Love Hina

[Vexx]

It remains one of the most popular series on the manga racks even after 10 years so "failure" is relative (though Naruto and Bleach are also popular on the racks so meh).

I'll just keep repeating its one of his earlier works and it was released in 1998-2001 so you have to frame it against other 'harem' manga not based on any erogame of the time. Its certainly a rambling mess and *at the time* it wasn't really clear that Naru would be the girl he finished out with. Nowadays with all the staple clues that most harem anime romances provide - its more rare not to guess the winning girl on the first episode.

Informational wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hina

[ironbomb]

Maybe thats why I was more fond of Ichigo100% and even I's. I dont see how those two stories are consider less popular than Love Hina. Almost everyone that I have discussed/chatted with stated that Love Hina is consider average at best. I dont know understand why its such a popular manga.
I wouldnt necessary call it a failure since it does have some good comedy scenes and moments. The character designs are consider good at the time as well. All it lacked like I have stated a few times, a storyline that flowed. Everything after he got accepted to Toudai and Mutsumi revealing that she wasnt and Naru was the "promised girl" was just pretty much fillers, didnt develop the plot at all...until the final volume and for most of that was pretty bad until like the last 5-6 chapters.

[tripperazn]

My hypothesis is that Love Hina just isn't the type of material that you look back on and think fondly of it. It's really only somewhat entertaining when you're actually reading the manga. Honestly, I've read through the manga twice and I hardly remember more than a vague idea of the story in between the beginning and the end.

Love Hina is more popular than Ichigo 100% and I"s because it's more groundbreaking. Akamatsu Ken did somewhat develop the harem genre further (sounds like an oxymoron I know) and increase it's popularity. I mean Tenchi Muyo wouldn't be considered "good" by any standards we use today, but way back when, it was pretty popular.

[Vexx]

If you'll notice in Negima, it doesn't appear that Ken A. has learned a great deal (or perhaps he has in terms of commercially driven storylines). The Negima story is taking wide rambling detours and its almost as if the initial plot has been forgotten in the details of all the focus derail. The sheer number of girls is taking a bit of a toll on the story line and proper attention to the characters themselves and their individual evolution.

But..... only looking at Negima in comparison to its ancestor Love Hina ... don't want to derail into a Negima thread :)

I"s seemed to work somewhat well though I had some trouble taking the "antagonists" seriously. OTOH, Ichigo 100% just kind of blew up and died partway through for me. Very interesting premise and character design -- but the author didn't seem to have any idea how to converge on a solution which is interestingly, somewhat like your complaint about Love Hina :)

If I were editing Love Hina as a whole.... there's probably about 4 books of material segments I would have totally dropkicked and a few critical scenes I would have added (and that was if I'd stuck to the existing ending) just to make the story flow better and converge more smoothly.

Tripperazn is quite right -- that the time of release is pretty important. Heck, Spencer's Faerie Queen, Beowulf, Canterbury Tales... heck, Dickens and Mark Twain stories are all absolutely brilliant classics --- but can be quite a hard go and often paced so slowly as to be mind-numbing to the modern reader.

[ironbomb]

My hypothesis is that Love Hina just isn't the type of material that you look back on and think fondly of it. It's really only somewhat entertaining when you're actually reading the manga. Honestly, I've read through the manga twice and I hardly remember more than a vague idea of the story in between the beginning and the end.

Love Hina is more popular than Ichigo 100% and I"s because it's more groundbreaking. Akamatsu Ken did somewhat develop the harem genre further (sounds like an oxymoron I know) and increase it's popularity. I mean Tenchi Muyo wouldn't be considered "good" by any standards we use today, but way back when, it was pretty popular.

It definitely isnt something I would go and reread unless there was a SERIOUS debate on it...a whole new full discussion which by no means is gonna occurr. Sadly, I didnt even find it that amusing when reading it through, more of forcing myself to finish it so I can start on something new. lol Sadly here as well that I have to agree. I finished the manga LESS than 5days ago and im already forgotten most of the details of the manga. I look for the character developments alot in the manga and I felt that NONE of the main leads really changed much from beginning to end. The female characters, other than Naru all changed a bit which I am surprised to see since the story didnt revolve around them while the main leads had no change at all.

What do you mean that Love Hina is "groundbreaking"? I believe I's was out before it and Ichigo100% finished around the same time Love Hina finished(dont remember exactly...). Ichigo100% is definitely alot more composed and I didnt feel much drag, not even with the indecisiveness of Manaka. The closure for Ichigo100% might not have satisfied majority of the readers(not even me the first few times I read it..) but It definitely left us a feeling to want to continue and wonder what happens...Didnt even get a glimpse of that feeling anywhere near love hina.
There was nothing new introduced in Love Hina that would consider "new" that I did not notice in Ichigo100% and I's combine. Love Hina was just more of s hysterical laugh at best. If he put it under the comedy genre WITHOUT romance, then I would have looked at the manga in a different perspective and would have rate it so much better. The manga would have been so much better if it was a straight up comedy without all the false romantic moments.


If you'll notice in Negima, it doesn't appear that Ken A. has learned a great deal (or perhaps he has in terms of commercially driven storylines). The Negima story is taking wide rambling detours and its almost as if the initial plot has been forgotten in the details of all the focus derail. The sheer number of girls is taking a bit of a toll on the story line and proper attention to the characters themselves and their individual evolution.

But..... only looking at Negima in comparison to its ancestor Love Hina ... don't want to derail into a Negima thread

I"s seemed to work somewhat well though I had some trouble taking the "antagonists" seriously. OTOH, Ichigo 100% just kind of blew up and died partway through for me. Very interesting premise and character design -- but the author didn't seem to have any idea how to converge on a solution which is interestingly, somewhat like your complaint about Love Hina

If I were editing Love Hina as a whole.... there's probably about 4 books of material segments I would have totally dropkicked and a few critical scenes I would have added (and that was if I'd stuck to the existing ending) just to make the story flow better and converge more smoothly.

Tripperazn is quite right -- that the time of release is pretty important. Heck, Spencer's Faerie Queen, Beowulf, Canterbury Tales... heck, Dickens and Mark Twain stories are all absolutely brilliant classics --- but can be quite a hard go and often paced so slowly as to be mind-numbing to the modern reader.

That is probably one of the reasons why I WONT pick up Negima. I would probably die from how draggy it would feel rather than enjoy and laugh my way through it.

