Clannad ~After Story~ - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll [Archive]

Klashikari

2008-12-11, 11:30

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SidVicious

2008-12-11, 15:43

Some funny moments on this episode.

cbatty

2008-12-12, 06:13

Nice pace to this story. Not rushed... Gave it a 9.

Working life seems to be hard on Tomoya... Nagisa is a great support to him while he learns the job and works long hours.

Loved the light saber battle!!! Damn funny! One little nit picking bit though - you would think that Nagisa and Tomoya would have a mobile phones so that Tomoya could have called Nagisa that he had to work... still, that would have negated the part of the story that shows how understanding Nagisa is.

Myssa Rei

2008-12-12, 06:16

I'd think that cellphones are well beyond Tomoya's means at the moment. ;)

Sheba

2008-12-12, 06:41

Count me as one who still DON'T have a cellphone.

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-12, 08:26

Terrific episode!! 9/10.

Mobile phones, eh? It's a pity they are so expensive in Japan. In Hong Kong, you could get the whole deal - phone, 500 minutes, SMS and all - for about US$10/900 yen a month! Even beggars could afford it.

Mecha_Trueno

2008-12-12, 09:35

Am I the only one who has to put in effort to differenciate between Tomoya and Yoshino every scene?:heh:... They got the same uniform, similiar eyes, similar hair (even harder to tell with helmets on), roughly the same height... wtf man, were they produced off an assembly line or something:heh:

Sanae scene was funny:D

Kristen

2008-12-12, 09:54

I'm glad that they did this episode. SEEN 6800/0 is still my least favorite seen of the entire game due to absolutely no plot (I went to work, I came home, various), but it's necessary. And being able to keep this episode interesting was a huge plus for Kyoani.

That lizard made me laugh quite a bit. Sanae-san is so cute like that. ^_^ But, it's not like she's divorcing Akio or anything with that, so it just re-iterates the unconditional love they have for each other.

Now that they managed to do 6800/0, I'm really excited for the rest of the anime. No more repetition, and now we get into meaningful episodes! High expectations from me for next week.

Oh, and another plus. No Kyou/Ryou this week. ^_^

9/10 for the great adaptation of an otherwise boring set of 1000 lines.

Ottocycle

2008-12-12, 10:00

Oh, and another plus. No Kyou/Ryou this week. ^_^

Of course, it would be a travesty to have the twins intrude on the awesome that is the premarital bliss.

W-General

2008-12-12, 10:13

I really really loved this episode.

Actually I found it to be truly inspring....maybe just me. But I'm a bum.
I go to grad school, and I live a very privileged life - parents pay for almost anything I would need. I go to bed at 5am and wake up at 12 having skipped classes. I get nothing done and I'm on the verge of becoming a NEET.

Then I see Tomoya hard-working. Here's a young man, with a goal. He has something he wants to protect, and he's working hard to make sure it stays that way. He's independent, while I'm leeching on my parents. Wow, I'm such a bum.

Model youth Okazaki Tomoya, high school graduate, electrician >>>>>>>>>>>> Me

I think I'm gonna live by a different motto from now on..."WWOTD: What Would Okazaki Tomoya Do"

Haru~

2008-12-12, 10:46

Interesting points:
--Construction --- hospital---And Is that the Sakura trees I saw getting demolished by a truck
--We finally meet the real Isogai.
--Sanae and Akio + Tomoya = Three Stooges?
--Nagisa's growth as a person---kinda hard seeing her alone doing the warm-ups and understanding Tomoya's work.
--Tomoya's growth as a person---Professionalism--
--Yoshino, Sanae and Akio's bond to Tomoya
Honestly, I almost teared up when I saw Nagisa alone in the school gates.
And finally guys, May the Force Be with You.

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-12, 10:51

And finally guys, May the Force Be with You.

It's picking up speed, finally. Always good things with Kyoani.:heh:

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-12, 13:47

Interesting points:

--We finally meet the real Isogai.
Honestly, I almost teared up when I saw Nagisa alone in the school gates.
And finally guys, May the Force Be with You.

We saw Isogai at the school festival in season 1 (episode 22, I think?). May the 氣 be with you.

Kinny Riddle

2008-12-12, 13:58

This episode can be summed up in five words: Tomoya learns to take responsibility.

This incident with him deciding to fix his own mistakes is an important part of Tomoya's development and growth as a person.

And it is not just Tomoya that impresses, Nagisa shows her incredible mercifulness and grace by not blaming Tomoya at all. Not to mention she bears all she's suffered with stride and does not begrudge her bad luck. She's much stronger than all of us think.

In Sunohara's absence, we now have Akio in his place to provide us with comic relief, and not only does he deliver the laughs, he consistently manages to keep his GAR-ness intact, unlike the poor wimp that is Sunohara. (Not to mention he actually has a strong connection with the Force, it is revealed. :cool: )

Another theme in AfterStory besides the main theme of family is change. This can be briefly glimpsed at ~4.42, at the slope leading from the school, a construction yard is now being made at the side.

cbatty

2008-12-12, 16:09

Ahh yes... I did see the excavator there... That was a nice tie in to the changes that will be happening in the town that Yoshino talked about.

Slackjack

2008-12-12, 17:51

Takuto19

2008-12-12, 18:02

9/10 for me.

Was a great episode although it seemed to lack the heart the past episodes had, nothing really got ya going, still was nice to see Tomoya starting to take responsibility, show how much he's grown since the first episode.

Still sad there's no Kappei though, ah well, can always play the game if i want to see his arc heh.

Looking forward to next weeks as always :)

Leo_Otaku

2008-12-12, 18:20

Still hope for one more character who has not shown their face!
Really great episode with Nagisa waiting was exactly how I imagined it. With Tomoya at work was really well, flowed smoothly. so 13 episodes to go maybe two more than that let us see...

Bathory Area

2008-12-12, 18:44

EP 11 was O.K but title of episode 12 is making me worry.:uhoh:

cold_snipe

2008-12-12, 20:27

9/10, good episode, not straying much from the game.

construction.. what about the scene in the opening part? will that change?
Anywho, the area looks to small to be for a hospital. Maybe it's just the town changing, not necessarily the new location for the hospital.

GameMaster0000

2008-12-12, 21:51

And finally guys, May the Force Be with You.

I think Light Saber Scene is related to Gundam than Star wars. Because Akio like gunpla.

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-12, 21:59

I think Light Saber Scene is related to Gundam than Star wars. Because Akio like gunpla.

and Gundam Seed was based off Star Wars.

