Ladies versus Butlers! [Archive]

NeoSam

2009-09-08, 03:56

The shounen(boy's) light novel series Ladies versus Butlers! by Kouzuki Tsukasa (author) and Munyuu (illustrator) will be getting an anime adaptation.

Official site:
http://www.ladies-vs-butlers.com/

れでぃ×ばと!
Ladies versus Butlers!

少年向け小説(ライトノベル).
Shounen light novel series (light novel series aimed at boys).

The light novel series is published under the shounen light novel label Dengeki Bunko (http://www.comipedia.com/light-novel-label/dengeki-bunko).
Currently there are 9 volumes released of this light novel series.

Covers:

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From MangaUpdates:

Hino Akiharu lost his parents when he was an elementary student and was taken in by his uncle's family. One day, he sees on the news about the newly-established Hakureiryou Gakuin, a school which was re-built from an elite girls' school. He decides to take the exam for that school and succeeds in entering the House Management Department (the place to train maids & butlers). He wants to become a butler, although his appearance scares the ladies. Akiharu has a sinister look in his eyes, a scar on his right eyebrow, and bristled up hair. Add 3 piercings on his ears and he indeed has a typical bad boy look on him.

He meets his "nemesis" at that school, Saikyou Tomomi, a girl with a two faced character who traumatized him many times since they were kids. Another girl named Cernia Iori FlameHeart chases after him because of his looks and calls him suspicious. Still, Akiharu starts finding his feet at the school and his relationships with the girls also get better...

Author: Kouzuki Tsukasa
Illustrator: Munyuu

A seinen manga adaptation is serialized in the seinen manga magazine Dengeki Moeoh (http://www.comipedia.com/magazine/dengeki-moeoh). The manga started serialization in the June 2008 issue of the magazine (released on April 26th, 2008).

Genre: Shounen, Comedy

Kamy

2009-09-08, 11:12

More news :
Staff
Director: Ohtsuki Atsushi ("Kanokon")
Character Designer: Takami Akio ("Kanokon")
Series Organizer: Tamai ☆ Tsuyoshi ("Inukami!", "Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu")
Production Studio: XEBEC

Cast
Hino Akiharu: Okitsu Kazuyuki
Saikyo Tomomi: Kawasumi Ayako
Sernia: Nakahara Mai
Shikikagami Saori: Koshimizu Ami
Daichi Kaoru: Kugimiya Rie
Pina: Goto Mai
Ousawa Mimina: Hidaka Rina
Tenjoji Kaede: Ise Mariya
Mikan: Sakuma Kumi

NeoSam

2009-09-08, 11:35

I added the covers of the shounen light novel series Ladies versus Butlers! to the first post of this thread...

Duo Maxwell

2009-09-08, 12:45

I see a lot of "no-pan" ladies.

blitz1/2

2009-09-08, 17:56

Mizuno

2009-09-09, 08:03

I just looked at some of the raw, I think I understand now why they have Kanokon's director doing this...

musume_no_hoshi

2009-09-09, 15:57

The title is misleading, I thought this was aimed at girls. You know...fujoshis do LOVES butlers. Well nevermind.

It's not aimed at me, so 'no comment' from me.

Shinova

2009-09-11, 20:15

The manga is up on some site and the story's quite cute. Drill girl (lol) is a delicious tsundere.

Avisch

2009-09-12, 10:54

Goody. Random cute-ness is always appreciated.

Why am I not surprised to see Ayako and Xebec together?

Same reason half of Zetsubo-Sensei's VAs were Maria+Holic

blitz1/2

2009-09-12, 11:11

Goody. Random cute-ness is always appreciated.

Same reason half of Zetsubo-Sensei's VAs were Maria+Holic

And that reason is....?

I haven't watched Maria+Holic, so have no idea who the seiyuus are in that show.

Saymon

2009-09-12, 13:47

it seems good but xebec...

kramerica

2009-09-12, 13:53

For a sec I thought it looked like some sort of battle royale between epic tsunderes vs combat butlers, but I can only dream of something like that ever happening.

Kafriel

2009-09-12, 14:33

it seems good but xebec...

...means a lot of fanservice? :P
It says it's shounen but I can only see it as comedy/romance/drama...I mean how exactly is the plot going to unfold?

Midonin

2009-09-12, 14:39

"Shounen" is a demographic, not a genre. It can be both.

Kafriel

2009-09-12, 14:42

Thanks for clarifying that, it got shounen as a genre in the OP :)

Shadow Kira01

2009-09-13, 10:13

NeoSam

2009-09-13, 12:58

I don't think this anime will turn out to be a shounen one. Its most likely the crossover of Hayate no Gotoku! (http://myanimelist.net/anime/2026/Hayate_the_Combat_Butler!) and some ecchi love comedy.

Its a light novel series aimed at teenage boys, so yes its a shounen(boy's) light novel series.

Lummie

2009-09-13, 16:39

If the anime is gonna be like "They Are My Noble Masters" , then i'm definitely sold.

-Sho-

2009-09-13, 17:55

The first cover remember me a card in the game "Dengeki Gakuen RPG" .
Well , seems a very ecchi anime .
"Genre = Shounen" . I though it was Shojo .
No pics for the guy ? seems a yakuza's like .

Oh , and yeah , you add Kanokon's director , Character designer too then here it comes ECCHIS !

Midonin

2009-09-13, 17:58

"Genre = Shounen"
Again, that's not a genre.

Avisch

2009-09-13, 18:09

And that reason is....?

I haven't watched Maria+Holic, so have no idea who the seiyuus are in that show.

Oh. Well Maria+Holic and Zetsubou Sensei are both by SHAFT, and since the seiyu were (mostly) the same for those series I assume it's gotta be because it's convenient for the studios to have people they've worked with before.

So I assume the same is for XEBEC and Kawasumi Ayako.

NeoSam

2009-09-14, 13:51

"Genre = Shounen" . I though it was Shojo .

As I said before Ladies versus Butlers! is a light novel series aimed at boys. Dengeki Bunko is a label aimed at a teenage boys/young adult males (the light novel series is published under this shounen label), and is not aimed at girls.

Mizuno

2009-09-15, 00:42

It's the typical harem with lots of girls so it's definitely shounen. Too many big breasted women scares me though. Even a tsundere will lose her charms if she packs a couple of melons... I think there must be a formula to calculate something like this, I suppose Maid Guy can tell us. :heh:

NeoSam

2009-10-04, 12:58

The anime will start broadcast on January 5th, 2010.

Midonin

2009-11-20, 09:41

Opening and ending theme artists confirmed. Lantis provides once again.

The OP is "LOVE x HEAVEN" by Mai Nakahara, Ayako Kawasumi, Rie Kugimiya and Ami Koshimizu.
The ED, still untitled, is by Mai Nakahara.

Mizuno

2009-11-21, 07:46

Not really a fan of the art style they used for Kanokon the anime, the trailer didn't really impress either. I'll give it 2-3 episodes when it comes around before I decide whether to drop it.

Lummie

2009-11-21, 08:02

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The trailer

Kakkou

2009-11-21, 08:04

hinakatbklyn

2009-11-21, 22:23

It looks like the trailer showed almost every fanservice scene in the series. I never had a problem with fanservice, but even though I saw the Kanokon series somehow the fanservice there went overboard even for me.

Since Kanokon and Ladies vs butlers are both Xebec regardless of who the voices are, I sense bad omen (but I might be thinking too far ahead). Right now the art and character designs from the trailer is above average which is fine with me. I still plan on checking this series out.

Midonin

2009-11-24, 21:18

Now we have some anime-style promotional art.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ir3vax_th.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/2ir3vax.jpg)
Who the main players are: Akiharu (in the suit), Selnia (drill hair), Tomomi (short brown hair), Sanae (maid) and Kaoru (other one in a suit).

CrowKenobi

2009-12-05, 13:11

-Sho-

2009-12-05, 13:56

Ok , yeah , art design the same as Kanokon so great design .
But omg , so Fanservice powaaa ...
Japan's author really like Butlers , Princess , Rich people and Cie lol
As usual , the maid , the school girl , the loli (huh) .
(Mostly the princess is a blond girl though )

SquirrelLuvsPnut

2009-12-05, 16:10

I think they should have spent their money on making this into a game. Not the "points-by-girls-you-bed" kind of game, but the Smash Brothers kind.

Midonin

2009-12-09, 18:29

The official website has gone into its final form. No info on the title of the ED theme yet, but we can now get a good look at the character designs, as well as a finalized airtime for the show.

22:00 (or 10:00 PM Japan Time) on AT-X on Tuesday, Jan. 5th.

shaolinx

2009-12-09, 18:58

Hmm, not fond of the chara designs, but I'll give it a shot. I'm in a somewhat love hate viewpoint of XEBEC (though it tends to lean towards hate). Maybe it'll prove to be entertaining. Btw, I keep getting the urge to eat croissants whenever I see that twin drills girl.

those are one of the biggest... hair croissant i have ever seen.

I have to agree, the char design does look pretty unappealing, especially with the way how almost every female has disproportionate big bewbs. Ah well, its a harem so I will give it a chance.

Midonin

2009-12-10, 11:41

There we go, got the ED title. "my starry boy", by Mai Nakahara.

longshot

2009-12-16, 15:51

according to sources about the storyline it could be( or may as well be) a harem anime because the school that it takes place in WAS a all girls school and just recently just opened up as co-ed

male population:5

yeah goodluck guys

Bonta Kun

2009-12-19, 00:24

lol when you see the "oh-my-hand-grabbed-her-boob-while-falling-on-top-of-her" scene, you know you can't expect much from it but you know its good for some s**** and giggles:heh:

I had only found out about this in winter anime thread, premise appealed to me and just saw the trailer just now.
I think I'll probably check it out cause....well the inner ecchi wants to and I can't argue with him:p

Johnny

2009-12-20, 02:28

This one might actually pass Kanokon in terms of service, service. The one blond's hair reminds me of that other blond on the student council from Mamoru-kun...

CrowKenobi

2009-12-26, 18:32

New magazine scan:

http://g.imagehost.org/t/0720/cc42bcf5396093e022c5c9ff4f877aca.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0720/cc42bcf5396093e022c5c9ff4f877aca)

And I think I'll drop it at this point... I just can't stand how the characters are designed... *sigh*

blitz1/2

2009-12-26, 18:49

Nukerjsr

2009-12-26, 19:27

I so want to check out this anime, but the similar character designs from Kanokon is sooo wanting me to not to bother... *sigh*

Has Akio Takami ever heard of noses???

Edit: magazine scan:

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0666/a727dcb525b863d3c866eaa741621724.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0666/a727dcb525b863d3c866eaa741621724)

QFT. I can't remember how people felt towards Kanokon's art style, I think people were divided, but I find it to be really off-putting. Everyone looks really shiny, even by anime terms.

animeboy12

2009-12-27, 13:26

Westlo

2009-12-27, 13:39

And I think I'll drop it at this point... I just can't stand how the characters are designed... *sigh*

Drill girl just looks stupid....

Nukerjsr

2009-12-27, 13:45

noses? that's the big compliant? noses?:rolleyes: the least noticeable feature on the majority of anime characters. Anyway I have no beef with Akio Tammi's character design, may not be the best but certainly not the worst, or anywhere close plus at the very least it's different.

As for the anime. It sounds like hayate no gotoku meets toradora, so maybe it'll be interesting

Wow, that is a pretty spot-on statement for premise. Luckily, both of those shows are great so it sounds like I may give this more leverage than planned.

That guy's art style is just plain weird in general. While it's a bit more realistic when it comes to the proportions with the breasts and waist, the rest is extremely anime like. While anime characters in general have small noses, these girls have no noses at all. Not to mention that they are really shiny looking and their skin looks remarkably pink as well.

animeboy12

2009-12-27, 14:15

I actually like the drill haired girl, but then again I have a spot for girls with that hairstyle. I just hope the they excuted on her well because the tsundere arch-type is really is to mess up

That guy's art style is just plain weird in general. While it's a bit more realistic when it comes to the proportions with the breasts and waist, the rest is extremely anime like. While anime characters in general have small noses, these girls have no noses at all. Not to mention that they are really shiny looking and their skin looks remarkably pink as well.

Part of me thinks it's more of the "big boobs" part that have poeple foaming at the mouth rather than just his art style but yes very different from what we usually get in good and bad ways. Yes he don't tend to draw females with believable (don't like the term realistic) proportions but as facial feature go... well he case isn't an anomaly

longshot

2009-12-28, 00:13

i've been reading the raws over and over again and even though i don't speak or read japanese i wonder how come i never noticed they barely have drawn in noses until now when somepeople point it out

Lummie

2009-12-29, 17:11

First episode is released although it's still raw.

I actually feel sorry for the guy... getting to meet the trauma of his childhood on the same school.

longshot

2009-12-29, 17:22

First episode is released although it's still raw.

I actually feel sorry for the guy... getting to meet the trauma of his childhood on the same school.

you have to admit she was surprising at least to see that side of her

Lummie

2009-12-29, 17:58

you have to admit she was surprising at least to see that side of her

That guy has bad luck if you ask me. The two female leads are a croissant and a sadist and he'll likely will be forced to choose between either one of them. Poor guy :(

longshot

2009-12-29, 18:45

That guy has bad luck if you ask me. The two female leads are a croissant and a sadist and he'll likely will be forced to choose between either one of them. Poor guy :(

well he still has...umm who were they again??...umm oh yeah the gent bender,the loli, the white haired girl, or the clumsy maid how bad can they be??

Lummie

2009-12-29, 18:52

^ Those likely won't have a chance with the croissant and the sadist around.

Seravy

2009-12-29, 22:43

awesome first episode. great cast & very decent art/production values. main dude seems promising; with the scar and no push over attitude, at least to desu wa who seems the typecast love interest. but there's the yan chick there to rein the dude in and keep things interesting, not to mention the supporting cast (including reverse trap room mate??).

Midonin

2009-12-29, 22:45

The version of the first episode with the one-hour special had no OP and ED, so I'll hold off until next week.

serenade_beta

2009-12-30, 20:12

Hmm... Well...

The first half made me want to run away. The Kanokon artwork doesn't exactly remind me of nice memories, and the heroine(?)'s hairstyle is... that giant drill.

The 2nd half was fairly entertaining. Liked it... except for two things involving fanservice:
1. A disgusting eros scene with the maid planting her butt and some weird SE. It seems that the original novel didn't go that far... In other words, Kanokon's wonderful staff took the liberty to add in their wonderful taste to the anime. I don't want to experience that wonderful taste in eros ever agan...
2. Yes, yes. :rolleyes: White ink across half of the screen whenever there is naked fanservice.

Though thanks to the 2nd half, I have some hopes for this anime. I look forward to what that evil childhood friend plans to do. I liked the protagonist's conversation with that twin-drill girl (when they passed each other).

...Still... This makes two anime this season that are completely fanservice. *tears*
At least this is more endurable than Chu-Bra.

......
*checks the artwork of the novel with the anime artwork*
...
How did it turn out like this...

Zwei

2009-12-30, 21:44

Ladies versus Butlers, hmm?

Dropped.

Miyuki-ism

2009-12-31, 00:24

Watched the first episode.

I was wondering where I saw this art style before, then I looked at the director etc on page one. (Kanokon) It's very interesting when I can remember similar art styles since I've only been seriously watching anime since may.

Not dropping because I'm a pervert. ^_^

longshot

2009-12-31, 03:36

i have to say the reason i'm watching this isn't because i like the fanservice its the fact the lead has a sadistic childhood friend as one of his romance options, she already proved herself in this preview episode its going to be so interesting to me

DragoonKain3

2009-12-31, 04:01

Someone took the words right out of my mouth.

<3<3<3 Tomomi-chan <3<3<3

The look of utter dread that Akiharu shown was just utterly priceless. The perfect 'groom' to Akiharu's dream of being a bride lol.

Nukerjsr

2009-12-31, 04:10

This show already has an edge over Kanokon mostly because the main boy is a boy and the main girl is a girl. And while it was a bit weird as I watched all of it, it was definitely interesting and kind of new.

The art style is still very distracting, just because along with the shininess of the characters, they seem to add alot of brightness to the scenery and many different shots (Not just the blurred out ones) There are a few strange observations worth noting though.

-The tsundere girl is called "Flameheart?" Wow, subtle. :heh:
-What was the with the loli-unintentional-fondling scene? The girls passed out from seeing him, couldn't she of done that with him.
-And the scene where the girl decides..."Well, I'm going to undress now." That was odd. Fanservice, no doubt, but that was without reason.
-I'm glad this protagonist has a "What the hell are you doing?!" attitude to all of the insanity.
-Wow, angry taskmaster. Very interesting...

Overall, it's entertaining. Can't say it was bad, but not really great.

Johnny

2009-12-31, 04:19

I'm a perv, so not dropping it either. Unless they make the main dude a whipping post for the rest of the cast...

Shiroth

2009-12-31, 05:40

We could be seeing the most luckiest main character in history here.

It's not a bad first episode, and i like the set-up with the twisted girl from the past appearing. I'm sure it'll make for some very interesting scenes later in the series. Plus we get an all around introduction to the cast, which was quite nice.

"Don't even my Father touched me there." was so a twisted Gundam reference. :p

Oh, and Daichi is adorable~

SonOfHeaven

2009-12-31, 07:28

Episode wasn't that bad. Tomomi character seems pretty interesting. I'll probably continue to watch this series.

Kaoru Chujo

2009-12-31, 08:51

This was one of the least likely titles of the season, but episode one surprised me. Kore kara tanoshiku narisou. "From now on, it seems like this is going to be fun." That was the last line of the episode, spoken by Kawasumi Ayako's subtly evil Saikyou, and I might feel the same way myself.

The drawing and animation are luscious. The characters are individuals. The hero seems good. And so far, the fanservice is more enjoyable than obscene, for me.

The voice acting makes a good impression: Nakahara Mai's deep sobs are outstanding, and there are also Koshimizu Ami, Kugimiya Rie, Gotou Mai, Hidaka Rina (the 15-year-old who was Anne in Before Green Gables and Last Order in Index) and Ise Mariya to enjoy.

This was purely an introductory episode, and did its job. It will all depend on where the story and characters go from here. And whether the fanservice ends up sinking into Kanokon territory, or stays at this more acceptable level.

FlareKnight

2009-12-31, 09:32

I think this was a solid start. Definitely did a nice job introducing a large amount of the cast at once. One of the draws will probably be Saikyou. You had hints at the start with her conversation with the drill, but wow got some insights with those brief flashes. How someone ends up in the same school with someone who inflicted some major childhood trauma is beyond me.

The guy must be cursed or something. Thought he'd start running away or climbing up a pole :heh:. Definitely a clash with how he threw all the rough comments at the drill. Simple but loved the drill background noise they applied there :D.

Certainly some silly stuff, but looks like it should be pretty entertaining.

Dop

2009-12-31, 17:46

I might give it one more episode, but really, 'Ladies versus Butlers'? Can anyone else hear this sound? it's kind of like the bottom of something round and hollow being scraped.

longshot

2009-12-31, 18:14

I might give it one more episode, but really, 'Ladies versus Butlers'? Can anyone else hear this sound? it's kind of like the bottom of something round and hollow being scraped.

well to me it does have a few meanings:

girls vs guys

masters vs servants

upperclass vs lowerclass

we'll just have to see how it turns out next week

felix

2009-12-31, 18:14

Nosauz

2009-12-31, 19:31

meh this episode was very substandard. Typical ditz fondling tits and even some carpet munching, might be my fanservice show like kampfer, but i find it unlikely that this will be anywhere near as entertaining as shizuku or mikoto. Plus nipples through clothing/bras is just tacky.

FlareKnight

2009-12-31, 20:55

Story is solid, surprise surprise. Naming of the series "ladies vs buttlers" is really awkward and a turn off; probably my biggest problem with it. Will have to watch more of this since a lot of series burn off all their glory in the first episode only to shock and fall next one.Yeah I'd agree the worst part of this so far is just the series title. Really doesn't give a good first impression with a name like that :heh:. Of course saw a series called "Birdy the Mighty Decode" and that turned out well so I try not to let series names really affect me.

AlaAlba

2009-12-31, 21:09

not bad really ^^, I think I'll follow this serie
I like the drill part, so lol

and I just have to crop this image :D
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8531/drill1.jpg

Nosauz

2009-12-31, 21:11

best part was probably the i want to be a bride part... freaking hilarious. but still the fanservice was a bit too gratutious

kk2extreme

2009-12-31, 21:11

so who are the main couples here?

Gundam Meister

2009-12-31, 21:18

I Think is either Akiharu x Tomomi or Akiharu x Sernia

FlareKnight

2009-12-31, 21:43

I Think is either Akiharu x Tomomi or Akiharu x SerniaYeah those would be my guesses. Though I lean more towards Akiharu and Sernia if only because you can see both being intimidated by Tomomi. Unity for the possible victims :heh:.

Nosauz

2009-12-31, 21:57

so who are the main couples here?

diachixaikiharu DUH :P

all that tsun tsun can only lead to some dere dere, and their roommates, game set match.

longshot

2009-12-31, 22:22

diachixaikiharu DUH :P

all that tsun tsun can only lead to some dere dere, and their roommates, game set match.

true but that won't happen until:
diachi is a girl. manga showed that kaoru is breast binding so should their not going to take off until akikiharu finds out the secret, plus kaoru may get in the lead considering their roommates

yononaka

2010-01-01, 03:06

Naming of the series "ladies vs buttlers" is really awkward
Indeed, it makes you expect more butt oriented stuff, but there's mostly just breast grabbing. The maid saved the day, though.

/not serious

SinsI

2010-01-01, 03:46

First episode reminded me heavily of Kanokon, and I think this series also goes straight into the "don't watch this till the uncensored version comes out" territory.

Fishfood1

2010-01-01, 13:41

i find the pre-release episode really hilarious. the guy is such a perv, yet he doesn't realize it.

velvet

2010-01-01, 14:12

Hearing seiyuu after seiyuu as I watched the episode make want to cry. (Not used to rage, so..)
- Doji-meido. facepalm.
- 19 years old 2nd grader. Head at desk.
- Stripper. Wristwristwrist.
- Good going bro, stay like that and molest everyone. Molester in motion.
- And to think that this isn't even the 1st episode yet *cries*, I'm afraid to imagine what it'd look like in the 12th episode. (Animation-quality wise)
- The hell is wrong with the principal's voice? (Okay, I like it)

But then again, it's been a while since I heard Nakahara Mai, so I'm ecstatic.
And it's quite fun watching Flameheart-san so far.
Going calm-loud-chaotic-yanderesmile-berserk-almostcrying-andsoonandsoon (Especially when she goes yandere :heh: )

Okay, I think I can withstand this. ;)

Tatiana Razajev

2010-01-01, 14:19

Nukerjsr

2010-01-01, 14:26

To be honest, I think the "accidental fanservice" part was essentially dragged out and felt a bit forced to me. Still the show did get better near the end of the episode. Some of the characters might of interest, so I may give it another episode or two in order to see what the true flow is like.

Agreed. I didn't like some of the fanservice, with the random pantsu at the desks, the loli molestation, and the "Oh, I have a spill on my clothes in this gigantic room. Time to take off clothes." However, I did like the mouth-on-pantsu action and the stuff that happened to Flameheart was funny. And how the disciplinarian got angry at the principal for playing the eroge.

kk2extreme

2010-01-01, 15:35

in terms of fanservice, i like kanokon more, since in kanokon, most of the fanservice is borderline hentai, and they are mostly initiate by the main females and they got creative :D

the fanservice here is way more generic and very stereotypic, but im guessing this one has more story

Pellissier

2010-01-01, 15:51

It wasn't a bad first episode, honestly. Sure, it does have Kanokon written all over it, being it the same character design, or the strong fanservice, or Kawasumi Ayako, or the overload of cute girls, or the main character being toyed with by everyone. Now all that's left to match Kanokon is an non existent plot. On the positive side, at least the main character is a male voiced by a male instead of an hybrid.

Finally Nakahara Mai, who's been quite absent from the dubbing since Clannad After Story. She's been a personal favourite of mine since her early role in Midori no Hibi six years ago, and I kind of miss her if I can't get to hear her voice for more than a season. Unfortunately we get her hurricane ojousama type instead of her moe type, but much better than nothing.

I have to rely on comparisons and memories because there isn't really much to comment about episode 1. The scene in which Akiharu kept bouncing from a girl to another was hilarious (at least in the first minutes before it became stalling), although I didn't really get why some of the girls fainted just when he was approaching them. Perhaps it's something to be unveiled later. Other than that, purely introductive with several girls just shown since they'll obviously appear in the future. Will watch episode 2, no doubts.

"Oh, I have a spill on my clothes in this gigantic room. Time to take off clothes."
I agree on the other points, but to me (and anyone watching Railgun I guess) this particular scene sounded like a big deja-vu. The nugu-onna legend continues, and extends! XD

the fanservice here is way more generic and very stereotypic, but im guessing this one has more story
I have no clues about what this is about but before making comparisons I'd wait at least a few other episodes. The director, Ootsuki Atsushi, is the same of Kanokon so I don't see why this can't become like that.

ZODDGUTS

2010-01-01, 16:01

Well at least the characters here look to be likeable unlike in Kanokon especially the main couple which just irritated me to no end.

FlareKnight

2010-01-01, 17:19

Guido

2010-01-01, 19:00

Why I picked up L v.s. B in the first place?

This title is one among the most anticipated shows for the New Year's season, in fact, I watched the pre-release Episode 1 half-hour later after the start of the New Year.

Going by the title, I was expecting it to be a literal, doused with tons of fanservice, slapstick-comedy about maids and butlers going against each other.

It isn't, though it offers to the audience (at least, watching the first episode I perceived it that way) a new approach to the slapstick comicity of harem comedies.

Basically, they're fighting the rule that if the male protagonist by bad luck and/or coincidence ends himself up in an embarrassing situation where he gropes by accident a female's character breasts; looks up at her panties beneath her skirts; or anything related that provides some fresh and ecchi fanservice material, then the boy gets literally blasted or hammered down with a fist sandwich or pummeled into a bloody pulp by the female characters with absolutely NO room to explain himself.

The writers let Akiharu to actually attempt to reason with Cernia about all the misunderstandings he endured it, but how could it be a good slapstick-comedy of its genre if the male protagonist is allowed and gets scot-free by explaining himself properly.

Now, it wasn't so bad because Akiharu only ended up getting on a wild-goose chase run by Cernia and company, and at least he escaped any potential beatings from Cernia and the rest of the Upper-Ed students.

The bad news is that the girl who happens to show him around his new school turned out to be the scary girl from his old elementary school, whom she mercilessly bullied him to no end.

Now, this brings a new and fresh approach to the genre:
I'm not sure if osananajimi is the correct term to apply in the relationship between Akiharu and Tomomi, because she was a bully to him back in childhood, and Tomomi's malicious smile at the end of the episode is a clear indicator that she's more than willing to let her ijime run rampant now that her favorite monkey-doll, Akiharu, is back to her to being object of her abuses.

Then, Cernia who complained about the boring lifestyle she's leading right now at school. In terms of actual plot elements in the story, she's the very first girl Akiharu meets up when he transfers to the elite school.
Rules regarding boys and girls relationship in romance comedy anime dictates, that boy eventually warms up to and falls in love with the first girl he meets at the very start of the story. Special exceptions occur if said male protagonist had previously an osananajimi girl during his childhood and happens to reunite with her in the present timeline of the story.

But, my friends the gist is that Tomomi's a cute, evil, devil from Akiharu's past, even if the term osananajimi could apply to her.

And, in addition, we have that Tomomi also delights at every opportunity to ridicule, mock, or humiliate Cernia in whatever discussion or wacky situation arises.

For example, when she tried Cernia to openly admit in public that Cernia got groped by Akiharu.

Guess, that he did not want any further problems, Akiharu saved face to and spared Cernia any humilliation by publicly accepting the fault that he groped her, though accidentally.
Nevertheless, Cernia could not escape feeling insulted or ashamed, since basically it means for her to concede reason to the boy that groped her and do many "ecchi" things to her, according to her version of the story.

Well, Cernia expressed that she wanted a change to the endless, boring days but got more than she's able to handle.

:topicoff:
Happy New Year!

-Sho-

2010-01-01, 21:23

Hmmm just watch ep 1 .

Ow , it was rather bad for a start until when the guy remembered her childhood enemy(not friend :heh:) here it was hilarious .
Omg the loli 19 years old .
Oh god , it was forced , overabused the accidents molestations ...
Rofl Principal who played Dating guy Games .
14:55 they are so moe specillay the blond one .

Ok , here we have Kanokon's design and fanservice .
Well , maybe it can be the best fanservice in this season .

The butler is a girl i think in the end .

I thought the main lead will be more aggressive . I heard that he was a delinquent and look like a mafioso , well now that he met Saikyo , it won't be the same lulz

chinaboat

2010-01-02, 00:08

I was hoping for an ecchi version of Hayate no Gotoku but based on this episode it's not going to be as witty, ah well, it still seemed pretty funny. Plus, the VA's are excellent especially Rie Kugimiya no one mumbles cuter than her and her timing is usually impeccable.

Ravenblitz

2010-01-02, 04:26

well its was a decent episode... i'll watch it halfway and decide if I'll continue or not XD

Bombo

2010-01-02, 09:14

Not bad from first episode but i'm looking forward what will happen between childhood :p

Freya

2010-01-02, 18:47

Interesting episode I guess. What's up with that girls hair? It really is like a drill.

mechdra

2010-01-02, 21:46

Well, not a bad first episode. Like the voice acting of all the seiyu so far especially Nakahara Mai. I am looking forward to this series but I hope the quality of animation improve. I do not hope this turns out to be another Kanakon.

Yuutsu

2010-01-03, 03:21

Eh, I went into this show fulling understanding that it wasn't going impress in terms of plot, character, art design, or anything like that. That is to say, I began with little in the way of expectations and hoped that it would prove to be an interesting diversion. I came out of the first episode pleasantly surprised.

Obviously Ladies vs. Butlers is clichéd, what with the story and milieu having already been exhausted thoroughly with countless other butler/maid/rich/poor/whatever anime. Everything about the show can be summed up with 3 words: mediocre and trite. However, when I watched with the perspective that it wasn't supposed to be something deep or revolutionary, I found that I enjoyed this episode quite a bit more than I had originally thought was possible.

Granted, I was definitely face-palming during the beginning when I saw some stereotypical tropes of shallow, fan-service anime continue to be perpetuated such as the stubborn tsundere (tsunderes are cute, but dumb ones are not) and unrealistically proportioned, moeblob women. Furthermore, absolutely nothing interesting was happening in the first ten minutes or so (just boring dialogue [no, I have absolutely nothing against dialogue, I enjoyed Bakemonogatari after all : P]).

When the main character was first introduced, though, I brightened up immediately because he *gasp* actually gave a witty retort to the drill-head and proved that he wasn't some emasculated and half-baked milquetoast. I'm frankly sick of spineless, male protagonists and absolutely refuse to watch any anime or read any manga featuring them (there's always exceptions, though). The scenes, thereafter, I found to be quite enjoyable despite the innumerable amount of times that I've seen them in other anime. Again, it probably was because I enjoyed it for what it was: mindless entertainment.

In summary, I guess I can count myself interested in this series and will see how it unravels. It'll be a good series to track and vegetate to whilst waiting for the 'main' anime such as Katanagatari or Nodame.

HandofFate

2010-01-03, 04:08

wth is this...

not a big fan of maids/butlers or ojou-sama series, but I liked the color scheme, and voice actors, so I probably follow this for a few episodes.

Seemed regular the first 10 minutes, but once the guy came in, and all the hi-jinxs, I was XD at all the mishaps that was happening.

-Girls fainting just from seeing him
-19 year old loli...
-self-undressing girl

ridicilous fan-service series, but I'm willing to find enjoyment in it.

GarethXL

2010-01-04, 07:16

i actually like this show, was actually planing to skip this due to the bad adaptation of the comic version, but the directing of the animated adaptation seems to be good, give it another more few more ep before i decide to drop it or not.

and kanokon was borderline hentai since ep1 this show isn't.

Sinestra

2010-01-04, 10:14

Not a bad first episode nothing stellar about it but the humor kept me entertained enough to keep with it for a bit. Cute innocent looking girl with the a smile of Lucifer man the male lead is going to be tortured to the highest degree i foresee.

Midonin

2010-01-05, 12:32

Here we go, this is what was keeping me from jumping into this thread so quickly.

"LOVE x HEAVEN" by Mai Nakahara, Ayako Kawasumi, Rie Kugimiya and Ami Koshimizu
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"my starry boy" by Mai Nakahara
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DragoonKain3

2010-01-05, 13:39

Hmm, the more I see the characters not having noses (at least when viewed from front), the more I find its cute. I dunno, I thought the same thing when I played Final Fantasy Tactics; it's really starting to grow on me lol.

I'm not sure if osananajimi is the correct term to apply in the relationship between Akiharu and Tomomi, because she was a bully to him back in childhood, and Tomomi's malicious smile at the end of the episode is a clear indicator that she's more than willing to let her ijime run rampant now that her favorite monkey-doll, Akiharu, is back to her to being object of her abuses.

I dunno, but Aoba of Cross Game was downright malicious towards Kou ever since they were kids, and she acknowledged in the source proper that he was her osananajimi. :shrug:

Midonin

2010-01-05, 23:29

May as well get this cleared on the day of the first official airing:

According to the show's Wikipedia article (the Japanese one, which is likely to be more accurate), the official spelling of the non-Japanese names:

Sernia Flameheart
Ayse Khadim
Hedyeh
Pina Sformklan Estor

Okay, we haven't really gotten to know the last three yet. But the last on the list is played by Mai Goto and listed as a major character on the website. Just have to keep the consonants in order.

serenade_beta

2010-01-06, 01:27

Ya~y, AT-X's broadcast got rid of the white paint censor~

Both the OP/ED were surprisingly nice... :twitch:
I'm sure this could end up being an enjoyable anime... As long as it doesn't turn into Kanokon 2 somehow.

Nukerjsr

2010-01-06, 11:08

While I like that OP, when I watched it, all I could think was nipples.

willyvereb

2010-01-06, 11:12

Interesting episode. For the first few minutes Ive almost stopped watching it but then came the second part of the episode which saved it for me.As I saw the protagonist my first impression was like:
"Oh? So We have a young Lancerr(from FSN) for the lead?"
His reactions are also quite good and saikyou is an unexpectedly interesting character. Well, especially if we combine it with the protag's priceless reactions:p
Also until I read the forums I compared this anime to the Negima anime. Though maybe the kanokon comparsion is better.

felix

2010-01-06, 12:07

Ya~y, AT-X's broadcast got rid of the white paint censor~And how does the uncensored version look? =P *nudge nudge*

serenade_beta

2010-01-06, 14:18

And how does the uncensored version look? =P *nudge nudge*

Fufufu. Kanokon quality!
...Which doesn't really describe anything.

Just the usual stuff. Nipples, etc. Nothing really exciting, but anything better than white paint blinding the entire screen. :heh:

Forbin

2010-01-06, 18:26

And how does the uncensored version look? =P *nudge nudge*

You get an OP, and ED, a Preview, and about 10 things. That's about it.

Ashlotte

2010-01-06, 23:23

While I like that OP, when I watched it, all I could think was nipples.

Aye...that particular character design quirk is rather annoying...Their either all going no-bra or are permanently aroused...Not sure which explanation is worse... :heh:

Mmm beyond that though I quite like the lead who seems to be abit less of a gutless wimp then most...Well when hes not being pursued by drill-chan or stared down by the psycho, but can you really blame him for that? ;)

DragoZERO

2010-01-06, 23:25

billborden

2010-01-07, 00:53

I just finished eps 1, and it left me with a profound "... :twitch: huh :twitch: ..." The link to Kanokon is obvious in both art and boobage, but this one seems to be pushing a bit harder. It had its funny moments, but there was a definite sense of "how much nekkid-ness can we get in?" With luck, it may still be good for a laugh.
Oh, and am I the only one who thinks that the eyes look a bit off--no pupil, sometimes even the white faded; at leasts once I was reminded of shark eyes, only with color--creepy and just a bit disturbing :upset:

billborden

2010-01-07, 00:55

And I call that his roommate is a cross-dressing girl.

Definitely

SuperKnuckles

2010-01-07, 02:44

Pretty fun for a harem show I guess. I loved the fanservice in Kanokon (totally over the top, almost vulgarly so). But the bad part is, it still feels like I'm watching Kanokon. They totally didn't bother to at least adjust the character designs a bit.

DragoZERO

2010-01-07, 07:56

willyvereb

2010-01-07, 08:09

Believe me...All we need is some Spiral Power to make those annoying croissants the devices of awesome:p
Imagine her shouting:
"Flameheart Drill Attack"

Ashlotte

2010-01-07, 15:49

I watched Kanokon so long ago that it doesn't bother me.

The thing that bothers me is that drill hair. >.<

Bah the Drills are awesome...Fun to see someone take a risk with a lead character design ya? :p

Especially liked em when they started shaking when she was angry with accompanying SFX near the start...I usually detest big breasted characters, but I've taken quite a liking to Drill-chan. ;)

Mentar

2010-01-08, 07:46

Much better than expected, imho ;)

I'm willing to call the MVP of the show already: Tomomi. And this time, we'll at least have a not-completely-spineless male lead, so I'm looking forward to some nice mindless fun. Flameheart was also pleasantly enjoyable - another ojou tsundere, but at least not without humor and with a certain degree of self-control. I like her too.

This will by no means become a "great anime", but I suspect that I'll be able to watch the episodes entertained. And that's worth alot nowadays.

felix

2010-01-08, 07:55

Believe me...All we need is some Spiral Power to make those annoying croissants the devices of awesome:p"Maki maki maki maki..." =P

Ehnra

2010-01-08, 10:52

What a great... The only thing i can remember from the episodes is that darn drill-looking hairstyle that is clearly out of place ... episode.

Forbin

2010-01-08, 14:12

"Maki maki maki maki..." =P

Hehe we go from Gurren Lagann to Otome?

donoghu

2010-01-09, 01:02

Interesting series. Pretty funny start. The best part was really the dark haired girl being a real mean character under her nice facade.

Poor guy.

And what the hell kind of name is "Flameheart" and what's with that hair too!? That's really bad.

And I call that his roommate is a cross-dressing girl.

Yeah... That "mean face" actually looks like the face of my girlfriend when her evil side takes over... Couldn't stop laugting at it because of that.
(Every time I speak about something that her evil side can use... she smile like that, telling me that there is something fishy going in her mind. But she's not that evil... I'm much more :D)

SaintessHeart

2010-01-09, 04:15

For the first time, Rie Kugimiya isn't acting as the tsundere of the story. Nagisa becomes a tsundere instead.

This is hilarious! We have a delinquent interacting with a

1. Tsundere
2. Yandere osanajimi
3. Loli
4. SM fetish mistress of a clumsy servant
5. Yuri mideastern butler-mistress couple
6. Yaoi/BL-loving principal

Something to continue watching. Good enough substitute for Seitokai no Ichizon. :D

Traece

2010-01-10, 21:43

There wasn't much I could think of to say about this anime.

Like most I picked it up because I looked at it on the list when the first episode showed up for the first time and asked myself: "Would I watch it?" Naturally the answer was yes, and after watching it I'm going to continue watching. It seems like animes centered around people from rich families mingling with a main character from a poor family are becoming of interest to me lately, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. I guess they're just so damn entertaining.

I have to admit though, I feel really sorry for our main character to be trapped in this situation. It's not even the character base with all the extremely flawed rich characters that makes me feel bad for him. It's Saikyo that makes me feel bad for him.

Spectacular_Insanity

2010-01-11, 13:24

I just have to say that when Akiharu said, "Omae.... MASAKA!!!!", it just made the first episode for me. It was some funny voice acting. Despite the fact that I bet most of this show is gonna be fanservice with little plot, it will probably still be funny as hell.

Mentar

2010-01-11, 13:45

What I find particularly remarkable: He's generally not a wuss, I'm willing to make that call already. I wonder what kind of demon Tomomi must be to elicit THAT kind of reaction? ;)

Kaoru Chujo

2010-01-12, 13:02

I watched ep2 thinking it might be the last ep I watched of this. But no. Sure, it's a pastiche of anime memes, but it does them very well. I laughed out loud a couple of times. The fanservice is strong but not excessive (to me). I think there is more to the relationships than there was in Kanokon. The lead guy -- and girls -- are interesting. And the drawing and animation continue to be excellent, in my opinion.

satomianzaki

2010-01-12, 14:00

tomomi is pretty entertaining at the start of the ep...must be really hard for her to hide her true pesonality...am really beginning to like her... :)

blitz1/2

2010-01-12, 15:27

*can't stop laughing* Gonna keep this as a show to watch in winter.

@Saintess: You never know, Daichi could be a tsundere guy instead.

serenade_beta

2010-01-12, 16:50

Fmm... The general atmosphere is entertaining, I guess. But the side characters' personalities are as interesting as a blade of grass. Actually, considering blades of grass are no annoying, below that level.
Anyways, do something about that incredibly redundant maid and that as-promised-to-be-in-every-anime pointlessly Kansai-ben character.

Mainly watching the anime for Tomomi, but she barely gets any appearance time... The little time she got at the end was just a deja vu of the first episode too...

But it is entertaining... to a point. Let's see how it turns out... The only anime today, too...
To be honest, this anime could work without the pointless ecchi scenes (that actually work against this anime).

...
Come to think of this, this anime is created by XEBEC, huh... Fmm~ The same one who did To-Love-Ru and Kanokon?
Hmm~
...

Mentar

2010-01-12, 19:14

longshot

2010-01-12, 20:17

wow...i knew the green haired maid umm sanae?? was a dojjiko but CMON no one can be that clumsy ugh maybe she needs glasses??

err in anycase their shooting through the manga material so i'm going to go on a wildguess and say next few episodes are going to be based on the novel

has anyone read the novel??

Seravy

2010-01-13, 02:50

re: ep2

DAT MEIDO

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:nShELwcaiehW9M:http://www.atalude.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/datass.jpg

DragoZERO

2010-01-13, 23:07

Episode two was hilarious. I am glad they make all of the fan service into jokes. I hate when it's meant to be taken somewhat seriously.

Saikyo is really funny. I hope we see more of her soon. She's got everyone dancing to her tune.

Ep2: Worse than ep1, unfortunately. The show would be much better if the greenhaired dojikko tit-monster maid would drop into a bottomless pit and never see the light of day again. I'm a bit amazed that anyone would still write her parts into a light novel or animate that on TV. Is _anyone_ laughing at this? Does anyone _really_ want to see that? Gawd...Yeah, I really don't care for the ditzy maid. She's a little too stupid for my tastes plus way over the top too.

There are upsides however. Flameheart-sama held her own this ep, to a degree. And the end of the episode showed that there's a fine girl under her prideful shell trying to get out. Relatively little Tomomi this time, but fine when she was. She was great this time around. Definitely showed a lot of emotion all around and was quite comical through out too. I'm okay with her hair now since it makes for good jokes. :heh:

So, to me this show is about the relationships between the main leads, and in fact, I do see alot of potential there. I hope that the rest of the cast doesn't waste much time, to allow us to focus on the three.I too hope they don't waste time but from the preview I fear we will lose out on a potentially great love triangle.

PS: IMHO Daichi is so much of a girl that it's not even funny anymore.Not much of a mystery there. Boooring.

longshot

2010-01-13, 23:49

hmm ok after watching and understanding a little more all i can say is the male lead is nothing more than a chew toy for the girls....ALL OF THEM, i think thats why tomomi said its going to be more interesting last episode too they all have someone new to bully!!

Nukerjsr

2010-01-14, 00:37

Ep2: Worse than ep1, unfortunately. The show would be much better if the greenhaired dojikko tit-monster maid would drop into a bottomless pit and never see the light of day again. I'm a bit amazed that anyone would still write her parts into a light novel or animate that on TV. Is _anyone_ laughing at this? Does anyone _really_ want to see that? Gawd...

I actually thought this was better than Episode 1, since Episode 1 was just the same thing over and over, but you are so right about Sanae. She's just...pointless. And I didn't mind the bathroom scene but WTF with her in the pool?! Why was she there?!

The bathroom scene I thought was pretty funny just because it was different outcomes than what typically happens. Akiharu wasn't all "OH MY GOD, SHE HAS BOOBS. THIS IS SO TERRIBLE! D:" and I was really expected for the Principal to beat his ass once she appeared on the scene. Instead, we got the opposite.

There are upsides however. Flameheart-sama held her own this ep, to a degree. And the end of the episode showed that there's a fine girl under her prideful shell trying to get out. Relatively little Tomomi this time, but fine when she was.

So, to me this show is about the relationships between the main leads, and in fact, I do see alot of potential there. I hope that the rest of the cast doesn't waste much time, to allow us to focus on the three.

The back and forth between Selnia and Akiharu is great. It's making the show for me. She's a pretty good tsundere, I'd say. And Tomomi is pretty fun too, when I was just expecting constant cold, calculation. Very, very nice. I don't mind the side characters that much, but if they get in the way like Sanae did, then I'm with you.

PS: IMHO Daichi is so much of a girl that it's not even funny anymore.

Okay, time to bring up ANOTHER complaint I have towards the animation style (but with a compliment too)

Seriously, where's the gender equality here? You can already make assumptions about Daichi just because of the eyes. All the girls have super irises and the boys do not. But we are thrown a curve ball with that other shota-fied boy called Mitsuru (Really? Going to go with that?) It's like, seriously, can you adjust the eyes? Everyone should have the same eyes or the genders should have the same eyes...it's just really weird. I can see why Akiharu is different, but check your shit. I mean, look at how Toradora handled that situation.

The positive I can say is that while the art style is intended to make the girls a bit more sultry, they have the upside of being a bit more scary as well. Like the way Mikan-sensei was during the pool scene, she was really entertaining to watch cause of how the art-style worked to her advantage.

Either way, still entertained...just hoping the loli stuff can move along quickly.

slidingk1

2010-01-14, 02:24

Not so bad for a good brain disconnect anime I'll keep this on the watch list.

SuperKnuckles

2010-01-14, 02:28

Yes. With harem shows, just turn off the brain. Otherwise, you'll start getting headaches.

Then again, almost all anime so far has had one or more extreme-conveniences. Typical anime really.

Eclipze

2010-01-14, 02:32

Kind of curious:
How many series out there feature a drill head as the lead girl? Other than this one, I can't think of any.:eyespin:

HandofFate

2010-01-14, 03:55

wow, what's the airtime for this show?
First few seconds and we get boobies down to the nipples. Don't they usually reserve that for DVD releases?

I know JPN TV isn't as strict about it as US, but thought that even they use some 'clevery located' branches or steam for most bath scenes.

What kind of name is Flameheart...everytime she says her name, I imagine Nanoha suddenly flying across the screen and spearing someone...seriously...everytime.

Was shaking my head at the clumsey maid though, so silly.

chinaboat

2010-01-14, 04:07

So far this show has marched boldly past stupid and onto another plane of existence where it's weirdly entertaining in a completely goofy sorta way - and that's a good thing.

velvet

2010-01-14, 09:02

re: ep2

DAT MEIDO

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:nShELwcaiehW9M:http://www.atalude.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/datass.jpg

She's getting on my nerves.

I did not notice Kugimiya last episode. The scene with the tie kept my mouth open for about 10seconds.

Drill-chan going dere is irresistable.

Nosauz

2010-01-14, 10:49

sooooooooo bad that it's ok.... I'll just watch for the ridiculous pointless fanservice

DragoonKain3

2010-01-14, 11:11

alu546

2010-01-14, 15:26

Tomomi seems to be the driving character in an otherwise bland show.

Well our protagonist isnt bad either. Few harem guys i like.

Best moment so far was Aki realizing he knew Tomomi in episode 1. That was so funny.

EDIT: And no Tomomi isnt yandere. If there were a word to classify it, it would be "sadist"

FlareKnight

2010-01-14, 16:16

Bah, not enough Tomomi.

But what little we have of her, I love it. Here she is acting really concerned about Aki like your typical osananajimi (and Tomomi is Aki's childhood friend as Selnia said as much), but the great thing about it is that we can never be too sure if it's real or if there's an ulterior motive behind it. Even Aki keeps on doubting her good will lol.

By far, the most interesting take on the archetype I've seen since the introduction of Yandere many years ago in Shuffle. XD

For the record, Tomomi ain't Yandere. Yandere has an unstable mind caused directly or indirectly by the actions of their LI, or actions of their LI's LI (aka their rival in love). Tomomi certainly ain't unstable, and Aki/Selnia's interactions together only serve to further her own amusement rather seek out separating the two. Quite opposite of the typical yandere, if I say so myself.Yeah I think Akiharu isn't able to really take anything she says at face value. He knows Tomomi well enough to know she's got some plot running around in her head there. Would probably hurt their friendship since I doubt he can trust her very much. Still she is quite the driving force for the series. She plays around with people and they perform pretty well :heh:. Plus hearing her thoughts spill out a bit during the tea with those girls made it clear. She's bored and needs people to entertain her. Tomomi's not a yandere just manipulative.

Still I have to think after she transferred there was a gigantic sigh of relief from Akiharu :heh:. Nice that we got to know how they both ended up there.

The drill was fun as usual :). I can't help laughing when her hair goes full drill mode at the pool. She can go overboard at times, but is also fairly fun. She just stays in eavesdropping mode for several seconds when the door stayed open.

Only downside was the klutz. She's really going to get herself killed one day with all the falling over she does.

willyvereb

2010-01-14, 16:53

Or she's doing that intentionally in secret. I can't imagine someone being so much of a ditz and serving as a maid without ruaining the whole place a long time ago.

Anyways Tomomi only has a subtle appearance most of the time, but both the show's and most of the happening's driving force. She enjoys herself quite much for sure!

Also while Akiharu doubted Tomomi's intentions out of experience, he still appreciated them somehow. I think they get on well with each other despite Akiharu's image of Tomomi as a total villain.

alu546

2010-01-14, 17:31

The best manipulators only tell partial truths when it serves their own ends, and are honest otherwise. When she told Aki how she would help him graduate, there was no gain for her because Aki didnt believe it anyway, so she was being honest. Still, the scene after the pool showed plenty of familiarity and a comfort zone for the characters.

I have a hard time reacting positively to tsundere people unless they are children. In that regard the drill girl really needs to mature.

Ashlotte

2010-01-14, 21:04

Needs less tiresome clumsy maid and more sadistic childhood friend jerking him and drill-chans chains...I was hoping for something when she got the crazy smile mid way through and seemed like she might start something, but all they end up doing is visiting the pool...bah...

Atleast we get loli next time. :heh:

-Sho-

2010-01-14, 21:04

Just watch ep 2 :

Well , i'll keep this one cuz of Tomomi and Aki , wanna see how it'll develop .
Tomomi was bored but now that there is Aki , she'll enjoy a lot XD

DeadlySoldier37

2010-01-14, 22:30

Just watched the first two episodes. I didn't think it was that bad. In it's own way it's funny. I like the interactions between Flameheart and the main guy.

So I'll keep watching this until the end.

Master_Yoma

2010-01-14, 23:32

Shikikagami is awesome she just so clumsy she makes her clumsiness look so dirty and hot

Bonta Kun

2010-01-15, 03:03

haha well after watching ep 2 guess all I can say is it's good for some ecchi s**** and giggles as the saying goes:)

I see alot of people expecting great stuff from Tomomi, I'm not quite getting that vibe yet. Seems to me she will be the one pulling the strings but she won't actually get any great scenes compared to say, Drill-chan.
Hoping I'm wrong in this feeling tho.

SuperKnuckles

2010-01-15, 06:11

Not a thought provoking series to be sure, but the girls and their facial expressions are so cute it's sort of hard to hate on it too much.

Also, reverse trap incoming in 5.....4.....3....

Mentar

2010-01-15, 07:08

Sinestra

2010-01-15, 08:27

Episode 2 was terrible but i defiantly was not laughing as hard as i thought i would be. A lot of the gags could be spotted a mile way and when they latched on the something they used it over and over. However the serious scene in the infirmary was a nice touch it seems our boy has had a rough time since his father died.

Tomomi is indeed puzzling it obvious she cares for Aki as her childhood friend. Her antics are usually for her own amusement you can tell she doesnt really take to the ojousama atmosphere hence her boredom. She was not born into it like Selina but kind of had it forced on her because of her mothers remarrying.

Tomomi's strategy seems to set Aki vs Selina as much as possible and its obvious why. These two are Lions and Hyenas natural enemies however as is most common in these animes its after only 2 episodes Selina is starting to warm to Aki a bit. Even her life preserver turned shuriken was a bid to help too bad it just knocked him unconscious :heh: I wonder if Tomomi will attempt to push these two together or will she take lead as the romantic interest.

Shikikagami is indeed cute and funny I just hope they dont keep her like this the whole time or at least show up another side of her. I dont know who her sister is but i like her philosophy "when a woman is in the mounting position on a man she must finish no matter what":D:D:D:D:D. Aki's gotten more action from Shikikagami then hes ever seen in his pre pubescent life and totally by accident.

no censoring makes me a happy viewer and alu546 is right Tomomi is most defiantly a SADIST.

Chase

2010-01-15, 13:02

Finished watching episode 2. Surprisingly, I enjoyed it. Especially seeing Tomomi:)

hollowification

2010-01-15, 17:03

this anime is so funny it anime too echhi but i like this anime.

Kaoru Chujo

2010-01-15, 17:12

...A lot of the gags could be spotted a mile way and when they latched on the something they used it over and over....That's part of this style of humor, I think. The fact that clumsy maid just walked into the shower and kept coming, without embarrassment, was another part. They take the normal memes and just push them that much further. It's a form of irony, I think.

In Seitokai no Ichizon, they did a more sophisticated version of something similar, and it supported the series through twelve episodes, making it one of my favorites of the year. I'm not sure this show has that staying power, but I found the first two episodes amusing.

Guido

2010-01-16, 17:17

Two weeks later, two weeks of waiting which my patience paid off.

I've, finally, managed to get hold of the second episode, and this one deals with Akiharu's first-time embarrasements at Hakureiyou School as a student.

Tomomi straightforwardly wants fun, and the only way she can get it is by placing Selnia and Akiharu to cross each other paths.

But, still I praised highly this episode, because it got into a good deal about Akiharu's personal reasons' to enroll at Hakureiyou. He did not want to put too much a strain on his relatives and believes that Hakureiyou is the ideal place for him to keep on pursuing his dream.

Of course, I have to take Tomomi's proposals to help Akiharu at getting used to his new life with a grain of salt, because she's the cute-little-devil, lady type. She's his childhood enemy. But, there might be a flickering light of geniune concern from her for Akiharu, after all; that's if I'm not getting my hopes too high.

If you ask me, I think that a Selnia X Akiharu pairing is a future possibility. Drill-head warmed up a little bit, and she did a little warming-up more for Akiharu once eavesdropping his reasons at enrolling to the school.

Nevertheless, it's both exciting and funny watching those bitterly argue and discussing, because I believe there's a lot of potential chemistry unleashed going on among those two.
After all, it was Selnia's fault for wishing that anything should happen to change her boring days.:heh:

That's part of this style of humor, I think. The fact that clumsy maid just walked into the shower and kept coming, without embarrassment, was another part. They take the normal memes and just push them that much further. It's a form of irony, I think.
.

I'm not complaining about that style of humor being predictable, rather I'm complaining that most of the fanservice jokes that will invariably explode on Akiharu as the victim and making him look as the perpetrator feel forceful.

I don't get the "loser boy" vibes from him. He just happens to have been borned with a very rough frown on his face and most of the upper lady-girls generally misinterpret him as a ruffian, hence, becoming scared of him.

longshot

2010-01-17, 18:54

DragoZERO

2010-01-17, 19:29

Wrath88

2010-01-18, 01:50

Best way to interpret her offer of help: 'So that you stay here as LONG as possible and provide me with all the entertainment I can milk out of you.'

Tomomi is more of someone who enjoys observing, while Selnia is someone who prefers her S actions personal. (Tomomi would take as many oppurtunities as she can to pit the two against each other, unlike Selnia who went for his empty table purely so she could point out all of his amateurish mistakes, though in typical 'never think through' form, she also faces his retaliation)

On that point, the 'Go To Hell!' part was the best scene of the 2nd ep.

Mentar

2010-01-18, 04:42

after episode 2 i've wondered what tomomi said at the end about helping aki graduate, but what i think is going through his head is "what kind of hell are you going to put me through as help" after all tomomi doesn't help you unless you're doing something for her

Is that really true?

She helped him both in ep1 (saving him from the girl onslaught) and ep2 (taking care of him in the infirmary) without having Aki do anything for her. It's rather that she draws her entertainment out of it whether or not you want her to ;)

I would be extremely surprised if Tomomi would leave him in a pickle when she could help him out, or demand any kind of compensation upfront for help.

willyvereb

2010-01-18, 16:02

Right. Tomomi is nice and helps Akiharu out, but she also likes to play around with him. She uses him to relieve her boredom but also cares for him. Maybe not, but for now it seems to be that way for me.

DragoonKain3

2010-01-19, 01:11

So... others see that behind her 'sadistic' smiles is someone who still has a soft spot for Aki?

Well, I'm glad me thinking that is not due to my osananajimi bias, as other people see it as well. :heh:

serenade_beta

2010-01-19, 15:22

Sinestra

2010-01-19, 16:08

No stupid maid? Best episode yet...
Seriously though, it was a surprisingly good episode. Any fanservice just felt so unnecessary... Not that there was much.
...
The protagonist was pretty cool this episode... Mmm... <--doesn't want to admit it?

Also, any Tomomi is nice, but sometimes, her dark side feels to exaggerated. I don't need a very obvious "heh!" or dark face every time she does something or plans something evil...

ohh i want to see episode 3 bad im really loving this show so far. You didnt make much mention of Flameheart did she have any screen time.

Im not surprised by your feelings on Tomomi they exaggerated her darkside from the start and i really dont expect them to tone it down at all. But for some reason i really Flameheart and Akiharu hes actually a pretty cool Protagonist.

Kaoru Chujo

2010-01-19, 16:14

I enjoyed ep3. Nothing earth-shaking, just a pleasant little episode with some good humor and nice warmth, and a little bit more rounding to the characters. As well as the lovely character design, which I continue to like.

alu546

2010-01-19, 16:23

No stupid maid? Best episode yet...
Seriously though, it was a surprisingly good episode. Any fanservice just felt so unnecessary... Not that there was much.
...
The protagonist was pretty cool this episode... Mmm... <--doesn't want to admit it?

Also, any Tomomi is nice, but sometimes, her dark side feels to exaggerated. I don't need a very obvious "heh!" or dark face every time she does something or plans something evil...

Too much Tomomi is better than a lack of Tomomi though, in that regard its a good thing. I can get that though, they need to maake some of that more subtle so it throws the audience off.

blitz1/2

2010-01-19, 18:12

well at least he changed "bousou drill" to simply "drill" :heh:

Mentar

2010-01-19, 18:52

I agree with Kaoru Chujo: A relatively unspectacular, but nice episode, mostly rounding out the main characters.

The bad first: The loli artist, supposed main character of this episode, fell completely flat with me. I really couldn't care less ^_^;

However, it passed out several brownie points to the mains: Tomomi proved that she clearly has the well-being of others in mind: Sending Aki after Mimina was just _nice_ of her. And the little playful teasing of Aki was really of the tame, acceptable kind. Which sits fine with me. I'm enjoying the little tidbits just fine.

Selnia cracked me up - it's surprising for me how quickly she turned full stalker mode, but I kinda like it. No matter how much of a front she might still put up on the outside, at least she seems to be honest enough to herself to act on it actively, and that scores high wigh me.

Finally, Aki showed the right degree of persistence and determination this ep to pull through. I never had problems with him in the first place.

In the end, the problem remains the troupe _around_ the lead triangle. Dear anime, you want to make me care? You'll have to do better than tit monster and shy loli, then. MUCH better.

serenade_beta

2010-01-20, 02:05

You didnt make much mention of Flameheart did she have any screen time.

Better late than never(?) and assuming you are asking a question:
She did, but played no major role. So little, I can't remember clearly anymore (already)...

Nosauz

2010-01-20, 14:04

Sinestra

2010-01-20, 17:55

Better late than never(?) and assuming you are asking a question:
She did, but played no major role. So little, I can't remember clearly anymore (already)...

i have been slacking on posting recently work has been kicking my butt so i have been reading more than watching. I still havent watched the episode yet im waiting for subs. but knowing me i will give the RAW a go anyway just cause i want to see the episode even though apparently it was not that interesting. I actually like Flameheart im not exactly sure why.

I hoping to catch up on everything by this weekend.

willyvereb

2010-01-20, 19:01

Drill-chan is cute and her antics even if annoying can be also as much amusing. In the third episode she had almost as much appearance as Tomomi, but she didn't have the same impact as her now.

She failed to give her card to Akihara because Tomomi was faster also Tomomi busted her tailing Akihara( She did the same thing though). Without subs I can't understand the scenes well to say actually what happened

Deathkillz

2010-01-21, 10:55

This series has been a real surprised for me and with episode 3 I'm liking what I see more and more. Initially I thought it was going to be some cliched dumb act of a school lifexfanservice mash up we've seen thousands of times before but eps 2 and 3 has given me hope that it won't fully rely on ecchi to get a decent story out of it. Hope it keeps up being good.

FlareKnight

2010-01-21, 18:27

Well I really liked this one. A good side is that Akiharu is a pretty strong lead character. He really speaks his mind especially when it comes to drill :heh:. Of course he's got the weak point of being terrified at what Tomomi might be up to. He really thought she was going to get him to do all that :heh:. I'm sure it was tempting, but glad her plot was something pretty tame. Liked how he knew they were tailing him. Apparently Tomomi wasn't kidding about his ability to notice things in his surroundings. Though with her as a childhood friend I can kind of understand where that type of ability would come from.

Pretty nice especially since the clumsy maid was no where to be seen. Sure Osawa fell over a few times, but it wasn't leading to ridiculous things.

Fishfood1

2010-01-21, 19:22

who's more scary, tomomi in her play/dark mode, or that teacher who jammed a pen into the principal's laptop? :heh:

GDB

2010-01-21, 19:35

who's more scary, tomomi in her play/dark mode, or that teacher who jammed a pen into the principal's laptop? :heh:

If we're to learn anything from Hayate, then Tomomi is scarier. Butlers are nigh immune to physical harm, but dangerously weak against mental harm.

Ashlotte

2010-01-21, 19:55

thumbs up for pedobear panties... that's about it. and it's frustrating that flameheart is setup to be the main heroine in this average harem, because honestly most of the other characters are way more interesting then her average/bad tsundere personality.

Aw thats mean Drill-chan is the good kind of Tsundere...She's got just enough honesty in her you can really have a fun time messing with her just to see the fireworks and the show provides her with so many fun expression I can never tire of it... :heh:

Either way a very cute nice little episode...Like everyone else said get rid of that damn maid and the show becomes immeasurably more enjoyable on the whole!

-Sho-

2010-01-21, 21:52

Just watch ep 3 . It was ok .
Loli's turn . Akiharu was nice . Tomomi isn't very a sadist , she enjoyed watching them .
Lol at Drill's vision for Osawa , they didn't censored it .

Miyuki-ism

2010-01-21, 23:05

The scene will two of the male characters posing to be drawn together was disturbingly hilarious.

Thany

2010-01-21, 23:08

Lol at Drill's vision for Osawa , they didn't censored it .The show is shown on AT-X, that is pretty much the reason why the anime wasn't censored.

DragoonKain3

2010-01-21, 23:42

I think the most mystifying part about Tomomi is that if you take out the evil grins, she acts exactly like an osananajimi. You know, sweet, helpful, and supportive to the point of it being sickeningly sweet? Because once everything is said and done, her actions were actually a benefit to ALL the parties involved, despite us seeing her sadistic face from time to time (which never really manifested in action).

As such, I would actually think that her 'sadistic' side is all but just an empty threat, but then we have Akiharu, who has a bigger backbone than your typical harem lead, absolutely terrified of her. To the point of dropping down to ground groveling if need be; this is coming from someone who gives no-nonsense to Selnia, so THAT really is saying something. XD

I think the best part of the show is how we're always second guessing of Tomomi's intentions, despite how it seems to mean well, much like Akiharu himself. Even with my bias, I'm still not not sold if Tomomi cares a lot about Akiharu, if at all lol.

And I do wonder, is that scar of Akiharu's caused by, I dunno... a boxcutter? ;)

and it's frustrating that flameheart is setup to be the main heroine in this average harem

Well, I wouldn't quite say THE main heroine, but just one of the two main heroines. Kinda like in Kanokon, where there were also two main heroines.

In fact, I would argue that Tomomi would actually be the main heroine (you know, being the main instigator for moving the plot and all), but that's just my bias speaking. :heh:

If we're to learn anything from Hayate, then Tomomi is scarier. Butlers are nigh immune to physical harm, but dangerously weak against mental harm.

Funny you mention Hayate, as Kawasumi also voices another sadistic lady there who was downright mean to her 'servant' during their childhood. With the same voice if I'm not mistaken, though to be fair, she didn't really have much lines lol.

Nosauz

2010-01-22, 01:19

dragonkain your a known osananajimi shipper, flameheart is the main heroine due to tomomi's quirk and how the op is established it's clear that flameheart is the main girl.

willyvereb

2010-01-22, 01:23

The OP is actually pretty balanced on them, though the thing makes me wonder the cover images of the novels. I only saw one volume with Tomomi on it's cover. While Selina...
Anyways it's kind of strange if the author creates a foreign character on an almost fully Japanese elite school and then use her only as a secondary.
Perhaps I can be wrong...

FlareKnight

2010-01-22, 01:34

who's more scary, tomomi in her play/dark mode, or that teacher who jammed a pen into the principal's laptop? :heh:Yeah I'd say that's an easy win for Tomomi. With the teacher you know it's a direct physical attack. But with Tomomi there's a bit more subtlety involved which makes it more dangerous. At least with the teacher you could run for the hills and anyone knowing the teacher wouldn't find your reaction weird. Most observers would find it odd someone running from an innocent looking Tomomi.

I think the most mystifying part about Tomomi is that if you take out the evil grins, she acts exactly like an osananajimi. You know, sweet, helpful, and supportive to the point of it being sickeningly sweet? Because once everything is said and done, her actions were actually a benefit to ALL the parties involved, despite us seeing her sadistic face from time to time (which never really manifested in action).

As such, I would actually think that her 'sadistic' side is all but just an empty threat, but then we have Akiharu, who has a bigger backbone than your typical harem lead, absolutely terrified of her. To the point of dropping down to ground groveling if need be; this is coming from someone who gives no-nonsense to Selnia, so THAT really is saying something. XD

I think the best part of the show is how we're always second guessing of Tomomi's intentions, despite how it seems to mean well, much like Akiharu himself. Even with my bias, I'm still not not sold if Tomomi cares a lot about Akiharu, if at all lol.Yeah I'm still trying to figure her out. Might be what makes her such an interesting character since you can jump back and forth about her feelings and motivations. Her actions in this one did help out at the same time entertaining her. She did have the personal motivation since she wanted the drawing to happen but was unable to motivated Osawa herself. Still the end result was good so you can't look that badly on it.

I'm still not sure how much she cares about Akiharu. But I think she likes the fact that he knows about her scheming side and doesn't really hate her. Might be scared of her at times, but that's reasonable :heh:. Do think she does care some, just has her weird way of showing it. Plus I guess she feels it's just fine to use him for entertainment long as the end result is okay. I'll trust Akiharu's reactions though. A lot of trauma must have happened there. But maybe it's why he's such a strong person now. Having gone through that he can handle most people. Plus maybe Tomomi was more extreme in the past and has mellowed a little.

And I do wonder, is that scar of Akiharu's caused by, I dunno... a boxcutter? ;)I have wondered about that scar :heh:. We may never know....

Well, I wouldn't quite say THE main heroine, but just one of the two main heroines. Kinda like in Kanokon, where there were also two main heroines.

In fact, I would argue that Tomomi would actually be the main heroine (you know, being the main instigator for moving the plot and all), but that's just my bias speaking. :heh:Well I might say Tomomi is the more main heroine. But Drill is more main love interest. Just think that between the two Akiharu would go with the one he has a handle on. Think Tomomi is just too scary for him.

On a side note I have to agree with Tomomi. Drill has quite the rich imagination.
The OP is actually pretty balanced on them, though the thing makes me wonder the cover images of the novels. I only saw one volume with Tomomi on it's cover. While Selina...
Anyways it's kind of strange if the author creates a foreign character on an almost fully Japanese elite school and then use her only as a secondary.
Perhaps I can be wrong...I'll have to agree it's pretty fair coverage in OP and covers. From the first page in the thread seems both have one cover for themselves and one they shared with one other character. Pretty fair division.

willyvereb

2010-01-22, 03:23

Well, then I saw it wrong. Really? It's good. While I am not a strong shipper of osanajimi pairings, I actually like them a lot. Mainly because at least they have that certain intimancy and (hidden) buildup which is needed for a good couple.

But I have to question whether Tomomi's "bullying" really can be made Akiharu tougher. Usually bullying and else has negative effects like making someone introverted or else. It should be a really special kind of "constructive bullying" to have such an effect.:p
Although as Tomomi's "evil side" is kind of special, I bet her bullying was the same way. Maybe Akiharu didn't liked but gained something by it in the end.
Or maybe it's also possible that Tomomi's "evil side" is like Akiharu's natural delinquent looks. Contradictory of the truth and makes her to be seen in a false light...Well, I don't think that's the case, but I thought I have to mention.

Mentar

2010-01-22, 04:47

I think the most mystifying part about Tomomi is that if you take out the evil grins, she acts exactly like an osananajimi. You know, sweet, helpful, and supportive to the point of it being sickeningly sweet? Because once everything is said and done, her actions were actually a benefit to ALL the parties involved, despite us seeing her sadistic face from time to time (which never really manifested in action).

I agree with you to 75%. Tomomi isn't really a sadist, she's generally a kind girl. How she used the exam to help Mimina indicated that she genuinely cares. However, the 25% remain: How she embarrassed Akiharu by spilling the "he wants to be a bride" line to all the others served no beneficial purpose other than her own amusement. But that's fine with me ;)

As such, I would actually think that her 'sadistic' side is all but just an empty threat, but then we have Akiharu, who has a bigger backbone than your typical harem lead, absolutely terrified of her. To the point of dropping down to ground groveling if need be; this is coming from someone who gives no-nonsense to Selnia, so THAT really is saying something. XD

It seems that in their childhood past she has coerced him into doing ALOT of embarrassing things. THIS is where his horror is coming from. I hope we'll see some glimpses of that in nowadays times, too.

I think the best part of the show is how we're always second guessing of Tomomi's intentions, despite how it seems to mean well, much like Akiharu himself. Even with my bias, I'm still not not sold if Tomomi cares a lot about Akiharu, if at all lol.

Not in romantic terms, no. At least not yet. However, she always intervened to his benefit when she could, and she's taking an extra interest in him. So she "cares" for sure.

And I do wonder, is that scar of Akiharu's caused by, I dunno... a boxcutter? ;)

I doubt that Tomomi is the physical-violent type ;)

Well, I wouldn't quite say THE main heroine, but just one of the two main heroines. Kinda like in Kanokon, where there were also two main heroines.

I'd agree with "one of two main heroines". Selnia has higher overall potential IMHO, since her interests can easily turn romantic. In my ideal case, Selnia and Akiharu could cat-and-dog fight her way closer together, and with them growing closer, his earlier dependency on Tomomi weakens. I would love to see how Tomomi (who currently holds all puppet strings in her hand) would deal with seeing him gradually slipping away. This would be a nice and relatively fresh asymmetrical setup to follow.

Sinestra

2010-01-22, 16:27

I'd agree with "one of two main heroines". Selnia has higher overall potential IMHO, since her interests can easily turn romantic. In my ideal case, Selnia and Akiharu could cat-and-dog fight her way closer together, and with them growing closer, his earlier dependency on Tomomi weakens. I would love to see how Tomomi (who currently holds all puppet strings in her hand) would deal with seeing him gradually slipping away. This would be a nice and relatively fresh asymmetrical setup to follow.

You read my mind Mentar. This situation would make this series gold for me. I thrive on reversals like this because it not only test the bonds between the main protagonist and his love but it also test the mental fortitude of the one that has been close to him and he has been depending on for most of the time. It will could cause a rivlary to start (which Selina and Tomomi already seem to have) and or make the friend think about her true feelings. Tomomi obviously missed Aki and as its been shown she actually does care for the unlucky bastard but how would she take romantic situation developing between Aki and Selina. This could put some nice drama into the mix of an otherwise comedy driven series. Plus i sheer amount of embrassing moments Selina would go through which would cause massive amounts of blushing and dere moments would be a Win.

So Im hoping we get something similar to what Mentar has stated. It would elevate the series a bit for me if Selina as romantic rival plays out.

Westlo

2010-01-22, 22:05

I'm surprised I'm enjoying this show quite a bit.

dragonkain your a known osananajimi shipper, flameheart is the main heroine due to tomomi's quirk and how the op is established it's clear that flameheart is the main girl.

Mate.. this is the most balanced OP (and ED) I've seen for a triangle series in a long time, maybe ever. And you can't call me an osananajimi shipper, Tomomi's probably the first osananajimi I'm shipping for since Hiromi in True Tears which aired 2 years ago. Not to mention why don't you go look at the novel covers in the first post of this thread. Generally it's the main heroine you put on Vol 1.. the girls are both co-main heroines so don't try and put Flameheart into the role by herself, especially when it's Tomomi on the cover of volume 1 and the OP and ED are near perfect 50/50 split between them. They either have matching scenes or are in the scenes together.

Nosauz

2010-01-23, 01:00

bro, chill out, I said... dragonkain... not westlo... dragonkain, the guy who posted a chart of how many times osananajimi had won in the past two decades. Well if you compare it to say to, Baka to Test, or Nyankoi, than yes it's quite balanced, but in the end the op does slightly favor drillhead.

Westlo

2010-01-23, 01:07

I know you were talking to dragonkain..., you seem to dismiss his opinion because he is a well known osananajima shipper. I think the same as dragonkain on this.. hence.. "you can't call me an osananajima shipper" to dismiss my opinion. Also you don't have to compare the OP to anything to realize it's balanced, the two girls are either on screen at the same time or have somewhat similar scenes solo. (Akiharu runs past Girl A, she looks back, Akiharu than runs past girl B, now she looks back, zomg favoritism!) How does the OP slightly favor drillhead? What nonsensical reason can you come up with?

Also I'll like to know what light novel series puts another girl that isn't the heroine on the first volume cover.

Nosauz

2010-01-23, 01:16

the only real imbalance would probably the last bit where the two are onscreen interacting where drillhead is acting all flustered, in the typical, it's not what you think manner, whereas tomomi is all chuckling at the drama she's caused, although if it was an initial watch i'd probably say yea it was even.

DragoonKain3

2010-01-23, 04:48

To be quite honest, I could care less about who people perceive who the main heroine is. All I really care about, as a shipper, is whether or not my coupling (in my case, the osananajimis) gets together. :heh:

So yeah, my comment before was just an attempt at a humorous self-jab, where I usually write something my logical mind usually perceives something as truth (in this case both Tomomi and Selnia being co-heroines since they have comparable exposure), and my shipper side would overemphasize a certain aspect of that truth (in this case Tomomi being the one driving the plot forward) in order to put forth an arguement that would serve to support my ship. Of course even I know that the latter is built on questionable ground (thus me admitting that was just my bias speaking), and only the former can be reasonably argued, and thus a self-jab because my shipper side has nothing to stand on despite me desperately wanting it to lol.

So yeah, Nosauz, if you want to see me act with full 'shipper glasses' on, you wouldn't even have me doubting Tomomi cares at all about Aki. If I had them on, you would see me not only arguing that Tomomi is the 'real heroine' of the series, but also argue with absolute certainty that Tomomi is THE person Aki will end up with.

But as of right now, I personally have doubts about Tomomi even being an actual LI of Aki's. I really don't know what sort of personal bias you see in my posts when people here are more optimisitic than myself about my own ship (aka. TomomiXAki). :heh:

alu546

2010-01-23, 07:03

I dunno about the shipper business, but im usually for the more interesting girl, Selina = Nagi from Hayate no Gotoku to me. Funny how that features butlers too, but eh. More Tomomi = good episode. despite her getting in his head a few times, she wasnt cruel to him at all. Perhaps she hoped ordering him around the girl mightve been a bit more interesting, but she wasnt displeased with it. I wonder what Tomomi wrote in the exam though.

Seiryuu

2010-01-23, 07:52

I knew I'd follow this show the moment I saw Tomomi's smile at the end of ep1. That's a look that will stay with you. And anyone who sees such a smile can only think of one thing: RUN!
Tomomi beats the normal sadistic bullies; she's a psycho-sadist. I don't know if that's a real term but it fits perfectly. She doesn't care about drawing blood or causing physical pain in her victims. This girl gets off by torturing them on a social and pshychological level, finding their greatest weaknesses and taking at them with a sledgehammer, all the while maintaining the face of a happy, innocent, well-mannered young lady. She can behave like an angel toward someone while her real thoughts would make the devil shiver. With girls like this, it's when they're being sweet that they're most dangerous.
This is why many smart men are truly afraid of making a girl angry. When men fight, they tend to do it with fists and leave bruises that heal after a while. When women fight, they tend to use words and can cause far more damage. Even in real life, women can appear to be having a pleasant, friendly conversation, talking about seemingly harmless matters, and yet a little observation shows that the two are wholly intent on crushing one another. We guys typically just aren't capable of the same level of subtlety or determination to make each victory absolute.
This man's life is going to be interesting, albeit very short. And when she threatened "penalty" after basically ripping off his genitals through his throat, I can't help but wonder what she might have to trump this.
Only unfortunate thing is that the guy's personality is very cliche. A person could make a school just to teach guys to stop a fall without shoving their hands into a woman's bosom, or at least how to avoid squeezing once they realize the situation.

satomianzaki

2010-01-23, 10:51

eh, isn't tomomi the primary heroine? even the official website has her face on every page...lol, okay not that its a definite proof...

anyways, selnia could be the first to fall for aki...as for tomomi, as of now, she's doing things for her own entertainment...what a dangerous young lady...but a very interesting one...

:)

DragoonKain3

2010-01-23, 11:11

Actually, Selnia has been shown signs to like Aki every since episode 1. Tomomi on the other hand, as you said, is just using Aki pretty much as a plaything, even going so far as to push him to other girls just for the sake of entertainment.

So yeah, I worry about my ship. :heh:

willyvereb

2010-01-23, 11:34

Tomomi is on my top list of anime characters with whom I really don't want be enemies.

Just barely under Senjogahara Hitagi in my rankings.:)

Preacher

2010-01-23, 11:46

Tomomi is on my top list of anime characters with whom I really don't want be enemies.

Just barely under Senjogahara Hitagi in my rankings.:)

Kanzaki Urumi could take on both of them any time! :innocent:

willyvereb

2010-01-23, 12:28

I know. Amongst female characters there's hardly anyone "better".

Westlo

2010-01-23, 18:39

eh, isn't tomomi the primary heroine? even the official website has her face on every page...lol, okay not that its a definite proof.

Characters are listed Aki > Tomomi > Flameheart on the character page and Tomomi's card picture is on the border of every page. Not to mention she's on Volume 1 of the Light Novel. I'm not arguing that Tomomi is the main heroine, for one being the main heroine doesn't guarantee romantic success in the first place, I'm just saying it's absurd to say she isn't and Flameheart is. They are both co-heroines, but we'll see who drives the story forward.

Guido

2010-01-23, 21:02

The third episode was very beautiful, because it properly fleshed out Miminas' life tribulations through dialogue, and Akiharu succeeded delivering not only a good impression on her but being able to express himself by tending her and truly realizing her problems.

In contrast to the previous episode, in this one Akiharu did not found himself thrown at a mess where likely he would have ended up in a fanservice situation at comical fashion.

He was bestowed the chance to become a proper hero to a girl that desperately wanted for everyone to hear her that she wished to draw for the things she liked and not for someone's sake.

Though Mimina stubbornly says over and over that she's 19-years-old, for me it's hard to buy given that her body's physiology is that of 6-7 year-old.

Either she's one of the following:
1. A super-genius with a high I.Q. that skipped through many school grades. (An unfeasibility and improbability, given that the Japanese School System does not allow to skip grades)

2. Borned with a genetic condition or a disease that prevented her body from maturing physically.

3. Or (which in stories of this type of genre may become an absurd possibility) Afflicted by a magical spell.

4. Or, to put it simply, many Japanese male-otaku viewers will always love the moe and cute loli-types.

GDB

2010-01-23, 21:39

2. Borned with a genetic condition or a disease that prevented her body from maturing physically.

Probably this, since she mentioned being sick and in a hospital.

PNGO

2010-01-23, 21:51

Wow this was MUCH better than I thought it would be. I'll keep watching :P

Nukerjsr

2010-01-24, 04:05

SwiftStrike

2010-01-24, 18:41

I like this show now. Sorta like....Seitokai no Ichizon--comedy but with "seriousness" after the beginning.
goes to show that first ep impressions aren't always correct either lol.

Silaqui

2010-01-24, 19:08

After the first episode I never thought this show would become an enjoyable one, but I was wrong!

Bonta Kun

2010-01-24, 20:14

Watched Episode 3, thinking it would be lame, but I was really surprised.

I'll be damned but Akiharu is a really charming male lead. He's just so likable and cool compared to so many others I've been seeing lately that it makes me happy to watch this show. Just the dynamic between him, Selnia, and Tomomi makes the show really worth it. And I had doubt that I wouldn't enjoy this episode (Since the dojikko was so annoying) because it was focused on a mis-aged loli, but it was really good.

Character depth? Characters speaking out? Open perverts? A delightful tsundere? This could be my favorite fanservice anime I've seen in a while.

This is what I think about the show so far as well, Akiharu is actually quite composed compared to well like 99% of the male leads out there, especially in the harem genre.

It's like you know what to expect but its surprisingly good to watch cause it's done rather well

I had only took interest in this series cause of the winter expectation thread, the little summary alone was enough to gain my interest and am glad that I decided to check it out.

question who is VA for the principal...eh also what is the her name too?

uis

2010-01-25, 10:09

Actually ep3 is really nice if you compare ep1 and ep2. I got to said that as light novel reader i quite dissapointed with XEBEC with ep1 but ep3 really redeem that. Love how ep3 really excuted well and quite entertaining. Anyway XEBEC made a really good OP and i hope XEBEC can deliver another good episode in next episode.

blitz1/2

2010-01-25, 10:54

This is what I think about the show so far as well, Akiharu is actually quite composed compared to well like 99% of the male leads out there, especially in the harem genre.

It's like you know what to expect but its surprisingly good to watch cause it's done rather well

I had only took interest in this series cause of the winter expectation thread, the little summary alone was enough to gain my interest and am glad that I decided to check it out.

question who is VA for the principal...eh also what is the her name too?

Principal's Va is Mariya Ise.
Main roles include: the protagonist from Touka Gettan (too lazy to check name)
Nemuru from Ookami Kakushi
Aruka from Needless

blitz1/2

2010-01-26, 16:23

Lol ep 4 is out.

Akiharu: So I was gonig back to the classroom to change my clothing...
Selnia: WHAT THE HECK WERE YOU DOING?!

Aki: Drill, just shut up!!!

:heh:

Sinestra

2010-01-26, 16:33

Its starting to look like Ladies vs Butlers might be a sleeper series. From all the new replies and expectations. That is of course depending on how they proceed with series. So far im satisfied with what we have given and happy with all the little hints of coming events and thats to a little song bird *cough* Mentar *cough*:D i have been informed about some coming events that is sure to get the discussion flowing like a waterfall. Its always nice when your hopes for a series direction actually starts to head that way.

Nosauz

2010-01-26, 20:29

This is no seitokai no ichizon, this just on the line of so bad it's funny and less anything else. The whole, see you in your panties now we have to get married was so cliche, but overall even though the show is somewhat boring and extremely cheesy it manages to be somehow entertaining. Maybe it's the nopple effect but still not really all that, maybe it's so bad it's ok, but yea you get the point.

Altima of the Gates

2010-01-27, 00:33

Not bad ep. I have found a rather likable MC ( not surly,not overly cynical, a nice guy who sticks to his guns). He's really shining. Though this ep I wish they had shown us the fruits of Osawa's artistic prowess.

serenade_beta

2010-01-27, 01:39

A good episode, though the new characters were lacking. Some over-protective bodyguard and another girl who fell in love with the main character for some unexplained reason. There was some nice eros though. But still, meh...
Also, I wish Tomomi would do something that stands out more... As of now, her character is... getting... repetitive and boring...

Bonta Kun

2010-01-27, 03:28

Kaoru Chujo

2010-01-27, 23:02

This is no seitokai no ichizon, this just on the line of so bad it's funny and less anything else....I agree that it's no SeiZon, but I don't think it's bad at all. It's not breaking new ground, but I laugh out loud every week, and exactly where they want me to. The idea here is to work variations on things we've seen before, not to create new memes. For me, there hasn't been a character yet that didn't work. Ep4 did it once again. Some of the bodyguard's antics, and the clumsy maid's schtick, were irresistibly funny, for me. Nice comic timing. And they just take things that little bit further. Tomatsu Haruka did a great job as the bodyguard, I thought.And besides Tomatsu, Nakahara Mai and Kawasumi Ayako are excellent as Flameheart and Saikyou, respectively. Especially Kawasumi.

Johnny

2010-01-28, 04:05

Pretty funny episode...The screeching running attack by the bodyguard had me rolling. Also her voice had me itching to go watch Nyan Koi again...:heh: Not sure what to make of Daichi though, or maybe I'm just slow...

Mentar

2010-01-28, 05:21

Why I like this show? Because I can watch an entire ep in one piece without getting irritated. It's by no means awesome or incredibly original, but it just WORKS. The main triangle is adorable, and the "character of the week" eps were okay too. The ecchi level is stimulating without going overboard (with the exception of the tit-monster dojikko who however got an "inverse joke" this time since nobody cared about her antics). No grimacing and wincing on my end, and that's rare for this kind of show.

Now, I've got to say that they made Ay REALLY alluring. Respects to Aki to successfully resist till the end (where she looked VERY close to success though ^_^)

Nukerjsr

2010-01-28, 08:43

Hahaha the inner ecchi in me is just absolutely loving this show:D

As usual the same question is pops up here "why in the hell would you resist?!!!"

Grow a pair already!

and yea as I thought from the start Tomomi is just doing the same o same o, guess we'll have to wait for later to get a little more from her.

Well this is rare for a male lead, but I think I'm willing to cut Akiharu some slack during that scene because he WAS technically being held against his will and not some moralistic-bullcrap. Constantly threatened by the assassin, not to mention that the taskmaster-sempai (Whose name I keep forgeting) would probably go insane. She already scared the crap out of them just for idle-chit-chat during a service.

But I had thoughts during this episode.

-This episode only had two annoyances for me. Ayse...really didn't love Akiharu for any reason and that Tomomi is pulling her whole shtick.
-I love how they treat the humor like a non-sequiter during the episode. Like when Sanae tripped the first time and when Tomomi watched Akiharu get caught in a net. XD
-Aww, I love Eroge-President.
-Damn, are they pumping up the fanservice. I kind of like how some of that's done through Selnia's perverted fantasies.
-Speaking of Selnia, I think they made the tsundere reactions from her much subtler in this episode. She would still do that jump back to tsun, but she didn't have many loud, wild moments or act really deredere.
-A measurements episode next? Haven't seen that done before

-Did anyone ELSE laugh out loud from the storage closet scene? Totally not expecting that. :heh:

Forever

2010-01-28, 09:50

Shiroth

2010-01-28, 12:54

If only that scene in the infirmary lasted a few more minutes...

& i think it's pretty obvious now that my speculation regarding Daichi being female is true. :p

omegasaries

2010-01-28, 17:27

cyberdemon

2010-01-28, 17:41

Just finished watching the 4 currently episodes and gotta say I'm liking this more than i thought i would. It gives me a good laugh.

I think the most mystifying part about Tomomi is that if you take out the evil grins, she acts exactly like an osananajimi. You know, sweet, helpful, and supportive to the point of it being sickeningly sweet? Because once everything is said and done, her actions were actually a benefit to ALL the parties involved, despite us seeing her sadistic face from time to time (which never really manifested in action).

As such, I would actually think that her 'sadistic' side is all but just an empty threat, but then we have Akiharu, who has a bigger backbone than your typical harem lead, absolutely terrified of her. To the point of dropping down to ground groveling if need be; this is coming from someone who gives no-nonsense to Selnia, so THAT really is saying something. XD

personally i think she means well in helping him BUT enjoys seeing him struggle and squirm in the process a little too much. I'm liking her character a lot.

Silaqui

2010-01-28, 17:44

(1) If I really do her, I will really be forced to marry her.

(2) I would most likely be forced to convert to muslim as well.

(3) Being a muslim, I will have to be circumcised. OUCH! Just for the third reason, I will resist it with everything I got.

If a naked teenage arabian beauty sits on top of you and wants you to do her, you could still think about these things? Impressive! :D

kk2extreme

2010-01-28, 20:34

anyone forgetting the yuri action from the gym equipment closet :naughty:

this is becoming more and more like kanokon, females forcing their will on the main guy in bed :D

Frenchie

2010-01-28, 21:35

If a naked teenage arabian beauty sits on top of you and wants you to do her, you could still think about these things? Impressive! :D

Yeah, I have to agree. But the fact that he's from Singapore might explain a few things. Maybe you get a lot of tourist girls from Indonesia over there. And they try to sleep with you to force-marry you!

huh..what was I saying. Oh yesh.

Boobies! Boobies everywhere!!! :eyespin:

SwiftStrike

2010-01-28, 21:37

certainly....more... than I expected.

-Sho-

2010-01-28, 23:07

-Did anyone ELSE laugh out loud from the storage closet scene? Totally not expecting that. :heh:

This part was so hot :heh: and lol at the President :heh:

For Aki , i think he's good as a man lead , at least better than the other lead for the same anime's type .

Lol , Selnia's vision is the ecchiest .
Aki tied :heh: Khadim was close XD

Well this episode just was best for the ecchi fanservice with some humor .

And Daichi is the trap there :p

Next ep : Selnia and Tomomi fanservice huh

hinakatbklyn

2010-01-28, 23:15

anyone forgetting the yuri action from the gym equipment closet :naughty:

this is becoming more and more like kanokon, females forcing their will on the main guy in bed :D

Looks like this series has already gone beyond the boundaries wtihout DVD additions. (or am I mistaken and they're going to show a whole lot more when that time comes?)

FlareKnight

2010-01-28, 23:37

If a naked teenage arabian beauty sits on top of you and wants you to do her, you could still think about these things? Impressive! :DYeah I'd have to agree with you there :heh:. At that point I'd pretty much be "oh what the hell". As valid as some of the concerns may be at that point I'd probably forget them.

Well if he gave it it'd make things boring since he wouldn't have any tension with the main duo. Still amazing that he could resist that much considering.

Gotta love the principle finding the two girls and thinking that wasn't a bad result :D. I'll give Drill some credit. When it comes to lewd things she knows her stuff :heh:. That active imagination of hers pretty much solved the puzzle in a hurry.

Was nice to see at the end that Tomomi actually had been looking into the family rules for a loophole. Instead of knowing from the start she was worried and looked for a way out of it. Of course fine by her if Akiharu suspects she knew. In the end she did well by finding the truth and giving Drill an excuse for intervening by using the school's reputation. Considering their principal what kind of repuation does that place still have anyways :heh:?

billborden

2010-01-29, 00:30

If only that scene in the infirmary lasted a few more minutes...

& i think it's pretty obvious now that my speculation regarding Daichi being female is true. :p

And I'm certain that this will soon be central to a, if not the, plot. :D

Hahaha the inner ecchi in me is just absolutely loving this show:D

As usual the same question is pops up here "why in the hell would you resist?!!!"

Grow a pair already!

I actually like the guy; he does a very good job of straddling the "I can't touch a woman or I'll faint (Kouta)" and the "anything for boobies (Tomo-chan)" type. Because of that, he also seems to be the only even half-realistic character in the show. Conveniently, slap-stick does not require believable characters; so I'm still enjoying myself here. :p

Master_Yoma

2010-01-29, 01:07

What is going on at that school when the principal see 2 girls half naked making out in the gym store room and dose nothing at all but seems excited at seeing it

alu546

2010-01-29, 01:48

Well, Tomomi rocked (again), drill girl managed to transcend her usual level of annoyance, and the arabian lady oisnt so bad, just seemed like she wanted to escape her familiess rules for a bit.

Daichi couldve not covered himself and Aki wouldnt have been able to tell :-D
More principal!

Finally, drill, I am a guy and I see what can be attractive in that and all, but....just...just wear a bra for once. Please?

FlareKnight

2010-01-29, 01:58

Finally, drill, I am a guy and I see what can be attractive in that and all, but....just...just wear a bra for once. Please?Must have missed the change room scene ;). It was pretty well confirmed she is wearing support it's just not doing anything :heh:.What is going on at that school when the principal see 2 girls half naked making out in the gym store room and dose nothing at all but seems excited at seeing itIt's pretty amazing she got that job since she seems more interested in her h-games than doing her job. I kind of feel for that teacher having to work with someone that lax.

ironchapman

2010-01-29, 02:40

And I'm certain that this will soon be central to a, if not the, plot. :D

I checked ANN for some info on the show, and I'm inclined to agree with you about Daichi. Episode 6 (set to air on Feb 9th) is called "Secret vs Boy?". There's only one person on this show who could legitimately be referred to as a "Boy?', and furthermore, it's clear that Daichi's real gender is a secret.

But all of this is merely my speculation, and it's entirely possible that I could be wrong.

Akiharu is one of the few male harem leads I have liked in a long time. He's got a backbone, and he balances the pervert and purity quite nicely. He's a nice guy, but he's not a doormat.

I'm pleased with the series so far, but I could have done without the topless Osawa bits in episode 3.

Pellissier

2010-01-29, 03:36

This series is surprisingly much funnier than I expected, the characters, even if clichè, are funny to watch. The main lead is ok, he's a bit passive but not spineless, while among the girls I guess Tomomi should be the star but Nakahara Mai's antics just leads my preference towards Drill-chan, besides I do have a weak spot for blonde girls with blue eyes, in RL particularly, but I guess it can apply to anime too. :)

In episode 4 there's been a spectacular performance by Tomatsu Haruka as Hedyeh, Khadim's servant. I couldn't count the number of times she switched her voice, even in the same scene, even in the same sentence. So far she's proven to have an almost unlimited range, but staying on this episode, her continuous switching reminded me a lot of her double role in Nyan Koi! where she voiced the twins.

The fanservice ratio is very high, if there were still doubts. We should be thankful that this airs on AT-X otherwise there would be a lot of added steam, sun rays, or still frames. Often the shots are pure eye candies, but for example the scene in the infirmary did need the viewer to see what was happening. In facts I think that was the most hilarious portion of the episode, especially when we found out that the servant was reading the sentences from a book for her shy mistress :heh: (for a moment when Khadim started confessing I thought: wait, is Tomacchan dubbing her too? lol, they got me there.)

About Daichi, my first reaction when I saw him in the show (with no absolutely prior knowledge) was: "now, just tell me what is a girl dressed like a butler doing in the boys room?" As far as I am concerned, I never really doubted of his gender, but certainly it will be interesting to see the reasons as to why he needs to hide his identity.

The OP and the ED are both good and catchy, personally I tend to prefer the latter because of the sweeter, softer feeling it gives out (and yes, because it's a Nakahara Mai solo).

On a final note, just to keep this show's pace..

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7876/117123.th.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/117123.jpg/)

Shiroth

2010-01-29, 04:31

Finally, drill, I am a guy and I see what can be attractive in that and all, but....just...just wear a bra for once. Please?
The thing is, we do see that she wears a bra when they were changing back into their uniforms in the changing rooms. :p

Wrath88

2010-01-29, 04:34

Haha, I'm really enjoying this show. Still, Aki's density in realizing the traps seem to indicate future relationship comedy. I know I'd be cautious if I happen to be walking close to the tent where the girl is staying.

DragoonKain3

2010-01-29, 05:21

I agree with Pellisier. Tomatsu is indeed awesome in this episode, while Nakahara still proves to be my #1 seiyuu in terms of talent. Not my favourite (that either belongs to Itou or Hanazawa), but for the longest time I've thought her to be the best overall seiyuu, and still is.

That said, outside of sadistic side, it's a bit nostalgic to hear Kawasumi in this series. Particularly because her way of speaking here harkens me back to the days when I first started watching fansubs, way back in early 2000 with her role as Akari in To Heart. So yeah, lots of sentimental value for me here, since To Heart is the first anime I watched outside of whatever was broadcasted in my region. Though to be fair, she's more formal, so in essence its kinda more like her starring role back in Ai Yori Aoshi.

As for this episode, we got Tomomi researching the rules of that household, presumably in order to save her plaything from getting away from her first and foremost, and to amuse herself while she's at it. Two birds with one stone; I mean, she masterfully manipulated Selnia there by giving the notion that stopping the 'marriage' has more to do with saving the reputation of the school lol. :heh:

Forever

2010-01-29, 09:27

If a naked teenage arabian beauty sits on top of you and wants you to do her, you could still think about these things? Impressive! :D

Ah it is because I have considered to marry a muslim before, considering that the muslim girls these days tend to be hotter and have a more simple outlook to life.

Then, I considered the options and decided I couldnt do it though.....:heh:

brain

2010-01-29, 11:53

If only that scene in the infirmary lasted a few more minutes...

& i think it's pretty obvious now that my speculation regarding Daichi being female is true. :p

Yes, between Daichi here and Hideyoshi in Baka x Test, it's the season of the reverse trap!

Kaoru Chujo

2010-01-29, 16:14

I agree with Pellisier. Tomatsu is indeed awesome in this episode, while Nakahara still proves to be my #1 seiyuu in terms of talent. Not my favourite (that either belongs to Itou or Hanazawa), but for the longest time I've thought her to be the best overall seiyuu, and still is....Nakahara Mai is really good doing this voice. She's pretty good in Katanagatari, too, although I have some problem with how the voices are being done there. And I thought she was excellent in the different role of Felli Loss in Regios. I first loved her voice as Miina in Onegai Twins: that's the kind of voice you either love or hate.

I was surprised at how much I liked her singing voice in her version of the OP of Regios. I expected to think Takagaki Ayahi's version was much, much better, but Mai's had something, too. And she does well in the ED here, too -- as they all do in the OP. I suspect there is a bit of technical correction going on, here as in many OP/EDs these days, but she's still strikingly good.

I have a whole other set of favorite and top seiyuus and seiyuu/singers, but she's good, for sure.

EDIT: The clumsy maid is one of the highlights of the show, for me. Classic stuff. Like vaudeville.

Ashlotte

2010-01-29, 18:05

Wow that was some...ahem...very well animated perversion... :heh:

Man must have the strongest will ever to resist that temptation...Sanely speaking you'd make the same decision being tied down with an armed woman nearby that may or may not kill you, but like Silaqui said most guys probably wouldn't be thinking much past the beauty currently straddling you... :heh:

Only other real surprise of the episode was clumsy maid actually being used in a good way for comedy and not making me cringe every 2 seconds I saw her.

Silaqui

2010-01-29, 18:56

Only other real surprise of the episode was clumsy maid actually being used in a good way for comedy and not making me cringe every 2 seconds I saw her.

That was a surprise for me, too.
In the beginning I thought "Oh no, there she comes." and then "What?! This is surprisingly funny!". :)

Nukerjsr

2010-01-29, 20:55

Yes, between Daichi here and Hideyoshi in Baka x Test, it's the season of the reverse trap!

Well for the record, in the first episode you could easily assume Daichi's a trap just because he has the doe-eyes like ALL the female characters. However, the shota butler introduced in the second episode kind of debunked that.

Sinestra

2010-01-29, 22:54

Well well episode too turned out to be a pretty decent episode. What i like was LvB is that its entertaining and knows exactly what kind of series it is without going too over the top. Even the clumsy maid had me laughing my butt off not like her previous scenes.

I will say this right now with that body that complexion those eyes i would convert to whatever religion they wanted me to for a piece of Aisha :heh: Even her voice even though we didnt hear till the end had me drooling. Its very interesting how they bought a character in with obvious Islamic principals. Man they really erotic crazy with this episode i mean damn. But what i really liked about the infirmary scene was there use of shadow of light on Aisha's body. It made the scene more erotic the way they did it by using light and shadow to outline portions of Aishas body they made her sexier.

What really shocked me was Aisha was actually in love with Hino. Now one can only guess at the damn reason. But im going to go out on a limb and say the writers just expected us to think Love at first sight. Its something that we all know and possibly identify with. Whatever the reason I DONT CARE that bastard is lucky. However, I dont think we will see that much of her perhaps some cameos here and there.

hedyeh was pretty damn fine herself and i know one should be worried about their health because she apparently a first class assassin who can pull a 6 foot sword out of know where and look extremely cute while saying "dont ask me such an embarrassing question" lol How the hell can she look so cute while threatening to decapitate someone while calling them the lowest of low (some guys like that though lol). btw her assets were quite nice as well which they managed to show quite nicely through her all black outfit.

Saikyo proved once again that she is the undisputed queen of subversion. bless her drill heart but Flameheart is so easy to to read therefore very easy for Saikyo to manipulate her. However, I was starting to get bored with her already but thanks to some hints from others i know her character changes a bit in the future. It seems Flameheart is starting to be vaguely aware of her own feelings.

I cant believe Flameheart actually knocked someone out with drill bit hair LMAO

best line in the episode: "Or are the drills by your ears spinning so loud you cant hear what other people are saying to you" LMAO

oh and " You shut the hell up drill" was pretty damn funny too.

chinaboat

2010-01-30, 03:47

im absolutely loving this show, the entire humanity, comedy, sarcasm, music, characters.... i mean... its a must see for everyone, its not too heavy but its not too light.
i hope it keeps up the good quality :P ..

While I enjoyed the first season of Hayate slightly more, this series is wonderfully silly.

Guido

2010-01-30, 19:30

So, the fourth episode turned unexpectedly hilarious and wasn't anything that I first imagined would be.

Hmmmh....

Aisha not only possess a beautiful body and beautiful looks, but also a polite and innocent demeanor.

I got to say that I truly believe that she fell in love with Akiharu not only at first sight but on her own.

I feel that for this show the writers are sprinkling a healthy dose of common sense on Akiharu, whether be interactions or slapstick antics, with the other protagonic heroines.

What I mean with that statement is that he struggles and strives to be heard his opinions and as well listens carefully to what the girl he's interacting with wishes.

I'm aware that the content in this show is heading towards the same direction as Kanokon did (a show which I never followed but watched episodic screenshots of it at Omni's blog).

The almost erotic scene at the infirmary when Akiharu was fully binded from both his hands and feet, and then Aisha in full "Eve" mode closing in on him and sensually touching him, then reaching for his.... (Beep!! censored) Here, Drill-head comes and dissipates the eroromance atmosphere.:heh:

But getting serious my heart thumped erratically upon that scene. I do believe now that Kanokon back on its days pushed the limits off, and LadyXBat will push them farther.

BTW, whose the seiyuu for Edyeh, but she sounded familiar.

The episode became a full win to me thanks for Edyeh's conspiracy schemes and calling off Akiharu a thousand-and-one names of disgrace.

Heck!! That's what I call a servant faithfully devoted to her master.:heh:

Joke of the episode.

In that Academy, surely there are lots of place where students can do lewd things:
1. The infirmary is a dead giveaway choice.
2. How about the storage room at the gym.

My God, that means this show is going to have it all, including yuri and yaoi?:eyespin::uhoh: