Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Episode 11 Discussion/Poll

[Klashikari]

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[konart]

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Izumi is a 100% Celestial Being member.

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[Mystique]

Threeeeeeeead! :D

Oooooooookay.
Seeing as I began writing about it in the ep 10 thread,
IIRC there was the pregnancy story in FMA 1 too, just today was on overkill with manga moments, it felt like an episode of Seto no Hanayome.
You need to watch it behind a brick wall cause the level of wackiness was totally off the scales today xD
(aaaaah it's all coming out now) ><;;;;
Seeing as it was a light hearted ep, I had a feeling they were reeeeally gonna go all out on the oneomatoepia but wow....
They must have had an awesome time when recording the voices for this, lol

I'll keep it there for now, that's my personal opinion on being on the receiving end of this style and story for today as someone who hasn't seen the majority of the material used.
here’s some of the love I had today for it.

MANFLESH!!! :love:
:love:ED TOPLEEEEESS!!:love:
(So…damn… hot…) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/mystiques_wish/Smileys/wub.gif
And and and and!
All the other muscly…topless…automail mechanists… *drools*

I found I didn’t care about the rest of the ep after that.
I was surrounded in the sparkles that Winry stole from Armstrong for this episode and bathed in glowing hearts myself, lol.

Anyways *coughs*
The story… ah yes the story.
As I said today, really felt like an episode from Seto no Hanayome. The thing is though that series is a romantic comedy which lives of that level of insanity and shouting and super deformed characters and masses of kana and onomatopoeia littered all over the screen, so when FMA today was overdosing on it, it was like:
‘woooah, I needed my shields for this, calm down already!’ ><;;;;;

For example, anyone who isn’t clued up on pregnancy and labour will end up traumatised after watching this ep.
Ed an Al panicked in FMA1 too, but maaaaan, in today’s ep?
All the moaning and groaning (which was kinda dodgy in itself) >.>
And the screaming and Ed pressing his hands to his ears.
(Well yeah, aural torture I guess)
And then Paninya falling to her knees and going 'the blood!!!'
(yeah... the placenta can be a messy thing you know...)
But talk about gross exaggeration, lol.
Was a bit too much for me, especially when such a scene as the Winry vs Ed moment was in there, after seeing that, I didn’t feel like returning to that level of wackiness.
I liked the serious, touching moment and tone… but by then the baby had been born so I think the episode calmed down somewhat.

I remember from 2004/2005 how my FMA fangirl crew who were following the manga at the time screamed over every single EdxWinry moment, and I’m a lil aware of how the manga plays with that over the series.
(They wouldn’t shut up about it)
I just got my first glimpse of it in today’s ep and suspect there’ll be plenty more of it with that kinda quiet, unspoken tension that flows between them.
I saw one scene today and said to myself offline;
“If I was an EdxWin fangirl, I’d be squealing like a banshee right about now, cause that’s kinda intimate” :)

But I stand by my feelings about them two as I had in FMA 1.
Ed’s focus is on Al, not Winry – so even if feelings are around on his end, he wouldn’t be a guy to let himself indulge in them simply because as we saw today with the all important watch, he has a goal to fulfil and is risking his very existence (and his brother’s life too) in order to make it real.
He can only move forward and be driven by that goal.

The comic moments for me or if I needed to pick the best “manga moment” would have to have been Ed visualising being tall.
I ended up laughing so damn hard and it was weird seeing him that tall!!! xD
That gets #1 favourite from me.
The others…. I kinda forgot now, lol ^^

8/10 for me today.
Episode 5 remains to be the only 11/10 for me so far, but today was a lot of fun as I suspected it would be. :)

[duckroll]

So, regarding the actual episode. I felt that considering the episode itself, it's very well directed and I really enjoyed how the material was actually used and animated. Unfortunately, as expected by compressing 3 full chapters into a single episode, they had to make substantial cuts from the source material. The removal of the bridge scene is VERY disappointing for me, since I really enjoyed that scene in the manga. Looking at it entirely from an anime perspective, the episode was pretty solid and rather emotional. But from the perspective of a manga adaptation, the edits are rather disappointing I have to say.

