Bakemonogatari - Q & A

[monir]

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[zato_1one]

This is bugging me for a while. What's the purpose of password in each episode? :confused:

[sirn]

This is bugging me for a while. What's the purpose of password in each episode? :confused:

For downloading goods from Bakemonogatari mobile site. (Japanese only)

[Tran225]

anyone getting some audio/video syncing problem as they're watching this anime? i seem to have a lot of that for this anime... by ggfansubs maybe the video quality is too good for my computer to handle? well i mean it is like 390,000 kb per video ><

[Raiga]

anyone getting some audio/video syncing problem as they're watching this anime? i seem to have a lot of that for this anime... by ggfansubs maybe the video quality is too good for my computer to handle? well i mean it is like 390,000 kb per video ><

You should probably ask in the Tech Support forum.

[qwertyman]

I know it's been said countless times, but exactly what character arcs will be covered this season?

Just wondering who else I can expect to see after Kanbaru gets her light.

[Raiga]

I know it's been said countless times, but exactly what character arcs will be covered this season?

Just wondering who else I can expect to see after Kanbaru gets her light.

Hitagi Crab
Mayoi Snail
Suruga Monkey
Nadeko Snake
Tsubasa Cat

And that's it.

[mandarb916]

I know it's been said countless times, but exactly what character arcs will be covered this season?

Just wondering who else I can expect to see after Kanbaru gets her light.

I believe part of the final arc will be BD/DVD only, just to note.

[zato_1one]

anyone getting some audio/video syncing problem as they're watching this anime? i seem to have a lot of that for this anime... by ggfansubs maybe the video quality is too good for my computer to handle? well i mean it is like 390,000 kb per video ><

It may be because your machine can't handle high resolution H264. Try watching the Xvid version instead.

[Raiga]

I believe part of the final arc will be BD/DVD only, just to note.

The episodes that don't fit in the TV broadcast are apparently being streamed online, on the official site. Though probably not in great quality, but we'll see.

[Kuroi Sabato]

Hitagi Crab
Mayoi Snail
Suruga Monkey
Nadeko Snake
Tsubasa Cat

And that's it.

Nice to see know that they will be covering Hanekawa as I am curious what happened with her.

[gigaloki]

Hitagi Crab
Mayoi Snail
Suruga Monkey
Nadeko Snake
Tsubasa Cat

And that's it.

wont this arcs be included?

Tsukihi Phoenix

Karen Bee

Koyomi Vamp

or there will be a second season?! (just a question xD)

[Raiga]

Nope, it's been confirmed as five arcs for a while now. Second season is possible if this season does well, but nothing's been announced yet...

[Zetsubo]

Will the 5 arcs be done within 10 TV episodes only or will the final 5 (BSG reference) for streaming be a part of the whole story ?

10 TV 5 Web = 15 Yummy Meals ?

[zato_1one]

Will the last part that air on the web be available worldwide or Japanese only?

[Raiga]

Will the 5 arcs be done within 10 TV episodes only or will the final 5 (BSG reference) for streaming be a part of the whole story ?

10 TV 5 Web = 15 Yummy Meals ?

I don't fully remember the episode breakdown, it was posted a while (a while) back in the general thread, but I remember that the 5 arcs take up the entire 15 episodes, and that the last one is the longest.

@zato_1one: dunno, but we can only hope. Thus far all the content on the official site has been available to everyone, including the videos, but...

[sirn]

The episode breakdown is:

01-02: Hitagi Crab
03-05: Mayoi Snail
06-08: Suruga Monkey
09-10: Nadeko Snake
11-15: Tsubasa Cat

Episode 1-12 will be broadcast on TV, episode 13-15 will be distributed freely on official website.

Source is from director Shinbo interview (http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview02.html) in the official website.

[Zetsubo]

Hanekawa as a cat... hmmmmm ?

[neshru]

anyone getting some audio/video syncing problem as they're watching this anime? i seem to have a lot of that for this anime... by ggfansubs maybe the video quality is too good for my computer to handle? well i mean it is like 390,000 kb per video ><
Yes, it sounds like your computer can't handle the video.
Try using coreAVC as video decoder and Zoom Player as your player, you may be able to solve your problem even if your computer is old.

[rocket]

Ok, how do people rate the various competing subbers? Right now I'm archiving 3 and I really feel like that's overkill even for such great a series.

[zato_1one]

Ok, how do people rate the various competing subbers? Right now I'm archiving 3 and I really feel like that's overkill even for such great a series.

I follow gg for speed sub. Even though it's speed sub but I actually prefer gg translation. Easy to understand and read. But for more quality, I will wait for Frostii (very slow). IMO

[Ice Block]

Hanekawa as a cat... hmmmmm ?
Allow me to direct you to Ep01's not so silhouettey silhouettes:
And of course, Ep01 silhouettes with brightness and contrast increased to make them more revealing:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Bakemonogatari/th_tsubasacatep010000.jpg (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Bakemonogatari/tsubasacatep010000.jpg) http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Bakemonogatari/th_tsubasacatep010001.jpg (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/matr1x_zzz/Bakemonogatari/tsubasacatep010001.jpg)
(click to enlarge);)

[zato_1one]

I'm not sure if I can ask this here.

Can someone tell me if C76 has Bakemonogatari doujin or not? :eyespin:

[Raiga]

I'm not sure if I can ask this here.

Can someone tell me if C76 has Bakemonogatari doujin or not? :eyespin:

It's probably easier to ask what series don't have doujin at Comiket. :P

I remember seeing a good several C76 Bakemonogatari doujin sample pics while browsing pixiv, so yeah, they're somewhere out there.

[gigaloki]

Nope, it's been confirmed as five arcs for a while now. Second season is possible if this season does well, but nothing's been announced yet...

uhhmmm... so tahts all, tnx for the info btw xD

[Mandoric]

Nice to see know that they will be covering Hanekawa as I am curious what happened with her.

Hanekawa is Shinbo's favorite (and, also, so far my favorite), so expect a lot of love slathered on those eps too.

[Miyuki-ism]

There's a new episode every Monday right? Meaning tomorrow, right?

[Raiga]

There's a new episode every Monday right? Meaning tomorrow, right?

There's a new episode every Friday. This week was skipped due to a scheduling... I'm not sure what happened but no episode this week. Ep 7 will air on Friday the 21st.

[Miyuki-ism]

Oh, really, OK, every Friday then starting again on the 21st.

[totalnet]

Ok, how do people rate the various competing subbers? Right now I'm archiving 3 and I really feel like that's overkill even for such great a series.

If I can't decide which group's sub is the best, I will head over to the AnimeDB site and check the ratings on all the groups that subbing that particular Anime. For now, Frostii is rated the highest, but they only release 1 episode. Koharubi is the second highest in the rating.

[Miyuki-ism]

I've downloaded all of [gg]'s but I like accuracy over how easy it is to read, but their subs are still good, I haven't checked out Frostii's or Koharubi's yet.

[Polarpew]

I'm not sure if I can ask this here.

Can someone tell me if C76 has Bakemonogatari doujin or not? :eyespin:

...Just checked, there's a few and they are all pretty good
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1978359 found some people posting about them. The doujins are in pretty good quality

[zato_1one]

...Just checked, there's a few and they are all pretty good
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1978359 found some people posting about them. The doujins are in pretty good quality

I really love bittorrent. So easy to find good stuffs. :D

[Polarpew]

@zato

What type of Bakemonogatari doujins are you reading?

[zato_1one]

@zato

What type of Bakemonogatari doujins are you reading?

Well, if you wanna know. I collect all Bakemonogatari doujins as many as I can find, indiscriminately. :eyespin:

[Polarpew]

Well, if you wanna know. I collect all Bakemonogatari doujins as many as I can find, indiscriminately. :eyespin:

ah same here. I bought about as many as I could afford in one go

[zato_1one]

Have these interviews mentioned something about the plan for making the sequel of Bakemonogatari or not? I mean the adaptation plan for next light novel in monogatari series.

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview01.html

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview02.html

[sirn]

Have these interviews mentioned something about the plan for making the sequel of Bakemonogatari or not? I mean the adaptation plan for next light novel in monogatari series.

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview01.html

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview02.html

It's not in these two interviews, but the one in Pandora Vol.3. Shinbo said he want to do Kizumonogatari and Nisemonogatari anime if Bakemonogatari a success. Nisio Isin also offered to write him a manuscript for Nekomonogatari Movie if he want. (Two more sequel books was not announced by that time.)

[zato_1one]

It's not in these two interviews, but the one in Pandora Vol.3. Shinbo said he want to do Kizumonogatari and Nisemonogatari anime if Bakemonogatari a success. Nisio Isin also offered to write him a manuscript for Nekomonogatari Movie if he want. (Two more sequel books was not announced by that time.)

Oh! Thank you very much. I pray that this show will be successful as he expects. :bow:

[Kaisos Erranon]

Given the show's considerable popularity on both 2chan and /a/... yeah, I think we're getting a sequel.

[ickem]

Given the show's considerable popularity on both 2chan and /a/... yeah, I think we're getting a sequel.

The dvds/blu-ray preorders are doing pretty well too it seems. Shipping's so damned expensive...well at least it looks like they won't be doing that 2 ep per disc crap with this show.

[cyoti]

Where is Senjougahara's father during Hitagi Crab?

[Raiga]

Where is Senjougahara's father during Hitagi Crab?

Wandering around off-screen doing fatherly things?

It's been noted that background characters don't appear in this series (at the very least, there don't seem to be any background characters with dialogue in the novels, from what I've heard, and Shaft seems to be taking extra care to avoid showing them. Remember the OP that consisted of nothing but Mayoi, and the construction worker[?] icons that stand in for people in Kanbaru's flasback?).

Since Hitagi mentions she did work for him to earn money and whatnot, I don't think he's a bad father or anything. Just not enough a part of the immediate story to warrant an appearance.

[Clarste]

Even important side-characters like Hitagi's mother don't get any lines or even proper character designs. No one has appeared in an episode other than the main characters and Koyomi's sisters.

[Daniel E.]

Bit of a silly question but...

While checking the characters section in the official Bake site, I noticed that Senjougahara's name was actually written instead as Senjyogahara.

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/chara/

And was wondering wich is the correct one? :p

A mistake on the official site, or are both correct ways to write down her name?

[TinyRedLeaf]

That's likely a typo error on the website. Given the sheer number of obvious typo/spelling errors in the series so far, I'm not particularly surprised to find another mistake here. :p

Senjougahara would be the typical way to transliterate her name from hiragana.

Alternatively, we could write Senjōgahara, but that would be a bit inconvenient, given the need for one special character.

[Clarste]

At first I though it was the Kunrei-shiki romanization system, which is the official system used in Japan. The internet tends to use another system which a lot of people think has more intuitive pronunciations.

Then I looked it up. It's just wrong.

[Daniel E.]

I see, thanks to the both of you for the fast replies! :)

[senarious]

Won't be there "Koyomi Vamp" arc ?
Is Tsubasa cat arc really that long ? (5 ep)

[Clarste]

Not part of this season anyway. The anime is based on the Bakemonogatari novels, which have 5 arcs ending with Tsubasa Neko. Koyomi Vamp is part of the prequel novel Kizumonogatari, and therefore is not going to be part of this season.

Given how popular the show is turning out to be though, I'd be very surprised if they weren't thinking about animating Kizumonogatari in the future (along with Nisemonogatari etc).

[Magin]

I'm curious... someone remind me when the first DVD of this series is supposed to be released?

[Shiroth]

I'm curious... someone remind me when the first DVD of this series is supposed to be released?
September 30th. :)

[~Secret~]

The episode breakdown is:

01-02: Hitagi Crab
03-05: Mayoi Snail
06-08: Suruga Monkey
09-10: Nadeko Snake
11-15: Tsubasa Cat

Episode 1-12 will be broadcast on TV, episode 13-15 will be distributed freely on official website.

Source is from director Shinbo interview (http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/interview02.html) in the official website.
Wait is that really true?!
Why does Nadeko only get 2 episodes and why are 3 of Tsubasa's being show online and not all 4?

[Shiroth]

Wait is that really true?!
Why does Nadeko only get 2 episodes and why are 3 of Tsubasa's being show online and not all 4?
Because the TV station's will only air 12 episodes.

[Daniel E.]

Is anybody subbing the extended previews?

Do they add anything important or worth knowing?

I can't never make heads or tails out of the regular ones so.... :p

[fish eric]

Bit of a silly question but...

While checking the characters section in the official Bake site, I noticed that Senjougahara's name was actually written instead as Senjyogahara.

http://www.bakemonogatari.com/chara/

And was wondering wich is the correct one? :p

A mistake on the official site, or are both correct ways to write down her name?

When I was learning Japanese my text book had 3 different ways that one could romanizise (sp?) Hiragana.

That way looks to be legitimate. I may get that text book out later and make sure.

[Vexx]

Is anybody subbing the extended previews?

Do they add anything important or worth knowing?

I can't never make heads or tails out of the regular ones so.... :p

From what I've read, they're important closures to the last arc and the overall storyline.... they simply had to have 15 episodes and only 12 fit in a cour.

I'm assuming our subber groups will continue their activities (though I wonder what the resolution of the webbed episodes will be).

I figure someone will do the DVD R2 torrents later... with the current economy, I'm really not counting on this one ever seeing R1 (though I'll order it delivered via rocket if it happens).

[Miyuki-ism]

It's possible for use to watch the ones that will be streamed right? Even if it is just RAW.

