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u&t
2003-11-11, 14:46
This is just a stupid rant

Aw, browsing reviews at Animenfo realy makes me pissed. Reviews there are near total fucking useless. I would not be surprised if more than half of all the reviews are perfect tens and an additional ten or so percent are perfect ones.

I mean WHATS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!? If you look at the review statistics for a reviewer its not uncommon to find those that only give perfect tens to shows. It's nice to hear other peoples opinions about stuff but if you you think everything is the greatest thing ever in the world since sliced bread then your opinion isn't worth shit.

Crap. I only wish Animenfo had some kind of weighted scoring for the shows. A single reviewers contribution to a score should be the deviation from the users own statistical mean score (the idiots that only can give ones or tens should be excluded alltogether).

Bleh. Sorry for the rant. To bad I don't feel i have the time. Writing some scripts to pull down all that data and then process it shouldn't be that hard...

DrWho2002
2003-11-11, 15:11
That's why I never rely on others opinions on shows. Everything is too subjective, and only my own opinion of the show is going to matter anyways because I'm the one watching it... =p

BME
2003-11-11, 15:21
Itīs just because people wants their favorite shows to have an high avarage.

Anlushac11
2003-11-11, 16:18
AnimeNfo's rating is based on average of all the ratings for a given title.

Theoretically that means that the more people that review it the more accurate the review is.

To me the ratings are worthless until you get 75-100 or more people who have voted on it.

u&t
2003-11-11, 16:40
Yeah, I know that but what pisses me off is that alot of the reviews are really good but they totally dissapear in the flood of "Best anime ever!"-reviews.

I know this is a useless rant. Once the fanboys gets a hold of something the screaming never ends. It just makes med depressed listening to it

hunterx
2003-11-11, 17:22
solidus is right. there are some zealots out there who will give 10s to their favorite shows even if the general consesus is it is crap. But still animenfo is quite useful if you ignore the ratings and read the reviews. You can get a good sense whether you like it or not, doesn't always happen though. For their X TV review it's all perfect 10s, while it is good it is not that good. too many boring episodes, predictable, pointy faces etc. Then there are the truely horrible ones like divergence eve, really bad show that people give 10s just to prop up the ratings

DrWho2002
2003-11-11, 17:27
No they do that with shows like Divergence eve cause they like the boobies... =p

monpuchi
2003-11-11, 18:42
you shouldnt place so much importance on what others think of a series in the first place. just find out for yourself. its stupid to get mad because those comments cant be considered real reviews so why even read them? of course the people that like the series are gonna give it a 10 and the people that dont like it arent even gonna bother rating. its pretty obvious, really

u&t
2003-11-11, 19:02
Yeah, yeah. But what makes me frustrated is that its some really good stuff in that data. It's just hidden by all the crap. An anti-fanboy filter would make animenfo soo much better.

monir
2003-11-11, 21:14
Although I agree with U&T, Animenfo is the only site I know that can atleast give me some idea for a particular anime I would like to watch...I dont need to see the rating for the show...I could always dl one and if I dont like, back to the trash-bin it goes..simple:D

saku~ya
2003-11-11, 22:38
I only use AnimeNfo to see what the series is about as well as how many episodes it has. I may skim over the comments, but they don't really affect my opinon.

ShinRyu
2003-11-12, 00:04
I only use AnimeNfo to see what the series is about as well as how many episodes it has. I may skim over the comments, but they don't really affect my opinon.

dun read comment.. i prefer to see if its available on fan-sub and then d/l to check it out.... what they like, i may not like it ..and vice versa.

Sepiraph
2003-11-12, 01:08
The way I see it, the problems with the reviews at animenfo are:

1) As mentioned, reviewers who give almost all 10s to every single anime that they review.

2) At the other extreme, u have people who would give all 1s to good anime, the reason being that they want to lower the score and have their favourte anime to be #1.

3) Lack of comment in the review, many people just write a line or two.

4) Reviewers who fluctuate widly in their review ranking and generally gives really low score to the anime that they don't like.

Also Shounen anime (i.e Naruto, Hajime no Ippo, Hakura no Go, Hunter X Hunter, etc) tends to get ridiculously high scores, no doubt because of the horde of 13 years old fanboys. :frustrated:

Seifer_us
2003-11-12, 02:20
Well, so far, I've only submitted a couple of episode guides and one review to animenfo, however the one review I submitted was for the anime "Piano". Which I gave fair scores as I thought it deserved per-section, and I wrote what I think may be the longest commentary on a series that is on that site, disecting the show part-by-part. If you get a chance you may find it in there somewhere amidst all the "tihs sucks" reviews. I was actually very happy that someone who read my review actually sent me an e-mail thanking me for my detail and fair reviewing.

Anyway, so maybe there are some bright spots amidst all the dim bulbs, but it doesn't appear to be many.

Kamui4356
2003-11-12, 03:06
The problem in the only people who post reviews either love or hate that anime. This means no matter how many people post reviews, it's still useless. If a series has a lot of reviews you at least know it's popular, but that's all you know. Personally I don't see why people need to draw a connection between liking something and it being good. I've seen anime that I like, but I know it's complete crap. I've also seen anime that I thought was good, but I didn't like.

Iron Monkey
2003-11-12, 04:32
It's because they have no standard for their reviewers. Anyone who sets up an account can review a show. I'd say 3/4 of the reviewers on there are idiots, who have no idea how to review anything.

You have people giving insanely high scores to everything. Or, equally annoying, are people who go "oh, I watched one episode of this show and it absolutely sucks!!!" and then give the show 1. Then there are people who obviously don't like a certain genre (ie. mahou shoujo, harem, ecchi, etc), or they go "oh, this show is so kiddy!", or "this show has so much ecchi!" and then give very low scores to that.

These people are ignorant, as these shows are clearly not geared towards them. When you review, it's better to compare series from within a genre rather than cross genres. If you don't like a certain genre in general, then you are obviously going to give every show within that genre a low score.

Seifer_us
2003-11-12, 04:37
Stating, "If you like this type of show you may like it." or "If you didn't like such-and-such, you may not like it." is a really good way of helping people find what they want. I worked at a small video rental store for a year and a half, and most of the customers liked to talk with me, because they knew that I would be friendly, and would help them find what they like, not what I want them to like. That in itself might be why some people just shouldn't review, because for some strange reason, they assume that just because they don't like it, no one else should either.

On a side note, it's now 2 reviews. After thinking about this I went and wrote a review for Nanaka 6/17. Check it out if you want.

http://www.animenfo.com/review.php?id=1140&n=wbgxxz&t=nanaka_6_17&type=anime

Dorfl
2003-11-12, 05:15
Also Shounen anime (i.e Naruto, Hajime no Ippo, Hakura no Go, Hunter X Hunter, etc) tends to get ridiculously high scores, no doubt because of the horde of 13 years old fanboys. :frustrated:
Except that Hajime no Ippo actually deserves the high scores it gets...Plus all of the people I know who like it are considerably older than 13.

Xess
2003-11-12, 05:28
I don't know, but because of the hordes of people giving 'reviews' at animenfo, the scores actually come down to quite an agreeable average I feel. The number of fans vs. the number of haters is one way of measuring the enjoyability of the series. If you were to rate stuff at animenfo in this way:
1 star < 7.5
2 stars 7.6 - 8.2
3 stars 8.3 - 8.8
4 stars 8.9 - 9.2
5 stars > 9.3

So, 5 star shows with over 100 voters would be:
- Last Exile
- Ruroni Kenshin: Reminiscence
- Hajime no Ippo
- Great Teacher Onizuka
- Hunter X Hunter
- Hikaru no Go
- Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
- Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
- Full Moon wo Sagashite
- Scrapped Princess
- Cowboy Beebop Movie
- 12 Kingdoms

NenMaster
2003-11-12, 07:14
they should go over all ratings and filter out the bullshit.

Xess
2003-11-12, 08:43
They do filter, just that they cant keep up with the hundreds of rubbish reviews they get spammed with.

u&t
2003-11-12, 09:06
There are spam-filters (spambayes etc) that are really easy to modify and use. They should use one of those.

ElvenPath
2003-11-12, 14:03
Animenfo shouldn't allow general public reviews, they should have a proper reviewing team. It's the best solution.

JAppi
2003-11-12, 14:34
Why would someone take the time and effort to rate something if they didn't extremely like it or extremly hate it? If it's a show you're indifferent about you won't see any point in reviewing it.

It's not really a review but more of an average of how many people who hate it and how many people love it.

monir
2003-11-12, 16:23
Well, so far, I've only submitted a couple of episode guides and one review to animenfo, however the one review I submitted was for the anime "Piano". Which I gave fair scores as I thought it deserved per-section, and I wrote what I think may be the longest commentary on a series that is on that site, disecting the show part-by-part. If you get a chance you may find it in there somewhere amidst all the "tihs sucks" reviews. I was actually very happy that someone who read my review actually sent me an e-mail thanking me for my detail and fair reviewing.

Anyway, so maybe there are some bright spots amidst all the dim bulbs, but it doesn't appear to be many.
Good to see you are back...Did you do any review on Gungrave?

Seifer_us
2003-11-12, 23:43
Good to see you are back...Did you do any review on Gungrave?

Nope. I won't review it until it's finished. Until then, I'll just say that I like it... a lot... a whole lot. It's one of the first real Mafia centered series I've seen. You could say some others have had elements of that, but this gets more "Godfather-ish" than anything else I've ever seen. I'm happy to get this setup for where the game begins, and I think it will make newcomers a bit more receptive when it gets into storyline that the game presents. Sometime, I'll try to get the other episode summaries up, but it's kind of my policy not to judge anything until it's finished.

I just wish the first R2 would come out already... :sad: <-- waiting patiently...

7thMethuselah
2003-11-15, 18:20
The good thing about animeNfo is that everyone can write their opinion on a series. I don't rely too much on the scores myself but I find the little statistic screen a better way to see what ppl think of this anime(just think away the 10 and 1 and you get a better view).

What I do like about are the reviews, apart from the bunch of stupid reviews there are quite a few good ones in there too.

I myself write reviews sometimes too at animeNfo, in order to do so I made myself a little note to see what i need to pay attention to. So far I gave 2 perfect 10's (Love Hina Saikano) out of 25 reviews... I find giving scores rather hard because you need to compare the shows vs one another so not always easy to say this is better then that and what grade to give ...

enough ranting :heh: animeNfo is good for the reviews, just ignore the scores for the most part :)

Dorfl
2003-11-15, 20:04
I write reviews on animenfo as well, but I haven't given any review 10/10 yet, because 10/10 would imply that I thought the series was absolutely perfect. To give an idea of the subjectivity of those reviews (which, of course, is what all reviews are supposed to be about), I would give Love Hina 3/10 because it's boring and Saikano 6.5/10 because I didn't really like it.

Gaara11
2003-11-16, 10:41
Animenfo can just be so frustrating sometimes. If somebody gave a 1 for one of your fave shows u want to find that guy and smack his ass. Stupid people give stupid ratings to annoy u.

"I give Cowboy Bebop a 1 because I think it's overrated." - :bash:

Aquillion
2003-11-16, 20:13
I find it useful to read the reviews. Even if a lot of them are stupid, you can still learn something from that. For example (though I think I've mentioned this before), I knew not to watch Mouse not because of the dozens of reviews that gave it all 1's and similarly low scores, but the one review I came across that gave it all 10's, with the entire text being "WOO BOOBIES!" You can often tell more about a show from the people who like it then from the people who dislike it.

It'd be nice to have some filtering options, though -- perhaps "filter all reviews of less then X length", as well as an option to ignore reviews by specific people. It'd be even better if you could see the modified average derived from your non-ignored reviews, though I still don't think the average would be very meaningful.

But one other thing is to use the "related material" feature. Those can't really be ruined by fanboys -- if a 13-year-old fanboy wants to say that some Shonen anime is the best thing EVAR, they'll say it's similar to DBZ, and you'll know what that means.

Unfortunately not enough people add related material currently, but it has the potental to be extremely useful if enough people contributed to it.

Bullsquat
2004-04-25, 22:54
I dunno if this is an appropriate thread or not but I just feel like venting a little bit after 17 of my reviews were systematically deleted for no apparent reasons. And these aren't some schlock reviews of straight up 10s or 1s. I've actually done some extensive writing on them. No cussing, no flaming, and nothing distasteful as far as I can remember.

Not only that, I notice how the moderator whoever the hell he is now (coz I heard the founder moved on) is not only removing my reviews but a lot of other people's reviews. I saw Yumeria plummet from 8.1 all the way down to 7.5 in an hour, and Gokusen which peaked from 8.4 suddenly drop to 7.7. All the while other titles with fanboy ratings and not much of anything else written except 'the best show ever and a must watch' and such getting longevity.