[Field of Lilies]

Ah, Rush Valley. Not particularly important for the overall plot, but I have a big weak spot for you anyway^^

The first half felt really rushed :( There are some bits I'd liked to have seen, but alas, can't have it all! I think the second half was handled better, felt less rushed. And seeing how the more important char development scenes are in that part, the rushedness of the first part is (for me anyway), an acceptable trade off for that.

[Shiroth]

So, regarding the actual episode. I felt that considering the episode itself, it's very well directed and I really enjoyed how the material was actually used and animated. Unfortunately, as expected by compressing 3 full chapters into a single episode, they had to make substantial cuts from the source material. The removal of the bridge scene is VERY disappointing for me, since I really enjoyed that scene in the manga. Looking at it entirely from an anime perspective, the episode was pretty solid and rather emotional. But from the perspective of a manga adaptation, the edits are rather disappointing I have to say.
It's a shame about the bridge scene. Not really needed, though it plays a nice role during the birth scene.

None manga first series watches will finally see the Ed and Winry hidden message in the watch scene, and how it's supposed to play out. Best scene of the episode, easily for me.

[Kirarakim]

An okay episode but definitely a disappointing adaption. I realized that they would have to cut the chase scene short but wow it was just blah all together. I am also extremely upset they cut the bridge scene. Yes the episode flowed well without it but I love that scene in the manga because it shows specifically the limitations of alchemy and how Ed & Al despite being the main characters cannot solve everything.

Also I think they really exaggerated some of the screaming scenes in this episode.

That being said there were parts I did like the music playing during Paninya's flashback was gorgeous (I think it was a variation of the music that played in episode 9 when Winry and Hughes were talking about Ed & Al. It's my favorite track from the series).

I also think the scene when Ed & Al touched the mom's stomach was really sweet (although I don't think Al would be able to feel anything). Actually there were a lot of cute brotherly moments in this episode. Al dragging Ed away, Ed & Al comforting each other during the birth, and so forth.

I also loved the little add on of Al looking at the baby and hearts suddenly appearing. Oh man I love Al. :p

Finally the pocket watch scene was perfect, I really liked how they added the burning house scene here as it added to the effect. It was nice, simple, and very effective. And I like that it causes Winry to want to improve her automail skills not just sit around and wait.

edit: Also why did they have to bring back the "last time on FMA" and alchemy explanation thing at the beginning of the episode? :(

[Ziziphus]

Man, you've said almost all of what I wanted to say, Kirarakim! :)

Well, this ep really did a good job of helping me get rid of my moody self from last episode, although some humor scenes seemed to be overdone quite a bit.

That being said there were parts I did like the music playing during Paninya's flashback was gorgeous (I think it was a variation of the music that played in episode 9 when Winry and Hughes were talking about Ed & Al. It's my favorite track from the series).

You're right, and it's my favourite too! I do prefer the version in this ep though.
Speaking of music, I think the piece playing during the birth scene was somewhat inappropriate, or is it just me?

I also loved the little add on of Al looking at the baby and hearts suddenly appearing. Oh man I love Al. :p

Al was so CUTE!! :heh:

Finally the pocket watch scene was perfect, I really liked how they added the burning house scene here as it added to the effect. It was nice, simple, and very effective. And I like that it causes Winry to want to improve her automail skills not just sit around and wait.

Touching scene indeed. Especially when Ed saw Winry crying he just simply smiled as if nothing ever happened. It's because he's like that Winry had to cry for him all the time. :(

Btw, it's interesting to see a certain character show up earlier here in this ep (just a sketch of him though) :p

[hamstar]

I've decided to drop this series.