[kenshin-dono]

guess i'll ask this here, read through and dont really see an answer to it

I just d.loaded the epps of this that are out so far and only had time to watch a few.. kinda interesting but what the heck is with the stupid flash's with text? the animation seems quite poor as well. I did a little searching online and i guess the studio animating it, Shaft, is notorious for being quite cheap and spreading itself to thin. I saw an article about episode 10 having an absurd amount of those little text boxes, with a lot just saying 'scene missing' and next to no animation at the end

whats the deal with this? Is the studio just this bad quality? are they running out of time? Trying to play it off as a certain style seems like a cop out to me. Just wondering if anyone knew whats going on, im wondering if its even worth watching the rest of this

[Raiga]

guess i'll ask this here, read through and dont really see an answer to it

I just d.loaded the epps of this that are out so far and only had time to watch a few.. kinda interesting but what the heck is with the stupid flash's with text? the animation seems quite poor as well. I did a little searching online and i guess the studio animating it, Shaft, is notorious for being quite cheap and spreading itself to thin. I saw an article about episode 10 having an absurd amount of those little text boxes, with a lot just saying 'scene missing' and next to no animation at the end

whats the deal with this? Is the studio just this bad quality? are they running out of time? Trying to play it off as a certain style seems like a cop out to me. Just wondering if anyone knew whats going on, im wondering if its even worth watching the rest of this

From what I've heard, it's mostly production scheduling problems and issues finding an outsourcing company. They seem to be pretty good on the financial end for this series, in terms of sponsors and all, so it appears they just ran out of time and manpower last week.

Some fixes have been made on versions of the episode that broadcast on other stations, and presumably it's all gonna be better on the DVD. Still, this series has overall, so far as my eye can tell, been significantly better animated than most of Shaft's other shows, and the finished parts of episode 10 were still high quality.

[kenshin-dono]

thanks.. wow so it really is them justl literally leaving blank screens saying scene missing?? wow.. just.. wow. I dont get how a company can get away with doing that o_O

havent seen as far as 10 yet though ive d.loaded that much, but still, i cant belive a profesional company would release somthing liike that, it just seems so ameture. I guess i'll have to see how bad it is as i go but dont know how long i can put with it if its as bad as it looks

[Vexx]

thanks.. wow so it really is them justl literally leaving blank screens saying scene missing?? wow.. just.. wow. I dont get how a company can get away with doing that o_O

havent seen as far as 10 yet though ive d.loaded that much, but still, i cant belive a profesional company would release somthing liike that, it just seems so ameture. I guess i'll have to see how bad it is as i go but dont know how long i can put with it if its as bad as it looks

Go back and watch any number of SHAFT epics with Shinbo directing (TMP, PPD, Negima!?, Hidamari Sketch, etc) they *all* have these gaffs in animation/budget/timecrunch during broadcast. One can argue whether its "arty" or not. It usually gets fixed by DVD release.

[Daniel E.]

From what I've read, they're important closures to the last arc and the overall storyline....

I see.

Thanks for the reply! :)

When I was learning Japanese my text book had 3 different ways that one could romanizise (sp?) Hiragana.

That way looks to be legitimate. I may get that text book out later and make sure.

The plot tickens!

I'll be checking regulary for any updates on this. :D

[Woland]

From what I've read, they're important closures to the last arc and the overall storyline.... they simply had to have 15 episodes and only 12 fit in a cour.

I'm assuming our subber groups will continue their activities (though I wonder what the resolution of the webbed episodes will be).

I figure someone will do the DVD R2 torrents later... with the current economy, I'm really not counting on this one ever seeing R1 (though I'll order it delivered via rocket if it happens).

He is asking about extended previews, NOT web (?) episode 13-14-15.
These can be found on bakemonogatari official website, this is, for example the extended version for episode 11
http://www.bakemonogatari.com/special/yokoku11.html
Quite amusing but they don't have anything important for the story (for what I know). They will be included in DVD release in place of the shortened version for TV broadcast, I guess, so maybe somebody will sub those (not really confident I've still to see the extended version of some episode of Maria Holic).

[Daniel E.]

Quite amusing but they don't have anything important for the story (for what I know). They will be included in DVD release in place of the shortened version for TV broadcast, I guess, so maybe somebody will sub those (not really confident I've still to see the extended version of some episode of Maria Holic).

I figured as much. Kinda feel like asking, though. :meh:

Thanks for clearing that one! :nod:

And I actually though that Vexx was just adding a bit of extra info to his reply. Guess they are really not that important to the story :p

[Vexx]

I'll plead "d'oh" ... I didn't know there were "extended previews" :P :)

[Miyuki-ism]

They're on the official site, but the video player fails there, at least for me.

[kenshin-dono]

Go back and watch any number of SHAFT epics with Shinbo directing (TMP, PPD, Negima!?, Hidamari Sketch, etc) they *all* have these gaffs in animation/budget/timecrunch during broadcast. One can argue whether its "arty" or not. It usually gets fixed by DVD release.

blea well ive watched a good chunk of them now and i think im avoiding all future shaft releases. Honestly i find this show pretty interesting, but the animatino studio completely ruined it with their cheap time/cost cutting tricks. No its not artsy. I thought that at first but as it goes on they are longer and more drawn out and just basically in the way of what could have been powerfull scenes.

are ALL shaft productions this terrible or just ones with this sninbo guy directing? Id like a list or something so i can avoid any of his older stuff since im playing catch up on anime from the last few years, both fansub and comercial stuff. I can find production of shaft studio shows but again, is it EVERYTHING or just the stuff from that guy?

[EGFontanilla]

So like, will the DVD versions of these episodes have less random screens? Those were pretty annoying, they covered up some cool stuff.

And I hope I'm not the only one that's pissed about Nadeko getting the least amount of episodes.

[Vexx]

Read through the four pages.... Shinbo's been pulling this "omg, the animation outsourcing sucks and we're past deadline -> goto SLIDESHOW effects of scenery" since Tsukuyomi Moon Phase (or even earlier). Some of the Slideshow cuts are arty and originally intended (like the freeze frames in the Sayora Zetsubo Sensei series or some of Hidamari Sketch interstitial moments or the text frame snaps in this series)... but a LOT of it results from the "omg..." effect above.

For a while some people (including me) just attributed it to terrible luck in outsourcing.... but with this series I've come to the hypothesis that the director Shinbo and/or his staff simply massively sucks at managing production schedules and routinely put themselves in this disaster mode. I've worked too many engineering projects where the "manager" inevitably created a crisis through poor skills and then "saved the day" with wild half-assed solutions that really didn't work for the long term -- and was often christened a "hero" for it. There's also the inflated ego aspect of this sort of character and we see that too.

I'm thinking Shinbo is that sort of guy at this point. Its a shame because they give him some wonderful titles to munch up. It *does* get fixed in the DVDs... so they seem to have time to FIX the screwups but not to AVOID them in the first place.

