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Omg I can't believe it's been subbed! I can't wait till the download finishes cuz I *really* wanna watch it!
Omg I can't believe it's been subbed! I can't wait till the download finishes cuz I *really* wanna watch it!
Umm....what's it about?
Umm....what's it about?
You mean you haven't heard of it?!
Wow. You must live a pretty sheltered life.
Umm....what's it about?
Jasconius has a review up--can't tell if it'll be good or not, but I'll check out the first episode of just about anything:
http://www.jascii.net/newanime/jascii.php?jascii_view=132
In short, mahou shoujo...
Jasconius has a review up--can't tell if it'll be good or not, but I'll check out the first episode of just about anything:
http://www.jascii.net/newanime/jascii.php?jascii_view=132
In short, mahou shoujo...
Okay, thanks for the information! As for the sheltered life thing.....oh never mind. I was just curious in any case. I've seen it here in Japan, but I didn't know the name of it.....I may watch it later as I am keeping up with 20 anime series right now.
Diedrupo
2004-02-15, 00:48
sounds like the kind of mahou shoujo anime that I don't like (the ones where there's a grand plot with a master villain and evil army that the magical girl heroines have to defeat). I much prefer slice of life style magical girl shows like himechan no ribbon instead. :/
Dragosmore
2004-02-15, 00:52
Allow me to give a short synopsis (btw, I'm not from ChiZ :P *hinthint* another group is doing it too, unreleased yet):
Nagisa Misumi and Yukishiro Honoka are normal middle schoolers living a normal life. Nagisa is big with sports, especially lacrosse and Honoka is a scientific genius. The thing is, Nagisa is liked by girls much to her disposition (poor Nagisa) and Honoka is liked by the boys. Over the past week, shooting stars have been falling down in their little town they live in. On the day of the first episode, one shooting star lands into Nagisa's room and Honoka finds a glowing box in the shed in her garden.
Spoiler of ep1 continues below:
Why! If it isn't two little magical shoujo cell-phone-creature-things from the Garden of Light! Meppuru Mepu and Mippuru Mipu!
Meppuru and Mippuru both take Nagisa and Honoka to a place of wish-granting where they meet their enemy who's trying to get a special Stone from them. Information about this stone is heard of in episode 2, so I won't so anything now. Anyway, the evil guy captures Meppuru who's then freed by Nagisa. Then, the evil guy gets reaaaaaly angry and summons an angry air spirit. ZAKENAAAAAA~~~! Meppuru tells the two to transform by swiping the Queen card in the cellphone-like things that Meppuru and Mippuru live in. And now we have...
Emissary of Light, Cure Black!
Emissary of Light, Cure White!
Together, they're Pretty Cure!
"Servant of Darkness... it's time for you to go home!"
Zakena possesses a roller coaster car and goes after the girls. Together, they do a combining attack and defeat him. Pisard vanishes to where they dont know and wonders just who these people are. Mippuru and Meppuru give the title of emissary and grant the powers of Pretty Cure to Honoka and Nagisa and now they'll find alongside them to stop the destruction of this world by the Dark Zone!
Classical Mahou Shoujo. Look forward to my groups release too ^^
I don't think they're available yet to download, are they? ^^;
I'm going to download it! I love their costumes. It looks like a cute mahou shoujo series.
i might have to go watch it now
ONE OF THEM PLAYS LACROSSE
!!!!!WOOT!!!!
P.S. im a lacrosse goalie and i have never seen lacrosse in anime
JustAnotherFan
2004-02-15, 01:22
I don't think they're available yet to download, are they? ^^;
You could have checked yourself, no? :) Or is AnimeSuki that complicated? ;)
Anyway: Pretty Cure (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/353.html)
The first episode was interesting...nothing extraordinary, it has all the mahou shoujo staples. Although Precure gets bonus points for having a bad guy who used to be a member of KISS :)
The talking cellphones with what look like debit cards that give them their powers definitely give this show a more 'modern' feel. I like Nasiga already since she plays lacrosse--she's the typical genki mahou shoujo heroine, kind of reminds me of Hime-chan from Hime-chan no Ribon. Although the mascots are annoying so far, hopefully they get a little more personality. And as a Urusei Yatsura fan having Konoha's dog named Shutaro cracked me up (although I'm sure it's just a coincidence).
It looks like the KISS guy is the main bad guy, but at the end of episode 1, we don't have much idea what's going on or why he wants the cell phone/mascots--I just hope all the battles don't end with "black thunder" and "white thunder" blowing up the bad guys (giant roller coaster, vaccuum, toaster, or whatever) or this could get really old quickly. I'm hoping the debit card looking things are like Clow Cards in CCS, where different cards give you different powers--then there's the potential for there to actually be some thought required to defeat the bad guys.
I'll keep watching to see if episode 2 explains more, and because I've always wondered who would win a smackdown between magical girls and a giant vaccuum. These are the kind of enemies Pixy Misa would come up with :)
Also, ChiZ's font choice was nice and easy to read, but the watermark in the top right was a little distracting at times...but hey, it's free, so I shouldn't complain, right?
You could have checked yourself, no? :) Or is AnimeSuki that complicated? ;)
Anyway: Pretty Cure (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/353.html)
Oh, I'm saying that because I never saw it on the front page.. ^^ But maybe I missed it. Sorry!
I'm happy it's released though.
chickenballs
2004-02-15, 22:08
can someone tell me how to find out your Streamload Account if your with OtakuSavior.com
I just watched it, and I kinda like it! Sure, it's a cheesey magical girl show. Sure, they have cute mascots (who I found cute despites their names being so close to the word 'nipple'), cell phones, AND cards so it's obviously trying to market some toys, but these magical girls can actually kick a lot of ass. And I like their outfits. And it's for once nicely animated. This is way better than Tokyo Mew Mew or even Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch.
:) I'll be watching this series.
Kempis Curious
2004-02-16, 00:25
Yes, I think the animation on this series was given a lot of time and effort... unusual for a mahou shoujo.
It was also fun to see all of the traditional magical girl stuff: named attacks, cute alien sidekicks, magical accesories (which appear to have been already manufactured for the fans), nude transformation sequences, etc.
I start to wonder if there isn't a lolicon audience also being targeted... I understand Sailor Moon with the busty 15 year olds but not thin 12 year olds. :(
-k
I start to wonder if there isn't a lolicon audience also being targeted... I understand Sailor Moon with the busty 15 year olds but not thin 12 year olds. :(
-k
Since they didn't exactly glaze over the nudity with bright colorful lights and instead just made them metallic, I guess it's a possibility but you never know. I don't think they are.. But at least this one is being the least obvious about it if it is. Don't watch UFO Princess..
Go-lytely
2004-02-16, 01:24
The one thing missing from the show is the love interest. Maybe he will show up later on. The animation was much better than expected too. However, Tokyo Mew Mew and Melody Mermaid still left a better impression on me after the first ep.
babbito2k
2004-02-16, 01:34
Don't watch UFO Princess..
UFO Princess Valkyrie is not mahou shoujo.
>< I don't share anyone's concerns about fanservice. Most mahou shoujo series have little if any. I think Cure Black's bike shorts kind of make the point about looking up the girls' skirts and so on.
Handy facts:
Nagisa and Yukishiro are 2nd-year middle schoolers. They are meant to be roughly 14 years old.
The show airs on Sunday mornings at 8:30.
There are Precure cards and toys coming onto the market.
Princess_of_Hell
2004-02-16, 01:58
I can see the word LICENSED and 4Kids coming to this wonderful and cute series soon. It won't be long before this is licensed in the US and with 4Kids trying to attract more girls to "anime", I won't be surprised if 4Kids is the one who will probably be licensing it if it ever does get licensed.
This is one of my top series that I am currently watching. The intro song is also very catchy. :heh:
DekaMaster
2004-02-16, 02:36
I can see the word LICENSED and 4Kids coming to this wonderful and cute series soon. It won't be long before this is licensed in the US and with 4Kids trying to attract more girls to "anime", I won't be surprised if 4Kids is the one who will probably be licensing it if it ever does get licensed.
This is one of my top series that I am currently watching. The intro song is also very catchy. :heh:
Let's all hope and pray 4kids doesn't go anywhere near this one.
chamelean75
2004-02-16, 04:42
I just watched it. I really like the animation. The series seems realy cute. hehe. The only thing that seems kinda weird for me is in the ending credits how the 2 main characters are cheerleading to the word love. What does love have to do with the anime? The ending credits were pretty funny though, I liked how the bad guys danced by the screen, that was my favorite part.
aceangel
2004-02-16, 23:19
I like how they they've disguised the series to get people to buy stuff ;) Nice way to get girls to buy those cellphone devices with a card reader ;)
Kempis Curious
2004-02-17, 19:08
I like how they they've disguised the series to get people to buy stuff ;) Nice way to get girls to buy those cellphone devices with a card reader ;)
Thbbb. That's been going on since magical girl anime started back in the Paleolithic. The main characters transformed with the aid of plastic pink rocks and deer antlers back then.
-k
babbito2k
2004-02-17, 19:34
I like how they they've disguised the series to get people to buy stuff ;) Nice way to get girls to buy those cellphone devices with a card reader ;)
You 're just envious 'cause your mom won't buy you one...
RyuHayabusa
2004-02-17, 19:46
well, I watched it and it was weird for me. I guess I need to watch 2-3 more episodes of this before i can make up my mind. Love the costume design though. ^_^
Princess_of_Hell
2004-02-17, 21:14
I want the costumes. They look so fun and sexy. :heh:
* wishes she was back in high school again * :heh:
Wait, I will make them!!! :thinker:
Leo_Otaku
2004-02-17, 22:01
I was going to post about it. COOL it is being subbed. I was SOOO glad it took over Nadja's apot man that show pissed me off taking the place of Doremi :( This show looks great tho. Too bad Ojamajo didn't start airing now we could have enjoyed more episodes.
