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Kempis Curious
2003-11-13, 00:14
Musing on how I had never heard of the wonderful Mahoujin Guru Guru (available for dowload now!), I was wondering what other awesome anime is out there which doesn't get much press?

Do y'all have a favorite that doesn't seem to get mentioned much at all?

Please tell me why you like it.

I'll start off with a few:


Mahou Tsukai Tai - I think this anime is truly a masterpiece. Animation, storyline, characters, music are all excellent. The writing is absolutely stunning... even the timing of facial expressions and gestures tells a funny and touching story. There's so much, that I usually catch something new every time I watch it... rarely does an anime have so much repeat viewing potential.
Orguss 2 - You don't need to see Orguss 1 to like this anime. I think it beats Macross Plus in storyline, writing, and characters, though not music and animation. And Mac Plus is no slouch in those other departments, either. Even the dubbed version of this anime is really good!
The Ping Pong Club - If you think South Park is funny, this anime will make you pee your pants. Adolescent humor at its finest, this anime is hideously filthy and disgusting. And extremely funny. It's even better if you watch it with someone who's uptight. :D




-k

Esperchld
2003-11-13, 00:30
Hell Teacher Nube - horror comedy that takes place in a school. The teacher has a demon hand and uses it to fight demons. Quite Amusing.

boneyjellyfish
2003-11-13, 00:54
Infinite Ryvius - Space action and a fantastic story.

El Hazard: The Wanderers - Good story and it's really funny.

Kempis Curious
2003-11-13, 01:23
Hell Teacher Nube - horror comedy that takes place in a school. The teacher has a demon hand and uses it to fight demons. Quite Amusing.

Wow. Yep, never heard of that one. ^_^

I better start writing these down.


-k

very curious

K_R
2003-11-13, 02:37
Hakaima Sadamitsu

Surprisingly good, but not well known.

Dorfl
2003-11-13, 04:57
Orguss 2 - You don't need to see Orguss 1 to like this anime. I think it beats Macross Plus in storyline, writing, and characters, though not music and animation. And Mac Plus is no slouch in those other departments, either. Even the dubbed version of this anime is really good!


I like that one a lot, it's one of the earliest mecha animes I watched (Transformers doesn't count :p) and I thought it was really really good. Even the dub was relatively good, the characters were fairly likeable, the plot was a bit weak and rushed in some places, but it ended very well. And at only 6 episodes, it shouldn't take long to watch at all. I think there's a site that has it available streaming, but it's licensed, so I can't tell you.

Lambda
2003-11-13, 08:36
Nothing too obscure from me, but I'd rather rave about something brilliant and just not known well enough, rather than something good and completely unknown.

Princess Tutu: Don't be put off by the name! Pretty soon you get a great plot with fascinating themes, brilliant characters, and it's just about the only anime that you could describe as inpeccably choreographed. Best consistent use of classical music ever.

Kodocha: An extremely funny comedy of the "manic" variety that rises above the rest by actually having a really good serious story behind it all, and being able to "slow down" on occasion and get some good emotional moments.

Gunbuster: As a very effective mixture of hard science fiction, melodrama and parody it's inherently extremely interesting, but it's the great characters and incredible direction which really drive it.

Vampire Princess Miyu OVAs: Dark, haunting and beautiful. Very different from the norm, and it's difficult to see how it could be any better.

The Ping Pong Club - If you think South Park is funny, this anime will make you pee your pants. Adolescent humor at its finest, this anime is hideously filthy and disgusting. And extremely funny. It's even better if you watch it with someone who's uptight. :D

Question about the South Park comparison: I love South Park for its mixture of political satire and pythonesque wierdness. How prominent are such things in Ping Pong Club?

ElvenPath
2003-11-13, 09:18
Now and then, here and there: a 13 Ep TV series, real masterpiece. See it for yourselves.

Vulkar
2003-11-13, 10:31
Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoiyo Masaru! This show is one of the most random and humorous I've seen. It's very funny stuff. I reccomend it highly.

Anlushac11
2003-11-13, 15:51
One of my first fansubs was a VHS or Orguss. I watched Orguss 2 streaming on Sputnik 7 and loved it.

Animes I feel didnt get the respect they deserve and are never mentioned?

1) Happy Lesson Advance - I never hear anyone talk about this show

2) Guardian Hearts - I wish this was a 13 ep series. It has a good sense of humor and has some good characters and some tender moments that endear it to me, like Chelsea's birthday episode.

3) Denshin Mamotte Shugogetten - the OVA's are fairly new and noone talks about this.

4) Triangle Hearts - This is too short at only a 3 OVA series but has some very good scenes. I showed to my friend who is a devout GITS and Bubblegum Crisis fan and he loved it.

Kempis Curious
2003-11-13, 16:02
Question about the South Park comparison: I love South Park for its mixture of political satire and pythonesque wierdness. How prominent are such things in Ping Pong Club?

Not much. Actually everybody digs South Park's raunchy humor but it wouldn't be such a hit without its satire and greater messages behind the filth. Ping Pong Club does the filth extremely well, but there's no message. That's probably why few people watch it... in fact a lot of people I've lent it to turn it off after the nasty jokes start. :D No one has said it was boring or stupid, though.

I liked your choices of Princess Tutu and Kodocha, though they do get metioned here and there. They're in the top 5 of all the hundreds of anime I've seen. :love: And since you've mentioned them I'll trust your recommendation for Gunbuster and go look for it.


Denshin Mamotte Shugogetten OVA ...


I downloaded this not remembering its name... I had read a little of the manga, dismissed it as a blatant OMG ripoff, and forgot about it. :(
The OVA was a pleasant surprise. :) One of the best manga2anime conversions and a very good "shy romance" anime. I also wonder why it didn't get much talk.

-k

squonjon
2003-11-13, 18:59
Cosplay Complex: Very few anime have Italian lesbian paedophiles as main characters. Cosplay Complex remedies this.

Alien 9: Just plain brilliant. Less obvious than Narutaru, but equally corrupt. I would have included a picture of Ootani-san at her most terrified but the CD with episode 4 on claims it's blank. This worries me... Anyway, here she is in preparation for said scene: -
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/131103-8.gif

And slightly less obscure...
Galaxy Angel: It has its off days, but when it gets it right is absolutely hilarious.
NieA_7: Lain & Haibane Renmei's ugly sister with a nice personality.

Kid
2003-11-13, 20:57
The Violinist of Hameln TV series. Very underrated. Very few fans seem to have watched this one. It's probably never going to get licensed, so fansubs are the only way to go. The story is dark and controversial and thought-provoking and the artwork is beautiful. Only drawback is... the relative lack of animation. :eyespin:

Dorfl
2003-11-13, 21:27
I've been sorta reading the VoH manga. It was totally hilarious in the beginning, but now it has become darker and more serious, I'm not sure I like it so serious.

Go-lytely
2003-11-13, 22:43
Nothing too obscure from me, but I'd rather rave about something brilliant and just not known well enough, rather than something good and completely unknown.

Princess Tutu: Don't be put off by the name! Pretty soon you get a great plot with fascinating themes, brilliant characters, and it's just about the only anime that you could describe as inpeccably choreographed. Best consistent use of classical music ever.

Kodocha: An extremely funny comedy of the "manic" variety that rises above the rest by actually having a really good serious story behind it all, and being able to "slow down" on occasion and get some good emotional moments.

Gunbuster: As a very effective mixture of hard science fiction, melodrama and parody it's inherently extremely interesting, but it's the great characters and incredible direction which really drive it.

Vampire Princess Miyu OVAs: Dark, haunting and beautiful. Very different from the norm, and it's difficult to see how it could be any better.


Besides Princess Tutu, all the other ones are pretty popular among anime circles. I think because they are sort of getting old now you dont hear much about them anymore.

GipFace
2003-11-14, 01:25
Mao-chan ... oh, the cuteness, the cuteness ...

But um ... Princess Nine is underrated too.

Flash_Squirrel
2003-11-14, 01:40
Alien 9: Just plain brilliant. Less obvious than Narutaru, but equally corrupt. I would have included a picture of Ootani-san at her most terrified but the CD with episode 4 on claims it's blank. This worries me... Anyway, here she is in preparation for said scene: -
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/131103-8.gif


Note: This post will be pretty much textless, only because there is no real way to describe Alien nine without spoiling some story.
thats why I will express my love for this series with an ascii art.
\o/

Shenlong
2003-11-14, 02:18
You're Under Arrest - This is an earlier series by the guy behind Ah! My Goddess and I believe its far superior as well. Its a police comedy-romance and blows any similiar show out of the water. The box sets are pretty cheap right now

Kempis Curious
2003-11-14, 03:29
The Violinist of Hameln TV series. Very underrated. Very few fans seem to have watched this one. ... Only drawback is... the relative lack of animation. :eyespin:

I saw the movie of this a very long time ago, and also got a recent download of it.
It was interesting that I still liked it after not seeing it for 6-7 years... :) great characters, music, and writing. The animation was just fine in the movie... should we go look for the series?


Alien 9: Just plain brilliant. Less obvious than Narutaru, but equally corrupt.
NieA_7: Lain & Haibane Renmei's ugly sister with a nice personality.

Alien 9 corrupt? Are you talking about the nausiating lolicon fanservice or something dark in the storyline?

I never got past ep 6 on NieA_7... the ideas were fun but the crushing sense of desparate poverty brought back too many memories for me. :( NieA herself was a very selfish jerk, too. Did she ever redeem herself later on?

-k

squonjon
2003-11-14, 11:52
Alien 9 corrupt? Are you talking about the nausiating lolicon fanservice or something dark in the storyline?

I couldn't think of a better word. Malign, maybe? I was referring to the characters' "hidden depths" (dont want to give any spoilers).

Lolicon fanservice o_0^? I can only remember three scenes with any nudity, each of which was relevant to the story. Plus, I don't think the story would work without the characters being pre-pubescent (with my interpretation of the symbolism anyway...). Anyway, with my lack of examples, this post is almost completely devoid of content.

So I can only quote Radiohead: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I never got past ep 6 on NieA_7... the ideas were fun but the crushing sense of desparate poverty brought back too many memories for me. NieA herself was a very selfish jerk, too. Did she ever redeem herself later on?
I think episode 7 is the most touching part (Mayuko dealing with the Go-Con). More "important" things happen to NieA too (spoiler avoidance) - she doesn't really change but you do find yourself empathising more. Much of the plot is relatively inconsequential (and very obscure at the end), with more emphasis on atmosphere and character development. I.e. if you don't like the atmosphere, or the characters, maybe it's not for you....

monpuchi
2003-11-14, 13:18
Mao-chan ... oh, the cuteness, the cuteness ...

But um ... Princess Nine is underrated too.


i wouldnt say that mao-chan is underrated. people dont talk about it for a reason. i suppose i should give it a chance but its not a good sign when you cant get past the first 5 episodes without forcing yourself. i just feel so empty after watching it.

Kempis Curious
2003-11-14, 15:40
Hakaima Sadamitsu

Surprisingly good, but not well known.


Yep, I've never heard of that one. :D The description of the plot on the seller's website makes it seem recycled and forgettable. What did you like about it?
Anyone else seen this one?


-k

curious

Kyuven
2003-11-14, 16:03
Saber Marionette J: this series doesn't get the credit it deserves...LIME!!!!
Steel Angel Kurumi: my first real ecchi series (Tenchi Muyo doesn't count for me since i saw the CN version first >_< thank you international channel for broadcasting the unedited version! (i'm not kidding about this!))
Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch: 15 episodes and i STILL haven't figured out why i like this series!!!!
Sorcerer on the Rocks: even though it seems like it's right in the middle of a greater storyline (i think it is actually...) the 3 ovas were REALLY funny, the premise would have made a great series (we're talkin about the creators of Sorcerer Hunters...so of course it'd be good!) had it not been so desipicably cut short >_< the american DVD art didn't relay the true tone of the series
Haunted Junction: it's...just...so...funny, and i never attended a japanese school so i probably don't even get half the jokes
Don't Leave Me Alone Daisy: packaged the same way Haunted Junction was here in the states (NO DUB, just subs, so the 13 episodes cost about 35 bucks at a place where 4 ep discs cost 30) and had a really interesting story...ok it was just plain silly. A missile with a smiley face that the main character rides to school named Mimi for instance.

LuciaMelody
2003-11-14, 16:31
Well, here is one that very little people have seen (even though it is licensed in US)- Gestalt.

People hate it because its er....2 episodes. :D They started making it and then decided to pull it off. There is a whole lot of Manga for these series but it never got translated.

Anyway - the art is so beautiful. The main character - ohri -is just wow! Too bad they didn't make anymore, the second episode was really really good! I showed it to all of my friends without telling them that there are nomore episodes, they were very :upset: lol.

Also, Shamanic Princess - I thought it was trully a masterpiece but noone ever mentions it. Why? :(

Edit: forgot to say that I agree with Mermaid Melody being amazing!! I think I like it because i trully missed Sailor Moon. Its just soo cute and pretty!!! I love Lucia!!

Go-lytely
2003-11-14, 20:29
i wouldnt say that mao-chan is underrated. people dont talk about it for a reason. i suppose i should give it a chance but its not a good sign when you cant get past the first 5 episodes without forcing yourself. i just feel so empty after watching it.

Mao-chan is one of those love-it or hate-it shows. I think that most underrated shows are like that because thats why they dont get the press other shows do.

Radd
2003-11-15, 05:00
I'm really suprised that the Macross franchise isn't more popular. I mean, it's decently popular, but it's not nearly to the level which Gundam has attainted. In Japan I can understand this...but in the USA and other international markets, I would almost expect Macross to be just as, if not more popular. Especially given how popular Robotech was in the 80's (one of the best animated series in the US to come out of the 80's, according to Rolling Stone, I think it was). I think a big part of it is that most of the people in the anime fandom these days have a very short term memory. People consider stuff from 1998 to be old, that's not right. Stil, Macross Plus was incredibly popular for a time, then it fell off the map, and now Macross Zero is out (Next episode the 28th of this month!) and it really is one of the most impressive looking OVAs coming out right now, yet you barely hear people talking about it.

I also think Macross 7 gets a bum rap. It's a great show, some of the best character developement in all of anime, and it has an excellent ending. We all know that there's a lot of great anime with really crappy endings, yet here's this show that keeps getting better and better, and ends beautifully, and no one talks about it, and those that do can't get over the idea that people could stop shooting at each other, or that one person could want to change the world.


Aside from Macross, King of Braves Gao Gai Gar is another show that deserves to be uber popular, and it was in Japan and most of Asia, apparently, as in super, mega popular, as big or bigger than Poke'mon, Sailor Moon, and other shows like that...yet over here in the west? Nothing. We get a ton of incredibly crappy Transformers shows, each worse than the last, yet still somehow remaining really popular with Transformers fans...yet here's this incredibly amazing show in the same genre of anime, and most people over here have never even heard of it.


How about Legend of the Galactic Heroes? I hear people bitch and complain about anime getting more and more shallow, but then there's great shows like this that few people talk about, yet it's one of the most character and plot driven shows, yet just from anime, but in entertainment in general. For those that complain of people only seeing anime as a one trick pony of fan service, magical girls, and giant robots, this show really shows that anime can be much more than that.

How about The Night the Earth Stood Still: Giant Robo? Another classic that was popular for a time then dropped off the map. The DVDs should be coming out soon, so maybe that'll bring some interest back to this 6 part OVA. It's basically the modern 'Tatsujin 28 Go!' (Gigantor), with characters from the creator of that classic (and Tetsujin 28 really is an old anime, the original was in black and white, not to be artsy, but because a long time ago, that's all there was for television).

Quarkboy
2003-11-15, 05:29
Here are some of my favorites that aren't well known (and maybe a few that are)

Boku no Marie: A 3 ep OVA about a geek who builds his very own lady-friend. Excellent, and a little disturbing.

Gundam 0080: What, a gundam show? This is the only one worth watching IMO. By itself a truly powerful war story told through the eyes of a VERY young kid. Popular among gundam freaks, but should be better known outside that circle.

Marmalade Boy: Hard to find good quality digital fansubs (they don't exist for most of the eps), but this might be the show that drove the nail in my anime habit coffin. Funny and sappy, this show DEFINED the anime love-triangle/square/generalized polygon.

Oh, and I second Kodomo no Omocha (Kodocha), Princess Tutu, and Gunbuster...

Kodocha has been described as Marmalade Boy on crack, so obviously I like it,
Princess Tutu has one of the most creative plots in any anime ever, and is just beautiful, and Gunbuster was the project that drove Hideki Anno INSANE.

Kempis Curious
2003-11-15, 15:36
Well, here is one that very little people have seen (even though it is licensed in US)- Gestalt.

Also, Shamanic Princess - I thought it was trully a masterpiece but noone ever mentions it. Why? :(


I'm not a little person but I've seen Gestalt. :D I liked it.

I agree that Shamanic Princess is simply fabu anime. Excellent characters, plot, style, and one of the best musical scores I've ever heard. That anime was very balsy to make it about a magicly transforming girl with big eyes, two ponytails, and a cute sidekick. Not a shoujo anime, that's fer sure. Tiara was both scary and unbelievably sexy at the same time. :love:

I'm really suprised that the Macross franchise isn't more popular.

How about The Night the Earth Stood Still: Giant Robo? Another classic that was popular for a time then dropped off the map.

I'm not surprised about the original Macross not being as loved by a majority of anime fans. The recent thread asking gender and age shows that most of the people on this board were -5 to 3 years old when it was shown on American TV back in 1986. Sheesh, I'm one of the oldest people here and I was only 12 at the time, so the youngun's have to take my word that it was a good anime, or have an interest in historical anime and make an effort to go find it.
I agree that Mac 7 is good anime, though it's not so great if you're not a Macross fan already. (I'm glad you didn't mention the nausiating Mac 2). Macross Zero is suffering the same problem Mac 2 had... nice graphics aren't making up for a boring storyline and dull music. :(

I saw Giant Robo too, and after I got past the retro-graphics I found one HECK of an anime. The twists and turns on the storyline were awesome.

-k

7thMethuselah
2003-11-15, 18:09
Piano and To heart

2 very simple calm series which are ery very enjoyable and you can't stop to watch even not too much happens in them...

seal-team-6
2003-11-17, 01:15
Hmmmm what about Hellsing. It's my favourite action filled/horror anime. Short but good.

Vulkar
2003-11-17, 12:52
I'm not a little person but I've seen Gestalt. :D I liked it.

I'm not surprised about the original Macross not being as loved by a majority of anime fans. The recent thread asking gender and age shows that most of the people on this board were -5 to 3 years old when it was shown on American TV back in 1986. Sheesh, I'm one of the oldest people here and I was only 12 at the time, so the youngun's have to take my word that it was a good anime, or have an interest in historical anime and make an effort to go find it.


I'm a young one, but I was fan of Macross. I have pictures lurking in my house somewhere of me as a five year old with a Robotech tshirt on. Great great stuff.

Of course, I love all those old animes which came to TV back then. G-Force/Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman and Voltron, and Speed Racer. Very cool, yet probably thought of as crappy nowadays. Well, maybe I'm biased, but I feel a certain amount of nostalgia when I see pictures or clips of those shows so I think they're good.

Gaara11
2003-11-17, 13:04
Juuni Kokki I think is underappreciated eventhough it has high marks. For a very VERY good anime such as this, I could only see a number of people that talks about this show. What a shame. :upset:

lordwu
2003-11-17, 13:31
Kokoro Library: Story about Kokoro and her two sisters running a library located far away from city and was inherited from their parents. Very heart-warming series and has a very moving ending. Highly recommended if you don't mind a slow-paced anime.

Tomorrow's Nadja: It's about the adventure that Nadja had with a Traveling Troupe. She's raised in a orphanage but she's actually a noble, which she's not aware of. I like the background setting of 19th century europe and also Nadja is very sweet and caring. Hopefully AC will release more episodes soon. I can't wait.

Kempis Curious
2003-11-17, 18:49
Juuni Kokki I think is underappreciated eventhough it has high marks. For a very VERY good anime such as this, I could only see a number of people that talks about this show. What a shame. :upset:

Yeah, I was really liking this anime, but then it got licensed after only a couple of fansubbed eps. I think at the time there were a couple of other great animes available, so I kinda forgot about it. :(

Kokoro Library: ... Very heart-warming series and has a very moving ending. Highly recommended if you don't mind a slow-paced anime.


Ooo I loved Kokoro Library. That was one of the first entire series that I downloaded... it was the first time I had watched a peacefully paced anime that wasn't boring. It's also one of those animes you daydream about... makes you want to be a librarian, with a job in a beautiful library full of sweet, pretty girls and no customers. :love:

I didn't like Piano as much... it went over the line of too slow. :) Awesome music, though.

-k

Radd
2003-11-17, 20:49
Macross does still have a degree of popularity, thanks to Macross Plus. Macross II probably hurt the franchise more than helped it. It was something for sequel starved Macross fans to pick up, but it wasn't very good. It also doesn't help that the movie has never had a completely uncut release, and is still only legitimately available on VHS.

It also doesn't help that Macross 7's music situation prevented it from ever seeing an international distribution, because it's just too pricey of an investment.

Now with Harmony Gold attempting to block all things Macross so they can milk their Robotech cashcow one last time, we're not likely to see any more legitimate releases until Big West sends an army of lawyers over...and they'll only do that if they think the market is profitable enough.

I suppose it's not that suprising after all, though it's still dissapointing.

Youko Recca
2003-11-18, 01:16
Flame of Recca

Fronzel
2003-11-18, 03:40
Isn't Marmalade Boy getting a R1 release? Or did I make it up? Wait, I'll just go check.


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Yes, it is. Tokyopop has it. So rejoice.



Oh, and I'll say VOTOMS.

Kempis Curious
2004-01-23, 20:37
Looking over my anime files, I remembered this thread and had to evangelize about the first 13 eps of

Tenshi ni Narumon

Good heavens what a wild anime... great music, creepy, fun characters, a touch of sexy, and the most spooky bad guy I've ever seen. Too bad the second season made such a big, stupid change with the Dispel-Silky and Micheal/Sara relationships. Blah....

-k

babbito2k
2004-01-23, 21:25
Tenshi ni Narumon! is my favorite series. I don't get the beef about the second cycle (Muse x Eros is amazing), but it's too obscure to argue about here.

The show I want to rave about is Chou Kuse ni Narisou, an early 90s comedy based on an old Nakayoshi title. This show oozes low-budget charm with LOW visual quality and tacky music. Nagisa, the heroine, is an idol singer with a lousy voice; one episode is all about what a crummy singer she is.

The comedy is over-the-top. Nagisa pretends to be a boy so she can go to a public school, which is full of punks and insane teachers. Momoko, an idol wannabe, performs bizarre setpieces in her never-ending quest for recognition. Every episode casts off in a strange new direction, pulling in lots of references to pop culture and recent history.

The series never was subbed in its entirety (39 eps.). I have 20 fansubbed episodes on tape; the group responsible packed it in before they were finished.

Deralti
2004-01-23, 22:12
The Violinist of Hameln TV series. Very underrated. Very few fans seem to have watched this one. It's probably never going to get licensed, so fansubs are the only way to go. The story is dark and controversial and thought-provoking and the artwork is beautiful. Only drawback is... the relative lack of animation. :eyespin:
Was the first fansub I really liked :). I dunno about the controversial part, except for more fake or extreme christians with their you-know-what in a bunch who'd whine about the show. In the 1st ep I thought It was a hentai(tentacles = you have 20 seconds to convince me to not delete you.)
Its one of those where you have to give it a chance...although I still want flute to die ;). As for princess nutcracker-esque, or whatever it's called... I'll stay neutral on my opinion for that.

lomeando
2004-01-23, 22:36
Glad to see my two favorite shows got mentioned: Hameln no Violin Hiki and Mugen no Ryvius. As well as many other very good shows: Princess Tutu, Sadamitsu (to the guy who wanted more input, the main character yeilds a wooden bouken to a mariachi soundtrack... what's not to love?), Legend of the Galactic Heroes (this could get promoted to my top 5 list if I ever get to see the whole thing), Macross 7, Giant Robo, Alien 9, Tenchi ni Narumon...

But I wouldn't've listed any of these shows as "not getting much press". Of course, with anime gaining popularity as fast as it is, the majority of fans may not have heard of much more than a year old. That's normal. But for example, in just the last year, LoGH has had panels held on it at cons, has warranted some long threads on animeondvd.com about the web page collecting signatures for a US release, and has had several releases by Central Anime (not to count the 40 or so episodes that were available as VHS rips via bittorrent before that). That's a lot more press than a show like, for example, Yume de Aetara had.

But one of the great things about the short attention span most people have is that they tend to forget all the mediocre anime in short order. Nowadays you can't throw a rock without hitting a dull, shallow show (probably being subbed by 6 different groups). But by next year you won't be able to get half of them. And in 20 years maybe one or two will have survived.

This should tell you something about the staying power of any show from the 80's that people are still talking about. It's not like companies woke up one day and decided to turn out crap that appeals to the mass market. That's been going on forever. It makes enough money that occaisionally someone can make some real quality shows that simply don't appeal to the mass market. Hameln did horribly in the ratings... which is why it was stopped at 25 episodes when originally planned for over 100. Last Exile also did particularly bad.

Now, tastes differ, and obviously just because people still remember a show with fondness 20 years later doesn't mean you'll necessarily like it, but it's a good hint that it was at least a quality production.

Flash_Squirrel
2004-01-24, 07:45
Alien 9

Uau, another Alien nine fan!

I counted 4 fans up till now over the forums, it's raising steadly!

TheBigL
2004-01-24, 08:46
I think the most Underrepresented anime is GTO or Great Teacher Onizuka. I think its the BEST anime of all time in my opinion. Its super funny. What can I say Its amazing. But I berly found info about it on the net, not to mantion that most anime site never heard of it :(

If you have time just watch 1 episode, you will not be dissapointed. (Its TV series with 43 episodes - first episode 40 min, others 20)

wao
2004-01-24, 09:08
Stuff stuff stuff... ooh, Tutu's appeared many times in this thread, I liked Tutu too! hehe, it's great.


Last Exile also did particularly bad.
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Wow, that just shows how different their tastes are from the US ones... Last Exile has so many billions of fans and fanboys (note the difference)... That's one over-represented anime if there was one ;)

Like everyoen else, let's throw in Princess Tutu! Now it's been represented somewhat. (But not enough. !)

However, it's the underrepresentation of some shows that attract people to it... and some shows will NEVER be popular even if they're really good, that's just the way they are. They were meant to appeal to only a small amount of people (but appeal very well.)

Slaimus
2004-07-11, 10:05
A lot of these series that have been mentioned seems to be series that cross genres. More specifically, they start out shoujo and end up shounen. They often offend shoujo watchers when the change occurs and never gets the shounen audience in the first place. The people that would get the most out of these series are guys that do watch shoujo, or girls that have seen enough of the shoujo plotlines and welcome a change. More often than not, however, these types of shows sort of end with a triumph of shoujo at the end.

Examples:

Cyberteam in Akihabara
Princess Tutu
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Shamanic Princess
Tenshi ni Narumon

dreamless
2004-07-11, 10:31
Princess Tutu : many people dismissed it as for kids, but in reality it's a masterpiece somewhat reminds me of Sophie's World, and a very daring and unique series.

Hanada Shounen Shi : another series often overlooked because of its art style, the stories are very touching and it has many wonderful stories.

Infinite Ryvius : Very dark and bleak series, it shows the uglier side of human society with a group of kids.

Mobile Battleship Nadesico : it's the epitome of the definitions of anime otaku, 'nuff said.

Kino no Tabi : hands down the deepest anime series ever, it's almost like going through a philosophy lecture.

Kita He ~ Diamond Dust Drop ~ : Very touching and warm series, with very real emotions and daily-life-like plots.

Fighter Volk
2004-07-11, 11:53
Last Exile was wonderful. Gonzo's greatest accomplishment.

Let's see... of course, Now and Then, Here and There - my favorite anime series. Then again, favorite is a rash word because it implies enjoyment. Now and Then is something you experience that changes you. Once you see it, you'll understand what I mean by saying that enjoy may not be the best word to use.

Martian Successor Nadesico - Someone else wrote a little about it above. Old, but great.

Paranoia Agent - Not as much underrated as it is obscure, mainly due to its prelicense by Geneon. Those who've seen it know that it's one of the greatest anime of 2004.

GunGrave - Again, very popular with the small amount of people who've seen it, again due to the prelicense. A Mafia anime. Very very original and highly enjoyable.

jennwenn
2004-07-11, 21:04
Orguss 2 - You don't need to see Orguss 1 to like this anime. I think it beats Macross Plus in storyline, writing, and characters, though not music and animation. And Mac Plus is no slouch in those other departments, either. Even the dubbed version of this anime is really good!
The Ping Pong Club - If you think South Park is funny, this anime will make you pee your pants. Adolescent humor at its finest, this anime is hideously filthy and disgusting. And extremely funny. It's even better if you watch it with someone who's uptight. :D

-k

I totally agree! I usually hate mecha, but Orguss 02 was really good. Giant Robo, which has also been mentioned, is another favorite of mine. And Ping Pong Club is just hilarious. Similar style of humour to Sexy Commando, Colorful, and Ebichu but more perverted and geeky.

I also add:
Heatguy J - Its airing on MTV and its licensed so its hardly under-represented, but this series is just AWESOME. I love the characters, the style, the music. Its a greater sucessor to Bebop than Watanabe's own Samurai Champloo! People should be talking about this more.

Run Melos- A film, fansubbed on VHS back in the day. Satoshi Kon worked on this (not as a director tho). It based on a ancient Greek story about friendship as a man finds himself sentenced to death, with his little sister's wedding just three days away. Really moving, and really well done movie.

EDIT- And I'm another Alien 9 fan. I really want to read the manga. Also a fan of Princess Tutu. One of the greatest shojo series I've ever seen.

Pellissier
2005-12-26, 14:52
I think it has happened to us all.

We happened to watch a particular anime, and got particularly hooked. Beyond its animations, its sound or story plot, beyond those.. it had something that simply outstood. Thus we love it. There hasn't to be a right alchemy. We just feel we love it.
Until there, it could be a common situation. But I'm going to add a second step:

We now go surfing around searching entuxiastic comments, reviews about that piece of gem of an anime and then ... "what the heck" .. we find out it is mostly unknown, or it has way too low rates than we think it should have.
So does have our little gem lost of value now? Of course not, it's our little gem, we don't care about others' opinion.
But.. we feel a bit unhappy, because people don't know / don't understand / don't appreciate this anime as we do.
We love it, but the mass don't and we would like to say them that they are on the wrong side.

So we got straight to the main point.
I'm asking to post your very personal list of "little gems" that you like to share with others. Kind of willing to yell to the world: "This is so good!! You don't have to miss it" :)

I start:

- Hime-Chan no Ribon : I crushed on this series on italian tv 10 years ago, it seemed so girly as a show, but I liked the arts and I kept watching it. Episode after episode, I found a depth I wouldn't have never suspected. Character development was so well done, and I loved all the characters of it. I missed it so much when it finished. In my country it hadn't a feedback (although some classmates of mine - females - loved it as well).
On the net, I see, it hasn't a feedback as well, also because there isn't a decent version around. I'm lucky to still jealously conserve the italian videotapes, which I can see whenever I want to see them.
It's one of the very few anime I rated 10/10 and my very first love (I was 15) speaking of anime. Before I liked them a lot, but not loved as this one :D

I have another couple of titles to mention, but not now. I would see how this develops, and I've already been long enough here.
Oh.. Movies count as well .. your turn ;)

Ialdaboth
2005-12-26, 15:14
Puppet Master Sakon - A series of stories about a young puppeter, Sakon, and his Bunraku doll Ukon. Thanks to Sakon's ventriloquist skills, Ukon acts as if it was a real character, and he has a really bad temper ^^ Together they have to resolve the bloody crimes that take place wherever they go. A major point : This series ooze classical japanese style.

Secret of Cerulean Sand - I expected a Blue water wannabe (with sand instead of water), and the first episodes weren't really captivating, or succesful in realization or in animation. But soon the series acquired its own pace, the characters grow on the spectator and I was really fascinated by the last couple of episodes.

Violinist of Hameln - Worst animation ever. It even beats Lodoss' ^^ but the story, adapted from the manga by Yasuhiro Imagawa, truly shines. In spite of the colored graphics, the mood is dark, tragic, and the anime full of memorable characters (Sizer, one of my favorite anti-heroines of all time, magistrally voiced by Megumi Ogata).

Corn
2005-12-26, 16:09
Good thread.


Berserk -

http://animula.iquebec.com/anime/berserk/berserk04.jpg
I honestly don't get it. Why so few people everywere has seen this. Is it because it is to violent? Is it because it has a manga part there still runs?

To me Berserk is something, totally out of anything. It's something that will tear you apart. It is something that you can't help but be attachecd too. It's not a school comedy nor does it have mechs or screaming ninjas.

But Berserk goes so much beyond anything I have seen before. Gatsu as this.. "thing". This person on the outside which looks like a bad rip off of Conan the barbarian, which you just totally get attached to. Even in its dub, you can't but help loving Berserk.
It's truly a waste that not more people have seen it outside Japan. Even among hardcore anime fans I hear about people who haven't seen it. Yeah it's very violent and brutal, but I don't feel it is just for the sake of it.




Wonderful Days -

http://www.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/video/anime_n_filmz-1120767018_i_5501_full.jpg
I for one love this epic sci-fi flick from South Korea. I love it's small strange attention to details. Somehow it has these slow paced scenes that wake some strange kind of tension. Truly the "silent before the storm". To me it was an larger than life animation. It just makes you want to puke as the rollercoaster ride takes to the action scenes in a visual galore.




Samurai Champloo -

http://www.animegalleries.net/albums/samurai_champloo/mugen/champloo_mugen0010.jpg
Its probably not a secret that many in Europe and USA likes Cowboy Bebop, but to me, Samurai Champloo is equally good. Perhaps not as emotional, but certainly just as fun. Mugen awakes feelings as a crazy protagonist I have never seen before, to such extremes. The mixture between fedual japan and competent hiphop sounds, that are so much more than retarded lyrics you would hear in many of the MTV gangsta songs from G-unit and front man 50 cent. The mixture of Sword fighting and break dance is equally entertaining.
It's funny because if you would sum up the story of samurai champloo, it is truly just about 3 people trying to find food as the travel through japan constantly getting in trouble. even with such a lame premise for a story, it actually works and simpy ties you in. I was horrible entertained during my time. Every time the 3 main character interacted they had funny and meaningful things to say. I seriously feel that is a work of art and I pray that Watanabe(sp?) will make a movie, like he did with Bebop.




Otogi Zoshi -

http://www.animecastle.com/tbimages/21759.md.jpg
I won't lie. Im a fan of action and fedual japan. Sword fighting and martial arts interest me, and it's one of the reasons why I am so much into anime. The asian people were some of the best at this. This is one of the animes that are so much more than a happy kenshin series(not talking about the overly awesome OVAs;) ). The animation is dark and gritty.
It is losely based on japanese mythology which is exciting. Even the legend about Raikouh a warrior from the 12th century who was said to kill tons of Oni and demons, has a place in this. The anime changes drasticaly through the half of the series. Some will like it, and some will not. But I'll seriously recommend it, if just for it's really cool presentation.
Trailer: http://www.otogi-zoshi.com/trailer.html




Wolfs Rain -

http://www.armchairempire.com/images/anime/wolfs-rain/wolfs-rain-vol7-1.JPG
It's no wonder that Japanese video games often feature wolfs(some anticipated up comings for example are Okami(campcom) and Zelda:Twillight Princes(GC). Wolfs have a huge part and symbolic meaning in japanese folklore as well. I think in a certain way, Wolfs Rain tries to honor that. It's a very beautiful anime, with animation and style that almost reminds me of Disney when they were at the top of their game.
To me, as an animal lover it's also a sad anime, because it's about the struggles about innocent animals. It's defintely a series that also has a good messege about humans being cruel to nature and animals, and about our lifestyle destroying many of the earths animal races.




GunGrave -

http://media.g4tv.com/images/imagedb2/334/33431_L.jpg
Based on a rather awful shooter for the PS2 by SEGA, this sci-fi gangster epic is something that really took me by storm. The relationship between Harry and Brandon is like something I have never seen before, in anime or movie. About two friends and their struggles for succes in a crime syndicate. I think everyone who has had good friends they have seperated with because they have had to go different paths in life(school, career, lifestyle etc) will understand. I love this anime. I don't really care about all that hate that has been put on it.




Jin-Roh -

http://www.cyberiacafe.ch/Oshii/JinRoh/large/Jinroh15.jpg
To me, perhaps one of the best Anime movies released in the 90s, this anime is so dark and gloomy that it will make you depressed. Jin-Roh takes a strange look at anime from a political view I think. It has one of the most amazing plot twists/conclusions that I have ever seen. I literly feel off my chair when the movie ended. I just coudlnt belive it. To sum up Jin-Roh in one word: Betrayel. Awesome.

Pellissier
2005-12-27, 10:57
To continue my list, I'd like to mention the following:

NANAKA 6/17

http://img3.anidb.info/pics/anime/10204.jpg

You know, just by its cover this show seems to say: "adults, stay away".
And that's totally wrong because , aside that facade, there's something else. This anime focus a lot on psycological factors such as the problems coming while growing or the difficult of dealing with other peoples when we feel we are different from them.
The main protagonist is Nanaka, an high-schooler 17 yo girl , full of complexions, hated by most of her classmates for her icy attitude. Her only support, is the childood friend Nenji, whom is secretly loved by her.
One day, she has an accident and loses part of her memory. She conserves her memories until she was 6 yo, but she loses all what came after (here comes the "6/17" from the title). It's like she went back of 11 years, mantaining a body of a 17 yo. So you'll see a carefree adolescent behaving like a child, yelling here and there and enjoying a lot while watching an anime "mahou shoujo" show.
But it's incredible how the story creates bonds around this situation. You will soon notice that there's not going to be a hilarious show. You'll learn a lot about the characters, their indepth, and you will discover yourself being caring for them.
And at the end (which could have done better, by the way, since not all of the bonds are solved), you probaly may want to reflect a bit.

WHISPER OF THE HEART

http://garnier.free.fr/animation/msviolon.jpg

Or Mimi wo Sumaseba, if you prefere the japanese title.
A studio Ghibli Movie (1995), by Yoshifumi Kondo, a talented director who died of cancer a few years later.
It's basically the travel of a young girl, Shizuku, to the adult world (Miyazaki did the screenplay, and he loves this subject a lot) and how much her life will change after having met Seiji.
There's a lot of emotional envolvment and you will like the slow pace of the movie very soon, while some lines of the dialogues of the protagonists are very impressive, and mature.
It's undoubtfully one of the sweetest romance I have seen, and definitely my favourite about "not action based" anime movies.
Unfortunately this is not much spreaded, since i.e. Europe is lacking a dvd distro for it (although it should be out this spring in UK), but every person I know whom has seen it doesn't find a word to describe it if not.. "heartwarming masterpiece".

Epi
2005-12-27, 17:59
For me it has to be Magic User's Club (Mahou Tsukai Tai!) - OVA version [ http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=345 ]. I found this gem completely by accident one day and it definately has to be one of the best OVAs that I've ever seen. It's one of those things that I can't even understand why I like it so much. The animation is pretty standard for it's time, the voice acting nothing special and much of the plot and characters are cliched and standard. Yet for some reason when everything was put together I just found it to be an awesome series. Perhaps it's how it was directed (there are a lot of little things about the show that are definately different in a good way) or just the characters which grew on me, but this is one of the my favorite pieces of anime of all time, and something which most people have never even heard of.


Basically most of the other shows I like most people have heard of so I won't bother listing them here.

Nergol
2006-12-24, 18:18
Ever since I saw it on TV when I lived in Japan, I've thought that Steam Detectives was an overlooked little gem. Very atmospheric, really original, with pleasing characters, and innovative use of all-vocal BGM. But nobody else seems to care about it.

I think Wedding Peach gets a bum rap too. People dismiss it as a Sailor Moon clone, which it is, but it has its own appeal with some really likeable characters.

I also absolutely agree about Princess Tutu and Niea_7. Princess Tutu especially - a dreamy, abstract fairy tale that feels like something the Brothers Grimm would have written. Not everybody will be able to wrap their heads around it.

Mahou Tsukai Tai is an excellent series, but I'm not sure one can say it's been overlooked or underrated.

wontaek
2006-12-24, 19:18
I will start with animes people have more or less forgotten

1. Urusei Yatsura: This was a landmark pieve. It gave us the term Harem as we know it in Japanese Anime. It started the trend where before this anime, male voice actors outnumbered females, but after this series, female voice actors started to outnumber male counterparts. So many of streotypical character types were introduced from here as well as so many situation dramas in anime.

2. Touch: Tears unnumbered they shed. Highest TV rating for anime in History. Best modification to original materials in the 2nd movie ( This is the one where Nita utters the famous line ' This is my gift to you ' as he belts Tatsuya's pitch out of the park, leaving Tatsuya to blankly stare at where the ball has disappeared ). The epitome of many character streotypes. The series that really solidified the standard format of childhood fried girl taking care of the boy as if she is his mother/wife. Yet most anime fans don't even know why older anime fans' interest in a female character increases if her family name is Asakura, or why you don't see many female character with name Minami.

3. Megazone 23, part 1 and part 2: Start of OVA and the whole Cyber Idol fantasy. Still one of the best music video scenes ever.

For more modern ones people really don't know much about

1. Figure 17 : I refer you to this link as I can't say things better.
http://anime.jefflawson.net/index.php?tag=figure-17

2. Solty Rei: Most touching story of Father's struggle with losing and finding his daughters. It had many believable hardcore sci-fi elements and fascinating world and side characters as well. It could be humourous when it wanted to, but it was serious as well.

3. Koi Kaze: Start the flame

4. Windaria: A series that was hurt by bad English release.

5. A Charlie Brown Christmas: Not enough people has seen this.

wontaek
2006-12-27, 23:39
I need to add this, here. I really dislikes Kimagure Orange Road Series, but I believe it is very underrated by most people.

Zu Ra
2006-12-27, 23:46
These anime most of you havnt heard of ... why Coz they are underated some due to mature content others due to bad publicity also disintrest shown by fansubbers

* Heat Guy J -----------> Heat Guy J nuff said

* Speed Grapher --------> IMO Best Anime of 05

* GunGrave ------------> Universal SoldierXScarface

* GunxSword -----> better than Demonbane

* Nadesico --------> A prody on Mechas

kingdom_elladrel
2006-12-28, 00:05
I would have to say these ones.

Figure 17 - Well, it's not too underrepresented, but I guess most people would be more interested in the action scenes, which comprise most likely less than 5% of the anime, than the character development and emotional growth of its few main characters.

Kodocha - For sure, this also qualifies. Well, probably because the manga was so much better than the anime, even though I think the anime was pretty good.

Sister Princess - Probably because there's certain anime fans who would rather see loads of fan service when they see one guy and a bunch of girls. This is one of the most family-oriented of anime I've seen, but I guess that repels the majority of Western anime fans.

Kokoro Library - Pretty good anime with pretty good drama that very few people will ever know about. I would say the same thing as I already said about Sister Princess.

Piano - Here's another, ditto just like Sister Princess and Kokoro Library. These are light-hearted dramatic gems that most anime fans would probably go thumbs down once they see light and fluffy and emotion. This one will also be hidden under the carpet.

I can think of a few more but that's it for now.

bluemist
2006-12-28, 05:06
To Heart - Screw the current bishoujo game based anime gems... this one is for keeps. To Heart for me is the best of the genre, and can never, ever be replicated again because of our current demands for fast paced, catchy and exciting bishoujo anime. This one is slow but sure, requires not a brain but a "heart", invokes heartwarming feelings like no other, and... ugh I don't know what else. I have seen 80% of this bishoujo-game genre, but I still come back for this one, so take my word for it... err... I mean "don't" take my word for it. This is purely my opinion. But do try to catch To Heart (RightStuf has it coming February 2007) and see what you're missing.

Skyfall
2006-12-28, 07:37
Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3573)

Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=2169)

^i ended up watching these two by accident. Never had seen any one recommend these, and i was simply browsing the anime list and ended up with Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora - since i was bored and it was only 6eps i thought: what the heck, lets just get on with it. I have to say i was very impressed with the show.