(Tsukuyomi Moon Phase, Paniponidash, Negima!?, Hidamari Sketch series, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei series, and now the Bakemonogatari series .... have I missed any?)

are ALL shaft productions this terrible or just ones with this sninbo guy directing? Id like a list or something so i can avoid any of his older stuff since im playing catch up on anime from the last few years, both fansub and comercial stuff. I can find production of shaft studio shows but again, is it EVERYTHING or just the stuff from that guy? I wouldn't avoid all these series -- many of them are wonderful. But I would seek out the DVD versions rather than the broadcast versions. Shinbo has done well with the Negima OVAs and SZS seems to thrive on this technique.

Shaft itself has a bit of a reputation for slipshod broadcast versions of series but my experience has been mixed (some good some not-so-good).

[Forbin]

Don't forget Vexx you missed EF (Both of them). He definitely left the (Out of Time, it's B&W) stamp on the production. And he wasn't even the director.

[xris]

Please remember the purpose of this thread is to ask questions that can actually be answered as facts from the anime or manga.

Please do not turn it into a chat thread. From the first post of this thread.

This thread is for those of you with questions about the Bakemonogatari anime or manga. There are many questions that don't need a whole thread to discuss them. A simple practical answer straight from the anime or manga without any speculation can solve these connundrums. If someone has such a question about Bakemonogatari which can be solved by answering with facts from an official source, then please ask that question here.

Please don't post in this thread unless you are asking a question or answering one. Please remember that it only takes 1 person to answer a question. And don't speculate! You can only reply with cold, hard, merciliessly unforgivable facts. If you have to speculate, then please just tell the querrant that no answer is known, but here are some facts that might help him make up his own mind.

Whats Bakemonogatari really about?
The above post (and the replies) has now been moved to the Bakemonogatari generic discussion (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=65733)

[monir]

Is anyone aware of any schedule changes for the Web Episodes? As far as I know, they will appear on Friday (Eastern Time) at the usual time. So episode 13 should air next week.

[sirn]

Is anyone aware of any schedule changes for the Web Episodes? As far as I know, they will appear on Friday (Eastern Time) at the usual time. So episode 13 should air next week.

The schedule is not yet announced. From the official website (http://www.bakemonogatari.com/info/):

09/09/25
Regarding the episode distribution on the official site

"Tsubasa Cat Part Three" ~ "Part Five" will be distributed on the official website.
Further informations will be post here in a few days.

Please look forward to it.

[monir]

Thanks Sirn! That clears things up. I hope they don't rush. We don't want another repeat of episode 10 for all of its intent and purpose.

[kenshin-dono]

i really gotta get back tow watching these. I lost interest because of the animation quality but i should at least see how the story ends. Were any subbers going to do the web episodes?

tnx for the info on the shaft releases. This shinbo guys a douche. I know i should give the other stuff a chance but i really dont like supporting a company with practices like that

[Raiga]

i really gotta get back tow watching these. I lost interest because of the animation quality but i should at least see how the story ends. Were any subbers going to do the web episodes?

tnx for the info on the shaft releases. This shinbo guys a douche. I know i should give the other stuff a chance but i really dont like supporting a company with practices like that

You make it sound like they're screwing up on purpose. Bad scheduling is certainly not admirable, but neither is it intentional nor malicious. They're not doing this just to be jerks to the fans (unlike what happened with Haruhi...).

[zato_1one]

i really dont like supporting a company with practices like that

Do you mean you also buy anime DVD/Blu-ray from Japan?

[shaolinx]

Anyone know how much of the novel the animd covered? I am jsut hoping they have enough material for another season of this show :D

[sirn]

The conversation above should be continue in Generic Discussion (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=65733&page=76) thread. *points to the first post*

Anyone know how much of the novel the animd covered? I am jsut hoping they have enough material for another season of this show :D

Bakemonogatari anime only covers two of Bakemonogatari books:
- Bakemonogatari 1 (Hitagi Crab, Mayoi Snail, Suruga Monkey)
- Bakemonogatari 2 (Nadeko Snake, Tsubasa Cat)

There're three more books, in case if they want to do the second season:
- Kizumonogatari (prequel—Koyomi Vamp)
- Nisemonogatari 1 (sequel—Karen Bee)
- Nisemonogatari 2 (sequel—Tsukihi Phoenix)

...and two more books are planned:
- Nekomonogatari (likely a prequel—Tsubasa Family)
- Kabukuminogatari (likely a sequel—Mayoi Jiansi)

[shaolinx]

The conversation above should be continue in Generic Discussion (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=65733&page=76) thread. *points to the first post*



Bakemonogatari anime only covers two of Bakemonogatari books:
- Bakemonogatari 1 (Hitagi Crab, Mayoi Snail, Suruga Monkey)
- Bakemonogatari 2 (Nadeko Snake, Tsubasa Cat)

There're three more books, in case if they want to do the second season:
- Kizumonogatari (prequel—Koyomi Vamp)
- Nisemonogatari 1 (sequel—Karen Bee)
- Nisemonogatari 2 (sequel—Tsukihi Phoenix)

...and two more books are planned:
- Nekomonogatari (likely a prequel—Tsubasa Family)
- Kabukuminogatari (likely a sequel—Mayoi Jiansi)

Great, thanks for info.

Here I thought the novel has ended, it still has 2 more books to go.

Basically each book covers another oddity, except for the prequel(which sounds very interesting). Though, I am afraid that any series that introduces new characters every arc tends to lose its novelty very quickly.

[Pellissier]

Yet a reminder again. Guys, this isn't a discussion thread. It is meant for simple questions and answers. Straight, direct.

The recent discussion about how getting a joke in japanese has been moved into the generic discussion thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=65733&page=76).

[Clarste]

Basically each book covers another oddity, except for the prequel(which sounds very interesting). Though, I am afraid that any series that introduces new characters every arc tends to lose its novelty very quickly.

If you pay attention to the titles, it looks like there will be no more characters and future arcs focus on characters we already know (including his sisters, who haven't got much development yet).

[DJ Trouble]

There are at least three different sub versions, aren't there? Whose sub is the best to watch?

[zato_1one]

There are at least three different sub versions, aren't there? Whose sub is the best to watch?

Judge it for yourself.

http://ji-hi.net/bakemonogatari/index.html

But only gg can catch up to latest episode. I hope someone will sub the BD version.

[epl]

Judge it for yourself.

http://ji-hi.net/bakemonogatari/index.html

But only gg can catch up to latest episode. I hope someone will sub the BD version.

From last time I heard, gg is gonna do the BD, but that could be on hold since they are playing Aion. THORA is also doing the BD, but this could be a joint w/ gg. Also, it may take longer now if subbers choose to do the second audio/commentary track written by Nishio Ishino where cast members comments whats going on as character.

There are at least three different sub versions, aren't there? Whose sub is the best to watch?

I would go with bluray when it comes out, if it is done by a good group. If you want to watch it now, I would go with gg, but only problem is that the first few gg did not subbed the flashing text. So qIIq is a go alternative for the first few.

