The 2009 Re-Launch of Haruhi Suzumiya (General Discussion)

[relentlessflame]

Beginning in April 2009, Kadokawa re-launched The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya anime, re-airing the series in the order in which chapters appeared in the light novels, and adding new episodes to fill in the gaps left by the initial airing in 2006. The re-launch is currently rumoured to contain 28 episodes (this has not yet been confirmed). DVDs will be released beginning in August 2009.

This thread is to discuss, in general, this re-launch of the anime, including the structure of the new re-telling, the episodes that will be covered, and so on. It can be considered one of the spiritual successors to the Second Season Speculation thread that begin in 2007. To discuss and speculate in general about future episodes of the show, including about episodes that may come in potential future seasons, please consult the Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions/General Speculation thread.

[LumpOfCole]

So guys, do you think there will be a third season?

;)

[swtrooper42]

Yeah, in 3 more years.

[wittyusername]

Yeah, in 3 more years.

At some point wouldn't it have to be shifted to four years, if they wanted to say that the three year delay was a ~symbolism~ thing and not an attempt to keep milking the series without having to release any new content?

[spawnofthejudge]

So here's an on-topic question: We have a new ED, which by itself can tell us, if we ever forget, which run each episode in this relaunch came from. But will we get a new OP? Will all of the new episodes forgo an OP?

I think we're not, as I think the change of ED is a cute way of identification, and if they use an OP for any more episodes they'll use the old one. That way will (would?) be more cohesive for the relaunch and tie it all together nicely, I think.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I think we're not, as I think the change of ED is a cute way of identification, and if they use an OP for any more episodes they'll use the old one. That way will (would?) be more cohesive for the relaunch and tie it all together nicely, I think.

Maybe, but I think they only reason we didn't get a new OP was BLR's running time.

Endless Eight is a long story too, so they may need to forego the OP there as well, but I'd think we'll be seeing a new one by the Sighs episodes. Or, depending on the tone of the new OP, we might only be seeing it for the Disappearance episodes.

I don't know yet.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'm sure we'll be getting a new OP starting with Endless Eight. Chances are, they decided to forgo placing it with BLR to add to the surprise.

*e* Okay, ignore this post :heh:

[Midonin]

There's nothing pointing to a new OP in any store listings. Then again, there was nothing pointing to "Tomare!"'s existence until the episode actually aired, so I have no clue.

[bayoab]

I had thought someone had found what was likely the OP CD back when Tomare! had appeared. I'd also bet they are saving it for when they have back to back episodes and not just the one shots.

[quigonkenny]

Maybe, but I think they only reason we didn't get a new OP was BLR's running time.

Endless Eight is a long story too, so they may need to forego the OP there as well, but I'd think we'll be seeing a new one by the Sighs episodes. Or, depending on the tone of the new OP, we might only be seeing it for the Disappearance episodes.

I don't know yet.
Agreed about "Endless Eight". Considering how Sigh starts, I can definitely see them doing a cold open, so I wouldn't put much into it if there's no OP for the first ep, but if there is one, I think we can safely say there will be a full four episodes. If they try to squeeze it into three, they're going to have to cut stuff as it is, and BLR showed that the OP is the first thing to go.

That's independent of whether said OP is new, but I think it will be. Too much opportunity to get otaku money from a new musical release, and I don't see "Tomare" carrying a single. Considering the subject matter of the remaining episodes, maybe we'll get to hear Minorin sing lead on it.

EDIT:I had thought someone had found what was likely the OP CD back when Tomare! had appeared. I'd also bet they are saving it for when they have back to back episodes and not just the one shots.
"Endless Eight" should be back to back with the Sigh episodes, but as Kaisos suggested, E8 is another BLR-length chapter, so a missing OP is likely.

On a different note, I worked the math recently and four episodes for Sigh seems most likely to me unless they cut the whole Mikuru x Patrón scene, which they won't since it's so central to the novel. They may change the details of it, though, to keep Mikuru from violating any liquor laws.

Assuming Disappearance gets five, as expected, that most likely puts us at "Where Did the Cat Go?" for the season ender, likely with a tease for the Intrigues prologue, or even a fair portion of it outright depending upon how much of it we'll have seen already from when it happened the first time, and how much they can slim "NekoDoko" down.

If that last paragraph confused anyone, (re)read the novels.

[Jintor]

So, someone tell me how long until we get moar new things.

I need new things.

[quigonkenny]

So, someone tell me how long until we get moar new things.

I need new things.
Well all you have to do is read back a page or so and...oh yeah.

My speculation for this season, since I haven't posted it yet (although I think it's more or less identical to one of the others):

1. Melancholy I 4/2/09
2. Melancholy II 4/9/09
3. Melancholy III 4/16/09
4. Melancholy IV 4/23/09
5. Melancholy V 4/30/09
6. Melancholy VI 5/7/09
7. Boredom 5/14/09
8. Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody 5/21/09
9. Mysterique Sign 5/28/09
10. Remote Island Syndrome I 6/4/09
11. Remote Island Syndrome II 6/11/09
12. Endless Eight 6/18/09
13. Sigh I 6/25/09
14. Sigh II 7/2/09
15. Sigh III 7/9/09
16. Sigh IV 7/16/09
17. Asahina Mikuru's Adventure 00 7/23/09
18. Live A Live 7/30/09
19. The Day of Sagittarius 8/6/09
20. Someday in the Rain 8/13/09
21. Disappearance I 8/20/09
22. Disappearance II 8/27/09
23. Disappearance III 9/3/09
24. Disappearance IV 9/10/09
25. Disappearance V 9/17/09
26. Charmed at First Sight LOVER 9/24/09
27. Snow Mountain Syndrome 10/1/09
28. Where Did the Cat Go? 10/8/09

New episodes are in bitalics, and already aired episodes (to date) are crossed out.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Really think they can do Snow Mountain in one episode?

[quigonkenny]

Really think they can do Snow Mountain in one episode?
I hope they can. It's the only way I can see them fitting "Charmed at First Sight" in unless they shorten either Sigh or Disappearance (frankly, Disappearance could fit into four episodes easier than Sigh could into three). Although it would make fitting the Intrigues prologue into NekoDoko easier if the whole snow "thing" was one big three episode amalgam. No way that first half of the prologue is near a full episode, and it fits way better with the end of the snow trip than it does with the rest of the Intrigues prologue, seeing at it occurs immediately after.

[dnab]

According to yet another schedule speculation list being floated about (originated from Japanese bulletins and supposedly leaked from a TV station [implicit disclaimers applied]), the list is more or less the same as above except in episode counts-

3 eps for Sigh
4 eps for Disappearance
2 eps for Snow Mountain
and 1 originally titled episode at #28 (Disappearance Epilogue) that's most likely the prologue of vol.7, some original materials, and/or cliffhanger leading to Intrigues.

I'm personally rooting for this scenario because 1) seems ideal pacewise for each longish stories, and 2) an "original" episode in 09 would run in symmetry with the 06's Someday in the Rain, and who wouldn't want to see some/any new Tanigawa material having deprived for so long. Wishful thinking, yes. Facts, no.

[kb7]

So here's an on-topic question: We have a new ED, which by itself can tell us, if we ever forget, which run each episode in this relaunch came from. But will we get a new OP? Will all of the new episodes forgo an OP?

I think we're not, as I think the change of ED is a cute way of identification, and if they use an OP for any more episodes they'll use the old one. That way will (would?) be more cohesive for the relaunch and tie it all together nicely, I think.

I doubt they will throw away the chance to make more profit with a new OP Single, so it's likely we will have a new one when the next episode comes. :)

[Heatth]

I stil think that "Where Did the Cat Go?" isn't a good episode to end a Season. Naturaly, ending in Disappearance would be the "best" (for dramaticly). Hopefully, this is not going to happen.

The prologue of Intrigues would be better, but then Disappearance or Sigh would have to be shortened.

How do you think would work Disappearence in 4 episodes or Sighs in 3?

For Disappearence would be like this, a suppose:

Disappearence Part I - prologue and chapter 1 and 2 (all short chapters)
Disappearence Part II - chapter 2 and 3 (chapter 3 is very big)
Disappearence Part III - chapter 3 and 4
Disappearence Part IV - chapter 5 and 6 and epilogue (here is where mey be rushed, no OP for this, certainly)

[Kaisos Erranon]

I stil think that "Where Did the Cat Go?" isn't a good episode to end a Season.

The DVD episodes of the original run ended on Someday in the Rain.

Not every finale has to be epic, ya know.

In fact, I think that since "The SOS Brigade doing fun things together" is a core theme behind Haruhi, I'd think that Where Did the Cat Go? is a fine place to end this season.

[Heatth]

But it was a DVD, not the the Broadcast. It is diferent.

The entire point of the original anachronical order was have a epic finale.

[Kaisos Erranon]

But it was a DVD, not the the Broadcast. It is diferent.

The entire point of the original anachronical order was have a epic finale.

But this is chronological order. It's not going to have an epic finale.

[Heatth]

I agree. But the can have a finale that is a finish.

The Intrigues's prologue wouldn't be a epic finale, but would end the Disappearence story at last.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yeah, they could definitely do that.

[prnoct90]

I mean, I haven't read the novels, but what about The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina? I always figured that would be the last episode.

[Heatth]

"The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" is like a prelude to volume 7. It doesn't fit on this season as well as the actual prolugue of Intrigues. Sound weird, but is true.

[quigonkenny]

The way I thought I'd do it is this:
Have the lion's share of the first half of the Intrigues prologue during the last episode of Disappearance. When alter!Ryoko stabs Kyon(D) and he starts getting fuzzy as to what he sees, continue up until the point where we get a hint at seeing Kyon(I), and cut for commercial. When we come back, we're centered on Kyon(I), Yuki(I), and Mikuru(small) as they pop in from the future, and then we run through the in-the-past events of the Intrigues prologue from the point of view of Kyon(I), up to the point where he goes back cuttting probably at the Mikuru(big) line where she says "Fufu, maybe I'll let you kiss me." Then we quick-cut to Kyon(D) waking up in the hospital bed and finish Disappearance normally, adding a line establishing that this Kyon doesn't remember anything from before the commercial break if it's not obvious from conversation.