RyuHayabusa
2004-02-17, 22:56
I want the costumes. They look so fun and sexy. :heh:
* wishes she was back in high school again * :heh:
Wait, I will make them!!! :thinker:
If the show becomes popular, believe me, you will see these costumes all over the north american conventions lol XDD
aceangel
2004-02-17, 23:03
You 're just envious 'cause your mom won't buy you one...
LOL, so true, those things sure are interesting. I also wonder what happens if I swipe my college ID or my grocery club card on it ;)
Dragosmore
2004-02-19, 19:18
Well, my group's (Shoujo-Anime's) Futari wa Pretty Cure episode 1 is out! ^_^ Enjoy :)
DekaMaster
2004-02-19, 20:53
Well, my group's (Shoujo-Anime's) Futari wa Pretty Cure episode 1 is out! ^_^ Enjoy :)
yes and I downloaded it just now YAY you did a great job
Leo_Otaku
2004-02-20, 11:30
It looks good I will d/l i when i get home. I'm at skool right now ^-^"
Just watched the first episode and boy, it's really cheesy, bright and silly. I found it kinda boring to be honest, but at least the ending sequence was entertaining. What made me laugh though, was the fact that those two mascot thingies were voiced by two of the best seiyuu around- Seki Tomokazu and Akiko Hiramatsu. They sound really strange here............
Dragosmore
2004-02-20, 11:59
What made me laugh though, was the fact that those two mascot thingies were voiced by two of the best seiyuu around- Seki Tomokazu and Akiko Hiramatsu. They sound really strange here............
I have to agree with you there. Akiko Hiramatsu, who played YUKARI in Azu, sounds quite different from the Meppuru here >.>;;
I have to agree with you there. Akiko Hiramatsu, who played YUKARI in Azu, sounds quite different from the Meppuru here >.>;;
whoops, I'll have to backtrack a bit here........Meppuru was actually played by Akiko Yajima(Dorothy Waynewright in Big O,Asumi in Twin Spica)........must have got a bit cross-eyed when reading the end credits :heh: . But she still sounds strange.
Dragosmore
2004-02-20, 15:25
whoops, I'll have to backtrack a bit here........Meppuru was actually played by Akiko Yajima(Dorothy Waynewright in Big O,Asumi in Twin Spica)........must have got a bit cross-eyed when reading the end credits :heh: . But she still sounds strange.
That makes a lot more sense ;) I thought Mippuru sounded a bit like Paffy from Ryu Knight and gasp, shock, Akiko Yajima did seiyuu for Paffy =)
"You're pretty popular with the girls"
LOL :heh:
Does anyone else think they're being set up as a couple?
And they do make a pretty cute couple...
Kay Hearts
2004-02-26, 05:12
I watched the first ep and so far it´s a cute little show, I love majo shoujo but still I think there has to be some speciall point in the story to keep me interested so I think I need to watch more eps and then finally decide if I definatedly like it or not, because so far there´s nothing new in it ^^u
From what I've heard, I don't think there's another Mahou Shoujo show which is a blatantly yuri yet sort of played as a joke on the main characters...
It's sounding more and more interesting...
bluemist
2004-02-26, 09:44
I heard in another forum it's very popular among Japanese viewers, but what's the fuss? I found it so typical. Maybe in that way it attracts viewers I guess.
Well it attracted me into it. They're all "Pretty Cute". But I'll pass up on the furry creatures. I don't like mahou shoujo's pet sidekicks.
There is something about the ending song that's so catchy. Make me want to sing along. ^^
chamelean75
2004-03-06, 02:43
I love the ending song. I just don't understand why it's about love. I love it when the bad guys dance by, it's hilarious. :)
There's something about it that I really liked. ^^; I think it might be the fact that the two heroines aren't the typical shoujo heroines. I loved their costumes too! And.. It's just.. I don't know. There's something about it that makes it different than a lot of mahou shoujo anime, but I don't know yet. The ennemy looks ridiculous which adds a funny side to it. :X I'm a huge fan of mahou shoujo anime, though.. So maybe I can't judge it correctly.
Quarkboy
2004-03-06, 17:32
There's something about it that I really liked. ^^; I think it might be the fact that the two heroines aren't the typical shoujo heroines. I loved their costumes too! And.. It's just.. I don't know. There's something about it that makes it different than a lot of mahou shoujo anime, but I don't know yet. The ennemy looks ridiculous which adds a funny side to it. :X I'm a huge fan of mahou shoujo anime, though.. So maybe I can't judge it correctly.
I too am a large fan of mahou shoujo, and I totally agree. This series SEEMS cliche, overdone, and trite from a basic description, but there is something about it that makes me love it, and I don't know what.
Perhaps it is the potential for this show to do what the great mahou shoujo series do, build a large collection of really likable characters. Just looking at the ending "dance", we see that there is a large selection of classmates/ lacross team members, and science club members; all hopefully with interesting personalities.
Remember, the great mahou shoujo series were built on the supporting characters: CCS wasn't great because of Sakura, it was great because of Sakura's friends. Sailor Moon relied on the interactions between the Senshi, not simply on Usagi's idiocy.
We have yet to really see much of the supporting cast yet in this anime, but I have a gut feeling that we will soon.
(Also, I'm guessing we might see another 5 Cure's by the end too. They've already refered to the 7 jewels (that appear in the opening), 5 of which the enemy has already captured, so I assume the 2 that are left are Cure white and black. I wonder what the other jewels will be for?)
Personally I think Pretty Cure isn't made to be a serious series. ^^;; I mean, I have the feeling that it's going to be humorous.. When I saw the pictures I wasn't really interested in it. I guess it's when I watched it that I really started to like it a lot..
I agree with you that in magical girl shows, personalities are very important. ^-^;; I guess that's what I liked about Pretty Cure too so far. There's a lot of supporting characters.. And it seems to be about middle school or high school life. I suppose it's not just about magical girl-ness. :P
Well, you say that Usagi is stupid.. But personally I disagree. Usagi is one of my favorite anime characters.. And I think that one big mistake people make when they judge mahou shoujo characters is to compare them to Usagi. I don't think Usagi and the girl from Tokyo Mew Mew have anything in common, by example.. But I've heard many people compare the two characters. Another example is Momo [ was that her name..? x.x;; ] from Wedding Peach.. She's been compared to Usagi so much, but I really don't think they're similar.. I guess Mahou Shoujo series and the characters are judged too easily by people.
Ahaha.. I keep wanting to point and laugh at Piesard's hair style. He looks like came out of a 80s rock band. ^^
Honkie_McGee
2004-03-06, 23:56
Perhaps it is the potential for this show to do what the great mahou shoujo series do, build a large collection of...
Merchandise?
...really likable characters.
Oh. I knew that. :)
...so far there´s nothing new in it...
You mean you don't consider a possessed monster rollercoaster new? :p
aniforever
2004-03-07, 03:20
wahh pretty cure is erm funnie i guess. iono the two man character is kinda like tomoyo and sakura one sporty the other smart. just in this one the smart one also fights which is kinda cool. hehe it's funnie how one girl get's admirers from guys and the other from girls. the only thing i'm interested in this anime is the humor and relationship. since i'm a fan of yuri if there's even a slight scent of yuri then i'll watch it other then that i rather watch naruto for the action. though seriously if they continue with the black thunder white thunder line for each ep i will stop watching this so fast.
ChibiDusk
2004-03-07, 03:40
two words...cell phones
*shakes head*
Maybe it's the trend now... Magical cosmetique set and wand is so last millenium. :heh:
ChibiDusk
2004-03-07, 04:00
hehe, it's so true! Lol, I'll probably watcha few more episode before making a
final decision on wether to watch the whole series or not. Good animation atleast!
:D
LoveOfAnime
2004-03-08, 04:32
Having seen the first episode I like it.........Think of it this way, A next Generation Sailor Moon type show. Happen to love BSSM. I have not seen eps. 2 yet as it just finished dl and it is late. Will view it tomorrowand let you all know, but so far I like it..... :thinker:
Firstly, I, too, enjoy Sailor Moon(at least the uncut jap version). And I believe Usagi is only a stubid crybaby at first, from what I've seen. But that's another series for another thread...
Anyway, I love this so far. Especially the way the girls look when they're fighting, the way they react to their increased strength. Nagisa, the sporty one, acts like I'd expect, like someone who'd just taken training weights off after a long time. She jumps, punches, etc., but overextends and struggles to compensate. But Honoka seems to act a little weird. Sort of spaced out andoff-balance, like she's being pulled around like a string bean rather than actually moving of her own accord. She looks like she's in zero gravity or something. Weird.
BTW, before shoujo ai discussions go further than the few stray comments, I'd just like to say that, if you listen to the closing song, it talks about trying to get a GUY. The "love" is not talking about those two. Also, the opening suggests one of them has a certain guy in mind. Yes, there's obviously shoujo-ai humor, and I find it hilarious(so popular with the girls...lol), but that doesn't mean there's even any real suggestion of a relationship between the two main characters. I just don't get how any series with two major characters of the same gender can get reinterpreted as shojo-ai/shonen-ai. At least Mermaid Melody is safe. With one girl pining for her guy, one holding back her affection for the same guy, and the thrid doing everything but tying her guy down, it's hard to imagine anything weird there. I'm not trying to complain, but please keep things in perspective.
Also, mahou-shojo transformation, or any other kind of nudity, with young girls does not mean it's "loli". Nudity's not quite as taboo there as here, and it's not automatically ecci if there's skin. Frankly, I think we in the US are a little too preoccupied with that, though just a little. Rizelmine is loli, and funny as heck. PreCure is just normal magical girl.