MeoTwister5

2008-12-12, 22:47

I personally don't agree that SEEN 6800 was pointless. I mean you need to contrast the fact that Tomoya decided to fix the wiring he messed up with on the same day he promised to go with Nagisa on Founder's Day. The Tomoya of old would have either bummed around somewhere or run away from the house. Here he knew he had a greater responsibility than his own personal pleasure, and he trusted Nagisa enough to understand, and understand she did. It takes someone with balls and sense of purpose to grow up that fast and take responsibility for one's mistakes.

That's a great leap of faith for Nagisa and a great leap of maturity for Tomoya.

This is why I love them both.:heh:

Also, I'm almost pretty sure that the construction site that Nagisa passed by is what I think it is but I won't say for spoiler's sake, but wasn't it supposed to be somwhere else, like a little ways outside town? I'm sure it wasn't on the hill to school.

Edit - And I don't care what the title of the next episode suggests. My Clannad sense is telling me a kiss is coming up...

Nerroth

2008-12-12, 22:49

What a great ep.

Shame there was no time to see if Tomoyo-tachi were able to make time for Nagisa or not...

Sorrow-K

2008-12-12, 23:19

I like how this feels less like an episode and more like we're in the midst of a real story now. I think this is probably the first time for a long time in Clannad where it hasn't felt like we're in the middle of one of many modular arcs. Even when Clannad has tried to blend several arcs together, it felt kinda forced. This actually genuinely feels like each episode is only part of a bigger story, and the episode-to-episode transitions feel continuous.

Nonetheless, there's last few episodes have been very character driven. It's more about people (Tomoya specifically) growing up than what happens in the plot. I like stories like that. Less contrivances, more humanity.

SaintessHeart

2008-12-13, 01:09

I am still missing Tomoya during his school days. Most of all, I am missing Sunohara.

Yoshino's reaction in the end was epic. "LOVE!". Lol.

germanturkey

2008-12-13, 01:32

tomoya's development was good, but the nagisa moments were painful to watch. like, i honestly thought about skipping those moments. the lack of support characters also let me down. i know afterstory is supposed to concentrate on Tomoya's and Nagisa's relationship, but geez, even a cameo here or there wouldn't kill the show..

7/10

Proto

2008-12-13, 01:38

even a cameo here or there wouldn't kill the show..

On the contrary, it would be like adding milk to brand name tea. It just doesn't work that way :p The reason why should be understood later on.

In any case, worry not. The Furukawa parents, Yoshino and Kouko are good enough characters to fill the supporting role for a while :)

Leo_Otaku

2008-12-13, 01:40

There will be cameo apperances later right now it would be pointless to have them appear >.>

cold_snipe

2008-12-13, 01:57

Also, I'm almost pretty sure that the construction site that Nagisa passed by is what I think it is but I won't say for spoiler's sake, but wasn't it supposed to be somwhere else, like a little ways outside town? I'm sure it wasn't on the hill to school.

It's not *that*, i think. Remember that one of the backdrops changes in the AS in the game?
remember when you take botan home the first time, the curvy road where you end up at? Something somewhat relevant to the story gets built there.

MeoTwister5

2008-12-13, 02:06

It's not *that*, i think. Remember that one of the backdrops changes in the AS in the game?
remember when you take botan home the first time, the curvy road where you end up at? Something somewhat relevant to the story gets built there.

I'm talking about the hospital actually. I'm semi-positive that when Akio shows Tomoya the hospital under construction it wasn't near the school but a good distance away.

Ottocycle

2008-12-13, 02:10

Let's not go into spoiler territory, please...

Proto

2008-12-13, 02:18

Indeed, there is a thread for that.

cold_snipe

2008-12-13, 02:34

I'm talking about the hospital actually. I'm semi-positive that when Akio shows Tomoya the hospital under construction it wasn't near the school but a good distance away.

thats exactly what i was thinking it was. anyways, back to spoiler-less talk!

Jaden

2008-12-13, 03:13

Wow, somehow Tomoya's become extremely hard working. I couldn't take anything that seriously. And his co-workers and girlfriend show incredible empathy, I was totally expecting him to get chewed out on either front...I liked this episode, it shows well the meaning of being a good person.

Nochgo

2008-12-13, 04:41

Wow, the growth in Tomoya is really starting to surprise me, as well as Nagisa's patience in all this. Having been a bum and a outcast all his high school life, the change in Tomoya from being part of the society with mutual trust and responsibilities is really noticeable. And Nagisa's efforts to not rely/bother Tomoya and give him her full support in any way she can as she go through difficult times in school really touched me. I thought Kyoani did this episode very well, and gets a 10/10 from me.

Master Chibi

2008-12-13, 05:48

Holy balls Nagisa is boring the fuck out of me.

This was the worst episode out of the entire two seasons.

My god.

Ottocycle

2008-12-13, 05:52

Holy balls Nagisa is boring the fuck out of me.

This was the worst episode out of the entire two seasons.

My god.
Oh dear. All I've got to say is: Drop the series now. Else you're going to wonder where the hell those 24x20mins went to in your life.

Serious.

Sheba

2008-12-13, 05:52

Just what were you expecting? Naru x Keitarou brand of character dynamics?

Master Chibi

2008-12-13, 05:59

I want Nagisa to show some honest to god emotion. Be a little selfish. Get a tiny bit mad. At this rate he could walk all over her and she'd still be that pure essence of happiness she's always been. She's always felt like his damn cheerleader, and I fucking hate that. This guy is growing up in front of you, hurry up and do the same woman!

And seriously, the highlight of this episode was him making a mistake at work?

That's it?

We've had cats in human bodies, people projecting themselves from their hospital bed, gang wars, ass kicking for more bonding, confusion in a gym equipment shack, a world wide traveled suitcase, and the best god damn thing they can come up with at is "Oops I goofed at work?" for this episode?

Ugh.

@ humbug:

Oh dear. All I've got to say is: Drop the series now. Else you're going to wonder where the hell those 24x20mins went to in your life.

Serious.

Nah, I have people pushing me to keep watching because it'll apparently be worth it in the end, so I trust them.

@ Sheba:

Just what were you expecting? Naru x Keitarou brand of character dynamics?

If Nagisa clocked Tomoya in the face for not showing up to the festival I would be crying tears of joy.

Sheba

2008-12-13, 06:07

@ Sheba:

If Nagisa clocked Tomoya in the face for not showing up to the festival I would be crying tears of joy.

I am actually fucking sick and tired of this kind of cliche, not everyone act that way, not every anime girls had to be a cookie-cutter tsundere, not every relationship had to be cookie-cutter bickering followed by swooning.

Know what? Just give up on the series. It's clear that the series will never be up to YOUR expectations.

Vegard Aune

2008-12-13, 06:22

I am actually fucking sick and tired of this kind of cliche, not everyone act that way, not every anime girls had to be a cookie-cutter tsundere, not every relationship had to be cookie-cutter bickering followed by swooning.
Hm, at first, my reaction to this was Nagisa, it's possible to be a bit too forgiving... but you just made me realise that it was probably better this way. After all, I kinda hate that scenario you just mentioned.

Anyway, good episode, but I totally saw it coming that Tomoya wouldn't be able to go to the festival.

Sheba

2008-12-13, 06:30

From the way Nagisa was shown through the first season, I think it would have been sort of out of character if Nagisa was upset for that. When Nagisa had been shown to be upset, it was for Tomoya's sake. Should she have blamed Tomoya and his work? Perhaps, she had thought about the fact that Tomoya had yet to be well settled in his job, his main mean to support the soon-to-be-married couple, financial-wise. One should also think that it is a couple in its first steps, couples tends to be more forgiving in the starting stages than later on.

Realistic? Up to the viewer.

Ottocycle

2008-12-13, 06:39

@ humbug:

Nah, I have people pushing me to keep watching because it'll apparently be worth it in the end, so I trust them.

In a very warped sense I get where they're coming from, having finished the source material. But to be honest, from your apparent hatred toward Nagisa at present I can infer it won't be worth the 24x20minutes. In fact I expect to see your long-ass TL;DR post wholly comprised of negative comments in the Overall Impressions thread coming up. If you manage to finish the series that is.

If you still choose to trust the people that you mentioned though, I won't interfere with that, but I'll tell you, the road ahead is long and arduous.

Haru~

2008-12-13, 06:46

I want Nagisa to show some honest to god emotion.
Honestly, what do you expect? Slap him in the face? :heh:
Be a little selfish. Get a tiny bit mad. At this rate he could walk all over her and she'd still be that pure essence of happiness she's always been.
So you mean Nagisa should interfere with his work? With his growth as an adult?
She's always felt like his damn cheerleader, and I fucking hate that.
Tomoya said without her support, he will crumble because of work.
Nagisa understood the situation
This guy is growing up in front of you, hurry up and do the same woman!
That's why she's not interfering and she's supporting him and are you sure about the thing she didn't grow?
And seriously, the highlight of this episode was him making a mistake at work?

That's it?
Seriously, it's all part of Tomoya's professionalism... His commitment to work. Commitment to change for his future.
We've had cats in human bodies, people projecting themselves from their hospital bed, gang wars, ass kicking for more bonding, confusion in a gym equipment shack, a world wide traveled suitcase, and the best god damn thing they can come up with at is "Oops I goofed at work?" for this episode?

Ugh.
Better than someone watching a series he can't swallow to watch. Peace.
What did you expect in a slice of life genre? Eating monsters, draculas, super powers used to kill each other, robotics used in wars in whatever year?
Nah, I have people pushing me to keep watching because it'll apparently be worth it in the end, so I trust them.
Apparently, the reason why you are disappointed is because all your expectations didn't match. Am I right? So it's pointless to watch even they recommend it, because you are expecting something else.
If Nagisa clocked Tomoya in the face for not showing up to the festival I would be crying tears of joy.
See now you expected it, you were disappointed. And really, it's out of character for Nagisa if she did that. If you want that, go to Toradora, Shana or ZnT thread, you might get your expectations.
edited: Sorry if it's harsh.

cbatty

2008-12-13, 08:07

SageGaiGar

2008-12-13, 09:14

Hmmm. If Clannad After Story is a bit too pedestrian for some, can I recommend they switch to another anime maybe ... hmm lets say School Days? Every character has a mobile phone in that series ;)

I love this part of After Story. Not knowing what comes next as I haven't played the game, I can see that these slower paced episodes are building our knowledge of who the characters are. We can see them grow as people, in their responsibilites at work and school, and in their relationships with each other. I suspect this is building to something - not exactly sure what - and yes, the title of next weeks episode is a concern for me.

2 more cents from me... enjoy

School days... total 180 from this series. (Though I haven't actually seen the series, I know enough)

Personally I'm loving this part of the series, though I can understand some of the complaints about Nagisa, from a dramatic point of view. If this were more comedy than drama than something more lively would be in order. However, it's going a lot more slice of life/drama so it makes a lot more sense for everything to be slower paced and relaxed.

Though I kind of wish she had her own dreams aside from simply supporting Tomoya. Though, in his own words.. he'd fall apart without that support. She shows a surprising amount of strength and maturity not getting upset over things. Patience of a saint? I think the haters are once again projecting thier own feelings into the story rather than sitting back and enjoying the ride.

Bennyswan

2008-12-13, 10:19

Just saw this episode....... 9/10

really good =]

Kristen

2008-12-13, 10:27

Master Chibi

2008-12-13, 10:29

phishn37

2008-12-13, 11:27

I think Nagisa is a bit too forgiving. She seems like she's afraid to expect anything from Tomoya. Maybe in the next few episodes he'll prove her wrong.

But, anyway, episode 11 was another great episode, although the fighting scene was kind of crappy looking. It may not be perfect, but its miles better than the dribbley moe crap up to episode 9, so I'll take it anyday.

9/10

Nochgo

2008-12-13, 11:28

Ok guys, I know you probably think I'm sitting on the other side of the monitor here tapping my fingers together muttering 'Excellent' to myself like I'm Mr. Burns, but I'm not.

It's just as 'cookie cutter' as shit like Naru and Keitaro are, well Nagisa doesn't come off as a wholly unique individual either. Yeah, I don't like her. At all. I still think she's the weakest link of the entire show, even when she's supposed to be the complete opposite.

But I do like Tomoya, so I'm going to keep watching.

So as a word to the wise you don't need to quote every line I say individually in an attempt to sort me out, because I know what you guys are getting at.

Trust me.

;p

Then stop posting things that will get people to quote every single line you post in attempt to prove your statements wrong. Its annoying and getting old, frankly. You are in a forum where people really enjoy this anime, so you should expect to be retorted. It is like saying, 'abortion should be legal' in a forum for pro-life group. But I guess in the end, it is still your choice to voice your opinion. Just expect this to happen again if you deprecate the series.

Getting back on to the series, I finally saw the preview cause I forgot. Yoshino's last line... it seems like there will be some complications coming up between Tomoya and Nagisa. Ugh, the 'Damn it, another week of waiting!!!' syndrome I had watching first season of Clannad is coming back.

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

2008-12-13, 11:36

T
Getting back on to the series, I finally saw the preview cause I forgot. Yoshino's last line... it seems like there will be some complications coming up between Tomoya and Nagisa. Ugh, the 'Damn it, another week of waiting!!!' syndrome I had watching first season of Clannad is coming back.

Same here. it always gets better with Kyoani.

Proto

2008-12-13, 11:37

Be a little selfish. Get a tiny bit mad. At this rate he could walk all over her and she'd still be that pure essence of happiness she's always been.

Just for the record, I actually though the same myself while watching this. It's not like you can't reach a middle point where you can be understanding and at the same point getting your point across. But aw well, it should be compensated later on I hope.

Anyway, I think that you would enjoy this series if you watched it in just a few sits when it finishes airing, rather than following it week to week.

Haru~

2008-12-13, 11:43

Nobody's thinking that you were Mr. Burns. I think. Trust me too. :heh::p

Yeah, I don't like her. At all. I still think she's the weakest link of the entire show, even when she's supposed to be the complete opposite.
You said the reason why she's the weakest link for you. Even though she changed.

But I do like Tomoya, so I'm going to keep watching.
Really now, unexpected to hear after you just said this episode
And seriously, the highlight of this episode was him making a mistake at work?That's it? You ignore Tomoya's hard work.

So as a word to the wise you don't need to quote every line I say individually in an attempt to sort me out, because I know what you guys are getting at.
It's fun doing this and I appreciate that you called me wise though I'm really not.:p:heh: And no, I'm not trying to kick you out, I'm advising you, recommending you another series, because I read your disappointments in the story particularly the lead Nagisa.
Trust me too. :p

SageGaiGar

2008-12-13, 12:19

Ok guys, I know you probably think I'm sitting on the other side of the monitor here tapping my fingers together muttering 'Excellent' to myself like I'm Mr. Burns, but I'm not.

It's just as 'cookie cutter' as shit like Naru and Keitaro are, well Nagisa doesn't come off as a wholly unique individual either. Yeah, I don't like her. At all. I still think she's the weakest link of the entire show, even when she's supposed to be the complete opposite.

But I do like Tomoya, so I'm going to keep watching.

So as a word to the wise you don't need to quote every line I say individually in an attempt to sort me out, because I know what you guys are getting at.

Trust me.

;p

I can understand your feelings about Nagisa as a character. I kind of felt she was too typical of ye olde standard female heroine, nothing new and kind of 'meh'. For me though, I did start liking the theatre aspect from last season, maybe cause I've worked backstage a little. Almost wished that was brought out more. It made her more unique. Her persona hasn't really been that strong so it's difficult to get excited.. does that make sense? Yet, slowly over the last season I did start to appreciate the character a little more. Still not my favorite but her development (however faint) was interesting.

Just curious though, Chibi, who did you like better? (among the cast)

Kinny Riddle

2008-12-13, 13:41

For f*ck's sake Master Chibi, we're getting sick of tired of you coming in and dissing every aspect of Nagisa's character every week solely based on the fact that your Kyou did not win Tomoya's heart way back in episode 18 of series 1, and nothing else.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but as Nochgo says, when everyone is enjoying how good the story is, and you come in and sing the opposite solely because of your near irrational dislike for Nagisa, then you can't really complain about everyone else having a go at you.

My advice, give it up before you get disappointed further. This is Clannad, not School Days.

To be fair, when playing the School Life story in the game, compared to the other girls, (Kyou with her flying dictionaries, Tomoyo with her insane skills, Kotomi with her scissors, Yukine with her magic charms, and of course, Fuuko and everything related to her starfishes), Nagisa seemed rather "bland" in comparison.

But I don't know whether scenario writer Maeda Jun was intentional in having Nagisa being "bland" in School Life, once After Story comes in, I really saw Nagisa in a different light, and I grew to like her personality even more, especially her incredible strength in facing the audacity, just like how she was gracefully forgiving, rather than, as Chibi suggests, being shallow and slapping Tomoya right there and then.

Proto

2008-12-13, 13:55

It helps to give a little more spice to the thread. It is thanks to people like him that this doesn't become an exchange of what minute we liked the most, so his participation is welcomed in my opinion. :p

Kristen

2008-12-13, 14:59

Nagisa is a fairly static character, but in ways, that is what makes her so amazing. She is accepting of Tomoya regardless of his flaws, she always tries to put on a smile regardless of what happens in her life, and she always fights, even when she has no hope left. If she got angry at Tomoya for not arriving, then her character would've been severely damaged. Instead of being an amazing person with unconditional love, she'd be your plain old high school teenager.

Some people read this as weakness or stupidity, but I see it as a statement of how much she loves Tomoya.

Lyrical Flandre

2008-12-13, 15:16

Watching at the name plate of Tomoya carefully,
I found it brighter than other plates.
that means the new plate was prepared for Tomoya ,and
he has been accepted as a new colleague, you know.
I'm pleased to find that Kyoto-Animation describes brief scenes elaborately.:)

Shinigami_Mello

2008-12-13, 17:07

I had half a mind to give this episode a 10, but I'm gonna save that score for later on and give this episode a 9.

It was definately a slow paced episode, but I enjoyed it immensly. It's episode's like this that make my whole day brighter, I'm not even joking. The perfect thing to see after just finishing the ACT. (5 hours long, ugh)

I just love both Nagisa and Tomoya too much, so I have no qualms that we dont see the other characters. Sure, I liked them, but to me, it wouldnt be Clannad without Nagisa and Tomoya. <3 It's funny to see Tomoya so enthuisiastic and genuinely happy now. Nagisa has grown since the start of the show, however faint it seems, but I just cant imagine how anyone could dislike her. Ah well, differance of opinons and all.

Meh, 9/10. Akio, thankyou for making me have a nice laugh ;D

PS- And aww, seems like they are censoring Akio's jokes ._.

GameMaster0000

2008-12-14, 05:26

I think after Sanae and Akio run they pass here...
http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/70/9a/4n5a.jpg
here...
http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/0a/0e/4ieq.jpg
and here...
http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/b7/3c/4bqd.jpg
Before go back to front of Furukawa's bread again...

