The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 15 Discussion / Poll [2009 added ep. 5] [Archive]

monir

2009-07-09, 03:55

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Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 04:02

I guess all of us here are M-type people. We kept getting trolled and we keep coming back for more. :heh:

Ithekro

2009-07-09, 04:04

Some people have more faith than others I suppose.

ginytah

2009-07-09, 04:10

x_x I can get trolled 10 times and no more

Sho-tan

2009-07-09, 04:11

So this is going to air in like 7 hours?

Kaioshin Sama

2009-07-09, 04:22

Trilliant!

Anyway yeah, long summer..........

topboy

2009-07-09, 04:32

Have faith ,people,have faith.

Myssa Rei

2009-07-09, 04:41

Incidentally, I noticed in my Pixiv account that there's a Tanabata theme going on. Given Tanabata's significance in Haruhi, I'm sure those who overthink much will jump on THAT too.

Jintor

2009-07-09, 05:13

I'm preparing some DESPAIR to share with you all later.

l-l-lain

2009-07-09, 05:41

Actually, you know what's the cleverest thing KyoAni could do at this point? Just proceed into September 1st (Sighs I, or whatever) without immediate proper explanation! Open with Kyon soliloquizing "September the 1st! Whew! So, the technique the four of us hammered out to break Haruhi's loop HAS WORKED! YAY!" - and leave viewers wondering what it was!

Then, only later - either later in that episode, or more daringly, several episodes later - have some excuse to bring up in conversation (e.g. between Kyon and Itsuki during one of their board games) what the technique was.

By this means, KyoAni would have achieved the terrifyingly powerful emotional rollercoaster ride of "no ending, bad ending, bad ending" in the same amount of screentime - 3 episodes, OK plus a tiny bit extra for the soliloquy-and-conversation-as-aftermath - as the "no ending, bad ending, good ending" that so many here say they'd have preferred!

Anyway, we'll find out how KyoAni play it in a few hours, hehehe... :D

Jintor

2009-07-09, 05:47

Gods.

That would be most frightening.

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 06:40

So...the ep hasn't aired yet I take it.

M.Marangio

2009-07-09, 06:50

It airs in four hours and I will miss it because of a birthday party.

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 07:59

It airs in four hours and I will miss it because of a birthday party.

Lol speak for yourself, I have to work today(If weather holds up). Summer is fun and going full time is nice, but dang hours are long. I dont mind, Im making $20/hr doing concrete work so Im happy :).

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 08:13

Dakota

2009-07-09, 08:18

Just arrived at work. Seeing this thread makes me sad. All I have is a pot of coffee and a cup of hope. :<

So, I'll be lurking here.

Jintor

2009-07-09, 08:24

Live update thread? I guess I'll watch more Buffy and then go to sleep. Hopefully when I wake up there'll be subs. Mazui (Maizu?) usually has it subbed by wakeup, or midday in my region.

Frailty

2009-07-09, 08:29

people watching live streams should ready there speech later on and see if it's still like that
people may reveal the answer to this thread if it keeps up getting looped
if it doesn't and KyoAni decided to show the solution , I'm sure there'll be alot of flamings done later on :heh:

Dakota

2009-07-09, 08:39

Live update thread? I guess I'll watch more Buffy and then go to sleep. Hopefully when I wake up there'll be subs. Mazui (Maizu?) usually has it subbed by wakeup, or midday in my region.

The Land Down Under? Crickey.

Also, it's "Mazui." Got it right the first time.

jonli

2009-07-09, 09:00

AND THEN WE GET ANOTHER LOOP :D

UNTIL! SUMMER ENDS! That is the only way to stay true to the series.

Sighs will come when autumn kicks in.
Dissappearance will come when winter comes :D.

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 09:05

I predict that, no matter what happens, someone somewhere is going to rage.

jonli

2009-07-09, 09:08

I predict that, no matter what happens, someone somewhere is going to rage.

That would be me.

Because I read the novels, and there is absolutely no way this justifies 4 episodes. They're not going to satisfy me no matter how well they pull this off. THEY CAN SURPRISE ME if they pull another episode though, but that would just make me bleed red tears.

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 09:16

That would be me.

Because I read the novels, and there is absolutely no way this justifies 4 episodes. They're not going to satisfy me no matter how well they pull this off. THEY CAN SURPRISE ME if they pull another episode though, but that would just make me bleed red tears.

Or, they could make what stops the loops epic a la Light Yagami (Complete with Ominous Latin Chanting)

jonli

2009-07-09, 09:24

Or, they could make what stops the loops epic a la Light Yagami (Complete with Ominous Latin Chanting)

Well I've been known to be proven wrong all the time.

So if they truly do manage to rip a hole in my brain this episode, I might actually cry tears of joy.

Kid Ying

2009-07-09, 09:39

I never read the discussion thread before seeing the actual episode, but i'm going to check close with this one just to see if it's going to be another day of despair or if the sun will finally shine.

But i have faith. 1 is good, 2 is awesome, 3 is too much. Kyoani can't be dense to keep doing it. We already got it the message, now it's time for Kyon to kickin some Haruhi ass and get everything normal again.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 09:39

Well I've been known to be proven wrong all the time.

So if they truly do manage to rip a hole in my brain this episode, I might actually cry tears of joy.

The first season is known to rip holes in brains, and I cried at the end of Melancholy VI. But always have low expectations, and you'll never be disappointed.

Jintor

2009-07-09, 09:55

The first season is known to rip holes in brains, and I cried at the end of Melancholy VI. But always have low expectations, and you'll never be disappointed.

Uh, no. You can easily be disappointed even with low expectations.

Somethings really do suck.

Kid Ying

2009-07-09, 10:00

Uh, no. You can easily be disappointed even with low expectations.

Somethings really do suck.
That's really true. I had no expectations at all with Transformers 2 and i still feel that it wasn't good. Well, since my expectations right now for Haruhi is to see the same episode for the third time, i guess in this case, the actual product can't be worse than my expectations.

LumpOfCole

2009-07-09, 10:16

Ep 2: fun :D
Ep 3: ooo :twitch:
Ep 4: erng :upset:

Now will Ep 5 be OMFG :mad: or WOOGODSFINALLY :cool:

Ascaloth

2009-07-09, 10:16

Whatever happens next, it's gonna be epic. :D

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 10:27

I'm actually scared of this episode. Seriously. :uhoh:

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 10:30

I'll be watching it streamed. My senses are tingling. :)

EDIT: Just realised it's actually starting, but my stream is half an hour later. Feel free to spoil me in this time. :)

LumpOfCole

2009-07-09, 10:34

Guys, GUYS.

Kyon is cheering for the baseball team that is losing.

ALSO SPOILERS

Mikuru finds out she can't transport back into the future

WAIT THERE'S MORE

Yuki buys a mask

Dakota

2009-07-09, 10:37

Guys, GUYS.

Kyon is cheering for the baseball team that is losing.

ALSO SPOILERS

Mikuru finds out she can't transport back into the future

WAIT THERE'S MORE

Yuki buys a mask

Wait, isn't this also the 15,500th time they're looped?

Also, 2chan thread anywhere?

M.Marangio

2009-07-09, 10:42

Here you go: (sorry, 2chan links deleted)

Dr. Casey

2009-07-09, 10:44

So the loop wasn't broken and next episode will be another Endless Eights. That sucks.

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 10:45

stop causing mis-understandings, its on right now!

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 10:47

I bet there's gonna 8 E8s. *waits for Kaisos rant*

SaraFilipa

2009-07-09, 10:49

I was checking the 2ch thread and the art somehow looks a little bit different... More reminiscent of K-On, I guess.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 10:49

We won't know anything until the episode is over.

I'm hungry, I'mma get lunch.

Also: Yukata scene.

Haruhi has her hair up in something that isn't quite a ponytail.... /huh/.

yura`

2009-07-09, 10:55

So how many of you guys here are watching this live at the moment?

I'm almost amazed at myself - I don't think I've ever anticipated an episode so much before, whether or not the loop ends! I didn't really mind the repetitions for the past three episodes, and found it quite a nice 'live' experience as compared to the one-off novel setting, but it'll be nice to see an end to this.

W-General

2009-07-09, 10:56

I am watching this live.

Ready for it?

2009-07-09: Endless Eight
2009-07-16: Endless Eight
2009-07-23: Endless Eight
2009-07-30: Endless Eight
2009-08-06: Endless Eight
.......

THE END

Tempester

2009-07-09, 10:58

So this episode is animated K-On! style. Oh well, at least it looks cute.

SaraFilipa

2009-07-09, 11:00

See what I was saying...? The art's just so K-Onified this time... xD

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2268/1247154913893.jpg
The haaaands...

I actually hope they manage to finish Endless Eight this episode or it'll be way too much. D:

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 11:01

consider our selves lucky, There has now been 15513 loops according to 2chan, we might finally get an end...

CrowKenobi

2009-07-09, 11:02

Well, one loop has been broken... :p

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:05

Whoa...