At the end of "Where Did the Cat Go?", we go right into the Intrigues prologue and up to the point where they leave into the past. After the ED, they come back from the past and as a coda to the episode and season, he has his innrer monologue about the "emergency trump card".
At least that's what I thought I wanted to do, but...in reading back over the Intrigues prologue, I realized that as a whole it does fit better at the end of the season. If for no other reason than Yuki's "Because I don't want to" line adds to the perfect ending and link back to Disappearance, as the author intended. I still think we should have the Intrigues prologue end the season, but have it done more or less in the order it was written (with a little overlapping and flipping as necessary), as long as we get that "Because I don't want to" line in the last half of the last episode. I'll let KyoAni work out the details.

[aegisofrime]

Arrrgg. I can't wait until the 18th! I'm really tempted to go and read the Light Novels again, but I'm worried that will spoil the experience. :(

[Heatth]

If you already had read how could you be spoiled? Your experience is already "spoiled", you already know what will happen, this can't be changed, unless you had forgot (but you will remember just before what heppen, anyway).

Don't worry too much. You can't be suprised by the show anymore, but you can enjoy in diferent ways. Looking for easter eggs, pay atention on some details and etcetera.

If you want to read then go read. Sinse you already knows the story you can read only the parts that you like. Leting the remaining the see animated.

Or, if you realy "forget" and don't whant to "spoil" yourself, you can read the chapters as they are being realesed. Reading the BLR, and/or "Mystérique Sign" and "Lone Island Syndrome" by now and then reading "Endless Eight" on 18th, the begining of Sighs on 25th and so on.

[musume_no_hoshi]

If anyone is wondering whether we'll get another opening, Hirano's new single is out at 2009/07/22. Which seems to fit in with the timing of the -so-called-opening.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=LACM-4631

On a personal note, I do think there would be a new opening, just because this single seems to be out at the right time. Hey milking a series is what KyoAni does best.

[aegisofrime]

Frankly, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody is the first ever work of fiction that I read first before seeing an animated adaption. It's not that the Light Novels aren't good... I just think that in some things, visual impact is important.

For example... One scene I can think of that I will rather see animated than read about is...

Yuki smiling :D

And of course, I'm trying very hard to forget about what I read. Without much success, sigh...

[prnoct90]

"The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" is like a prelude to volume 7. It doesn't fit on this season as well as the actual prolugue of Intrigues. Sound weird, but is true.

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?

[Heatth]

I don't think so.

Anyway, the volume 7 happens on February, but the prologue heppens on January, just after "Where Did The Cat Go?".

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

One scene I can think of that I will rather see animated than read about is...

Yuki smiling :D

Only reason I'm looking forward to the Disappearance eps :p

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?

I don't think so.

Anyway, the volume 7 happens on February, but the prologue heppens on anuary, just after "Where Did The Cat Go?".

Yeah, the prologue takes place before Melancholy of Mikuru, which is why most people are expecting them to either include MoM as part of Intrigues or shove the prologue at the end of this 28 episode run.

[quigonkenny]

But if they are going for chronological order, doesn't "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" happen in January, and then Volume 7 doesn't actually start until February? If that's the case, "The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina" would work as a good cliffhanger for a 3rd season right?
Problem is, if we're only getting 28 episodes, and they're staying chronological and not skipping any, they won't be able to get to MoM. It'll make a great first episode for season "two", though, so I'm perfectly fine with it.

[Ithekro]

I wonder if they would reuse the "Adventures of Mikuru Episode 00" OP for all of Sighs with the new ED? Then give us the new OP for Dissapearance and beyond (with Endless Eight not having an OP).

[Heatth]

Lol That would be funny.

However, the "Koi no Mikuru" OP is so bad that may be tiring for 3~4 episodes.

Besides, the new Hirano Aya single, with Tomare! and, supposedly, the OP isn't going to be relesed 07/22? The new OP must be airing before then.

Is a nice idea, tought.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

the "Koi no Mikuru" OP is so bad that may be tiring for 3~4 episodes.

Says you. That OP was awesome. :p

[Heatth]

Agree. But is bad to.

Is good for one, me two, episodes but would become tiring after that. Besides, only true fans appreciate it. Casual viewers would find only silly. I "knows" people that give up the "first" episode (00) bacause of the OP. It back after someone explain the joke (and is easy understand after the first 5-10 minutes). But if a random viewer see that OP and then a normal episode, might dive up as well.

It is good to the movie episode, but not to a normal one.

EDIT:
I speak too much unnecessarily didn't I?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Screw the casual viewers. If they can't appreciate art, then they're not worthy of the series. :heh:

[SealkidHaruhiism]

Is there going to be a movie for haruhi Suzumiya!

[wittyusername]

Is there going to be a movie for haruhi Suzumiya!

Doubt it.

Also, that was a wonderful and eloquent way to phrase a question.

[stubby42]

I'm confused, are the dates listed on the wiki page wrong? because some of the new episodes are listed in april and early may but they havent been released yet have they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes#The_Melancholy_of _Haruhi_Suzumiya_.282009_version.29

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'm confused, are the dates listed on the wiki page wrong? because some of the new episodes are listed in april and early may but they havent been released yet have they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes#The_Melancholy_of _Haruhi_Suzumiya_.282009_version.29

Read the paragraph above the list.

[Peanutbutter003]

I felt that Snow Mountain Syndrome is one of the best stories in the game. I recalled feeling the tension while reading it and I couldn't stop until I finished the whole thing.

To put everything in one episode doesn't really do justice to it. Two would be better, something like:

Part I: 1st half - All the talk in the SOS-Dan room about holidays and snow resorts. 2nd half - Going out to ski. Ends with getting lost and seeing the mansion.

Part 2: 1st half - Exploring the place. Ends with Yuki fainting.
2nd half - Getting back to the resort.

I don't quite get the appeal of having Where Did the Cat Go? to end Haruhi 2009. Maybe another anime-original episode will be nice. Or

Foreshadowing of the alternate SOS-Dan?

[Heatth]

Yes, the dates are worng. But not much, only by one day (when is listede 05/01 it is actualy, 04/30). [not realy, see (13 post) below]

See the list again, the only new episode is the episde 08, "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody", aired on May 22, 2009 (actualy May 21).

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (2009 version) includes not only new episodes but old ones to.

Edit:

Part I: 1st half - All the talk in the SOS-Dan room about holidays and snow resorts. 2nd half - Going out to ski. Ends with getting lost and seeing the mansion.

Part 2: 1st half - Exploring the place. Ends with Yuki fainting.
2nd half - Getting back to the resort.


In other words, doing the same that they did on Lost Island Syndrome? I agree.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Part I: 1st half - All the talk in the SOS-Dan room about holidays and snow resorts. 2nd half - Going out to ski. Ends with getting lost and seeing the mansion.

Part 2: 1st half - Exploring the place. Ends with Yuki fainting.
2nd half - Getting back to the resort.

Your part one could easily be done in half an episode, just saying. Though I do doubt they could do your part two in half an episode..


I don't quite get the appeal of having Where Did the Cat Go? to end Haruhi 2009.

Go read the story again? It has a similar feel to Someday in the Rain, like I've been saying.

It's just the SOS-dan having fun together. Simple and light, which is what Haruhi does best anyway.

[Heatth]

Go read the story again? It has a similar feel to Someday in the Rain, like I've been saying.

It's just the SOS-dan having fun together. Simple and light, which is what Haruhi does best anyway.

As I said before, a good episode to end a DVD may be not a good episode to end a broadcast. This is why we get a anachronical order in first place.

[wittyusername]

As I said before, a good episode to end a DVD may be not a good episode to end a broadcast. This is why we get a anachronical order in first place.

But episodes are being added into a chronological broadcast, which is pretty much the same as the DVD order. If the episodes were in a messed up order again, maybe it would end on a more climactic note.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

An original episode to end things would be nice. However, Where Did The Cat Go? is fine, too.

[Ithekro]

It would be mildly amusing to end with the Intrigues prologue, then have Kyon start riding his bike home, only to have this gear shift break at the end (leading directly into the Haruhi-chan starting episode).

[Heatth]

But episodes are being added into a chronological broadcast, which is pretty much the same as the DVD order. If the episodes were in a messed up order again, maybe it would end on a more climactic note.

Exept that now they can do a more climactic end following the chronological order: The Intrigues's prologue. It is not as epic as the end of Melancholy but is better than Where Did The Cat Go?.

A finale or is a end or is a cliffhanger.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Exept that now they can do a more climactic end following the chronological order: The Intrigues's prologue. It is not as epic as the end of Melancholy but is better than Where Did The Cat Go?.

What is with everyone hating Where Did the Cat Go? I loved that story.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I don't hate it. Epic Tsuruya+Haruhi pwnage of Koizumi was awesome :p

[wittyusername]

I don't hate it. Epic Tsuruya+Haruhi pwnage of Koizumi was awesome :p

Any owning of Koizumi is awesome. The fact that it was Tsuruya and Haruhi delivering the ownage just made it better.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Hence why I said it was epic pwnage. :p

[Heatth]

What is with everyone hating Where Did the Cat Go? I loved that story.

I don't hate it neither. Is justthat I realy don't like ir as a finale.

However, to tell the truth, this isn't my favorite chapter. Even with the epic pwnage. But I love the conversation between Kyon and Tsuruya. It is a shame that is too short.

[relentlessflame]

Yes, the dates are worng. But not much, only by one day (when is listede 05/01 it is actualy, 04/30).

See the list again, the only new episode is the episde 08, "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody", aired on May 22, 2009 (actualy May 21).By the way, as an FYI, Wikipedia is actually correct. The first airing of the episodes is at what the Japanese TV Schedules refer to as "24:40", which is actually 00:40 (12:40am) on the following day. So, 24:40 on 21 May is actually on the 22nd of May according to the standard way of listing dates/times in English. Just one of those little bits of trivia that's good to know.

[SealkidHaruhiism]

I felt that Snow Mountain Syndrome is one of the best stories in the game. I recalled feeling the tension while reading it

The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is one of my favorite novel!
Cause....


