Cross game

[Heibi]

Or even Central Anime, their translations aren't usually half bad.

Our translator is a native speaker.

[Free]

I get somewhat irked off when my subs (Sub Smith) are written-off as speed-subs, so allow me to make a case. Zd and I work 12 hours straight each Sunday to produce the releases. I hypothesize, whichever group you follow, and not just for Cross Game, but for any series with 24min long ~300 lines episodes, their release time, minus turnover overheads and real life occurrences, i.e. the whole of the time spent working on it would also be around 12 hours.

Take that however you will, I'm simply trying to debunk the notion that fast release automatically implies corner cutting, low quality, etc.

[Guardian Enzo]

I get somewhat irked off when my subs (Sub Smith) are written-off as speed-subs, so allow me to make a case. Zd and I work 12 hours straight each Sunday to produce the releases. I hypothesize, whichever group you follow, and not just for Cross Game, but for any series with 24min long ~300 lines episodes, their release time, minus turnover overheads and real life occurrences, i.e. the whole of the time spent working on it would also be around 12 hours.

Take that however you will, I'm simply trying to debunk the notion that fast release automatically implies corner cutting, low quality, etc.

FTR:

I would go insane if I didn't have my Kou/Aoba fix on Sunday night - I'm grateful to you guys for the work you do and I find the translations just fine for my tastes. You're doing a great thing by getting an under-appreciated gem out to the public in rapid fashion and I know the fans appreciate it.

[HitagiIsHot]

I'm going to have to check out ANUBU too, never heard of them. I've been watching SubSmith the whole time. SubSmith subs are pretty good. It got me to love the show haha. Not only do they have quality subs, but they get their subs out faster than any other group. BTW what a nice sig pic you have Free.

[Free]

There are more. Source: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=600175891

[BetoJR]

FTR:

I would go insane if I didn't have my Kou/Aoba fix on Sunday night - I'm grateful to you guys for the work you do and I find the translations just fine for my tastes. You're doing a great thing by getting an under-appreciated gem out to the public in rapid fashion and I know the fans appreciate it.
THIS.

Like I said before, I'm one of those who absolutely cannot wait, and I'm fine as can be with Subsmith's offerings.

[Theowne]

Subsmith is fine for me, having a decent grasp of Japanese and just needing vocabulary "fill-ins". Thanks for all your hard work Free.

Have to give dues to Central Anime as well. Keeping it old-school.

[Sackett]

I get somewhat irked off when my subs (Sub Smith) are written-off as speed-subs, so allow me to make a case. Zd and I work 12 hours straight each Sunday to produce the releases. I hypothesize, whichever group you follow, and not just for Cross Game, but for any series with 24min long ~300 lines episodes, their release time, minus turnover overheads and real life occurrences, i.e. the whole of the time spent working on it would also be around 12 hours.

Take that however you will, I'm simply trying to debunk the notion that fast release automatically implies corner cutting, low quality, etc.

Oh I didn't mean to belittle your efforts. You are both fast and well done. In fact I'd say your subs are usually good enough that I won't bother to download any other sub until months later.

We try not to lose the meaning of what was said. The nuances<sp> of what was said are sometimes lost if you try to Westernize it.

True, which is the main reason I picked Central as my "final copy" sub. I tend to prefer more literal translations.

However, occasionally I think to myself things like: "It's a Grand Slam!" would better communicate the feeling then "It's a bases loaded homerun!". They are both the same thing, but the first is the more common phrase in American baseball.

[golthin]

I get somewhat irked off when my subs (Sub Smith) are written-off as speed-subs, so allow me to make a case. Zd and I work 12 hours straight each Sunday to produce the releases. I hypothesize, whichever group you follow, and not just for Cross Game, but for any series with 24min long ~300 lines episodes, their release time, minus turnover overheads and real life occurrences, i.e. the whole of the time spent working on it would also be around 12 hours.

Take that however you will, I'm simply trying to debunk the notion that fast release automatically implies corner cutting, low quality, etc.

you work is appreciated. I myself don't download any subs for crossgame because the Japanese used is pretty simple. What I find interesting is that people that NEED the subs are the one that complain about accuracy. If you need subs, you shouldn't complain about accuracy or whatever.

[Sackett]

you work is appreciated. I myself don't download any subs for crossgame because the Japanese used is pretty simple. What I find interesting is that people that NEED the subs are the one that complain about accuracy. If you need subs, you shouldn't complain about accuracy or whatever.

??? It makes perfect sense to me.

If you NEED subs then you obviously are going to complain about accuracy because inaccurate subs give you a false impression as to the story.

If you don't need subs, then inaccurate subs don't harm you.

[xKeen]

you work is appreciated. I myself don't download any subs for crossgame because the Japanese used is pretty simple. What I find interesting is that people that NEED the subs are the one that complain about accuracy. If you need subs, you shouldn't complain about accuracy or whatever.

Won't mention names,but I downloaded 2 sub groups.One group translated "I'll get 10 runs" and another "Keep them under 10 runs" .It made me really confused,I said this in my earlier post...

[Proto]

you work is appreciated. I myself don't download any subs for crossgame because the Japanese used is pretty simple. What I find interesting is that people that NEED the subs are the one that complain about accuracy. If you need subs, you shouldn't complain about accuracy or whatever.

hmm,... not really. I don' need the subs myself, and when I watch for the first time I generally just watch the RAWS and later delete. However I do download the subs as well since I'm planning to give this series to my siblings, and so when I rewatch I normally use the subs since I want them to have the best possible experience when watching this, so that's when I see for myself how well they fare.

[eris_sama]

Caught up to ep 32 of this series and even though it's good and I like it, the chars are pretty typical with the usual assortment of chars - lazy guy with potential (Kou), idiot guy (Senda), cool guy (Azuma), tough guy (catcher), hot headed girl (Aoba), etc. But I wish Ookiku Furikabutte (which has more original/interesting chars, but very baseball intensive) had more school/regular life in it like this series.

[golthin]

Caught up to ep 32 of this series and even though it's good and I like it, the chars are pretty typical with the usual assortment of chars - lazy guy with potential (Kou), idiot guy (Senda), cool guy (Azuma), tough guy (catcher), hot headed girl (Aoba), etc.

You just accounted for Adachi's basic set up. He doesn't deviate much from that, with the exeption of the main plot. Still, Adachi can sometime throw us a curve ball, like he did in H2.

[HitagiIsHot]

Thanks Free for the link to the sigs pictures I may incorporate these to future wallpapers.

[einreb23]

Am I the only one who misses the Nomo baseball song?

[Guardian Enzo]

Am I the only one who misses the Nomo baseball song?

Nope - it still haunts me, to this day.

[dasrune]

sooo how many tried drawing nomo during the song?

[poko-kun]

You have nice blog, HitagiIsHot. I enjoy reading it. ^^

[xKeen]

Halfway through this,episode 18.I like the baseball matches in this show,the suspense :D Azuma has a weird sense of humor that I find,quite funny...especially about the baseball manager trying to pitch.I like how they get better in matches too.

[HitagiIsHot]

You have nice blog, HitagiIsHot. I enjoy reading it. ^^

Thanks for the kind words poko-kun!

Nope - it still haunts me, to this day.

Ahahaha, wonder what they will have next? They change the way they present their "prizes" every so often.

[MeoTwister5]

I imagine we'll have an Akane segment teaching us how to sketch.:eyespin::eyespin::eyespin:

[Free]

As always: http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/crossgame/091122_9lquiz/index.html
Hard fought fruits always taste better~

Guess Tsukishima's boyfriend. Which Tsukishima you ask? Hahaha~

[The Rumblefish]

I can't believe how innocent they are (or how little they care). You can get the wallpaper simply by checking which URL each answer leads to.

I put today's wallpaper here (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7650/n1122tt1280.jpg) in case people arrive too late or don't speak Japanese.

[Free]

Or simply change the URL from index.html to seikai.html. :P It's just a tiny bit of internet data meant to encourage viewer participation, and targeted at pre-teen kids, what can you expect? :P

[PeterI]

I can't believe how innocent they are (or how little they care). You can get the wallpaper simply by checking which URL each answer leads to.

I put today's wallpaper here (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7650/n1122tt1280.jpg) in case people arrive too late or don't speak Japanese.

They do give out the answer at the end of the show. I don't think it is intended to be a challenge. I wonder if they check IP addresses when compiling the statistics for age and sex of people who visit the site after watching the show. It would be neat if they noticed that there were people from outside Japan who are well above the target age.

[poko-kun]

Awwww
today's gift is so cuteeeeeeeee >3<

[Theowne]

They do give out the answer at the end of the show. I don't think it is intended to be a challenge. I wonder if they check IP addresses when compiling the statistics for age and sex of people who visit the site after watching the show. It would be neat if they noticed that there were people from outside Japan who are well above the target age.

How would they get age or sex information from an IP address?

[poko-kun]

#34

...

Kou x Aoba or Kou x Akane?
and one certain guy we like finally made his move.
Can't wait to see episode 35.
It's Valentine's day!!! 　
「今のところ　オレがつき合ってもいいと思うのは おまえくらいだからな。」

[leongsh]

How would they get age or sex information from an IP address?

Because the webpage requires you to select gender and input age before you are directed to the download/image page.

[Ansalem]

「今のところ　オレがつき合ってもいいと思うのは おまえくらいだからな。」

Holy crap.

[Proto]

Interesting turn isn't it. :ṕ

[HitagiIsHot]

I put today's wallpaper here (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7650/n1122tt1280.jpg) in case people arrive too late or don't speak Japanese.

Thanks! I wait for the subs. Not sure if everyone else knew about it, but all the "gifts" are in subsmith's site (http://s860.photobucket.com/albums/ab167/SubSmith/up/). Convenient!

Awwww
today's gift is so cuteeeeeeeee >3<

Indeed.

[Proto]

I couldn't watch this episode till now since I had to go to work on Sunday :S

Anyway, from this manga watcher to this anime original episode and the anime production team:

*hats off*

The sub is out BTW.

[CWW]

Oh my God I couldn't bring myself to watch past the quiz. My hopes are dashed.

[ZGMF-X10A]

pretty nice episode this week. It seems like Akane is drawing something for a contest or something. She mention that too bad Kou can't see it because she already submit it. I'm guessing that the drawing might be a picture of Aoba/Kou pitching on the mount, because what else would Akane ask a book from Kou from. Unless it's a picture of Wakaba but Akane never really saw/ask anything about Wakaba. A lot of people don't remember that Menda's name, I mean Senda. There is a lot of hint that Aoba might be considering joining the female baseball team.

Next episode Feb 14. Looks like Azuma finally tells Aoba that she's the only person he'll consider going out with. I'm guessing he received a lot of chocolate, and Aoba asked something about would you consider going out with any of them, or something along those lines.

[MushroomSamba]

Azuma x Aoba? I dunno...an odd match if you ask me.

[poko-kun]

Azuma x Aoba? I dunno...an odd match if you ask me.

Hmm... They could be another good match. Since Aoba and Kou are so much alike (in many ways).
You can imagine that. :p

[Heibi]

Azuma x Aoba? I dunno...an odd match if you ask me.

Hehe.

Azuma and Aoba sittin' in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g.

Just kidding, but the episode made me think Azuma has an interest. He at least seems to be encouraging her to go for the "gold".(All-Japan Girls Team)

[golthin]

Just kidding, but the episode made me think Azuma has an interest. He at least seems to be encouraging her to go for the "gold".(All-Japan Girls Team)

VERY important about what and who is important to her.

[karasuma]

Kou x Akane? Kou x Aoba? Azuma x Aoba?

Geez.. this is hard.

[Willen]

At this point, that line from Azuma could be spoken to anyone. I distrust the previews, they can be misleading. ;)

Although an Azuma x Aoba pairing would be an interesting match. :heh:

[The Rumblefish]

Excellent original episode (well, 80% of it was original at least). Unlike the previous filler episodes which took very little risk and did not add much to the main plot, this storyboard had much more guts and developed a lot of threads in its own way. Also a very good introduction to upcoming topics, as well as some open doors for different pathes than in the manga.

Another song from Kobukuro can be heard when the Clover dad is watching TV, I wonder if it foreshadows a new OP. Unfortunately it wasn't Sayonara Hero. Still no news about an album release of the original soundtrack?

I can't wait for next week!

[ZGMF-X10A]

At this point, that line from Azuma could be spoken to anyone. I distrust the previews, they can be misleading. ;)

Although an Azuma x Aoba pairing would be an interesting match. :heh:

well who else would he be talking to? some new character that just pops up in the next episode? It would be jokes if he said that to Ichiyo infront of his brother. Azuma is not the type of character that would say jokes so the only person that would interest him would be Aoba because she's the only girl that would give him trouble with a fast ball (from ep 34).