LoveOfAnime
2004-03-08, 14:43
Hey all,
Eps. 2 is as good if not even better........I definitely like this show. :thinker: Did anyone happen to see the reference to Sailor Moon?? I don't know if I should tell you but I guess I will. Did anyone else notice Misumisan's bedspread???? Yes it is covered in RABBITS!!!! Just like Usagi's. This caught my attention right off. Coincidence??? Maybe??? Maybe Not??? We'll have to wait and see.
Princess_of_Hell
2004-03-08, 21:21
The manga just started in the April issue of Nakayoshi and it's way different than the anime but it's Pretty Cure. Mermaid Melody looks like it is coming to an end either next month or the month after (all 7 mermaids plus Aqua Regina are in this chapter).
Princess_of_Hell
2004-03-09, 18:53
Episode 6 is out, in RAW form, in case people wanted to know.
Quarkboy
2004-03-10, 01:47
Episode 4 and 5 were really great (I watched them raw...)
I especially liked
when in ep 4 they fought in the museum. A little insane, but good clean fun. I was sad to see Peisard go in ep 5 though.... I wanted him to stick around longer!
Dragosmore
2004-03-10, 01:51
As a note, I'm sure your all aware of. The subbers of Pretty Cure might be slow, but that's because of real life stuff. Plus, after translation has been done for a week or more, when people have midterms and schoolwork, things get a bit slowed down and stuff :P We are continuing, so please try not to get too impatient because we try to bring you some of the best quality subs out there :)
LoveOfAnime
2004-03-10, 03:35
Origanally Posted by Dragosmore
:P We are continuing, so please try not to get too impatient because we try to bring you some of the best quality subs out there
Thank You for all of the hard work in making them good!!! :)
BTW, before shoujo ai discussions go further than the few stray comments, I'd just like to say that, if you listen to the closing song, it talks about trying to get a GUY. The "love" is not talking about those two. Also, the opening suggests one of them has a certain guy in mind. Yes, there's obviously shoujo-ai humor, and I find it hilarious(so popular with the girls...lol), but that doesn't mean there's even any real suggestion of a relationship between the two main characters. I just don't get how any series with two major characters of the same gender can get reinterpreted as shojo-ai/shonen-ai. At least Mermaid Melody is safe. With one girl pining for her guy, one holding back her affection for the same guy, and the thrid doing everything but tying her guy down, it's hard to imagine anything weird there. I'm not trying to complain, but please keep things in perspective.
Well I wasn't saying that the main characters were not interested in guys, or even that they were actually gay.
What I meant was that it was amusing that their situation created the appearance of a, well, relationship between them (they're suddenly spending so much time together, have matching accessories, etc.), and that everyone else seemed to be picking up on this and interpeting it the wrong way.
In a sort of "joke's on them" sort of way.
It's also sort of a *wink wink* acknowledgement to the fans who do think they make a cute couple.
Quarkboy
2004-03-10, 04:47
As a note, I'm sure your all aware of. The subbers of Pretty Cure might be slow, but that's because of real life stuff. Plus, after translation has been done for a week or more, when people have midterms and schoolwork, things get a bit slowed down and stuff :P We are continuing, so please try not to get too impatient because we try to bring you some of the best quality subs out there :)
Oh, please don't take the fact that I went and watched RAWs as some kind of insult... I still plan to get your subs when they are ready. Actually, I've been taking Japanese at the college where I go to graduate school and I figured I was at a level where I could basically understand simple Shoujo anime like this one (I've been taking it for almost a year now). And I was pleasantly suprised that I could! Well, enough to figure out a bit more then simply what's going on. Also, I taught myself how to use Winny which is a skill which might come in handy one day. (Yes I know that l33t-raws is releasing them, but they weren't seeded by the time I tried).
Anyway, I really do appreciate both the groups that are subbing Pretty Cure, and would simply remind them that Mahou Shoujo is still in many ways the core of the anime community. You do it a service that cannot be denied! You stand up for the core values in our community: Justice, Freedom, and small, talking animal Mascots. I salute you!
Don Eunuch
2004-03-10, 04:56
Don't you feel embarrassed watching this if you are past 10? I know I am, esp if you are a guy.
The fighting is surprisingly, superior to many other fighting anime. Guess they expect to recoup the $$$ from the sale of merchandise. Any idea if the handphones actually works?
bluemist
2004-03-10, 08:58
For me, there's nothing wrong about a guy watching kiddy mahou shoujo anime. It's just that other people don't realize that anime is just a TV show, and doesn't necessarily reflect the views and characteristics of the viewer.
Just don't go out in public with Pretty Cure handphones or accessories.
Does anyone know the exact proverb Nagisa refers to in the beginning of episode 1?
Dragosmore
2004-03-11, 01:59
Does anyone know the exact proverb Nagisa refers to in the beginning of episode 1?
The proverb she meant to say but messed up is:
爪の垢を煎じて飲む
Tsume no aka wo senjite nomu
Imaginer
2004-03-11, 12:54
Thbbb. That's been going on since magical girl anime started back in the Paleolithic. The main characters transformed with the aid of plastic pink rocks and deer antlers back then.
-k
LOL Deer antlers! :heh:
It seems to me that their transformation powers included some auto fight and acrobatic response powers that seems to make them fight and say stuff without them even thinking to do that.
Somehow, I know this genre is not that appealling to me but... I think it maybe the ending that got me. :D It has been awhile since I last had some sugar coated nonsense.
Don't you feel embarrassed watching this if you are past 10? I know I am, esp if you are a guy.
The fighting is surprisingly, superior to many other fighting anime. Guess they expect to recoup the $$$ from the sale of merchandise. Any idea if the handphones actually works?
I don't see anything wrong with it!
I'm past 10 and female, and I don't feel embarrassed at all. ^^
babbito2k
2004-03-11, 17:02
Don't you feel embarrassed watching this if you are past 10? I know I am, esp if you are a guy.I would feel more embarrassed watching pro "wrestling." People wear t-shirts and hats and even go see the "matches." Not that I really care if people like to do that, but to me that's not sports, it's fantasy. I can't relate to it as well as I relate to the fantasy in a show like Precure.
Thanks Dragosmore. I did some research on the exact phrase and pretty much only found out that it doesn't transfer into English well. I got the drink part though. ^_^;;; Anyone know of a rough translation?
(Also, I'm guessing we might see another 5 Cure's by the end too. They've already refered to the 7 jewels (that appear in the opening), 5 of which the enemy has already captured, so I assume the 2 that are left are Cure white and black. I wonder what the other jewels will be for?)
Interesting idea, but wouldn't the full title Futari wa Pretty Cure indicate that it was just the pair of them? I could easily be way far off here tho. :heh: My Japanese sucks obviously.
Dragosmore
2004-03-11, 22:15
Thanks Dragosmore. I did some research on the exact phrase and pretty much only found out that it doesn't transfer into English well. I got the drink part though. ^_^;;; Anyone know of a rough translation?
Interesting idea, but wouldn't the full title Futari wa Pretty Cure indicate that it was just the pair of them? I could easily be way far off here tho. :heh: My Japanese sucks and I would never claim it to be otherwise. :p
The full title is Futari wa Pretty Cure, as you can see on Shoujo's file names and releases :. A good translation would be The Two of us are Pretty Cure, or Together, we're Pretty Cure
As for the proverb it means like, trying to be like someone much greater than yourself, to do something that they do to become like them >.>;;; i.e to eat like them to become more like them, heh
Quarkboy
2004-03-12, 00:32
Interesting idea, but wouldn't the full title Futari wa Pretty Cure indicate that it was just the pair of them? I could easily be way far off here tho. :heh: My Japanese sucks obviously.
Actually, after watching episode 5 and 6, my idea is clearly wrong, as
Peasard actually has one of the 7 prism stones arond his neck.
mayukhers112
2004-03-16, 10:30
The manga just started in the April issue of Nakayoshi and it's way different than the anime but it's Pretty Cure.
A manga...hmm....sounds pretty good, but I hope the character art is a tad bit better than the anime's. Who's it written by?
Waa, Episode 3 is out, thanks ChiZeTo!
It's still as cute as ever!
The classmates notice Honoko and Nagisa have matching accessories that seem to "ring" to each other when brought into close proximity (oh we know what that implies)...
And Honoko's Grandmother asks Nagisa to "Take care of her granddaughter"
LOL :heh:
This is a great series so far!
GokuJunior
2004-08-14, 15:23
Till now episode 8 is my favourite...
If you see some episodes you'll notice that it isn't so annoying as you thought it were (my case)...
Now I like this anime because it has a good story after all, and...
it's not the same boss all the time commanding Zakena
See a few episodes and then post here...
And that's not all...
Meppuru Mepu and Mippuru Mipu really make me laugh :D
and in each episode you know a little more about their story and home...
mintyfresh
2004-08-14, 16:57
Wow, haven't seen this thread in a while.. :heh:
Well, I adore this anime, and am bent on watching it to the end. It's good to see that more groups are beginning to sub it (though i wish Miyuki's sizes were a bit smaller.. but i shan't complain ^^; ).
I mostly watch this show for the shoujo ai potential (I'm a big shoujo-ai fan, even when the evidence of it is as limited as it is in this series.. :p ), so so far, episode 8 is among my faves as well.
However, though I get the subs, I've taken to getting the raws every week as well, and though we don't see much of Fujimura-kun in later episodes...
Honoka actually gets her own love interest (or at least someone who's interested in her) in Kiriya, which really splits the fandom, even though the majority of fans in Japan still seem to like Honoka+Nagisa. Granted, we're lead to believe that he's killed off in episode 21, but we never really see that happen (perhaps we'll see a return?).
Of course, my shoujo ai hopes for this series are still realistic. If anything, I'm sure the series will end with our two heroines being best friends and nothing more...
*crosses fingers* :innocent:
Oh, and as for Zakena, we haven't heard from him since episode 22 (6 eps ago..), so hopefully, the shape-shifting mass made of apologizing stars is but a distant memory..
Originally posted by Don Eunuch
Don't you feel embarrassed watching this if you are past 10? I know I am, esp if you are a guy.
Why there's nothing wrong in it I feel more embarrassed when watching stuff like This ugly and beautiful world that has more adult content.
If your embarrassed by it then don't tell anyone!
Anyway precure is great one of those animes that u can watch without really thinking. it might be different from other mahjo shoujos because it doesn't really focus on the magic but more on the relationship of the two girls and how different people can get along and become friends when put into a situation, it also focuses more on there school life and how the two react to the others friends.
I love the merchandise!!!!
I would buy the cell phones they are so cute!
why did they have to kill Piscard he was cool u no except for the whole Kiss outfit i wanted them to make him into a good guy!
I'm stil waiting patiently for the good translation subs, so my friends that cannot speak japanese can watch it with me. ^^ I was hoping someone pick up Ojamajo too, another cute show. ^^
why did they have to kill Piscard he was cool u no except for the whole Kiss outfit i wanted them to make him into a good guy!
I know, I was hoping he become sensei longer too, and maybe develop a relationship with the other teacher and become a good guy. ^^
Originally posted by Secca
I know, I was hoping he become sensei longer too, and maybe develop a relationship with the other teacher and become a good guy. ^^
YES!!! thats wat i wanted too :love:
oh well u never know he might come back!
and wats Ojamajo i've never heard of that one.
and wats Ojamajo i've never heard of that one.
Ojamajo Doremi is a maho shojo comedy series about a witch girl. ^^
More detail information site about Ojamo Doremi:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1190
It's made by TOEI, the same company who did the production of Pretty Cure. This their Doremi site:
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/doremi/doremi.html
It's been running since 1999 and now entering the 5th series.
Quarkboy
2004-08-19, 19:32
Fans of Pretty Cure rejoice! Coming soon, it's
Pretty Cure on Ice!
http://www.greenland.co.jp/
If anyone is in Kumamoto, Japan check it out. I guess it's just a show at a theme park though.
http://www.greenland.co.jp/image/prekids.jpg
Nagisa is a perfect match.... Honoka is not too bad either.
Steve the Tribble
2004-08-20, 08:29
I too am a large fan of mahou shoujo, and I totally agree. This series SEEMS cliche, overdone, and trite from a basic description, but there is something about it that makes me love it, and I don't know what.
That's exactly the same with me.
I had a lot of fun watching the first episode (among friends) so I started to download the series.
Many groups started subbing Pretty Cure and I think I chose the right one: ChiZeTo. The files are at good quality and the subtitles are very good to read. But unfortunately the've stopped subbing.
Does anyone know why?
I've downloaded the fifth episode from Miyuki no Tamari and was not as sattisfied as I'd been with the work of ChiZeTo.
Can anyone recommend me a groups Pretty Cure fansubs with good quality and good to read subtitles?
Does anyone know, why ChiZeTo don't resume work on Pretty Cure? Or are they just working on ep5?
Can anyone recommend me a groups Pretty Cure fansubs with good quality and good to read subtitles?
Shoujo-Anime are always good check them out ;p
http://www.boomspeed.com/kj1980/precure_main_target.JPG
Makes you think, doesn't it?
NoSanninWa
2004-10-04, 23:21
For those of us who don't read japanese could you clarify? Does this mean that Pretty Cure is recommended for a primary audience of boys of age 19-30 and girls of ages 4-9? That sounds totally wacked!
No. it means that there's ALOT of boys with 18+ who love this girly kiddie anime then girls aged 18+
And there's ALOT of lil girls 4 to 10 who love this anime then lil 4 - 10 years old boys
For those of us who don't read japanese could you clarify? Does this mean that Pretty Cure is recommended for a primary audience of boys of age 19-30 and girls of ages 4-9? That sounds totally wacked!
Sure.
Representation of colors
Blue: Main target audience (male)
Red: Main target audience (female)
Light Blue: Sub-target audience (male)
Light Red: Sub-target audience (female)
The bar graph
Main target audience (male): ages 19~30
Sub-target audience (male): ages 16~18 & 31~35
Main target audience (female): ages 4~9
Sub-target audience (female): ages 10~12
What you get from this graph:
This anime is made to catered towards young girls....and whether the animators had this mind is open to debate but, it is obvious that male otakus will watch this anime as well.
Well according to the statistic, i think its true because im also part of side of cute lil girly anime fandom. However, i know im too old to watch anime of this kind, The reason love this anime is because of the character design more then the story it self.
I donno about the others out there cause im an animator and all i do is watching anime for the search of ideas. maybe the majority of the old guys in that stat are all animators. hehe..
the majority of japanese otakus are old males wich a job as Animator or mangaka.
Actualy, ive never met a dude loving this kind of anime. mostly they are into mechas, monsters and black magic stuff but not in cute schoolatic bossoming girls with cute animals and magic transformation with flashy girlly outfits.
for males 16 to 18 i can understand to pay it out but 19-30! they get up early to watch a saturday morning cartoon!
bluemist
2004-10-05, 03:53
Hi. I'm male and I'm 21.
Nothing wrong with that though. And now I just got reminded what I said months ago in this same thread:
For me, there's nothing wrong about a guy watching kiddy mahou shoujo anime. It's just that other people don't realize that anime is just a TV show, and doesn't necessarily reflect the views and characteristics of the viewer.
Just don't go out in public with Pretty Cure handphones or accessories.
I just found out in some local TV feature that some part of Pretty Cure animation production is actually being made here in Toei Philippines. They never went into details though. I wonder if the Filipinos who worked on it get recognized through the episode's ending credits, but anyway for me that's quite interesting to discover.
Well according to the statistic, i think its true because im also part of the male side of cute lil girly anime fandom. However, i know im too old to watch anime of this kind, The reason love this anime is because of the character design more then the story it self.
I donno about the others out there cause im an animator and all i do is watching anime for the search of ideas. maybe the majority of the old guys in that stat are all animators. hehe..
the majority of japanese otakus are old males wich a job as Animator or mangaka.
Actualy, ive never met a dude loving this kind of anime. mostly they are into mechas, monsters and black magic stuff but not in cute schoolatic bossoming girls with cute animals and magic transformation with flashy girlly outfits.
One audience not directly targeted, but which is indirectly reached, are parents who watch the episodes with their children. That can bring viewers in the 30-40+ age range to the series, and also put older individuals into a bt download session to get something that's primarily for the kids to enjoy. When the kids see all the cool new anime you can get for them to watch, suddenly watching reruns on cartoon network just doesn't cut it anymore. If interest forces the kids to deal with subs rather than dubs out of necessity, without realizing it they are practicing their reading.
without realizing it they are practicing their reading.
Also the learn of the japanese and english and the japanese culture. I rarely see kids addicted on watching discovery channel then anime these days.
silviachan
2004-10-06, 06:45
Must say I'm liking this anime a lot, and Nagisa reminds me of Ran (Gals) :)
Stories are simple but quite interesting and I'm crazy for the opening!!
sorry blue mist its just that i thought no one would get up and watch a saturday cartoon unless they are already up, I mean i can understand parents watching it with their kids and all........ but hey I can't say anything cause i am really out of the target range
Edit: i wasn't talking about ppl on fansubs (didn't think of them) :p
GustaveElazul
2004-10-15, 07:35
How often are episodes released? I looked at the section for Pretty Cure and it almost looks like its dead.
http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/353.html
Is anyone still working on this series?
There's 1 or 2 episode released every month :hmm:
GustaveElazul
2004-10-15, 07:47
Ah no wonder, I expected them to be weekly. Thanks for the info.
The episodes are weekly. They're up to 30+ now. It's just that every fansub group died as they reached episode 10 or so. One group released 11, and that's it. No further fansubbed PreCure. I hope a group speedsubs episodes 12-30 just so we can see them (and understand them). :p
The Oiseau
BF has been on a pause, cause Clem has been busy with his own projets...
tho he informed me that he can continue TLing it 'soon'...
the series has alredy ended to my knowledge (I can be wrog tho) with 28 + 1 (29) episodes...
hope we will get subs going again soon...
for Shoujo and MnT I cannot tell why the heck they haven't continued...
they seemed to have stopped when whe stopped, dunno why's that...
Quarkboy
2004-10-16, 06:39
fyi, MnT have not stopped... 9 will be released shortly, 10, 11, and 12 have been translated.
There was a lull, primarily because our translator went back to Japan for 6 weeks (though we did manage to get some eps done long distance).
The pace should pick up again. Sorry about the delays.
Dragosmore
2004-10-16, 09:22
Same goes for Shoujo. Most of our staff are always busy, so the process of preparing 1 episode tends to take a good deal of time.
BF has been on a pause, cause Clem has been busy with his own projets...
tho he informed me that he can continue TLing it 'soon'...
the series has alredy ended to my knowledge (I can be wrog tho) with 28 + 1 (29) episodes...
hope we will get subs going again soon...
for Shoujo and MnT I cannot tell why the heck they haven't continued...
they seemed to have stopped when whe stopped, dunno why's that...
Partly my fault, I went missing for basically 2 weeks, I'm trying to reprioritze stuff so I can get time for fansubbing
deathsvengeance
2004-10-25, 22:21
I'm glad to hear that this series hasn't been forgotten about. I've been anxiously awaiting new fansubs.
babbito2k
2004-11-19, 21:35
Very happy to watch #12 this evening. Very nice episode, except for the dream thing with Honoka, which went totally out of bounds... Some really interesting stuff with Honoka's grandmother. Looks like we will be getting some backstory on her.