After i watched it i browsed trough the respective thread and saw Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu being mentioned quite a few times. So i went ahead and watched that one as well.

Both these short animes are little gems among the usual stuff. And they sure as hell are not getting enough presentation.

@bluemist - for a slow, heart warming, slice of life anime i would take Lamune over To Heart any day of the week. Not saying I don't like To Heart - just that i liked Lamune better.

-RK-
2006-12-28, 08:18
Prince of Tennis: When I first tell people about this anime the first thing they say is, "What the hell is Prince of Tennis?" Followed immediately by, "How can tennis be fun to watch". Now Im not a fan of tennis either. Dull and bland are two words I would choose to describe it. Very few know of this animes existence. Even on the forums or lets say animemusicvideos.org, another haven for anime lovers, has Prince of Tennis gone unrecognized. The flow of the storyline is masterful and the animation is on par with most anime movies.

Flame of Recca: This is a much older anime and perhaps thats why it doesnt really get the PR that it might have if anime was more popular then. Or maybe the problem was not popularity but no way to easily share it. This anime is wonderful. I dont especially love the first few episodes but without a doubt its one of those animes you can fall in love with if you get through the to say the tenth episode or so.

Chiibi
2006-12-28, 14:28
Flame of Recca: This is a much older anime and perhaps thats why it doesnt really get the PR that it might have if anime was more popular then. Or maybe the problem was not popularity but no way to easily share it. This anime is wonderful. I dont especially love the first few episodes but without a doubt its one of those animes you can fall in love with if you get through the to say the tenth episode or so.

I LUFFS RECCAAAAAA:D

Princess Tutu is the masterpiece of all mahou shoujo, hands-down. It's getting more attention since ADV did brilliantly with the US release but it's still sadly underrated.:(

wontaek
2007-01-07, 03:43
I need to add this

Anne of Green Gable ( a part of World Masterpiece Theater ): The staff includes Isao Takahata (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=773) and Miyazaki Hayao. The first three episode probably has set the record for most lines the voice actor has to say in 20 minute episode. It was very faithful to the original novel and the general atmosphere was just right. I doubt if any live action drama of this novel has captured the essense of the novel as much as this series. The Korean dubbed version was also good as the translators relied more on original English text from the novel instead of Japanese dialogue in the anime itself to write the lines for the voice actors, who did very good job: it helps when your voice actors read the novel themselves.

Skyfall
2007-01-07, 03:56
Erementar Gerad. In my book this is one of my favorite adventure/fantasy/romance series. It kept me fully entertained trough the series, and i was not bored even for a second. I had seen this one recommended only once 0_o ... This one needs much more love.

Arkhan
2007-01-07, 12:36
I need to add this, here. I really dislikes Kimagure Orange Road Series, but I believe it is very underrated by most people.

More than underrated, it has fallen into oblivion, like many other classics. I would add Maison Ikkoku to the ones you've mentioned (Urusei Yatsura and Touch). As you've said, these series are the point of reference for many of the current anime titles.
I encourage those younger anime fans out there to overcome their displeasure with old animation and try to watch some classics.
And I need to add something too, I love Kimagure Orange Road. :p

DanielSong39
2007-01-07, 12:38
I will start with animes people have more or less forgotten
2. Touch: Tears unnumbered they shed. Highest TV rating for anime in History. Best modification to original materials in the 2nd movie ( This is the one where Nita utters the famous line ' This is my gift to you ' as he belts Tatsuya's pitch out of the park, leaving Tatsuya to blankly stare at where the ball has disappeared ). The epitome of many character streotypes. The series that really solidified the standard format of childhood fried girl taking care of the boy as if she is his mother/wife. Yet most anime fans don't even know why older anime fans' interest in a female character increases if her family name is Asakura, or why you don't see many female character with name Minami.


As long as we're on the topic of Adachi, let's not forget about Hiatari Ryoko!, Miyuki, and Slow Step. Personally I preferred Hiatari Ryoko for its calm atmosphere, stronger lead characters (Yusaku's determination was particularly impressive), and a story that flows naturally instead of relying on gimmicks. Miyuki was also notable for its portrayal of a strong brother-sister relationship - perhaps the best romance Adachi has developed. Slow Step was notable for its creative humor. Touch may be considered the "masterpiece", but I would argue that Adachi's other works are just as good.

Other under-the-radar shows I liked were the You're under Arrest! OVA's (lightweight humor, but since when was that a bad thing?) and the original To Heart (wonderful atmosphere, music, and character interactions). As for a more recent work, try Glass Mask 2005, an excellent adaptation of one of the all-time classics.

P.S. Say "Asakura" to a recent anime fan and you'll conjure up images of the brown-haired girl with a bell around her neck, her infamous "love me as a woman" line, and the delicious catfight on the roof. Truly a memorable character that many love (and love to hate).

kauldron26
2007-01-07, 13:17
definitely infinite ryvius. i deleted it twice after attempting to watch it. i concluded it was a waste of time and i never got passed episode 5. Then during the last week of school when i was done with finals, and i had to wait for my residents to go home before i closed down the dorm i dl it again and forced myself to watch it past episode 5, and OMFG... that anime is fucking incredible. wow... it was just awe-inspiring. the insight on the depths of humanity was just haunting.

tugatosmk
2007-01-07, 15:30
I will start with animes people have more or less forgotten

1. Urusei Yatsura: This was a landmark pieve. It gave us the term Harem as we know it in Japanese Anime. It started the trend where before this anime, male voice actors outnumbered females, but after this series, female voice actors started to outnumber male counterparts. So many of streotypical character types were introduced from here as well as so many situation dramas in anime.

2. Touch: Tears unnumbered they shed. Highest TV rating for anime in History. Best modification to original materials in the 2nd movie ( This is the one where Nita utters the famous line ' This is my gift to you ' as he belts Tatsuya's pitch out of the park, leaving Tatsuya to blankly stare at where the ball has disappeared ). The epitome of many character streotypes. The series that really solidified the standard format of childhood fried girl taking care of the boy as if she is his mother/wife. Yet most anime fans don't even know why older anime fans' interest in a female character increases if her family name is Asakura, or why you don't see many female character with name Minami.

5. A Charlie Brown Christmas: Not enough people has seen this.


As long as we're on the topic of Adachi, let's not forget about Hiatari Ryoko!, Miyuki, and Slow Step. Personally I preferred Hiatari Ryoko for its calm atmosphere, stronger lead characters (Yusaku's determination was particularly impressive), and a story that flows naturally instead of relying on gimmicks. Miyuki was also notable for its portrayal of a strong brother-sister relationship - perhaps the best romance Adachi has developed. Slow Step was notable for its creative humor. Touch may be considered the "masterpiece", but I would argue that Adachi's other works are just as good.

Other under-the-radar shows I liked were the You're under Arrest! OVA's (lightweight humor, but since when was that a bad thing?) and the original To Heart (wonderful atmosphere, music, and character interactions). As for a more recent work, try Glass Mask 2005, an excellent adaptation of one of the all-time classics.


I need to add this, here. I really dislikes Kimagure Orange Road Series, but I believe it is very underrated by most people.


I would have to say these ones.

Kodocha - For sure, this also qualifies. Well, probably because the manga was so much better than the anime, even though I think the anime was pretty good.


More than underrated, it has fallen into oblivion, like many other classics. I would add Maison Ikkoku to the ones you've mentioned (Urusei Yatsura and Touch). As you've said, these series are the point of reference for many of the current anime titles.
I encourage those younger anime fans out there to overcome their displeasure with old animation and try to watch some classics.
And I need to add something too, I love Kimagure Orange Road. :p

I couldn't agree more with all of you. :D:D

Adding to the list:

Captain Tsubasa 1983 (1st series): it's THE sports series. :D
Miracle Giants Domu-kun
Hime-chan no Ribbon
Kaitou Saint Tail
Idol Densetsu Eriko: Full Moon wo Sagashite is a light-hearted series compared to this classic. :p
Lupin III: Need I say more? ;)
Saint Seiya

On a more recent note, I think Kaleido Star (2003) is a great series that is a bit unpopular.


(I'll add more personal comments later on.)

Ayu-ayu
2007-01-10, 18:49
Nice thread. Let's see...in terms of ones mentioned so far, I'll second these (although I also agree with a number of others mentioned, such as Princess Tutu, just don't think they've been as unrepresented as these):

Hell Teacher Nube: no idea if it's THAT good, but I liked what I saw of it raw once.

Alien Nine: definitely really cool, too bad the anime didn't finish the story due to the magazine being cancelled. The manga later continued in a new 'zine as Alien Nine Emulators. Still, if you liked this series, check out Kotonoha's scanlation of the Milk Closet manga by the same mangaka...it will blow your mind, and has a lot of the same themes.

Shamanic Princess: hells yeah. I got the LDs of this as it was originally released, and I can understand how watching it packaged as one DVD can really lessen the impact of those cliff hangers as well as how the story is told in a cycle, but this is a really fantastic, moody OVA set.

Giant Robo: I don't know about underrepresented, but it's definitely a masterpiece.

Kokoro Library: This was a real treat as I happened to follow the manga from its start in Dengeki Daioh.

0080: Sure, what the hell. I remember many a non-Gundam fan being shocked by this series when it first came out way back when, definitely not the stereotypical mecha anime.

Votoms: I really need to sit and watch more. Its first OVA, along with an Orguss (1) compilation vid were among the first tapes I got copies of back in the eighties, after the Macross movie and Urusei Yatsura. The coffee of Oodou City is bitter...

Nadesico: I don't think the show is really underrepresented, but the movie, Prince of Darkness was pure genius, IMHO, but gets less love from most, it seems.

Megazone 23: Oh yeah... :)

Windaria: Yeah, and don't forget the even more obscure Birth by the same studio that also was only released here as a hack job by Streamline.

And with that I'll segue into my own list of the underrepresented:

To-y: 1987 OVA based on the hit Shounen Sunday manga series about a young indie punk singer who wants to pursue his own career, directed by Naoyuki Onda, a popular animator in the late 80's, early 90's. Seriously good stuff, a fan sub was really popular with the SF Bay Area anime fans back in the day. The OVA is unique in that you never hear the characters actually sing their songs, instead their music is represented with instrumentals and various guest bands. Video game legend Masaya Matsuura and the band Psy's (who also did one of the OPs for City Hunter) did music direction and assembled a wide range of bands for the soundtrack. No DVD exists of this due to licensing issues, and the LD is a highly sought collector's item now.

Toki No Tabibito: The Time Stranger: Another late 80's work, a feature film by legendary director Rintaro with a Doctor Who-esque SF premise. Really amazing art and animation.

Yokohama Shopping Log: I'm surprised no one mentioned this one yet. I know it's popular here on Animesuki, but I doubt the original OVA's had that much exposure really. This is possibly my favorite anime ever.

Majokko Club 4-nin Gumi (think that's the title): a bizarre OVA crossover of four of Studio Pierrot's earliest magical girls, strangely prescient (but well predating) in some ways of Sailor Moon in terms of the handling, bearing a particular resemblence at one point to the Sailor Moon R movie (which shared a screenwriter with it, lol). I recently archived my ancient deteriorating VHS tape of this to DVD, heh, and am going through it for other buried treasures...

The second Galaxy Fraulein Yuna OVA (no thanks to ADV's handling of it--washed out DVD encode and lame subs make me glad I bought the LDs!): it helps to have played the original games, but the second OVA series was directed by Akiyuki Shinbo (and it shows) and in contrast to the goofy first OVA, takes a much darker turn.

KO Century Beast: a good, funny Akahori Satoru anime back in his early days.

Bakuen Campus Guardress: another one!

Goshogun Movie: Etranger : a mid 80's classic. Not a robot battle is in sight as the characters from both sides of a popular hero robot anime gather years later while the heroine is hospitalized and metaphorically deals with the disease that is eating at her in her dreams.

They Were Eleven: an old shoujo manga-based mystery in space...good stuff!

Fight! Iczer-One: Toshiki (then Toshihiro) Hirano's rock'em-sock'em take on the dark hero theme, lots of homages to various classics, but a fine 3-part OVA in its own right, with lovecraftian tentacled aliens, yuri themes, fanservice and lots of action. Not a deep work, more like a study in archetypes, but quite a masterpiece when it came out in the mid-eighties. Fun to contrast with Hirano's later, superior work with his future wife Kakinouchi Narumi on Vampire Princess Miyu.

Idol Project: just good silly fun...

Angel's Egg: Amano+Oshii...what more need be said?

I've got more, but need to dig in my collection and head some more...

Zu Ra
2007-01-10, 19:20
One that went relatively unoticed was Niea Under 7 or Niea 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niea_Under_7) its from the director of Lain also by the manga ka artist .The Manga Ka's works include Serial Experiments Lain (1998) , NieA under 7 (2000) , Haibane Renmei (2002) and Texhnolyze (2003)

This one was normal and when I say this I am a big Lain fan . Niea was fun series which probed deeper into the physce of young girl going to be a woman ala Lain . But the outlook here is diffrent Mayuko Chigasaki is a struggling student ( economically ) with a complex also being an intovert doesnt help . While her freeloading alien roomate is an extrovert who uses humor to hide her fears . Together they discover the joy of growing up and seeing life in a new prespective .

I found Niea under 7 funny charming and surreal at times . IMO way better than lain but didnt share same level of popularity as Lain .

Manga Ka / Creator : Yoshitoshi ABe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitoshi_ABe)

wontaek
2007-01-11, 09:19
Nice thread. Let's see...in terms of ones mentioned so far, I'll second these (although I also agree with a number of others mentioned, such as Princess Tutu, just don't think they've been as unrepresented as these):


Giant Robo: I don't know about underrepresented, but it's definitely a masterpiece.


0080: Sure, what the hell. I remember many a non-Gundam fan being shocked by this series when it first came out way back when, definitely not the stereotypical mecha anime.

Votoms: I really need to sit and watch more. Its first OVA, along with an Orguss (1) compilation vid were among the first tapes I got copies of back in the eighties, after the Macross movie and Urusei Yatsura. The coffee of Oodou City is bitter...


Megazone 23: Oh yeah... :)


They Were Eleven: an old shoujo manga-based mystery in space...good stuff!

.

Giant Robo: Hopefully the new anime series will be good as well

Gundam 0080 : Some liked this series better than 0083.

Megazone 23: Please elaborate

They were Eleven: Doh!! I should have mentioned that one.

Bot1
2007-01-11, 09:38
Kino no Tabi : hands down the deepest anime series ever, it's almost like going through a philosophy lecture.

kino is geat and all but the philosophy really ins't all that deep... its more like going to a 9th grade philosophy class then a lecture.

if i have the add anything then i'll add anything by matsumoto leiji, especially galaxy express 999

hamiko_san
2007-01-11, 14:46
10 things more, you never know.

SeijiSensei
2007-01-13, 14:36
I've appointed myself the representative of the folks on the Saiunkoku Monogatari (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/817.html) thread and nominate this show as perhaps the most underappreciated of those currently being aired. Asatte no Houkou fans might think that show is too-often overlooked, but at least it got a forum of its own here on AS.

Luckily Saiunkoku Monogatari is not being overlooked in Japan. Season Two has been announced starting in April; the current season still has a few episodes to run.

Aoie_Emesai
2007-01-13, 15:14
I vote for Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan. (http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1655,wkxlcl,bokusatsu_tensh.html)

The story is about lame as it get in animes. Character Design, very cute, plenty of fan service. Violence, plenty. I just found that the total randomness of the entire anime series was completely enjoyable to watch, over and over again. It doesn't reach the ioutlandish stupidity of Pani Poni Dash, but overall it was more enjoyable than it.

anselfir
2007-01-15, 17:03
I would consider elfen lied, as hyped as it is, underrated, simply because of the many layers of storytelling that managed to convey a deep emotional message that can only be conveyed by luring the audience into a pretty unconventional perspective. This involved some amazing techniques. Also the show's focus on the human relations rather than the supernatural setting was refreshing in many ways when compared to the seemingly compulsive need for anime to put action and mysticism above character development. The setting is inconsistent, yes, but it didn't matter.

Also this show managed to build consistent momentum throughout, and did not lose steam despite the introduction of various side characters.

Kaijin
2007-01-15, 17:12
Don't know if they are masterpieces (as they are still airing) but I do think they are underrated generally IMHO.

Ghost Hunt
Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto

Ayu-ayu
2007-01-15, 18:36
Megazone 23: Please elaborate

They were Eleven: Doh!! I should have mentioned that one.

Heh, it's easy to miss Eleven somehow, not sure why.


Megazone 23 was, while not the first OVA, was one of the earliest and it came with a who's who list of animators and designers on board. The cyberpunkish themes were in some ways well ahead of their time, with the pre-Matrix simulated reality within the generation ship, the pre-Sharon Apple virtual idol Eve Tokimatsuri (back when the best we could do toward simulating a person in 3D was by faking it a la Max Headroom--which debuted the same year), and a rather surprising complete change of style for the second OVA, switching from Hirano Toshiki to master animator Umetsu Yasoumi on character designs. There's a lot more that could be said about it, but it really needs to be seen and understood for the context of when it was made.

Zu Ra
2007-01-15, 18:59
Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge ~ The WallFlower ~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_Nadeshiko_Shichi_Henge)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2912/wallflowerbi7.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallflowerbi7.jpg)

Last Week one show caught my eye its called Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=36285) aka Wallflower. Its a masterpeice in terms of plot and chracter development . The most orignal story I have seen in a long time and its really funny . Unfortunately its not that popular I dont know why It has all the makings of a great anime . No its not shonen-ai or yaoi just that main charas are bishonen .

DWNLD (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/901.html)

Ryota Hayami
2007-01-15, 19:07
Great Teacher Onizuka and Kare Kano.

Those are really good anime's.

Zu Ra
2007-01-15, 19:15
Great Teacher Onizuka and Kare Kano..

I agree GTO doesnt get it its fair share of limelight its a masterpeice alright . If your a big GTO Fan do check out the Live Action preceding the anime I found that better .

Kare Kano is very very popular lot many people told me to watch it . What you said is true in a way Kare Kano isnt popular His and Her Circumstances is popular irionic :D

Deathkillz
2007-01-15, 20:09
one i have to say is demonbane ~ its starts of as your average mecha but quickly the characters win you over and the plot takes you though an emotional rollercoster of a ride :eyespin: flawless end as well imo *sigh* underrate series is a pain when compared to overrated series >.<

Zu Ra
2007-01-15, 20:26
one i have to say is demonbane ~ its starts of as your average mecha but quickly the characters win you over and the plot takes you though an emotional rollercoster of a ride :eyespin: flawless end as well imo *sigh* >.<

IMHO DemonBane should have been longer I mean full 26 ep . Secondly Cthulhu Mythos and HP Lovercraft explanations should have been more detailed in the anime . It sure has great chracters as you said , right from the OVA Doctor West has permanently been etched in my brain

Its Grossly underated I second that

iindigo
2007-01-17, 15:10
Although it isn't incredibly rare, Vision of Escaflowne (the series, not the half-assed movie) is amazing - it has great art, a great storyline, incredible character development, a beautiful soundtrack, and a near-perfect English dub. It also blends almost every genre of anime out there into itself, but does so in such a graceful manner that it all fits together perfectly. I personally consider it a classic, and it really shocks me to see how small its fanbase is.

If you haven't watched it, you should. You're missing a lot. And if by chance you saw the indescriptably horrible butchering of the series on FOX Kids, erase it from your mind and watch the real thing. The difference between them is huge.

physics223
2007-01-17, 15:27
Ocean Waves was a Ghibli production. It was a quirk in that it was the only realistic slice-of-life film from that studio (at least, AFAIR) ... but it was great. I watched it five times in succession. I avoided watching other anime for about a week or so. It was that powerful, at least for me.

Koi Kaze is another underappreciated anime masterpiece. Yes, it's about incest. So what? Life isn't all about fairy tales and lolis, you know.

I'd say Hiatari Ryoukou was great, but is also underappreciated. I'm starting to like Legend of Galactic Heroes ... :)

Kaoru Chujo
2007-01-17, 15:48
Of course, my favorite anime of all time is Simoun, but I've already hyped it enough on AS, and it seems to finally be getting some love. The same goes for Bokura ga Ita, which people are now discovering as the best shoujo romance anime since KareKano -- and a better show, in my opinion.

But I'd like to draw attention to Uta~Kata. Yes, there is a little fanservice that will put some people off, but it is so well constructed, the atmosphere is so well drawn, the human relations are interesting and moving, and the emotional trajectory is great.

And thanks to the people here who have reminded me to watch Infinite Ryvius, Escaflowne, Touch, Hiatari Ryoukou and others. And I totally agree that Saiunkoku Monogatari is an underrated show.

wontaek
2007-01-17, 22:18
Ocean Waves was a Ghibli production. It was a quirk in that it was the only realistic slice-of-life film from that studio (at least, AFAIR) ... but it was great. I watched it five times in succession. I avoided watching other anime for about a week or so. It was that powerful, at least for me.

Koi Kaze is another underappreciated anime masterpiece. Yes, it's about incest. So what? Life isn't all about fairy tales and lolis, you know.

I'd say Hiatari Ryoukou was great, but is also underappreciated. I'm starting to like Legend of Galactic Heroes ... :)
Agree about Ocean Waves and Koi Kaze. I especially like how Koi Kaze anime turned a C-class( in my opinion ) manga into A-class anime by good control of pacing, good voice acting, and subtle changes in nuance of the dialogue as well as some adjustment to dialogue itself.

I used to be fan of Legend of Galactic Heroes, but I have became less a fan after realizing that this series can be skewed to be a glorification of Nazi and Imperial Japan of World War II. The series is a very good space opera and OVAs had excellent music. Its scenaries were memorable and the Germanic names gave strange weight to the whole series: yet, it is disheartening to know that many Jews shudder at the name, Reinhardt.

DanielSong39
2007-01-18, 01:57
Ocean Waves was a Ghibli production. It was a quirk in that it was the only realistic slice-of-life film from that studio (at least, AFAIR) ... but it was great. I watched it five times in succession. I avoided watching other anime for about a week or so. It was that powerful, at least for me.

