaris

2008-10-04, 05:42

I had high expectations for this series (since I simply loved the first one way too much) and I am in a bit of disbelief as to how well this first Episode shattered all of them. I thought it was really as to how Akio, Sanae, Misae, and Yuuske all got a good deal of screen time (Akio especially, coolest guy in that series, IMO). Overall, I just liked it (regardless as to how cheesy it was).

Also, poor, poor Sunohara.

ayu

2008-10-04, 06:53

The epic storyline loved by so many people has come back....I love this anime but OMFG the cheesyness in this first episode grahhh To much happyness and weird ass speaches over such weird things x.x

I agree, there were too many lines that popped out of no where that made the episode seem rather weird.

Mecha_Trueno

2008-10-04, 09:07

I also noticed that there is an error in the ED. Kyou and Ryou are shown to both be wearing thigh-high socks, but Ryou does not usually wear them to that height. She usually only wears them to ankle-height IIRC.lol, is this a hint that ryou's on her way to becoming tsundere later in the series:heh:

Kinny Riddle

2008-10-04, 09:19

Rewatching the episode, noticed in the victory dinner, Mei whispered something into Nagisa's ear. That would most likely lead into something concerning Sunohara, as can be seen in the preview. This would thread the story nicely into the "Sunoharas Route" side story.

Deathkillz

2008-10-04, 09:31

Edit: I completely forgot about this, but I found it interesting that Misae, Ibuki-sensei and Yuusuke share some sort of past. I haven't played very far into the game (I'm certainly no where near After Story), but from that scene, I started to speculate that maybe there are some parallels in their past that resembles some of the stuff going on with the characters of Tomoya's generation. Maybe there are parallels between the way the relationships panned out between Misae, Ibuki-sensei and Yuusuke and, I don't know, I'm speculating here, possibly Tomoyo, Nagisa and Tomoya. I don't want to know if I'm close or not, it just strikes me as a plausible possibility... and an interesting pattern in the story if it is.
I was just going to mention this :heh:

It was quite a nice starting episode...I had a few chuckles out of some of the scenes. Though rather than Haruhi, this whole baseball ep reminded me of Little Busters :rolleyes:

Tomoyo doing the orz made my day too ^^

Ottocycle

2008-10-04, 09:32

Looking at what earlier posters had drawn about the contrast in Tomoya's disposition between the first episode of the first story and AS, I just realised that the producers had used the same music during the corresponding scenes as well. Really nice touch there, IMHO, especially since the name of the track is named 町、時の流れ、人, which I think translates to The Town, the Passage of Time, and the People (maybe it might not be plural in this context though).

1. Misae: Don't call a *Car Horn*-year-old lady with a -chan attached to her name!
2. Yuusuke: Thanks for the encore!
Mods: I figured that the above would be fine since nothing has been spoiled about the actual episode and the lines won't appear ever again, but if they aren't, do what you have to.

bladeofdarkness

2008-10-04, 09:43

was i the only one who was thinking of nayuki when sanae was doing that "fighto desu yo":heh:

phishn37

2008-10-04, 09:54

I say 8/10 because it was a fun, lighthearted first episode, very funny and enjoyable. But there doesn't seem to be any kind of plot or arc yet, and from the looks of the next ep, there won't be one their either.

Shinigami_Mello

2008-10-04, 10:46

It was a fun episode, but I'll agree it had it's bit of cheese.
Yuusuke was funny, and even though I've played this in the game, it still managed to make me laugh. (And I rewatched that a few times too)

But I wouldnt let it shatter your expectations XD This IS just a get to knowing everyone episode again.

So I gave it an 8/10. Good, but not the best. The best is to come.

And is that the Siblings arc I see. (would this be a spoiler? D:) It was one of my all time favorites <3

matteas

2008-10-04, 10:51

That was a good opening episode, imo. I admire the creators how they can make such a thing like baseball into a sad touching moment.
The scene I like the best of ep1 was the "Kotomi, scientists in action". Tomoyo Kick was great too though.
But I hope the main plot will start in 3 episodes, at most.

Kaisos Erranon

2008-10-04, 10:59

But I hope the main plot will start in 3 episodes, at most.

Don't count on it.

BigGimp77

2008-10-04, 11:04

I'm so glad Clannad is back:)

Xvoki

2008-10-04, 11:04

9/10 Not perfect, but looks promising. I liked it.

SaintessHeart

2008-10-04, 11:28

Tomoyo is still as cute as ever.:D (excellent 1x good one on Youhei in the first ep lol).

Narzia

2008-10-04, 11:30

Yusuke sure was funny. Would've been perfect though if he opened his shirt Hosaka-style.

Fynal_Fyre

2008-10-04, 12:04

Been waiting ever since the Tomoyo After OVA, and it didn't disappoint, save for the fact I'd have liked a more upbeat ED.

Impressions here (http://finality.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/clannad-after-story-episode-1-real-women-playbaseball/), for what it's worth.