I's - Antagonist as in the stalker or the film industry(dont know what to call them..)? I felt that it was a realistic request that Isai made....will leave it at that since I would end up talking about the whole storyline if I kept going.
Ichigo100% - Totally different than Love Hina. I didnt get that draggy feeling at all(even though alot of people would love to beg to differ). Reason might be that I read it in ONE sitting on contrary to waiting chapter by chapter to come out(I read Love Hina in one sitting as well). The flow of the manga didnt seize for me and the characters all develop slowly but surely over the course of the manga. Comparing how they where in the beginning to how they where in the end of the manga, they are like a new person...Love Hina's characters didnt really change much over the course of the whole manga which disappointed me as well.

I actually agreed with another buddy I met in another forums while discussing Love Hina. Everything after volume 7(dont remember exactly the chapter/volume), when they found out they got accepted to Toudai and Keitaro/Naru learned that they ARE the "promised pairing", would have been a great end with a few things added towards that. Instead of going off to introduced the other characters background information and absurd reasons for wanting Keitaro.....

I agree that the period in time the manga is release makes a difference but Love Hina was release around the same time as I's/Ichigo100%.....if it was release 10 years BEFORE it, then I would might appreciate this work a bit more...

[Vexx]

Love Hina was released in 1998 and ran through 2001.

I"s Pure ran in 2005-2006 (wait that was the anime) ... (I suppose you mean the original I"s manga back from 1997-1999).

Ichigo 100% ran from 2002-2005.

I'm going to guess you mean the original I"s manga which is the only one that did precede Love Hina. Honestly, I don't know WHY Love Hina is groundbreaking but it happened to "catch the wave" and coasted to a level of insane popularity. I remember it was a *huge* deal when the anime production was announced. It also really spurred the idea of voice actresses as idols in themselves with the live tour and whatnot.
So synchronicity, timing, and just lucky seem to be as important as any content merit. As far as American fans.... the manga was one of Tokyopop's early releases and people tend to remember more fondly the first harem manga/anime they've seen (even if its derivative).

Heh, I'm not trying to defend Love Hina as quality --- just that it was in the right place and time for it to rocket. Personally, outside of a couple of the girl's arcs (Motoko, Shinobu) I'm pretty neutral about the rest of the product.

[ironbomb]

Love Hina was released in 1998 and ran through 2001.

I"s Pure ran in 2005-2006 (wait that was the anime) ... (I suppose you mean the original I"s manga back from 1997-1999).

Ichigo 100% ran from 2002-2005.

I'm going to guess you mean the original I"s manga which is the only one that did precede Love Hina. Honestly, I don't know WHY Love Hina is groundbreaking but it happened to "catch the wave" and coasted to a level of insane popularity. I remember it was a *huge* deal when the anime production was announced. It also really spurred the idea of voice actresses as idols in themselves with the live tour and whatnot.
So synchronicity, timing, and just lucky seem to be as important as any content merit. As far as American fans.... the manga was one of Tokyopop's early releases and people tend to remember more fondly the first harem manga/anime they've seen (even if its derivative).

Heh, I'm not trying to defend Love Hina as quality --- just that it was in the right place and time for it to rocket. Personally, outside of a couple of the girl's arcs (Motoko, Shinobu) I'm pretty neutral about the rest of the product.

Yes, I was referring to the manga and not the anime since I havent seen any of the animes for I's or Love Hina but I rather not have seen the anime for Ichigo100%(but I wouldnt of picked up Ichigo100% if it wasnt for the anime...).
Thanks for doing the year checks for me.. was going to do it later myself xD. Sadly, I didnt even realize that Ichigo100% ended just over 2years ago...seem alot older than that wow. Does it have something to do with the nudity...yea..it probably did catch the audience more that way blahz. Im just disappointed by how much "HYPE" I was given before I even started the manga. I heard sooo many good reviews about it and just been knocked down HARD. Its just shocking to me why it would arouse so many peoples attention when its at best, considered "AVERAGE".

Do you recommend watching the anime? I heard they portray Shinobu in a better way...more of an actualy competitor in the anime. I highly doubt it would be the first harem/romance anime the audience have ever seen...especially in Japan. I know genres similar to romance are usually frown upon when made into anime since its not as exciting to watch as Fights/Sports....even more as an american myself.

I like Shinobu too and after thinking about the manga some more, I like the way Motoko changed from the beginning of the manga towards the end. The way Motoko was at the end of the manga was quite attractive too..but nothing like Shinobu ^^.

[Vexx]

The anime Love Hina varied greatly from episode to episode ... some were very satisfying, others were "why did I just waste 30 minutes?". The series and OVAs do really come to a satisfactory conclusion and the anime series "climax" is pretty much anime-only and required some leaps of character behavior. The animated character design and animation is not stellar.... but the very first Motoko-focus ep is nice homage to the old Samurai films of the 1930s.

If you've got a few hours to kill, the LH Perfect Collection can be interesting with appropriate fast-forward and such. Its got an un-aired Motoko-focus episode I'm a bit fond of. Of course, I'm biased --- I'll just watch the Motoko/Shinobu segments and zzzzzz through the rest :)

[ironbomb]

blahz thats bad lol... no flow in the anime as well =/...I need a consistant plot going instead of things jumping from one to another with no revelance to each other =/...

[Vexx]

I'd come a lot closer to recommending a few series that aren't "harem" as such... like Lovely*Complex, REC, Lamune (based on harem material but collapsed to one path), and such in terms of constantly evolving plot.

[ironbomb]

will note those 3 down...Currently got a few I wanna read too hehe...reading Tsuiteru Kanojo atm...wow.. after chapter 2 im already surprised...neways thats another manga and to be left out of here xD.

Edit: could you provide a summary of what the stories about of the 3... or just a link to a picture/summary...if not its kool, could look later.. just lazy xD.

[Vexx]

For more viewpoints, check out the forum threads on each but very briefly:
Lovely*Complex, REC, Lamune
1) Lovely*Complex: comedic romance about a short guy and a tall girl, great side characters, straight ahead plot --- great dialog (set in Kansai region with Kansai-ben).
24 episodes.

2) REC: tightly written comedy romance between an advertising guy and a voice actress. Direct homage to the old Cary Grant + Audrey Hepburn romantic comedies.
Nine 15 minute episodes.

3) Lamune: based on an erogame but the story is collapsed into one path between two friends who grow up next door to each other. Just a nice slow-paced steady romance.

[ironbomb]

For more viewpoints, check out the forum threads on each but very briefly:
Lovely*Complex, REC, Lamune
1) Lovely*Complex: comedic romance about a short guy and a tall girl, great side characters, straight ahead plot --- great dialog (set in Kansai region with Kansai-ben).
24 episodes.