[MeoTwister5]

Wait what huh Momiji has a who what?:heh::uhoh:

Honestly, the very first scene with Akane outside their shop as her parents pile deliveries on her... that laugh and smile of Kou's is something I definitely haven't seen from him in a long while. A very long while....:cool:

Maybe I shouldn't be surprised about Momiji because... actually I never noticed it before but she's gotten a LOT taller. I noticed it when she was sitting on the floow watching TV. The difference is actually THAT noticable.:heh:

I actually really love episodes like this. Everyone goes on their "Me" time rather than always being together and it gives a lot of insight on how they operate on their own without everyone else around them. One of the reasons why I found K-On's first bonus episode to be the best in the series full of disappointments.

Also Senda is finally genuinely funny for once, trying to find the guys and having people NOT remember him. Likewise Azuma's actually SMILING! This is an episode full of pleasant surprises.:eyespin:

Poor Aoba, all alone to do batting practice while her sisters go on dates and father goes to get drunk? Probably not as bad as the "bachelors" getting owned up by Momiji's "candidate boyfriend".:p

I actually felt pretty bad for Senda but rather touched with the entire thing. He's the quintissential buttmonkey of the show but he's still their friend and teammate. If he didn't always had to go out of his way to look cool and ended up looking like an idiot he'd realize people like him for just being himself.

2 of the best scenes of the episode, one of them for once does not involve Kou:

"There's no other girl out there that can give me trouble with fastballs..."

"I'd aim for a Koshien of my own."

Goddammit Azuma I'm a stalwart KouxAoba shipper here, don't make me ship for you too! Azuma's speech really seems to have hit home on Aoba, who obviously still wishes to fulfill Wakaba's dream in one way or another, even if it's sitting at the bleachers at Koshien. Aoba's split-second look of frustration as she bats again makes her confusion all the more obvious.

Most people will call it cliche but... it starts snowing the moment Azuma and Aoba are together, as well as Kou and Akane. Could this mean... despite the fact that it was well played... I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I'm still an ardent KouxAoba man, and it would pain me to not see them together. The preview for the Valentine's Day episode seems to point to a more specific direction but... gah... X_X

[Guardian Enzo]

Sorry, but I'm going to need to veto Aoba x Azuma. Denied.

[satomianzaki]

for me, i'll only stick with a kou x aoba pairing...

i really am eager to see the development of their relationship...scenes with those two interacting with each other really put a smile on my face...maybe it's because they always argue but deep inside...well...hahaha...

i really loved the manga and now that i have seen the animation, it makes me really want to watch more episodes...the anime is really good...

:)

[Proto]

Despite everything, this seems to be transforming into a pentagon with 3 boys and 2 girls, so unfortunately someone is bound to end up alone. D:

That or the preview is playing tricks on us. Dundundun.

[zitch]

I am one of many Kou x Aoba match-up fans here (along with an Akaishi x Akane development), but I'm finding myself warming up to a Kou x Akane and Azuma x Aoba matchup here, at least for the short term.

If anything, I think this may also jump start a Kou x Aoba match longer down the road, too.

That said, what Azuma says in the preview might very well be a misdirection. Not the first time a preview in this series misleads viewers... ;)

UPDATE: You know, that's what makes this series so great and making me want to see more, even after episodes without cliffhangers: I just can't predict what will happen next and I want to know. It's why I refuse to read the manga until the anime series is over!

[BetoJR]

Sorry, but I'm going to need to veto Aoba x Azuma. Denied.
I agree with the above statement.

[poko-kun]

Even I love Kou and Aoba so much, but... I love Azuma too.
That's hard to choose. ;____;

[Nosauz]

blargh nvm, still somewhat subpar episode, not enough baseball

but i do have to say they need to bring back the second ed, this one is alright but the second one is sooo much better.

[CWW]

(along with an Akaishi x Akane development)
Veto'd so hard.

I don't really mind who Kou ends up with. Aoba, Akane, Momiji, it's all good.

[Nosauz]

Veto'd so hard.

I don't really mind who Kou ends up with. Aoba, Akane, Momiji, it's all good.

X_X, no akane would be such a cop out, bascially a slap to all the development for aoba. I mean even though Azuma likes aoba, he knows and pretty much everybody around those 2 know what the deal is. I do hope aikaishi can end up happy considering Adachi tends to forget that his "ugly" characters do fall in love too.

[CWW]

Clearly the answer is polygamy.

[The Rumblefish]

I might be old-fashioned but I am still rather perplexed when people mention pairing a teenage boy on his way to enter college with a child in sixth grade, especially in a manga which is rather realistic and conservative about such topics.

[HitagiIsHot]

Sometimes those episode previews can be misleading. Ex. Red String of Fate for Episode 33 turned out to be for Kou-Aoba instead of Kou-Akane :p

Overall, I really enjoyed this slice of life type of episode, I give it a 3 out of 4 stars (Excellent). I wrote a short review here (http://wp.me/pGYSm-7J) with a multiple choice poll for your favorite couples of the series, since this episode introduced some possible pairings in the future. Feel free to vote on it if you feel strongly about a certain couple.

[MushroomSamba]

Yeah, I probably should've qualified why I thought it was an odd pairing. Azuma just seems way too mature and basically sees the world in a whole nother light. It might work with Akane (as random as that pairing would be), but I just don't see it with Aoba.

Besides, I think Azuma might sense something brewing between Kou and Aoba anyway, given his "knowing" comments. But then again, I've been wrong on practically everything else in the show, so why not add another notch to the belt? :p

blargh nvm, still somewhat subpar episode, not enough baseball

Yeah, the show definitely feels a bit lacking without that baseball element there. The final stretch is almost upon us, so that'll probably change real soon.

[Nosauz]

isn't it obvious? aoba loves kitamura, not only that but her sister knew too. Im thinking that she loved wakaba a lot and when she died those feelings just transfered to the thing wakaba loved the most. Still her character really does suffer, as Azuma has stated before

[Guardian Enzo]

Heh - Momiji has a boyfriend before Aoba does. Wait - Momiji has a what now?

That was a very good episode, but unsettling. I enjoyed the guy moment between Kou and Azuma in the beginning, Senda's odyssey, and especially Azuma's speech to Aoba. But that was also the unsettling part. In a way, I can see an Azuma-Aoba possibility being the instigator to finally force Kou to confront his feelings - just as the Kou-Akane potential could for Aoba. For all his bluster Mountain Boy is no threat, and Kou knows it. But Azuma, now - that's a threat. He's formidable. But Kou can't really have any resentment unless he has something to be resentful about - which he doesn't, if he has no feelings for Aoba. This could certainly drive a major wedge between he and Azuma, too. And as for Akane as a threat and a catalyst for Aoba's introspection, well - that's obvious.

I'll say this as a non-manga reader, to those who doubt the notion of an Azuma/Aoba pairing. This ep made me watch the ED in a whole new light. Watch it carefully - pay special attention to the sequence of "snapshots", especially who each one is staring at. It's a guess, but I think there may be a roadmap of the second half of the series in there.

[HitagiIsHot]

Besides, I think Azuma might sense something brewing between Kou and Aoba anyway, given his "knowing" comments. But then again, I've been wrong on practically everything else in the show, so why not add another notch to the belt? :p


Azuma is another hard to read character as well. He could just very well be being a good friend and all by giving Aoba encouraging words. Then again it started snowing when those two were together, which may or may not make a difference, so I'm not really sure either.

[MushroomSamba]

This could certainly drive a major wedge between he and Azuma, too.

Eh, I don't see Azuma getting involved with such petty matters as angst.

And as for Akane as a threat and a catalyst for Aoba's introspection, well - that's obvious.

I'm actually quite surprised with how the Aoba-Kou-Akane triangle is playing out atm. I was expecting the ol' tropes of the genre, but Aoba is actually being quite playful and okay about the whole thing.

[Guardian Enzo]

And we all know Aoba's public face always reflects her internal feelings... ;)

[HitagiIsHot]

I'll say this as a non-manga reader, to those who doubt the notion of an Azuma/Aoba pairing. This ep made me watch the ED in a whole new light. Watch it carefully - pay special attention to the sequence of "snapshots", especially who each one is staring at. It's a guess, but I think there may be a roadmap of the second half of the series in there.

I just noticed that this episode too. Putting the pairings on the ED is subtle. However if we go by that, at the end there is only one... :D

[Guardian Enzo]

Your mouth to Adachi's ear!

[MushroomSamba]

And we all know Aoba's public face always reflects her internal feelings... ;)

When it doesn't, we're usually shown the character's true feeling. However, we've been given no indication of it being otherwise at the moment.

[Nosauz]

I'm sorry but anything but a aobaxkou ending would be punishment to those characters. I'm pretty sure if wakaba was alive even if kou is still as devoted, there would be something eating at him to look at aoba differently. I mean the episode where aoba reports to kitamura about akane and what school she goes too, her telling him it's his duty to beat azuma... kitamura telling her how awesome that pitcher was

[CWW]

Wait wait wait wait wait. Wait. Aoba hasn't showed any affection towards Kou in the past. Not to anyone with the lone exception of Wakaba. What makes people think this is going to change in the foreseeable future? Her goal is clear. To help Seishu get into Koshien.

Aoba isn't in the phase of her life to start thinking about dating. Case in point: She wasn't the slightest bit agitated when Kou helped Akane out. Sure, she teased him a bit, which is normal considering their feud. There wasn't any malicious intent behind it.

I'm not against the main pairing or anything. Just pointing out that anyone who expects that future pairings will surface in the next few weeks could be sorely disappointed.

[Nosauz]

Aoba isn't in the phase of her life to start thinking about dating. Case in point: She wasn't the slightest bit agitated when Kou helped Akane out. Sure, she teased him a bit, which is normal considering their feud. There wasn't any malicious intent behind it.


Wait what? Aoba clearly doesn't mind having akane there, but still there is heavy amounts to Kou x Aoba hints from other characters and from the two who seem to be oblivious at the current moment. Take Yuuhei's damn advice.

[CWW]

So other people encouraging them to get it on means they should? Methinks they can think for themselves.

Anyone who thinks it's going to be any pairing but Kou and Aoba is delusional, but I just don't see it happening in the course of an episode or two.

[Nosauz]

well i was implying that after they reach that "dream" that something would unfold, not now, they still have an entire year lol

[HitagiIsHot]

Wait wait wait wait wait. Wait. Aoba hasn't showed any affection towards Kou in the past. Not to anyone with the lone exception of Wakaba. What makes people think this is going to change in the foreseeable future?

A reason why Kou and Aoba is such a popular pairing is in episode 33, with the red string of fate deal and the whole thing at the library. Not to mention how similar the two are! Although the Akane and Kou scene in 34: it also started to snow at that time, I think. And that just made me want to see more Akane development.

[Guardian Enzo]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that Aoba was unbothered by seeing Kou spending time with Akane. That smile looked like it was held on her face with carpet tacks. And as for the sarcasm, here's a not too cutting observation - Aoba's sarcasm is a front. It's overcompensation. A classic defense mechanism so that she can avoid revealing any emotion except anger, the only one she'll display openly.

[Nosauz]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that Aoba was unbothered by seeing Kou spending time with Akane. That smile looked like it was held on her face with carpet tacks. And as for the sarcasm, here's a not too cutting observation - Aoba's sarcasm is a front. It's overcompensation. A classic defense mechanism so that she can avoid revealing any emotion except anger, the only one she'll display openly.

well also, I'm pretty sure that she's the opposite of wakaba, she hides her emotions, except to her sister, and when her sister says she can't steal kou, oh many that ripped a hole in my heart just thinking if wakaba hadn't died. Aoba would probably be really unhappy, and I would think that kou would be too, because kou does idolize aoba, its quite obvious.

[poko-kun]

I seem to recall that Aoba is a classic-tsundere type. :p

[Proto]

That's just a fan tag, not really a character definition. :p

[HitagiIsHot]

when her sister says she can't steal kou, oh many that ripped a hole in my heart just thinking if wakaba hadn't died. Aoba would probably be really unhappy, and I would think that kou would be too, because kou does idolize aoba, its quite obvious.

Yep when she said that I was like "uh-oh, now that Wakaba's gone, what if Kou is eventually able to pitch that 160km/hr (100mph) fast ball?" Aoba will have some internal conflict between what her sis said and what her feelings are (if she doesn't have some already).

[Willen]

Heh - Momiji has a boyfriend before Aoba does. Wait - Momiji has a what now?