[Endless Twilight]

Most people will probably be happy with Rush Valley not taking up more than a single episode, seeing as it is generally considered to be the lowest point of the manga. Though of course in a series with FMA's quality, lowest point still doesn't mean "bad", which Rush Valley is far from, IMO. All this to say that there's a lot of good scenes in it and the one I was probably looking forward to the most seems to have been removed.

It's the first real scene where Ed and Al's alchemy fails them and it helps make them realize how amazing human beings can be, having the power to help in a situation in which even alchemy was powerless. So yeah, why couldn't they have shown it instead of taking up space once again with "last time on FMA" and the alchemy intro? Poor decision on the staff's part, but oh well. Hopefully the scenes that they DO cover are done well. I'll know when I watch it I guess.

[Myssa Rei]

I've decided to drop this series.

Hello ragequit.

Kidding aside, we're close to the point of divergence. Oooh, caaaan't wait!

[Endless Twilight]

Hello ragequit.

Kidding aside, we're close to the point of divergence. Oooh, caaaan't wait!

Indeed. It's only too bad that next episode will be something that the first series covered perfectly. But once again, it's something they just have to show.

[Myssa Rei]

Indeed. It's only too bad that next episode will be something that the first series covered perfectly. But once again, it's something they just have to show.

Well, look at it this way, their loss is our gain. Ragequitters will miss out on a LOT of stuff coming down the line, and those who complained about the lack of similarity of the first series will quiet down a bit.

[GaimeGuy]

:D @ Scar + Yoki + Greed wanted posters

[Endless Twilight]

:D @ Scar + Yoki + Greed wanted posters

Those were rather silly tbh.

Anyways, was it just me or was the art and animation in this episode really good? Kind of a weird episode choice to waste their budget on.

[qwertyman]

This episode confuses me.

I thought Ed & Al burned their house after they decided on setting out to be alchemists/find a way to restore their bodies, not after Ed was qualified to be a state alchemist (which is what this episode suggests).

[Endless Twilight]

This episode confuses me.

I thought Ed & Al burned their house after they decided on setting out to be alchemists/find a way to restore their bodies, not after Ed was qualified to be a state alchemist (which is what this episode suggests).

Those two things are pretty much the same. Their journey could only truly begin once they were qualified to obtain information on a way to restore their bodies through State Alchemist privileges.

When that happened they probably went back to Reseembol to tell Winry and Pinako about Ed's license, and then burned down their house and set out on their journey.

[qwertyman]

Those two things are pretty much the same. Their journey could only truly begin once they were qualified to obtain information on a way to restore their bodies through State Alchemist privileges.

When that happened they probably went back to Reseembol to tell Winry and Pinako about Ed's license, and then burned down their house and set out on their journey.

Well, I guess you could say that, but I had always thought the order of events was something like:

Failed at resurrection -> went to find an Alchemist master -> Mustang shows up -> Ed & Al burn the house and head to Central to become State Alchemists

I'm asking this because I feel like this is the first time they've had a memory scene (in both anime series) of the house burning where Ed is a state alchemist and has his red jacket.

[APastelPainting]

What did you guys think of how they handled the house burning scene? I felt it was more well done in FMA 1, but that seems to be the general trend of all the scenes that have been done so far in both anime series.

[Kirvee]

The pacing didn't feel that great in this episode.

The EdWin moment, while not being my most favorite in the series, was kinda cut down on too. It still made me a happy fangirl though, I just wish they had included a little more of it.

Ed imagining himself as taller was really funny, lol. It almost looked as if his secret dream is for Winry to look up at him in a similar way she was in his daydream (for all I know, it probably is).

Hope the other, more enjoyable moments between them don't receive heavy cuts....

Also...


Lol I finally noticed a background bonus. Guess this is their way of trying to make up for skipping Yoki's story entirely. As well as hinting at Greed.


Next episode is going to be awesome.

