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SHE LIVES!!! GO HINATA GOOOO!!!
Pein is looking pretty roughed up!
Pics :
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Pain's technique isn't effective on Naruto and backfires on Pain.
Hinata barely survives.
Tsunade tells Sakura to evacuate everyone.
Yamato, Anko and Sai are outside the village, searching for Kabuto, when they become aware of Naruto's disaster. Yamato knows Naruto is in 6 tails mode and has lost the necklace. (you can see KN6 breaking the necklace in the first panel of the first pic I posted
Pain and Naruto leave the village. When Deva is close enough from Nagato, he prepares his new jutsu : Chibaku Tensei (Earth's Explosion of the Heavenly Star)
Next week, KN's energy is extinguished by Pain. Next time: "Chibaku Tensei"
Some observations : Anko is back ! and Hinata lives ! And Sai isn't with Danzou after all.
There is no necklace anymore. Either Naruto overcomes Kyuubi and gets back in control or it will be Pain's win.
Deva is pretty much fucked up and lost half of his cloak. I guess his time is up.
AuroraFlash
2009-03-04, 07:45
I guess now is the time that Naruto finally learns how to control Kyuubi. His power will finally overcome Pain's and Pain will eventually die while Naruto will swear to bring the kind of peace Jiraiya believed in as he avenges his former master.
I guess now is the time that Naruto finally learns how to control Kyuubi. His power will finally overcome Pain's and Pain will eventually die while Naruto will swear to bring the kind of peace Jiraiya believed in as he avenges his former master.
You coooould say that...
Or you could say that Nine tails wants something chewy to NOM on, so Pein looks quite delicious...
So he go RAWR in total rampage while Hinata gasps for air :D
The amulet's no use anymore,so while 6-tails is on rampage I guess Hinata could die, Sakura would capture her soul with a medical jutsu and yamato would make a new amulet for Naruto in time to stop him before he kills the universe!
^ Best thing I could come up with, naruto couldn't control his 4 tails so getting to master 6 is not very probable. Backup's here so they might as well help him,no?
KingOfWorlds
2009-03-04, 07:59
I concur... Otherwise I think the Kyuubi is gunna own Pein if he has no special tricks er sumthin
who knows....
Pein still hasnt used the 6th element yet
El_Negro
2009-03-04, 08:04
who knows....
Pein still hasnt used the 6th element yet
Anyone cares 2 take a wild guess what that sixth element is?
Damn missed the first post already!!
I guess now is the time that Naruto finally learns how to control Kyuubi. His power will finally overcome Pain's and Pain will eventually die while Naruto will swear to bring the kind of peace Jiraiya believed in as he avenges his former master.
BS.
Something tells me that after all this destruction and disaster and the fact that Naruto almost lost his closest companions, will prompt him to leave the village and on journeying meets up with Killerbee who then shows him how to commune with his bijuu or some shit like that. We'll see
KingOfWorlds
2009-03-04, 08:11
man that SUCKS...
They gonna use up the whole chapter...
About nothing....
And save the Pain Vs. 6-Tail Naruto that everybody been waiting for until next week
Kyero Fox
2009-03-04, 08:13
HA! I knew Hinata wasn't gonna die, I was right to slap my friend back of his head for even thinking shes dead.
I know exactly whats gonna happen, so I dont knw if I should put it in a Spoiler tag
well... either Itachi's Power he gave Naruto is gonna activate, or Sasuke/8tails shows up. Or I could be totally wrong.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 08:15
Short summary :
Pain's jutsu isn't working on Naruto.
Rather damaging Pain himself.
Hinata is barely alive.
Sakura is told to evacuate everyone.
Outside Yamato, Anko and Sai are searching for ?Kabuto?
Yamato becomes aware of Naruto's situation.
Next week: Pain standing agianst Kyuubi's energi.
"Chibaku Tensei".
There we go :D, There we go :D, there we go :D!!
HA! I knew Hinata wasn't gonna die, I was right to slap my friend back of his head for even thinking shes dead.
Oh yeaaaaaaaaaa all the ppl that wanted her dead, hahahah :heh:
Go Hinata!! :p
El_Negro
2009-03-04, 08:18
There we go :D, There we go :D, there we go :D!!
Dude it stated barely so there's a good chance she go either be dead or hopefully alive
man that SUCKS...
They gonna use up the whole chapter...
About nothing....
And save the Pain Vs. 6-Tail Naruto that everybody been waiting for until next week
If you think this is nothing I suggest you read the bleach 348 spoilers...then you will know, the true meaning of nothing! Gotta share the pain~
P.S: to all those happy guys and gals about Hinata being alive, she's still with one foot in the grave so don't get too excited^^
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 08:26
If you think this is nothing I suggest you read the bleach 348 spoilers...then you will know, the true meaning of nothing! Gotta share the pain~
P.S: to all those happy guys and gals about Hinata being alive, she's still with one foot in the grave so don't get too excited^^
Better 1 foot in the grave (and a chance to heal her). Than the confirmation that she is dead :rolleyes:
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-04, 08:28
Oh thank God Hinata isn't dead. I would have lost all faith in the manga if that had happened.
THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU GOD THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HINATA LIVES!!!!!
(thanks naruto gods:D)
ahhnhhh. mental satisfaction. Now gotta hope she survives 6 tails. It would be sweet if she was the one to calm him down and control his heart with her sexyness. It's also anoying to think that naruto could take out all other pein bodies and six tails cant take out one. If naruto is OVERPOWERED by pein than this will be the stupidest thing ever.
I don't mind if Pein wins, I just think that it would be stupid to make him stronger than even 2/3rds of the 9 tails. Thou I don't see naruto brining this under control himself. Especially when he broke the neklace.
Argh DIE HINATA DIEEEEEE :heh:
Woot... Yamato, Anko and Sai... what a team!...
Here comes chibaku tensei... put your butt in the foxhole, this one it gonna hurts...
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-04, 08:36
Hey, anyone else think it's weird how Naruto skipped a tail? No 5-tails?
One, two, skip a few... oh SHI-! 6-tails! :eyespin:
X_Danny_X
2009-03-04, 08:37
another pic by the same girl with the color finger nail
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4167/638770.jpg
Naruto is going full throttle...
Dude it stated barely so there's a good chance she go either be dead or hopefully alive
She'll die, she'll die, nobody lives forevah!!!... :cool:
She'll die, she'll die, nobody lives forevah!!!... :cool:
well since pain and naruto left the scene, im guessing maybe sakura will go help her
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 08:57
Hey, anyone else think it's weird how Naruto skipped a tail? No 5-tails?
One, two, skip a few... oh SHI-! 6-tails! :eyespin:
Seeing Hinata getting hurt so bad. After she confessed that she loves Naruto , triggered so much anger within Naruto. That he skipped the 5 tail and went 6 tail, he just let it go with pure anger/rage.
So its official, Naruto has no controle over this Kyuubi?
well since pain and naruto left the scene, im guessing maybe sakura will go help her
Go to the ch438 thead...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=78772
X_Danny_X
2009-03-04, 09:00
the necklace that was given to him was broken, so Kyuubi Naruto is uncontrollable now....it seems that KN6 has locomotion unlike KN4, i would post the pic but that would be too much manga material...he is dodging an attack however in the end Pain took his cloke off and is going to do a fobidden jutsu.
i kinda of expected it, i dont see a rampaging KN6 defeating Pain and going to town on everyone else.
OMG!!!... It seems that Tsunade is ordering to Sakura a FULL EVACUATION!!!!...
that's why Goku took his battles to wide open areas... Kishi... YOU FAIL AGAIN!!!!... :heh:
Them are some sexy fingernails :D
Them are some sexy fingernails :D
i bet that she never did dishes... :(
Pain took his cloke off and is going to do a fobidden jutsu.
chibaku tensei... which is like a tactical nuke...
Chibaku Tensei (地爆天星) means "Earth's Explosion of the Heavenly Star" or simply put, "Supernova".
As for Yamato, the number 6 appears in his hand, and he realizes that Naruto has gone into KN6 mode.
X_Danny_X
2009-03-04, 09:25
cant believe Sai, Anko, and Yamato were searching for Kabuto!! lol,
Dude it stated barely so there's a good chance she go either be dead or hopefully alive
Bleh, as if any anime/manga writer ever wrote out a scenerio where they make it look like a character died, then revealed that they were still alive, only to kill them off moments later... ya the fact that she survived the death scene proves that she will live on for a long time
i so did not see this coming [/sarcasm]
As i thought kishi proves that he has no balls...
And that Pain apparently has no idea where a person's vital points are... he can kill tons of people, s-class ninjas, innocent bystanders, every man woman and child and enemy might have had contact with, and frogs... but has no idea how to kill an unconscious girl
*facepalm*
charlamagnum
2009-03-04, 09:50
Spoiler The bones around kyuubi it's throughout the body; (??) Naruto talk with kyuubi, the talk isn't seen, only kyuubi answered: "alright"; . Kyuubi with a punch in floor raises everything; Pain see something stranger; Hinata it's in one of 6 tails of the kyuubi; Pain notes that chakra of kyuubi it's healing hinata in her injury on the breast; . Tsunade and Sakura join with shikamaru and the other; Tsunade cry to know of the death of shizune; . Pain doesn't maked follow the speed of kyuubi, he appers tired; (??) Zetsu appers behind Pain; Pain: "It'll not be easy, I will use that"; Zetsu: "This will let you immobilized for a long time"; Pain: "Doesn't matter, you take kyuubi for the place intended"; . Chapter ends with Pain making seals."
Not mine but it was taken from there. Anyways, if u read *spoiler* that naruto uses HIS tail to heal Hinata, so in a way Naruto IS somewhat in control of the 9-tails. Well thats if its true, that this will happen. Guess we'll just have to wait and c, also we may also see some breast action?? hehe
Spoiler The bones around kyuubi it's throughout the body; (??) Naruto talk with kyuubi, the talk isn't seen, only kyuubi answered: "alright"; . Kyuubi with a punch in floor raises everything; Pain see something stranger; Hinata it's in one of 6 tails of the kyuubi; Pain notes that chakra of kyuubi it's healing hinata in her injury on the breast; . Tsunade and Sakura join with shikamaru and the other; Tsunade cry to know of the death of shizune; . Pain doesn't maked follow the speed of kyuubi, he appers tired; (??) Zetsu appers behind Pain; Pain: "It'll not be easy, I will use that"; Zetsu: "This will let you immobilized for a long time"; Pain: "Doesn't matter, you take kyuubi for the place intended"; . Chapter ends with Pain making seals."
Not mine but it was taken from there. Anyways, if u read *spoiler* that naruto uses HIS tail to heal Hinata, so in a way Naruto IS somewhat in control of the 9-tails. Well thats if its true, that this will happen. Guess we'll just have to wait and c, also we may also see some breast action?? hehe
Whoever confirmed this is wrong.This spoiler is a fake.
It doesn't match Ohana's pics and summary.
And the site has 2 different confirmed spoilers ? what the hell are they smoking ?
Ahahahahaha.... Pain stabbed Hinata's Breast????.... :heh: :heh: :heh:
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 10:13
Ahahahahaha.... Pain stabbed Hinata's Breast????.... :heh: :heh: :heh:
hahaha...the perv...he know where to stab.
El_Negro
2009-03-04, 10:21
Whoever confirmed this is wrong.This spoiler is a fake.
It doesn't match Ohana's pics and summary.
And the site has 2 different confirmed spoilers ? what the hell are they smoking ?
Marijuana, Hemp or a new Drug I heard of that's even better than Horse Tranquilizers, it's called MOJO
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 10:32
Marijuana, Hemp or a new Drug I heard of that's even better than Horse Tranquilizers, it's called MOJO
Yea, its called Jack Error...its a new type of weed with a few side affects. Its out here in The Netherlands :heh:
El_Negro
2009-03-04, 10:33
Yea, its called Jack Error...its a new type of weed with a few side affects. Its out here in The Netherlands :heh:
Damn gotta get me somma that lol :eyespin:
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-04, 10:43
Wow. Anko, Sai and Yamato weren't forgotten about. I think it's interesting that this was the team assigned to search for Kabuto. It kind of makes sense given that they've probably had the most contact with Oro in the past (Anko having been a former student, Sai sent as an agent to Oro's lair and Yamato former experiment + having recently seen Kabuto).
Yamato getting involved could mean that he'll stop Naruto before he starts doing harm to the good guys, but I'm hoping Naruto has a revelation here and actually manages to push back the Kyuubi transformation willingly.
Ahahahahaha.... Pain stabbed Hinata's Breast????.... :heh: :heh: :heh:
Lol, y'know, the term "breast" doesn't always mean boobs, it can simply mean the chest too.
And that Pain apparently has no idea where a person's vital points are... he can kill tons of people, s-class ninjas, innocent bystanders, every man woman and child and enemy might have had contact with, and frogs... but has no idea how to kill an unconscious girl
Or maybe Pein just didn't want to/care about killing her. He definitely doesn't have a problem with murder, but he's still not exactly bloodthirsty like Hidan or Zabuza. He decided not to finish off Kakashi after all.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 10:54
Lol, y'know, the term "breast" doesn't always mean boobs, it can simply mean the chest too.
I dont know about that....But Breast means litterly Borst in Dutch, wich means Boob in english. I'n my oppinion...Breast = Boob :heh:...thats also why they call it..breastfeeding...but ok..i could have it wrong lol.
Lol, y'know, the term "breast" doesn't always mean boobs, it can simply mean the chest too.
Exactly what Pein's lawyer would say...
Exactly what Pein's lawyer would say...
http://fc69.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/271/f/b/Haruhi_Objection_by_ri_chan_glory.jpg
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 11:18
http://fc69.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/271/f/b/Haruhi_Objection_by_ri_chan_glory.jpg
Hahahah :heh:
Naruto must be really bold. Hinata just confesed and he his already to second base. :D
james0246
2009-03-04, 12:22
Or maybe Pein just didn't want to/care about killing her. He definitely doesn't have a problem with murder, but he's still not exactly bloodthirsty like Hidan or Zabuza. He decided not to finish off Kakashi after all.
Pain's mass murder is not bloodthirsty, if for no other reason than he does not enjoy murdering people. Rather, Pain is a merciless killer, taking out anyone and anything that gets in his way. Not killing Hinata makes little sense considering his previous MO. So, it is not that Pain delibrately missed her heart (considerig that he was aiming for her chest), but rather, much the same as Kakashi, she moved just enough, that her lung was pierced instead. Or, at least that is my take on the events in question.
No matter what, though, getting stabbed in the lung is extremely bad and extremely critical. She has maybe 10 minutes to live before she suffocates on her own blood.
^ Yup,remember that everyone, don't go Q_Qing if she ends up dead after the brawl...although Pain can kill anything in a matter of seconds:P
^ Yup,remember that everyone, don't go Q_Qing if she ends up dead after the brawl...although Pain can kill anything in a matter of seconds:P
If she lives, prepare yourself for a new dimension of horror : The ninja love chronicles
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 12:39
^ Yup,remember that everyone, don't go Q_Qing if she ends up dead after the brawl...although Pain can kill anything in a matter of seconds:P
10 minutes in our time, could be like 4 manga chapters or more :p Hinata has allll the time of the world :heh:
^Hahahahah, so true! But I really hope Kishi doesn't take after KT and makes this fight 2-months-long.
Or maybe Pein just didn't want to/care about killing her. He definitely doesn't have a problem with murder, but he's still not exactly bloodthirsty like Hidan or Zabuza. He decided not to finish off Kakashi after all.
He did try to finish off kakashi, hence the nail to the head thing... by the time he realized Kakashi was still alive, God realm had already left the scene, and only a badly damaged barely able to move Cyborg Pain was left; and that thing could not even finish off chouji after the missile attack failed... and only reason he would not go back is because it was too far out of the way and he's got a kyuubi to track down; he'd never leave kohona if he took the time to kill every last one of them
He treats his enemies like you would treat a bug, he doesn't care one lick about their existence, and will squash them thusly... if he says he kills someone then they are dead... he's a guy who would kill every man, woman and child that was even remotely related to foe... as such he would not spare hinata, and would kill her just to make naruto feel pain (which is his goal to do to just about everyone)...
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 12:47
^Hahahahah, so true! But I really hope Kishi doesn't take after KT and makes this fight 2-months-long.
Lol , well...i wouldnt mind a S-rank fight. With allot of attacks we never seen, but than again...we want to see progress. So yea......S-rank attack...but not TO long of a fight :p
Yamato getting involved could mean that he'll stop Naruto before he starts doing harm to the good guys
I don't think Yamato will able to stop Naruto, now that the necklace has been destroyed.
KingOfWorlds
2009-03-04, 13:46
He did try to finish off kakashi, hence the nail to the head thing... by the time he realized Kakashi was still alive, God realm had already left the scene, and only a badly damaged barely able to move Cyborg Pain was left; and that thing could not even finish off chouji after the missile attack failed... and only reason he would not go back is because it was too far out of the way and he's got a kyuubi to track down; he'd never leave kohona if he took the time to kill every last one of them
He treats his enemies like you would treat a bug, he doesn't care one lick about their existence, and will squash them thusly... if he says he kills someone then they are dead... he's a guy who would kill every man, woman and child that was even remotely related to foe... as such he would not spare hinata, and would kill her just to make naruto feel pain (which is his goal to do to just about everyone)...
Pain was never a bloodthirsty person...
Pein only killed those who proved to be a threat against his ambition/goals
Pain was never a bloodthirsty person...
Pein only killed those who proved to be a threat against his ambition/goals
Ah so that would include even the non-ninja relatives of hanzou... or the various non-ninja citizens of kohona they would have been killed in his attack if not for tsunade... or the millions of people that will die at due to the jutsu he creates...
no he's not bloodthirsty... he's just completely ruthless and unmerciful
The story would become so much more interesting now if Hinata survives... I'd love to see Naruto's response, as well as Sakura's pwned face (Sasuke is gay, Naruto is taken and Sai is gay too... Lee is the last man on Earth for her now :heh:).
Please Kishimoto, don't kill Hinata. And if you do, please kill Sasuke too, that would make up for it.
Master Mold
2009-03-04, 14:01
Ah so that would include even the non-ninja relatives of hanzou... or the various non-ninja citizens of kohona they would have been killed in his attack if not for tsunade... or the millions of people that will die at due to the jutsu he creates...
no he's not bloodthirsty... he's just completely ruthless and unmerciful
The heart of blades. Nuff said.
Hmmm...Who was it that predicted Pein's cloak would be coming off soon? Ah yes I believe a cookie goes to James :)
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-04, 14:10
He did try to finish off kakashi, hence the nail to the head thing... by the time he realized Kakashi was still alive, God realm had already left the scene, and only a badly damaged barely able to move Cyborg Pain was left; and that thing could not even finish off chouji after the missile attack failed... and only reason he would not go back is because it was too far out of the way and he's got a kyuubi to track down; he'd never leave kohona if he took the time to kill every last one of them.
He treats his enemies like you would treat a bug, he doesn't care one lick about their existence, and will squash them thusly... if he says he kills someone then they are dead... he's a guy who would kill every man, woman and child that was even remotely related to foe... as such he would not spare hinata, and would kill her just to make naruto feel pain (which is his goal to do to just about everyone)...
What I was saying is that once Kakashi was incapacitated and near death, Pein was content with that. He feels no need to confirm every kill. I think it's like james said, he wasn't purposely trying to spare Hinata but if for some reason his attack wasn't immediately fatal I don't think he'd care. Proving his point to Naruto is the main goal, as long as Naruto suffers by thinking Hinata's dead, it shouldn't make a difference if Hinata's actually lingering a bit.
It's probably just Pein didn't care about killing Hinata in the first place. It's not like he's been that precise in aiming with those blades, he mainly uses them to mess up the opponent's chakra.
Exactly what Pein's lawyer would say...
Lawyer: Now Hinata, show the court on this doll where exactly Mr.Pein stabbed you...
:heh:
Master Mold
2009-03-04, 14:18
What I was saying is that once Kakashi was incapacitated and near death, Pein was content with that. He feels no need to confirm every kill. I think it's like james said, he wasn't purposely trying to spare Hinata but if for some reason his attack wasn't immediately fatal I don't think he'd care. Proving his point to Naruto is the main goal, as long as Naruto suffers by thinking Hinata's dead, it shouldn't make a difference if Hinata's actually lingering a bit.
If thats the case, then its bad writing, for that would contradict the whole "heart of blades" thing Pain uses on every foe he faces.
Cub-Sama
2009-03-04, 14:35
Ah so that would include even the non-ninja relatives of hanzou... or the various non-ninja citizens of kohona they would have been killed in his attack if not for tsunade... or the millions of people that will die at due to the jutsu he creates...
no he's not bloodthirsty... he's just completely ruthless and unmerciful
With the relatives of Hanzou it is actually a smart thing to avoid potential threats of revenge, it's like Jehu from Kings in the Bible he killed all of Ahaz's relatives and friends.
considering the revelations so far from the raws of 438, I have been reminded of something very important that everyone needs to consider:
the japanese see the concepts of romance and love in particular from an entirely different perspective from westerners - who make up the vast majority of those participating in english-language forums like this one. granted, they have assimilated a number of things from western culture with respect to those concepts in the post WW2 era, but their foundation is still uniquely japanese. it behooves those of us who are not intimately familiar with that way of thinking to not color things too much with the western romantic ideology.
it is quite possible that if Hinata survives, it may in fact bring the naruhina relationship to fruition. It depends in large part on both her survival and continued love for naruto despite his burden, and might signal a return of kishi's attention to the development of the rest of the cast for awhile. matter of fact, I think sakura in particular is taking on more and more of a sisterly relationship with naruto (and in retrospect I think that die has been cast since the beginning).
KingOfWorlds
2009-03-04, 15:18
Ah so that would include even the non-ninja relatives of hanzou... or the various non-ninja citizens of kohona they would have been killed in his attack if not for tsunade... or the millions of people that will die at due to the jutsu he creates...
no he's not bloodthirsty... he's just completely ruthless and unmerciful
Like i said... he kills anyone who threatens his goal...
What he did to Konoha is his eyes was justice...
and you can tell if you read his convo wit Tsunade...
Konoha (along with other villages) had the same thing to his village...
The millions that may die from his jutsu is what he believes is necessary to attain PEACE...
People who have power can understand words...
especially when it isn't beneficial to them...
But they understand overwhelming power....
Those who die are only the ones who the village is willingly to sacrifice for power.. war.. and etc.
What he did in the Hanzou situation was smart....
He eliminated all possible threats... Hanzou loyalist...
When a King has fallen... the warriors of that kingdom become servant to their children as the heir to the throne...
Same thing applies with the Hanzou loyalist ... so he killed to prevent it...
simple as that
So stop hatin on Pein's awesome kickassness
Tryna make him look like he aint got a heart or sumthin
^ wtf spam
hinata is alive! im so happy :cries:
Phenomenal
2009-03-04, 15:29
He treats his enemies like you would treat a bug, he doesn't care one lick about their existence, and will squash them thusly... if he says he kills someone then they are dead... he's a guy who would kill every man, woman and child that was even remotely related to foe... as such he would not spare hinata, and would kill her just to make naruto feel pain (which is his goal to do to just about everyone)...
Yep and that is how Pain wants the world to feel.
BTW fellas, it isn't over, not yet Pain is gonna use that forbidden Jutsu and put an end to this stray!!
Yep and that is how Pain wants the world to feel.
BTW fellas, it isn't over, not yet Pain is gonna use that forbidden Jutsu and put an end to this stray!!
And naruto will use the amazing power of plot no jutsu to endure it :heh:
Phenomenal
2009-03-04, 15:40
Let's hope that ain't the case.^^^
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-04, 15:43
Personally, I'm psyched that Hinata is still alive because now there is some very real hope of a bit of NaruHina development! Now that she's confessed, they might actually become a couple at some point. I would be very happy as a Hinata fan for her to finally get Naruto's attention.
In my opinion, since there are so few official pairings in Naruto that actually get attention, it might be interesting. Yeah, I know it's not exactly a relationship manga, but even a little would be nice.
KingOfWorlds
2009-03-04, 15:51
Personally, I'm psyched that Hinata is still alive because now there is some very real hope of a bit of NaruHina development! Now that she's confessed, they might actually become a couple at some point. I would be very happy as a Hinata fan for her to finally get Naruto's attention.
In my opinion, since there are so few official pairings in Naruto that actually get attention, it might be interesting. Yeah, I know it's not exactly a relationship manga, but even a little would be nice.
Yeah me too...
I Think a NaruHina is only right... and fitting...
Being as though everybody else (especially Sakura) treated him like CRAP! before..
Personally, I'm psyched that Hinata is still alive because now there is some very real hope of a bit of NaruHina development!
But romance at shonen action manga are never fully displayed... there is just too many things to solve to just start a love relationship, it's ok as comic relief, but hell, this is a shonen action manga...
I would prefer the real history of Madara after his defeat at VotE than to see a flaming war between shippers because some pointless love history. Because is pointless waste time and ink in something that is not related to manga AT ALL!.
If you want to see love relationships, there is plenty of "romance shonen" out there...
james0246
2009-03-04, 16:04
^or better yet, simply go read a romance shoujo, seinen or josei series (go for the josei or seinen if you want to see cartoon breasts...).
Master Mold
2009-03-04, 16:10
And naruto will use the amazing power of plot no jutsu to endure it :heh:
I don't think so, after reading the 439 chapter preview.
TwinRivers
2009-03-04, 16:19
KingOfWorlds said:
So stop hatin on Pein's awesome kickassness
Tryna make him look like he aint got a heart or sumthin
Hmmmm...the phrase:
"I hate you for what you do, not who you are..." comes to mind.
cheez-it_god
2009-03-04, 16:22
Didn't Hell Pain spare one Konoha-nin's soul when he realized he was honestly oblivious to Naruto's whereabouts?
Mr. Johnny 5
2009-03-04, 16:27
Lol , well...i wouldnt mind a S-rank fight. With allot of attacks we never seen, but than again...we want to see progress. So yea......S-rank attack...but not TO long of a fight :p
S-rank fight? :confused: The battle has been S-rank right from the beginning.
It was right from the start a battle that only S-ranked Akatsuki members or Kages could deal with.
Even the S-ranked missions that Kakashi once in a while gets probably have battles that are definetly below this battle. Though those missions are probably more focussed on spying on enemy ground, scrolls (info), assasination or the capture of someone important.
Ero-Senn1n
2009-03-04, 16:27
But romance at shonen action manga are never fully displayed... there is just too many things to solve to just start a love relationship, it's ok as comic relief, but hell, this is a shonen action manga...
There's much more romance driven plot then in dragon ball. In DB there was no lengthy introduction to the relationship, they just suddenly married and had children. There were hints, but there were no love triangles and evolving relationships. The Naruto-Hinata part is similar to Goku-Chichi, Sakura is like Bulma, good friend to Naruto and smart girl to think instead of Naruto. Sasuke is like Vegita :) If Pain is Freeza then this is the Freeza vs Goku fight where we see SSJ Naruto , that is Sage Naruto or maybe even Kyuubi-Sage-Naruto. Since SSJ Goku was definitely stronger then Freeza it may be that there will be a SuperSageKyuubi Naruto who will be stronger then Deva Pain :)
With the relatives of Hanzou it is actually a smart thing to avoid potential threats of revenge, it's like Jehu from Kings in the Bible he killed all of Ahaz's relatives and friends.
however this includes all non-ninjas and people who couldn't possibly hope to oppose him... by this logic just about everyone in world, if a "potential threat" as they will all eventually want revenge against him... hell right now every single person in kohona wants revenge against him.
What he did to Hanzou was making a point, that those who fight will suffer... because of the role Hanzou played in the world everyone he has every known suffers... if you fight everyone you ever know will suffer... This is what Pain is about, he is all about showing people pain and making them suffer fore he sees that as the path to peace
And this would include Hinata; he "killed" for no other reason than to make naruto suffer... and as i pointed out time and time again in the last thread, there is a big difference between killing someone, and making someone think you killed them; the later of which practically goes against Pain's philosophy
What I was saying is that once Kakashi was incapacitated and near death, Pein was content with that. He feels no need to confirm every kill.
he thought that Kakashi was completely dead cause he saw no way for him to avoid taking a nail to the face... by the time he realized kakashi was still alive he was long gone, and he doesn't exactly have time to clean up every ninja he left behind... had he realized kakashi was still alive before he left he would have finished the job; much like he tried to do with the nail... how he manages to not kill hinata with a single blow is nothing short of plotkai...
There's much more romance driven plot then in dragon ball. In DB there was no lengthy introduction to the relationship, they just suddenly married and had children. There were hints, but there were no love triangles and evolving relationships. The Naruto-Hinata part is similar to Goku-Chichi, Sakura is like Bulma, good friend to Naruto and smart girl to think instead of Naruto. Sasuke is like Vegita :) If Pain is Freeza then this is the Freeza vs Goku fight where we see SSJ Naruto , that is Sage Naruto or maybe even Kyuubi-Sage-Naruto. Since SSJ Goku was definitely stronger then Freeza it may be that there will be a SuperSageKyuubi Naruto who will be stronger then Deva Pain :)
Well, not sure how well the those dragonball pairings match up to the naruto one, but it does seem to put out the idea how ridiculous some of the ships have gotten... Goku and chichi getting together without any actual plot development... Vegita getting together with bulma despite god knows how much... kishi, your doing toriyama proud
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 16:48
-I'll apologize for the upcoming cruelty that I am going to display but I have to get this out of the way. Looking at the spoilers I am catching myself looking at Hinata and thinking "Oh, just die already". As far as I am concerned, if this is a kind of contrived reason to pair off 2 characters I would personally spit at Kishimoto's face. Don't get me wrong, NarutoxHinata is fine by me but if they are going to be together just because she risked her life for him then I'll sooner call this "entrapment" than a reason for a pairing. Should Hinata survive Naruto has no choice but to be with her or if you prefer, he is then "obligated" to be with her. Call me sadistic, vile and vindictive if you must but I'd much rather have Hinata die and exist as a fond memory for Naruto than a living chain that binds him to her. I'm sorry, but if all it takes in the Narutoverse to win the love of your life is to come up and get smacked senseless then Naruto should have "rocked the casbah" with Sasuke right after their fight with Haku and their Orochimaru encounter. And if the yaoi of such a prospect bothers the few of you, then he should have already done it with Sakura after the whole Gaara fiasco. And if this is offending the shippers well I'm sorry but I missed the meeting where life-threatening situation+3 words of affection+magical survival=true love.
james0246
2009-03-04, 16:48
^LOL, I brought up your Sasuke point in the last chapter thread, but I completely forgot about Sakura.
he thought that Kakashi was completely dead cause he saw no way for him to avoid taking a nail to the face... by the time he realized kakashi was still alive he was long gone, and he doesn't exactly have time to clean up every ninja he left behind... had he realized kakashi was still alive before he left he would have finished the job; much like he tried to do with the nail... how he manages to not kill hinata with a single blow is nothing short of plotkai...
I agree with you completely. It seems Hinatra was saved the same way Tsunade was saved from her heart being destroyed by Kabuto in Part I...
Well, not sure how well the those dragonball pairings match up to the naruto one, but it does seem to put out the idea how ridiculous some of the ships have gotten... Goku and chichi getting together without any actual plot development... Vegita getting together with bulma despite god knows how much... kishi, your doing toriyama proud
Here's hoping that Kishimoto remembers that Goku only went Super when he saw Krillan (or whatever the bald dude's name was) die. So, Naruto going KT6 must mean that Hinata is dead or going to die :).
Xellos-_^
2009-03-04, 16:58
he thought that Kakashi was completely dead cause he saw no way for him to avoid taking a nail to the face... by the time he realized kakashi was still alive he was long gone, and he doesn't exactly have time to clean up every ninja he left behind... had he realized kakashi was still alive before he left he would have finished the job; much like he tried to do with the nail... how he manages to not kill hinata with a single blow is nothing short of plotkai...
if Pain was going for the heart it is not that rare for some people to be born with their heart be a few inches off form where it usually is.
So Pain could just miss Hinata's heart by inches because it is actually a inch or 2 more to the right or left.
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 17:02
if Pain was going for the heart it is not that rare for some people to be born with their heart be a few inches off form where it usually is.
So Pain could just miss Hinata's heart by inches because it is actually a inch or 2 more to the right or left.
-Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that also an example of plot-no-jutsu protection? That explaination reminds me of how Revolver Ocelot forgot Lady Fortune's heart in MGS2 was located on her right instead of her left. Yet, he confirmed that he knew about it but "conveniently" forgot it when he shot her.
Xellos-_^
2009-03-04, 17:14
-Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that also an example of plot-no-jutsu protection? That explaination reminds me of how Revolver Ocelot forgot Lady Fortune's heart in MGS2 was located on her right instead of her left. Yet, he confirmed that he knew about it but "conveniently" forgot it when he shot her.
it is only a plot hole if Pain knew about it. otherwise it is being real, as real as giant talking frogs :)
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 17:16
S-rank fight? :confused: The battle has been S-rank right from the beginning.
It was right from the start a battle that only S-ranked Akatsuki members or Kages could deal with.
Even the S-ranked missions that Kakashi once in a while gets probably have battles that are definetly below this battle. Though those missions are probably more focussed on spying on enemy ground, scrolls (info), assasination or the capture of someone important.
You know what im talking about :uhoh: , These attacks are even beyond S-rank. But how to name them? :eyespin:
"Battle beyond imagination , there :eyebrow:"
I don't think so, after reading the 439 chapter preview.
yeah yeah... the point is that ch439 will not be the last... ;)
Naruto can lose countless battles, but he will win the war...
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 17:23
yeah yeah... the point is that ch439 will not be the last... ;)
Naruto can lose countless battles, but he will win the war...
Cheers on that :p
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-04, 17:23
But romance at shonen action manga are never fully displayed... there is just too many things to solve to just start a love relationship, it's ok as comic relief, but hell, this is a shonen action manga...
I would prefer the real history of Madara after his defeat at VotE than to see a flaming war between shippers because some pointless love history. Because is pointless waste time and ink in something that is not related to manga AT ALL!.
If you want to see love relationships, there is plenty of "romance shonen" out there...
Way to not read my second paragraph there... I clearly said that i know that's its not a relationship manga. But Kishi, as a story writer, should still be capable of giving us at least a few NaruHina moments. If he can't.... then he's not a very good story writer.
If he can't.... then he's not a very good story writer.
He is not... we already know that for long time ago... he has his moments, but that's all... :heh:
the necklace that was given to him was broken, so Kyuubi Naruto is uncontrollable now....
I think the key to control the Kyuubi is the last sage KB. Bringing in the sage Chakra could help naruto to get control. It's very unlikely that someone can summon the last KB with Naruto and Pain fighting there, but if one of the Toads returns and wakes up the last KB....
broken?... Naruto just took it off.
Hinata wasn't saved by poltkai or plot-no-jutsu.
She was saved by...The Power Of Love! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePowerOfLove)
nah... it's reserved for the main heroine (Sasuke).
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 18:37
it is only a plot hole if Pain knew about it. otherwise it is being real, as real as giant talking frogs :)
-But don't you find it strange? Hinata is barely alive yet Pain lets her be. Why is he not finishing the job? Why is he taking chances? Sure, he has a crazed 6-tailed monstrosity baring it's teeth at him but surely it doesn't take more than a second to puncture another hole in Hinata's body. For a guy who seems to understand the whole "cycle of hatred and revenge" wouldn't him skipping Hinata's murder go against that?
-On a side note: why is it that every villain imaginable has to stab a person in a area where they might survive? Why not aim at the throat or the head? Its certainly a whole lot quicker.
Villians are that dumb... no wonder why they always lose :heh:
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-04, 19:42
Villians are that dumb... no wonder why they always lose :heh:
hahahah :p
Ero-Senn1n
2009-03-04, 19:43
Here's hoping that Kishimoto remembers that Goku only went Super when he saw Krillan (or whatever the bald dude's name was) die. So, Naruto going KT6 must mean that Hinata is dead or going to die :).
You mean when Krillen was dead for a short period of time before being resurrected :) In DBZ you don't really die, you just leave the show for a shorter or longer period of time. I would say that DBZ death is equal to being really messed up, and now both Kakashi and Hinata are really messed up, but they'll be back sooner or later.
About the fight: i really like this fight so far, my only problem is that Kishimoto does not want to give Naruto any new type of jutsu, what he has is kagebunshin, rasengan and kyuubi-mode. All that he gets is powerups for all 3 of his abilities, but no new ability. For example Naruto is a wind type, but the only wind jutsu that we see is the rasengshuriken. Even the summoning of the sage-kagebunshins was done by a frog, so in this big fight Naruto never summoned. By restricting the number of jutsu Kishimoto has to make creative combinations, but he can't come up with cool combos every time. The best example was the fight against Kakuzu: Kishimoto simply reused his old kagebunshin trick which he already used in the Zabuza-Haku story or in the chuunin exam fight against Neji.
Nobodyman9
2009-03-04, 19:59
WOOT! HINATA IS ALIVE! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!
Ho ho ho
It's magic, you know
Never believe it's not so
Okay, crazy fanboy mode: off
Actually, as much as I hate to be a pessimist, I don't think Hinata is entirely out of the woods yet. She could still be mortally wounded and succumb to her injuries, but lets hope not. But at least she's not confirmed dead.
Anyway, aside from Hinata, I like that we'll get to see Yamato, Sai, and especially Anko. Looks to be another good chapter.
one of the things i miss the most is that feeling of seeing anko, the other jounin, etc...
to me Naruto's main character ain't naruto but Konoha itself, as Sandaime said to Orochimaru. Before Pain's arrival, i was thinking in a open war with the whole Konoha's Ninjas facing an army.
It's good to see that Shikamaru and his father are taking responsability for Nagato's search, a little late and off-screen but is what i was missing, Konoha's will of fire... and not only Naruto.
When a manga is centered in one character for too much time, is always fail.
Pfft, COURSE HINATA IS ALIVE!!!
Pein was just giving an acupuncture gone wrong. He failed, and I bet Neji did a worse number on her durring the Chunnin Exams...
Pfft, HINATA IS A TROOPER!
And I bet everyone is more excited about the fact shes alive then the fact Naruto 6 is fighting Pein :P
i dont know for certain but someone mentioned that naruto healed hinata with kyuubi hax, is this really confirmed?
Lunarskylar
2009-03-04, 20:33
hinata prob released chakra from her boobs and that made the rob miss its mark
or hinata's boobs are fake, pure chakra flavored silicon, so teh rod couldn't even penetrate that deeply
so many boob related possibilities
black rods. penetration..
i can see so many yahiko pain x hinata doujinshi's coming out lol
BlackShinobi07
2009-03-04, 20:36
Will Naruto even remember Hinato pouring her heart out after such an extreme transformation? If he forgets I doubt she'll do it agian. What do you guys think?
Will Naruto even remember Hinato pouring her heart out after such an extreme transformation? If he forgets I doubt she'll do it agian. What do you guys think?
that would kind of make kishi a friggin troll
But romance at shonen action manga are never fully displayed... there is just too many things to solve to just start a love relationship, it's ok as comic relief, but hell, this is a shonen action manga...
I would prefer the real history of Madara after his defeat at VotE than to see a flaming war between shippers because some pointless love history. Because is pointless waste time and ink in something that is not related to manga AT ALL!.
If you want to see love relationships, there is plenty of "romance shonen" out there...
It's not like it would ruin the pace of the manga if he just gives NaruHina 3 or 4 pages, that's all we are asking. It's nothing he hasn't done before anyway, we've seen enough of Sakura dry humping Sasuke, Karin sniffing Sasuke's dirty clothes, Hinata trying to get closer to Naruto, etc... I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of it all of a sudden...
Hinata has been trying so hard to get his attention and afection since the beginning of the manga. I think Kishi just wanted to get them together :P
I mean, yeah they might get together and whatnot, but most likely he wont go into detail of their relationship. Just clips of the two together and maybe a Byakugan devil child down the road? :3
I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of it all of a sudden...
Don't get me wrong... im not making big deal, but i can forget that we already have a lot of loose ends, so, with the already slow pace of mangas, such thing like romance will be slowing even more the pace. But if Kishi can do something without taking time from the real plot, i have no problem at all (in fact it will be fun look the shipping war). But Kishi isn't that talented though... >_<
I can see clearly Kishi pulling amnesia on Naruto after this and well, Hinata just saying DAMMIT YOU KISHI!!!!!... :heh:
Haha I see that happening. It no longer canon if he can't remember!!!
They need to kill of Hinata....I mean...Sakura is the one that should be with Naruto...cause y'know...Sasuke don't really care for her lollll
They need to kill of Hinata....I mean...Sakura is the one that should be with Naruto...cause y'know...Sasuke don't really care for her lollllhinata is the only one to respect naruto from day one, sakura didnt care for sometime
sakura will have to have chouji or something
They need to kill of Hinata....I mean...Sakura is the one that should be with Naruto...cause y'know...Sasuke don't really care for her lollll
BLASPHEMY!
What are those devil words that roll off thy tongue?
Hinata WILL live :D
Kyero Fox
2009-03-04, 21:07
They need to kill of Hinata....I mean...Sakura is the one that should be with Naruto...cause y'know...Sasuke don't really care for her lollll
and Sakura needs to be killed off too, cuz we all know her tardedness is gonna screw up Naruto when Narto and Sasuke are fighting.
Hinata >>>>>>>>> Sakura, so stop bein jealous and wishing for peoples deaths.
you and everyone else... Naruto cares about Hinata thats why he begged the Kyruubi to heal her. Naruto prob said to the fox "Please save her, and you can take over, just make sure Hinata is alive and Pain is dead.
james0246
2009-03-04, 21:23
i dont know for certain but someone mentioned that naruto healed hinata with kyuubi hax, is this really confirmed?
That has not been confirmed, and probably will not be confirmed, considering that even a scratch from the Kyuubi's claws/chakra could have resulted in Sakura dying, so Hinata being healed by the Kyuubi makes no sense.
The Shipper war begins...
*Raises "Go Hinata" flag* :D
Kyero Fox
2009-03-04, 21:46
That has not been confirmed, and probably will not be confirmed, considering that even a scratch from the Kyuubi's claws/chakra could have resulted in Sakura dying, so Hinata being healed by the Kyuubi makes no sense.
easly, Naruto ordered or Beg the Kyruubi to heal her, theres a really good reason for this of course.
and Sakura needs to be killed off too, cuz we all know her tardedness is gonna screw up Naruto when Narto and Sasuke are fighting.
Hinata >>>>>>>>> Sakura, so stop bein jealous and wishing for peoples deaths.
you and everyone else... Naruto cares about Hinata thats why he begged the Kyruubi to heal her. Naruto prob said to the fox "Please save her, and you can take over, just make sure Hinata is alive and Pain is dead.
Hey... you're no fun... buuuuhhhh :p
If Kishi kills Hinata she could be like Obi wan kenobi and appear in Naruto's dreams... like a ninja-fairy and such... :heh:
Sakura will live, she is plot protected, the same that the new generation.
To the plot, Sakura has a lot more importance than Hinata, that's a fact, Sakura is the disciple of Tsunade and with Shizune dead, she is her number 2... Sakura doesn't need a love for a protagonist to shine, she has some plot and she has some character development, Hinata it's the same Hinata from before.
Naruto cares for everybody... i bet that he would do the same even for Ten-Ten.
I'm not confusing this in a crappy shipping war here, im not into NaruHina, NaruSaku, NaruSasu, NaruRamengirl or NaruWhatever... but, it's very clear who has some development and some "weight" into the history and who doesn't.
At the moment that Hinata was being owned by Pain, Sakura was attending wounded and previously she just pwned a Pain's summons by herself saving a little child... and Hinata?... ah... she was writting her marriage name "Uzumaki Hinata" :heh:
And now... Hinata is barely living and Sakura is organizing an evacuation...
so please... get real and leave the shipping for the right thread, the lead female (for good or bad) here is Sakura and not Hinata.
(even Orihime in Bleach has some importance to the plot besides yelling Kurosaki-kun~!!!)
Kyero Fox
2009-03-04, 21:55
I wasn't trying to be fun, you kept bashing Hinata to kill her. Why i Don't know, I'd say is because Hinata>Sakura atm
Bashing???... no, i gave my reasons... one thing i like from Kishi is his willing to kill characters, i have no trouble in seeing die anyone... Sakura, Hinata, Tsunade, Shikamaru, bring it, for plot's sake it's ok with me.
I'm not bashing her, i'm looking for some better plot, death always bring some grow to the main character.
And not.... Hinata is just a minor character, irrelevant to plot, Sakura is a lead role... that's a fact. Just tell us Hinata's actions until now... leaving shipping aside please.
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 22:07
I wasn't trying to be fun, you kept bashing Hinata to kill her. Why i Don't know, I'd say is because Hinata>Sakura atm
-Funny how you complain when one person bashes your favorite character yet you raise no eyebrow when you do the same, without a good reason explaining why. Tsk, tsk, tsk :heh:.
so please... get real and leave the shipping for the right thread, the lead female (for good or bad) here is Sakura and not Hinata.
There is no turning back with the shipping. Kishimoto went there. Never in a 1,000 years did I expect Hinata to make a love confession right now and have it come at a major time in the manga. During an epic shonen fight no less. It's Kishi himself who is introducing these crazy thoughts of romance. No longer are they just the delusions of fangirls like me. Kishi is now one of us!
james0246
2009-03-04, 22:18
easly, Naruto ordered or Beg the Kyruubi to heal her, theres a really good reason for this of course.
Um, no. It was not the Kyuubi that hurt and almost killed Sakura; it was the Kyuubi's basic raw chakra. Yamato specifically stated that the Kyuubi's chakra was lethal unless you build immunity to the chakra by being a Jinchuuriki. So, if a little bit of the Kyuubi's chakra can kill, then how does healing Hinata's with the Kyuubi's chakra make any sense? It's not like the Kyuubi's chakra can all of a sudden stop being the Kyuubi's chakra.
I'm not saying this because I like or dislike any character (though I partially agree with Fran that Hinata dying would be extremely interesting for the actual plot), I am simply clarifying that simply because Naruto might want to save someone that does not make the Kyuubi's chakra any less poisonous.
There is no turning back with the shipping. Kishimoto went there. Never in a 1,000 years did I expect Hinata to make a love confession right now and have it come at a major time in the manga. During an epic shonen fight no less. It's Kishi himself who is introducing these crazy thoughts of romance. No longer are they just the delusions of fangirls like me. Kishi is now one of us!
/Sigh.... you're right...
that's why i hate that DBtard too :heh:
While I'm generally utterly uninterested in those crazed pairing argument, I do wonder something about the subject.
How would you react if Naruto awoke from his tailed state the same way than before : having forgotten all about what happened just prior to the transformation?
I would laugh my skinny ass off... :heh:
The funny part?: Kishi is so capable to do that. At the bridge against Orochimaru, Naruto DID forget everything.
james0246
2009-03-04, 22:29
While I'm generally utterly uninterested in those crazed pairing argument, I do wonder something about the subject.
How would you react if Naruto awoke from his tailed state the same way than before : having forgotten all about what happened just prior to the transformation?
I think that knowing he couldn't save Hinata would be far more interetsing than letting Hinata live only to forget her confession, or letting Hinata live and remembering her confession. I do like the angst and drama though, so I could be biased :).
Kyero Fox
2009-03-04, 22:30
-Funny how you complain when one person bashes your favorite character yet you raise no eyebrow when you do the same, without a good reason explaining why. Tsk, tsk, tsk :heh:.
complaining and Defending isn't the same thing... or is it...
Well anyways I was jokin.
Now about Hinata being "Healed" or so they say, But it seems that Hinata isnt dead... or atleast "Yet" Well either way, I Can't wait to see SSJ6Naruto kick some ass.
EDIT: i have money on that Naruto forgets about Hinata's confession and hinata is like "GOd damn it!"
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 22:31
While I'm generally utterly uninterested in those crazed pairing argument, I do wonder something about the subject.
How would you react if Naruto awoke from his tailed state the same way than before : having forgotten all about what happened just prior to the transformation?
-If the 4-tailed state cause a small dose of amnesia I wonder if the 6-tailed state would cause a much longer span of memory loss? Heck, if that's the case Kishimoto could completely re-do Naruto's character by making him even forget his own name. I'd actually really like that simply because its something different from what we have seen in the manga up to date. Imagine how much closer Naruto could grow to the people he cares about if he spent time with them as a complete stranger.
Naruto forgetting Sasuke???? unacceptable :heh:
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 23:06
Naruto forgetting Sasuke???? unacceptable :heh:
-Hey think about it: he'd forget all about that "Sasuke Kiss" episode and that he was sexually attracted to Haku...On second thought, no forget I said anything. Forgetting Sasuke? Fine. Forgetting Hinata's blurted confession after years of stalking? Also fine. But when if he is to forget the Man-mistress Haku I'd rather him have his crap memory.
james0246
2009-03-04, 23:24
^He could just forget the 'kiss', Haku's sexuality, and Hinata's confession. So, he never kissed Sasuke, he always thought that Haku was a girl, and Hinata has never done anything...
Oh, I thought the lead female was Sasuke... o. O;;
Oh, I thought the lead female was Sasuke... o. O;;
she is the damsel in distress. :heh:
she is the damsel in distress. :heh:
Oh okay then :D
[Back on subject]
If Naruto forgot all about Hinata's confession I would be a little disappointed yet I would understand. This is an Action Shounen after all, and "MOST" romance is supposed to be elsewhere, but then again, little can be accepted...
Even though I am 100% on Hinata right now and her survival, I can't help but wonder what ace Nagato has up his scrawny ass right now. For someone who can talk big like that and still look awesome has to ahve something!
The ultimate skill that even Zetsu is trying to stop...
About Hinata: that's why i didn't like it from the start, if she lives and Naruto forgives everything, is fail... if he doesn't forgive it's fail too... because Kishi messed up with Naruto's crush on Sakura... Naruto's already an idiot and now Kishi is messing with his head again, who is not capable to process that problem :heh:
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-04, 23:49
Even though I am 100% on Hinata right now and her survival, I can't help but wonder what ace Nagato has up his scrawny ass right now. For someone who can talk big like that and still look awesome has to ahve something!
-You had better pray then that the next Uber-Haxor Jutsu Pain pulls out is not another nuke. Sure, Hinata is alive for now but remember; her wound is deep and if she is in this state while another nuke goes off then her chances at survival dwindle.
Hmm, I haven't been paying attention to Zatsu, so I wonder if he's just gunna end up eating everyone :P
But the Hinata thing IMO was kinda destined to happen, I was just waiting for it. I re-read volume 6 from the Chinnin exams where Hinata and Neji fought. The two had a connection there and even I though it was weird when Naruto touched Hinatas blood and held it to Neji swearing his defeat.
That proved to me something was gunna happen with the two down the road. Also Hinata should be fine since this is nothing compared to when Neji beat the living daylights out of her insides.
I'm also curious to know what Sasuke is going to think. She wanted to destroy Konoha and now it's boomed up. Also, WHERE THE HELL HAS ANKO BEEN!?
-You had better pray then that the next Uber-Haxor Jutsu Pain pulls out is not another nuke. Sure, Hinata is alive for now but remember; her wound is deep and if she is in this state while another nuke goes off then her chances at survival dwindle.
Yeah that too
I'm surprised to see people actually discussing the prediction I made in the previous thread. But then again, perhaps I'm not too surprised. As I expressed in another topic, Naruto forgetting the confession is the closest thing I can think of to a win-win situation for both himself and the fans (for various reasons).
-You had better pray then that the next Uber-Haxor Jutsu Pain pulls out is not another nuke.
It is another nuke.
Luminion Lancer
2009-03-05, 00:08
It is another nuke.
-You sure? Well then, I hope Hinata has some very good connections to the village of Smitherines because she (or should I what's left of her after that attack) will be spending quite some time there.
-You sure? Well then.
Credits: Suzaku
Chibaku Tensei (地爆天星) - Surface Burst Heavenly Star.
I assume Chibaku means Surface Burst, since the same kanji combination is used in Chinese for the term. Tensei has the same pronunciation as in Shinra Tensei, but replaces the kanji for "subjugation" with the kanji for "star".
A "Surface Burst" or "Ground Burst" is a type of explosion where the blast is at surface level or just above surface level, such that the radius of the fireball causes a crater and sends a shockwave through the ground. In contrast with an "Air Burst", the overall destructive radius of a surface burst is smaller but the destruction at ground zero is more concentrated. Usually used to describe the type of a nuclear explosion (along with air burst, subsurface burst, and high-altitude burst).
And it is a Kinjutsu...so... that's gonna hurt... it's even more powerful and riskful for Nagato than Shinra Tensei.
-You sure? Well then, I hope Hinata has some very good connections to the village of Smitherines because she (or should I what's left of her after that attack) will be spending quite some time there.
They're not there anymore, Nagato had to make Deva Pain gets out of the village because he needed it to be closer to his real body in order to use the jutsu.
Phenomenal
2009-03-05, 00:47
They're not there anymore, Nagato had to make Deva Pain gets out of the village because he needed it to be closer to his real body in order to use the jutsu.
That's bad news.
Nagato better be like professor X in that Chair of his, better jutsu blast everyone by looking at them cause Konoha seems to be coming.
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-05, 00:56
While I'm generally utterly uninterested in those crazed pairing argument, I do wonder something about the subject.
How would you react if Naruto awoke from his tailed state the same way than before : having forgotten all about what happened just prior to the transformation?
I doubt it. No precedent has been set for such an occurence. We know Naruto doesn't remember anything from when he's 3rd tail and beyond, but BEFORE? Well, we haven't seen 6 tails before and we know it can't be good, but I doubt he'll go forgetting. It would render the entire scene pointless, and even Kishi wouldn't do that. I hope.
I'm on another forum looking at their spoiler info and it's getting spread that Hinata is within one of the 6 tails of the Kyuubi
-You had better pray then that the next Uber-Haxor Jutsu Pain pulls out is not another nuke.
It's an attack that hurts only those that the caster recognizes as enemies, really advanced stuff! (no I got no proof, just saying:P)
About the Kyuubi-heals-Hinata: Kyuubi chakra is pure evil, whoever gets in touch with it goes in shock or gets hurt, you can't change it by will,hence that part of the story is fake.
About Naruto forgetting everything: of course he can, it would be great if he DID and after Nagato's final nukes he got separated from everyone and Danzou found him all alone,not knowing where he is!
james0246
2009-03-05, 02:04
I'm on another forum looking at their spoiler info and it's getting spread that Hinata is within one of the 6 tails of the Kyuubi
Yeah, I keep seeing that spoiler as well. It makes no sense, concerning the basic nature of the Kyuubi, but since it keeps popping up, I guess we will have to place some credence behind the spoiler and just hope that it is confirmed as false.
uchihahyuuga
2009-03-05, 02:05
i need help im lost a little bit ive been reading what everyone has been writing and it seems like everyone has agree that KAKSHI is alive? when was this said ive been reading all the mangas and somehow missed that? if someone could direct me that would be nice
i need help im lost a little bit ive been reading what everyone has been writing and it seems like everyone has agree that KAKSHI is alive? when was this said ive been reading all the mangas and somehow missed that? if someone could direct me that would be nice
It's not that he is alive....it's just he's not confirmed dead. So until then....he's alive.
Then the spoiler is probably correct then. Naruto made some agreement with the Kyuubi and is having her healed. Kyubbi can do more than destroy things.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 02:18
It's not that he is alive....it's just he's not confirmed dead. So until then....he's alive.
Then the spoiler is probably correct then. Naruto made some agreement with the Kyuubi and is having her healed. Kyubbi can do more than destroy things.
I thnk this could be true yes. "If" Naruto and the Kyuubi can communicate normal, like the 8tail bijou with killerbee , it would be possible.
This would also be step-1 with Naruto and Kyuubi of respecting each other.
Good thinking there :)
On the other forum someone stated that if that's the case then Naruto prolly promised to remove the necklace Tsunade gave him if he heals Hinata and destroys Pein...
Kyuubi and Naruto might finally work together for once...
uchihahyuuga
2009-03-05, 02:21
if nartuo can heal he's pwn and it means he's in control, with that said he might be able to win since he's not going to the darkside for power, he's making the mean ol fox do nice things because he's the boss. Here's to hoping that's true =)
Nobodyman9
2009-03-05, 02:33
Hmm, very interesting idea. This definitely would be a step up in Naruto's relation with the Kyuubi. Also, it would improve Hinata's chances of survival. Of course we should wait to see if this is confirmed.
uchihahyuuga
2009-03-05, 02:34
yeah just fun food for thought =)
james0246
2009-03-05, 02:45
if nartuo can heal he's pwn and it means he's in control, with that said he might be able to win since he's not going to the darkside for power, he's making the mean ol fox do nice things because he's the boss. Here's to hoping that's true =)
It has never been about making the Kyuubi do anything. The Kyuubi's chakra kills anyone that does not have immunity to the chakra. Naruto healing Hinata with the Kyuubi's chakra makes absolutely no sense. Hell, Naruto doesn't even know how to heal himself; it is all the Kyuubi, so how the Kyuubi can even heal someone that doesn't have immunity is absolutely ludicrous.
And immunity is limited to Naruto and only Naruto, since he's the host and all...unless he kisses Hinata and passes it on :heh:
That Other Ninja
2009-03-05, 02:58
Kyuubi was presented as evil since the beginning but with the possible revelation that Madara controlled Kyuubi once before to invade Konoha and passing it off as a "natural disaster" might imply that Kyuubi is not inherently evil or good.
rpgkiller999
2009-03-05, 02:58
While at first this seems out of the blue, Naruto's wound has always been recover and heal by Kyuubi, so Kyuubi does have that power. If the immunity thing is a problem to accept, then think like this: Kyuubi's healing pass through Naruto, who has immunity and filter the charka, then transfer to Hinata. Problem solved. =P
Yeah....it's not that difficult. Plus if you look at it, the Kyuubi aint a retard. He probably knows whats going on with Naruto and stuff and knows he's going to get his ass raped so agrees to help and be in control and to help heal Hinata.
strategos
2009-03-05, 03:13
This will probably end with Naruto defeating Pain, then he falls unconscious. After that Danzou takes him. Everyone will think Naruto was kidnap by akatsuki and a whole new ark will begin right away.
james0246
2009-03-05, 03:13
While at first this seems out of the blue, Naruto's wound has always been recover and heal by Kyuubi, so Kyuubi does have that power. If the immunity thing is a problem to accept, then think like this: Kyuubi's healing pass through Naruto, who has immunity and filter the charka, then transfer to Hinata. Problem solved. =P
Why should we be forced to think of it differently? Why not just let Sakura heal her instead of overturning one of the rules regarding the Bijuu? This is needlessly complicated when far simplier answers are present.
anyone notice pain doing the same seal when he was little...actually yahiko
AuroraFlash
2009-03-05, 03:35
Can something as sinister and dark as the Kyuubi actually have healing abilities?
Sigh. I rather see Pain use his h4x skills to beat Naruto and take him away than for Danzou to do ANYTHING to Naruto. Seriously.....everything about Danzou just bores me to death. Hope Pain kills him. :D
Master Mold
2009-03-05, 03:57
Sigh. I rather see Pain use his h4x skills to beat Naruto and take him away than for Danzou to do ANYTHING to Naruto. Seriously.....everything about Danzou just bores me to death. Hope Pain kills him. :D
Your speaking my mind.
Irondragon
2009-03-05, 04:33
Since last week I was adjusting my orbital ion canon to fire at kishis house but now I see that Hinata (still) lives!!!! This is awersom but just in case I will point my canon at kishis house for the next chapters...
PS: I think it is not impossible to heal Hinata with K-chakra.
Since last week I was adjusting my orbital ion canon to fire at kishis house but now I see that Hinata (still) lives!!!! This is awersom but just in case I will point my canon at kishis house for the next chapters...
PS: I think it is not impossible to heal Hinata with K-chakra.
Hey you got one of those too? I got mine from Ebay :D
But yes I kinda thought that the Kchakra healing Hinata was a little farfetched as well
Hey whatever Kishi writes goes. Naruto can fly if Kishi makes him fly.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 04:45
Hey whatever Kishi writes goes. Naruto can fly if Kishi makes him fly.
Yes, that is true :)
I personaly like the fact that Hinata is still alive, but she could still die if Kishi wanted to.
And heck, for all the "i want to see Hinata die people". If she manage to survive this somehow and they start to get feelings for one another, who says that she doessnt die in the future? :uhoh:
Well she would eventually die , like everyone else. But what im trying to say is, she still could die somehow in battle later on in the story...in battle..or whatever.
Kishi is the one who is holding the pencile :p
Yes, that is true :)
I personaly like the fact that Hinata is still alive, but she could still die if Kishi wanted to.
And heck, for all the "i want to see Hinata die people". If she manage to survive this somehow and they start to get feelings for one another, who says that she doessnt die in the future? :uhoh:
Well she would eventually die , like everyone else. But what im trying to say is, she still could die somehow in battle later on in the story...in battle..or whatever.
Kishi is the one who is holding the pencile :p
Technically if she did die from one stab....then she fails. At least try to hold on till help arrives.....whenever that would be.
But yeah I don't see what's so bad with Kyuubi being able to heal Hinata. If Naruto can control the power/Kyuubi allows it, why not?
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 05:06
Technically if she did die from one stab....then she fails. At least try to hold on till help arrives.....whenever that would be.
But yeah I don't see what's so bad with Kyuubi being able to heal Hinata. If Naruto can control the power/Kyuubi allows it, why not?
This would be a "huge" step for naruto, if he manage to pull this off :)
uchihahyuuga
2009-03-05, 05:07
yeah the fox healing him has already been forshadowed so I think it's a good application of the foxes powers and it opens Naruto for even more growth. I like the development if this in indeed how the manga goes.
cloak_and_dagger
2009-03-05, 06:21
Beauty and the Beast anyone? :3
BTW, how come Hinata got stabbed 10 feet from Naruto and was 'barely alive' yet when the most powerful form of the Kyubbi transie known exploded with chakra she's ok? -_-'
Josh Uzumaki
2009-03-05, 06:48
i knew he would be saving hinata, all he has to do is run away with her now and my post will be true
Kyero Fox
2009-03-05, 08:01
Technically if she did die from one stab....then she fails. At least try to hold on till help arrives.....whenever that would be.
But yeah I don't see what's so bad with Kyuubi being able to heal Hinata. If Naruto can control the power/Kyuubi allows it, why not?
I seriously doubt naruto is in contol, he prob made a deal with the Kyuubi
We should have a vote...but anyone think this arc will be the end of Pain!?
It's looking so much like it...
it seems... there are capable people looking for him, konoha has solved pretty much of his secret (and pain said that if Jiraiya would know his secret, he was dead), kyuubi is going 6 tail (never seen before), Pain is gonna use Kinjutsu (if Shinra Tensei was riskful, imagine that), Konan already said that he was weaker and weaker... Naruto even has another clone and he has plot on his side (avenging Jiraiya and Konoha and stop this philosophy of Pain).
if Pains manages to leave Konoha, i think that will be in the same condition that Orochimaru pulled back, they did a lot of damage, but they don't achieve any objective.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 08:27
it seems... there are capable people looking for him, konoha has solved pretty much of his secret (and pain said that if Jiraiya would know his secret, he was dead), kyuubi is going 6 tail (never seen before), Pain is gonna use Kinjutsu (if Shinra Tensei was riskful, imagine that), Konan already said that he was weaker and weaker... Naruto even has another clone and he has plot on his side (avenging Jiraiya and Konoha and stop this philosophy of Pain).
if Pains manages to leave Konoha, i think that will be in the same condition that Orochimaru pulled back, they did a lot of damage, but they don't achieve any objective.
Oh heck yea, 5 of his 6 body's were distroyed...and from the looks of the manga, god pain looks pretty beat up aswell. Offcourse, Nagato will get new body's . But it sure will take some time, since he first has to pick out "good" body's with certain capability's. Than he has to do the whole proces of chakra recievers, that will take some time also.
I wonder what that Clone is doing.....i mean..what would be Naruto's next plan. Is transforming into the 6-tail all part of his plan? :p
than he is...a genious...:eyespin:
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-05, 10:16
Man, this thread gained a lot of pages quickly...I feel pretty late.
he thought that Kakashi was completely dead cause he saw no way for him to avoid taking a nail to the face... by the time he realized kakashi was still alive he was long gone, and he doesn't exactly have time to clean up every ninja he left behind... had he realized kakashi was still alive before he left he would have finished the job; much like he tried to do with the nail... how he manages to not kill hinata with a single blow is nothing short of plotkai...
Why? Pein stabbed Jiraiya w/ the rod several times and he was still alive when he was sinking in the lake. If you want to say Hinata's case was plotkai shouldn't you ask why Pein didn't aim for Jiraiya's vital spots and killed him instantly to make sure he was really dead. Pein is not someone who relishes the kill, once his opponent goes limp, it's over as far as he's concerned.
The only person it seems Pein's killed using the rod is Fukasaku who has a very tiny body in the first place. I agree Kishi copped out because Hinata not dying instantly means there's a small chance she will be saved (and in shounen a 1% chance means there's a 99% probability it will happen). But IMO, Kishi didn't show any inconsistency with Pein because his strikes haven't always been instantly fatal in the first place.
Offcourse, Nagato will get new body's . But it sure will take some time, since he first has to pick out "good" body's with certain capability's. Than he has to do the whole proces of chakra recievers, that will take some time also.
I kind of doubt Pein gets new bodies at this point. I mean, if he got new bodies they would be given the same abilities as the old ones and it would just get repetitive. Of course, if Nagato has a another set of abilities he could give to the new batch (he has the potential to use any jutsu afterall) then it could be a different story.
Technically Jiraiya willed himself back to life whereas he had died. Yeah I know.
Hinata surviving is a cop out but an expected one, it's not even a contender for the top of the list.
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-05, 10:54
Hinata surviving is a cop out but an expected one, it's not even a contender for the top of the list.
True. But with the body count Kishi's been racking up in the last couple of arcs, I guess some cop outs are to be expected.
Technically Jiraiya willed himself back to life whereas he had died. Yeah I know.
Hinata surviving is a cop out but an expected one, it's not even a contender for the top of the list.
Jiraiya wasn't dead (dead persons don't flashback) He only gathered how much strength he had left to write the message before finally dying.
Willed himself to life is a figure of speech. He was agonizing, but not dead.
dead people is dead... i guess :heh:
Jiraiya wasn't dead (dead persons don't flashback) He only gathered how much strength he had left to write the message before finally dying.
Willed himself to life is a figure of speech. He was agonizing, but not dead.
No it wasn't, his heart had stopped beating.
It's just the usual power of the mind over matter. Merely the next step of what Kimimaro was doing, living through sheer willpower alone.
True. But with the body count Kishi's been racking up in the last couple of arcs, I guess some cop outs are to be expected.
It wasn't so much the bodycount that her age bracket. Nameless fodders and old people like Jiraiya and Fukasaku are fairplay. Shizune will probably be the one death beween those two type. I very much doubt Kakashi will die at this point.
Death in a character like Kakashi needs the same amount of ingredientes than Jiraiya's or Itachi's death... we don't have it... i think that he isn't dead, in bad shape but not dead.
About the young age, my example could be wrong but Haku perfectly could live and being a Konoha Ninja thanks to Naruto's noble heart. To me is a reminder of Kishimoto saying: "i can kill everybody..." and i like it. The main issue to the young generation is dealing with death, Shikamaru almost lost his friends trying to catch Sasuke, then saw Asuma's dead and face Hidan... Death is an issue for almost everybody at Naruto: Tsunade has lost almost everything (Jiraiya, Dan, Nawaki, Shizune...), Kakashi lost Obito, Sasuke lost the clan and Itachi, etc...
Nice at heart or not Haku was one of the vilains, their ages do not matter.
And almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Nice at heart or not Haku was one of the vilains, their ages do not matter.
And almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Well, Gaara was quite the villian too... remember naruto's power: he can be friends with his enemies. Even Neji was the villian at first... even now Haku's thoughts are one of the main pillars in Naruto's mind: power to protect, not power to hurt.
Xellos-_^
2009-03-05, 13:08
It wasn't so much the bodycount that her age bracket. Nameless fodders and old people like Jiraiya and Fukasaku are fairplay. Shizune will probably be the one death beween those two type. I very much doubt Kakashi will die at this point.
Between Kakashi and Tsundane only 1 is need to live long enough to tell Naruto about his parents.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 13:09
That is also why Naruto would be a great Hokage...The capability to change people, even the baddest.
Between Kakashi and Tsundane only 1 is need to live long enough to tell Naruto about his parents.
why? :confused:
There is no obligation to tell Naruto about his parents.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 13:10
Between Kakashi and Tsundane only 1 is need to live long enough to tell Naruto about his parents.
Let's hope one of them will do it now or later, naruto deserves to know who his parents are.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 13:12
why? :confused:
There is no obligation to tell Naruto about his parents.
There is no obligation, but why keep it a secret? I mean, they dont have to say it now...maybe when he's Hokage or something?
Than one of them stand up to him and says, your just like your father :). Naruto looks confused , yes Naruto...your father was the 4th and your mother was ..and so on.
again... why?
There is no why really, it wouldnt change him. He could be more proud , in a sort of way.
Besides, he deserves to know who his parents are right?
Xellos-_^
2009-03-05, 13:18
why? :confused:
There is no obligation to tell Naruto about his parents.
1. Because every Child has a right to know about his parents and Background
2. Because it would be a case of bad or lazy writing if kishi didn't expand on Naruto's background after throwout that tibit about his parents.
Well, Gaara was quite the villian too... remember naruto's power: he can be friends with his enemies. Even Neji was the villian at first... even now Haku's thoughts are one of the main pillars in Naruto's mind: power to protect, not power to hurt.
That got nothing to do with what we were discussing though, yes they both became good guys and point in case they both survived a situation they shouldn't have.
Just like the Sound 4 and Kimi (who were respectively 14 and 15 years old) Haku stayed an antagoniste to the end and died as a result.
Between Kakashi and Tsundane only 1 is need to live long enough to tell Naruto about his parents.
This information is irrelevant to who live or die. It can be known from others characters anyway.
Xellos-_^
2009-03-05, 13:21
This information is irrelevant to who live or die. It can be known from others characters anyway.
because they are the only left so far that shown any knowledge of Naurto's back ground. Kishi could introduce someone new but at this stage that would just be another case of sloppy writing.
james0246
2009-03-05, 13:23
^He could always introduce Kushina (as a villian), and let Tsunade and Kakashi die :).
Honestly, who cares? There are more pressing concerns currently. Like the benefits of Hinata's (and Sakura's) death :).
There is no obligation, but why keep it a secret? I mean, they dont have to say it now...maybe when he's Hokage or something?
If that's right, then why nobody didn't tell him that when he was a little kid who was hate for the entire town?... not even Sandaime, not even Jiraiya, not even Kakashi... not even Tsunade...
There is no why really, it wouldnt change him. He could be more proud , in a sort of way.
Besides, he deserves to know who his parents are right?
I can't see a reason (plotwise). If he deserves it... again... why nobody tell him that before.
1. Because every Child has a right to know about his parents and Background
2. Because it would be a case of bad or lazy writing if kishi didn't expand on Naruto's background after throwout that tibit about his parents.
1. Probably in the real life, but this is a fictional history, it must be something else, a reason for why people who really loves Naruto (Tsunade) haven't told him about his parents.
2. Exactly... take for instance Sasuke... maybe the decision was taken for his own protection... look what happen with this whole "kyuubi hunt"...
That's my point... something related to plot is hiding Naruto's past.
bobbins53
2009-03-05, 13:48
Hi long time lurker first time poster :)
As it was suggested earlier in this thread by That Other Ninja “might imply that Kyuubi is not inherently evil or good” I have been thinking the same thing for awhile to be honest, I think the Kyuubi is driven by power and only respects power in others, whenever Naruto has spoken to the Kyuubi in the past the foxes biggest complaint was always about how weak Naruto is, quite often said with a lot of distain.
There has been a lot of talk recently about Naruto learning to work with the Kyuubi in the same way as Killer Bee works, I think to get that sort of relationship with the Kyuubi, Naruto has to get powerful enough in his own right to start being accepted and acknowledged by the Kyuubi as not weak, a main theme in this story is regarding acceptance and being acknowledged by others so this would fit into that for me.
Maybe with all the power ups Naruto has gained recently he is starting to earn some respect from the old fox!
If the above proves to be true I guess Naruto isn’t fully there yet seeing he only went 6 tail’s, but if it is then it’s a hell of a step forward in his development!:D
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 13:50
If that's right, then why nobody didn't tell him that when he was a little kid who was hate for the entire town?... not even Sandaime, not even Jiraiya, not even Kakashi... not even Tsunade...
I can't see a reason (plotwise). If he deserves it... again... why nobody tell him that before.
Only Kishi know's.
christinemarie
2009-03-05, 13:54
Madara would tell Naruto.... like what he did with Sasuke since Madara knows everything.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 13:57
Madara would tell Naruto.... like what he did with Sasuke since Madara knows everything.
Lol , i dont know if madara could be trusted. :p
But you cant bet on Madara telling the true, to me, he is lying to Sasuke...
Xellos-_^
2009-03-05, 14:00
But you cant bet on Madara telling the true, to me, he is lying to Sasuke...
actually 90% of it would be true but told form Madara's point of view. Remember the best lie in the world is 9part truth mix with 1 part lie.
actually 90% of it would be true but told form Madara's point of view. Remember the best lie in the world is 9part truth mix with 1 part lie.
that's true :)
Xellos-_^
2009-03-05, 14:12
that's true :)
you can also bet that if Madara decided to tell Naruto the truth about his heritage it would be done with putting Konoha in the worst light.
Phenomenal
2009-03-05, 15:01
Hopefully Pain gets close enough to Nagato so he can blow that stray to hell with his forbidden jutsu.
Oh, yeah, Madara is a fiend.
But you gotta love Tobi...
Phenomenal
2009-03-05, 15:03
I like Tobi, he's goofy....
Master Mold
2009-03-05, 16:44
But you cant bet on Madara telling the true, to me, he is lying to Sasuke...
Hell Madara lies to himself, who ran around calling himself tobi for how long?:rolleyes:
kk2extreme
2009-03-05, 17:30
Beauty and the Beast anyone? :3
and the only thing that could turn naruto to normal is for him to find true love :D
Nobodyman9
2009-03-05, 17:50
and the only thing that could turn naruto to normal is for him to find true love :D
Or a healthy dose of Chibaku Tensei. Whichever comes first.
cloak_and_dagger
2009-03-05, 18:28
Or a healthy dose of Chibaku Tensei. Whichever comes first.
hahahaha ROFL!!!
heh I am back after 4 formats to my computer and a burned up harddisk....
woot
kyuubi mode is cool
nagato is a 1 kunai hit will kill guy afterall...
It was obvious hinata wouşd survive but good for her to say naruto she loved him..go die sakura.
a good move by kishi making nagato to be around and not too far.
who is gonna stoğ kyuubi now? sasuke?
what happened to the cook booby ninjas...they were funny and cool gang
and kabuto?
Kyero Fox
2009-03-05, 19:06
heh I am back after 4 formats to my computer and a burned up harddisk....
woot
kyuubi mode is cool
nagato is a 1 kunai hit will kill guy afterall...
It was obvious hinata wouşd survive but good for her to say naruto she loved him..go die sakura.
a good move by kishi making nagato to be around and not too far.
who is gonna stoğ kyuubi now? sasuke?
what happened to the cook booby ninjas...they were funny and cool gang
and kabuto?
wtf, booby ninjas?
Tyrone Biggums
2009-03-05, 19:24
hahahahahaha
wtf, booby ninjas?
Samui team?... they're heading to Konoha, but it seems than they're like Ryoga from Ranma.
I HIGHLY doubt this Pain arc is the last. For all we know Kishi is going to make some gay arc with Danzou in it. Old dude in power.
Pain was never a bloodthirsty person...
Pein only killed those who proved to be a threat against his ambition/goals
What about Shizune? You know, the person he held hostage for information then killed anyway?
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 20:56
I HIGHLY doubt this Pain arc is the last. For all we know Kishi is going to make some gay arc with Danzou in it. Old dude in power.
Yea..that danzou is 1 sneaky %#&@*($@# :eyespin:
Most likely the last arc will be Naruto trying to overthrow Danzo for Konoha, but to see Sasuke with him dead, and thus begins the last fight with Uzumaki vs Uchiha...
Most likely the last arc will be Naruto trying to overthrow Danzo for Konoha, but to see Sasuke with him dead, and thus begins the last fight with Uzumaki vs Uchiha...
Ierno at this point i don't see a point in Naruto vs Sasuke II.
It's already a given fact Sasuke doesn't want to and will not kill Naruto.
james0246
2009-03-05, 22:07
Okay the raw is out...and there is no way that Hinata could have survived the aborted Kyuubi Lazer Beam/Blast. The entire area where Hinata is was completely destroyed (Pain's cloak was even destroyed). The blast was almost the same size as the one that destroyed Konoha.
And, That being said, finally we can put the stupid rumours that Naruto used the Kyuubi's chakra to heal Hinata to rest. These foolish spoilers could have only been concocted by someone who has a bad memory in regards to how the Kyuubi's chakra works.
Ierno at this point i don't see a point in Naruto vs Sasuke II.
It's already a given fact Sasuke doesn't want to and will not kill Naruto.Sasuke's apparent lack of interest in Naruto was before he learned Konoha had ordered the slaughter of his clan.
Naruto and Sasuke are directly at odds now.
^
Plus there has to be a use for that Itachi/Crow thing
We don't know if Sasuke has enough neurons to believe what Madara told him. But if he lay one finger on Konoha there will be Naruto at first line... To me, the crow thingie is to counter any Uchiha.
DarkHollowIchigo
2009-03-05, 22:28
We don't know if Sasuke has enough neurons to believe what Madara told him. But if he lay one finger on Konoha there will be Naruto at first line... To me, the crow thingie is to counter any Uchiha.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOo *cries like a baby* i wanna see :T_T:
LAME! Okay...
From the looks if it, my dreams are about to be crushed...
I WANT HINATA TO LIIIVE
maybe the reason why information about naruto was now wided known is for a political reason.
ShadowAssasin
2009-03-05, 22:38
And, That being said, finally we can put the stupid rumours that Naruto used the Kyuubi's chakra to heal Hinata to rest. These foolish spoilers could have only been concocted by someone who has a bad memory in regards to how the Kyuubi's chakra works.
....Or some sadly dedicated Hinata zealot. You know, their sad devotion to that character hasn't helped conjure up the subs any faster...:rolleyes: Nor has it given us clairvoyance to find kabuto/oro's new hidden fortr.....
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-05, 22:45
Okay the raw is out...and there is no way that Hinata could have survived the aborted Kyuubi Lazer Beam/Blast. The entire area where Hinata is was completely destroyed (Pain's cloak was even destroyed). The blast was almost the same size as the one that destroyed Konoha.
Nah, Kishi wouldn't have Naruto kill one of his friends (much less have them completely incinerated), even in Kyuubi form. The mini-raw skips some pages so it's hard to tell what's going on but I think Pein was flung far away from Hinata by the Kyuubi attack to the Hokage monument. Naruto followed and then launched the fireball at him. The Kyuubi fire ball only looks to be maybe a third of the size of the attack that destroyed Konoha. I don't think Hinata was in range of it.
Hinata, Hinata, Hinata...
Now the manga who once was known as "Naruto", then "Sasuke", now is known as "Hinata" :heh:
Mmmm maybe...unless that Danzou exiling Naruto thing is true then it'll be different.
Nah, Kishi wouldn't have Naruto kill one of his friends (much less have them completely incinerated), even in Kyuubi form. The mini-raw skips some pages so it's hard to tell what's going on but I think Pein was flung far away from Hinata by the Kyuubi attack to the Hokage monument. Naruto followed and then launched the fireball at him. The Kyuubi fire ball only looks to be maybe a third of the size of the attack that destroyed Konoha. I don't think Hinata was in range of it.
Yeah, Pain and "Naruto" weren't where Hinata lied on the ground at this point.
Pain managed to drop a huge rock on Naruto to interrupt the Kyubi blast so it fell on the ground and exploded before Naruto could ate use it as a projectile.
It was way smaller than a third of Pain's attack though.
X_Danny_X
2009-03-05, 22:58
LAME! Okay...
From the looks if it, my dreams are about to be crushed...
I WANT HINATA TO LIIIVE
the raw is out and Hinata is still alive. Pain and Naruto are fighting in another location now. the guys have all day now since Sakura and Ino are there to heal Hinata..that is what i believe it is going to happen in the upcoming chapters
james0246
2009-03-05, 22:59
Nah, Kishi wouldn't have Naruto kill one of his friends (much less have them completely incinerated), even in Kyuubi form. The mini-raw skips some pages so it's hard to tell what's going on but I think Pein was flung far away from Hinata by the Kyuubi attack to the Hokage monument. Naruto followed and then launched the fireball at him. The Kyuubi fire ball only looks to be maybe a third of the size of the attack that destroyed Konoha. I don't think Hinata was in range of it.
Well I did say "about the same size" :). But, you are right, the blast was only about a third the size of the one that destroyed Konoha. I still say that it was close enough to where Hinata was lying to have killed her, but you are correct, Kishimoto does not have the testicular fortitude to kill Hinata, let alone have the Kyuubi kill her.
That being said, besides a splash page, I count 16 pages released so far (17 if you count the catch-up page detailing what has happened in the arc up to this point).
Ino is looking for Nagato.
Sakura is the only who can treat Hinata :eyespin:
Hinata, Hinata, Hinata...
Now the manga who once was known as "Naruto", then "Sasuke", now is known as "Hinata" :heh:
YOUR DAMN STRAIGHT! lol
But srsly though if the Kyuubi does then Naruto will go all emo after realizing he's the one that killed the ONLY person who liked/loved him the whole time since chlidhood
kenjiharima
2009-03-05, 23:10
Good news for me. :D
Sabaku Kyu
2009-03-05, 23:30
I still say that it was close enough to where Hinata was lying to have killed her, but you are correct, Kishimoto does not have the testicular fortitude to kill Hinata, let alone have the Kyuubi kill her.
Yeah and I think he's even more reluctant to have Naruto actually kill someone (accidental or otherwise). Hell, Naruto has yet to even kill a bad guy. To have him kill the girl who just attempted to rescue him and confessed her love for him would take cojones the size of grapefruits.
I read it:
- naruto broke the necklace.
- sakura ordered the evacuation not Tsunade.
- katsuyu said that konoha is almost destroyed and ask the people to leave.
- anko, sai and yamato are following Kabuto, Sai founds it, but Yamato leaves to konoha.
- pain is running, naruto follows him, but is a TARP!!! (oh noes)
- sakura will use this to get Hinata.
- Here comes Chibaku Tensei >_<
Fipskuul
2009-03-05, 23:33
I guess the last time 4-tailed couldn't move as fast as he could was partly because of the necklace. Right now, even the godly Pain cannot escape the wild animal following it. Now that it is gone, there may not be too much limiting factor for Kyuubi to gain even more ground in his battle against Naruto. Good or bad. At least it would be interesting to see, the final form, or the final form before the final.
And, I have always wanted to see what is going on inside Naruto at this moment, when Kyuubi was having the control. The least we can hope to see is the way Kyuubi thinks right this moment. Against Pain, a little bit of intelligence would be perfect. Actually, the moment that Kyuubi can retain this form while Naruto still has his consciousness will be the time that form could create the maximum damage. If Kyuubi can understand that, we can at least enjoy the battle of the final form a bit more. At the end that may also depend on how Naruto loses consciousness, or whether Kyuubi is the one intentionally causing it, to gain full control of the power itself.
And, Hinata, with her survival, will lose everything she has gained within the last chapter. She will be an immediately forgettable hero of the moment. She just needs a little bit of taste of death, Kishi can bring her sometime in the future, in another manga.
Well chapter is out.
Mmm first of all, if the initial nuke blast didn't hurt Hinata, how did the next one NOT at all hurt her? She's like literally right next to him. AND I predict Naruto is going to get semi-sealed or so next chapter. My favorite kyubbi part was short lived. :[
And dude.....God Realm got so lucky. If he didn't toss that rock he'd be disintegrated by now.
Shining Celebi
2009-03-05, 23:35
Too bad the kyuubi isn't smart enough to nuke Pain as he's running away.
Well I did say "about the same size" :). But, you are right, the blast was only about a third the size of the one that destroyed Konoha. I still say that it was close enough to where Hinata was lying to have killed her, but you are correct, Kishimoto does not have the testicular fortitude to kill Hinata, let alone have the Kyuubi kill her.
That being said, besides a splash page, I count 16 pages released so far (17 if you count the catch-up page detailing what has happened in the arc up to this point).
A third? It's not even a tenth.
The double pages shows that this explosion was far away from where Naruto transformed in tailed state.
There are 17 pages as usual.
Naruto will get caught by the trap?... is that silly?
damn kishi...
Naruto will get caught by the trap?... is that silly?
damn kishi...
It's not really a trap....just a h4x jutsu.
I still don't get what's with the skeletal bones around the body.
It's not really a trap....just a h4x jutsu.
If naruto doesn't follow God Realm, chibaku tensei is useless... Nagato must be close to the target...
I still don't get what's with the skeletal bones around the body.
Just a transformation... what's with the long hair in Goku's SSJ3?.
If naruto doesn't follow God Realm, chibaku tensei is useless... Nagato must be close to the target...
Just a transformation... what's with the long hair in Goku's SSJ3?.
Lol who knows. ALways wondered what happend if Goku went bald or if he cut his hair in SSJ3 form.
Well there's NO way at all Naruto would just let Pain leave.
Alchemist007
2009-03-05, 23:44
What're Yamato and co. doing?!
And I hope Sakura gets to Hinata in time, and the other guys move out to get Nagato and stop standing around.
Omg...
Hinata will be saved, but Pein is gunna pull epic raep on Naruto... I know it
What're Yamato and co. doing?!
And I hope Sakura gets to Hinata in time, and the other guys move out to get Pein and stop standing around.
They're on a mission and is coming back now.
Phenomenal
2009-03-05, 23:53
Pain is close enough now and Nagato confirmed it.....Pain is gonna blow Kyubbi to Hell!!!
Next chapter: To Hell Kyubbi was sent!!!
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