Slow down, he's a "candidate". ;)

[golthin]

Slow down, he's a "candidate". ;)

Come on! When a girl say "candidate" , you know the poor guy is doomed.

[Willen]

All kidding aside, I like the fact that Momiji is going out with a boy, even if it's a trip to the shrine on New Year's. It shows she's growing up. Next stop, middle school.

[MeoTwister5]

I should probably say that the scene where Aoba sort of realizes she's alone at home was priceless.:eyespin:

[poko-kun]

I should make a list about the hints or subtles about KouxAoba pairing I found in anime from ep. 1-34.


Kou towards Aoba

1. "the truth is...." (when Menda... I mean Senda found Aoba was changing into Kou's T-shirt, and at the swimming pool)
He's sure joking about it, but have you seen him doing something like that with other girls? Not once but twice.

2. "You are so warm, Waka-chan"
He knew that Aoba was hugging him, and he didn't move?

3. "The way you eat ramen is strange"
Kou pretended that he doesn't care about Aoba's date, but caught by Azuma.

4. "Is she a fired-tofu you mentioned?" asked by Azuma
and Kou was "eh?". He didn't deny it.

5. He's the first one who noticed that Aoba got hurt. (Likewise... Aoba did the same way)

6. "Azumaaa"
"I'm going"
"Azumaaaaa"
"You are noisy, I'm going"
"AZUMAAAAAAAA"
"Shut up!"
Kou seemed to be annoyed after Mizuki took Aoba home. (Remember when Aoba pitched to Azuma till she fell down, it's Kou who took her home)

7. He threw away Mizuki and Aoba's "Umbrella of love" sign. ^^ that's a cute scene.

7. "You wana pitch?"
That's a tears jerker scene I love the most T__T. It shows how much he cares about her.

8. When Aoba came practice late, he was so worried about her.



still a lot, i'll add more later.

[CWW]

Unfortunately, Aoba doesn't reciprocate. Love is a two-way street after all. If she has feelings for him then she's hiding it really, really, really well.

[Guardian Enzo]

Unfortunately, Aoba doesn't reciprocate. Love is a two-way street after all. If she has feelings for him then she's hiding it really, really, really well.

Bingo! You just won the Cross Game quiz.

[Nosauz]

Unfortunately, Aoba doesn't reciprocate. Love is a two-way street after all. If she has feelings for him then she's hiding it really, really, really well.

hmmm you must have not seen the akane scouting scene. It's a little more obvious in the manga, but still that scene is probably one of the most touching in the anime. Plus there is also the time when Kou eats all of the napolitan that she cooks for him. There are SOOOOOO MANY of these scenes.

[Proto]

For me, the OP has always been sort of a strong hint. It's just that I have never decided whether its from Koh to Aoba or the other way around (probably the later).

[/cheesy]

[Nosauz]

For me, the OP has always been sort of a strong hint. It's just that I have never decided whether its from Koh to Aoba or the other way around (probably the later).

[/cheesy]

HA HA HA HA HA....

no really rofl. But yes that was cheesy! :D It's thick but delicious

[CWW]

Let's just say if I were Kou I wouldn't have picked up the hint that Aoba might fancy me. :P

[Nosauz]

Let's just say if I were Kou I wouldn't have picked up the hint that Aoba might fancy me. :P

could you have possibly not read another adachi work? Because if you haven't I can understand why some of these hints are like whoosh. Don't get me wrong it's just the style adachi rights in. I don't even want to but just look at miyuki or hell even touch.

[Guardian Enzo]

Once again, I feel the need to repeat my stand on Aoba x Azuma:

No.

There, now I feel better. Adachi, don't let me down.

[BetoJR]

Don't worry, you're not alone, my mirror counterpart.

[poko-kun]

Unfortunately, Aoba doesn't reciprocate. Love is a two-way street after all. If she has feelings for him then she's hiding it really, really, really well.

I'll list the hints I found about Aoba towards Kou tomorrow.
It's 2 am. now :D

Let's try before I go to bed

1. Aoba blushed because Kou's face was too close.

2. When Momiji heard about Aoba's date....she wondered who the (unlucky?) guy was , so head to Kou's house first. why? :p

3. She has a picture of Kou and Waka in her room. (she could have put only Waka pic in the room if she wants ,right?)

4. Both of them didn't try to defend the rumor Akaishi made up.

5. Aoba was pleased when Kou was worrying about her absent.

6. One wish of Waka written on the Tanabata bamboo tag "I wish Kou and Aoba will get along" I'm sure she read it, and doesn't want to throw away.

more to go, but I'm sleepy now.

[Nosauz]

Sometimes I do hate how adachi is... god damn rough and touch

[CWW]

I thought it was a picture of Wakaba and herself. Seriously, young Aoba and Kou are hard to distinguish.

[Pellissier]

I get the impression that the introduction of Akane and Azuma joining the polygon are somewhat distorting the perception of things. Never forget that from episode 2 to 29 the whole anime has been busy in the building of the Kou/Aoba relationship. That's why such option can't be discarded easily, or even better, it's the only plausible true ending, imho.
Obviously though the two of them weren't moving too much, hence I think that with Akane a catalyst has been thrown. A male counterpart was needed, and since Mizuki has failed in this department, a much more believable one was put in the scene, Azuma. In my opinion, another catalyst.

As for signs of affection of Aoba towards Kou... I didn't even check the episodes, just writing the first that come to mind:

- I mentioned this sometime ago, however in one of the first episodes Aoba covers Kou's face with a cloth in the Waka & Kou picture in her room because she can't stand his view. In later episodes we see the cloth is gone.

- Aoba goes to the training camp to bring back Kou his bag. Do you think she would have gone all the way for anyone else?

- In the same episode, Aoba sees Kou training (running) and secretly leaves him a towel along with a bottle of juice on the stairway.

- When Kou had that "intestinal" problem (milk 3-4 days past expired date) Aoba stayed at the window all the time waiting for his arrival, and smiled when he did, whispering "girigiri safe" (barely safe).

- The Napolitan she cooked for Kou, "doing her best for him" (Ichiyo's words, supported by facts since the Napolitan was not only edible but apparently good too).

- When Aoba goes to the date with Mizuki, she's gloomy all the time. When they come back they met Kou, she fights with him a little bit in the usual way, and feels revived after that, to the point that even Mizuki says "perhaps I should've joined the baseball club too".

- When Kou is called for an interview, Aoba stops him because his hairs are not in order, and tells him to fix them. Also she gives him a clean shirt since the one he's wearing is messy.

- "IKE KOU!" during the match vs. Ryuou. No one could get near her during those moments.

- After Ryuou, on the bus, her smile.

- The scouting Akane sequence, and then reporting everything to Kou.

- The "thank you" scene. She was definitely by hit Kou's care for her.

[Ansalem]

I'd have to agree with the idea that Aoba x Kou has been built throughout the show. I feel like the addition of these new love interests is going to end up creating a scenario that actually forces them to express their feelings that we know are there from all of the subtle hints throughout the series from both Aoba and Kou.

[Proto]

Still, the author could choose to develop their relationship in the lines of very good lifetime friends without necessarily having to pair them up. He's even giving us viable alternatives. And Adachi is unconventional enough in that respect for us to say that Akane and Azuma are mere fodders. :p

p.s. And with this post, I become the #1 poster in this thread. Take that, Guardian Enzo (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2610082&postcount=785). :p

[Nosauz]

I'm sorry but it would be nearly be impossible for aoba to confess that she loves kou, without a catalyst, azuma/akane, because she knows just like akaishi, when kou is being shidosans slave what is in kou's heart.

[HitagiIsHot]

Still, the author could choose to develop their relationship in the lines of very good lifetime friends without necessarily having to pair them up. He's even giving us viable alternatives. And Adachi is unconventional enough in that respect for us to say that Akane and Azuma are mere fodders. :p

p.s. And with this post, I become the #1 poster in this thread. Take that, Guardian Enzo (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2610082&postcount=785). :p

Agreed. Not to mention Akane and Azuma are developed quite well for side characters. Azuma is a truly a major player on their road to Koshein. In addition to looking like Wakaba, Akane seems like a saint to everyone around her, how can anyone not like her character? That said, both characters are still pretty mysterious (about who they like) at this point in the anime (well more Akane and less Azuma).

Also props to Poko and Pellisier, nice evidence for Aoba x Kou.

[Pellissier]

I feel like the addition of these new love interests is going to end up creating a scenario that actually forces them to express their feelings
I'm sorry but it would be nearly be impossible for aoba to confess that she loves kou, without a catalyst, azuma/akane
No doubts about that.

It is the basic idea. Kou and Aoba went through a lot, a whole lot of happenings and development. But they were come to a point where, for a reason or another (Wakaba's memories, the difficult of moving from their previous positions, the inability to realize their new true feelings), they were stalling.
I think they couldn't go much further than they already had, if new elements didn't pop out. You can say they were in dire need of a spur, and what's better of a potential love interest for both parts? Hence Akane and Azuma, their "incentives".

[Nosauz]

I mean it's obvious, that aoba loves wakaba a lot, so anything that would "disrupt" wakaba's happiness must be just eating her up, especially after they talk about what type of guy aoba likes, because wakaba just turns and says that she can't have him. All things just compound to drive them further and further apart. Their intense love for some one dead seperates them from the world of the living, and they continue to avoid the truth. I think kou avoids it because it might make it seem that he's forgetting wakaba. The story is a painful one even with all these "happy" moments compared to adachi's other works, which is why the azumaxaoba thing just drives me nuts.

[Pellissier]

Still, the author could choose to develop their relationship in the lines of very good lifetime friends without necessarily having to pair them up. He's even giving us viable alternatives. And Adachi is unconventional enough in that respect for us to say that Akane and Azuma are mere fodders. :p
It might be plausible but the thing is, the melody so far hasn't played to the to notes of a simple friendship. If so, why mentioning several times that Aoba will only fall for someone who throws at 160 Km/h ? Why all the emphasis on the Wakaba "you can't take him from me!" ? Why the uneasiness shown by Kou when Mizuki appeared, and the same masked uneasiness now shown by Aoba in regards of Akane? Why all the foreshadowing coming from Ichiyo's, Momiji's and Azuma's words (on the matter that they're alike) ?

I could go ahead, but I think that's enough. The friendship path might have been followed if in a past point throughout their reconciliation, Kou would have shown an even slight interest in a different girl, and especially Aoba an interest in a different boy. But all of this didn't happen. The very fact that instead it's all happening now, all of a sudden, goes even to strengthen the concept of "catalysts".

[Guardian Enzo]

p.s. And with this post, I become the #1 poster in this thread. Take that, Guardian Enzo (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2610082&postcount=785). :p

Oh, it's on.

[The Rumblefish]

Well, if anything, the light-hearted dispute on this page is the proof Adachi and the anime staff did their job right.

[poko-kun]

Thanks Pellissier for listing more Aoba and Kou hints. (I almost forgot some :p)


about the smile after Ryuou match;
Aoba asked Ichiyo what would Waka be like - why? Why did she want to compare herself to Waka? What's in her mind?

also, when she was bossing about Kou's look before the media interview. Kou said that she was more acting like Waka, and she didn't deny - why?.

It's harder way for Aoba to go.
Kou knows about her 160 kmph condition.
But for Aoba, it's a "he can do that, but you can't have him" phrase.

[Willen]

I should probably say that the scene where Aoba sort of realizes she's alone at home was priceless.:eyespin:

I like how she abuses the fact she can use the batting cages for free. The girl does love baseball.

I just wonder how Azuma got in.

[Guardian Enzo]

I like how she abuses the fact she can use the batting cages for free. The girl does love baseball.

I just wonder how Azuma got in.

I got the sense that Aoba's little "Woo-Hoo!" about all the room to hit (adorable, BTW) was her way of trying to convince herself not to be depressed about being the only one not out with someone. I'm sure she never pays to bat (I'm betting Kou doesn't, either, as much as Papa-san loves him). As for Azuma, I think he probably just shouted out to Aoba once he heard her swinging away in the cages.

[Heibi]

I got the sense that Aoba's little "Woo-Hoo!" about all the room to hit (adorable, BTW) was her way of trying to convince herself not to be depressed about being the only one not out with someone. I'm sure she never pays to bat (I'm betting Kou doesn't, either, as much as Papa-san loves him). As for Azuma, I think he probably just shouted out to Aoba once he heard her swinging away in the cages.

Or Azuma knows a way in, or the door was unlocked to the shop. The shop may also have a buzzer that delivery drivers can ring that alerts people not in the actual store area. Oh, the mystery.;)

[poko-kun]

Just called her, that's it.

[MushroomSamba]

He crawled through Nomo's cat door.

[poko-kun]

Or Aoba forgot to lock the door. :p

BTW, I really like his smile.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pokiz/SubSmith_Cross_Game_-_34_-_New_Y-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/pokiz/SubSmith_Cross_Game_-_34_-_New_Y-2.jpg

[Nosauz]

Na azuma's best smile is when he sees kou pitching, and he's got that helmet covering his eyes and this smirk crosses his face.

[Ansalem]

Na azuma's best smile is when he sees kou pitching, and he's got that helmet covering his eyes and this smirk crosses his face.

I feel like smirking is the only kind of smiling Azuma ever does. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Nosauz]

I feel like smirking is the only kind of smiling Azuma ever does. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

well the smirk just oozes confidence, and that's what makes him super gar, like no joke I've never been this gay over two adachi male characters ever. Hiro, kazuya don't even hold a flame next azuma, and kou. It's ridiculous.

[The Rumblefish]

I just wonder how Azuma got in.

This being Japan, I am- no wait.

This being a Japanese suburb, I am pretty su- one more time.

This being a Japanese suburb stuck in Adachi's we-never-really-left-Shôwa World, I am pretty sure the "lock" consists of a sign on the door saying "sorry we're closed".

[Heibi]

This being Japan, I am- no wait.

This being a Japanese suburb, I am pretty su- one more time.

This being a Japanese suburb stuck in Adachi's we-never-really-left-Shôwa World, I am pretty sure the "lock" consists of a sign on the door saying "sorry we're closed".

Yep, back in that time kids could wander around freely and be assured that they could return safely, even if asking a stranger for help.

[leongsh]

This being Japan, I am- no wait.

This being a Japanese suburb, I am pretty su- one more time.

This being a Japanese suburb stuck in Adachi's we-never-really-left-Shôwa World, I am pretty sure the "lock" consists of a sign on the door saying "sorry we're closed".

Considering how ubiquitous the mobile handphone is today in Japan amongst teenagers, notice that there are no mobile handphones showing up at all in the show. Incredible, huh? But in Adachi's Cross Game world, it's like the mobile handphone does not exist.

[Nosauz]

Considering how ubiquitous the mobile handphone is today in Japan amongst teenagers, notice that there are no mobile handphones showing up at all in the show. Incredible, huh? But in Adachi's Cross Game world, it's like the mobile handphone does not exist.

I for one don't mind, it kind of brings the entire series into a more quiet time, if you had all those things well, the character would be different. Do note that there seem to be no computers which would something at least essential to kitamura sports supplies.

[Theowne]

Considering how ubiquitous the mobile handphone is today in Japan amongst teenagers, notice that there are no mobile handphones showing up at all in the show. Incredible, huh? But in Adachi's Cross Game world, it's like the mobile handphone does not exist.

I love that aspect of it. It just brings back that great setting and atmosphere of classic romance anime like Maison Ikkoku, Touch....even if it isn't completely realistic. I think Adachi is just writing to his own experiences growing up though.

[jpwong]

I actually kind of like seeing "modern" worlds that are still set back a decade or so when many of technologies we take for granted today simply weren't available to the average consumer. It gives it a more nostalgic feel.

You have to consider though, if he's drawing on his own life experiences, all this high technology that we have today wasn't around back then, and it might not make sense to try and merge a world from decades back into the high speed high tech world you see now.

Besides, I think it's great for the plot if people can't just whip out a cellphone anytime they need help with something.

[SuperKnuckles]

I love how Akaichi makes excuses that all baseball club members carry a baseball. That's so sly of Adachi, to try to explain away a total cliche of baseball players conveniently having a baseball in a pinch though a joke. heh

[xKeen]

Oh my god I just can't help posting this.Episode 24 the coach said "If Miya swung like last year ,even a typhoon wouldn't have carried it across the fence".That.Was.Hilarious.And I like the loli cheer

[Willen]

I love how Akaichi makes excuses that all baseball club members carry a baseball. That's so sly of Adachi, to try to explain away a total cliche of baseball players conveniently having a baseball in a pinch though a joke. heh

That's probably why they don't have cellphones -- no room in their pockets. :heh:

[Ansalem]

The former manager/future movie star seems to have a cell phone. Or at least that's what it looks like to me: a cell phone with a video screen and internet. I suppose it could be a really weird looking mini TV. She's the only one that I can think of with one though.
http://i46.tinypic.com/14l6fef.jpg

[Nosauz]

The former manager/future movie star seems to have a cell phone. Or at least that's what it looks like to me: a cell phone with a video screen and internet. I suppose it could be a really weird looking mini TV. She's the only one that I can think of with one though.
http://i46.tinypic.com/14l6fef.jpg

shit your right... maybe thats why she's all stuck up, because all the other characters don't ;p biiii

[Free]

I'm pretty sure that part was added in by the TV folks. :p

[poko-kun]

Mobile phone does exist in Cross game world.
In manga, Kou also has a PSP. ^^

[Ansalem]

Mobile phone does exits in Cross game world.
In manga, Kou also has a PSP. ^^

It's in the show too.

http://i49.tinypic.com/20hlvtx.jpg

[BetoJR]

It's more of a poetic license, really. I don't think some of the story elements would work all that well with all these technological advancements. But they work well in small doses, I think. :D

[Ansalem]

It's more of a poetic license, really. I don't think some of the story elements would work all that well with all these technological advancements. But they work well in small doses, I think. :D

Yeah, I'd agree with that. For example, Senda's little adventure of looking for everyone while they were actually at his house wouldn't work if they just used cell phones. But it's much funnier to have that story the way it was without worrying about it.

[BetoJR]

Exactly. Oh, well, as long as the stories keep coming with this level of quality, I don't mind some anachronisms like that. In fact, I welcome them. :D

[Nosauz]

well wait actually there quite some more, I think this is like an alternate reality where kids don't text each other and rack 200 dollars worth of overage penalties. I don't mind because the setting is a lot more slower and we get to see a lot of depth within in the characters in this type of timesetting.

[DeX-kun]

Took me long enough but I finally got around to watching episode 34. And once again, this episode was another great one.


One thing I must say is that although the Kou x Aoba pairing is more of a question about "when" rather than "if," I don't see much happening from Akane's side. Everyone (not being specific about anyone, just generally speaking of those that believe in a Kou x Akane pairing) seems to be focusing too much on Kou and not paying attention to Akane who seems to be very friendly. I find it interesting that Akane has yet to show a romantic interest in Kou and people seem to be assuming that Kou is interested in her when he's only shown a reaction because of her resemblance to Wakaba.

Azuma has just become one of my favorite wing mans of all time :heh: This guy is the most attentive and helpful wing man in any series. I've seen so many series where a wing man is useless and really adds nothing to the area of character development and Azuma is just that good. He had some great lines this episode and these lines had such an incredible impact, especially on Aoba. Can't wait for the next episode and the preview is just another attempt at trolling :p

I have a feeling that we're going to get some more Kou x Aoba development in the next episode. I wonder, if we're getting a "Valentine's Day" episode, does that mean we're gonna get a "White Day" one as well? :D

[Guardian Enzo]

I love Azuma - great character. But as any Bokura ga Ita fan will tell, you, sometimes the wingman wants to fly the plane...

[Proto]

Not that it is always a bad option though. Specially in Bokura ga Ita, then again that series as any shoujo series is designed from the ground up with the specific purpose of making you suffer..

[Guardian Enzo]

It was a horrible option in Bokura ga Ita. :p Yano was the only correct choice, even if the Manga-ka herself hasn't figured that out...

On topic... I think Azuma is as much a one-man Greek chorus as a wingman. He sort of pops in at random moments to spell out everything the lead characters are too dense to figure out on their own.

[DeX-kun]

I love Azuma - great character. But as any Bokura ga Ita fan will tell, you, sometimes the wingman wants to fly the plane...

:heh:

I like that analogy :D Even so, Kou is just an incredible male lead (close second to Tomoya from Clannad on my list :p) but Azuma is such a great friend. I never thought that he would become such an important character to the main protagonists when we were first introduced to him as Kou's rival. I figured he would become a "good guy" so-to-speak, but never thought he would become such an essential character to this series.

[Nosauz]

Well initally when I first saw Azuma I thought he would be kou's "hideo" but instead the adachi all star rangers will now assemble and cruise to victory in the koshein... the holy ground of high school base. Just thing about as if all the best male leads of adachi's works have been assembled on to one team, and there you have it, Cross Game, addictavely AWESOME. Plus kou's got two wingmen... DUH, akaishi is also the faithful wingman so there is balance.

[The Rumblefish]

Just think about as if all the best male leads of adachi's works have been assembled on to one team, and there you have it

Note that you can do that and even crazier baseball crossover teams in Shônen Sunday x Shônen Magazine Nettô! Dream Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ikwTjsdtKo).

[Proto]

I swear I saw Asuna in there.

[Sackett]

Oh my God I couldn't bring myself to watch past the quiz. My hopes are dashed.

Wait what huh Momiji has a who what?:heh::uhoh:

Heh... my initial reaction was quite funny even to myself. It went something like this: "Momiji? Boyfriend?!? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! She's too young. Big Brother Instinct (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBrotherInstinct) activated.

It's pretty funny when you realize your emotions are being manipulated successfully.

The guy seems nice enough though. (And he knows judo)

Azuma and Aoba huh... I got to admit I like the way Azuma urges Aoba to start chasing her own dream instead of Wakaba's. Not sure if that's the path to Aoba's heart though. I suspect that Kou's efforts to fulfill Wakaba's dream earns more points with Aoba.

While it may make more sense for Aoba to pursue her own dream, I think it's pretty clear she's chosen to sacrifice those things for Wakaba's. Reason has a hard time overcoming emotions like that, and in a way I think it's become Aoba's way of dealing with her grief.

Considering how ubiquitous the mobile handphone is today in Japan amongst teenagers, notice that there are no mobile handphones showing up at all in the show. Incredible, huh? But in Adachi's Cross Game world, it's like the mobile handphone does not exist.

I like it myself. Although there are a few cellphones. H2 even had a joke about it. Adachi is quite aware that he's leaving out cellphones.

Speaking of which I finished the H2 manga recently. Couple things: First all, I hope all those panty shots and swimsuits were not representative of Adachi's normal style. I mean, cheesecake poses on the covers is one thing, but trying to follow the play by play of a baseball game with swimsuits dominating the page... not my idea of a good time.

Second, I am completely confused as to how that ending was considered "unexpected". I got "spoiled" about that element of H2 in this thread, and spent the whole time with that in the back of my head- it actually created a bit of dramatic tension for me, since I couldn't understand how anything other then the what did happen could happen.

So I'm still betting on the Aoba x Kou outcome. Although... Adachi is very good at accurately depicting how people refuse to make things clear in romantic matters- leaving you unsure up until the very end.

[DeX-kun]

I swear I saw Asuna in there.

Asuna from Negima!?, yeah that was her :heh: Conan aka Kudo Shiniichi (Detective Conan) was also there.

So was that a game where you can play with anime characters? I'm confused about that video. I know I saw Kou in there but I'm not quite sure what its about.

[The Rumblefish]

Although they are longtime rivals, Shônen Sunday and Shônen Magazine just went through a huge collaboration project which lasted around one year (I think for the Americans here, this is roughly equivalent to when Marvel did crossovers with DC). Among other things, this led to a few games being produced, such as a fighting game on PSP and a role-playing game on Nintendo DS.

But the most exciting collaboration was this title. It is a baseball game which gathers casts from the numerous baseball series featured in the two magazines. So that means you get Major, Kyôjin no Hoshi, Ore wa Captain and all Adachi baseball manga series since Touch gathered in one cartridge. In order to appeal to a slightly broader audience, they also included a few other shônen heroes from their respective magazines as "special guests". Examples include Ippo, Ranma, Conan and the Negima cast.

Not only that, but since the crossover games were licensed to Konami, the game was developed by Pawapuro productions (the best baseball game studio in Japan).

The result is a great title which allows going through story modes for each series and creating your "dream nine" with your favorite characters from each manga. Want Aoba as your pitcher while Tacchan (Touch), Hideo (H2) and Akaishi (Cross Game) begin your batting order? You can! Unfortunately, each series is only represented by the main protagonist's team + a few popular characters such as love interests and rivals. You can unlock Momiji as a manager, in case you ever wanted to see that.

[edit] Also, one slightly disappointing detail for fans of this topic is that the Cross Game team is only "1st year" Seishû. Therefore, they are not as strong as the other Adachi teams, which is a shame considering that the "3rd year" Seishû might be the best Adachi team ever.

