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Pellissier
2009-02-18, 08:27
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serenade_beta
2009-02-18, 23:10
Oi, Pretzel. The episode hasn't even finished and you've voted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UbGFI5Xc2o
This is the new ED that aired with this episode.
Is there going to be a second season? Because I find it hard to believe there going to fit in all the characters from the new op in the last 4 eps>_<;
Is there going to be a second season? Because I find it hard to believe there going to fit in all the characters from the new op in the last 4 eps>_<;
... You mean we can't fit 3 new characters into the final 4 episodes?
... You mean we can't fit 3 new characters into the final 4 episodes?
That's it? So they're skipping half the characters from the novel:( Do you know what the last arc might be?
vol 6 :D
oh yeah, the new ed is nice~
That's it? So they're skipping half the characters from the novel:( Do you know what the last arc might be?
Uh? If you take the characters we've seen in episodes up until now, there's only around 3 characters in the OP that have yet to appear in the show. That's what I meant.
The new characters in the OP are a long haired teacher, a high school girl with glasses, and a foreign looking mage-lady. All of whom are apparently in the next episode.
Oh wait, there're also those two girls who walk in front of Mikoto in the OP, who appear in the Kagaku no Railgun manga. Dunno if they're going to be squeezed in too.
Are you guys watching the new episodes online or from the actual channel it airs on?
Oh wait, there're also those two girls who walk in front of Mikoto in the OP, who appear in the Kagaku no Railgun manga. Dunno if they're going to be squeezed in too.
No, they'll be never appearing in episodes. They're just in the opening as a cameo.
serenade_beta
2009-02-19, 03:41
SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! KAMI NO OOSENODOORI NI!
Which seriously cracked me up. Who would have thought Death Note would pop up here. :heh:
Putting that aside, this episode concludes the short arc of the great (笑) adventures (笑) of "actually is a good guy" (笑笑) Accelerator (笑)!
And it really was boring, as expected. Putting aside my hatred of that scum, the episode was pretty much bad in every spot except Accelerator's character development. For one thing, this arc's throw-away characters are completely throw-away. Especially the guy. I mean, nothing on him. Just some random guy who gets 6 or some minutes trying to make the plot move! And the woman herself gets the last few minutes of the episode to squeeze in her story, which while originally was dull, became both sudden and dull and just out of place.
For one thing, let's not have some speech while Accelerator is dying beside you guys, okay?
EDIT:
Slipped my mind, but what was with the half-hearted flashbacks for Accelerator, JC Staff? If you are going to show flashbacks, at least have him narrate his thoughts at that time or the audience won't understand everything...
-Heh~, Accelerator-san~, you know how deep your sins are, do you? And you want to start over or whatever? FUZAKE! Like a mass slaughterer like you deserve it! There's a point you can get before you do something unforgivable, you kynow~? Yes, indeed like you said, just pretty words from a teenage mass slaughter. So you're a Kamijou Touma + Murderur, huh? REALLY, REALLY nice. <--sarcasm
Besides, why didn't you die? You really should have been dead from that wound after bleeding for so long... Die! You know, d-i-e. Not dye, but die~ *heart*
-Where is the airbag of that car...?
-Car sure managed to park and open without any sound being made, huh
-Accelerator used his powers unconscious to save the woman, yet his powers were not active to reflect the guy's shoes when he was, just the same, unconcious? Oi, oi, let's quit contridicting... And hurry up and shoot the guy, you lousy coward! Tch, you could have erased a scum of the world before dying...
-And they finally revealed the doctor's identity. Just a really amazing doctor. AKA, the author's little cheat device to cure any wounds she forces her characters to get.
ED... We are already on episode 20 and all of a sudden?... Well, it was a lot better than the previous, so OK, though.
Index still gets an important role in the ED though, which must be sarcasm towards her existence in the actual story.
Preview: !! Ahaha,... Hahahahahaha! This is priceless! They removed the last short story! The story where INDEX finally gets off her butt and takes an important role in the story! Ahahahaha! Iyah~, JC Staff, GUUD JYOB! Eheeheeheehee!! Index can just be In-something from now on. Kekekeke! <--incredibly high tension after playing a certain game (not really laughing out of happiness that Index gets less appearance, just to point out)
...Anyways, next week, some OLD faces reappear.
Now it's time for the beginning of the last arc of this season and yay..
Index and meganekko Kazagiri rules !! he he
Can't wait for the two great confrontations in that arc.
SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! KAMI NO OOSENODOORI NI!
Which seriously cracked me up. Who would have thought Death Note would pop up here. :heh:
Putting that aside, this episode concludes the short arc of the great (笑) adventures (笑) of "actually is a good guy" (笑笑) Accelerator (笑)!
And it really was boring, as expected. Putting aside my hatred of that scum, the episode was pretty much bad in every spot except Accelerator's character development. For one thing, this arc's throw-away characters are completely throw-away. Especially the guy. I mean, nothing on him. Just some random guy who gets 6 or some minutes trying to make the plot move! And the woman herself gets the last few minutes of the episode to squeeze in her story, which while originally was dull, became both sudden and dull and just out of place.
For one thing, let's not have some speech while Accelerator is dying beside you guys, okay?
EDIT:
Slipped my mind, but what was with the half-hearted flashbacks for Accelerator, JC Staff? If you are going to show flashbacks, at least have him narrate his thoughts at that time or the audience won't understand everything...
-Heh~, Accelerator-san~, you know how deep your sins are, do you? And you want to start over or whatever? FUZAKE! Like a mass slaughterer like you deserve it! There's a point you can get before you do something unforgivable, you kynow~? Yes, indeed like you said, just pretty words from a teenage mass slaughter. So you're a Kamijou Touma + Murderur, huh? REALLY, REALLY nice. <--sarcasm
Besides, why didn't you die? You really should have been dead from that wound after bleeding for so long... Die! You know, d-i-e. Not dye, but die~ *heart*
-Where is the airbag of that car...?
-Car sure managed to park and open without any sound being made, huh
-Accelerator used his powers unconscious to save the woman, yet his powers were not active to reflect the guy's shoes when he was, just the same, unconcious? Oi, oi, let's quit contridicting... And hurry up and shoot the guy, you lousy coward! Tch, you could have erased a scum of the world before dying...
-And they finally revealed the doctor's identity. Just a really amazing doctor. AKA, the author's little cheat device to cure any wounds she forces her characters to get.
ED... We are already on episode 20 and all of a sudden?... Well, it was a lot better than the previous, so OK, though.
Index still gets an important role in the ED though, which must be sarcasm towards her existence in the actual story.
Preview: !! Ahaha,... Hahahahahaha! This is priceless! They removed the last short story! The story where INDEX finally gets off her butt and takes an important role in the story! Ahahahaha! Iyah~, JC Staff, GUUD JYOB! Eheeheeheehee!! Index can just be In-something from now on. Kekekeke! <--incredibly high tension after playing a certain game (not really laughing out of happiness that Index gets less appearance, just to point out)
...Anyways, next week, some OLD faces reappear.
Accelerator is not a scum.....he is just......misguided.......like any other mass serial killer. And this is not sarcasm I actually think this.
New ED is boring, just like the old one. As for the episode itself... well it ended the storyline. I wasn't really expecting much from this arc and it didn't surprise me.
Wilfriback
2009-02-19, 10:20
Accelerator have problemas since he was child, but a tank and the special forces???:heh:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9256/ownedaj2.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ownedaj2.jpg)
Owned!
Accelerator have problemas since he was child, but a tank and the special forces???
I know, whats up with that? :heh: (oh well, gonna wait for teh subs)
btw, young version of accelerator reminded of killua from hunterxhunter :heh:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/wertyu07/gar_1.jpg wow, still standing even from a headshot?:heh:
New ED is boring, just like the old one. As for the episode itself... well it ended the storyline. I wasn't really expecting much from this arc and it didn't surprise me.
Yeah:( I didn't like it that much. It's not fair that they only give Index airtime in the op and ed xD and all she does is walk-_-;
And where is Asa=_=! My two favorite characters(Asa and Index) barley got any airtime:( I felt like they only aired Misaka and Touma which got sort of boring since they barley ever showed any other side characters.
gigaloki
2009-02-20, 23:39
New ED is boring, just like the old one. As for the episode itself... well it ended the storyline. I wasn't really expecting much from this arc and it didn't surprise me.
i dont think it really is boring... it is somewhat soothing to me xD :heh:
I don't get why would Yoshikawa wanted to die with Amai that time. If she would die, who would take last order and accelerator to the hospital?
That Frog faced bastard can heal anything and what did he meant when he said "It's because we have someone here thats similar to her". Did he meant Misaka was there?
hope we get to see what happens to them on the next episode. A 10 for me XD
Preview: Moar characters and finally Aisa's back http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/wertyu07/emotawesomepm9.gif
faiz blaster
2009-02-21, 05:15
What the...! The episode hasn't even aired on Japanese TV and it is already on Youtube! How did this happened?!
That Frog faced bastard can heal anything and what did he meant when he said "It's because we have someone here thats similar to her". Did he meant Misaka was there?
Actually I am pretty sure that he meant Accelerator and Touma and how both of them suffered physical wounds that caused brain damage.
Actually I am pretty sure that he meant Accelerator and Touma and how both of them suffered physical wounds that caused brain damage.
nah, I'm pretty sure that they were talking about last order (unless the subs failed me).
serenade_beta
2009-02-21, 06:35
If she would die, who would take last order and accelerator to the hospital?
:heh::heh::heh:
What the...! The episode hasn't even aired on Japanese TV and it is already on Youtube! How did this happened?!
It's already aired on Japanese TV...
faiz blaster
2009-02-21, 09:29
It's already aired on Japanese TV...
:twitch:
Unless I am mistaken, the show airs late night between saturday and sunday in Japan.
:twitch:
Unless I am mistaken, the show airs late night between saturday and sunday in Japan.
No, its earliest airing is on Thursday during the middle of the day on AT-X in Japan.
You used to be correct, but when the show took a break on most networks it didn't on AT-X and thus AT-X started getting the earliest airings of the latest episodes.
SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! KAMI NO OOSENODOORI NI!
Yeah. The second sakujou was first said, i couldn't stop thinking of Mikami. Hearing what we did straight after was an awesome treat. :p
& yeah, how everyone appeared at the hospital was pretty lol, but something i'm sure we're not supposed to think about. :heh:
ReddyRedWolf
2009-02-21, 10:32
Funny that Accelerator also has brain damage.
Maybe he and Touma should start a brain damage support group.
Makes me wonder though if Accelarator underwent also the brain development program like Mikoto.
He seems to be very powerful at a young age. Men in black trying to shoot him then the army.
It would seem to me Academy City could very well be sanctuary where Espers could lead normal lives far from the fear of normals.
It is likely that governments are aware of their existence. Being kept secret. Magicians and the militant arm of the churches are another matter.
We learned from the guy trying to kill Touma that he is considered a threat as he is gathering friends on both science and magic sides.
What is probably frightening for the magic side is that constant association of both sides via Toama will eventually expose them all to normals.
Magicians are keeping their existence under wraps especially the church militant arms.
SaintessHeart
2009-02-21, 13:55
The accelerator can't calculate as fast as he can as before, so his abilities are pretty much rendered useless. He is implanted with a chip so the Misaka Network can use electric waves to help him calculate by rerouting brain signals.
Apparently he isn't no longer number 1 anymore. He might be downgraded to level 4.
Chaos2Frozen
2009-02-22, 03:30
Funny that Accelerator also has brain damage.
Maybe he and Touma should start a brain damage support group.
At least Accelerator didn't also lose his memories, Last Order did though :heh: Wonder hows that going to affect their relationship later on.
Anyway, this episode really bump up Accelerator's 'likeability' for me, he reminds of another character close to me. He doesn't deny what he had did before was horrible, but he still wants to make up for it with the actions now.
At least, that's what it looks like to me, undernearth all that tsundere while trying to save Last Order :heh:
Makes me wonder though if Accelarator underwent also the brain development program like Mikoto.
He seems to be very powerful at a young age. Men in black trying to shoot him then the army.
I think Accelerator was born super powerful, that flashback just showed how invincible he was even as a child.
Kinny Riddle
2009-02-22, 09:06
He may have paid a heavy price for it, but Accelerator has more or less redeemed himself. At least he won't suffer from the usual Villain Decay and be an unconditional ally for the main character all the time, and still remain a cool badass.
What a late time to introduce a second ED, with only what? Five episodes remaining? Still, it's a cheery ED, I'm talking about the animation, that is. I'll reserve comment for the music once I listen to it a few more times.
SwiftStrike
2009-02-22, 12:27
accelerator saved more than one life that night :D
part i didnt get....i thought accelerator was unconscious, howd he reverse the "gentle doctor/teacher's" blood flow?
if 10000 minds can theoretically restore the damage done to accelerator(did they even mention his real name or somethin?) then i wonder what it can do to others..and touma
ReddyRedWolf
2009-02-22, 13:09
accelerator saved more than one life that night :D
part i didnt get....i thought accelerator was unconscious, howd he reverse the "gentle doctor/teacher's" blood flow?
if 10000 minds can theoretically restore the damage done to accelerator(did they even mention his real name or somethin?) then i wonder what it can do to others..and touma
Obviously the bastard woke up. While bleeding. :heh: (Has a grudge over murdered Imoutos)
The scientists originally tricked Mikoto into giving her DNA for the medical purpose of helping those with neurological problems.
kittybear
2009-02-22, 15:32
Damn he just got owned lol. He and touma have the same exact problem, they talk alot, he should have just killed the guy immediately lol.
serenade_beta
2009-02-22, 15:37
Obviously the bastard woke up. While bleeding. :heh: (Has a grudge over murdered Imoutos)
It was stated that Accelerator was reversing the blood flow while unconscious...
Yet he was already shown unable to use his powers while unconscious when the guy stepped on his head.
And ReddyRedWolf, what are you spoiling the Railgun manga in this anime thread for?
So... um.. why is this show called majutsu no index again? Was Index shafted in the novels as well? Not that I like the character anything... As for this arc, it was so so. I feel like the author was confused or something when writing this part. This Accerelator would have never been able to kill 10000+ of the sisters, or so I think. Or maybe its just me hating 'villian turning good' kinda thing...
Maybe he wasn't fully unconscious. Someone had to call for an ambulance.
I think that we are thinking too hard on this. We should just enjoy the episode.
slidingk1
2009-02-22, 20:34
Is it just me or did the series get side tracked very badly and turned into a giant epic fail??
kittybear
2009-02-22, 20:39
Is it just me or did the series get side tracked very badly and turned into a giant epic fail??
You just noticed?:heh:
KaneDragon
2009-02-22, 20:48
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/20/snapshot20090222192123.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20090222192123.jpg) God help us all, he's speaking in code! :heh: ;)
This episode was a bit disappointing. Accelerator pulling new powers out of his ass, for one--skim over some malformed HTML and now you're able to perform diff on a human brain? :heh:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7192/malcode2.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=malcode2.jpg) Accelerator can change the vectors of... the plot? Your W3C asplode.
And that scientist guy. In the end, no motivation, no further explanation about the virus. I was holding out for a reveal of the virus's true purpose up until he pulled the gun, but nope, he just wanted all the Sisters to go beserk for the hell of it, because he's an asshole, and that's what assholes do. :rolleyes:
Bah.
Besides all the plot holes I enjoyed this ep. Accelerator might join the Touma crowd if he retained some of the feelings for Last Order. Hope for epic final battle against the Vatican.
On a side note, I've grow to hate Index. Wtf, this bitc& doesn't do anything the whole show??
This episode was a bit disappointing. Accelerator pulling new powers out of his ass, for one--skim over some malformed HTML and now you're able to perform diff on a human brain? :heh:
I don't think he was pulling powers out of his ass. His power's definition is the one broad enough to mean technically anything, contolling vectors. He was rerouting the neurologic pathways inside her brain be contolling the electric pulses between neurons.
KaneDragon
2009-02-22, 21:06
I don't think he was pulling powers out of his ass. His power's definition is the one broad enough to mean technically anything, contolling vectors. He was rerouting the neurologic pathways inside her brain be contolling the electric pulses between neurons.
He can control vectors. However, that does not mean he can memorize garbled code with a glance and then read Last Order's mind in order to compare the two sets of code. Converting the electrochemical signals in the brain into something he can understand and modify is absurdly out of bounds. Even if he has the power to make the necessary changes, he should no where near have the mental power to know what changes to make and keep everything straight in his head. This is something he admittedly just decided to try doing on the spot.
And neurons communicate between each other chemically, not electrically, to add a whole other level of complexity to the issue.
germanturkey
2009-02-23, 00:19
rather interesting ep. obviously they saved everything, and you know he'll be alright in the end. is it a new ED? its rather nice.
next ep we get two new characters with 5 or so eps left?
serenade_beta
2009-02-23, 00:21
Was Index shafted in the novels as well? Not that I like the character anything...
Yes, she was. Only she gets more pointless scenes (like in the beach episode), and the arc that should have been after this episode focusing on her and some random episodic character gets removed.
:heh:
Maybe he wasn't fully unconscious.
Hah? :heh: Nai, nai, nee~yo
ZeroForever
2009-02-23, 00:45
average eps so i gave it a 6, i knew what was gonna happen from light novel summaries but it still annoyed me as i like accelerator but considering what they do to him after is like ugh.
and yeah they hit accelerator with the nerf bat as a result of this incident he can only use his powers for 15 mins max and is a cripple that needs a cane to walk right (though i guess this nerf is so he can't just auto win through everyone else).
pretty much the general consensus on the books name (aka index) is that it was originally suppose to be a 1 shot but was popular enough that they continued it, afterwords it was to late to really change the name of the books, as such despite being the title character index was relegated as minor character for most novels.
No!~~~
They freakin' put Accelerator out of commission!?
I must say, I'm really sad...
http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/1214945c0aeec58e29cf7e24ae1f08ba1235367682_full.pn g
MrTerrorist
2009-02-23, 05:19
Got a question. In the Eclipse subs, when Yoshikawa was asking Dr Frog-face to save Last Order. He mentions that has someone similar to her at home.
Was he talking about Full-Tuning, No 00,000, The first Misaka clone and prototype of the Sisters?
Good epi, and i'm sad that is out of the show for now xDD
New ED song is good (except this toumaxindex that they put always, is annoying lol)
Well, next time probably there is the final arc of the show, maybe; Next arc which volume of the novels is?
@serenade_beta: not that i'm interested to index (because i don't like her), but can you tell me the short story that they skip, on the novel thread?
DragoZERO
2009-02-23, 08:55
Wow.. what an utterly pointless episode. For a series that started out so strong and kept the pace it really is disappointing me.
The accelerator can't calculate as fast as he can as before, so his abilities are pretty much rendered useless. He is implanted with a chip so the Misaka Network can use electric waves to help him calculate by rerouting brain signals.
Apparently he isn't no longer number 1 anymore. He might be downgraded to level 4.
I see I see. So basically, Accelerator has to depend on the sisters for him to regain his calculating skills and so he can speak normally again.. So, if one of those sisters dies or disappears his uhm calculating ability would also decrease? and the microchip is on that leash thing around his neck right? If that thing gets destroyed he's pretty much useless XD
and I wonder what he'll sound like without the microchip.
serenade_beta
2009-02-23, 10:55
@serenade_beta: not that i'm interested to index (because i don't like her), but can you tell me the short story that they skip, on the novel thread?
To my best ability... To the novel thread-->
ZeroForever
2009-02-23, 13:50
random thought shouldn't accelerator been able to control the vector so that the blood flowed normally in the head injury to reduce the damage/blood loss, like he did to save the doctors life.
And shouldn't the retarded doctor that intentional got shot like a retard ... i don't know ... call the hospital (or at least heaven canceller) before hand instead of having to get saved by accelerator.
i really wanna like this series more but there's way to many 'fail' moments (at least in the anime) that make me wish for character deaths to absolve my irratation with them.
Shiroi Hane
2009-02-23, 17:37
I have a couple of comments:
I want a MID like that.
After lying on his back in a pool of his own blood (I mean, there was enough under his head that it looked like a through-and-through) why was his hair not stained red?
Sorrow-K
2009-02-25, 06:03
Actual character development made this ep worthwhile, IMO. I don't really see the point anymore in holding this show to any standards as far as logic is concerned. The bad guy was a plot device, and Accelerator pulled a power out of his ass. What's new, movie at 11. But I really did appreciate that they managed to make Accelerator come off as quite noble, which is no mean feat knowing what he was like in earlier episodes. That, and I still dig this show's use of music. It's probably the best thing about this show.
Edit:After lying on his back in a pool of his own blood (I mean, there was enough under his head that it looked like a through-and-through) why was his hair not stained red?
Anime.
fict_ticious
2009-02-25, 12:01
Accelerator can change the vectors of... the plot? Your W3C asplode.
I just spat up my coffee.
But yeah, lots o' glaring holes/contradictions in this one, but managed to still be watchable. Again, the dude is struck with Kamijyo's streak of luck, plus now he's sharing his brain with over 9000 other sentients.
KaneDragon
2009-02-25, 12:07
I just spat up my coffee.
But yeah, lots o' glaring holes/contradictions in this one, but managed to still be watchable. Again, the dude is struck with Kamijyo's streak of luck, plus now he's sharing his brain with over 9000 other sentients.
Indeed. Brain damage (and subsequent downgrade of ability) really sucks, but having a hivemind with OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND biri biri clones ought to more than make up for that. :heh:
Last Order ought to still have her memories of Accelerator thanks to that hivemind anyway, right?
fict_ticious
2009-02-25, 12:32
Indeed. Brain damage (and subsequent downgrade of ability) really sucks, but having a hivemind with OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND biri biri clones ought to more than make up for that. :heh:
Last Order ought to still have her memories of Accelerator thanks to that hivemind anyway, right?
Yeah, but wouldn't mivehind mean he can't have any "alone time" with himself? I mean, he might be a rigid dude, but he's still a... dude.
Sucks, downgrade means he can't be a one-man-army anymore. Though him + a couple of the other sisters would still make a lethal combination.
For the latter statement, that's what I figured. Having your brain in a cloud probably enables this kind of redundancy.
why´d he be off the show? Last order still didn´t appear in full clothing besides the OP, so i guess she´ll make in appearance in this season, and when she does, Accelerator will be there to look out for her;o
why´d he be off the show? Last order still didn´t appear in full clothing besides the OP, so i guess she´ll make in appearance in this season, and when she does, Accelerator will be there to look out for her;o
well technically, she did ..
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/Bordix07/last_order16.jpg
though it was some sort of a flashback.
Just watch this episode :
Well , even though they turn Accelerator in the "good side" , the fact that he killed 10000 sisters is still unforgivable . The researchers too , its their fault too !
(2 little things for Amai Ao = 1) he didn't hear the car who was close ... 2) The bullet don't hurt him after ... )
The old doctor was Touma's doctor too , it seems me .
Next ep : Good Touma is back , new characters .(well we already saw them in op and ed )
So how many episodes will be out ? i think there will be a second season (like Shakugan no Shana)
misaka + tsun tsun=win and top that all of Misaka + yuri oppai fondling goodness=nosebleed. I hope that we get some more touma x misaka action as the series progresses.
DragoZERO
2009-02-26, 21:40
misaka + tsun tsun=win and top that all of Misaka + yuri oppai fondling goodness=nosebleed. I hope that we get some more touma x misaka action as the series progresses.
Not much progression left. Only five episodes. lol.
Not much progression left. Only five episodes. lol.
Only four :p
Kiwichan
2009-03-01, 00:52
I'm trying to figure out how important Last Order is to the clones... does all the Misaka clones transmit everything back to her and she is the one that if she dies the clones are cut off, or if they implanted a virus into one of the clones they'll all go beserk anyways? Just a lot of questions coming to mind.
SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! SAKUJOU! KAMI NO OOSENODOORI NI!
Which seriously cracked me up. Who would have thought Death Note would pop up here. :heh:
Putting that aside, this episode concludes the short arc of the great (笑) adventures (笑) of "actually is a good guy" (笑笑) Accelerator (笑)!
And it really was boring, as expected. Putting aside my hatred of that scum, the episode was pretty much bad in every spot except Accelerator's character development. For one thing, this arc's throw-away characters are completely throw-away. Especially the guy. I mean, nothing on him. Just some random guy who gets 6 or some minutes trying to make the plot move! And the woman herself gets the last few minutes of the episode to squeeze in her story, which while originally was dull, became both sudden and dull and just out of place.
For one thing, let's not have some speech while Accelerator is dying beside you guys, okay?
EDIT:
Slipped my mind, but what was with the half-hearted flashbacks for Accelerator, JC Staff? If you are going to show flashbacks, at least have him narrate his thoughts at that time or the audience won't understand everything...
-Heh~, Accelerator-san~, you know how deep your sins are, do you? And you want to start over or whatever? FUZAKE! Like a mass slaughterer like you deserve it! There's a point you can get before you do something unforgivable, you kynow~? Yes, indeed like you said, just pretty words from a teenage mass slaughter. So you're a Kamijou Touma + Murderur, huh? REALLY, REALLY nice. <--sarcasm
Besides, why didn't you die? You really should have been dead from that wound after bleeding for so long... Die! You know, d-i-e. Not dye, but die~ *heart*
-Where is the airbag of that car...?
-Car sure managed to park and open without any sound being made, huh
-Accelerator used his powers unconscious to save the woman, yet his powers were not active to reflect the guy's shoes when he was, just the same, unconcious? Oi, oi, let's quit contridicting... And hurry up and shoot the guy, you lousy coward! Tch, you could have erased a scum of the world before dying...
-And they finally revealed the doctor's identity. Just a really amazing doctor. AKA, the author's little cheat device to cure any wounds she forces her characters to get.
ED... We are already on episode 20 and all of a sudden?... Well, it was a lot better than the previous, so OK, though.
Index still gets an important role in the ED though, which must be sarcasm towards her existence in the actual story.
Preview: !! Ahaha,... Hahahahahaha! This is priceless! They removed the last short story! The story where INDEX finally gets off her butt and takes an important role in the story! Ahahahaha! Iyah~, JC Staff, GUUD JYOB! Eheeheeheehee!! Index can just be In-something from now on. Kekekeke! <--incredibly high tension after playing a certain game (not really laughing out of happiness that Index gets less appearance, just to point out)
...Anyways, next week, some OLD faces reappear.
Well said. Although Accelerator's character development had good potential, previous facts and already established characteristics make his actions and 'new' character about as believable as his kill count, or perhaps even less...
Put simply, Acc.'s initial character and psychological profile should not allow him to think or act in the way that he does in this arc. That is, based on his previous behavior, Accelerator exhibits very uncharacteristic traits and beliefs that are incompatible with his psyche from the previous arc.
The problem is, previous experiences with Accelerator present very strong support that he shares certain aspects of a psychopathic mass murderer with sadism frequently reinforced. This arc tries to humanize and perhaps tries to grab the viewers sympathy by showing his childhood and that he is or was more normal than it seems.
As a child he seemed rather normal, only defending himself from random attackers, not exhibiting aggressive or hostile behaviour (not attacking/killing). This suggests he only gained his sadistic behaviour after.
Last Order claims that his taunts were intended to scare the clones out of fighting, and that they were all issued before battles. However as the flashback so conveniently shows, some of those conversations where made in the middle of fighting. If he wanted out, then what was with the killing?
Some point out that it was because the imouto's started attacking first (which may not be the case for all fights, for example in the warehouse backstory, none of the 8[ninths existince in scene only hinted by blood pool T_T] imoutos on screen had their goggles on-perhaps they were attacked before they could prepare?). But the self-defense argument is rather weak considering how quickly and easily he is able to disarm, wound, and basically send them running for their lives, as seen with 10030 & 10031-actually those probably aren't their numbers, considering 10031 days is >27 years...
As he said so himself, if he really didn't want to participate, why did he continue to kill them, even though they were unarmed(not that it would pose a threat to them if they were), and in such a way? "The lucky ones die quickly", he so happily proclaims. Not only does he continue to kill them, but in a rather painful and personal way(close association to consequences of his actions-infamous Milgram experiment shows that ppl are more easily inclined to hurt others if that other is not nearby/seen). I'm quite certain he was not lying when said he took pleasure in giving them a massacre, he did seem rather overjoyed sticking his fingers in them ;_;
Besides, if he really does feel that way, why couldn't he just withdraw? And not have to bother with the whole act in the first place, killing someone produces alot of psychological trauma normal people cannot easily live with without drastic changes in being. Since he does seem to realize the severity of his participation-albeit poorly-shouldn't he have been motivated sooner? There'd probably be alot more alive and alot less dead. Sure 9969 are alive because of him-technically, but 10031 aren't.
Oh, and I hardly think its redeemed, like many pointed out, you can't wash away murder-especially in his case. Largest number of ppl killed directly by one person was probably the Heindrich Severloh, and even though he wasn't limited by narrow alleyways and a lack of weapons as Acc. is, Severloh only managed at most 1/5 of Acc.'s count-may they rest in peace...
And whats up with his attitude to Last Order? Then again, everything about him in this arc was inconsistent-I won't even go into the problems with him saving Last Order-which he seems to have done more for himself than anyone else-no! stay on topic!-Character development is hard, the ridiculous "truth" of Acc. and lack of administrative and psychological consequence(aside from neurological ones), the odd lack of hatred towards the direct agent of death(as aforementioned)...its too bad really, the MISAKA arc had great potential.
-tiny pupils are tiny
-especially when contrasted to Last Order's moéness
-awesome ahoge is awesome
-topic relevant to possible recent events...maybe...hehehe best military clones ever <3
You seem to forget that he couldn't quit because sisters would came for him anyway and make him fight or die. And it wouldn't be in preplanned places any more so his life would became hell. He couldn't persuade scientists. After it started for him only way to quit is to make sisters quit.
serenade_beta
2009-10-07, 13:30
You seem to forget that he couldn't quit because sisters would came for him anyway and make him fight or die. And it wouldn't be in preplanned places any more so his life would became hell. He couldn't persuade scientists. After it started for him only way to quit is to make sisters quit.
He couldn't persuade the scientists? He agreed in the first place. If he wants to stop cooperating, they can't do anything. He practically lives life with that shield of his, so if he perfectly ignores the sisters, even if they do attack, he can't be bothered.
If he wants to stop cooperating, they can't do anything. He practically lives life with that shield of his, so if he perfectly ignores the sisters, even if they do attack, he can't be bothered.
You know, if they'll attack him 24 hours day he will be in very crappy situation. Not that i like his choice but for self centered jerk (which he is) he is in upper tier.
PS. Actually to think of it disagreement of sisters with experiment is the only thing that could put a lid on it. They are only thing that can't be replaced. Scientists or even Accelerator are replaceable, agreement of hivemind to continue is not, because even if they'll do another one it will evolve the same way. And i think that is exactly what happened, though through actions of Mikoto and Touma. I bet people behind experiment knew who Touma is so his defeat of Accelerator wasn't reason to stop. And Misaka imoutos deciding that while they are hivemind each of them is person too is a good reason.
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-08, 13:34
You know, if they'll attack him 24 hours day he will be in very crappy situation. Not that i like his choice but for self centered jerk (which he is) he is in upper tier.
PS. Actually to think of it disagreement of sisters with experiment is the only thing that could put a lid on it. They are only thing that can't be replaced. Scientists or even Accelerator are replaceable, agreement of hivemind to continue is not, because even if they'll do another one it will evolve the same way. And i think that is exactly what happened, though through actions of Mikoto and Touma. I bet people behind experiment knew who Touma is so his defeat of Accelerator wasn't reason to stop. And Misaka imoutos deciding that while they are hivemind each of them is person too is a good reason.
Frankly I don't think he minds that much at all. With the whole auto-reflect ability, the fight's basically end themselves, nothing really posses a threat to him. And there's already a ton of evidence suggesting he really truly does like killing them.
Even though its totally against his character to want to stop the experiment, there are many other more effective alternatives.
As for the need of the imouto's agreement and them not being replaceable... I recall it being as easy as a push of a button.
There are very few people who know of Touma or his ability-least of all the scientists with no relation to him. Acc's defeat didn't stop, it paused, the whole Amai Aoi business finished it.
Ah, actually, the very reason he decided to go along with the experiment was because he was sick and tired of being attacked all the time. He wanted to be so powerful, the very thought of fighting him would be considered ridiculous.
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-08, 16:18
If that's the case, then...so many other things still don't make sense or work :heh:
"Don't like fighting or being jumped? Well our experiment can fix that for you!"
"What do I have to do?"
"Well...":heh:
It's interesting how every act or motivation seems to undermine his character-or contradict something else he believes or did :eyebrow: I guess it just goes to show how hard it is to make villains with more depth...or try to change their role >.<
Waiiit...didn't he comment on how after being defeated by Touma the amount of ppl trying to attack him actually increased-like from zero(non-expt related fights)? And pre-Touma it was already established that he was the most powerful ie. no one would confront him?
He was attacked, just not everyday. There ARE fame-seeking idiots after all. And given nature of Academy City they are a good portion of population. It just his attitude + "defeated by lv0" upped they number to 11.
Frankly I don't think he minds that much at all. With the whole auto-reflect ability, the fight's basically end themselves, nothing really posses a threat to him. And there's already a ton of evidence suggesting he really truly does like killing them.
You realize that to live in hell you don't necessary need to be damaged?
Even though its totally against his character to want to stop the experiment, there are many other more effective alternatives.
Name them.
As for the need of the imouto's agreement and them not being replaceable... I recall it being as easy as a push of a button.
Don't think that "robot" imoutos would be any good for experiment.
There are very few people who know of Touma or his ability-least of all the scientists with no relation to him. Acc's defeat didn't stop, it paused, the whole Amai Aoi business finished it.
Scientists are not important, project backers in administration are. And those should know.
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-08, 22:55
He was attacked, just not everyday. There ARE fame-seeking idiots after all. And given nature of Academy City they are a good portion of population. It just his attitude + "defeated by lv0" upped they number to 11.
Apart from the attacks he experienced as a child-it doesn't show in the anime. Not sure about the LN's. Can you elaborate on that last part, I don't quite understand something about 11?
You realize that to live in hell you don't necessary need to be damaged?
Like I said, he participates in the fights with such energetic and psychotic enthusiasm, usually sneering and gleefully snickering away as he finds new and creative ways of killing people. He looks like he's having the time of his life when he's fighting, clones, Touma, Mikoto. Besides, if he really didn't like fighting, wouldn't he just leave after his attackers are incapacitated or disabled-like he did with the punks in this arc (not killed b/c not a part of expt? But then again, he tried to kill Touma...)? But instead he decides to mutilate and kill in the most painful way possible, even though they are no longer a threat(not that they were one to begin with) disarmed and usually injured. Would he bother with such brutal acts if he just wanted to be left alone? If he was so disturbed, would he have participated in the experiment, do the deed, and then BEYOND?
Name them.
I have already made several posts about this, but I will save you time and come up with a few new ones. Any of these can be used in conjunction, or separately.
-As I proposed earlier, he could just not retaliate. His ability does all the fighting he needs for him. There will be the odd occasion but hardly anything that he can't handle. When the research team figures out that he's not progressing in the experiment anymore, what can they do? The experiment requires him to kill, his survival and well-being do not.
-He could also do what Mikoto did, and target the facilities or the research staff and the administrators.
-Of course there is the old fashion way of opting out of an experiment. Tell them you wish to withdraw. Since he knew where to find Yoshikawa, the lab and HQ for the experiment for that matter, and from the way he confronted her in this arc, we can expect that they were in fairly good terms with each other. Even if he is unable to verbally convey his 'desire' to withdraw, I have great confidence in his ability to persuade people by more physical means.
-Then there's the media method that has found popularity in our times. The experiment requires secrecy, removal of that secrecy would compromise it, and probably certain higher-ups that did not want to be exposed.
Depending on which variation of a solution he chooses, he can virtually end it virtually conflict free with no loss of life. And since because of variations, openess in the world, and an incomplete understanding of how he became part of the experiment in the first place, or how his early childhood 'rampages' were stopped...there can be a seemingly inexhaustible supply of effect alternate routes. As I usually say, the author's decision to change his moral deposition was not very wise given that he was already such a strong villain.
Don't think that "robot" imoutos would be any good for experiment.
If you are referring to the telepathy business, it's really quite hard to predict what would happen if they wished to create clones hat weren't connect via the network. Seeing as the story does not specifically explain how it works. We only know it can be used to share memories and as a form of communication, somehow Mikoto or other electrokenetics are not a part of it, and that it is not a really a 'hivemind' since later the clones start to become more and more unique and differentiate between each other
So whether or not they can be replaced is really anybodies guess, by those standards anyway. Although, I would bet the Testament machines can solve it.
Scientists are not important, project backers in administration are. And those should know.
Again, apart from a few select individuals who have encountered and fought Touma-only a few actually know of his ability. If anyone knew he had an ability they would not label him a Level 0 and would probably further investigate. But this should be discussed in his character thread.
-As I proposed earlier, he could just not retaliate. His ability does all the fighting he needs for him. There will be the odd occasion but hardly anything that he can't handle. When the research team figures out that he's not progressing in the experiment anymore, what can they do? The experiment requires him to kill, his survival and well-being do not.
-He could also do what Mikoto did, and target the facilities or the research staff and the administrators.
-Of course there is the old fashion way of opting out of an experiment. Tell them you wish to withdraw. Since he knew where to find Yoshikawa, the lab and HQ for the experiment for that matter, and from the way he confronted her in this arc, we can expect that they were in fairly good terms with each other. Even if he is unable to verbally convey his 'desire' to withdraw, I have great confidence in his ability to persuade people by more physical means.
-Then there's the media method that has found popularity in our times. The experiment requires secrecy, removal of that secrecy would compromise it, and probably certain higher-ups that did not want to be exposed.
Either wouldn't work and/or would make his life shit. And given that he is NOT a good guy he is obviously against making his life shit.
MrTerrorist
2009-10-09, 01:05
Can you elaborate on that last part, I don't quite understand something about 11?
I think he meant ever since everyone heard a Lvl 0 (Toma) defeated Lvl 5 Accelerator, some people (dumb people) thought if a Lvl 0 can beat Accelerator, so can they and thus came more people trying to beat him when it use to be a few.
Oh how stupid they were.:D:D
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-09, 01:52
I think he meant ever since everyone heard a Lvl 0 (Toma) defeated Lvl 5 Accelerator, some people (dumb people) thought if a Lvl 0 can beat Accelerator, so can they and thus came more people trying to beat him when it use to be a few.
Oh how stupid they were.:D:D
Ohh I see, thank you:D
@al103
But that was after the experiments, I was referring to whether or not he got jumped before the experiment and after the childhood conflict. The anime doesn't mention or show any of it.
Either wouldn't work and/or would make his life shit. And given that he is NOT a good guy he is obviously against making his life shit.
Could you perhaps give some reasons for how you've come to those conclusions?:eyebrow:
Would his life really be ruined from merely saying "no" to someone?
Would his life really be ruined from merely saying "no" to someone?
If they say "like hell you would" and send sisters attack him - yes. They target is not allied Accelerator, but to prove that lv6 is possible. BTW if he wouldn't use lethal/crippling means of defense they can probably starve him to death just by destroying any food he gets, so again he would need to kill.
Ironically, according to Last Order Accelerator realized this. He was trying to terrify the Sisters into saying no, because he himself did not have the power to stop that experiment.
If they say "like hell you would" and send sisters attack him - yes. They target is not allied Accelerator, but to prove that lv6 is possible. BTW if he wouldn't use lethal/crippling means of defense they can probably starve him to death just by destroying any food he gets, so again he would need to kill.
can accelerator even use his powers while he's asleep?
Anyways, Now I'm under the impression accelerator can't simply quit the experiment, and even if he said, "no" from the start, academy city will one way or another, find a way and make him participate. This is academy city were talking about; they'd do anything to get "results". So as stated above this post, accelerator could only think of scaring the sisters away and since he's a sadist, have some fun along the way :heh:
but wait there's more! A part of him actually wanted to continue the experiment, since it does give him lots of benefits and he can finally attain that isolation he wanted. This part of him apparently is the dominant one, not until Touma came in and brought him back to his senses.
hmm, this is my take on the "accelerator suddenly turning into a good guy" case for now, until someone will change my mind.
He is not fully sane btw. With his childhood and then augmentation of this experiment not surprising at all. It surprising that he didn't get full-Gaara-mode really with all that attacks-with-intent-to-kill when he was small. Attack with TANKS! Heh.
MrTerrorist
2009-10-09, 05:44
can accelerator even use his powers while he's asleep
His powers are always on 24/7.
Siegfridus
2009-10-09, 18:30
His powers are always on 24/7.
...was 24/7
But that was after the experiments, I was referring to whether or not he got jumped before the experiment and after the childhood conflict. The anime doesn't mention or show any of it.
He spent most or all of the time between the battle with the tanks and Project Radio Noise as an experimental subject.
Radio Noise was the first group that kept him around for more than two months. Along the way he got to visit a number of Academy Cities more morally dubious labs. Including the Special Ability Institute which he felt Yomikawa was being excessively charitable towards when she described it as being like hell on earth. Yoshikawa appears to have been the first person in Academy city to treat him as a person rather than a dangerous monster.
can accelerator even use his powers while he's asleep?
Before his 9mm migrane, he could. The auto reflect power was always on.
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-09, 19:26
If they say "like hell you would" and send sisters attack him - yes.
Even if he is unable to verbally convey his 'desire' to withdraw, I have great confidence in his ability to persuade people by more physical means.
BTW if he wouldn't use lethal/crippling means of defense they can probably starve him to death just by destroying any food he gets, so again he would need to kill.
-As I proposed earlier, he could just not retaliate. His ability does all the fighting he needs for him. There will be the odd occasion but hardly anything that he can't handle. When the research team figures out that he's not progressing in the experiment anymore, what can they do? The experiment requires him to kill, his survival and well-being do not.
Crippling is basically what his 'shield' does. As I've mentioned many times, the fights basically end with the sisters first attack-disarm and incapacitate/cripple. Hence, there really isn't a reason to kill them since that can't do anything anymore. In many cases, they just try to get away. In fact, if he truly wanted the fear to work, keeping them alive would be the best. As their individual doubt in the xpt would spread as opposed to being killed off before they share the memories or allow them to individualize quicker and early and spread the doubt/concern.
Your point about cutting off his food supply is comical:heh:. Instead of ranting about how unlikely and silly that is I think I'll just say,
There will be the odd occasion [where he will need to give up this passive approach] but hardly anything that he can't handle..
Ironically, according to Last Order Accelerator realized this. He was trying to terrify the Sisters into saying no, because he himself did not have the power to stop that experiment.
Yup, that 'suspicious' scene xD. I wonder when Last Order figured it out...
I still don't feel comfortable accepting that explanation:heh: and I don't think I ever will something just doesn't feel or seem right:rolleyes: Maybe it's my psych background yelling at me :p
He spent most or all of the time between the battle with the tanks and Project Radio Noise as an experimental subject.
Radio Noise was the first group that kept him around for more than two months. Along the way he got to visit a number of Academy Cities more morally dubious labs. Including the Special Ability Institute which he felt Yomikawa was being excessively charitable towards when she described it as being like hell on earth. Yoshikawa appears to have been the first person in Academy city to treat him as a person rather than a dangerous monster.
Cool I didn't know that. I assume that's discussed in the LN?
So basically, his 'hell' between tanks and clones was being a social outcast and lab rat. Somehow I doubt they would allow anything bad to happen to their precious subject. Physical or psychological. Eh~but I guess that would be thinking too much:heh: Fluff anyone?
Crippling is basically what his 'shield' does. As I've mentioned many times, the fights basically end with the sisters first attack-disarm and incapacitate/cripple.
Incapacitate =/= cripple. Cripple = never could attack again. Which isn't better then killing by much and defective clones would most likely be disposed anyway. Incapacitate and they will return sooner then later. And there is too many of them already.
Your point about cutting off his food supply is comical:heh:. Instead of ranting about how unlikely and silly that is I think I'll just say,
And HOW exactly it's comical?
Cool I didn't know that. I assume that's discussed in the LN?
It's from vol 12 and some parts are already been translated at baka-tsuki, you could take look at it. we get to know a little about Accs past.
And HOW exactly it's comical?
Just imagine sisters gunning down accelerators burger or bombing his fridge, that's pretty funny you know :heh:
serenade_beta
2009-10-09, 21:55
And HOW exactly it's comical?
Because I get to watch him starve.
So basically, his 'hell' between tanks and clones was being a social outcast and lab rat. Somehow I doubt they would allow anything bad to happen to their precious subject. Physical or psychological. Eh~but I guess that would be thinking too much:heh: Fluff anyone?
Yeah it is from the LN's
SAI were rendering orphans into a state "worse than death" in an attempt to achieve someone with more than one ability. Accelerator was about 9 when he was in their dubious care. Yomikawa was with the Anti-skills team that shut that lab down hard some time later.
From what Accelerator thinks the researchers didn't see him as a precious subject because they couldn't control him. There seems to have been a cycle of a lab getting him and passing him on to another less reputable one when they decide he's too monstrous to keep. And these are labs that regularly torture abandoned children to death as part of their experiments.
SoggySoyBean
2009-10-10, 00:23
Incapacitate =/= cripple. Cripple = never could attack again. Which isn't better then killing by much and defective clones would most likely be disposed anyway. Incapacitate and they will return sooner then later.
The term is subjective in time, but if you wish to use it in that context, then so be it. However, that still does not address the issue with survivors being more effective than deaths in instilling fear in them. Recall:
As their individual doubt in the [experiment] would spread as opposed to being killed off before they share the memories or allow them to individualize quicker and [earlier] and spread the doubt/concern.
In other words, they'd generally be more scared if they lived to tell about it. (Or think)
As for the return of the injured...we simply do not know enough about the experiment to make a valid specific prediction. I believe #10032 holds the title of being the only imouto to face Acc and lived to tell about it. If however they were forced to fight again, then they would be much more susceptible to a mental breakdown-yet another reason to keep them alive.
And there is too many of them already.
We are all entitled to our opinions, but that's not much of a point.
It's from vol 12 and some parts are already been translated at baka-tsuki, you could take look at it. we get to know a little about Accs past.
Oh yea, I forgot the finally started that up again, I'll have to take a look after I get some more modding done first xD
Just imagine sisters gunning down accelerators burger or bombing his fridge, that's pretty funny you know :heh:
Because I get to watch him starve.
wahahaha!:eyespin::bow:I actually do have-but:heh: These made my day :D
Yeah it is from the LN's
SAI were rendering orphans into a state "worse than death" in an attempt to achieve someone with more than one ability. Accelerator was about 9 when he was in their dubious care. Yomikawa was with the Anti-skills team that shut that lab down hard some time later.
From what Accelerator thinks the researchers didn't see him as a precious subject because they couldn't control him. There seems to have been a cycle of a lab getting him and passing him on to another less reputable one when they decide he's too monstrous to keep. And these are labs that regularly torture abandoned children to death as part of their experiments.
Thanks for the summary ;)
Interesting...not only does this further support the whole 'media exposure' approach-let it be known and the anti-skill would stop it, but also reminds me of the whole too ev-:topicoff:
kitten320
2010-01-29, 13:18
I didn't really like Accelerator at first but this 2 episodes had showed that he also is a human with good traits. If he was that evil he would kill MISAKA the moment he saw her and not bother to take her to his apartment and feed her afterwards.
Even though he was a maniac who was killing everyone, we still can't forget the fact that hew forced to take part in that expariment and most importantly that he had never lost before.
Imagine the feelinge for a person to lose when they never had before. For normal people like us it is a common thing but for them it has a very major impact which made Accelerator to re-think everything. All his believes were changed, it isn't that suprising that he was acting the way he is in this episode. As I said such minor things can have a great impact on so called "Perfect" people.
Accelerator has really picked my interest, hope to see him again in those few episodes.
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