It would be nice if this new release puts a halt to all these "when is the next episode coming out?" posts. I refuse to even think that a charming series like this will end up only partially fansubbed, and I thank the various groups who have done their best to bring us the show.
Princess_of_Hell
2004-11-20, 21:39
I hope that they continue to fansub this because I have episodes 13-40 as RAWs. It is a really good series, as far as I have seen it. Everyone should watch it!!! :heh: :p
It would be nice if this new release puts a halt to all these "when is the next episode coming out?" posts. I refuse to even think that a charming series like this will end up only partially fansubbed, and I thank the various groups who have done their best to bring us the show.
well, at least BF will be finishing what it has started at all costs...
Quarkboy
2004-12-08, 21:46
well, at least BF will be finishing what it has started at all costs...
As will Miyuki-no-Tamari... I kept silent until I was sure, but I can officially say that I have wrested control over the project (well, willingly), and will personally make sure it continues at a much steadier pace from now on. This quick release of 10-13 was due to various dissapearences of a few members, which caused, um, backup. But we are clear of said backup now, and we should continue with a steady pace of no faster then 1 episode a week (prolly more like 2 a month, we'll see).
On other news, starting from episode 14, all of MnT's releases will be encoded from the R2 dvd's, thus improving video quality a bazillion percent.
Also, from episode 14 onward, the project will be a joint between Miyuki-no-Tamari and Aoi-Anime, so as to create a better product overall, faster. Note that the translator, typesetter, and editor (that's me!) will be the same, so there shouldn't be much noticable difference to the product.
I hope everyone enjoys these releases, and the show gets really good around episode 20-24 ish, IMO. Well, I'm a sucker for hopeless love stories...
Crimsonmon
2004-12-09, 07:02
http://img55.exs.cx/img55/4294/maxheart8vm.jpg
There goes the unique-ness of having just two of them on the team.
In case you can't tell, she's called Cure Pink.
Cure pink? o_O
Cure Black > Cure Pink
i actually still have to watch ep 11, 12 and 13...and 14 (14 will be out soon for you leechers =) )
i just encode the stuff, distro and store the eps XD
time to do a little pretty cure marathon?
Dragosmore
2004-12-09, 10:46
Oh my god. Shoot me in the head. I'm so glad I'm not going be translating 27+ of Pretty Cure or anything beyond that point now after seeing this horribleness of what's to come and what has come already.
well, at least BF will be finishing what it has started at all costs...
Your signature seems to suggest otherwise...
Quarkboy
2004-12-09, 15:33
Oh my god. Shoot me in the head. I'm so glad I'm not going be translating 27+ of Pretty Cure or anything beyond that point now after seeing this horribleness of what's to come and what has come already.
I, on the other hand, have an absurdly high tolerance for girlyness, and will persevere through the darkest of brightly coloredness through any crap this show throws at me, be it hyper-annoying royal pain in the ass Porun, or whoever this Cure-Pink character turns out to be (probably a Chibi-usa clone, judging from the character design).
(As long as they don't change my Honoka, I'll be happy).
Your signature seems to suggest otherwise...
yes...
unfortunately, as MnT passed by, Clem lost interest and we haven't got another translator in our sleeve, so that's it then...
I would have wanted to continue, but I cannot translate (well, I can, but not on a good pace)...
but I think this isn't a big loss...
cause our releases weren't very HQ, or am I wrong?
so MnT everyone would prolly have gone with MnT anyways...
but thanks for everyone who watched ours!
cya
Quarkboy
2004-12-09, 21:55
yes...
unfortunately, as MnT passed by, Clem lost interest and we haven't got another translator in our sleeve, so that's it then...
I would have wanted to continue, but I cannot translate (well, I can, but not on a good pace)...
but I think this isn't a big loss...
cause our releases weren't very HQ, or am I wrong?
so MnT everyone would prolly have gone with MnT anyways...
but thanks for everyone who watched ours!
cya
You just made me sad.... I feel like I've killed you. Do not despair, have hope! There's always more unsubbed anime to sub...
Quarkboy
2005-12-25, 01:41
It's the final episode!
In honor of its release, I'm running a silly little contest.
Rules are simple: First person to identify the episode number for each of the 107 Arienai's in the omake credits video wins. The prize is a special not for sale pretty cure card (K-05), with this picture on it:
http://www.arienai.com/1280_WP5.JPG
NoSanninWa
2005-12-25, 01:50
It's the final episode!
In honor of its release, I'm running a silly little contest.
Rules are simple: First person to identify the episode number for each of the 107 Arienai's in the omake credits video wins.
Gah. That's tough. I haven't finished downloading the episode yet, but once I do I'm gonna have a go at this. Considering that Nagisa says "arienai" in pretty much every episode... it'll be nigh impossible!! Maybe I'm misinterpreting the meaning of this question and all will be made clear once I see the omake credits. That isn't the real reason I'm posting though. I have a question about the rules.
Question: Do you want all answers PMed to you? Or should they be posted in this thread. I assume that you want them PMed to you because if they are posted here, each person can build upon the knowlege of the previous poster.
I just want this made clear before someone posts their answers.
Quarkboy
2005-12-25, 02:16
Gah. That's tough. I haven't finished downloading the episode yet, but once I do I'm gonna have a go at this. Considering that Nagisa says "arienai" in pretty much every episode... it'll be nigh impossible!! Maybe I'm misinterpreting the meaning of this question and all will be made clear once I see the omake credits. That isn't the real reason I'm posting though. I have a question about the rules.
Question: Do you want all answers PMed to you? Or should they be posted in this thread. I assume that you want them PMed to you because if they are posted here, each person can build upon the knowlege of the previous poster.
I just want this made clear before someone posts their answers.
As long as the answers come to me in one form or another, I don't really mind... If people want to post them to a public forum and risk their hard work being stolen because they typoed once, they can go right ahead :). But if I were you I'd message me directly.
You have to get all 107 right. Anything less doesn't count. And there's no tricks here, they all are taken directly from the previously released episodes.
Amy-sama
2005-12-27, 00:59
It's the final episode!
In honor of its release, I'm running a silly little contest.
Mercy... just a little contest..I'll work on it..
Thanks for all the hard work Arienai, I've enjoyed Pretty Cure.
Quarkboy
2005-12-27, 02:24
Maybe I'm underestimating the difficulty. I recognized about 90 or so of them immediately, with only a couple I couldn't place exactly... Then again, I've nearly got the dialogue memorized for this show in some parts... Well, good luck everyone :)
NoSanninWa
2005-12-27, 06:01
You can say that because you actually fansubbed the show. How many times have you seen each episode? I've watched each episode merely once.
In other words, I've already given up because I could only recognize a dozen. And the one near the end that just won't stop - I guess that's another dozen right there.
Have you considered the possibility of giving the prize to the person who can guess the most arienais if you don't get a complete answer by the end of January?
Quarkboy
2005-12-27, 06:12
You can say that because you actually fansubbed the show. How many times have you seen each episode? I've watched each episode merely once.
In other words, I've already given up because I could only recognize a dozen. And the one near the end that just won't stop - I guess that's another dozen right there.
Have you considered the possibility of giving the prize to the person who can guess the most arienais if you don't get a complete answer by the end of January?
Sure :) I guess I didn't realize how much Pretty Cure was burned into my brain....
One hint: You can always tell whether an arienai is from the first 13 episodes or 14+, from the encoding quality (the ones from 1-13 were tv rips)...
http://www.asahi.co.jp/precure/news/15.html
The link above leads to the Pretty Cure page announcing that for the third series the previous cast will be replaced with a new one.
Cure Black (Misumaru Nagisa) replaced for Cure Bloom (Hyuuga Saki)
Cure White (Yukishiro Honoka) replaced for Cure Egret (Mishou Mai)
The third series will feature a whole, different story from the previous two.
Pretty Cure: Next Generation, anyone?
Quarkboy
2005-12-27, 14:42
For more info on splash star, read this post on the the precure livejournal community:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/precure/59529.html#cutid1
where I translate the entire article.
P.S. As for the "next generation thing", I've specifically read that Honoka and Nagisa will NOT APPEAR in the new series at all. So I presume that means they are "reborn"/"reinvented" and it's not a generational thing.
I'm still curious to see how they're going to pull off a "remake" of a show that's just finished airing. The plot for Splash Star looks nearly identical to the one for PreCure Season 1. Too bad I won't know in the near future -- if the Arienai team persist in their decision to release the next season in H264 only, I'll have to wait until I save enough money to buy a new computer. And that won't happen in the foreseeable future.
Tatiana Razajev
2005-12-27, 17:14
I'm not against new characters being introduced. However I can't see any point to starting the entire story from scratch. They should build on the previous seasons. Disregarding them is stupid. Although maybe despite that the series will be decent.
Quarkboy
2005-12-27, 22:33
I'm still curious to see how they're going to pull off a "remake" of a show that's just finished airing. The plot for Splash Star looks nearly identical to the one for PreCure Season 1. Too bad I won't know in the near future -- if the Arienai team persist in their decision to release the next season in H264 only, I'll have to wait until I save enough money to buy a new computer. And that won't happen in the foreseeable future.
It took me 1.5 years to finish first season, so it'll probably take that long to finish max heart too. You sure you can't save enough money for a new computer over the next 1.5 years?
I first saw Pretty Cure about a year ago at a local anime club and got totally addicted to Honoka and Nagisa, it was kinda hard getting all of the episodes together, had to use 2 different fansubs, well worth the effort. I'm not in the demographic group that this series was intended for, ie-female and under the age of 13-but that doesn't stop me from enjoying it, none the less. But then I'm a great shojo fan, can't wait for Areinai to start putting out Max tv.