[poko-kun]

yeah,that game... it's too sad to see Kou's status less than Edogawa Conan.

[Theowne]

Finally had the time to watch episode 34.

Love the scene at the end. Azuma is being used a lot better than what I would consider his equivalent in Touch - Harada. It just seems like the "friend" characters are a lot better incorporated into the story than Adachi's early manga.

[DeX-kun]

Finally had the time to watch episode 34.

Love the scene at the end. Azuma is being used a lot better than what I would consider his equivalent in Touch - Harada. It just seems like the "friend" characters are a lot better incorporated into the story than Adachi's early manga.

"With age, comes experience and wisdom"

I believe this has to be applied to Adachi considering what he's done with this series. I'm extremely impressed with how the secondary characters such as Azuma and Akaishi are being handled. I like the fact that Azuma speaks with logic but does so because of his own experiences, which just adds to how great of a character he really is. I think I'll be sad the day this series ends but for now, I'll enjoy every minute of it :)

[Free]

http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/contents/crossgame/091129_vkquiz/index.html
How many chocolates did Kou say he got?

[Nosauz]

he got 4, technically 5 but he's the temporary owner of the fifth.

[xKeen]

Heh you guys were right,this anime is good.I caught up to episode 34 easily.I like how azuma always says that Kou and Aoba are alike,and I want Aoba X Kou but suddenly,Akane appears.Episode 30~32 played around with my feelings...I can't decide which character is my favorite.Azuma is cool,momiji is cute,kou is funny,and aoba is such a ...tsundere?

[HitagiIsHot]

Here (http://enroutejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/cgquiz11291280x1024.jpg) is the wallpaper this week if anyone is interested.

[Proto]

I just wish they realized most people are using widescreen these days. :heh:

In any case, the new episode should give us some discussion for days to come. I'm looking forward to it.

[DeX-kun]

I just wish they realized most people are using widescreen these days. :heh:

In any case, the new episode should give us some discussion for days to come. I'm looking forward to it.

Must you really? :p All this teasing for the next episode just makes me more anxious. I can't wait to see this episode, I'm making some time tomorrow to watch this after work.

[xKeen]

51 Episodes of this?Confirmed? It seems too little now,I need more cross game!

[MeoTwister5]

I wish I could watch episode 35 like right now whinewhinemoanmoan.

[The Rumblefish]

So, who do you think the 5th chocolate box was really for until Akane showed up unexpectedly?

a) Azuma
b) Kô
c) Senda

Sorry, I have no wallpaper to give you if you answer right. That scene melted my brain in the manga and keeps melting my brain in the anime. I was really afraid they would mess it up but the ambiguity is still there. Uh... Except for Senda.

Great episode, even better than I expected. Some very powerful scenes between all the potential pairings in a single episode, which is quite a feat. All the additions to the manga such as new scenes and extra dialogue lines were fantastic and I think the women selection subplot is quite efficient. I am honestly starting to wonder whether the anime is better than the manga, story-wise. The manga's advantage is that Adachi's drawing style conveys emotions and ambiguity incredibly well. However, the anime staff is trying hard as hell to provide similar emotions (ex. Ichiyo's smile in the kitchen and the spoiler-tagged bit above).

Cross Game 36 will be another anime-original episode.

[poko-kun]

51 Episodes of this?Confirmed? It seems too little now,I need more cross game!
Another Cross Game convert found! :D



Watched 35
Nooooooooooo

Why did I feel so hurt after this episode. ;____;

[The Rumblefish]

Because you wanted some of that cake, too.

[poko-kun]

Because you wanted some of that cake, too.
Wrong, It's because ...

Senda didn't get any chocolate, poor boy. :p

[jpwong]

I thought the fighting scene was more comical in the manga with Ko defending with the veggies, but that's just me.

Overall it was a great episode. I love how everyone just suddenly has to go use the batting cage when certain topics start getting discussed :heh:
And as for episode 36, as much as I would like to see the next part of the manga, I have to admit, when episode 22/23 came out, I was hoping (expecting actually) that they would follow up with this. It's actually what I like about the anime. They're taking things that only get a casual mention in the manga and going ahead and weaving it fully into the show giving a bit more balance between the amount of story devoted to Ko and Aoba. And they do so without detracting from the actual story.

[Nosauz]

well the cake bit made it super clear that the choco was for kou and not azuma. Instead in the manga it's really subtle since there is no cut to mizuki making the cake and having them have walked further to start discussing the chocolate. I enjoyed but as an adachi fan, I don't mind subtle because his writing is just that smooth.

[Proto]

Remember that until the sub comes out its common courtesy to speak about the RAW in spoiler tags. :)

[Proto]

This episode was totally like a rollercoaster. There was so much happening inside the character minds with so little happening on a superficial level that this episode felt almost like an emotional oxymoron. Perfectly played.

One of the best episodes in a while if I may say so.

[DeX-kun]

I'm about to rage :heh: It seems like there is plenty of content to be discussed in this episode alone, just as Proto suggested earlier. *sigh* Such is the struggles of the language barrier.

[Proto]

Well, here (http://subsmith.comxa.com/) is a Subsmith trademarked medicine for you. :p

[Theowne]

One of the best episodes of Cross Game yet. Perfect.

EXCEPT for one thing. The mountain climbing cousin seriously adds nothing to my enjoyment of the show.

But otherwise, good stuff. The chocolate was definitely meant for Kou. I really liked the scene with the pitcher pose at the beginning.

[ZGMF-X10A]

pretty decent episode (35). It looks like the contest was a poster competition that Akane enter and she won. I knew that it had something to do with a pitcher. The pitcher was Aoba, maybe this was the prediction of Aoba at kosien, but wasn't Aoab in center field in Waka's dream not the mount. Another thing was like I mentioned in last episode that Azuma actually did confess that the only person he would go out with is Aoba, even though people said I was wrong. Looks like Akane saw how Wakaba looks like and through the pictures that Waka would never get tired of Kou. I have a feeling Akane x Kou is going to happen, as she asked Akashi about Waka and Kou's relation. Even told Akashi looked like her late grandpa... haha.

Preview: The Girl's baseball
Looks like Aoba will be trying out for national team.

[Ansalem]

As others have said already, this was certainly an excellent episode of Cross Game. I particularly loved the scene with the back-and-forth insults between Aoba and Kou in the Tsukishima kitchen. It really made me smile.

Also good to know they didn't troll us in the preview last week and that Azuma was really talking to Aoba. He's so casual about everything. Telling Aoba, and especially in the locker room. I told you guys, I'd only consider going out with Aoba. Huh? I didn't tell you already?

[mpt37]

After seeing a few signatures on this forum featuring this anime I decided to check it out last weekend and ended up marathoning all 34 episodes. Episode 1 was so well done that I was completely hooked and I've enjoyed every single episode so far except for episode 18. Having to wait for episode 35 was agonizing after getting used to watching 1 episode after another and it's going to be another long week waiting for 36.

As Ansalem mentioned, the kitchen scene was my favorite as well. Any scene with Kou and Aoba is always good but this one was particularly entertaining. Not sure what role Aoba's cousin will have now since Azuma makes for a more interesting candidate for her.

[Reckoner]

Azuma's confession is sort of weird. It's almost like if he were "forced" to go out he would pick Aoba, but not that he truly wants to go out with Aoba?

Anyhow, that chocolate was definitely for Kou. Akane x Kou is just a red herring in this story. That won't happen. It would be too weird.

After seeing a few signatures on this forum featuring this anime I decided to check it out last weekend and ended up marathoning all 34 episodes. Episode 1 was so well done that I was completely hooked and I've enjoyed every single episode so far except for episode 18. Having to wait for episode 35 was agonizing after getting used to watching 1 episode after another and it's going to be another long week waiting for 36.


Mission accomplished :heh:.

[Sackett]

"I like this mysterious side of her"

Once again Azuma has the best line of the episode.

Personally I think that originally Aoba intended the chocolate to be to Kou from Wakaba.

That would be so Aoba. (Makes a nice plausible excuse).

But not when Akane shows up. If Aoba had decided to openly give Kou chocolates I don't think Akane's presence would have stopped her- but if Wakaba is involved...

One of the things I am liking is the way everybody around Aoba and Kou are suddenly taking a step back to reconsider the Aoba x Kou pairing, and consider an alternative like Aoba x Azuma and Kou x Akane.

I was surprised at Ichiyo's nonchalance though. I actually felt a little betrayed... at least we can still count on Momiji to support an Aoba x Kou ending.

[Proto]

That said, was I the only one that found Aoba's tone to exude a little irritation when Azuma came and reported that Kou was showing Akane Wakaba's photos? (wow, 5 names in a single sentence. This is getting complicated. :heh:).

[Theowne]

If Aoba had decided to openly give Kou chocolates I don't think Akane's presence would have stopped her

I would contest that for a variety of reasons, and the most obvious is...do you really think Aoba is the type who would let someone see her doing something as affectionate as giving the gift to Kou? I don't think so.

[Proto]

Amen to that. If this was any other series you could have almost pictured Aoba doing the urusai * 3 routine.

[DeX-kun]

That said, was I the only one that found Aoba's tone to exude a little irritation when Azuma came and reported that Kou was showing Akane Wakaba's photos? (wow, 5 names in a single sentence. This is getting complicated. :heh:).

I second this, I felt the same way. Azuma's big eyes aren't just for decoration, the guy can see through anyone and Aoba sure made it pretty obvious when Azuma was telling everyone that Kou and Akane were in his room together.

And another amazing episode. I guess they really are pushing this Kou x Akane thing. Even so, I think it's good to add a little drama to this and I must say, they're doing a hell of a job.

I would contest that for a variety of reasons, and the most obvious is...do you really think Aoba is the type who would let someone see her doing something as affectionate as giving the gift to Kou? I don't think so.

"You're forgetting the most important thing. Aoba isn't the most straightforward person"

Not exactly word for word but you get the point :heh:

[Proto]

Hadn't read this post

After seeing a few signatures on this forum featuring this anime I decided to check it out last weekend and ended up marathoning all 34 episodes. Episode 1 was so well done that I was completely hooked and I've enjoyed every single episode so far except for episode 18. Having to wait for episode 35 was agonizing after getting used to watching 1 episode after another and it's going to be another long week waiting for 36.

As Ansalem mentioned, the kitchen scene was my favorite as well. Any scene with Kou and Aoba is always good but this one was particularly entertaining. Not sure what role Aoba's cousin will have now since Azuma makes for a more interesting candidate for her.

Be sure to tell your friends and expand the Cross Game love! :p

[HitagiIsHot]

After seeing a few signatures on this forum featuring this anime I decided to check it out last weekend and ended up marathoning all 34 episodes. Episode 1 was so well done that I was completely hooked and I've enjoyed every single episode so far except for episode 18. Having to wait for episode 35 was agonizing after getting used to watching 1 episode after another and it's going to be another long week waiting for 36.

Nice! Welcome to the Cross Game craziness! Glad to have you on board haha. Yeah I was in your position not too long ago and I'm still having CG withdrawals.

Anyways, this show seriously just keeps getting better and better. Subs are out, but just in case

One of the best episodes of Cross Game yet. Perfect.
EXCEPT for one thing. The mountain climbing cousin seriously adds nothing to my enjoyment of the show.

Haha yeah... I sort of feel the same way, he bakes a cake for Aoba and she treats him like he's not even there! Kinda makes me feel sad for him. Also for senda, eh such is life.

This episode has so much stuff in it and quite well done. I very much liked the scene where Aoba buys Kou chocolate, but says it's for Azuma, and the Akane scene at the end at Kou's house. Overall this was a great episode, I give it a 3.5/4 stars (excellent). My review with screen caps of the episode here (http://wp.me/pGYSm-8f).

[MeoTwister5]

"You go see her."

Yohoho duh. Kou didn't even have time for a good deflection when the three blurted it out. Holy lol.:eyespin:

Mimicry is the sincerest form of flattery? Classic conversation in the kitchen between them regarding Akane's winning illustration. Of course, who's form is it exactly? Is it Kou's or Aoba's? Or... is it both of them combined? That conversation personally is deeply indicative of their relationship because they clearly and honestly talk about form, and who's imitating who. Humble enough to deflect the fame to someone else but willing to talk about it.:heh:

I'm sure she's trying to be nice but she's really sharp. She's already realized that people's clumsy reactions are still tied to her looking like Wakaba. Once Akaishi tells her that Wakaba was in love with Kou... well we all know Akane just realized something really big. What exactly she now thinks we don't know, but I'm sure she's shifted her perspective on Kou and the Tsukishima sisters. As for Akaishi, perhaps being a lookalike of her grandfather is prophetic?:eyespin:

"Isn't it great she's a girl instead?" - Best Momiji line evar.:D

Another classic line from Azuma, who's inching up ever closer on the Kitamura Kou Scale of GAR. Doesn't need any repeat because we've all seen it on the preview.