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

2008-12-14, 07:23

http://otonashi.akibakko-storage.net/image/b7/3c/4bqd.jpg
Before go back to front of Furukawa's bread again...

The Little Busters team makes their appearance... again!?

typhonsentra

2008-12-14, 10:02

Light saber duels and putting lizards down girls' shirts are "Adult Fun", gotta love Akio! :heh:

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-14, 10:18

Light saber duels and putting lizards down girls' shirts are "Adult Fun", gotta love Akio! :heh:

Of course. Akio for the win!

destiny4everlove

2008-12-14, 21:14

Episode 11

-Nagisa preparing breakfast for Tomoya every morning is so sweet!! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi00.gif

-Yoshino-sensei is very strict, doesn’t he?

-So now is Nagisa’s turn to support Tomoya. I love how Nagisa worries and cares about Tomoya so much. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi01.gif

-Seeing Nagisa all alone during P.E. made me want to get inside the Clannad world and befriend Nagisa so bad!! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi17.gifNagisa is such a great girl, too bad her classmates fail to see this. :(

-Nagisa worrying about Tomoya being lonely after she leaves his apartment to the point of almost crying was so touching. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi00.gifSo it seems Tomoya is not the only one who is fond of the idea of moving in together ;), I bet Nagisa is fond of that idea too!!! :blush:

-I liked how Yoshino introduced the theme of change into the story :), a theme that has been and will be very important in Clannad.

-Clannad Wars! :heh: Light sabers ftw!! :D Akio is so awesome!! :heh:

-Akio sure has a funny way to keep his marriage fresh! ;) :heh: I wonder if joking with Sanae’s bread is another way in which Akio keeps his marriage fresh. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi34-1.gif

-So running is the way you bond with the Furukawas. :heh:

-Nagisa singing the Founders song was so adorable! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi00.gif Too bad it was in that very moment that Tomoya let her know he might not be able to go the Founders festival. :( But big props to Nagisa for being so understanding about the situation. :)

-Yoshino being understanding about Tomoya’s shoulder and offering his help was so touching. Yoshino-sensei is very strict, but he is also very nice! :)

-Loved how Tomoya took responsibility for his mistake... but I was sad for Nagisa-chan :(, she was really looking forward to their date. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi04.gif

-Nagisa drying off Tomoya’s sweaty forehead was so cute!!! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi00.gif

-I loved how Nagisa was very understanding and didn’t blame or got mad at Tomoya for being very late to their date. Nagisa is such a great girl. :):nod: This episode showed why I love Nagisa so much!http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/tina_0205/monkey%20emoticon/khi9b.gif She is my favorite girl in Clannad!!

-Yay!!:smile: Tomoya earned his coworkers' respect! :)

Guardian Enzo

2008-12-15, 00:33

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-15, 00:35

I know from the movie that this doesn't remain the case forever. Even so, at this point they're more or less sharing a tiny apartment (even if she goes home at night) and for all practical purposes living as husband and wife. But there's no awkwardness, no flirting, no physical attraction of any kind that I can see. Is there an explanation for this in the game? Is it a matter of Tomoya being overly protective of Nagisa given her physical frailty?

You know they're having a two-week hiatus? That's the time they start doing IT. Yes. That's the REAL reason. :heh: Why else?

Ottocycle

2008-12-15, 00:50

I don't mean this as an impertinent question, but - how is it that Tomoya and Nagisa are basically living together and there's no overt or even implicit sexual tension in the relationship? I mean...

I know from the movie that this doesn't remain the case forever. Even so, at this point they're more or less sharing a tiny apartment (even if she goes home at night) and for all practical purposes living as husband and wife. But there's no awkwardness, no flirting, no physical attraction of any kind that I can see. Is there an explanation for this in the game? Is it a matter of Tomoya being overly protective of Nagisa given her physical frailty?
Well, there's the issue of 'improper conduct with the opposite gender' since Nagisa is still schooling. But I think they're just too used to each other to think about it, since they've lived in the same house for at least half a year, know that they won't be separated from each other, and so feel secure even if it's just waiting for Nagisa to graduate.

Guardian Enzo

2008-12-15, 00:54

I'm not sure that "improper conduct" thing holds for girls who have been held back twice - and even if it did, I can't imagine it mattering to a 17 year-old boy. I can see waiting, but not the complete absence of any physical affection at all. Tomoya's job must really be tiring him out...:D

In other news - I miss Sunohara like that little hit of lemon juice or vinegar you add at the end to balance out a heavy or sweet recipe. This story just doesn't feel right without him.

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-15, 00:54

Well, there's the issue of 'improper conduct with the opposite gender' since Nagisa is still schooling. But I think they're just too used to each other to think about it, since they've lived in the same house for at least half a year, know that they won't be separated from each other, and so feel secure even if it's just waiting for Nagisa to graduate.

Oh come on. Nagisa is already 20.
Like she's been withheld for 2 years. So 18+2=20.
And that's coming of age. If anything, Tomoya at 18 is the underage one.

Sunohara's exit comes as relief to me. He's already gone past the freshness period. Actually I don't think...

Kappei will appear after all.

I have a dream... no really, I got this idea below from some random novel.

I'd rather have Shima Katsuki (Kat - shorthand for his nameused in southern parts of Japan sometimes) suddenly declaring he's not dead, the cat's a different matter and then going for any random female cast member of CLANNAD. [except Misae, that'd spoil the fun] Preferably in college. Or as a eikawa-sensei (he does look like one) and going after our yakuza ane-ue. Big LOLZ.

Ottocycle

2008-12-15, 00:57

Oh come on. Nagisa is already 20.
Like she's been withheld for 2 years. So 18+2=20.
And that's coming of age. If anything, Tomoya at 18 is the underage one.
Fact is, she's still in school. Though you might find it acceptable to be done while people are still schooling, the Japanese schools don't. Refer to Tomoyo's game route if you don't get what I mean.

Not to mention the lack of cell phones seem to imply that the timeframe is sometime back as well, which means that this is taken more seriously than you think.

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-15, 01:02

Fact is, she's still in school. Though you might find it acceptable to be done while people are still schooling, the Japanese schools don't. Refer to Tomoyo's game route if you don't get what I mean.

Not to mention the lack of cell phones seem to imply that the timeframe is sometime back as well, which means that this is taken more seriously than you think.

Oh yeah. I forgot. It's like 6 years since I graduated from high school already, and I haven't seen such cases either. I think it could be because the school expelled the couple first.

Lack of cellphones =/= sometime back, it just mean they can't afford the phone/bills.

That's why I want my surprise above. Then Kat can shock everyone by declaring he has a cellphone.

Sinestra

2008-12-15, 11:02

WOW Tomoya kept up with Akio and Sanae's ungodly speed. I love how the neighborhood sees their daily activities as normal now lol. Tomoya looked dead tired afterwards lol i cant blame him Sanae is one hell of a runner.

Light saber duels HELL YEA iv gotta go hang out Akio he has the most fun of any adult i have ever seen. Too bad Tomoya is too slow to dodge lol very funny stuff. Akio has a way of making everyone around him smile and that includes how he keeps his marriage fresh Sanae. Can you blame him with a wife like Sanae?

Tomoya and Nagisa are really growing up right before our eyes. Tomoya and Nagisa are basically living together with her making breakfast every morning and dinner. They are just too damn cute and might be destined for another. Seeing Tomoya taking his job so seriously was a treat but he needs to learn how to balance his time between work and Nagisa. But he made up for it and he learned some valuable life lessons from his co workers. Seeing them walk off at the end left me with a smile im just praying for a happy ending between these two they deserve it. PLus you know Nagisa's family would give them their blessing we thats after Akio tries to kill Tomoya a couple of times first. LOL

Beo

2008-12-15, 14:02

All depends on were you are at. When I transfered to a new high school, I was told by a couple of people to leave this one girl alone or her husband will get mad. They were married just under two years when they both graduated from high school.

This was a rural school with a graduating class size of 35 people in 1974. There were about 12 girls in that class and all were dating someone and me being the newcomer meant I had zero chance of a girl friend. All the parents knew each other and they were the ones that approved or disapproved any relations going on.

The two that got married and had the communities approval to be married and was seen acceptable, school had no say on the matter.

Reckoner

2008-12-15, 17:49

I'm surprised no one really commented on this, but I found some of Tomoya's behavior in this episode peculiar. The moment that made me think this, is the scene where Akio wants to play a prank on Sanae, but Tomoya wants to be "mature" and isn't really into the prank. Does Tomoya think he's being more mature? Is this his way of trying to grow up? Normally he'd oblige to the prank.

Perrhaps I'm misunderstanding the scene's meaning.

-Sho-

2008-12-15, 19:08

Good episode ! Nagisa's father is hilarious as always ^^
Tomoya begins to be an adult !The only thing the couple need is the kiss !

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-15, 21:01

It's funny how people these days basically equate "romance" with "sex", or at the very least, see "sex" as an implicit part of romance. Can't you have romance without sex? Or am I the weird one? I do fancy having a girlfriend and eventually a family, but basically view sex as a necessary irritant to propagate the human species.

It's also interesting how you bring up cultural differences: Japanese schools vs. schools in whatever country you're in. I remember reading on some JET teacher's blog about half the kids in his "ghetto" Japanese middle school being in some sexual relationship. The Japanese are actually regarded by other Asians (especially the Chinese and Koreans) as "sexually promiscuous". Not sure how true that is, but stereotypes persist.

alpie

2008-12-15, 23:22

The japanese are viewed as "sexually promiscuous" for most asians I believe.Asians are generally more conservative people, and things such as the terribly short skirts in japan and the amount of fanservice in animes are viewed as a sign to them that japanese are promiscuous. Many Chinese and Koreans view the japanese as so, but many others in asia also feel the same way,such as those who practice the religion of Islam.

On another note,I would prefer that the couple do not have any sex until they are married, which i believe would be the case in the anime. That keeps their relationship "pure" and "clean" personally. I am someone more to the conservative side too haha:heh:

Reckoner

2008-12-15, 23:25

I think most psychologists would agree that sex is a very important part of any relationship. Implying that sex is more important today than before is really not founded on anything. People have been interested in sex since the beginning of time...

And I have seen statistics on this, just cannot find it, but most relationships that do badly have bad sexual relations. Yes, sex is not a must, but most couples do have it.

Durex Survey (2003) Highlights:
# People have sex an average of 127 times a year.
# Three quarters of those polled are happy with their sex lives.
# Eastern Europeans (Hungarians, Bulgarians, and Russians) are the most sexually active (150).
# David Beckham was chosen as the sexiest man. George Clooney and Ben Affleck round out the top three.
# Jennifer Lopez was chosen as the sexiest woman. Catherine Zeta Jones came in second. Halle Berry and Britney Spears tied for third place.
# 45% of those taking the survey reported having a one night stand.
# Those in Thailand, China, and Vietnam were the most contented with their sex life.
# Fins and Russians were the least happy.
# Americans were low on the frequency list in 2003 at 118 times per year.
# The three countries with the lowest sexual frequency were Sweden (102), Maylasia (100), and Singapore (96).
# 48% of women admitted to faking an orgasm.

According to the Durex Survey (2001):
# Americans appear to have the most sex at 132 times a year, with the Russians close behind at 122 times a year, the French at 121, and the Greeks at 115.
# The countries with the lowest frequency of sex are Japan (37 times per), Malaysia (62) and China (69).
# Couples living together report having sex 146 times per year.
# Married couples make love 98 times per year.
# Single folks are having sex the least at 49 times a year.
# Four percent of the respondents to the survey claim to have sex daily.
# 57% say they have sex at least once per week.
# "People around the world would rather go out with their friends than have sex. More than a fifth (22%) choose their peers rather than having sex with a partner (19%), while a further 10% prefer to either play sport or go shopping."

Anyhow, to be more on topic.

It is no wonder why people have trouble looking at this entirely too pure of a relationship in this show. Nagisa is the perfect innocent girl, and Tomoya appears to show zero sexual interest in Nagisa. I suppose this is the crystallization of human fantasizing, a relationship mainly based on love and not lust. It fits with the show since it is already magical, but then again, the show does try to take itself very seriously.

I hope we start to see some angst in this relationship soon to make it more interesting, the show so far is being held up by Tomoya's experiences in the adult world.

ZephyrLeanne

2008-12-15, 23:48

It's also interesting how you bring up cultural differences: Japanese schools vs. schools in whatever country you're in. I remember reading on some JET teacher's blog about half the kids in his "ghetto" Japanese middle school being in some sexual relationship. The Japanese are actually regarded by other Asians (especially the Chinese and Koreans) as "sexually promiscuous". Not sure how true that is, but stereotypes persist.

