Soul Eater - Episode 48 Discussion / Poll

[White Manju Bun]

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[v1cious]

well that's two witches down. i have to admit i liked this one better than last week, the fight between Ashura and the Shinigami was cool. i have no idea how this is gonna end now. the preview for 49 looks good, though.

[EphiamOricuna]

So after all that, Arachne died without even doing...anything. She died just like all the other villains in most games and shows where they think they have some kind of greater power under control. And she died without a struggle. She just seemed like an after-thought. Regardless of her strong point being that she was able to manipulate and exploit the weaknesses of others, and that she was a fighter of the mind, prefering not to dirty her hands...she didn't even have anything ready incase just such a situation were to arise. No fail-safe, no Anti-anything. No clones, no mind-control, no possession, and not even any greater form of manupulation. That was sad. Just sad.

Anyway, it was alright, I suppose. But Arachne dying like that was...face-palm worthy.

[lmd_84]

I think Arachne's death made sense under the circumstances. She didn't fight back because she wasn't expecting Asura to turn on her, having been convinced that she had his trust. Until he was snatched from the castle, Asura had been in the same place he'd been for several episodes; in his bed at Arachne's side. There was no reason in Arachne's mind for her to employ a fail-safe or further manipulation.

Considering this is the man who a while ago was claimed to fear everything, she should have known better from the start. The Heretic over-reached herself when it came to using her pet Kishin.

As for the rest of it - What else would Shinigami do but get between his people, including his son, and Asura's attack? Without understanding the dialogue I'm not sure, but it looked as though up until that fatal point neither god were causing one another too much damage. Even the Soul Resonance attack wasn't having much of an effect. And these are supposedly the strongest pair in the series. At this point I would be questioning Asura's fate had the Demon Slayer wavelength not been established a while ago.

[EphiamOricuna]

Yes, but I would not minded it near as much were she not the sister who was supposed to use her brain more-so than her brawn. She had the intelligence to go and rig the entire BREW scenario, making it appear as though she had been the one in control, and using Shibusen's fear of BREW to her advantage. This is a woman who scattered her soul across the globe in fear of complete erasure. She also developed the Demon Weapons, and used Eibon's plans to contruct deadly Demon Tools, too.

She knew what she was getting in to, and yet she did nothing in an attempt to stop the worst case scenario from appearing. I agree that she may have become over-confident in her abilities, but even then I find it hard to believe that she did nothing at all to prevent a death that was very possible in the situation that she was in.

Then again, she had t be killed off in order to reach a near-satisfactory ending. What would become of the story if they had left a villain alive in the end?

Though one thing bugs me...alot of the things I've seen from both the Openings, Endings, and just the plot in general seemed to hint to me that Arachne would play a bigger role. She was always perched atop a web, was themed as a spider, and always had that air about her that told us that she was in complete control. The other characters were merely flys caught in her web, Kishin included. So maybe she left us a parting gift in death? Asura is weak at heart, and has a very unstable mind, so maybe she may effect him from within. I mean, I may be looking in to it a tad too far, but leaving us with the "Gulp"ing sound of Asura devouring her gave me an odd feeling. Why do that twice in a row?

But eh. What happens now happens.

Also, you may want to spoiler-tag your post!

[Clarste]

Arachne never did anything, but that was to be expected. Despite all her posturing, she's never actually accomplished anything, so I have no idea why people expected her to. It was clear to me after the BREW arc that she has no idea what she's doing, but likes to think that she's in charge. A fitting end for her, although it should've happened a long time ago. Her existence was a disservice to Asura's threatening presence.

Edit: Oh yeah, I wonder what's going to happen to Mosquito now? Maybe he'll job to Asura.

[carcanclaw]

Well... that was pretty intense. I'm definitely thinking that Shinigami isn't dead; since we know from Ashura's first fight that Shinigami can lose half of his head and be fine... and we haven't seen his true form yet, so anything is possible.

I entirely agree with Clarste that Arachne didn't know what she was doing, so her death wasn't too surprising.

Next week looks weird. I think Giriko vs Justin will finally conclude, and hopefully Maka & co won't have much luck taking down Ashura (setting the stage for a surprise Shinigami comeback!!)

[lmd_84]

Shinigami's true form? Considering he's had basically the same shape for at least 800 years, I think the black, white and thin thing is it for him. I know the manga implies he has a human form, but...that's the manga. It does things differently, and I think if anything's going to turn the tables in Shinigami's favour, it won't include what he looks like but what he's capable of. If anything, at the moment.

[Deathkillz]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF! D:
Oh my god, what just happened :uhoh:

I mean, in a good sense this was an awesome episode. I think I can end up linking this adaption even if it is different from the source.

There was a lot of talk between Shinigami and Asura which needs to be cleared up with the subs but for the most important part it is that Asura said that he won because he didn't have anything to care about (you know the usual "I am strong because I am alone" argument). This time it did turn out in his favor since Shinigami was defeated again...but it was really unfair...

Though for shinigami, he came across as being too weak since his attacks pretty much did nothing to Asura who just kept on talking.

He probably isn't dead...since Kid has yet to do that "you know what" thing yet which I suppose might still happen :heh:

As for Arachne...boy was she shocked. She was foolish enough to let her guard down because it is Asura...bad idea though since it is the creator of insanity.
I think the reason why he did kill her was because of the "being alone" mentality he has in that he realised that he had someone besides him to look out for him. Arachne was a weakness he can make do without which caused him to be "afraid" and then to kill her.

Hopefully Arachne isn't dead yet or that will royaly suck...what are the chances of that soul being fake? (Kitty cat did a similar thing before :heh:).

[Kotobasuu]

baawww

poor kidd ;__;

[lmd_84]

@Deathkillz - Asura isn't quite alone. He has his friggin' Weapon inside of him. ;) I see your point, though. I'm guessing Asura mentions he's won because he's along just before or after he attacks Kid and the others?

@Kotobasuu - I wouldn't worry. His daddy isn't dead yet.

[Deathkillz]

@Deathkillz - Asura isn't quite alone. He has his friggin' Weapon inside of him. ;) I see your point, though. I'm guessing Asura mentions he's won because he's along just before or after he attacks Kid and the others?

He said that afterwards. Before he said something about Shinigami's rule of saving the living (or something like that). Well it was a big enough hint to know what he will be attacking next.

[carcanclaw]

Shinigami's true form? Considering he's had basically the same shape for at least 800 years, I think the black, white and thin thing is it for him. I know the manga implies he has a human form, but...that's the manga. It does things differently, and I think if anything's going to turn the tables in Shinigami's favour, it won't include what he looks like but what he's capable of. If anything, at the moment.

"]Well a good number of people have acknowledged that he's wearing a mask in the anime as well, so evidently that's not what he really looks like. When you see Shinigami lying there "dead", there's always the possibility that it's just the cloak/mask he's always wearing that was damaged. (Nude Shinigami on the loose??)

But yeah, I just think that if Bones doesn't decide to show his real face when/if he
beats Ashura it won't have the same "wow"factor.

[Kotobasuu]

@Kotobasuu - I wouldn't worry. His daddy isn't dead yet.



He probably isn't, but seeing Kidd's bambi!face was so cute but painful for a shameless fangirl like me to see ;__;

[lmd_84]

"]Well a good number of people have acknowledged that he's wearing a mask in the anime as well, so evidently that's not what he really looks like. When you see Shinigami lying there "dead", there's always the possibility that it's just the cloak/mask he's always wearing that was damaged. (Nude Shinigami on the loose??)

But yeah, I just think that if Bones doesn't decide to show his real face when/if he
beats Ashura it won't have the same "wow"factor.

Oh, I'm not suggesting Shinigami doesn't have a real face, just that we're not going to see it in the anime. Though it would be neat. It would also be a fun continuation of his...oddness...for him to appear badly injured only for it to be his mask and robes that are all tattered. He's not entirely goofy, nor is he 'evil', and oh look that wasn't even his real body that Asura blew up.... :P

@Kotobasuu - Yeah, Bambi or the Lion King came to mind.

[Change of Pace]

I'm actually betting Bones WILL keep Shinigami dead, just to add impact and change and be different. Maybe throw in an epilogue several years in the future with Kid over seeing Shibusen with the Thompson sisters as his death scythes? And older!Mifune and Ann teaching, and the whole lot? Idk, I don't think there's reason enough to revive Shinigami; Bones may have Maka-tachi defeat the Kishin in the end (which, imho, is sort of bull shit because, asides from the fact that I find Maka an extremely irritating character, they really are NOT strong enough, no matter how you slice it.)

In any case, like I said, I'm betting they'll keep him dead because there haven't been many deaths in the anime rendition, and, y'know, I think Bones could pass Shinigami off as the necessary "sacrifice" !

[lmd_84]

I suspect that Shinigami's comment a while about the demonslayer wavelength being able to tackle the Kishin, plus backed up by Stein in 46 will be used as justification for Maka being able to destroy Asura herself. They might lessen the enormity of the event (school-girl vs. quasi-god-thingie) through Chain Resonance linking up the others (not just Black Star and Kid, but the adults as well), but generally I think that's what Bones' aiming for.

I'd like to see a epilogue of somesort. If Shinigami's dead, I'd like to see an older Kid having replaced him. And on the subject of Death Scythes, what on earth will Kid do for Weapons when the Thompsons die? Hunt around for another symmetrical pair?

[Change of Pace]

And on the subject of Death Scythes, what on earth will Kid do for Weapons when the Thompsons die? Hunt around for another symmetrical pair?
He'll turn into Eibon II and try to create immortality.

[Chase]

wow, that was an epic fight. And a fitting way for Shinigami to lose if you ask me tho it was sad.:upset:. Even with all the seriousness, the episode kept its humor, enter Excalibur. lol @ him calling Ashura a fool, questioning him and being so calm about things. Talk about uber level power.:heh:.

Black Star was up to his usual which was good to see in the episode. Arcahne's advisor sucks, cuz he or she should have told her a long time ago that this would end up happening to her, what a naive idiot.

I would say this is a 10/10 episode, but its more like an 11/10:cool:. Bones delivered to me this episode

[Goshin]

thought the episode was great untill the anti climactic end. also the setting was too bright the fight did not feel epic enough, not like their round 1 match,

if maka defeats him it will make no sense at all

[denice25]

Perfect 10...

[lmd_84]

Asura's insistence on understanding in order to prevent fear is very reminiscent of Kid's need to fix everything. Yet Shinigami has never called his son out on any such similarities to the man he describes as having never been calm unless he could solve a problem. Makes me wonder just how Kid will fare if he's to take Shinigami's place. Neither character seems to recognise that there is a limit to how far the world can be 'fixed', whether you're a god or not. I got the impression from Shinigami that he took it rather personally that Asura betrayed his partner, that he ate him.

Still the title means nothing to me. The past tense in 'had' is confusing, and there was nothing significant about either of the Death Scythes present during the fight. The subtitle is clear, though. The bright blue sky and clouds is a fun contrast to the approaching darkness the anime's created.

[OutSmart]

8.5/10

overall a good episode that made me go wtf right before the end... For the suprise factor, advance in history, coolness of asura, shimigami and excalibur, and the comic relief from the god Black Star I think this was an overall great episode.

Even so, they rly fucked up on the shimigami's death part.

I mean, it was like so fast... and there was no BG music, there was no EPIC shot out and I didnt felt that what happened was actually gonna happen.. The scene was not deep at all... I think should have been.

oh well, plz do not fuck up with the 3 finals..

[lmd_84]

Oh, I don't think that bit needed to be epic. One, it had been hinted since the beginning that Asura would attack Kid - he looked to him at least once, plus the Kishin's notion of fear makes it a fair assumption that both father and son would be in the firing line at some point and two I found the fact that it wasn't over-done in style (music, visuals, etc) actually effective. Shinigami and the bystanders weren't expecting it, and the look of the scene reflected that. I liked how they pulled it off.

[OutSmart]

Hmm.. I thought it sucked and it was lamme lol..

I would liked it to be epic... I dont even feel like shimigami-sama is dead, because of the suckfest of that moment... I mean.. It was the end of one of the more loved characters in soul eater and still those guys dont make it a nice goodbye. I mean.. shimgami deserved the epic music and the epic slow motion wathevrer, he deserved it to be epic because even if he wasn't shimigami, it was a character ready to die on that moment, sacrificing him self for the others..

Lets see how the next goes

[motaku96]

Hmmm...It was an alright episode. Is shinigami really dead? It happened pretty fast. It just seems like he might be seriously injured. I wanted to see Excalibur do something. Well Arachne's dead. I wanted to see her fight.

[Alchemist007]

lol arachne was all "I've got u by the ballz" *stab...gulp*
Try to control insanity master, not gonna happen!

[EoT]

Episode didn't really make me feel excited at all unfortunately. Seemed more of the same of the other Shinigami vs Asura fight.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Arachne got pwnt. LOL.

And poor Shinigami-sama. :(

I saw both deaths coming from a mile away, though. One the Kishin started talking about laws and constraining yourself, I KNEW he was gonna take Kidd & Co. hostage. I had no idea it would happen so fast, though.

Arachne's death... well, how could you NOT know? I mean, the Kishin is fearful of everything, and kills whatever he fears. In other words, I knew his attachment to Arachne would eventually kill her, it was just a matter of time. I knew she would get killed by Asura in due time.

[Jerseykid]

So would Shinigami-sama have won if Kid and the rest weren't there? He seemed pretty ineffective the entire fight.

[Alchemist007]

Who knows, he got killed by a shot that he was also able to block but I guess didn't have enough time to block when he stopped it there.

[lmd_84]

That's a question. Shinigami acted surprised that Asura reckoned he could kill him, then stated he would kill the Kishin "perfectly", to Spirit's unease. And yet neither appeared to be doing one another much damage up until the point Shinigami put himself between Kid, the others, and Asura's attack.

Even the Soul Resonance attack only resulted in cutting off Asura's arm, but Shinigami didn't react as though it was a serious failure, perhaps confident that he had more up his proverbial sleeve. Or perhaps over-confident of his own skills.

[viperx116]

I still don't get how Shinigami get owned by a blast like that. Asura used that blast a few times and Shinigami shrugged it off like nothing. I guess you can only get hurt if you're trying to protect someone.

[Alchemist007]

Some say he just ditched his clothes.

[SwiftStrike]

doesnt look like he died...

[libba]

baawww

poor kidd ;__;

YES. :( First the whole Eibon thing is so anticlimactic (though it suppose it was a relief in some sense), then this.
Is he going to become the mask-wearing Shinigami-sama now (and we won't see his pretty yellow eyes anymore) while Maka releases her wavelength to weaken the Demon God, and Black*Star uses his demonic shadows to bind Kid's soul to Death City in order to capture Kishin again?

[lmd_84]

That would do nothing but re-establish the status quo from before Medusa freed the Kishin. With Asura and Death bound to one place, essentially nothing would have changed and the threats from that situation would still be there. I think Bones will do something far more permanent to Asura, and that Kid will not be tied to Death City.

(I also think that having Kid bound to the city would defeat Shinigami's purpose in having an heir in the first place, but that's another matter...)

[libba]

But it would be so dramatically neat. :D Recurring destiny, life goes in a circle and all that.
Though I don't want such a future for Kid, it's pretty sad. Almost like a prison, even if it's a nice one and full of friends.

I'm also intrigued by the whole idea of semi-mortal gods who produce heirs. I mean, look at it from the technical point of view. If there is only one family line of Death (as Shinigami-sama seems to be one and only Death God), where did Kid's mother come from? They weren't doing it like Egyptian rulers and marrying their own sisters, I guess. So, how then? Is Kid half-mortal? But we've never been told anything like that, and anyway it would mean that Death's blood would get more and more diluted as time goes. It wouldn't work.
What if Kid for some reason cannot produce an heir, or, even simplier, dies before he does? (Poor Kid, why am I always thinking up some tragic story for him?) Will the world be left without Death?
I guess this topic is more fitting for 'general discussion' though...

[NakedAngelX]

But it would be so dramatically neat. :D Recurring destiny, life goes in a circle and all that.
Though I don't want such a future for Kid, it's pretty sad. Almost like a prison, even if it's a nice one and full of friends.

I'm also intrigued by the whole idea of semi-mortal gods who produce heirs. I mean, look at it from the technical point of view. If there is only one family line of Death (as Shinigami-sama seems to be one and only Death God), where did Kid's mother come from? They weren't doing it like Egyptian rulers and marrying their own sisters, I guess. So, how then? Is Kid half-mortal? But we've never been told anything like that, and anyway it would mean that Death's blood would get more and more diluted as time goes. It wouldn't work.
What if Kid for some reason cannot produce an heir, or, even simplier, dies before he does? (Poor Kid, why am I always thinking up some tragic story for him?) Will the world be left without Death?
I guess this topic is more fitting for 'general discussion' though...

Shinigami's bisexual :D But he is bond to one rule, can only produce one until the other one dies xD. (One day when Kid realize he is bisexual too, it'd be like noooo i'm not fking proportional loll)

[libba]

Now that would be even more tragic, considering the lack of symmetry :D

[-Sho-]

Asura pawn all ? In this episode , it acts like Shinigami's attack don't hurt him at all XD Shinigami lose , well it wasn't surprising for me ^^ when i saw Asura looking at Kid and the others , i knew it will target them .
AHAHAH , Arachne ! Take that ! lol Asura is the demon god don't forget !

Hmmm 3 episodes left , its short , a 2nd season ? i dunno because i know that the anime don't follow the manga so ...

[risingstar3110]

This Ep was lame that it basically downgraded the whole series by a level. I have started skipping events and fell asleep watching SE (I'm serious) recently. But now it's worse, hoping to see the ending already


Even if SHinigami didn't die from such attack because...blah, blah, blah.... It's still super lame how they try to put everyone in one room and let Shinigami have such lame blocking.

I saw from mile away the stupidity of leaving newbies close to the duel of super boss. Was hoping they would not make such stupid mistake since we still have a Death Scythe and Excalibur on guard there.

Wth. I used to like Se, but since when SE became so terrible. Small fights becomes like "Sailor Moon" ending with one super hit. Big fight ends up like a joke

[-Sho-]

Its a shame for you . You don't like this type of events .
Well its your choice .

[Davyd]

I don't really like how the anime goes. It's ... too different from the manga, more "childish", more gentle and bright.

But I also read the manga, so it maybe influence my opinion.