Kamui4356
2006-02-24, 17:24
According to animeondvd and animenewsnetwork, 4kids has licensed pretty cure... While I'm not what you'd call a fan, I didn't think the series was bad. It's a shame to see a series go to 4kids when you know they're just going to butcher it... :(
According to animeondvd and animenewsnetwork, 4kids has licensed pretty cure... While I'm not what you'd call a fan, I didn't think the series was bad. It's a shame to see a series go to 4kids when you know they're just going to butcher it... :(
Did 4-KIDS further comment if they licensed all the three Pretty Cure series or just the first Pretty Cure (classic series)?
I'm thankful to be able to have finished watching the first Pretty Cure (unbutchered, unadulterated, unedited, uncensored), but unfortunately, I will have to wait a long while to watch Max Heart and worst of all, it would be the 4-KIDS butchered, censored, and edited dub.
On the bright side, I do not care very much about the fiasco that Splash Star started as.
Quarkboy
2006-02-24, 21:26
Did 4-KIDS further comment if they licensed all the three Pretty Cure series or just the first Pretty Cure (classic series)?
I'm thankful to be able to have finished watching the first Pretty Cure (unbutchered, unadulterated, unedited, uncensored), but unfortunately, I will have to wait a long while to watch Max Heart and worst of all, it would be the 4-KIDS butchered, censored, and edited dub.
On the bright side, I do not care very much about the fiasco that Splash Star started as.
Well, I knew this day would come. No, really, I did know, I got a tip from the Forbes magazine reporter, so I knew almost for sure PC was scheduled for Fall 2006 on 4kids in about september.
On a more immmediate note, I will continue to sub Max heart (ep 1 is amost done) until they clarify that they've licensed all 3 years. I'm guessing that's probably not the case. They might even only do the first 26 eps like with TMM...
We'll have to wait a bit until that's clarified, I'm sure.
In any case, now the subs are "out there", so even if 4kids doesn't release subbed versions or uncut version (as I'm sure will be the case, unless Toei made strange demands on them) they'll be out there to people who really really want them.
4Kids is the only group I really don't have any qualms downloading fansubs for after a license because:
1. They don't release DVDs of the original product
2. They are not interested in promoting anime as it is, only making anime into "cartoons"
I am happy to hear that Max Heart fansubbing will go on as planned. I also seriously doubt that they have Max Heart considering 4Kids likes to license episodes in blocks based on the performance of an anime on Fox.
But anime is a cartoon, and vice versa. They'r both animated cells. Anyways, 4kids will probably give it a okay dub along with many, many needless cuts in terms of plot and music.
Leo_Otaku
2006-02-26, 00:35
I never cared for this series but the music is kinda catchy other wise the plot was just way too cliche and so darn boring....
It sucks for the fans tho who wanted to get the R1 dvd's uncut
NoSanninWa
2006-02-26, 04:28
But anime is a cartoon, and vice versa. They'r both animated cells.
Saying that anime is a cartoon and vice versa because they both have animated cells is like saying that humans are chimpanzees and vice versa because you are both primates.
While there is a strong resemblance between some of the people I know and chimpanzees, nevertheless there are some differences of note. Like the ability to use the internet, among other less important abilities. Similarly I note a lot of differences between the categories of cartoons and anime that make it useful to differentiate between them.
Princess_of_Hell
2006-02-27, 19:06
At least all the episodes were fansubbed before it was licensed.
Another interesting article concerning the 4-KIDS licensing of Pretty Cure in Anime Nation's Ask John archives.
What's John's Reaction to 4Kids Distributing Pretty Cure? (http://www.animenation.net/news/askjohn.php?id=1265)
Two points are stressed.
1. Since Pretty Cure remains virtually unknown and unheard of within the mainstream American anime community, the dub will help to build up an American fan base for the show.
Pretty Cure's licensing has started discussion in other boards, regarding mainstream fans of magic-girl anime like Sailor Moon.
2. The Pretty Cure fans contempt about the severe cuts and changes that the dub will undergo to fit into American TV standards.
The most blaring change for all of Pretty Cure fans will be altering of Cure Black and Cure White names so as to avoid negative potential criticisms stem from racial insensitivity.
He said that Cure White/Black *might* be changed. It's speculation.
Quarkboy
2006-02-28, 19:03
He said that Cure White/Black *might* be changed. It's speculation.
I would be really suprised if they did that. It'd be way too hard to change all the merchandize :).
Now that I think about it, though... it IS kind of racist. Why is Black so atletic and White so intellectual? And Black only likes fried foods too... White has a big house while black lives in a small apartment. White is obviously way richer than Black. And the biggest thing: Black can't swim.
Goddamn, it's a giant stereotype! I'm gonna write an angry letter to the NAACP to get the show banned from the air...
NoSanninWa
2006-02-28, 19:45
Now that I think about it, though... it IS kind of racist. Why is Black so atletic and White so intellectual? And Black only likes fried foods too... White has a big house while black lives in a small apartment. White is obviously way richer than Black. And the biggest thing: Black can't swim.
Goddamn, it's a giant stereotype! I'm gonna write an angry letter to the NAACP to get the show banned from the air...
:D :D
I would be really suprised if they did that.
I wouldn't be. This is the good old litigious USA you know. People sue over coffee being too hot here. The names will be changed, and the show will be Americanized from top to bottom. Didn't some 4kids exec say something one time about how they did their best to remove any traces of Japan from Pokemon, to the point of changing onigiri (riceballs) into jelly doughnuts?
Well knowing about 4 kids well deserved reputation for totally screwing up everything they manage to get their grubby hands on Pretty Cure will turn into pretty lame. I'm glad I managed to get all of the originial PC episodes. I'd like to see what not 4 kids would do to Sailor Moon-Sailor Stars. Ugly thought, huh?
Cure Heart
2006-10-12, 15:06
Okay,I have a question. 4kids did license Pretty Cure and it was supposed premiere last month. So,where is it?
Cure Heart
2006-10-12, 15:19
Okay,I have a question. 4kids did license Pretty Cure and it was supposed to premiere last month. So where is it?
Cure Heart
2006-10-12, 15:20
Ack,double post!
Quarkboy
2006-10-12, 16:28
And now a triple post!
Ahem... 4kids has been completely silent about Pretty Cure's mysterious non-premier this fall. However, after trolling through 4kids tv forums and the interwebs, my best guess is that they will premier it mid season, which means December or January, perhaps.
Cure Heart
2006-10-12, 20:57
And now a triple post!
Ahem... 4kids has been completely silent about Pretty Cure's mysterious non-premier this fall. However, after trolling through 4kids tv forums and the interwebs, my best guess is that they will premier it mid season, which means December or January, perhaps.
Aw,too bad. I was all ready for Pretty Cure RPGs,now I have to wait.
Boukenblue
2006-10-17, 13:35
I Have some roms of Pretty Cure
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6369/pc01ll8.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9800/pcmhgame02vv4.jpg
I can upload it here?
the emulator already is including in the file.
NoSanninWa
2006-10-17, 15:45
I can upload it here?
the emulator already is including in the file.
I'm not familiar with this game, but I seriously doubt you can link it here. We have a strict no warez policy. Nothing can be linked here unless it is freeware. If these ROMS are normally bought for money, then they are warez. Since it needs an emulator, I'm guessing that it isn't meant to be freely traded.
Boukenblue
2006-10-17, 16:22
I'm not familiar with this game, but I seriously doubt you can link it here. We have a strict no warez policy. Nothing can be linked here unless it is freeware. If these ROMS are normally bought for money, then they are warez. Since it needs an emulator, I'm guessing that it isn't meant to be freely traded.
The Games and the emulator are Free.
You can download by Megaupload page.
The problem is, no all forums accept post roms (License problems)
But this games Don’t have License in USA.
So, no is a violation of the rules (I Think:confused: ).
NoSanninWa
2006-10-17, 16:35
But this games Don’t have License in USA.
So, no is a violation of the rules (I Think:confused: ).
If it is licensed in Japan, then don't post links to it. If it is licensed in any country you can't link it here. We don't even allow links to anime unless it is subtitled.
Boukenblue
2006-10-17, 18:46
O.K. http://forums.animesuki.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
I can send you the games by PM?
If you want them of course.
single so you know them.
since it´s possible they do not leave Japan.
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6780/hapynagisa8gg.gifThe Games, http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/927/hapyhonoka9kr.gif
Game 01
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6369/pc01ll8.jpg
The dark forces invaded the world of Dreams and only Pretty Cure can save it.
The problem is that besides to fight and to take care of themselves of the dangers of the world of the dreams This it is like a species of labyrinth.
Black and White will have to be alternated so that one helps to cross to the other until the portal that took them to the following section.
Without forgetting to collect items, and to top it all they have limit of time before the zone where they are is consumed by the dark.
Game 02
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7185/pcmh2et1.jpg
Lucky!, Nagisa won 3 entrances to go to the fair.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9800/pcmhgame02vv4.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5835/pcmhgame03jy6.jpg
What?! the fair this under attack of the dark forces?! Arienai!
Black Whithe and Luminos will have to take separated ways
infested by Zakennas until arriving with the boss of each section of the fair.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1690/pcmhgameqw8.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9930/pcmhgame05ka4.jpg
Where the three are alternated to attack it.
In this game you found scenes of bonus where you will have to help
Mipple, Mepple or Porun to reunite the greater amount than you can of stars.
Also items to decorate the rooms of the girls.
Game 03
Pretty Cure Max Heart DS
Quarkboy
2007-05-08, 17:10
Hey, look what I found!
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/corporate/ir/ksn_pdf/20070125_presen.pdf
Yes, that's right, Quarkboy reads Toei corporate powerpoint presentations in his spare time.
Most importantly, look at page 15. See the first column? That's "America". Note the lack of star in the Pretty Cure row. This is a graph of shows that are airing in various countries.
Not exactly proof that 4kids doesn't have the license anymore, but probably the closest thing we'll ever get.
Quarkboy
2007-05-11, 11:48
Okay, that settles it in my mind.
I just listened to the conference call by Al Kahn yesterday, the CEO of 4kids entertainment. In the call he says
"Come September, we will completely rebrand 4kids tv. Every single program will be based on a video game, or a trading card game."
He goes on to say how they will consider the tv programming block more as a gateway to these games than anything else.
Considering that Pretty Cure has no particularly interesting card game (it has collectible cards, but no GAME) and no particularly interesting video games either, that means Al Kahn just admitted that Pretty Cure will not air on 4kids tv.... EVER.
Therefore I now consider the show officially unlicensed. Or, in this case "never actually was licensed".
Quarkboy
2007-05-14, 14:05
AND.... I think I consider Pretty Cure Licensed again.
Or perhaps I should call this post "And They're BAAAAAACK...."
According to a news report on animeonline, which links to a japanese blog http://www.animeonline.com/index.php?page=news_details&action=details&id=101718
Toei animation has decided to set up shop... AGAIN... in their LA headquarters and try to license their products themselves into the US market. The Japanese blogger even notes that Pretty Cure is featured on their new web site even though it's the only show that is NOT already being distributed in the US.
Let's see if and when this might happen. But at the very least it seems like Toei will give any new licenses to themselves :).
Who knows, maybe we'll even get Gegege no Kitarou over here?
NoSanninWa
2007-05-14, 14:56
Who knows, maybe we'll even get Gegege no Kitarou over here?
Now you're hoping for way too much.
Quarkboy
2007-05-14, 16:08
Now you're hoping for way too much.
I don't think it's out of the question.
What exactly does Toei plan to bring over, then? I would realize that "old" doesn't sell over here, so what's in your catalog that would work?
Right now, they have
1. Powerpuff girls Z (distribution rights probably owned by CN in america)
2. Lovely Complex (I think they could try this on DVD)
3. Happy Lucky Bikkuri-man (um... no)
4. Yes! Pretty Cure 5
5. Gegege no Kitarou (2007)
6. One Piece (licensed to Funimation)
airing.
If we look back a few years, we find
1. Digimon Savers (licensed to Disney)
2. Pretty Cure Splash Star
3. Giniro no Olynssis
4. Gaiking
5. Airgear (licensed by ADV)
6. Binbou shimai monogatari
7. Kamisama Kazoku
8. Beet the vandal buster (licensed by illumitoon)
9. Ayakashi (licensed by Geneon)
10. Bobobo (distroed by illumitoon)
11. Gash Bell (licensed and aired already)
So, looking at their entire recent catalog, what exactly DO they plan to license?
The choices seem pretty clear to me:
Older audience possibilities: Lovely Complex, Giniro no Olynssis, Binbou shimai, kamisama kazoku
Younger audience: Pretty Cure... and.... Gegege no Kitarou!
I doubt they'll do binbou shimai, and lovely complex is a stretch even though the manga sold pretty well, I believe. So that really leaves a pretty small number of shows to choose from. If you add in "Mononoke" which airs in June, I think there is room for Toei's biggest hit show of the season.
And yeah, I AM getting my hopes up. so sue me.
Setsuna Asuka
2007-05-15, 17:39
Only if Toei has learned anything from their previous messups<_<
Quarkboy-just dust off your Pretty Cure subs and re-release them. I'm wondering-what's going on with Yes-Pretty Cure 5 and Pretty Cure Max Heart? Did you decide to stop subbing em' or just too much other stuff to do right now? And I wonder-will they try to re-release Sailor Moon themselves? I'd really love to see Sailor Stars get released here-but we both know that's never gonna happen?..........
Quarkboy
2007-05-27, 02:40
Quarkboy-just dust off your Pretty Cure subs and re-release them. I'm wondering-what's going on with Yes-Pretty Cure 5 and Pretty Cure Max Heart? Did you decide to stop subbing em' or just too much other stuff to do right now? And I wonder-will they try to re-release Sailor Moon themselves? I'd really love to see Sailor Stars get released here-but we both know that's never gonna happen?..........
I am embroiled in the toils of my real life. Finishing my ph.d. thesis, moving, finding a job, etc... I've suspended any subbing activity until such things are dealt with.
And there's no reason to rerelease my subs when torrents are still available. Plus it would get my tracker de-listed from asuki, since people still consider it licensed.
What are you getting a ph d in? Paritcle physics? Just kidding-really, what subject? And to think I had to work like hell to get my masters in Liberal Arts-and the job I have now has nothing what so ever to do with that degree-go figure? Your originial PC subs are still available-but it takes a long hard google search to find em'-and when one does locate them-more like 2 months to finish the download-which is why I'm glad all 49 episodes reside on my hard drive.
NoSanninWa
2007-05-28, 22:37
What are you getting a ph d in? Paritcle physics? Just kidding-really, what subject?
Actually your guess is isn't too far off, but that's not really on-topic, so if you want to know about Quarkboy's graduate studies you'll have to ask him in PM.
The only important point is that AnimeSuki still considers Pretty Cure to be licensed. I was about to bring up reconsidering the license. The he posted this which convinced me that Pretty Cure may yet get released in the US:
AND.... I think I consider Pretty Cure Licensed again.
Or perhaps I should call this post "And They're BAAAAAACK...."
According to a news report on animeonline, which links to a japanese blog http://www.animeonline.com/index.php?page=news_details&action=details&id=101718
Toei animation has decided to set up shop... AGAIN... in their LA headquarters and try to license their products themselves into the US market. The Japanese blogger even notes that Pretty Cure is featured on their new web site even though it's the only show that is NOT already being distributed in the US.
Let's see if and when this might happen. But at the very least it seems like Toei will give any new licenses to themselves :).
Quarkboy
2007-05-29, 00:51
Actually your guess is isn't too far off, but that's not really on-topic, so if you want to know about Quarkboy's graduate studies you'll have to ask him in PM.
The only important point is that AnimeSuki still considers Pretty Cure to be licensed. I was about to bring up reconsidering the license. The he posted this which convinced me that Pretty Cure may yet get released in the US:
Slightly off or on topic, I'm not really sure anymore... but I might, and I stress MIGHT, actually have a job at Toei animation Inc, LA this summer.
If I do, I presume I will have access to the information of whether the show is actually licensed or not. Of course, I would also need to stop any fansubbing work (more permanently then I do now).
I'm not sure whether it will actually materialize, but I HAVE gotten a positive response from them... And I'm not sure exactly what I'd be doing, but I'd hope part of it would be attempting to bring Pretty Cure to the states, OFFICIALLY. Or, it could be filing...
NoSanninWa
2007-05-29, 01:04
Slightly off or on topic, I'm not really sure anymore... but I might, and I stress MIGHT, actually have a job at Toei animation Inc, LA this summer.
If I do, I presume I will have access to the information of whether the show is actually licensed or not. Of course, I would also need to stop any fansubbing work (more permanently then I do now).
I'm not sure whether it will actually materialize, but I HAVE gotten a positive response from them... And I'm not sure exactly what I'd be doing, but I'd hope part of it would be attempting to bring Pretty Cure to the states, OFFICIALLY. Or, it could be filing...
Why is Toei employing a Quantum Physicist? :heh: I guess anime is getting really technical these days.
(No need to answer that, I understand. I just thought it was amusing.)
I hope you can answer us about the actual license status of Pretty Cure. It would suck if you need to sign a confidentiality agreement.
Quarkboy
2007-09-21, 23:03
Uber batch just released.
Oh, and this thread should be moved back into "Unlicensed" now that asuki is listing the show again.
And by the way, Toei was not seriously interested, it seems, and was trying to get me to send them advice for free. Ha!
NoSanninWa
2007-09-27, 04:13
Toei certainly needs advice if they can't get this gem released in R1. Iit is a shame that they were just scamming you.
ChibiGoku
2008-07-18, 07:09
Well, looks like Pretty Cure is licensed, again. Toei Animation is releasing the series subtitled, over at IGN's Direct2Drive service. You can find the downloads here (http://www.direct2drive.com/Search.aspx?SearchTerm=Pretty%20Cure[/url).
Wish I had money to buy them...
Quarkboy
2008-07-20, 00:34
Well this is like the bare minimum thing Toei could possibly do with the series in R1. I really fail to see how they will attract more than say... 100? people to pay $2 per episode for a show in slightly worse quality than they can get using youtube to watch my fansubs that people keep uploading.
I can't even purchase the damn things myself since I'm in Japan and the direct2drive service is region locked to the US and Canada. So you'll have to wait for my critque of the subtitles (although I've already heard reports from people of the atrocious video quality).
Well, folks!
After a year or two since 4-KIDS decided to drop off the license for Pretty Cure, YTV struck a license agreement with TOEI studios to start broadcasting the show as earlier as the first quarter of 2009.
Animation Magazine reports that so far airing of Pretty Cure's (first series) episodes will be only in Canada, and for the time being nothing has been mentioned about a possible broadcast in the United States.
Source. Animation Magazine (http://www.animationmagazine.net/article/9354)
BTW, for a possible, and most likely, displeasure or dismay of hard-cored, Pretty Cure fans, C21 Media also reports that Nagisa and Honoka have been re-named to 'Natalie' and 'Hannah' for the YTV English dub.
Source. C21 Media (http://www.c21media.net/resources/detail.asp?area=79&article=46595)
The first series of Pretty Cure! (i.e. Futari wa Pretty Cure) will be released on Crunchyroll starting Jan 2009 so it's back to being considered as licensed.
Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup)
ChibiGoku
2009-01-03, 17:12
The first series of Pretty Cure! (i.e. Futari wa Pretty Cure) will be released on Crunchyroll starting Jan 2009 so it's back to being considered as licensed.
Crunchyroll (http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup)
Actually... It's been streamed on Crunchyroll for almost 2 monthes now. Maybe more... :heh:
I don't know if anyone's following this thread, but I just caught the first episode of YTV's (for now) Canada-only dub and I thought I'd give a few thoughts.
I missed the actual opening, but I heard the original theme in the next episode preview. Most of the music in the show is original, although the ending theme is different.
The voices suffer a little from Valley Girl syndrome. It's not as bad as Totally Spies, but just about every character sounds like they're about to say "Like fer sure, omigod" at the end of every sentence.
They kept a joke about Nagisa only getting love letters from girls.
The characters' names are Western, but Honoka's dog still has a Japanese name.:heh:
They changed what Precure say just before they do their finishing move. Originally they said something along the lines of "Our beautiful souls will purify your evil heart," and in the dub it's something like "We stamp out the darkness and replace it with light, we fight for justice and what's right." Yes, it rhymed. They also don't say "Precure Marble Screw," although I couldn't make out what they said instead.
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Cure#Licensing), the dub was done by Blue Water Studios in connection with the Ocean Group -- not exactly an all star team. Their dub of Zeta Gundam was very poorly rated, and that was by people who LIKE dubs.
The airtimes seem to have changed a little from what ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-21/ytv-to-premiere-pretty-cure-on-march-6) originally reported. I saw the show at 8AM Saturday, it's also on early Friday mornings, and again Friday afternoon. It seems unlikely to gain much of an audience at those times of day. Sailor Moon succeeded in a daily after-school timeslot, and that's where YTV put the awful magical girl knockoff Winx Club, so that's where Precure really belongs. I doubt it'll happen though.
I don't know if anyone's following this thread, but I just caught the first episode of YTV's (for now) Canada-only dub and I thought I'd give a few thoughts.
I missed the actual opening, but I heard the original theme in the next episode preview. Most of the music in the show is original, although the ending theme is different.
The voices suffer a little from Valley Girl syndrome. It's not as bad as Totally Spies, but just about every character sounds like they're about to say "Like fer sure, omigod" at the end of every sentence.
They kept a joke about Nagisa only getting love letters from girls.
The characters' names are Western, but Honoka's dog still has a Japanese name.:heh:
They changed what Precure say just before they do their finishing move. Originally they said something along the lines of "Our beautiful souls will purify your evil heart," and in the dub it's something like "We stamp out the darkness and replace it with light, we fight for justice and what's right." Yes, it rhymed. They also don't say "Precure Marble Screw," although I couldn't make out what they said instead.
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Cure#Licensing), the dub was done by Blue Water Studios in connection with the Ocean Group -- not exactly an all star team. Their dub of Zeta Gundam was very poorly rated, and that was by people who LIKE dubs.
The airtimes seem to have changed a little from what ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-21/ytv-to-premiere-pretty-cure-on-march-6) originally reported. I saw the show at 8AM Saturday, it's also on early Friday mornings, and again Friday afternoon. It seems unlikely to gain much of an audience at those times of day. Sailor Moon succeeded in a daily after-school timeslot, and that's where YTV put the awful magical girl knockoff Winx Club, so that's where Precure really belongs. I doubt it'll happen though.
Too bad, the Philippine version sounded better -- IMFO -- with none of the "valley girl" posturing, the Japanese names retained, and even their sidekicks sound more funnier.
In the February 2009 edition of Anime Insider, I've read an article about the show, where they talked about the license fumbling (with the notorious 4kids), how the series eventually went to YTV, and doubted whether it would succeed in North America. Judging from the first reactions, looks like not everyone's gonna be happy with the adaptation.
Still, I liked that part where Honoka got involved with a "forbidden" romance with one of their enemies, and that reminds me of Buffy. :heh:
Quarkboy
2009-03-08, 00:45
I finally watched the dub and I really couldn't disagree with that opinion more. And I fansubbed it years ago.
The voices are standard young girl voices, it's not anywhere CLOSE to the valley girl rewrite that Mew Mew Power got.
Overall I think it's a really good dub whose script is really faithful to the original Japanese dialog, with the exception of name changes.
The main characters are all decent, although Hannah could use a bit of improvement.
I've heard the phillipean dub (clips, anyway), and its extremely poorly acted. Plus the sound editing was terrible. It's typical of the super low budget asian based english dubs.
This one sounds a lot more professional to me, and is, in my opinion, shaping up to be the most faithful mainstream dub of a magical girl show.... EVER.
I've heard the phillipean dub (clips, anyway), and its extremely poorly acted. Plus the sound editing was terrible. It's typical of the super low budget asian based english dubs.
:twitch:
It'll sound ugly if one does not know the language. Being used to all this for so long, dubbing or the localization isn't much of an issue for me, it's just that not everyone's gonna read subtitles.
Unless you actually try to help out the dubbing team in localization. Then I give you cookies.
Quarkboy
2009-03-08, 04:48
:twitch:
It'll sound ugly if one does not know the language. Being used to all this for so long, dubbing or the localization isn't much of an issue for me, it's just that not everyone's gonna read subtitles.
Unless you actually try to help out the dubbing team in localization. Then I give you cookies.
Oh, wait... Sorry, I thought you mean the english odex dub... I figured they aired that in the phillipeans since most people speak english there, I didn't realize there was an actual phillipean dub.
Ah, I haven't heard that one so, I take back what I said, sorry for the confusion.
Oh, wait... Sorry, I thought you mean the english odex dub... I figured they aired that in the phillipeans since most people speak english there, I didn't realize there was an actual phillipean dub.
Ah, I haven't heard that one so, I take back what I said, sorry for the confusion.
Apology accepted. Heard more of xed0's notoriety than their dubbing, though.
Back to topic... Still waiting for the local TV station to air up Max Heart, but not sure if they'll actually do that, considering that the better moneymaker is a certain 14-year-old ninja.:(
If you're talking about an Odex dub like Bandai used for Fantastic Children-it really wasn't that bad-Pretty Cure has been eaten and regurgitated so many times it's kinda of lost it's appeal to a lot of people-even though I really like the magical girl genre I've long since moved on to other series such as Mahou Shoujo Tai Arisu or Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha and a lot of others. Oh you mean Tagalog-since I lived in the Philippines for 5 years I'm pretty familar with it.
Yokokawan Cyber
2009-03-09, 20:58
When I watched this anime I saw this opening:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8008/pcorg03200611prettycure.jpg
When I watched this anime I saw this opening:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8008/pcorg03200611prettycure.jpg
That's the normal opening, so what's unusual about it?
Yokokawan Cyber
2009-03-10, 19:16
That's the normal opening, so what's unusual about it?
The face of Nagisa looks horrible before the start of the normal opening.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1440/54532444.jpg
ShootingStars
2009-09-05, 12:46
can anyone tell me if there is ACTUALLY romance in this? not HINTS
does the characters at the end up season (like Natalie/Hannah) end up with a GUY at the end of the series? can anyone please tell me before I watch it all in hopes of nothing?
musume_no_hoshi
2009-09-05, 13:31
No they don't. No one ends up with anyone in the first generation. Don't put your hopes up.
Ah...I remember watching this when it was just released in Japan, was years ago.
ShootingStars
2009-09-05, 14:07
No they don't. No one ends up with anyone in the first generation. Don't put your hopes up.
Ah...I remember watching this when it was just released in Japan, was years ago.
not even in the max heart? no girl ending up with guy? man that sucks
i was watching for this for a while dubbed and i like the honoka/kirea matchup same as the natalie/fergie
they dont end up.... might as well quit the series
thanks!
Well, after reading a comment on how this franchise was the spiritual predecessor of series like Nanoha and Mai-Hime, checking the cast list and seeing that the battle designer for the series was the same guy who worked in the Dragon Ball series, I decided to give a try to the first season.
Anyway, even though it is not without its faults, the series is quite good, character interaction wise and whatnot. Personally I was never tired of the antics of the main cast and sometimes even of those of the villians. The series could have really been helped a lot if they had decided to half the episode count given the amount of repetition that goes around, but it is still good.
The first half, bar the excellent fighting scenes (I saw at least one DB ref per episode :heh:), was pretty much standard Mahou shoujo stuff with a tad of a shade of garness, if that makes sense. The last episodes after Kiriya makes his move turned it for the better, but overall it was just decent.
During the second half the series turned for the better. Personally I was really, really enthralled by the whole motivation shift the new bad guys went through (though in the end they were just given the Starscreamed (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStarscream) treatment, I would have prefered if they had given more screentime, but I was satisfied by what I got.
I was never eally bothered by Mepple, Mipple and Porun silly antics, but as mentioned earlier the series suffered from sheer repetition of the same odd formula for much of the series. Apart from the, Honoka and Nagisa character where really, really endearing, and that episode where Nagisa was forced to fight alone in order to reach Honoka was really emotional in that sense. Kudos to the scriptwriters.
Overall it is a series I would recommend to anyone if you are bored during a weekend and have nothing to do. Turn off your brain and enjoy the ride. Despite all of its failings, I would rate it as one of the best series the mahou shoujo genre has to offer to guys before the advent of series like Nanoha, as I mentioned in my introductory paragraph.
Proto random rating 7.4. Good series, it was worth my time. Nothing spectacular, but I'm left satisfied.
i will post my opinions on max hearth later today.
totally random offtopic comment: Maybe it's just me, but I have always wanted to watch a series of this genre where there is a third, agressive neutral faction bent on the balance between good and evil and who keeps alternatively helping the good and bad guys. Anyone know of anything on those lines?
Thanks to Quarkboy and co. for the work in this series :D
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