Oh yeah, and someone must've told the eyecatch guy to tone down on the voices because neither of them sounded overly creepy or overly cheery this time around. Hope it stays this way.

@Qwerty:

Almost. The actual sequence is:

Mom dies --> Find an alchemy teacher --> attempt and fail at human transmutation --> Roy shows up --> Ed thinks about it --> Goes to become a State Alchemist and succeeds --> Burn house and leave

@Pastel:

I thought the animation and scene sequence was better, but they could've added just a bit more. Like Ed's "Your crying hasn't change at all, Winry." line.

[germanturkey]

wait, does Ming show up now or later? cause i definitely remember him in Rush Valley..

[quigonkenny]

wait, does Ming show up now or later? cause i definitely remember him in Rush Valley..
It'll be a little while yet.

[GaimeGuy]

Yeah, the manga is pretty specific in saying that Ed and Al burned their house immediately after Ed became a state alchemist

[GaimeGuy]

wait, does Ming show up now or later? cause i definitely remember him in Rush Valley..

Ling, Fu, and Ran Fan show up in their next visit to Rush Valley. After the events of Dublith, Ed and Al head back to Central, but they stop in Rush Valley to pick Winry up. That is when the stuff involving Ling occurs.

[spaced]

That was a solid episode. Don't even remember it being in the original anime for some reason too.

I don't read the manga, and I read some of your posts - how much of the manga was compressed into that episode? And will there be episodes where we get scenes from earlier volumes in the later stages of the anime? It'd be a shame to compromise some of the manga.

[GaimeGuy]

About three chapter's worth, actually.... the paninya chase scene is ridiculously lon gand takes up the majority of one chapter in the manga, actually. It's pretty widely considered to be the worst chapter in FMA.

[Shiroth]

It's pretty widely considered to be the worst chapter in FMA.
I wouldn't call it the worst, and for that matter i wouldn't say there are any chapters that fall into that category. :)

[Kirarakim]

I wouldn't call it the worst, and for that matter i wouldn't say there are any chapters that fall into that category. :)

Same, I actually really enjoy the Rush Valley chapters. They aren't my absolute favorite chapters but I still feel they are a lot of fun and add some nice character development for the characters.


That was a solid episode. Don't even remember it being in the original anime for some reason too.


It was but there were a lot of differences.

[Sannom]

I thought Ed & Al burned their house after they decided on setting out to be alchemists/find a way to restore their bodies, not after Ed was qualified to be a state alchemist (which is what this episode suggests).

First anime series. In which the date on the watch is 3rd October 1910 while in the manga and Brotherhood it's 3rd October 1911.

Seriously, good episode but very bad adaptation :( We miss the entire chase between Ed and Paninya (I wanted to see that brat beaten by a girl :p ), the reason why the inhabitants of Rush Valey are so suspicious of Ed later in the series, the "I fear Pinako" scene from Dominic, and I miss seeing Paninya running after the train with her hands in her pocket :D

[Erunno]

It's the first real scene where Ed and Al's alchemy fails them and it helps make them realize how amazing human beings can be, having the power to help in a situation in which even alchemy was powerless.

What? The defining moment which showed Ed the limits of alchemy was the failed resurrection of their mother. The bridge scene reiterated that point maybe but was redundant in the greater scope. Since it doesn't add anything thematically it was the right decision to cut this part if omissions are necessary at all.

[Kirarakim]

What? The defining moment which showed Ed the limits of alchemy was the failed resurrection of their mother. The bridge scene reiterated that point maybe but was redundant in the greater scope. Since it doesn't add anything thematically it was the right decision to cut this part if omissions are necessary at all.

If you think that then you missed the entire point of the bridge scene. I don't see the correlation at all between the failure to bring back their mother and failure to create the bridge. The reason for the failure is not the same.