It's alright Senda, I never got anything on February 14 during my entire effective lifespan.:cool:

Best scene, or should I say scenes, is everything after the chocolate debacle. Really now, for Azuma? Can't say I'm surprised that Kou still can't pick up on it because it's a possibility that he's never even considered before, but this is for me the very first time that Aoba did something for him on a personal level. We could only surmise what she would have answered before Akane came in, but knowing her it would be another deflection.

But for me, this episode is showing during the discussion in the kitchen about Akane and Kou in the same room that Aoba's deflections are getting really, really worse, or should I say messy? The regular prompt hostility she usually uses for him is losing it's touch, her descriptions getting less rabid, and she's more evasive of the topic at hand. So once Azuma starts poking around because he clearly knows it was never meant for him, Mr. Cousin who's name still escapes me is once again offered as the sacrifice as she goes to bat. Tsun much?:heh:

God the mangaka sure is implying heavily for a Kou x Akane much, at least from Kou's perspective. We still haven't seen what he concretely decides to do about because he's personally been rather indecisive about the entire issue. He's usually straightforward and decisive, something he doesn;t show around Akane, for obvious reasons.

[Willen]

This episode is one of the best. Great character interactions and nice comedic touches. I especially like the bickering between Kou and Aoba about her cooking. And of course, Azuma and his straight talk about Aoba.

Then there's the more serious stuff, like Kou and Aoba about Akane winning the grand prize for the baseball poster contest. Akane and Akaishi's talk about Wakaba. Kou and Momiji's conversation during their game of catch. Ichiyo and Junpei watching the baseball game. And the scene with Kou's mom and dad; wow.

[Reckoner]

I give up, I am picking up the manga. To hell with it. I can't wait one more week. This story is too good. :upset:

[HitagiIsHot]

Also good to know they didn't troll us in the preview last week and that Azuma was really talking to Aoba. He's so casual about everything. Telling Aoba, and especially in the locker room. I told you guys, I'd only consider going out with Aoba. Huh? I didn't tell you already?

What was with that "I didn't tell you?" I guess he's just so blunt and nonchalant about it all that he doesn't really care if other people know that about him.

About the Akane and Kou scene at the end. She said that she didn't think Wakaba would have gotten tired of him (could be a compliment/showing that she also sees the good in him), and then the gift --> they seem to be progressing the Kou x Akane pairing... at this point, I do think Akane may have more than just "friend" feelings for Kou.

[BetoJR]

I give up, I am picking up the manga. To hell with it. I can't wait one more week. This story is too good. :upset:
You won't be disappointed. Well, maybe with any breaks in the publishing schedule, but otherwise... :p

[MeoTwister5]

I'm personally going to read the manga after the series ends (heaven forbid). Mostly because it gives me one more thing to look forward to every Monday.:)

[Mikapon]

lol at this week's quiz.
I like how it's "how many did Kou say he got" instead of "how many did Kou get.":)

If anyone is wondering what the school chairman was waiting for at the beginning of the show, it's the invitation call for the "Senbatsu."
The Senbatsu Koushien held in the spring has no prelims. The teams get invited from the selection committee. If you get selected you go straight to the Koshien series.
The selection criteria is mostly based on the fall tournament results, but there are many selection brackets so you might get selected even if you don't win the regionals.

[Sackett]

I would contest that for a variety of reasons, and the most obvious is...do you really think Aoba is the type who would let someone see her doing something as affectionate as giving the gift to Kou? I don't think so.

Yeah... and my response to that is that I think most of all Aoba wouldn't want Kou to see her doing anything affectionate for Kou.

If she had managed to overcome that hurdle I don't see why Akane's presence would stop her.

the mangaka sure is implying heavily for a Kou x Akane much, at least from Kou's perspective. We still haven't seen what he concretely decides to do about because he's personally been rather indecisive about the entire issue. He's usually straightforward and decisive, something he doesn;t show around Akane, for obvious reasons.

Interesting, I don't see Kou as being indecisive. I see him as being very careful about showing his feelings, but I think he clearly is much more interested in Aoba then Akane. Aoba sends such confusing messages that it's hard for him too see a way to pursue her.

The far more interesting element was that Akane gave Kou a chocolate too. Is she becoming interested in him? Maybe (like Wakaba) she believes in fate, which combined with everything must make Kou very interesting- add in that Kou is such a nice guy...

I forsee people beginning to adjust and act as though Kou and Akane are "together" the same way they did with Wakaba- and I foresee Kou becoming more and more irritated by that.

[ZGMF-X10A]

As Ansalem mentioned, the kitchen scene was my favorite as well. Any scene with Kou and Aoba is always good but this one was particularly entertaining. Not sure what role Aoba's cousin will have now since Azuma makes for a more interesting candidate for her.

if Azuma's brother gets married to Ichiyo, which looks like it might happen, than wouldn't Azuma be related to Aoba? brother/sister in law? can brother/sister in-law get married? I'm guessing it can because didn't Aoba's cousin say that cousins can get married I don't think brother/sister in-laws can't. That would be kinda messed up, your cousin/brother in-law wants to be with you.

[poko-kun]

if Azuma's brother gets married to Ichiyo, which looks like it might happen, than wouldn't Azuma be related to Aoba? brother/sister in law? can brother/sister in-law get married?

They can :p

Opps! Sorry I spoiled a bit.
(You don't have to believe me, though.)
:D

[Ansalem]

if Azuma's brother gets married to Ichiyo, which looks like it might happen, than wouldn't Azuma be related to Aoba? brother/sister in law? can brother/sister in-law get married? I'm guessing it can because didn't Aoba's cousin say that cousins can get married I don't think brother/sister in-laws can't. That would be kinda messed up, your cousin/brother in-law wants to be with you.

Restrictions for marrying relatives at this point are mostly to prevent genetic problems in children. I can't think of a place where marrying your brother/sister-in-law is illegal. Cousins I could see being a little odd, but considering you don't have any blood relation to your siblings-in-law, it's not really that weird.

This episode also makes me curious if there will be an episode with White Day. For those unfamiliar with Valentine's day in Japan, girls give boys chocolate on February 14 and boys are supposed to give a (more expensive) gift to the girls from whom he received chocolate on March 14, White Day. It's a little more complex than that, but that's the general idea.

[MeoTwister5]

I expect Aoba to kick some ass next week. Who's with me?

[Proto]

I would like for some people in the national team tests to be able to stand up to her, so that it doesn't lose on realism.

[ZGMF-X10A]

Restrictions for marrying relatives at this point are mostly to prevent genetic problems in children. I can't think of a place where marrying your brother/sister-in-law is illegal. Cousins I could see being a little odd, but considering you don't have any blood relation to your siblings-in-law, it's not really that weird.

This episode also makes me curious if there will be an episode with White Day. For those unfamiliar with Valentine's day in Japan, girls give boys chocolate on February 14 and boys are supposed to give a (more expensive) gift to the girls from whom he received chocolate on March 14, White Day. It's a little more complex than that, but that's the general idea.

that makes sense.

As for the white day I don't see Kou giving Aoba anything expensive if theres going to be an episode about it. It'll probably be a box of chocolates if he does. Kou is cheap, but he did purchase the gifts Waka told him to get her. Kou might do something nice for Akane though imo because they are so alike. As for Azuma, I don't think he'll give anything back to Aoba seeing how hes not the kind that would do something like that.

[Pellissier]

If she had managed to overcome that hurdle I don't see why Akane's presence would stop her.
Because while maybe Aoba was able to overcome that hurdle, now it's Akane's very presence to overcome hers.
Whenever Akane is around Kou, Aoba either makes herself very small or disappears, it's a sort of replay of the times of Aoba, Wakaba and Kou, just that now Aoba retreats of her own will. It's like in her mind she can't even conceive a "fight" for Kou towards Akane, and gives up without even trying.

The chocolates were meant for Kou, and she could have made many excuses to justify them (from "obligatory choco" to "sorry for the burden"). But if Akane were to see her giving chocolate to Kou, she would have thought to a romantic development of the Kou-Aoba relationship. Something that Aoba doesn't want anyone to see, Akane being the very last person in the world.

So she had to change her strategy and have the chocolates delivered to Azuma (whom had just indirectly confessed to her) instead. When Azuma goes to Clover later, she's confused and murmurs something about it being all right. Still she didn't sound really convinced, and as Proto pointed out earlier, she had a raging upsetment growing on her.

"Sunao no onna janai", said Azuma in that conversation with Kou. Literally, a woman who isn't honest with her feelings. Just in the one episode she made her feelings more clearer than usual for us watchers (the banters at the beginning, the bridge scene (showing a lot of caring and affection despite all), buying chocolates for him), she decides to withdraw at the crucial moment, keeping all inside.

[poko-kun]

Do you believe that Kou got 4 chocolate?


I don't think so.

[satomianzaki]

goodness...this episode is like bitter sweet...just like a dark chocolate...hahaha...

the scenes with kou and aoba on the first part was really sweet...but regarding the chocolates and with kou reminscin' about wakaba cause of akane, well...i have nothing against akane btw, and i think she really is a nice girl...

anyways, am really loving every episode of the anime (and every chapter of the manga too)...i really wanna see more kou x aoba moments both in the manga and anime...

shocks i really can't wait...

:D

[Pellissier]

Do you believe that Kou got 4 chocolate?


I don't think so.
If you're asking to me, the answer no. To me, it's as he received 6 (the four that went into the truck, +1 from Akane and yes, though virtual, +1 from Aoba). As simple as that :)

[Proto]

Heck, for that matter he received 10 of them.

[cf18]

she had a raging upsetment growing on her.


She may be just upset about her biggest fear - Akane may replace Kou's memory of Wakaba, and eventually even her own memory. Aoba still can't properly talk to Akane, but after seeing the photos Akane may now understand Aoba'a issue.

[DeX-kun]

She may be just upset about her biggest fear - Akane may replace Kou's memory of Wakaba, and eventually even her own memory.

Not possible. Out of all people, Aoba knows for a fact that no one can replace the memory of Wakaba which is one of the actual issues she's having with being more honest about her feelings (of course, Aoba's personality is another one of those issues as well.)

[Proto]

Although I don't think that the memory of Wakaba on Aoba or Kou is an issue here, it do is possible for the memories of her to be overwritten, merged and confounded with memories of Akane, since they both overlap on so many senses. Speaking from a psychological POV of course.

[DeX-kun]

Although I don't think that the memory of Wakaba on Aoba or Kou is an issue here.

Really? I figured that even if Aoba were more honest about liking Kou, wouldn't her memories of Wakaba telling her that she couldn't have him interfere? So in a sense, I see it as a plausible issue between them (at least from Aoba's point of view.)

[Proto]

I was referring to the memories in the way cf18 was, the memory of Wakaba telling Aoba not to have Kou is a different matter altogether.

[DeX-kun]

I was referring to the memories in the way cf18 was, the memory of Wakaba telling Aoba not to have Kou is a different matter altogether.

Ah, then I must have misunderstood his post all together then. You can disregard my posts :uhoh:

[HitagiIsHot]

Because while maybe Aoba was able to overcome that hurdle, now it's Akane's very presence to overcome hers.
Whenever Akane is around Kou, Aoba either makes herself very small or disappears, it's a sort of replay of the times of Aoba, Wakaba and Kou, just that now Aoba retreats of her own will. It's like in her mind she can't even conceive a "fight" for Kou towards Akane, and gives up without even trying.

Very interesting analysis Pellissier. Why does Aoba make herself very small when Akane & Kou are together? We also have to ask why Aoba did the Akane blood type scouting earlier? I'm assuming Aoba knows that Akane is not Wakaba, but subconsciously she can't fight the Wakaba look alike for Kou. Add the fact that Aoba's actions suggests that she expects Kou to like Akane because of her resemblance to Wakaba, and, so far, she has the personality of a saint. She's an artist, and really friendly to her Kitamura and Tsukishima neighbors. Aoba likes Kou, but she denies her own feelings and is somewhat of a catalyst in bringing Kou x Akane together. Kind of a tragic flaw in her personality, if you think about it really.

Do you believe that Kou got 4 chocolate?


I don't think so.

Perhaps he was trying to hide that he got nothing? However, I do believe that Kou has no reason to lie about it. It could just be that he didn't want to show Aoba how many he got because it's... Aoba, but then was forced to tell her or not have any chocolates at all for Valentines Day (even though he would get one from Akane).