- Yuki finally have emotions
-The SOS Brigade have a Christmas party!


Also Someday in the rain was an OVA ,Maybe?

I think Where did the cat go? should be the ending cause the first season ended up with a bad/good ending

- The bad thing I didn't like was when Yuki keep on reading for 5 or so min.
and she wasn't even talking?
- The good part was when Haruhi and Kyon walking together with 1 umbrella!

[quigonkenny]

By the way, as an FYI, Wikipedia is actually correct. The first airing of the episodes is at what the Japanese TV Schedules refer to as "24:40", which is actually 00:40 (12:40am) on the following day. So, 24:40 on 21 May is actually on the 22nd of May according to the standard way of listing dates/times in English. Just one of those little bits of trivia that's good to know.
And knowing is half the battle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEndeLF-rKc&feature=channel_page) (G~~ I~~ Joe~~~~!)

(I swear to God, if they don't find some way to work that into the upcoming live action movie, I'm going to burn something down...)

Of course, don't forget that 24:40 Thursday night in Japan is Thursday morning in the US and afternoon in Europe, and that is when news, pics, and reviews of any new episodes (and other stuff relating to new episodes) would be hitting 2ch and the net in general.

I think that is mostly why we (at least those of us who were aware of the odd time designation) have been using the technically incorrect "Japanese TV Schedule" date as the air date.

[relentlessflame]

Deleted a whole bunch of off-topic posts. Please, guys, let's not start the same thing all over again...

[dragon4dudes]

I had a on topic thought that was part of a largely off topic post... what was it again? Oh, yeah, would that little Christmas party scene in the first ending be shown?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

would that little Christmas party scene in the first ending be shown?

I think the novel basically just skimmed over the actual party...

[quigonkenny]

I think the novel basically just skimmed over the actual party...
The party occurs as a flashback near the start of "Snow Mountain Syndrome", in fair, if comparatively short, detail (it's where they hash out the visit to the titular mountain, going into such topics as Itsuki's announcement of another mystery game and Tsuruya-san's further establishment as having more money than God Bruce Wayne).

And goddamn, but SMS is fracking huge, isn't it? They are going to need two episodes for it... Crap...

[aegisofrime]

SMS was good, yup! Way better than Remote Mountain Syndrome. It would be good if they devoted two episodes to it.

[Kaisos Erranon]

And goddamn, but SMS is fracking huge, isn't it? They are going to need two episodes for it... Crap...

They'll probably cut some of the (frankly) useless monologues from Sighs, or stuff we've 'already' seen in Episode 00 that they don't need to show 'again'.

Sighs CAN be done in three episodes. Don't underestimate KyoAni and their incredible content compression.

SMS was good, yup! Way better than Remote Mountain Syndrome. It would be good if they devoted two episodes to it.

Amusingly, RMS could easily have been done in one episode. I still don't know why they think they needed two for it.

[aegisofrime]

Amusingly, RMS could easily have been done in one episode. I still don't know why they think they needed two for it.

I agree with that. They could have easily done away with the fanservice, like the beach scenes and stuff, and cut straight to the murder investigation.

[Heatth]

Mood Whiplash (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoodWhiplash).

We get a light episode full of fancervise and then a murder just occurs. The episode wouldn't be as entertaining if it cut straight to the mistery.

SMS could be somewhat like that, exept......this time "we"(I mean, casual viewers) would be expecting another plot from Koizumi (especially because they would be talking about this during all episode) when we get a realy dangerous and misterious situation.

[quigonkenny]

SMS was good, yup! Way better than Remote Mountain Syndrome. It would be good if they devoted two episodes to it.
Amusingly, RMS could easily have been done in one episode. I still don't know why they think they needed two for it.
Forum posting in the middle of the night is fu~n...

Make sure you're getting at least some sleep, guys... ^_^

I agree with that. They could have easily done away with the fanservice, like the beach scenes and stuff, and cut straight to the murder investigation.
Bite your tounge, heathen. We like our Mikuru-chan fanservice around here... ^_^

Sighs CAN be done in three episodes. Don't underestimate KyoAni and their incredible content compression.
That's the problem. Four episodes is already trimming it down. It's not like the novel of Volume 2 itself is really all that much shorter than the one for Volume 1, which took six episodes to animate. I don't have both books to compare, obviously, but the Baka-Tsuki pages are 119 and 128 "page-downs" in length, respectively (a highly approximate and unscientific method that nonetheless gives a good comparative ratio assuming both are loaded into the same width window, which they were). And Volume 1 has all that space-killing formatting at the end to accomodate the >YUKI.N dialogues...

Aggh... This is going to bug me until they actually animate both novels and we get an idea where we'll be ending up... Now watch them throw an anime-original episode or two in there to really frak with us...

[spawnofthejudge]

Now watch them throw an anime-original episode or two in there to really frak with us...This is both likely and something I want greatly.

[quigonkenny]

Mood Whiplash (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoodWhiplash).

We get a light episode full of fancervise and then a murder just occurs. The episode wouldn't be as entertaining if it cut straight to the mistery.

SMS could be somewhat like that, exept......this time "we"(I mean, casual viewers) would be expecting another plot from Koizumi (especially because they would be talking about this during all episode) when we get a realy dangerous and misterious situation.
That has given me an idea. If they're going to go for the mood whiplash, why don't they rearrange things to make it accentuate that a bit better, by having "Where Did the Cat Go?" before the meat and potatoes of "Snow Mountain Syndrome?" It's not like the order really means anything, since while they both take place in the same place, they are fairly unrelated, and there is no explicit causal relationship between them.

Let's say we start out with the SMS flashback (to the hotpot party) where the trip itself is set up. Then, with a bit of establishing the group travelling to the mountain, we get into NekoDoko? immediately. Finish that up right before the end of the first episode, then after the ED, it's BAM, snowstorm, cliffhanger. Use the entire next episode and part of the one after for SMS (starting a ways back when they leave Imouto with Tsuruya-san), then give us the Intrigues prologue as a season ending Disappearance coda for that second half of the last episode.I know this doesn't fix the "still gonna have to trim Sigh or Disappearance" issue, but it does better allow an Intrigues prologue end, which allows for an uninterrupted "Melancholy of Asahina Mikuru"/Intrigues start to the next season (which we want, yes?), and in a way helps allow for some compression of Disappearance. Thoughts?

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Bite your tounge, heathen. We like our Mikuru-chan fanservice around here... ^_^

Said fanservice is the main reason I don't like Mikuru... Though I agree that it's good they didn't cut the "useless" parts, as I liked some of the particularly absurd places Nagato was reading :heh:

If they're going to go for the mood whiplash, why don't they rearrange things to make it accentuate that a bit better, by having "Where Did the Cat Go?" before the meat and potatoes of "Snow Mountain Syndrome?" It's not like the order really means anything, since while they both take place in the same place, they are fairly unrelated, and there is no explicit causal relationship between them.

The mystery was stated to be the end of the trip, and the way Haruhi acted towards Nagato was a direct result of SMS.

[Kaisos Erranon]

That's the problem. Four episodes is already trimming it down. It's not like the novel of Volume 2 itself is really all that much shorter than the one for Volume 1, which took six episodes to animate. I don't have both books to compare, obviously, but the Baka-Tsuki pages are 119 and 128 "page-downs" in length, respectively (a highly approximate and unscientific method that nonetheless gives a good comparative ratio assuming both are loaded into the same width window, which they were). And Volume 1 has all that space-killing formatting at the end to accomodate the >YUKI.N dialogues...

B-T is down right so I can't check, but that book always FELT shorter to me for some reason.

Like, as though a lot less happens than Vol. 1.

When the site goes back up I'll flip through the book again and give you some idea of how they might do it.

[quigonkenny]

The mystery was stated to be the end of the trip, and the way Haruhi acted towards Nagato was a direct result of SMS.
I remembered the former, but that in itself doesn't affect the story and can be ignored. If it betters the broadcast and doesn't hurt anything, then switch it around and let the nitpickers pick all they want.

The latter, however, is important. As Kaisos noted, B-T is down and also I have no access to my saved copies. Mind posting some details, or PMing me?

[Heatth]

A have the books on PDF here. The Melancholy has 150 pg and the Sighs 131.

Yes, the Sighs isn't so shorter than Melancholy. However, a think that it has a slow pace. They talk a lot on this book.

By the end of the chapter 2 (of 5) the had only filmed the commercial and no other plot other then Haruhi pulling then around. On chapter 3 thinks began to happen, Mikuru shots the lazer. Chapter 4 is more filming, more talking and "Mikuru is my toy.". Chapter 5 is when Haruhi's powers goes definetly out of control (talking cat, wrong season flowers...), the emergency Brigade (minus Haruhi) reunion and the solution (it is all
fiction)

Not too much actualy happens (and almost all on the last chapter), but there is a lot talking and explanation. However, that talking is very important to explain Haruhi's powers. Is kinda hard to figure out how much screentime the talking uses.

[Sackett]

SMS is huge, isn't it? They are going to need two episodes for it... Crap...

Why not 1.5 episodes.

Combine the set up for Snow Mountain (arrival, unpacking, going out to play) with Love at First Sight which really doesn't need a whole episode.

Then have the true story of Snow Mountain be it's own episode.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Combine the set up for Snow Mountain (arrival, unpacking, going out to play) with Love at First Sight which really doesn't need a whole episode.

Uh, yeah, yeah it does. It's slow, yet there's a fair bit of stuff going on.

[quigonkenny]

Why not 1.5 episodes.

Combine the set up for Snow Mountain (arrival, unpacking, going out to play) with Love at First Sight which really doesn't need a whole episode.

Then have the true story of Snow Mountain be it's own episode.
Uh, yeah, yeah it does. It's slow, yet there's a fair bit of stuff going on.
Yeah, he's right. It's actually the longest chapter in Volume 6. In the amount of space it takes up, it's actually quite a bit larger than "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody", which barely fit into a single episode. "Charmed at First Sight LOVER" should be a lot easier to compress, though I imagine it may also be sans-OP due to time constraints.

A lot of that time will be saved by letting Sugita do his rapid fire Kyon thing. IIRC, it's a Kyon dialogue (and "monologue") heavy chapter.

