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If this blog (http://fuuing.blog53.fc2.com/blog-entry-19.html) is to be believed, Kyoto Animation will announce details of a joint Tomoyo After/planetarian theatrical release after the last episode of CLANNAD AFTER. Supposedly, Tomoyo After will occupy 60 minutes of the showing time and planetarian will take 30 minutes. I guess we will find out soon if it's for real or not...
blitz1/2
2009-03-03, 08:45
Yea!!! Tomoyo after! (haven't played Planetarian, but I guess it would be good). PLEASE keep Ryoko Tanaka/Isshiki Hikaru as Tomoyo plz.
why tomoya after?? 60 minutes is not even enough sigh... give some of the other heroines a chance but thats just my 2 cents
SaintessHeart
2009-03-03, 09:12
Planetarian is worth making into a movie. The storyline is quite nice after all.
I am not sure about Tomoyo After, I am a Tomoya x Fuko shipper.
theatrical release I'm actually more interested in seeing how Kyoto Animation will handle a movie (OVAs aside).
Hopefully this is confirmed true. It would be interesting.
why (sic)tomoya after?? 60 minutes is not even enough sigh... give some of the other heroines a chance but thats just my 2 cents
Because there is actually a game, and hence and script they can base their work on? Which doesn't really happen for the other heroins.
In any case, let's take this with a big grain of salt. Before we get too excited, this is just a rumour from a (for all we know right now) random Japanese blog.
lol :P tomoyo, my bad. yea ur right, w/e if it happens i'll end up watching it, I just find an ova for that amount of material seems light. I hope their actually focusing on little busters or something big.
Meatrose
2009-03-04, 16:19
Well, not that I wouldn't want to watch Tomoyo After and Planetarian, but 60 minutes for TA seems... really rushed. Anyhow, it sounds interesting, but I'm not going to start looking forward to it until the rumor is confirmed to be at least "probably true".
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-04, 17:08
A theatrical release for Key adaptations? Planetarian especially?
DO WANT.
And I really hope we get Little Busters this fall. That would be awesome.
And I really hope we get Little Busters this fall. That would be awesome.
Hmm... dunno, financially speaking I don't see KyoAni having enough money for a high level production like Little Busters after the triple CLANNAD-Munto-K-on! combo. The way I see it they'll probably need some time to build some money from the DVD sells revenues.
MeoTwister5
2009-03-04, 18:39
Planetarian needs 2-3 episodes if ever.
It's also going to rock.
SeedFreedom
2009-03-04, 20:16
DO WANT! *ahem* sorry, fanboy got out. But seriously, yes! After the very amazing Tomoyo alternate world episode last season i am very confidant they can make a short yet very satisfying Tomoyo OVA.
I'm really interested. Movies are fast paced and to me, easier to watch than animes. They get to the point. I'd be really happy if this was true.
RandomFlameStrike
2009-03-04, 21:07
60 mins for Tomoyo after seems like it would be really rushed. Well they did make Tomoyo's whole route into 1 ep and it didn't turn out bad. If Planetarian is going to be a movie then I can't wait! However, what's the point of putting to unrelated key works into one movie? O.o so you watch 60 mins of Tomoyo After and then jump into Planetarain, or did I get the wrong idea?
I'd also love to see a Little Busters anime (Since there won't be another seaons of Haruhi X.X), but I am a little worried about the amount of money KyoAni has left for these things.
Ice Block
2009-03-04, 21:36
Hmm... Taking the TA manga as an example, it may be possible to squeeze the whole game (including the ~2 mini-arcs) into just one hour. Obviously, they would have to do better than the mangaka, and they would have to rush things a bit, but KEY adaptations are always in good hands when it comes to KyoAni.
And, and!
ZEE. OHH. EMM. GEE.
Planetarian!
Movie!
*speechless*
Though with only 30 minutes, I worry about how they are going to handle the scene/mood transitions (not to mention the pace of the story). I have always had the idea that Planetarian would be best served in a 60-90 minute movie.
Well, I can sure bare with the incessant Haruhi troll announcements if they can come out with either or both of these. :heh:
Justin Kim
2009-03-04, 22:05
Wait, I don't get what this is about? What exactly is "A Tomoya After?" Does this have relation to Key's Clannad After Story? Is it like a sequel that shows what happens to Tomoya after the series ends? I am so confused, can someone please answer my question?
Wait, I don't get what this is about? What exactly is "A Tomoya After?" Does this have relation to Key's Clannad After Story? Is it like a sequel that shows what happens to Tomoya after the series ends? I am so confused, can someone please answer my question?
Real name: Tomoyo after. A game based on an alternate storyline where Tomoya, instead of pairing up with Nagisa, paired up with Tomoyo. And the ensing drama. Oh, the melodrama.
Real name: Tomoyo after. A game based on an alternate storyline where Tomoya, instead of pairing up with Nagisa, paired up with Tomoyo. And the ensing drama. Oh, the melodrama.
AH! The pain.... :(
wasn't this basically a "we know everybody didn't love jun maeda's script so those that want to make a game not featuring nagisa do it" kind thing? I mean for me at least I just felt it was probably doujinshi quality, compared to what the original clannad team did, but then again I could be totally wrong.
panzerfan
2009-03-04, 23:00
Well, Planetarian was also not out of the hands of Maeda, so in itself Tomoyo After isn't a unique exception. (Then again, that might have contributed to Planetarian being the most depressing work by Key...)
I think a 30 minute Planetarian will be such a brutal experience for the audience. I still remember being in tears when someone played kinetic novel was played on a projector screen.
well the difference with planetarian and tomoyo after is that tomoyo after clashes with what is canon in clannad, and to a fan who felt tomoyo after was not as great of a work as clannad was, having the question of canon come up is a little frustrationg, its like saying turkey is less like turkey than chicken. if that made any sense.
Leo_Otaku
2009-03-04, 23:37
I can see the one for planetarian but for Tomoyo After it should be OVA's if anything. If they do Planetarian would they trya nd do the other routes on the drama CDs?
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 01:16
wasn't this basically a "we know everybody didn't love jun maeda's script so those that want to make a game not featuring nagisa do it" kind thing? I mean for me at least I just felt it was probably doujinshi quality, compared to what the original clannad team did, but then again I could be totally wrong.
well the difference with planetarian and tomoyo after is that tomoyo after clashes with what is canon in clannad, and to a fan who felt tomoyo after was not as great of a work as clannad was, having the question of canon come up is a little frustrationg, its like saying turkey is less like turkey than chicken. if that made any sense.
Uh. Maeda DID write Tomoyo After.
I did always feel it was sort of a "Take That!" to people who didn't like the Nagisa scenario, given TA's ending, though...
Well, Planetarian was also not out of the hands of Maeda, so in itself Tomoyo After isn't a unique exception. (Then again, that might have contributed to Planetarian being the most depressing work by Key...)
From what I've heard of both TA and Planetarian... TA sounds much more depressing.
Still gotta play Planetarian though. How long is the game, anyway?
Still gotta play Planetarian though. How long is the game, anyway?
It's been a year since I last played planetarian. I think it took me 4 hours to finish the whole novel.
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 01:27
Ha. I should probably burn an afternoon on it then.
houkoholic
2009-03-05, 01:31
wasn't this basically a "we know everybody didn't love jun maeda's script so those that want to make a game not featuring nagisa do it" kind thing? I mean for me at least I just felt it was probably doujinshi quality, compared to what the original clannad team did, but then again I could be totally wrong.
No it's the other way around. Jun Maeda wanted to write something that he wants to write instead of what the company wanted ie so he doesn't have to take sales and fan preference into consideration, and after Clannad he ask the boss and got the go ahead and hence wrote Tomoyo After. And Tomoyo After is no way "doujinshi quality", it is basically as long as the Clannad After Story, and combined with the Tomoyo arc from Clannad forms just as complete of a story about life (though a completely opposite take on it) as Nagisa's route in Clannad.
Tomoyo After is Maeda Jun's rawest emotional piece of work to date. If you really want to see how his brain ticks, that's the game to play.
I did always feel it was sort of a "Take That!" to people who didn't like the Nagisa scenario, given TA's ending, though...
No, compared with Tomoyo After that's just commercial interest rearing its ugly head in Clannad. They requested Maeda Jun to write a fairly standard anime-type mircale happy ending to Clannad, which apparently Maeda Jun never took a particular liking to - he had expressed his distaste in the "somehow through lots of hardwork everything works out in the end" type of cheap miricales in the stories. TA is what he really feels that people should learn and he was able to express it without the restrictions. There's no "reaction" motivation in TA on how Clannad was received.
It's really trivialising the message in TA if all you can see is the "depressing" part, there's some serious lessons in life to be learnt in TA, more so than Clannad. Clannad still has too many elements of escaptist fantasy in it like previous Key work, whereas TA toss them out the window. In terms otf maturity and meaning I rate TA over Clannad anyday.
Uh. Maeda DID write Tomoyo After.
I did always feel it was sort of a "Take That!" to people who didn't like the Nagisa scenario, given TA's ending, though...
well all I know is that the team that did work on clannad was not there to work on ta, that's just the impression I got. So my point would be how would put in terms of canon in the clannad world. k thanks, I got it flipped around. yea i'll definitely check this out after I clear some of the games I've started already.
I understand Planetarian is a sadder story than AIR. But it is a Key product. Sad is expected.
As for Tomoyo After...as a movie...I don't know. It won't exactly be Clannad, but then it really isn't...it is a seperate game entirely.
Also don't Tomoyo and Tomoya get rather um physical in TA?
So it will be like the oav with Tomoya x Tomoyo except it will last in 60 minutes right .
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 01:45
Tomoyo After is Maeda Jun's rawest emotional piece of work to date. If you really want to see how his brain ticks, that's the game to play.
...I still think it really feels like a troll ending.
Sure it's sad and emotional and all, but it just feels so pointless and MEAN.
Sort of saying "Here's what happens when he DOESN'T pick Nagisa. Now stop bitching."
...Maybe we can finally get a female lead that no one complains about with Rin Natsume...
I understand Planetarian is a sadder story than AIR. But it is a Key product. Sad is expected.
About the only thing that's amusing is that Daisuke Ono is the male lead. AGAIN.
Also don't Tomoyo and Tomoya get rather um physical in TA?
Be glad it's a movie then. :D
It's really trivialising the message in TA if all you can see is the "depressing" part, there's some serious lessons in life to be learnt in TA, more so than Clannad. Clannad still has too many elements of escaptist fantasy in it like previous Key work, whereas TA toss them out the window. In terms otf maturity and meaning I rate TA over Clannad anyday.
He still loses his memory and DIES.
It's just such a mean ending.
well all I know is that the team that did work on clannad was not there to work on ta, that's just the impression I got. So my point would be how would put in terms of canon in the clannad world. k thanks, I got it flipped around. yea i'll definitely check this out after I clear some of the games I've started already.
Clannad operates on parallel universes and stuff like that. There's no true 'canon'.
I do hope they come up with another voice for the main male character in "Little Busters"...otherwise the voice actress is going to be talking to herself alot. :p
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 01:51
They requested Maeda Jun to write a fairly standard anime-type mircale happy ending to Clannad, which apparently Maeda Jun never took a particular liking to - he had expressed his distaste in the "somehow through lots of hardwork everything works out in the end" type of cheap miricales in the stories.
"Hard Work and Guts!"
That's how things work in anime.
Real life is somewhere in between... no EPIC TRAGEDIES but no DEUS EX either.
That said, I vastly prefer happy endings in my fiction. Personal preference.
I do hope they come up with another voice for the main male character in "Little Busters"...otherwise the voice actress is going to be talking to herself alot. :p
Jun Fukuyama wouldn't be a bad Riki, using his Shouta voice.
I can imagine them recasting both Rin and Riki, actually...
houkoholic
2009-03-05, 02:01
...I still think it really feels like a troll ending.
Sure it's sad and emotional and all, but it just feels so pointless and MEAN.
Sort of saying "Here's what happens when he DOESN'T pick Nagisa. Now stop bitching."
This is what I mean by trivialising the message. :) You've basically fallen into the same trap that the "if I don't get everything I worked for than it is pointless" group had fallen to. That is preciously the message that Maeda Jun wants to shatter in TA as life is full of such instances where you've tried you best and gets nothing in return, as you get older and older in real life, you'll be continously bombarded with such disappointments in life, and learning to pick yourself up from these disappointments is central to the theme in TA.
The message is in the pathway leading to the end, just because something bad happens it doesn't negates the good times and experiences that happens during. Plus it says a lot about how life *really* works, the point, as pointed out by Maeda Jun is to get people to face reality more and be less engrossed in escaptist fantasy (do take into consideration that anime/manga/game escaptist is quite a heavy social problem in Japan, so Maeda Jun is trying to be a bit more responsible here too). Be able to pick youself up again after being defeated - that's the beauty of the message in TA.
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 02:20
This is what I mean by trivialising the message. :) You've basically fallen into the same trap that the "if I don't get everything I worked for than it is pointless" group had fallen to. That is preciously the message that Maeda Jun wants to shatter in TA as life is full of such instances where you've tried you best and gets nothing in return, as you get older and older in real life, you'll be continously bombarded with such disappointments in life, and learning to pick yourself up from these disappointments is central to the theme in TA.
The things that happen in TA do not normally happen in real life.
I happen to be an idealist, despite my love of angsty and cynical fiction, and I believe that life isn't as bad as more serious works make it out to be.
Life is more neutral than EVERYTHING BAD HAPPENS AT ONCE FOR NO REAL REASON.
The message is in the pathway leading to the end, just because something bad happens it doesn't negates the good times and experiences that happens during. Plus it says a lot about how life *really* works, the point, as pointed out by Maeda Jun is to get people to face reality more and be less engrossed in escaptist fantasy (do take into consideration that anime/manga/game escaptist is quite a heavy social problem in Japan, so Maeda Jun is trying to be a bit more responsible here too). Be able to pick youself up again after being defeated - that's the beauty of the message in TA.
I doubt you're able to pick yourself up and enjoy the experiences in life whenYou die in such a stupidly tragic fashion. After losing your memory.
Some things I say may be inaccurate, mainly because I haven't played TA and have no wish to, but...
Also, as I have stated, life does not really work that way either. Life is full of happy AND sad things, and you CAN be rewarded for lots of hard work, although luck and talent have an equal share in success.
houkoholic
2009-03-05, 02:36
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I doubt you're able to pick yourself up and enjoy the experiences in life whenYou die in such a stupidly tragic fashion. After losing your memory.
Some things I say may be inaccurate, mainly because I haven't played TA and have no wish to, but...
Also, as I have stated, life does not really work that way either. Life is full of happy AND sad things, and you CAN be rewarded for lots of hard work, although luck and talent have an equal share in success.
You've missed the point completely. You really should refrain from making such comments when you haven't played the game.
Tomoya's death is a direct challenge to *Tomoyo* and how she has to face this wall that she has absolutely no power to change nor can run away from. It then becomes a problem of how Tomoyo comes into grips of losing Tomoya and picks herself up after Tomoya's death. Of which she did by turning it into a force to help others and not trivialising the times they had spent together. (which I must add, is a direct opposite to what Tomoya did when he lost Nagisa in Clannad, which show then has the better message?)
The death which Tomoya had to face was not about how Tomoya can pick himself up at all (actually he did as well, he did regain his memory, but at a cost of a much shorter and harder life, as well as being able to get Tomoyo to move on while he was still alive).
Facing the death of love ones is also a hardship that everyone must face one day too. Plus one must also accept the fact that you do not live forever. That is part of life also.
Also there were happy things in TA as well, and epic trageties does happen in real life (a sudden passing away of a love one is FAR from unrealistic, though the incident causing it might be, as in the case of entertainment), you really shouldn't make assumptions when you haven't played the game.
Also, as I have stated, life does not really work that way either. Life is full of happy AND sad things, and you CAN be rewarded for lots of hard work, although luck and talent have an equal share in success.
It most certainly does. There are WAY more things in life where you have no control over than there are things which you can. For example tell that to the millions of honest hardworking people whom had lost jobs and money due to the current economic crisis.
Also of course you *can* be rewarded for hardwork, *can* being the modifier. TA doesn't exclude that possibility (in fact it includes it in many ways too). However it is not you WILL MOST DEFINITELY be rewarded for hardwork, which is what a lot of entertainment work does (even in Clannad). What TA does is present the other scenario when things don't go "right".
Interesting debate...considering it is a rumor...at best right now.
A 30 minute ova/movie would be too short to do any of the routes aside from the main one I'm guessing. So basically the Toei "Clannad" treatment, just with "Tomoyo After" instead?
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-05, 03:10
*snip*
We're both clearly biased, so I see no point in continuing.
You're more right than I am anyway.
Spectacular_Insanity
2009-03-05, 03:43
why tomoya after?? 60 minutes is not even enough sigh... give some of the other heroines a chance but thats just my 2 cents
Nice idea, but they aren't the main characters, tyvm.
Tha being said, I hope it gets subbed. I would love to watch it, and I too hope they keep the same voice actor. He's amazing.
30 minutes for Planetarian can be enough, but 60 for Tomoyo After isn't really. Anyway it's good to hear about an animation versions if this rumour is true.
Some offtopic: I still haven't played only one their VN - Little Busters. How long is EX version for all routes ? You can compare it to Clannad.
panzerfan
2009-03-05, 04:39
Well, TA to me wasn't nearly as crippling as Planetarian due to the actual scope of the discussion regarding humanity through the piece. Post-apocalyptic world is not uncommon in fiction, but by nuclear holocaust makes Planetarian slightly taboo to the Japanese mind. Whereas TA feels like a more constrained piece of interpersonal malodrama focused on Tomoya and Tomoyo, Planetarian speaks volume on the very contradiction of beauty and the unsightly nature to humanity.
I do think that Tomoyo After should be a mini-series in its own right instead of 60 minute length too. I wonder if KyoAni is only going to focus on the principal path then...
Looking back on why Planetarian made more impression to me, the (lack of) silver lining from a world already ablazed and people made broken, coupled with a bitter aftertaste of space-age naiveté, followed with the definition of humanity itself and completed with that neverending dream of reaching for the stars sealed the deal for me. (why does it feel as if I am writing about Fallout 3...?)
TA end that way & Tomoya deserves it since he chooses Tomoyo. Nagisa must curse him for sure.
Justin Kim
2009-03-05, 05:56
A game that's only 60 minutes of playing time to beat? (That's not very pleasant T_T).
swtrooper42
2009-03-05, 20:27
I always thought that Planetarian would work better as an hour or 90 minute movie. Is 30 minutes really that long to build up proper tension and emotion? An hour would be best.
Tomoyo After would work best as a 6 episode series. Maybe 12 at the most, Like AIR.
Looking back on why Planetarian made more impression to me, the (lack of) silver lining from a world already ablazed and people made broken, coupled with a bitter aftertaste of space-age naiveté, followed with the definition of humanity itself and completed with that neverending dream of reaching for the stars sealed the deal for me.
That's what I liked about it too. "This is the world after the great war. It's crap. Humanity is slowly dying. We deal with it."
It is what it is, a tragic KEY story transplanted into a dystopian environment.
my main issue is that with tomoyo after, I want them to do tomoyo arc from clannad and combine it with tomoyo after so that it actually makes sense, instead of just making it a spinoff from clannad s1, if that makes any sense? because in clannad s1 the entire anime is building the nagisa theme, so if they redid clannad s1 with tomoyo route i would enjoy that continuity better than just ta
Leo_Otaku
2009-03-05, 22:28
I can not compare Clannad to Tomoyo After. Clannad is KEY's writing to the highest level taking the other universe, theme, emotional stories and combing them. It was like ONE, Kanon and AIR lead to the creation of it.
While Tomoyo After isn't set with magical themes at all. It is a more realistic approach. I admire it for the story that it is and the message it has. Which is why I don't think Clannad should end without the proper end or they would be too similiar. The whole purpose of Clannad needed to have what it did to create the ending.
Tomoyo After took what it hads to craete
I wonder if they would go for the more open-ended PS2 version (and the non-h versions of certain scenes it has) compared to the PC edition, if they do animate Tomoyo After?
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-06, 14:33
You know what I'd like to see?
The same story, but without the Clannad characters. They could act the damn same, but be different characters, and the story at its core would still work.
It'd be just a story about a young couple and their hardships, then. Which would probably sell better in theaters. Maybe.
i hope to god they release planetarian, it is my favorite Key story.
Kagekyuubi
2009-03-08, 07:53
But 30 minutes? That could work but it's a little hard to believe that planetarian, a game that took me 5 hours to finish, is going to be shrunk into 30 minutes. At least make it 45 minutes!!
NettoSaito
2009-03-13, 21:00
i think it would be nice if they did this, or heck, they could most likely even make maybe a 10 ep OVA of it. (maybe longer).
Really i've only read the manga so im not sure how long the game is, but i can see the manga being made into a 10 or so ep ova.
but the movie works 2 ^_^
If this blog (http://fuuing.blog53.fc2.com/blog-entry-19.html) is to be believed, Kyoto Animation will announce details of a joint Tomoyo After/planetarian theatrical release after the last episode of CLANNAD AFTER. Supposedly, Tomoyo After will occupy 60 minutes of the showing time and planetarian will take 30 minutes. I guess we will find out soon if it's for real or not...
That's impossible, I mean it'd be awesome but... ><
MeoTwister5
2009-03-13, 21:17
I can't be made to care about Tomoyo After, but out of everything I freaking want Planetarian.
And I will go so far as to claim the possibility that it will be one of the greatest OVA's ever made.
germanturkey
2009-03-17, 20:52
yeah.. an episode definitely won't work for this. i propose a movie or a mini series.
Master Chibi
2009-03-17, 21:04
Jesus shit, reading this makes me want to go nowhere near TA, especially since I've had enough of people getting shit on and I absolutely love Tomoyo.
No Ushio in Tomoyo After :(
Also from what I can tell, no "magical realism".
Master Chibi
2009-03-17, 21:26
I love Ushio, but I love Tomoyo more, and no magical realism sounds great.
Except it'll probably lead to more depressing shit.
D:
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-17, 21:30
I love Ushio, but I love Tomoyo more, and no magical realism sounds great.
Except it'll probably lead to more depressing shit.
D:
Yaaaaaaay Key.
I'm playing the first release of the Little Busters patch right now, and everything SEEMS happy, but you know it's going to get very depressing very quickly.
This is Key. You can never escape it.
Leo_Otaku
2009-03-17, 21:32
no there is someone who is like Ushio >.> http://calamitousintents.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/1-01.jpg
Kaisos Erranon
2009-03-17, 21:33
Hahahaha.
What, is she like Ushio's clone or something?
Hmm... she's Tomo, a character from the game, but I guess proper talk about TA plot and characters would have to take place in the Tomoyo After thread, and not here.
Tomoyo's younger half-sister Tomo I think is what the bio says.
Master Chibi
2009-03-17, 21:41
Hmm... she's Tomo, a character from the game, but I guess proper talk about TA plot and characters would have to take place in the Tomoyo After thread, and not here.
yeah
stop fucking with me already
*runs away*
Leo_Otaku
2009-03-17, 21:45
LOL chibi
yeah she isn't Ushio she just reminds me of her when I first saw her ^-^"
Yaaaaaaay Key.
I'm playing the first release of the Little Busters patch right now, and everything SEEMS happy, but you know it's going to get very depressing very quickly.
This is Key. You can never escape it.
And you, no we, keep coming back for more.
Masochists. :eyespin:
I saw Planetarian differently. It was very depressing and very sad but...
The ending was very open and very hopeful. There IS more than the kinetic novel. Search for it.
germanturkey
2009-03-18, 16:02
yeah... watching an animated TA might kill me. its absolutely brutal, no matter how you look at it. but its good though, since there's no magical resolution to make things better. its much more down to earth.
germanturkey
2009-03-19, 21:13
after reading about planetarian, this seems like a good game to animate and slay viewers even more.
panzerfan
2009-03-19, 21:23
I think the best way for me to illustrate Planetarian's effects would be ... that long after I finished the kinetic novel, I actually wept when I saw that planetarium in Fallout 3 the post-apocalyptic game.
Come to think of it, I still feel sad everytime I hear Hoshi Meguri no Uta. You don't listen to this thing when you read about space science.
@germanturkey: 9.
germanturkey
2009-03-19, 21:35
which one is Hoshi Meguri no Uta? like # on the ost. Gentle Jena is slowly killing me on repeat..
MeoTwister5
2009-03-19, 23:35
The long version of Gentle Jena in the Planetarian OST CD is one of the most beautiful instrumental works ever made. Period.
RandomFlameStrike
2009-03-22, 21:41
I saw Planetarian differently. It was very depressing and very sad but...
The ending was very open and very hopeful. There IS more than the kinetic novel. Search for it.
Wait wut? Did we read the same ending? I was crying by the tons and thinking about how lol hopeless it was.
Also what's this about a Little Busters patch?!!!!!! Any details plox, or am I just being stupid?
MeoTwister5
2009-03-22, 22:36
Actually for me behind the tears, was also hope.:)
I happen to believe that inside that memory card that the Junker took was not only Reverie's memories of the stars long forgotten but also up until the point that she... "died" saving him. The Junker left with renewed hope in himself, in humanity, and the stars above that Reveries wanted to share with a broken human race that had forgotten to hope and dream. I believe he threw away the gun not because it was hopeless, but because he no longer needed to use it. His weapon was Reverie's memories now.
30 seconds later the other robots came and he went kapoot. The end.
:'(
AngryDango
2009-03-22, 23:54
am i missing something? a joke? There is a CD drama of Planetarian that follow events of the visual novel.
The junker does not die at the end of the visual novel.
There are 3 drama cds :
Snow Globe
This story occurs before the events of the Great War that brought the world to ruin; at this point, Yumemi has been working at the Flowercrest Department Store's rooftop planetarium for about ten years. One day, Yumemi begins to act strangely, culminating in her simply walking out and wandering around the town. The staff of the planetarium are bewildered, and one of the workers—a woman named Satomi Kurahashi—is ordered to go follow Yumemi and bring her back. Before long, Yumemi begins to run out of battery power.
Jerusalem
This story occurs as the Great War reaches its height. The South American Unification Army receives reports of a rogue sniper operating deep in the jungles of Patagonia, and sends a platoon under the command of Master Sergeant Murdock to neutralize the threat. However, the entire platoon is killed off one by one by the sniper, until only Murdock is left. All alone, Murdock catches a glimpse of this mysterious sniper through his binoculars—and is shocked to find that he gazes upon the figure of a beautiful nun.
Hoshi no Hito
This story occurs some time after the events of the kinetic novel, as the human civilizations struggle in a losing battle against the poisonous rain. Three of the last inhabitants of a nearly-abandoned underground fallout shelter—named Levi, Ruth, and Job—find a quaint old man collapsed in the snow outside the bunker. When they bring him down, they are surprised to hear the adults of the shelter calling him "Man of the Stars". The children grow quite interested about this strange nickname, as well as the fact that they have never seen a visitor from the outside world. The old man recovers a bit, and then has the children help him in putting together a certain device. It is only after this that the story that began in the kinetic novel comes full circle.
MeoTwister5
2009-03-23, 06:28
Uh... the "Man" in your spoilers for the last drama CD is most likely the Junker himself.
And that device?
Only one device... or robot... comes to mind...
Yeah, I think the same way.
Justin Kim
2009-03-23, 06:36
Guys, ok I am really confused now to what TA is anyhow. First it was Tomoya After, now it's Planetarian. What exactly is Tomoya After, a movie? Or another light novel adaptation? What is it about? I am so confused.
Tempester
2009-03-23, 06:41
Guys, ok I am really confused now to what TA is anyhow. First it was Tomoya After, now it's Planetarian. What exactly is Tomoya After, a movie? Or another light novel adaptation? What is it about? I am so confused.
Everyone calls it Tomoya After by mistake, but it's really Tomoyo After. Tomoyo After (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoyo_after) is the visual novel sequel to the Tomoyo path/route in Clannad.
Justin Kim
2009-03-23, 06:59
Erg...is this going to be made into an episode, and why is it that some people in the previous posts are saying there will be no such release or such thing as a Tomoya After. Unless I am missing something. I thought one of the Clannad OVA's involved a relationship between Tomoya and Tomoyo? Are they releasing a new episode, and wikipedia kinda states that the game has already been released via DVD on pc. Now that post just confused me even more? Care to fill me on the details?
Tempester
2009-03-23, 07:16
Erg...is this going to be made into an episode, and why is it that some people in the previous posts are saying there will be no such release or such thing as a Tomoya After. Unless I am missing something. I thought one of the Clannad OVA's involved a relationship between Tomoya and Tomoyo? Are they releasing a new episode, and wikipedia kinda states that the game has already been released via DVD on pc. Now that post just confused me even more? Care to fill me on the details?
Who knows if there is a Tomoya After. I don't completely doubt it's existence, but I don't know of any. If there is such a thing, it must be some really obscure fanfiction.
The Clannad OVA covered the Tomoyo story in Clannad. Tomoyo After is the sequel to that story.
People expect the game that has been long released on PC to be adapted into an animation. I don't know how long the anime will be, it could be a TV series, an OVA series or a movie. There is no confirmation yet though.
*Thinks about playing Planetarian, in a planetarium, with a nice, big, drop-down projector screen*
*Mind explodes*
therationalpi
2009-03-31, 00:04
*Thinks about playing Planetarian, in a planetarium, with a nice, big, drop-down projector screen*
*Mind explodes*Everytime I pass the planetarium at my university I wish I could go in there and find a cute robot girl. Someday I will make that dream a reality, no idea how though. :/
Justin Kim
2009-04-08, 16:06
Ok so if I am right, Planetarian is a visual game, so this thread is based off of 2 speculated releases? Tomoyo After the Movie, and a Planetarian Movie? Does Planetarian have an anime adaptation as well?
Planetarian is a kinetic novel (no arcs or paths) by Key that from my understanding takes about 4 hours to play. It can probably be done in a single movie though there are some additional short stories based on Planetarian that add to the story.
Tomoyo After is another Visual Novel with several arcs based partly on Tomoyo's route in Clannad. It is basically the length of Clannad's "After Story" section, though this story has none of the magical elements of Clannad. It could be told in a series of OVAs or a short anime TV series. A movie seems too short to cover the material and the various arcs involved.
MrTerrorist
2009-04-11, 13:56
Can somebody tell me about "Clannad - Tomoyo Dearest" manga?
According to what i read at TV Tropes, it not a Tomoyo After re-interpretation but is set after "Clannad - After Story".
Here's a pic (http://www.akibaos.com/img/2008/10/08/20081008b11s.jpg).
Any info about this manga will be helpful. Thanks.
Can somebody tell me about "Clannad - Tomoyo Dearest" manga?
According to what i read at TV Tropes, it not a Tomoyo After re-interpretation but is set after "Clannad - After Story".
Here's a pic (http://www.akibaos.com/img/2008/10/08/20081008b11s.jpg).
Any info about this manga will be helpful. Thanks.
This is a manga where it picks up the story from the Tomoyo arc in Clannad and before Tomoyo After featuring, well, Tomoyo. Its a story about how Tomoyo achieved the goal of being school council president, and her meeting with the school delinquent, Tomoya, which changed her destiny. This only lasted 1 issue.
This is from the same author who illustrated the Tomoyo After manga.
- Tak
MrTerrorist
2009-04-11, 15:10
This is a manga where it picks up the story from the Tomoyo arc in Clannad and before Tomoyo After featuring, well, Tomoyo. Its a story about how Tomoyo achieved the goal of being school council president, and her meeting with the school delinquent, Tomoya, which changed her destiny. This only lasted 1 issue.
This is from the same author who illustrated the Tomoyo After manga.
- Tak
That's the story? I thought it was about Tomoyo helping Tomoya him deal with death of Nagisa in After Story and gradually fall in love with each other, helps him reconnect with his daughter, becoming a mother figure to her, finally getting married with Tomoya and start a new life together.
That's the story? I thought it was about Tomoyo helping Tomoya him deal with death of Nagisa in After Story and gradually fall in love with each other, helps him reconnect with his daughter, becoming a mother figure to her, finally getting married with Tomoya and start a new life together.
Zuh!? :twitch:
You are expecting way too much :heh:
Besides, there is a reason why we have Kyou After :D
- Tak
Kaisos Erranon
2009-04-11, 18:18
That's the story? I thought it was about Tomoyo helping Tomoya him deal with death of Nagisa in After Story and gradually fall in love with each other, helps him reconnect with his daughter, becoming a mother figure to her, finally getting married with Tomoya and start a new life together.
Sounds more like wishful thinking to me. :heh:
Anime Daisuki
2009-05-09, 19:54
Any news on the Tomoyo After?
Leo_Otaku
2009-05-09, 22:44
Nothing so far Kyoani really likes to keep things under wrap. We probably won't know anything until K-ON is over, October or C76. Maybe at the special screening of the Kyou special even.
Sure Tomoyo After is only the length of Afterstory? (Havn't gone through afterstory yet but it doesn't seem THAT long.) Cos there is a crapload of Tomoyo After left to translate. Not as long as Clannad of course but still alot.
On another note seeing as there's no new status on Haruhi either I agree it's probably be a while before we hear more.
Kaisos Erranon
2009-05-24, 00:33
On another note seeing as there's no new status on Haruhi either I agree it's probably be a while before we hear more.
Wha? Did you miss the fact that there's new Haruhi episodes?
Well it isn't as if they announced Haruhi's return on CNN or something. :)
Wha? Did you miss the fact that there's new Haruhi episodes?
*#$%^#$^& you're kidding!!!!
xD no I havn't been checking recently (sorry I lost all hope.) but...
no release date right? S2 was *declared* ages ago. We all know its coming, just not when.
*#$%^#$^& you're kidding!!!!
xD no I havn't been checking recently (sorry I lost all hope.) but...
no release date right? S2 was *declared* ages ago. We all know its coming, just not when.
There's already a new episode that aired...you really should go check the Haruhi sub-forums >_>
I fail.
Forgive me Haruhi sama
*commits seppuku*
Kyero Fox
2009-06-29, 17:07
after only watching a few episodes with Tomoyo screen time, I feel in love with her :heh: I really can't wait for this to come out (If it does)
after only watching a few episodes with Tomoyo screen time, I feel in love with her :heh: I really can't wait for this to come out (If it does)
This, this, and this. I just watched the Tomoyo OVA and need more.
Damn evil bumps lol, i thought there was more planetariam news.
I want my planetarian NAO!
now kyoani!
Unless they say something, I don't think we'll get that this Fall. Maybe Spring?
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