The failure with the bridge shows specifically the limitation of alchemy. Even though Ed & Al understand how to make the bridge they don't have enough raw materials to do it. To create the bridge they have to take material from the ground. This would cause the ground around them to collapse. Al even theorized creating supports under the bridge but the torrents of the rain would just wash away the supports. It's all about the law of equivalent exchange. It shows just how well thought out alchemy is in the FMA world that is not the be all end all answer to everything. That there is very specific rules to it. And because of these rules Ed & Al's alchemy could not help with the delivery of a baby. However a young girl with basic medical knowledge was able to do it.

[Sackett]

Well, I guess you could say that, but I had always thought the order of events was something like:

Failed at resurrection -> went to find an Alchemist master -> Mustang shows up -> Ed & Al burn the house and head to Central to become State Alchemists

I'm asking this because I feel like this is the first time they've had a memory scene (in both anime series) of the house burning where Ed is a state alchemist and has his red jacket.

You have the correct order for the first anime series.

The manga and "Brotherhood" are slightly different in order.

Not too important to the plot though.

[Shiroth]

Takamoto Megumi yet again displayed a number of different emotions in her speech, and i'm amazed yet again. Her "Automail~, automail~ automail~" was absolutely adorably, and full of complete love. She truly is doing a great job voicing Winry.

[GaimeGuy]

Yeah, she's been really, really good as Winry so far.

[Rika24]

i actually liked this episode, at least better than the old series version of the birth part. i also enjoyed the EdWin moment

[quigonkenny]

That being said there were parts I did like the music playing during Paninya's flashback was gorgeous (I think it was a variation of the music that played in episode 9 when Winry and Hughes were talking about Ed & Al. It's my favorite track from the series).
You're right, and it's my favourite too! I do prefer the version in this ep though.
Speaking of music, I think the piece playing during the birth scene was somewhat inappropriate, or is it just me?
Agreed on that piece being a bit odd for the scene, even though it's probably the best piece in the soundtrack so far (it's my personal favorite), as it was the same piece they played when Ed had to clean things up post-Truth. I think this underlines the largest musical deficiency this series has when compared to the other series.

I'm not knocking the job Akira Senju is doing so far. I wouldn't say that the quality of music in the soundtrack is quite at Michiru Oshima's level just yet (although I will admit that I have alternately been whistling/humming that aforementioned "Ed Screams and Bleeds/Winry Delivers Baby" music over the entire course of writing and editing this post), but the fact that there's even a question as to whether it's as good or not says volumes about how good Senju's music in this series has been. That said, there is no question that there's a certain lack of variety in the music in this series when compared to the previous one. We're already talking about hearing the same music in different scenes, in multiple unrelated instances, and it's only what, the 11th episode? And it's not just the two pieces mentioned above; and it's not something I just realized. Aside from the various and admittedly plentiful (yet always appropriate) leitmotif of the previous series, how easy is it to say the same over the course of its entire 51 episodes?

Who knows? Maybe there's a full four or five CDs worth of score they haven't used yet, but if so, that goes to whoever is handling the musical direction of the series, which might not necessarily be Senju. All I know is—as much as I love it and am still humming it as we speak—I don't want to hear the "Ed Screams and Bleeds" music again unless something is Going Down. Not during a scene consisting mostly of gag animation and overreaction in a half-assed attempt to make it SRS BSNS.

Of course, all that said, I still liked the episode. They skipped and/or glossed over a lot of it, but as suggested before, most of what happens during this visit to Rush Valley is fairly bland as it is. I also don't have a problem with the losing of the bridge scene, and as a matter of fact think that Ed's character is the better for it. I always thought that scene was a bit of a step back for his character, for him to be attempting, after all he's been through, something that he fairly obviously knew he was never going to be able to do (evidenced by Al's calm explanation to Winry of just why Ed was failing), simply out of desperation. Strangely enough, the running around and screaming is a more "mature" reaction... ^_^

[Shiroth]

I'm not knocking the job Akira Senju is doing so far. I wouldn't say that the quality of music in the soundtrack is quite at Michiru Oshima's level just yet (although I will admit that I have alternately been whistling/humming that aforementioned "Ed Screams and Bleeds/Winry Delivers Baby" music over the entire course of writing and editing this post), but the fact that there's even a question as to whether it's as good or not says volumes about how good Senju's music in this series has been. That said, there is no question that there's a certain lack of variety in the music in this series when compared to the previous one. We're already talking about hearing the same music in different scenes, in multiple unrelated instances, and it's only what, the 11th episode? And it's not just the two pieces mentioned above; and it's not something I just realized. Aside from the various and admittedly plentiful (yet always appropriate) leitmotif of the previous series, how easy is it to say the same over the course of its entire 51 episodes?
I don't quite get the point you're aiming at. Are you saying that Senju's score won't be as good as Oshima's because we've been hearing a few of the same pieces more then once so far? I mean over the years i've watched 51 episode shows that had 4 soundtracks released, and another show with just 2 released --- quite the big different when you think about it, though both worked, and do the job they set out to do with their musical scores. The one with 2 soundtracks that comes to mind first, would be Eureka Seven (it has one of my all time favorite scores, by Naoki Sato), quite a few pieces from that were used more then once, though personally i really don't see what was wrong with that. It shows the quality of the composer when one track and play more then one important role when it's used a number of times over the course of the story.

Anyway, for me Senju's score easily does the job better then Oshima's score. I've explained why quite a bit in past episode threads. :)

[kitten320]

About three chapter's worth, actually.... the paninya chase scene is ridiculously lon gand takes up the majority of one chapter in the manga, actually. It's pretty widely considered to be the worst chapter in FMA.

Seriously?
FMA chapters are like about 40 pages long and they have covered 3 in one episode? :confused:

Wow! I'm afraid to imagine how many chapters would FMA animators use if they did Naruto and Bleach :heh:

[quigonkenny]

I don't quite get the point you're aiming at. Are you saying that Senju's score won't be as good as Oshima's because we've been hearing a few of the same pieces more then once so far? I mean over the years i've watched 51 episode shows that had 4 soundtracks released, and another show with just 2 released --- quite the big different when you think about it, though both worked, and do the job they set out to do with their musical scores. The one with 2 soundtracks that comes to mind first, would be Eureka Seven (it has one of my all time favorite scores, by Naoki Sato), quite a few pieces from that were used more then once, though personally i really don't see what was wrong with that. It shows the quality of the composer when one track and play more then one important role when it's used a number of times over the course of the story.

Anyway, for me Senju's score easily does the job better then Oshima's score. I've explained why quite a bit in past episode threads. :)
I'm saying that it isn't as good so far because it appears that they're so limited in the amount of score that they have that they're already replaying songs in inappropriate areas simply because they have no better piece to play in that spot. Prime example would be the music that was playing during the delivery scene, but there have been examples previous to this that are similar. Another would be the same music playing during Al's "Barry in the mirror" scene in ep 9 where he wonders if he's real or not (creepily fitting) and during Ed's explanation in ep 7 to Lt Brosh about why alchemists encrypt their research (creepily jarring). The music is very good, certainly, but if it's poorly used, it's going to end up as a poor soundtrack...

[Kirarakim]

I'm saying that it isn't as good so far because it appears that they're so limited in the amount of score that they have that they're already replaying songs in inappropriate areas simply because they have no better piece to play in that spot. Prime example would be the music that was playing during the delivery scene, but there have been examples previous to this that are similar. Another would be the same music playing during Al's "Barry in the mirror" scene in ep 9 where he wonders if he's real or not (creepily fitting) and during Ed's explanation in ep 7 to Lt Brosh about why alchemists encrypt their research (creepily jarring). The music is very good, certainly, but if it's poorly used, it's going to end up as a poor soundtrack...

I think they were trying to make the delivery scene scary
to reflect Ed & Al's feelings on the situation. I found it amusing. Admittedly though I think they overdid the delivery scene in general. In the manga I got the sense that Ed & Al were scared because they had no idea what a delivery takes not because the delivery itself was really scary. The whole blood thing with Paninya was exaggerated too because she can't stand the sight of any blood. The delivery scene in the manga was supposed to be almost comical. Like it's really not that bad guys. But I think this series exaggerated the scene making it really seem like a life & death situation.

Now as for the comparison to the two scores. I do like Oshima's more. That's just a personal preference because I think the first FMA had an amazing score and it is actually one of my favorites. But Oshima's OST also had variations of a lot of the same pieces so it wasn't as varied as people seem to make out. Also when it comes to variation I think it is hard to compare only 11 episodes of this series to 51 episodes of the old series. As for the use of appropriate tracks, personally I have not had a problem with Akira Senju's choices at all.

[Shiroth]

That's the point i was getting at. Hearing the same piece about 3 times in 11 episodes so far doesn't say anything about the score apart from how well composed it's been upto now. That one piece that can play such an important role during three different scenes shows the quality of the composer.

[Knowledge Seeker]

This is a solid episode; comedy, a nice chase scene, and we find out something special about Ed. Ed's character is beginning to grow on me; he's so determined and ready to do anything to succeed. In the last series, Roy, Scar, and Hughes were my favorite characters. But for some reason, I like Ed's character a bit more (maybe because I'm looking at a solid manga-to-anime conversion?)

Either way, good episode.

[Kirvee]

So I wonder, when are they going to use that new opening and ending song? I was thinking it'd be this episode considering we caught wind of it a week ago.

Maybe next episode?

[Endless Twilight]

So I wonder, when are they going to use that new opening and ending song? I was thinking it'd be this episode considering we caught wind of it a week ago.

Maybe next episode?

It's been confirmed that it'll begin on 12th July, aka episode 15.

[Kirvee]

Ah, ok. Thank you, Twi!

[Sannom]

Even though Ed & Al understand how to make the bridge they don't have enough raw materials to do it.

The main problem wasn't that. The problem was that the "head" of the bridge was way too heavy for the length he wanted to reach, and so the bridge collapsed before he could reach the other side.

[Jarmel]

Pretty rushed episode. I really wish they would cut the "Previously on FMA" part which takes up way too much time and the introduction. The only reason I think they do this is for budget saving purposes which pisses me off(especially in cases like this where a minute or too would have helped alot in slowing down the pace.

[Guido]

This was a merry episode to ease the audience from the tension we watched in the previous one.

I have to give kudos to the audience for making such an excellent episode in terms of character development and character insight for Winry, in particular, and Ed.


In the first FMA series, I believe Paninya stole Ed's pocketwatch for a very different reason, which involved Ed making Winry cry.

Furthermore, the pocketwatch played a prominent role as a symbol of the boys with their tragic past for most of the first series, however, for the second series I think the pocketwatch's role was reserved exclusively for this episode.

It made Winry to realize that if she intends to walk on path that is as harsh as Ed's and Al's, then she must do so with a cemented resolve. For Ed is to remind him about the burden of sins in order not to let his resolve go astray.

BTW, for just a little information, in the first FMA series, Paninya also had her left arm as auto-mail.

[Sannom]

Spoilers first series :

In the first FMA series, I believe Paninya stole Ed's pocketwatch for a very different reason, which involved Ed making Winry cry.

Winry asked Paninya to steal Ed's watch and beat him in a race, which would help Paninya to prove that Dominic's automails are the best in town. And Winry wanted Ed to say that her work was great. All bullshit and reasons to downgrade anime!Winry even more. Hated Rush Valey in the anime, especially after loving it in the manga.

[Endless Twilight]

I never understood why they made Winry act like that in the first series... it was just so out of character for her to make such a fuss and drama over something like that.

As far as Rush Valley is concerned: Manga > Brotherhood > Anime