[Jintor]

Oh yeah, I hadn't seen Kyonmonologue for a while and rewatched the first episode. Sugita sure speaks fast.

[velocity7]

Thought I'd give a heads up:

Haruhi Season 2 is in HD (http://naomi.thewafflehouse.net/blog/2009/06/09/haruhi-season-2-is-in-hd/)

[quigonkenny]

Oh yeah, I hadn't seen Kyonmonologue for a while and rewatched the first episode. Sugita sure speaks fast.
Oh yeah. I just reread it and it will fit into a single episode, but it will need to have some massive use of the rapid fire Kyonspeak, and there most likely won't be time for an OP.

This has also made me realize that the hotpot party flashback in SMS will need to stay a flashback. That actual event happens before CAFSLOVER, but the rest of SMS happens a few days after. If they stay chronological, it'll have to be a flashback.

Forgot how much the end of this chapter points back to Disappearance. Also Noizi Ito's hoodie!Yuki is hot... ^_^

And looking over WDTCG? again, the Yuki references pointing back to SMS are only at the start of the chapter, and serve (in terms of plot progression) only to move up the time of the murder mystery. Assuming a reasonable replacement reason is given to perform the same plot function, I'd be willing to give up the one-off (for this chapter) show of concern for Yuki by Haruhi if it gets us a more broadcast friendly SMSa/WDTHCG?/SMSb/7Prologue order (plenty of opportunities to bump up Haruhi's performance in SMS later to display her concern for Yuki).Thought I'd give a heads up:

Haruhi Season 2 is in HD (http://naomi.thewafflehouse.net/blog/2009/06/09/haruhi-season-2-is-in-hd/)
Weird article... Haruhi "S2" is made in HD but not broadcast in it? That 720p RAW of BLR certainly didn't look like an upscale of the 480p version...

[Tokkan]

Weird article... Haruhi "S2" is made in HD but not broadcast in it?

First season of Code Geass was animated in HD but was not broadcast in it.

[aegisofrime]

Wasn't the 720p RAW broadcasted? If not, where did that come from?

[bayoab]

Wasn't the 720p RAW broadcasted? If not, where did that come from?
Broadcaster upscales.
Also, Studio Gong? Isn't that an audio production company?

[velocity7]

Broadcaster upscales.
Also, Studio Gong? Isn't that an audio production company?

Seems so, but it looks like they've taken on greener pastures. :heh:

[Kaisos Erranon]

When the site goes back up I'll flip through the book again and give you some idea of how they might do it.

Right, so, I flipped through the book a bit, looking for places to end the Sighs episodes on...

They could compress the Prologue and Chapters 1 and 2 together, and Chapters 3 and 4. They'd HAVE to end at least one episode on Chapter 4 anyway, it's too good of a cliffhanger-ish to not end on.

That leaves Chapter 5 and the Epilogue for one episode... they could probably move some of the content of Koizumi's long, drawn out monologues here to fill up time, I guess.

The epilogue coincides with the beginning of Live Alive, interestingly.

[relentlessflame]

Thought I'd give a heads up:

Haruhi Season 2 is in HD (http://naomi.thewafflehouse.net/blog/2009/06/09/haruhi-season-2-is-in-hd/)I commented on the blog post as well, but there's more to the story. Everything Kyoto Animation has done from Kanon on has been produced in HD, even if it wasn't broadcast or released in that format. I'm thinking maybe they've just redefined the roles and the way they credit a bit.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Okay, so I wasn't going to watch the rebroadcast, much as I liked this show the first time through -- or really the first few times, since I watched each episode several times in 2006.

But then I saw the first new episode, ep8, and fell in love with this show all over again. I just watched episode one (as rebroadcast) and was totally bowled over. Here's a standard to judge a lot of other shows against: great drawing and animation, vivid colors, great voice-acting (especially Sugita Tomokazu as Kyon, but Hirano Aya, too), an interesting story, some psychological depth, good comedy, and a lot of jovial weirdness. The good wide-screen image doesn't hurt, either.

I was a big defender of the non-chronological way they showed the episodes the first time round. But this is great, too: a real straightforward introduction to this far from straightforward situation. Having just seen Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody (ep8), I got a lovely shiver when Haruhi asked Kyon if she had met him before. That was buried in this ep1 for three years, until we saw how they met before in the new episode. Great stuff.

[BASS in SPACE]

I don't know where to post this after the splitting of threads, so if this is the wrong place, sorry mods. I have been keeping up with the threads on and off for about a year (more frequently recently of course) but cannot remember when this scene takes place chronologically, so the speculation that is all over the place in these threads doesn't really help me in terms of placing it. Can anyone tell me the likelihood of this scene/episode being animated?

Where Kyon and Haruhi argue over Mikuru. Haruhi wanted to get her drunk to do... Something, I can't even remember what. I'm pretty sure it was to make the movie...? Anyway then Kyon and Haruhi have a huge argument which culminates in Kyon almost slapping Haruhi.

Any help would be appreciated. It's been a looong time since I last read any of the novels, so yeah, sorry. If memory serves me correctly, this happened before both the Disappearance and Sighs arc, so I'm guessing it's not very likely huh...

[Heatth]

Very likely.

It is from volume 2, Sighs. Almost everyone agree that this book is going to be animated.

Anything that happened before Disappearance and/or Sighs is likely to be animated. They are going by chronological order and Disappearance is probably the main story this time. (Sighs happens before Disappearance, BTW)

[BASS in SPACE]

Ah, thanks for the help.

[M.Marangio]

The 10th episode (Lone Island Syndrome I) is streamed on Kadokawa's YouTube channel.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C86RzLHhmr4

ETA: The 11th episode, Lone Island Syndrome II, aired today in Japan (June 11, 24:40, i.e., June 12, 00:40).

The next episode should be a new episode if the chronological order is kept.

[Ace Paladin]

I'm so excited. <333

I love this series.

[relentlessflame]

Did I really have to spell out, yet again, NO future event spoilers in this thread. This is the same rule that we have in all AnimeSuki threads except those especially marked, as it states in the Spoiler Policy (http://forums.animesuki.com/faq.php?faq=animesuki_faq#faq_spoilerpolicy). Asking a direct question (in spoiler tags) and giving a direct answer is okay (barely), but for discussion about the novels, please go to an appropriate thread. Not in the General Discussion thread for the anime.

Inappropriate spoilers are not welcome here at AnimeSuki Forums. A spoiler is anything that discloses an event, character, plot or other information before it is revealed within the specific work being discussed. Any post containing spoilers may be deleted in its entirety and an infraction will be issued to the poster. Repeated violations of this rule will lead to a ban.

[Heatth]

Couldn't you just edit the posts, puting then in the spoiler tag? Or move then? Is a pain just lose all discussion.

Well, sorry for that anyway.

So, all novel adaptation speculation should go there (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31035) right? Regardless of being the "True Second Season" or the "Current Season".

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

This is a General Discussion thread. No spoilers allowed, as relentlessflame had just said two posts before yours...

*e* Disregard this, as the post it was in response to was deleted...

[quigonkenny]

Couldn't you just edit the posts, puting then in the spoiler tag? Or move then? Is a pain just lose all discussion.

Well, sorry for that anyway.

So, all novel adaptation speculation should go there (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31035) right? Regardless of being the "True Second Season" or the "Current Season".
Apparently yes, unless it's strictly novel-related (ie: "What are the ramifications of when X happens in Volume 6?" as supposed to "How many episodes do you think they will give to X from Volume 6?"). The strictly novel-related should go in the novel forum, which is much more open since in the novels there are no more "future events" as-of-yet to be "spoiled" (at least until Volume 10 comes out), and thus only "current" info and unfounded speculation (which isn't spoilers).

My impression when this thread was started was that this was going to be a "15-28" discussion thread, including discussion of future "15-28" episodes, especially considering "discussion of future episodes" was what caused the formation of this thread, and its distinction from the "29+" thread, in the first place.

I guess not.

All that's left for this thread then is to be a home for "I love this series <333" posts, "X episode was just posted on YouTube" posts, and "When is the next new episode" posts. In other words, the same kind of crap you'll find on lesser series' "General Discussion" threads. Haruhi fans are (in general) a more inqusitive, cerebral group. So long, 2009 Relaunch thread... We hardly knew ye...

Onward to the "Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions/General Speculation (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31035&page=12)" and Novel (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=30775&page=112) threads, then, fellow spoiler-immune speculative pilgrims. At least until they find a reason to kick us out again...

Yes, could we also put *(Spoilers)* in the thread title since people are going to inevitibly(sp?) discuss spoilers?
Might I suggest that a *(Spoilers)* be added not to this thread, but to "Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions/General Speculation (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31035&page=12)", for the reason Solachinx gives. It shouldn't be necessary, since the thread already has "Speculation" right in the title, and any speculation regarding the adaptation of a published novel series is by definition going to involve future events that for some may be considered spoilers, but it will avoid confusion.

[relentlessflame]

In other words, the same kind of crap you'll find on lesser series' "General Discussion" threads. Haruhi fans are (in general) a more inqusitive, cerebral group.As I'm sure you know, this has absolutely nothing to do with anything. The forum rules are the same everywhere on AnimeSuki. See the excerpt of the spoiler policy posted above. You're not somehow exempt just because you're supposedly "a more inqusitive[sic], cerebral group". People deserve a thread where they can discuss the new episodes without being subjected to a flurry of novel spoiler spam. And if people want to be spoiled on what happens, they can go to the appropriate thread just the same way you can. That way, everyone's happy.

You're more than welcome to contact any member of the forum staff if you have concerns or suggestions about the spoiler/on-topic policy, but in the meantime I would ask that everyone do their best to follow the rules we have.

[Heatth]

Don't need to be so harsh, quigonkenny.

I got the same impression, but I understand that a unawere passer-by that hadn't read the novels would be spoiled.

But, yeah, there a little to disscuss on that tread.

*e* I am stil upset that a entire page was just deleted. It's not possible bring them back? And move to the other tread, of course.