2) REC: tightly written comedy romance between an advertising guy and a voice actress. Direct homage to the old Cary Grant + Audrey Hepburn romantic comedies.
Nine 15 minute episodes.

3) Lamune: based on an erogame but the story is collapsed into one path between two friends who grow up next door to each other. Just a nice slow-paced steady romance.

ah I see, they are anime hehe..I thought they are manga. Im not to fond on watching romance series animes...I get bored of them quick..but really loved/enjoy to read them..yea it sounds weird =/...but I might decide to give lovely complex a shot..sounds great...Rec might be the one to start with since its short hehe.

[tripperazn]

If you have a tendency to get bored of romances, Ramune is probably not for you. While it's kind of a harem (as in the source material was galge), the other characters don't really pose much of a threat at all.

If you want to read manga, REC/Rekku originated as a manga. I've only watched the anime, but the manga is also decent I hear.

[Vexx]

Aye.. sorry about mixing them up .... Lamune is a slow-paced anime (no manga that I know of).

REC ... I've got the first six volumes (Japanese only) .... it goes much farther than the anime (which is a great introduction).

Lovely*Complex is available (manga) in both english (first few volumes) and japanese.
The anime series is pretty quick and lively though it is 24 eps.

[ironbomb]

Do you suggest reading the manga or watching the anime first. I probably would have some time after my finals next week....

[Vexx]

REC .. I'd watch the anime first and then read the manga. The anime is a shorthand of the first volume.

Lovely*Complex.... hmmmm, I'm going to say watch the anime first .... then the manga seems like an extended expanded version and you won't be so annoyed with the shortcuts. I believe the anime was produced after the manga run ended in Japan so it follows the general plotline of the manga.

That was another reason the anime version of Love Hina fell short in some people's eyes.... the series failed to follow the manga (anime-only ending) and then the OVAs failed to make up for that even though the manga *was* complete. A lot of fans wanted to see the epilog animated.

We're really kind of off-topic now and should steer back to Love Hina manga. If you have any other questions about the above recommended series, jump over to their associated threads. :)

[ironbomb]

Thanx..now, time to get the anime lol.

edit: yea we did lol.

Well, I was just thinking about Suu and I dont remember the reason why she was there in the first place..then the same question arrived when I thought about Shinobu. What was there reason to go there, not to stay there for Keitaro..but the reason they first decided to stay in the dorm?

[Vexx]

Best as I can remember without flipping pages, she was simply there as a foreign exchange student and that was just the random place her handlers found that was "suitable" and relatively protected so she could live near where she attended school.

[3:16]

It remains one of the most popular series on the manga racks even after 10 years so "failure" is relative (though Naruto and Bleach are also popular on the racks so meh).


Sure!That's relative.But on my own,I think that was a "failure",compared to Negima! or Itsudatte My Santa(yeah,you might think i'm strange...).And I don't speak of Naruto...For Godsake,this is pure shit(excuse my language,but I don't find any other word that could describe that...serie...)

[ironbomb]

Sure!That's relative.But on my own,I think that was a "failure",compared to Negima! or Itsudatte My Santa(yeah,you might think i'm strange...).And I don't speak of Naruto...For Godsake,this is pure shit(excuse my language,but I don't find any other word that could describe that...serie...)

You shouldnt compare Negima! to Love Hina since one was a much earlier work, probably one of his first projects...gosh cant believe im supporting love hina in this point.

But I agree that love hina is horrible, even might consider it a failure(even though I disagreed in an earlier post...) due to lack of alot of things but its still readable...but not something I would EVER consider rereading.

[Vexx]

There's a reason you'll probably never find me on the "top" anime threads (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc) ... just glancing at the stuff sucks the IQ out of my brain. But enough of that... back to work for me.

[ironbomb]

Best as I can remember without flipping pages, she was simply there as a foreign exchange student and that was just the random place her handlers found that was "suitable" and relatively protected so she could live near where she attended school.

that is only suu's case..which sounds about right...
Shinobu, considering her shy personality at the time, I dont think it was out of her free will/choice that such a thing happened...

[Vexx]

The anime had a fair explanation (divorced parents and trying to stay with her school)

The manga never really said that I recall.

[ironbomb]

The anime had a fair explanation (divorced parents and trying to stay with her school)

The manga never really said that I recall.

definitely didnt, I would recall such a situation...

[karinvampire]

I like this anime but did not really like the manga

[Vexx]

I'll bite and ask why you like the anime better than the manga? :)

I mean there is the voice work and the music which many like. Some of the anime-only stuff is great (like the "old samurai film" opener to the first Motoko-focus episode).

[holyman282]

I like this anime but did not really like the manga

Really? I thought the manga was alot more detailed and conclusive then the anime.

[karinvampire]

I think it was way intertainig to me than manga.

[Aoie_Emesai]

The anime has a few in-depth episodes that doesn't make much sense, like that stupid one with the giant mechanical turtle, but there's the one with the doll "Moe" which didn't appear in the manga at all. For me, I thought that episode was truly the best in the entire series. Manga wise, it was overall better, since more detail was put into the manga, and the story didn't alter too much from the storyline, since it was done by Akamtsu, himself.

[Vexx]

I'll admit that anime or manga, all the Kaolla Su gadget battles, slapstick, and the turtle stuff just annoyed the hell out of me (which is too bad because her core story was kind of interesting). Ah well, if I start picking at everything I didn't like about the series (anime or manga) I'll start wondering what I liked at all.

So I'll just focus on the parts I liked and consider the rest just Ken A. throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.

[Liddo-kun]

Really? I though the manga was alot more detailed and conclusive then the anime.

I have to agree, manga is more detailed in some parts.
Anime skipped some things, unfortunately this also included skipping some of the good scenes. ><

If people want to see the true ending of Love Hina (promise getting fulfilled), they have to see the manga. :)

[ironbomb]

I'll admit that anime or manga, all the Kaolla Su gadget battles, slapstick, and the turtle stuff just annoyed the hell out of me (which is too bad because her core story was kind of interesting). Ah well, if I start picking at everything I didn't like about the series (anime or manga) I'll start wondering what I liked at all.

So I'll just focus on the parts I liked and consider the rest just Ken A. throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.

Sadly, we never heard actually how Suu came up with 1/2 of her eithers other than the turtle lol...actually I would be interested in the list of things you dislike of the manga, ofc only if your willing to list it ^^, wouldnt mind comparing one if I had to create one, pretty sure it would be a LONG 1 =D.