Hey, it's kinda sort of truth, you know? Because in some schools I visited towards the far north of Japan, things like these do happen, simply they're in some secluded place in Japan. Like, far away from the sea = more likelihood of this happening [FYI, all major cities in Japan have access to a sea (and a port)]

It's also kinda of true that
The japanese are viewed as "sexually promiscuous" for most asians I believe.Asians are generally more conservative people, and things such as the terribly short skirts in japan and the amount of fanservice in animes are viewed as a sign to them that japanese are promiscuous. Many Chinese and Koreans view the japanese as so, but many others in asia also feel the same way,such as those who practice the religion of Islam.
^ Thus far, I noticed that Seoul people are catching up on it too. But it's not going any further. North Korea serves as the buffer between South Korea and China.

Also, another odd trend is that Shanghainese LOVE going out in pajamas. And Singaporeans can wear singlets and flip-flops to the Esplanade Theaters on the Bay like as if they were going to the Durian Farm (who asked the designer to put such a huge durian in the middle of the CBD? :heh::heh::heh:)

I guess it all boils down to local culture.

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-16, 00:00

It is no wonder why people have trouble looking at this entirely too pure of a relationship in this show. Nagisa is the perfect innocent girl, and Tomoya appears to show zero sexual interest in Nagisa. I suppose this is the crystallization of human fantasizing, a relationship mainly based on love and not lust. It fits with the show since it is already magical, but then again, the show does try to take itself very seriously.

I had a look at the statistics you provided and they were, well, shocking to say the least.

I wouldn't call a "pure" relationship a "crystallisation of human fantasising". Given your statistics, yes, it is rare... but there are people, however few, who have very little sexual desire. I include myself in that category and thus often find myself confused by and disconnected from the increasingly sexualised world of my friends (now that we're 20 and in university). I'm not going to go into details because this isn't a medical or personal forum, but suffice to say that I am physiologically normal and do take an interest in girls, just not a sexual one.

As further evidence, I worked and slept in the same bedroom as my parents until I was 10 or so (we used to have a one-bedroom flat in super-dense Hong Kong), and never once was traumatised...

Anyhow, to tie my blabbing back to Clannad, the so-called "pure" relationship between Tomoya and Nagisa is entirely possible, if not exactly common.

MeoTwister5

2008-12-16, 10:58

I had a look at the statistics you provided and they were, well, shocking to say the least.

I wouldn't call a "pure" relationship a "crystallisation of human fantasising". Given your statistics, yes, it is rare... but there are people, however few, who have very little sexual desire. I include myself in that category and thus often find myself confused by and disconnected from the increasingly sexualised world of my friends (now that we're 20 and in university). I'm not going to go into details because this isn't a medical or personal forum, but suffice to say that I am physiologically normal and do take an interest in girls, just not a sexual one.

As further evidence, I worked and slept in the same bedroom as my parents until I was 10 or so (we used to have a one-bedroom flat in super-dense Hong Kong), and never once was traumatised...

Anyhow, to tie my blabbing back to Clannad, the so-called "pure" relationship between Tomoya and Nagisa is entirely possible, if not exactly common.

Gah. You and I have so much alike it's almost scary.

I have a similar sounding philosophy of sorts, but in a way that seems more radical than most people in my country I think.

Truth is, I've never had a serious, romantic and exclusive relationship with any girl. I'm not ashamed to admit this fact, at my age of 24 years old. I never really subscribed to the notion of a very sexual and en masse dating relational lifestyle that seems to be the norm, especially in a Westernized society. In majority of my romantic attempts I was usually eclipsed by my friends and peers (I get along with everybody of different walks, lives and attitudes) who were more good looking, more athletic, more intelligent etc etc. I'm the jack of all trades sort of guy who does everything well but masters none so I'm not the first guy who usually gets noticed by the opposite sex.

I don't really mind though. I have a different philosophy anyway. I don't easily get attracted to women nor do I jump at the chance for an intimate relationship. It's a belief and state of mind that's hard to put into words so I won't talk about it much, but only to say that I also don't believe in an adamantly sexual relationship. I'd like to believe that sex isn't the pinnacle and proof of love between 2 human beings.

@topic

Anyways, considering that we'll have a 2 week hiatus between 12 and 13, episode 12 better be good enough for the winter break, and episode 13 better be worth the wait.

And honestly if I were Tomoya near the end apologizing to Nagisa when she decides to wipe the sweat of his brow and sharing the grilled corn, I'd probably be crying.

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

2008-12-16, 22:34

Gah. You and I have so much alike it's almost scary.

I have a similar sounding philosophy of sorts, but in a way that seems more radical than most people in my country I think.

Truth is, I've never had a serious, romantic and exclusive relationship with any girl. I'm not ashamed to admit this fact, at my age of 24 years old. I never really subscribed to the notion of a very sexual and en masse dating relational lifestyle that seems to be the norm, especially in a Westernized society. In majority of my romantic attempts I was usually eclipsed by my friends and peers (I get along with everybody of different walks, lives and attitudes) who were more good looking, more athletic, more intelligent etc etc. I'm the jack of all trades sort of guy who does everything well but masters none so I'm not the first guy who usually gets noticed by the opposite sex.

I don't really mind though. I have a different philosophy anyway. I don't easily get attracted to women nor do I jump at the chance for an intimate relationship. It's a belief and state of mind that's hard to put into words so I won't talk about it much, but only to say that I also don't believe in an adamantly sexual relationship. I'd like to believe that sex isn't the pinnacle and proof of love between 2 human beings.

@topic

Anyways, considering that we'll have a 2 week hiatus between 12 and 13, episode 12 better be good enough for the winter break, and episode 13 better be worth the wait.

And honestly if I were Tomoya near the end apologizing to Nagisa when she decides to wipe the sweat of his brow and sharing the grilled corn, I'd probably be crying.

^^ Man, it sounds like what KGNE could have been... no, maybe not. Nevermind.

Anyways, I don't know about you, but I'll wait until 13 broadcasts to watch 12 and 13.

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-17, 12:01

Gah. You and I have so much alike it's almost scary.

What... anime-loving, sex-avoiding medics? W00t.

It's a good thing the hiatus will be next week and not this week. Need my weekly dose of Clannad to reward myself after exams. And then I'll be off watching a couple months' worth of J-doramas with my parents whilst waiting for the next Clannad installment...

cbatty

2008-12-17, 16:33

What... anime-loving, sex-avoiding medics? W00t.