What exactly is this moderator trying to do? And no I don't always trust animenfo reviews but there are occasions when I do read upon decent reviews with actual in depth analysis of a series. If this new moderator is acting on his own personal bias, he shouldn't put up public reviews in the first place.

Of course, I no longer post reviews anymore and I hope this guy quits as soon as possible.

Guts
2004-04-25, 22:59
This seems like the appropriate place to report him :)

Lina Inverse
2004-04-25, 23:07
That's quite sad... AnimeNfo was a good place to get info, but if it's now lead by a freaked-out Mod :twitch:
Quite a loss... but there's still the AnimeDB to get info from.

Secca
2004-04-25, 23:27
I stil find AnimeNfo a good place to find credits, voice actor and informtion. but reviews and ratings, not such a good idea. ^^

boneyjellyfish
2004-04-25, 23:37
I stil find AnimeNfo a good place to find credits, voice actor and informtion. but reviews and ratings, not such a good idea. ^^

Better place: AnimeNewsNetwork.com (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com).

Kyuven
2004-04-26, 00:32
it's a good rule of the thumb to not trust reader/viewer reviews on almost anything

relentlessflame
2004-04-26, 01:00
it's a good rule of the thumb to not trust reader/viewer reviews on almost anything
Because for truly unbiased commentary on all the latest anime, you only need to go to one place - right here on the AnimeSuki forums! (My check's in the mail, right?)

Seriously, though, in my time posting here on these boards I feel like I've gotten to know a lot of the fellow posters in terms of the types of shows they like and don't like, and there are definitely individuals on here whose recommendations I would believe and trust. The key is to find people who have the same tastes as you do. All reviews are pretty pointless, unless you can identify with the tastes of the individual person doing the review. If you can identify with the person, then it's like trusting the word of a friend, as opposed to believing that there is some kind of objective way of reviewing anime, or believing that the majority is right (the majority is *not* right, they are simply the majority).



Anyway, all this is beside the point. I've always found reading the Reader Reviews on AnimeNfo to be an exercise in frustration - for every good well-thought-out review, there are about 10 useless ones who are there only to skew the score. And the scores themselves, even if thoughtfully applied, are laughable because the reviewers don't necessarily agree to a common scale (a 5 to one person may mean average, while a 5 to someone else may mean bordering on failing). It's always crummy when a moderator goes wild and messes everything up, but that system was flawed since day one anyways.

A more useful type of evaluation system, I find, is the Anime Recommendations Database (http://www.anime-planet.com/animerec/). You just find a show you liked, and others who liked the same show make recommendations for other related shows they liked. You can also take the opposite approach of finding a show you're interested in, and seeing what other shows people relate to it. It's a simple concept, but I find it much more useful.

Secca
2004-04-26, 01:52
Anyway, all this is beside the point. I've always found reading the Reader Reviews on AnimeNfo to be an exercise in frustration - for every good well-thought-out review, there are about 10 useless ones who are there only to skew the score. And the scores themselves, even if thoughtfully applied, are laughable because the reviewers don't necessarily agree to a common scale (a 5 to one person may mean average, while a 5 to someone else may mean bordering on failing). It's always crummy when a moderator goes wild and messes everything up, but that system was flawed since day one anyways.
Animenfo reviews, it's a mess.

The worst are done by the fanboys, they give all 10 on their favorite show, but give all 1 on other show they don't like. it's like a rating war.

Another bad one is the people that judge an anime based on the cover or the first episode.

Altho there are some decent review every now and then, but it just not worth the trouble and frustation. ^^

Bullsquat
2004-04-26, 02:36
Its not so much that I look at the ratings anyway. A lot of my favorite shows such as Gilgamesh or Utena aren't exactly ratings friendly. But when I'm thinking about watching a certain series I don't really know much about, I try to get as much input on it as a I can. Of course, most reviews coming from animenfo are fanboy reviews but again there are those occasions when well thought-out reviews do pop up and I do read them. Nowadays, even the good reviews just disappear so its that much harder now to take this website seriously. They still provide useful informations such as the seiyuu, studios, and US distributions but the reviews are as unreliable as ever.

skreech
2004-04-26, 03:06
truthfully i've never really paid much attention to other people's reviews of anime. what makes me decide whether or not to watch one is if the desciption/summary of the anime sounds like something i would like to watch. reviews, like most have pointed out, are just mainly opinions, and everybody has they're own tastes.

my mix of genres is a very weird one, for example, i like the love stories type(yes, a guy that likes love stories) like Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Midori no Hibi (two completely different types one serious one funny). But in the same aspect i like action shows like Naruto and Tenjou Tenge. I don't remember where i was going with this by now so i'll stop there before i get more :topicoff:

in short give me a good accurate description of the show (or start of the plot) and i'll probably end up watching at least half of it.

SKoRPioN9x
2004-04-26, 03:57
Animenfo reviews, it's a mess.

The worst are done by the fanboys, they give all 10 on their favorite show, but give all 1 on other show they don't like. it's like a rating war.

Another bad one is the people that judge an anime based on the cover or the first episode.

Altho there are some decent review every now and then, but it just not worth the trouble and frustation. ^^
Don't forget about the idiots who create new accounts just to give their favorite series all tens and some other good series that is getting higher ratings than it all ones. This happened a LOT when Kiminozo was #1 on the top100 list. I saw so many people give Kiminozo all ones, and they only had one or two other anime series in their stats that they've reviewed as all 10s - the ones that Kiminozo took the #1 spot from (I think Last Exile was one of them; and something else, Scrapped Princess maybe).

:o:rolleyes:

And sometimes it was so blatantly obvious that it wasn't even funny. I remember seeing two all-one reviews in a row for Kiminozo. Both of the reviewers' names had something to do with Deedlit, and they both registered just minutes before posting the reviews. Oh, and they both had horrible grammar and spelling, as well :heh:.

kamatari honjo
2004-06-06, 10:17
top 100 (www.animenfo.com/statistic/top100.php?l=anime)

who else thinks this list is a little off; obviously bias toward current anime, but seriously i wouldnt call it a bad list.

personally i would kick off a few of the shows like noir and gunslinger girls and add some ghibli films. and i don't know how full moon is NUMBER ONE! i mean everyone has a difference of opinion, but i can not fathom how this show gets to be number one. i think i preferred it when kimi ga was number 1.

but i am also wondering if anyone has seen every anime on the list, completely? after adding it up (only shows i had seen all available fansubs or commerical releases of; example: i wouldn't count seeing inu yasha since i have only seen up to 70.) i have only seen about 49 of the 100 animes.

Mcdonalds
2004-06-06, 10:20
wtf, gunslinger girl rocks, well i really liked it anyway. As for the top 100, i heard that it changes all the time due to fanbois repeatedly voting. In general though i'd say it wasn't too bad

7thMethuselah
2004-06-06, 12:03
Well animeNfo has alot of 10 and 0 voters and very few serious reviewers, so I wouldn't take the rankings too seriously. Maybe the ppl on animeNfo should consider kicking all the "anime i like = 10 anime i don't like = 0 " voters off. Just an idea.

Ambience Blue
2004-06-06, 14:09
I agree that there is a bit of bias, especially due to timing issues. (The longer a series exists, the more likely it is to disappear into oblivion, whereas cool newer series can get a major rush rite at the beginning, ex. KGNE (I liked it tho)). As for Noir, it's one of my top 5, so it deserves to be on the list. Prolly some more Ghilbi wouldn't be a bad idea, but as I said, it's an easily-influenceable medium (it's not a bad source for recent titles, tho)

OutPhase
2004-06-06, 17:37
I'm just scocked that FLCL got in 16th overall. Same thing about Chobits in 22nd. As for Love Hina the manga's better in my opinion an what the hell is Naruto doingin 7th? Also, where's 95 through 100 and why's 182 through 187 doing on a top 100 list anyway?! This is one screwed up list.

Edit: It's back to normal now.

Kyuven
2004-06-06, 17:44
the reason Full Moon and the other top series got the top is because, obviously, more people liked it than hated it. The dingbats that go around and peg 0s on popular shows probably avoided Full Moon because...well...even i didn't know wtf it was til i sat down and watched it ^_^

ubb
2004-06-06, 19:36
It's an opinion on ranking 100 anime titles in order. If you actually agree with the list completely then I would say there is something wrong with you.

Kyuven
2004-06-06, 20:34
It's an opinion on ranking 100 anime titles in order. If you actually agree with the list completely then I would say there is something wrong with you.
DING DING DING! we have a winner! :) (no sarcasm at all)
personally i don't even like reading those reviews, they have a bearing on whether you watch a show or not (stuff in the top 10 like Full Moon or Cowboy bebop, while they have their detractors, a good percentage of people will recomend them)
there's a lot on there that i can agree with, and a few things that shouldn't be (in my belief, for instance, Naruto should be further down the list and FLCL should be higher)

Radd
2004-06-07, 03:26
Any "top whatever" list is a poll of opinions. Opinions are based on many things.

"Does this have any real merits that appeal to me?"
I believe this ranks very low for most people, as far as their priorities for deciding what they "like" and what they don't.

"Is this popular with others?"
Mob mentality is a very real phenominon. Much of our culture and society is based on this principle. If something gains popularity with enough people, others will join in simply because they are led to believe that it is "cool" to like it. On the other hand, some people will choose to dislike something, despite any merits it may have, simply because the person in question wants to stand apart from the crowd. Further muddying this principle, there are those who will see a growing number of people disliking a show because it's popular, and then they throw in with that crowd because they want to be an individual, but only if it's just like everybody else.

"Was this created by someone who has done other stuff I've ranked highly?"
For some people, there are those who can do no wrong. Perhaps there is a creator that made something they really, really liked. Many will tend to praise everything they do, regardless of how well the actual product is. The same goes for franchises. Look at Star Trek, all the shows are very different and I would argue show a huge gap in quality levels, yet there are those that will stand by all things Trek.

"How old is this?"
Sadly, there are people that will refuse to like anything older than some arbitrarily set date in their minds. Some grow out of this, others don't. Some people only like the hip and trendy flavour of the week. Let's face it, if Naruto was made 20 years ago, it wouldn't have nearly as many fans right now, even if the animation was identicle. It would be old hat.
Then there are those that will only like old anime, and claim quality has gone down considerably since some magical "golden age" that really only ever existed in their own heads.

All this is why lists don't interest me. You could make a new thread on this forum called "list 5 anime titles completely at random!" and it would serve just as much a purpose as any "what's your top 5/what's the 5 worst" threads out there. This is also why I take every review I read with a heavy grain of salt, and won't accept any opinion unless the reviewer gives me a solid viewpoint so that I can relate to their angle. If I know what a reviewer's priorities are, then even if they consistantly write reviews that I disagree with, I can get an idea from them on whether or not I will like something they reviewed.

Sugetsu
2004-06-07, 03:45
lol Saint Seiya is not even on the list @_@

*DAMN DIC WHY WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN THE ONLY CHANCE THAT THE AMERICANS HAD TO WATCH ONE OF THE BEST SERIES OF ALL THE TIME :frustrated: *

Will there ever be one last attempt to show Saint Seiya on American TV once again? :sad:

Mr_Paper
2004-06-07, 11:22
Probably not... Older shows don't tend to fair too well with few exceptions.

Besides, ADV is releasing the uncut and unedited episodes on DVD so it doesn't need to be televised. =P

mayukhers112
2004-06-07, 11:23
lol Saint Seiya is not even on the list @_@

*DAMN DIC WHY WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN THE ONLY CHANCE THAT THE AMERICANS HAD TO WATCH ONE OF THE BEST SERIES OF ALL THE TIME :frustrated: *

Will there ever be one last attempt to show Saint Seiya on American TV once again? :sad:


The Hades Sanctuary Chapter is on there....

But anyway, wow, this list has changed since the last time I saw it! Full Moon was number one last time I saw it, but my favorite titles, like Kaleido Star, Kiki's Delivery Service (and all Ghibli movies I've seen), Pita Ten, and Princess Tutu...
But where's Ultra Maniac? It was pretty high on the list before...

And, as for Full Moon being no. 1, I'm pretty happy with a mahou-shoujo making the top of the list!

Mr_Paper
2004-06-07, 11:28
The Hades Sanctuary Chapter is on there....

But anyway, wow, this list has changed since the last time I saw it! Full Moon was number one last time I saw it, but my favorite titles, like Kaleido Star, Kiki's Delivery Service (and all Ghibli movies I've seen), Pita Ten, and Princess Tutu...
But where's Ultra Maniac? It was pretty high on the list before...

And, as for Full Moon being no. 1, I'm pretty happy with a mahou-shoujo making the top of the list!I never look at the AnimeNfo top 100 list. I find it horribly misrepresented with the newest shows always finding their way to the top even if they're undeserving of the position. The reviews are a completely different issue... Let's just say to date I have found 10 reviews on AnimeNfo I consider any good (meaning the thoroughly discuss every area being rated and more).

A mahou-shoujo series holding 1st place is a humorous and unusual sight to behold. ^^;

Yamano667
2004-06-07, 11:29
well mahou-shoujo is always on top of the list, have u ever figured why is that ? hehe :D

The Hades Sanctuary Chapter is on there....

But anyway, wow, this list has changed since the last time I saw it! Full Moon was number one last time I saw it, but my favorite titles, like Kaleido Star, Kiki's Delivery Service (and all Ghibli movies I've seen), Pita Ten, and Princess Tutu...
But where's Ultra Maniac? It was pretty high on the list before...

And, as for Full Moon being no. 1, I'm pretty happy with a mahou-shoujo making the top of the list!

Yamano667
2004-06-07, 11:37
the rating are badly measured and oddly rated by the fans
...I never trust animenfo fans, because they put 10 ratin to something they never seen to the last episode, what a joke




I never look at the AnimeNfo top 100 list. I find it horribly misrepresented with the newest shows always finding their way to the top even if they're undeserving of the position. The reviews are a completely different issue... Let's just say to date I have found 10 reviews on AnimeNfo I consider any good (meaning the thoroughly discuss every area being rated and more).

A mahou-shoujo series holding 1st place is a humorous and unusual sight to behold. ^^;

Mr_Paper
2004-06-07, 11:40
the rating are badly measured and oddly rated by the fans
...I never trust animenfo fans, because they put 10 ratin to something they never seen to the last episode, what a jokeI think it's better when they rate a show with all 10's a week before the first episode airs. >.>;

Silver_Scorcher
2004-06-07, 11:41
Wasn't this thread already done? Anyways, that list is by no means accurate. I haven't visited the site in a while, but last I checked Naruto was #1, Kimi Ga Nozumu Ein was 2nd and the first Kenshin OVA was 3rd. How many times was Naruto reviewed on that site? 4000 times? And only a mere fraction of those reviews are actually considered reviews while the other 3995 reviews are given all 10's and people saying "This rocks!" or "Best anime Ever!". Overall it's not a good site to review anime. The best they can do, is take down that list and end the insanity.

YummyYummyKirisuChan
2004-06-08, 09:37
So sad that Chobits, while cute, beat out Lain, Eva, ect. I never know where to get good anime reviews. I hate fluffy shows...well, usually, at any rate. I don't have time to sift through all of the lame fanboy/girl reviewed shows. I just want to know what the next new quality program is so I can d/l it and watch it.

I enjoy:

Eva, FLCL, almost all Miyazaki films, Lain, Fushigi Yuugi, Yami no Matsuei, Utena, Gunslinger Girl, Ranma, Inu Yasha and, oddly enough that good ol' eighties dub of Macross, Robotech.

I am irritated by:

Nadesico, Hime Chan no Ribbon, Angelic Layer, Chobits, to some extent, Those Who Hunt Elves, Kite, Fruits Basket, Record of Lodoss ect.

So, This isn't a condemnations of anything, perse, just my varied tastes expressed through shows I'm listing off the top of my head. So, if anyone has any reccommendations, especially for some shounen ai not involving particularly young school boys. I'm all ears....erm eyes.

Radd
2004-06-08, 16:32
oddly enough that good ol' eighties dub of Macross, Robotech.



You should give the uncut Macross a try, there were so many story edits and changes in themes that it's like watching a completely different show that happens to look the same.

Caddberry
2004-06-12, 15:45
The Top 100 list constantly fluctuates due to review moderation, and fanboys/girls spamming, but the spam reviews arent nearly as bad as they were when the list arrived.

Honestly, we are constantly review moderating in our spare time, but more and more reviews constantly come in.

There is also work being done on the site, but yeah I really wish people would stop submitting crap reviews as well.

I havent been on this board in awhile.. ^_^

DarkCntry
2004-06-12, 16:18
I can agree with like 30 of the top 100, just not in the order that they have.

KGNE, to me, is accurate enough because I feel it's a fairly different anime of the rest and it's a very good piece of work, but that's my opinion and if it were up to me, it'd be #1 ;)

There are a few of those "OMG if you don't like this anime you suck" kinds of ones up there, but I'm not much into those 'everyone-has-to-see-it" popular (Naruto) types. I try to watch a couple episodes before I make a decision, but watching 32 of Naruto and not finding anything super special about it, I gave up :)

Lucier
2004-06-12, 18:57
After seeing 2 anime's I've translated in #1 and #2, I can't help but smile ^_^... (those being FMOS and KGNE, which are, indeed two of my favorites)

Even if some disagree, and even if the list isn't 100% accurate, I still think it's good.

Rarity
2004-06-12, 19:20
I've always liked the Top 100 list. Most of the ratings averages are pretty solid, and I have picked up a couple of excellent animes based on these averages. The rankings are good, but could be made better for my tastes by adjusting the weighting of # of votes down slightly.

All in all, much of the fun in these lists is arguing about them! :p

dreamless
2004-06-12, 20:13
top list by public ratings and polls are always representive of only popularity. And popularity has no direct relation to quality.

If you ask me, Gunslinger Girl and Noir rankings are fine. EVA, Nadesico and Utena should be in top 10 (they don't get called the 3 definitive otaku anime of the 90's for no reason, while currently Nadesico is #97 and Utena is not on the list! :twitch: ) Lain should be higher, Boogiepop Phantom deserves a place, and Kino no Tabi is definitely one of the best anime ever. While things like Shaman King, Chobits and Onegai Twins on the list is just absurd... well that's just my opinions anyway... and if that list is a "top 100 best anime list" (which it obviously isn't...)

Anyway, I think that list offers some good reference if you just want to get an anime to watch to pass the time, however people should keep in mind that it's definitely not the "best anime top 100" list, rather the "most popular anime top 100" list...

Caddberry
2004-06-12, 21:33
Hey DarkCntry, fancy seeing you here ~_^

top list by public ratings and polls are always representive of only popularity. And popularity has no direct relation to quality.

Well said.. Popularity does have little to do with the actual quality, and because some anime isn't pushed as much people don't see it, and it gets easily overlooked.

Anyway, I think that list offers some good reference if you just want to get an anime to watch to pass the time, however people should keep in mind that it's definitely not the "best anime top 100" list, rather the "most popular anime top 100" list...

This is true as well. When I first came to the animesuki board it was around the time I was getting VERY into anime, and I was looking for a permanent forum home so to speak.. I found AnimeNfo, and I now have quite a few series from that top 100 List.. The major problem we had was that when it arrived immediately people spammed and pushed up their favorite anime. Which is why we are now conducting review moderation, but like i said there is so much to go through, and so little time to do it.

I always liked the reviews (some of them ~_^) And I still read them today to help me decide on a series.. But before we started heavy moderation you would get pages of stuff like "This was good" or "Best Ever!" Which tells the reader absolutely nothing.. We are still in the process of deciding which way were going, and still have tons of stuff to go through, but I will say that the reviews look much better than they did..

Knuckles
2004-06-12, 22:36
top list by public ratings and polls are always representive of only popularity. And popularity has no direct relation to quality.

If you ask me, Gunslinger Girl and Noir rankings are fine. EVA, Nadesico and Utena should be in top 10 (they don't get called the 3 definitive otaku anime of the 90's for no reason, while currently Nadesico is #97 and Utena is not on the list! :twitch: ) Lain should be higher, Boogiepop Phantom deserves a place, and Kino no Tabi is definitely one of the best anime ever. While things like Shaman King, Chobits and Onegai Twins on the list is just absurd... well that's just my opinions anyway... and if that list is a "top 100 best anime list" (which it obviously isn't...)

Anyway, I think that list offers some good reference if you just want to get an anime to watch to pass the time, however people should keep in mind that it's definitely not the "best anime top 100" list, rather the "most popular anime top 100" list...

Yes this list is not about best anime but, popular anime.
You can see this by looking at the year of the anime on this list
70% are 2000 and later (actualy 63% of the anime are 2001 - 03)
and that is because of people reviewing fansubs I think.

The older (before 2000) shows I think deserve to be on the list but,
the newer ones (at least half) is way overrated.

Actualy I have seen everything on this list except (hmm only seen 76%)
3 Rurouni Kenshin - Reminiscence (1999)
10 One Piece (1999)
23 12 Kokuki (2002) (well I have seen 6 eps, it they were good)
24 Inuyasha (2000)
25 Rurouni Kenshin (1996)
31 Hikaru no Go (2001)
37 X TV (2001)
40 Scryed (2001)
41 Vandread 2 (2001)
43 Tennis no Ohjisama (2001)
49 Vandread (2000) (seen first 5 eps and droped it)
53 Ranma 1/2 (1989)
59 Jungle wa itsumo Hare nochi Gu (2001)
62 Initial D - First Stage (1998)
65 Slam Dunk (1993)
67 Ai Yori Aoshi (2002)
71 Shaman King (2001)
72 Rurouni Kenshin - Seisouhen (2001)
94 Kodomo no Omocha (1996)
96 Fushigi Yuugi (1995)
97 Martian Successor Nadesico (1996)
98 Yu Yu Hakusho (-)
99 Gunparade March - Arata Naru Gyou Gunka (2003)
100 Maburaho (2003) (quited half way through, licenced and boring)

And form the list of shows I have not seen, I would like to see
Rurouni Kenshin (it takes 3 places on the list so it's probably good),
12 Kokuki, Kodomo no Omocha and thats about it I think.

dreamless
2004-06-12, 23:12
Yes this list is not about best anime but, popular anime.
You can see this by looking at the year of the anime on this list
70% are 2000 and later (actualy 63% of the anime are 2001 - 03)
and that is because of people reviewing fansubs I think.

The older (before 2000) shows I think deserve to be on the list but,
the newer ones (at least half) is way overrated.

Actualy I have seen everything on this list except (hmm only seen 76%)
3 Rurouni Kenshin - Reminiscence (1999)
10 One Piece (1999)
23 12 Kokuki (2002) (well I have seen 6 eps, it they were good)
24 Inuyasha (2000)
25 Rurouni Kenshin (1996)
31 Hikaru no Go (2001)
37 X TV (2001)
40 Scryed (2001)
41 Vandread 2 (2001)
43 Tennis no Ohjisama (2001)
49 Vandread (2000) (seen first 5 eps and droped it)
53 Ranma 1/2 (1989)
59 Jungle wa itsumo Hare nochi Gu (2001)
62 Initial D - First Stage (1998)
65 Slam Dunk (1993)
67 Ai Yori Aoshi (2002)
71 Shaman King (2001)
72 Rurouni Kenshin - Seisouhen (2001)
94 Kodomo no Omocha (1996)
96 Fushigi Yuugi (1995)
97 Martian Successor Nadesico (1996)
98 Yu Yu Hakusho (-)
99 Gunparade March - Arata Naru Gyou Gunka (2003)
100 Maburaho (2003) (quited half way through, licenced and boring)

And form the list of shows I have not seen, I would like to see
Rurouni Kenshin (it takes 3 places on the list so it's probably good),
12 Kokuki, Kodomo no Omocha and thats about it I think.
for that list I recommend Kenshin Reminiscence and Seisouhen, 12 kokuki, scryed... and definitely Nadesico! ;)

LytHka
2006-01-01, 14:11
A few minutes ago I got frustrated about Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and went to visit AnimeNfo.com because I remembered the anime having the second place on their Top 200 Anime ratings list. I thought I was going to calm down but then I saw it being the #1 anime on the list. I mean, "WTF!" I thought, "It can't be!" so I went to check AniDB.net and to my relief found it nowhere on their Top 10 ratings list.

Now, both ratings lists have only Fullmetal Alchemist, Rurouni Kenshin's OAV and Cowboy Bebop on top 10 positions. Now, it's something but... I mean... come on! Do these rating systems and the crowds visiting both sites differ that much to have such different ratings? Which one should the casual leecher trust more?

mangatron
2006-01-01, 14:26
I have a feeling the casual leecher should not pay attention to those ratings, sadly. Because it all boils down to who likes what, in the end websites with episode to episode reviews are the winners...

xris
2006-01-01, 14:36
A few minutes ago I got frustrated about Kimi ga Nozomu Eien and went to visit AnimeNfo.com because I remembered the anime having the second place on their Top 200 Anime ratings list. I thought I was going to calm down but then I saw it being the #1 anime on the list. I mean, "WTF!" I thought, "It can't be!" so I went to check AniDB.net and to my relief found it nowhere on their Top 10 ratings list.

Now, both ratings lists have only Fullmetal Alchemist, Rurouni Kenshin's OAV and Cowboy Bebop on top 10 positions. Now, it's something but... I mean... come on! Do these rating systems and the crowds visiting both sites differ that much to have such different ratings? Which one should the casual leecher trust more?
This has been raised a number of times now (and I'm sure there had been more threads about it lost in the recent forum restore). Here are some of the existing threads complaining about the same thing.

animenfo top 100 list (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=15002)
Has animenfo gone bonkers? (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=12417)
Whats up with those moronic animenfo reviewers? (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=740)

As mangatron states, such rating by fans doesn't exactly work and shouldn't be taken seriously.

LytHka
2006-01-01, 15:07
Sorry for being unoriginal. ;) A possible thread merge maybe?

Infinite_Ryvius
2006-01-01, 16:00
:confused: kimi ga is one of my favourite animes i'm really not sure what people have against it

milotaku
2006-01-03, 09:47
one of teh reason MYBE coz it is a sad anime >_< ... I watch KGNE.. one only.. and after dat, burn out.. .... BTW.. teh are also some anime are overated >3> example? Naruto and Bleach..... no offence... doesn't mean it is popular.. it is good... :p

DaFool
2006-01-03, 10:19
Ratings only work for mass-market items such as Hollywood movies and mainstream anime. They aren't worth anything for niche things such as obscure ero-game based anime.

Bracken33
2006-01-03, 10:27
I think the ratings on animenfo.com alone should not be taken too seriously. New and popular anime enjoy a huge advantage. Good older anime is too easily displaced.

On the other hand I really like animenfo. The huge number of fan reviews (the actual text) imho give you a better idea, how much you will enjoy a show, than a single professional review for example.

ShikaShika
2006-01-03, 10:36
A tip, find someone (on these boards or somewhere else) who you know have similar tastes, and exchange tips. It usually works a bit better than trusting a bunch of statistics. Just because an anime is well made, it doesn't have to be in your taste, which is why ratings like those can be misleading. I personally don't like erogame based anime that much either, I thought KgNE was just ok, and I couldn't even finish AIR.

Ilpalazzo-sama
2006-01-03, 14:37
AnimeNFO Top200 was never really accurate IMO...For me, KGNE is easily in my virtual top 10, but...no, probably not #1. AniDB's and ANN's top list might be a bit more accurate, but i don't entirelly agree with them either of course, but i think no one here does...Everyone has his/her own virtual top 10 (or top 20...30...40...depends how much animes have you seen/really liked).

(And, the Kenshin OVA is way, way, way, way, waaaay overrated....it is good...but why the heck is it #2 at ANFO and AniDB??)

Kensuke
2006-01-03, 15:09
I usually read those reviews rather than rely on numbers, that gives me some idea what kind of series it is. Of course peoples tastes varies greatly but it gives you more information than just numbers. Sometimes I just know whether or not I'm going to like it.

New bishoujo anime? Count me in.
New shounen series (100+ episodes)? No thank you.

Shiryuu
2006-01-03, 15:16
Tip: First, see if the genre is your kind of thing, then see how many people rate it the same without giving it a 9 or more and 5 or less (I'm talking about animenfo). Worked pretty well for me so far.

DaFool
2006-01-03, 16:26
Sometimes even the genre may not be enough to tell if it fits with tastes.

Harutoki, Meinen Leibe, Loveless, Fate Stay Night, Demonbane also fall under the ero-game based anime category (the first 3 were bishounen games, not bishoujo games). Heck many bishoujo games are no longer about romance, lol.

Many people equate seinen with moe~. Seinen can be just anything. Full Metal Panic, Shakugan no Shana, Mushishi, Ah! My Goddess, Aria are seinen, however FMP is often classified as action, Shana as loli action, Mushishi (heh, that's special, but often classified as slice-of-life / historical), Ah! My Goddess as shounen romance, Aria as slice-of-life.

I believe there are more categories and subgenres within anime than with live-action. It isn't just shoujo and shounen anymore.

Circular Logic
2006-01-03, 16:29
I tend not to trust numerical ratings for two reasons:

Firstly, people tend to go to the extremes with ratings - either 10, 1/2, or 5 (if you're lucky).

Secondly, a rating tells you nothing about a show.

If I want a recommendation, I'll read a review or ask here :D

On a side note, in my personal #10, KgNE is most definitely #1, followed by NGE, and then AIR TV.

alphabetsoup
2006-01-03, 23:47
Sometimes even the genre may not be enough to tell if it fits with tastes.

Harutoki, Meinen Leibe, Loveless, Fate Stay Night, Demonbane also fall under the ero-game based anime category (the first 3 were bishounen games, not bishoujo games). Heck many bishoujo games are no longer about romance, lol.


That's incorrect. Loveless was a manga by Kouga Yun first, then an anime. No game was ever made, aside from the cellphone game they made a few months ago. ^^;

Leo_Otaku
2006-01-04, 22:52
I just think the whole thing is stupid. Who can say that top anime is the best.

90% of the reviews are plain crap!

People can change the rating by making fake accounts, crappy reviews and so on. Then it becomes a game. I also can't stand the wieners who run the place.

KGNE is by far not anywhere near my top 50 let alone 10.

maybe it is helpful to some people but not to me no way.

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-04-15, 19:32
eh like half the anime doesn't even belong in the top 200. the top 200 is comprimsed of ilke overrated ones I guess since it's about how many people seen/review it

This site's nice to use if you read like a review from someone who despises whatever anime and someone who explains thouroughly why they love it so much to decide if you wanna check it out or not and of course there is the chance of being spoiled.

OutPhase
2007-04-15, 19:41
Let's not forget the people who give His and Her Circumstances a "10" in animation when it's one of the most poorly animated anime I have seen out there.

hobbes_fan
2007-04-16, 06:37
For any review I really need to see the detailed thoughts of reviewers. Random numbers mean diddly squat. Who put those numbers in? Could've been a bot or some obsessed fanboi of a rival series

eg something along these lines came up recently (I've edited so the poster doesn't get offended)

"the worst anime that i've seen is probably macross plus...
i didn't enjoy it that much..the drawings were not that good.."

I'm a Macross fan and I consider myself to be quite tolerant. I can hack most criticisms of Macross if they are detailed. Now by seeing something like a detailed opinion unlike the one above can dismiss opinions quite easily. Boring? Maybe. But to say it had crappy art is silly, what is he or she comparing it to? a Picasso? a Monet?. The review comes from someone who is either not interested in mecha/sci fi series or the macross franchise. Now I can sit here and blast shows like scryed, DBZ, Naruto etc etc but my opinions don't mean squat because I instantly almost hate all pure shonen/shoujo titles. My bias is there for everyone to see. I'm instantly looking for the crap bits. It's not a review worth reading because I'll give it a 5 and under almost instantly.

And personally I would never write a review completely rubbishing an anime. It had to have done something right to let me sit all the way through it, otherwise I would've just switched it off. If it makes laugh once in a 3 hr ova I'll make sure I mention that it had some funny moments. eg I hate Gundam Seed Destiny(scene reuse, excess recaps, characters won't stay dead) but the mecha designs are brilliant.

There's a lot of reviews that say this

"Love this show, just awesome, pretty and I love the characters"

WTF? Yeah you love it but could you be any vaguer? GTFO don't waste my bandwidth. seriously if animesuki ever does a review page there should be a minimum word limit for reviews. 300 words at least, and either just a positive or negative response instead of numbers. To weed out serious reviewers as opposed to wankers padding stats.

Js2756
2007-04-16, 09:55
There are huge issues with animenfo's review system, but before I get into it, I would like a justification as to why it's top 100 list is not "accurate". It is obviously a top 100 list using animenfo's own algorithm based on reviews of its own site. So yes, based off of the methodology used to generate the list, it is indeed accurate. Just because it doesn't line up with your tastes, and has issues with skewing towards newer shows, does not make it inaccurate. Ironically, I have argued that it is unfair to older shows on their boards to no avail.

Issues:
1) Most reviews are rated to fit within animenfo's review structure, as in, people will artificially rank a particular aspect of a show 10, just to maintain a high score, instead of defaulting to ignore that aspect of a show.

2) Reviews are not heavily moderated. As long as your review has over approximately one line of body, it'll probably be retained.

3) The majority of people who actually review are usually on the extremes, so reviews tend towards 10s or 1s.

4) Most people are entirely way too generous with regards to their ratings.

5) There are more people who review on the high side than the low side. Personally, I find the reviews that bash a show generally more informative than those that don't.

6) Most reviewers don't stick to a personally standard with which to review anime.

7) Most reviewers are too lazy to explain why they like or dislike stuff.

8) A lot of reviews are only there to boost top 200 ratings.

I'd like to see animenfo borrow from anidb, where there are peer reviews of reviews, so if your review sucks, people will rate it appropriately. Consequently, there are significantly less reviews there than on animenfo.

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-05-31, 15:18
I also notice viewers who tend to be only familiar with new ones just give 'em all like 10's while others have seen some good 90s animes rate them pretty justly ( not 10's around like 7-8s).

Fanboy/girl behavior is just more prevalent for the newer ones so I guses it's another bias.

bigsocce
2007-12-17, 09:41
2-3 years ago, animenfo was the 'it' site to find new anime to watch. I remember checking out the top 200 anime and see what anime on that list I haven't watch.

However, the last 2 years, it has become a joke because reviews are deleted left and right. As a result, more and more people migrate to other websites and fewer people write reviews anymore.

For the year 2006, only 2-3 anime makes it to the top 200 anime list.

For the year 2007, none.

Even Code Geass isn't among the top 200 anime list.



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okay, rant is over.

Disagree? Agree?

Kamui4356
2007-12-17, 09:55
2-3 years ago, animenfo was the 'it' site to find new anime to watch. I remember checking out the top 200 anime and see what anime on that list I haven't watch.

However, the last 2 years, it has become a joke because reviews are deleted left and right. As a result, more and more people migrate to other websites and fewer people write reviews anymore.

For the year 2006, only 2-3 anime makes it to the top 200 anime list.

For the year 2007, none.

Even Code Geass isn't among the top 200 anime list.



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okay, rant is over.

Disagree? Agree?

That site was never relevent. It always sucked, as reviews were usually written by either fanboys giving the series a perfect 10 or haters giving the series a 1. Maybe 5% of the reviews even made an attempt at objectivity. If they started moderating those fanboy reviews, leaving only the more objective ones, it can only be an improvement. Now if they're just doing it to new series and not cleaning up the ones they already have, it will skew the ratings more towards the older series, but that's not a huge issue. Just consider them unreliable for all series prior to enacting this new policy and ignore their top 200 list.

Mistacloudstrife
2007-12-17, 09:56
I always avoided animenfo. I usually just read a summary or anime blog to see if it sparks my interests. Or maybe try out a few episodes of random animes I've never heard of before. Or even come over here to animesuki and check out which animes have the highest dl/ul stats. If it's popular, it should be worth checking out. =P

anti-random
2007-12-17, 09:56
i kinda of have to agree with what your saying with animeinfo but like you said people have been migrating to other sites and I was one of them.

tripperazn
2007-12-17, 10:02
Yeah, I've noticed the exact same problem. Kenshin and Kiminozo have dominated the rankings ever since my first visit to the site about 3 years ago. Back then, there were reviews added every week, even to older series like Love Hina and Evangelion. Now, the newer series have reviews every month at best.

It used to be a great site due to the ranking system and that's what made it popular, but the cut-throat rankings probably cut short the life-span of the site.

Case and Point: My first visit to Evangelion's Review Section
I think we can all agree that this is a love or hate series. It's just that controversial. Most of us love it, some hate it to death. However, what I saw were extremely polarized rankings. Most (70%) gave it straight 10's, while virtually all others rate it below 5, sometimes with straight ones.

It was basically all about using these to slightly shift the average to slightly increase or decrease the rankings. The users themselves even admit in the review that they didn't think it deserved all 10s.

Not only does this render the rankings useless in terms of objectivity, it's also extremely annoying. When Eva was given a 1, you can see the fanboys creating new accounts and rating 10 to compensate.

Vexx
2007-12-17, 11:02
The "fanboy" factor makes most of these sorts of reviews impossible to take seriously -- it even corrupts some of the discussion here at AS. I've *never* found the animefo site useful for rating anything as it was always obviously just a "phanboi warzone" -- mostly just to research the existence or some minor information of anime when the other sites don't cough up. Then again, I've stopped using ANN as well for related reasons: either the information isn't useful or the information is so biased as to be not useful.