I been wondering, Was any of Keitaro's parents or Naru's parents around during there wedding at the manga? I only saw her sister(barely even read it since it was in such a small text[the scans]) and none of the other family members.

[Asrialys]

I been wondering, Was any of Keitaro's parents or Naru's parents around during there wedding at the manga? I only saw her sister(barely even read it since it was in such a small text[the scans]) and none of the other family members.
Mei was there? Bah, I don't have the last volume with me to see.

[ironbomb]

Mei was there? Bah, I don't have the last volume with me to see.

her first appearance in the whole manga..and I wouldnt have even knew who she was if it wasnt for the translators note that stated who she was lol...that doesnt sound if both sides parents didnt attend the wedding...

[ser4]

a question guys i just finished the anime "love hina" and all the specials and ovas and so i'm wondering whether or not i should read the manga does the anime finish where the manga does or does the manga continue after the anime or do they separate somewhere and each have different ending

[tripperazn]

a question guys i just finished the anime "love hina" and all the specials and ovas and so i'm wondering whether or not i should read the manga does the anime finish where the manga does or does the manga continue after the anime or do they separate somewhere and each have different ending

From the manga perspective, the anime diverged into spoilers and decided to have a canon ending that was extremely rushed and made no sense. A "magic cabin", lol, can you say "deus ex machina"?

If you want the ending to actually make sense, read the manga.

[ironbomb]

Actually, that took place in the manga lol..the ending of the anime(I still havent seen it...) took place in the manga but that wasnt the actual ending...Read it if you liked the anime then you would probably like the manga. I for one, didnt like the manga and would probably be disappointed if I see the anime...

[philmein]

Wow, I just read the entire 14 volumes in a two-day span.
One word: Amazing.

Like everyone said, the manga is by far superior to the anime in all aspects. Hell, blah, infinite times better than the anime. I noticed that the manga had perhaps 60 percent of new content that I did not even see in the anime, not to mention, there weren't any of those lame fillers like in the anime. Most importantly, we learn of the "promise" and get a very, very satisfying ending.

All I can say is that this manga was truly magnificent. It was hilarious throughout. Don't know about you guys, but every "Naru Punch" had been crackin' every single time. I will surely re-read this manga again and again.

[Atsuko]

This is like my 5th time reading through the manga as I write this post. Right now I'm currently on the 13th volume and laughing just as hard when I first bought it. Ken Akamatsu is really good with his Harem series. Wonder if his life was somewhat similar to what he had drawn?

[Forbin]

He failed tokyo U and he worked as a Hentai artist. He married a Shinobu like VA.

So not quite like Keitaro.

[bettyrawr]

Is it just me or is the anime of Love HIna kinda.. perverted? ^^

[ironbomb]

Is it just me or is the anime of Love HIna kinda.. perverted? ^^

its ecchi....

anyways, I cant believe people found the "lack of storyline" so interesting...

[tripperazn]

Actually, that took place in the manga lol..the ending of the anime(I still havent seen it...) took place in the manga but that wasnt the actual ending...Read it if you liked the anime then you would probably like the manga. I for one, didnt like the manga and would probably be disappointed if I see the anime...

Right, I'm not denying that it happened in the manga. I'm saying that they used it to end the anime. The scene did take place in the manga, not as an ending, but as comedy.

@bettyrawr: There's no kinda about it. I think one of Akamatsu's goals was: most amount of fanservice in least amount of panels.

[Vexx]

Is it just me or is the anime of Love HIna kinda.. perverted? ^^

Actually, its just you :) :) :)

The content is risque by some standards but pretty mild by most standards .... "perversion" is a word that gets tossed around too easily these days.

[Mykas]

Actually, its just you

The content is risque by some standards by pretty mild by most standards .... "perversion" is a word that gets tossed around too easily these days.

vexx hit the nail on the head perverted is a word that along with hentai gets abused by people who really have a different standard of what qualifies for those categories than most reasonable people would. the word to describe love hina and a lot of other manga/anime is fanservice and that means showing a little leg or cleavage to excite the fans. if you want perverted try golden boy or read gantz or berserk.

[philmein]

And you know, the I quite enjoyed the fanservice.
Well, actually Su's little gadgets went alittle overboard sometimes...

[bettyrawr]

Well sorrry ¬¬
I really like it though!

[Ichihara]

Well, I think it'll be nice if the the "Mei Storyline" was added to the manga and not only appearing in the anime. However, it seems that Akamatsu has to write some "new" stories in the anime, or else it wouldn't be worth watching much..
Well, it is really just me or the ending of Love Hina ( even in the manga) seems a little rushed? There's quite a lot of character development with Naru, Keitaro, and Suu, but we don't really get to see much of Kitsune...

[ironbomb]

Naru and Keitarou didnt develop much from the beginning to the end of the manga -_-. Shinobu and the kendo girl, dont remember names anymore developed the most. Suu was the change character from beginning to end lol, so is Keitarou and Naru. Kitsune was there for support of Naru and more comedy relief blehz.

[Klashikari]

err... while Naru sure didn't developped much, the differences between keitarou from the start to finish (even if we ignore his "seta mode" for the weddings period) are quite gigantic, so to speak...
I would say that Kitsune was probably the one who didn't change at all, though she didn't need any development tough.

[ironbomb]

I wouldnt say Keitarou changed. He ended up being a replica of seta -_-;, ignoring that how the heck have he changed then lol? I mean yea you can argue that he changed since he isnt the same person but basically becoming the new Seta...but thats just a cheap way to put the manga in that direction and not having to show any progression in his character.

[Klashikari]

I wouldnt say Keitarou changed. He ended up being a replica of seta -_-;, ignoring that how the heck have he changed then lol? I mean yea you can argue that he changed since he isnt the same person but basically becoming the new Seta...but thats just a cheap way to put the manga in that direction and not having to show any progression in his character.
Seriously, keitarou changed like day and night if you compare how he was in volume one compared to volume 9 and volume 10.
True enough, he is still freaked/overreacting on some situations, it isn't something he can actually control (I don't think many manga/anime characters can stay calm with a indian loli who is nuking you with a gigantic turtle mecha).

Keitarou was the cookie cutter loser at the start, taking everything as granted, lying and using cheap things etc. No ill intention, but certainly not reliable.
Things blatantly changed around volume 7 (as he has a true motivation) and then, after the crazy even on parakarasu, he is much more serious and actually caring/getting common sense. This is even more true with 10-12, as he actually try to work for his future, and taking care of both Naru and Kanako. He even hits her when he was chasing Naru, and "wasted" some time with her sister to actually fix everything.

The startng "keitarou" wouldn't be able to do that at all. His "seta mode" is only an exaggeration for the weddings. If you take the "present ploltline" alone, he is still himself, and he obviously progressed.

[Vexx]

Ya'll are both kind of right -- Keitarou did change... but he did take on many aspects of Seta (which isn't really a bad thing -- rather like Gurren-Lagann).

Personally, I also feel like Motoko evolved a great deal during the series (more so than most of the other characters). Shinobu evolved a bit. But the two promise girls evolved hardly at all and the same for the others. So it goes...

[Aoie_Emesai]

Ya'll are both kind of right -- Keitarou did change... but he did take on many aspects of Seta (which isn't really a bad thing -- rather like Gurren-Lagann).

Personally, I also feel like Motoko evolved a great deal during the series (more so than most of the other characters). Shinobu evolved a bit. But the two promise girls evolved hardly at all and the same for the others. So it goes...

Very true. Keitaro and Motoko are the character that grows the most. Su and Kitsune are nothing more than support characters and Haruka.

[Keahi19]

Uhhh hey........... I'd mention Shinobu changing quite a bit during that time. If I may jump into the conversation.

[Ichihara]

Well, my bad. I guess Naru didn't change much. I thought she matured a lot, comparing her to the first manga. Maybe I haven't read it for too long.. ( Lend my collection to a friend)
Didn't all of you love the part at the end of volume 14 in which Keitaro called Naru " Narusegawa", though? I still laugh over that when I read the manga again.

[Keahi19]

I just liked being able to have an ending that had closure, but also was semi-open ended. THat's hard to find.

[holyman282]

I just liked being able to have an ending that had closure, but also was semi-open ended. THat's hard to find.

Are you saying that the manga was semi-open ended? Don't know about you, but the Love Hina ending was pretty conclusive if you ask me.. As conclusive as you can get considering the genre..

[Vexx]

Aye, I didn't see a speck of "open-ended" to the manga O.o

I just hope the rest of them found other fulfilling relationships later.

[ironbomb]

I just liked being able to have an ending that had closure, but also was semi-open ended. THat's hard to find.

..u sure you read the right manga? lol

The conclusion was so clear that I didnt like it.

[Keahi19]

Well for a writer like me I saw many openings in the ending of Love HIna. We never see what the girls relationships in the future were. (Ergo their lives are rather open.) We also see that while attached to Keitaro they are not OVERTLY after him like before. So that leaves open to what their lives are like in the outside. We only get a glimpse of the future.

Also the new girl is a showing of the future. You can take the other girls lives as open ended, or you can take the new girl as open ended. THey explain very little of her life. That leaves other writers toe xpand upon the story themseles. It gives a conclusion to Naru and Keitaro's relationship as solidified, but the other girls are not.

I can come up with several fanfics off the top of my head, without even getting to proffessional writers or manga artists and what they could do with it. I doubt it will continue, but I think the fans now have an opprotunity to expand on it in their own way.

That's what I meant by open ended. And I loved how Shinobu grew out her hair. She was cute. ^_^ And poor girl getting mistaken for a boy. Tsk tsk.

[Forbin]

We also see that while attached to Keitaro they are not OVERTLY after him like before. So that leaves open to what their lives are like in the outside. We only get a glimpse of the future.

Except the Radio drama show's that Mutsumi has not given up even to the last second.

[holyman282]

Well for a writer like me I saw many openings in the ending of Love HIna. We never see what the girls relationships in the future were. (Ergo their lives are rather open.) We also see that while attached to Keitaro they are not OVERTLY after him like before. So that leaves open to what their lives are like in the outside. We only get a glimpse of the future.

Also the new girl is a showing of the future. You can take the other girls lives as open ended, or you can take the new girl as open ended. THey explain very little of her life. That leaves other writers toe xpand upon the story themseles. It gives a conclusion to Naru and Keitaro's relationship as solidified, but the other girls are not.

I can come up with several fanfics off the top of my head, without even getting to proffessional writers or manga artists and what they could do with it. I doubt it will continue, but I think the fans now have an opprotunity to expand on it in their own way.

That's what I meant by open ended. And I loved how Shinobu grew out her hair. She was cute. ^_^ And poor girl getting mistaken for a boy. Tsk tsk.

If you take that as a criteria for a manga being conclusive (i.e. Every single character ever shown in a manga to get a definitive ending) then I can think of no manga that you would consider as being quite conclusive. Isn't it enough that the main characters got conclusive ending? Why is it that the side characters need one too? I mean it would be nice, but not nessecary to define something as being not conclusive, particularly considering the Love Hina ending.

[ironbomb]

Well for a writer like me I saw many openings in the ending of Love HIna. We never see what the girls relationships in the future were. (Ergo their lives are rather open.) We also see that while attached to Keitaro they are not OVERTLY after him like before. So that leaves open to what their lives are like in the outside. We only get a glimpse of the future.

Also the new girl is a showing of the future. You can take the other girls lives as open ended, or you can take the new girl as open ended. THey explain very little of her life. That leaves other writers toe xpand upon the story themseles. It gives a conclusion to Naru and Keitaro's relationship as solidified, but the other girls are not.

I can come up with several fanfics off the top of my head, without even getting to proffessional writers or manga artists and what they could do with it. I doubt it will continue, but I think the fans now have an opprotunity to expand on it in their own way.

That's what I meant by open ended. And I loved how Shinobu grew out her hair. She was cute. ^_^ And poor girl getting mistaken for a boy. Tsk tsk.


So what you are requesting is actually something I am looking for in all other manga that I have enjoyed/finished...examples: 3 romance off the top of my head- I's, Ichigo100% and Suzuka. ALL MANGA would be consider open-ended and inconclusive if we take your criteria to base things on because its impossible to give closure to every character trying to end a manga...that only leads to more questions...the more you know, the less you know =X :D.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely agree that you could come up with several fanfics to follow where the manga left out, I can do the same for the 3 I listed to continue where it left off but by no means does it mean it the manga isnt conclusive. It would be inconclusive if they went back to stage 1, where they werent together and still fighting like they started out to do...I totally agreed that the manga lacked character development for the other characters outside of Shinobu and Motoko(Kendo girl!, hope I got her name right =/). Even now, I still feel that Keitarou didnt change, but instead took the face of Seta -_-;...

[Ichihara]

Yep. The manga is quite conclusive. Motoko, Suu and Shinobu made it to Tokyo U, Kitsune - same old Kitsune, and Naru and Keitaro tied the knot. Although I consider the manga to be conclusive ( Well, it's much more conclusive than the animated version..) I also wish that there could be more. My favourite character being Motoko, I really want to see what happens to her after. ^^ But that's just my person opinion.

[Vexx]

aye, in that the *primary* core storyline was concluded (Keitaro courted, chose, and married one of the girls) by most writing standards that's a "conclusive" ending.
Of course, perhaps later Naru and Keitaro broke up (over domestic abuse :) ) and then Motoko or Shinobu quietly took Keitaro's hand...

... but now we're writing a spin-off or fanfic by most definitions.

[G. Zeus]

Of course, perhaps later Naru and Keitaro broke up (over domestic abuse :) ) and then Motoko or Shinobu quietly took Keitaro's hand...
Or Keitaro could walk the path less taken by choosing polygamy. A happy ending for everybody! :p

[Keahi19]

No no I never said it wasn't conclusive. Closure is the word I used instead. I was saying that it was open ended as in you can expand upon it as a fan, but that if you don't desire to expand on it, you feel the plot has been solved.

That's what I meant.

[Alchemist007]

Ah bumpity once more ^^

I'm just wondering if the Tokyopop translation is as good as the raw. I've been hearing a lot that TP likes to censor or remove things.

[MrTerrorist]

Whoa it's been two years since this forum been updated.

[yezhanquan]

A definite must-read from Akamatsu's canon.

[KimmyChan]

It's an absolute manga classic! I love it! I am wishing that I never got rid of it after I read it though :(

I had all 14 volumes of this...May have to re-buy them all again & not get rid of them this time round :(

[ReddyRedWolf]

A definite must-read from Akamatsu's canon.

Yup you see some Love Hina references in Negima too and wonder if its them.

Namely Setsuna's school Shinmeryuu with a blurred Motoko and Tsuruko in her childhood. (Probably before Motoko ran.)

Haitani appeared and his Van got flipped by Negi.

Seta was a spectator of Kotaro during the Budokan.

And most blatantly is Mei, who could be the stepsister of Naru.

Though I'd dlike to see Sara and Ema expy as well. Sara did mention Seta beat a Dark Organization at Pararakerusu and obtaining a magic shovel. (Pactio artifact?)

[kenjiharima]

Any Mutsumi references on Negima? Dropped Negima and LH manga because of the censorship on the licensed manga.

[Vexx]

LH was the first series I collected. It rambled, derailed, and I got really tired of the "lets beat Keitaro" schtick - but there are arcs and characters I still highly prize (e.g. the Motoko arc, etc). I'd still recommend it as an early read for someone just starting out in manga -- or as a classic read for someone who wants to see where present day manga tropes evolved from (along with Maisson Ikkoku and a few others).

Many people who diss the series I find don't realize its age.

Mutsumi's personality translation into Negima comes out in several characters (you can pretty much map many of the Negima characters back to a particular LH character).

There hasn't been much/any "censorship" of the art in Negima (other than the shrinkwrap "controversy" when it started) ... there *has* been a small amount of dialog sterilization though.

I've never compared the TP version of LH with its japanese original. Was there any art censorship of significance?

[kenjiharima]

There was once an image posted in 4chan long ago comparing the LH and Negima licensed version where the bubble speech was in certain areas which are for fanservice. And yes I recall a Negima character who resembles Mutsumi.

I really like LH, though dropped the manga, but I didn't dropped the anime. The manga is a great read for new and old I also recommend it to others, but I don't tell there's editing done in some parts. Language and grammar revision to make it readable for the general public is ok on my part.

[Alchemist007]

Ah so theres no censoring or anything? (God damnit, I'm the one who bumped this and my post is the last one on the previous page :frustrated:)

[Vexx]

Not going to say there's *no* censoring... only nothing that really stood out for me over 21 volumes so far (in Negima). The speech bubble technique I hadn't really considered though (more often I thought it was a case of fitting english dialog into the bubble). For Negima, they've resorted to shrinkwrap of any particular volume that made the publisher extra nervous. I found that hilarious since these are mostly "14 yr old girls" though 3/4 of them look and act over 18 at the least. Maybe thats a moral lesson about checking ID cards when chatting up girls :)

[Alchemist007]

er....Negima?

[yezhanquan]

Mahou Sensei Negima, Akamatsu's work after Love Hina.

[serenade_beta]

Though I'd dlike to see Sara and Ema expy as well. Sara did mention Seta beat a Dark Organization at Pararakerusu and obtaining a magic shovel. (Pactio artifact?)

It's fine if the mangas use the same type of material/moves or have cameos, but I would not like any of Love Hina's characters actually getting involved in the manga...


er....Negima?

Mahou Sensei Negima, Akamatsu's work after Love Hina.

Though if you liked Love Hina, I would suggest A.I.Love You, not Negima... Although the art is similar (evolved?), it isn't a love-comedy and is pretty much just a long basic shonen series with one shota and lots of girls...
Like the posts near the top, definitely suggest reading Love Hina (and A.I.Love You), but Negima... Well.............................................. ................ *cough*

[yezhanquan]

Aye. I've stopped collecting the volumes after it's clear that Shounen Magazine wants SJ-style hit series.

[ReddyRedWolf]

It's fine if the mangas use the same type of material/moves or have cameos, but I would not like any of Love Hina's characters actually getting involved in the manga...






Though if you liked Love Hina, I would suggest A.I.Love You, not Negima... Although the art is similar (evolved?), it isn't a love-comedy and is pretty much just a long basic shonen series with one shota and lots of girls...
Like the posts near the top, definitely suggest reading Love Hina (and A.I.Love You), but Negima... Well.............................................. ................ *cough*

Volume 6 and 7 is where Cynthia McDougal appear.

It is speculated that she and Sara are related.

[KimmyChan]

My favourite Love Hina girl in the series will always be the brilliant and feisty Naru :D

[Alchemist007]

Well its nice to know the manga has some more maturity. I think it was always a turn off for me to have useless excessive violence (having only seen a couple random eps of the anime).

[Vexx]

Yeah, Negima is running me ragged with all the "shounen" (sorry, but for a long time I thought "fighting stories" were the entirety of anime and they put me to sleep for the most part. Romance, drama, and comedy got me to look twice) I knew the action was going to be part of the story... but not take up whole volumes :P

A.I. isn't too bad though I felt he could have wrapped the story up a bit faster for the plot line it had. I also had to just put on my fantasy lens and lock the AI/engineer/software demons in the closet of my brain. They kept screaming disbelief.