It's a good thing the hiatus will be next week and not this week. Need my weekly dose of Clannad to reward myself after exams. And then I'll be off watching a couple months' worth of J-doramas with my parents whilst waiting for the next Clannad installment...

Grats on finishing exams :D
One more ep of Clannad AS before the break will be a nice reward... don't forget the last episode of KGNE Next Season is due out any day now also... (now that has been a long time between drinks)

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

2008-12-17, 22:55

What... anime-loving, sex-avoiding medics? W00t.

It's a good thing the hiatus will be next week and not this week. Need my weekly dose of Clannad to reward myself after exams. And then I'll be off watching a couple months' worth of J-doramas with my parents whilst waiting for the next Clannad installment...
^^ First time I hear parents watching J-dramas. I thought they always watched K-dramas. Like all the females over 20 in my family.

Yukinokesshou

2008-12-18, 00:37

^^ First time I hear parents watching J-dramas. I thought they always watched K-dramas. Like all the females over 20 in my family.

Well, my mum and aunt (mum's sister) have always been interested in josei stuff for as long as I can remember. They absolutely love stories like Nodame Cantabile and Honey and Clover :heh:. I distinctly recall Mum reading josei manga whilst five-year-old me snuggled against her in bed. Actually, my aunt is still my go-to person regarding manga (though not anime). Mum's a lot busier these days.

My paternal family, however, is your typical K-drama-loving, Japan-hating Chinese household.

I wouldn't be caught dead with "bishoujo" stuff by either family, though I suspect Mum might actually like Clannad - at least After Story - if she could see past the genre's negative stereotype!

kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

2008-12-18, 00:57

Well, my mum and aunt (mum's sister) have always been interested in josei stuff for as long as I can remember. They absolutely love stories like Nodame Cantabile and Honey and Clover :heh:. I distinctly recall Mum reading josei manga whilst five-year-old me snuggled against her in bed. Actually, my aunt is still my go-to person regarding manga (though not anime). Mum's a lot busier these days.

My paternal family, however, is your typical K-drama-loving, Japan-hating Chinese household.

I wouldn't be caught dead with "bishoujo" stuff by either family, though I suspect Mum might actually like Clannad - at least After Story - if she could see past the genre's negative stereotype!

^^ Not that. My family finds J-drama BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING! :heh::heh:

No, really!

Ascaloth

2008-12-18, 02:12

Late this week because of certain difficulties I'm facing, but Episode 11 article is up:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD ~After Story~, Episode 11 (http://www.riuva.com/?p=1334)

It's not often you get to see in fiction just how much of an impact real life can have on a relationship. 9/10

Mushi

2009-02-14, 04:06

Does anyone know what's up with the widescreen versions? I left off at episode 10 because I prefer to wait for WS. But, 8 episodes behind is a bit much.

Tempester

2009-02-14, 08:22

Does anyone know what's up with the widescreen versions? I left off at episode 10 because I prefer to wait for WS. But, 8 episodes behind is a bit much.

I sympathize with you. Eclipse and Static Subs are now 5 episodes behind in the widescreen After Story department. They haven't released a WS Clannad episode in over a month. Possible reasons for this are:

1. They are too busy subbing so many episodes that they don't have the time.

2. They can't be bothered and don't care for those people out there (like you and me) who actually wait for WS release before watching.

Actually, since they have already subbed the 4:3 episodes, all they really have to do is get the RAW widescreen episodes from the internet and attach their own subs (timing and all) to them. Minus downloading it would take around a mere 1 hour or less to mix the subs for both MKV and AVI for one episode. Then, take 46 minutes to watch through both versions of the episode and see if there are any problems with the playback or sync.

All in all, less than 2 hours. And merely one person with little skill has to do that, while the rest of the subbing team works on the more urgent stuff like the 4:3 Clannad episodes and A Certain Magical Index.

That's why I'm inclined to think that the situation above is actually #2. It's such a pity they are lagging behind on this. Yes, they are prompt for everything else but there is a small audience that can wait for the WS episodes and we mustn't be punished for waiting so long.

Also, I got a negative rep for my similar previous comment on this subbing back in the episode 3 thread. The person said I was "ungrateful" since Eclipse is prompt for their other releases. To that person: Yes, I know Eclipse are prompt about their other releases, but that isn't a good enough excuse when you only need ONE person with little timing and subbing skills to attach the subs to a raw within a mere 2 hours. Just as people have the right to expect a prompt release for the more "urgent" shows such as Clannad in 4:3 and A Certain Magical Index, I have the same right to expect a prompt release of Clannad in WS.

Mushi

2009-02-14, 08:33

I don't know what their reasons might be, or how much work it takes to do the WS subs. If it's because they think nobody cares about them, then maybe a gentle reminder is in order.

Yo, Eclipse! We are out here... waiting... we want our widescreen Clannad AS. Puh-LEEEZ!

Mushi

2009-02-15, 07:07

So the missing Clannad AS widescreen episodes remain a mystery? Nobody has a clue?

There's no info at the Eclipse site. I was going to ask at the Static Subs forum, but registration is disabled.

Tempester

2009-02-15, 07:40

So the missing Clannad AS widescreen episodes remain a mystery? Nobody has a clue?

There's no info at the Eclipse site. I was going to ask at the Static Subs forum, but registration is disabled.

I asked on the Q & A forum for a way of contacting the subbers. Don't lose hope. I also want the episodes in WS. Clannad was never meant to be 4:3. ;_;

Ithekro

2009-02-15, 07:53

I posed your question in the Episode 18 thread because that is where everyone is. Perhaps you will get a response.

Tempester

2009-02-15, 08:08

Thanks a bunch. I owe you one, Ithekro. :D

Here's a cookie.

VRMN

2009-02-15, 12:29

While Eclipse's reasons for being behind on the Clannad widescreen releases is not anything I am privy to, though I suspect not placing a very high priority on the rerelease is the primary reason.

However, I can tell you that, while they're not listed on AnimeSuki because they're not a group, there are people who are taking that 2 hours you described with Eclipse's subs and releasing a widescreen version usually within a day or so of the widescreen raw release. They've released through episode 15, which I believe is the most recent widescreen airing. If you know where to look (I believe saying anything more here is against the rules), finding them shouldn't be difficult, though I can't speak to seeding since I haven't downloaded them myself.