Next episode:

Sunohara's love life? Boy, I didn't see that coming

typhonsentra

2008-10-04, 12:17

I wasn't a huge fan, it felt very "Filler"-y although it was probably because they felt like they had to come up with an excuse to give all the secondary girls some airtime this season.

Shinigami_Mello

2008-10-04, 12:18

That, and probably to re-introduce characters like Yuusuke and Kouko. (And Misae)
Because I do see them getting more screentime this season for sure.

typhonsentra

2008-10-04, 12:20

That, and probably to re-introduce characters like Yuusuke and Kouko. (And Misae)
Because I do see them getting more screentime this season for sure.

Don't forget the cat. I don't even think they showed her cat last season, did they?

Farplaner

2008-10-04, 12:23

Don't forget the cat. I don't even think they showed her cat last season, did they?

They did many times... although the cat was never as much of a focus as Botan.

AngryDango

2008-10-04, 12:26

I love the new opening. This first episode was funny, i'm really wondering what will happen to Sunohara next episode.

Klashikari

2008-10-04, 12:27

Each time Misae is onscreen, the cat was most of the time present.
Also, it was shown many times that Tomoya is playing with him when he is talking with Youhei in his room so...

Shinigami_Mello

2008-10-04, 12:33

Yep, and the cat ;D
He's been there since the very first episode and in many scences.

And the opeing, I'm probably seen it over 20 times the last two days. It's just too beautiful <3 I feel like tearing up everytime I watch it.

octoberasian

2008-10-04, 12:41

Rewatched the episode again and I cannot get over how well animated this series is compared to other animes I've seen last season. There is so much detail and nuances in each scene like folds of the clothing and how the hair flows and moves. The lighting and shadow and facial expressions were just as impressive.

It's why I love the opening animation so far. The way the camera would pan out of the van with Tomoya or the camera zooming into Kyou on the moped.

I love it. I can't wait for the OP single to come out. I had to rip the audio out of the episode into an MP3 so I can play it in iTunes. XD

For me, Tomoyo was my favorite in this episode with Nagisa coming in second.

Favorite quote from Tomoyo <3
"Sorry. I made us lose the ball."

Oh, let's not forget Kyou dancing on first base after her first hit.

Daniel E.

2008-10-04, 13:12

Haven't gone through the whole thread so this has most likely been mentioned before but....

It stroke me as curious how much they drill the point about the game being important to the town yet, when the game begins, you can't see a soul (outside the obvious ones) actually watching or caring about the actual game.

A bit of a crowd wouldn't have hurted there KyoAni. :p

Kaisos Erranon

2008-10-04, 13:14

Ascaloth

2008-10-04, 13:14

Proto

2008-10-04, 13:15

It was mostly a metaphor though. It wasn't much as if it was the very lives and souls of the townsfolk being at stake, but at that moment the "town" was represented by the people who believed in what Tomoya could do, aka his teammates.

edit: Pttfff... beated by he who was beated himself. Aw well, at least its a different take on it :p

Daniel E.

2008-10-04, 13:19

GARkio considered it important to the town... it actually isn't.

And, of course, by "the town" he really means "his pride".

You are taking as credible the words that are coming out of Akio's mouth. :p

EDIT: Beat to it by Kaisos, meh.

Well, this actually makes a lot of sense. :p

Still, I would prefer to think that there was at least a bit of truth in Akio's words. If only to cut him a bit of slack. :p

EDIT:

It was mostly a metaphor though. It wasn't much as if it was the very lives and souls of the townsfolk being at stake, but at that moment the "town" was represented by the people who believed in what Tomoya could do, aka his teammates.

edit: Pttfff... beated by he who was beated himself. Aw well, at least its a different take on it

Your reply wasn't there when making this post. Sorry. :meh:

SaintessHeart

2008-10-04, 13:23

Well I have a feeling that the girl in which Youhei's friends find for him is Tomoyo.:D

typhonsentra

2008-10-04, 13:55

Each time Misae is onscreen, the cat was most of the time present.
Also, it was shown many times that Tomoya is playing with him when he is talking with Youhei in his room so...

I just went back and looked at the first episode (I didn't know to about the cat being important until after I finished watching the show) and I'll be damned, it is there! And looking back yeah he did play with a cat in his room (His sister too I think) but I never thought it was hers.

ThoHell

2008-10-04, 14:02

Good god, Clannad has one master piece episode after another. All I can say is good episode.... F IT, EVERY EPISODE IS FAR TOO GOOD TO BE DESCRIBED WITH GOOD!

Is it just me or do they seem to hint at something between Tomoyo and Tomoya that's more than meets the eye, or something of the future? The batting scene and Nagisa looking at them from a distance seemed to be trying to say something....

skeezer

2008-10-04, 15:34

I loved it, can't wait till next weeks episode.

I don't want to get sad, but I can tell this season will make me.

PNGO

2008-10-04, 16:10

I don't get why this series is getting all this hype. Gotta hate overrated series :/
BTW this episode is just "good". Not saying it's crap, i'm just saying that the series is getting way to overhyped.

velvet

2008-10-04, 16:32

I wasn't a huge fan, it felt very "Filler"-y although it was probably because they felt like they had to come up with an excuse to give all the secondary girls some airtime this season.

a part of me agreed with you. Since that part of me also wanted to just start ~after story~ with... well, ~after story~.