[KimmyChan]

I'm not usually a huge fan of "Harem" manga but I make a huge exception for the wonderful Love Hime :)

[serenade_beta]

http://yunakiti.blog79.fc2.com/blog-entry-6204.html
There is going to be a special chapter for Love Hina (not really sure when though).
Very awesome... Now if Akamatsu would give up Negima and come back to Love Hina full time...

[Freeter]

Now if Akamatsu would give up Negima and come back to Love Hina full time...

But where would he take the story though? Unless Naru gets hit by a truck and Motoko and Shinobu fight to win the newly widowed Keitaro's heart, I'm not interested :heh:

[GreatTeacherKen]

I think Love Hina had a satisfactory and conclusive ending; I don't think it needs a sequel. That being said, I'm curious as to what this special chapter's going to be about.

[cyberdemon]

I think Love Hina had a satisfactory and conclusive ending; I don't think it needs a sequel. That being said, I'm curious as to what this special chapter's going to be about.

Keitaro and Naru having children? it would've been 5 years since they got married (manga time wise they got married in 2005. April 3rd, 2005 to be exact).

[serenade_beta]

But where would he take the story though? Unless Naru gets hit by a truck and Motoko and Shinobu fight to win the newly widowed Keitaro's heart, I'm not interested :heh:

As long as Akamatsu does something of a normal Love-Comedy like AI Love You or Love Hina, I'm all for it.
Maybe a story revolving Ema...? And an male harem! (just joking...)

Your suggestion works.:heh:

[quigonkenny]

Keitaro and Naru having children? it would've been 5 years since they got married (manga time wise they got married in 2005. April 3rd, 2005 to be exact).
Of course, if he ties it in with Negima, as a recent Q&A in Negima suggests they do in fact share a universe, they still haven't gotten married yet, since Negima is still in 2003.

http://yunakiti.blog79.fc2.com/blog-entry-6204.html
There is going to be a special chapter for Love Hina (not really sure when though).
Very awesome... Now if Akamatsu would give up Negima and come back to Love Hina full time...
Never gonna happen. Negima is his magnum opus. It's the ecchi fighting (pinch of romance) manga he's always wanted to write (if the fighting manga aspects of the Aoyamas' and Seta's characters back in LH didn't make it clear enough).

[cyberdemon]

Of course, if he ties it in with Negima, as a recent Q&A in Negima suggests they do in fact share a universe, they still haven't gotten married yet, since Negima is still in 2003.


Never gonna happen. Negima is his magnum opus. It's the ecchi fighting (pinch of romance) manga he's always wanted to write (if the fighting manga aspects of the Aoyamas' and Seta's characters back in LH didn't make it clear enough).

Sharing the same universe is one thing but timeline could be different. LH ended in manga year 2005 with the wedding. So it's natural to assume it could take place after that.

he almost didn't get to write it. The publishers forced him to write another story like Love Hina when he really wanted to write an action manga. He's quite clever with how he gave them what they wanted and then slyly worked his way into what he wanted. lol!

[serenade_beta]

Never gonna happen. Negima is his magnum opus. It's the ecchi fighting (pinch of romance) manga he's always wanted to write (if the fighting manga aspects of the Aoyamas' and Seta's characters back in LH didn't make it clear enough).

Which is very unfortunate...
He clearly does better on love-comedies.

[Freeter]

Which is very unfortunate...
He clearly does better on love-comedies.

I'd like to see another love-com from him. Negima's just too cluttered for me to keep up with anymore.

[cyberdemon]

darn looks like the special chapter is only supposed to be 6 pages long.

I'd like to see another love-com from him. Negima's just too cluttered for me to keep up with anymore.

The publishers originally forced him to do that. He just really wanted to do an action manga and by the time they realized it he'd already led it down the way he wanted it to go,

[Irenicus]

Which is very unfortunate...
He clearly does better on love-comedies.
What, you mean face-in-boobs and beating the crap out of Keitaro every chapter counts as better?

Even if Negima is all messy and annoyingly ecchi at times, it's still practically one of the few manga in the market that captures the spirit of JRPG adventure fun -- far, far better than every uninspired actual JRPG to manga adaptations out there.

[Kusa-San]

http://yunakiti.blog79.fc2.com/blog-entry-6204.html
There is going to be a special chapter for Love Hina (not really sure when though).
Very awesome... Now if Akamatsu would give up Negima and come back to Love Hina full time...

Such a great news ! It's been so long since the last chapter :D

[Shinji103]

Such a great news ! It's been so long since the last chapter :DI must be missing something.....I could've sworn Love Akamatsu wrapped up Love Hina with volume 14 a long time ago. :heh:

Is he doing a new Love Hina-related project? Why after all this time, and why with a series he finished?

Not that I'm complaining, mind you. :p :D

[Fenrir_valindri]

I was rather satisfied with Love Hina and its conclusion, and I love Negima.

That said, I'd love to see more of Motoko and Shinobu.

[OverMaster]

Very awesome... Now if Akamatsu would give up Negima and come back to Love Hina full time...

No. Just No.

Negima has made Akamatsu to grow as an author so much over his Love Hina days it isn't funny. LH had some charm and a few lovable characters, but at the end of the day, it was just another romantic comedy that happened to hit it big at the exact right time (when the genre needed a revival).

[ReddyRedWolf]

Well maybe this time Akamatsu sensei will establish more about his universe. Already Negima has established both Love Hina and Ai ga Tomaranai (AI Love You) co-exists.

I wouldn't mind some cameo of Hitoshi, the Namba sisters and Cindy.

Also wouldn't it be fun to see Mei Sakura as a character in Love Hina rather than a cameo appearance?

What if it is set during 2003 just as Mei returned from magic school? Meeting her sister Naru and the gang?

Oh Sara definitely Sara must come back. She is the basis of several of the Negima girls. Namely Asuna, Eva and Chisame.

[Klashikari]

The LH special has been released today.

Although it was of course a bit predictable right at the start, it was still amusing (I did chuckle about the "true" meaning of D at the end :heh:).
Akamatsu definitely delivered something LH (and not really a mere attempt to make a half ass omake) and it is noteworthy to see how he could keep the original touch, whereas he definitely polished his drawing skills.
Well, one would notice already the stark difference if you were to compare the first chapter of Negima and the 300th chapter (well it was already a giant leap even around the Kyoto arc), but it is even more noticeable in LH case.