Oh, this thread is not exactaly to discuss the new episodes. Each new one will have their own tread. So this is fated to the "'I love this series <333', 'X episode was just posted on YouTube' and 'When is the next new episode'"

[Solachinx]

*Note: not trying to sound smart, and if I do it's purly incidental* Oh, sorry. I thought you meant "no spoilers out of spoiler tags," not "no spoilers in general; tags or no tags." Sorry! ^^;

[quigonkenny]

You're not somehow exempt just because you're supposedly "a more inqusitive[sic], cerebral group". People deserve a thread where they can discuss the new episodes without being subjected to a flurry of novel spoiler spam.

Haha. Nice "[sic]". LOL

My main problem was that the way I understood it, the whole torpedoing of the "Second Season" thread was to make this the "15-28" speculation thread and the "Future...Speculation" thread would be the "29+" speculation thread, since those were the topics that the former thread was decommissioned because of. It is clear now that this thread is neither and the latter thread is now both (barring novel-only discussion). Whatever. Problem solved. We move on. ^_^

Now a question for the mods I have is "Do we have a 'no spoiler tags needed' thread for Haruhi?" As noted above, there is a higher level of discussion in this forum than say, the Bleach, or Naruto, or even Fullmetal forums, due to the more esoteric nature of the source material, and if nothing else, the fact that it attracts sci-fi nerds such as myself, who love to have long, drawn-out, spoiler-laden discussions about this and that without having to click a "show spoiler" button to see something that everyone in the discussion already is fully aware of (especially when the "show spoiler" button doesn't work on phone browsers). To see how dumb the alternative looks, please hop over and look at the "Future...Speculation" thread's current "discussion" of a certain scene's adaptation from Sigh. My assumption at this point is that spoilers in the Novel thread are kosher, since at this point, with the last novel having been "published" on the internet for nigh-on two years, there isn't anything Haruhi-related that is a spoiler to that thread's posters, but it is not specifically labelled as such.

If we don't currently have a "no spoiler tags needed" thread, please consider this my request for one. I'll even request it in the "requests for new threads" thread just to make it official—if needed. If we do already have a "no spoiler tags needed" thread, please rename it as such so we don't have to have this discussion again (adding a "contains spoilers" to the title, as someone suggested, should be enough of a deterrent to random noobs).

[bayoab]

Newtype's episode listing (http://anime.webnt.jp/program/index.php?pg_page=tv_detail&detail=2471) confirms we are getting >15 episodes.

[Heatth]

Wasnt this already confirmed?

[Ithekro]

It has been this "semi-confirmed" state since the first mention of the 28 episode season from one or two of the channels airing the series. It was never really confirmed by the companies producing the series to my knowledge, even with all the convinient "leaks" and teases of information over the last two years.

It also was the only thing that made any sense at all really. No one hypes a rerun with a full magazine spread and cover story unless it is something amazing that has been though lost (or remastered after some 20 or 30 years). Also there was too many other "hints" going around.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Plus doing it this way let the fans do most of the hyping. Marketing at its finest, people. :p

[bayoab]

Wasnt this already confirmed?

This would be the first official confirmation from Kadokawa themselves, albeit indirectly. Though I'm sure Kadokawa would probably deny everything with a "It's as we said. We never said anything differently."

[Solachinx]

Wait, 15 NEW episodes or 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER?

[aegisofrime]

Wait, 15 NEW episodes or 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER?

Yes, this is the ultra important part. Because 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER equals to Kadakawa epic LOLUZ trolling.

[spawnofthejudge]

Newtype's episode listing (http://anime.webnt.jp/program/index.php?pg_page=tv_detail&detail=2471) confirms we are getting >15 episodes.

Wait, 15 NEW episodes or 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER?

Yes, this is the ultra important part. Because 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER equals to Kadakawa epic LOLUZ trolling.

>15 is equivalent to GREATER THAN FIFTEEN, here. So, all together, but MORE THAN fifteen.

...Except that's not the feeling I get from the site :(

[Solachinx]

>15 is equivalent to GREATER THAN FIFTEEN, here. So, all together, but MORE THAN fifteen.

...Except that's not the feeling I get from the site :(

Ok, because I didn't know if you meant that as an arrow or a greater than sign.

[SealkidHaruhiism]

Newtype's episode listing (http://anime.webnt.jp/program/index.php?pg_page=tv_detail&detail=2471) confirms we are getting >15 episodes.

TROLL

28 episodes were already confirmed!

They will add more to it later on....

They announce it 2007 and 2008 that Season 2 was canceled and they were going to remake Haruhi.

Haruhi Suzumiya is having 28 episodes not 15....
Now you know...

next time read it carefully
or something!

[Solais]

Wow, he announces it beforehand, that his post is a Troll. Just wow.

Btw, if there would be only 15 episodes... naah, it's just too stupid to be true. Really.

[bayoab]

Wait, 15 NEW episodes or 15 episodes ALL TOGETHER?
They always mark the last episode as "Final episode" so having episode 15 numbered means that there are 16 or more episodes essentially officially confirming the 28 episode count (since Kadokawa publishes Newtype and the website). They did still troll and just put "Subtitle TBA" though. :p

[spawnofthejudge]

They always mark the last episode as "Final episode" so having episode 15 numbered means that there are 16 or more episodes essentially officially confirming the 28 episode count (since Kadokawa publishes Newtype and the website). They did still troll and just put "Subtitle TBA" though. :pThis is a good point, and one I hadn't thought of. I'm fully with you now.

[Solachinx]

Because on the internet people have also used it as an arrow symbol, and the way he/she wrote it looks like a arrow symbol. I figured it was a greater-than symbol, but I just wanted to make sure.

[dragon4dudes]

With Kadokawa and Haruhi, do we really know what's a troll or not anymore? We have had three years of trolling so the 15/28 episodes could well be trolls themselves, which isn't a stroll through the meadow.

Wow, that was cynical for me...

[spawnofthejudge]

With Kadokawa and Haruhi, do we really know what's a troll or not anymore? We have had three years of trolling so the 15/28 episodes could well be trolls themselves, which isn't a stroll through the meadow.

Wow, that was cynical for me...

So you think it's just one new episode?

[dragon4dudes]

I don't know what to think anymore!

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Hooray, another week of people being in despair! :heh:

[Ithekro]

Best to stop overthinking about it and just expect there to be an episode next week. What episode it will be will be whatever you see.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Don't ruin my precious despair watching... I need it to survive :heh:

[Sute443]

Don't ruin my precious despair watching... I need it to survive :heh:

So what will you do when more new episodes are confirmed (i.e.: sitting on our hard drives)? Go troll the FMP fans?

[Kaisos Erranon]

So what will you do when more new episodes are confirmed (i.e.: sitting on our hard drives)? Go troll the FMP fans?

Since it's unlikely they'll get new material until Gatou actually gets off his ass and finishes the books, that sounds like an excellent idea.

Also the 28-episode run has been all but confirmed. Stop worrying.

[quigonkenny]

Since it's unlikely they'll get new material until Gatou actually gets off his ass and finishes the books, that sounds like an excellent idea.

Also the 28-episode run has been all but confirmed. Stop worrying.
There are 10 full length novels and 10 short story novel collections (similar to Haruhi volumes 3, 5, 6, and 8) in the FMP! series. Only 4 of the full length novels (for the first series and The Second Raid) and part of the short story novels (for Fumoffu) have been adapted. There's plenty of FMP! left to be animated, even without the next full length novel (said by the author to be the "climax" of the series). At the current rate of release, we'll run out of new Haruhi to animate well before we run out of FMP!.

Anyway, new episode next week. Should be "Endless Eight". Then Sigh.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Hooray! My computer will be hating me for the next month or so :heh:

[LumpOfCole]

Mm, shouldn't the new episode start any day now? :)

I'm a bit confused on the schedule still. Would someone mind posting the dates in which new episodes are said to start, so I can shove them in my iPhone calendar and have it alert me?

[Ithekro]

Thursday, midday for you. (Very early Friday morning in Japan).

[Heatth]

Mm, shouldn't the new episode start any day now? :)

I'm a bit confused on the schedule still. Would someone mind posting the dates in which new episodes are said to start, so I can shove them in my iPhone calendar and have it alert me?

This (http://haruhi.tv/schedule.html) is the schedule on the official Haruhi Site. 25:00 stand for 01:00 am. Is aired first on Friday (Japan)/Thursday (America).

If you are on Florida (it is what FL stand for right?) it should be airing at 10:40 am)

[ReneeBurossamu]

So in two days (in the US) we'll have Endless Eight, correct? YESSSSSS.

... should trust those websites that give you live Japanese TV if you download?

[LumpOfCole]

So, in a rhetorical world where there are no legal issues, I can be watching the new ep on my iPhone as its swan song as I stand in line early Friday morning American time in line for the new iPhone. Mwahaha.

[Heatth]

So in two days (in the US) we'll have Endless Eight, correct? YESSSSSS.

... should trust those websites that give you live Japanese TV if you download?

You know that two days are two days anywhere didn't you? Anyway, from the time I am posting now (04:00 greenwith), we will having a Haruhi episode that is probably new and probably the Endless Eight. We can sitil having The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru Episode 00, tought.

About the websites, it works with me a month ago. Justin.tv if I am not mistake.

So, in a rhetorical world where there are no legal issues, I can be watching the new ep on my iPhone as its swan song as I stand in line early Friday morning American time in line for the new iPhone. Mwahaha.

No. Early Thursday morning. very early Friday (or late Thursday) is on Japan.

[Sute443]

No. Early Thursday morning. very early Friday (or late Thursday) is on Japan.

I believe that in the rhetorical world LumpOfCole was referring to, time for the episode to be subtitled was taken into account. Not everyone likes to watch episodes raw, but subs would presumably be ready by Friday.

And yes, that place does stream live from Japan.

[quigonkenny]

Mm, shouldn't the new episode start any day now? :)

I'm a bit confused on the schedule still. Would someone mind posting the dates in which new episodes are said to start, so I can shove them in my iPhone calendar and have it alert me?
This (http://haruhi.tv/schedule.html) is the schedule on the official Haruhi Site. 25:00 stand for 01:00 am. Is aired first on Friday (Japan)/Thursday (America).

If you are on Florida (it is what FL stand for right?) it should be airing at 10:40 am)
Actually, it should be at 11:40 am Thursday morning in Florida. "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" was aired at 10:40 am for me, one time zone over from Florida and its Eastern time zone, and should be, barring schedule changes, until the end of the 28-episode airing.

I believe that in the rhetorical world LumpOfCole was referring to, time for the episode to be subtitled was taken into account. Not everyone likes to watch episodes raw, but subs would presumably be ready by Friday.
And then there are those of us who have read the B-T translations enough times (and recently) that there isn't any real need for subtitles, like when I watched BLR on Justin.tv.

[Dakota]

So, in a rhetorical world where there are no legal issues, I can be watching the new ep on my iPhone as its swan song as I stand in line early Friday morning American time in line for the new iPhone. Mwahaha.

Lame. I'm going to hack my DSi and watch new eps on that.

The problem is I don't know how to hack a DSi. Or how to create the proper applications. One day...

[Heatth]

Actually, it should be at 11:40 am Thursday morning in Florida. "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" was aired at 10:40 am for me, one time zone over from Florida and its Eastern time zone, and should be, barring schedule changes, until the end of the 28-episode airing.

Florida's time zone is UTC-05. Japan's is UTC+09. 9+5=14. 24-14=10. Japan at 24:40 is Florida at 10:40.

Oh, wait, is already summer in U.S. right? With the summer time 10:40 turns into 11:40. So we both are correct. Thanks for the correction. :)

[quigonkenny]

Florida's time zone is UTC-05. Japan's is UTC+09. 9+5=14. 24-14=10. Japan at 24:40 is Florida at 10:40.

Oh, wait, is already summer in U.S. right? With the summer time 10:40 turns into 11:40. So we both are correct. Thanks for the correction. :)
I hope you enjoy what will undoubtably be a successful career in politics... ^_^

[Driger]

http://tv.so-net.ne.jp/schedule/104144200906230130.action
【総作画監督】西屋太志

[M.Marangio]

http://tv.so-net.ne.jp/schedule/104144200906230130.action
【総作画監督】西屋太志
They omitted the episode title, but kept Futoshi Nishiya in the staff (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-06/staff-for-renewed-airing-of-haruhi-suzumiya-announced).
:D

[LumpOfCole]

Can I have the dates that the new eps will air in English please? :cool:

[Dakota]

They omitted the episode title, but kept Futoshi Nishiya in the staff (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-06/staff-for-renewed-airing-of-haruhi-suzumiya-announced).
:D

They're not as good at lying to us anymore.

"lol jk guyz you only get bamboo leaf rhapsody lolz lolz ... ... ..."

[M.Marangio]

Can I have the dates that the new eps will air in English please? :cool:

Well, I use this japanese page:
http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/1639
You can see in the first column the day, in the second the local time (with delays in red), in the third the channel and in the fourth episode number and title.

The green entries air today.

Btw., episode #11 is available on Kadokawa's YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f7bXpPIRGk

The next episode, #12, airs June 18 on Sun TV at 24:40 (local time).

[Solachinx]

Less than 24 hours from now, either Endless Eight or Episode 00 will air.

[Peanutbutter003]

Less than 24 hours from now, either Endless Eight or Episode 00 will air.

Not 00, I hope.

[Jill-Jênn]

Apparently, we'll be able to watch it at the same place than the first episode.
But isn't it a bit spoiling to watch an episode without the subtitles? :/

[Heatth]

Yes it is.

However, many people already read the novels. So already knew what is the story and can anderstand the episode even without subtitles.

Who have not read it yet should wait one more day for subtitles, if don't waint to spoil itself.

[Jill-Jênn]

Who have not read it yet should wait one more day for subtitles, if don't waint to spoil itself.For the first episode, I think subtitles were released the very same day.

[Ithekro]

Considering how many of the subbers known the novels backwards and forwards, that isn't surprising. Also they want to sub it...badly. Assuming they don't have to spend a lot of time subbing a new OP, they'll have it out in less than 20 hours....if not 12.

[Solachinx]

Considering how many of the subbers known the novels backwards and forwards, that isn't surprising. Also they want to sub it...badly. Assuming they don't have to spend a lot of time subbing a new OP, they'll have it out in less than 20 hours....if not 12.

I wouldn't think so, E8 is kind of a big chapter.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I wouldn't think so, E8 is kind of a big chapter.

...And each episode is 22 minutes long...

E8 isn't THAT big. It's about the same size as Day of Sagittarius, and they'll probably cut down most of the stuff they do into a montage.

[jedi423]

I wouldn't think so, E8 is kind of a big chapter.

Big chapter yes, but the episode will still only be about 22 minutes long, so it shouldn't take any longer than any other.

[quigonkenny]

Can I have the dates that the new eps will air in English please? :cool:
Assuming you mean "air in English" as opposed to "have the dates...in English", the simple answer is they won't be airing in English. Unlike the way Kadokawa had Haruhi-chan and Nyoro~n on Youtube, or Funimation has FMA:B on their own site, the Haruhi episodes won't get official subtitles until someone puts out some English-language DVDs/Blu-Rays.

That said, as noted above, subtitled versions will be fast and plentiful, assuming you know where to look.

I wouldn't think so, E8 is kind of a big chapter.
Big chapter yes, but the episode will still only be about 22 minutes long, so it shouldn't take any longer than any other.
He means that with E8 they're probably going to forego an OP, much like as with BLR.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Also, I somehow doubt we'll have a new OP until Disappearance.

[Dakota]

Also, I somehow doubt we'll have a new OP until Disappearance.

I think we might get one when the Sighs roll around. But knowing this series, we'll never know what we'll get in advance.

[Ithekro]

I still want the Mikuru movie OP for Sighs. Its bad, but it is a funny kind of bad.

[bayoab]

...And each episode is 22 minutes long...

E8 isn't THAT big. It's about the same size as Day of Sagittarius, and they'll probably cut down most of the stuff they do into a montage.
They actually have a decent amount of flexibility with episode times. They can do anywhere between 22 and 24.5 minutes for the episode. Ep 8 was 23:30 ish and they can always integrate the ending if they need more time.

[Heatth]

They actually have a decent amount of flexibility with episode times. They can do anywhere between 22 and 24.5 minutes for the episode. Ep 7 was 23:30 ish and they can always integrate the ending if they need more time.

Ep 7 was a End of Season episode. It is a special case. It is not like they are doing this for any random episode. Endless Eight is cool, but not that important.

It would be cool if we only get a new OP on Disappearance (then it would be only with the "other" cast). But I realy don't think they are going to have all Sighs episodes without a OP. And, even tough is funny for one episode, I don't know if would be a good idea using the Mikuru's OP for 4 or more episodes in a row. Fans would like, but many casual viewers would not (Not everybody can understand that is a joke).

*e*My mistake, episode 6 is the Season End. Anyway, episode 7 is just a regular 22 min episode.

[Ithekro]

Have "Taniguchi" sing it then. :)

[Heatth]

You mean Shirashi Minoru no Bouken? That would be awesome. :D:D:D

It is not hapening, tough. A pity. :p

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

And, even tough is funny for one episode, I don't know if would be a good idea using the Mikuru's OP for 4 or more episodes in a row. Fans would like, but many casual viewers would not (Not everybody can understand that is a joke).

Here's an idea; how about if KyoAni remade the Mikuru OP as Haruhi imagined it? You know, with proper music, singing in tune, proper lighting and choreography.

That's what I would do.:D

[LumpOfCole]

Or a live action Mikuru OP.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Here's an idea; how about if KyoAni remade the Mikuru OP as Haruhi imagined it? You know, with proper music, singing in tune, proper lighting and choreography.

That's what I would do.:D

I really don't think Yuko Goto is capable of singing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMQz739UOs) in tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTFzsoumgg&feature=PlayList&p=A83DF16F69D8095C&index=1).

Good idea though.

[Kaioshin Sama]

I really don't think Yuko Goto is capable of singing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMQz739UOs) in tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTFzsoumgg&feature=PlayList&p=A83DF16F69D8095C&index=1).

Good idea though.

The second one. I love how bitchy Nirvana fans get on youtube comments. :heh: That alone makes it worth it's existence.

[typhonsentra]

Day of Sagittarius is longer than Endless Eight, they can fit it fine.

[bayoab]

Ep 7 was a End of Season episode. It is a special case. It is not like they are doing this for any random episode. Endless Eight is cool, but not that important.

*e*My mistake, episode 6 is the Season End. Anyway, episode 7 is just a regular 22 min episode.
Err... whoops. Meant ep 8 (BLR).

[Heatth]

Err... whoops. Meant ep 8 (BLR).

Oh. They only cut the OP. And the ending is short. It seems the most here agree that the Endless Eight might be like that. I only think that they are not cuting the ending unless it is a very special ocasion (like the original Season End).

So, yeah, it might be 23 min long.

However, it is important notice that BLR is a very important episode, being hard to cut any scene. EE is not.

[Vexx]

They should have titled this thread: "Dance My Little Fan Puppets!!! Dance!!!" :P

[CrowKenobi]

If we get a "new" episode, how about we do the mods a favor and not link to, or mention where to view the new episode... :D

:cool:

[Heatth]

Humh? Why not? Can we consider this new exibition as licensed? I am not shure about how the law works on this ocasion. It is not exactaly a sequel, but is not the the same show neither.

[quigonkenny]

Here's an idea; how about if KyoAni remade the Mikuru OP as Haruhi imagined it? You know, with proper music, singing in tune, proper lighting and choreography.

That's what I would do.:D
I've got a better idea. How about if KyoAni remade all of "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00" as Haruhi imagined it? With proper singing in the OP, John Woo style battles between Mikuru and Yuki, long distance effects shots of the Mikuru beam laying out devastation similar to Ramiel from NGE (the world's most badass octahedron). And probably a Mikuru/Itsuki sex scene, much to Kyon's chagrin...

[Ithekro]

To do that they would need to make the script to be able to stand on its own without a narrator for the most part.

[Heatth]

Yeah. And that would be horrible. The movie as Haruhi imagine is not good at all, even with good acting and efects. It would be only a good played bad movie. It would stil be bad, tough. But not funny anymore.

[CrowKenobi]

Humh? Why not? Can we consider this new exibition as licensed? I am not shure about how the law works on this ocasion. It is not exactaly a sequel, but is not the the same show neither.It's not whether or not it's "licensed," but it is against the rules (http://forums.animesuki.com/faq.php?faq=rules#faq_rules_1_1) around here. :D

:cool:

...and Klash read us the riot act (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2408594#post2408594) after BLR premiered... :uhoh:

[Heatth]

Oh. But the fansubs would be OK then?

Anyway, sorry for that.

[quigonkenny]

Oh. But the fansubs would be OK then?
Fansubs are a gray area until these episodes are officially licensed, which if history holds from the previous episodes, will probably be a little after the last new episode. Kadokawa isn't going to waste all that effort having us self-promote their "rerun" only to cut off the portion of their "advertising workforce" that has been shown to be amenable to paying KadoUSA top dollar for licensed DVDs. This isn't C&D-happy Funimation.

RAWs, however, after reading over the rules again, are expressly verboten. That most likely includes streams. But it's not like it's impossible to find in these forums the information on where streams can be seen (more or less) live.

[Ithekro]

Usually I see someone say that fansubs are out, and maybe a group name, but no linking.

[Vexx]

Just check the www.animesuki.com (http://www.animesuki.com) main page (where AS lists torrents, eh?) ... if you see a series listed, we're considering it *unlicensed*.
Also typically, the first post in a thread or one of the subforum stickies will notify you if a series is licensed.

(SHnY 2009 new puppies) -> http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1448.html

As you can see via the link, AS is considering the SPECIFICALLY NEW episodes of SHnY unlicensed until someone notifies them otherwise.

RAW links or "where-to-get" info are always "verboten" and always have been, read the forum rules (http://forums.animesuki.com/faq.php?faq=rules). Fansubs are a-ok IF they are unlicensed.
A decision was made to change the stance on MFI titles recently, reading up on that wouldn't hurt - heck, reading the whole FAQ (http://forums.animesuki.com/faq.php) is a Good Idea.

(but really... it took me all of five minutes the first time I went looking for raws to find them... if you're going to play at this game of anime-watching, you should know from which direction any arrows might come as well as where the best drops are :P)

[Heatth]

Last new episode, BLR, I've seen many links, to online episode, RAWs and fansubs. I don't know if they have been deleted tought.

Anyway, is not like I realy care that much about english fansubs.

e*e Oh, ok, thanks Vexx

[Kaioshin Sama]

They should have titled this thread: "Dance My Little Fan Puppets!!! Dance!!!" :P

Do I sense a hidden meeting therein? :confused::confused:

[Vexx]

Oh, its supposed to be delivered with a diabolical laugh by the Puppet Master .... it derives from any number of sources. Here's a poem credited to someone named Selenium:

Dance little puppet, dance!
You don't know... you don't know!
DANCE.
You have no idea your strings are being pulled.
The only happiness that exist is in your pathetic dreams!
Hope little puppet, HOPE.
I command you!

[Gordy Lechance]

And would this season of Haruhi reveal just what the heck that weird minature lion Mu-chan is? Been looking everywhere and I still can't find out what the heck he is meant to be!! :heh:

[Ithekro]

Probably not. They just sort of skipped that part of Haruhi-chan.

[Peanutbutter003]

And would this season of Haruhi reveal just what the heck that weird minature lion Mu-chan is? Been looking everywhere and I still can't find out what the heck he is meant to be!! :heh:

Mu-chan is strictly Haruhi-chan. And they skipped the part of introducing him.

Apparently, Mu-chan is from a magic lamp, if I remembered correctly. :heh:

[Ithekro]

I found it.

the simple way to explain "that" animal

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3693/sapilautharuhichan153is2.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapilautharuhichan153is2.jpg)http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5782/sapilautharuhichan154ba7.th.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapilautharuhichan154ba7.jpg)http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5637/sapilautharuhichan159lu4.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapilautharuhichan159lu4.jpg)

[Jintor]

That's... that's hilarious.

[Tokkan]

There is a new opening. And it looks very colourful.

[Driger]

Two Parts for Endless Eight!
Epic Win!

[C.A.]

The OP is win, someone needs to revive the Ontology thread back to its original purpose.

I see Neutrinos, Up/Down Quarks, Muons and other Quantum terms.

[Peanutbutter003]

Two Parts for Endless Eight!
Epic Win!

I always felt the whole thing would be better done in two parts, instead of one.

Now we have a repeat of the first few minutes in the next episode surely, or even till the halfway mark, I believe. :heh:

[Archaic]

I had my doubts that they'd be able to do it in a single part, after what they did for Lone Island Syndrome. How will this impact on all the episode predictions though, I wonder...

[Solais]

Yup, two episodes of Endless Eight. It was great, however I couldn't see the new OP because my browser freezed. :heh:

[Archaic]

Enjoy then Solais.

pcBLvEZr-iM

[quigonkenny]

I had my doubts that they'd be able to do it in a single part, after what they did for Lone Island Syndrome. How will this impact on all the episode predictions though, I wonder...
It'll royally frak them up, of course... I don't think anyone called a two part Endless Eight. Especially not the way they did it, with absolutely no hint of the "Endless" part in this episode...

Well, at least we now know for sure there will be a new episode next week (at least most of one).

And generic OP is generic... I'm a bit disappointed.

[C.A.]

The OP is quite generic, but its animation is win, the chorus is still great for me as well.

EDIT: Also it seems to me that they've fixed their proportions this time, Kyon no longer looks as short and stubby.

[Ascaloth]

I think it's true this time. The God Empress Is Back For Real! (http://www.riuva.com/?p=1435) :D

[Heatth]

Yeah, the character look pretyer then in BLR.

I like the new OP, but "Bouken" is better. I like "Tomare!" the most, tought.

[C.A.]

I was thinking why the episode title is simply 'Endless Eight', with no 'part 1' added.

Then I realised, next episode will still be 'Endless Eight'. There's no part 1 or 2, there's only 'Endless Eight'.

[Driger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBS0AGgGTnQ&fmt=22
New OP

[Ascaloth]

I was thinking why the episode title is simply 'Endless Eight', with no 'part 1' added.

Then I realised, next episode will still be 'Endless Eight'. There's no part 1 or 2, there's only 'Endless Eight'.

........

What if the next seven episodes are all titled 'Endless Eight'?

ULTIMATE TROLL. :heh:

[CrowKenobi]

Episode thread up! Let's moooove! :p

:cool:

and thanks, Klash! :D

[Peanutbutter003]

........

What if the next seven episodes are all titled 'Endless Eight'?

ULTIMATE TROLL. :heh:

And fill up more than half of the reported new 14 episodes?!?!?!

Blasphemy! :twitch:

[Ascaloth]

And fill up more than half of the reported new 14 episodes?!?!?!

Blasphemy! :twitch:

Yeah, I hope not, too. But y'know.....Kadokawa. :heh:

[bayoab]

New OP song is really meh. Visuals look pretty uninspired too overall. Kyoani has left me in despair.

[Peanutbutter003]

Yeah, I hope not, too. But y'know.....Kadokawa. :heh:

Thanks but no thanks. I myself will watch this episode 15498 times to achieve the same effect. :heh:

[C.A.]

New OP song is really meh. Visuals look pretty uninspired too overall. Kyoani has left me in despair.Well, its great for us who loved the Ontology Thread, the OP has significant meaning. Just look at the road sign with the infinity symbol.

[Gordy Lechance]

........

What if the next seven episodes are all titled 'Endless Eight'?

ULTIMATE TROLL. :heh:

Wait a gosh-darned second.

Isn't that the "Groundhog Day" arc in which the same afternoon is repeated for years? :heh:

[Team Rocket Elite]

It'll royally frak them up, of course... I don't think anyone called a two part Endless Eight. Especially not the way they did it, with absolutely no hint of the "Endless" part in this episode...

Well, at least we now know for sure there will be a new episode next week (at least most of one).

And generic OP is generic... I'm a bit disappointed.

I was fairly sure it would be done in two episodes. It's a decently long story with a clear break near the middle. I thought they would end the episode after they revealed what was up, though.

[bayoab]

Well, its great for us who loved the Ontology Thread, the OP has significant meaning. Just look at the road sign with the infinity symbol. I don't mean the background text. I mean the whole school part with the names and them walking up the hill is just a "what are they trying to poorly parody here?" or "just how cheap was this to make?" There is also the clearly reused piece of animation straight out of S1 in the school.

[Stardust Romance]

Gawd, I'm in love with the new OP *___*

I personally find it way better than the first, plus it has awesome snazzy effects.
I'm digging it.

[Tokkan]

There is also the clearly reused piece of animation straight out of S1 in the school.

Watching it in YouTube HD, that's actually not entirely old animation, it's the same scene reused though. But it's too close to the artstyle of the new episodes for it to be completely old animation.

[baltakatei]

Awesome! Thank you KyoAni for the mathy stuff. I'm watching the background equations... Gotta see if a heat transfer eqtn got thrown in...

(edit) Bah, just standard model physics stuff. =P

[Joe4evr]

Isn't that the "Groundhog Day" arc in which the same afternoon is repeated for years? :heh:Yeah, though it's the same 2 weeks (albeit with variations) for over half a millenium.

[C.A.]

We need someone to spend their time and make a full post of all the terms relating to the characters and free flying terms, then post it at the Ontology Thread.

Haruhi has 'Closed Space', Kyon had 'Key for everything' among a bunch of other terms and phrases, the others as well.

During the chorus the largest letters makes me think that maybe each character can be represented by a particle and they all combine to form the SOS-particle lol

[Tokkan]

Haruhi has 'Closed Space', Kyon had 'Key for everything' among a bunch of other terms and phrases, the others as well.

Mikura has "fighting waitress" and "TPDD".

[NaweG]

During the chorus the largest letters makes me think that maybe each character can be represented by a particle and they all combine to form the SOS-particle lol

Well, I've often wondered if there was any significance to Kyon and Muon being somewhat linked...

[baltakatei]

Kyon's cell phone model has stayed the same. No date was shown this time.