Haruhi without her yellow hair band looks amazingly cute...

Seems like we'll never ever need a bikini episode again.

Sackett

2009-07-09, 11:06

Lol speak for yourself, I have to work today(If weather holds up). Summer is fun and going full time is nice, but dang hours are long. I dont mind, Im making $20/hr doing concrete work so Im happy :).

Heh.. I figured I'd go to work today, and that way the subs would be already by the time I got home... instead I ended up sick, so now I have to endure the dread and anticipation anyway.

My foolproof plan was foiled

Dr. Casey

2009-07-09, 11:06

I'm almost amazed at myself - I don't think I've ever anticipated an episode so much before, whether or not the loop ends!

Same. I'm really wound up over here. :P Can hardly remember anything fictional that's gotten me as interested as Endless Eights. It's a fun experience, though I'm definitely in the camp that hopes things end with this one.

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:09

It's....it's over?

Dr. Casey

2009-07-09, 11:10

The endless summer has ended?

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:10

It's....it's over?

I followed the 2chan thread. Don't look like it.

SaraFilipa

2009-07-09, 11:12

Definitely... I *think* it's not over yet... D:

CrowKenobi

2009-07-09, 11:12

What's with the emphasis on clouds?

And who cares about Mikuru, Haruhi looks hot in that yukata! :p :love:

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:13

Definitely... I *think* it's not over yet... D:

You're kidding right!?!?!?!

Is this really going to go on until summer ends...?

WHEN DOES SUMMER END!? TELL ME!

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 11:14

sooo 5/8 from what I can see on 2chan threads, this is absolute garbage, over HALF of the new season is being used on a 1 episode content story... This is utter crap, if true(I cant read japanese) this gets a 1/10 and the new season gets a 2.5/10 :).

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:15

You're kidding right!?!?!?!

Is this really going to go on until summer ends...?

WHEN DOES SUMMER END!? TELL ME!

September first.

W-General

2009-07-09, 11:15

Wow Mikuru's hairstyle this week is gorgeous *_*

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:17

God...why...

5 episodes of Endless Eight, that's 100 minute worth of animation. That can basically rival a typical anime movie. If they were pulling a Kara no Kyokai with Haruhi the world would end.

Are they trying to develop Yuki's frustration with these episodes? They're probably trying to make us feel frustrated just like Yuki, and hate Haruhi for it.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:17

I'm not gonna rage until I watch the subs. There's definitely something different they put in this episode.

KyoAni is trying to do something, or tell us something. We have to work together to solve this mystery friends!

Kid Ying

2009-07-09, 11:20

So... Endless eight continues...?

Okay, where is my Black Label, i'll need this to endure this season...

At least there will be something new in this episode... Yuki's mask and... The angles... Awesome.

Dr. Casey

2009-07-09, 11:20

Never fear, jon. Endless Eights will end with this episode.

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 11:20

the episode is over, thread at 2ch : http://dec.2chan.net/24/res/3883910.htm

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:21

... The episode is only about half way through and you're acting like it's already ended and without resolution again.

Edit: 15513?

The episode ended 10 minutes ago.

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:21

... The episode is only about half way through and you're acting like it's already ended and without resolution again.

Sorry I think I got confused.

I can't read Kanji properly, and following hte 2chan thread a lot of them were "WHAT 6 EPISODES?!"

So I thought they failed the loop again. I apologize if the episode is not over, I was clueless.

:( Punish me!

EDIT: Wait so it did end right? RAGE!!!!

@ Dr.Casey: :( but it didnt....

Tokkan

2009-07-09, 11:21

The episode ended 10 minutes ago.

Ah, forgot about Sun-TV. Was watching Teletama.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:25

Nice Airplane.

Seriously though, there better be some new content or another 1 is coming right up.

bayoab

2009-07-09, 11:25

I can't read Kanji properly, and following hte 2chan thread a lot of them were "WHAT 6 EPISODES?!"

I'm translating that post in one of the other threads right now. It's nowhere as simple as that.

baltakatei

2009-07-09, 11:25

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahhahahhhaahaahhzX D

W-General

2009-07-09, 11:26

EPIC RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

READY YOUR PITCH FORKS EVERYONE.

Time to Burn KyoAni and Kadokawa to the ground

&*$(*()4#@%*#(&*$(@$@

Not enough symbols can describe my rage enough now

Archaic

2009-07-09, 11:26

....what the hell?

これは何だよ？信じられんぞ！畜生！

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:26

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahhahahhhaahaahhzX D

You're enjoying this, aren't you? :(

Ascaloth

2009-07-09, 11:26

My head, meet my desk.

*thud*

SealkidHaruhiism

2009-07-09, 11:26

OMFG!!!!!

Endless Eight again!!!!!!!!!

KYON: EPIC FAIL

KYOANI=Troll master!

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 11:26

New episode.

I'm speechless.

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:27

I'm translating that post in one of the other threads right now. It's nowhere as simple as that.

I don't know which post you're talking about because there were dozens of them like that.

6話だと・・・

ありえねええええ

Is the one I read. (Of course all I did was skim through it.)

When I said I can't read kanji properly I meant it as I can't read Japanese Kanji, I can read Chinese Kanji but they have different meanings so I get at least 98% of what they're saying.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:27

Right.

Just as planned.

As least this one felt a bit more fresh than the last one.

EE II >> EE IV >> EE III. EE V? Oh well...whatever.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:27

That's the 15513th time and going.

I actually expected him to fail again lol

Dr. Casey

2009-07-09, 11:28

My head, meet my desk.

*thud*

So you're no longer a fan of the way KyoAni is handling this, Asc?

W-General

2009-07-09, 11:28

2009-07-09: Endless Eight
2009-07-16: Endless Eight
2009-07-23: Endless Eight
2009-07-30: Endless Eight
2009-08-06: Endless Eight
2009-08-13: Endless Eight
2009-08-20: Endless Eight
2009-08-27: Endless Eight

CrowKenobi

2009-07-09, 11:28

:twitch::twitch::twitch::twitch:

seriously, wtf? even I'm starting to join the raging masses... :uhoh:

bayoab

2009-07-09, 11:28

I don't know which post you're talking about because there were dozens of them like that.

6話だと・・・

ありえねええええ

Is the one I read. (Of course all I did was skim through it.)

The massive 2ch rumor post about how Kadokawa ordered 6 eps of E8.

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 11:28

Endless eight confirmed basically for the rest of summer? When this gets dubbed in english, I am NOT buying the DVDs now, this is ridiculous!

Fushichou7

2009-07-09, 11:29

This isn't funny. I'm not watching this anime anymore.

SidVicious

2009-07-09, 11:29

Poor Yuki...

Solais

2009-07-09, 11:30

Huh, Wow. WOW. I mean...

WoW.

I see what they did thar. Just... WoW. I'm lucky I'll be on vacation next week, I won't be disappointed again.

Ascaloth

2009-07-09, 11:30

So you're no longer a fan of the way KyoAni is handling this, Asc?

Why do I feel like a certain someone got you to ask me this? :eyebrow:

Archaic

2009-07-09, 11:30

At this point, I'll be disappointed if they don't go for eight episodes of Endless Eight. They can't not do it after what they've put us through already now.

Stardust Romance

2009-07-09, 11:32

Ha.

I wasn't surprised at all.

Less rage, more laughing.

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 11:33

Hahahahahahaha.

Congratulations to KyoAni/Kadokawa for continuing to prove they are the troll-masters.
I'll be looking forward to subs of this. There was a couple of lines that looked like they might have had something interesting in them that I'll be looking out for.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:33

This could very well become the greatest stunt ever done on TV, they are directly challenging 'jumping the shark'.

I'm very interested in what will happen after all this, amazing stuff.

Anyway, Yuki says this is the 15513th cycle, between this and the previous episode, Kyon failed another 14 times.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:33

Nice plane. :heh:

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:34

The massive 2ch rumor post about how Kadokawa ordered 6 eps of E8.

This?
869 名前：風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で[sage] 投稿日：2009/07/08(水) 22:42:45 ID:0LDR+b5u0
えーっと、もういいかな？

エンドレスエイトは6話構成で製作済み
角川のバックスポンサーが大激怒してプロデューサーの首切りにまで発展するも時既に遅し
製作済みの4・5をすっ飛ばして6話目を今週流すかどうかで大混乱中であります

ちなみに6話構成にしたのは角川の指示
切られたＰは怒れるバックスポンサーの気を鎮めるためのスケープゴート
エンドレスと溜息・みくるの冒険（再編集）で12話稼いでファンを煙に巻くのが角川最大の目的
引っ張りまくった消失ネタは全てネタ
現時点で角川は「まだ」消失をアニメ化する気はない
今回の新構成使い回しシリーズをDVD→BDの連続販売でファンから金を搾り取ってから考える、って感じだった

もうネタと思えなくなってきたぜ

Doesn't that say that they don't have plans to animate Dissappearance? Which is obviously fucking bullshit.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:34

At this point, I'll be disappointed if they don't go for eight episodes of Endless Eight. They can't not do it after what they've put us through already now.

Agreed. If we're already knee-deep in this crap, we might as well call it pudding and be happy with it.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:35

Nice plane. :heh:This may become the latest meme.

Kyoani is starting the meme deliberately.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:35

Well at least we got Spice and Wolf to keep us busy.

Archaic

2009-07-09, 11:35

Endless eight confirmed basically for the rest of summer? When this gets dubbed in english, I am NOT buying the DVDs now, this is ridiculous!

...wait a second. Summer? Endless Summer...oh no...they wouldn't.....they already did a 3 year gap to us, matching up with Kyon travelling 3 years to the past in Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. They're not going to continue this to the 31st of August, when the time loops finally finished, are they?

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:35

Agreed. If we're already knee-deep in this crap, we might as well call it pudding and be happy with it.

Please don't jinx it :upset:

They can do 6 episodes for broadcast, and make another 2 for the DVD.

Sheba

2009-07-09, 11:35

:twitch::twitch::twitch::twitch:

seriously, wtf? even I'm starting to join the raging masses... :uhoh:

Thanksfully my time is loaded with Canaan and Umineko and a HUEG novel + anime backlog + the need to level up my skills in EVE Online so I can fly what I want to; and some dogsitting for a sibling. See you in August or september, Haruhi fans. :D

Ascaloth

2009-07-09, 11:36

On a big-picture level, I'm genuflecting to KyoAni for their sheer balls at extending this whole fracas to 5 episodes.

On a personal level, I'm running short on stamina. Just how many times do I have to copypasta my own article?! :heh:

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:37

I still have Saki + DB Kai. I honestly dun believe Endless Eight can outrun DB Kai. :heh:

That'll be a massive win though if it does. :heh:

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 11:37

Solictum

2009-07-09, 11:37

I find this extremely funny, I'm so happy they are doing this.

:eyespin:

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:39

This may become the latest meme.

Kyoani is starting the meme deliberately.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2502899#post2502899

I claim credit for saying it here first. :p

bayoab

2009-07-09, 11:40

This?

Doesn't that say that they don't have plans to animate Dissappearance? Which is obviously fucking bullshit.

That it does. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2502964#post2502964)

baltakatei

2009-07-09, 11:40

I was holding my breath as Kyon took his sweet time to figure out whether or not he would figure out what to do... ... "wakaranai".... TToTT blah!

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 11:41

I'm not raging for some reason. I raged at episode 3 but not now.

This episode was way better than the last one. If it weren't in such an endless cycle of shit, I could actually appreciate it.

Anyway, I heavily doubt they're gonna end it next episode.
Impressive how a studio can take such good source material and only churn out bullshit.

Edit: If this (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2502964#post2502964) is true, I don't care about this show anymore.

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:41

...wait a second. Summer? Endless Summer...oh no...they wouldn't.....they already did a 3 year gap to us, matching up with Kyon travelling 3 years to the past in Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. They're not going to continue this to the 31st of August, when the time loops finally finished, are they?

Well that's what I originally thought too, but it wouldn't make sense in a business way because that just burns away a lot of money. Kyoto Animation might actually have the balls to do it because whatever they burn away will come back from all the sexy figurines and what not they're going to sell. But I don't think television stations would allow such a waste of broadcasting space. Besides that would literally make the entire season endless eight.

Thanksfully my time is loaded with Canaan and Umineko and a HUEG novel + anime backlog + the need to level up my skills in EVE Online so I can fly what I want to; and some dogsitting for a sibling. See you in August or september, Haruhi fans. :D

You don't understand, nothing can replace Haruhi. Just like how Gundam can't be replaced by Evangelion. Just like what I learned from Honey and Clover, no one can replace another person! NO ANIME CAN BE REPLACD BY ANOTHER!

DO YOU HEAR ME KYOTO ANIMATION!!!! RAGE!!!

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:42

That it does. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2502964#post2502964)

Back sponsor? You meant Kadokawa the sponsor, right? And who was fired? :confused:

Kanon_

2009-07-09, 11:42

At this point, I'll be disappointed if they don't go for eight episodes of Endless Eight. They can't not do it after what they've put us through already now.

Seriously. Now that they've gone this far, they might as well see it through the end.

Anyway, this is simply hilarious. I wonder what Kyoani is really thinking spending all this time and money reanimating the same episode over again. There has to be a limit to trolling, unless they have a lot of money to burn.

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 11:43

Of course, the mere fact that people are still around here to actually rage at the series means that it is still drawing the viewers. This speaks volumes about the effect it's having.

For that, I give this episode a 7/10. This one was better than the last one, for sure.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:44

Please don't jinx it :upset:

They can do 6 episodes for broadcast, and make another 2 for the DVD.

Not jynxing it, just being happy with what KyoAni gives me.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:44

Archaic

2009-07-09, 11:45

But I don't think television stations would allow such a waste of broadcasting space.

It's broadcasting past midnight on every station it's airing on. Remember also that in Japan that things work a little different here, and the networks are paid to air many of these shows, rather than buying the rights to air them. I highly doubt the networks really care.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:46

There are actually a few things left that the anime didn't show us that's in the novel.

I believe that the loops will not end until we see Yuki's weightless effect and Mikuru wearing a goldfish Yutaka.

Anyway this episode has nice hairstyles. Haruhi without hairband is win as well.

I was kinda surprised with that. Haruhi without her headband just isn't Haruhi at all.

And a disheveled Mikuru, and Haruhi below the clouds during Koizimi's speech, and the movie and Nice Plane. :heh:

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:46

If the Endless Eight episodes do take up the planned number of episodes for this season as I suspect, then the only way they can gain my forgiveness is if they straight up animate the next episode with nothing but porn.

Ascaloth

2009-07-09, 11:47

There are actually a few things left that the anime didn't show us that's in the novel.

I believe that the loops will not end until we see Yuki's weightless effect and Mikuru wearing a goldfish Yutaka.

Anyway this episode has nice hairstyles. Haruhi without hairband is win as well.

I don't even know whether this should be considered a spoiler or not. :eyespin:

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:47

It's broadcasting past midnight on every station it's airing on. Remember also that in Japan that things work a little different here, and the networks are paid to air many of these shows, rather than buying the rights to air them. I highly doubt the networks really care.

RAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!

By here do you mean America? Because I'm from Asia.

W-General

2009-07-09, 11:47

I am not sure if I am laughing or raging or crying or whatever now. Make it stop. Please.

I hear that Disappearance is not even gonna get aired until October :twitch:

Ice Block

2009-07-09, 11:48

Enjoying. Every. Second. :D I wonder how the producers are laughing at our anticipation while following the 2chan thread...

Besides, how certain are you guys that this run will only be 28 episodes long? Was there any official (non-leaked) announcement? Do we have an announced or speculated show taking over this timeslot on the 29th week?

New content will be out when it's ready. L2wait. I've waited three years, you've waited the same (or less)... what's another month or so?

Kazane

2009-07-09, 11:48

Another one? Seriously?

Were there any significant differences this time round?

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 11:48

I hear that Disappearance is not even gonna get aired until October :twitch:
If at all. :frustrated:

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 11:49

That it does. (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2502964#post2502964)

If this is true:

1) 6 E8 eps is a fucking idiodic idea. 3 Would have been fine, and I wish they did skip 4 & 5.

2)They didn't mention BLR....

3) So, around 5 episodes for Sigh if the Mikuru ep is 1. That's also idiotic.

4) No Disappearance = Kadokawa witch hunt.

Let the hunt begin!

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:49

I don't even know whether this should be considered a spoiler or not. :eyespin:There is no spoiler, its just one of the quantum differences in the loops.

It may not even appear in the anime at all.

Archaic

2009-07-09, 11:49

By here do you mean America? Because I'm from Asia.

By "here" in that context, I meant with the broadcasting of programs, not referring to a location.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:50

New content will be out when it's ready. L2wait. I've waited three years, you've waited the same (or less)... what's another month or so?

No respect, and a desire to see the property go to a different company.

Sheba

2009-07-09, 11:50

You don't understand, nothing can replace Haruhi. Just like how Gundam can't be replaced by Evangelion. Just like what I learned from Honey and Clover, no one can replace another person! NO ANIME CAN BE REPLACD BY ANOTHER!

DO YOU HEAR ME KYOTO ANIMATION!!!! RAGE!!!

No thanks. I'll just sit back and check other things.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:51

Besides, how certain are you guys that this run will only be 28 episodes long? Was there any official (non-leaked) announcement? Do we have an announced or speculated show taking over this timeslot on the 29th week?

Didn't Newtype mentioned this "rerun" is gonna go for 28? If they're faking that number I don't know what to say.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 11:51

C.A.

2009-07-09, 11:53

Yes, just sit back and enjoy the ride lol

Maybe watching people rage is also part of kyoani's plans for the audience.

Team Rocket Elite

2009-07-09, 11:54

Didn't Newtype mentioned this "rerun" is gonna go for 28? If they're faking that number I don't know what to say.

I'm not sure what Newtype has said, but I thought the 28 episodes thing was a leak from calling TV stations or something like that.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 11:54

Yes, just sit back and enjoy the ride lol

Maybe watching people rage is also part of kyoani's plans for the audience.

And they're wasting good money for it.

They may have been using a lot of still shots but this is really getting absurd. Do they really expect they can get all that money back from raging fanboys? :confused:

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:54

No thanks. I'll just sit back and check other things.

Yeah, at least this anime season has better things to watch, Haruhi now is only good for watching the ensuing train wreck.

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 11:55

At this point, noone can argue KyoAni and Kadokawa are doing this for any other reason besides "get this shit done fast so we can get our money". And lulz.

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 11:56

At this point, noone can argue KyoAni and Kadokawa are doing this for any other reason besides "get this shit done fast so we can get our money". And lulz.

Thing is, it's not really being done 'fast'. Not only is it probably all done already, they're reanimating the entire thing each time.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:56

...Kadokawa are doing this for any other reason besides "get this shit done fast so we can get our money". And lulz.

Wait... isn't Kadokawa raging also? Who were the sponsors?

Midonin

2009-07-09, 11:58

Kadokawa witch hunt.
Aren't witch hunts usually inspired by misinformation or outright lies and often end up hurting innocent people?

Fushichou7

2009-07-09, 11:58

Guys, even if this is on purpose, looking at it as simply a work of "art" or something funny isn't the right way to see it at all. This is either lazy, or a money sink. They know better than to shit out the same thing every week, and they know what they are doing wrong. This is obviously because something ridiculous happened. Who at KyoAni seriously thinks that hardly anyone is going to buy the DVDs? This isn't a troll at all, this is behind-the-scenes incompetence at work. People are being way too optimistic about this, and I would say that we just ditch the season before saying anything else about it. Seriously, an earlier post stated that some of you guys would defend this anime if they showed a still shot of a jar of mayonnaise for 30 minutes; I don't find that hard to believe.

Even sub groups are starting to drop SHnY. Mazui is doing Spice instead now, which after one episode is already proving to be more interesting than this sack of BS.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 11:58

Thing is, it's not really being done 'fast'. Not only is it probably all done already, they're reanimating the entire thing each time.

Fast as in they don't need to think, and bother spending time on scripts, VA, etc...

Oh animating an episode every week is expected, that ought to be the bare minimum of any animation company, it's even easier when the episode has so maaaaaaaany stills in it to pad out their time.

Ice Block

2009-07-09, 11:58

At this point, noone can argue KyoAni and Kadokawa are doing this for any other reason besides "get this shit done fast so we can get our money". And lulz.
The way I see it, they don't care about money at all. It's all about the LULZ.

jonli

2009-07-09, 11:59

If this is true:

1) 6 E8 eps is a fucking idiodic idea. 3 Would have been fine, and I wish they did skip 4 & 5.

2)They didn't mention BLR....

3) So, around 5 episodes for Sigh if the Mikuru ep is 1. That's also idiotic.

4) No Disappearance = Kadokawa witch hunt.

Let the hunt begin!

I really doubt the accuracy of that post.
I mean after all this mother fucking trolling to the nth degree from trolls on planet tollton, it is without a doubt that Kyoto Animation are great at story-telling (especially adapting novels and translating them on the screen.)

When I mean by translating on the screen, this includes art direction, voice acting, animation and most of all pacing and build up.

As we can see from Season 1 of Haruhi, the way they organized the episodes wasn't only because they wanted to troll, it also helped develop the characters and save the climax for the last episode. To give us a big pow to the face.

Although I'm raging really hard right now, I can actually see that E8 can serve as an extreme build up to Disappearance. If it actually is so, it is actually doing really well in that context.

If what I predicted is truly the over-arching plan of Season 2, then E8 is only a tiny portion of that plan, and so far it's keiikaku dori.

Toonleap

2009-07-09, 11:59

Screenshots and yes, it continues...DUH!

http://www.cartoonleap.com/2009/07/09/haruhi-second-season-ep-15-endless-eight-wtf/

No, seriously...this is just too far!

sirn

2009-07-09, 12:00

Wait... isn't Kadokawa raging also? Who were the sponsors?

Kadokawa is both sponsor and producer (the 製作 credit, not to be confused with 制作 which usually refers to animation production.) This is probably the first time I've seen production suicide for absolutely no reason. Great job, Kadokawa.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 12:00

The way I see it, they don't care about money at all. It's all about the LULZ.

Heh, unfortunately their sponsors and fans do.

baltakatei

2009-07-09, 12:05

Well, when these episodes do make it to DVD, first-time viewers are going to say experience serious deja vu and say something like this:
A: Whoa, Deja vu. Didn't we see this episode?
B: Yes, you did.
A: Oh, my bad, I must've hit the 'back' button. There. 'Next'!
*phone rings*
A: Hey, B, Go ahead and watch the opening, let me get this call...
B: ^__^
*A returns, plops back down onto couch*
A: ...
A: ... Hey, haven't we-
B: Yes.
A: ...
A: Seriously?
B: Seriously.
A: Is this ep the exact same stuff? Scene-for-scene?
B: Scene-for-scene.
A: We're skipping this episode then. NEXT!
B: ^__^
*A fast-forwards*
A: Swimsuits... again. AGAIN?
B: To get to the new stuff, skip ahead 3 more episodes.
A: Bah, who cares about this. Let me try one of my DVDs now.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 12:07

Shii

2009-07-09, 12:08

This is the greatest event in the history of anime.

Ice Block

2009-07-09, 12:09

Heh, unfortunately their sponsors and fans do.
Their sponsors may actually be in cahoots with them. Impatient fans (specially novel readers who think they know exactly how this run's gonna pan out). :heh:

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 12:10

This is the greatest event in the history of anime.

And I am proud to be part of this historic moment in internet anime history!

Yeah right... :eyespin:

baltakatei

2009-07-09, 12:11

And they're wasting good money for it.

They may have been using a lot of still shots but this is really getting absurd. Do they really expect they can get all that money back from raging fanboys? :confused:

Yes. Yes, they do.

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 12:11

This is the greatest event in the history of anime.
Maybe not the greatest event, but definitely up there among the ballsiest. :)

C.A.

2009-07-09, 12:11

Fushichou7

2009-07-09, 12:11

Their sponsors may actually be in cahoots with them. Impatient fans (specially novel readers who think they know exactly how this run's gonna pan out). :heh:

Too optimistic. Too unrealistic.

quigonkenny

2009-07-09, 12:11

Yes. Yes, they do.
And history has shown that they are probably right.

typhonsentra

2009-07-09, 12:12

Glad I didn't even bother this time. Just skimmed through the 2ch pictures, fucking pathetic.

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 12:14

jonli

2009-07-09, 12:15

Its weird seeing people raging saying that they're not going to buy DVDs, yet people say kyoani is doing this for money?

Until the DVD sales results are out, I'm quite certain this will not be selling well or anywhere as good as the 1st season.

I'm very sure they, or maybe the director is doing this for effect and not for money. The money will only come if they pull of this effect well at the end somehow. I'm not sure how they will convince people to buy more DVDs with this.

What I don't understand is that they've been trying this "experimental advertising" and "presentation" for the series since season 1.

They've already trolled enough with "cancellation of season 2" in order to correspond with "Disappearance". That was already 3 years worth of trolling, they really don't need to pull this E8 crap out, especially when E8 wans't event that satisfying of a story in the first place.

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 12:18

Its weird seeing people raging saying that they're not going to buy DVDs, yet people say kyoani is doing this for money?

Until the DVD sales results are out, I'm quite certain this will not be selling well or anywhere as good as the 1st season.

I'm very sure they, or maybe the director is doing this for effect and not for money. The money will only come if they pull of this effect well at the end somehow. I'm not sure how they will convince people to buy more DVDs with this.

In order to make this work in the end,

there would have to be ominous latin chanting in the background while Kyon is doing his homework, complete with a chorus swell everytime Kyon makes a stroke of the pen, epic potato chip eating, and the FF fanfare when Kyon finnishes :D

topboy

2009-07-09, 12:19

My comment for this episode is no comment.
Still not vote rating for epi 3,4,5 cause It can't vote for negative score (just joke)

Fushichou7

2009-07-09, 12:19

Voitan

2009-07-09, 12:20

The way I see it, we're still in the 'ok, what the hell is going on' stage of this effect.
It's pointless to judge the effect until it's finished up.
So, we'll see what people are saying about Endless Eight in a few more weeks, shall we?

According to the voting from the previous episode, and looks like this one, we're in the "FUCK YOU KADOKAWA/KYOANI!" stage.

jonli

2009-07-09, 12:20

Incredible.

Almost 5 years I've been lurking around in this forum, and this is the first time I've been rapid-posting every minute about an Anime.

Peanutbutter003

2009-07-09, 12:21

I think it's times like this that I'm starting to appreciate animes that go strictly accordingly to their source, without coming out with their own ideas to be "unconventional" and disrupting the viewing pleasure.

Or maybe it's because I've already seen the source (i.e. light novels) that I'm really feeling jaded. Maybe if I didn't read that (and put it into pdf and reread it again and again), I'll be more happy with what they are doing right now and praising Kyoani/Kadokawa to the sky.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 12:22

Incredible.

Almost 5 years I've been lurking around in this forum, and this is the first time I've been rapid-posting every minute about an Anime.

Same, waiting for the raw to get out so I can actually rate the episode.

Doesn't look too good unfortunately.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 12:23

In order to make this work in the end,

there would have to be ominous latin chanting in the background while Kyon is doing his homework, complete with a chorus swell everytime Kyon makes a stroke of the pen, epic potato chip eating, and the FF fanfare when Kyon finnishes :D In other words, the end must be so godly epic, that people would forgive them.

Or maybe in the end someone will overlay all the Endless Eight Episodes into one video, play it backwards and find out that the images will merge and form a secret episode that actually shows the solution to the endless cycle.

jonli

2009-07-09, 12:25

Same, waiting for the raw to get out so I can actually rate the episode.

Doesn't look too good unfortunately.

Man yo, your join date is november 2008, I'm april 2004. I'm ancient by your standards! I've been here since the Gundam Seed days, and I've stayed as a lurking shadow....UNTIL NOW! UNTIL HARUHI FORCED ME TO RAGE!

Arrnea

2009-07-09, 12:25

According to the voting from the previous episode, and looks like this one, we're in the "FUCK YOU KADOKAWA/KYOANI!" stage.
Ah, but the "FUCK YOU KADOKAWA/KYOANI" response is a reaction to the 'ok, what the hell is going on' stage. So really, it's the same thing. Cursing the origin of the material (in this case KyoAni/Kadokawa, since we're talking about the anime, and not the light novels) is a common human reaction to the lack of understanding for what is intended here.

Voitan

2009-07-09, 12:28

Man yo, your join date is november 2008, I'm april 2004. I'm ancient by your standards! I've been here since the Gundam Seed days, and I've stayed as a lurking shadow....UNTIL NOW! UNTIL HARUHI FORCED ME TO RAGE!

E-peen size what?

:rolleyes:

LumpOfCole

2009-07-09, 12:28

The rage is because we do understand.

jonli

2009-07-09, 12:28

Ah, but the "FUCK YOU KADOKAWA/KYOANI" response is a reaction to the 'ok, what the hell is going on' stage. So really, it's the same thing. Cursing the origin of the material (in this case KyoAni/Kadokawa, since we're talking about the anime, and not the light novels) is a common human reaction to the lack of understanding for what is intended here.

Agreed, which is why I said earlier that this might all be a build up to Disappearance, and it is doing its job.

That is IF IT IS. If it is I can see how Season 2 would be an extreme emotional roller coaster of love and hate and end with love.

I'm raging because I can't help it. I can see that in the near future I'm going to have a tough time convincing my friends to give Haruhi 2 a try just like how I had trouble convincing people to watch past Asashina Mikuru episode 00 of season 1.

Ice Block

2009-07-09, 12:29

Too optimistic. Too unrealistic.
Considering the current situation? Not unrealistic at all. I'm too optimistic, yes, but I don't have any expectations at all. I humbly take what gets thrown at me.

After all, I was once among the novel readers who would smirk at non-novel-based predictions and speculations while lurking though the interwebs, and I was humbled by this experiment. KyoAni/Kadokawa's telling us that Haruhi's the god here, and us fans, however knowledgeable and powerful we may become, will never be able to play on her field. :D

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 12:30

I love how in only a couple seasons KyoAni can go from the "do no wrong" studio to being utterly hated.

And actually, I'm not even pissed at this point, as I've pretty much given up on the anime... all I really want is a new light novel, but chances are we won't be seeing that anytime soon either.

Yaaaay Kadokawa.

After all, I was once among the novel readers who would smirk at non-novel-based predictions and speculations while lurking though the interwebs, and I was humbled by this experiment. KyoAni/Kadokawa's telling us that Haruhi's the god here, and us fans, however knowledgeable and powerful we may become, will never be able to play on her field. :D

Jar of mayonnaise, like someone else here already said. Jar of mayonnaise.

SSJiffy

2009-07-09, 12:38

Friends don't let friends watch Haruhi 2009.
Another 1 to what's become a travesty.

baltakatei

2009-07-09, 12:38

In other words, the end must be so godly epic, that people would forgive them.

When the crew was catching cicadas, I wanted some kind of godly ending to occur, like you were saying. So immediately, I imagined Nagato losing it: "aaaaaaaaaaaa!!" *view of treetops and hills with birds suddenly taking flight*

Haruhi: What was that? Did you hear someone scream?

Of course, that kind of epic event would be totally out of canon, but hey, KyoAni has made things so tense that any dramatic change to canon of any sort could easily reach epic status.

Conan-san

2009-07-09, 12:48

Nope, I'm done here.

Not wasting my time with this shit.

Sute443

2009-07-09, 12:48

At first I was upset with myself when I realized I'd forgotten to watch the stream of this episode. After finding out that the loop still hadn't ended, I felt better. Because I realized that I hadn't missed out on anything. And I wouldn't have missed out on anything if I'd missed last week's episode, either.

Somebody call me when they start Disappearance (or maybe Sighs' best scene, if it looks like they won't get to the former). I won't be watching any Haruhi until then.

I love how in only a couple seasons KyoAni can go from the "do no wrong" studio to being utterly hated.

And actually, I'm not even pissed at this point, as I've pretty much given up on the anime... all I really want is a new light novel, but chances are we won't be seeing that anytime soon either.

Yaaaay Kadokawa.

Yep, the novels are the way to go. Maybe if more people had joined me on Tanabata in wishing for Volume 10 to come out instead of wasting their wishes we'd have had an announcement by now.

relentlessflame

2009-07-09, 12:51

Until the DVD sales results are out, I'm quite certain this will not be selling well or anywhere as good as the 1st season.Well, the other thing we don't know is how the episode will be sold. For example, what if they sold all x Endless Eight episodes in a single set for the price you would normally pay for 2 episodes, in which case you could see all the middle loops almost like bonus features? Or what if they sell the discs at the price for one episode even if it contains two-episodes worth of content? I mean, sure, if they sell the episodes in the way they sell other episodes, then I agree that the sales will probably suffer. That being said, there are probably ways they could do it that wouldn't seen very offensive to purchasers. We'll see what they do.

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 12:57

Yep, the novels are the way to go. Maybe if more people had joined me on Tanabata in wishing for Volume 10 to come out instead of wasting their wishes we'd have had an announcement by now.

But that would mean that Novel 10 would come out in 16 years at the earliest ºAº

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 12:59

But that would mean that Novel 10 would come out in 16 years at the earliest ºAº

That would still be faster than waiting for it, if you catch my drift.

W-General

2009-07-09, 13:01

Another big-fat 1 from me. Let's make this the episode with the most 1's in the history of AnimeSuki.

That is, until next week when they announce Endless Eight part 6. Then we make that the worst-rated episode.

Sute443

2009-07-09, 13:03

But that would mean that Novel 10 would come out in 16 years at the earliest ºAº

Unless you were to specify a time-frame for it to be released in. What, you think Orihime and Hikiboshi are so weak that they can't send the granting of wishes back in time? They just usually don't do so because most people don't ask them to.

C.A.

2009-07-09, 13:04

Well, the other thing we don't know is how the episode will be sold. For example, what if they sold all x Endless Eight episodes in a single set for the price you would normally pay for 2 episodes, in which case you could see all the middle loops almost like bonus features? Or what if they sell the discs at the price for one episode even if it contains two-episodes worth of content? I mean, sure, if they sell the episodes in the way they sell other episodes, then I agree that the sales will probably suffer. That being said, there are probably ways they could do it that wouldn't seen very offensive to purchasers. We'll see what they do.Yea, actually I really do think that they should compile the entire Endless Eight into 1 set. Or count Endless Eight as 1 single episode if that's even possible, not sure how many episode slots they really have now.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 13:05

But that would mean that Novel 10 would come out in 16 years at the earliest ºAº

Tanabata does not work that way.

Solachinx

2009-07-09, 13:08

Tanabata does not work that way.

I know. *filler*

W-General

2009-07-09, 13:08

Well, the other thing we don't know is how the episode will be sold. For example, what if they sold all x Endless Eight episodes in a single set for the price you would normally pay for 2 episodes, in which case you could see all the middle loops almost like bonus features? Or what if they sell the discs at the price for one episode even if it contains two-episodes worth of content? I mean, sure, if they sell the episodes in the way they sell other episodes, then I agree that the sales will probably suffer. That being said, there are probably ways they could do it that wouldn't seen very offensive to purchasers. We'll see what they do.

2ch had a pretty good ascii art about this:

　　　　　　＿＿＿_ 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
　　　／:::::─三三─＼　　　　　　　　　　 DVD「Endless Eight1～3」　8000 yen
　　／::::::: （ ○）三（○）＼　　　　　　　　　DVD「Endless Eight4～6」　8000 yen
　　|::::::::::（__人__）:|　＿＿＿＿＿DVD「Endless Eight7～9」　8000 yen
　　＼::::::　　|r┬-| ,／　 | |　　　　　　DVD「Endless Eight10～12」　8000　yen
　　　ノ:::::　　　`ー'´　＼　 |

ReneeBurossamu

2009-07-09, 13:18

Awesome Kadokawa.
And to think I kinda-sorta didn't expect this. I officially give up on Endless eight.
1/10.

relentlessflame

2009-07-09, 13:19

2ch had a pretty good ascii art about this:

　　　　　　＿＿＿_ 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
　　　／:::::─三三─＼　　　　　　　　　　 DVD「Endless Eight1～3」　8000 yen
　　／::::::: （ ○）三（○）＼　　　　　　　　　DVD「Endless Eight4～6」　8000 yen
　　|::::::::::（__人__）:|　＿＿＿＿＿DVD「Endless Eight7～9」　8000 yen
　　＼::::::　　|r┬-| ,／　 | |　　　　　　DVD「Endless Eight10～12」　8000　yen
　　　ノ:::::　　　`ー'´　＼　 |
Actually, joking aside, if they actually released them at 3 episodes/disc, and assuming there are 6 episodes in total not 12 (so only 2 discs), that'd be cheaper than the way they usually release Haruhi episodes (which would be nearly that price for 2 episodes). I would think they'll do better than that, but it's not outside the realm of possibilities.

Archon_Wing

2009-07-09, 13:21

L....O......L

I'll admit it, I stared at the poll first before the episode, and realized the truth. :heh: And my stupid theory about them trying to send a message that they don't want to do Haruhi anymore suddenly makes more sense. It makes them money but they feel enslaved to it!! So they are just trying to show how Haruhi is a great way of printing money but also draining on the soul. Since the episode contains nothing, I feel compelled to make up crap in its place, as humans always try to make sense of things. Ehh... ok it's not working.

I will go by my post in the previous thread and hang around for one more episode. It's still not enough to make me quit ^^, but it definitely has done some damage here to what I view of Haruhi; not that it really matters of course, but I'm not surprised if there was a fan in Japan who didn't want 4 episodes of the same thing.

i/10, it's just too incomprehensible to rate, but since that option doesn't exist, 1 will have to do.
edit:here's to eight episodes of Endless Eight!

musume_no_hoshi

2009-07-09, 13:28

I downloaded a horrible raw version, watched it without reading the thread whether it's another loop. When it got to 3/4 of the way, and they were still at the park explaining the loop...

I don't know how pissed are the fanboys on 2chan, weirdly, I'm not so pissed. I only read the volume 1,3 and 4. Lets just wait till the DVD sales come out.

Sheba

2009-07-09, 13:29

The way I see it, we're still in the 'ok, what the hell is going on' stage of this effect.
It's pointless to judge the effect until it's finished up.
So, we'll see what people are saying about Endless Eight in a few more weeks, shall we?

13 or 15 years ago, I thought that nothing would top Eva's "Doodles on the screen with Shinji's voice" or "Stillshot of one minute while Beethoven play" in term of WHAT. Now I am here. Of course, now I am older; so I am not as gullible as I used to be. Thus, rewatching the mentioned scenes now leaves like ".....". And I could say the same about Endless Eight right now. It may have worked on me if I was still enthusiastic and easy to impress cinematographic-wise as I was at age 13-15. But not here. I just humbly take as it comes. What I enjoy is seeing predictions thrown out of the window.

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 13:32

LOL the poll is really speaking for itself this time around...

Kirarakim

2009-07-09, 13:33

Now this is what I call good trolling :heh:

I am more amused than annoyed at this point (although I am sure I won't be giving the episode itself good marks).

So any guesses on how long Endless Eight will actually last?

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 13:35

13 or 15 years ago, I thought that nothing would top Eva's "Doodles on the screen with Shinji's voice" or "Stillshot of one minute while Beethoven play" in term of WHAT. Now I am here. Of course, now I am older; so I am not as gullible as I used to be. Thus, rewatching the mentioned scenes now leaves like ".....". And I could say the same about Endless Eight right now. It may have worked on me if I was still enthusiastic and easy to impress cinematographic-wise as I was at age 13-15. But not here. I just humbly take as it comes. What I enjoy is seeing predictions thrown out of the window.

That sort of thing WORKED with Eva, though...

And here, if they abused imagery like that with the flashing text and doodles I'd praise them, because it would be mindfuck and interesting. But just animating episodes over and over is just... bah.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 13:35

Archon_Wing

2009-07-09, 13:37

I dare them to make the entire season Endless Eight... and end with a cliffhanger.

touge-n00b

2009-07-09, 13:39

HAHAHA, I dont think I've ever seen an animesuki poll like that!

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 13:40

HAHAHA, I dont think I've ever seen an animesuki poll like that!

Actually, yeah.

Has there ever been a poll this low?

Rice_slayer

2009-07-09, 13:43

I dont think so Kaisos, Lasts week was bad enough, I think this week will destroy last weeks episode. I expect next weeks to be ever worse too lol.

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 13:48

touge-n00b

2009-07-09, 13:49

I dont think so Kaisos, Lasts week was bad enough, I think this week will destroy last weeks episode. I expect next weeks to be ever worse too lol.

I think, if it doesn't end, next weeks poll will have like 5 participants. The rest of us will have given up...

littlegal100

2009-07-09, 13:50

I don't now whether I should laugh my ass off or punch my laptop screen in rage. This has to be the biggest trolling I’ve ever witnessed a studio pull off in my time of watching anime!

I’m not even going to bother wasting my time watching this (like the previous episode) again in fact I’m pretty much dropping Haruhi until Endless eight actually ends for good.

God knows how Yuki stayed sane going trough this 15000 times in a row.

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 13:50

Maybe some things were simply not meant to be. Like Disappearance.

I can hardly imagine another studio just picking up on the show (if that is even possible), so I'm just gonna give up on Season 2.

Would have been great.

aulzon

2009-07-09, 13:50

If they are going to do this they should do it for the whole summer. No point in halfassing a meme, GO ALL THE WAY. I can't wait to see this episode animated again and again and again and again and again and again and again. It will only end until no one watches this show.

jonli

2009-07-09, 13:51

this is basically an attempt by kyoani to silence all the fans who kept bitching about wanting more haruhi for 3 years while they wanted to make other shows instead
"you want it so much, fine, how do you like THIS"

Then they are really going out of their way to do it man.

First they have an extreme viral marketing scheme for the past 2 years. Then they have Haruhi-Chan with all the hints for season2, especially the ending dance song.

Then they have to spend the money to animate every episode of endless eight and bamboo leaf rhapsody.

If they're realling doing this to punch us in the face then they're basically stabbing themselves in the face, financially.

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 13:54

Then they are really going out of their way to do it man.

First they have an extreme viral marketing scheme for the past 2 years. Then they have Haruhi-Chan with all the hints for season2, especially the ending dance song.

Then they have to spend the money to animate every episode of endless eight and bamboo leaf rhapsody.

If they're realling doing this to punch us in the face then they're basically stabbing themselves in the face, financially.

dont forget how they started to broadcast this season IN FUCKING SECRET
i dont think i ever saw a product being treated like this
not simply going WITHOUT advertising it, but actually HIDING IT WITHIN THE FRAME OF A RE-RUN

touge-n00b

2009-07-09, 13:56

I wonder how much more KyoAni/Kadokawa can pull off before otakus start to go crazy in Japan and start rioting their offices or something.

jonli

2009-07-09, 13:59

dont forget how they started to broadcast this season IN FUCKING SECRET
i dont think i ever saw a product being treated like this
not simply going WITHOUT advertising it, but actually HIDING IT WITHIN THE FRAME OF A RE-RUN

I know right?

I never really agree with the saying that a there is nothing between a genius and a madman.

Kyoto Animation is seriously giving me a whole new understanding to that now. They truly are crazy or really fucking great.

aulzon

2009-07-09, 14:01

Kyoto Animation is seriously giving me a whole new understanding to that now. They truly are crazy or really fucking great.

They would be the latter if they did this for another 20 episodes.

If they just quit now they lose their chance at creating a cultural phenomenon that will be stuck to the pages of epic trolling forever.

Sure it must suck for Haruhi fans (a giant middlefinger) but think about the epicness of 20 episodes of endless eight!

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 14:02

which ever one they are
right now

i'm a sad panda :upset:

jonli

2009-07-09, 14:04

They would be the latter if they did this for another 20 episodes.

If they just quit now they lose their chance at creating a cultural phenomenon that will be stuck to the pages of epic trolling forever.

Sure it must suck for Haruhi fan's (a giant middlefinger) but think about the epicness of 20 episodes of endless eight!

They're never make it through that.

20 episodes is even longer than season 1. That's not trolling anymore.

That's something else entirely.

It'll be a Legend.

Archon_Wing

2009-07-09, 14:08

It would suck so badly that it goes around the other side and becomes awesome. But beware, most just get stuck on the suck side.

Academus

2009-07-09, 14:12

I, for one, would love to see this continues till the end of the real world's August.

That will be epic.

Ithekro

2009-07-09, 14:16

They don't have enough slots left to pull off 20 episodes of Endless Eight (not with a 28 episode block and four original episodes left to show for their "re-run").

However they have managed to do something interesting. They've managed to become the most talked about show/studio again.

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 14:17

what are kyoani thinking ?

is this an attempt to make every single fan who bitched about lucky star or K-on pay ?

is this about taking all those who said they'd rather see kyoani animate more haruhi then watch clannad and giving them the middle finger ?

is there a bet going with the people at kodokawa ?
did someone challange the people at kyoani "i bet you cant possibly make people hate haruhi" and kyoani is trying to prove them wrong ?

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 14:19

However they have managed to do something interesting. They've managed to become the most talked about show/studio again.

"No such thing as bad publicity" is a fallacy.

They've managed to make themselves HATED. Not that hard of an accomplishment, really.

Fushichou7

2009-07-09, 14:22

Starlight

2009-07-09, 14:22

You kidding me, this episode was another Endless Eight?

Pfft that can gtfo.

Can't wait to see DVD sales on this shit.

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 14:23

W-General

2009-07-09, 14:24

The Disappearance of the Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi

You see what I did there.

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 14:26

Malkuth

2009-07-09, 14:33

Now I wonder where are those 38 posters that gave episode 4 a perfect score?

So 5+ episodes of a boring short story (which is a personal opinion), probably no Disappearance and Haruhi character designs progressively mutate into the 4-panel crap that the studio produces lately. KyoAni obviously targets only extreme fandom, since however bad their shows are they will still buy the DVDs anyway. It's a piety really, I had a very good opinion of the studio a couple of years ago, but with Key-obsession and 4-panel moe-blobs it degraded gradually and the final straw is this abomination, after all *bleep* that Kadokawa put us through.

This season has a lot of excellent shows and none should waste anymore time with this sad story.

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 14:36

here added is the wikipedia ep summery of the last 4 eps

{{Japanese episode list
|EpisodeNumber=12
|RomajiTitle=Endoresu Eito
|KanjiTitle=エンドレスエイト
|EnglishTitle=Endless Eight
|OriginalAirDate=June 19, 2009
|ShortSummary= After the busy island adventure with the SOS Brigade and a family trip to visit relatives in the countryside, Kyon is just settling in to relax for the final two weeks of [[summer vacation]]. Unfortunately for him, Haruhi wants to get everything she can out of the precious time remaining, in the company of the SOS Brigade. As such, the group is taken on a whirlwind tour of summer activities, from [[swimming pool]]s to [[Bon festival|summer festivals]], part-time jobs, and [[Insect collecting|bug hunting]]. Finally, Haruhi has made it through her entire list, and the last day of August arrives. Though Kyon tries to make up for lost time by doing his neglected summer homework, he eventually gives in to distraction, going to bed just before midnight.
|LineColor=CCF
}}
{{Japanese episode list
|EpisodeNumber=13
|RomajiTitle=Endoresu Eito
|KanjiTitle=エンドレスエイト
|EnglishTitle=Endless Eight
|OriginalAirDate=June 26, 2009
|ShortSummary= Like the previous episode, Kyon's easy going summer vacation is interrupted as the group is taken on a whirlwind tour of summer activities, from [[swimming pool]]s to [[Bon festival|summer festivals]], part-time jobs, and [[stargazing]]. However, Kyon is wracked by a constant sense of [[déjà vu]]. Koizumi is likewise troubled, while Nagato seems even more detached than usual. They finally work out the truth: Haruhi has put the last two weeks of August into an infinite loop because she refuses to let summer end. They find out that the loop has repeated 15498 times. However, none of them can devise anything to stop the cycle from repeating. On the second-to-last day of summer, Kyon calls out after Haruhi in a last-ditch attempt to stop her from leaving unsatisfied, but fails to think of anything he can do, and she leaves. As the last day of vacation arrives, Kyon, resigned to the loop repeating itself, goes to bed without finishing his summer homework.
|LineColor=CCF
}}
{{Japanese episode list
|EpisodeNumber=14
|RomajiTitle=Endoresu Eito
|KanjiTitle=エンドレスエイト
|EnglishTitle=Endless Eight
|OriginalAirDate=July 3, 2009
|ShortSummary= Like the previous episode, Kyon's easy going summer vacation is interrupted as the group is taken on a whirlwind tour of summer activities, from swimming pools to summer festivals, part-time jobs, and stargazing. However, Kyon is wracked by a constant sense of déjà vu. Koizumi is likewise troubled, while Nagato seems even more detached than usual. They finally work out the truth: Haruhi has put the last two weeks of August into an infinite loop because she refuses to let summer end. They find out that the loop has repeated 15499 times. However, none of them can devise anything to stop the cycle from repeating. On the second-to-last day of summer, Kyon calls out after Haruhi in a last-ditch attempt to stop her from leaving unsatisfied, but fails to think of anything he can do, and she leaves. As the last day of vacation arrives, Kyon, resigned to the loop repeating itself, goes to bed without finishing his summer homework.
|LineColor=CCF
}}
{{Japanese episode list
|EpisodeNumber=15
|RomajiTitle=Endoresu Eito
|KanjiTitle=エンドレスエイト
|EnglishTitle=Endless Eight
|OriginalAirDate=July 10, 2009
|ShortSummary= Like the previous episode, Kyon's easy going summer vacation is interrupted as the group is taken on a whirlwind tour of summer activities, from swimming pools to summer festivals, part-time jobs, and stargazing. However, Kyon is wracked by a constant sense of déjà vu. Koizumi is likewise troubled, while Nagato seems even more detached than usual. They finally work out the truth: Haruhi has put the last two weeks of August into an infinite loop because she refuses to let summer end. They find out that the loop has repeated 15513 times. However, none of them can devise anything to stop the cycle from repeating. On the second-to-last day of summer, Kyon calls out after Haruhi in a last-ditch attempt to stop her from leaving unsatisfied, but fails to think of anything he can do, and she leaves. As the last day of vacation arrives, Kyon, resigned to the loop repeating itself, goes to bed without finishing his summer homework.
|LineColor=CCF
}}
|}

look at the last two eps
exactly the same
pretty much word for word :heh:

how sad is that

relentlessflame

2009-07-09, 14:36

jonli

2009-07-09, 14:37

The annoying part is that this season could have been really good, but it's not. It's just a bunch of bullshit. And I don't expect any less than someone replying to this saying something completely inane in KyoAni's defense like "it's artistic," or "they're trying to make us understand how Yuki feels!" My ass.

Agree totally.

But like I've said countless of times in several different threads, is that the way they are doing this they might actually pull it off with a big bang.

The reason is because all the new episodes so far serve as the building blocks required for Disappearance. The way they're pissing us all of would ultimately make Disappearance a much more emotional wild ride, which I hope would enhance the experience.

Assuming of course my prediction is correct. Maybe they really are going to just E8 it out and bankrupt and no more haruhi.

They've made Haruhi into an immersive interactive experience, which on some level is a break through. We'll probably see more studios do things like this now.

EDIT: Oops I totally missed the other part of your post...
Well I guess my point still stands, that you have to admit what they're doing now is a breakthrough. It's bringing things in a new direction taht they've never been before. Whether or not that's a bad thing for the franchise or the industry as a whole is remain to be seen. However what they're doing is creating a lot of sparks, and those sparks are literally "inspirational material". Going in bold directions, failing and retrying, reinventing, etc etc etc is what we all need in the entertainment industry.

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 14:39

...wait, are you saying that the time loop still hasn't been broken?

bladeofdarkness

2009-07-09, 14:39

extremely deep immersion anime
when the ep when this DOES end comes about, we'll all feel more joy then we ever felt when watching an anime episode :heh:

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 14:43

...how exactly does Kyoani expect to sell 5+ episodes of disappearance on DVD?

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 14:43

Apparently it was foolish to expect more than the whiny ragefest that is this thread. If all you're going to do is simply pile into the whaaambulance, spare us all another refresh.

Frankly, I don't know why you bother anymore either. >_>

Agree totally.

But like I've said countless of times in several different threads, is that the way they are doing this they might actually pull it off with a big bang.

The reason is because all the new episodes so far serve as the building blocks required for Disappearance. The way they're pissing us all of would ultimately make Disappearance a much more emotional wild ride, which I hope would enhance the experience.

This would mean they'd need to drop Sighs. No real loss. :heh:

...wait, are you saying that the time loop still hasn't been broken?

Yuuuup.

...how exactly does Kyoani expect to sell 5+ episodes of disappearance on DVD?

I think you mean "Endless Eight", but I'm thinking they overestimated how loyal their fanbase is.

But we'll see when the DVD sales come out. How much do you wanna bet that they'll still sell really really well?

LumpOfCole

2009-07-09, 14:46

I'm actually kind of hoping that they throw canon to the wolves at this point and keep repeating Endless Eight for the remainder of the season, only to have Yuki SNAP in the finale and literally kill everyone in a murderous rampage.

Ithekro

2009-07-09, 14:49

Does someone have a list of the art directors for these four episodes?

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 14:51

I think you mean "Endless Eight", but I'm thinking they overestimated how loyal their fanbase is.

But we'll see when the DVD sales come out. How much do you wanna bet that they'll still sell really really well?
Yeah, my bad. I can't seei Kyoani putting the bulk of these episodes on any DVD. Most people would likely just not consider it worth it and resort to pirating HD video's from online. The best way to minimize the loss from DVD sales from having so much of endless 8 in it, would likely to spread the episodes out through all the released DVD's.

I'm not really pissed about this, merely perplexed. None of this makes sense from a marketing perspective, since all it does is cheapens the value of the product that Kyoani will have to sell on the DVD. They're not doing it for the fans, since the fans are royally pissed...it's almost like all the paranoids who said that this was all just an elaborate way to troll the fandom on the part of Kyoani.

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 14:53

It's almost like all the paranoids who said that this was all just an elaborate way to troll the fandom on the part of Kyoani.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

Thanks to this, you'd be hard-pressed to have me give a rat's ass about the anime at this point, unless they somehow fit in Disappearance, but I doubt it.

Maybe I'll just go reread the novel.

jonli

2009-07-09, 14:54

Frankly, I don't know why you bother anymore either. >_>

This would mean they'd need to drop Sighs. No real loss. :heh:

Yuuuup.

I think you mean "Endless Eight", but I'm thinking they overestimated how loyal their fanbase is.

But we'll see when the DVD sales come out. How much do you wanna bet that they'll still sell really really well?

Well in my prediction, all this E8 crap is going to count as one broadcast or two only. I know that's probably impossible but I still feel like this is all part of the plan. Sighs does serve some purpose in Disappearance, it does develop Kyon's perspective of the SOS Dan which contributes to the events in Disappearance.

I DO think Sighs is essential in the over-all formula of the series, mainly because it'll make Episode 00 A LOT LOT LOT LOT MORE enjoyable. The effect of Mikuru Densetsu would benefit so much from Sighs, and since this is a reboot to season 1 where tehy fill in the blanks. That's a blank they must not miss.

I personally think the DVDs wouldn't even be any of these 6 episodes. It'll be an entirely new Endless Eight, where they take scenes from each episode and reanimate them, then give them a new loop number. Then connect it with the episode that finally breaks the loop, so at most 2 episodes on the DVD.

That's just a wild guess, but assuming how much edits production companies do with DVDs these days it's not impossible. Some DVD versions of the anime aren't even the same thing anymore.

CrowKenobi

2009-07-09, 14:55

Yeah, my bad. I can't seei Kyoani putting the bulk of these episodes on any DVD.Why? Except for the same story, all the animation is different for each episode...

<shrugs shoulders>

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 14:56

Well in my prediction, all this E8 crap is going to count as one broadcast or two only.

An episode is an episode. They bought 28 episodes worth of broadcast time.

No, that's not going to happen. I will fall over like they do in bad gag anime if it does.

Takamura Mamoru

2009-07-09, 14:57

We can still looks forward to the novels coming out in America, at least.

How would you feel about Disappearance being made into a movie? Would be cool imo. (No, I'm not making theories here, I honestly believe they'll only churn out shit at this point)

relentlessflame

2009-07-09, 14:57

Frankly, I don't know why you bother anymore either. >_>Because I expect to be able to go into a thread for an anime I'm interested in and see more than endlessly-repetitive whining, off-topic tangents and novel spoilers? This is a discussion forum, not a chat room.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

Thanks to this, you'd be hard-pressed to have me give a rat's ass about the anime at this point, unless they somehow fit in Disappearance, but I doubt it.

Maybe I'll just go reread the novel.So why don't you just go do it already rather than telling us over, and over, and over again that you're done with this show? I'll believe it when I see it -- or in this case, when I don't see it. Otherwise, could you at least stop pretending you don't care?

Ithekro

2009-07-09, 14:57

Wow...one wonders how people will take "Koi no Mikuru Densetsu" this time around.

jonli

2009-07-09, 14:58

An episode is an episode. They bought 28 episodes worth of broadcast time.

No, that's not going to happen. I will fall over like they do in bad gag anime if it does.

Is it possible for them to have lied? Along with the broadcast station?

Or is it against the law for the TV broadcast schedule to be fake?

Genuine question, not sarcasm @_@

Sister Princess

2009-07-09, 14:58

Nudvik

2009-07-09, 14:59

You know what pisses me off the most? That it's such a fantastic adaptation when they actually want it to be.
We could've been treated to a wonderful new season of Haruhi, filled with brilliant and entertaining episodes. When they decided to fuck around at the end of the second episode, they harmed that. At this point, it's completely and utterly ruined.

Roger Rambo

2009-07-09, 15:01

CrowKenobi

2009-07-09, 15:03

Wow...one wonders how people will take "Koi no Mikuru Densetsu" this time around.Good point. If people are crabbing about the repetition, then they'll crab about the poor animation of the episode... :p :heh:

Kaisos Erranon

2009-07-09, 15:03

Is it possible for them to have lied? Along with the broadcast station?

Or is it against the law for the TV broadcast schedule to be fake?

Genuine question, not sarcasm @_@

I'm pretty sure printing false information is illegal, yeah, unless you print some kind of retraction.

We never got official confirmation, though, so it could be as long as they want it to be.

You know what pisses me off the most? That it's such a fantastic adaptation when they actually want it to be.
We could've been treated to a wonderful new season of Haruhi, filled with brilliant and entertaining episodes. When they decided to fuck around at the end of the second episode, they harmed that. At this point, it's completely and utterly ruined.

RUINED FOREVER

Seriously though, it really could have been great if they weren't doing this. But they are.

It's gloriously amusing now.

Why would Kyoani produce five episodes that didn't give them any money?

And that is the question that will bother the fandom for all eternity.

Nudvik

2009-07-09, 15:05

Apparently it was foolish to expect more than the whiny ragefest that is this thread. If all you're going to do is simply pile into the whaaambulance, spare us all another refresh.

Btw, are you claiming that rage is unjustified at this? That we should just lap up all the bullshit thrown our way? Accept that we're not going to see stories adapted simply because they wanted to play silly buggers?

I'd honestly love to hear your reasoning as to why.

Dakota

2009-07-09, 15:05

Is it possible for them to have lied? Along with the broadcast station?

Or is it against the law for the TV broadcast schedule to be fake?

Genuine question, not sarcasm @_@

Hey, ma if you could see me now
arms spread wide on the starboard bow
gonna fly this boat to the moon somehow
like Kevin Garnett, anything is possible

I'm pretty sure printing false information is illegal, yeah, unless you print some kind of retraction.

See: Freedom of The Press

relentlessflame

2009-07-09, 15:05

That doesn't really make sense. I mean, making 5 episodes for an animated TV show isn't cheap. You're only gonna do it if you think it's gonna make you money. Since Kyo Ani doesn't get much (if any) money for simply airing the episode (since they have to buy airtime) their sole source of profit coming directly from the episode is DVD sales.

Why would Kyoani produce five episodes that didn't give them any money?Because Kadokawa and the Production Committee are the ones funding the anime, not Kyoto Animation specifically. The Production Committee pays for the airtime, pays Kyoto Animation to do the animation work, and handles all the merchandising. Kyoto Animation may get a portion of the proceeds of each sale, but they get paid something for their work regardless. So it's the producer/publisher that absorbs more of the risk, and so if they tell Kyoto Animation "we want to order <x> episodes of Endless Eight", the studio basically says "okay, whatever you say, boss..." (Perhaps not in those exact words. :heh: )

Btw, are you claiming that rage is unjustified at this? That we should just lap up all the bullshit thrown our way? Accept that we're not going to see stories adapted simply because they wanted to play silly buggers?

I'd honestly love to hear your reasoning as to why.I don't mind that people express their discontentment, obviously. What annoys me is that certain posters feel they must reply to every single post and express the same rage endlessly over and over and over again. Maybe there's a certain irony in this given the content of these episodes, but it's no less annoying here than it ostensibly is in the show. All the surface-level rage stuff does is just encourage more of the same endless whining, particularly when it's the same people who tell us over and over again that they're through with the show in so many different ways. At least if people could come up with something new to say...