Mecha_Trueno

2008-10-04, 16:34

1. Misae: Don't call a *Car Horn*-year-old lady with a -chan attached to her name!
2. Yuusuke: Thanks for the encore!does this mean we dont actually know her age?

Shinigami_Mello

2008-10-04, 16:40

Nope. It's always somehow bleeped out in the game XD
Everytime she mentions it, there's something interfering. A pity!

Faust87

2008-10-04, 16:43

This episode is a good start for Clannad ^^ And I like the new opening (i can see Fuko there *__*)

typhonsentra

2008-10-04, 17:29

I hope we get some of the random Fuko encounters like we did last season.

kyouray

2008-10-04, 17:29

Yeah first episode ! Kyou is back :love:
Good episode but I hope that the main plot is beginning next episode.

Ashlotte

2008-10-04, 18:28

Nice to have the show back airing again...Wonderful characters and great humor as always. ;)

Reckoner

2008-10-04, 18:31

I hope we get some of the random Fuko encounters like we did last season.

Oh, god please no. This show is several points better without her.

Anyway, this was a good start to the season, I rate the first episode 8.4 and round down to an 8 for the poll. Hoping the rest of the season is good and will be continuing.

destiny4everlove

2008-10-04, 18:57

I watched the episode again, because I wanted to watch it with the subs from Eclipse.

-I loved the op song before, but after reading the subs from Eclipse…I absolutely totally love the op song!! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi9b.gif The lyrics are so perfect for the After Story.

- “You’re a super prodigy and super athletic and super-slim so super-safe at night, too.” LOL!! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi6l.gif Tomoya’s sense of humor is epic win!!! :D

-So Yoshino’s weak point is making memories. :D

-I’m embarrassed to ask this, I guess I’m just like Nagisa-chanhttp://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi35.gif, but what is a s-quiz squeeze?http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi34-1.gif

-I like the new ending but I miss the dangos. :upset:

I watched the episode again and I enjoyed it even more than the first time I watched. I can’t wait to watch the next episode!! :)

Un1234l

2008-10-04, 18:59

Klashikari

2008-10-04, 19:00

@ destiny4everlove:

*shameless copy paste that I posted on Riuva*

A squeeze is a baseball maneuver that makes use of a sacrificial bunt so that the runner on the third base can score.

When it is Nagisa’s turn, Kyou was on the third base, hence Akio “suggests” Nagisa to do a simple bunt that won’t do anything good (though even a normal swing would be no good as demonstrated XD) but that might give the opportunity for Kyou to score.

When Tomoya is doing his bunt for Mei, that is not a squeeze, but rather a "sacrificial bunt", as Mei is on the first base, not the third one. It is "kinda" the same, but the squeeze term is far more specific.

In the last Inning, Akio “forbids” Tomoya to do a squeeze as since it is the last inning with 2 outs, it would be way too obvious for the opposing team that the furukawa bakers will attempt a squeeze (especially that Tomoya has been probably framed as a poor batter). Attempting a squeeze in such situation would be a suicide, especially that the runner on the third base is Nagisa, so she would be caught with ease.

Xvoki

2008-10-04, 19:12

I watched the episode again and I enjoyed it even more than the first time I watched. I can’t wait to watch the next episode!! :)

It does seem better on the second watch, strange that. XD

destiny4everlove

2008-10-04, 19:28

Xvoki

2008-10-04, 20:01

I’m a huge Clannad fan so everytime I watch an episode again, it always gets better!http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc50/hellokitty_hon/Hello%20Kitty/happy.gif I don’t know if I can say/write this here, but I also enjoyed more because my favorite subs are from Eclipse. :)

I haven’t seen their version yet. I’ll download it when I get the time. I heard it’s good quality. ^_^

blitz1/2

2008-10-04, 20:06

I think the last BGM was the best! matched perfectly for the scene.

GreatTeacherKen

2008-10-04, 20:25

It was great seeing the gang back in action. Plus, it's nice seeing Yoshino get more exposure since he didn't get to do much in the 1st season.

anime ronin

2008-10-04, 20:43

very good 1st ep. i actually laughed a couple times in this ep, though i kinda expected a thesis to help give some clue of what's in store for this season.

Ashlotte

2008-10-04, 20:50

WOW I LOVE THIS EPISODE.

At first, I was kind of surprised that it was not in widescreen. But I guess there's nothing surprising about that.

Reason why I love this episode:
It starts off CLANNAD really strongly: with action, comedy, story, character development, and a hint of a more serious side. The directing was phenomenal. The artwork was inconsistent at times, however. Music was VERY fitting. The MAIN reason why I love this episode though: it made me laugh literally every minute. When watching it, I laughed, paused, and rewound it. Maybe I repeated it a couple of times. I was never this entertained watching something ever. Maybe a few movies and shows were close, but this is definitely my favourite.

Can I expect a widescreen release in 2 weeks? As they have done with the first season?

Yea I'm still sad about that from the first season and still none too happy about it now...If its a kinda medium-low budget show like To-Luv-Ru I don't mind too much seeing it squeezed down, but its almost a crime to see it happen to a show like this twice...

Guess I'll be doing my second viewings when WS pops up again like first season. :p

Sorrow-K

2008-10-04, 20:51

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9094/snapshot20081005113539in8.th.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20081005113539in8.jpg)http://img56.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

I find certain aspects of this screenshot to be very... err... interesting.

What is Kyou and Kotomi's relationship? I mean, they're friends obviously, but are they particularly close friends now? For some reason I just think it'd be nice if they were.

In part because they're both good people who deserve to have good friends, but also in part because it's such a long way from where they were when they first met. Kyou pretty much outright rejected her when she was initially getting Tomoya to help her find friends, and even after a change of mind, she didn't really take Kotomi all too seriously.

If you squint and look at them from a certain direction, they, and they're entire relationship, somewhat reminds me a little of Hinagiku and Hamster from Hayate no Gotoku.

phishn37

2008-10-04, 21:06

^ Yeah, I couldn't help but feel confused by Kyou and Kotomi being really friendly to eachother. Other than through Tomoya, they don't really know eachother at all...

nikorai

2008-10-04, 21:06

So, my tough schedule continues to get on me. I'm late at the forums again. Desperately tried to look through 10 pages of messages. It was a bit hard to read because half of them are cut short by our dear, honorable and highly respected mods (aka dedicated followers of fashion).
Watched the episode raw, probably will need to watch it again as i missed about a half of what was said.
So, looks like it was a light comedy. I thought they'd start at the funerals or something.
Poor pops - he surely got a heavy injury.
Also, as much as I tried to understand baseball rules I miserably fail at that. I even tried to read wikipedia on the matter. I know that if the batter can't hit the ball, the strike means an instant win. If he/she does hit the ball then they start to run around actively trying to catch the ball and then get to the bases. Something like that. But the scoring rules are beyond my comprehension. Sorry.
What is good is that Kyou's back. She makes my day.
Meanwhile:
Tomoyа to Tomoyo (at around 5 min)
春原がお前にエッチなことをしたいそうだ。

Ottocycle

2008-10-04, 21:54

does this mean we dont actually know her age?
The whole cast knows after she said it herself, but everytime they mention it a soundbite happens. So yeah, the viewer/player will not know.

Ascaloth

2008-10-04, 22:45

Bennyswan

2008-10-04, 23:28

Funny first episode, pretty good OP :D cannot wait for the next episode!

Sorrow-K

2008-10-04, 23:39

@Sorrow,

Well if you remember from the first season, not a short while after Kyou first met Kotomi, the former was the one who took the initiative to build up a really close relationship with her....:D
Are you talking about this?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2291/kyouxkotomiedithotlesbigf9.jpg

Yeah, I think even at this point, Kyou didn't really take her all that seriously and saw her more as a love rival for Ryou (and obviously herself).

Ascaloth

2008-10-04, 23:42

Are you talking about this?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2291/kyouxkotomiedithotlesbigf9.jpg

Yeah, I think even at this point, Kyou didn't really take her all that seriously and saw her more as a love rival for Ryou (and obviously herself).

Eh. I was just making a gag. :heh:

Sorrow-K

2008-10-04, 23:44

Eh. I was just making a gag. :heh:
And I was just looking for an excuse to repost that picture. ;)

Ascaloth

2008-10-04, 23:59

And I was just looking for an excuse to repost that picture. ;)

Point taken. :heh:

Eczema

2008-10-05, 01:14

That's a good point, I never felt that Kyou got really friendly with any other girl apart from her sister. I also got the impression that Kotomi would be too out of it to dance around and celebrate like that.

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 01:59

I wonder if I'm not the only one who thinks Kotomi is just walking pair of tits.

I'd LIKE to hate on this show right now because I still think Nagisa should be hung over a pit of boiling acid from those cockroach antennae, but there's a part of me that has a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit of respect for there actually being an honest to god established couple right from the get go.

Very tiny bit. Still I fully them expect to go about in NOT developing the relationship and end up running things into the ground in a mediocre fashion. Already in the first episode we're given a possible show of jealousy coming from Nagisa, but nothing to follow up on it with.

I'll keep watching, but god I fucking hate Nagisa so damn much.

arkxkra

2008-10-05, 03:49

very good starting episode.
I lol at the game when Kotomi analysis the information and Yoshino-san playing, especially Yoshino after hitting the ball.

Love the bgm that appear before the ending song.

Bathory Area

2008-10-05, 04:08

This screen makes me can not stop laughing.Kotomi is A.I,Cyborg or

something????:heh: I love Nakamura Yuichi(he plays as Tomoya)

He voices a lot of Blue-haired characters.

He is Graham in Gundam 00,too

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3096/vlcsnap2152784qw2.th.png (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap2152784qw2.png)http://img219.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

velvet

2008-10-05, 04:17

Oh, god please no. This show is several points better without her.

Aaaaactually, this show will get several points more (at least from me) soon enough when fuuko actually interacts with "characters that didn't get its proper appearance yet" :heh:

On topic, I kinda love Kyou's line "Let Nagisa run home", of course it has its meaning in baseball, but I like letting my mind interpreted it on its own :heh:

alex253320

2008-10-05, 06:34

Farplaner

2008-10-05, 07:28

Still I fully them expect to go about in NOT developing the relationship and end up running things into the ground in a mediocre fashion. Already in the first episode we're given a possible show of jealousy coming from Nagisa, but nothing to follow up on it with.

Eh, I think you have mistaken this as another generic harem romantic story...

rave_master16

2008-10-05, 07:41

Zenemis

2008-10-05, 09:02

After Story is very much about Nagisa and Tomoya, but they're always a great group of close friends.

swtrooper42

2008-10-05, 09:10

something????:heh: I love Nakamura Yuichi(he plays as Tomoya)

He voices a lot of Blue-haired characters.
I always debate with myself over whether Tomoya has blue or black hair. I'm pretty sure it's black but then sometimes it looks blueish.

Zenemis

2008-10-05, 09:23

translation request

could some please write in Romaji, Yoshino's speech (if you want to call it that) just after he bats for the second time? also including the "this is a gift from me"
I think it is absolutely awesome

thanks

Kore ga, ore kara no okurimono da.

Kodomotachi.

Kore ga ima no ore ni -Time Out-

Kore ga ima no ore ni dekiru okurimono da.

Omoide to iu na no katachi wa nai okurimono da.

Ore ni wa okane mo nai.

Katachi ga aru mono nante kairete inai.

Soredemo, katachi wa nakutte mo, omoide wa itsu made mo nokori tsuzukeru.

Ore wa, sou shinjite iru.

kimchipride

2008-10-05, 11:06

I always debate with myself over whether Tomoya has blue or black hair. I'm pretty sure it's black but then sometimes it looks blueish.

Tomoya's hair is blue... How do you see his hair as black? :confused:

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 11:06

@ Farplaner:

Eh, I think you have mistaken this as another generic harem romantic story...

This is a harem romantic story guy. There were 3 girls after him in the first season, and from the looks of it there's a good 5 or 6 at his beck and call. I will admit the series not being entirely generic though.

@ rave master16:

Then you better not watch it because this is Nagisa's after story...

Well a few friends of mine have told me that After Story will actually end up making me like Nagisa, and seeing how I think it would take a miracle of miracles to do that, I'm just going to keep watching to see if they're right, or if I can throw it back in their face.

;p

ayukanon45

2008-10-05, 11:26

Oh my god, what a beautiful opening. I love how the first episode is like a welcome back to CLANNAD. oh my god, just beautiful.

Klashikari

2008-10-05, 11:30

This is a harem romantic story guy. There were 3 girls after him in the first season, and from the looks of it there's a good 5 or 6 at his beck and call. I will admit the series not being entirely generic though.
Please do not make such statements without properly understanding what the term means.
A harem genre would be a story with the male character being able to hook any of the female character and likewise, the main "vector" for the romance would be "who the guy will end with". While the first season "could" be considered as Harem sorta, ever since episode 18, it sealed its genre completely away from this category.

After Story will not delve about romance and back and forth at all, you are actually missing completely the point. Likewise, please understand this is not a harem romance story at all, especially from this point.

Well a few friends of mine have told me that After Story will actually end up making me like Nagisa, and seeing how I think it would take a miracle of miracles to do that, I'm just going to keep watching to see if they're right, or if I can throw it back in their face.I think it would be extremely ridiculous to expect such things especially if you use such staunch and stubborn/hate stance without much "anti bias" appreciation. You are free to dislike a character and what not, but considering how you are taking things thus far and yourself claiming "require a miracle", I assume it is time to stop beating the dead horse already.

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 12:21

@ Klash:

Please do not make such statements without properly understanding what the term means.
A harem genre would be a story with the male character being able to hook any of the female character and likewise, the main "vector" for the romance would be "who the guy will end with". While the first season "could" be considered as Harem sorta, ever since episode 18, it sealed its genre completely away from this category.

After Story will not delve about romance and back and forth at all, you are actually missing completely the point. Likewise, please understand this is not a harem romance story at all, especially from this point.

Yeah you're right, After Story isn't a harem romance (I hate having to even put those two words next to each other), I'll acknowledge that.

And the first season was definitely harem, you can't deny that, even when all knew very well he was going to end up with cockroach.

I think it would be extremely ridiculous to expect such things especially if you use such staunch and stubborn/hate stance without much "anti bias" appreciation. You are free to dislike a character and what not, but considering how you are taking things thus far and yourself claiming "require a miracle", I assume it is time to stop beating the dead horse already.

It's not called a miracle for nothing guy.

And you leave my dead horse out of this.

monir

2008-10-05, 12:34

It's not called a miracle for nothing guy.

And you leave my dead horse out of this.
I think the fans should leave you alone for now since you already seem so determined to not to give this series a chance. Assumption is all well and good if it can be based on proper reasoning. Comparing season 1 with season 2 is way too early. I think your outburst will be more fitting if you wait at least 10 episodes and then say, the show is "harem."

I wasn't happy with season one as well. The entire series didn't need a whole 24 episodes to move on to the next stage of things. Nagisa still remains pretty undeveloped character. Her passive role also doesn't add much to her character. Her character is pretty boring, in fact. That said, season 1 established the show will revolve around Nagisa and Tomoya. What would be a "miracle" is that if you happen to be right, that this is another harem anime in disguise. And if you do happen to be right, I'll be with you bashing the show for all its worth.

Until then, stay in the observation mode! I'm sure you can already see how people here are taking to you. Those kind of conversation can be pretty disruptive and can lead to poor behavior. For me, I'll try to enjoy it.

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 12:37

I think the fans should leave you alone for now since you already seem so determined to not to give this series a chance. Assumption is all well and good if it can be based on proper reasoning. Comparing season 1 with season 2 is way too early. I think your outburst will be more fitting if you wait at least 10 episodes and then say, the show is "harem."

I wasn't happy with season one as well. The entire series didn't need a whole 24 episodes to move on to the next stage of things. Nagisa still remains pretty undeveloped character. Her passive role also doesn't add much to her character. Her character is pretty boring, in fact. That said, season 1 established the show will revolve around Nagisa and Tomoya. What would be a "miracle" is that if you happen to be right, that this is another harem in disguise.

See, now you can I talk to, I just choose to be much more angry and vocal about it :p.

I agree Nagia was extremely boring and underdeveloped, which is exactly why I hate her. She always felt more like the main character's cheerleader then an actual love interest.

So yeah, let's see how season 2 pans out, just remember that if it happens, I called it.

:3

Aizu

2008-10-05, 12:40

Actually, talking about harems - new definition is really different from the old one. Now when we are talking about harem we mean something like Kanokon, Shuffle and so on. Clannad isn't really a harem, it has only a classical harem base with "one guy and a lot of girls", but is different in plot and idea.

Kaisos Erranon

2008-10-05, 12:42

I love it when people make definitive statements without actually knowing what they're talking about.

Ascaloth

2008-10-05, 12:43

I love it when people make definitive statements without actually knowing what they're talking about.

Let's not go there, Kaisos. We've already been through this once during the last season, and it didn't do anything useful....>_>

Let other people think it is whatever they think it is, and just watch this on our own terms. <_<

Aizu

2008-10-05, 12:44

Hmm... funny here, but this definition is coming from ero-games. Search roots there.

Proto

2008-10-05, 12:46

I wasn't happy with season one as well. The entire series didn't need a whole 24 episodes to move on to the next stage of things. Nagisa still remains pretty undeveloped character. Her passive role also doesn't add much to her character. Her character is pretty boring, in fact

If your qualm isn't that she hasn't got her backstory, full of sobs, tragedy and wintery backgrounds then you are pretty cruel. :p Aw well, just take into account that while characters like Kotomi, Tomoyo, and other people who got their arcs solved last season and as such their characters are pretty much close to completion, for people like Nagisa and Tomoya himself season 1 was more like a prologue, introduction and chapter 1-2 to their story.

rave_master16

2008-10-05, 12:46

See, now you can I talk to, I just choose to be much more angry and vocal about it :p.

I agree Nagia was extremely boring and underdeveloped, which is exactly why I hate her. She always felt more like the main character's cheerleader then an actual love interest.

So yeah, let's see how season 2 pans out, just remember that if it happens, I called it.

:3

seeing how you hate just because she's boring isn't quite an excuse...:heh::p
Well let's see if you can still make bashful statements after the season...
And what's up with being angry with the series just started...??? Why do you hate?:heh::confused:

Aizu

2008-10-05, 12:51

And what's the problem here ? You don't like it ? Then watch something else.

Btw, some phrases were funny. If you think that "Kotomi is just walking pair of tits" - then watch Ikkitousen Great Guardians, for example.

Evayo

2008-10-05, 13:08

This season is relevant to my interests.

Man, this episode was the best 24+ minutes of win I've seen in a long time, or at least in the past few days. I just adore this series and I know I'm gonna love After Story so much more. Plus, the animation was way beyond the first season in my opinion. This looks very promising.

On top of that, getting to see more of Tomoyo and Kyou is alright in my book.:D

~:Evayo:~

Proto

2008-10-05, 13:13

By the way, I hadn't noticed that in the OP Animation during the cast presentation Nagisa, Kyou, Kotomi and Tomoyo are represented by Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter like shots.

KholdStare

2008-10-05, 13:14

The first episode is just amazing. I can't imagine how a baseball game could be so exciting and interesting, but it shows the true side of Clannad - the comedic, carefree interactions of the characters without much drama or romance. I love this series already.

8/10

Evayo

2008-10-05, 13:16

Huh, that is interesting about the OP. They're also swapped out their winter uniforms for summer (Though I guess that one was a bit obvious:confused:).

The animation and effects on the cast presentation is so beautiful, especially Nagisa in the field. This season is gonna be awesome.

~:Evayo:~

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 13:44

@ Proto:

If your qualm isn't that she hasn't got her backstory, full of sobs, tragedy and wintery backgrounds then you are pretty cruel.

Guilty as charged.

That whole deal with the last few episodes of Clannad felt extremely forced and out of place, it just didn't work for me at all.

Aw well, just take into account that while characters like Kotomi, Tomoyo, and other people who got their arcs solved last season and as such their characters are pretty much close to completion, for people like Nagisa and Tomoya himself season 1 was more like a prologue, introduction and chapter 1-2 to their story.

As of right now I'm more interested in Tomoya's story then Nagisa, I just hope they balance it well and don't shaft one or the other the same way they did for Tomoyo in the first season (HI MY ARC IS 8 MINUTES LONG).

@ Littm:

Btw, some phrases were funny. If you think that "Kotomi is just walking pair of tits" - then watch Ikkitousen Great Guardians, for example.

I know better then to watch Ikkitousen in any form, but realistically speaking Kotomi's BOOBLES are so big the damn suspenders on her school uniform get pushed to the side. Hell, the same goes for Tomoyo too.

:V

rave_master16

2008-10-05, 14:06

@ Proto:

As of right now I'm more interested in Tomoya's story then Nagisa, I just hope they balance it well and don't shaft one or the other the same way they did for Tomoyo in the first season (HI MY ARC IS 8 MINUTES LONG).

:V

Didn't they make a special episode for Tomoyo with at least 20 minutes in it??
And besides if you're interested in Tomoya story then you better appreciate Nagisa more because she's a huge part of it..

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 14:29

I was not addressing the special episode, I was addressing the first season.

My opinion on ep 24 is that it was better then the entire first season of Clannad anyway.

:3

rave_master16

2008-10-05, 14:38

I was not addressing the special episode, I was addressing the first season.

My opinion on ep 24 is that it was better then the entire first season of Clannad anyway.

:3

Is that so? Hmmm? Well everybody has preferences but to think it beats all the Kotomi and Fuuko arcs? And all the funny jokes...
Well hope a good luck to you my friend though hope you won't hate this anime after the season ends like you are doing right now..Well if you don't get anything from it it's your loss anyway... hehe:heh::heh:

Anime Daisuki

2008-10-05, 16:05

Some people can't see outside of they're favorite pairing =/ I would've preferred Tomoyo or Kyou over Nagisa but that doesn't stop me from appreciating everything else about Clannad. Episode 24 was hardly better then the entire first season. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion so, whatever floats your boat.

bladeofdarkness

2008-10-05, 16:26

personally i really dont think there is a bad choice to be had there
kyou is epic, easily the sexiest of the bunch, and her dere dere scenes make her awesomely sweet (locker room scene FTW)
tomoyo was a girl i didnt really get that attached to in the first season
till the OVA came out and i was totally inlove with her (almost to the point of how i was with nagisa after a whole season)
and nagisa was the first key female lead i totally fell inlove with ever (i prefered nayuki to ayu, and while i liked misuzu i still saw her as a girl rather then a love interest)
i came into clannad thinking tomoyo was going to be my fav
and nagisa won me over completely

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 16:26

Episode 24 was hardly better then the entire first season.

Hardly better is still better~

:eyespin:

Anime Daisuki

2008-10-05, 16:30

Hardly better is still better~

:eyespin:

I misphrased that, I meant it wasn't better then the full season. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

todkapuz

2008-10-05, 16:44

Ahh its soo nice to be back in the Clannad world again... how I've missed it so...

All in all a fun episode to start us back in to the story... nice gathering of all the characters... love the new OP and ED ... time to go see how many episodes they plan to put this in... for there is a lot (LOT) lot of story to go... still wondering how they are going to end this. :)

beyond that, all i can say for now.

Echoes

2008-10-05, 16:49

This episode exceeded my already sky-high expectations, it was a pure joy seeing all the characters return. I can't remember the last time I laughed this much, Sunohara + Nagisa's father made sure there was never a dull moment.

Master Chibi

2008-10-05, 16:50

I misphrased that, I meant it wasn't better then the full season. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Hey it's an opinion man, no need to apologize.

:P

Garet Jax

2008-10-05, 17:13

It was essentially a filler episode, but an entertaining one. Certainly Yoshino Yuusuke stole the show for me, with his backhanded melodramatic lamp-shading, the type of which is almost a trademark of Ishihara's sense of humour.

I was wondering about those scenes. So was there any significance beyond this? (The director's style that you mentioned.) It all seemed to come kind of...out of left field. ;) I'll admit I don't remember him much from S1, though.

Anime Daisuki

2008-10-05, 17:16

The biggest factor of this episode would be the nostalgia factor. They brought back all the good old jokes, Tomoyo kicking Sunohara, Sanae's bread, etc.

monir

2008-10-05, 18:12

If your qualm isn't that she hasn't got her backstory, full of sobs, tragedy and wintery backgrounds then you are pretty cruel. :p Aw well, just take into account that while characters like Kotomi, Tomoyo, and other people who got their arcs solved last season and as such their characters are pretty much close to completion, for people like Nagisa and Tomoya himself season 1 was more like a prologue, introduction and chapter 1-2 to their story.
My qualm is that the first season is intended toward the game players, so they can relive those "paths" of these different set of characters. The relevant story actually starts taking shape from episode 18 and onward. Did we really need 17 episodes just to get to the core of the story? I'm not saying I didn't enjoy those episodes, but the answer still is , "heck no." My qualm is that I am not the intended target audience for the most part of the season 1. As a result, I can understand the frustration expressed by posters such as Master Chibi. To interrupt the flow of the story to satisfy the game players with these "paths" is what irks me about stories adapted from games and such. Those kind of story telling leaves the door open for misunderstanding. Character development isn't necessarily done only by sobs stories and the likes, but I'm sure you are already aware of that.

I'm cruel, but not to that extent where I'll generalize characters based on my own bias. I give myself more credit. :)

Evayo

2008-10-05, 19:08

Stories like these are all about the development of the characters. Tomoya doesn't just sulk in a corner for a couple minutes and then spring to his feet yelling "I want to be with you for the rest of my life, Nagisa!" He has to take baby steps. Crawl, walk, then run.

That being said, I have no problem with lengthy pacing and I feel like this season is going to throw a lot more at us than the first as Tomoya becomes more involved in those around him.

~:Evayo:~

Proto

2008-10-05, 19:23

My qualm is that the first season is intended toward the game players, so they can relive those "paths" of these different set of characters. The relevant story actually starts taking shape from episode 18 and onward. Did we really need 17 episodes just to get to the core of the story? I'm not saying I didn't enjoy those episodes, but the answer still is , "heck no.

I see, and I understand where you come from, and your point is completely valid. My personal take of it is that previous chapters are within the theme CLANNAD tries to convey. True, its not part of the very core of the story, however it is pivotal in giving more strength to the resolution of the whole series.

Mecha_Trueno

2008-10-05, 19:45

did anyone else find that kotomi's first line (in the club room) didn't quite sound like kotomi? what happened there? did mamiko start her engines a little late getting into 'kotomi mode' or something? ...or is it just my ears f*cking with me?:confused:still dunno if its just me or not... anyone notice?

Mirrinus

2008-10-05, 20:33

still dunno if its just me or not... anyone notice?

Doesn't sound that weird to me...is there anything in particular about it that didn't sound right to you?

NettoSaito

2008-10-05, 21:31

i thought this ep was amazing! lol

it was very funny but too bad most of the jokes were inside jokes so my friends wouldn't understand them...... either way it pwned lol

Nochgo

2008-10-05, 21:32

Actually, throughout the episode I thought there was a subtle difference between Kotomo's voice in the first season and second season. I'm pretty picky about voices (though not to annoyance), and her voice seems a bit less soft(?) than it was last season. But I'll have to rewatch the first season episodes to confirm that.

Aizu

2008-10-05, 23:48

I know better then to watch Ikkitousen in any form, but realistically speaking Kotomi's BOOBLES are so big the damn suspenders on her school uniform get pushed to the side. Hell, the same goes for Tomoyo too.
:V
You gonna get some fun - her official sizes are 88/58/85. Tomoyo's are 86/57/82. Nagisa's are 80/55/81.

Mirrinus

2008-10-06, 00:28

Evayo

2008-10-06, 00:30

You gonna get some fun - her official sizes are 88/58/85. Tomoyo's are 86/57/82. Nagisa's are 80/55/81.

Whoa, you mean they actually have official measurements for the characters? And why was I, Super Power Ultra Knower of Relevant Information, occasionally known as Evayo, not informed of this?!

Oh, and in terms of Kotomi's voice, I really couldn't tell you. I don't hear much of a difference in the overall tone of her voice, but she sounds a little more like she knows exactly what she wants to say, rather than how she always used to sound more hesitant and breathy. I suppose she comes across as... a little less shy, perhaps?

~:Evayo:~

Aizu

2008-10-06, 00:32

Whoa, you mean they actually have official measurements for the characters?
Yes, of course.

Master Chibi

2008-10-06, 01:36

You gonna get some fun - her official sizes are 88/58/85. Tomoyo's are 86/57/82. Nagisa's are 80/55/81.

This was taken from the first season

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6504/vlcsnap136473je3.png

Look at those KAZONGAS just JUT OUT of the uniform like that, my god.

And the one below was taken from this episode:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8873/vlcsnap273550yw1.png

Both those pair of PUPPIES are just killing that uniform outright, Tomoyo isn't even putting her arms in the same position as Kotomi and they're already covering that much space.

Hell, I would pay $20 to see if they could actually touch their elbows together with those things in the way.

But yeah, you can see where I'm coming from when I called her a pair of talking tits.

:P