[The Rumblefish]

As for the white day I don't see Kou giving Aoba anything expensive if theres going to be an episode about it.

If so, it would be an interesting sign because Kô did not officially receive any chocolate from Aoba, but technically received more chocolates From Aoba than any other girl. So, his attitude about Valentine Day and how he viewed Aoba's actions that day would be very revealing.

[poko-kun]

i mean, if kou said he got ten of them, will aoba still agree to buy him back? that would consume a lot of her allowance.
or kou just got only 3, so 4 is already a plus. who knows.

[Guardian Enzo]

Man, this series is going to f*cking kill me.

That was so good, honestly - just tremendous. I do have to once again quibble with titles, though - this should have been called "Isn't it obvious?" And isn't it? I mean, that entire scene of Kou and Aoba bickering couldn't have been any cuter.

So much of import happened here. We now see how Aoba can be in CF for Waka-chan's dream. And yet, though Akane was drawing from sketches of Aoba, it's clear in her mind's eye she was seeing Kou. So in effect, that image is a composite - Kou and Aoba are as one. Powerful symbolism there.

Of course, the huge question hanging over the ep is, who was the fifth choco intended for? I'm firmly in the camp that believes it was for Kou - and not from Waka, either. As usual, though, timing is abysmal and Akane spoils the mood. Meanwhile, Azuma goes and be's his amazingly cool self and gets alone time with Aoba. I know Adachi is playing with our heads and these are necessary, catalysts to spur the main event, but dammit - I can't be sure. And both Akane and Azuma are so damn feasible as options, too, enough to really make you worry.

Finally, a word must be said about Momiji's great line - "Isn't it great that Aoba's a girl?" The youngest sister is no fool, that's for sure...

[MeoTwister5]

Oh I don't think it's ever been a problem to know who that chocolate really was for. The thing is that for me, what exactly would Aoba have said to Kou if Akane didn't happen to arrive (dammit!)? Kou is still as dense as a brick but he's picking up on it. The fact that he insisted immediately to know why there was a fifth chocolate in their was signified that enough, but since the story has a damn perfect habit of hiding true intentions from the viewer that no can really knows 100%.

And I've stated in my previous post, I did call into question if that sketch really was a composite of both of them. The thing is AFAIK Akane has never seen Aoba pitch and drew that sketch watching Kou in that game. However even then, both Kou and Aoba acknowledge the fact that it was Aoba's form and Kou adapted her form to his. More than a simple consolidation of both their forms, to me it's Kou subconscious imitation of Aoba's pitching form despite their rough and tumble relationship. Despite what he might say, Aoba is practically his single biggest baseball inspiration, of sorts.

My point with the mangaka making some AkanexKou implications is more rooted again in this show's ability to present one thing but mean another, at the same time not presenting superficial intentions to light. It almost feels like a painful red herring of an insinuation that's for sure.:eyespin:

[MushroomSamba]

Very interesting analysis Pellissier. Why does Aoba make herself very small when Akane & Kou are together? We also have to ask why Aoba did the Akane blood type scouting earlier? I'm assuming Aoba knows that Akane is not Wakaba, but subconsciously she can't fight the Wakaba look alike for Kou. Add the fact that Aoba's actions suggests that she expects Kou to like Akane because of her resemblance to Wakaba, and, so far, she has the personality of a saint. She's an artist, and really friendly to her Kitamura and Tsukishima neighbors. Aoba likes Kou, but she denies her own feelings and is somewhat of a catalyst in bringing Kou x Akane together. Kind of a tragic flaw in her personality, if you think about it really.

I think you and Pell are both right on the money.

It's almost as if part of her really desires Kou and Akane to end up together despite her own feelings for Kou, because it'd sorta be like everything would go back to the way things were in their childhood...and that one misfortune in fate would suddenly be righted. She always cared deeply for Wakaba, and wouldn't want to get in the way of her (now Akane's) happiness, even if that meant suppressing her own. How conflicting.

[Guardian Enzo]

Here's something I wonder - and I think it highly dangerous for the manga readers to even contemplate answering.

As we've all seen, Azuma is a remarkably astute and observant young fellow. For all his droll and cool exterior, it's clear he's driven by the same deep emotions as anyone else in the cast. He's already said Aoba is the "only one he'd consider going out with." We have no reason to doubt that he genuinely likes her and finds her attractive.

Yet, we also know this - Azuma understands the bond between Kou and Aoba better than either of them do (or are, at least, willing to admit). He's made this clear via various cutting commentary on numerous occasions already. And I also think it's clear that he respects Kou as an athlete and a person, and genuinely cares for him as a friend. Not to mention, he's grateful to Kou and his family for taking him in. Given all that, would Azuma actually follow through with dating Aoba? Would he do that under any circumstances, given what he knows and how he feels - or perhaps, is there a limit to how much time he'd give Kou to "shit ot get off the pot" before he'd figure he's been a good friend, but it's open season?

I'm not saying that dating Aoba (assuming she'd date him) would make Azuma a bad guy, necessarily. After all, Kou has had literally his entire life to openly express an interest in Aoba, and it's not as if Azuma has stood in his way. But could Azuma ever actually do it, knowing what he knows and being who he is?

[MushroomSamba]

But could Azuma ever actually do it, knowing what he knows and being who he is?

I'm still under the notion that Azuma (and possibly Akane as well) is savvy on the whole Kou-Aoba situation, and is trying to play them into realizing it. I honestly doubt his feelings for Aoba go past anything further than utmost respect.

[Guardian Enzo]

I think you and Pell are both right on the money.

It's almost as if part of her really desires Kou and Akane to end up together, despite her own feelings for Kou, because it'd sorta be like everything would go back to the way things were in their childhood. She always cared deeply for Wakaba, and wouldn't want to get in the way of her (now Akane's) happiness, even if that meant suppressing her own. How conflicting.

I also think Pellisier was on the money, especially with the observation of Aoba shrinking into herself whenever Akane is present (or even mentioned, I would add). I think the logical extension of your post is that for Aoba, the fact that she likes - in fact, very likely loves - Kou - is deeply disquieting. After all, she's spent her entire life coming up with reasons why she should hate him - she's positively dedicated to the search - not to mention that Waka's words forever hang over her like the a black cloud of guilt. Pairing Kou off with Akane spares her from having to confront a rather difficult truth, and as a bonus gives her an illusion that she's helping Waka out in a way.

Poor Akane seems such a nice person, yet through no fault of her own she's totally and completely wrong for Kou in every way. There's no way he could ever have a meaningful relationship with her without it involving an unhealthy stagnation of his personal growth. For both Kou and Aoba Akane, as sweet as she is, represents a step backward, a retreat into their childhood guilt and sadness. Akane is the past, and Aoba and Kou are each other's future, if only they could see it.

Aoba and Kou... I don't know which of these poor kids is the more pathetic. Each of them has lived under the shadow of Waka's death for their entire adolescence. For Aoba, an inferiority complex that she can never overcome (even little Momiji gave a taste of this, noting that she can never match Waka in swimming as Waka was younger when she died) and an urgent fear of reaching for what her heart desires. For Kou, a sense of responsibility that he can never fully pay off, a devotion to a girl long gone at the expense of one within his reach. As Akane is blameless for the retardation her presence places on the growth of Kou and Aoba, so too is Waka-chan - she could hardly have known her careless words to them in life would serve to imprison them after her death. Yet that's just what they did - and Kou and Aoba remain entrapped by outside forces, unable to selfishly seek their own happiness.

This is getting complicated...

[SuperKnuckles]

Man... NOTHING really seems to get these characters going off except for maybe Akaishi physically dropping things when he gets surprised. I mean, all those revelations and outright confessions and the like, and all they do is give out sarcastic responses and just all cool as a cucumber. :heh:

[MeoTwister5]

But if there's actually one thing we can all agree on, despite being in the post-humous Wakaba still maintains a towering presence and influence in the lives of just about everybody whether they will admit to this fact or not. Even in death her specter still affects the everyday lives of everyone involved.

This type of character presence is more than what I could say for even the main leads of lesser series'.:cool:

[jpwong]

Given all that, would Azuma actually follow through with dating Aoba? Would he do that under any circumstances, given what he knows and how he feels - or perhaps, is there a limit to how much time he'd give Kou to "shit ot get off the pot" before he'd figure he's been a good friend, but it's open season?

I think he'd go out with Aoba, but only because Aoba's definition of a "date" doesn't appear to be what we'd call serious business. I mean the last time she went on what she seems to consider "a date" was some sort of multi-person power amusement park event. I dunno, I mean, part of it is Aoba. Until she can get a grip on what she wants, I don't think she'll take any dating seriously.

Edit: Oh wow, I just noticed that in episode 4 when Ko's entering the batting center right before Azuma comes out, he's wearing a blue shirt. Then when Azuma comes into the lobby it flips to red and then back to blue when Aoba tries to give him his socks. :heh:

[karasuma]

Azuma is sharp. He realized Aoba is not a straight forward type of girl. So, she giving out chocolate to anyone is wierd. Then, in the cafe, first Ichiyo and akashi left when Aoba is rambling about nothing between her and Kou. Then Aoba escape from Azuma after her cousin shows up.

[HitagiIsHot]

Azuma is sharp. He realized Aoba is not a straight forward type of girl. So, she giving out chocolate to anyone is wierd. Then, in the cafe, first Ichiyo and akashi left when Aoba is rambling about nothing between her and Kou. Then Aoba escape from Azuma after her cousin shows up.

Exactly. This is why the chocolates were really meant for Kou. If they were truly for Azuma, we would probably have been treated to an extended dialogue between Azuma and Aoba. Instead, she up and leaves as soon as someone can replace her to watch the shop! It's obvious her mind is somewhere else at the time. She had to go "bat" in order to deal with the fact that Akane is over at Kou's house looking at Waka-chan's pictures.

[DeX-kun]

Exactly. This is why the chocolates were really meant for Kou. If they were truly for Azuma, we would probably have been treated to an extended dialogue between Azuma and Aoba. Instead, she up and leaves as soon as someone can replace her to watch the shop! It's obvious her mind is somewhere else at the time. She had to go "bat" in order to deal with the fact that Akane is over at Kou's house looking at Waka-chan's pictures.

Which is why I also think that Azuma would never go to the lengths of trying to date Aoba. Azuma knows that Aoba only has her eyes set on Kou and he can read through just about any front (especially Aoba's.) In the previous episode, Aoba used the batting cage as a way to vent and get her mind off things, and in this episode Aoba goes to the cage again in order to get her mind off the fact that Akane and Kou are together in Kou's room. Azuma already knows, so I doubt he would try anything.

Aoba is so dishonest with herself :heh:

[Willen]

The thing is, as Azuma stated, his type of girl is Aoba. She doesn't 'mess around' by giving out chocolates like his fanclub. In fact, she also doesn't look forward to her fans giving them to her, based on her tone of voice when explaining the origins of the boxes of chocolate on her desk to Mizuki. She's the most dedicated member of the baseball team, even though she can't play in official games. She's got a stubborn streak that is one the endearing and frustrating qualities of her personality. Her biggest failing is that she's not honest about her own feelings and desires. She's probably the first girl that he's remembered a name to. And that's saying a lot.

Logically, Azuma is going to be a big factor in breaking Aoba out of her shell. Aside from Kou, he's the only guy that's received her sarcastic responses. Senda got ignored. Mizuki's confession got a small reaction, but he pretty much fades into the background thereafter (well, at least he got her acting a bit more modestly at home). Her other suitors got the obligation date (Mizuki did too). Azuma's statement at the batting cages made enough of an impression that when pressed later by Kou about the extra chocolate, Aoba can use his name as an obvious diversion of her true intentions. Right now, he's in the perfect position to observe both Kou and Aoba.

Any 'date' Azuma and Aoba end up going on will probably have ulterior motives behind it.

[MeoTwister5]

The thing is, as Azuma stated, his type of girl is Aoba. She doesn't 'mess around' by giving out chocolates like his fanclub. In fact, she also doesn't look forward to her fans giving them to her, based on her tone of voice when explaining the origins of the boxes of chocolate on her desk to Mizuki. She's the most dedicated member of the baseball team, even though she can't play in official games. She's got a stubborn streak that is one the endearing and frustrating qualities of her personality. Her biggest failing is that she's not honest about her own feelings and desires. She's probably the first girl that he's remembered a name to. And that's saying a lot.

Logically, Azuma is going to be a big factor in breaking Aoba out of her shell. Aside from Kou, he's the only guy that's received her sarcastic responses. Senda got ignored. Mizuki's confession got a small reaction, but he pretty much fades into the background thereafter (well, at least he got her acting a bit more modestly at home). Her other suitors got the obligation date (Mizuki did too). Azuma's statement at the batting cages made enough of an impression that when pressed later by Kou about the extra chocolate, Aoba can use his name as an obvious diversion of her true intentions. Right now, he's in the perfect position to observe both Kou and Aoba.

Any 'date' Azuma and Aoba end up going on will probably have ulterior motives behind it.

And as Willen and previous others have stated, it all stems from Aoba's stubborn refusal to voice her feelings and intentions to basically anybody, save perhaps Wakaba if she were still alive. That's the problem right there: the classical storytelling signs of her attitude and personality already point to Kou for the experienced viewer/reader but again she has never in any shape or form ever definitively expressed what she really feels.

What we have now are basically conjectures and patterns based off of more predictable human traits and actions, but that's just about it. I'm not exactly shipping a certain pairing with this post but merely stating that what we have are assumptions, not definitives. Until Aoba breaks out of said shell and explicitly makes a choice (and this seems far and away from the current events), either/or Kou and Azuma are fair game.:p

Even then, some might be hard pressed to make a choice right then and there. You have 2 great guys to choose from. If I had a uterus I'd probably have a hard time too (but I still lean for Kou). :p

[xKeen]

I can't wait to see the final match-Koshien.I don't read the manga,so I don't know.I think it would be very heartwarming to see that,since there are no females who entered Koshien before?and also made wakaba's dream come true.This isn't a spoiler,just what I want.I hope they spend a few episodes on the Koshien match.The matches up to now gets me excited throughout the episodes.

[poko-kun]

I don't know if anime already mentioned it or not.
The book Akane returned to Kou in episode 34 was Aoba's pitching photo album which Kou uses as a base.
Akane told Kou that he won't see what she drew until summer. (sure, cause it will be on summer Koshien poster)

[xKeen]

Edited.Was too tired but made a post.

[Proto]

Well, it's partly because poko can't remember what happened 1 episode ago. :heh:

But no, I can't really see how you made that connection.

[poko-kun]

My brain has a lot of free space, but too little ram, you know? lol

What I was trying to tell is... why the hell Kou has Aoba photo in such a big album. Is he a stalker?

[Proto]

Well, allegedly he was using it as a base for copying her pitching form. Let's not think too deeply about that. :p

[Guardian Enzo]

Well, allegedly he was using it as a base for copying her pitching form. Let's not think too deeply about that. :p

Well actually, strictly from a baseball standpoint that's a perfectly legit reason. Pitching form looks easy but it's incredibly hard - tiny changes can make a huge different in control, velocity, and even potential serious injury. Aoba was the best pitcher young Kou knew (and we know he certainly wasn't getting any formal coaching when he was learning to play), so naturally it was her form he wanted to study in detail. I don't deny there might be ulterior motives and that's not the only part of her form that interests him - she certainly possesses many of the qualities prized by the superficial male - but I think the surface explanation does hold water.

[BetoJR]

Indeed it does. Nevertheless, ulterior motives could be at play, as well.

[Guardian Enzo]

I'm not quite as convinced as some that Azuma doesn't harbor ambitions when it comes to Aoba, though if Kou stepped up to the plate I think he'd defer. When he came into the cafe to tell her that Kou was in his room looking at photos with Akane, it seemed to me he went out of his way to say he "left so they cold be alone" or words to that effect. I almost detected a calculating air about him as he said so, too, though it's hard to tell with Mr. Implacable.

Of course, one could also make the case that even if it was calculated, Azuma was doing it to make Aoba realize there was a sense or urgency to coming to terms with her feelings.

[BetoJR]

I'd be more inclined to agree with the second option, but... you never know.

[Nosauz]

God damn you, Enzo and Betojr, makes me think you guys are double posting. here's my two cents. It's obvious aoba is in love with Kou, but not only is she harboring guilt after Wakaba's death, specifically this is referred to multiple times (the scene where wakaba says, she can't have him even if he can throw a 16o km/h pitch) she also tries to maintain the, we're not close but we're still freinds thing, most likely to not keep Kou too far away. Azuma probably does indeed like Aoba, but really I think he knows that even if she were to accept him, it wouldn't be her true feelings which is why Azuma does pressure her but still in a way where he can still maintain some control over the situation as he is guiding the relationship at the moment. Plus the chocolate thing basically cements aoba's feelings, and again guilt and loyalty to her dead sister, which are all respectable qualities, bite her in the butt.

[BetoJR]

God damn you, Enzo and Betojr, makes me think you guys are double posting.
I can say that, for my part, it was absolutely intentional. :D

[Pellissier]

Visuals do work better than words, and episode 35 has shown us at least five different sides of Aoba, usually we don't get to see so much variations of her in one episode timespan.

1) The "new" Aoba.

http://h.imagehost.org/0009/1-small.jpg

The proof that Aoba has changed a lot towards Kou, now their debates turn to be more of a wordplay (I'm sure both seiyuu must have had fun dubbing this scene), but while still trying to be antagonizing at times, in Ao-chan there are no signs of real bitterness anymore. She can fake it, but she doesn't mean it.

2) The playful Aoba.

http://h.imagehost.org/0390/2-small.jpg

This is the Aoba we've been seeing starting from her 1st year of high school, but now without animosity. She of all people wants to know how many chocolates Kou has got, after all the times she cursed him in the past for not minding his business. Teasing yet composed, courteous yet malicious, serious yet cheerful.

3) The honest Aoba.

http://h.imagehost.org/0424/3-small.jpg

She's alone in this scene, so she can be honest with her feelings with no worries (well, after he made sure Kou wasn't peeking, of course). "Should I buy him chocolates or should I not?". Of course she does, and for once she follows what her heart says, instead of her mind.

4) The resigned Aoba.

http://h.imagehost.org/0823/4-small.jpg

No good, Akane's appearance brings to the surface Aoba's weaknesses. Mostly for what she represents than for who she really is, Akane is the hurdle Aoba doesn't even try to challenge. She's back to listening to her mind, saying that Kou and Akane is the best possible scenario, and that she must step back for everyone's sake, even if that goes at her own expenses.

5) The upset Aoba.

http://h.imagehost.org/0349/5-small.jpg

One thing is to escape from a situation that makes you feel uneasy, another thing, much more painful, is to keep thinking about it. Furthermore, when you learn that the two of them seems to be actually progressing on her relationship and even your big sister tells you that might be the ideal solution. Even for someone as strong as Aoba, that is a lot to swallow, so the convenient apparition of Mizuki allows her all in once a) to avoid Azuma b) to get some fresh air c) to swing a bit, swinging is good for distressing.


So much for 20 minutes. I can say one thing for sure, no matter what will happen, Aoba will remain of the most complicated and intriguing characters I've faced in all my anime history.

[Guardian Enzo]

I can say that, for my part, it was absolutely intentional. :D

And I for mine, that the avatar was my suggestion!

[Proto]

@Pellissier: Nice image montage you got there. And I agree, while this episode was quite complete in terms of showing (or insinuating) all the main characters and were they are standing in respect to each other, Aoba is the one that got the spotlight out of all of them.

[Proto]

(sorry for the double post)

After seeing the episode for the 4th time (...) I noticed that when Ichijo mentioned that Akane would eventually get on with Kou if she's that similar to Wakaba, she was giving quite an interesting look to Aoba, almost as if intending to get a reaction from her. Just for those who say they feel betrayed by Ichijo.

In any case, I've got to say I just love the OST in this series.

[DeX-kun]

(sorry for the double post)

After seeing the episode for the 4th time (...) I noticed that when Ichijo mentioned that Akane would eventually get on with Kou if she's that similar to Wakaba, she was giving quite an interesting look to Aoba, almost as if intending to get a reaction from her. Just for those who say they feel betrayed by Ichijo.

Now that I think about it, you're right. Ichijo (Ichiyo?) was probably giving her that look not only to get a reaction but probably a way to tell Aoba that she should make her move before it's too late.

[xKeen]

Nice cute scenes of Aoba you got there :D

[Willen]

Now that I think about it, you're right. Ichijo (Ichiyo?) was probably giving her that look not only to get a reaction but probably a way to tell Aoba that she should make her move before it's too late.

I agree that it's a subtle warning to Aoba from big-sis Ichiyo that she's got a real rival now for Kou. It's one thing to defer to your (now deceased) sister, but seeing as Akane is even originally from the neighborhood, Kou is now fair game. Aoba needs to treat her relationships like baseball -- with straight forward determination.

[HitagiIsHot]

I can't wait to see the final match-Koshien.I don't read the manga,so I don't know.I think it would be very heartwarming to see that,since there are no females who entered Koshien before?and also made wakaba's dream come true.This isn't a spoiler,just what I want.I hope they spend a few episodes on the Koshien match.The matches up to now gets me excited throughout the episodes.

Agreed. I too would like them to spend a few episodes once they reach Koshein, for everything builds up to that point. Can't be too far from now, there are only 16 episodes left of this wonderful series.

[Guardian Enzo]

No doubt Koshien is a major milestone in the series, but for me everything builds to the point where Kou and Aoba finally get past their demons and stubbornness and stupidity and admit they love each other. Chu! Even Koshien takes a back seat to that if you're talking about the dramatic climax of the show.

No, not a spoiler - haven't read the manga. just a hope.

[DeX-kun]

No doubt Koshien is a major mikestone in the series, but for me everything builds to the point where Kou and Aoba finally get past their demons and stubbornness and stupidity and stupidity and admit they love each other. Chu! Even Koshien takes a back seat to that if you're talking about the dramatic climax of the show.

No, not a spoiler - haven't read the manga. just a hope.

I can't agree more :heh: As much as I love baseball and the excitement that radiates from the thought, I don't think it will top a moment of romance between Kou and Aoba (I'm also hoping this becomes a reality.)

[sunwen]

40g of Pitching
25g of Batting
15g of Death cook
5g of Covering embarrassment
95kg of Hard to say I love Koh

[MeoTwister5]

40g of Pitching
25g of Batting
15g of Death cook
5g of Covering embarrassment
95kg of Hard to say I love Koh

That makes her... quite a heavy young lady.:eyespin:

[Guardian Enzo]

That makes her... quite a heavy young lady.:eyespin:

"I want you
I want you so bad
I want you,
I want you so bad
It’s driving me mad, it’s driving me mad."

- Kitamura Kou's subconscious

[MeoTwister5]

What are the chances that we'll ever see any sort of close proximity contact between these two?:heh:

[HitagiIsHot]

No doubt Koshien is a major milestone in the series, but for me everything builds to the point where Kou and Aoba finally get past their demons and stubbornness and stupidity and admit they love each other. Chu! Even Koshien takes a back seat to that if you're talking about the dramatic climax of the show.

No, not a spoiler - haven't read the manga. just a hope.

Good point. I see CG more as a slice of life/school/romance type of series than a baseball one, however I have also grown to appreciate the baseball aspect of the show and just baseball in general. As I have said before, this show does a lot of things well, including the baseball aspect of it (IMO).

40g of Pitching
25g of Batting
15g of Death cook
5g of Covering embarrassment
95kg of Hard to say I love Koh

That would make Aoba over 200+ lbs of pure muscle... I mean how else can she throw a fast ball like that? She's gotta be somewhat beastly.

[BetoJR]

Have you guys seen the girls on those "Be like Aoba" promos at the end of the episodes? That would kinda be what Aoba should look like in real life, I guess...

Okay, not a pretty picture...

[JackRydden224]

Has Adachi ever paired up the main couple before the series ends? Yes or no answer please (since I"m still on ep 83 of touch).

*Speaking of touch, Kashibawa has made the last 15 episodes or so soooo annoying to watch.

[The Rumblefish]

Has Adachi ever paired up the main couple before the series ends? Yes or no answer please (since I"m still on ep 83 of touch).
Yes, it has happened.

*Speaking of touch, Kashibawa has made the last 15 episodes or so soooo annoying to watch.
You will turn to appreciate what the character provides the show with. Interesting stories need interesting bad guys. In the case of Touch, the manga (especially the ending) is way above the anime, from my view. You should give it a chance if you appreciated the anime.

Speaking of manga to anime adaptations, I won't detail it here but I just re-read Cross Game around the point the anime reached and I was surprised by how many little differences there are in the way that Valentine Day was depicted in both versions. More to talk about in the manga thread.

[sunwen]

For manga heroes, the toughest rival in love is the deceased.

refer to Maison Ikkoku.
It took more than three years until their first kiss.

[poko-kun]

For manga heroes, the toughest rival in love is the deceased.

refer to Maison Ikkoku.
It took more than three years until their first kiss.


Well.... We need some fast tracks. :heh: