The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll [2009 added ep. 2] [Archive]

Klashikari

2009-06-18, 11:47

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Peanutbutter003

2009-06-18, 11:50

Two things: [mod edit: now only one]

1) I'm sure they've recycled the bowling scores from Lucky Star Ep 18 in here. :heh:

topboy

2009-06-18, 11:52

Kyo-Ani make the great job for this Ep. so deep in detail follow same as novel. Even i can't understand japanese language but cause kyo-ani good work so i can know what is going on clearly.
Cute Yukata & swimsuit & Frogsuit + High detail = 10/10

M.Marangio

2009-06-18, 11:53

Bye bye, 2chan links.

Screenshots can be seen at random curiosity (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2009/06/18/suzumiya-haruhi-2009-08-endless-eight/).

C.A.

2009-06-18, 11:55

This episode is great service, lots of eye candy and laughs, for this reason I gave it a 10 lol

But it seems that they've skipped some parts, but then I'm thinking these parts would be shown in the next Endless Eight.

arcticphoenix16

2009-06-18, 11:56

I think the art is moving closer to Season 1 style this time, will need to watch a HQ version to confirm.

The new eye-style fits mikuru, but not haruhi. They need to give Haruhi her season 1 extremely sharp eyes back. Her current eyes reminds me of Yui from K-On.

dkellis

2009-06-18, 12:03

Two things:

1) I'm sure they've recycled the bowling scores from Lucky Star Ep 18 in here. :heh:

Nope.

Lucky Star:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8880/luckystar20090619005219.jpg

Haruhi Suzumiya (from the 2chan thread):
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7704/haruhi1245343179634.jpg

Mikuru did worse in the canon universe than she did in the LS-verse...

C.A.

2009-06-18, 12:03

Haruhi's eyes are alright for me, but she has an upgrade to her figure :heh:

If anything, the service this episode provides has shown us that she has a more beautiful bottom.

Peanutbutter003

2009-06-18, 12:04

Hmmm...maybe Yuki was tired, yeah, that explains it. :heh:

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the scoring pattern as well. :heh:

Haruhi's eyes are alright for me, but she has an upgrade to her figure :heh:

If anything, the service this episode provides has shown us that she has a more beautiful bottom.

Don't forget her top-heavy assets. :heh: I'm repeatedly watching the new OP and they surely make her more top-heavy. :)

kenjiharima

2009-06-18, 12:10

Instant 10 for me for swimsuits. :D :love:

M.Marangio

2009-06-18, 12:11

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7704/haruhi1245343179634.jpg

Yuki is surely bored... 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4

dkellis

2009-06-18, 12:14

Yuki is surely bored... 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4

Ha, I didn't even notice that.

Ascaloth

2009-06-18, 12:19

Yuki is surely bored... 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4

Oh gawd, poor Yuki. :heh:

Heatth

2009-06-18, 12:19

Her control over the ball is amazing.

Ascaloth

2009-06-18, 12:20

Her control over the ball is amazing.

Considering what she can do, I bet this is chicken feed. ;)

Toonleap

2009-06-18, 12:31

For more screenshots and the OP, visit my website
http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/06/18/haruhi-second-season-endless-eight/

I give it a 10 because even if that episode was a "slice of life", it was fun.

Ithekro

2009-06-18, 12:34

The Lucky Star one may be their last run though.

ReneeBurossamu

2009-06-18, 12:51

I haven't even seen the episode yet, but the images I've seen and the novel story of it I read will definitely put it above a nine on my scale.

I liked the OP, but I still think that's it's the same as with Tomare! VS Hare Hare Yukai.

typhonsentra

2009-06-18, 12:55

I said it in the other thread too but yeah, I'm worried that the next episode will be really boring. This one was fine though.

Vexx

2009-06-18, 13:20

Yuki's bowling scores ftw.... but I'll wait for a sub methinks.

GuidoHunter_Toki

2009-06-18, 13:49

Despite not having watched the subs yet it was a fun episode. Lots of laughs all around and I love the new OP.

If anything, the service this episode provides has shown us that she has a more beautiful bottom.

Which I'm loving, since I find "bottoms" very attractive.

ReneeBurossamu

2009-06-18, 14:03

GEEZ. The raws come out really fast.

Ithekro

2009-06-18, 14:08

Its Haruhi...some of these people have waited three year for this...they want it badly.

Dakota

2009-06-18, 14:23

The RAW is out, but very slow. I'm just helping the boat float. Nice boat.

eternal_bliss

2009-06-18, 14:29

At least we know that there will be a new episode for next week. Though it totally messed up the predicted schedule. I was hoping that they would include Snow Mountain Syndrome in the broadcast. I always liked that one.

Sheba

2009-06-18, 14:34

I am kinda happy that it is a 2-parts, this was a good episode as far as adaptation goes.

khryoleoz

2009-06-18, 14:41

One of my favorite side stories is finally here. Come on AFK. I'm waiting for ya.

Yuki is surely bored... 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 2 3 4
You know, if I could bowl with that precision, I'd be a frickin genius.

Dakota

2009-06-18, 14:44

One of my favorite side stories is finally here. Come on AFK. I'm waiting for ya.

Aren't we all?

dnab

2009-06-18, 14:51

Well, there goes the braketology for the S2 schedule predictions. The way this episode is shown, there HAS to be another full episode to counterpoint. And notice how time flies in 1/2 hour even for a short story. We may have to extend eps counts for Sigh and, especially, Disappearance, which means some short stories may not make it on screen.

All the better, put those eps direct to Blu-ray and sell a ton of discs.

SidVicious

2009-06-18, 15:07

Yuki + Yukata = pure win :D

Jiggy

2009-06-18, 15:27

Aren't we all?I'll take practically anything to start, but yeah, a.f.k. will definitely be the one I stick with in the end.

SaraFilipa

2009-06-18, 15:57

I'm waiting for a subbed version, but I have to say that I love the new opening. :D

Kaoru Chujo

2009-06-18, 16:08

Very enjoyable episode, with all the little hallmarks of SHnY humor.

Hirano Aya really shone, for me, her energetic voice helping Haruhi give the episode its forward motion.

I liked the OP animation, but Yamakan it ain't. Hirano's singing has some drive, and is better than in Bouken Desho Desho, but the song's still just okay for me, hearing it for the first time.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-18, 16:23

Don't forget her top-heavy assets. :heh: I'm repeatedly watching the new OP and they surely make her more top-heavy. :)
Allot of illustrations do portray Haruhi as being moderately busty. (http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3573/84815375.jpg)

My personal fave shot in the episode was when Haruhi climbs out of the pool...nice hips. I'll have to screen shot it when higher definition comes out.

C.A.

2009-06-18, 16:30

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-18, 17:06

Yea Haruhi really did get alot of improvement to her hips, its becoming her main asset, they're showing it in the OP and throughout the episode lol

Speaking of that particular shot in the OP, anyone else notice the student sitting to Haruhi's right, visible for a split second?

That's the classmate with brown pigtails and glasses, (forget her name...) and I'm 90% sure that is her seat.

DETAILS.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-18, 17:13

Yea Haruhi really did get alot of improvement to her hips, its becoming her main asset, they're showing it in the OP and throughout the episode lol

Mikuru has the boobs, so Haruhi will get the butt, they seem to separate the assets for the female characters nowadays.
I suppose that's something noticeable in some illustrations also... (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/173/66513761.jpg)

C.A.

2009-06-18, 17:22

Speaking of that particular shot in the OP, anyone else notice the student sitting to Haruhi's right, visible for a split second?

That's the classmate with brown pigtails and glasses, (forget her name...) and I'm 90% sure that is her seat.

DETAILS.She is everyone's favourite classmate, she probably has more fanart than any other classmate.

So it seems Haruhi has had her butt as the main asset all the while, but now they've made it HD. Her butt gets more details now, just look at the part when she's catching cicadas.

Anyway Yuki has great skill in finding rare lifeforms like Heracles and giant earthworms lol

The part where Mikuru gets a worm is hilarious.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-18, 17:27

She is everyone's favourite classmate, she probably has more fanart than any other classmate.

You mean this (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9461/f77f8e581438610e4a8ae89.jpg) chick?

Yeah, she's cute.

So it seems Haruhi has had her butt as the main asset all the while, but now they've made it HD. Her butt gets more details now, just look at the part when she's catching cicadas.
And I am perfectly fine with this.

A nice rear and hips are what I consider really attractive in a body. Boobs are nice, but still secondary.

GuidoHunter_Toki

2009-06-18, 17:31

A nice rear and hips are what I consider really attractive in a body. Boobs are nice, but still secondary.

Same here.

Speaking of that particular shot in the OP, anyone else notice the student sitting to Haruhi's right, visible for a split second?

That's the classmate with brown pigtails and glasses, (forget her name...) and I'm 90% sure that is her seat.

DETAILS.

You must have really good eyesight or some good freeze frames, because while I did notice a person there, no matter how many times I slowly skimmed through the OP at that moment I couldn't notice any additional details like brown hair or pigtails.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-18, 17:37

Same here.
...and it honestly took me 10 minutes before I noticed your avatar...

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-18, 17:46

You must have really good eyesight or some good freeze frames, because while I did notice a person there, no matter how many times I slowly skimmed through the OP at that moment I couldn't notice any additional details like brown hair or pigtails.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/Kaisos/Naruzaki.png

There we go.

Her name is Naruzaki, by the way, and she's a member of both the art club and of a small clique of four other girls in the class.

ReneeBurossamu

2009-06-18, 18:11

I find that shot of the group sleeping on the train ride back really cute and endearing. I'm not sure why... *screencaps*

GuidoHunter_Toki

2009-06-18, 18:28

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/Kaisos/Naruzaki.png

There we go.

Her name is Naruzaki, by the way, and she's a member of both the art club and of a small clique of four other girls in the class.

So will we possibly be seeing any of her in upcoming episodes. I haven't read the novels far enough to know if she has the chance of showing up soon in accordance to where the anime is in relation to the novel's story.

Vexx

2009-06-18, 18:50

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-18, 18:54

Caught an FLV version (very small)...... I'll just note that Haruhi has a rather dramatic shirt with "69" in huge font and chuckle at what I assume is the implicit "engrish".

I'm very sure that the shirt is the staff's way of mocking Aya Hirano (http://generationotaku.net/images/tidbits/0408/hirano.jpg).

Jintor

2009-06-18, 18:59

How precisely Nagato can look poker-faced while being dragged forwards into a pool of water I'll never know.

I mean, besides that she's an alien and whatnot.

/edit Man, I didn't really realise how awkward Nagato looks in school uniform while the rest of the SOS-Brigade is in casual clothes. Wow.

Jiggy

2009-06-18, 19:00

Just saw it and wow.
Wow.

...Wow.

I'm seriously impressed by how much I liked this episode considering which events were happening in it and how they handled them in relation to the light novels. (i.e. What they included and didn't.) Usually I'm completely against playing up any kind of normalcy in Haruhi stories, and slice-of-life rarely works for me in any series--never mind this one.

In this case, though, Aya Hirano's voicework and all the fabulous new background music won me over effortlessly, contributing so much to helping me understand how deeply Haruhi's invested in making her friends and her group successful--and, more importantly, sympathizing with her and supporting that goal. For the first time, I'm thinking I might still like Haruhi if she were more of a normal girl, and that feels odd to me since I almost never appreciate anybody except weirdo quirky characters and since I get annoyed with Kyon's light novel narration about wanting her to be more regular.

But this is anime. I can blame it on Aya Hirano, blame it on the charming music, or blame it on simply being a different medium not so dominated by Kyon, but I do think I liked her with her indomitable We'll Find Fun No Matter What self just as much as her usual indomitable We'll Find Aliens No Matter What self.

Needless to say, I'm so, so eagerly awaiting next week's episode. Can't wait to see how they handle it.

Jintor

2009-06-18, 19:07

You mean this (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9461/f77f8e581438610e4a8ae89.jpg) chick?

Yeah, she's cute.

Here's my 10 second impression: Miyuki.

Oh man, Kyon and his bike full of explosives is lulz.

Dakota

2009-06-18, 19:35

Oh man, Kyon and his bike full of explosives is lulz.

Gif image would be win.

Jintor

2009-06-18, 19:58

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif

Roger Rambo

2009-06-18, 20:01

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif
And thus crack was born...

What the fuck.

swtrooper42

2009-06-18, 20:11

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-18, 20:13

And subs are already out. Even though I understand the fanaticism of Haruhist quite intimately know (since I am one) it still amazes me that a sub is available when the files are only 10 hours old. They work fast, gotta admit that.

...I would not trust the Mazui subs, if those are the ones you're talking about. The tracker is from "herpes.deepbone.net".

swtrooper42

2009-06-18, 20:16

Oh ho, those guys.

I'm watching a video rather then downloading it. They even subbed the opening.
Seems to describes Haruhi's attitude quite accurately.

khryoleoz

2009-06-18, 20:18

I love this episode so much. It was great spending some lazy, leisurely time with the endearing cast. I kinda wish I was there with them, along with SNSD.

Jiggy

2009-06-18, 20:41

...I would not trust the Mazui subs, if those are the ones you're talking about. The tracker is from "herpes.deepbone.net".There's a different tracker up for Mazui too now. (Not sure if it was there when you posted...)

I love this episode so much. It was great spending some lazy, leisurely time with the endearing cast.This reminds me: yeah, I also loved seeing the characters in such casual settings. Strange since I really didn't care for the Lone Island Syndrome settings and episodes, but they were given more things to do in Endless Eight and the environments, outfits, and character goals were all constantly changing to make things a little more dynamic.

Dakota

2009-06-18, 21:07

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif

I love you.

ReneeBurossamu

2009-06-18, 21:18

Yay, subs.

relentlessflame

2009-06-18, 21:30

EDIT: I removed 20 posts.

ATTENTION NOVEL READERS:
NO future event spoilers are permitted in episode threads EVEN BEHIND SPOILER TAGS. If you want to speculate about what may happen in future episodes, please go to the speculation thread. I shouldn't have to explain why this is important.

swtrooper42

2009-06-18, 22:01

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif
GATE OF BABYLON!!!:heh:
I like how Haruhi runs across the screen at the end.

Jintor

2009-06-18, 22:03

It's from the Avatar/Sig thread, made by... um... Game8910, so just remember that. ==;;

Where exactly are they? I think they're on a big field or something, but there sure is a lot of flat space. Must be some empty land near a highway or something.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-18, 22:08

Where exactly are they? I think they're on a big field or something, but there sure is a lot of flat space. Must be some empty land near a highway or something.

We'll have to wait for the crazy people with cameras to tell us exactly where in Nishinomiya this actually is.

GuidoHunter_Toki

2009-06-18, 22:13

Its just some field outside of town or a large park.

kniteowl

2009-06-18, 23:06

hm not sure if I should be posting this in this thread but did you guys notice the symbolic number of cicadas that each character caught?

Mikuru = 1 (Volume 1 = Melancholy)
Yuki = 4 (Volume 4 = Disappearance)
Koizumi = 7 (Volume 7 = Intrigues)
Kyon = 9 (Volume 9 = Dissociation)

And Finally Haruhi = 12 (Next main story arc possibly)
Strangely enough 1, 4, 7 & 9 are the main story arcs and they happen to capture that same number of cicadas... coincidence?

Kaioshin Sama

2009-06-18, 23:09

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif

Hey I know this attack from Super Robot Wars D.

Game8910

2009-06-18, 23:27

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif

heh...I made that .gif XD

StarRodMan

2009-06-18, 23:31

Hmm, interesting to see a mundane story for Haruhi for once. I haven't read the novels, so I only have a basic idea of this story, but I can't wait for what could happen in the next part.

Jintor

2009-06-18, 23:56

heh...I made that .gif XD

You are so thanked for doing so, it's perfect. :D

binjuice

2009-06-19, 00:09

The episode was descent enough - plainly a filler for a time passing by setup. "summer holiday episode" but what it did well was show us how Kyon is under Haruhi's thumb like nothing else and he fails at summer Homework just like every other male high school student =P

Was fun, plenty of fan service (not panty orientated though, yay - i don't exactlty like getting panty shots throughout an anime) and had its lol moments - yes that wonderful gif :D

dragon4dudes

2009-06-19, 00:16

yay, a gif!:D

So, anyways, must watch the rest of EE.

DragoonKain3

2009-06-19, 00:23

After all that's out of the world with every other episode of Haruhi, having an ordinary one still is enjoyable nonetheless. Heck, maybe I enjoyed it more because of the contrast with every other episode there is, just like how enjoyable the school festival and the last episode was of last seasons.

Mirrinus

2009-06-19, 00:25

Don't know why, but I was pretty tickled to see all those physics terms and equations in the OP again, just like with the first season's. It just somehow strikes my fancy.

Also, yay for yutakas.

Rice_slayer

2009-06-19, 00:37

Been awhile since I read the story, somehow it's different from what I read. Classic though and yes, they are defiantly putting more hip/butt style to Haruhi(I'll join the ass ketchum group :P). Best part was the work on Mikuru's chest, Kyon "I'll retrieve it!". 9.5/10, I wanted a 1-episode, next one should be interesting just to see how they do it.

Fenrir_valindri

2009-06-19, 01:09

New OP is lovely, I was quite entertained by it. I like the first one better but this one definitely has its own charm.

As for the Episode itself, I'm honestly surprised they split it into two episodes but the overall effect should be quite pleasing to the fans. I can't wait for Disappearance and Snow Mountain Syndrome though. :heh:

Bolton

2009-06-19, 01:13

Damn it, I didn't even realize this was airing! I have to get back in the anime watching groove again.

dkellis

2009-06-19, 02:27

I see we have ascended. (To Current Series.)

An idle thought made me rewatch the episode to check something: Yuki truly is a lady of few words, with a total of four this episode. "Kore" and "katta" regarding the mask, "sou" regarding the beetle, and "hai" when trying to give out balloons.

She must be saving up for the inevitable infodump later.

Vexx

2009-06-19, 02:36

Aye, when she illuminates just what was going on during that "simple summertime fun" episode it ought to be an epic Yuki moment. In the meantime, we can just lose ourselves in her eyes.

Sheba

2009-06-19, 04:01

I was more mesmerized by her spin in the innertube at the swimming pool.

C.A.

2009-06-19, 05:20

Hey I know this attack from Super Robot Wars D."Big O! SHOOOW TIIIMEE!!! This is a gift from me, MISSILE PAARTY!!"

I was reminded of some other mecha though.

Kaioshin Sama

2009-06-19, 05:28

"Big O! SHOOOW TIIIMEE!!! This is a gift from me, MISSILE PAARTY!!"

I was reminded of some other mecha though.

No it's not a Valkyrie if that's what you mean. No Itano Circus.

C.A.

2009-06-19, 05:53

No it's not a Valkyrie if that's what you mean. No Itano Circus.I was reminded of ACE3's main character unit, Exblau Form T, the funnel weapon pack.

Besides using its funnels as remote weapons, you can fire them exactly like what Kyon did, plus the beams are homing.

*Forte*

2009-06-19, 05:57

Yuki in this ep = pwnage.
And the OP was better than the ED also. Kyon is so like me never be able to do the stupid homework :))

MeoTwister5

2009-06-19, 05:57

Concurrently I have no idea how everyone's watching this when I struggle to find any trace of it online. Subbed anyway.

Klashikari

2009-06-19, 06:08

And no one should tell: as seen in all guidelines in our forums, any request or offer for raws aren't allowed.

Miyuki-ism

2009-06-19, 06:23

Well it's on you tube, all 3 parts subbed.

-Sho-

2009-06-19, 07:14

Good summer vaccation .

They were cute .
Lol when Kyon throw the fireworks it was like a gundam who throw missiles XD
Finally , he did his homework in the last day XD (yeah like me too , i always did my homework the last day )
Ahah his sister who play the console and he join too ^^

jonli

2009-06-19, 07:28

Although more Haruhi is good, I don't exactly see the point of this episode.

Does it serve any purpose in the story? Is this like a setup for the Sigh arc??

C.A.

2009-06-19, 07:47

Although more Haruhi is good, I don't exactly see the point of this episode.

Does it serve any purpose in the story? Is this like a setup for the Sigh arc??You'll see the point of the episode very soon, it will blow your mind.

jonli

2009-06-19, 07:51

You'll see the point of the episode very soon, it will blow your mind.

Hahaha! I was about to Wiki it! Now that you said that, I'm not going to.

It better blow my mind sir! Or else I'll need to have a word with you!!!! :p

C.A.

2009-06-19, 07:55

Hahaha! I was about to Wiki it! Now that you said that, I'm not going to.

It better blow my mind sir! Or else I'll need to have a word with you!!!! :pBelieve me, it will be something you totally didn't expect from all the simple fun and slice of life. You'll soon learn why so many people love Endless Eight.

And yea, it also adds up to Sighs.

Shizzon

2009-06-19, 07:59

took a while to find a version i could watch but its a good episode. i like the new OP and i can't wait for more new eps of Haruhi-sama. *the ep was win at swimsuits*

Solachinx

2009-06-19, 08:44

I thought this episode was good. Also, non-novel readers, the slice-of-life aspect is important, for it lead up to the stuff that's going to happen next episode.

Rice_slayer

2009-06-19, 09:19

Anyone else like the part in the new OP with Shami/Kyon's sister, Kunikida and Tanguchi, then the computer club doing the "I dont know" shrug, I think its pretty funny! The art style is different from first season, much softer this time, and concentrating on uhmmm feminine Assets :P.

Game8910

2009-06-19, 09:22

well KyoAni's animation staff did change quite a bit over 3 years

Soelke

2009-06-19, 10:03

That was a pretty peaceful episode (not for Kyo, though) in terms of crazy other-worldly stuff. I really like KyoAni's slice-of-life episodes ^-^

Miyuki-ism

2009-06-19, 10:21

Well I watch Lucky Star too so I quite enjoyed this episode, the next one is on the 25th right?

And I was wondering if it's a all possible to get the OP and ED songs in full, what are they even called?

M.Marangio

2009-06-19, 10:35

And I was wondering if it's a all possible to get the OP and ED songs in full, what are they even called?

OP is "Super Driver", LACM-4631, release date July 22.
ED is "Tomare!" (止マレ！), LACM-4640, release date August 25/26.

See http://lantis.jp/special/haruhi/

Arrnea

2009-06-19, 10:43

OP is "Super Driver", LACM-4631, release date July 22.
ED is "Tomare!" (止マレ！), LACM-4640, release date August 25/26.

See http://lantis.jp/special/haruhi/

Funny that they'd release the OP first, when it was the ED that the world at large saw first.
More Haruhi madness.

ssangchu

2009-06-19, 10:51

I love this episode so much. It was great spending some lazy, leisurely time with the endearing cast. I kinda wish I was there with them, along with SNSD.
THIS. The episode made me want to grab my friends, buy cheap fireworks and sparklers and light them at the beach. I can't wait to see what they will do with next week OT, but I can also imagine learning Gee with Haruhi or something LOL I'm sure Itsuki would be fabulous at it~ XD

Jill-Jênn

2009-06-19, 10:55

Hey, I have spelling corrections for the new subs, where do you think I can find Mazui to show them to him?

Dakota

2009-06-19, 11:34

Hey, I have spelling corrections for the new subs, where do you think I can find Mazui to show them to him?

Nowhere. This guy does rushed subs to bring service, I think. That's why subs were up within eight hours from the airing in Japan. But you won't find his site anywhere ever.

What an enigma. Just wait for a.f.k. to do the /good/ subs or watch Coal/gg's definitely-not-as-good subs.

+edit+...ALSO "Mazui" literally means "it's awful" in Japanese. Go figure.

Stardust Romance

2009-06-19, 12:44

It's grand that Haruhi is officially back but I found this episode mediorce.

It was still enjoyable though and fits into the perfect time for summer.
Loved the slice-of-life and watching Mikuru being helpless as ever xD

And like Kyon, I never finish my summer assignments on time.
I wait for the last minute :)

( and end up failing in some cases D; )

Kirarakim

2009-06-19, 14:55

I really enjoyed this episode. I read the novel for this but its been so long that I forgot the events of this story but it did come rushing back to me so now I look forward to how they will handle the next episode.

As an adaption I think they did a good job. Watching the slice of life aspects are a whole lot more fun than reading about them. I think they did a really good job of bringing the moments to life so to speak.

My favorite moment was definitely when Yuki bought the mask and when Haruhi let the cicadas go. :p

Soelke

2009-06-19, 15:08

Wait for the next one.

Addendum: Assuming you haven't read the story in the novel already.

Well, I already know what happens during the summer, but compared to some of the other situations this is considerably subtle. (In my opinion, at least)

Change of Pace

2009-06-19, 17:11

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/warpstar99/Picture1-16.png
KOIZUMI: "THIS IS HOW YOU CATCH CICADAS WITH FLAIR."

stubby42

2009-06-19, 17:43

Vexx

2009-06-19, 17:47

Kind of makes you wonder how far from the future she is, eh? :)

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-19, 17:48

For example she was un familar with traditional Japanese dress, so does that mean she isnt Japanese (is she from another country we'd be familar with in our time frame)? or does it mean that in the future Japan doesnt exist as a country?

Mikuru is probably Japanese, or at least looks it. Her hair is described as "brown" in the novels...

She also seemed to be pretty un familar with fire works, which is strange because fire works have existed for thousands of years (as has traditional japanese dress), its not like they'll suddenly disapear in the future.

Her lack of familiarity with modern physical technology suggests she's from thousands of years into the future where they no longer use physical technology at all.

Suika-Esper

2009-06-19, 17:49

relentlessflame

2009-06-19, 17:55

Deleted 12 more posts, and will start issuing infractions to people who didn't listen after last time. Novel Readers: do not so much as mention what will happen in future episodes. No Hints. Final warning.

Ithekro

2009-06-19, 18:04

I thought someone discribed Mikuru as a foreigner once.

Fireworks could be as simple as them being illegal in her time, and/or she's spent most of her time indoors (like say on an Arcology) and thus never been in a place that used fireworks. Would also explain why she has no clue about boats.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-19, 18:05

I enjoyed this episode but it posed some pretty interesting questions regarding Mikuru and her history.

For example she was un familar with traditional Japanese dress, so does that mean she isnt Japanese (is she from another country we'd be familar with in our time frame)? or does it mean that in the future Japan doesnt exist as a country?

She also seemed to be pretty un familar with fire works, which is strange because fire works have existed for thousands of years (as has traditional japanese dress), its not like they'll suddenly disapear in the future.In lone island syndrome (at least the novel) Mikuru expressed curiosity/astoundment when she saw a boat. The time period Mikuru potentially comes from could be as far removed from us as we are from stone age people.

I thought someone discribed Mikuru as a foreigner once.

Fireworks could be as simple as them being illegal in her time, and/or she's spent most of her time indoors (like say on an Arcology) and thus never been in a place that used fireworks. Would also explain why she has no clue about boats.
Or everyone is interfaced with machines.

stubby42

2009-06-19, 18:06

Mikuru is probably Japanese, or at least looks it. Her hair is described as "brown" in the novels...

Well are you talking about ethnicity or country of birth? unless the subs are wrong she says

so this is the traditional dress of this country

Which implies shes not from Japan.

As for the idea that she'd be unfamilar of fire works, I suppose its possible but to be honnest technological changes and cultural changes dont really work like that. Its a cultural activity practiced the world over, technology only disapears when something better replaces it, fire works serve no pracitcal purpose so nothing is likely to replace them or something happens that causes us to loose knowledge (think Roman empire to the dark ages) but that seems unlikely because our ability to produce information and record it has grown dramatically.

I thought someone discribed Mikuru as a foreigner once.

Ok, that might make more sense I really want to start reading the novels but I dont have the money to buy them.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-19, 18:24

I thought someone discribed Mikuru as a foreigner once.

Don't remember this at all.

Fireworks could be as simple as them being illegal in her time, and/or she's spent most of her time indoors (like say on an Arcology) and thus never been in a place that used fireworks. Would also explain why she has no clue about boats.

...Everyone in our time over the age of four knows about boats. She didn't even know how boats WORKED. This implies that boats have become obsolete in the future.

Or everyone is interfaced with machines.

I have this crack theory that the espers' Agency will eventually gain the technology the aliens use and give rise to the time travelers, who use biotech and live in machine worlds.

Well are you talking about ethnicity or country of birth? unless the subs are wrong she says

I'm saying she looks Japanese. She might actually be European for all we know, but she looks Japanese enough not to stand out.

Supposedly, far, far in the future, as people across the world interbreed, we will all eventually have brown hair and olive skin. Like Greeks.

As for the idea that she'd be unfamilar of fire works, I suppose its possible but to be honnest technological changes and cultural changes dont really work like that. Its a cultural activity practiced the world over, technology only disapears when something better replaces it, fire works serve no pracitcal purpose so nothing is likely to replace them or something happens that causes us to loose knowledge (think Roman empire to the dark ages) but that seems unlikely because our ability to produce information and record it has grown dramatically.

Advanced holographic technology could easily replace pretty explosives.

ReddyRedWolf

2009-06-19, 18:38

Or by Quantum leap explanation... Her brain is Swiss cheese.

typhonsentra

2009-06-19, 19:03

Are there any decent subs out for this thing yet? I'm surprised no one's working on something this anticipated.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-19, 19:25

As for the idea that she'd be unfamilar of fire works, I suppose its possible but to be honnest technological changes and cultural changes dont really work like that. Its a cultural activity practiced the world over, technology only disapears when something better replaces it, fire works serve no pracitcal purpose so nothing is likely to replace them or something happens that causes us to loose knowledge (think Roman empire to the dark ages) but that seems unlikely because our ability to produce information and record it has grown dramatically.
Unless of course they're a post singularity civilization that has been interfaced with computers for the last thousand generations. The trivial purposeless entertainment of a civilization like that would be mind bogglingly different than anything we could think of.

In this civilization, knowing about boats and chemical explosives of any kind either makes you a history buff of a crazy survivalist.

Advanced holographic technology could easily replace pretty explosives.
You don't need holograms if you've got a computer plugged directly into your head that can make you see shit.

Heatth

2009-06-19, 19:34

Unless of course they're a post singularity civilization that has been interfaced with computers for the last thousand generations. The trivial purposeless entertainment of a civilization like that would be mind bogglingly different than anything we could think of.

very advanced, e different, computer, BTW. Mikuru didn't know how use a regular one in Day of Sagitarius.

You don't need holograms if you've got a computer plugged directly into your head that can make you see shit.

Is more or less how imagine Mikuru's era technology.

Vexx

2009-06-19, 20:06

Are there any decent subs out for this thing yet? I'm surprised no one's working on something this anticipated.

There is a sub or two (sloppy speed subs). I'd assume the usual turn-around for the bigger groups. I sincerely doubt "no one's working" on it. ....

swtrooper42

2009-06-19, 20:22

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/warpstar99/Picture1-16.png
KOIZUMI: "THIS IS HOW YOU CATCH CICADAS WITH FLAIR."
Koizumi just shows that once again he is FABULOUS.

Eak

2009-06-19, 21:16

Everything beyond this episode is new right?

Been away since the first episode so I am a bit behind.

Xellos-_^

2009-06-19, 21:16

i remember catch cicadas as kid. I don't remember ever eating the cicadas but cicadas larva were good eating.

Heatth

2009-06-19, 21:21

Everything beyond this episode is new right?

Been away since the first episode so I am a bit behind.

No. We will have 4 old episoes in a row, eventually. The next few, probably 4, will be new, however, then this old ones, and then only new ones.

Mirrinus

2009-06-19, 21:30

I must say, I really enjoyed the background music for several of the scenes in this episode. It was a nice touch, and gave each event a different feel.

Haruhi is even more of a living fireball of energy than I remembered her being.

And poor Kyon, complaining about having too much fun with the SOS-dan during the summer...some of us have full-time work, you know!

Jiggy

2009-06-19, 21:40

Although more Haruhi is good, I don't exactly see the point of this episode.

Does it serve any purpose in the story? Is this like a setup for the Sigh arc??Well, I can't answer that either way since it would be spoiler territory--but whether this particular case does or doesn't serve a purpose, I don't know why you'd necessarily expect everything to lead up to something else in Haruhi. :P

I mean, I'd say that in the original fourteen episodes they could have cut at least four out of Boredom, the Lone Island Syndrome set, Day of Sagittarius, Mysterique Sign, and Someday in the Rain and nothing serious would be lost in the overall story arc. (Though I do love two of those episodes very much.) Shoot, they could probably cut five if the one remaining was either Boredom, Day of Sagitarrius, or maybe Someday in the Rain, since those helped further develop the Haruhi/Kyon trust relationship which some fans find so pivotal.

I must say, I really enjoyed the background music for several of the scenes in this episode. It was a nice touch, and gave each event a different feel.Absolutely. It really further established just how important soundtracks and musical direction are to me.

Mirrinus

2009-06-19, 22:01

Poor Yuki, having to go through all that abuse in this episode. Look at all that nasty stuff they said about aliens while stargazing!

Also...were Kyon and Imouto seriously playing Tetris? Or probably one of its many puzzle variants...

To be honest, this episode's title surprised me a little. I expected it to be a bit more like...episode 6's of last season (broadcast order). I wonder what the next new episode will be called...

Jethro

2009-06-19, 22:48

I liked this episode :D

It's just that I expected to see more! :/

Kaoru Chujo

2009-06-19, 23:02

There is a sub or two (sloppy speed subs). I'd assume the usual turn-around for the bigger groups. I sincerely doubt "no one's working" on it. ....Hey, don't put down speed subs. I've looked at part of Mazui's, and what I saw seemed pretty good to me.

I'm a big fan of quick subs, even when there are a few errors or infelicities. The "bigger groups" aren't immune from errors, either. And I am so grateful to the groups that can get a sub out the door within 10-24 hours of the broadcast. This is the norm for the first Chinese subs, and I don't see why we can't get English subs at near the same pace -- as we have been doing more and more over the past year or so, thanks to people denigrated as "speed subbers."

Myssa Rei

2009-06-19, 23:11

Oh my, I'm delightfully tickled by the new OP, but echoing Kaoru Chujo's earlier comment I feel it's missing Yamakan's touch a tad.

Mmm. Two-parter. Can't comment more, else I'll be hit by the ban bat, so I'll just say I enjoyed this episode. Haha.

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-19, 23:39

I liked the new episode, gave it a 9, I like that with all the fireworks going on, Yuki was fixated on the worm/snake one. Were the frog suits a kind of reference to the frog suits in the Lucky Star OVA? Like look similar, at least the colors and patterns on the frogs. I wonder if that guy is really Haruhi's uncle or is it "uncle" in a older acquintence sense?

Vexx

2009-06-19, 23:42

I didn't look at Mazui's so can't comment on theirs. The one I downloaded had some pretty serious errors in timing and translation. There are groups that do a fabulous job at "speedsubs" but anything under 18hrs seems to get pretty problematic as to value.

Game8910

2009-06-19, 23:46

imo Mazui's was watchable

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-19, 23:50

The sub I was a stream by prettydamnawesome, at least I think that's the groups name

Jintor

2009-06-20, 00:09

I liked the new episode, gave it a 9, I like that with all the fireworks going on, Yuki was fixated on the worm/snake one. Were the frog suits a kind of reference to the frog suits in the Lucky Star OVA?

I don't have the Ova on hand at the moment so I can't really confirm or deny it, but Lucky Star tends to make Haruhi references, and generally not the other way around. The Frog suit has been around in Haruhi for quite a while - most episodes set chronologically after Endless Eight (Like Someday in the Rain) have it on the clothes rack in the clubhouse.

Ascaloth

2009-06-20, 00:11

Urgh. I call this Episode 12, but the ASuki mods are calling it Episode 2. Talk about a numbers mindfuck. >_<

In any case, Episode 12 (2) article is up:

[RIUVA] Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu (2009), Episode 12: Endless Eight (http://www.riuva.com/?p=1437)

Without talking about future spoilers, this episode was a nice one by itself, although certainly not at the heights which we all know SHnY is capable of. 8/10.

Kid Ying

2009-06-20, 00:12

Although more Haruhi is good, I don't exactly see the point of this episode.

Does it serve any purpose in the story? Is this like a setup for the Sigh arc??
I don't see it either, but i really loved that episode, in fact, it's already one of my favorites. There's nothing big happening, but life is like this. It's not like there's always something exciting happening. I liked that episode because of this, cause highschool students do get around to do their stuff and even if you are in the SOS dan, you're no exception, you still are human(well, except for Yuki, hehe) and still have to goof around.

Loved. Loved that one. Besides, the fact that Yuki bought a children's mask made it look like this was the birth of the Otaku Yuki in Haruhi chan(at least for me) and that's awesome.

10/10 and i think this is the first 10/10 that i ever gave to anything here in Asuki. Can't wait for the other ones.

Ascaloth, technically, this is the episode 2 of the new season, but in the end it's the episode 12 in a whole.

CrowKenobi

2009-06-20, 01:00

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/warpstar99/Picture1-16.png
KOIZUMI: "THIS IS HOW YOU CATCH CICADAS WITH FLAIR."Koizumi just shows that once again he is FABULOUS.Insert Hosaka (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MinamiKe) laugh here? :D

I don't have the Ova on hand at the moment so I can't really confirm or deny it, but Lucky Star tends to make Haruhi references, and generally not the other way around. The Frog suit has been around in Haruhi for quite a while - most episodes set chronologically after Endless Eight (Like Someday in the Rain) have it on the clothes rack in the clubhouse.And besides, wasn't the frog suits in the LS OVA a nod towards Kerero Gunsou instead? :D

:cool:

Reckoner

2009-06-20, 01:05

As a reader of the novels, all I can say is that I happily await next week's episode.

But I further look foward to Dissapearance being animated.

This week earns a 7/10, as I know next week will be better and I shall reserve a better rating for it.

Jintor

2009-06-20, 01:11

Insert Hosaka (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MinamiKe) laugh here? :D

And besides, wasn't the frog suits in the LS OVA a nod towards Kerero Gunsou instead? :D

:cool:

Oh, and according to Haruhi-chan, it's a bear suit anyway. xD

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-20, 01:11

Yeah I've seen Mikuru's in the one episode, I was talking about the frog suits everyone else wore,

Jill-Jênn

2009-06-20, 01:13

Well, like what I posted on the 2009 Re-Launch topic, here is the new opening piano version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wjMqRMc5Kg
Please tell me if you like it ^^'

Blaat

2009-06-20, 04:17

Fun episode, lovely reference to Itano's circus.

Also no matter how many times I've seen it I do find it curious that the characters can respond to Kyon's thoughts.

Vexx

2009-06-20, 05:29

Kind of makes you wonder if one answer is that he mutters unconsciously ...

Sackett

2009-06-20, 14:51

Caught an FLV version (very small)...... I'll just note that Haruhi has a rather dramatic shirt with "69" in huge font and chuckle at what I assume is the implicit "engrish". Fascinating, they played the storyline in this episode completely "straight".... I'm guessing the next episode is the equivalent of the "Nagato data spew" mind-blow we got in ep 5 of season one.

I'm very sure that the shirt is the staff's way of mocking Aya Hirano (http://generationotaku.net/images/tidbits/0408/hirano.jpg).

I don't know, on close examination Haruhi is wearing a shirt with "*69".

The holes in the 69 are stars.

So... I'm wondering if that is intentional... *69 ----> Plot of Endless Eight?

It seems to fit to me. Could they really be that subtle? If so I think it's pretty amazing.

Endless Twilight

2009-06-20, 16:16

That was a rather... uneventful episode. Visuals were pretty and music was nice, but overall it just felt kinda pointless.

I guess it being a two-parter they're leaving all the relevant events for next week. Which hopefully will make the episode more interesting than part 1.

ReneeBurossamu

2009-06-20, 17:25

69... who knew that even Haruhi would do that to us??

Anyway, since I've watched this episode for about the third time, I just noticed that Mikuru has said more to Nagato and Koizumi in two episodes than in the entire 14-episode first season. It's pretty annoying to see Mikuru transfer lines between just Kyon and Haruhi.

I like how this episode gave off a vibe that even though everyone is an "agent" from a faction, they're all civil and friends.

Sackett

2009-06-20, 19:24

Klashikari

2009-06-20, 19:33

Urgh. I call this Episode 12, but the ASuki mods are calling it Episode 2. Talk about a numbers mindfuck. >_<

We decided to put this kind of number style because:
1) most just want to check stuff related to the new season
2) Using "current" numbers used for this airing season will be even more confusing because we certainly won't create threads for episodes from the old season. Therefore, seeing threads like "Episode 8, Episode 12" out of nowhere wouldn't be exactly anything better.

Heatth

2009-06-20, 19:53

But wouldn't be better use both then? Still confusing, but less so.

Solachinx

2009-06-20, 20:39

Excuse me if I sound rude, but why not just use the title?

Heatth

2009-06-20, 20:42

snapte

2009-06-20, 21:43

Calling it episode 2 does make a lot more sense in my opinion, but it wouldn't hurt to have the official episode number in brackets or something.

quigonkenny

2009-06-21, 01:02

Because most people don't kown the episodes by title. For the most recents one there ar no problem, if this tread was called "Endless Eight" everyone would know that is the episode 12/02, because it is stiked. However, in few weeks it will not, and not al will know which"Endless Eight" is.
Sorry, but that makes no sense. Are you actually implying that weeks from now people are going to forget which episode is "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" (the one with the sticking the papers on the bamboo) or "Endless Eight" (the one that happens at the end of the eighth month, August), but they'll know them as Episode 1 or Episode 2 when there's up to twelve other new episodes that are similarly named?

relentlessflame

2009-06-21, 01:15

Sorry, but that makes no sense. Are you actually implying that weeks from now people are going to forget which episode is "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" (the one with the sticking the papers on the bamboo) or "Endless Eight" (the one that happens at the end of the eighth month, August), but they'll know them as Episode 1 or Episode 2 when there's up to twelve other new episodes that are similarly named?For what it's worth, "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" is a pretty memorable title, along with "Endless Eight", but for the most part I would be more likely to remember an episode by number/sequence than by title. Not all titles are equally memorable, plus the files don't generally have titles in them either. I suppose the ultimate ideal would be to have both number and title (as is a common standard on Japanese p2p), but that's just not the usual way in the English community.

At the end of the day, the way we're listing the episodes here in the forum is consistent with the way we list them on AnimeSuki proper. So, while all the arguments have some merit, we might as well be, at the very least, consistent with our own "parent site".

chinaboat

2009-06-21, 03:17

...

So, while all the arguments have some merit, we might as well be, at the very least, consistent with our own "parent site".

Feh, where's the fun in that? <grin>

Myssa Rei

2009-06-21, 03:34

Kind of makes you wonder if one answer is that he mutters unconsciously ...

Actually, one of the older theories on why Haruhi seems to be able to respond to Kyon's thoughts (which could be extended to the rest of the SOS-dan) is that, while he might think he's just snarkily thinking to himself, what's really happening is that he's actually unconsciously saying things out loud.

Kid Ying

2009-06-21, 03:38

Well, like what I posted on the 2009 Re-Launch topic, here is the new opening piano version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wjMqRMc5Kg
Please tell me if you like it ^^'
Wow, i loved it. It's really well made. I thought the upbeat of the music wasn't going to get nice in the piano, but you nailed it.

Actually, one of the older theories on why Haruhi seems to be able to respond to Kyon's thoughts (which could be extended to the rest of the SOS-dan) is that, while he might think he's just snarkily thinking to himself, what's really happening is that he's actually unconsciously saying things out loud.
So, Kyon is crazy then? :heh: And it's strange, because Kyon never reacts like "wow, she's reading my mind?" or something like that. It's really strange.

Myssa Rei

2009-06-21, 04:10

lazybum

2009-06-21, 04:17

Just what the hell was yuki playing with at the fireworks scene?

CaptGloval

2009-06-21, 04:18

You mean... THIS?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7760/kyon.gif

This made the episode for me. I literally clapped when they showed this. Two things on why it's more awesome than the usual Itano Circus (objectively, there's only one reason actually, but since I'm a Macross fanboy, I'll add another one):

1. "Kakizaki!" + camera zoom out at "missile" launch + explosions over a large area = It's a Macross tribute. And this time it's an in-episode one rather than the "Listen to my song!" / "Bomber!" back in 2006 at the end of Day of Sagittarius in the preview for Live Alive.

2. bike + toy rockets = It shows more or less how Ichiro Itano developed his Circus.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-21, 04:26

Speaking one's mind out loud doesn't really mean he's crazy -- a few of my friends do it in their unguarded moments too -- it's just that it's one of the more likely theories out there.

This really does make a lot of sense. Kyon has always been rather eccentric, despite his insistence that he's normal.

Just what the hell was yuki playing with at the fireworks scene?

Some kind of pyrotechnic toy, it appears. Maybe that's what happens when you bury a firework...?

Kid Ying

2009-06-21, 04:28

Speaking one's mind out loud doesn't really mean he's crazy -- a few of my friends do it in their unguarded moments too -- it's just that it's one of the more likely theories out there. Discounting the possibility that Haruhi might have an empathic link with Kyon (which might go some ways to explain why she seems to be able to read Kyon's mind), it doesn't really explain why everyone else can reply to Kyon's musings as well.A couple of times okay, but Kyon do that ALL the time. This doesn't work like this. Or maybe he just too honest and can't deny his thoughts and end up talking, hehe.

Kaioshin Sama

2009-06-21, 04:30

This made the episode for me. I literally clapped when they showed this. Two things on why it's more awesome than the usual Itano Circus (objectively, there's only one reason actually, but since I'm a Macross fanboy, I'll add another one):

1. "Kakizaki!" + camera zoom out at "missile" launch + explosions over a large area = It's a Macross tribute. And this time it's an in-episode one rather than the "Listen to my song!" / "Bomber!" back in 2006 at the end of Day of Sagittarius in the preview for Live Alive.

2. bike + toy rockets = It shows more or less how Ichiro Itano developed his Circus.

Despite the fact that it looks absolutely nothing like a proper Itano Circus. Where are the long winding missile trails?

CaptGloval

2009-06-21, 04:55

Despite the fact that it looks absolutely nothing like a proper Itano Circus. Where are the long winding missile trails?

Maybe the short duration doesn't do it much justice such that we don't see long winding missile trails. But I do see trails and they indicate erratic trajectory. Were you looking for the trails right before the explosions? As far as I remember in Macross, the missiles and trails do disappear shortly before we see the explosions over a large area.

I have an idea, let's just ask ghostlightning about this.

Jintor

2009-06-21, 05:31

Speaking one's mind out loud doesn't really mean he's crazy -- a few of my friends do it in their unguarded moments too -- it's just that it's one of the more likely theories out there. Discounting the possibility that Haruhi might have an empathic link with Kyon (which might go some ways to explain why she seems to be able to read Kyon's mind), it doesn't really explain why everyone else can reply to Kyon's musings as well.

There's some scenes where he's clearly not speaking out loud as he's narrating (leaving open the possibility that he simply says the words while he's off-camera).

Remember; what Kyon (/the camera) shows you isn't neccessarily what happens immediately; he has liberty to skip a few seconds back and forth, enough to screw with your brain

SSJiffy

2009-06-21, 06:41

Just what the hell was yuki playing with at the fireworks scene?

snake firework:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_snake_(firework) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_snake_%28firework%29)

"After lighting the small tablet, the firework starts smoking and an ash resembling a snake is expelled. They stay on the ground and do not emit sparks, flares, any form of projectiles, or any sound, but may release smoke." --wiki.

for fun:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103776

KaneDragon

2009-06-21, 10:05

Woah. Deleted posts galore, no doubt with the same concerns as I, but oh well.

Everything beyond this episode is new right?

Been away since the first episode so I am a bit behind.

I grabbed this list a while back from somewhere... Valid?
Apr 02 ep01 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 1
Apr 09 ep02 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 2
Apr 16 ep03 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 3
Apr 23 ep04 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 4
Apr 30 ep05 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 5
May 07 ep06 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 6
May 14 ep07 The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya
May 21 ep08 ** Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody (new)
May 28 ep09 Mysterique Sign
Jun 04 ep10 Remote Island Syndrome Part1
Jun 11 ep11 Remote Island Syndrome Part2
Jun 18 ep12 ** Endless Eight (new)
Jun 25 ep13 ** The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya 1 (New)
Jul 02 ep14 ** The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya 2 (New)
Jul 09 ep15 ** The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya 3 (New)
Jul 16 ep16 The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru Episode 00
Jul 23 ep17 Live A Live
Jul 30 ep18 The Day of Sagittarius
Aug 07 ep19 Someday in the rain
Aug 14 ep20 ** The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya 1 (New)
Aug 21 ep21 ** The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya 2 (New)
Aug 28 ep22 ** The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya 3 (New)
Sep 03 ep23 ** The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya 4 (New)
Sep 10 ep24 ** Charmed at First Sight Lover (new)
Sep 17 ep25 ** Snow Mountain Syndrome Part1 (new)
Sep 24 ep26 ** Snow Mountain Syndrome Part2 (new)
Oct 01 ep27 ** Where Did the Cat Go? (new)
Oct 08 ep28 ** Disappearance Epilogue (new)

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-21, 11:26

I still find it fascinating that of all the fire works available, Yuki is playing with the snake one.

chinaboat

2009-06-21, 12:37

I still find it fascinating that of all the fire works available, Yuki is playing with the snake one.

Well, there is something kinda mesmerizing about watching a snake relatively slowly "uncoil", the structure is constantly changing - perhaps that was the fascination.

relentlessflame

2009-06-21, 13:09

I grabbed this list a while back from somewhere... Valid?Well, there has been no officially-published schedule of episodes. In fact, it's a very-tightly kept secret, given that the episodes don't even contain next-episode previews. So that was just an early fan "best guess" based on what they knew of the novels, but nobody knows exactly how long the different arcs for the different novel stories will be.

So I guess the short answer is, treat it as a "good guess", but not as fact. Things are always subject to unexpected change (especially given that they're keeping it such a tight secret).

typhonsentra

2009-06-21, 14:51

Roger Rambo

2009-06-21, 15:15

An interesting thing Kyoto Animation has been doing with the series is making slight changes from the original script to have Haruhi act a little nicer to Kyon than she does in the novel equivalents of the scene (That or the B-T translations are just goofy). Like in Endless Eight when they go to get the yukata's she says Koizumi would look good in one but when she looks at him she gives an ugly expression (No such scene in the episode). Also, they always make sure to have her call out his name when trying to get the group's attention, and offering the Takoyaki to him first. Actually, they just make her more considerate in general. They even made a point of her mentioning Yuki's yukata too, when she usually just ignores her in the books.
In the novel she also comments how the pool stinks...where as in Baka tsuki she comments how it smells great.

But that thing with the Yukata is rather amusing, considering that Kyon was about the only person Haruhi knew who she wanted to take over to the new world(which she only wanted to change because he was flirting with someone else) unchanged...and then she's like "you look like shit!".

Hilarious.

Jintor

2009-06-21, 18:47

KyoAni is making Haruhi nicer. We must remember to thank them somehow.

I prefer a less jerky Haruhi myself.

CrowKenobi

2009-06-21, 22:04

a.f.k. sub of ep 2 is out! :D

:cool:

RandomGuy

2009-06-21, 22:49

More than anything else, I was really surprised in this episode by the undisguised and extremely iconic view of the Kobe waterfront shown during the fireworks show. I mean, they've never really made much of an effort to hide where the series is taking place, but I'm pretty sure it's the first time they've had such an unmistakable shot of a major Japanese city (not far by rail from the characters' hometown of Nishinomiya Anytown, Japan). It breaks the illusion (however flimsy) of the series taking place in a generic "Japanese" location, and brings with it all the built-in assumptions related to Kansai.

Just to prove my point, here's a picture of the real thing (Kobe Harborland ferris wheel just out of frame):
http://wikitravel.org/upload/en/5/54/Kobe_Port_Night.jpg

EDIT: Link fixed.

Jintor

2009-06-21, 22:58

not found on server.

Pity, I was interested.

RandomGuy

2009-06-21, 23:09

not found on server.

Pity, I was interested.

Sorry about that. Link should work now.

Tempura

2009-06-21, 23:09

This really does make a lot of sense. Kyon has always been rather eccentric, despite his insistence that he's normal.

If he's a normal, he would have just run for his life with all these crazy incidents all around him :rolleyes:

And besides, what normal people would agree to tie a bunch of fireworks on the butt of his bike? :heh:

CaptGloval

2009-06-21, 23:56

And besides, what normal people would agree to tie a bunch of fireworks on the butt of his bike? :heh:

As I've mentioned above, Ichiro Itano. And mecha fans are thankful that he did.

(Although from what I read, he put the fireworks in front not the butt of his bike.)

quigonkenny

2009-06-21, 23:57

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-22, 01:04

Just watched the AFK sub, great translation, compared to the two other versions I've seen

Daniel E.

2009-06-22, 02:42

Just watched the AFK sub, great translation, compared to the two other versions I've seen

Just watched it myself. Though, I actually waited for the a.f.k release. Didn't feel like downloading the same episode several times. :p

A sort of easygoing episode I must say. Was a bit disappointed to see Yuki in school uniform through several scenes since I like seeing the girls in plain clothing whenever the situation arrives.

I am also quite fond of the new opening, specially that part at the very end where Tsuruya and the rest of the characters do that no-no thingie.

Of course, I love everything Tsuruya does. Show me a scene of her reading the phone book and I'll probably find the moe in that too. :):p

Jintor

2009-06-22, 03:45

And besides, what normal people would agree to tie a bunch of fireworks on the butt of his bike? :heh:

What kind of people do you hang out with? : |

kenjiharima

2009-06-22, 04:16

TEMPURA!!! WHY?!!! lol :heh:

Just watched the subs. So that's what Haruhi is talking about then.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-22, 04:38

Good ep. Koizumi's bug catching ability was a definite plus, though I did find myself once again paying more attention to Mikuru than anyone else. Really hope that stops soon :heh:

7/10.

Was a bit disappointed to see Yuki in school uniform through several scenes since I like seeing the girls in plain clothing whenever the situation arrives.

It's Nagato. The school uniform is "plain clothing" for her.

Friday

2009-06-22, 04:49

Just watched the AFK sub, great translation, compared to the two other versions I've seen

same here.....

this was definitely a meloncholy episode!!!!!:D:cool::eyespin:

Kid Ying

2009-06-22, 07:44

KyoAni is making Haruhi nicer. We must remember to thank them somehow.

I prefer a less jerky Haruhi myself.
Me too. Haruhi is already a hard one most of the time. Besides, Yuki deserves all the compliment in the world. ;D

And i was disappointed to see Yuki in the school uniform too, but hey, it's Yuki. It almost looks like it's the only clothes she got(at least now she has an yukata. :) ).

Dop

2009-06-22, 09:58

Fantastic. Like the new opening with it's halftone very comic-like effects. I'm with Daniel E on the 'no-no' bit.

I loved Kyon's 'Itano Circus', although I wonder how many people might turn up in emergency with burns to their posterior attempting to emulate that feat.

So that's where the frog outfit came from.

Yuki + straw = adorable.

quigonkenny

2009-06-22, 11:23

Just saw the afk sub, and since they translate the credits, I noticed something somewhat interesting. Shouji Gatoh (Full Metal Panic! author) got the script credit. This wasn't his first Haruhi script, of course, as he scripted "Day of Sagittarius" during the "first season", and we all remember how well that one was adapted. Next episode should be good.

Daniel E.

2009-06-22, 11:24

It's Nagato. The school uniform is "plain clothing" for her.

Can't really argue there. She was already using it three years before school even started after all. :p

DJLowrider

2009-06-22, 12:45

Wow. Just wow. This episode reminded me of why I love this series so much. Love the new OP, and having a slice-of-life look at the SOS Brigade during summer vacation was just plain fun. But the bit that put this episode over the top for me was Kyon's tribute to Macross. Bicycle Macross missiles with a "Kakizaki!!!" to top it off...so much win I can't put it into words. 10/10 episode for me.

As a side note, I also waited for a.f.k.'s subs before downloading. I'm glad I waited, it was worth it.

And so many solo shots of Yuki. You'd almost think they're trying to tell us something about her... :D

Vexx

2009-06-22, 14:35

The funny thing is that Kyon's bicycle moment may have been a nod to Macross but,
1) it wasn't a strapped-on moment. Lots of people have done that with fireworks (hell, we used to do it with our cars)
2) NO knowledge of Macross was necessary nor did it seem out of character.

That's what I call a good easter egg. Its there for those who notice a connection and doesn't leave others saying "wtf?? o.0?"

I would never have thought it as a reference to anything - just part of the summer night's fun.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-22, 14:40

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-22, 14:43

... while I was kinda nervous about this week's episode, I think that has alleviated the problem :heh:

chikorita157

2009-06-22, 15:04

Episode 2 was entertaining, but not what I expected out of since it shows about the same summer activities they would in other series... Nevertheless, it was still a nicely done episode, but I can't give perfect marks since this episode haven't reach the expectations of Suzumiya Haruhi Season 2 yet...

Rating: 8.5/10 -> 9/10

Full Episode 2 Thoughts (http://chikorita157.net84.net/anime/blog/?p=1266)

Kyanme

2009-06-22, 15:51

So it totally didn't take me five minutes to find this section.

Totally... didn't.

Anyways, Itsuki's butt was in my face for around five seconds, which, on it's own, deserves a ten. However, that wasn't the point of the episode. On a whole, it was fun, but at the end it was kinda... "THAT'S IT?" It felt a little lackluster to me, I suppose, so an 8. It's a nice set up for next week.

Also, was I the only one expecting "I'll Be There For You" by The Remembrandts to start playing during the montage? ...Anyone? Anyone at all? :heh:

wittyusername

2009-06-22, 15:55

Also, was I the only one expecting "I'll Be There For You" by The Remembrandts to start playing during the montage? ...Anyone? Anyone at all? :heh:

You're not alone, although I didn't really expect it to play so much as think that it would be a better time than most to play the song.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-22, 16:21

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-22, 19:14

Give it time and there your wish will be granted on Youtube, for the Rembrants Haruhi video

Jintor

2009-06-22, 22:04

relentlessflame

2009-06-23, 00:34

(WHICH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT, NOT HIDEOUSLY OFF-TOPIC THINGS)I'm so convinced! :heh:

Moved the Music Video stuff to the... wait for it... ...Music Video thread. Shocking I know that we actually have a suitable place for most of the off-topic rambles that this thread just looooves to fall back into.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-23, 03:32

On the topic of Endless Eight (WHICH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT, NOT HIDEOUSLY OFF-TOPIC THINGS), who's really enjoying the new BGM for stuff? I mean it's great that we're hearing old tunes again (Heroine of Tragedy for one thing in BLR), but all this new BGM is fan-fluffing-tastic.

Yeah, it's really improved. The original only has a few REALLY good tracks (Itsumo no Fuukei, of course, comes to mind) but these new ones are all really good.

Has the music director changed?

Dakota

2009-06-23, 05:53

On the topic of Endless Eight (WHICH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT, NOT HIDEOUSLY OFF-TOPIC THINGS), who's really enjoying the new BGM for stuff? I mean it's great that we're hearing old tunes again (Heroine of Tragedy for one thing in BLR), but all this new BGM is fan-fluffing-tastic.

I actually like the new BGM, too. Pretty jazzy, but still in the same style as "S1."

But Pokemon BGM is my all time favorate. ):

Somnus

2009-06-23, 11:53

Vexx

2009-06-23, 12:15

"mikuru redirect" ... yeah, that was about as subtle as mud on Haruhi's part :) I'm surprised she let Yuki share the bike for that matter.

spawnofthejudge

2009-06-23, 12:23

"mikuru redirect" ... yeah, that was about as subtle as mud on Haruhi's part :) I'm surprised she let Yuki share the bike for that matter.I don't think she considers Yuki a threat. All of the issues about Haruhi getting jealous have been incidents involving Mikuru. Even when Kyon caught Yuki, it wasn't Haruhi that walked in on him, so she probably doesn't even know about that incident.

relentlessflame

2009-06-23, 14:17

I don't think she considers Yuki a threat. All of the issues about Haruhi getting jealous have been incidents involving Mikuru. Even when Kyon caught Yuki, it wasn't Haruhi that walked in on him, so she probably doesn't even know about that incident.Well, plus, that would make it a little too obvious that she wants Kyon to herself. And she always treats Kyon like a workhorse/slave, so it was logical for him to transport two girls while Koizumi only has to transport one. So all in all, a classic Haruhi move in all respects. :p

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-23, 21:39

Either that or she personally picks them up early... though this has little to do with E8, aside from it being an instance of Kyon being "late" to the events.

Fenrir_valindri

2009-06-23, 23:23

I think they all (knowing how Haruhi is) just show up really early so they don't upset her. Mikuru probably knows from her knowledge of the future to show up early, Koizumi can read Haruhi's mood, and Yuki is Yuki.

Not to mention, for the most part, they are all there to observe/please Haruhi, and not much else. Kyon probably has to get ready like any normal person, while the other 3 are simply waiting for Haruhi to call. :heh: She also probably calls Kyon last. :D

quigonkenny

2009-06-23, 23:25

Even when Kyon's early, he's still late. It's the unrepentant slacker in him. Comes free with the Snarker Deluxe model...

Kid Ying

2009-06-24, 00:09

Once again I was reminded why I love this show. I could go on about all the details I liked in this ep, though I'll save myself the trouble since it was all pretty much covered from the posts I've read.

A small note though, did anyone notice how Haruhi "redirected" Mikuru to Koizumi's bike? I ended up catching this the second time through since the first time I didn't see that Mikuru was already on her way to Kyon's.
Wow, i didn't notice that. Haruhi never fails to amuse me and to kill Kyon's mood.

And i'll go with her reporting Kyon in a later time. What better way to manage him to get to pay for everyone? Even if it's unfair with the guy, since they have Koizumi, who is as rich as possible. Having a guy like him next to you and still having to pay everything for everyone must be hard...

Jze0

2009-06-24, 00:36

Glad the new episodes of Haruhi are still going but damn why did we have to wait that long for the next one? Eh... whatever just glad we have any at all.

Don't want to say much but overall a pretty good episode like the last. A few funny parts here and there, Mikuru being cute and I'm satisfied (oh... forgot to mention Nagato too :D). The new opening looked really nice with some cool comic like panels, I like it alot just like the ending. I plan to add those two songs on my mp3.

yjs

2009-06-24, 07:17

What's up with the crappy art quality in this episode?

Miko Miko

2009-06-24, 07:42

I liked the episode, but it wasn't Haruhi at its best so mehh.. I didn't rate it as high as I could've.

My expectations for this episode were really high!

Solachinx

2009-06-24, 08:12

What's up with the crappy art quality in this episode?

I thought BLR looked worse, but that's just my opinion.

Vexx

2009-06-24, 10:19

Both episodes show some cutbacks in art quality when compared to the broadcast first season. At first I just thought it was because my memory was more freshly imprinted with DVD version, but I still have the first season subs.

I figure we're just seeing the signs of the global recession in Japan.

C.A.

2009-06-24, 11:21

What's up with the crappy art quality in this episode?Please describe what makes you think the art quality is crappy.

Lots of still scenes? I thought though they are still, they are quality pics.

I don't see real problems with this episode, in fact they've even fixed the bad proportions of characters shown in BLR.

thirdlc

2009-06-24, 11:58

I always think that Takahashi Mariko, the animation director of this episode, is the worst animation director in KyoAni. (It's not I'm saying this episode is bad in art quality. Actually, I found she goes well with Haruhi as an anime series.) Especially, she doesn't get along with Kyon.
http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc86/th_00719_9AnimePaper0scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura40_720_4964x6941_212546_122_86lo.j pg (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc86&image=00719_9AnimePaper0scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura40_720_4964x6941_212546_122_86lo.j pg)
It's not so bad as Aratani with yuki, though.
http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc147/th_01039_7AnimePaper1scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura60_711_4964x6949_212551_122_147lo. jpg (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc147&image=01039_7AnimePaper1scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura60_711_4964x6949_212551_122_147lo. jpg)
I have to say it's terrible.:heh:

I thought BLR looked worse, but that's just my opinion.
Nishiya is a slow starter, so I'm pretty sure that his works are getting better soon. Come to think of him, The preview of K-ON ep 13 looked like he took part in it. Hey, Nishiya, what's about Haruhi?! I was under the impression that you had left K-ON since ep 2 for devoting yourself to Haruhi.:mad:

Both episodes show some cutbacks in art quality when compared to the broadcast first season. At first I just thought it was because my memory was more freshly imprinted with DVD version, but I still have the first season subs.

I figure we're just seeing the signs of the global recession in Japan.
I think it's because KyoAni is producing more and more anime than before, so they are taking less time to make each episode than they used to.

Given KyoAni's rotation of animation directors, it's highly likely that the next animation director is Akitake. Have he ever drawn official illustration of Haruhi? I wonder what the next episode will be like.

Roger Rambo

2009-06-24, 14:23

Especially, she doesn't get along with Kyon.
http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc86/th_00719_9AnimePaper0scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura40_720_4964x6941_212546_122_86lo.j pg (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc86&image=00719_9AnimePaper0scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura40_720_4964x6941_212546_122_86lo.j pg)
It's not so bad as Aratani with yuki, though.
http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc147/th_01039_7AnimePaper1scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura60_711_4964x6949_212551_122_147lo. jpg (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc147&image=01039_7AnimePaper1scans_The-Melancholy-Of-Haruhi-Suzumiya_suemura60_711_4964x6949_212551_122_147lo. jpg)
I have to say it's terrible.:heh:
I don't quite get whats wrong with Kyon in that first image. He's supposed to look exasperated. Yuki looks ok as well.

risingstar3110

2009-06-24, 14:56

Watched this EP at last. I knows something big is coming next Ep, but tried my best to restrict myself from the novel, so still not entirely sure what are they..... :D

Can have some guess from random spoiler and random clues but still not so sure...... Happy because i won over my curious past two years, and it gonna pay off... soon

Ep 12 comment: Haruhi rules !!!!

Still considering if i should get a new avatar. Found a potential screen =D

Kaioshin Sama

2009-06-24, 15:13

I knew I'd forgotten to do something as I was catching up on all of my subs last night. Good thing I remembered before work because I was actually getting kind of bored. Also a good thing that while this episode contained the typical summer activities you might find in an Japanese anime and the typical SOS brigade style of interactions as well, somehow them going together made for a pretty fun summer episode. Couldn't really ask for much better timing then this as well. The music continues to be solid and if there was only one thing that bothered me this episode it was Aya Hirano's Yuko Minaguchi light delivery for Haruhi during the first half. So glad they deintensified her during the wind down portion of the summer break because oh my god that was just non stop nasal blabbering, even if it was probably supposed to be deliberate.

Well if anything good came of Haruhi this episode is was the fact that because it was typical summer time activities it actually meant something for this particular anime, that being that Haruhi is slowly starting to normalize in her behaviour a bit, and we even sort of see this over the course of the episode as well since as I mentioned she starts off insufferable and ends up tolerable by the end. Other than that Mikuru and Yuki do their usual things (get scared of everything and be a living statue respectively), Kyon does his Wonder Years bit and Itsuki is a chill dude, but 'twas fun to watch them anyway.

Always wished they could have brought the lil' sis along with this story because it's a missed opportunity for loli fanservice at the pool, but oh well, you can't have it all I suppose. Change is on the horizon regardless, for better and worse.

OceanBlue

2009-06-24, 18:31

I don't quite get whats wrong with Kyon in that first image. He's supposed to look exasperated. Yuki looks ok as well.

I don't see what's wrong with Kyon as well, but Yuki's face is too long and those gold... things in her eyes are too large.

Solachinx

2009-06-24, 19:03

but Yuki's face is too long and those gold... things in her eyes are too large.

Face looks fine to me, and her irises(sp?) look fine as well. The only thing that irks me is the distance between her eyes.

quigonkenny

2009-06-24, 19:46

I don't mind Kyon in the first pic, but Ito-sensei's rendition of him is all over the map in the light novel illustrations, so maybe I'm just more receptive to it. His character design isn't really as distinct as anyone else's anyway, likely intentionally.

That Yuki, however, is bad. This is Haruhi, not Clannad...or Kanon....or Air...

VEE

2009-06-24, 23:35

what's the difference between the original suzumiya haruhi anime and this one because eventually i never watch the old one before

quigonkenny

2009-06-24, 23:44

what's the difference between the original suzumiya haruhi anime and this one because eventually i never watch the old one before
Same characters, different stories. Just like pretty much every other anime sequel not named Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood or Hellsing Ultimate...

Solachinx

2009-06-25, 00:39

Same characters, different stories. Just like pretty much every other anime sequel not named Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood or Hellsing Ultimate...

Technically, those are reboots, but I don't want to get too far off topic.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-25, 00:47

This is technically a reboot as well...

relentlessflame

2009-06-25, 00:54

This is technically a reboot as well...Now you're going to really confuse people... :heh:

VEE: You really need to watch the first season before you can watch this second season. The new episodes take place, in many cases, between existing episodes, so you'd be very confused if you just started now. It's even worse than a traditional sequel in that regard.

Solachinx

2009-06-25, 01:01

This is technically a reboot as well...

Not really, because Ultimate and Brotherhood are different series from the original, but it's still the same plot albeit a tad more true to the manga. Wheras the Haruhi rerun is the same series, only with some new episodes added.

However, it is also a reboot because of "new management" (the director), some new content being added, and because the 2009 run as a whole will be different from the 2006 run as a whole.

So, it can go either way.

Heatth

2009-06-25, 01:11

Actually, you don't need to watch the first season before this one. Maybe is even better if you do not.

The current season, is not a sequel, is a rerun with new episodes. So you can just watch then as they are being realesed. So you should watch some old ones in the chronological order and the new ones.

To help, the episodes before the "episode 1 of Season 2" are originally the 2,3,5,10,13,14,4. Or 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 by the DVD order. Then it comes the "S2 episode 1" (actually episode 8 of the rerun). After that is 7,6,8(broadcast)/9,10,11(DVD). And the come the current one.

So, even though you need watch some old ones (that were also rerealeased this year) you don't need to wach all First Season. You could only wacth then in order.

OkamiNoKaze

2009-06-25, 01:25

It's kind of like the Star wars and the expanded universe in that way, you have the six movies, but each movie has time gaps between them, that all the books, comics and tv shows fill up, to me that's what the first half of the "new" season is like

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-25, 01:42

Now you're going to really confuse people... :heh:

Sorry... I seem to do that a lot...

It's kind of like the Star wars and the expanded universe in that way, you have the six movies, but each movie has time gaps between them, that all the books, comics and tv shows fill up, to me that's what the first half of the "new" season is like

Only, the first half of the "new" season is actually somewhat relevant to the surrounding stories :heh:

bayoab

2009-06-25, 02:35

To help, the episodes before the "episode 1 of Season 2" are originally the 2,3,5,10,13,14,4. Or 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 by the DVD order. Then it comes the "S2 episode 1" (actually episode 8 of the rerun). After that is 7,6,8(broadcast)/9,10,11(DVD). And the come the current one.
Let's make this easier.
1) Buy Haruhi DVDs. Ignore the first episode.
2) Watch through the baseball ep. (Boredom)
3) Watch "Season 2 episode 1" (Bamboo Leaf)
4) Watch through Remote Island Syndrome II.
5) Watch this episode.

And yes, you need those previous episodes for Season 2 to make any sense. You don't need the episodes after Lone Island Syndrome II (yet).

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-25, 03:23

Let's make this easier.
1) Buy Haruhi DVDs. Ignore the first episode.
2) Watch through the baseball ep. (Boredom)
3) Watch "Season 2 episode 1" (Bamboo Leaf)
4) Watch through Remote Island Syndrome II.
5) Watch this episode.

And yes, you need those previous episodes for Season 2 to make any sense. You don't need the episodes after Lone Island Syndrome II.

Why are you excluding The Day of Sagittarius and not Boredom? Boredom serves absolutely no purpose at all in "making sense" of the '09 episodes, or even the '06 ones.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-06-25, 03:26

Why are you excluding The Day of Sagittarius and not Boredom? Boredom serves absolutely no purpose at all in "making sense" of the '09 episodes, or even the '06 ones.

DoS is way after this current arc...

Tokkan

2009-06-25, 03:27

... because the Day of Sagittarius takes place later in the timeline? Like after Live Alive, which is after Sigh, which is after Endless Eight.

Kogetsu Shirogane

2009-06-25, 03:30

Please read the last two sentences of bayoab's post again. He didn't say the current arc, he said Season Two.

Heatth

2009-06-25, 03:41

He probably meant that the episodes after Lone Island are not needed for now. We will have at last one ore month before we get old episodes again.

Tokkan

2009-06-25, 03:52

Please read the last two sentences of bayoab's post again. He didn't say the current arc, he said Season Two.

Does it matter? Besides, he said "you don't need the episodes after Lone Island Syndrome II".

kero

2009-06-25, 13:26

more boring than this episode? is that possible?

I said it in the other thread too but yeah, I'm worried that the next episode will be really boring. This one was fine though.

Jiggy

2009-06-25, 15:06

I can't figure out if this belongs here or in the new episode's thread (or even in some other thread), but while waiting on subs for the new episode I played this one with both a.f.k. and Mazui subs simultaneously out of curiosity for what the differences were.

With episode 3 I know some might not be sure whether to wait for a proven group like a.f.k. or pounce on Mazui if they show up first again, so maybe this will help someone.

Edit: The Mazui subs for episode three are out now. :)

a.f.k. actually subbed the baseball broadcast
"Bon Dance" (a.f.k.) over "O-Bon" (Mazui)
a.f.k. Kyon on Haruhi: "Why does a girl like her have brains? God did a pretty half-[arsed] job of spreading the wealth"
Mazui Kyon: "How is this person's brain so good? The assignment of stat points to people is pretty random"
"One of those rain-warding dolls" (a.f.k.) over "teru teru bozu" (Mazui)
a.f.k. Haruhi calls the guy who got the jobs "my man" and Mazui calls him "Uncle"
a.f.k. Kyon says there'll be mutiny if Haruhi is paid the same as the rest of them, while with Mazui he says there'll be a riot if they have to do it again

Aside from that, there were different sentence structures and general things like that, but I didn't notice them changing anything serious. Sometimes a line was phrased as a sentence in one set of subs and a question in another, but just as often it went vice-versa. (I'm not going through and comparing every single line, just giving my general impression. And I don't have the novel memorized offhand for comparison's sake, either. :P)

Overall I'll stick with a.f.k. in the end, but it's more because I like their font than anything else--and I don't see anything outright wrong with Mazui. (Again, maybe a much more hardcore fan than me would feel differently.)

Archon_Wing

2009-06-25, 16:33

Just watched it, and wow, one of the best of Haruhi really. At first, I was turned off because it looked like some random fanservice episode, but it proved to be fun to watch-- felt pretty fresh. In fact, it seemed more interesting then the last where stuff kinda just happened. The fanservice was also fun because it was not too distracting. Nothing world shattering happened, but it was fun to notice the very subtle change in Haruhi's personality. She seems a little less self-centered, but of course she can't being herself. ;) And she seems to have been channeling Konata with that randomness about eating cicadas.

Yuki buying the mask was a little thing that I like too.

And lol at the 69 shirt. Wtf!!! Will be looking forward to episode 3 and more sarcastic narration.

9/10

Gordy Lechance

2009-06-25, 21:39

Aww Yuki-chan!! Don't hold the gun like that, you'll shoot yourself!! :heh:

phishn37

2009-06-27, 16:45

Just watched it... liked it a lot. I thought they were going to launch into a more serious plot, regarding Haruhi getting bored and those big monsters going around and crushing everything, but they didn't and I was so happy! :)

Umm... Why does Yuki hold that festival game gun backwards? Didn't know what that was about. She was super quiet in this ep, even for her.

And it really bugged me that Haruhi never took off her ribbon in the water. I don't know, that made me just want to reach in and yank it off... it looked so uncomfortable...!