It would definitely be nice to see LH and AGT "fully" updated (AGT was a tad misleading with its modern cover, while the original design was surely outdated :heh:).

[jzmagic]

No. Just No.

Negima has made Akamatsu to grow as an author so much over his Love Hina days it isn't funny. LH had some charm and a few lovable characters, but at the end of the day, it was just another romantic comedy that happened to hit it big at the exact right time (when the genre needed a revival).

I have to disagree, I used to read Negima for a while and just couldn't continue anymore. Way too many characters to care about, and it eventually transformed into a full-time action manga.

Love Hina was way better than Negima. I wish he'd conclude it and start a new manga.

[jzmagic]

The LH special has been released today.

Although it was of course a bit predictable right at the start, it was still amusing (I did chuckle about the "true" meaning of D at the end :heh:).
Akamatsu definitely delivered something LH (and not really a mere attempt to make a half ass omake) and it is noteworthy to see how he could keep the original touch, whereas he definitely polished his drawing skills.
Well, one would notice already the stark difference if you were to compare the first chapter of Negima and the 300th chapter (well it was already a giant leap even around the Kyoto arc), but it is even more noticeable in LH case.

It would definitely be nice to see LH and AGT "fully" updated (AGT was a tad misleading with its modern cover, while the original design was surely outdated :heh:).

Could you give a rundown of what this special entails?

[Klashikari]

In a nutshell, this special 6 pages one shot spans around the time Keitaro and Naru are still trying to get in Todai (so unfortnately, no, nothing close to epilogue/aftermath of the wedding whatsoever). From the looks of Keitaro's grades, it is probably around Volume 5-6, after their first failed attempt together but before Mutsumi shows up.

Random discussion at the Rotenburou of the Hinata inn, and Kitsune tells to Shinobu that back 20 years ago, they used "A" "B" "C" and "D" to describe what a couples do, A being Kiss, B touching and... well you know the rest.
Obviously, Shinobu is all flustered. Later, Keitaro receives a paper about his mock exam: C.
That said, when Shinobu shows up, she bluntly asks if he could get a A with Naru, but mistaking the context, he plainly says he could only get 20 C all this time. Of course, that totally overwhelms Shinobu, thinking they did "that" so much and she runs away.
Shinobu bumps on Naru, calling the latter a pervert (:heh:). Obviously, Naru thinks it is Kei's doing and speaking of the devil, the guy predictably bumps and trips on her leading to:
A: accidental kiss, B: accidental breast groping, leading to... C: Naru punch, D: Death (by Motoko).

A little koma adds some discussions, Shinobu finally realizing what's going, although Naru threw a bombshell: if Kei gets a A, he might get a "A" from her.

[GreatTeacherKen]

I've just read it.

It may not add anything new but it's amusing. Although Akamatsu's art work has changed a bit, it's pretty much classic Love Hina.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Timeline wise I'd place this before Keitaro met Seta and Sara.

Course now we know why we had this little special. Major event that connects Love Hina and Negima.


The sword Hina appears in Tsukuyomi's hands. Oh Tsuruko was Setsuna's first master.

[yezhanquan]

Well, doesn't take any stretch of the imagination to figure out that the sister(s) taught Setsuna at some point, if the stories were linked. The style even has the same name.

Now, if Seta is a mage.....

[ReddyRedWolf]

Now, if Seta is a mage.....

More likely he was some mage's partner. Sara did mention Seta got some magical shovel when he fought an evil organization.... Oh my goodness where have heard that before?:uhoh:

Nah it couldn't be...

[yezhanquan]

More likely he was some mage's partner. Sara did mention Seta got some magical shovel when he fought an evil organization.... Oh my goodness where have heard that before?:uhoh:

Nah it couldn't be...

I do remember Seta mentioning that he had a few run-ins in his days. I guess we can wait and see.

[cyberdemon]

Timeline wise I'd place this before Keitaro met Seta and Sara.

Course now we know why we had this little special. Major event that connects Love Hina and Negima.


The sword Hina appears in Tsukuyomi's hands. Oh Tsuruko was Setsuna's first master.

No, it was most likely after since Naru is basically promising a kiss if he does good. That kind of behavior from her didn't really come until later in the manga.

[OverMaster]

I have to disagree,

I have to disagree as well

I used to read Negima for a while and just couldn't continue anymore. Way too many characters to care about,

Most of them rather well balanced, and most of those who aren't are intended to be that way in any case.

and it eventually transformed into a full-time action manga.

As if that was a bad thing.

Love Hina was way better than Negima.

Ugh, no. Love Hina was a fine little entertainment, but in the end it was just another harem manga. Not even as good as Saber Marionette or El Hazard.

I wish he'd conclude it and start a new manga.

I wish he concludes it after the epic wrapup it deserves.

[cyberdemon]

As if that was a bad thing.


yeah Ken wanted to write an action manga from the beginning. The publishers made him write another harem one in the beginning. Kind of his way of protesting.

[RisArk]

Seo? You mean Ken?

[cyberdemon]

Seo? You mean Ken?

whoops, too much KNiM LOL!

[yezhanquan]

I have to disagree as well


Most of them rather well balanced, and most of those who aren't are intended to be that way in any case.


As if that was a bad thing.


Ugh, no. Love Hina was a fine little entertainment, but in the end it was just another harem manga. Not even as good as Saber Marionette or El Hazard.

I wish he concludes it after the epic wrapup it deserves.

Only objection I have to the whole project is that the Shounen Magazine editors very quickly dropped their objections to Ken's way of continuing the story after they realised that they have something which rivals the 3 Kings of SJ. From the way I see it, it's an SJ action title, but under SM's wing.

[MrTerrorist]

Talk about lucky.

Well, Hopefully The Dreamcast Game Survived (http://kotaku.com/#!5760605/well-hopefully-the-dreamcast-game-survived)

As serious as this explosion is and as dangerous as it could have been, Japanese netizens were quick to point out that in the tenant's room, there is a copy of Dreamcast love simulator Love Hina: Totsuzen no Engeji Happening. But not just a copy of the game, a limited version of the game, which came with a limited edition Love Hina wall clock, a Love Hina towel, a stuffed animal, a shrine tailsman for good luck. The box appears to be in tact, but no word on whether the game made it out okay or if the wall clock was affixed to the wall that was blown clear off.

[GreatTeacherKen]

So does this mean Love Hina the game is as indestructible as Keitaro is? :heh:

On a serious note, thankfully the guy turned out okay. :uhoh: