Valkyria Chronicles 2 (PSP) Game Discussion

[sb075]

“So far it seems like most of the fans are really just happy to see the series continue – and, if VCII sells well, it means a much greater chance that the series can pick up again back on a larger console, like the PS3.”
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-SF-Console-Game-Examiner~y2009m9d20-Valkyria-Chronicles-could-return-to-Playstation-3

I have made up my mind to buy VC2 in order to realize that.

[JagdPanther]

With how fervently some of us follow this I doubt many here wouldn't get it, anyway. Like I'm buying a PSP just for this.

[grylsyjaeger]

That's it, I'm sold.

[Father Hentai]

With how fervently some of us follow this I doubt many here wouldn't get it, anyway. Like I'm buying a PSP just for this.

Seriously I would wait a bit until psp 2 has been announced. But I have also to admit that I have the PSP and the PS 3 already :)

[BetoJR]

The PSP Go has been announced for quite a while, man... granted, it's not all that dramatic a change, but...

[nikolaszax]

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Now who is that beauty?Selvaria's replacement as main female antagonist?:D
Gotta love how the empire always gets the cool characters.:rolleyes:

[JagdPanther]

The PSP Go is the PSP 2? I don't follow anything except PS3, really.

[MakubeX2]

Now who is that beauty?Selvaria's replacement as main female antagonist?:D
Gotta love how the empire always gets the cool characters.:rolleyes:

A pair of siblings who are at helm of the Gallian Revolutionaries. They are namely Bartoren(?) (VA:- Midorikawa) and Audorey (?) (VA:- Kawasumi) of Gassenar(?) Household.

And you miss out the most important info at hand. The Game will be out on 21st of Jan. Those who pre order the game will recieve special PV, a soundtrack and a code to unlock a special guest character.

[animee1]

Could Somebody translate THIS?

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[KariOhki]

A pair of siblings who are at helm of the Gallian Revolutionaries. They are namely Bartoren(?) (VA:- Midorikawa) and Audorey (?) (VA:- Kawasumi) of Gassenar(?) Household.

And you miss out the most important info at hand. The Game will be out on 21st of Jan. Those who pre order the game will recieve special PV, a soundtrack and a code to unlock a special guest character.

They're kinda dressed like Imperials, interesting.
January 21? A bit past the original Q4 2009 date but delays USUALLY lead to fixed bugs and stuff. That means it's about a 6-month turn around for the translation, that's good.

[MakubeX2]

Could Somebody translate THIS?

I've mentioned it just about a message before you. In case you miss that :-

The Game will be out on 21st of Jan. Those who pre order the game will recieve special PV, a soundtrack and a code to unlock a special guest character.

[nikolaszax]

I'm willing to bet that the character is Selvaria:D.

[animee1]

But... the 1936 stuff?

[MakubeX2]

I'm willing to bet that the character is Selvaria:D.

Wishful thinking. If there's any hint that she is, they should at least gave her the trademarked huge bosom as well as engage Ohara back.

But... the 1936 stuff?

Just another fancy name. Think "Document Of Gallia 1936" for the entire preorder package and "Gallia Journal 1936" for a cheap looking booklet featuring reused promo material complied together.

[animee1]

thank you very much ;)

[Runty]

A pair of siblings who are at helm of the Gallian Revolutionaries. They are namely Bartoren(?) (VA:- Midorikawa) and Audorey (?) (VA:- Kawasumi) of Gassenar(?) Household.

And you miss out the most important info at hand. The Game will be out on 21st of Jan. Those who pre order the game will recieve special PV, a soundtrack and a code to unlock a special guest character.

Coolies. Here's hoping that guest character is Marina.

For some strange reason, though, I think it's gonna be one of SEGA's characters. Please don't let it be Sonic...

[Shiroth]

Please don't let it be Sonic...
You know that would be amazing. Admit it.

[Runty]

You know that would be amazing. Admit it.

Actually, it wouldn't. It would be awful.

I mean, Sonic hasn't exactly had a good game since his Dreamcast days. And even though he's constantly trying over and over again, his game just hasn't been improving.

His presence would kinda foul up the VC experience, IMO.

[BetoJR]

I beg to differ. Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games was a phenomenal game, on the DS. :D

[nikolaszax]

TGS trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IStpgrv0vok

Still not liking the anime presentation(brings awful memories in my mind lol) and i'd rather have the old style back...
Apart from that gameplay has been improved,music gave me goosebumps,the aprt with the ad hoc mode was great and finally the samurai-like class near the end was awesome .

[kalbron]

I think the anime style is more due to engine limitations given that the PSP has nowhere near the rendering power of the PS3.

That being said I had to repeat the footage at around 1:45 before saying "No no no no no no!"

Bayonets close combat attacks = Yes please.

Halberds in a fight with guns = WHY THE HELL?!

Goddamn it Japan! Keep your fricken samurai to yourselves!

[Shiroth]

Actually, it wouldn't. It would be awful.

I mean, Sonic hasn't exactly had a good game since his Dreamcast days. And even though he's constantly trying over and over again, his game just hasn't been improving.

His presence would kinda foul up the VC experience, IMO.
Do you have a sense of humor? I was joking around. :p

[MakubeX2]

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Official Blog updated with designs for the game's primary antagonists, the Gassenar(?) Household. I have nothing aganist the pair of siblings revealed yesterday, but Glibert (old sunglassed head of Gassenar) and Dirk(?) (Armour) looks too ....funky for my taste.

[nikolaszax]

Official Blog updated with designs for the game's primary antagonists, the Gassenar(?) Household. I have nothing aganist the pair of siblings revealed yesterday, but Glibert (old sunglassed head of Gassenar) and Duke(?) (Armour) looks too ....funky for my taste.


Apart from the simblings the others look ridiculous and not fitting for VC imo.Especially the horn-guy(what's up with the horns?Some new fashion trend in VC timeline ?:rolleyes:)...crotch pointed-protection?Seriously?

[Shiroth]

I know they're not drills, but those drills are awesome.

& i quite like the female antagonists.

[kalbron]

"Piercing through Gallia with fearsome crotch drills! Who do you think we are?!"

"Circus freaks?"

"Close, but not quite!"

Hah.

[MakubeX2]

Apart from the simblings the others look ridiculous and not fitting for VC imo.Especially the horn-guy(what's up with the horns?Some new fashion trend in VC timeline ?:rolleyes:)...crotch pointed-protection?Seriously?

S/He-It looks like an Uber version of the Artifical Valk that was discuss earlier. And the name Dirk points to that person being a weapon. I wouldn't be surprise that, under the mask, it will be some one we knew.

Anyone up for an amnestic Faldio ?

EDIT :- Latest Info suggest that Gilbert is voiced by Banjo Ginga and Dirk by Soichiro Hoshi. This is rich now. Gundam fans will be in for a wild time. Ghiren Zabi commanding Heero Yuy and Kira Yamato aganist a good half of Celestrial Being.
Not to mention that the main female antagonist had been Profiled as Valkyria skilled in Sabering before.

[animee1]

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/196/196857/c20090924_valkyria2_08_cs1w1_480x640.jpg

[Neovoid]

There's also wires attached from the drill into the armor. I'm not sure, it could be a "Power Armor" or a "Powered Exoskeleton." Firearms had already made medieval suits of armor obsolete. BTW, wasn't the new Valkyria voiced by Haruka Tomatsu who also voiced Meliena Vashti from Gundam 00 S2?

[-Sho-]

So it means that in the ps3 version , they didn't beat the empire , just max ?
because its take place after the war .

[MrTerrorist]

So it means that in the ps3 version , they didn't beat the empire , just max ?
because its take place after the war .

The new villains in this game aren't from the Empire but Gallians. They are a group of Revolutionaries who want to overthrow the Gallian Government & start an Ethnic Cleansing campaign against those of Dasrcen descent.

[Neovoid]

So it means that in the ps3 version , they didn't beat the empire , just max ?
because its take place after the war .

Well also because Max was just using the Gallian Invasion Force to acquire the Valkolf and then build his own army up using Gallia as base to later take on the Empire and conquer of all of Europa in the future. I'm pretty sure that the soldiers who were loyal to the Empire and or Emperor would not have happily gone along with this.

[Moonsilver]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but here is some questions and answers about valkyria chronicles 2 at TGS 2009.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/tgs-2009-valkyria-chronicles-2-your-questions-answered-multiplayer-confirmed/

[Tamad]

Sorry to say, but those new antagonist designs look absolutely horrid. :rolleyes: I'll probably get used to them in due time though.

“So far it seems like most of the fans are really just happy to see the series continue – and, if VCII sells well, it means a much greater chance that the series can pick up again back on a larger console, like the PS3.”
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-6894-SF-Console-Game-Examiner~y2009m9d20-Valkyria-Chronicles-could-return-to-Playstation-3

I have made up my mind to buy VC2 in order to realize that.

Purchasing the game was set in stone from the very beginning, but that's still a great incentive for those who loved the original and wish to see it back on the consoles. If you truly want to support the series, then you know what you have to do now. It's true what Aaron Webber said though, I'm just happy to see the series continue.

And you miss out the most important info at hand. The Game will be out on 21st of Jan. Those who pre order the game will recieve special PV, a soundtrack and a code to unlock a special guest character.

That release date is for the Japanese version I am assuming of course, so now comes the choice of pre-ordering the Japanese version for all the nifty extra stuff. There's a possibility that all the bonus stuff will also be made as pre-order items or a special package for the U.S. version, but it doesn't seem too likely. At the same time, importing is expensive, and I don't want to have two copies lying about. The tough decisions that SEGA puts me through sometimes.

You know that would be amazing. Admit it.

I'll gladly admit it, Sonic would be the only Scout that I would use.

Not sure if this has been posted yet but here is some questions and answers about valkyria chronicles 2 at TGS 2009.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2009/09/tgs-2009-valkyria-chronicles-2-your-questions-answered-multiplayer-confirmed/

The biggest thing that caught my eye is the addition of multiplayer. Thank you Capcom.

[-Sho-]

Seems that there'll be Welkin , Alicia and some more in squad 7 .

Maybe i'll play this one even though i didn't play the ps3 version .

[Keroko]

I think the anime style is more due to engine limitations given that the PSP has nowhere near the rendering power of the PS3.

That being said I had to repeat the footage at around 1:45 before saying "No no no no no no!"

Bayonets close combat attacks = Yes please.

Halberds in a fight with guns = WHY THE HELL?!

Goddamn it Japan! Keep your fricken samurai to yourselves!

Halbert? Looks more like your average over sized anime sword, in which case they might have based the idea off this guy. (http://www.damninteresting.com/any-officer-who-goes-into-action-without-his-sword-is-improperly-dressed)

On the new antagonists, no real complaints apart from armor-guy looking a tad silly. But if his armor turns out to be Maximillian's experiments pushed further, that'd make him a nice tie-in.

I'm a bit in conflict over the old man's sunglasses. One one hand, they look cool. On the other hand, he looks pretty damn cool without them too.

[Neovoid]

And plus its a VIDEO GAME. Most of your characters are resilient to enemy fire and can take a few hits before going down. Most of us including myself have tried Combat Knife only run in COD4 and COD WAW with the exception of using firearms when only the plot dictates (e.i. taking out tanks and sniping). It was hard especially at higher difficulties, but not impossible.

As for the Antagonists, in VC we fought against a evil Emperor Lelouch and his Witch. I have a feeling we'll be fighting something along the lines of the Zabi Family from the OYW. So Sieg Gallia?

[kalbron]

Halbert? Looks more like your average over sized anime sword, in which case they might have based the idea off this guy. (http://www.damninteresting.com/any-officer-who-goes-into-action-without-his-sword-is-improperly-dressed)

From what I saw of the weapon there was a clear section at the top which was a black/dark grey colour, and the rest was a light brown. So it may well be a sword, but to me it looks like a polearm. Probably a naginata or however you spell it.

[Keroko]

Actually, the majority is a silver color, with only the hilt being dark brown:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Liinna/argument%20stuff/sword.jpg

Clearly a sword. A ridiculously oversized sword, but then Japan always has seemed to be of the opinion European weapons were large and brutish.

I myself am more pleasantly surprised that it seems to be a girl wielding that thing.

[Snowman24]

^A Darcsen girl at that, judging by the color of her hair and seems her eyes are the dark blue as well

[don_Durandal]

^A Darcsen girl at that, judging by the color of her hair and seems her eyes are the dark blue as well
If that's the case then I can bear with the oversized sword!
Need moar Darcsen chicks

[Keroko]

Out of curiosity, but has there been any news about changes in the point system? I had hoped they would change that glaring weakness, and reward tactical actions (such as giving points for flanking the enemy, hitting them from behind, targeting their weak spots, using grenades and flamethrowers for dealing with units in cover, capturing all points and clearing the map of all enemies) rather than how fast you can run towards the final flag.

[JagdPanther]

I'm not sure you could reward some of those things. It'd be too hard to calculate (like flanking the enemy). Perhaps more points for shooting them before they notice you, though (the blue line indicates that they don't know you're there).

[Keroko]

It's actually quite simple, flanking can be calculated by the route your characters take (do you take the bushes and sideroads, or charge straight through). Direction is already in the game (enemies you shoot from behind don't shoot back, remember?) so adding points for that is simple. Targeting the weakspots is also easy. You'd get more points for hitting a tank's radiation then you get for hitting it several times from the front.

Grenades and flamethrowers on units in cover is pretty self explanatory. As is capturing all points and clearing the map of all enemies.

The finishing touch would then be to lower the score for the amount of turns you take to complete it. Not remove it, of course, but I always found it ridiculous that the only way to get an A in a tactical RPG was to make a blind dash to the goal, sometimes straight through enemy lines, throw a grenade or two, and capture it in as few turns as possible.

[grylsyjaeger]

Direction is already in the game (enemies you shoot from behind don't shoot back, remember?) so adding points for that is simple. Targeting the weakspots is also easy. .

No, enemies you shot from behind or from anywhere out of their sight angle would panic (sweat lines would flash above the head) and the accuracy of their return fire was lessened.

But I too would like to see some of the improvements you've mentioned.

[Keroko]

No, enemies you shot from behind or from anywhere out of their sight angle would panic (sweat lines would flash above the head) and the accuracy of their return fire was lessened.

Really? Could've sworn they only turn around... Oh well, I stand corrected. It's been a while since I played anyway.

[JagdPanther]

Really? Could've sworn they only turn around... Oh well, I stand corrected. It's been a while since I played anyway.
You must've quit the action immediately after firing. If you do it fast enough you can prevent return fire, but they'll still lob off interception fire if you don't quit the action after attacking from behind.

[grylsyjaeger]

You must've quit the action immediately after firing. If you do it fast enough you can prevent return fire, but they'll still lob off interception fire if you don't quit the action after attacking from behind.

No I'm positive if you attack from behind they still get to counter attack it's just with lessened accuracy.

[Shiroth]

No I'm positive if you attack from behind they still get to counter attack it's just with lessened accuracy.
Yep that's happened to me quite a few times.

[JagdPanther]

No I'm positive if you attack from behind they still get to counter attack it's just with lessened accuracy.
Okay, my bad, you're right. I was thinking that as I typed it, but for some reason I said otherwise.

[grylsyjaeger]

I know if you throw a grenade and it doesn't kill them they won't counter-attack but you better get to cover or end your turn to avoid interception fire. =D

[JagdPanther]

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

[MrTerrorist]

Producer Shinji Motoyama gives particular insights into Valkyria Chronicles 2.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-valkyria-chronicles/57094

Looks like the anime helped VC2 on what to do with the cinematics.

[SoggySoyBean]

Looks like the anime helped VC2 on what to do with the cinematics.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...................... .............

[MrTerrorist]

Jann:Ohh hush you.

With the limitations on what the PSP can do, the makers made a reasonable & understandable choice of using anime cut-scenes.
Even though i can never forgive on how the anime adapted the games storyline, at least the animation was good.

Jann:I didn't think it was that bad.

That's because you got a lot lines to say in the anime.

Jann:Are you jealous? Somebody needs a hug.

I don't need one. BTW is that Largo carrying a box of Vegetables?(Secretly runs away only to be kidnap by Marina & Catherine)

Jann(Oblivious on what's happening):Largo!? Where?! OH LARGO!! JANN IS HERE TO HELP YA!!

[kalbron]

Agreed. Game engine rendering for cutscenes like on the PS3 would take up processing power that the PSP just doesn't have. Having it run a movie file is what it is capable of.

[JagdPanther]

*sigh*

WHY is this on PSP?

The Academy idea looks so terrible. If I wanted a slice-of-life setting I'd go watch one of a million animes. The first game was a very good war story with lots of human emotion and human story elements. This is... I get a bad feeling that this'll be something like a typical school anime with guns.

[Neovoid]

I why do I have the feeling that they might make the VC Anime the "Canon" of the VC storyline?

The original VC ended with Welkin and Alicia as a married couple with Isara looking like a 3 or 4 year old little girl. The problem is, VC takes place 2 years after EWII where a civil war takes place. The ending of VC1 felt like aftermath of EWII and not the Civil War. When the creators planned this ending, I didn't think they were planning a sequel at that time. The VC anime kind of retcons that instead of taking place presumably 4 years later. Also, Max's GN Lanc- I mean artificial Valkyrur Lance and GN Shie- I mean Valkyrur Shield looks more compact and it didn't depend on multiple generators on the Mamorta. This will probably serve as a prototype to the new soldiers with some kind of Power Armor that the GRA possess

[don_Durandal]

I why do I have the feeling that they might make the VC Anime the "Canon" of the VC storyline?
Erk. The anime changed so much from the game's storyline for the worst, I sure hope not.
Besides, that would mean making quite a lot of side character's death cannon and that'd be hard to swallow. Like Vyse, Wendy and Musaad. (not to mention Knute, Mica, Nils, Rosina, Hermes, Salinas, etc.. Herbert and Cezary can die though)

[Yu Ominae]

Some members of the GRA are revealed on the official site. Apparently,



It involves a noble family in Gallia. No mummy here.

[JagdPanther]

I why do I have the feeling that they might make the VC Anime the "Canon" of the VC storyline?

The original VC ended with Welkin and Alicia as a married couple with Isara looking like a 3 or 4 year old little girl. The problem is, VC takes place 2 years after EWII where a civil war takes place. The ending of VC1 felt like aftermath of EWII and not the Civil War. When the creators planned this ending, I didn't think they were planning a sequel at that time. The VC anime kind of retcons that instead of taking place presumably 4 years later. Also, Max's GN Lanc- I mean artificial Valkyrur Lance and GN Shie- I mean Valkyrur Shield looks more compact and it didn't depend on multiple generators on the Mamorta. This will probably serve as a prototype to the new soldiers with some kind of Power Armor that the GRA possess
OH GOD NO.

Don't even talk about that! :frustrated:

[kalbron]

I why do I have the feeling that they might make the VC Anime the "Canon" of the VC storyline?

The original VC ended with Welkin and Alicia as a married couple with Isara looking like a 3 or 4 year old little girl. The problem is, VC takes place 2 years after EWII where a civil war takes place. The ending of VC1 felt like aftermath of EWII and not the Civil War. When the creators planned this ending, I didn't think they were planning a sequel at that time. The VC anime kind of retcons that instead of taking place presumably 4 years later. Also, Max's GN Lanc- I mean artificial Valkyrur Lance and GN Shie- I mean Valkyrur Shield looks more compact and it didn't depend on multiple generators on the Mamorta. This will probably serve as a prototype to the new soldiers with some kind of Power Armor that the GRA possess

I don't see how it negates the VC1 story at all. Honestly, EWII could continue on even after the events of VC1, and could be over by the time of the VC1 ending. It's just that the Imperial invasion of Gallia had come to a grinding halt.

It would've been very possible for there to be a peace accord with the Empire -> two year gap -> civil war -> end of VC2 -> ???/VC 3 (against the Federation perhaps?) -> shown VC1 ending.

As for the whole generators thingy: the anime team are lazy. What, you thought there was a deeper meaning to that lacklustre final fight? Pfft.

[cloner4000]

I checked Gamestop and the release date for North America is June 2010...wow....I can barely wait.

I have no problems with the setting and what not...I mean if you didn't go WTF when Isara said she took tank repair and driving class in High school... a military academy isn't that far off.

Maybe it's because I've played persona series that I don't mind school setting.

Plus the TGS trailer has ad-hoc multi-player, I am looking forward to that...and the sword slash..if lancer can do that it would be awesome!!!

The PSP probably go with PSP because it's easier to render anime than the CANVAS engine in good quality. And since the game was made by the original team, not the anime team..hopefully we can avoid some of the things they did in the anime.


The development team made it clear as explain by someone quite a while ago, that they are sure they are making it as a direct sequel instead of AU setting..So don't have to worry about that.

Although some people are not happy when SEGA said they'll consider future VC games set in console if this one sells well. Well as a VC fanboy..I myself are very happy at the news..

[Misuzu]

I can't wait for his game, but I love my PSP. That and my DS are pretty much all I play anymore.

[NettoSaito]

I'm glad this game is coming out for the PSP. I don't have a PS3 (but I may buy one when more games for it come out), and well this is the perfect chance for me to play the game. (Watching it on youtube just isn't the same....)

Really more people have the PSP than the ps3, which making a psp release is good for marketing. You'll gain more money if you sell it for something more people have. Also even though psp games are 30-40 $ and ps3 games are 60. More people having a psp would make up for the 10 or so $ loss.

It really is a good move to move it to the psp. Also on top of that I read that they might make a console version. (If they did that then they would make a lot of fans happy, bring more fans in, and they could make twice the money. Pretty smart move really.)

[MrTerrorist]

Here's some sad news for some of you VC1 fans that i read from wikipedia:
However, with the intense fight against the Empire having left Gallia's regular army in an exhausted state, there is initially little to stop the insurrection from gaining momentum. Laws preventing the formation of a national militia to fight fellow Gallians force the government to deploy military academy cadets to the front lines in order to combat and defeat the GRA forces.
In order words, don't expect playing anyone from VC1 since the Militia can't get involve in the civil war.

[yezhanquan]

You forget that there is such a thing as "renegades".

[JagdPanther]

I'm glad this game is coming out for the PSP. I don't have a PS3 (but I may buy one when more games for it come out), and well this is the perfect chance for me to play the game. (Watching it on youtube just isn't the same....)

Really more people have the PSP than the ps3, which making a psp release is good for marketing. You'll gain more money if you sell it for something more people have. Also even though psp games are 30-40 $ and ps3 games are 60. More people having a psp would make up for the 10 or so $ loss.

It really is a good move to move it to the psp. Also on top of that I read that they might make a console version. (If they did that then they would make a lot of fans happy, bring more fans in, and they could make twice the money. Pretty smart move really.)
I see the reasoning; those are good points.

One of the game's strongest, best points was "the look," the graphics. Moving to PSP totally kills that point.

Why would you move DOWN the scale of video game systems for the next major installment of a series?

If they bring it back onto PS3 eventually I'll be happy.

[yezhanquan]

I don't know. Those 3D graphics are a little Uncanny Valley-ish. With the new PSP system, sales of PSPs might go up.

[cloner4000]

Well, the graphics looks good compare to other PSP games, and if they do the cutscene in anime...it's be pretty crisp and clear. The gameplay while definitely not PS3, can hold its own.

I remember in gamefaqs..there is this guy who's like they can totally make this game on PSP since it's not "realistic 3d"..ohhh how I would love for him to see this...

[kalbron]

Here's some sad news for some of you VC1 fans that i read from wikipedia:

In order words, don't expect playing anyone from VC1 since the Militia can't get involve in the civil war.

Y'know, those sorts of laws make some sense, and probably relate to, not forming militia to use against people rioting against the crown over bread prices and whatnot.

Against full blown treason with the declared intention of killing your ruler, that's absolutely farcical.

[Runty]

Looks like TGS09 brought a lot of VC2 material out. Specifically, check out this:

http://valkyria2.jp/mov_download03.html

Looks like some great stuff, especially near the end.

[kalbron]

After doing a bit more digging on the site it seems like they've replaced the Engineer with the Medic class, but the Medic class still hands out ammo while doing healing like an Engineer... making me simply ask why?

Also, Lancers have lost their awesome armour for some pitiful gold plating gunk, and the lances themselves look like the cruddy designs from the anime. D=

Edit: Also, looking at the characters page http://valkyria2.jp/character.html

Does anyone get Anime!Faldio vibes from the secondary character on the far left? The pose strikes me as an arrogant ladies man character. Guess we know who the main character of the VC2 anime will be...

Edit2: In addition it looks like they will be showing a bit more of the serious repercussions of war and how it affects those participating. Should be good if they don't go too overboard/emo: http://valkyria2.jp/mov_character02_02.html

Edit3: Also, who said that there wouldn't be any people from the militia back? http://valkyria2.jp/mov_character03.html

Think this might mean we'll see Jane pop up as the Drill Sergeant's assistant? Also rofl at calling the trio "A Team".

[JagdPanther]

I have a bad feeling about this game; not gonna lie.

They really do look like they're making a high school slice-of-life with war as a side-dish kind of game. The dude with the glasses looks like the consummate class president, the other guy is the cool kid, and the girl is the one they'll fight over...

[MrTerrorist]

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[Keroko]

The Academy idea looks so terrible.

Considering this academy was already present in VC1, I suppose that game was terrible as well?

By the looks of things, especially that last clip in Terrorists post, this game is going to focus on what really happens when you send a couple of kids to the front line. VC was all happy heroic, this game, rather than slice-of-life has a much, much darker setting than the first one.

After doing a bit more digging on the site it seems like they've replaced the Engineer with the Medic class, but the Medic class still hands out ammo while doing healing like an Engineer... making me simply ask why?

Makes me wonder why they refer to her with the same title as they do an engineer in VC1 though.

As for why, the answer would seem quite obvious. She's a support class. Besides, 'healing like an engineer' makes it sound as if healing was engineer exclusive. It wasn't.

Also, Lancers have lost their awesome armour for some pitiful gold plating gunk, and the lances themselves look like the cruddy designs from the anime. D=

Remember the armor upgrades that are to be in this game?

[JagdPanther]

Considering this academy was already present in VC1, I suppose that game was terrible as well?

By the looks of things, especially that last clip in Terrorists post, this game is going to focus on what really happens when you send a couple of kids to the front line. VC was all happy heroic, this game, rather than slice-of-life has a much, much darker setting than the first one.
Um... the academy wasn't present in VC1. At all. Ever.

The training grounds you use were not the academy.

There may be some dark stuff in this game just as there was in VC1, but too much evidence so far suggests this will be more teen angst romance than war story. Basically... the anime.Makes me wonder why they refer to her with the same title as they do an engineer in VC1 though.

As for why, the answer would seem quite obvious. She's a support class. Besides, 'healing like an engineer' makes it sound as if healing was engineer exclusive. It wasn't.
No, but engineers did have the ability to heal up to 100% health, unlike other classes. That's probably what "healing like an engineer" means.

[cloner4000]

I think most of people shut their sense off when they hear the high school analogy. Any of you ever surprised or think it's a little weird that : Isara took tank driving training class and maintenance class in highschool? Or that Aisha is, 12? and most of the recruits average age around 17 and most other members certainly is younger than 20.

plus a Military Academy isn't all just focus on fighting...otherwise are you saying that military academy like West Point are a beef-up highschool?

The clip only show Cossette healing, the kanji for the "medic" reads "Support Soldier" which I thinik if I remember correctly is what they are also called in VC1 and the english translation is "Engineer"... plus there might be only things the unit is capable of doing.

by the way, the voice for the red-haired main guy sounds really familar...but I can't quite get a hang of who it is.

Thanks everybody for the update though....I wasn't even aware there is this much info out already....totally made my day.

[MrTerrorist]

by the way, the voice for the red-haired main guy sounds really familar...but I can't quite get a hang of who it is.

Well the 2 male leads used to be voiced in Gundam 00. You can probably guess who they are.

[jwai]

I would be impressed if they put in the Medic class to split off the healing support from the Engineer class. Engineers in VC1 could clear obstables and mines, repair fortifications, and had more grenades than anyone else, but you were pretty hard pressed to use them in an offensive role like a real assault engineer, since they were so fragile, and were more useful for healing your mates.

Also could be interesting if instead of having a Medic automatically evacuate a casualty, you have to actually move the the Medic to them.

I also wish that tanks wouldn't get instant killed with a single shot to the radiator. Sure, they can still take more damage to the rear, but instant kill made tanks a bit of a joke on the battlefield. It'd be a more rewarding challenge if you had to think more about approaching a tank problem.

[Keroko]

Um... the academy wasn't present in VC1. At all. Ever.

The training grounds you use were not the academy.

Because they totally teach tank engineering and squad command in high school. Right. :rolleyes:

Seriously, where else do you think the VC1 cast learned all that? This academy existed in VC1 the moment Isara and Welkin mentioned their specific lessons.

There may be some dark stuff in this game just as there was in VC1, but too much evidence so far suggests this will be more teen angst romance than war story. Basically... the anime.

I actually prefer that to the happy-happy joy-joy mood of VC1 (for example, I never liked how Welkin seemed to shrug of the death of Isara in the game. While the anime did go a bit over the emo-end, at least they did something with that). Don't get me wrong, I do like happy stories, but if you're trying to emulate war, then include the bad as well.

No, but engineers did have the ability to heal up to 100% health, unlike other classes. That's probably what "healing like an engineer" means.

*blink* They do? Huh, guess I have another reason to include them in my squad.

[SoggySoyBean]

I kinda want them to take the typical "war is hell" approach, but that was something the designers actually wanted to avoid according to the interview in the artbook. They said something about wanting to use the 3rd engine for something 'pretty' instead of raw and ugly-i.e. most other combat/war related games. Oh well, too bad for me :p

(for example, I never liked how Welkin seemed to shrug of the death of Isara in the game. While the anime did go a bit over the emo-end, at least they did something with that).

Me too!But yea... when I think about it, they excluded Isara alot in the game. Mysteriously missing in scenes, not being a playable character :upset:

[cloner4000]

I kinda want them to take the typical "war is hell" approach, but that was something the designers actually wanted to avoid according to the interview in the artbook. They said something about wanting to use the 3rd engine for something 'pretty' instead of raw and ugly-i.e. most other combat/war related games. Oh well, too bad for me :p



Me too!But yea... when I think about it, they excluded Isara alot in the game. Mysteriously missing in scenes, not being a playable character :upset:

In the trailer for VC2 you can actually see blood, and Cossete expression is pretty dark. I guess they are trying to strike a middle ground? I just hope they don't end up doing crappy for both.

The English voice for the scene didn't really sound too surprised, but the Japanese voice added some more sense of urgency...I think the anime expend on some event while downplay others so I think it's best if you view both to get the most out of VC universe.

Is military academy really such a foreign idea? I thought it's pretty normal to have military academy.

By the way engineer's large ragnaid heals somewhere around 250 or 300..which is most soldier's full HP but sometime you can't heal full to a badly wounded lancer which has around 400 or so HP

[kalbron]

Because they totally teach tank engineering and squad command in high school. Right. :rolleyes:

Seriously, where else do you think the VC1 cast learned all that? This academy existed in VC1 the moment Isara and Welkin mentioned their specific lessons.


At school. What part of "madatory milita training for all children from primary education onwards" doesn't compute for you? They couldn't send every student of Gallia to this single academy. They couldn't even occassionally send students across the country to this single academy for one-off lessons. They would have to run the training programs within their regional schools or else it would be pointless.

That being said however, this academy seems a lot like what you'd get from a 1950s version of West Point, Sandhurst or Duntroon. Taking the "best and brightest" and turning them into the future elite of the Gallian military.

That and I think I read on one of the clips that the academy is 200 years old.

[JagdPanther]

Because they totally teach tank engineering and squad command in high school. Right. :rolleyes:

Seriously, where else do you think the VC1 cast learned all that? This academy existed in VC1 the moment Isara and Welkin mentioned their specific lessons.
Compulsory military lessons at their individual schools.
I actually prefer that to the happy-happy joy-joy mood of VC1 (for example, I never liked how Welkin seemed to shrug of the death of Isara in the game. While the anime did go a bit over the emo-end, at least they did something with that). Don't get me wrong, I do like happy stories, but if you're trying to emulate war, then include the bad as well.
Not sure I agree with that perception of Welkin.
*blink* They do? Huh, guess I have another reason to include them in my squad.
Yup. Even if someone is at 1/XXX health, an engineer will heal them to 100%.

[Keroko]

At school. What part of "madatory milita training for all children from primary education onwards" doesn't compute for you? They couldn't send every student of Gallia to this single academy. They couldn't even occassionally send students across the country to this single academy for one-off lessons. They would have to run the training programs within their regional schools or else it would be pointless.

Nor can they give tank engineering at every single school throughout a country. The amount of tanks you'd need to yield a proper experience rate would be insane, and that's excluding the tanks they would also need for the actual army.

This academy answers the 'lolwut?' question that arose when Isara mentioned she took a tank engineering course at school.

Come to think of it, do they specifically say this is the only academy of the type? I could imagine several of these throughout the country.

Not sure I agree with that perception of Welkin.

Yet it's not far from the truth. Did Welkin even cry at all in the game? How sad was he? How long? There was her death, the funeral, a bit of "Isara would be happy" by the plane, and then... nothing.

Yup. Even if someone is at 1/XXX health, an engineer will heal them to 100%.

A better question would be then "Why did VC1 even have medics?" :eyespin:

[JagdPanther]

Nor can they give tank engineering at every single school throughout a country. The amount of tanks you'd need to yield a proper experience rate would be insane, and that's excluding the tanks they would also need for the actual army.

This academy answers the 'lolwut?' question that arose when Isara mentioned she took a tank engineering course at school.

Come to think of it, do they specifically say this is the only academy of the type? I could imagine several of these throughout the country.
A country that size, probably not many if more than 1.

Furthermore, it could very easily be that certain schools teach certain things well, just like in real life. Some schools are known for their engineering programs while others are strong in the social sciences (on the University level). Even some private prep schools are strong in certain areas.

And you can work on a mock-up or train on something less complicated. Besides, at least for Isara, it's pretty easy to get experience; she has a friggin' tank in her home.
Yet it's not far from the truth. Did Welkin even cry at all in the game? How sad was he? How long? There was her death, the funeral, a bit of "Isara would be happy" by the plane, and then... nothing.
But he was also a military commander and I thought they handled his reaction to her death very well. He wasn't uptight and d*ck-ish like he was in the anime, but he still carried out his duties. The war didn't stop for one guy to mourn.[/quote]

[Keroko]

A country that size, probably not many if more than 1.

So it's an unknown for now.

Furthermore, it could very easily be that certain schools teach certain things well, just like in real life. Some schools are known for their engineering programs while others are strong in the social sciences (on the University level). Even some private prep schools are strong in certain areas.

And you can work on a mock-up or train on something less complicated. Besides, at least for Isara, it's pretty easy to get experience; she has a friggin' tank in her home.

Regular schools can teach you the general basics, but not the specifics. Not unless they specialize on the subject like this academy does. Regular schools can most certainly not teach enough to maintain and hop into a tank as if its second nature, same thing for command or any military training, really. You'll need a specialized school for it, such as this academy.

But he was also a military commander and I thought they handled his reaction to her death very well. He wasn't uptight and d*ck-ish like he was in the anime, but he still carried out his duties. The war didn't stop for one guy to mourn.

I did say the anime went overboard with the emo, but Welkin shrugging it of like he did in the game felt far more unnatural to me. The least they could have done was give him a coming-to-terms scene like the Bruhl scene in the anime, something that really made it hit home that Welkin has lost his sister. Not a squad mate, but his sister.

[JagdPanther]

Regular schools can teach you the general basics, but not the specifics. Not unless they specialize on the subject like this academy does. Regular schools can most certainly not teach enough to maintain and hop into a tank as if its second nature, same thing for command or any military training, really. You'll need a specialized school for it, such as this academy.
Normally I'd agree, but then again this is the world of fiction.

And that still doesn't explain how this is coming off as a typical anime high school romance/comedy/drama with some war themes thrown in.
I did say the anime went overboard with the emo, but Welkin shrugging it of like he did in the game felt far more unnatural to me. The least they could have done was give him a coming-to-terms scene like the Bruhl scene in the anime, something that really made it hit home that Welkin has lost his sister. Not a squad mate, but his sister.
Different interpretations, then. I felt that the game handled it well.

[Key Board]

child soldiers + school setting work very well if taken seriously

remember Gun Parade March anime? (not Orchestra which was crap)

[Keroko]

Normally I'd agree, but then again this is the world of fiction.

True. But then, the same thing goes for it being impossible all Gallians studied at this academy. :p

And that still doesn't explain how this is coming off as a typical anime high school romance/comedy/drama with some war themes thrown in.

Hmyeah, well, I'm still holding my breath on that one, especially with the latest videos. This could become quite a deep story.

Different interpretations, then. I felt that the game handled it well.

Ah well, that's what makes us different. I myself am looking forward to this more darker part of the series.

[cloner4000]

And that still doesn't explain how this is coming off as a typical anime high school romance/comedy/drama with some war themes thrown in.

Different interpretations, then. I felt that the game handled it well.

And different culture..Western audiance perception of war are usually from movies (at least for me), which is different from the Japanese interpretation.

You can pretty much join military academy fresh out of highschool right? welkin was actually like 21 in the game which is quite old, so I think if we put them at the age around 18 or so, it's not necessary a highschool setting. unless you are saying since it's anime it has to have a high school setting???

and I like it way better if it has romance/comedy/drama...that's what sets this game apart from other.

If I want grit and dirty war experiences, I would play FPS or watch Band of Brothers...

[JagdPanther]

And different culture..Western audiance perception of war are usually from movies (at least for me), which is different from the Japanese interpretation.

You can pretty much join military academy fresh out of highschool right? welkin was actually like 21 in the game which is quite old, so I think if we put them at the age around 18 or so, it's not necessary a highschool setting. unless you are saying since it's anime it has to have a high school setting???

and I like it way better if it has romance/comedy/drama...that's what sets this game apart from other.

If I want grit and dirty war experiences, I would play FPS or watch Band of Brothers...
The difference being is that Welkin is an officer, and judging by the very limited sample size of Welkin and Faldio we have from VC, like in real life, you probably have to have a 4-year degree to be an officer in the VC-verse milita and military. We don't know for sure if Varrot has a college degree but I am going to go out on a limb and say, "yes, she does."

The high school setting would be more akin to an enlisted training facility.... i.e. boot camp.

The original VC definitely did have romance, comedy, and drama, but it was clearly not the main idea of the game. The more important facet was the war story, through and through.

[cloner4000]

Right, the focus is on war story, but the game story also focu a lot to develop Welkin and Alicia's relationship. I haven't seem any other RPG in recent memory that has go this far and this explicit to show a romantic relationship between main characters. most game have either implied, or non-existent.

[Runty]

Lots of new stuff on the website and the blog. In particular, we've got a new main cast character. Dunno her name, but she's likely the "hot-but-cold-blooded-bitch" type. Sort of this game's Rosie.

There's also another TGS video, but it's just explaining the gameplay basics. Stuff any VC veteran should already know.

[Df-tommy]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia2.jpg

Wow,Cordelia is 100% badass now

[Namihana]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia2.jpg

Wow,Cordelia is 100% badass now

I freakin' second that. Can't wait to see this new Cordelia. She looks dead set to defend Gallia.

[MakubeX2]

Official Blog updated with some of the new playable characters.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4503/ss5401.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/i/ss5401.jpg/)
Raymond Moen. Engineer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9109/ss5402.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5402.jpg/)
Erik Kampfmann. Assault

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9066/ss5403.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5403.jpg/)
Colleen Celsius. Lancer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1120/ss5404.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5404.jpg/)
Magali. Engineer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1188/ss5405.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5405.jpg/)
Nicole Martin. Scout

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2119/ss5406.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5406.jpg/)
Joachim Aasen. Armoured Trooper

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2776/ss5407.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5407.jpg/)
The aristocratic Juliana Eberhard. Class Unknown

[spawnofthejudge]

Question. Are we getting Engineers and Medics, or have they combined the two and anytime we see either we are to infer that the other is true as well? I don't have enough moonrune reading skills to determine this.

[Namihana]

Official Blog updated with some of the new playable characters.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4503/ss5401.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/i/ss5401.jpg/)
Raymond Moen. Engineer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9109/ss5402.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5402.jpg/)
Erik Kampfmann. Assault

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9066/ss5403.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5403.jpg/)
Colleen Celsius. Lancer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1120/ss5404.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5404.jpg/)
Magali. Engineer

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1188/ss5405.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5405.jpg/)
Nicole Martin. Scout

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2119/ss5406.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5406.jpg/)
Joachim Aasen. Armoured Trooper

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2776/ss5407.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5407.jpg/)
The aristocratic Juliana Eberhard. Class Unknown

Is that Magali person Darcsen?

And looks like an Ojou joined the ranks.

[Df-tommy]

Given her hair and eye color, and the fact that she has no surname, yes, she is probably a darcsen

[Keroko]

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/dftommy/Cordelia2.jpg

Wow,Cordelia is 100% badass now

.... I'm in love.

Official Blog updated with some of the new playable characters.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2776/ss5407.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5407.jpg/)
The aristocratic Juliana Eberhard. Class Unknown

Riiight. Color that hair light blue, those eyes red, give her a drill like lance and a shield... Class unknown my foot.

Jokes aside, not much eyecandy this time. One or two of the ladies, depending on your tastes, and the guys are... not really all that special.

Speaking of our newest additions, miss princess also has her very own page. (http://valkyria2.jp/character04.html)

Google translations are bad, but it seems to say she's a rich elite kid with an ego. The usual. Also she's the class rep.

Question. Are we getting Engineers and Medics, or have they combined the two and anytime we see either we are to infer that the other is true as well? I don't have enough moonrune reading skills to determine this.

Not sure. The class has a different icon, but the characters address our blond haired medic with the same term used for engineers in the Japanese Valkyria Chronicles.

If they have labeled them medics, then they seem to be the engineers replacement, as the last slot was taken up by this new class (http://valkyria2.jp/mov_battle05.html), which seems to be a close combat class, explaining the claymore we saw in the trailer.

[HashiriyaR32]

That video would be for the new "Armored Trooper" class. Said trooper is Joachim. Pic of him has already been posted.

[KariOhki]

Lookit the Zettai Ryouiki (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ZettaiRyouiki) on that rich pinkhaired chick! Wonder if she's tsundere too...
The Darcsen chick is cute, I want to hug her :3

[Snowman24]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1120/ss5404.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5404.jpg/)
Magali. Engineer


Woohoo more Darcsen girls!! <3 <3 <3. This ones cute and she actually has longer hair then the other girls in VC 1. I'm sure Lynns hair was longer then Isara, Nadine or Cordellias but she had it tied up.

but there has to be more!! more i say!!. Though I'm a bit relieved, I was alittle worried when the only Darcsen i saw was that one main character with the glasses.

[cloner4000]

by the way where did you find the side characters, the tab under character still shows blank...

Yea...the guy cast was pretty sad so far.. in VC1 at least you had Vyse, and couple other like Oscar Emile, Ted, Alex, Montley, Homer, are cool..at least for me...but this time...err...but I think there has to be more so I'll keep my eyes lit for those...

the girls are pretty good imo...I guess it's gear toward my type...

[Runty]

by the way where did you find the side characters, the tab under character still shows blank...

Yea...the guy cast was pretty sad so far.. in VC1 at least you had Vyse, and couple other like Oscar Emile, Ted, Alex, Montley, Homer, are cool..at least for me...but this time...err...but I think there has to be more so I'll keep my eyes lit for those...

the girls are pretty good imo...I guess it's gear toward my type...They're on the VC Japanese blog (which, to my dismay, I can't read).

[Namihana]

Lookit the Zettai Ryouiki (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ZettaiRyouiki) on that rich pinkhaired chick! Wonder if she's tsundere too...
The Darcsen chick is cute, I want to hug her :3

Agreed. Looks like a shy type too. :3

In fact, you can absolutely tell each of the new characters personality just by looking at them.

Well, what they'd show on the outside anyway.

[kalbron]

Riiight. Color that hair light blue, those eyes red, give her a drill like lance and a shield... Class unknown my foot.

Unless there's going to be a second Valkyria other than the advertised one... she's a bit too busty to be the advertised one in disguise.

[JagdPanther]

Cordellia == win

[Yu Ominae]

I wonder if Cordelia will fight now that she looks angry? :D

[Namihana]

I wonder if Cordelia will fight now that she looks angry? :D

You and I can bet on it.

Like I said, she looks dead set to defend Gallia.

[don_Durandal]

My.. Cordelia really has matured into a beautiful woman. She's even more gorgeous that before.

And a new Darcsen chick being part of the cast is sure to pick my interest.
Now to hope there will be other ones to make up for the likes of Vyse, Jane, Wendy or Musaad; although that sounds unlikely if they're school kids..

[Namihana]

Speaking of Vyse and the others...

I wonder if we'll see any of the sub characters from Squad 7 here on the second VC?

[cloner4000]

Speaking of Vyse and the others...

I wonder if we'll see any of the sub characters from Squad 7 here on the second VC?

I am betting on there would have to be...but probably not going to know until near or after release date...

Cordellia is wearing the militia uniform too, so he's probably going to stand in the front line or something...looking forward to it..her expression is dead serious..

[Namihana]

I am betting on there would have to be...but probably not going to know until near or after release date...

Cordellia is wearing the militia uniform too, so he's probably going to stand in the front line or something...looking forward to it..her expression is dead serious..

I say Jane might be the most likely one to reappear. I mean, she did become a new Drill Instructor so...yeah.

I think I'm gonna like this new Cordelia. After this game is released, I'm 100% sure fanarts of her being badass are gonna spread throughout the net! xD

[MrTerrorist]

How many classes are there in the game anyway?

[cloner4000]

6, I think they probably going to merge the role of engineer and medic..and additional one has a "hammer and shield" probably the one we've seem before with trailers. although I think this detract a bit from the gun-fight setting..

[Keroko]

6, I think they probably going to merge the role of engineer and medic..and additional one has a "hammer and shield" probably the one we've seem before with trailers. although I think this detract a bit from the gun-fight setting..

According to the class page (http://valkyria2.jp/battle01.html), there's only five classes. And yes, I agree that the armored trooper class detracts from the shooting setting... It's my biggest gripe with the game so far. I like the semi-WW2 setting, and this edges it closer to the standard fantasy setting. Not to mention the class seems ridiculously overpowered right now, I mean, being able to shrug of two shocktroopers and a tank firing at you? Without any buffs?

[JagdPanther]

Are the videos really, really jerky for anyone else?

[MrTerrorist]

You mean the ones form the official VC2 website? Yes.
The site is just downloads the video but unfortunately they didn't put a pause button in there. So you'll just have click the video, go do something else for about 5-10 mins while the site downloads & plays the video and come back and click the video again to see it with no jerky interruptions.

[Kyral]

According to the class page (http://valkyria2.jp/battle01.html), there's only five classes. And yes, I agree that the armored trooper class detracts from the shooting setting...

Wait what!? I miss a symbol here! So they... took out the snipers and replaced them with this!? Oo

[Moonsilver]

Wait what!? I miss a symbol here! So they... took out the snipers and replaced them with this!? Oo

Snipers are still around ;) just watched a video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-valkyria-chronicles/57776) and at around 2 mins 24 it shows the sniper class in action. No idea why the class is not shown on the official site :confused:

[Keroko]

*shrug* Equipment upgrade for the scout, maybe?

Snipers with scout mobility. Hmmmm.

[Runty]

I believe there was some info in the past that said that there would be a LOT of classes to choose from. I don't remember exactly where it was from, though.

Maybe they'll input a promotion system ala Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones, or something like that. That'd be pretty cool.

[JagdPanther]

*shrug* Equipment upgrade for the scout, maybe?

Snipers with scout mobility. Hmmmm.
Even I'd be making a call to nerf that...

[cloner4000]

Next all we need is upgrade for scouts to have heavy armor and anti-tank sniper rifle....

seems like there are a lot of customization, but what kind of customization isn't revealed. Guess we won't know till it come out with more details.

[spawnofthejudge]

*shrug* Equipment upgrade for the scout, maybe?

Snipers with scout mobility. Hmmmm.Even I'd be making a call to nerf that...If they made it so that Scouts become Snipers with Scout AP, it'd be nerfed plenty (Sniper HP. Think about it.), but I don't think I want that...

I believe there was some info in the past that said that there would be a LOT of classes to choose from. I don't remember exactly where it was from, though.

Maybe they'll input a promotion system ala Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones, or something like that. That'd be pretty cool.They almost did have such a promotion system int he first game; it's just that they merely became "Elite" and not all classes got a tangible advantage beyond a significant stat increase when they got there (Lv 11). I wouldn't mind this idea, but I wonder how the leveling up would work if there were choices as to what classes each squad member grew into upon level up. Do we know anything about leveling up? I hope it's the same... I loved not having to level everyone separately...

[Keroko]

I might be mixing things up here, but wasn't there a mention before about class specialization? This could potentially be that class specialization then, couldn't it?

[spawnofthejudge]

I might be mixing things up here, but wasn't there a mention before about class specialization? This could potentially be that class specialization then, couldn't it?Perhaps (though I don't remember hearing about that). Maybe each specialization levels up at the same rate within the same class.

That would solve a few things, I think, like...

Engineers could specialize in Medicine, becoming amazing healers to the point that they can revive people on the spot? (No turn of waiting if you're met by a Medic Engineer!)

Shocktroopers could specialize in Melee, allowing them more attack and defense power at the expense of range? (Wonder what would be the counter to a unit like this? A grenade?)

Lancers could specialize in crowd control, and actually be good at it for a change? (Mortars weren't all that useful in VC1.)

Scouts could specialize in Recon, gaining movement points at the expense of attack power? (They'd actually live up to their name, and be all about information!)

Ideas overwhelm me :eyespin:

[Kyral]

Snipers are still around ;) just watched a video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-valkyria-chronicles/57776) and at around 2 mins 24 it shows the sniper class in action. No idea why the class is not shown on the official site :confused:

Ah, thank you!
And as I saw now on the 'Battlefield' page they had still 4 "???" buttons down there so there may be still 4 pages of unrevealed classes left.

On another note, they made it clear in VC1 that there is some kind of 'Geneva Convention' in the VC world too, so it struck me a little strange seeing the medic girl running and around blasting people from behind. :heh:

[spawnofthejudge]

On another note, they made it clear in VC1 that there is some kind of 'Geneva Convention' in the VC world too, so it struck me a little strange seeing the medic girl running and around blasting people from behind. :heh:The only thing we know about that agreement, IIRC, is that poison gas is verboten. I hope to learn more about the agreement :)

[MakubeX2]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4899/ss5501.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/ss5501.jpg/)
Introducing your main mechanic in this game, Lavinia Raine.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3391/ss5502.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/ss5502.jpg/)
And Your basic tank in this game without upgrade here.

Oh and the Ojou-sama from the previous week has a voice now courtesy of Ryoko Shiraishi (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=16480)

[MrTerrorist]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4899/ss5501.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/ss5501.jpg/)
Introducing your main mechanic in this game, Lavinia Raine.

You also forgot to mention Tank driver too.

[JagdPanther]

Renault FT-17, anyone?

[cloner4000]

Ohh...the mechanic looks nice too.

It looks a bit different from the VC 1 standard tank..maybe they realize they need to improve on their tanks???? although spec wise I don't see much change really.

It seems like they are basing looks after real tanks rather than just parts from first game. Someone mention some tank looks like Shermans back from a while ago.

[don_Durandal]

Renault FT-17, anyone?

My thoughts exactly. They didn't even change much from the RL version.

Although the FT-17 was a revolutionary design in WW1, in the VC2 time period it feels really obsolete. Kind of an odd design choice, but it's not like the average game player will care ^^

[cloner4000]

My thoughts exactly. They didn't even change much from the RL version.

Although the FT-17 was a revolutionary design in WW1, in the VC2 time period it feels really obsolete. Kind of an odd design choice, but it's not like the average game player will care ^^



Well Gallian Tank aren't known for their prowl in battle..they are a bit better than imperial light tanks, but any thing bigger can dominate the battle field. I guess they try to go with this impression. 2 year for a recovering nation is not going to have any innovative design for tanks. Not to mention fate of Edelweiss is quite unclear in the end of VC1 if it's sitting in the garage or up in flames with marmota.

[grylsyjaeger]

My thoughts exactly. They didn't even change much from the RL version.

Although the FT-17 was a revolutionary design in WW1, in the VC2 time period it feels really obsolete. Kind of an odd design choice, but it's not like the average game player will care ^^

Well it probably is obselete in the VC universe too. I just doubt a training school would need a current spec tank for basic maneuvers and training.

[Runty]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2776/ss5407.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/ss5407.jpg/)
The aristocratic Juliana Eberhard. Class UnknownI may have found out Juliana's class type. She's likely one of those new shield-users. My guess is such a class is anti-infantry, but suffers against tanks, snipers, and (supposedly) Valkyrur units. Basically, anything that goes boom.

Here's a link for why I think this:
http://rpgland.com/news/valkyria-chronicles-2-new-scans-info/

This one also suggests that character supports are much more diverse, and could potentially be up to the player (ala Persona series). That's sure to cause some shenanigans.:p

Also, I think I have the pattern down for VC2 updates. They seem to be coming every Friday, so keep that in mind.

[cloner4000]

Hmm, the newest movie has a introduction for the units. and it showed a very definite class for snipers. the action gauge is also very low compare to scout, so it's probably not a combination of the two. anything else looks the same though.

[animee1]

Excuse me... but will be there a limited edition preorder? I haven't seen it

[Runty]

Looks like there's a pretty big page we didn't notice on the main VC2 website. Has lots of new pics, and what looks like a cover art for the game.

Then there's a classroom portrait... *gasp* Can it be? Is that EDY in the bottom left corner?! Yup, sure looks like it, folks! SHE'S BACK!

That should be enough to get you to look here:

http://valkyria2.jp/info.html

GO EDY!

[JagdPanther]

Well, no real surprise there. Of all characters to bring back, it'd be her. Much to my chagrin...

But at least there's more (sort of) of hot Cordellia.

[MakubeX2]

As mentioned way back on page 11 :-

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2624330#post2624330

http://blog.valkyria.jp/

Welkin and Alicia confirmed to be returning along with Edy from this week's blog update.

But it unknown whether they will be playable units.

People seem to have short memories around here.

[kalbron]

How old was she during the original VC? Unless she was 15-16, I don't really understand how she's still in what is essentially a high school.

That and she's lost the twintails which means there goes her popularity.

[MakubeX2]

How old was she during the original VC? Unless she was 15-16, I don't really understand how she's still in what is essentially a high school.

That and she's lost the twintails which means there goes her popularity.

Way back on page 7 :-

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2567713#post2567713

http://blog.valkyria.jp/

This week's update introduce us to the producer of the game who says to Edy that she might be amongst the subcharacters in VC2.

As stated earlier, the game will be in a school setting, so the focus will be on those students. But this does not mean that all the characters will be youngsters and teenagers, there will be students who are veterans and older folks.

And finally, we have stages that will specifically center on certain characters as well (Think the Largo,Rosie and Eleanor chapters in the 1st game.)

[Runty]

As mentioned way back on page 11 :-

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2624330#post2624330



People seem to have short memories around here.

Well, that was one thing, but now we have photographic proof that she's in. That's not something that can be disputed.

[sb075]

Preorder bonus

Selvaria as a playable guest character.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/207/207404/

[Runty]

Preorder bonus

Selvaria as a playable guest character.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/207/207404/

Now THAT'S just freaking awesome.

[cloner4000]

now I wonder what you could get to order the foreign copy? The US release for VC 1 had an art book..so we might be able to get the booklet for "Documents of Gallia"..but Selvaria as playable character is just way to nice...

[Nobunaga Oda]

I saw some mention (and resistance) in here about this game taking place in a school? For those who haven't played Mana Khemia: Student Alliance on the PSP (a spin-off of Atelier Iris, I believe), the entire game takes place in a school and is all about taking classes, and the game turned out really nice. That being said, it's not the end of the world, so it wouldn't hurt to wait and see how the game actually is before jumping to conclusions.

[MakubeX2]

Preorder bonus

Selvaria as a playable guest character.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/207/207404/

So she's the guest character they were talking about earlier. But more importantly, there will be a demo of the game for download from next week (2/11) forth on the PSN.

[spawnofthejudge]

People seem to have short memories around here.This is new? :heh:

At the top of the info page (http://valkyria2.jp/info.html) is a mention of an "Endless Mission" (adjacent to the picture of Cordelia in-game). Anyone better at moonrunes than me glean any more details from that?

[Kyral]

Preorder bonus

Selvaria as a playable guest character.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/207/207404/

*lols hard at Selveria in Gallian uniform*

Somehow I had suddenly the idea of her having amnesia and somehow ended up enlisting. :heh:

[MakubeX2]

At the top of the info page (http://valkyria2.jp/info.html) is a mention of an "Endless Mission" (adjacent to the picture of Cordelia in-game). Anyone better at moonrunes than me glean any more details from that?

It's just a reference that since there will be about 200 missions to attend to in this game, they will seem "endless".

And before people scramble to make their preorder for Selvaria, take note that she will not have Ruhm in this game. Moreover, the preorder bonues will be in limited quantity that will spread out to only a few retailers, so it's not a given that those who preordered will be recieving them.

[animee1]

It's true... I asked to yesasia and they will not have this.

Anyone knows who will be the lucky retailers?

[Yu Ominae]

I wonder if she'll be in other versions though? XD

[cloner4000]

Or at least be available as a separate add-on, although no idea how that would work with a PSP instead of PS3..Limited hype like these are really disappointing for those that can't get it...even though the price we have to pay are probably the same.

Think the oversea version might include it? maybe the US or European Sega Inc will be a bit more lenient.

[spawnofthejudge]

Or at least be available as a separate add-on, although no idea how that would work with a PSP instead of PS3The PS3 store has add-ons for PSP games, IIRC.

[yezhanquan]

*lols hard at Selveria in Gallian uniform*

Somehow I had suddenly the idea of her having amnesia and somehow ended up enlisting. :heh:

Or the old plot about her being one half of twins, and this sister is the exact opposite of Selvaria: still regal, but more upbeat and optimistic.

[JagdPanther]

I saw some mention (and resistance) in here about this game taking place in a school? For those who haven't played Mana Khemia: Student Alliance on the PSP (a spin-off of Atelier Iris, I believe), the entire game takes place in a school and is all about taking classes, and the game turned out really nice. That being said, it's not the end of the world, so it wouldn't hurt to wait and see how the game actually is before jumping to conclusions.
That's a spin-off of Atelier Iris, which was meant to be a cutesy-fun game, in large part.

Big distinction, I think.

[cloner4000]

I guess the point he's trying to prove that games set in school can be fun, not particularly set on a specific genre...I mean has anyone figure that exactly what genre to classify it as?

[JagdPanther]

I guess the point he's trying to prove that games set in school can be fun, not particularly set on a specific genre...I mean has anyone figure that exactly what genre to classify it as?
I understand his point. I'm just extremely skeptical of this concept for Valkyria.

[Key Board]

Actually, I've heard that this change was inspired by Persona 3

which is actually quite a morbid and depressing RPG, then again that's Shin Megami Tensei for you

another very old example of this is Gun Parade March. They never released the game in the West, but they did so for the anime. Despite it's school setting Gun Parade March always has a looming sense of anxiety and uncertainty

[Runty]

So, I think the demo for this game is out. Anyone care to tell what it's like?

[Moonsilver]

So, I think the demo for this game is out. Anyone care to tell what it's like?

I can't read or understand Japanese so not really sure on the finer details and some info may not be 100% correct. I've only had a quick go but to me it seems like the same good formular. If you're familiar with the first game you can quite easily jump into VC2 demo. There was a playable tutorial mission and a kind of skirmish mission.

The controls took a while to get use to, I would run towards an enemy press R trigger to enter aiming but instead I have just rotated the camera and I'm being shot at. The square button now enters the aiming mode and also changes equipment while in this mode. The left and right triggers rotate the camera and the triangle and X button tilt the camera. Circle is also the action button for crawling, kneeling against cover and climbing etc

In terms of characters you have the 3 main people (scout, shocktrooper and medic), a sniper, 2 lancers, another shocktrooper, a tank and there might be more, I can't remember. Most of the characters are the ones revealed already. The medic AP is quite short and her equipment consists of just her weapon and ragnite.

The mission is spread across 2 zones. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right but the only way I found to travel across the zones so far is by retreating in one zone and recalling them in the other zone. Unlike VC1 when I called reinforcements they appear instantly and you can control them straight away.

I'm not too sure the affect the morale causes. Overall I'm quite happy how the BLITZ battle system has been adapted from the PS3 to PSP. The demo mission did seem rather easy, your troops seem to be able to take interception fire, a sniper with what seemed like a single dot accuracy and the ai was not very adventurous. Will have to try again to make sure I wasn't just lucky. I'm pretty sure the difficulty will change in the real game.

[MakubeX2]

Look likes the Scout Rush is still the main criteria for S-Ranking the mission. I took 6 turns out of 20 to eliminate all enemies on the map before taking over the rally points and the game award me a C. I shall make an attempt for a scout rush to half the timing and see what the game has to say.

[cloner4000]

Is there a place to download the Demo or is it from Japanese PSN account?

Is the medic same role as engineer? or is there no obstacle to clear so we can't be sure exactly yet.

I think it's just for the demo, the tutorial for the PS3 also did not deal any real damage to you. But once you get to three or four if you are not careful you can die rather easily.

[Runty]

A new update was made to the website today, showing a lot of the new roster (though the secondaries don't have character videos). That's definitely Edy I see in the crowd, unless she has a twin sister.:D

There's also an video of the BLITZ system in action. Looks like they kept all the details from VC1.

The blog also got an update. Dang, I was hoping Edy would come back to it...

[Neovoid]

About the new classes, I agree that the new Armored Trooper does feel out of place. The ballistic shield is fine new additional because you often see these in other tactical shooters like Rainbow Six, SWAT, and in Modern Warfare 2. The default melee weapon looks kind of awkward looking almost like a Tomahawk. Normally you see soldiers or SWAT Teams with riot/ballistic shields carry a high powered pistol, SMG, or a Shotgun. I can see the Armored Trooper was designed for heavy close-quarters combat, rather than for an open field battle. Personally, it would have been better if the Armored Trooper was equipped with a shotgun with an optional bayonet to look more realistic. After all, in other games the “Shotgun” weapon was sometimes the high tier weapons that can cause incredible damage at close range and even take out multiple enemies in a single shot. Using a melee weapon is an interesting concept, but odd design choice but we'll see what direction they're going eventually.

[cloner4000]

As long as it doesn't get overpowered so that you can just run straight into enemy line and whack them.

After all, that is the job of the shocktrooper where you run into through enemy fire and use your submachine gun or flamethrower to knock out target. It's like the two roles are comflicting with each other a little.

Well, we'll see when the game out or more videos..the scout was said to be broken too. but it's all up to how a person uses them

[Neovoid]

I kind of feel like the Armored Trooper was designed to be an "Aggro Tank" similar to SWAT tactics where the guy with the shield would draw all the attention and gunfire towards him. Ultimately, the goals of a shield operator are to protect himself and the other members of his team especially in areas with little to no cover and close the distance between him and his enemy. I can understand why they opted for a melee weapon because its just too cumbersome to carry, aim, and fire a rifle or SMG using just one hand accurately. And a pistol isn't exactly powerful compared to a melee weapon at close range.

[spawnofthejudge]

If the armored trooper made it so that another member of the team could use their teammate as cover, nerf their offense because a shock and an armor could take on an army.

I want.

[JagdPanther]

I kind of feel like the Armored Trooper was designed to be an "Aggro Tank" similar to SWAT tactics where the guy with the shield would draw all the attention and gunfire towards him. Ultimately, the goals of a shield operator are to protect himself and the other members of his team especially in areas with little to no cover and close the distance between him and his enemy. I can understand why they opted for a melee weapon because its just too cumbersome to carry, aim, and fire a rifle or SMG using just one hand accurately. And a pistol isn't exactly powerful compared to a melee weapon at close range.
LMAO

I have NEVER heard that analogy made. That was good. :D

[Neovoid]

I don't suppose anyone has played COD: MW2 using the Riot Shield? Even though its a primary weapon, some people consider it to be very broken because it can stop almost all small arms fire and its almost indestructible. Not only that, you can use it to bash someone to death in just 2 hits and it can even ricochet bullets back at the enemy. Being a primary weapon means you won't be able to equip primary weapons like assault rifles, SMGs, light machineguns, or sniper rifles. Only secondary weapons can be equipped but nonetheless are still very powerful such machine pistols, shotguns, and duel wielding pistols or machine pistols and even sawn-off shotguns. The Riot Shield also has weaknesses. It can be destroyed along with its user with a Semtex Sticky bomb and flashbangs leaves the user vulnerable for a headshot.

Hopefully our Armored Trooper ain't going to that broken.

[sb075]

Welkin and Alicia are working at　military academy, and we can use them with conditions attached (Welkin as a scout).

Anime DVD vol6 bonus
Alicia (anime version) and Ramal as playable character.

Web comic bonus
Mintz and Julius as playable character.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/095/G009550/20091112003/

[JagdPanther]

RAMAL will be in the game?

Oh come on... >_>

[KariOhki]

Male Tsundere FTW \o/ I hope these get in the NA version.

[don_Durandal]

RAMAL will be in the game?

Oh come on... >_>
Look at it another way. He's the perfect candidate for the Splintered Horn medal.

...
Or not. I don't think I'd have the patience to unlock that idiotic kid's abilities before trying to get him killed.

[spawnofthejudge]

The Sega Valkyria Twitter Account tweeted that s/he/they are playing the Japanese demo >_<

[JagdPanther]

Look at it another way. He's the perfect candidate for the Splintered Horn medal.

...
Or not. I don't think I'd have the patience to unlock that idiotic kid's abilities before trying to get him killed.
Actually, that's a great idea. I refused to get that medal because I didn't want to get anyone killed, but he would be a great candidate.

[Runty]

Yay, we got more updates on the official website. Videos include Cordelia, Alicia and Welkin. Still, why no Edy video...?

I haven't found anything else, though.

[Firefly00]

I don't suppose anyone has played COD: MW2 using the Riot Shield? Even though its a primary weapon, some people consider it to be very broken because it can stop almost all small arms fire and its almost indestructible...

Thanks to the usual suspects I've seen footage of this thing in action. Sure, it's practically indestructible, but folks who consider it broken apparently aren't thinking it all the way through (see also: people who insist on referring to mated GLs as 'noob tubes'). As you note, a Semtex charge will make it and its wielder go bye-bye (this should also be true for rockets), and flashbangs create a handy albeit brief opening. Also, you can always lob grenades behind them (how many times have you had to do this to gun emplacements and so on in VC?). If the area is open enough, your teammates should be trying to flank the 'train'.

[cloner4000]

Welkin and Alicia are working at　military academy, and we can use them with conditions attached (Welkin as a scout).

Anime DVD vol6 bonus
Alicia (anime version) and Ramal as playable character.

Web comic bonus
Mintz and Julius as playable character.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/095/G009550/20091112003/

I am not quite getting the vol 6 bonus? is it for VC2? how does that work?

edit nvm I saw the screenshot..that's pretty cool though, to have various side character for other parts to play. Hope it survive the translation to English.

[Yu Ominae]

I assume they're all characters from a pre-order bonus or something?

[Yu Ominae]

I am not quite getting the vol 6 bonus? is it for VC2? how does that work?

edit nvm I saw the screenshot..that's pretty cool though, to have various side character for other parts to play. Hope it survive the translation to English.

Just to add that the webcomic thingy needs a special password.

[jwai]

RAMAL will be in the game?

Oh come on... >_>

Highly unlikely, but what if SEGA thought there was something worth salvaging for Ramal, and actually made him a decent character for this game?

[Runty]

Highly unlikely, but what if SEGA thought there was something worth salvaging for Ramal, and actually made him a decent character for this game?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if they made him uber powerful?

[grylsyjaeger]

I don't suppose anyone has played COD: MW2 using the Riot Shield? Even though its a primary weapon, some people consider it to be very broken because it can stop almost all small arms fire and its almost indestructible. Not only that, you can use it to bash someone to death in just 2 hits and it can even ricochet bullets back at the enemy. Being a primary weapon means you won't be able to equip primary weapons like assault rifles, SMGs, light machineguns, or sniper rifles. Only secondary weapons can be equipped but nonetheless are still very powerful such machine pistols, shotguns, and duel wielding pistols or machine pistols and even sawn-off shotguns. The Riot Shield also has weaknesses. It can be destroyed along with its user with a Semtex Sticky bomb and flashbangs leaves the user vulnerable for a headshot.

Hopefully our Armored Trooper ain't going to that broken.

Hey you can use throwing knives with the shield too, you know. Makes for some pretty awesome kills. Wait until the enemy empties their magazine and rather than rush them for a bash just throw your knife.

[RedShocktrooper]

This Armored Trooper is starting to sound like the Allied Peacekeeper from Red Alert.

So, all the enemy needs to do is throw Molotov Cocktails at it?

No, really. think about it. (http://portal.commandandconquer.com/portal/site/redalert/template.MAXIMIZE/factions_en/?javax.portlet.tpst=887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cd a0_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cda0 _viewID=proxy_view_secondary&javax.portlet.prp_887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cda0 _wcproxyurl=http%253A%252F%252Flocalhost%253A8080% 252FSiteAssets%252Ffactions%252FConscript.html&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken)

[Firefly00]

This Armored Trooper is starting to sound like the Allied Peacekeeper from Red Alert...

Heh, now you have me thinking of how weird a VC/RA3 crossover might get...

[HashiriyaR32]

Got the demo today, and one major thing I've noticed is that the Support Troopers now have a different weapon rather than sharing a self-loading rifle with the Scouts. Not only that, the AP they get has been reduced further. There IS one thing that's throwing me off, and that's the new weapon. It seems to look like a carbine, but somehow the game lists that class' weapon as a "PISTOL" O_O. So I decided to split the difference and consider the weapon a Pistol-calibre Carbine.

[Neovoid]

Got the demo today, and one major thing I've noticed is that the Support Troopers now have a different weapon rather than sharing a self-loading rifle with the Scouts. Not only that, the AP they get has been reduced further. There IS one thing that's throwing me off, and that's the new weapon. It seems to look like a carbine, but somehow the game lists that class' weapon as a "PISTOL" O_O. So I decided to split the difference and consider the weapon a Pistol-calibre Carbine.

A pistol caliber carbine? Are we talking about something similar to the M1 Carbine which fires a .30 caliber carbine rounds that look almost like a pistol round? Come to think of it, the M1 Carbine was often carried by other service troops like engineers, medics, mortar crew, radio operators, and even Sergeants and Officers. Also the M1 Carbine weighed about 5 lbs (2.5 kg) empty and for those of who carried and held various firearms, the M1 Carbine is extremely lightweight. Maybe the ammunition the support troopers are using is the 7.92mm Kurz (short).

[cloner4000]

knife throwing is just funny, I've seen my friend getting double KO from throwing knifes and knifing the other guy. But it would be hard to implement it in VC2 though, since it's not really an FPS.

Ramal is a nice character..I think...beside the fact I still don't know his purpose in the end..I almost thought he had one, but it prove me wrong.

Anyway, it's a welcoming sight to have old characters. I love Cameos.

[RedShocktrooper]

Heh, now you have me thinking of how weird a VC/RA3 crossover might get...

Off Topic: Three Words:

Commie Backstab Clusterf-! *Boom*

On Topic:

Wait... the Demo's out? What reigon, or all reigons?

[NettoSaito]

The characters in the demo seem pretty cool. I think I'm going to like them! Also it's nice to hear some of the originals come back as well... So yeah... CAN'T WAIT!

[spawnofthejudge]

Wait... the Demo's out? What reigon, or all reigons?Just Japan. Well, I should clarify. Since the PSP is not region locked, it is possible to get the demo to work on your PSP no matter where you are... the issue is that it's only in Japanese. If that doesn't stop you, I say you should download it and play it. (http://dl.segaonline.jp/VALKYRIA2_TRIAL.zip) (I'm going to do the same myself... as soon as I figure out how to get it from my computer to my PSP)

[cloner4000]

Just Japan. Well, I should clarify. Since the PSP is not region locked, it is possible to get the demo to work on your PSP no matter where you are... the issue is that it's only in Japanese. If that doesn't stop you, I say you should download it and play it. (http://dl.segaonline.jp/VALKYRIA2_TRIAL.zip) (I'm going to do the same myself... as soon as I figure out how to get it from my computer to my PSP)

you can connect it throw the cable to USB, it's the type that's common for most digital camera and stuff, or if you have a memory card slot for Sony. you can probably drag it to the game or iso folder.

thanks for the link though..I was wondering where you can get it.

[RedShocktrooper]

the issue is that it's only in Japanese.

Like I'm about to let a little thing like that stop me.

Goodbye RA2 OST and "Mutter," hello Tactical RPG Demo.

EDIT: Ya know... I haven't a clue how you put games on the PSP... hilfe mir!

[KariOhki]

EDIT: Ya know... I haven't a clue how you put games on the PSP... hilfe mir!

Easiest way is to use a USB cable to hook the PSP to your computer (something like a mini 6-pin to USB, I think?). Drop the demo folder into the Game folder on your PSP. There's a diagram on the demo download page.

And yeah, playing games in Japanese...either you figure it out, or you find an online guide and babelfish it. I got through Ar tonelico II this way, and plan to do the same for the third in that series.

[Runty]

Website just updated. We now have a hot science prof to add to the cast (or something, she wears a lab coat). Dunno her name...

Also, a somewhat awkward cutscene got added to Avan's profile. I facepalmed at seeing Cosette restrain him from doing something stupid. Again, can't determine what was going on.

Last is an update on the BLITZ system. It's now got all three videos up and running. Stuff any VC veteran should be familiar with, I'd think.

Last but not least, another blog update. Something about it made Avan look like a baka.:p

[don_Durandal]

Website just updated. We now have a hot science prof to add to the cast (or something, she wears a lab coat). Dunno her name...
She looks like the chief of the scientists experimenting on young Selveria in episode 24 of the anime.

[Runty]

She looks like the chief of the scientists experimenting on young Selveria in episode 24 of the anime.

I think you're onto something. A translation of her profile, albeit a crappy one, seems to indicate that she's an expert on Valkyria, science-wise. That, and she has old ties with the Empire.

So yeah, maybe she IS the scientist who raised Selvaria.

EDIT: This clip is a pretty funny one, but I could use a transcript.
http://valkyria2.jp/mov_character01_02.html

Can anyone assist?

[cloner4000]

I think you're onto something. A translation of her profile, albeit a crappy one, seems to indicate that she's an expert on Valkyria, science-wise. That, and she has old ties with the Empire.

So yeah, maybe she IS the scientist who raised Selvaria.

EDIT: This clip is a pretty funny one, but I could use a transcript.
http://valkyria2.jp/mov_character01_02.html

Can anyone assist?


yea and she also got famous through research on the artificial Valkyrian project. at least that's what I can guess from.

[Runty]

yea and she also got famous through research on the artificial Valkyrian project. at least that's what I can guess from.

Oi, do I smell a comparison to Einstein or what?

[Yu Ominae]

Heh, now you have me thinking of how weird a VC/RA3 crossover might get...

Which reminds me, someone wrote a VC/RA fanfic on fanfiction.net ;) :D

[Neovoid]

Oi, do I smell a comparison to Einstein or what?

I thought Einstein's Theory of Relatively gave birth to nuclear weapons? And wasn't he also the inventor of the Chronosphere and Prism Weapons? While the Soviet's Tesla weapons were obviously derived from the work of Nikolai Tesla.

[Runty]

I thought Einstein's Theory of Relatively gave birth to nuclear weapons? And wasn't he also the inventor of the Chronosphere and Prism Weapons? While the Soviet's Tesla weapons were obviously derived from the work of Nikolai Tesla.

I mean as in he was coerced into making military developments for Germany.

Found a video on Youtube that has given the new Prof. a name. Her name, apparently, is Clementia Forster. Dunno any other info besides that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q02S219Zgp8

[Runty]

TV website had an update on some content in the next DVD. This one features the voice actors playing the game, though I can't tell whether or not they're playing a demo or a beta.

BUT, we get to see Edy kicking ass, even if only for a second! YAY!

Here's a link:
http://www.valkyria-anime.com/special/pspwar/index.html

[Firefly00]

Which reminds me, someone wrote a VC/RA fanfic on fanfiction.net ;) :D

Oh, this (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5515102/1/Red_Alert). Read it, made note of it in a more appropriate thread.

[RedShocktrooper]

Dear God, what have I done?

Moving on...

Still can't get the darned demo to work.

[KariOhki]

TV website had an update on some content in the next DVD. This one features the voice actors playing the game, though I can't tell whether or not they're playing a demo or a beta.

BUT, we get to see Edy kicking ass, even if only for a second! YAY!

Here's a link:
http://www.valkyria-anime.com/special/pspwar/index.html

Though the katakana for the name of that character in game didn't look like Edy's at all...

[Runty]

Though the katakana for the name of that character in game didn't look like Edy's at all...

What? It didn't? Odd, because it looks like her (minus the pigtails).

[RedShocktrooper]

What? It didn't? Odd, because it looks like her (minus the pigtails).

Stage name, perhaps? I recall something about her trying to become an actor... of course, this could be a brainfart on my part.

[jwai]

Stage name, perhaps? I recall something about her trying to become an actor... of course, this could be a brainfart on my part.

Yep, that's correct. Edy went to acting after realising she couldn't sing ;)

[spawnofthejudge]

It seems more like that's not Edy, and she's just a girl who postures herself exactly the same way. (Uses the same algorithms for how she moves as Edy. It's like sprite recoloring in the future!)

[Runty]

Out of curiosity, what did the katakana for "Edy" read as?

[KariOhki]

Out of curiosity, what did the katakana for "Edy" read as?

It's rather blurry, but I believe the last character is "su", and I think I see a "yu" in there...can't tell for sure.

[RedShocktrooper]

It's rather blurry, but I believe the last character is "su", and I think I see a "yu" in there...can't tell for sure.

Since I don't know a word of Japanese, do those letters/characterse appear in this Edy-Clone's name?

Not that it would really actually say anything about it, since the names "Mikhail" and "Miles" have letters in common, and are totally different. I'm just weeding out possiblities.

[KariOhki]

I looked at the katakana for "Edy" and none of those seem to be in the name of the person in the video at all soooo...

[RedShocktrooper]

I looked at the katakana for "Edy" and none of those seem to be in the name of the person in the video at all soooo...

Oh Well... darn. I was hopping to get a Japanese lesson out of this.

[DC20]

My Japanese is about on par with my Afrikaans, but from what I can make out her name is Ri(something)Risu, with "something" most likely being "yu" or "ko".

My bet would be on Riko Risu.

[sb075]

My Japanese is about on par with my Afrikaans, but from what I can make out her name is Ri(something)Risu, with "something" most likely being "yu" or "ko".

My bet would be on Riko Risu.

Correct. She is Lycoris Nelson.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/84/wwwdotuporg394333.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/wwwdotuporg394333.jpg/)

[Runty]

Correct. She is Lycoris Nerson.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/84/wwwdotuporg394333.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/wwwdotuporg394333.jpg/)

So... she's Edy's sister or something? Nerson could be translated as "Nelson", which is Edy's last name.

[DC20]

Yeah, looks like they're related. Meh. I wasn't an Edy fan, but I suppose that's great news anyway. She's got a big fanbase, and I guess I can't complain that a lot of people are going to be very happy XD

[Snowman24]

Hmm theres a resemblence to the last name Nelson and Edy's appearance *lol complete with the hair ribbons*...prob younger sister since she's an academy student..maybe...prob where Edys sense of rivalry comes from, since siblings do tend to try and outdo the other one.

[JagdPanther]

Yeah, looks like they're related. Meh. I wasn't an Edy fan, but I suppose that's great news anyway. She's got a big fanbase, and I guess I can't complain that a lot of people are going to be very happy XD
If Edy's character wasn't so annoying to me I'd agree. If I was just "meh" about Edy, I think I'd find that a good thing.

[DC20]

If Edy's character wasn't so annoying to me I'd agree. If I was just "meh" about Edy, I think I'd find that a good thing.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm quite a bit less than "meh" with Edy. However, I figure I can just ignore this new character and pretend she pretty much never existed like I did with Edy and let her fans take care of using her. I'll never complain about people liking certain characters (as much as I don't agree) and throwing in the option can't hurt as long as I have the option to not use her. Or hear from her. Ever.

[Runty]

New update on the website. Got a video that takes a look at a few of the new classmates, and at some Scout evolutions. Check it out.

We also get a video showing our heroes getting their asses handed to them by an Artificial Valkyrur Corps. squad. That's not good...

[DC20]

I was kind of hoping the sequel would get away from the Valkyria thing, but if there's an Artificial Valkyrur Corps that doesn't seem to be happening... Oh well. I guess with Valkyria in the name there's not much of a choice, is there?

[RedShocktrooper]

I was kind of hoping the sequel would get away from the Valkyria thing, but if there's an Artificial Valkyrur Corps that doesn't seem to be happening... Oh well. I guess with Valkyria in the name there's not much of a choice, is there?

That's one of those little things that go without saying, isn't it?



---

Damn. Due to my own musings, I've equated Artificial Valkyrur Troopers with Tesla Troopers. AGH.

[asaqe]

Looking at the new voice actors, looks like the academy is the grassroots foundation of a war intervention group...now we got Anew coming back...too bad Setsuna and Lockon are out hunting a certain rogue prince in the desert to help CB fend off Gihren's super gundam generals.

[Runty]

Today's update is taking awhile to properly finish... The blog entry has been uploaded, though. Can anyone translate it?

EDIT: Update is finished. There are some new character videos, for Cosette (umm, her video is... weird), Zeri (sp?), and Juliana (whose still a bitch).

We also got a look at Shocktroopers and their new evolutions (the Gunner branch looks good for hitting lots of enemies at once). Also confirmed, it's not Edy in VC2. Her name is, humorously, Licorice Nelson. So she's definitely a relative of Edy's.

People, start peeling over the info.

[Snowman24]

Wow...so Cosette is afraid of blood and the smell of it and can't do her job as a medic...understandable, you can train forever in class, books and other things.

But nothing could prepare her for the reality of her job in a time of war I guess. Poor girl, too bad Fina, Mina and Gina weren't around to help her, they were pretty confident medics.

[DC20]

and Juliana (whose still a bitch).

Clarification. Bitch in all of the best ways, or bitch in a horrible, more reminiscent of the "C" word way?




Come to think of it both of those sound pretty awesome... :rolleyes: Wasn't really a Selvaria fan though, so unfortunately I'll still probably be pretty meh on her. Hopefully they'll come out with another equally bitchy woman to fill my needs.

[HashiriyaR32]

Also confirmed, it's not Edy in VC2. Her name is, humorously, Licorice Nelson. So she's definitely a relative of Edy's.

Lycoris, NOT Licorice.

[Runty]

Also confirmed, it's not Edy in VC2. Her name is, humorously, Licorice Nelson. So she's definitely a relative of Edy's.

Lycoris, NOT Licorice.

A video on the website spelled her name as "Licorice", I kid you not. I laughed at seeing that name. Here's a link:

http://valkyria2.jp/popup_movie2.html

They sound the same, so I guess you could be right too.

[Snowman24]

Wow...her name is Licorice...sweet deal

[RedShocktrooper]

Wow...her name is Licorice...sweet deal

Well, I've seen odder names. But if we see a guy named "Traktor", I called it.

[HashiriyaR32]

A video on the website spelled her name as "Licorice", I kid you not. I laughed at seeing that name. Here's a link:

http://valkyria2.jp/popup_movie2.html

They sound the same, so I guess you could be right too.

That reminded me of a naming kerfuffle in a different series (SHUFFLE!). One of the characters had a twin named (officially) Lycoris, but due to the usual ambiguity that is romanization, she was rendered Licorice in some fansubs (According to TVTropes, anyway. The ones I saw had all the proper names).

[Neovoid]

I noticed they also refer to the class as "Shocktrooper and Gunner." It looks like the Shocktrooper class will finally get to wield REAL machine guns that fire actual rifle cartridges instead of those shitty 9mm pistol rounds. I guess that would entitle them as Support Gunner or Squad Automatic Weapon User. They seem to be also carrying a ammo backpack, kind of like wielding a deployable MG42, Browning M1919, or a M240 into battle. I also see that they carry a tank on their back when wielding a flamethrower.

I wonder when will they be able wield real Assault Rifles, not the ones that fires 9mm. I also wonder can their weapons be given other attachments other then flamethrowers like a shotgun attachment or a tactical scope similar to the one they put the StG 44.

[Firefly00]

I noticed they also refer to the class as "Shocktrooper and Gunner." It looks like the Shocktrooper class will finally get to wield REAL machine guns that fire actual rifle cartridges instead of those shitty 9mm pistol rounds. I guess that would entitle them as Support Gunner or Squad Automatic Weapon User. They seem to be also carrying a ammo backpack, kind of like wielding a deployable MG42, Browning M1919, or a M240 into battle.

Bonus points if the backpack doubles as an extended magazine, 'Panzer Cop-style' (http://www.actionhq.com/store/images/Kerberos_JinRoh.jpg). If, on the other hand, they're meant to be VC's analogue of RA3 Peacekeepers, they'll need a good shotgun...

I also see that they carry a tank on their back when wielding a flamethrower.

I wonder if one would be able to exploit a certain weakness of such weapons if you encounter their Imperial mirrors...

I wonder when will they be able wield real Assault Rifles, not the ones that fires 9mm. I also wonder can their weapons be given other attachments other then flamethrowers like a shotgun attachment or a tactical scope similar to the one they put the StG 44.

Given how much in terms of mechanics is inherited from the first game, the answers there would be a mix of rewards and upgrades.

[asaqe]

Why are most of the shocktroopers women?

[DC20]

Why are most of the shocktroopers women?

Girls with guns fetish.

[Neovoid]

Bonus points if the backpack doubles as an extended magazine, 'Panzer Cop-style' (http://www.actionhq.com/store/images/Kerberos_JinRoh.jpg). If, on the other hand, they're meant to be VC's analogue of RA3 Peacekeepers, they'll need a good shotgun...

Or at least give us a shotgun attachment on our SMG/Machine Guns for clearing houses without setting it on fire. They got Flamethrower attachments with no backpack fuel tank so why not shotgun? Come to think of it, why the hell did we stop using flamethrowers in modern day conflicts anyway?

[RedShocktrooper]

Or at least give us a shotgun attachment on our SMG/Machine Guns for clearing houses without setting it on fire. They got Flamethrower attachments with no backpack fuel tank so why not shotgun? Come to think of it, why the hell did we stop using flamethrowers in modern day conflicts anyway?

Ethical reasons, and the fact that modern day conflicts take place at too long of a range to use a close range weapon like a flamethrower.

[DC20]

They've also been largely phased out in favor of thermobaric weapons.

[RedShocktrooper]

They've also been largely phased out in favor of thermobaric weapons.

That too. Ethics played a considerable part, though.

Actually, of all countries, I think the US of A still has some Flamethrowers in service.

Back on topic, has there been any updates? Since this thread is basically my info feed on VC2 (beings that I can't read Japanese. I just had to take German in high school), what exactly do we know now, besides Edy's Cousin/Sister/something being named after Twizzlers?

[Runty]

That too. Ethics played a considerable part, though.

Actually, of all countries, I think the US of A still has some Flamethrowers in service.

Back on topic, has there been any updates? Since this thread is basically my info feed on VC2 (beings that I can't read Japanese. I just had to take German in high school), what exactly do we know now, besides Edy's Cousin/Sister/something being named after Twizzlers?

Next update will be on the 10th (which, unfortunately, is the same day as my first exam). Seems to now be weekly until the release of the game. Hopefully we'll get something useful out of it.

Btw, nice Twizzlers reference.:p