What aired today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/baltakatei/vlcsnap-477557.png

What aired in Melancholy IV.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/baltakatei/Picture10-1.png

[Driger]

http://hangzhou.images.skypp.com/small/926484.4377.jpg
Haruhi---Red
Mikuru---Orange
Yuki------Purple
Itsuki----Green
Kyon-----Blue

It was the same with new ED, haruhi-chan ED and tanabata cards in bambooleaf rhapsody.

[Kaisos Erranon]

http://hangzhou.images.skypp.com/small/926484.4377.jpg
Haruhi---Red
Mikuru---Orange
Yuki------Purple
Itsuki----Green
Kyon-----Blue

It was the same with new ED, haruhi-chan ED and tanabata cards in bambooleaf rhapsody.

They're really playing up the whole sentai/nakama concept, which is one of the themes of the show anyway.

[Ithekro]

I guess there suit/mecha colors have been decided already by Haruhi.

Come to think of it, with the exception of Mikuru and Yuki, aren't these the colors of their space ships and uniforms? (Mikuru got poka dot ships with a pink uniform while Yuki got white ships and uniform)

"Purple and Orange squadrons?"

[Dakota]

Well, the Endless Eight RAW is starting to be kicked around.

*anxiously awaiting subs*

[C.A.]

I'm not sure if these colours will stay, because all Haruhi merchandise already had official colours for all of them.

Red = Haruhi
Light Blue = Yuki
Yellow = Mikuru
Green = Tsuruya-san
Pink = Imouto-chan
Lime Green = Kimidori
Purple = Itsuki
Dark Blue = Kyon

[Joe4evr]

Dark Blue = KyonActually, going by the Image Song covers, Kyon is Yellow and Ryoko is Dark Blue.

[C.A.]

Actually, going by the Image Song covers, Kyon is Yellow and Ryoko is Dark Blue.Oh lol, my brain cells must be dying fast, even my Haruhism memory sector is collapsing.

The colours also apply to the official fanbooks, Maxfactory and Goodsmile Company's figures.

[Dakota]

http://domigan.wayfs.com/myspace/ChuruyaSeason2.jpg

[Jiggy]

I'm not sure what to think of the new OP's animation yet... My first thought was "not dynamic enough for Haruhi," with lots of white backgrounds or fairly solid single colors; Bouken Desho Desho was constantly focusing on backgrounds, often even moreso than the characters, and I miss that aspect a little.

I'm trying not to be too comparative, though, so I will say I really love Haruhi's smile for her intro shot. It's perfect and stands out to me instantly just like her smile pose in Hare Hare Yukai--the one with her arms folded, looking down on the camera--and captures her just as well, but the different and nicer side of her. No matter how she acts her intentions out, I think of her heart as definitely that of a bright optimist and I like seeing that conveyed.

Other things I liked: the foot-tapping and the comic-style bursts with their onomatopoeia. Very lively and fitting. My favorite scene is Haruhi running with all kinds of math and science floating past her.


No comment on the music because it took Bouken Desho Desho a while to grow on me, so I'll give the same courtesy to the new theme.

[Miyuki-ism]

I'm not to sure about the new OP either, it's pretty good, but I'm not sure how I like it compared to Bouken Desho Desho.

The ending is really good, I like the song especially, but sometimes it hurts my eyes a little with the flashing and I miss the dancing a little, but other then that it's pretty sweet.

[swtrooper42]

That's the thing with the new OP and the ED, they knew whatever they did they could never make something better then the originals. So they didn't try and went in a different direction with the nakuma approach. I for one love them. Haruhi looks good running in the OP and I like the wind scene from the ED.

[Miyuki-ism]

Yea, strobe light! Just the flashing walls hurt my eyes a little and I like the part in the OP where Haruhi and Kyon make their way to their desks.

[Jintor]

I don't know if I've seen full quality OP just yet, I think either the video file or my computer is messing with me.

[JagdPanther]

So... I'm confused. I just saw this board get added to the Current Series list again. Is this 2009 thingy the second season, basically? I'm confused.

Sorry if this has been hashed already. Delete if needed.

[Jintor]

In a word?

Yes.

[Heatth]

So... I'm confused. I just saw this board get added to the Current Series list again. Is this 2009 thingy the second season, basically? I'm confused.

Sorry if this has been hashed already. Delete if needed.

Something like that. Actually is the old season with 14 new episodes. All in chronological order. You could say that is a new 28 episode season. Today we got the 2nd new episode, which is, actually, the 12th of the rerun.

[JagdPanther]

Right. Thanks.

Well, looks like I've got a ton of catching up to do. Yippee. I kinda like watch to this stuff as it comes out. >_>
Something like that. Actually is the old season with 14 new episodes. All in chronological order. You could say that is a new 28 episode season. Today we got the 2nd new episode, which is, actually, the 12th of the rerun.
Oh, that's nice.

So are the "old" episodes fairly similar to the old series? (It'd be even better if they were just remastered versions that were nearly exactly the same ) If I can avoid watching a ton of episodes I'd be really happy.

Thanks for the info. I was really confused as to why it said it was started in April but only two "new" episode topics existed on the list.

[Jintor]

Remastered versions that are exactly the same. Well, except for the remastered parts - they're the DVD releases.

[CrowKenobi]

Oh, that's nice.

So are the "old" episodes fairly similar to the old series? (It'd be even better if they were just remastered versions that were nearly exactly the same ) If I can avoid watching a ton of episodes I'd be really happy. The "old" episodes are the DVD versions of those episodes... thus "technically" the whole season is "new" since those episodes haven't been broadcast before. :D

:cool:

...what Jintor said. :heh:

[JagdPanther]

Okay. I guess I can skip over all the old episodes then and not miss *a lot*?

I'll do that, I suppose. Save me a lot of time.

[Midonin]

Ah, so there was a new OP. I will eat my own words. Though much like "Tomare!" (and the existence of S2 as a whole), there was no evidence pointing to the fact that "Super Driver" was going to exist until tonight/this afternoon/adjust to your time zone as necessary.

But I am pleased. A new OP and ED means more music for my collection, and I would never object to that.

[Driger]

http://hangzhou.images.skypp.com/small/926484.4377.jpg
Haruhi---Red
Mikuru---Orange
Yuki------Purple
Itsuki----Green
Kyon-----Blue

It was the same with new ED, haruhi-chan ED and tanabata cards in bambooleaf rhapsody.

Sorry, I missed haruhi-chan OP:heh:

http://guangzhou.images.skypp.com/small/926575.1907.jpg

[Heatth]

Okay. I guess I can skip over all the old episodes then and not miss *a lot*?

I'll do that, I suppose. Save me a lot of time.

You can skip it and you will miss very few things, if you miss anything at all (I don't know what are the changes).

But try to understand between which chapters he new one are, remamber that they are not after after all old ones. This week episode (and the next few) are between the Island episode and the Festival. The BLR, the other new episode, is between the baseball and the internet incident.

[dragon4dudes]

I've watched the raw. Purty nice, though it would be nice if I could understand it... So, have subs come out?

[LumpOfCole]

I've watched the raw. Purty nice, though it would be nice if I could understand it... So, have subs come out?

http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1448.html + F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

[dragon4dudes]

http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1448.html + F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

yeah... i'll wait until tomorrow...

[vivify93]

Just watched the new episode, and I couldn't help but notice this.

Did anyone else notice that the animators made Kyon and Itsuki's crotchlines prominent? Also, Haruhi seemed to pop her butt out a lot. Course it has been a while since I last saw the original 14 episodes, so those could've been in the last set, but still.

:heh:

[C.A.]

I don't think many of us were looking at the guys' crotches :heh:, but yea we noticed that Haruhi's butt is becoming the main focus lol

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Did anyone else notice that the animators made Kyon and Itsuki's crotchlines prominent? Also, Haruhi seemed to pop her butt out a lot. Course it has been a while since I last saw the original 14 episodes, so those could've been in the last set, but still.

Well they could very well be trying to appeal to both the male and female viewing audiences.:heh: One thing is for sure, like C.A. said, Haruhi's butt is becoming the main focus.

[Roger Rambo]

I don't think many of us were looking at the guys' crotches :heh:, but yea we noticed that Haruhi's butt is becoming the main focus lol
This has (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2659/1201999069394.jpg) been visible in (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3651/moe35498suzumiyaharuhis.jpg) allot of the illustrations (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4576/haruhictreesmall.jpg) that popped up after the series ended. (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2489/moe2180sample.jpg)

I also noticed it in that dating sim game opening for Haruhi chan. (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1705/haruhidatinggame.jpg)

And this new episode seems to have one every 4 minutes...lets count off...

The opening credits butt shot
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7426/buttskh.jpg
The under water butt shot
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6495/buttpool.jpg
The obligatory hip shot
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9917/poolhips.jpg
The lets throw shit at haruhi's butt shot
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8812/ballbutt.jpg
The lets catch cicada butt shot
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8448/cicadabutt.jpg


So yes. Whoever has been directing allot of the animation recenetly has been listening to way to much sir Mix allot. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNQU-tVSuw4)

[Jill-Jênn]

Why don't everyone watch the associated topic, in “Torrent Submissions”?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=82940

[Kaisos Erranon]

This has (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2659/1201999069394.jpg) been visible in (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3651/moe35498suzumiyaharuhis.jpg) allot of the illustrations (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4576/haruhictreesmall.jpg) that popped up after the series ended. (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2489/moe2180sample.jpg)

I have the Santa one as a wall scroll. It's fantastic.

Hey, I really can't complain that we're getting more focus on Haruhi here...

[Jill-Jênn]

*advertising a bit :D*
Super Driver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wjMqRMc5Kg

[Joe4evr]

I'm probably the only one to look it up, but I couldn't help but compare the shot of the bowling scores (http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff89/Joe4evr/random/77d2d683.jpg) to the one in Lucky Star (http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff89/Joe4evr/random/25d28fff.jpg).

I was disappointed to find there are almost no similarities.

[Jill-Jênn]

What are those numbers between parentheses?

[Solachinx]

What are those numbers between parentheses?

Where are said numbers?

[Joe4evr]

Where are said numbers?The Lucky Star one, I made a copy that marks them (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff89/Joe4evr/random/530fdba0.jpg).