[kenshin-dono]

You make it sound like they're screwing up on purpose. Bad scheduling is certainly not admirable, but neither is it intentional nor malicious. They're not doing this just to be jerks to the fans (unlike what happened with Haruhi...).

they shouldn't take on so many projects if they cant handle them. Its entirely their fault.

Do you mean you also buy anime DVD/Blu-ray from Japan?

nope, but the american companies pay licencing fees to those companies to bring them over there. Doesn't hurt them at the time but if enough people dont buy releases from that company, the american releases will probably stop getting stuff from those studios.

to keep it still on topic, have any of the groups announced plans to sub the web episodes? is that even possible? Not sure how theyd capture the video...

[epl]

they shouldn't take on so many projects if they cant handle them. Its entirely their fault.



nope, but the american companies pay licencing fees to those companies to bring them over there. Doesn't hurt them at the time but if enough people dont buy releases from that company, the american releases will probably stop getting stuff from those studios.

to keep it still on topic, have any of the groups announced plans to sub the web episodes? is that even possible? Not sure how theyd capture the video...

No group has announced publicly. Last time I check, gg says that it depends on the quality. For capturing it, it will most likely be possible that it can be done, unless they create some new player that cannot be captured.

[Raiga]

they shouldn't take on so many projects if they cant handle them. Its entirely their fault.

I never said it wasn't their own mistake, I just take issue with the way you act as if they're jerks who are doing it intentionally. If they didn't care about the quality of the series, they wouldn't have extended it to 15 episodes in the first place. Yeah, they screwed up, and no, that's not a good thing, but that doesn't make Shinbou a "douche" as you so eloquently put it, nor are production botches "company practices."

[Vexx]

What I find annoying is that Shinbo keeps being treated like a cavalry hero when it seems that he's always standing around a disaster mode situation... when that happens in engineering circles, we start noticing that the "hero" often creates the disasters they fix. Unconsciously... but they love the "hero mode" and they aren't doing risk mitigation.

All I can say is that "thank the gods" they have always fixed it for the DVDs.

[Orophin]

Bakemonogatari anime only covers two of Bakemonogatari books:
- Bakemonogatari 1 (Hitagi Crab, Mayoi Snail, Suruga Monkey)
- Bakemonogatari 2 (Nadeko Snake, Tsubasa Cat)

There're three more books, in case if they want to do the second season:
- Kizumonogatari (prequel—Koyomi Vamp)
- Nisemonogatari 1 (sequel—Karen Bee)
- Nisemonogatari 2 (sequel—Tsukihi Phoenix)

...and two more books are planned:
- Nekomonogatari (likely a prequel—Tsubasa Family)
- Kabukuminogatari (likely a sequel—Mayoi Jiansi)
How long are the other books? The first two novels had more than 400 pages which is rather big for a light novel.

[sirn]

How long are the other books? The first two novels had more than 400 pages which is rather big for a light novel.

Bakemonogatari 1 - 443 pages - 3 stories, 8+9+9 chapters
Bakemonogatari 2 - 399 pages - 2 stories, 7+8 chapters
Kizumonogatari - 355 pages - 1 story, 18 chapters
Nisemonogatari 1 - 319 pages - 1 story, 12 chapters
Nisemonogatari 2 - 321 pages - 1 story, 12 chapters

What I find annoying is that Shinbo keeps being treated like a cavalry hero when it seems that he's always standing around a disaster mode situation...
Rumor says Shinbo has record of delivery the broadcast tape five minutes before the broadcast start with SoulTaker, so... :rolleyes: Directors that can't control the schedule isn't all that uncommon in the industry, Anno Hideaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideaki_Anno) is also famous for being absolutely sucked at schedule management.

Even though, in Bakemonogatari case, I don't think blame everything on him is the right thing; the studio and director signed a contract, production side (Aniplex for this, King Records for SZS) find the timeslot to broadcast, and when everything is settled and collision occurs, they can't just go "Hey, we can't do it in this season. Please cancel the timeslot." They're not that big.

[suka-pon-tan]

I got my BRD of volume 1. It has the character audio commentary on both episodes by Hitagi and Tsubasa, scripted by Nisio Ishin himself. And those were hilarious, I felt like a watchin new episode.That the character commentary is worth the price of the Disc alone.

My question is are people gonna sub those? and make thread about it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceO9v3BhrTY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlF-IGBHkM

[zato_1one]

I feel jealous of those who can listen to Japanese. :upset:

[Tubby]

I really hope a group will sub the audio commentary.

[Miyuki-ism]

Yea, that and Atogatari.

[Clarste]

Are there any visual differences? Fixed scenes and better animation or the like? I remember people anticipating that.

[Pellissier]

Are there any visual differences? Fixed scenes and better animation or the like? I remember people anticipating that.
Yes, the animation is more fluid, more detailed. The random coloured frames were basically all replaced by actual animation. They changed some little things here and there. I've watched portions of episode 1 and episode 2 and one can definitely tell the difference. The ending in both episodes is the one we're used to (the big white representation of Hitagi in the background), which means it wasn't ready when the anime started. Also, in episode 2 the ending is the full 1:30 version, it starts after the episode ends, and not while the episode is ending like in the tv broadcasting.

Here (http://blog.goo.ne.jp/sweet-lovely/e/b28aff2ecc80181b9597fa47eac5fc56) some screen caps of the comparison from a japanese blog.

[Velsy]

Yes, the animation is more fluid, more detailed. The random coloured frames were basically all replaced by actual animation. They changed some little things here and there. I've watched portions of episode 1 and episode 2 and one can definitely tell the difference. The ending in both episodes is the one we're used to (the big white representation of Hitagi in the background), which means it wasn't ready when the anime started. Also, in episode 2 the ending is the full 1:30 version, it starts after the episode ends, and not while the episode is ending like in the tv broadcasting.

Here (http://blog.goo.ne.jp/sweet-lovely/e/b28aff2ecc80181b9597fa47eac5fc56) some screen caps of the comparison from a japanese blog.

Just to make sure I following this right. It means the dvd release has like improved quality compared to what we have now? the DVD will be like a v2

Does it mean later on down the track we can just aquire the dvd version if we want the better quality episodes.

[Clarste]

The DVDs always have higher quality for almost every series. And yes, you can buy them later if you like (or otherwise acquire them). They don't come with subtitles though.

[Velsy]

I was just thinking

Seeing these last 3 episodes were going to be part of classrep-chans arc. Does that mean we wont be seeing anything of Shinobu ? . I was really interested to see how she came to be, what happened in the summer break with Arararagi. By watching the first OP, It appears she was once older than she is now and they had a fight. Have no idea how she became a chibi. Only hint you get I think is when Arararagi saids something early in the series of her being a broken down vampire or such. Could we expect to see it in OVA's/specials ? or maybe in a second series O_O

[Miyuki-ism]

That would be Kizumonogatari, the prequel to Bake.

[JokerD]

Can someone spoil what happens in Tsubasa Neko for me, I really want to watch it but end of the month for 13 and unknown dates for 14 and 15 are killing me.
Thanks.

[ickem]

Can someone spoil what happens in Tsubasa Neko for me, I really want to watch it but end of the month for 13 and unknown dates for 14 and 15 are killing me.
Thanks.

You should go to the light novel thread if you want spoilers.

[Velsy]

That would be Kizumonogatari, the prequel to Bake.

is that anime, or will I have to read manga ?

[Clarste]

It's a light novel.

[Miyuki-ism]

Yea, so far the 'monogatari' series has 5 novels already out and 2 more on the way for 2010. (Hopefully)

Bakemonogatari (2 novels), Kizumonogatari - Prequel (1 novel), Nisemonogatari - Sequel (2 novels)

And planned for next year, Kabukimonogatari and Nekomonogatari.

Oh, and unless you can read Japanese, you're going to have to wait for someone to translate them.

[Velsy]

awww, seeing I cant read japanese. I doubt I'd get to know what happens.

Its is safe to assume that Shinobu-chan is a vampire that can be reborn/reincarinated ?

[Miyuki-ism]

Uh, I don't think so.

If you really want to know you can ask in the light novel thread.

All I really know is the Shinobu in 500 years old and a curse or spell or something got placed on her after her events with Araragi that made her a loli.

[Raiga]

Somebody teach me how to use that curse.

[Miyuki-ism]

Did the curse also make her like doughnuts? XD

[CrazyPerson]

Do any of the current blu-ray subs by groups out now contain any extra material not within the TV broadcast? (With the exception of the obvious fix to episode 10.)

For example have Material such as the commentary (subbed or not?) and extra scenes (filling in the black screen fills) been added?

[ellifeedn]

In episode 11, why did Nadeko panic and run away when Tsubasa appeared?

[Haak]

A question about episode 10.

Araragi, in the end, is sorry for trying to save the boy who put the curse on Nadeko. Why is that?

[Raiga]

In episode 11, why did Nadeko panic and run away when Tsubasa appeared?
Embarrassed/shy around one of her onii-chan's peers? Thought she was his girlfriend? I'm not really sure myself but I figured it was something like that.
A question about episode 10.

Araragi, in the end, is sorry for trying to save the boy who put the curse on Nadeko. Why is that?

Basically what Suruga was saying: remember who you're trying to save. Basically, he can't save everybody, his original purpose was to help Nadeko, and that boy was the one who cursed her in the first place. As for that, there was a whole discussion in another thread, I forget which one, over whether he deserved it or not...

[Haak]

Basically what Suruga was saying: remember who you're trying to save. Basically, he can't save everybody, his original purpose was to help Nadeko, and that boy was the one who cursed her in the first place. As for that, there was a whole discussion in another thread, I forget which one, over whether he deserved it or not...

So in the end, he could only save one or the other. How cruel.

[omimon]

So in the end, he could only save one or the other. How cruel.

No, he wanted to save them both but he was only able to save Nadeko. It is not like he had to choose between the two, its it either both, one or none.

[Zetsubo]

So in the end, he could only save one or the other. How cruel.

That was Araragi's fault.

[Haak]

No, he wanted to save them both but he was only able to save Nadeko. It is not like he had to choose between the two, its it either both, one or none.

That was Araragi's fault.

Okay, now I'm even more confused.

[Zetsubo]

Okay, now I'm even more confused.
Watch the episodes again... try getting a hold of Koharubi subs for that one.

Araragi made an error that forced events to turn out the way they did.

[ellifeedn]

How is it known the boy was killed? It could have been the girl.

[DMC3alpha]

im curious... so after bakemonogatari series ends which one will come after? is it going to be kizumonogatari or nisemonogatari (are they gonna do it in chronological order?)

[Azuma Denton]

im curious... so after bakemonogatari series ends which one will come after? is it going to be kizumonogatari or nisemonogatari (are they gonna do it in chronological order?)
2nd season is not confirmed until now...

[Miyuki-ism]

If I had to take a guess, it'd be Kizumonogatari.

[Haak]

What was all the radio talk about in episode 13? Did it actually have some significance?

[freakonboard]

^
The novel author is well known for using wordplay.

[Haak]

Oh okay, so he just wanted to show off his mad skillz. A bit dissapointed now. I thought it had some hidden meaning to actual story.

[Raiga]

Oh okay, so he just wanted to show off his mad skillz. A bit dissapointed now. I thought it had some hidden meaning to actual story.

You never know...

(I actually don't know if it does, but seemingly irrelevant conversations have turned out to have significance in past arcs. We'll have to wait and see)

[Miyuki-ism]

I really like those conversations, It's one of the things I like about Bake. They go off on an tangent sometimes without even me realizing it until Koyomi or someone lese points it out.

[Zetsubo]

Oh okay, so he just wanted to show off his mad skillz. A bit dissapointed now. I thought it had some hidden meaning to actual story.

Not really... any good piece of literature ought to have something of a "pointless conversation".

It brings realisim to the work.

If you think about real life not every conversation you have is about "specifics".

Some of your conversations has to be about why you think you cant fit eleven clowns into the boot of a compact car.

Small talk... is something that makes good literature snappy, when it is done properly.

You guys are just thinking too hard.

[freakonboard]

Oh okay, so he just wanted to show off his mad skillz. A bit dissapointed now. I thought it had some hidden meaning to actual story.

One can think optimistically like the wordplays made the novel more unique. :heh:

You know, the title of the novel (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2675152&postcount=277) is also somewhat interesting. :)

[Bangirasu]

Is known the day of emission of episode 14?

[freakonboard]

^
The broadcast date is still TBA.

[Miyuki-ism]

Shouldn't it be this month? I think that was just a rumour.

But knowing SHAFT we'll be waiting until December.

[CELESTRIAL-HARDRAVE]

I read through all the pages and this one didnt seem to be covered.

The random cuts that cut away to saying " BLACK " " RED " and " WHITE " what do these mean exactly ? i figuered they were different from the " missing scene " cut aways and actully ment something. the closest thing i could come to conculsion was it represented time passing or some what. Black is a short amount of time, while red is a scene jump or some what. Am i on the right track ? :p

[acejem]

I think those were actual cut scenes that will get fixed up on the DVDs.

[Raiga]

Nah, not all of them, especially considering most lasted for a split second; hardly worth inserting the extra two or three frames of animation. Some, perhaps, will be replaced on DVD, but I think the majority were just by way of scene transition. SHAFT-isms, essentially.

If you want to try to find a pattern, though, go ahead. There might actually be one, who knows?

[freakonboard]

Yep, some of those aka/kuro cards are intended, as shown by DVDs/BDs.
Shaft/Shinbo's works usually have an avant-garde approach to presenting.

[neshru]

The random cuts that cut away to saying " BLACK " " RED " and " WHITE " what do these mean exactly ? i figuered they were different from the " missing scene " cut aways and actully ment something. the closest thing i could come to conculsion was it represented time passing or some what. Black is a short amount of time, while red is a scene jump or some what. Am i on the right track ? :p
That could be so, but it could be just that people at SHAFT love to be random, as you can see from some of their previous works too.

[CELESTRIAL-HARDRAVE]

Nah, not all of them, especially considering most lasted for a split second; hardly worth inserting the extra two or three frames of animation. Some, perhaps, will be replaced on DVD, but I think the majority were just by way of scene transition. SHAFT-isms, essentially.

If you want to try to find a pattern, though, go ahead. There might actually be one, who knows?

its possible it could be random as SHAFT loves to do with their production, but im fairly certain theres a pattern involved, the " white " cuts as far as i remember only appeared in the more later eps ( around 9 onwards ) while " black " was extremely common and im pretty sure represents a small amount of time passing that we dont need to see, such a short convo ( pause ) then another conversation. And red was mostly when massive time gaps or scene jumps.

anyone seem to notice a pattern ? :p

[risingstar3110]

Question: I watched up to Bakemonogatari ep 11, should i start to watch ep 12, 13 now or should i wait until ep 14 out?

In short, is there a cliffhanger by the end of ep 13? Put into spoiler tag if you must

[deadlight]

Question: I watched up to Bakemonogatari ep 11, should i start to watch ep 12, 13 now or should i wait until ep 14 out?

In short, is there a cliffhanger by the end of ep 13? Put into spoiler tag if you must

Watch 12.......watch it now!
Well 13 ends in a cliffhanger.
However 12 doesn't end in a cliffhanger.

[boyinblue]

Why has episode 14's release date not been released?...can't wait!

[omimon]

Why has episode 14's release date not been released?...can't wait!

From what I heard, as of Nov 23, they haven't even finished the animation or the voice over yet. Basically, the episode is not even episode 10 level yet. Either way, SHAFT is overwhelmingly understaff and they take on too many projects. For all we know they are still doing episodes of Hidamari and Vampire Bund too which are suppose to air in a month and a half. AND they need to do the second half of the Zetsubou OVA......why must great things come with a price.....

[qwertyman]

From what I heard, as of Nov 23, they haven't even finished the animation or the voice over yet. Basically, the episode is not even episode 10 level yet. Either way, SHAFT is overwhelmingly understaff and they take on too many projects. For all we know they are still doing episodes of Hidamari and Vampire Bund too which are suppose to air in a month and a half. AND they need to do the second half of the Zetsubou OVA......why must great things come with a price.....

Don't forget the currently airing Natsu no Arashi's second season.

[stuopidget]

2nd season is not confirmed until now...

Oh, did they confirm it?

[Zetsubo]

Oh, did they confirm it?

no....................

[stuopidget]

no....................

Oh lame, since s/he said not confirmed UNTIL now, so I thought he meant it is confirmed now.

Should've said still not confirmed!

[miroku2192]

So i accidentally read like parts of kizumonogatari because i thought it was bakemonogatari (lawl) and i was wondering "dang, why did they skip this in the beginning of the anime (i've only watched 3 episodes)...maybe they'll mention it later?" until i realized that the top said "Kizumonogatari", not "bakemonogatari"...and i must say i was quite captivated by the story line...and the part i read up to was such a cliffhanger >.<!!!! And i don't know what happens next.

Anyway enough of that, my question is...will there be an anime adaption of kizumonogatari (it seems like bake was pretty popular right?), and if there will be one, when can we expect one?

If there's no anime adaption coming up anytime soon, do you think we'll be expecting a manga for the novel?

Thanks!!!
Miroku

[Vampire]

I think it's been said before and I'll say it again; a chance of having a sequel is very high. The question is when?

[miroku2192]

I think it's been said before and I'll say it again; a chance of having a sequel is very high. The question is when?

Uhh, kizumonogatari is the prequel to bakemonogatari right? So by sequel, are you referring to kizumonogatari? Or is there more to bakemonogatari that wasn't finished in these 12 episodes?

[stuopidget]

Uhh, kizumonogatari is the prequel to bakemonogatari right? So by sequel, are you referring to kizumonogatari? Or is there more to bakemonogatari that wasn't finished in these 12 episodes?

Plot sequence, Kizu --> Bake --> Nise.

Published sequence: Bake --> Kizu --> Nise.

And by 12 episodes you mean 15 episodes.

[miroku2192]

Plot sequence, Kizu --> Bake --> Nise.

Published sequence: Bake --> Kizu --> Nise.

And by 12 episodes you mean 15 episodes.

^ oh...thought the 3 extra episodes were filler/extras or something since they didn't air with the actual series/the last 2 still haven't been confirmed yet (right?).

Thanks for the time line up top though, I appreciate it.

Another quick question then, I heard that kizu was a relatively shorter book than bake, or at least a "faster read", so should we be expecting less episodes for kizu? Or perhaps a joint project showing both kizu and nise in one season (or is that being too optimistic haha). Any word on when Kizu will be slated for? Fall '10?

[Konakaga]

^ oh...thought the 3 extra episodes were filler/extras or something since they didn't air with the actual series/the last 2 still haven't been confirmed yet (right?).

Thanks for the time line up top though, I appreciate it.

Another quick question then, I heard that kizu was a relatively shorter book than bake, or at least a "faster read", so should we be expecting less episodes for kizu? Or perhaps a joint project showing both kizu and nise in one season (or is that being too optimistic haha). Any word on when Kizu will be slated for? Fall '10?

The last 3 are being aired online purely cause slot they got for the series allowed for 12 episodes instead of 15, and they weren't in a position to argue for more was my understanding. And If I'd guess if kizu is short like you say then it would be either done as an OVA or stuck with Nise for the second season. And sadly I don't think it's slated for a date yet.

[stuopidget]

Pretty sure there's a Kizu, just because there's a confirmed VA for Shinobu (wish the VA were someone else though ... ANYONE ELSE).

[Konakaga]

Pretty sure there's a Kizu, just because there's a confirmed VA for Shinobu (wish the VA were someone else though ... ANYONE ELSE).

I wouldn't say for sure, I mean someone had to make those noises for her non-talking, and appearances in this season right? :eyespin:

[ickem]

Pretty sure there's a Kizu, just because there's a confirmed VA for Shinobu (wish the VA were someone else though ... ANYONE ELSE).

The credits are for the drama cd I think. She read the chapter titles. By the way, I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion about the certain VA playing Shinobu, let alone Kissshot...

[Konakaga]

The credits are for the drama cd I think. She read the chapter titles. By the way, I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion about the certain VA playing Shinobu, let alone Kissshot...

Aren't you two being a little judgement against her?
I mean as of yet she hasn't even had a line for the character in the anime, so I am not really sure what you're judging her assumed performance off of :confused:.

[Azuma Denton]

There is a drama CD of Bakemonogatari.
It was made before anime is airing.
And Aya Hiirano is credited as "Shinobu" in the Drama CD.
Yeah, she has quite a few line there (CMIIW), but dont sure about the quality since i too havent heard the drama CD.


@stuopidget
Sorry, if my bad english has made you confused. :)

[Raiga]

I wouldn't say for sure, I mean someone had to make those noises for her non-talking, and appearances in this season right? :eyespin:

I don't think Shinobu even made any non-dialogue noises. Not a single breath, groan, grunt, sigh, or mumble.

[ickem]

Aren't you two being a little judgement against her?
I mean as of yet she hasn't even had a line for the character in the anime, so I am not really sure what you're judging her assumed performance off of :confused:.

I'm judging her off of her performance from the drama cd, which may be a little unfair since there wasn't much for her to do, but it still gave us a taste of what she plans to do with the role. There's also the fact that I haven't been impressed with any the works I've seen her in up til now. I find her adequate in the roles she has done, but choosing her for Shinobu and especially Kisshot fills me with unease.

[omimon]

I'm judging her off of her performance from the drama cd, which may be a little unfair since there wasn't much for her to do, but it still gave us a taste of what she plans to do with the role. There's also the fact that I haven't been impressed with any the works I've seen her in up til now. I find her adequate in the roles she has done, but choosing her for Shinobu and especially Kisshot fills me with unease.

Yea, I argee, like you said the stuff she did in the drama cd wasn't really a lot but it doesn't necessary fit the image I got of Shinobu. I mean in the cd she sounds like a child that talks like a 4 year old, when she should a child talking like an adult.

[stuopidget]

There is a drama CD of Bakemonogatari.
It was made before anime is airing.
And Aya Hiirano is credited as "Shinobu" in the Drama CD.
Yeah, she has quite a few line there (CMIIW), but dont sure about the quality since i too havent heard the drama CD.


@stuopidget
Sorry, if my bad english has made you confused. :)

NP =).

I actually didn't know there's a Drama CD.

In any case, hope there maybe some new announcements on December 7th.

[karice67]

I'm judging her off of her performance from the drama cd, which may be a little unfair since there wasn't much for her to do, but it still gave us a taste of what she plans to do with the role. What she's doing in the drama CD is probably what the director/sound director of the drama CD wanted. (reference (http://atemonai.com/blog/what-sound-directors-do/#more-2512), pts 8-13) I don't know how much input she has into the role, but chances are, not much.

That said, I haven't read the novels yet, so I haven't created a voice for her in my own mind yet...

[mammothb]

this is probably asked already, but why are there so many unnumbered cuts? the red black and white ones and the cuts due to circumstances, is it part of a humour or something? cuz i really don get it when i first watched the series.

also there is a bunch of messages that gets flashed with the beat of the music, but it just goes too fast for normal people to read and understand(like me), does it have any significant importance to the storyline? cuz if not i will not pause my video to read each message:/

[Azuma Denton]

this is probably asked already, but why are there so many unnumbered cuts? the red black and white ones and the cuts due to circumstances, is it part of a humour or something? cuz i really don get it when i first watched the series.

also there is a bunch of messages that gets flashed with the beat of the music, but it just goes too fast for normal people to read and understand(like me), does it have any significant importance to the storyline? cuz if not i will not pause my video to read each message:/
those red, and black cuts serves for two things...
1. those are replacement for unfinished scene that will be fixed in BD/DVD release
2. Shinbo's style of scene transision...


for those flash texts, it is the original line of novel, serves as additional information about the event on the episode...
for more information visit
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=85117

[mammothb]

is there any site or does anyone know what's the total number of episode of the series and when the dvd will be released?

[Azuma Denton]

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=86974
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=85076

[Bombo]

It there manga for this series ?

[iKuji]

I don't think so, but there is a Light Novel.

[se7a]

There is a manga (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=49870).

[Azuma Denton]

There is a manga (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=49870).
Nope that is not manga...
That is its light novel.
Just go to the baka-tsuki and you can check that it's light novel.

And why was it registered as a manga?? O.o

[mammothb]

unless someone just changed it, when i see it, under type, it said "novel"

[tz2012]

any1 know which BD release is higher quality? coalgirls or qIIq-THORA? or they about the same?

[dubianyifan]

someone may compare bakemonogatari to EVA. I have to say that they are both kind of some stream of consciousness. maybe the two directors are the same style. what do you think?

[acejem]

any1 know which BD release is higher quality? coalgirls or qIIq-THORA? or they about the same?

Coalgirls is 720p whilst THORA is often 1080p. However, THORA episodes are absolute space hogs. Each Bakemonogatari 1080p episode is around 1gb. Quality is insane though.

[Miyuki-ism]

CoalGirls are doing 1080p as well, but they don't do well at getting them up in time.

[Dextro]

Coalgirls is 720p whilst THORA is often 1080p. However, THORA episodes are absolute space hogs. Each Bakemonogatari 1080p episode is around 1gb. Quality is insane though.

Like Miyuki-ism said Coalgirls are doing 1080p as well and their bitrates are insanely high. My 2,66GHz Core 2 Duo chokes on some SSA-heavy scenes on their releases!

And 1gb+ is par for course in 1080p, you won't get much lower without losing quality in a very visible way. Unless you have a 1080p display I would say to stick with 720p since you won't really notice the difference if you downscale during playback.

[Miyuki-ism]

Well I have a 720p monitor anyways. Although I really want a 1080p one....

[risingstar3110]

Hmm...so... is ep 14 the final episode yet....?

I'm waiting for all episodes to be released (or at least to be weekly released) before start watching again..

[Azuma Denton]

Hmm...so... is ep 14 the final episode yet....?

I'm waiting for all episodes to be released (or at least to be weekly released) before start watching again..
Nope...
Eps 15 is the last...

[Malkuth]

Hmm...so... is ep 14 the final episode yet....?

I'm waiting for all episodes to be released (or at least to be weekly released) before start watching again..

No, 14 is NOT the last episode, there will be one more sometime before the last DVD release (end of March, if I am not mistaken).

Now to my question, for 14 are there going to be any subs? Has gg broken up again (it happen one or two times a year).

[vaden]

Now to my question, for 14 are there going to be any subs? Has gg broken up again (it happen one or two times a year).
The remaining gg staff have said (http://loveisdongs.ath.cx/) that they'll try to finish their ongoing series, including Bakemonogatari, without the group leader.

[Konakaga]

Hmm...so... is ep 14 the final episode yet....?

I'm waiting for all episodes to be released (or at least to be weekly released) before start watching again..

No, it's the semi-final episode; 15 will be the final episode and probably air around the time last Blu-ray/DVD is released.

Edit: I didn't notice the next page and people answering this D:.

[risingstar3110]

End of March? Eh it will be long then....

Anyway, thank a lots everyone ^^