Ocean Waves was good but it really pales compares to Omohide Poro Poro (Only Yesterday) and Grave of the Fireflies. They take realism to a whole new level - nothing less that what you would expect from the master, Isao Takahata.

You might also want to try "Heidi" and "Anne of Green Gables", a couple of 70's anime adaptations from the same director. The animation may be dated, but the storytelling still holds up.

jedinat
2007-01-18, 02:54
Last Week one show caught my eye its called Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=36285) aka Wallflower. Its a masterpeice in terms of plot and chracter development . The most orignal story I have seen in a long time and its really funny . Unfortunately its not that popular I dont know why It has all the makings of a great anime . No its not shonen-ai or yaoi just that main charas are bishonen .
It's likely not very popular because it absolutely does not do the manga justice. (I got the same queasy feeling I got while watching the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie :uhoh:) The crappy animation, goofy sound affects/music, and Sunako's seiyuu totally ruined it for me... stopped watching after the 7th ep.

Zu Ra
2007-01-18, 09:00
It's likely not very popular because it absolutely does not do the manga justice. (I got the same queasy feeling I got while watching the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie :uhoh:) .The crappy animation, goofy sound affects/music, and Sunako's seiyuu totally ruined it for me... stopped watching after the 7th ep.

Yeah Hitchhiker guide to Galaxy was the worst interpartion of book actually makes you wonder how could they have screwed it up so bad . The interpretation and art is indeed tacky , looks like an anime from 80s rather than 06-07 . They have not even bothered to use new visuals for the op that goes a long ways to say or highlight the lack of creativity by the studio .

But despite all these flaws it has something unique a excellent story a unique plot and chracterisation . IMHO the story is better than Red Garden Bosou Renkiin Nana Ghost Hunt but it doesnt get the appreciation or the limelight required .

As you said horiible interpretation but its not as bad of an interpretation as HitchHikersGuidetoGalaxy

glyph
2007-01-18, 13:00
I used to be fan of Legend of Galactic Heroes, but I have became less a fan after realizing that this series can be skewed to be a glorification of Nazi and Imperial Japan of World War II. The series is a very good space opera and OVAs had excellent music. Its scenaries were memorable and the Germanic names gave strange weight to the whole series: yet, it is disheartening to know that many Jews shudder at the name, Reinhardt.

I don't think Yoshiki Tanaka is particularly glorifying imperialism or Nazi doctrine in his work. Both the excesses and advantages of democracy and 'enlightened' despotism are shown, but at the end of the day, democracy painted in the better light despite all its faults, because there is at least hope of it being sustainable and self correcting in the long term, without all the bloody business of "seizing the universe".

Reinhardt is a common German name, and is not some reference to antisemitism. :eyebrow:

wontaek
2007-01-18, 16:33
I don't think Yoshiki Tanaka is particularly glorifying imperialism or Nazi doctrine in his work. Both the excesses and advantages of democracy and 'enlightened' despotism are shown, but at the end of the day, democracy painted in the better light despite all its faults, because there is at least hope of it being sustainable and self correcting in the long term, without all the bloody business of "seizing the universe".

Reinhardt is a common German name, and is not some reference to antisemitism. :eyebrow:

First, I think most of glorification and splendors in the book arise naturally from the basic premesis of rise of benevolent dictator and how democracy might fail. However, I still remember the shock on my friend's face when I mentioned the name Reinhardt while describing the book to him. He already was somewhat pissed at the book showing how good a dictator can be, but when he heard the name Reinhardt, he immediately connected with the story of first Emperor, Rudolf's extermination of inferior genes and the infamous 'operation Reinhardt ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Reinhardt )'.

Secondly, I believe LoGH's first OVA may have had profound effect in Japanese manga/anime industry. Believe it or not, LoGH raised the standard of beautiful looking male to a new level, as well as making more fans be concerned about large scale tactic and strategy. I remember another friend's sister be attracted to anime just because Reinhardt looked so 'unearthly beautiful'. Its musical impact is serious as well, for this OVA was unique that I believe Japanese animator contracted a German orchestra, Stuttgard Philharmonic I think, to use their music for this OVA. It made some lesser known work like Nielsen's 4th symphony known. Even the latest Nodame Cantabile manga chapter mentions Nielsen's 4th symphony 'Inextinguishable', which was written as composer's response to the tragedies of World War I. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._4_%28Nielsen%29 )

Third, This series created new stereotypes, mainly that of Reinhardt and Yan Wenley. Reinhardt made cool, harsh, yet ultimately benevolent genius popular again ( the original was the Purple Rose Dud from the 'Glass Mask', but he didn't have that far reaching powers later characters demonstrated ). Yan Wenley was epitome of lazy genius extremely good at one very hard thing, and only in things directly related to that primary thing. A good follower of Yan Wenley model would be the captain Yurikain 'Martian Successor Nadesico'

Fourth, in end, the real model for Reinhardt may be Cao Cao, and for Yan, Zhuge Liang, both from Romance of Three Kingdoms. Cao Cao, in real history, really did make many meaningful reforms that benefitted the commoners; he may have been very nasty to the upper class, but he was good towards the lower class people.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_cao ) Zhuge Liang may have been the smartest, but like Yan, he is no warrior. If more substance can be found for this connection, score another point for the comment 'Everything is Chinese'. ( by the way, I am a Korean, not Chinese )

Ayu-ayu
2007-01-23, 16:35
Ah, Simoun, yeah, I'm really enjoying that one so far. Need to finish it at some point, same for Uta-Kata.

Two more I want to add: Please Save My Earth (especially the "lost" "seventh" episode!) and Munto. :)

Chiibi
2007-01-27, 22:10
The second Galaxy Fraulein Yuna OVA (no thanks to ADV's handling of it--washed out DVD encode and lame subs make me glad I bought the LDs!): it helps to have played the original games, but the second OVA series was directed by Akiyuki Shinbo (and it shows) and in contrast to the goofy first OVA, takes a much darker turn.

My dear Marie/Boku no Marie - Probably my favorite anime/OAV of all time too.It's short(3 eps) bittersweet(leaves you craving for more but then you realize it was fun while it lasted)it has a charm to it, i fell in love instantly.One of the best OAVs from the 90s!

:twitch: sdlkfjlerkjgtorejlkds OHMIFGAWD!! I LOVE THOSE OVAS!! I HAVE THEM BOTH ON TAPE!! You guyz are getting reps!!!:D

*edit*

Nightwalker is SEVERELY underrated! >=( It's my fave vampire anime. <3
Petite Princess Yucie is underrated too....
The Kodocha anime is indeed underrated outside the fansub cults from the 90s:heh:
Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne is ridiculously underrated, considering it is a mahou shoujo series with an incredibily strong, capable, SMART heroine and the most unpredictable plot twist EVER. Not Princess Tutu but still damn good.
Devil Hunter Youko is very underrated.

Bloodseeker
2007-01-31, 07:48
Despite having aired on Anime Unleashed, Boogiepop Phantom is still pretty under-represented. (probably in no small part to the dumb name) Take Paranoia Agent, take away the corny alternate world battles, the ridiculous explanation on what happened, add in even more psycho stuff, keep some equally likable leads, give a different reason for the psycho events, make it darker, and you have Boogiepop Phantom. Go watch it if you haven't already.

smeg4brainsuk
2007-01-31, 11:12
Jin Roh - One of animes great masterpieces that has being overshadowed by bigger name franchises (especially Production I.G.'s very own GitS series). This is the anime i use to convert people who dont watch anime/think its childish. Beatuiful animation and music, brilliant characters, great voice acting (both japanese and english) and a fantastic story.

Orguss 02 - It was this OVA and Ghost in the Shell that got me into anime many, many, many years back. It beats the Macross series hands down and can stand tall alongside Macross Plus/Zero quite proudly. Though its age shows it still has great characters, story and battles.

The Slayers - Im not sure how big it is in japan/USA but in europe we only just managed to get a release of the films and some of the OVA's (none of the series though). Im a huge fan of Lina Inverse and her crew of madmen and think the story and characters are just god damn brilliant. Never a dull moment and it will have you crying in pain from the laughter. I still live in hope that this will be restored in a similar way to BubbleGum Crisis

Chiibi
2007-01-31, 15:55
Jin RohThe Slayers - Im not sure how big it is in japan/USA but in europe we only just managed to get a release of the films and some of the OVA's (none of the series though). Im a huge fan of Lina Inverse and her crew of madmen and think the story and characters are just god damn brilliant. Never a dull moment and it will have you crying in pain from the laughter. I still live in hope that this will be restored in a similar way to BubbleGum Crisis

It's big here in the US. Aw that is a shame...the TV series is more enjoyable than the movies and ovas, imho.

smeg4brainsuk
2007-01-31, 16:04
It's big here in the US. Aw that is a shame...the TV series is more enjoyable than the movies and ovas, imho.

Yeah the 3 series (especially NEXT) are brilliant, annoying thing is that i have spent a fair bit of cash importing the series boxsets from america because over the years they have gotten scratched and lost as they shuffle around many of my friends who have also fallen in love with them too.

I also love the Slayer novels, but tokyopop seemed to cancel translating them after book 6 for some annoying reason :/

Ah well at least its nice to hear that things like Slayers and Jin Roh are quite big somewhere ^^

Theowne
2007-01-31, 16:08
Ocean Waves was a Ghibli production. It was a quirk in that it was the only realistic slice-of-life film from that studio (at least, AFAIR) ... but it was great. I watched it five times in succession. I avoided watching other anime for about a week or so. It was that powerful, at least for me.

I sent you a PM, but for the benefit of others reading this, Studio Ghibli actually produced a few more character-driven, realistic, slice-of-life anime. This would be a good thread for me to evangelize these great films:

Whisper of the Heart (Japanese title: If You Listen Closely) (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/mimi/)
Only Yesterday (Japanese title: Memories Like Falling Teardrops) (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/opp/)
Ocean Waves (Japanese title: I Can Hear The Sea) (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/umi/)

These are really great films that I think every one should see, especially the first one. At first glance the storylines may seem to be nothing special, but it's really something you have to see. These Ghibli films are sometimes overshadowed by the more fantastical (and still brilliant) Ghibli stuff like Spirited Away or Princess Mononoke.

Mueti
2007-01-31, 16:18
I absolutely second Whisper of the Heart.
The best film Ghibli made if you ask me. A must-see!

smeg4brainsuk
2007-02-01, 07:34
Speaking of Slayers and wanting more...

Clicky Here (http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/janxxxx.htm) (press ctrl+f and type slayers to find it faster)

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY \o/

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-02-01, 14:33
Speaking of Slayers and wanting more...

Clicky Here (http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/janxxxx.htm) (press ctrl+f and type slayers to find it faster)

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY \o/

omg, for reals...

1-27-07 (7:52PM EST)---- New Slayers Movie To Become DVD BOX Exclusive
According to the March issue of Dragon Magazine, buyers of all 3 Japanese R2 Slayers TV series DVD-BOX sets will get a disc containing a completely new Slayers feature with theatrical quality animation. The story will focus on a love romance in the southern islands between Lina and Gourry. Megumi Hayashibara's song 'MEET AGAIN' will be the theme.

LionsMane
2007-02-02, 21:56
Ocean Waves was a Ghibli production. It was a quirk in that it was the only realistic slice-of-life film from that studio (at least, AFAIR) ... but it was great. I watched it five times in succession. I avoided watching other anime for about a week or so. It was that powerful, at least for me.

Koi Kaze is another underappreciated anime masterpiece. Yes, it's about incest. So what? Life isn't all about fairy tales and lolis, you know.

I'd say Hiatari Ryoukou was great, but is also underappreciated. I'm starting to like Legend of Galactic Heroes ... :)

I must agree with you on Ocean Waves. One of my favorite movies--one which I often think gets looked over when one thinks of a Ghibli productions. I also think Only Yesterday is underappreciated as well. I always found comfort in the story.

I also have to agree with all who have said Simoun because I honestly think the series deserves a lot more love.

Another series that I feel gets cut short is Otogi Zoshi which if anything deserves a lot of chance even if just for the first half of the series. I know a lot of people didn't like the second half of the show and I did prefer the first half to second but I still enjoyed the series as a whole.

GuidoHunter_Toki
2007-02-03, 23:44
I don't hear people mention much about Kono minikuku mo Utsukushii Sekai (This ugly yet beautiful world). I thought it was a really good anime.

jedinat
2007-02-03, 23:46
I don't hear people mention much about Kono minikuku mo Utsukushii Sekai (This ugly yet beautiful world). I thought it was a really good anime.
That was a really horrible anime. The characters and their emotions were totally unbelievable. Dropped it halfway.

GuidoHunter_Toki
2007-02-03, 23:49
I know it's not the best thing out there but I thought it was better then people gave it credit for. It's not one of my favorites but I enjoyed watching it and thought it was pretty good. Every has their own opinion though.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-02-04, 03:05
Gotta go with Legend of The Galactic Heroes (The all time champ of under-represented masterpieces). It probably has most to do with its availability, but it has quite possibly the most epic scope of character's, plot, politics, war and history all rolled into one hell of a long ride. The name also might make some people think it's a series about Superheroes or something like Gatchaman possibly deflecting interest away as well.

Skyfall
2007-02-26, 18:57
Fantastic Children most definitely .... just finished it, and i have to say - rarely have i had such a satisfying watch. It has to be the title... i hate to admit, but it was the main thing that kept me away for a good while ... after finally watching ep1, 10 minutes in to the show i knew i am going to hate myself for judging a book by it's cover.

iwubanime
2007-03-19, 18:26
I don't think I'm gonna add much, but I'll put some of these up here to make a better list.


Condor Hero - an action/adventure with some romance thrown in. Granted some of the romance can be kinda silly. I guess this is technically chinese, maybe that's why it isn't talked about much?
Eden's Bowy - an interesting idea. Another fantasty/adventure with a bit of "romance".
Fantastic Children - just finished this myself. Very plot centric, watch at least up to episode 11 or 12 before making a decision. a GREAT sci-fi.
Kodocha - Lots of humor and some drama. Pretty long though :)
Princess Tutu - A wonderful representation of stories, a very different type of "mahou shoujo".
Nanaka 6/17 - Nothing spectacular, but not talked about much. Least not where I visit ;)
Narue no Sekai - I liked this alot because it didn't have all the tangle and mess that most romance series have. No need to worry about love-triangles or harems. Although the story is a little thin :heh:
Super GALS - Very very funny. I've only seen the first season, have yet to watch the second. Comedy with some seriousness thrown in. Pretty episodic, but I don't really notice it.
Uninhabited Survive - A little generic plot, but executed in a very good way.

I've yet to see Inifinite Ryvius, Violinist of Hameln, Petite Princess Yucie, Mahou Tsukai Tai, Kokoro Library (kinda been staying away from this because I'm not into slow series... didn't really like Piano/Someday's Dreamers) or Figure 17 but they are on my list :D :D. Just lots to watch!

I am currently watching Now and Then, Here and There.

Js2756
2007-03-19, 20:25
Condor Hero - an action/adventure with some romance thrown in. Granted some of the romance can be kinda silly. I guess this is technically chinese, maybe that's why it isn't talked about much?

The main reason why Condor Hero isn't talked about much is because the anime adaptation sucks relative to the live action version(s). You have to understand that Jinyong's works are incredibly popular in China and that the old live action versions of the Legend of Condor Heroes and the Return of Condor Heroes (the latter being what the animated version is based on) produced in the early 80s are considered by many Chinese as the best television ever produced (akin to how a lot of Japanese people evangelize about Neon Genesis Evangelion being the best anime ever). Aside from that, the animation of the series is way behind it's time, the entire story was never fully animated, and it never caught on in Japan.

Red Herring
2007-03-20, 03:07
Now and Then, Here and There. I've almost never seen 20th century warfare depicted so honestly in fiction before despite the otherworldly setting. Helliwood and the insane ruler is just about every despot tyrant from last century rolled up into one screwed package.

plenair
2007-03-20, 13:52
whoa, this thread brings back memories of some old anime =)


El Hazard : The Magnifecent World - the first OVA, not the other crap that came out afterwards - One of my favorites, it took forever for this thing to be released on dvd. 13 episodes I think. Lovely art, a good mix of comedy and action, excellent music and very touching ending. I especially liked the "bad guy" in the series.
Please Save My Earth - OVA series - I remember watching when it first released in japan, very nice art, music and intruiging story. Not quite seen enough.
Mahou Tsukai Tai! - Seriously I don't know why it doesn't get more exposure, one of the best romantic comedies (I like them short and not drag on forever heh). Whimsical, beautifully drawn and animated, although you may pity the main character, you learn to appreciate the others and their trials. The best part is the ending of the last episode during the credits, hilarious.
My Dear Marie - OVA - Nice animation and art, a good fast paced short comedy series.
Record of the Lodoss Wars - 13 episodes, I think it was an OVA. Fairly nice art for the time, one of the orignial rpg anime series, You just gotta watch it =)
Infinite Ryvius - tv series, I agree it's under-rated and a must watch. Good story, although I found the art severely lacking, especially the backgrounds. Maybe space stations really will look that boring and unrealistic in the future though. But to me, an eyesore compared to Uchuu no Stellvia, which is a different story, also well worth watching. Infinite Ryvius is a must see though simply because I like dark stories.
Here is Greenwood / Koko wa Greenwood - I don't think many have heard of this one. OVA series, 6 ep i believe. Last 2 are a bit weird or are they the best, I forget. It's a pretty good story, but the most memorable part is when they put on a play that reenacts the climactic scene from Lupin's Castle of Cagliostro (see below)


Marmalade Boy - 72 ep tv series, most crazy love polygon series you will ever see. Art is not for everyone, but the drama, oh the drama. may be overly melodramatic for some. It's rather funny how the americans speak such excellent japanese when yuu goes to the states.
KOR - One of the best love triangle stories of the early 90's, about a boy with telekentic powers and his attempt to capture the tomboyish love of his dreams. Can't stand the art looking at it now, but who can forget jigoro?
Escaflowne - 24 ep? Beautiful art and music, this series creates a mesmerizing world.

Whispers of my Heart - One of the best Ghibli films, really one you've got to see. If you like romance with a bit of fantasy, adventure, whimsicalness and fat tabby cats, definitely one to check out. The only issue I had was w/ the ending, I think they're a bit young to know that lol. I'd say stay away from it's "sequel" The Return of the Cat(?), and definitely not as good as Ghibli's most recent and similar Howl's Moving Castle
Porco Rosso - Right, my all time favorite Ghibli/Miyazaki film. I love flying, I love clouds.. and a clever flying pig? Definitely underrated
Lupin - Castle of Cagliostro - Almost all Lupin films are underrated, but this is one of the best of the bunch. Lupin as usual is funny, clever and a gentleman's thief who always keeps you guessing.

Memories - Magnetic Rose/Stink Bomb/Cannon Fodder - One of my favorite anime of all time, a must see if you haven't. 3 short films in completely different styles. My favorite director koji morimoto directs the best of the bunch, 'magnetic rose'. See this, 'nuf said.
Beyond - probably seen by many, and probably pretty underated in today's all 3d/cs craze. Also directed by koji morimoto. beautifully animated, directed, and poignant story set in the matrix universe
Rojin Z - although I saw this movie a loong time ago, I remember it as being well done, well animated and an overall well told story.
Millennium Actress - You've seen Perfect Blue, you love his cutting style, his camera work and his animation. You've got to see this drama by satoshi kon.


Robot Carnival - I have not been able to get my hands on this. Something I'd really like to see, why is it so hard to get a hold of.
Macross - The original macross series probably no one really knows about anymore unless you're into mecha
Project AKo - not crazy about the art these days, but if you've watched too much old anime, this parody of anime cliches is a must see
Tenchi Muyo - the original of course. Well animated, not a series I'm crazy about but I believe it's underrated

Makoto Shinkai's Voices of a Distant Star, She and Her Cat, The Place Promised in our Early Days, and 5cm are short films (except Early Days) that very few seem to know about. Check them out.

shinn_asagiri
2007-03-25, 01:09
guess ill have to go with the original KANON series made back then in 2002...

it took a remake to get it moving:)

also there's W-Wish and Final Approach, both have good storylines yet not much really saw them:)

iwubanime
2007-03-28, 01:42
guess ill have to go with the original KANON series made back then in 2002...

it took a remake to get it moving:)


hmm, i might have to watch the remake then... i stayed away because i really really really didn't like the 2002 one...

i just didn't get it... and i definately wasn't feeling the romance :/

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-03-28, 13:54
guess ill have to go with the original KANON series made back then in 2002...

it took a remake to get it moving:)


not really, it's definitely not underrepresented

Goofus Maximus
2007-03-29, 11:58
The two I like, but don't seem to have a huge following are:

Bartender - One of the more original concepts in anime.
Angel Heart - A better-done spinoff/sequel of City Hunter

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-03-31, 08:23
<--Dash! Kappei (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigi_la_trottola) - It's like one of the best animes - comedy/ecchi/sports but no one's seen it unless you saw it Italy, Spain, Poland, and other countries in like the 90s I think or in Japan in 80s. there's fans/fansubs in spanish/italian. but peple are totally left out here on this great anime, no english fansubs... yet?

iwubanime
2007-04-01, 01:21
hmm, i doubt every1 will agree with me, but i just finished Mahou Shoujo Tai its a pretty easy watch yet still very enjoyable, the characters all show tremendous growth and it is very fast paced... i just wish i knew what happened to S2 :(

check it out if you like magical girl

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-04-12, 13:52
Akazukin Cha Cha - brilliant anime, awesome comedy and characters though it's magical girl, I guess one of the few magical girl animes that can be liked by just about anyone. The comedy is clean but it's still very funny and sassy (surprisingly smart I suppose). I encourage anyone to check it out who likes comedy or cute animes... (i.e. if you like gakuen alice or kodocha).

Zu Ra
2007-04-13, 09:06
Rec (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=28602) is one of those shows which is not that popular compared to its quality and content . Its a really good story with a strong manga backing . The concept is unique and its well edited it utilizes the short time frame given to it in each episode .

hobbes_fan
2007-04-13, 09:19
Martian Successor Nadesico: Absolutely hilarious, loved the characters and a really of intriguing plot. Shame 2nd season never got done for NO GOOD REASON. (Explain yourself Mr Sato!) One f the few times where the dub is superior to the subbed.

801 TTS airbats: 7 ova's. Not the prettiest thing you'll ever see, but there are some really hilarious characters and scenes. Sgt Sakura the gambling/karaoke addict is quality entertainment. Not a masterpiece but worthy of watching

The irresponsible Captain Tylor: parodied by nadesico (sort of). Some retro character designs, but some real offbeat humour and silliness that make the Soyokaze a riot

Mospeada and Southern Cross Cavalry: most have seen this as part of Robotech but Southern Cross in particular is mangled. The original storyline is better

12 kingdoms: A real epic. A bit tough to get through in the beginning but gets better as it goes on. One of the better fantasy animes out there. The terminology is a bit tough to get used to but it's explained well enough

Bubblegum Crisis 2040: A must for cyber punk fans. If you enjoy GITS you'll probably like this

xxanimefan4_ever
2007-04-13, 16:03
Rec (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=28602) is one of those shows which is not that popular compared to its quality and content . Its a really good story with a strong manga backing . The concept is unique and its well edited it utilizes the short time frame given to it in each episode .

eh I didn't it was that great, some ecchi thrown in there and the romance/characters bleh but it was 9 eps so I guess i cant critcize to much but I think it's gotten enough attention from sheer number of downloads plus youtube

anyhoo thread is called anime "masterpieces"

Skyfall
2007-04-13, 16:18
anyhoo thread is called anime "masterpieces"

Yes, and what one considers a masterpiece is a subjective view, no ? And the title also contains "Underrepresented", which Rec definitely is.

Has been a while since i watched it, but i don't recall it having much of ecchi in it (if at all)... even if it had that alone doesn't make it worse imo.

harukamae
2007-04-13, 22:50
Oh man, I feel so old reading this thread. I second Whispers of the Heart and a lot of the Ghibli mentioned - I ADORED Whispers and I showed it to a lot of family members and friends who don't like anime (including things like Spirited Away) but they really enjoyed it. It seems like it was dubbed under the radar here in the states though.

I also second Super GALS! Very goofy and reminiscent of Clueless, but it's so fun and something light you can watch! I rarely hear abut this one.

One I don't know if anyone remembers is E.Y.E.S. of Mars (can't remember the Japanese title). It is THE reason I started liking anime. I saw it and Tenchi Muyo in Love (also good) on Sci-Fi one time when they used to show anime movies, but unlike the Tenchi movie, I never heard about it again. It's a movie about a polluted, dying Mars and a group of psychic children being raised in a synthetic forrest with the hope of sending them to start a new world on Earth. If you can find it, I HIGHLY reccomend it!

Jazzrat
2007-04-13, 23:43
Hataraki Man

It's pretty popular in Japan, scoring very high viewer's rating (as much as Nana and Death Note). It's one of Noitamina's slice of life series that focus on the working life of the white collar folks in japan.

I don't think of it as an anime masterpiece but it's entertaining as such and did an excellent job in portraying a "slice of life" to the viewers. Even the humor in the anime is done subtly without resorting to the usual manga/anime slapstick humor.

I think the reason why so few people watch this (outside Japan) is because the majority of the anime watcher are college/uni students or younger.

archanfels
2007-04-18, 23:09
I used to be fan of Legend of Galactic Heroes, but I have became less a fan after realizing that this series can be skewed to be a glorification of Nazi and Imperial Japan of World War II. The series is a very good space opera and OVAs had excellent music. Its scenaries were memorable and the Germanic names gave strange weight to the whole series: yet, it is disheartening to know that many Jews shudder at the name, Reinhardt.

No offense but have you finished the whole anime, or read the original novel?

IF the author took a side, he was with the Free Planet Alliance and Democracy.

I'm not a worshiper of the series, but I do believe it's underrated and deserves more attention. Calling it a "Glorification of Nazi and Imperial Japan of WWII" is, uninformed to say the least.


To stay on topic, 2 other series I'd like to mention:

One Piece Regarding its status in the US really. 4Kids butchered it and this masterpiece does not have nearly the attention it deserves outside Japan.

Guyver Talking bout the manga version of this series. As a SciFi and one of the longest running manga series it manages to be Shonen-ish yet quite unique and creative at the same time.

shoggoth80
2007-04-19, 01:14
I'll throw another vote in for Ping Pong Club. That show had my side hurting more often than not. Sure, it's a bunch of trash humor most of the time, stuff a lot of people would find offensive. Oh well... sometimes my sense of humor is pretty crass. I think I can live with that.

Orguss is one that I have heard of, and am interested in... so I'll have to look that up. Same goes for Alien 9.

Dokuro Chan is hilarious, but makes only marginal sense from time to time. The insanely gratuitous violence and gore is what makes this show worth watching. Occasionally silly circumstances , or odd ball side effects (like removing the halo) also add to the overall appeal. Story? There's a story?!

Another anime that I think is very under rated is Dagger of Kamui/Revenge of the Ninja/Kanui no Ken. This is a feature length animated film from around 1985 that deals with conspiracies, hidden treasure, and vengeance. Overall very good for its time, and often overlooked. The animation isn't too bad either. Some parts are a little generic in terms of animation...but that happens. There are some historical snippets here and there as well.

hideFan
2007-09-25, 22:40
What is, in your opinion, the most under-rated anime(s) ever and why?

5. Giniro no Olynsiss - From what I gathered on the net, most people passed this up due to it's generic looking male lead and 'poorly designed' mecha... Well I found this anime to be quite good despite those faults, especially the ending.

4. Sorcerer Hunters TV - So they dont have thier original costumes (IE from the manga). People should get over that. I did. I realize that for it to air on TV in the 90s it had to obide by certain rules, one being that thier outfits were far to risky. Besides, most people who toss it aside for that reason alone havent seen -all- of it. >.>

3. Geisters - Now we all know that Koreans arent the best at making animation, and sure, this wasnt the best example, but seeing people not even bother with it because its not Japanese just pisses me off to no end. I picked up a copy of volume one not long ago, and Im not ashamed what so ever that Im ordering volume two this weekend.

2. Munto (1 and 2) - I'd have to say that Munto did dig its own grave by starting you out smack dab in the middle of the plot line with no introduction to the characters (on the magical side at least), and by having two rather unrelated plots going at once, but the plot is pretty solid and its a rather unique take on things, especially her reaction to meeting King Munto.

1. Cyber City Oedo 808 - This one is not so much as it's under-rated, as it 1. came out at a bad time for it's genre and 2. has gotten lost in the mix of the vhs-dvd cross over. There were few dvds made, but they have long since been out of production. I personally found some VHS of this, and Ive got to say that MadHouse did a wonderful job. Im really surprised that there arent alot of people into this. Sure its cheesey and the plot is a bit rushed but it -is- a 90s OVA... Its bound to be one of the two... It just so happens to be both XD!

Vagrant0
2007-09-26, 00:10
First off, Urusei Yatsura. Sure it's old, but it pretty much defines a genere and still has references to it in newer anime. I would be tempted to say that it should be required viewing for anyone who watches anime simply because it is such a unique and almost groundbreaking series. In addition to that, it has it's moments of pure gold, and even with some of the dated references, can be rather entertaining once you stop watching it in hopes of a progressive storyline. It does to anime what the Simpsons did for western cartoons almost a decade later, it provides an unchanging backdrop where bizzare events and situational humor can be used without lasting effects. It's also a fairly long series, so can be used to cut through the bordom of season breaks and enrich your understanding of where some things began. Everyone knows Ranma 1/2, not many know its predecessor and the basis for several characters. Just don't take it seriously, like other harem style anime's there is no plot development outside new characters being introduced. It does however touch on several aspects of Japanese culture, and offers a few special episodes that are really just out there.

Second, Aria. As a series, Aria is a masterpiece. From the artwork to the storylines, to the whole relaxing feel to the anime, it is about as perfect as you could ever hope for. Sure, it may be a bit too slow paced for some, and may even be a bit girly at times, but once you give it a chance, you won't regret it. Just the scenery alone makes it a work of art. If you ever need help unwinding after a hard day of work, Aria will do it. It's just that damn soothing.

Third, I would probably say Ergo Proxy. It's an anime that isn't well known, and isn't easily understood. There isn't much else to say really, it's just a good plot driven anime with some intelligence.

I'm probably off a bit from others standards, but going off what I remember seeing, these three have stood out as being the most all around enriching.

DazarGaidin
2007-09-26, 07:07
The Third: Girl with the Blue Eye. I didn't even know about this till about a month ago, and it toppled Full Metal Panic as my favorite series. Like FMP, it doesn't just combine multiple genre, it does it well and seamlessly. Amazing animation, action/battle scenes (probably one of the best battle scene i have seen is near the end), well developed characters, character interaction, romance, comedy, drama, villians that are complex/driven by different motives (that shift), deep plot and subplots that tie into a conclusive ending.

DragoonKain3
2007-09-26, 09:21
Just to add something new to the mix...
Noein - Speaking of sci-fi shows, this is THE series to watch. LoGH might be better on the epic/soapy side, but the character development is just top notch, the plot direction unpredictable, and the insight to the depths of humanity (particularly the dark side of love) makes this series a highly recommended series for me.

Upon my rewatching of the series, I think its the best anime of 2006 (sure it first aired 2005, but it was in december). And that's saying something coming from a Haruhi-tard lol.




Certainly agree with a lot of people here.

Ocean Waves - Second best Ghibli film I've seen.

Kiki's Delivery Service - Yes, it's the third best Ghibli film I've seen. XD First one would be Princess Mononoke, but everyone already knows that's great.

Legend of Galactic Heroes - I thought this was getting licensed? Which is a shame I haven't heard about news of it since, since I'd love to own the series in R1.

Escaflowne - Shoujo romance meets Shounen mecha. Terrific execution IMO.

Infinite Ryvius - Less popular than even Nadesico, but certainly better than almost any mecha/sci-fi shows I've seen. And yes, even LoGH.

Princess Tutu - At the beginning you'd think its just another mahou shoujo anime, but as it goes on the plot goes on a different direction. Like Twelve Kingdoms (which most people already know its great, at least where I come from), you have to get into it a few episodes before it sinking in.

Ghost Hunt - And speaking of Twelve Kingdoms, from the same maker, and the characters are no less fantastic.

Boys Be - A non-harem romance geared towards males that's actually serious? Perish the thought!

To Heart - THE anime that got me into bishoujo/eroge adaptions.

Kanon 2002 - A much better tear jerker than Kanon 2006 ever will be. Sure it massacres some of the characters and it has some of the fugliest chara designs, but the way they handled the plot in the last 3-4 episodes is IMO much better than Kanon 2006.

Hataraki Man - Not a masterpiece in terms of plot (it's somewhat ordinary), but the characters are very interesting. So much so that the entire series is very enjoyable to watch, from beginning to end.



Kodocha, Perfect Girl Evolution, Kimagure Orange Road, Touch and Please Save My Earth are all anime I think the manga are far superior on. The anime adaptations, I find, are just above average and not masterpieces at all.

Heck, I think all of Adachi's adaptations are inferior to the manga, mainly because Adachi's humor is lost in the transition between the two mediums. Something about the way he paces, I dunno.

Terrestrial Dream
2007-12-09, 19:39
Now there are some anime that are pretty bad that are have huge popularity and while many great anime do get the fame it deserved I think some great animes are missed out. I think that those anime are need to be noticed, so list all the anime that great and yet are unnoticed many people.
These series I might mention are not really hidden gem, but I think among most of the AS member it's very unknown.

Yusha Series in general especially GaoGaiGar- Truly pinnacle of super robot genre. I really have to say that GaoGaiGar is a must watch and I think for people who watched Gurren Lagann will love GaoGaiGar. Of course other Yusha series were awesome as well and I think more people needs to notice this show.
Cyber Formula OVA (yeah the TV show was pretty good but I thought there were too many unnecessary stuff)
Irresponsible Captain Tylor (I watched this really long time ago but I started watching it again recently and I must say that this is a awesome anime)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-12-10, 02:50
Now there are some anime that are pretty bad that are have huge popularity and while many great anime do get the fame it deserved I think some great animes are missed out. I think that those anime are need to be noticed, so list all the anime that great and yet are unnoticed many people.
These series I might mention are not really hidden gem, but I think among most of the AS member it's very unknown.

Yusha Series in general especially GaoGaiGar- Truly pinnacle of super robot genre. I really have to say that GaoGaiGar is a must watch and I think for people who watched Gurren Lagann will love GaoGaiGar. Of course other Yusha series were awesome as well and I think more people needs to notice this show.
Cyber Formula OVA (yeah the TV show was pretty good but I thought there were too many unnecessary stuff)
Irresponsible Captain Tylor (I watched this really long time ago but I started watching it again recently and I must say that this is a awesome anime)

I remember Tylor. The guy who gets the command of a UPSF (or something) spaceship purely by luck and accident and is sent to fight an empire that turns out to be ruled by a young girl he falls in love with. Although he has absolutely no idea what he's doing so he just spends most of his time hitting on women and let's the mech crew run amok and everybody can't decide whether he's a complete moron with a streak of luck a mile wide or a nutty genius.

Forbin
2007-12-10, 03:03
I loved tylor, except he didn't fall in love with her, he has the hots for the commander.

Zenemis
2007-12-10, 05:08
GaoGaiGar itself is quite niche, and essentially for younger viewers - nothing amazing.

FINAL is a different case, I think, but I'm still unsure whether its the retro-style courage spouting and over-the-top Super Robot-ness which adds the primary entertainment value, or whether it's story is to be taken as-is.

Terrestrial Dream
2007-12-10, 18:10
GaoGaiGar itself is quite niche, and essentially for younger viewers - nothing amazing.

FINAL is a different case, I think, but I'm still unsure whether its the retro-style courage spouting and over-the-top Super Robot-ness which adds the primary entertainment value, or whether it's story is to be taken as-is. For me GoaGaiGar was amazing, I love the show for what it was pure epic super robot show, without all the complexity that is being thrown out by most anime recently and during that time. And come on, how can you say that EI-01 vs GGG crew was not amazing, and the whole battle against the four machine kings was also amazing. And the rest of the series against the primevals were also damn amazing, and the final battle in GaoGaiGar was so freaking epic and I would say that it was more epic then any part in Gurren Lagann.

And well Final was also amazing and to me both are equally awesome. Then again I do see your point saying that GaoGaiGar was for young viewers, as myself watched the show when I was ten and I loved it back then, perhaps love of the show from the past is still within me. So I suppose that could be the reason why I love the show much, but even after I watched the show again I still think that it's the greatest anime.

WanderingKnight
2007-12-10, 19:57
Talking about underrepresented anime series, I'll never understand why most fans never get past the pro-environmentalist shell of Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=602). Regardless of any disagreement with the basic premise, the series is a beautiful piece of artwork, from the stunning character designs and animation, the soundtrack (composed by none other than Yoko Kanno herself), the fact that characters speak like people and not like anime characters... to the point that, in the end, it's not as blatantly hypocritical as most pro-green activists tend to be. Arjuna goes beyond the pro-environmentalism stance, though, and makes you think in more ways than in a simple "Mankind's the root of all evil!". It's a series that always gives me a tearjerk or two in the final episode.

If you want to see a true, honest piece of animation, go catch Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna.

Kempis Curious
2007-12-11, 10:40
Another vote for Irresponsible Captain Tylor. I was not impressed with the first episode of the series, but I later came back to it when I didn't have anything else to watch. I couldn't stop watching it, it was great! :D

Caveat: This was around 10 year ago, when anime was really hard to get. It's possible that starvation made a mediocre anime seem awesome.


-k

curious

HurricaneHige
2007-12-11, 13:06
One Piece in the NA anime market- due to some irresponsible company the popularity of this series can't even match Bleach or Naruto when it comes to popularity in the US market. But in my honest opinion it's definitely way better than both of them (for Bleach- SS arc was better but its completely gone to junk after that arc). Don't get me wrong, the series is still relatively popular compare to the really niche animes, but it's nowhere near the where it deserves to be.

Skyfall
2007-12-11, 13:49
^ We might go around arguing which of the the titles is more popular for whatever reason, but popularity does not equal quality though. Personally, i don't think any of the titles deserve to be mentioned here. (almost insulting to the word "masterpiece" ...never mind "underrepresented":heh:)

HurricaneHige
2007-12-11, 14:59
Hmm...One Piece has an unorthodox artstyle (often times more lackluster than just "special") but the story has been pretty good. I'm not sure if u r not a fan of One Piece or just the "adventure" type anime in general, but in terms of the group adventure, its probably one of the best i've seen. O_o

Isn't not getting the attention it deserves = "underrepresented"? It doesn't have to be a masterpiece to be underrepresented....but nevertheless i think One Piece is indeed a masterpiece for its genre.

Khaos
2007-12-11, 15:50
Some of my personal favorites:
- Dennou Coil (complex and beautiful story in a very unique cyber-SF-setting)
- Noein (another very unique SF-setting, lots of quantum stuff here, great music, too)
- Welcome to the NHK (hilarious tragicomedy, a must see)
- Da Capo (romance series, first season is beautiful beyond words)
- Demonbane (ok, this one is a really plain series, but it's one of the best plain series, I've ever seen, and you need those as well ;) )
- Bokusatsu Tenshi Dukoro-chan (hilarious insane splatter angel comedy with a godly and twisted sense of humour)


If you want to see a true, honest piece of animation, go catch Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna.

Agree, you're absolutely right!!

Skyfall
2007-12-11, 16:08
Hmm...One Piece has an unorthodox artstyle (often times more lackluster than just "special") but the story has been pretty good. I'm not sure if u r not a fan of One Piece or just the "adventure" type anime in general, but in terms of the group adventure, its probably one of the best i've seen. O_o

Isn't not getting the attention it deserves = "underrepresented"? It doesn't have to be a masterpiece to be underrepresented....but nevertheless i think One Piece is indeed a masterpiece for its genre.

Oh, i have nothing against adventure/action or general shounen shows at all. One would be hard pressed to find a genre i don't like. And i have been following the 3 shows (though Bleach is the only one that has preserved up until now), but i would not call neither of them close to the pinnacle said genre can offer. Your mileage might wary of course :)

Personally, first thing i would name in genre would be Erementar Gerad. Scryced can, probably, be also considered a shounen cheeze masterpiece in its own right :) And i believe that neither of those three big titles are lacking in popularity. While One Piece might be less popular than Bleach/Naruto, i don't think it is anywhere close to being underrepresented :)

SeijiSensei
2007-12-11, 20:00
"Masterpiece" is a very difficult title to endow anything with. For one thing, one feature of a "masterpiece" is that it stand the test of time. If we're talking about recent "underrepresented" shows that deserve a wider following, my list would include:
Bartender
Dennou Coil
Mononoke
Oh! Edo Rocket
These shows strike me as ones that people might still be watching a decade from now.

tripperazn
2007-12-11, 21:57
Hmm...One Piece has an unorthodox artstyle (often times more lackluster than just "special") but the story has been pretty good. I'm not sure if u r not a fan of One Piece or just the "adventure" type anime in general, but in terms of the group adventure, its probably one of the best i've seen. O_o

Isn't not getting the attention it deserves = "underrepresented"? It doesn't have to be a masterpiece to be underrepresented....but nevertheless i think One Piece is indeed a masterpiece for its genre.

One Piece is by no means "underrepresented" by any definition of the word. When it has it's own sub-board on the "Currently Airing" board, you really can't pin that description on One Piece. I personally haven't seen One Piece, but shounen titles almost never come close to being called "masterpieces".

One series I haven't seen mentioned is Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu. A lot of people simply dismiss it as a rip-off of Saikano, but the way the familiar premise is developed is significantly different and IMO leaves a more lasting emotional impact. While it's fairly popular in Japan, with a manga and two recent games to it's name, it is largely ignored by the fansub community internationally. Half the posts on it's board are about how underrepresented this series is.

The "fireside dance" is one of the best scenes ever. Pretty much sums up the entire story with it's symbolism.

3:16
2007-12-12, 09:54
Comedy.10 minutes of pure pleasure.I can't really say why,but really,that is such a great anime!

Kempis Curious
2007-12-12, 11:38
I remember watching the first episode of Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu, and then feeling like I wanted to see more of it. Y'all have convinced me to go get the rest... fortunately there are only 6 episodes, and seeders are present. That definitely makes it easier to watch. :D

I had to think about whether I've seen Comedy or not... it took me a while to remember that anime short. 'Twas the dreamy anime about the young girl trying to bribe a local vampire into fighting some mounted English knights. If I remember correctly, "Ave Maria" was playing as BGM the whole time. :eyespin: One thing I certainly remember is that I downloaded it twice, since I had forgotten that I had already watched it. :heh:

Another underrepresented anime masterpiece is Hanada, Shounen no Shi. If you can look past the OP and ED being sung by the Backstreet Boys, you'll find a wonderful anime about life in 1960s Japan... and a boy who can see ghosts. The main character is as sassy, energetic, and happy as Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes... he's one of my favorite characters in anime. The animation quality is really high in this series too.

The last couple of story arcs were really, really good. If you put this anime down due to some dull middle episodes, you should pick it up again for the ending. After many years, the fansubbers recently finished the final episodes.

-k

curious

3:16
2007-12-12, 14:23
I had to think about whether I've seen Comedy or not... it took me a while to remember that anime short. 'Twas the dreamy anime about the young girl trying to bribe a local vampire into fighting some mounted English knights. If I remember correctly, "Ave Maria" was playing as BGM the whole time. :eyespin: One thing I certainly remember is that I downloaded it twice, since I had forgotten that I had already watched it. :heh:

That's exactly the story.But I think that the BGM during the battle against the English knight is "Der Erlkönig",from Franck Schubert.

NoSanninWa
2007-12-12, 23:19
Ah, Comedy. I freakin' love that short. It was the first show I ever saw by Studio 4°C and after that I couldn't get enough of their work.

In case anyone want to see it, it is one of the many items in JR's Big Batch of Everything (http://datorrents.com/download.asp?id=15748&name=%5BJR%5D%20Releases.torrent). That collection of all the anime subbed by the defunct group Jolly-Roger is way too huge, but any decent BitTorrent client like µTorrent (http://www.utorrent.com/) will allow you to download only the video you want to see. Everyone should download Comedy. It is only 10 minutes long, but they are 10 amazing minutes.

Solace
2007-12-13, 07:39
Talking about underrepresented anime series, I'll never understand why most fans never get past the pro-environmentalist shell of Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=602). Regardless of any disagreement with the basic premise, the series is a beautiful piece of artwork, from the stunning character designs and animation, the soundtrack (composed by none other than Yoko Kanno herself), the fact that characters speak like people and not like anime characters... to the point that, in the end, it's not as blatantly hypocritical as most pro-green activists tend to be. Arjuna goes beyond the pro-environmentalism stance, though, and makes you think in more ways than in a simple "Mankind's the root of all evil!". It's a series that always gives me a tearjerk or two in the final episode.

If you want to see a true, honest piece of animation, go catch Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna.

My opinions differ from yours (mine are a bit more negative), but I agree with you. The art and music are amazing, the direction is eye catching. It is certainly not a show everyone is going to like, but it is one you should see if you are in the mood to think. The theme song is hauntingly beautiful.

I also recommend Asatte no Houkou. It's about a girl and a woman, one wishes to be older and one wishes to be younger....and it actually happens. Very slice of life, a bit of comedy and drama, and wonderful every step of the way.

Demongod86
2007-12-15, 00:36
GRENADIER--take Trigun, add in far too much gratuitous fanservice and you have a show that can't take itself seriously (and you shouldn't either). Just sit back, relax, and laugh.

NoSanninWa
2007-12-15, 01:44
I've never been able to figure out if Grenadier is brilliant or moronic. It is however insanely fun in a brilliantly moronic way. One more thing, I'm also not sure if this is a negative or a positive, but it needs to be mentioned: "boobie reloads." Nobody should ever discuss Grenadier without mentioning those two words.

MGBelfyRogue
2007-12-15, 06:17
Second, Aria. As a series, Aria is a masterpiece. From the artwork to the storylines, to the whole relaxing feel to the anime, it is about as perfect as you could ever hope for. Sure, it may be a bit too slow paced for some, and may even be a bit girly at times, but once you give it a chance, you won't regret it. Just the scenery alone makes it a work of art. If you ever need help unwinding after a hard day of work, Aria will do it. It's just that damn soothing.

Yes! Aria is by far the best work of the last few years. Everything about it from storyline to characters to art is perfection.

LionsMane
2007-12-15, 14:20
Talking about underrepresented anime series, I'll never understand why most fans never get past the pro-environmentalist shell of Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=602). Regardless of any disagreement with the basic premise, the series is a beautiful piece of artwork, from the stunning character designs and animation, the soundtrack (composed by none other than Yoko Kanno herself), the fact that characters speak like people and not like anime characters... to the point that, in the end, it's not as blatantly hypocritical as most pro-green activists tend to be. Arjuna goes beyond the pro-environmentalism stance, though, and makes you think in more ways than in a simple "Mankind's the root of all evil!". It's a series that always gives me a tearjerk or two in the final episode.

If you want to see a true, honest piece of animation, go catch Chikyuu Shoujo Arjuna.


I have to agree with everything you said.

Many say Arjuna is too preachy to be enjoyable but I disagree entirely. I love how eveything was dealt and played out. It is personally a favorite of mine. Something that many to push away because of its enviromental message but there is so much more to it than that. There aren't too many series that I find completely original and compelling as Arjuna. Plus it was based of the Bhagavad Gita which is an amazing poem.

Definitely a series that is not appreciated as much as it should be.

zoot
2007-12-15, 18:08
You might also want to try "Heidi" and "Anne of Green Gables", a couple of 70's anime adaptations from the same director. The animation may be dated, but the storytelling still holds up.
I don't know if I'd call Anne a masterpiece (tough word), but it was definitely an interesting show--and the production is better than you'd expect from 1979. It's also the only show I can think of that, in gradual form, followed the character as she grew up, which was neat. You don't notice her growing up day-to-day (episode-to-episode, until near the end, anyway), but she turns from a little kid who asks too many questions to a teenager moving off to school, making you go "when did that happen?" ... a question I suspect every parent has asked.
In my opinion, Takahata's best work--and Ghibli's, and my favorite movie to date--is Tonari no Yamada-kun. Fundamentally believable, relatable slice-of-life (Dad daydreams, too!) balanced with some fun fantasy segments. There's also a lot more humor in this one than most Ghibli shows (all great movies, but few that I'd watch for a laugh).

Koi Kaze is another underappreciated anime masterpiece. Yes, it's about incest. So what? Life isn't all about fairy tales and lolis, you know.


Personally, I didn't care for it as a show, but its serious, believable treatment of its subject matter makes it nearly unique (related (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1296019&postcount=27)).

I seem to remember watching another show around the same time with a similar premise--but without the age gap that Koi Kaze had--but I can't remember the title.

zoot
2007-12-20, 21:51
I seem to remember watching another show around the same time with a similar premise--but without the age gap that Koi Kaze had--but I can't remember the title.
I was thinking of "Boku wa Imouto ni Koi wo Suru", an OAV released about a year after Koi Kaze. I think I unsuspectingly watched these two shows closely to each other ...

GreatTeacherKen
2007-12-22, 16:40
I really love Manabi Straight. I guess it's sort of been overshadowed by other strong shows made in 2007 like Gurren Lagann, darker than black, CLANNAD, etc. but this is honestly my favorite show made this year. The show managed to make me care deeply about the main characters within the short timeframe of 12 episodes and I feel it had a great mix of quirky comedy and more lower-key character drama moments, though episode 4 was a bit more emotionally intense. I also think the show also does a great job of telling a story through visuals. Some of my favorite scenes in the show have no dialogue like in episode 4 where one character's sudden emotional breakdown is portrayed very well through visual distortion (you'll know what I mean if you've watched it) and another great moment occurs in episode 7 when Manabi 'tells' the student council president of another school her vision of the school festival (the imagery in this scene is strangely beautiful).

Seto no hanayome: Possibly the funniest work of fiction I've ever seen. The show's sense of humor does seem to be polarizing for people (some people find it tiresome, while others find it absolutely hysterical) but it worked perfectly for me. It really amazes me how the show can keep the comedy going at a fast pace for 26 episodes, usually I find that shows with similar pacing and style of humor tend to grow tiresome after a while, but not this show. This anime knows how much it can exploit one joke and when to stop, so the comedy essentially evolves along with the cast. The seiyuus also do a great job of acting out the humor as well.

Hidamari sketch: While I don't think the show is a masterpiece, I do like this show a lot. It really creates a nice relaxing atmosphere with some very cute and lovable characters. Not to I like the visual style. It's distinctive, but it doesn't feel like it's gimmicky. I think it really enhances the mood of the show. The surreal imagery during the fever episode really stands out.

Zu Ra
2007-12-26, 12:38
I dont remember if I have mentioned this before

I was about to write a few word on Sakon but Laziness got the better of me . So I will quote my reaction after watching Sakon

I really felt bad today watching the last episode of Sakon … my magical journey into the world of mystery and puppetry has come to an abrupt end . The last episode was really heart wrenching and touching . I can believe we won’t get our fix of Sakon anymore .Though the mystery and who dun it factor was not there in this arc it was volumes in terms of character development . If Sakon had continued he would have possibly gotten a girl friend . Also the relationship between Sakon and Ukon has further developed and insightful …

Though I decided to dwell on the good points of the serial I can’t believe it’s finally over. My knowledge into performing arts was minimal but after this show its been enriched . Now I too can brag a thing or two about Japanese arts thanks to Sakon . This arc was a full circle in terms of understanding Sakon his fears and inhibitions , this arc also felt biographical ….

Summary : http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=937

Download : http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/304.html

Reckoner
2007-12-27, 22:43
I don't think I have seen this anime even mentioned in this thread which goes to show you how little people know about it.

Lain: Serial Experiments is the most underrepresented masterpiece of anime ever. I have yet to see a more intelligent anime than this. This has even been reviewed by college professors.

KholdStare
2007-12-27, 23:35
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is one I will recommend. Of course it was once very popular, but the new generation of anime watchers don't know much about this Ghibli masterpiece, so I would just like to mention it again.

3:16
2007-12-30, 16:19
Well...in France...a lot of people know Nausicaa!I think it's because it came out in cinema just last year...

I just wanted to add an anime I've discovered not even a month ago:Strawberry Panic!That one is my first experience of Shojo-Ai,and God knows how much i like it!!Really,i just love everything,every single characters,every...in that anime!Especially the two members of Spica's council...Kenjou and Kiyasaki...or something like that.

Khaos
2008-02-09, 07:47
A series which really is too less known is The Skull Man.

I don't quite understand, why it is so unknown, because I think it's a really great story, which begins as what seems to be just a mysterious criminal case but becomes greater and stranger with every episode leading to a big conspiracy involving a pharmaceutic company and a mysterious religious cult, strange shapeshifter people, crazy cyborgs, etc...

And last but not least the Soundtrack made by Shiro Sagisu (Evangelion) fits the dark atmosphere perfectly!

Tri-ring
2008-02-09, 08:24
Oh boy I went through the whole thread and none of my favorite were even mentioned even though they are pure gem.
First Master Keaton a scholar at heart, a survival expert through experience and a insurance op as profession he tackles problems with mental strength and not physical strength.
SecondGallery Fake With so much information concerning fine art, it is giving fan sub groups nightmares trying to finish an episode but the storyline and wit is worth watching.
Last Candy Candy I know it is old and I know it is in limbo through the worst courtroom brawl over ownership in history but I think it is a must see since it is a masterpiece in it's own right.

KholdStare
2008-02-09, 12:04
Not a masterpiece, but a very very excellent anime: Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight!

This is an anime that is most similar to Cardcaptor Sakura, because you just like watching it even though you don't know why. It has a mix of comedy and drama, but not too much to make the anime annoying to watch. And with both anime, you just want to re-watch the whole thing after you're done, because you just plain enjoy it.

Deathkillz
2008-02-09, 12:10
Not to mention the misleading trailer that was never explained :rolleyes:

That is one hell of a way to hook a fan into "thinking" :heh:

Darklord_bg
2008-02-11, 01:18
Makai Senki Disgaea!

I suppose people don't pay attention to it because it is a kids' show, but that doesn't mean it cannot be enjoyed by adults as well. It has a great cast of likable characters and a good soundtrack. Also, the humor in it is far funnier that the one in most recent comedy series. I guess the best thing about it is that even though the story isn't very complex, it has this unique atmosphere. After watching the series, I have also recently bought the first game and have been playing it for a while, and I must say it's excellent - like on the level of Final Fantasy.

In any case, it's far from being a masterpiece, but it's a unique end enjoyable series with likable characters and it's a good thing to watch if you have some free time.

qtipbrit
2008-02-11, 03:09
Ah, here we go:
Da Capo: The real start of the popularity of harem visual novel adaptations, the few before it were much weaker or were less popular, (excluding ToHeart, but it didn't begin a movement in the anime industry. Also, here is where I'm allowed to note that Toei's Kanon adaptation failed. Yay!) It's received recognition in Japan, making top anime lists and such, but very few have heard of it outside, partly due to the popularity of Kyoto's series overshadowing it now. (And the fact that Da Capo II was a failure.)

Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora: In my opinion (and of many others), this was one of the most touching series of 2006, even according to many of the anime bloggers swarming the internet, moreso than Kanon 2006. However, very few outside of this small circle have heard of it, much less watched it, which is quite disappointing, since it deserves much more. It has very few weak points, mainly that the animation quality is average, drawing neither criticism nor recognition, and that it's a short series; but its story and presentation are very good, and anyone watching it will feel touched.

5 Centimeters per Second: Absolutely amazing anime movie, and yet it receives little recognition. The animation quality is beyond Kyoto, the story will touch anyone, and its music is great as well. For some reason, it's often overlooked, though it's been presented all over the internet and has been licensed for release in several languages and countries (English this March). It's obvious why Makoto Shinkai has been compared to Miyazaki, but even so, few of Miyazaki's movies could compare to the few Shinkai has brought us.

Ef - A Tale of Memories: It may have been Shaft heading animation that repelled watchers, but I think that were it another studio, the series would not be a true "Masterpiece". It's presentation style is unique, but because of that, the series is much better, straying away from the common romantic drama, and its melodramatic elements are better than any others I've seen.

Rec: This one isn't one I would call a "Masterpiece", though it is underrepresented. It's another short series, though less dramatic and such than Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora, aiming more for a slice-of-life romantic comedy feel with a bit of added realistic drama.

KholdStare
2008-02-11, 03:42
Bleach and Naruto. They rule. Seriously. This isn't sarcasm. I'm not sure why people hate them so much. To me they are masterpieces and two of the best anime I've ever watched.

Echoes
2008-02-11, 03:47
Kaiji.

It's currently airing, and getting way too little attention. It's one of the absolutely best shows currently airing, everything from the characters to the animation is done just right. You people are missing out! If you don't like the art, give it a shot anyway, it might grow on you. Though personally, I think the art rocks, it matches the series dark themes perfectly.

Darklord_bg
2008-02-11, 05:07
Kaiji.

It's currently airing, and getting way too little attention. It's one of the absolutely best shows currently airing, everything from the characters to the animation is done just right. You people are missing out! If you don't like the art, give it a shot anyway, it might grow on you. Though personally, I think the art rocks, it matches the series dark themes perfectly.

Seconded.

This is the only currently airing show that I follow(with the exception of long series like One Piece and D. Gray Man). I gave up no Shana 2 and Gundam a long time ago, but Kaiji is still as good as it ever was.

qtipbrit
2008-02-11, 19:53
Bleach and Naruto. They rule. Seriously. This isn't sarcasm. I'm not sure why people hate them so much. To me they are masterpieces and two of the best anime I've ever watched.
Seconded, though they are often overlooked, especially outside of Japan, they are two of the best series I've ever followed. Every aspect of them is great: excellent animation, a steady and strong plot, and a good amount of drama and romance as well. For all of you who haven't heard of these two series, I highly recommend them, so give them a chance.

Terrestrial Dream
2008-02-11, 20:01
Bleach and Naruto. They rule. Seriously. This isn't sarcasm. I'm not sure why people hate them so much. To me they are masterpieces and two of the best anime I've ever watched.

Seconded, though they are often overlooked, especially outside of Japan, they are two of the best series I've ever followed. Every aspect of them is great: excellent animation, a steady and strong plot, and a good amount of drama and romance as well. For all of you who haven't heard of these two series, I highly recommend them, so give them a chance. You guys are not serious are you? Naruto currently sucks, after the Sasuke rescue arc the show became crappier an crappier until it became utter garbage it is today (yes I even read the manga.). Bleach, beginning very repetitive but Soul Society arc was pretty amazing. Rest on like Naruto utter crap (again I still read the manga, though I do see some hopes in Bleach). And really they are not underrepresented or unappreciated, honestly lots of people like these two shows.

Medousa
2008-02-11, 20:34
ToHeart2: Not sure if it's really known, but I'd to watch it in VOSTA because I cannot find it in VOSTFR ... So I'm quite sure it's not popular, but this show was great. Some people could say it's a really "cheap" anime, with nothing really special, but to me it was great. ^^ I liked the way characters were differents. :3 I think "Toheart2" was better than "Toheart"... (Yeah, the first season was really ... poor quality. XD) The end was not that good, but I appreciate the serie(s?) was ... "*o*" (Yeah, My sentence is weird. :D)

Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito: This one is just one of "The best Underrepresented anime masterpieces" I've watched. Carnelian art, and Yuri ... Did I really need to say more about it? :heh: The story was hard to understand the first time, but when we keep on watching, it become more clean.

Makai Senki Disgaea was a great anime too.

@Terrestrial Dream>> I second you. XD Even if I stop watching Naruto at Ep'62. Too repetitive. For Bleach, I never watched it , and I'll never do. Look like so boring to me... They are not Underrepresented at all! Lot of people like these shows. O_O

NoSanninWa
2008-02-11, 22:41
Baccano! (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1057.html)
I continue to be amazed how many people have not yet seen Baccano. Just last week I found that four of my fellow moderators had never bothered to watch an episode of Baccano. Shocking. Already three of them have now seen and loved the series. It is inevitable that the fourth will soon join our number.

This show is one of the best of 2007, yet many have never heard of it, or else dismissed it as something trivial. One person said he hadn't bothered with it because he doesn't like gangster shows. Needless to say he has recanted such words. Baccano is complicated and contains too many elements to pidgeonhole so easily.

There are quite a few people who fail to understand Baccano, but only a few who don't like it.

qtipbrit
2008-02-11, 23:11
You guys are not serious are you? Naruto currently sucks, after the Sasuke rescue arc the show became crappier an crappier until it became utter garbage it is today (yes I even read the manga.). Bleach, beginning very repetitive but Soul Society arc was pretty amazing. Rest on like Naruto utter crap (again I still read the manga, though I do see some hopes in Bleach). And really they are not underrepresented or unappreciated, honestly lots of people like these two shows.
Haha, though I must say that it's harder to express it over the internet, it was some of the most blatant sarcasm I've ever done. There's a reason he chose the two most overplayed and overpopular animes outside of Japan. (Of course, neither of these series really gets as much recognition within Japan, I faintly recall both Bleach and Naruto Shippuuden taking relatively low slots when the Japanese voted for the best anime series of 2007 [though it was a highly controversial list]). Were we to choose another two series, it wouldn't have been nearly as funny, as now two series are as popular and as bad as the said pair. And the fact that the three strong points I stated were "excellent animation, a steady and strong plot, and a good amount of drama and romance" should have been a complete giveaway, as neither of the series has any of these.
Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito: This one is just one of "The best Underrepresented anime masterpieces" I've watched. Carnelian art, and Yuri ... Did I really need to say more about it? :heh: The story was hard to understand the first time, but when we keep on watching, it become more clean.
<3 Mamiko Noto as Hatsuki. I agree, this is one of the better visual novel adaptations (as very few visual novel adaptations make for decent anime series.) I think the fact that it was hard to follow, requiring probably at least two or three episodes to really understand the situation, was what made it unpopular, I believe some fansubs have added additional helpful plot points to aid the viewers, though.
Baccano! (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1057.html)

Ah, I've heard so much of Baccano! that I was slated to watch it not a week ago, however, I've been a bit busy, and so I wasn't able to. I believe this is in the same class as Dennou Coil and Seirei no Moribito as the most overlooked series during 2007.

Irenicus
2008-02-12, 00:40
Ah, I've heard so much of Baccano! that I was slated to watch it not a week ago, however, I've been a bit busy, and so I wasn't able to. I believe this is in the same class as Dennou Coil and Seirei no Moribito as the most overlooked series during 2007.
All three are also very different from each other though, and yet everyone here who like one of them seem to enjoy all other. A most curious phenomenon. A pulp-action short series that feels more like a long and well-done action movie, a slice-of-life-ish (emphasis on "ish") show with unique modern+futuristic concept of the Internet that gets dramatic later on, and a fantasy epic in the best "Twelve Kingdoms" tradition...

Quality? Or is it me trying to justify my tastes? :p

Also, as not to be an annoying poster who doesn't ever contribute, two series for today:

Akage no Anne: It was a Ghibli show before there was Ghibli. It's based on a great children's novel and consequently an almost automatic pass in character development quality over 95% of anime. It has that most amazing atmosphere of relaxation that the best slice-of-life shows want to have; despite it being a Japanese production, the portrayal of rural Canadian life will awe you with the sheer accuracy of it; and finally it has the best young female lead in the history of everything, Anne Shirley, emphasis on the "e" if you don't mind, it's more romantic that way.

She's like a young prototypical Haruhi Suzumiya without the post-modernism or the negative otaku taint, and that's coming from the latter show's greatest fan ever.

Also, watch it to understand the references to "Ah, Marilla" and "Ah, Diana" that occasionally pops up in later works. :)

Saiunkoku Monogatari: Also with an interesting female lead. People compare this to Twelve Kingdoms and for good reason: a strong female lead, a Chinese fantasy setting, a bishounen loyal male companion, a realm with a very specific kind of organization (in Saiunkoku it's the ruling clans matching the sages and the provinces; in Twelve Kingdoms, well, read the name). This might make it seem like a copycat, but far from it. The show has a very different tone, more comedic, more "reverse" harem-ish (Emperor, Prince and Close Confidant, Childhood Friend (insignificant), Hot Villain, Eccentric Genius, Close Friend, and counting...) brighter color palette, and the main character is much less serious.

That doesn't stop it from being a great, great show headed by a great character. The funniest thing about the show to me is the hear "Viral" voicing a civil servant though. I confused him with his general friend for a long time because he totally sounded like a warrior. :heh:

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-02-12, 01:14
Seirei no Moribito needs WAY more attention than it gets. It is a fantastic show with some of the most beautiful animation I've seen for a long time. I am also compelled by the main characters, and the simple yet potentially deep storyline that has a lot to expand on. I just start watching it, but I don't think it gets nearly as much attention as it should, because it's a freaking awesome anime.

midori7
2008-02-12, 01:16
welcome to the nhk!!!!!!!!!!!!

KholdStare
2008-02-12, 01:27
You guys are not serious are you? Naruto currently sucks, after the Sasuke rescue arc the show became crappier an crappier until it became utter garbage it is today (yes I even read the manga.). Bleach, beginning very repetitive but Soul Society arc was pretty amazing. Rest on like Naruto utter crap (again I still read the manga, though I do see some hopes in Bleach). And really they are not underrepresented or unappreciated, honestly lots of people like these two shows.

That's the problem. They currently suck so much that no one remembers when they used to not suck. I do, and I loved Naruto 1-135 and Bleach 1-63. In general, Naruto and Bleach are underrated in this community.

Darklord_bg
2008-02-12, 01:46
That's the problem. They currently suck so much that no one remembers when they used to not suck. I do, and I loved Naruto 1-135 and Bleach 1-63. In general, Naruto and Bleach are underrated in this community.

I agree with you!

Although, I think Naruto started to go bad around episode 100. The Sasuke rescue arc was horribly stretched out in the anime compared to the manga, even though it featured some of the best fighting scenes in the series. Some people would say it started declining much earlier and others would probably say it never was any good.

Nevertheless, despite their negative treatment by a lot of forum members at animesuki, I don't think they have a place in this thread. They are still very popular shows especially among anime noobs who haven't watched many series. They have their own huge boards on animesuki as well. No way they are underrepresented!

Ermes Marana
2008-02-12, 01:56
Irresponsible Captain Tylor: What can I say, I love this anime.


Detective Conan: People seem to be put off by so many episodes, most of which do not advance the main storyline. I can understand that. But even though some episodes could be considered skippable, there are lots of great ones. And the main storyline episodes are always awesome. If you've seen the early episodes but gave up on the show before episodes 128 and 129 I suggest watching those.

KholdStare
2008-02-12, 02:09
Another anime that I think is underrepresented is Love Hina. I get all this crap about how the manga is way better than the anime, but from the viewpoint of someone who only watch anime, it's a very good one. Sure I agree that if you read the manga first, then its adaptation might not live up to your expectations, but for others that wasn't spoiled by the leet Love Hina manga, it's not excruciating bad like many have exaggerated.

cicido
2008-02-12, 02:47
Detective Conan: People seem to be put off by so many episodes, most of which do not advance the main storyline. I can understand that. But even though some episodes could be considered skippable, there are lots of great ones. And the main storyline episodes are always awesome. If you've seen the early episodes but gave up on the show before episodes 128 and 129 I suggest watching those.

Quoted for the truth.
Although half of the reason that I'm still interested in conan, is my angel Haibara Ai.


Honey & Clover

Now don't get me wrong here, I know that this series is very popular in Japan with its incredible amount of mangas sold and two live-action adaptions.(Apparently Taiwan is having a live-action drama based on hachikuro too, but the casts are dog ugly.)
But I'm just un-satisfied by the fact that it is so unknown in north america. I mean, if you go to a anime convection, most people there would know Ouran Host club, but how much would know hachikuro?

tripperazn
2008-02-12, 02:49
Another anime that I think is underrepresented is Love Hina. I get all this crap about how the manga is way better than the anime, but from the viewpoint of someone who only watch anime, it's a very good one. Sure I agree that if you read the manga first, then its adaptation might not live up to your expectations, but for others that wasn't spoiled by the leet Love Hina manga, it's not excruciating bad like many have exaggerated.

You might have a valid point there. I'll never know since I read the manga, which in my mind, absolutely destroyed the anime.

However, it's not really the point of the thread to talk about anime that is popular, but not well liked. It's actually the opposite. Everyone watched Love Hina and most didn't like it. It's the same with Bleach and Naruto. You'd be hard-pressed to find ONE person on this site who hasn't seen at least some of each.

mechalord
2008-02-13, 09:52
Let's see. . . the stuff popular and somewhat popular back in the day before widescale internet use, broadband, mpeg, youtube, and the extremely easy distribution of anime.

Back in the day anime wasn't so easy to come by or so easily distributed.

Martian Sucsessor Nadesico has a format that is similar to some mecha anime today. It's like a light hearted parody-ish take on mecha anime with Gundam Seed as its main inspiration but before Gundam Seed ever existed. And the theme song was pretty catchy. I think this probably one of the most underrated anime of all time. This show mixed comedy, drama, action, space adventure. . . etc. It's an anime that took all the good ideas of mecha anime and mixed them together with stuff from other genres here and there into one humungous mush of good stuff.

I'd say, MS Nadesico is probably one of the most influential anime on modern anime. If you like Code Geass, Gundam Seed, Gundam 00, and other stuff that has come out lately. . . watch this. Neon Genesis Evangelion gets a lot of credit for being influential but I think this show may have influenced animators even more eveb though it's not as original. Underrated.


Whatever happened to Ranma 1/2 and Tenchi Muyo? I remember those were huge during the 90's.

Tenchi Muyo. . . basically the father harem anime. . . I think. If it wasn't the first, it sure as hell made it beyond popular. How are the Tenchi Muyo and its spinoffs in terms of popularity? It's basically the father of harem anime, the series that kind of started the flood.

Chiibi
2008-02-13, 11:27
I don't hear people mention much about Kono minikuku mo Utsukushii Sekai (This ugly yet beautiful world). I thought it was a really good anime.

That was a really horrible anime. The characters and their emotions were totally unbelievable. Dropped it halfway.

I liked it! >_> There was nothing "horrible" about it except they went overboard with the fanservice in episode 6.:rolleyes:

Please tell me...does ANYBODY remember Shinesman?:D

SidVicious
2008-02-13, 13:28
Genshiken

In one word...masterpiece.

Terrestrial Dream
2008-02-13, 16:28
Baccano! (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1057.html)
I continue to be amazed how many people have not yet seen Baccano. Just last week I found that four of my fellow moderators had never bothered to watch an episode of Baccano. Shocking. Already three of them have now seen and loved the series. It is inevitable that the fourth will soon join our number.

This show is one of the best of 2007, yet many have never heard of it, or else dismissed it as something trivial. One person said he hadn't bothered with it because he doesn't like gangster shows. Needless to say he has recanted such words. Baccano is complicated and contains too many elements to pidgeonhole so easily.

There are quite a few people who fail to understand Baccano, but only a few who don't like it. Why aren't enough people watching this show? I thought it was amazing and people are missing out on alot by not watching this show. People please watch Baccano!, it's an amazing show.

cerrian
2008-02-13, 17:44
Irresponsible Captain Tylor: What can I say, I love this anime.



I'm sadly amazed at how this series is slowly being lost to time. Hard to believe that it has been 15 years already.

I broke out some of the old fansubs last night since it's been a while since I've last seen them and Tylor still stands as one of funniest space operas to date. In my mind, it falls in the same category as Nadesico, Gunbuster, and Gurren-Lagaan. All of them are great comedies, but they are also incredible pieces of works that pays some serious homage to the sci-fi/mecha genre of their times.

NoSanninWa
2008-02-13, 22:40
Curiously I just started rewatching Irresponsible Captain Tylor earlier this month.

Since I first saw this show not long after I started watching anime, I was afraid that it would not stand up to the test of time. After all, I've seen so much more anime now. I've raised the bar of my standards. I had a little trepidation, but I am not being disappointed by my memories. Tylor is truly a wonderful show which I am enjoying a great deal the second time around.

UnDeaD
2008-02-13, 23:35
Baccano! (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1057.html)
I continue to be amazed how many people have not yet seen Baccano. Just last week I found that four of my fellow moderators had never bothered to watch an episode of Baccano. Shocking. Already three of them have now seen and loved the series. It is inevitable that the fourth will soon join our number.

This show is one of the best of 2007, yet many have never heard of it, or else dismissed it as something trivial. One person said he hadn't bothered with it because he doesn't like gangster shows. Needless to say he has recanted such words. Baccano is complicated and contains too many elements to pidgeonhole so easily.

There are quite a few people who fail to understand Baccano, but only a few who don't like it.

I disagree. Baccano is a truly enjoyable show, but everything about the storytelling is extremely straightforward. Even the actual time-jumping quirk is linear outside of the first episode.

KholdStare
2008-02-13, 23:41
I got turned off from Baccano from the OP, because they introduced like 50 characters. I've always hated shows with too many characters, so I didn't watch the rest of the episode. No worries, since I probably will, because it's actually getting recommended a quite lot.

gaguri
2008-02-14, 01:29
Kanashimi no Belladonna, easily one of the most underrepresented work of art. Probably because it's made in 1973, and it takes a bit of googling to find where to download the clips and the translated dialogue (hopefully someone sub this wink wink). So beautiful, psychedelic, poetic and erotic. Other gems like these that are relatively not well known, are imo 1001 Nights, Angel's Egg and in a sense, works of Studio 4C such as Comedy and Cat's Soup (because more people are now being introduced to their works).

Khaos
2008-02-14, 02:35
(Zoku) Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, don't know how well-known this series is, but it surely deserves more attention. ;)

Zomgfruitbunnies
2008-02-14, 03:23
I'd recommend Dennou Coil, a great show that went mostly unnoticed last year.

cicido
2008-02-14, 03:26
I got turned off from Baccano from the OP, because they introduced like 50 characters. I've always hated shows with too many characters, so I didn't watch the rest of the episode. No worries, since I probably will, because it's actually getting recommended a quite lot.

The amount of characters seem over-whelming for a 13 episode series, but every one of the characters are unique in their own way so you connect with them easily. And it's fun to watch through the op for the characters every episode :3

TinyRedLeaf
2008-02-14, 13:52
It occured to me that no one spoke up for Haibane Renmei on this thread. It remains my favourite anime series of all time, but it's not well-known outside its small circle of fans.

If you're looking for a series with deep emotional resonance, Haibane Renmei is definitely something worth exploring. It's a moving story about finding salvation through friendship and forgiveness. It's also an anime masterpiece that can be interpreted at many different levels, which makes it extremely rewarding to watch and study. It's been analysed in great detail over at the Old Home Bulletin Board (http://cff.ssw.net/forum/index.php), a great place to find answers to any queries you may have after watching the series.

Frankly though, I make a poor evangelist - I'm not hardcore enough. Instead, I leave it to Majic, the foremost expert on Haibanology to promote (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=853235&postcount=73) the show.

Ryougi Shiki
2008-02-14, 15:00
I'm going with Seto no Hayanome and Dennou Coil here. The former may seem a bit crass, but there hasn't been a true comedy/parody/romance/slice of life/action/awesome fight scene blend for a while.

Also, I rarely hear people talk about Hajime no Ippo anymore.

stelok
2008-02-15, 03:32
Grander Musashi RV- it was entertaining anime about the concept of fishing. Sadly it is pretty underhyped and does not get mentioned much.


Daimos- is a classic super robot anime about a tragic love story mixed with cool super robot fights. It had one of the best Romeo-and-Juliet couples ever in the anime. It's so obscure that no one discusses it anymore.

Terrestrial Dream
2008-02-15, 14:33
I got turned off from Baccano from the OP, because they introduced like 50 characters. I've always hated shows with too many characters, so I didn't watch the rest of the episode. No worries, since I probably will, because it's actually getting recommended a quite lot. The amount of character might be bit overwhelming but after watching first five episode or so you will probably get the general idea of their name.
Grander Musashi RV- it was entertaining anime about the concept of fishing. Sadly it is pretty underhyped and does not get mentioned much.


Daimos- is a classic super robot anime about a tragic love story mixed with cool super robot fights. It had one of the best Romeo-and-Juliet couples ever in the anime. It's so obscure that no one discusses it anymore. Omg that's what it was called? Grander Musashi? I remember watching this fishing anime long time ago and I didn't remember it's title. It was kinda of interesting show though the first one was pretty good, but the second was bit weird to me, though I didn't finish the show so can't really say much. And Daimos is from 70's so I expect not many people to talk about it. I mean you don't see people talking about Mazinga Z, and that was the most famous super robot show at that era.

KholdStare
2008-02-15, 14:55
It occured to me that no one spoke up for Haibane Renmei on this thread. It remains my favourite anime series of all time, but it's not well-known outside its small circle of fans.

If you're looking for a series with deep emotional resonance, Haibane Renmei is definitely something worth exploring. It's a moving story about finding salvation through friendship and forgiveness. It's also an anime masterpiece that can be interpreted at many different levels, which makes it extremely rewarding to watch and study. It's been analysed in great detail over at the Old Home Bulletin Board (http://cff.ssw.net/forum/index.php), a great place to find answers to any queries you may have after watching the series.

Wow, this is COMPLETELY true. Haibane Renmei has always been on my top five list ever since I watched it, but yet I seem to forget it sometimes. It's not an anime that comes to mind when someone asks for a recommendation since it's so unique, but I really think it's a masterpiece. However, it took me a while to actually find all the answers and came up with my own interpretation with the show, and that was when I think it became a top favorite.

Chiibi
2008-02-15, 16:41
Haibane Renmei does look really interesting. I remember seeing clips from AMV Hell 3 and I was like oooh what is that? :)

KholdStare
2008-02-15, 17:06
Haibane Renmei does look really interesting. I remember seeing clips from AMV Hell 3 and I was like oooh what is that? :)

To tell you the truth I only watched this anime because I saw it in an AMV, then saw its high ratings (but few) on ANN. I thought I would try watching something that only a few thinks is good, and I got myself a masterpiece. Just be warned though, it's not an anime to be enjoyed and wants you to watch the next episode immediately.

Wirbelwind8
2008-02-15, 17:48
It occured to me that no one spoke up for Haibane Renmei on this thread. It remains my favourite anime series of all time, but it's not well-known outside its small circle of fans.

If you're looking for a series with deep emotional resonance, Haibane Renmei is definitely something worth exploring. It's a moving story about finding salvation through friendship and forgiveness. It's also an anime masterpiece that can be interpreted at many different levels, which makes it extremely rewarding to watch and study. It's been analysed in great detail over at the Old Home Bulletin Board (http://cff.ssw.net/forum/index.php), a great place to find answers to any queries you may have after watching the series.

Frankly though, I make a poor evangelist - I'm not hardcore enough. Instead, I leave it to Majic, the foremost expert on Haibanology to promote (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=853235&postcount=73) the show.

Haibane Renmei was indeed an awesome show that wants you to keep watching more and more to see whats going on and whatnot. Alot of anime shows have that drive, but this one is unique and different. ;)

Chiibi
2008-02-15, 22:47
Just be warned though, it's not an anime to be enjoyed and wants you to watch the next episode immediately.

Heh...that's not necessarily a bad thing if you're a student who needs to focus on homework instead of anime...:heh:

[EDIT]

I TOTALLY forgot about Petite Princess Yucie. Definitely a wonderful show. Doesn't get any attention at all. :(

ApostleOfGod
2008-03-10, 08:51
Black Cat:

I think this was awesome, and it's too bad not many people seen it, or it doesn't seem great to some people. The plot was very interesting and the characters all went through quite a bit. There were lots to develop, and lots were developed. A masterpiece... Too bad not many people watched it...

Scrapped Princess:

Likewise. A really good anime, very steady and fast paced, but last time I tried posting in the Scrapped Princess section, it pretty much went down the drain :(
It's such a good anime, every aspect of it I would give a 10.

These two are one of those animes that I never bother looking at the time or how many episodes there are just to wait for it to finish. Rather, I told myself I'd watch one more episode of Black Cat at around 10-11PM in the evening, but ended up going over 12AM somehow...

All in all, two great shows.

P.S. I havn't watched Baccano! yet, I really should have when I had the chance at the Anime Club...

D a m i e n
2008-03-10, 09:27
gundou musashi was a masterpiece but it was never intend to be one.

sexy commando sugoyo masaru is a nonsensical masterpiece it s one of my favorite comedi anime with ebichu.

i think that one of the most recent anime that didnt get the recognition it deserved was The Skullman.

reguarding Black Cat i only read the books and they left me totally unconcerned but that s cause i dont like shonen anymore.
reguarding Scrapped princess, it was good not a masterpiece but what killed the show for me was when they resurected her. it would have been so much better if she had died in order to set free humanity (she was only able to converse with "god" when she got killed)

Terrestrial Dream
2008-06-08, 08:21
Now I started a campaign for under appreciated anime and well the response have been pretty weak. So if anybody are interested go to this thread http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=67282

Telmah
2008-06-08, 12:04
I'll add my voice to Haibane Renmei. It to me is the only anime that I've seen that can really hold its own against non anime work because it is tackling tough issues and completely amazing. There's not action or romance or any of the other stables of anime...it's just parable to our own existence...so much symbolism. It's the best of the best...

I enjoyed Voices of a Distant Star. For twenty minutes of your time, it tackles some amazing issues...how can you both understand and admirable characters with so little screen time is beyond me. It took me a few viewings to understand if the ending was bittersweet, sad, or a happy one...but I think I finally understand now. It changed my viewpoint of ovas and has become a yardstick in many ways for me.

I'll salute Princess Tutu, like many have on this thread, so surfice to say, I agree with the previous assessments...mid way through the first season it just decided to become amazing and the second season only became better.

Of late I've become really fond of Utawarerumono and why it might not be a master piece, I certainly feel it is perhaps...under appreciated, but perhaps I am wrong.

tetsuo
2008-09-06, 18:18
Well I saw that there was a top 5 most overrated animes thread...and thought, why not have an underrated thread. so here it is.

1. School Rumble - One of the funniest anime's i've ever seen in my life. (and much much better than Azumanga Daioh in my opinion)

2. Haijime No Ippo - Its a really good underdog story, and it has some pretty intense fights when they go on...although seems like the anime version of Rocky....

3. History's Greatest Diciple Kenichi - Everytime I try and bring this up no one has ever heard of it T_T when the fighting is just so good and the characters are just so awesome.

4. Monster - Did everything that Death Note did except better, even the bad guy is probably one of the most demented minds ever thought up.

5. Honey and Clover(both season) - BEST ROMANCE EVER!

Vashar
2008-09-06, 21:11
Those are all highly rated at around 8. Just because you may think they're worth 9-10s doesn't mean they're underrated. A 9 on AniDB is basically a 10, because that's the highest rating of anything on there.

I personally watched all of them, but didn't really enjoy History's Greatest Diciple Kenichi or Honey and Clover.

Try to find something rated under 7 on AniDB. I know some comedies and space operas get bad ratings. Comedies are always hit or miss, like seen with comedy movies in the US like Adam Sandler's comedies. Also some kid shows get some bad ratings, like Pokemon. Or dubs of popular animes like the ones shown on CN can be hit or miss depending on quality of the dub.


Afro Samurai. Rating: 6.28 (1171). Reviews: 6.21 (7). It seems like a cheesy generic kung-fu film even with cheesy English script and "dub quality" even though it was English from the start. Noting the discrepancies, you would begin to think it was all intentional. The action is where this anime made it all up.

Persona: Trinity Soul. Rating: 6.30 (236). Not a masterpiece, but an interesting show, though it drags in the middle. It was dropped and I stopped watching, but I'm interested in picking it back up.

School Days. Rating: 6.36 (1527). Reviews: 6.43 (14). Although I didn't watch the entire thing, I mainly skimmed it to get the gist of it and watched the ending, I think that can be compared directly to Rumbling Hearts or whatever that Jap name is: Eien no _something_ which is extremely highly rated.

Blassreiter. Temp Rating: 6.60 (293). I really liked this. I was given a random link to ep13 and had to watch the rest and enjoyed it all. The AniDB critics really bash the CG and GONZO. I'm definitely watching this to the end. Thinking back, I hate the intro. Good thing it's easily skipped.

Samurai Deeper Kyo. Rating: 6.68 (2045). Reviews: 5.27 (6). I borrowed this from a friend that had it burned to disc while deployed and I really liked it. I even made Demoneyes one of my online nicknames when my original didn't go through. I might have to watch it again to really say if it was good or not... in the desert, things which people may consider ugly back at home, become more beautiful.


It's not rated under 7, but I think this deserves a better rating still:

Record of Lodoss War. Rating: 7.47 (1447). Reviews: 6.91 (4). One of the first DVDs I bought and I still pop it in from time to time and it got one of my friends into anime. Not to mention it's a really common anime that a lot of anime watcher I know first enjoy.



I expect to see someone posting about Strike Witches. It has a really crappy rating and I seen random plug ins about people wanting to see more (I'm avoiding it because I hate Ecchi shows). Also, I haven't watched Sousei no Aquarion, but I was listening to some jap radio and I liked the song from it. Is it really only a 6.9? I got interested in Blassreiter from it's songs and also Air from it's songs, so I'm curious.

KholdStare
2008-09-06, 21:51
This is a thread not about anime that are not often scene but should be, but for anime that are widely seen but are often disregarded as just decent, correct? If so, then I have a list:

1) Mahoromatic. I love this series. To me it's a great mix of romance and comedy with just a bit of action to balance things out.
2) Love Hina. I wish that anime would be judged as an anime and not as an "adaptation." I really don't care what the manga readers say about this anime, but like this anime as an anime.
3) MSLN StrikerS. There's not much else to say.
4) Myself ; Yourself. This is a great series for its limitations, and people criticizing the bads while overlooking the goods have made this series very unpopular.
5) Moetan. This is one of the best series I've seen.

yezhanquan
2008-09-06, 22:45
As a standalone, I've heard my friends say that Love Hina stands out from the other harem animes, which makes me wonder, "What kind of stuff are the other harem anime about?" On the issue, I'll say: if you like the anime, do yourself a favour and read the manga.

As for Samurai Deeper Kyo, same comments as the one above, although I think you may be one of those few who liked the anime, and have never seen the manga.

I personally liked the settings for School Days, not so much the anime itself.

tetsuo
2008-09-06, 23:13
As a standalone, I've heard my friends say that Love Hina stands out from the other harem animes, which makes me wonder, "What kind of stuff are the other harem anime about?" On the issue, I'll say: if you like the anime, do yourself a favour and read the manga.

As for Samurai Deeper Kyo, same comments as the one above, although I think you may be one of those few who liked the anime, and have never seen the manga.

I personally liked the settings for School Days, not so much the anime itself.


Personally I've read the manga and I can tell you, that the manga is much better, and that they completely changed the story in the anime.

This is a thread not about anime that are not often scene but should be, but for anime that are widely seen but are often disregarded as just decent, correct? If so, then I have a list:

1) Mahoromatic. I love this series. To me it's a great mix of romance and comedy with just a bit of action to balance things out.
2) Love Hina. I wish that anime would be judged as an anime and not as an "adaptation." I really don't care what the manga readers say about this anime, but like this anime as an anime.
3) MSLN StrikerS. There's not much else to say.
4) Myself ; Yourself. This is a great series for its limitations, and people criticizing the bads while overlooking the goods have made this series very unpopular.
5) Moetan. This is one of the best series I've seen.

^_^; yeah You got what I ment to say....sorry if I was being unclear.

yezhanquan
2008-09-06, 23:16
Personally I've read the manga and I can tell you, that the manga is much better, and that they completely changed the story in the anime.



I'm guessing that this comment was for SDK, which I agree completely.

KholdStare
2008-09-07, 00:23
Yeah, and that's the thing. If the series is so different that it changed the story from the manga, then that's more reason to treat the anime as a separate entity from the manga, even though they share the same name. I have no problem with that, although others might be offended since they really like that manga. I totally understand that; I just have a different point of view on anime adaptations.

yezhanquan
2008-09-07, 00:38
Yeah, and that's the thing. If the series is so different that it changed the story from the manga, then that's more reason to treat the anime as a separate entity from the manga, even though they share the same name. I have no problem with that, although others might be offended since they really like that manga. I totally understand that; I just have a different point of view on anime adaptations.

I think the manga fans would like to think that the other version never existed, if it sucked enough.

KholdStare
2008-09-07, 00:45
I think the manga fans would like to think that the other version never existed, if it sucked enough.

But it only sucks because it's different and did not meet their expectations. They have to see the anime before reading the manga to judge if it sucks or not.

yezhanquan
2008-09-07, 01:00
But it only sucks because it's different and did not meet their expectations. They have to see the anime before reading the manga to judge if it sucks or not.

Even without comparison, the SDK anime was.... unimaginative, to say the least. Aliens in Tokugawa Japan, nuff said.

KholdStare
2008-09-07, 01:06
Even without comparison, the SDK anime was.... unimaginative, to say the least. Aliens in Tokugawa Japan, nuff said.

Oh, I don't know the SDK anime. :D I thought we were talking about Love Hina but I guess not. My bad... :heh:

yezhanquan
2008-09-07, 01:24
Oh, I don't know the SDK anime. :D I thought we were talking about Love Hina but I guess not. My bad... :heh:

Like I mentioned earlier, the LH anime was good compared to the other harem anime of the time, at least according to my friends. Personally, I resist comment because I was exposed to the manga first, and do not have much experience when it comes to anime.

Dream
2008-09-07, 01:31
i gotta say Welcome to the NHK.

The satrical humor is great and black comedy is pulled off nicely.
It covers many themes and issues in the world without being so blatantly obvious. Finally good to NOT see friendship/love beats everything for once.
And best of all realistic character development pace. Be it the hotel scene, cliff scene and the ending condition. it makes sense
Despite some unbelievable stunt, it feels natural regardless.

But i think lot of series are underated either because
a. Few fans think its really good, when its actually not that great
b. High level of intelligence needed to fully understand it, so majority of population don't get it.

yezhanquan
2008-09-07, 02:01
I'll argue that most seinen (in terms of intellectual) anime falls into the "underrated" category.

KholdStare
2008-09-07, 02:52
Even though I clearly stated the difference between underrepresented and underrated in one of my earlier posts, these threads got merged anyways. :rolleyes:

Ermes Marana
2008-09-07, 02:57
True, underrated = well known, but not considered great

Underrepresented = Unknown, but considered great by the few that watch it


They have nothing to do with each other. They probably got combined because of language misunderstandings.

qtipbrit
2008-09-07, 03:13
Being well-known isn't really a requisite for being underrated, though they usually go hand in hand.

Vashar
2008-09-07, 14:31
I was looking for the Top 5 underrated thread, but it was merged with this one. Well, since the topic has changed, I'm going to go ahead and add another under-appreciated title:

Tenshi na Konamaiki (Cheeky Angel). One of the funniest anime series I've ever watched. Ranma 1/2 and School Rumble in one practically.

anime ronin
2008-09-07, 17:52
Kemonozume - definately an anime that deserves more credit due to its creatiivity, plot, and story settings.

gold_orb
2008-09-07, 21:15
disgaea - halarious. I love how laharl and flonnes personalitys bounce off each. also, in my opinion, a very romantic end.

super gals - (I only got up to episode 19, i couldn't find the rest) funny with an extreemly likable cast. the chibi dancing cut-sean transaction is one of the funniest things i have ever sceen. ron and honda moments for the win.

dojin works - funny with some halarious artwork. i love how the chracters turn like carbord cutouts. it really fits the idea of this being a show about manga.

he is my mater (not certian about rating) - one of my favorit animes, but not becuse of the small echie moments. it's becuse it's one of the few small harem animes that feture a boy who is a jack ass and the main girl who hates his guts. the interaction between izumi and yoshtica is priceless. it's also really funny, episode 4 being halarious.

k0zz
2008-09-08, 07:48
there are plenty of series that don't get the attention they deserve or are hated im just gonna name 3.

im gonna start off @ #1 naruto naruto is now hated because of 3 main reasons:
too many fillers
they went cheap now on the animation
naruto fansubbers are sadly douchebags
The manga is still immensely popular, i hope that in time naruto(anime) will be restored to its former glory.

now @ #2 one piece this series is probably one of the most creative series thought up, every arc has a new batch of characters which are completly original , there's a lot of shows out there where the characters are knockoffs, currently in the shows i watch coming out every week this is the one i look forward to most, because of its comedy.

and finally @ #3 bleach well this series is having the exact same problems as naruto however whenever it actually does the manga's story its one of the best out there.

lol, gonna be so many flames for these 3 series judged by ppl as "noob" series

C.A.
2008-09-08, 08:39
lol, gonna be so many flames for these 3 series judged by ppl as "noob" seriesNobody judges One Piece as a 'noob series' and it isn't even common for One Piece to be brought down to their level for their anime series.

One Piece does very well in both manga and anime and Japan and east asia loves it. Its just underrepresented in the west because of the disastrous dubs that failed it.

KholdStare
2008-09-08, 11:03
there are plenty of series that don't get the attention they deserve or are hated im just gonna name 3.

im gonna start off @ #1 naruto naruto is now hated because of 3 main reasons:
too many fillers
they went cheap now on the animation
naruto fansubbers are sadly douchebags
The manga is still immensely popular, i hope that in time naruto(anime) will be restored to its former glory.

now @ #2 one piece this series is probably one of the most creative series thought up, every arc has a new batch of characters which are completly original , there's a lot of shows out there where the characters are knockoffs, currently in the shows i watch coming out every week this is the one i look forward to most, because of its comedy.

and finally @ #3 bleach well this series is having the exact same problems as naruto however whenever it actually does the manga's story its one of the best out there.

lol, gonna be so many flames for these 3 series judged by ppl as "noob" series

I will admit that Naruto and Bleach were once great, but that's really as far as I'll go. Bleach is still decent, but Naruto lost its touch, but this is just my opinion of course.

Shinigami_Mello
2008-09-08, 17:47
Baccano!

It's wonderful, yet there's so little who've seen it!

Nina.Wolken
2008-09-08, 18:13
Baccano!

It's wonderful, yet there's so little who've seen it!

*add to the "want to watch one day" list*

I heard some people say it was good rather than wonderful before. I should watch it myself to be sure definitly :p.


IMO the most underrepresented anime masterpiece is Simoun. This show suffered from the very beginning of a severe categorization (ok, it's a yuri, but not only) and the promotion made for it when it was initialy broadcast was awful, which can explain its current underrepresented state.

I consider this show as the more touching and enriching I've ever seen :). Following by its spiritual successor, Hitohira.

Deus ex Digital Boy
2008-09-08, 19:51
This list is way too long for me to go through and bitch about which ones are perfectly well known, which are overrated, and which I agree with, so I'll just make my own list...

EXTREMELY UNDERREPRESENTED - WATCH THESE NOW

OCEAN WAVES - The words 'Forgotten Ghibli Classic' Should NEVER have to be used!!!

THE LEGEND OF BLACK HEAVEN - Easily one of the most awesome, unique, fun, amazing, and great show of the 90s and it's flown totally under the radar.

VERY UNDERREPRESENTED - STILL WATCH THEM

Earth Maiden Arjuna - Many dismiss it as preachy and miss the real messages, an anime that NEEDS to be taken into consideration by everyone. I think that if you are a person who 'disagrees' with the show's overall message, we can never get along, haha.

Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight - It's not unpopular by any means but not many people seem to recognize the depth of this show, calling it 'slice of life' and such. Easily one of the most important anime out there.

Hatenkou yuugi - no one seemed to watch it! The show has the best dialog in anime, period.

Maria-sama ga Miteru - See Simoun. The fact that people who like this also like Strawberry Panic disgusts me.

Red Garden - It's even been licensed and still no one is watching it. Matsuo kou is one of the best anime directors alive, and this is truly a testament to his mastery.

Simoun - It's a shame that almost the only fanbase this manages to grab is the yuri fanbase when it deserves to be seen by everyone.

SoulTaker - There are people who judge this by it's plot. Something is wrong with these people.

Texhnolyze - ...actually this is just fucking pretentious

KIND OF UNDERREPRESENTED

Revolutionary Girl Utena and Martian Successor Nadesico - Both have decent fanbases, but neither gets the directorial credit they deserve.

KholdStare
2008-09-08, 20:03
I recognize the depth of Manabi Straight, and I still call it a slice of life. The two aren't opposites of each other, and I rather think you're insulting one of my favorite genres.

Deus ex Digital Boy
2008-09-08, 20:05
I recognize the depth of Manabi Straight, and I still call it a slice of life. The two aren't opposites of each other, and I rather think you're insulting one of my favorite genres.

no wai, I love slice of life, and it can be deep, but Manabi is not slice of life. It's as much of a plot as Gurren Lagann (and a similar one at that.) Calling it slice of life is like saying 'anything is slice of life because it shows someone's life'

KholdStare
2008-09-08, 20:23
Well, there's already pages of posts about the real definition of "slice of life" so I don't want to create more. All I will say is that out of all possible genres, Manabi Straight feels to me like slice of life the most, even though it's definitely not what you call a typical slice of life.

Skyfall
2008-09-08, 23:42
Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight - It's not unpopular by any means but not many people seem to recognize the depth of this show, calling it 'slice of life' and such. Easily one of the most important anime out there.


I would be hesitant about calling it a masterpiece, but ... i do wonder why you are suggesting that something being slice of life implies lack of depth. Last time i checked, "depth" is not genre dependent. And actually it is slice of life to a degree, more so than anything else. (Even if it's mood and comedy tends to be different from what is usually imagined with slice of life label).

Proto
2008-09-09, 01:14
I've been saying that the term slice of life has been vandalized, raped down, and horribly abused for two years now anyway...

Manabi Straight slice of life? Minami ke slice of life? Lucky Star slice of life? Heck, I've seen people calling Honey & Clover slice of life. Whatever happened to the term where only series like YKK, Aria and Piano could fit in :p

... but I disgress...

KholdStare
2008-09-09, 02:21
Whatever Manabi Straight is, even if it's unique, I think that it is a true masterpiece, underrepresented at least. Very few anime can have a better story as far as I can tell.

Skyfall
2008-09-09, 04:03
I've been saying that the term slice of life has been vandalized, raped down, and horribly abused for two years now anyway...

Manabi Straight slice of life? Minami ke slice of life? Lucky Star slice of life? Heck, I've seen people calling Honey & Clover slice of life. Whatever happened to the term where only series like YKK, Aria and Piano could fit in :p

... but I disgress...

Granted i haven't seen Piano (guess i have something to check out now :)), but Aria and YKK are definitely slice of life and the first thing people tend to mention when talking about the genre. (I would place Binbou Shimai Monogatari there as well). I have no real problems placing Manabi Straight under the label either though, at least partially. It isn't what one would usually expect of SoL, but i would say it has more of what makes it SoL than any other genre. Where does one draw the line of what constitutes SoL anyway ? It has a hyperactive main character and a bit of a wacky humor, but it is still very much makes the everyday lives of the student council it's main focus. Granted, i can see why you wouldn't find the title mundane enough (and Manabi herself is largely to blame for this), but i would still say it is more of a SoL than it is anything else.

Out of curiosity: how would you define the borders of SoL, and how would you categorize Manabi Straight ? :)

Deus ex Digital Boy
2008-09-09, 04:57
slice of life should be shows that aren't driven. They don't need to lack a goal, as ARIA has that, but they don't need to constantly progress. The focus is just on the characters daily lives and emotions. The keys are moving slowly, being peaceful, and getting really deep into character emotions (like I said, they are deep, just not in the way I mean.) YKK, ARIA, Sketchbook ~full colors~, and Binbou Shimai, among others, are pure slice of life. It's not impossible for slice of life to mix with other things - Mahou Tsukai is mostly slice of life with a hint of drama, and Lucky Star and Hidamari Sketch both feature a good amount of slice of life mixed with comedy.

Manabi Straight is in no way slice of life. Every single episode is important to the overall plot, and there are no unnecessary episodes. It follows a progession - Manabi comes and becomes president of the student council -> clubroom rebuilt -> Manabi makes friends who will help them -> student council getting moving big and preparing for school festival -> The Man starts coming down on them -> REBELLION -> epic climax -> best resolution in anime period.

What makes Manabi Straight an unsung masterpiece is the incredible depth of political overtones and undercurrents of character interaction and emotion. Moments you might take for granted (such as when the other school's president visits the school and there's a random part where time slows down) actually are important. It's the kind of show you can watch over again and discover things you hadn't even realized.

Sorrow-K
2008-09-09, 09:08
Manabi Straight would have been a lot more effective in communicating its messages if it wasn't so overwhelming with its sentimentality. There's sentiment and then there's drivel and too often Manabi Straight crossed the line from the former and into the latter. I mean, did everything really need to be an overwrought celebration of simplicity or endeavor or friendship or nostalgia or some other happy-go-lucky concept? Couldn't they have spent more time fleshing out the side characters or giving more meaning and/or closure to the various relationships.

I've always kinda thought that the decision to not have a lead director in Manabi Straight undercut its potential. I mean it had all the right ideas (and as much ambition as the Apollo missions), but there was such a haphazardness to its approach. It's not something I'd consider a great example of storytelling. It lacked the elegance of an anime like ARIA, which does share a lot of the same concepts as Manabi Straight, but with enough restraint and just plain old honesty that it manages to be sentimental without being overbearing.

4Tran
2008-09-09, 09:39
My pick for this topic is Touka Gettan. It has solid characterization, excellent music, lush artwork, , quirky writing and solid direction. All in all, Touka Gettan is probably one of the best shows in the last couple of years. Heck, it even has what a lot of people say there's too little of in anime: true originality - never mind the black and white episode; the revelation episodes aren't just top-notch, they're extremely unique as well. However, it's also sadly ignored to the point where few viewers have ever progressed beyond the first five episodes or so. Being all but unmarketable, it's also one of the least-likely shows to ever be released outside of Japan.


On Slice of Life:
I've been saying that the term slice of life has been vandalized, raped down, and horribly abused for two years now anyway...

Manabi Straight slice of life? Minami ke slice of life? Lucky Star slice of life? Heck, I've seen people calling Honey & Clover slice of life. Whatever happened to the term where only series like YKK, Aria and Piano could fit in:p
Hear, hear. Far too many people label a show as a "slice of life" if it has any slice of life elements in it.

Out of curiosity: how would you define the borders of SoL, and how would you categorize Manabi Straight ? :)
I'm not Proto, but I think that "Slice of Life" should best be defined by it's common elements:

Emphasis on tone and mood.
Emphasis on the ordinary versus the extraordinary. In the case of fantastical settings, it should focus on how ordinarily the characters treat the setting.
As a subset of the above, an exploration of the everyday rather than worrying about larger/future events.

Perhaps more important than the rest, it comes down to a question of what the work is trying to achieve (more crudely, where the money shot is). If it's trying to make you laugh more than anything else, then it's a comedy (Minami Ke, Azumanga Daioh). If it's an introspective look at the characters and the consequences of their actions, then it's a drama (Honey and Clover). Likewise with romances, horror shows and action shows. Slice of life shows really shouldn't fit into the above categories in order to qualify as such - they should be much more concerned with the journey rather than the destination, so to speak.

Realistically speaking, slice of life shows are just a subset of drama (much like romances, or mysteries). The only reason to give those shows a more specific label is because it has qualities distinctive enough to fit that particular subset. The only anime that fits a different label that I'd classify as a slice of life is Figure 17, and that's only because it has such strong slice of life elements.

Manabi Straight never made all that much impression with me, but I'd classify it as a drama with comedic elements because it focuses on the overall plot much more than a true slice of life would.

Proto
2008-09-09, 10:23
I decided to dig up an old post of mine when I addressed a similar issue, here it is, after some update and overhauling :p

is School Rumble slice of life?

Heck, I even contest Minami-Ke, Lucky Star and the such being slice of life. I mean, I like them, and I like them a lot, but it would never occur me to put them on the same category as ARIA; Sketchbook, Piano, Someday Dreamers and the such.

Maybe we require a new return to slice of life's definition.
[rant]
A series is normally composed of tree major elements. Plot, characters and environment. Slice of life series tend to put a major focus on the environment, second on the characters, with next to no plot at all. The most representative SoL examples give a major emphasis to the environment, an example of this being Yokohama Shopping Log.

A series that gives more importance to the overall plot(Like, say, Legend of the Galactic Heroes) and the characters(an example on the same space opera genre would be Crest of the Stars) wouldn't qualify as SoL under this definition then, like Honey and Clover. Not that Honey and Clover is a bad series, on the contrary. I loved every second of it, and it in my Top20, however I would put it more on the romance and 'growing up' genre. (with a slight spice of comedy).

Then why do we often say that series like Lucky Star or Azumanga Daioh are slice of life comedy series? IMHO it's because this misconception stems from the "normal people doing normal things" definition. Under that bland description, Azumanga and LS would definitely be (SoL). However, under a deeper approach LS and AD focus is not the little things that make up the character lives. They are just the background settings. What really drives this show are the characters interactions, in other words, the characters. The environment and the overall feelings take a backseat to this. As such I don't think this would qualify as SoL.

It's really difficult to search for a true SoL comedy, since a comedy requires at least a slight focus on the characters, which when done in excess stems off from the SoL basic principles. However, I think that Sketchbook balances it pretty well.


Further amplifying the idea I posted that time, SoL has become as of late sort of an umbrella name for many kind of series, and I think that's because people take it's name too literally. Slice of life is not only about grabbing the life of the characters and present a piece of it. Of course it is also about that, if there were no characters we would have something more like an anime nature documentary. What differentiates shows like ARIA from Manabi Straight, which seemed to have been compared here is about the theme balance. The later is primarily about the characters reaction to the plot and the interactions between the characters. Of course the mood is very important in Manabi Straight, however what actually carries the show are the characters. If I had to balance the element weight in this show, I would put it in a characters > environment > plot order.

So what happens to ARIA? In ARIA, what plot there is is only a backstage for the characters and the environment to develop in. The real focus is in the other two elements. And now comes the difficult part. For something to qualify as SoL, it has to have a environment/mood > characters > plot balance. However, as important and endearing the characters of ARIA are, they are not the main idea the show tries to convey. What the show convey to us episode after episode is the magic of AQUA seen through the eyes of our protagonists. Our charismatic characters are the vehicle through which we can understand all the tones and all the subtleties of the environment the characters live in. As such, the characters are subordinates to the mood of the show. It is not the characters that dictate the mood, but the planet and the surrounding element who do.

So what the heck is Manabi Straight about? If it were up to me I would staple light drama and comedy in it. Maybe remarking in the plot description that the stories revolves in the short span of a year of the character lifes, and more specifically in a very important moment and situation for all the characters.

ragnarokr
2008-09-09, 11:25
Legend Of The Galactic Heroes - This indeed "Underrepresented anime masterpiece"

Maison Ikkoku - As well as Takahashi Rumiko's works, the reason to be here, is that it is unknown to the new generation.

Touch - Still one of the top ten shows in Japan, but not in the west.

And...


Akage no Anne: It was a Ghibli show before there was Ghibli. It's based on a great children's novel and consequently an almost automatic pass in character development quality over 95% of anime. It has that most amazing atmosphere of relaxation that the best slice-of-life shows want to have; despite it being a Japanese production, the portrayal of rural Canadian life will awe you with the sheer accuracy of it; and finally it has the best young female lead in the history of everything, Anne Shirley, emphasis on the "e" if you don't mind, it's more romantic that way.

She's like a young prototypical Haruhi Suzumiya without the post-modernism or the negative otaku taint, and that's coming from the latter show's greatest fan ever.

Also, watch it to understand the references to "Ah, Marilla" and "Ah, Diana" that occasionally pops up in later works. :)


Anne of the Green Gabbles is definitely a winner.

Can you cry and laugh in the same anime several times? You can't nor ever tried?? With this list, everything is possible;).

SeijiSensei
2008-09-09, 11:50
As I wrote earlier in this thread, I don't think much qualifies as a "masterpiece" except perhaps Monster, but as for recent "underappreciated" or "underrepresented" or whatever shows, I'd nominate Hakaba Kitaro (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1171.html) for its mix of great music, distinctive animation, and hardly any audience outside Japan.

Deus ex Digital Boy
2008-09-09, 13:39
Manabi Straight would have been a lot more effective in communicating its messages if it wasn't so overwhelming with its sentimentality. There's sentiment and then there's drivel and too often Manabi Straight crossed the line from the former and into the latter. I mean, did everything really need to be an overwrought celebration of simplicity or endeavor or friendship or nostalgia or some other happy-go-lucky concept? Couldn't they have spent more time fleshing out the side characters or giving more meaning and/or closure to the various relationships.

I've always kinda thought that the decision to not have a lead director in Manabi Straight undercut its potential. I mean it had all the right ideas (and as much ambition as the Apollo missions), but there was such a haphazardness to its approach. It's not something I'd consider a great example of storytelling. It lacked the elegance of an anime like ARIA, which does share a lot of the same concepts as Manabi Straight, but with enough restraint and just plain old honesty that it manages to be sentimental without being overbearing.

It's all representative. That's why it's deep. You took the show far too literally - you aren't meant to see people overreacting to things, it's that the over-the-top moments reflect the massiveness of the emotion. It's just like ef, which is more recognized for these things.

KholdStare
2008-09-09, 15:26
Manabi Straight would have been a lot more effective in communicating its messages if it wasn't so overwhelming with its sentimentality. There's sentiment and then there's drivel and too often Manabi Straight crossed the line from the former and into the latter. I mean, did everything really need to be an overwrought celebration of simplicity or endeavor or friendship or nostalgia or some other happy-go-lucky concept? Couldn't they have spent more time fleshing out the side characters or giving more meaning and/or closure to the various relationships.

I've always kinda thought that the decision to not have a lead director in Manabi Straight undercut its potential. I mean it had all the right ideas (and as much ambition as the Apollo missions), but there was such a haphazardness to its approach. It's not something I'd consider a great example of storytelling. It lacked the elegance of an anime like ARIA, which does share a lot of the same concepts as Manabi Straight, but with enough restraint and just plain old honesty that it manages to be sentimental without being overbearing.

That may be true if you're looking at Manabi Straight solely for depth alone, but the truth is, its perfect combination of its depth, emotion, and enjoyment makes it one of my favorite series.

Or, perhaps we should change the title of this thread to "Underrepresented great anime" to avoid more problems.